The Horror! Defensive Wrap vs Lions

Weak Start! Falcons-Lions Defensive Wrap

DEF made Brown Look Like Barry Sanders (Daniel Mears/ The Detroit News)

DEF made Brown Look Like Barry Sanders (Daniel Mears/ The Detroit News)

Only a Preseason Game, but…..
Ok, ok we all know that it’s just a preseason game, but the overall defensive was pretty atrocious across the board, except for a few solid performances by a couple of individual players. Although it was the second and third team defense gave up the points that led to the Lions trumping our Falcons, our first team defense looked sub-par at best and terrible at worst. All the worries Falcons fans had going into the season have been exacerbated and increased in one preseason game. The defensive line push was pretty anemic, our linebackers looked a touch slow and disoriented, and our defensive backfield allowed quarterbacks Daunte Culpepper, rookie Matthew Stafford, and Drew Stanton to methodically march down the field mostly at will. Another fact that added to the misery had to do with who the Lions had, or didn’t have, lining up last Saturday. Arguably their best player, Calvin Johnson, didn’t suit up, Culpepper hasn’t been in top form 2004, and they trotted a great number of rookies such as Aaron Brown and Derrick Williams, who looked like all-stars. That’s not even including the detail that Kerry Colbert had stone hands and dropped at least three passes that would’ve been solid gains.

Many Subs and Coaches Get Some Tape
It certainly was only one game and it doesn’t count in the long run. Coaches were looking to see how players would react in given situations and get live tape on them in order to make their appropriate judgments and critiques of the players. The defensive side of the ball saw tons of subs in the game and getting everyone in live game situational play. Remember, the Steelers didn’t win one single preseason game and went on to have the best record in the NFL, home-field advantage for the playoffs, and won the Super Bowl. The only issue is that our Falcons are a long, long ways away from the Steelers in the process, particularly on the defensive side of the ball. A look at positions:

Defensive Line
Although, the Falcons return 3 out of starters on the defensive line, there are questions marks all across the line including who will replace Big Grady’s large presence, depth issues, and the marked target on Jamaal Anderson’s position. Abraham had some good pressures, which ended up being some of the only good pushes on the first team defense. Fans know what Abraham can do, so there was no need for him to dominate. Babineaux had a solid but not great game, and the fans also know what he’s capable of next the Abraham on the left side. The announcers said that Peria Jerry was starting, but Thomas Johnson seemed to be in on most of the Lions first drive. Jerry was double-teamed much of the night and seemed to struggle many times throughout the night. Trey Lewis looked good in the small amount of action he saw, in particular showing great hustle and quickness tracking a running back all the way down the line across the other side of the field to make a solid tackle. Vance Walker and Jason Jefferson seemed to have a pretty average game, but nothing fantastic. The play of the night came when Thomas Johnson surged through the line on 3rd and short deep in the red zone to hold the Lions to a field goal. Johnson is going a long way on locking up a roster spot, whether we keep 4 or 5 defensive tackles on the roster. Culpepper, rookie Stafford, and Stanton had plenty of time to throw the ball around and drive down the field at will. What was your impression of the defensive tackles? Thomas Johnson a lock for a roster spot? Peria Jerry’s lack of performance concerning?

Jamaal Anderson certainly didn’t alleviate the fears and anxiety that many Falcons hold for him. Anderson looked a bit slow and seemed to lack the fire and edge that it takes to be a successful, head-hunting defensive end in the NFL. Anderson continued his reputation of always being a step or half-step behind on getting a sack or good pressure. Anderson didn’t seem to possess the fire of simply bull-rushing opposing tackles and using his natural skill set. One particular instance saw Anderson do a hop-skip and try to jump around an offensive lineman, when he could have easily run through the player, or at least tried. Chauncey Davis didn’t seem to do a whole lot better, but he didn’t get drafted number eight overall either. Kroy Biermann and Lawrence Sidbury seemed to get pretty decent penetration in limited time they saw on the field. Overall, the defensive line got no pass rush, continuing an issue the Falcons had a lot of problems with last year. Who would you rate the defensive ends in the game against the Lions? Is Anderson pushing your patience?

Linebackers

Star of the Night on D (Robin Buckson/ The Detroit News)

Star of the Night on D (Robin Buckson/ The Detroit News)

The linebacker were one of the bad spots on the field on Saturday. Mike Peterson looked particularly bad when he had a good read on a rushing Daunte Culpepper, but was burnt to the sidelines by the QB, who’s not exactly a spring chicken. Curtis Lofton looked lost at times, probably due to his missed practice time. Stephen Nicholas had some bright moments, but also had a few plays that resulted in poor reads at times. Coy Wire seemed to have a good night, getting good pressure on a few blitzes, but didn’t look particularly great in pass drops. Tony Gilbert of course stole the show with his beautiful interception return for a touchdown. Gilbert showed great reading ability and turned on the burners to get into the end zone. It will be shocking to see Gilbert not get a roster spot. Robert James didn’t impress too much and looking really bad on one play when rookie RB Aaron Brown juked him out of his ankles and made him look silly. Spencer Adkins didn’t stand out. Is Peterson the right fit at OLB, or is he past his prime? Should Gilbert get a chance at OLB?

Defensive Backfield

Good First Night (Julian H. Gonzalez/ Detroit Free Press)

Good First Night (Julian H. Gonzalez/ Detroit Free Press)

Chris Houston of course got hurt, which is never good for a preseason game. Fans will certainly monitor his health very closely as training camp progresses. Brent Grimes had a good night making several plays throughout the game that his size wouldn’t necessarily dictate. If he has the inside track for the starting spot, his performance continued his ascent. Chevis Jackson had an overall solid, but not great night. Chris Owens showed a ton of ability in his first preseason game as a rookie making several nice plays, and showing a great intensity and fierce style in run support. Owens should earn a lot of playing time this year based on first impressions. Tony Tiller and Glen Sharpe didn’t make the necessary plays to climb the steep mountain of earning a spot, at least not yet. Von Hutchins also had a pretty average performance as well. The defensive combo of DeCoud and Coleman showed a good chemistry, but looks to take some time to work out the kinks. Antoine Harris had a good night on special teams, but had a pretty horrid night at safety. The worst of the night came with Eric Brock, who had the unfortunate situation of getting burnt several times by rookie Aaron Brown, making him look like the next Barry Sanders running and catching. Culpepper, Stafford, and Stanton picked the secondary apart with seeming ease throughout the game. Based on your first impression, will Owens start at some point this year? Grimes a lock to start? Does the secondary overall concern you?

Doesn’t Count….Yet
So it was just a preseason game, and in the long run it doesn’t mean anything, but the overall defensive performance looked pretty bad, from the first team defense all the way through the 3rd team subs. Chris Owens showed us what Thomas Dimitroff saw when he took him in the third round, Tony Gilbert had a great performance, and Thomas Johnson had a fantastic game to continue his drive towards a roster spot. Jamaal Anderson’s seat got much hotter, Peterson needs to shake off the rust, the safeties got some work to do, and our first round draft pick needs to pick it up.

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Sarah B

August 18th, 2009
11:46 pm

HA!!!! Again a classic block on “first”!!!!

Sarah B

August 18th, 2009
11:47 pm

See everyone tomorrow. I’m beat after the travel.

Sarah B

August 18th, 2009
11:53 pm

Is that twice I have heard Thomas Johnson’s name?? I know I am behind. But am I wrong??? I’ll check in tomorrow. I gotta crash, been through a delay, then Air Tran turned it into a non-delay, hurry and rush to board… thank God. Arrivedd at home about 9:45. Gotta go will watch the DET. game tomorrow night. Luv you guys….

SB – Out…

Ed-Covington

August 19th, 2009
1:56 am

Preseason or not, giving up 450 yards to the Lions is a disgrace. Doesn’t matter if we win or lose, really; but I think that we all expected a better performance from the defense. The Steelers may have gone winless in the preseason last year, but I bet their defense never gave up over 450 yards to anybody. As you said, we made rookies and players from an 0-16 team look like all-pros. Detroit was looking at plenty of people, too; probably more since they have a lot more questions on offense than the Birds. Worst play of the game was JA putting a spin move on a running back instead of just running him over. Of course, by the time JA had finished his move, the ball was gone. Just a step behind, as usual. In another article today, Hamilton talks about teaching JA some new moves and techniques. What did they teach him last year? The wrong techniques? Or did they just finally admit that he’s not the pass rusher that Richie McKay thought he would be? Also, I love Chauncey Davis as much as anyone, but don’t be fooled by his sack numbers. JA is still a better run defender than CD. Maybe it would be best to just move JA inside and use CD, Bierman and Sidbury at DE in a rotation with Abe. I would still worry about the run defense on the left side and when Abe is on the sidelines. Bierman looked good against the run on Saturday, but I worry about his size.
Overall, evrybody gets a big “D” for the lions game.
LBs: This was the year Nicholas was supposed to break out; he hasn’t. Peterson was going to be a big upgrade over Brooking; he wasn’t. Lofton was going to be even better in his second year, he didn’t show it. Loved to see Tony Gilbert succeed, even if I am a Tech man.
DL: Only Abraham, Bierman and Thomas Johnson showed up. CD and JA we discussed. Jerry and Sidbury looked absolutely lost on several plays, I believe that Sidbury was offsides twice. Didn’t see much of Trey; Babs, Walker and Jefferson did nothing special, even against the Lion scrubs.
Dbacks: Torched by three rookies?(QB, WR, & RB) and Dante Culpepper? abd whoever the other Lion QB was? If Colbert could catch and Calvin had played they might have put a 50 on the Birds. What will they do against Breez, Steve Smith and the other QBs and WRs in our division? Really a scary proposition.
I am and will always be a Falcon fan and just hope that Mike Smith and Brian van Gorder and Ray Hamilton will hve everyone ready to play in three weeks. I just believe that we were all led to think from Dimitrof’s success with the offense last year that we would see the same from the defense this year. Peterson is no Michael Turner, Jerry is no Sam Baker, etc. I just don’t see any of these draft choices and free agents making a significant improvement this year over what we had last year. I know we will be much better next year, but how many more years does Tony Gonzales have left? Maybe William Moore’s return and another couple of weeks of practice will make a difference. I certainly hope so. Go Birds!! (Please excuse any spelling or grammar errors; it’s very late and I need to get to bed, I know this is a long response, but D3 asked for our opinions and these are mine. Thanks, D3 and all BirdCagers!)

Ed

August 19th, 2009
4:23 am

Good breakdown D3 over what will surely become a hot topic over the next several weeks if not longer. This defense is much more in line what we all expected last year when everything turned to gold. As Ed – C said “we will be much better next year” and this defense may see a significant dropoff from last year’s production.

JJ

August 19th, 2009
7:33 am

Welcome back Sarah B.!

Denis Leary is giving greeny an aneurism on mike n mike, hillarious!

JJ

August 19th, 2009
7:35 am

D3, great analysis, again!

YUP!!

August 19th, 2009
8:31 am

YUP!!! One “PRE-SEASON” game time to throw in the towel…..the season has went down the drain.

2008 Detroit pre-season 4-0 and lost every game in the REGULAR season.

2008 Steelers 0-4 in the pre-season won the superbowl.

Hum…….I’ll take the steelers route. GO FALCONS!!!

Ric Roc

August 19th, 2009
8:31 am

Why is everyone calling this a good analysis?? In actuality, it was pretty piss poor. The first and second team defense allowed 3 points…ooohhhhh lawdy!!! Those three came on DET’s first possession, which was aided by defensive holding call against Brent Grimes on third down; a screen pass; and a QB scramble when Dante Culpepper was able to allude the pass rush and gain a few yards before a savvy TD-saving tackle by Mike Pete. And John Abraham spent most of his night dropping back into coverage, instead of rushing the passer.

I’m not sure what game you people were watching. So what our third team and fourth team reserves got torched by an inspired DET bunch looking to make an impression and a roster?? No one’s happy about it, but no reason for all this gloom and doom speak.

You talk about no pass rush but Culpepper and Stafford were hurried and flushed from the pocket aplenty in that game and Culpepper isn’t exactly Dan Marino in the pocket. The guy isn’t MV7 either, but he can move. I saw plenty enough speed by Mike Pete to chase him out of bounds after a three yard gain.

You people, including D3 and D-Led, are seriously bugging if you’re judging our defense off the sloppy play of 3rd and 4th stringers from the first preseason game when there was no preparation whatsoever for the opponent prior.

Ric Roc

August 19th, 2009
8:46 am

All this b/c our third and fourth string couldn’t stop their third and fourth string?!? Boo frigging hoo…

Seriously????

Ric Roc

August 19th, 2009
8:52 am

I’m more disappointed in the fans’ and writers’ reaction than the performance of some reserves that likely won’t make the roster: Tony Tiller, Glen Sharpe…maybe Robert James, just to name a few.

So our LBs look slow…when compared to whom? Kevin Smith and Aaron Brown? Both guys run sub-4.4 forties…what and how many LBs do you know that can do the same?

For no pass rush, the Dante and Matthew were flushed from the pocket and picking themselves up off the turf after a hit quite often…what game were you people watching?

D3

August 19th, 2009
8:56 am

Good Mid-Week A.M. Cagers! Hope everyone’s off to a good week as we roll towards defensive redemption against the Rams, even though Marc Bulger is out, so we may not get a true look.

Bird Cage Editor’s Note – Unfortunately due to time constraints, I’ll be going to a post every other day at this point. Too many nights of heading to bed a little late has forced me to do it this way which is all good, b/c I’ll still hit 4 a week. Once a week I’ll also be hitting a Fan-Centric blog that will focus on the fans experience, as well as the nuts and bolts of the Falcons. Something I’ve been meaning to do anyway.

Have a great day and I’ll pop back in soon.

CBrass

August 19th, 2009
9:06 am

D3,

Again great job!!! These other AJC bloggers need to step there game up.

As I’ve stated before JA hasn’t shown and didn’t show me anything on last Saturday. If I do not see anything on Friday I’m really going to start to put the BUST label on him. I know he’s only being playing the position for a couple of years and this is not officially the start of the season but enough is enough. He’s getting paid god knows how much to put the QB on his a$$ and he can’t even get a finger on him. There is only so much that can be taught the player HAS TO GET THE JOB DONE!!! It may not be fair to label him as a bust…he should have never been taken that high in the draft but being drafted so high comes with high expectations. If we can’t any pressure on the QB the secondary is going to get picked.
As for Peterson that guy looked like he is waaaaay passed his prime and has gotten terribly slow. Maybe he will show us something on Friday. I think Lofton will be fine mainly because he miss practice time nursing his sore hammy. Gilbert was the only bright spot(At LB) due to his pick-6 off of Stafford(who by the way look very good). I was really shocked to see that Jerry was already drawing double teams. Owens looked sharp especially on the run. He got there quickly and made the tackle once he was there. That holding call in Grime was horrible. The pass break up that he had was awesome. From what I saw he played very physical and wasn’t pushed around.

Again D3 great job!!!

Sarah B,

Glad to have you back girl!!!

BIRDMAN

August 19th, 2009
9:33 am

GOOD MORNIN CAGE PEOPLE

Great blog D3.Thanks for all your hard work geting all this together.Don’t no a lot about who is better here and who’s worse there .To me the D looked like a bunch of kids not knowing what to do .I like what you said Ed,C about the Steelers probably not givein up that many yards ,your porbably right.
Almost makes you think that all the D sucks .And if they could be traded for some of the other teams left overs we would be better off.But I know that ant the case.They must do better tho.You can bet that the Dolphins are gona be watching all the tapes on these games and there lookin at all the week spots our D line has and how to use that aginst us .Right now there thinkin they can run all over this D and they are right.I.m sure we will get better and it may take a year are so for this D to get good.But this year our O is gona have to work there tail off to keep us in the games.Good thing we are blessed with good O.I just don’t see them getin a whole lot of breaks

Thanks to you all and I hope you all havea Blessd day

KEEP …IT…COMEIN …GUYS

Coop

August 19th, 2009
9:36 am

Ric Roc – I was watching the game with the SLOW LB that couldn’t catch Culpepper (who isn’t running a sub 4.4). The 3rd and 4th string did get blown up, but I didn’t see our starters stopping too much when they were in. I’m a homer like everyone else, but I’m not blind.

JA98 has to show more, or he won’t start game 1 at DE.

Owens will eventually start over Grimes.

LBs will be OK, but I wouldn’t mind seeing Gilbert or Wire over Peterson.

In the end, the entire D wins or loses based on the D line. Gotta get a push, AND the DEs and LBs MUST contain when there is a push.

YUP!!

August 19th, 2009
9:44 am

WHAAA! We got beat in the pre-season!! GROW UP CRY BABIES!!! I guess all the players are in the corner of the locker room crying about a pre-season lose. How about waiting and see how the team progresses through the entire PRE-SEASON then you will be able to make an EDUCATED opinion.

Jim n Buckhead

August 19th, 2009
10:51 am

While im not going to take too much from one preseason game which i really didnt think the Falcons played that good in any aspect…I mean they missed an extra point…but what really got me was on a 3rd long to end the game there was an assignment missed that left the QB to run almost 15 yrds straight up field…now when you also remember back to last years playoff game when the middle was open for the Cards to ice the game……on D they need to work this out..

Unca' Bob

August 19th, 2009
10:54 am

D3,

Coach Smith has stated the Falcon Defense gave up 125 yards in the first half. They also only allowed 3 points. In the second half we gave up 329 yards and 24 points. The entire game was nothing but an evaluation of each player. The Coaching Staff now has another tool to help with their decision making. Elam missed an extra point so I feel that we should, just prior to abandoning ship, hang him from the yardarm.

SeminoleWarrior

August 19th, 2009
11:13 am

Good morning Cage…

First, CB is on target. The PREMIER blog continues to raise the game. D3, another outstanding effort.

Back in a few to break it all down.

blord

August 19th, 2009
11:15 am

Since there was no real gameplan going into the Detroit game the defense doesn’t scare me much yet. It they have a poor showing this week I will be a little more concerned but the main thing is how they look in the third game. I would like to see more of a pass rush. That is the only real thing that came out of this past weeks game that could be worrisome. Thomas Johnson made a nice play but if he ends up being a starter for us that may be a really bad sign. I am so tired of JA98. He just doesn’t seem to understand when to use what move. I think that is what leaves him just short of making plays sometimes. I liked Ownens a lot though. Gritty player who likes to tackle. He gave up a touchdown but was right there and it took a perfect throw and nice catch to beat him. That is all you can ask for in a corner. He will start at some point I think either by preformance or by injuries to Grimes or Houston.

BIRDMAN

August 19th, 2009
11:17 am

Mornin Unca Bob

You are right we all need to slow douwn and wate on a few more games.Just guess we are wanting to see the best way to early .

Thanks Man.I look foword to the friday game.

Thanks Sarah for letin me know the station.

KEEP IT COMEIN……GO …..BIRDS

Stirg d'Nahsif

August 19th, 2009
11:17 am

(I don’t know why I’m nibbling on that bait. Its boring here.)

No one is crying about losing a preseason football game. Who cares about a loss in a week 1 preseason game? Before anyone else assumes that us loyal everyday fans (not the ones who dip in every-now-and-then to post a negative comment) are crying about losing the game, let me remind you where the disturbance lies. We are disturbed by the first team play during the first quarter. We are disturbed by the slow, weak play of Peterson; the bone-headedness play of Anderson; the lack of “urgency” that TD is desiring. For those that don’t understand, let me define TD’s version of “urgency”. It simply means “right now”. Why wait until week one of the regular season to let the dogs out (again, no pun intended)? Do we really want to wait until game 4 of preseason or game 1 of regular season to evaluate Anderson’s worth; or determine that Peterson is just too old? No. I say we put them out there, right now, at full-max, so we can make our decisions come trade deadline and cut-day.

I watched NY Giants play this preseason and it looked like their defense played with urgency. Carolina’s defense (with Peppers) played with urgency. New Orleans looked good and is playing with urgency. Everybody is playing for “the right now” except us. We want to wait until the bye week of regular season to turn on the burners. Well, let me remind you of who we play before the bye-week: Miami, Carolina and New England, all which are playing with “urgency”. If we don’t take the opportunity to play with “urgency” during preseason, we’ll be 0-3 before the bye-week.

The time is right now, ladies and gentlemen. As Ike said to Tina, “We got the right songs, in the right place, at the right time. Now, I need for you to get your ass out there on that stage, right now.”

CBrass

August 19th, 2009
11:20 am

SW,

How’s it’s going my man? What’s up with Bill out in the Atlantic? What path is he gonna take?

YUP!!

August 19th, 2009
11:22 am

Stirg d’Nahsif………….WHAAA!!!!!

SeminoleWarrior

August 19th, 2009
11:34 am

CBrass, Bill is a monster and is looking to possibly get even stronger. It appears poised to spare the mainland US which is a darn good thing trust me. We are watching it closely though.

Stirg, you picked up right where we left this issue on Sunday. And you are exactly right. Champions do not relent…they push themselves all the time. Urgency and intensity are need. Well stated. I’ll have your back in a little while when I too release my thoughts.

tyler

August 19th, 2009
11:40 am

JA is what he is. Ever since we drafted him I have felt he does not have the great quickness to be a pass rusher. They can teach him all the moves they want but he is not going to get any faster. He does play the run well, and thats all we will ever get from him; along with a few coverage sacks.

Not to concerned with Jerry yet, but this team can not afford ANOTHER first round DL bust. He did show some quickness and that is a good sign.

Sidbury showed quickness on a couple of his rushes, but could not make a play.

Owens IMO was very impressive for a first NFL game. He looks like a playmaker, which is what every team has to have in the NFL.

CBrass

August 19th, 2009
11:46 am

SW,

I read earlier that it is now classified as a category 4 storm!!! Glad to see that it will not be a direct hit on the mainland if it’s going to get stronger.

Stirg d'Nahsif

August 19th, 2009
11:53 am

What’s up, Seminole Warrior, CBrass, Unca’ Bob, e’erybody? Even you, YUP!!! (sorry; I don’t debate ignorance).

COOP, I agree. Owens will eventually start; but I think he’ll start earlier than anticipated. We’re still not conscience to the severity of Houston’s injury, number one; and number two, I think both Owens and Grimes demonstrated more “urgency” to play than any other cornerback on the team. Do we start two undersized cornerbacks? Yes; if they are playmakers.

Anderson, simply put, needs more time to mature. I know patience for his maturity is near-’bout exhausted but the man switched positions late in his amatuer career. I say that we keep him in for run support and bring him out, for the likeness of Sidbury, in obvious passing downs. We have a pretty good run-support corps: Abraham, Lewis, Babineaux, Anderson, Pete, Nicholas, Lofton, Owens, Grimes, DeCoud and Coleman.

Dawson Devitt (D3)

August 19th, 2009
12:01 pm

Great Mid-Week Day Ladies and Gents! Good banter going back and forth. Let’s dive in……..

Sarah B – Great to have you back. You got some catching up to do.

Ed-Covington – Agreed. That “spin-move” by JA was pathetic.

Ed – Thanks for the props. I think we’ll be OK eventually on DEF.

JJ – Thanks brother. Are you having Golf Major withdrawals yet?

YUP! – I understand your frustration , I think a lot of us are simply bringing up issues that need to be addressed. I would hesitate to say that we are as far along as the Steelers, regardless of record.

Ric Roc – So let me take your “analysis” of my writing. First of all their opinions of my breakdown are just that “their opinions”, so I can’t speak for them. I mentioned several times that it is just a preseason game. If you feel that our first team defense was top-notch than that’s certainly your opinion. I, along with several other fans, felt that it was a pretty weak showing by our retooled defense against a team that went 0-16 for the first time in NFL history, that was supposed to feature an influx of speed, athleticism, and striking ability. We agree that it mainly was our 2nd and 3rd team that got blown out, but that’s not too encouraging either since their 2nd and 3rd teams were in as well. Just a difference of opinion.

CBrass

August 19th, 2009
12:02 pm

Stirg,

I’m dong good. Just enjoy some lunch at the moment. Your band have any shows coming up?

BIRDMAN

August 19th, 2009
12:06 pm

I just started here in the cage and I’m glad it’s here.I’m just starting to realy learn this game .I’ve always been a fan of the birds and football .Some of my coments to you ,GOO ROO’S, may seam stuped.But like I said I’m here to learn and to just hear something about this team I’m so fired up about.This is the best site I have found about our team the NFC south and just all of football all together .I think some of you Men and Lady’s are very smart on your opinions.But I plan on bein here for a long time,if the Lord willing, and I will throw in my little coments from time to time.Win or lose ..This is why I say Keep it comein ,couse its great to read.

Bless you all

CBrass

August 19th, 2009
12:11 pm

Birdman,

I felt and still feel the same way. The people here is awesome and will not look down you for not being as knowledgeable about the game as they maybe. Glad to have you here love your excitement about the game and the team!!

Stirg d'Nahsif

August 19th, 2009
12:12 pm

Yes, CBrass. Outside of our regular, weekly gig at the Detroit Pub, we have two shows approaching for a Veteran’s organization, doing a stand-down and a private party on a boat down river.

CBrass

August 19th, 2009
12:16 pm

Stirg,

That’s awesome!!

YUP!!

August 19th, 2009
12:19 pm

I will leave it up to the coaches as to what must be done.

Agreed 3rd and 4th qrt. was horrible but I’m not willing to say this defense is in the toilet based on that.

Now if the entire 1st string goes down then I might worry. I’m sure this week will be better. I have confidence in the coaching staff to make the adjustments that’s needed. Let then figure out who needs to play when and where. Fan first……coach never.

Stirg d'Nahsif

August 19th, 2009
12:24 pm

Thanks, CBrass. In this time of hustle, music seems to be the mainstay in this depressed town. Motown lives on, though. As soon as we develop a webpage and I complete this MySpace and Facebook group page (been working on it for weeks), I’ll foward the addresses so you can watch video and sing-a-long…lol.

CBrass

August 19th, 2009
12:40 pm

Stirg,

Please do. Would love to listen and sing-a-long…LOL

YUP,

“Fan first……coach never.” That’s well said. No one here is trying to be a coach. I think we(the cage family) are so afraid that the negative comments made about our D may have had some truth to them with the way that things went on Saturday!! Glad to have you here in the cage.

SeminoleWarrior

August 19th, 2009
12:45 pm

CBrass, not sharing lunch…(pouting here.LOL).

Great comments on the post by our esteemed CEO. I’m not going to add much more to what has already been said. Personally, I unloaded enough on the defense Sunday so I will give them a pass today. But I will leave the Cage fam with the following thought from my 16 Aug 09, 4:02pm post.

Aggression, attitude, and focus MUST be critical for this team to be a force this season. I knew that this was an evolving process on defense and thus, my 9-7 second place finish prediction in the division a few months back. I still stand by that prediction. We will get better for sure but there is no doubt that much work remains.

Ed-Covington

August 19th, 2009
12:48 pm

To all of you who are being critical of us for being critical of the defense: we all know it was the first preseason game, we all hope that it improves. D3 asked for our opinions with specific questions. What were we all supposed to say? “It’s the first preseason game and doesn’t matter”? That would have been a really entertaining blog, wouldn’t it?

SeminoleWarrior

August 19th, 2009
12:53 pm

YUP!! If I am trying to be a coach, so be it. I’m a lifelong fan who take GREAT pride in his Falcons. And I have earned the righ to be as critical as I can be. the 3rd and 4th teams are supposed to look funky. You are correct my friend, evaluate them and hope to see improvement. But it was the horrid lack of effort by too many WHO would be STARTERS that shocked us this past weekend.

As Stirg stated so well again this morning, you did not see the starters for the the G-Men, the Kittens (aka Panthers), the Saints, and the Steelers come into their games with a “happy go lucky approach”. As Herm Edwards would say, play to win the game.

This defense is young. We need the leaders to set a tone NOW!! Attitude, approach to the game, and intensity in the game are CRITICAL.
That my friend is what is in question at this moment.

In Smitty I trust; we will see progress on Friday night.

SeminoleWarrior

August 19th, 2009
12:55 pm

D….d. I’m sorry Cage. I fell for it didn’t I?

Unca' Bob

August 19th, 2009
12:57 pm

Falcons coach Mike Smith said he will play the rookies and younger players early against St. Louis to see how they fare against the Rams’ better players

BIRDMAN

August 19th, 2009
1:01 pm

KEEP
IT
COMEIN..!
GO
BIRDS..!

SeminoleWarrior

August 19th, 2009
1:06 pm

UnCa Bob (Semper Fi my brother)

A wise approach by Smitty. Got to establish that critical depth!

He should also flip a coin; Heads, Shock get the entire first half; Tails, Redman gets it. JPW is practice squad bound. I know a lot of people are calling for Redman to be cut but I do not think it is likely unless he totally collapses. And that is not likely; he does have more starting experience than anyone on the roster except MR.

Stirg d'Nahsif

August 19th, 2009
1:08 pm

I can go along with 9-7, Warrior. That was my prediction when we discussed it in the offseason. Aggression, attitude and focus must be addressed THIS WEEK, with “urgency”. Without it, we’re doomed.

The pundits who support the lackadaisical play of our defense, I’ll give you that. I’ll give you the fact that the players may be saving themselves for week 1 of regular season. So, instead of speaking on behalf of anybody else, I’ll just tell you about me. Pre-season, regular season, post-season, off-season, winter season, four seasons, season salt, season all… I don’t care. I am not about to give my opponents bragging rights. That’s just the competiveness in me. I will talk smack at the card table. Its more than just a game; its competition. The first team defense should feel awful, at the very least, for their lack of “urgency” in that game.

YUP!!

August 19th, 2009
1:21 pm

I said I was no coach. If anyone on this board wants to play that game fine with me. I just don’t see the point in getting all crazy over the first pre-season game.

If some don’t have a problem with giving your opinion on how bad they sucked, why is is a problem for some of you to get upset that 1 pre-season game really doesn’t get me all worried.

Again I look back at the Steelers last year 0-4 pre-season SUPERBOWL CHAMPS!!

Unca' Bob

August 19th, 2009
1:25 pm

Cagers,

I have not seen the game, but lack of effort is not acceptable. Not in preseason, or any other time.

SeminoleWarrior

August 19th, 2009
1:26 pm

With you 1000% Stirg….The best are the best because they never quit.

If I could speak to BVG, I would give him two pieces of advice. I learned them many years back while attending the NCO Academy (military leadership school). They are from one of America’s finest battlefield commanders, General George S. Patton. Trust me, there is NO ONE capable of questioning the successes of his team!! I took them to heart a long time ago, used them as a leader myself (thank, General (RIP)) and they are still alive and well within me today.

“I always believe in being prepared, even when I’m dressed in white tie and tails.”

A good plan, violently executed now, is better than a perfect plan next week.”

CBrass

August 19th, 2009
1:29 pm

SW,

LOL don’t pout you didn’t miss much!!

Unca' Bob

August 19th, 2009
1:32 pm

SW,

I would like to see the QB area cleaned up also. M Ryan does not need many reps and DJS and CR do. Play ‘em.