How Much Will Babineaux’s Suspension Hurt?

What Will the Judgment Be? 

How Many Games? (ajc.com)

One of the biggest question marks and points of concern for the upcoming 2010 Atlanta Falcons season is the looming suspension of one of the Birds best players in defensive tackle Jonathan Babineaux. A lapse in judgment will likely cost the Falcon to miss any number of games. During the 2009 season, Babineaux was arrested for drug possession and originally charged with intent to sell. The details of the incident showed a lack of judgment at best and a disgraceful episode of immaturity and failure of leadership at worst. This isn’t the first time that #95 has been involved with the law either. In 2007, Babineaux was involved in an incident with his girlfriend in an animal cruelty case. He was cleared of all charges and was found innocent of any wrongdoings when the incident was thrown out. Babineaux should get the benefit of this being his first and only real incident, but the fact that he was arrested before will stay in the minds of fans, even though he was proven to do nothing wrong. No one knows what Roger Goodell has in store for Babineaux and the Falcons, but he certainly has no problem instituting discipline on players either found guilty in actual court or even just the court of public opinion. Jonathan Babineaux had his best year as a Falcon and is obviously in the long-term plans (or firmly was at least) since Thomas Dimitroff re-upped Babs during the 2008 season, not taking any chance of him hitting the open market. For a team and franchise that has prided itself on developing a high character team, this certainly casts some doubt on the upcoming season and how Babineaux’s likely suspension will affect the 2010 campaign, both technically and emotionally. Let the debate begin…………

The Charge

Gwinnett police originally stated both men would be charged with intent to distribute, but this afternoon released a statement clarifying the charges. Babineaux and Robinson were charged with possessing more than an ounce of marijuana, but not with intent to distribute. The charges are still felonies. In addition to the possession charges, Babineaux is charged with having no tag light and driving without a license and with an expired tag. He also was charged with tinting his car windows too much.

Recent Cases

As a benchmark to guess how big or small Babineaux’s suspension might be, here’s a look at a few recent judgments handed down by Commissioner Goodell. Obviously these cases aren’t the exact same as Babineaux’s, but they might provide somewhat of a guidepost to where Babs suspension might be.

Adam “Pacman” Jones – Entire 2007 season – 10 Incidents & Multiple Arrests

Chris Henry – First 8 games of 2007 season – 4 Arrests in 14 Months

Tank Johnson – First 8 games of 2007 season – DUI and Weapons Possession; 3rd Arrest in NFL

Adam “Pacman” Jones – Indefinite 2008 – Incident

Donte Stallworth – Entire 2009 season – Vehicular Manslaughter

Ben Roethlisberger – First 6 games of 2010 season – 2 Alleged Sexual Assault Cases

Judging the above suspensions doled out by Roger Goodell, it seems as though Jonathan Babineaux likely won’t receive any more than 4 games maximum and possibly less. It also depends how far Gwinnett County’s District Attorney wants to prosecute and what kind of punishment he may seek. Most of the above cases involved players that had multiple incidents and arrests, and since the previous animal cruelty case was thrown out where he was found innocent, this arrest has to be treated as a first time offense. As the Falcons remember from last year though, 4 games can make or break a season (4-1 became 5-5 really quick).

A Record Year in 2009

Even though John Abraham may get all the attention as the best defensive linemen for the Falcons, Jonathan Babineaux made a Pro Bowl worthy case in 2009 after having a magnificent year both in terms of personal stats and overall defensive line play. Babineaux recorded more sacks than any other Falcons defensive lineman in 2009 from the DT position, which is usually withheld for defensive ends alone. In fact, according to ProFootballFocus.com (the premiere statistics website), Babineaux was the best defensive tackle in the entire NFL when all areas of the game were included in a comprehensive format.

Overall Ranking All NFL Defensive Tackles – 1st (19.2 Rating)

Pass Rushing – 5th (9.4 Rating)

Pass Coverage – 1st (5.0 Rating)

Run Defense – 22nd (5.8 Rating)

Sacks – 1st (6.5 sacks)

QB Hits – T-12th (5)

QB Pressures – 2nd (25)

Batted Passes – T-13th (2)

Tackles – 4th (39)

Stops [Resulted in Offensive Failure] – 1st (43)

The stats speak for themselves and Babineaux was completely robbed of a Pro Bowl invitation. Even though his run defense was a little lower, he was by far the best defensive lineman for the Falcons in 2009. Could you imagine what it would’ve been like without Babineaux?

Who Can Fill In?

The Falcons top brass obviously took into account the tenuous nature of their defensive tackle position in this years draft. The combination of Babineaux’s looming suspension and Peria Jerry’s injury history combined to make DT a much higher priority than some believed. Defensive tackle was surely a possibility with their 1st overall pick where they worked out both Brian Price and Jared Odrick. They went with OLB Sean Weatherspoon first, and immediately followed him with defensive tackle Corey Peters out of Kentucky. Many fans felt that it was a reach, but considering the run on DTs at that point and Peters extreme production at Kentucky, it looks to be a good pick. The Falcons made defensive tackle one of the deepest positions on the field. Excluding Babineaux and Jerry, the Falcons have a plethora of talent to compete for either 2 or 3 spots. Vance Walker and Thomas Johnson both played well as starters last year, and Trey Lewis appears to be back with a vengeance ready to prove he’s gained his rookie form back. The fierce competition should produce someone ready to step in and up.

Lapse of Judgment or Bad Trend?

The Falcons have made a concerted effort to sign, draft, and bring in high character, hard working players in a move to make the entire team full of good player and even better men. Although its hard for fans to rid themselves of Babs initial arrest (animal cruelty charge), this has to be treated as his first offense and obviously he has a chance to make it right with his teammates, coaches, ownership, and fans. Before the incident, Babineaux was quickly replacing John Abraham as the new leader of the defensive line. He has appeared contrite, apologetic, and honest with everyone involved and looks to be a major part of the Falcons future. However, the ball is now in his court to prove that it was a one-time mistake and not a bad trend. The Falcons can ill afford to have one of their best players out for several games if they want to make a serious playoff run, and the question now remains: how much will Babineaux’s looming suspension hurt the 2010 Atlanta Falcons?

Your Turn

-What’s your thoughts on Babineaux’s arrest and charge?

-How many games will Babs be suspended?

-One time lapse or bad trend?

-Can Babineaux become the leader of the defense again?

-Who can fill in for #95 during his possible absence?

-How good do you feel about Falcons defensive tackle depth?

 

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Sporkdevil

June 5th, 2010
12:03 pm

Santonio Holmes: 1 game suspension on first marijuana offense.
Leroy Hill: was expected to get 1 game suspension after first marijuana offense (but that was before he got in more trouble).

He will be gone one game… I’m not too concerned. Peters should get plenty of play time, but it may be another reason we should see what Henderson’s price is.

Sporkdevil

June 5th, 2010
12:05 pm

Shaun Ellis got a 1 game suspension as well for first time violation.

Poppa Falcon

June 5th, 2010
12:15 pm

Babs put HIMSELF in a bad spot. Great player but an incredible lack of judgement in his recent arrest. He JUST got a contract extension when he pulled this crap. I’m still comfortable at the depth in out DT posistion, but it is HE who had better stop this foolishness and live up to the standards that we require of him and every other player that puts on a Falcon uniform from here on out. For every door that closes, even if it’s just temporary, there is one that opens. I for one HOPE that Corey Peters KICKS THE DOOR down. Get it together, Babs………ASAP!

Big Ray

June 5th, 2010
12:23 pm

Just for clarification and for the non-law enforcement savvy, the other charges are what we “in the business” call tack-on charges. None of them are felonies (just the bit with the marijuana). Here’s how it likely started. We’ll keep “profiling” out of the conversation just to keep things simple, but I can’t guarantee it didn’t happen. If it was me on patrol there, it starts and goes thusly-

1) Notice a vehicle with darkly tinted windows, which is a Georgia Traffic Law infraction. Attention to the vehicle in the first place may have been drawn by erratic driving or weaving (not a charge or infraction, but will get your attention) or perhaps failure to use a turn signal…something simple, but alerting an officer.

2) Following the vehicle, intending to call the tag number in to dispatch before executing a traffic stop. Noticed that tag is out of date (an infraction/violation), noticed that the tag light is out (another infraction/violation).

3) Approaching vehicle and conversing with driver reveals the absence of a driver’s license (another infraction). This breeds suspicion that something else may be wrong, and then we discover the presence of a controlled substance. Arrest and then charges from there….

The initial infractions all fall by the way side but are “tacked on” to help build the case, which is now really about the possession of a controlled substance. However, the discovery of the controlled substance is due only to the legal and proper investigation that stemmed from proper traffic enforcement. All of the small charges are necessary to justify the case and prove that a person’s rights were no violated, but I digress.

The fact is, those charges (at least some of them) may be thrown out and the concern is in fact with the controlled substance. Why? Because it’s a felony, and because it coincides with NFL controlled substance policy (even though he failed no NFL mandated drug test). Likely, this is all that Goodell will judge the situation on. Why? Minor traffic infractions that are not in any way tied to potential danger to others are of no consequence.

Can anybody be hurt by an expired tag? How about a lack of a tag light? How about tinted windows (one might argue that this hurts the driver’s ability to see what’s around him, but let’s not be silly about this)? No, no, and no.

Resisting arrest? That would have been a problem. So, this is what Goodell will most likely be looking at when deciding on a punishment. Having said that, Babineaux’s charge of possession may be reduced as part of a plea or some other deal (involving community service, etc). We don’t know for sure. What will help Babineaux is that he has no history (at least that we know of) involving controlled substances. Having been involved with law enforcement before on a totally separate and different incident should not have the impact that some might think it will.

Babineaux has no continuity of issues from what I can see. At the same time, perhaps perception among the Falcons organization may not be as harsh as it would seem. Is Babineaux normally active in the community? Does he do well in the locker room as an influence? Is there an attitude issue or some other reason/train of events or incidents that would suggest Babineaux could or would be a problem in the future? If not, then forgiveness (along with whatever necessary discipline) is in order, but there is no reason to hang it over the man’s head.

Thus endeth my opinion….

Big Ray

June 5th, 2010
12:24 pm

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Bangkapi Ajarn

June 5th, 2010
1:04 pm

Big Ray;

Very insightful post, thanks. I would add that Gwinnett police have gone WAAYYY down quality wise over the past decade based one one incident when I returned to sort out my mom’s estate after she died while I was upcountry.

I had my Asian wife with me in the car, he pulled me over and was screaming at me, for having an expired tag at 2 in the afternoon, no weaving, tinted windows, or whatever.(I didn’t know, it was my mom’s car and was taken care of by the executor) and more importantly screamed at my 4′10″ wife when she needed to go to the bathroom, with his hand on his weapon – terrifying her and reinforcing every terror she has about out of control police in third world countries – LESS THAN A WEEK AFTER ARRIVING IN THE USA FOR THE FIRST TIME! It took him maybe 20 minutes or more to wind down and go, telling me he would take my car and keep it if he saw me driving again.

They are NOT clean in my poor opinion, and the opinion of two officers from two other jurisdictions that I spoke to later. THIS was a key reason we couldn’t live in the area when I moved back. Babs may well be guilty of Marijuana, but I honestly look at any high profile arrest in Gwinnett with a jaundiced view. That has no affect on how the case plays out, however, but just because the Gwinnett police say something doesn’t make it so, in my poor opinion.

rant over, sorry.

Bangkapi Ajarn

June 5th, 2010
1:21 pm

Regards the effect of Babs suspension, it has been planned for by TD from what I can see by drafting Peters and giving JA more time at DT (and having him boost his weight). When he returns (assuming someone doesn’t get a season ending injury unexpectedly) I would think Jefferson or Walker will be out.

It DOES show a pattern of bad judgment, can’t talk his way out of tinting and license charges, and his best case scenario would be to prove the grass belonged to his friend – which again shows extremely poor judgment.

Once this is over TD, AB, and Smitty NEED to try to get Babs into a better group of friends, use the mentoring system they appear to be using for rookies and get Babs a positive role model peer to hang out with, the sky is the limit for that young man if he avails himself of that opportunity.

If not, see Pacman Jones, etc. Tragic waste of a human being with all the opportunities in the world laid out before him.

Babs is at a crossroads that will impact the rest of his life, the football is almost secondary to what is at stake for that promising, talented young man. It isn’t too late, but he is in last chance territory Falcons wise, I suspect.

Bangkapi Ajarn

June 5th, 2010
1:31 pm

Sporkdevil;

I definitely like your precedents more, one game would be much more palatible team and fan wise. Hope it’s enough to get Babs attention.

SeminoleWarrior

June 5th, 2010
1:54 pm

D3, another stellar masterpiece!! What’s up Cage Family.

BA and Big Ray, great points made by you both. Poppa Falcon’s 12:15 post summarizes it best I feel. Man, up Babs!!

As one that has committed his fair share of “moral” indiscretions in the past, I would say that the best lessons learned are to accept responsibility for your actions and then, learn not to repeat them. Surround yourself with positive, ignor the negative, and strive to improve a facet of your life each and every day. Babs, can you hear me. This is a fan talking to you brother, but this fan is YOUR brother. For we all make mistakes. But the greater person will become stronger, not weaker, from the wrong as he/she seeks to move to the right. Can you hear me, Babs.

One of the best moves of the McKay/Mora era was the signing of Babs. Over his tenure, he has, in a very quiet manner, becomes perhap the best “unknown” undertackle in the league. As D3 stated, his performance has been stellar. Each year, Babs has improved, his leadership has been solid, and his impact on the game noted. He should have been at least a Pro Bowl alternate by now. He is a key element of the game, the defense, and the team. But this is not about any of those things.

This is about a man getting his act together. This is about a man getting help if he has an issue with substance/drug abuse. This is about a man using proper judgement, showing respect for his loved ones and the greater community of man, his team, and most importantly, HIMSELF. Babs, are you there, my brother?

Look, the suspension will be 2-4 games. He will be missed without a doubt. He IS the best DT on our roster, hands down. Peters, Johnson, and Walker will provide depth and playing time. Jerry, if he returns, will augment the role. But it is Babs, who is the unquestionable force that mans our front. But Babs, this Falcon fan cares more about you the man than you the football player. I do not want to have to be in the Dome, observing a moment of silence, for you as a result of some silly act that could have been prevented by you simply manning up. Cut the crap, JB. Let’s do this!!

Take this time to reflect Jonathan. Roger Goddell will hit you with your penalty. But I want you to commit to my “punishment”, brother. I want you to get some counseling. Get rid of friends that want to cruise the streets with marijuana in their rides or in their possession. Forget the tint on the windows (you make yourself a target, so why do it)? Let TD, Smitty, and AB help you get this help AND I insist that they do it. Get out into the community, talk to the youth and young adults about the dangers of drug use. Donate some TIME and money to DARE awareness campaigns, do a PSA, and get out there, helping break this cycle. You can do this, JB. I have seen you handle a challenge on the field; now, deal with this challenge in your life.

I leave this thought for you, JB. It is from my favorite military leader, General George S. Patton. He too was a troubled man (angry, driven, selfish, prejudice) but he put all that aside for the greater good of his nation as he led his troops in battle.

“You need to overcome the tug of people against you as you reach for high goals”. ….GSP

Put the bullshit aside, JB. Lead yourself along a path, a greater path. For as much as I would like to see you be a Pro Bowler and a Super Bowl winner, I would much rather you simply be, a good and descent man whose life is not at risk as a result of living dangerously and silly.

One Nation…Falcon Nation.

SeminoleWarrior

June 5th, 2010
2:02 pm

Great post D3…been awaiting this one.

BA and Big Ray, great comments. Detailed and personal in nature but they provide some deep insigh

Back shortly with some comments from the TeePee.

ATLJBO

June 5th, 2010
2:06 pm

I dont think Babs cases is like the guys posted above D3… I would compare his case with Santonio Holmes Case …. Holmes was suspended only 1 game for his 1st possession of marijuana charge… Holmes had a disorderly conduct charge already on record before his 1st possession of marijuana charge.

Matt Jones was suspended for violating the league’s substance abuse policy for 3 weeks…

I think at the most Babs miss 2 games…. I know they will enter him in the drug testing program….

We will miss Babs if he miss any games.. Dude is one of the best DT’s in the league…. I do think we can survive a couple of games without Babs tho … I think we can beat the Steelers and the Cardinals without Babs….. We definitely need him for the Saints game.

I’m hoping that Jamaal Anderson can step up with him bulking up to 290lbs… JA98 wasnt bad at DT….. Corey Peters will also be asked to step up….. We would also need Peria to step up.

Sidenote: I dont know if you guys have seen this but William Moore said this about Peria Jerry

It’s not likely DT Peria Jerry (knee) will participate in OTAs. But SS William Moore, who was rehabbing with Jerry and the other injured players, said he’s coming along. “He’s working his tail off,” Moore said. “He’s back to running, back to lifting. He’s on track so I look forward to seeing him back out very soon.”

SeminoleWarrior

June 5th, 2010
2:08 pm

One of the best moves made by the regime of McKay and Mora was the drafting and signing of Jonathan Babineaux. As an undertackle at Iowa, Babs was a force. In 2009, as I lobbied for the Falcons to take Ziggy Hood in the first round, I saw Ziggy as a Babs clone. Quick, strong, an attacking force on the inside, and a relentless player. That is what I saw.

Babs is without a doubt, the best DL player we have on our roster. Abe gets all the credit due to his sack totals BUT it is Babs that is the clog in the middle. When he plays, that DL produces on the inside. He should have, as D3 stated, been at least a Pro Bowl alternate by now. TD knew he had a gold mine in place, thus his immediate actions to extend Babs long term, making him an key piece of the evolving Process. And he will still be a part of that Process. But there will have to be some major, PERSONAL, changes..

Part two follows…

SeminoleWarrior

June 5th, 2010
2:13 pm

Part Two..

Babs made some very silly mistakes. I pray that he has learned from them. I pray that he has OR will get the help he needs to remove drug and/or substance needs from his life. It is up to him. The NFL will give him a 2-4 game suspension for his act. AB, TD, and Smitty need to ensure that Babs gets the help he needs (make counselling MANDATORY). Look, I am not blind here. I too have lived in a glass house.

The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of convenience but where he stands in moments of challenge and controversy. Atlanta’s favorite son taught us all that. Babs, heed the words of MLK. Do what is right for yourself and your family. After all, when we are all done shouting your name, it is those loved ones who will need and love you most. Do the right thing Babs.
In order to be the man, you must beat the man. Rid yourself of those silly tendancies and be that man.

For the Falcon Nation, yes, but most of all, for yourself.

SeminoleWarrior

June 5th, 2010
2:19 pm

ATL JBO, I pray that both Moore and Hip Hip are on their ways back. In May, at training camp,Iw as impressed with how much Moore wanted to be on that field. He was upset but you could tell in the conversation that he is still focused on the mental preparations that go with being a player in the NFL. He impressed as he told me and CB how he is studying our division’s QBs, especially Drew Brees, and how he wants to get on that field ASAP. He has all the skills we want as an aggressive safety. I pray he get to show it more this season. You will not regret what you see.

As far as Hip Hip Peria goes, I’m known as being against his selection last year. But truth be told, I really want the young man to succeed. If he is as motivated as William Moore suggests he is, then I am happy. If we can get Lewis and Jerry back into the mix, my God, that DT corps will be awesome.

SeminoleWarrior

June 5th, 2010
2:32 pm

During Babs’ suspension, I want to see the re-emergence of Trey Lewis. Lewis was on his way to being a beast before the injury. If he has 75% of that upset back, given his size, power, and space taking ability, he will be a major force inside, allowing the likes of Hip Hip, Peters, or Johnson to play the undertackle with ease.

Keep an eye on Peters. He reminds me a lot of a player that Jack Del Rio took two years ago. DT Terrance Knighton, formerly of Temple, was taken in the third round by the Jags. LIke Peters, a lot of the pundits considered Knighton a reach in the third round. Those same pundits said that he would not pan out, we was the product of a system, and would be slow to adjust to the NFL game.
Well, in his first year as a starter last season, this is what Knighton did. Not bad for a “tenative bust”. Compare him to the highly touted DT that went in the first round the year before…no name needed; just say we took MR2 instead of this guy.

http://www.nfl.com/players/terranceknighton/profile?id=KNI770772

http://www.nfl.com/players/glenndorsey/profile?id=DOR587585

ATLJBO

June 5th, 2010
2:39 pm

SeminoleWarrior

Yea.. It seem like William Moore really wants to be great.

I was a big time Peria fan coming out of college (still is) … I remember seeing dude destroy the Pouncey twins…. I still think Jerry will be a great DT in the NFL.

SeminoleWarrior

June 5th, 2010
2:43 pm

ATLJBO, I am really hoping so. Smitty and TD seem to be very attached to him and want him on the field in the worst of ways. If he has won over the masters of the Process, then as I am committed to the Process, I give him my best wishes.

SeminoleWarrior

June 5th, 2010
2:46 pm

I just want Moore and Spoon on the field. I loved what I saw at Mizzou from them both. And I love what they have the potential to bring to the ATL defense. D3 and Cb have schooled me on the advantages of BVG having his type of players.

Well, after seeing Spoon in his drills, CB seems to be assured that in Spoon, BVG has his type of guy. D3, do you concur about your former DC?

Bangkapi Ajarn

June 5th, 2010
3:01 pm

SW:
“The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of convenience but where he stands in moments of challenge and controversy”.

OUTSTANDING!! Kinna says it all, doesn’t it?

I used to give ALL students coming into my first year University course the same speech: They are grown now, and learning to be adults. If they learn nothing else here, they must learn responsibility. With responsibility comes the education, which brings opportunities. I even kept the word “responsibility” on the board. Decisions they made in my class could affect their lives for the next 30 or 40 years.

Shame no one drills this into some of these young men and women these days, understanding this one fact could have saved Babs a heaping ration of grief. I must be getting old :-) .

SeminoleWarrior

June 5th, 2010
3:07 pm

BA, thanks. That is one of the most enduring quotes of Martin Luther King…considering he had so many of them. But it is a powerful testament to the capacity of man.

I agree with you. I wonder why that we take a passive approach towards educating the future about the complex nature of life. Oh well, as long as you, I, and most of the Cage are above ground, we will ensure that the mission goes on.

We all slip. The challenge is to get and get back in the game…the right game, that is.

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SeminoleWarrior

June 5th, 2010
3:22 pm

Breaking right for a few. Will check in later. I’m out.

The Real Falcon

June 5th, 2010
4:07 pm

I find it interesting that you went out of your way to whitewash the earlier incident to wit: “Babineaux should get the benefit of this being his first and only real incident.” and “even though he was proven to do nothing wrong.”
What he did was kill his girfriend’s dog. Not certain about yours but that’s pretty serious around this house.
Lets’ at least call it what it is if we are to have an intelligent and informed discourse, please!

SeminoleWarrior

June 5th, 2010
4:32 pm

RF, I’m going to step out there and assume that D3 did not mean to suggest that the animal cruelty case is to be taken lightly. As a matter of fact, he seems to suggest that even though the courts “found” no wrong doings, the court of public opinion recalls the incident well.

The system will in deed run its course in this matter. It is sure to cause some strife among the masses. What we need is for Babs to clean up his conduct, stand up and be responsible, and make sure that he never puts himself, his family, or this team in this situation again.

Cruelty in any form, whether it be to animals or humans, should not be condoned. Punishment should be appropriate and swift in each case. I am sure we can agree on that.

Thanks for your passion and voice..

Moose

June 5th, 2010
5:01 pm

He killed the dog defending his daughter who I beleive was at the time was 3……. The dog had a history of bad behavior and thats why the charges were dropped….

Moose

June 5th, 2010
5:05 pm

D3…….. Is Trey Lewis looking great in OTAs or am I missing something? The guy missed 8 games last year and looked pedestrian at best when he did play…… Thomas Johnson and Vance Walker played much better and considering Walker was in his rookie year I feel he’ll stick……….

Ken Strickland

June 5th, 2010
5:24 pm

It’s very hard to determine which DT’s will start. I just don’t think PJerry will be fully recovered and able to assume a starting roll by seasons start. TJohnson and VWalker proved don’t the stretch to be solid against the run. However, with Smitty wanting more inside pressure on the QB, rookie CPeters might get the nob, if he gets it done during training camp and preseason.

He and TLewis would make a solid combination. However, Smitty might play it safe and go with VWalker over the rookie, especially if he’s improved his pass rushing skills.

Moose

June 5th, 2010
5:51 pm

Thomas Johnson had two sacks last year and Walker got better ever game he played…… We also have JA98 in the fold so I feel we should do just fine with Babs out for a game or two……….

SeminoleWarrior

June 5th, 2010
6:42 pm

K Strick and Moose, points well made on both fronts. Depth could be considerable at the position.

Sarah B

June 5th, 2010
6:45 pm

In addition to the possession charges, Babineaux is charged with having no tag light and driving without a license and with an expired tag. He also was charged with tinting his car windows too much.

Wow, lock him up and throw away the key!

Weed – although illegal is less dangerous than alcohol. Most people stay home to get high. Drunk driving kills how many people??? Just say’in.

SeminoleWarrior

June 5th, 2010
6:49 pm

Lady Sarah, have not forgotten about you. I keep checking but the DoD has a hiring freeze in effect at this time. But my friends at Dobbins are keeping watch for me.

Sarah B

June 5th, 2010
6:49 pm

And the only reason it’s illegal is the government can’t how to tax it unlike tobacco, also worse.

SeminoleWarrior

June 5th, 2010
6:51 pm

Sarah B for Governor!!

Sarah B

June 5th, 2010
6:52 pm

SW I have a really excellent interview Monday at 2. Cross your fingers. We had a great phone chat and it was just after getting my resume 2 hours earlier. It is in Kennesaw but that’s what the car is for.

Sarah B

June 5th, 2010
6:54 pm

SW have you had the Kitten fixed yet?

SeminoleWarrior

June 5th, 2010
6:58 pm

Sarah, there is no hope for the Kitten. If she wants to support those flea riddled varmits that inhabit the great Litter box in Charlotte, then more power to her.

Sarah B

June 5th, 2010
7:05 pm

Matt Moore? Really? The noise they play when they score sounds like a toilet flushing. Good Luck! Our problem is The Aint’s.

SeminoleWarrior

June 5th, 2010
7:18 pm

I think we will have the Ain’ts number this season. The Process is about to take it to another level!!

Stirg d'Nahsif

June 5th, 2010
7:36 pm

Good e’ening, people. Good work on your earlier post, Big Ray. Went to Auto Zone earlier and got a bulb for my tag. Still looking for that game with ya.

SeminoleWarrior, what’s been happening, brother? Haven’t got any mail from You in awhile. Good call on Terrance Knighton. Makes sense to me.

Ladies and gentleman, boys and girls, are you ready for some serious football? Are you ready to witness the chemistry from the elements that TD and company has compounded for the past three seasons? Are you ready to make a run at the Super Bowl, again? Well, it won’t happen if Mrs. John Abraham don’t pull his panties up and get his sorry buttocks out there on that field. I know this particular blog ain’t about Mrs. Abraham today but this is what happens when you’re absent from a leadership role; it interrupts chemistry and disrupts cohesion. We wouldn’t even be concerned about the eventual absence of Babineaux if it Old Abe would step up and get this wall together. We look forward to our three-headed monster safety tandem (Coleman, Moore and DeCoud) because we know their chemical reaction together is going to show-up in the NFL. We look forward to the three-headed monster in the line-backing corp (’Spoon, Lofton and Nicholos) because, with their youth, they will mesh and be the squad to be reckoned with around the NFL. The defensive line is the only aspect of our defense that we challenge. We don’t know if J. Anderson is going to excel at tackle or is he going to, finally, be the MAN at end. We don’t know if Hip-Hip Peria is going to play healthy. We don’t know if the rookies (including second and third year players) will step up to the plate (or, in this case, line). We could have the best cornerback tandem in the NFC (Robinson, Owens and Grimes) if we had a pass rush that could touch a quarterback in less that four seconds. If Mrs. Abraham would step up and grab a hold of this squad, maybe we could create an attitude of “no excuses”. Positive involvement is contagious and its actions will be reciprocated. How can Old Abe ask Jerry to “fight through the pain”? How can he smack Biermann on the rump and say “keep trying; keep going”? How can Abe lead if he’s absent? A veteran’s positive involvement affects the entire team. Can you imagine a rotating corp of linemen with Abraham, a healthy Jerry, Anderson, Biermann, Sidbury, Peters, Babineaux and Johnson (I know I could continue but the talent is getting me woozy)? To have this group of young, big men under your command is unimaginable. Abraham needs to do what Coleman is doing with the defensive backfield and what Lofton is doing with the linebackers. He needs to take the initiative and coach these fellows up to be the best they can be. You do that by example.

I was reading an article about Roddy White wanting to improve his Yards After Catch this season. The following is from the AJC:

“After White’s two Pro Bowls, he could have skipped some of the ‘voluntary’ OTAs, but he looks at them as an opportunity to stay in shape and be around his teammates. ‘That’s real big when you have a chance to make the playoffs and make a run at this thing,’ White said.”

Sarah B

June 5th, 2010
7:42 pm

That’s our Stirg!!! How’s DET my friend?

thunderbull56

June 5th, 2010
7:51 pm

Hello,now you slip Babs in.Duuh.Who gives a flying fat rat’s #$$!

Stirg d'Nahsif

June 5th, 2010
7:53 pm

Exactly six days and a wakeup, Sarah B., I’ll be out of this city and likely won’t be back. To me, right now, DET is looking good, in my rear view mirror. On the contrary, the Lions are looking good. Your boy Stafford does not look like he’ll be going through any sophomore slump. (side note) Did you see the stolen perfect game from Galaraga the other day? With all the murders, police brutality, unemployment, corruption and losing teams (Wings, Pistons, Tigers and Lions), I suspect a riot brewing around these parts.

rainman

June 5th, 2010
7:55 pm

When is this issue with Babs most likely to be resolved??????

Sarah B

June 5th, 2010
8:00 pm

Stirg, you headed back here? I heard somthing funny the other day… “Don’t you want to go back?” Laughed very hard…..

Stirg d'Nahsif

June 5th, 2010
8:02 pm

Yep, headed to big ATL…

Sarah B

June 5th, 2010
8:07 pm

Good Luck to Stafford. I think DET teams are cursed. We need a Cage meeting up.

John Waynesworld

June 5th, 2010
8:22 pm

Interesting stuff D3.

It may be that I have a mental block (which happens alot) or I may be sensing a stat anomaly, but I was wondering why Babineaux’s stats are so drastically different from his 2008 stats. From ProFootballFocus.com:

Overall Rating — (2009) 1st (19.2 Rating) ~ (2008) 32nd (1.4 Rating)
Pass Rushing – (2009) 5th (9.4 Rating) ~ (2008) 11th (6.4 Rating)
Pass Coverage – (2009) 1st (5.0 Rating) ~ (2008) 60th (0.0 Rating)
Run Defense – (2009) 22nd (5.8 Rating) ~ (2008) 55th (-5.0 Rating)
Sacks – (2009) 1st (6.5 sacks) ~ (2008) T-10th (4.0 sacks)
QB Hits – (2009) T-12th (5) ~ (2008) T-4th (11)
QB Pressures – (2009) 2nd (25) ~ (2008) T-9th (20)
Batted Passes – (2009) T-13th (2) ~ (2008) T-15th (2)
Tackles – (2009) 4th (39) ~ (2008) T-28th (29)
Stops [Resulted in Offensive Failure] – (2009) 1st (43) ~ (2008) T-26th (25)

The numbers are way down in 2008 in several catagories – 1) Overall, 2) Pass coverage, 3) Rush defense, 4) Tackles and 5) Stops. Now if I recall we had a new defensive coordinator that year but the same 4-3. Personnel-wise we had basically the same nameless bunch of DTs except…Grady Jackson. Grady took away most of those stats, especially the run stats. But if Grady was that good, then why did we trade him away? Because he was old (37), looked out of shape and we were worried about him? No, actually in 2008 Wavy Grady was 21st in the league for DTs, 11 spots ahead of Babs, and the year before he was 17th. It must have been the years Grady wanted on the new contract. If Babs was so good last year, imagine what our line would have been last year with Wavy in there. By the way, Grady still registered a respectable #45 on the lowly Lions last year.

Or were they basically taking away stats from each other in ‘08 and played better as a tandem? In 2007 Grady and Babs were 17th and 22nd, respectively. In 2008 those same two were 21st and 32nd. In 2009 Babs was #1 (which is great), but the next Falcon on the list was none other than Vance Walker at #59 with Thomas Johnson limping in at #61. So maybe those statistics state that Babs was racking ups those stats in 2009 because he had no determinable help from any other Falcon defensive tackle. Just kicking it around.

Stirg, Mrs. Abraham? lol

Stirg d'Nahsif

June 5th, 2010
8:24 pm

Good work, John Wayne-.

JJ

June 5th, 2010
8:41 pm

damn, got some reading to do…good job cagers…back after the la game…