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Looked Great in Red & Black (Curtis Compton/AJC)

#88 Looked Great in Red & Black (Curtis Compton/AJC)

After a very successful Friday Night Lights event at Brookwood High on Friday night, the Atlanta Falcons concluded their Allstate All-Access Weekend with the Roam the Dome event at the Georgia Dome. It was a great environment that allowed fans to come see the team up-close and get a feel for what it looks like from the “good” seats. It was a very family friendly affair that allowed the kids to run around and enjoy themselves, concessions were open, and there were on the field games and activities after the scrimmage. Autographs were also available for season ticket holders who requested the free tickets in time. There was a coin toss, singing of the national anthem, and the new Falcons cheerleaders debuted at halftime. The event had the feel of a spring practice game for those of you who have attended one. Everything wasn’t free however. Free parking was available in the orange lot, but that filled up pretty quickly and the rest had to pay to park. If you’re not into the long and technical play-by-play action, you can fast forward to the end and check out the overall, final impressions of the scrimmage.

1st Team Defense

Another Good Day (Curtis Compton/AJC)

Grimes Had Another Good Day (Curtis Compton/AJC)

The first quarter had the starting defense against the 2nd or 3rd team offense, not sure what it would be considered. Players that were noticeably absent from the first team DEF included no signs of Peria Jerry, Trey Lewis, or Curtis Lofton. The starters saw Abraham, Thomas Johnson, Babineaux, and I think Kroy Biermann may have started, but they rotated so much that you couldn’t really tell. Gilbert filled in for Lofton, Nicholas and Peterson as the outside backers, with DeCoud, Coleman, Grimes, and Houston rounding out the defensive secondary. Thomas Brown looked good, fast, and quick and looks to have completely recovered from his injury. DJ Shockley started the series and had nice, crisp passes and seemed to have a good command of the huddle and the offense. DJ had a good fade pass to Eric Weems to the outside and Weems made a nice over the head catch for a first down. Next play Abraham got in for a sack. Mike Peterson looked good and aggressive flying around the field. DJ scrambled around on the next play and threw a pass that was little high to TE Jason Rader, and Rader had a very un-athletic jump and missed the pass. Bad looking play. Defense in general looked ok and you certainly can’t gauge a lot without full pads, but the second team offense drove pretty well.

1st Team Offense

Looked Solid in the Slot (Curtis Compton/AJC)

Bergeron Looked Solid in the Slot (Curtis Compton/AJC)

Expected starters on offense with Brian Finneran starting opposite Michael Jenkins being the only exception. Matt Ryan had a nice play action roll out and dump off pass to Brian Finneran for a 6 yard game. Turner power lead for a 2 yard gain, which of course we don’t know the true gain with no pads. Troy Bergeron (#11) got a lot of playing time on the first team offense working in the slot. 3rd and short give to Ovie Mughelli who bulled ahead for an easy first down. The next play was a mess. Give to Turner, who then handed it to Jenkins on a double reverse that was dropped for a pretty big loss. It was hard to get all the players who started on the second team defense, but I know I saw Tony Tiller(CB), Willie Evans(DE), Jamaal Fudge(S), Chris Owens(CB), Peria Jerry(DT), Robert James(OLB), Tywain Myles(DT), Vance Walker(DT), Eric Brock(S), Spencer Adkins(OLB-maybe?), Lawrence Sidbury(DE), and Antoine Harris(S). Ryan play action fake, 5 yard dump pass to Justin Peele. Ryan dropped straight back and had a nice thrown pass to Jenkins on a long curl route that was run very well. Misdirection lead to Michael Turner for a short gain. Drop back pass from Ryan to Norwood in the flats that looked good. Nice looking empty backfield set with Turner lining up wide, Jenkins and Finneran out wide with Gonzalez at TE, and Bergeron in the slot (I think?). As we all expected, Gonzalez really can stretch the field running a deep out or corner route, leaving Jenkins one-on-one with a beautiful slant for a touchdown.

2nd Team Offense

Chance at #2 Spot? (Curtis Compton/AJC)

Chance at #2 Spot? (Curtis Compton/AJC)

Biermann, Jason Jefferson, Thomas Johnson, and JA#98 starting on the D-Line. John Parker Wilson looked pretty good overall for a rookie playing against the first team defense, in my opinion. Nothing spectacular, but overall pretty good. JPW had a pass to Chandler William that was tipped and should’ve been picked by Tony Gilbert, but Williams looked it in to his credit. They drove down the field with Parker Wilson at the helm with not too many problems. No sign of Peria Jerry or Trey Lewis on the first team defense. Chevis Jackson was called for a pass interference in the end zone against Darren Mougey that would’ve put them on the 1 yard line.

Took a break from the action and came back to see the first team offense in the red zone. They had Gonzalez split out wide at one point, using a four wideout set with Jenkins, Finneran, and Bergeron in the slot. Next play was a thing of beauty, Gonzalez ran a deep out in the end zone with Jenkins(I think?) running a cross or slant take-off route leaving a beautifully thrown ball to Gonzalez who made a spectacular catch in the end zone for a touchdown over two defenders. Nice way to end the half.

2nd Half

Long Ways to Go on Defense (Curtis Compton/AJC)

Long Ways to Go on Defense (Curtis Compton/AJC)

Shockley directing the 2nd team offense and threw a pass that was a catchable ball, but Chris Houston committed a pass interference on Aaron Kelly in the end zone, who looked to have him beat. Seen that happen before. Shockley looked good (trying to be as objective as possible, but that was pretty obvious). Thomas Brown saw a lot of playing time throughout the entire game, never saw Jason Snelling once, maybe I missed him. Chevis Jackson seems to working in the slot again, with Grimes and Houston starting corners. Eric Weems came down with a nice over the head catch to stay in bounds and move the chains. In the red zone, DJ had to wait on Aaron Kelly running a deep out in the end zone. Kelly ran an ugly route and may could’ve been open. The offense had a four wide look and the defense brought serious pressure, but DJ picked up the blitz really well with a nicely thrown ball to Chandler Williams. There’s a gap here for some reason, maybe that had a turnover on downs, but the first team offense came in with Redman leading the team. Jerious Norwood got a lot of gives and looked good and fast. Nice pass and catch to Robert Ferguson, who looked pretty fast and caught everything thrown to him. Well thrown pass and catch by Troy Bergeron who fought off defenders to make a 15 yard gain. Fake handoff reverse to Ferguson who showed really good speed on the outside. Made it inside the red zone. Next play Redman was flushed out of the pocket and found Hartsock in the end zone for a touchdown, probably would’ve been a sack in a real game.

Last Possession

Not a Bad Showing (Curtis Compton/AJC)

Not a Bad Showing (Curtis Compton/AJC)

John Parker Wilson led the team down the field on the last drive, having some up and down moments as expected by a rookie QB. Nice pass to Keith Zinger (TE) down the middle of the field and dropped it, confirming the knock on him last year. JPW led the team down the field again towards the end zone. One of the last plays saw Parker Wilson looking for a receiver and Brent Grimes made an unbelievable play to make the interception and killed the drive that ended the scrimmage.

Final Impressions
Overall it was a great experience as a Falcon fan to get up close and see what our team looks like. It was a chance to bring the entire family and quench a little bit of our football appetite before the real deal starts in about a month. Kudos to the Atlanta Falcons organization for giving the fans a chance to see the team, all for free.

Even though I had my doubts, Brent Grimes looks to be quickly locking up the open cornerback job opposite Chris Houston. The guy just makes plays that he shouldn’t be making with his frame. We’ll wait until the preseason games, but if its anything like his current work, he’ll be starting.

DJ Shockley looked good in action. He had a good command of the offense and the huddle. He picked up the blitzes well and showed his nice mobility, arm strength, and improved accuracy. In my opinion, John Parker Wilson looked pretty good as a rookie QB facing a 1st team defense. He certainly showed he can handle 3rd backup duty and be a project for the future.  Chris Redman earns over 4 million a year as a backup, so this is definitely a battle to watch.

The offense looked good, crisp, and in tune even without Roddy White. Obviously you can only glean so much with no pads, but the passing game looked good. Matt Ryan made good decisions and threw the ball really well. The injury of Harry Douglas and Roddy White’s holdout has seemed to create a good chemistry with Ryan and Michael Jenkins. They were running against the second team defense, so take from it what you will.

Again, playing defense in only helmets will only tell so much, but as a whole the defense certainly looked shaky. Shockley looked really good against the defense and even John Parker Wilson had his moments. Pass rush seemed non-existent. DeCoud and Coleman look to be forming a good chemistry in the D-backfield, but the secondary got dinked and dunked down the field. Let’s hope it was due to wearing no pads.

Jason Snelling may have been injuried, but Thomas Brown appeared quick and fast in the time he saw on the field.  Brown had good cuts, some solid runs, and caught the ball well out of the backfield against the first team defense. Good chance that the Falcons carry Brown AND Snelling, but Brown took advantage of the time he received.

Missing in action again were the usual suspects, Trey Lewis and Peria Jerry. Jerry may have seen some work on the second team defense, but not on the first. Thomas Johnson and Jason Jefferson split time as the other defensive tackle beside Babineaux. It may be overblown, but how could our first round draft pick not beat out Johnson or Jefferson. The LB corps looked athletic with Peterson and Nicholas, but still missing Lofton who has a hamstring issue, which is certainly troublesome.

Tough Decisions Ahead at WR (Curtis Compton/AJC)

Tough Decisions Ahead at WR (Curtis Compton/AJC)

The wide receiver battle is intense and will require some hard decisions very soon. Looks like the veterans have the inside track at the roster spots. Aaron Kelly obviously has talent, but his routes didn’t look crisp as would be expected. Darren Mougey has great size and speed, but can’t seem to get open. Eric Weems made several nice catches and showed why he was moved up to the active roster last year. Chandler Williams also had some nice catch and runs as well. Troy Bergeron had the best day in my opinion, running good routes, making nice catches, and playing well in the slot. Bergeron saw a lot of action on the first team offense and made the most of it. Robert Ferguson showed flashes as well making good catches as showing surprising speed. Marty Booker wasn’t active, but with the signing of Roddy White the field looks to be stocked again and the competition will be fierce. There looks to be some tough decisions on the horizon concerning the backup wideout spots. They may now want to carry six WR’s.

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116 comments Add your comment

jason

August 9th, 2009
1:52 am

D3, excellent wrap up on the scrimmage. I am going to drop some opinions. Feel free to hit me up tomorrow.
1) Jerry will be Babs back up this season while he is learning the defense and adjusting to the NFL. The way I see it is Babs and Lewis start with Jerry and Walker backing up. The DT battle will come between Johnson and Jefferson for the 5th DT, if they carry 5.
2) you are tracking with me at WR. I see Bergeron as having the inside track for the slot WR vacated by the injured HD. That is a position I think he could flourish in because of his experience in the Arena League. Looking at WR, I am inclined to go with RW, MJ, Finn, Bergeron, Weems. The last spot is for Fergurson saying that he fights off the young guys. I may be solo here in thinking that Kelly has went from one of the most hyped undrafted rookies to being non factor. Would not be surprised to see him in the first round of cuts.
3) is Tony Gilbert manning the MLB why Lofton is out? If Peterson is, it gives James, Adkins, Winborn, and Wire chances to earn a spot on the team. If James is the real deal as alot of you say, he could prove a lock for the team by taking advantage of PT why Lofton is sidelined.
4) The last point is on backup QB. I posted this thought on your last blog, and I will repost briefly. If DJ and JPW both looked as good as you say, Redman will be cut before the season opener. The $4 Mil he is making is quite alot of money. Even more now when you factor in the extention RW just signed. If you are looking for a spot to save money, this is that spot; as long as DJ keeps up the good work.
Thanks for the continued good work, and for the dedication. You have inspired alot of fans with reason and purpose to root for this team. I know it’s challenging when you think about your family (’lil WR), your full time job, and just daily life itself. Enough cannot be said for the remarkable job you do to keep us updated and informed on the team, and also to keep the Falcon Passion at an all-time high as we approach this season. Thanks again. Later.

jason

August 9th, 2009
1:53 am

By the way, FIRST !!!!

Joe's place Joe speaking

August 9th, 2009
2:23 am

It’s confirmed by ESPN: 6 yrs $50 million with $18 million gauranteed
Is he worth it??

BT

August 9th, 2009
6:46 am

Nice job, D3
Glad everyone that attended the two events over the weekend had nice Falcon experiences.

On the Roddy White signing:
His deal confirms the idea the Falcons think of him as a top 5 elite, WR in the league, contrary to opinions expresses by more than a few here, Ken Strickland`s argument has proven to be one of the most correct in assessing the value of Roddy to the team.
Dimitroff said, he was working a firm and fair deal for both Roddy and the Falcons and he did it.
That should answer the question about his relative worth to the Falcons, no spinning it now, as it`s in black and white.

Stirg d'Nahsif

August 9th, 2009
7:16 am

I certainly thought that old Abe was going to be the only Falcon I jump on this season. I thought everybody else on the team made their best efforts. I focused all my speeches, blog-entries, attention on Ms. Abe…And here comes Roddy White.

Is six years for fifty-million dollars (with eighteen million upfront) worth it? It was before his selfish holdout. Who knows (but TD), he could have appeared at camp, shown some flashes of last year and make MORE than 6 for 50. It happened for Jenkins; it happened for Babs. White’s impatience not only disrupted team chemistry, it excuses six days of preparation for a pro-bowl wide receiver. For the first time in over a decade, we stand the chance to send five offensive players to the pro-bowl this season. Why disturb that? You (Roddy) have disregarded the true definition of the word “team”. I don’t want to hear this “do-what-I-got-to-do; this is a business” BS. What about the team? You demonstrated more loyalty to Michael Vick than you did to your current team. And since I’m mentioning your “current family”, let me remind you of something. You are only as good as your last touchdown. Nobody cares about what you accomplished in college; nobody cares about what you did last year; I can’t even remember your numbers in the pro-bowl. Your only accomplishments that seem to be circulating around here is your dropped passes. Your past, negative or positive, is forgotten when, or if, you catch your next touchdown. Let’s hope that in two or three years from now, you’re not going to hold out for money that matches.

There may be some fans that are willing to forget this episode, after your signing yesterday but I’m certainly not going to forget it. You didn’t forget what “they” did to Michael Vick; and I (for one) am not going to let you forget what you did to this team. I certainly hope you’re prepared to hear from me.

Your newest fan

mitch

August 9th, 2009
7:59 am

Jason–what a great weekend you’re having! Football and then first.

Unca' Bob

August 9th, 2009
8:55 am

D3,

Another great post. It has become the norm.

Some thoughts on our D-Line. From Tackle to Tackle, we have one of the very best O-Lines in the NFL. Throw into the mix T Gonzalez, who is known around the league for his blocking ability, and we are scarey good. This is year two in the O-Line continuity and will only get better. Our D-Line goes head to head with this formidable line on a daily basis. There may be no percieved progress with our D-Line, but when we play other NFL teams that are not so nicely stacked, we as fans are going to be impressed…Just a thought.

JJ

August 9th, 2009
9:32 am

D3, Ditto my man, just keeps getting better! It’s all good!

SeminoleWarrior

August 9th, 2009
10:25 am

What’s up Cage!! I see that the CEO is off and running early with another excellent analysis.

RW take. As most of the Cage family knows, I have been consistent in my “Reggie Wayne” comparsions when it comes to RW. But last night, after my man UnCa Bob (Semper Fi my brother) broke the news of the deal, like the CEO, I did some soul searching.

I’m going to shift my position on RW a little so follow me here. RW was taken in the FIRST round of the 2005 draft. We expect our FIRST round picks to come in and make impacts over the tenure of their first deal. RW came in, disgruntled at the start, but once on the field, he began to show some flash. Oh, yes at times, he had the hands of Swiss cheese. I will come back to why in a few. But he, on occasion showed promise.

Why was he (RW) not consistent? Instability at the most critical position on the field. Let keep it real Cage. Jim Mora Jr and Gregg Knapp could not get the former team leader to make the adjustments needed to transition in the role of a quality NFL QB. Stop right now..I know I will hear all the points about him being different, special, unique, etc. But the QB position did nothing in the first two years of the RW era to showcase this man’s abilities. Hell, Jenkins was the number one receiver in ‘06 with seven TDs but that was only after the QB was “forced” to pass more by Coach Greg Knapp. The QB’s frustration, a stupid set of talk show interviews by the coach, and AB’s spending too much time out of the owner’s box and at the side of his QB, would lead to January 2007. Mora was fired and our own Hell week, an extended version, began.

The case unfolded. I’ll leave that there. With Redman and Harrington in 2007, Hue Jackson, a former receivers coach, got to RW. He coached him up, instilled some pointers on work ethic, and held them, ALL of them, accountable. With JOURNEYMAN talent at QB and behind a line that was supposedly the WORST in Falcons history, all of a sudden, a star was born. This freak occurrence was taken to another level when in 2008, Coach Robiskie intensified the rigorous demands on his receiving corps, a quality OC took charge of a young QB, a QUALITY OL coach turned the worst into the envy of the league, and we went back to a balanced attack.

In many ways, RW owes his new found lease on stardom and life to the events of the last almost three years. Had they not taken place, he would be on his way out of ATL. We would be debating his bust potential just like we are doing right now with Jamaal Anderson. Hell, a few of us are already whispering concerns about the Jerry selection.

Enough on RW…he has his deal and he is in camp. But if he is the friend he said so famously showed the world he was was to a certain former player, he may want to show some love, write out a nice check from his signing bonus, and send the brother a cut of this pie. For if it was not for the misfortunes of the brother, his former QB, his friend, RW would not have had his big day on Saturday.

mitch

August 9th, 2009
10:30 am

Unca’ Bob–how many times have you seen the Falcon’s offensive line in action this year? Surely, not more than five or six. Have you seen the offensive lines of the other teams this year? How many times?

long time falcon

August 9th, 2009
10:43 am

Ken stricklands argument was not correct. He was making a case for why white should be paid larry fitzgerald money. White did not get larry fitzgerald money. Most bloggers here, myself included, thought that white was most deserving of a new contract but didn’t deserve to be paid like larry. According to adam schefter of NFL network white’s contract is for 6 years at a little more than 8 million per season with 18.6 million gauranteed. Thats a fair deal for both white and the falcons and I think about what most here thought white deserved. In fact I specifically remember having conversations on this blog where the number of 7 to 8 million per season was thrown around as being fair compensation. The 18.6 in gaurantee’s is also fair as it pays white for good production but is not the 20 million plus signing bonus that some of the super elite players receive. A fair deal which is what most bloggers here wanted all along.

mountain_jim

August 9th, 2009
11:06 am

Props to you, D3! This was a very enjoyable read for this NC Falcon Fan of over 30 years. Back excited again after the depressing period of the HD injury and now-ended RW holdout. I am also interested to see what Bergeron can do in the slot.

SeminoleWarrior

August 9th, 2009
11:25 am

Well stated LTF…all we wanted was a fair deal and the ability to continue the Process.

JJ

August 9th, 2009
11:28 am

mitch,

Is it really a stretch for you to recognize that the falcons have a great OL? Let’s see, we drafted one of the top OL last yr. and finished 2nd in rushing yards. This yr. we added a hof TE, whose known as a great blocker. I don’t know mitch, but I think it’s pretty safe to conclude that we have a great OL.

your pal, JJ.

2 guys and a truck

August 9th, 2009
11:37 am

Ken Strickland

August 9th, 2009
9:30 am
We’ve upgraded every position of weakness from last yrs team, especially on DEF. We’ve upgraded DE, DT, OLB, SS and TE positions, as well as added quality depth at every position except FB. Yet, so called experts, and fans that claim to be football literate, project we’ll win no more than 4 to 10 games. If you took this yrs Falcon roster, along with last yrs achievements, and named the team Steelers, Cowboys or Patriots, instead of Falcons, people would consider us Superbowl contenders.

Last yr if we’d lost WR HDouglas, or any one of our top draft picks, we would’ve been in big trouble. This yr, their isn’t a single draft pick that can’t be replaced by a equally talented player. This yrs team is built to last for the duration of the season no matter what. I LOVE THIS TEAM!!!!

kneivel

August 9th, 2009
11:38 am

Man oh man! I love this time of year. FOOTBALL BABY YEAH!!!! Can’t wait to watch preseason Falcons next week. I am excited to hear such great things about my DAWGS on the Field for the Falcons. DJ did his time as backup @ GA and had a great senior year, now looks like he has studied and learned at pro level to come in and help out Ryan. Thomas Brown will be a great back up, glad to see he’s coming back strong from injury. Tony Gilbert stepping up and showing he’s ready to play. Just goes to show that UGA has a great tradition of getting guys ready for the pro level. GO FALCONS, GO DAWGS, and Keep up the great work D3!!!!!!!

SeminoleWarrior

August 9th, 2009
11:53 am

A few points of thought..

First, the receivers. RW and MJ are locks no question there. I think that Fin is due to his reliability in clutch situations. Weems will share punt/kickoff returns with Thomas Brown so he makes the cut. I know that several of my Cage brothers feel strongly about Bergeron but I think he will lose out to the experience and versatility of Fergie. Fergie has experience on the flank as well as in the slot. He was a solid #2 slot receiver (paired with Driver and Freeman) while with the Pack a few years back. He will hold down a slot given that experience and a rather low cap hit.

Second..the QB situation. The next three weeks will be telling in that regards. Redman is not done yet and I cite the experience facet as my key arguement. DJ and JPW show promise but in the NFL, the keys to the store have be entrusted to someone that can handle it. So DJ and JPW have got to seriously “open” some eyes during the preseason. Right now I give the edge to DJ as the #3 QB.

Third. DTs. Babs and Jerry are locks though I’m going to be watching Jerry closely. Lewis, I think, is going to be released due to the knee. It appears that this is going to be an ongoing issue with him. Walker is going to end up playing major minutes this season based on what I have heard to date. Like Jerry, I will be watching him closely. The last DT slot will go to Jefferson given his consistent play as a backup. He will share that rotation with Anderson as I feel his future will be at the DT position if Sid and Coy prove to be what we think they are.

SeminoleWarrior

August 9th, 2009
12:02 pm

2 guys, I’m feeling your points. But I just wonder why a 9-7 season and the continuation of the Process’ evolution is considered a major letdown for the Falcons by so many.

I’m one of those that does not see 10 wins this season and I am willing to take my heat for it. And trust me, no one loves my Falcons more than
me! But this is a VERY yet talented team. Smitty and his staff will be aggressive in bringing them along. But a winning season and a run at the playoffs late into the season is definately a MAJOR achievement if you look at the complete package that is the history of the Falcons.

SeminoleWarrior

August 9th, 2009
12:04 pm

Oops…that should read very YOUNG but talented team.

jason

August 9th, 2009
12:13 pm

mitch, Had to grab the sarcastic first. Stayed up all night for it :)
Been a blast of of weekend getting all this football knowledge to get my fix. As you can see, working night shift got me first on the new blog, but also makes me late getting to the party.

SeminoleWarrior

August 9th, 2009
12:15 pm

Jason, at least your firewall is letting you tap into the Cage from work. The feds still have us under house arrest at my office…LOL.

What’s up bro?

rainman

August 9th, 2009
12:19 pm

Hey Seminole — I haven’t heard that Lewis is having trouble with his knee – can you elaborate? I’ve always thought the keys to the DLine would be the health of Lewis and Jamaal stepping up.

I hate Moore missing all this time. Is the battle for the forth safety between Harris and Fudge – and do they figure Hutchins can swing between CB and S?

SeminoleWarrior

August 9th, 2009
12:23 pm

Sure Rainman, he has had some swelling in his surgically repaired knee. So it will be interesting to see if he can hold up to the rigors. I too want to see Moore in the mix. He and DeCoud could be a hell of pair long term.

I think Hutch will be a backup CB and special team player. It is going to be hard to move ahead of what Grimes and Owens seem to be cooking. The preseason will be most telling my brother.

jason

August 9th, 2009
12:31 pm

SW, I am seeing 6 WRs, thus Begeron making the team. You may be right about Lewis with his ongoing knee injuries. Walker could very well end up starting oppisite Babs. I still think Jerry will be backing up Babs. They seem to be alot alike. Jerry will back up while learning the defense. I know about his age, but age is not experience. You are also right in your opinion of JAnderson moving to DT permanently. It could happen. If it does it will be because of Bierrman and Sid, and how they perform. If that happens, ATL will go back into the draft looking for another hybrid OLB/DE. I will stand by what I have been saying in that Abe will not be in ATL when his contract is up.

That was a good point on how RW develop[ed his first 2 years in the league. A for gotten point, when RW holdout was front and centered. With stability at the QB spot, who knows if RW wouldn’t have taken off sooner. As far as rhe backup QB, how long do you have to be in the NFL to get playing time? How many oppurtunities does the third QB get to perform? Redman will be cut right before the season opener, and DJ will be #2. DJ has sat and learned the playbook, as well as the NFL. 3 years, right? $4 mil is alot to pay a back up, even at QB (experienced be damned). The signing of RW to his extension, and the pending status of our OL, and Norwood will do alot to dictate where money will be continued to be spent this year as well as next. I say, if you are looking for somewhere to save some money and create cap room. Back up QB is that spot.

jason

August 9th, 2009
12:35 pm

SeminoleWarrior, the GOVT as me on lock down at wotk. ACCESS DENIED everytime I click on the blog at work. Sucks, I am working night shift this month. That’s why I have been on so much the past couple of days.

Also, Hutchins will play both CB and S (versatility). Fudge is making some noise to make the team. If Harris doesn’t get and stay healthy he will be cut. Kind of in the same boat as Lewis, in my opinion.

falcon21

August 9th, 2009
12:44 pm

Jason, I agree. They were forced to go out and get another WR with HD going down regardless of the RW situation at the time. DJ has put in his time and looks very good at this point. They need to save some money somewhere and getting rid of Redman would help.

SeminoleWarrior

August 9th, 2009
12:44 pm

Feel you Jason. We can buy 200 million dollars worth of jets to fly around punk ass congressmen but we can’t talk about the Falcons. Go figure!! LOL>

You may be right about Redman but I just think that he will restructure his deal in order to remain on the team and provide some cap relief. Hutch will be here this season given the versatility we both see in him. One thing is proven; the Patriot Way requires that backups be ready to step in and make an impact immediately. We have four games upcoming to see if DJ or JPW is that man.

jason

August 9th, 2009
12:53 pm

SeminoleWarrior, I f Redman restructures, I can see him staying, because you would want the most experienced man for the job. As I see it, when you add Redman’s salary to his experience, DJ comes out on top when you add his salary to his upside. I don’t think Redman experience is worth what he his being paid. He is being paid mid level starters money to ride the bench.

jason

August 9th, 2009
12:57 pm

falcon21, When you look at our team as constructed. Where could we cut to create salary cap room? We have like 3 OL and Norwood up for FA nextyear. We just signed RW to an extension (that will use up some cap space), and we will have to make a decision on Abe. Where can we create space. We are relatively young at all positions. Back up QB is the first spot I can think of. DJ has earned his time. He has been patient as he had at UGA.

jason

August 9th, 2009
12:59 pm

Feel you Jason. We can buy 200 million dollars worth of jets to fly around punk ass congressmen but we can’t talk about the Falcons. Go figure!! LOL>

I think it is because of lost productivity at work. Sucks because I am on night shift, and this would be a good way to keep me awake alnight. At least I have my PS2, and NCAA 2010.

mitch

August 9th, 2009
1:15 pm

JJ–I can think of three ways to evaluate athletes or teams. One might base his judgment on previous performance. That’s how you and Unca’ Bob, presumably, are evaluating the new tight end and our offensive line, and using that method is why we were surprised at Roddy White’s play two years ago after below average performance his first two years, and why we were not surprised at his performance last year because of his outstanding play the year prior. Is it a good method? Decide for yourself, but don’t ignore the many failures in players drafted high in baseball, basketball and football who fail miserably, or players who seem to lose everything after some successful years; does a recent Braves outfielder come to mind? And don’t ignore the great success of those drafted low or the many college walk-ons, so called, who turn out to be great players.

Another way is to do it by watching the athlete play in a variety of situations a great deal. The emphasis in the previous sentence is on “a variety of situations” and “a great deal.” An example of this kind of evaluation might be to watch a basketball player handle the ball, shoot, play defense, etc. If he does it in an adept manner, we might decide he is a good player. The emphasis in this method is in the skill with which the player accomplishes the tasks of the sport. The grounds for the claim are based on direct observation of his performance in the task in question, in this case, basketball. I believe an evaluation based on this method requires prolonged observation in a wide variety of situations, and it’s likely that few are around long enough to make such observations. Of course, the athlete’s coach comes to mind, or his manager or teammate, or even a sports writer provided the latter may get close enough to the action to have a good view. A personal note: I went to a large high school in Florida many years ago, and I made first string on the basketball team my first year, couldn’t hold the position, and was demoted to second and third string my remaining years. A close friend remarked to me once, “Mitch, I’ve never seen anybody as good in practice and as bad in a game as you are.” I replied, “I know.” Get it? I was a good practice player but not a good game player. One other personal observation: I was a very good baseball catcher when I was young, and I insisted even at a young age on controlling pitch selection and the deployment of my teammates in their defensive positions, and did. That is, when I was the catcher, I controlled my team. It was not unusual to hear from my girlfriend or mother, for example, and at times even the manager/coach remarks that had little to do with the game but were putatively about the game. I remember saying to the manager one time, “Are you talking about the game we just played?” My point is that even the kind of observation I am describing is problematical unless one is very close to the action, though, to be sure, if you watch very closely and know what to look for you can get a pretty good idea of why a pitcher in a given televised major league baseball game is being effective. It’s the center field camera that does the trick. But you have to pay very close attention and keep track of pitch selection. Even then, it is hard to make dependable judgments on whether pitches are high or low, and also whether a looping breaking ball catches the corner of the plate or goes around it. But if you watch closely, you might get a good idea of what a pitcher is trying to do, and how effectively he is doing it. You can’t do it if you’re sitting along the third base line and watching the girls.

The third method is relational–does this basketball player beat his guard, does this basketball team beat its opponent, does this defensive end break through his blocker more often than not, does this offensive line handle the defense, does this passer complete more passes than another, does this team win more games than others. This is the best of the three methods when discussing teams or large units of teams, like offensive lines, provided that the judgment is made across a good number of games. It is not so good in evaluating, say, quarterbacks because one might produce a great record but never win a championship. Critics are apt to use the latter fact against him even though he might have always been on a poor team. In my view, such criticism is a confused mixing of categories and of how value claims are made for our categories. A similar situation is also the problem with arguments by unbeaten college football teams from the lower classifications that they should be rated higher than one-loss teams from a higher classification. It is a mixing of categories. According to this method, the best college team next year will be the one in the highest classification that beats the most opponents and wins the championship game. The question, “But is it really the best team?” is incompetent.

I’ve said enough, and I hope, JJ, that you have the perspicacity to see that I’ve answered your question, and the choice I had in my response to Unca’ Bob’s blog entry: I could respond as I did or, alternatively, I could have hooted at him. The former was more respectful, and as you can see, it is the one I chose.

Your pal, Mitch

Unca' Bob

August 9th, 2009
1:25 pm

mitch,

I understand. I’ve had days just like you. I, too, have awakened the next morning with Fat Tire treadmarks. Trust me. It will pass. Please enjoy the rest of your Sunday afternoon.

LTF

I could not find Coach Ken’s post in the cage. I went back thru The Lofton post and did not see it . No matter. I agree entirely with the rest of your post. Well stated and presented.

Cagers,

Got tiger on the prowl, and NASCAR on the asphalt. I’ll be in and out today. Y’all enjoy a beautiful day.

SW,

You the Man. Nuff respect always!!!!!

SeminoleWarrior

August 9th, 2009
1:39 pm

Jason, that mid level starters cash was an insurance policy while we did our due diligence in finding a QB for the future. Had it not been for the arrival of TD and the drafting of Matty Ice, Redman would have been the starter. Though we are a running team by nature, we have to have capability at the QB position to ensure our balanced attack. I do not see where many other clubs will be willing to give Redman a big pay day. Not disrespect but I but I don’t see them lining up to take any of our backup QBs off our hands.

Unca' Bob

August 9th, 2009
1:44 pm

JJ,

Thank you for the look back over my shoulder. It’s always wonderful to know I have another brother. Git’ ‘em Tiger!

falcon21

August 9th, 2009
1:45 pm

Jason, depending on the young lineman, I think this my be Abe’s final year with the Birds. If that saves cap room, I don’t know. I’m glad we have TD to figure all that out. Unca’Bob, Tiger is only 3 back so if he is on his game he will probably win. As far as Nascar, I hate the Glen but I will be watching!!! The Braves are on at 4:10 and after 2 dramatic comebacks this should be a good one.

SeminoleWarrior

August 9th, 2009
1:45 pm

Jason, I’m being pressured here in the TeePee by my niece to say that Weems is definately going to make the team. Her expert opinion and analysis (yesterday was her first day seeing these guys in action) will be carefully monitored. We are betting ice cream and cake..ice cream and cake…ice cream and cake. That commerical is on my mind…LOL.

Jimbo

August 9th, 2009
1:47 pm

D3 – Nice work, my man, as usual. I noticed that Jamaal Anderson was conspicuously absent from your highlight reel. Did he disappear? You didn’t have him listed with the 1st team either, so was he just getting limited PT or just not worth reporting? By your reports you seem to concur with me that Thomas Johnson has a good chance of making this squad. Am I putting words in your mouth or is that the way you see it as well? Thanks for the good work. I think it’s great that you’ve been given this opportunity. You continue to demonstrate this was a good decision on the part of AJC, DOWho?

SeminoleWarrior

August 9th, 2009
1:47 pm

F21, I feel ya on the Glen. Still trying to find a car/team to pull for since DJ retire to the booth. I’ll pick Montoya in an upset today.

UnCa, Tiger will make you proud today…tuning up for the PGA title.

Braves out west…going to do it today.

And now my nephew is in on the ice cream and cake…ice cream and cake.

JJ

August 9th, 2009
1:55 pm

Afternoon ‘Cagers:

Pat Yas. is taking falcon questions on espn/nfcsouth blog. I wrote in 3 about: bye weeks, DJ#2?, and TLewis knee problems. Please add to the list if you have any questions. My bet is some of you guys know more than Pat!

Jason/SW: you guys are rockin today! I know its early, but DJ seams the early lead at #2. You’re right about experience, but you gotta step up at some point and get that experience, I like DJ’s arm, mobility and leadership. Plus, it’ll make D3, falcon 21 so happy! j/k

Uncl’ Bob: Looking forward to the showdown. Harrington is a seasoned vet (unlike last week) so maybe he wont crumble. Hope it comes down to the 18th! I’ll switch over ot the race during comm., just not a road fan! My bet is tony, jimmy or jeff!

JJ

August 9th, 2009
2:03 pm

Fairways and greens my friend, fairways and greens!

Unca' Bob

August 9th, 2009
2:17 pm

falcon21,

I happen to look forward to the races where right turns are needed. In my way of thinking, it separates those that can truely drive.

SW,

You, Sir, are fixin’ to come off the hip! Ice cream and cake for all! Tiger is a talent that I am truely blessed to have seen. I grew up in the era of Arnie & Jack. With no disrespect to either, IMHO Tiger is a special young man. I’m greateful for the opportunity I have to watch Tiger play.

falcon21

August 9th, 2009
2:18 pm

Rain delay at The Glen. JJ don’t worry about changing channels for a while.

JJ

August 9th, 2009
2:20 pm

f21 – thanks, braves and golf then!

SeminoleWarrior

August 9th, 2009
2:21 pm

Going to break right for a while and spend some time with these guy before it is time to take them back down south. Catch up laters.

Remember the picks….Montoya, Tiger, and the Braves.

Laters all…ONE NATION, FALCON NATION!!

jason

August 9th, 2009
2:26 pm

SeminoleWarrior, I agree. That’s why I feel Redman will be gone as soon as TD feels DJ is ready. The past two years having Redman was ok. With the transistion of MV to MR, but now we are stable at the QB position. We don’t need to keep Redman on the roster taking up alot of cap room with his $4mil salary sitting on the bench.

jason

August 9th, 2009
2:28 pm

SeminoleWarrior, either way. Icecream or cake, someone is gonna come out a winner. I want to go out on a limb and say Weems will make the team. There is something about him (I don’t know what it is) that Smitty and co. likes. If we carry 6 WRs, I say he makes it. If we carry 5, I say ATL would like to keep him on the practice squad if they can.

jason

August 9th, 2009
2:32 pm

falcon21, Yhe Abe situation comes down to how Bierrman keeps developing, and Sid comes this year. Abe is going to be tricky. You also have to take into account of how much Abe is likely to ask for.

Unca' Bob

August 9th, 2009
2:35 pm

SW,

Thank you for your input. Insightful, as always. I have been fortunate to have continued my prosess from the best. Semper Fi, indeed. Have a great afternoon my friend.

Unca' Bob

August 9th, 2009
2:58 pm

Flat footed tie! three holes.

Unca' Bob

August 9th, 2009
3:08 pm

Tiger one up!