Falcons Free Agent DE Targets

Should the Falcons Make a DE Move?

A short while ago, then general manager Rich McKay pulled a deal for John Abraham from the New York Jets in a three way trade with the Denver Broncos. The trade was a bold move that looked to form one of the deadliest defensive end combos in the NFL with Patrick Kerney manning the other side. Although Kerney was in the last year of his deal contract with the Falcons, there looked to be at least one year of two of the best defensive ends on the same team and a complete nightmare for opposing quarterbacks. Unfortunately, it didn’t work out as planned. Abraham went down with an injury and only started 7 games with 4 sacks and Patrick Kerney battled injuries as well, only starting 9 games himself. It was very rare to even see Abraham and Kerney on the field at the same time. The defensive end positions, at least one of them anyway, have been a major point of low production on the field and contention among fans.

Kerney left for Seattle as soon as free agency started and McKay drafted Jamaal Anderson with the 8th overall pick in 2007’s NFL Draft. Anderson’s struggles and trials have been well-documented by a wide range of fans and sportswriters alike. In simple terms, Anderson has had 2.5 sacks in 44 games started pretty well nails the door shut on his success at defensive end. He may end up being successful at defensive tackle, but he is likely done at D-End besides the occasional rotation.

There is a fairly big chasm among fans and the media alike on how much of a need defensive end actually is for the Falcons. One side believes that it is finally time to draft a top-flight D-End to help rush the quarterback and create much needed pressure in the backfield. Their argument surely holds merit since the Falcons were one of the lowest ranked teams in terms of sacks and QB pressure. Either through the draft or free agency, its time for the Falcons to seriously upgrade the other defensive end position opposite John Abraham.

The other side of the argument has fans believing that the Falcons already have two answers already on the roster in Kroy Biermann and Lawrence Sidbury Jr. Biermann had 2 sacks in very limited time as a rookie and more than doubled his sack total in his second year as a rotational player. Many believe he has potential to become the next Patrick Kerney. Sidbury Jr. didn’t have a fantastic rookie year by any means, but he did come away with a sack and returned touchdown in very narrow time on the field.

As with many of the other positions, the market for defensive ends is very limited due to the uncapped year and failure to reach a new collective bargaining agreement. Although Thomas Dimitroff will probably sit tight in free agency as a whole, particularly the big names, adding a key piece at defensive end would really free up some possibilities in the draft. A look at some potential D-End targets:

Julius Peppers – 6’7, 283, 30 years old

Since it became known that Carolina would pass on placing their franchise tag on Julius Peppers a few weeks ago, news close to the Falcons and Atlanta has been abuzz that the Birds might go after the perennial Pro Bowler. No question that Peppers is one of the best defensive ends in football and probably the biggest free agent on the market, but it’s very doubtful that Dimitroff will go after such a big name that’s certain to carry such a high price tag. Peppers signed a $16.7 million dollar one year deal with the Panthers last year when they franchised him. Peppers has been quoted to see a minimum of $10 million and could climb as high as $20 million if a team seriously overpays. There’s no question that Peppers would look amazing in red and black, suiting up across from John Abraham, but that goes completely against the two themes of process and patience that have been preached from day one by the Dimitroff/Coach Smith regime.

Aaron Kampman – 6’4, 260, 30 years old

Many have considered Kampman leaving a done deal since he had to move to outside linebacker after the switch to the 3-4 defense. He was reportedly not very happy with the move, at least initially. Kampman had almost 10+ sacks from 2006 – 2008, with his best year coming in 2006 with 50 tackles and 15.5 sacks. The newly converted outside linebacker was doing pretty well with the transition (42 combined tackles, 3.5 sacks) before he was injured in the 9th game of the season and place on IR. Ranked as a very productive OLB in the 3-4 scheme in terms of a being a complete player: very good rushing the passer and stopping the run, but predictably struggling in coverage. Rehab is apparently going well, but do the Falcons want to take a chance on a 30 year old defensive end coming back from injury?

Adewale Ogunleye – 6’4, 260, 33 years old

The Bears defensive end has been on somewhat of a decline in recent years, averaging just over 5 sacks the last two years (5 in 2008 and 6.5 in 2009) and was benched the last two games in favor of Gaines Adams, whose life tragically ended in January. Ogunleye has only posted huge sack numbers twice in his career (15 in 2003, 10 in 2005), but has been extremely consistent in terms of averaging between 7 to 9 sacks. Doubtful Dimitroff would pay for a defensive end of 33 years old, but he could add insurance to developing Biermann and Sidbury Jr.

Jarvis Green – 6’3, 285, 31 years old

Probably a reach, but Dimitroff knows Green well from his days in New England. He may have even been a part of scouting him as well. Green is primarily a 3-4 defensive end that is suited to mainly stop the run and not necessarily dependent on rushing the passer. The Falcons need a serious pass rushing improvement and not sure this adds anything. Did have 6.5 sacks in 2007, but only had 3 sacks over the last two years.

As with almost every single position in free agency, many defensive ends became restricted with the failure to reach a new collective bargaining agreement. Any chance to land one of these players would cost one or more draft picks.

Restricted Free Agents

Ray Edwards – Vikings

Johnny Jolly – Packers

Marcus Spears – Cowboys

Much like all positions in free agency this year, the market for defensive ends is paper thin. Much talk has been made of the Falcons being interested in Peppers, but the price tag will put likely out him way out of reach. Dimitroff will likely either give Biermann and Sidbury Jr. a big chance to earn the starting job outright or draft a future defensive end in the first round.

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JJ

February 23rd, 2010
11:42 pm

Norwood to Philly for 3rd to GB for Kampman.

Sarah B

February 23rd, 2010
11:51 pm

Sarah B

February 23rd, 2010
11:55 pm

Oh trade Norwood to Philly for their 3rd then give the 3rd to GB for Kampman… I see and I like it.

JJ

February 23rd, 2010
11:56 pm

I would trade norwood for kamp and draft a speedster to go with turner and snelling in later rds. Since smitty likes to rotate, we’d have Abe, Bieerman, Kamp, Sid and Davis rotating. Jamaal is DT, emergency back-up DE. We still draft spoon and immediately our CB will be 10x better with our improved front 7. But he is 30?

JJ

February 24th, 2010
12:01 am

But the age factor is a problem SB. But we need some new young fast blood at RB and I like snelling over norwood for rb2. Dont know, what do you think? How old is norwood do you know, and how bad has his injuries been? And what if mularkey grew a brain and started calling swing passes for our rb? Je ne sais pas!

robertussen

February 24th, 2010
12:02 am

the bears are going after peppers or kampman and i dont think the front office will over pay for a older player, i do, however, think that kampman would fit the bill as a falcon, then go after a cb or lb in the 1st round. but that is up to management to decide and i trust them. they know way more than you or i. it is fun to speculate though, and say who we should or shouldnt pay for.

Sarah B

February 24th, 2010
12:11 am

I definately think we should keep Snelling over Norwood. He ran really well last year.

ATLJBO

February 24th, 2010
12:37 am

Why trade for Kampman…. He is a Unrestricted FA JJ

But yea… back to the topic

I would draft a DE… There are going to be a really talented DE at the 19th or 20 spot…. Guys like Brandon Graham or Everson Griffen,

I hope Biermann and Sidbury is the answer but im not sure…. That LDE position was up for grabs last year and Biermann didnt win it…. I know some will say this or that but those are the facts… Biermann saw the 2nd most pass rushing snaps at the DE position (only behind Abe) …. Kroy was in a rotation but dude saw allot of snaps……

Breaking down the snaps even more… Kroy Biermann produced 3 of his 5 sacks in the first 5 weeks…. After that he had 2 sacks in 12 weeks….

Lawrence Sidbury did not see allot of snaps but as of right now i think Thomas Dimitroff see’s sidbury as a rotational guy

Asked about Lawrence Sidbury, the fourth-round defensive end who just completed his rookie season, Dimitroff said: “I think he has a future. I see him being a nice rotational pass rusher. The ball’s in his court as to whether he can take it to the next level.
http://blogs.ajc.com/mark-bradley-blog/2010/01/21/the-falcons-gm-sniffing-the-pits-and-seeking-consistency/

I honestly think he see Kroy Biermann and Lawrence Sidbury as rotational guys with potential to become starters one day…. Its nothing wrong with being a rotational guy tho…

I would compare Kroy Biermann to the Vikings DE Brian Robison (Howie Long had him as 1 of his top 10 “up incoming players”… Both are 6′3 260lbs rotational guys that has the potential to become starters one day…

Lat year there was a report sating that Thomas Dimitroff had his eyes on Robert Ayers but he went off the draft boards before our pick….. This year’s draft will have even more better prospects at DE (more talented then Ayers)

I dont know what direction we will go in but either in the Draft or FA….. I think DE is a position of need.

Sarah B

February 24th, 2010
12:43 am

Graham will be gone by 19-20.

gabuldawg

February 24th, 2010
12:44 am

I would really like us to save money and cut Jamaal Anderson but his 2009 cap was only $773K. His signing bonus jumps his cap amount to over $3M a year so it is probably not worth cutting him. We’d actually lose vice using him as a DT. I say we don’t go after any of the FA DE’s this year. None of them are guarantees and will cost us too much. Let’s keep up what TD has started and keep building through the draft. Trust the process!

Box

February 24th, 2010
1:04 am

The first round pick is OLB. Spoon, Kindle, or kid from Penn St. Peterson is going over the edge at 34. Can you say Brooking, The Sequel? Lots of tackles, 10 yards down field. Peterson filled his roll, but the Process calls for youth.

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Sarah B

February 24th, 2010
1:09 am

Box

February 24th, 2010
1:12 am

Sarah B.
Hey BBG. Any news?

Sarah B

February 24th, 2010
1:17 am

Nope – none good.

Box

February 24th, 2010
1:19 am

Sorry to hear. It will come through for you.

Sarah B

February 24th, 2010
1:24 am

Soon Box Soon,,,

Ed

February 24th, 2010
2:32 am

Keep’em coming D3…good breakdown. IMHO, 30 years old and over don’t do it. 29 and younger let’s talk. That knocks out any of the free agents we are looking at here. The Falcons also have many questions that have to be answered about our first and second year players.A big free agent signing seems to be at least a year away.Keep building through the draft and developing our own players. We certainly don’t need to be giving away future draft picks as compensation.

Gary

February 24th, 2010
4:48 am

Going after Peppers would be my first priority. Peppers only lives about 2 hours from ATL so he wouldnt have to move his family and I think he will be happy to be a Falcon because of that and the fact that he will be on a winning team with a new contract and good fans. Not only that but the Falcons defensive line would be one of the best if not the best in the NFL. Peppers, Jerry, Bab, and Abraham! WOW! Teams would no longer be able to double team Abraham nor could they double team Peppers. They both demand a double team and one of them would get a one on one match up every down! and I dont know one offensive tackle or tight-end that can block either guy one on one. Peppers would come in and make an immediate impact and that is what the Falcons need, not waiting for a player to develop. The only question is what kind of price tag is Peppers going to be asking for. If it is too high than I say pass on the rest of the free agent DE’s and draft a DE, but go after Peppers first and see if we can get him for a good price.

SeminoleWarrior

February 24th, 2010
6:15 am

Sustain the Process…

All these guys are too old and will command too much cash. There is value at the DE position in this draft.

We could get a kid like Brandon Lang in the middle of the draft and develop him over the next year or so. Abe is good for one more year and Biermann could evolve.

SUSTAIN THE PROCESS!!

The Real Falcon

February 24th, 2010
6:59 am

A backfield with Turner and Snelling only is a slow backfield. No thanks.

Unca' Bob

February 24th, 2010
7:09 am

D3,

I’m in the K Biermann camp. If you project the number of snaps played per player, Peppers had 806 with 10 sacks 10 hits and 33 pressures. If Biermann had 805 snaps he would have had 7 sacks, 10 hits and 32 pressures. Biermann’s base salary is $385,000.00. I can’t see $16.3 Million dollars worth of difference.

The two spots with the most need to be addressed this season are OLB and TE(IMO). With Gresham’s knee surgery, he’s out. That leaves OLB, the spot to be addressed first. To me, it just seems logical.

JJ

February 24th, 2010
8:49 am

Unca’Bob, good to see ya buddy!

D3, nice post brother. After sleeping on it, I’m not for Kamp due to age/$$$. Bieerman will be a beast and draft some DE depth in later rds. After we draft spoon, our next 2 picks may be TE and WR. If Norwood is gone, then RB becomes pretty impt. Not discounting coop and f21, we have to address depth at OL. It will get clearer after FA.

No peppers, no peppers, no peppers!!!

Nookah

February 24th, 2010
10:13 am

Greetings Cagers!!!

Unca’ Bob, great to have you in the cage. I made a quick visit to DOL’s “house” and saw you in the living room!! Great to have you where you belong. I like the analysis. Too often we tend to look at a players reputation which is sometimes based on a few good years or in some cases one really good year. However, when you dig deeper and go below the numbers many times you will find that what you thought you saw was not so great. Always look beyong the hype. I think Biermann will get better and so will “The Sid”. I’m also with you on the OLB pick (OK Seminole, I won’t say it, because you will anyway….lol)

I concur with SW, sustain the process. That is the sign of a good leader/CEO/GM. Create a sound foundation, execute your strategy and don’t waver. It’s obvious that the building blocks are firmly in place. A tweek here or there will put us over the top.

What I think has happened is that we were spoiled by that 11-5 season which, all things considered the season before, should not have been. However, being true fans we always expect more and tend to have short memories. If we are all objective and remembering where we were in the “Pre-Process” years, if someone told us then that we would have a 9-7 season in 2009 wouldn’t we have been satisfied? In fact some of us would be ecstatic. However, that’s who we are as fans and all we want to do is win and support our team.

As the now established cliche goes, “in TD we trust”. So let’s not get derailed from the Process and sign some expensive FA, but look at our existing assets, do the proper scouting (as TD is known for), and recruit us some gems.

We will rock ‘em, in 2010 and in 2011 we’ll be in Football heaven!!!!

Go Falcons!!!

Nuff respect everytime!!!

WR

February 24th, 2010
10:41 am

Morning cage, this will probably come across crazy to some, but its the offseason, and as fans its a time of playing GM. JJ made a good point early, the part where he referred to trading Norwood for a 3rd rounder from Philly. So far the Falcons have at least one third rounder, with a possible second coming from the loss of Brooking( it probably will end up being a 4th). Anyway, sitting in the number two slot in the first round and looking to trade out is the Lion’s, a team with numerous holes. Lets say your the Falcons, you trade Norwood to Philly for a 3rd, you package one of your thirds and your 1st ship it to the Rams to swap positions in the first round. With that pick you can take either Nadamukong Suh or Gerald McCoy both DTs. If you get either one you have the makings of a dominant front four. You move Babs to DE, you still have developing players in Biermann and Sidbury, with a key reserve in Davis, plus occasionally JA#98 specifically in an emergency. Here’s your starting front four, Suh or McCoy, Jerry, at DT, with Abe and Babs at DE, and in reserve, Walker, Johnson, and Andersen at DT, with Biermann, Sidbury, and Davis at DE, thats one hell of a DL rotation, talk about starting in the trenches. Now the Falcons still have either one third or two third round picks remaining. With one of the thirds or the only third you take Rodderick Muckelroy, OLB, from Texas, With all of the remaining picks the birds could add depth on the OL, get a quality WR, CB, and a speedy RB. Why it might work to continue

WR

February 24th, 2010
10:51 am

It all starts in the trenches, whether you believe offenses win championships, or defenses win championships. If the trenches are solidified, you fill in around them. A great linebacking core in a 4-3 has never taken a team far, but a great DL in a 4-3 has, a great LB core in a 3-4 has taken a team a team far, but a great DL hasn’t. Point is the Falcons run a 4-3, if they can’t trade up or trade back, Spoon would be a nice pick at OLB. But if they can trade up without losing the farm, building a great front four in Smitty’s system is paramount to success. We have heard the coaches harping on Spencer Adkins but we don’t know the outcome, taking a player like Muckelroy in later rounds, especially with the opportunity to move up at hand, is a good move when building a dominate defense. Just to clarify, this is just a thought, can’t say its where I stand, I’m big on adding firepower on offense, and securing weapons around Ryan, but its a thought, its the offseason, its a time when we’re working in the scouting department and not getting paid for, and no one in a decision making position is listening to us anyway, at least I guess not.

CBrass

February 24th, 2010
11:26 am

D3,

Great job. All of the above guys are 30 years or older and will most likely demand top dollar due to the fact that this will probably be their last chance of getting a fat contract. I’ve said it many times give Beirmann and Sid Jr. a chance to prove themselves. Hell we gave “Bust98″ 3 years to prove himself why are we so fast to give up on 2 young DE’s? Beirmann has shown progression in limited time lets see what he has giving more snaps.

As for the Norwood to Philly thing…NOT GOOD. I can see him having the career there that he’s capable of having while he’s here. Mad Mike simply have to open up the play book and play towards his strengths. People want us to draft a speedy back…hello we have one right now. What’s the point of trading one speedy back for another if Mad Mike misuses him? Just imagine when we go up to Philly this year and Norwood burning us on an 80 yard TD via a screen pass!!! The thought makes me made as hell.

Unca' Bob

February 24th, 2010
11:57 am

To those that are not familiar with the combine and the drills performed, this is pretty good.

http://www.nfl.com/combine/workouts

CBrass

February 24th, 2010
12:03 pm

Unca’ Bob,

Thanks for the link and good to see you back.

WR

February 24th, 2010
12:24 pm

CBrass, I get your point on Norwood, and not many would disagree with you, but consider the overall picture when considering Norwood. Its not that he’s not a speedy quick back, he is, its that he’ built bad for the position. Warrick Dunn is one of my favorite backs of all time, in college as well as the pros, the different between he and Norwood is that Dunn was proportionate to his size, Norwood is not. As life may have it Norwood was blessed with great ability, but he also was born with very thin legs, very thin legged RBs have very little chance in the NFL, which is why Norwood is constantly on IR. Even if the injury report doesn’t specifically mention him as having a leg injury, most of his injuries and ability to stay on the field relate to that. Maybe he goes to a better team and is properly utilized, especially to avoid injury, but Murlarkey is going to be here at least another season, if he departs after that so be it, but you don’t know what you get in return, but what you do know now is that Norwood has value, you can’t say that a year from now, you can’t say that under a different coach. You can’t say the same for a rookie, but what you do know is that you have more time with a rookie as opposed to a Vet RB that has a few years of experience. You don’t wait unitl the well is dry to refill it, meaning you don’t wait until you suck the life out of a player to try to get something for him, you can see a player that has value, not from where your team is now and where it plans to be in the future, but according to whats best for your team now as well as into the future.

Dan

February 24th, 2010
12:44 pm

All I know is my lower level Season Tickets went from $115 to $130 and if they are collecting this extra money I sure would be dissapointed if they are not going to use it and with Vick money coming off the books. I say go after Bolden or Dunta since they are still young at 28 and both are now listed as unrestricted with Houston anouncing today no tag. Draft Dunlap, Spoon,Brian Bulaga or Jermaine Gresham

Ken Strickland

February 24th, 2010
1:00 pm

We have to keep in mind that when TD and Smitty first came on board, the consensus was we desperately needed a DT, and we used our #1 pick on a QB. If TD and Smitty think they can get what they want at OLB, DE, WR, RB, and TE in the later rounds, we might see them go with OL, especially if they don’t resign Clabo and/or Dahl, and if they feel OT’s GReynolds and WStivek aren’t ready to takeover.

As far as LT SBaker is concerned, I don’t think ability is his issue, but rather his ability to stay healthy. Remember, the entire R-side of our OL suffered season ending injuries last yr, so moving him to RT won’t automatically solve his injury issues, as some seem to think.

I find it hard to believe we won’t go DEF with our 1st pick. If we lose one of our starting DE’s or OLB’s for the season, who will replace them? With CDavis, LSidbury, and even JAnderson, we wouldn’t be that bad off at DE. But with CWire and inexperienced and unproven backups SAdkins, RJames as the our options, we would be in serious trouble if on of our starting OLB’s went down for the season.

Wabe

February 24th, 2010
2:35 pm

I’m honestly not so hot about any of the names listed in your article D3. All of them seem past their prime, but if I were to take a chance on one of them, it’d probably be Peppers because I still think he has a couple of solid years left in him. But, even with that, would he be willing to take a paycut to come here? Because I wouldn’t be willing to pay him big bucks after coming off a season like the last one. I think John Clayton from ESPN said that the Pats and Eagles were a couple of teams that were interested in Peppers, so it’s obvious that good teams are interested in the vet DE. But, should the Falcons be one of those teams?

I say no.

If we’re to pick up a DE, let it be through the draft. I’m comfortable with Sid/Biermann/Abraham and a player through the draft taking on the tasks of coming off the ends. Graham’s name has been mentioned a lot, and Kiper/Todd McShay seem to be high on that kid. They see him as a sleeper who could be a potential star in the NFL. His versatile makeup would allow us to do some different thing with him. He could lineup out of 4-3 at end and rush the passer but could also play as an edge rusher in a 3-4. I really wouldn’t mind getting a guy like that and have him develop with the likes of Biermann/Sidbury. Those 3 with Abraham would shore that DE spot up.

Coop

February 24th, 2010
3:16 pm

D3 – More great work. thanks for the blog. I’m satisfied with the DEs we have. I don’t think we should go after one in FA or in the draft. I think our pressure issues are due to DTs. I hope Jerry is the answer, but I still think we drafted the wrong body-type. We’ll see, but drafting another DE doesn’t fix us up the middle, so he’ll juts get doubled or the middle will open and the QB will scramble up the gut like last year.

On another note, I have seen “trade Norwood to Philly for a 3rd” discussion. In theory, I love the idea of trying to move up to #2 and Suh. However, I see two major flaws with the scenario.

1. No way Norwood gets us a 3rd from any team in their right minds. Norwood might get us a 5th. No reasonable team would look at Norwood and think he is better than a RB they could draft in the 3rd. He’d also likely be more expensive, and he has injury issues. Most teams aren’t dumb, if we don’t want a “speed” back we have because we’re going to use a 3rd or 4th to draft a better one, why wouldn’t they do the same. So, if we do con someone into giving up a 3rd for Norwood, we should giggle all the way to the draft.

2. I also don’t agree anyway the Lions give up the #2 overall for our 1st and a 3rd. Maybe for our 1st and both 3rds. But they give up the shot at an elite player (that they need by the way) for 17 to 18 slots lower in the draft and a late 3rd. Again, if we could swing that, we should do it now with our current picks.

WR – I’m not trying to pick on you. I love playing the GM, but I just don’t think either of those trades are reasonable. If we could pull that off, we should do it and do it now.

DC Dirty Bird

February 24th, 2010
3:40 pm

Dan, I like the direction you’re going. I like the idea of getting Weatherspoon at 19 and then looking for a TE (Gronkowski or Pitta) in the third. It shouldn’t take too much convincing for Dunta to come home and play for the Falcons. Once we close the book on our CB issue, we can focus on our pass rush. I’m not sure Carlos Dunlap is the answer at DE though. His build reminds me of Jamaal Anderson. At his height, his upper body strenth will be the key to beating good tackles. To me, he looks a little weak up top like Jamaal. I like Everson Griffen a little more than Dunlap. Hopefully we can add some fire power to the offense with some of the later round picks.

WR

February 24th, 2010
6:35 pm

Coop, no problem, didn’t say it would be possible, but the draft has taught me that its not impossible. Norwood has injury history but at the same time he has value for some teams, especially ones that feel they could properly utilize him. The Eagles will have a second year back taking over the starting role, more then likely they wouldn’t want to add a rookie to be his backup or a change of pace. Those the possibility seem like a long shot, yes, but thats what makes the great GMs great, they pull off deals leaving others wondering how, just ask around about how NE was able to steal so many picks last year, they practically were robbing people in broad daylight.

Now as for Detroit, 1st and a third also seems like a long shot, but your Detroit your looking to gain picks because your team is not a player or two away from being in any kind of contention. Now you trade the number 2, you save salary cap money, you pick up a first in a third. Alright your sitting in the 20 spot, someone just slipped to that spot and the Jets desparately want to move up to get him, you trade back again, for the Jets first and there second because its so late in the round. Now you have a late first round pick, at least 2 second rounds, at least 2 third rounds. Defensively the Lions are hurting and considering the depth in this draft on defense imagine how much they can gain with 5 picks in the first three rounds. On the flip side, they take one of the two best DTs with the second pick, is his value better for a team full of holes, then say taking late first round DE, a good early second round DT, second round CB, and third round WR, third round OL. When you have a number of holes a early pick in the draft doesn’t mean as much, thats one of the reasons teams trade back. All of this doesn’t mean much, just a some thoughts at playing GM, you might want more, but if there’s not a better offer, you take the best offer, especially if it helps your team.

SeminoleWarrior

February 24th, 2010
8:04 pm

What’s happening Cage Fam..

Sustain the Process.

SeminoleWarrior

February 24th, 2010
8:09 pm

Stay away from Carlos Dunlap…the mental makeup off the field would be a BIG issue in the ATL.

Spoon or Jermaine Gresham. Two outstanding players at positions of critical need THIS season and next.

SeminoleWarrior

February 24th, 2010
8:11 pm

Looks like Wilfork and Seymour are off the market officially now. As far as Wilfork was concerned, it was a sweet dream for me while it lasted. Oh well…moving on.

SeminoleWarrior

February 24th, 2010
8:18 pm

Gresham would not need to start immediately with Gonzo already in place for this season. He could continue his rehab, working slowly into two TE packages by mid season. He could learn the habits of the best in the game and be ready to step in as a starter in 2011 (if we have football).

Of course, that would mean we did not get Spoon. Not going to happen but you must have a backup plan just in case.

UnCa Bob..Semper Fi. We are on the same page totally I see.

JJ

February 24th, 2010
8:19 pm

SW, Does Mrs. Panther know of these man crushes sw? lol I’ve been eavesdropping all over the web and roughly 65% are for WLB. Kinda has me worried, but as I always say: The stats dont lie! Did you see UB made a quick apperrance and now BT is gone.

SeminoleWarrior

February 24th, 2010
8:22 pm

JJ, the Queen Kitten knows my deep passion for the game. And she knows how bad I want this Super Bowl title for my Falcons. She is too busy mourning the potential loss of Peppers….

JJ

February 24th, 2010
8:23 pm

Doc, appearance-so sorry! Think thats right, if not, I dont give a damn!

SeminoleWarrior

February 24th, 2010
8:24 pm

The consensus is moving in that direction, JJ. Spoon is the optimum choice but I see that Kindle and the kid from Penn State are also being mentioned more and more often.

The choice, IMHO, is clear. My mind was made up last season and I will not change my tune…..SPOON, SPOON, SPOON.

JJ

February 24th, 2010
8:24 pm

2 yrs my friend, 2 yrs-I predict 2012/13 for atl parade!!!

JJ

February 24th, 2010
8:26 pm

kindle- 3/4, if anything gratham can play DE or WLB, but Rocky and I have our seats on the Spoon train!!!

JJ

February 24th, 2010
8:27 pm

P’tree parade!!!

SeminoleWarrior

February 24th, 2010
8:29 pm

JJ, I’m down for that 2012 AND 2013 parade….back to back?

JJ

February 24th, 2010
8:29 pm

Great dog story on olympics!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

DDawgDavis

February 25th, 2010
9:09 am

Please do not reference Mel Kiper or Todd McShay or Mike Mayock as credible sources. They are for entertainment only.

DE? If you can’t get Peppers and I am sorry I am a season ticket holder that says bring him on (oh I dropped the season ticket holder card, since the Fulton Co Stadium days….bow down!) draft Dunlap. Hell, sign Peppers and draft Dunlap.

Peppers will want revenge against the Panthers, we play them twice. He eats QBs in the NFC south for breakfest, we play them twice. So, that’s six games we can expect him to help and dominate. Money well spent to me. Dunlap, Bierman, Sidbury would be a great future rotation!

Lastly, draft Myron Rolle in the later rounds. It’ll be nice to have a guy in the secondary with a cool nickname……..Dr. Death, Dr. Knock yer head off,

It’s a slow morning for me.