Redemption in St. Louis: Defensive Analysis vs Rams

Big Improvement from Detroit 

Much Better Performance (Chris Lee/ St.Louis Post-Dispatch)

Much Better Performance (Chris Lee/ St.Louis Post-Dispatch)

Many of our fears as Falcons fans were put to rest, or at least calmed a little, after the defense came out with sense of urgency and ferocity that seemed to be missing in the first contest against the Lions. Granted the Rams were without their starting QB Marc Bulger, Steven Jackson only played three series, and Donnie Avery didn’t suit up, but the defense did come out played with much more of an intensity and striking tendency than in Detroit. After a 9 yard run by Jackson on the first play, the defense settled down and proved they could rise up and defend the run better than preseason week 1. The starters looked good and flew around the ball much better and seemed to work out the kinks and rust from their first performance. A look at the positions:

Defensive Tackle
Babineaux and Trey Lewis started at defensive tackle and both did very well against the run, holding one of the best backs in the game to 10 yards on 3 carries, although Jackson left quickly after those 3 carries. The defensive tackles were effective in getting some pressure on Kyle Boller and forcing some errant throws and thus forcing the Rams to work out of 2nd & 3rd and longs. Big Trey Lewis went a long way towards proving he deserves a big shot to start week one against the Dolphins. Lewis led all DTs with 4 tackles in the game and providing the nice big body to complement the pass rushing Babineaux. Babineaux also looked quick in penetration and coming away with 2 tackles and several pressures as well. Thomas Johnson continues to make a stamp on a roster spot by collaring two tackles as well. Peria Jerry continues to seemingly struggle with the adjustment to the pro game. Luckily he won’t be counted on immediately and can work his way in while learning the ropes. Even though not making any tackles, Vance Walker also keeps his solid preseason performance going to make the team as 7th round draft pick. At this point it seems difficult to imagine the Falcons not carrying 5 defensive tackles for on the 53 man protected roster. Will Trey Lewis start opposite Babineaux week 1? Does Peria Jerry’s slow adjustment to the NFL concern you? Will Thomas Johnson, Vance Walker, or both make the final roster?

Defensive Ends

Sidbury With a Great Game (CCompton/ AJC)

Sidbury With a Great Game (CCompton/ AJC)

The great surprise of the game was of course Lawrence Sidbury Jr., whom many considered an absolute steal when Dimitroff took him in the fourth round of this year’s draft. He certainly validated those opinions by notching two sacks in fairly limited playing time against the Rams on Friday night. It was a pretty safe assumption that Sidbury would see playing time this year, but he did a nice job cementing that fact. Kroy Biermann had a team high 5 tackles and nice pressure as well. Chauncey Davis didn’t look overly outstanding in Jamaal Anderson’s place, but he did collar two tackles. Even though coaches have their own assessments and judgments, fans seem to be quickly losing patience with Anderson and the lack of production. Yes it is only preseason, but last year’s rookie Biermann managed two sacks as a backup in a season and Sidbury pulled down two in one game. How many chances does a player get to prove himself? Abraham didn’t do much, but we all know his capability. What’s your opinion of Jamaal Anderson: more time or time to move on? How much will/should Sidbury Jr. play? Should Biermann be in competition for a starting spot?

Linebackers
After a disorganized and less than stellar performance in Detroit, the linebackers looked much better against the Rams in St. Louis. After getting outrun by Daunte Culpepper in week 1, Mike Peterson showed up with his shoes on fire running around the field and striking the ball carrier with a ferocity many fans expected when we signed him many months ago. Peterson erased any doubts on whether he still has some serious gas left in the tank. Curtis Lofton shook off some seeming rust from the first week, possibly from missing time in training camp. Lofton finished with 3 overall tackles and showed the quickness and power we came to expect from him last year. Stephen Nicholas didn’t have a standout night, but showed an improved skill set of pass drops and mobility. Gilbert continued his steady play by collaring 3 tackles and all but assuring himself of a roster spot. Coy Wire either didn’t suit up or didn’t register any stats. Assuming Wire and Gilbert make the squad after the starters, the last spot is anyone’s guess. Robert James certainly helped himself on that front by collaring 2 solo tackles and one assist. Spencer Adkins has been unable to establish a great reason for the coaches to take a project on the roster. No correlation, but last year’s 6th round draft pick Wilrey Fontenot was cut from the team. No shocking news of Edmond Miles release with Gilbert’s strong play. What was your opinions of the LB corps on against the Rams? Does Peterson have enough gas left? How’s Nicholas looked so far to you? Who makes up the backup LB spot?

Cornerbacks
Unless he falls flat in the last two preseason games, Brent Grimes has all but wrapped up the starting cornerback position vacated by Dominique Foxworth. Well, let’s technically set the record straight: Grimes has reclaimed what was rightfully his before he got injured last season. Even though he may have issues with taller receivers, Grimes has shown his amazing athletic ability by making plays his frame wouldn’t normally dictate. Grimes had two great breaks on passes that should have been intercepted, but excellent plays nonetheless. Chris Owens is also making it very difficult to easily pick the starting corners. He has shown an uncanny nose for the football and a physical nature that Smith, Van Gorder, and Dimitroff covet. Chevis Jackson chipped in with 3 tackles and looks promising to continue his role at least in the nickel, where he shined last year. William Middleton hasn’t lit up the defense, but likely will make the roster as a future player and project. A report that Von Hutchins injury is still plaguing him may mean the end of his tenure as a Falcon, regardless of all the promise that accompanied his free agent signing a year ago. If the coaches decided to keep 5 CB’s on the roster, as they did last year, a combination of Houston, Grimes, Owens, Jackson, and Middleton may make it. Glen Sharpe and Tony Tiller continue to seem longshots at this point, maybe candidates for the practice squad. Keeping an extra CB on the practice squad is likely a good idea.  Is Grimes a lock to start in Foxworth’s old spot?  How much or how soon should Owens play? Chevis Jackson destined for the nickel? Has Von Hutchins time in red and black run out? How many CBs should we carry on our roster?

Safeties
Thomas DeCoud looks to be settling into his new role at free safety with a good transition. His long range and quickness figures to play to his strengths as defensive back. DeCoud ended the game with 3 solo tackles and seems to be forming a nice chemistry with Erik Coleman, who’s moved to strong safety. News of William Moore returning to the practice field today delights many fans who have long waited to see the Missouri product in action. If the coaching staff goes with 5 safeties on the roster, as they did last year, the battle for the two backup spots is one of the most intense of the what remains of training camp. After a subpar showing in Detroit, Eric Brock rebounded nicely with 3 solo tackles and a game winning interception to seal the deal. Jamaal Fudge had a great night with 5 solo tackles and 1 assist on the night, and Antoine Harris had a better night in the secondary with 3 tackles. The battle for the last two spots look to boil down to Brock, Harris, and Fudge. Brock has no more practice squad eligibility left, so that may influence the decisions. How’s the safeties looking so far overall? Happy with the Coleman/DeCoud switch? Can Moore work himself into a rotation with limited time left in camp? Who would you keep between Brock, Harris, and/or Fudge?

Alright Bird Cagers, let’s hear it about all things Falcons Defense both against the Rams, and overall as we head into our big match-up against the vaunted Chargers offense?

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146 comments Add your comment

downsouthdirtybird

August 25th, 2009
11:16 pm

Ravi

August 25th, 2009
11:55 pm

DT – I think all 5 DTs bring something different to the equation. Hopefully T. Johnson and Walker are both on the final roster. Trey Lewis looks to be the rock in the middle with the 3 techs and DEs flying around him, making plays. The surprise of the preseason has been watching him hustle downfield.

DE – Jaamal has shown that he’s solid against the run and can help collapse the pocket, but nothing special. With Abraham + Sidbury, Bierman, Davis, the Falcons might be able to generate a Giants-like pass rush.

LB – The depth past Winborn, Wire, Gilbert seems a little suspect. Robert James will probably not get a chance to live up to his nickname (at least not in a Falcons uniform). Adkins on the practice squad.

CB – Houston, Grimes are the starters, Jackson’s the nickel. Owens gets subbed in as much as possible. Middleton gets to play a lot of special teams. If Von Hutchins.stays, its as a hybrid S, CB.

Safety – I think Fudge stays since he’s a run stuffer, which the defense currently lacks. That leaves Harris and Brock fighting for the last spot.

Smith and Dimitroff obviously have some tough choices to make. Its great that there are more than 53 NFL players on this roster, but I’d hate to lose a player like Thomas Johnson.

ATLJBO

August 26th, 2009
1:17 am

Jamaal Anderson played pretty good against the Rams

Ed-Covington

August 26th, 2009
1:29 am

Ravi:

Agree with everything you said. I have no way of taping the games, so I don’t know how the subs are looking on special teams. That may determine whether they make the team or not.
For instance, Jamal Anderson (who played with the #2 defense last week, BTW)is being outplayed by Davis, Bierman and Sidbury. But if he doesn’t start, he’ll need to play on ST. Can he do it? Even though he can play some DT, is he a better DT than Jerry, Johnson, Lewis or Walker. (I don’t mention Abe or Babs here since their starting and STARRING are a given!) JA looked miserable against a rookie OT (though the #2 draftee) last week. Maybe someone sees something on tape I don’t notice in the live games, but JA seems to be only a serviceable DL at best. Blieve me, sice we already have him we would all love to see him break out and become a dominant force; but the only way he stays is if the Birds keep 10 DLs. The only option would be to put Walker on the PSquad, and I would hate to see that happen after he’s had such favorable performances.
GO BIRDS!!

Ed-Covington

August 26th, 2009
1:39 am

GO BIRDS!!

Ravi: Agreed.

Ed-Covington

August 26th, 2009
1:43 am

JA was playing with the #2 defense against the Rams #2 offense, though the rookie #2 draft choice OT from Baylor was still in. He is still being out-played by Davis, Sidbury and Bierman. (we all know about Abe!)
GO BIRDS!!

Ed-Covington

August 26th, 2009
1:49 am

Still think that Brock, Fudge & Harris (& the CBs) missed too many tackles against the Rams. Love Grimes’ effort, but he looks like an All-Pro one play and lost the next. IMHO Owens and Middleton have bright futures with the Birds, I just don’t know if this is the year for them to start; they both seem awfully raw. Look forward to seeing Hutchins & Moore in game situations. VH had a good rep while with the Texans. GO BIRDS!!

Ed-Covington

August 26th, 2009
1:51 am

Can’t tape the games, so those of you that can have an advantage on me. How the subs play on special teams may determine whether they stay on the team or not. You really have to see game tape to judge ST play. Can JA play ST? GO BIRDS!!

Ed-Covington

August 26th, 2009
1:52 am

Good Night; & GO BIRDS!!

Ed

August 26th, 2009
2:12 am

D3 you must be burning the candle at both ends to keep bringing it so strong every time out. Great work as alway…

My biggest concern out all the possibilities you offered is Peria Jerry. Here’s hoping he brings it against the Chargers but he may be slower to develop than what is normally expected of a 1st round pick. His size and strength, which was enough in college, may need to increased befoe he can establish himself at DT in the big boys league.

Alex H.

August 26th, 2009
6:03 am

Being a Tech fan, I hope Vance Walker makes the team, or at least the practice squad. Peria Jerry should get much better with more action. Sidbury and Owens appear to be excellent draft picks. It will be interesting to see how the D performs against the Bolts this weekend. Go Falcons!

nhe

August 26th, 2009
7:54 am

Where’s the Biermann love? The guy is all over the field making tackles, and gets good push on the pass rush – especially for his size.

I’d like to see him start – he has certainly outplayed every DE this side of Abraham………and since the middle of last season IMO.

BIRDMAN

August 26th, 2009
8:26 am

Great blog once again D3 . I say give JA one more chance this week to try and prove himself and this time if he don’t show some improvment ,then boot his butt out and give Sidbury the spot.To much time with this guy and his dead weight.Its time to move on and I liked what I saw with Sidbury .Maybe we can still trade him for somebody who might help the team.
I like Grimes for CB he has the drive and grit that you want to see in an NFL player.He may be small but as long as he performs that don’t matter.Peria Jerry will come around and start to play better with the big boys he just needs a little more playing time I think.
Anyway thats what I think, for what its worth,.Also I know this s about the D but if Shockley still gona have probs like his had in the past ,and I love the former dawg its just its time to move on there also .Maybe the two of them together could get us someone good in a trade.Don’t hate me I m just thinkin bout the team.

KEE ..IT..COMEIN …GUY’S..&…GAL’S !!

GOD…BLESS

BIRDMAN

August 26th, 2009
8:34 am

Thats trade JA not Sidbury.Sorry bout the miss print

GOOOO…………FALCONS…….!!!

FalconFaninMI

August 26th, 2009
8:47 am

I’m in the process of moving so I didn’t get to see the replay until yesterday. I thought Grimes looked a bit shaky – like a guy who will make a great play and then immediately follow it up by getting torched for a big gain. He seemed to be in the middle of every play so he must have great instincts, plus he’s clearly very athletic, but it seems like big receivers are going to be able to have their way with him.

Biermann made a big impression – seemed like he was everywhere on defense. Overall I thought the whole D-line did a good job of pressuring the QB all night long. I feel a little better about the pass rush (or could it be that the Rams just have an awful offensive line?).

Oh, and I know this is a defensive blog post but I’ve been out of the loop so I have to say it: DJ Shockley looked awful. Isn’t he going into his 4th season? Even considering that he lost a year due to a knee injury he should look significantly better than a rookie QB at this point in his career, but he doesn’t.

ddawgdavis

August 26th, 2009
8:53 am

Biermann is a great underrated talent for what he does. Another great “steal” for TD and Co. I love Sidbury and what he will become for us, but it’s great to have Biermann on the roster from here on out. Not only does his last name represent a great nickname, but he’s all over the line. Kind of reminds me of a young Brookings (suck it Tech), when he actually MADE a tackle and not add to the pile. Using the media/chic terms of great motor and determination is one way to describe him. I like to describe him as a student of Abraham, you can see Beer-man (wooo) learning and watching after each play.

Anderson? Bust? maybe, but if we can salvage him and use him in other roles (DT) maybe not. There just doesn’t seem to be any drive. I can see that from my 20 yd lower level seat and at home on my couch. Watched him as a Razorback and there was drive/motor (suck it media) on each play, but that never came to the NFL..

Really think the Falcons are going to duplicate last season’s winning against the hardest schedule.

Proud to be an Atlanta Falcon fan.

tbhawksfan

August 26th, 2009
8:59 am

No need to trade JA. He’s the DE with the best potential at DT. Plus we can’t get much for him. I see the DE position as a battle between: Sid, JA, Davis and Biermann. The only reason JA is there’s because he’s the incumbant and high pick. It’ll be interesting to see who starts there first game. Looks like this DE position is the hottest position battle.

Coach Smith and TD like interchangeable guys and they like to play a lot of guys.

DE: Abraham, JA, Davis, Sid, Biermann

DT: Babs, Lewis, Jerry, Johnson, Walker

birdfan1911

August 26th, 2009
9:05 am

We seem to have problems drafting players to go on that defensive line. Jamal Anderson is a bust and he has decided to take the monuey and run! I knew that pick would come back to hurt the falcons when they drafted him. They should have drafted the 19 year old DT from Louisville, I forgot his name. Jerry is lazy and he does not have any hunger to want to be the best at his position. Everytime he does something right, the coaches have to force it out of him. This guy and Jamal will be gone after this year. I say for insurance, pick up a defensive lineman off waivers.

CBrass

August 26th, 2009
9:17 am

nhe,

I agree. Biermann was everywhere!!! As for JAnderson…I know I said that I would wait until this blog to put my foot up his a$$ but I’m not going to waste me time. Yes he was in the backfield all of two times but came up with nothing. Once he couldn’t make the tackle he all but stopped and damn near starting walking down the field. Maybe I’m wrong but it’s what I saw. If he couldn’t get in the back field he could of at least act like he was making an attempt to run down field. I’ve seen countless other D lineman roaming the field these last two games to make tackles. The commentators for the game even pointed it out.
I hope Sid the Kid keeps up the good work. He’s going to be something special and learning from Abe is only going to help. The same goes for my man Biermann. Both are making strides to become major headache for opposing QB’s.

BIRDMAN

August 26th, 2009
9:36 am

CBrass good mornin
I agree .Thanks for the read.You said it well .ddawgd I think we have the 4th hardest schedule but I’m with you I see a winning season also comein this year.

KEEP…IT…COMEIN..!!

SPS

August 26th, 2009
9:37 am

birdfan1911, I’m working in Houston and I listen to the sports talk radio there. The consensus is that Amobi Akoye has been a bust for the Texans. So drafting him instead of JA98 probably would not have been an upgrade for the Falcons either. Guess we should have traded the pick, and used the money to resign Patrick Kerney instead.

long time falcon

August 26th, 2009
9:37 am

Like I said all along trey lewis is the man in the middle. At 6′3″ and 325lbs he is much bigger and stronger than the other DT’s and the only true NT we have on the roster. Look around the league at all the great defenses and they almost always have that big nose. Last season tennesse had haynesworth, baltimore haloti ngata, pittsburg hampton. All had great defenses and it starts with the big man in the middle. Trey had a very solid rookie season and once he really works himself back into the flow of the game he is going be an integral part of our defense. It looks like this season will be a learning process for jerry and he might not have much of an impact. Right now I see 5 DT’s making the roster with jefferson being the odd man out.

As far as the DE end position opposite abraham, if the truth be told it should be biermann and sidbury sharing the bulk of playing time. Biermann has really impressed me playing the run and with his all around hustle. And Sid The Kid looks to have a bright future as a pash rushing DE. HELL NO JA98 does not deserve anymore time to prove he can hold down the position. TIME IS UP! TIME FOR PLAN B or C! Right now plan B is Davis but if he doesn’t pick it up himself then we move to plan C which is the combo of biermann and sidbury. I’m finished with number 98.

Right now grimes deserves to start at corner but look out for Owens to push for one of the corner spots as the season progresses. I love grimes grit and determination but honestly I just see him as a stop gap type guy until we get where we want to be at that position. Grimes seems to have great hands in training camp but can never pull down the int in the real games. His advantages seems to be an impressive athlectic ability and he has a knack for breaking on the ball but he must capitalize and get some turnovers. Because at some point in the game he is going to give up some plays but if he can force some turnovers, that would go a long ways toward neutralizing some of his deficiencies. Lets be real, bigger stronger receivers are going to give him some trouble so if he can force some turnovers it will make a difference in close games.

CBrass

August 26th, 2009
9:52 am

Birdman,

Morning. Hope you’re having a good day so far!!!

nhe

August 26th, 2009
9:57 am

RE: JA98………….come on folks, have you seen that body lately?, it doesn’t look like he’s ever found the weight room at Flowery Branch. He’s not physical enough for DE, and he’s not strong enough or quick enough off the ball for DL. He’s a first class bust.

If anything, being a former WR, he should hook up with another team and re-invent himself as a TE. I’m dead serious.

BlackTalon

August 26th, 2009
10:21 am

D3- Good job as usual.

Long time Falcon is dead on with his post @ 9:37

Good morning to all.

JWW

August 26th, 2009
10:48 am

D3, the master of debate!

JA98 must just be one of those “gentle giants” who just cannot manufacture the fire to play consistently on an NFL field. He must know by now that his standing is shaky at best with the team. At this point I am interested how differently teammates interact with Jamal. Are their tones more subdued like they don’t want to over emphasize the point of, to use a Dimitroff term, the “urgency” of his situation, or is it more inspirational when his teammates speak to him in a one-on-one basis. Regardless, Anderson’s days are indeed numbered, and that number is shrinking. He won’t go on the first cut, but if he doesn’t at least cast a shadow in the Charger’s game, TD and Smitty may just show him the highway.

I think Kroy’s time has come and I think Smitty thinks so too. We have all seen his motor for the past two years and I have yet to see him take one play off. When I saw him pursuing a running back off of a screen pass and catching him from behind, I thought he reminded me a bit of David Pollack. You remember, the guy who just wouldn’t give up on ANY play. And as far as HipHip goes, sit the man down and start shoveling flap jacks and get Jerry up to around 315, and he will be the plug in the middle we all want. He will be fine, he just green and a little light.

I am thrilled with the progression of L Sid and the fact that Abe is giving him knowledge is great. I can see L Sid making an impact right away.

The linebacker position is a little hard to gauge right now and I am taking that as a good thing, like they are playing as a unit and controlling the flow. It is the same with the safeties. I think they are a solid unit but only time will tell. I would keep Brock and Harris and move Fudge to the P squad. It seems that ever since Fudgy got that big hit in the Friday night high school scrimmage he hasn’t been the same.

I have to agree with D3 and others that this may be the bell tolling for Von Hutchins. Sometimes injuries will not let you come back. On another note, I know when a cornerback drops a ball when it hits him in his hands they say “That’s why he’s not a wide receiver, ha ha!” But as that ex-wide receiver with the keen fashion sense, Keyshawn Johnson, likes to say, “C’MON MAN!”

Somebody buy Grimes some stick-um and he’ll make the Pro Bowl! I know it’s illegal, but at least some diving gloves could do the trick.

Falcon Devil

August 26th, 2009
11:07 am

LTFF – In regards to Grimes, pre-season is glorified practice, not a real game. I think that the conclusion he cannot make plays in a real game needs to wait till regular season if he is doing it in practice.

As for JA 98, I think alot of people are too hung up on the his draft position. He was drafted before TD so sunk costs are what they are. As in business you can’t dwell on sunk costs when attempting to maximize profit in the future by making the best decisions today. Sidbury and Abraham are 100% our pass situation ends. On obvious run downs a healthy rotation of JA 98, Bierman and Davis with time split evenly in REAL games will give us the best idea of who has the best future with the Falcons. Let the plays speak for themselves come REAL gametime. JA 98 can also be thrown in with Babs or Jerry at DT on pass situations as well. The kid is only 23. His best days are still far on the horizon but this season will be the true measure of his potential. Everyone just take a deep breathe we have so much great young talent at DE with one of the leagues best Vets leading I’m confident our 4 man front will consistently generate moderate to good pressure. Throw in a blitz and our secondary will generate some turnovers.

Nicholas hasnt shown me what everyone seems to be so high on him for but Miami will be the real coming out party hopefully.

nhe

August 26th, 2009
11:46 am

Falcon Devil, dude, every play JA98 is on the field is a play when 5 players better (DL and DE) are standing on the sidelines. We can’t afford to put him out there anymore.

Do you realize that in addition to giving us zero pass rush that he has averaged less than 2 tackles a game the past two seasons? We’ll hopefully keep the other 4 DEs and 5 DLs, and put another DE on the practice squad (not named JA98). I will be extremely disappointed if JA98 makes the 53 man roster.

Ken Strickland

August 26th, 2009
11:59 am

I don’t think JAnderson lacks fire or desire. He’s just a big, strong player who’s skill level is best suited to play in a 3-4 DEF rather than a 4-3 DEF. That was part of the problem last yr with DT GJacksno. He’s a much better fit as a 3-4 nose tackle than a 4-3 DT. That’s why we got limited production from the left side of our DL. However, I don’t think he’ll be released because he’s our best DEF against the run, and teams are definitely going to test us in that area since last yrs run DEF was so poor.

We have the talent to become a solid Superbowl calibur DEF. When we reach that level will depend on how long it takes to establish the needed chemistry.

At this point, I think the starting DEF lineup is set. I believe TLewis and JBabineaux will start, with PJerry, TJohnson and VWalker as the backups. I don’t think COwens will replace CHouston at this point, but it could very well happen at some time during the season, especially if Houston doesn’t play with enough aggression. Another issue to consider is BGrimes’ ability to hold up physically for an entire season. COwens might end up replacing him instead of CHouston.

Our overall SS play last yr was a major weakness. But this yr, the safety position will be a major strength. The same will hold true at OLB, although we won’t be as deep as we’ll be at safety.

Dawson Devitt (D3)

August 26th, 2009
12:01 pm

Great Mid-Week Day Wednesday Fellow Cagers! Got some great convo’s going on about out defense, which many of us were very happy to see. Likely get a better look this Saturday.

Ravi – Great analysis on roster spots. Looks you might be a favorite for our upcoming roster spot competition coming next week.

ATLJBO – I think a lot fans think he should be playing better than pretty good, but the coaches don’t seem to be losing any faith, at least not publicly.

Ed-Covington – Agreed on JA. I think even many supporters of JA#98 have started to lose a little faith. Like TBrown, Hutchins has got to show that he can stay healthy, and if he does than maybe he takes a S/CB spot and leaves only one spot between Harris, Brock, and Fudge.

Ed – Thanks for the props my man. It’s a little easier now that I post every other day, but I still find myself rambling late into the night. Agreed on Jerry. It would be one thing if he was 21, 22, or 23 but Jerry is exceptionally old for a first round draft pick at 25. Luckily, he will be working with one of the best in Sugar Bear Hamilton.

Alex H. – After the camp he’s had and building with youth idea, I would be shocked if Vance Walker doesn’t make it.

nhe – Biermann has developed into a starting caliber defensive end I believe. He should be in the running with CDavis and JA#98 in my opinion, but we’ll see.

BIRDMAN – Nice points and thanks for the complements. JA#98 has had plenty of time to register more than 2 sacks. Its starting to look like his time may be limited in red and black. I could see maybe a trade for a 3rd rounder possibly.

More later guys and gals……..

BIRDMAN

August 26th, 2009
12:02 pm

CBrass the day is good after all its what you make of it.Back at ya and hope yours is good also.
D3 I don’t know if I’d call it redemption more like what we should expect.I know they they kinda mean the same but I guess its how you look at it. I think this week we will see a more harder aponate than these two teams .I just guess we all expected more from the team on the fist game .I know that its pre season but how our O looked on th rams game those first 2 drives is what we should see with our guys against the rams.I still think we can win 10 are more tho this season.I think we will beat the charger’s and do a lot better on the D this week after all a dog always fights better in his own yard.

KEEP …IT..COMEIN ..AND..GOD …BLESS

CBrass

August 26th, 2009
12:03 pm

Falcon Devil

I hear what you’re saying about JA but as someone stated about Shockley he is a professional player and is expected to make the necessary adjustment. It shouldn’t matter who he was drafted by or how my DCs he’s played under. After Shocks horrible performance last Saturday many of the people here is ready to ship him out and have pretty boy Wilson take over the number three spot. So what he’s only 23 but he’s coming into his THIRD year and to make matters worse he’s getting shown up by a rookie (Sid) and a sophomore (Beirmann) so in my opinion it’s time for him to put up or shut up. He’s getting paid the big buck to get the job done and he hasn’t really shown anything. It was being made public notice of how hard he worked in the off season but we didn’t hear a peep out of Smitty on his progression during camp and judging by his game performance there wasn’t much for Smitty to tell. Maybe I’m wrong for jumping on him during preseason and camp but honestly if he wasn’t drafted so high he would have been gone by now. I hope to God he proves me wrong and I will be the first to admit it if he does. I’m a wet nosed rookie learning the in’s and out’s of the game but when a third year vet is getting out hustled by a rookie and sophomore something is wrong.

Falcon Devil I hope you do not take that as me jumping all over you for supporting him but if time he show us something. Does anyone know why he changed positions in college?

Unca' Bob

August 26th, 2009
12:16 pm

Does anybody smell smoke??

JJ

August 26th, 2009
12:21 pm

Tony Stewart?

Unca' Bob

August 26th, 2009
12:28 pm

CBrass

August 26th, 2009
12:30 pm

Unca’ Bob!!

Unca' Bob

August 26th, 2009
12:32 pm

CBrass,

Don’t sugar coat it. Tell us how you really feel.

CBrass

August 26th, 2009
12:37 pm

Unca’ Bob,

LOL it all kinda come pouring out.

JWW

August 26th, 2009
12:38 pm

You are not wet nosed, CBrass, if you can differentiate hustle. And you are right.

This may help answer the position change question:

http://coehp.uark.edu/4990.htm

Unca' Bob

August 26th, 2009
12:44 pm

CBrass,

LOL it all kinda come pouring out. Are you talking about the smoke? I could just get an image of your keyboard bouncing up and down while you pounded that one out. Man that was good!!

Falcon Devil

August 26th, 2009
12:50 pm

I agree if JA 98 sucks this year cut him no doubt, but I am all for giving him a share of snaps this year to show what he has matured to. I completely agree its time to show what he’s got but I don’t agree with folks that think he should not be on our team this year. If he had been drafted in the 5th round no one would be so tough on him. I do understand he gets paid big $ for being selected in the first round and with that comes pressure. All I’m sayin is give him this season to speak for itself.

Ken Strick – you think Owens will take over for Houston? Therefore you believe Grimes is better than Houston? I couldn’t disagree more. Houston has had to face the number 1 recievers in the NFL for 2 seasons and has done great things and been burned badley during that time. Considering his age, lack of experience and the obscene lack of pass rush the past two years he has done more than hold his own. I see Houston and Owens as the starters game one of 2010.

CBrass

August 26th, 2009
1:09 pm

Unca’ Bob,

LOL no the keyboard wasn’t bouncing or smoking. I was actually pretty calm when I typed it.

BIRDMAN

August 26th, 2009
1:10 pm

1st round 2nd round 3rd round 4th round 5th round even 20th round.What matters is his perfomance.
Falcons are building and if can’t ride the bus then its time for him to get off.Thats what Smith are gang are pobably thinkin.

GO….BIRDS..!!!

CBrass

August 26th, 2009
1:31 pm

Falcon Devil,

I agree he should be cut this season but I’m sure if he doesn’t show something he may be cut next season. Someone who is being paid the kind of money he’s getting isn’t the type of player that’s only used to stop the run. He’s there to sack the QB first and foremost and if that doesn’t happen this season it may be his last in a Falcons uniform. That’s just my opinion. Birdman is right it doesn’t matter where he was drafted it’s time for him to perform.

tyler

August 26th, 2009
1:41 pm

Sidbury making two sacks is no accident, preseason or not. He will have playing time in the regular season, maybe just passing downs for now, but he will play. Anderson has never shown a spark in two years, it took Sidbury two games. Never gonna happen with Anderson.

I like Trey Lewis, hope he stays healthy. I am concerned with Jerry’s lack of production. When lineman have real talent, they seem to make plays early. They make mistakes, but they also show flashes. Sidbury has shown his flash, Jerry has not.

I will be excited to see Moore play, we can use the help. The secondary will struggle this year, but I still like Owens taking over for Grimes at some point. Next year we need to take a corner high in the draft.

ATLJBO

August 26th, 2009
1:51 pm

I agree D3…. With the #8th pick you would want a Mario Williams type out of your 6′6 285lbs DE……..
Jamaal Anderson has all the measurable and talent to be that type DE

Proday numbers
40 Yrd Dash: 4.75
20 Yrd Dash: 2.73
10 Yrd Dash: 1.59
225 Lb. Bench Reps: 22
Vertical Jump: 32 1/2
Broad Jump: 9′8″
20 Yrd Shuttle: 4.22
3-Cone Drill: 6.88

Coach Hamilton seems to think Jamaal Anderson will reach his potential

Anderson’s two sacks, coming in consecutive weeks at Philadelphia and Oakland, were only a glimpse of his potential, and Hamilton puts more stock in overall development.

“Jamaal still has a lot to learn, but to his credit, he works hard at what we ask him to do,” Hamilton said. “He’s come a ways, but he still has a lot left to accomplish.”

I’m just willing to give the guy one more year before i throw the bust tag on him.

BlackTalon

August 26th, 2009
1:56 pm

Working last season for the first time under Smith and his staff, Anderson had to basically relearn his position after a rookie year under Bobby Petrino, who resigned after just 13 games.

Hamilton, a respected line coach, taught him proper footwork, hand placement and body leverage. The Falcons also want to help him compensate for slower foot speed than Petrino and former GM Rick McKay envisioned when the drafted him after his junior season at Arkansas.

nhe

August 26th, 2009
2:05 pm

Soft is soft sports fans……….it really doesn’t matter who the coach is or how the regime has changed……..its just very hard to coach up “soft”.

I just can’t see us being able to assure JA98 enough snaps to justify keeping him. A 3rd year top 10 pick that is NOT starting usually moves on – that’s just the NFL. Nice guy, nice story about the deaf family………but lets please say “bye bye” to JA98.

BlackTalon

August 26th, 2009
2:11 pm

JA is just going to be part of 7 or 8 man D-line rotation, he will get some starts and sometimes he will not start.
It depends on matchups.

That`s according to Smitty.

nhe

August 26th, 2009
2:22 pm

hmmmmmm – an 8 man rotation would be Abe, Sid, Biermann, Davis at DE and Babs, Jerry, Johnson, Lewis at DL……….no room for JA98 unless we go to a 9 or 10 man rotation………….all 8 of those guys have GOT to be ahead of Anderson, or the coaches are watching different games than I am.