Atlanta Falcons: Is Michael Vick the ‘Coach Killer’?




FLOWERY BRANCH — Maybe the elder Jim Mora had it correct in 2006 when he concurred with the basic concept that then-Falcons quarterback Michael Vick was a “coach killer.”

Falcons coaches Dan Reeves and Jim Mora were fired while Vick was the quarterback.

Bobby Petrino signed on to coach Vick. But when Vick was suspended and eventually went to prison on federal dogfighting charges, Petrino grew tired of Joey Harrington and Byron Leftwich and went back to the college game.

Now, Andy Reid, the longest-tenured head coach in the NFL with the same team, is doing the rope-a-dope to retain his job.

With Vick manufacturing turnovers at an alarming rate, both men are in danger of losing their jobs as they prepare to face the Falcons at 1 p.m. Sunday at Lincoln Financial Field.

Eagles owner Jeffrey Lurie said Reid’s status will become clear at the end of the season. Reid said he is not ready to walk away from the job he’s held since Jan. 11, 1999.

“I haven’t gotten to that moment,” Reid said when asked if he was ready for his tenure in Philadelphia to end. “I can tell you no. I haven’t felt that way. We love the city of Philadelphia as a family. I’m very fortunate to be doing what I’m doing. I can’t tell you that I’ve haven’t come to that point.”

Reid has battled through the death of his son, Garrett, from a drug overdose Aug. 5, and the Eagles have a 3-3 record. But they have lost three of their past four games.

Vick, as he did sometimes during his tenure in Atlanta, is treating the football like it’s a hand grenade. He’s had five fumbles and eight interceptions to grease the Eagles’ slide.

Reid sent a message to Vick and the rest of his teammates by firing defensive coordinator Juan Castillo on Oct. 16.

“It sends a message to everybody,” Vick said. “Coach made it clear that if he felt like you weren’t performing up to your potential or his standards, then you are just going to be sitting beside him.”

Vick is backed by rookie Nick Foles and veteran Trent Edwards. Vick knows that if he doesn’t eliminate the turnovers, that he’s likely next before Reid’s firing squad.

“I just have to stay focused on going out there and when I’m out there, getting the job done,” Vick said. “I can’t play looking over my shoulder. I can’t play worrying about getting taken out if things do not go right. If that’s what happens, then I’ll just stand tall and keep pushing until the next (time).”

Vick knows he has to eliminate the turnovers.

“I’m trying to make all of the corrections that I can before Sunday,” Vick said. “The most important thing is that I have to protect the football. If we do that, we give ourselves a chance to win the game.”

Reid said the coaches can help Vick.

“Coach is trying to insinuate that they can maybe help us out with the play-calling, but still, at the end of the day, the ball is in my hands,” Vick said. “Just like last week against Detroit, I can’t throw the ball up in the air and pray for a guy to make a play. I’ve got to be accurate. … It’s not the coach’s responsibility. It’s my job to correct it.”

One way the Eagles could help Vick is to rely more on running back LeSean McCoy, who appears to be under-utilized. The Falcons are giving up 143.8 yards rushing per game and rank 28th of 32 teams against the run.

“Yeah, I think we’re going to have to run the football and be able to create different looks from the defense,” Vick said. “That’s going to be important. We have to make sure that we get him going. He’s a big part of our offense.”

Reid has posted a 139-93-1 record and is 13-0 after his team’s bye week. He knows a lot is on the line for himself and his quarterback.

“If you ask any player or coach in this league, they are going to tell you that’s all part of this game,” Reid said. “You always have that there, so what you do is, as opposed to focusing in on what you can’t control, you focus in on what you can control and that’s getting yourself better. … That’s the approach that Mike takes and I take [and] our players take and coaches take.”

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166 comments Add your comment

"Chef" Tim Dix

October 25th, 2012
5:27 am

yes among other things.

Realfalconfan

October 25th, 2012
5:44 am

almost first

Realfalconfan

October 25th, 2012
5:46 am

70% chance of rain there sunday!! It might just be a mud bowl!! Im ready and like are chances even better in that.. rise up!!!

falCANS

October 25th, 2012
5:47 am

Yea Vick is who Vick has alwaysbeen and thats an entertainer

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GregKennesaw

October 25th, 2012
6:29 am

stauff

October 25th, 2012
6:37 am

No doubt. He is talented but inconsistent.

Stepchild

October 25th, 2012
6:43 am

Wow, Vick killed Petrino too!! That’s laughable. Oh, the absence of Vick killed Petrino…lol……I wonder if the absence of Vick will kill Mike Smith too. Silly to include Petrino imo.

same old story

October 25th, 2012
6:48 am

VIck? yes. and now Cam.

BobDawg

October 25th, 2012
6:49 am

He will be one for Reid…. I look for the Rookie to take over when things go south for sure…

GT71

October 25th, 2012
7:11 am

No, Mike Vick is a DOG killer. He is the ruination of a coach’s career, a social miscreant and just not worth the protoplasm.
But he doesn’t ‘kill’ coaches. He’s at least got that going for him.

Guy Bailey

October 25th, 2012
7:11 am

Only if Coach is the name of someone’s dog

GT71

October 25th, 2012
7:14 am

No, he’s a dog killer. Oh, he’ll end a coach’s career perhaps, but kill him? No.
But he is a social miscreant and not worth the protoplasm, but at least he hasn’t (yet) ‘killed’ a coach.
At least he’s got that going for him.
(2nd try at posting this – first time seemed to ‘disappear’ in the ether….hnmmm.

Jamaaliver

October 25th, 2012
7:20 am

NO! Mora got fired after a single season in Seattle because he had no control of the locker room.

Mora got fired in Atlanta for making comments about another coaching job on a radio show; also, he had lost control of the locker room.

Reeves had let the game pass him by. If I recall, he got fired the season Vick missed with injury. Our team had drafted poorly and couldn’t compete without Vick. it was an embarrassment.

Vick has rarely dominated like he should, and turns the ball over too much. But his coaches have all struggled with personnel choices, too.

True Falcon Fan

October 25th, 2012
7:25 am

DLed —- “You are BEAUTIFUL” —- now i’m wondering your mode of operinda

Go Falcons — Eaglettes & “The Coach Killers” next = Nnambi & Mike

david

October 25th, 2012
7:39 am

This time it’s not Vick’s (eeerrrrrr the Dog Killer, the STD spreader) fault. Reid will be fired for moving his OL coach, and promoting him to defensive coordinator. Two years later the Eagles defense is one the worse in the league.

Same ish different day

October 25th, 2012
7:50 am

Mike Vick is 3-3. Phillip Rivers, Payton Manning, Tony Romo and Ben Rothlesberger are also 3-3. Drew Brees, Sam Bradford and Ryan Fitzpatrick are all below .500. Funny the only name you hear about possibly losing his job is Mike Vick.

Vince Young has a 31-19 record as a pro quarterback yet the guy who decided whether or not he would play in Buffalo has a 30-52 record as a pro head coach. I just don’t understand.

Yeah I’m saying it. There is a double standard when it comes to Black quarterbacks a standard that bums like Phillip Rivers, Carson Palmer, Matthew Stafford and Joe Flacco never have to concern themselves with. If the standard for greatness is winning a Super Bowl then take Dan Marino and Jim Kelly out of the HOF. If the standard is a better win than loss record the shut up and apply that to everyone, and threaten everyone at the position who is “under performing”.

Same ish different day

October 25th, 2012
7:54 am

Clowns. What has Matt Ryan done?

A Fan

October 25th, 2012
8:11 am

Well Duh,
Is Vick a coack Killer. Yall wrote that article back around Mora’s time. What’s changed. Has he had the same coach for four years, ever?

and?

October 25th, 2012
8:11 am

The rivalry is mostly a media play to get someone to pay attention to their article

Esquire

October 25th, 2012
8:13 am

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Esquire

October 25th, 2012
8:14 am

Think Vick can hold on to a wet ball………………?

Esquire

October 25th, 2012
8:16 am

Strange DLed why you filter out his name.

Esquire

October 25th, 2012
8:18 am

Can Viceroy Ichiban Cooter Kooter hold on to a wet ball……?

FalconsFaninVR

October 25th, 2012
8:18 am

To the troll who asked what has Matt Ryan done. Compare Matts winning % and TD to INT ratio and Completion % to Vicks and you will see what hes done. #Idiot.

David

October 25th, 2012
8:23 am

When he was in Atlanta all he done was kill dogs and smoke dope.

Just Sayin.....

October 25th, 2012
8:25 am

Ryan lost both the offensive & defensive coordinators in one season.

Just Sayin…..

Just Sayin.....

October 25th, 2012
8:29 am

To be a coach killer, a player must be a better value than the coach, in the eye of the team owner. Did Jay Cutler get Shanahan fired? Did Manning get Tony Dungy’s replacemen fired? Did Brett Favre get the Minnesota coach fired? Did Tony Roma get Phillips fired?

Just Sayin…..

SeenThis B4

October 25th, 2012
8:30 am

GEAUX COACH KILLER!!!

Whisky Breath

October 25th, 2012
8:33 am

Yes, he is.

Philly can’t seem to figure out what’s wrong with their team, but we who follow the Falcons know all too well.

Vick is what’s wrong with your team, Philly fans……and he will be what’s wrong until you get rid of him, Andy Reid, or both.

SimpleDawg

October 25th, 2012
8:34 am

Mike “Coach Killer” Vick is a pox on whatever team he’s on…..

Still, one of the few players in the NFL who can single-handedly keep both teams in the game.

Just Sayin.....

October 25th, 2012
8:34 am

0-3 in the playoffs is a coach killer on winning organizations.

Just Sayin…..

Najeh Davenpoop

October 25th, 2012
8:39 am

Read the headline to this article very carefully, then go watch this clip from last night’s Colbert Report, and then come back and read the headline again. See if you can figure out why I linked that.

Najeh Davenpoop

October 25th, 2012
8:41 am

Does this blog automatically block all posts with links or something?

Boot

October 25th, 2012
8:42 am

Maybe we could trade Ryan for Vick.

I usually just read but...

October 25th, 2012
8:42 am

Sounds like Andy Reid is sweating like a poodle at MV’s house.

Boot

October 25th, 2012
8:44 am

Maybe we can trade Ryan for kciV.

Boot

October 25th, 2012
8:45 am

That’s hilarious, the Eagles quarterback is Lord Voldemort in Orlando’s world. He who must know be named.

NoleRick

October 25th, 2012
8:52 am

Oh how ironic would it be if Asante Samuel pick 6s Vick(say that 5 times fast), 2-3 times and Vick loses his job against his former team….that karma thing escapes no one!

Saints are #1

October 25th, 2012
8:55 am

We all know this. The Saints are going to be a Falcon killer.

SeenThis B4

October 25th, 2012
8:59 am

Remember when kciV shot the falcan’t fans his index finger? LOL!

Hope he does that to them again this Sunday, metaphorically speaking of course!

EW

October 25th, 2012
9:03 am

VERY POOR UNPROFESSIONAL CHOICE OF TITLE D. NOT AMUSED

Cleaveland Sux

October 25th, 2012
9:17 am

“Ron Mexico” is a diseased dog-killer. Let maiming justice fall upon him!

1998 Was Our Year

October 25th, 2012
9:19 am

Vick is not a coach killer, and I will give you some facts in his defense. Ok, the first coach fired, while Vick was playing as his Quarterback was Dan Reeves, and Dan Reeves was fired because he put in the then “Franchise Quarterback”, Micheal Vick in a Pre-Season game, and Vick’s received a season ending injury, and Dan Reeves and his coaching staff could not make the adjustments, which resulted in a dismal season for the Falcons, which resulted in Dan Reeves being fired. Dan Reeves was fired because he couldn’t make adjustments after loosing one player, and not due to Micheal Vick’s poor performance. Second case, Jim Mora Jr., Mora was not a good coach, he never had a good mix of plays, his play calling was vanilla, it was either run the ball or throw it to Crumpler, because our receivers can’t catch, which was true, but his coaching staff never tried anything different. Jim Mora Jr.’s plan for every game was “Ok recivers you can’t catch so block, running backs your’re average so block, Crumpler you’re good so you’ll get the ball every now and then, otherwise block, and Vick just do your magic”, lack of play calling. As for Andy Reid, he should have been fired when McNabb got traded, he has done nothing with the plethera of talent they had in Philly since he has been there, and his play calling over the years have been too conservative, in times when it should have been explosive, and the only other coaches, that I can think of that has done less with lots of talent, Norv Turner and Rex Ryan. Also, the reasons why Andy Ried is on the hot seat is that in 10+ yrs he has been there and loads of talent, he can’t produce a superbowl winning team, and the other reason is that Philly put him in a position to fail, because when you go out and spend all that money in free agency, and put absolutely no money in protecting your franchis e QB, you are doomed to fail.

Jamaaliver

October 25th, 2012
9:21 am

Mora got himself fired for lack of control in the locker room, and his comments on the radio about his ‘dream job’.

Reeves got fired because the game had passed him by, and because his poorly drafted team couldn’t perform when Vick was out injured.

Vick ain’t perfect, but his coaches have all had more than a few reasons to be let go. Andy Reid let his O-Line coach be in charge of the defense. Yet seemed suprised that his defense couldn’t hold leads late.

Judge Smails

October 25th, 2012
9:24 am

7 will be running for his life and will cough up the rock several times. 42-14 Falcons. Book it!

Saints are #1

October 25th, 2012
9:30 am

Why does DOL leave the 7 filter on when he know everyone will be talking about kciV and Saints. Uh, I Mean, Failclowns.

1998 Was Our Year

October 25th, 2012
9:30 am

1. Dan Reeves, Victim of circumstance
2. Jim Mora Jr., Lack of play calling
3. Andy Ried, Conservative play calling, and Philly’s poor bad investments in Free Agency

what of it?

October 25th, 2012
9:40 am

Absolutely, it was entirely Vick’s fault that Mora couldn’t control his emotions with the press or keep from saying dumb things. It’s also Vick’s fault that Mora continues to struggle with coaching UCLA in a relatively light-weight PAC-10. Clearly Andy Reid cannot help but make questionable challenges and horribly managed timeouts due to Vick’s efforts on the field. Let us not forget Vick’s part in single-handedly destroyed not just Reeves’ ‘98 superbowl bid but also his two with Elway and the Broncos in the 80’s. What else would explain losing with a future hall of fame quarterback. In fact, the league should expel Vick to prevent any further harm to its coaches.

JK

October 25th, 2012
9:43 am

Vick still making the same excuses. 13-0 after a bye? The blemish of 13-1 is coming. Vick will make sure of it.