Should the Falcons trade with Jax/London Jags for MJD?

 

 

Falcons running back Michael Turner emerges from the smoke and fire to take on the Ravens in Atlanta. Curtis Compton, ccompton@ajc.com

Falcons running back Michael Turner emerges from the smoke and fire to take on the Ravens in Atlanta. Curtis Compton, ccompton@ajc.com

 

 

FLOWERY BRANCH – It’s admission time.

Those recent tweets have been ignored because they don’t make good football sense.

But with the Maurice Jones-Drew and Shad Khan standoff boiling over in Jacksonville, posing the question is in order.

Turner doesn’t want a drastic cut in his carries.
Should the Falcons and the Jaguars swap out running backs? To some of you all, a Michael Turner-for- Jones-Drew trade makes some sense.

I received this tweet to @AJCFalcons from ‏@Andrewtuce:

“@AJCFalcons don’t u have to try and get Mjd if u r the falcons? We aren’t winning anything with broken m turner”

I received this tweet to @DorlandoLed from @EliotLehrman:

@DOrlandoLED Do YOU think we should trade for MJD? Let’s make some noise! MJD to ATL! #WWMJD We want MJD! #Falcons “

Jones-Drew has two years remaining on his contract with the Jacksonville-London Jaguars. (They have agreed to play one game for four years in London. Wonder if that’s a prelude to becoming the Los Angeles Jaguars. Google: Covered seats.)

The holdout is getting a little messy. Jones-Drew’s agent Adisa Bakari of Washington, D.C. is a standup guy and works with the media when teams are making concerted efforts to stop agents from talking to the press. But Jones-Drew received $21.8 million in the first year of the five year deal. He’s set to make $9.4 million over the next two years.

The shelf life for running backs is not very long and Jones-Drew has been heavily used in Jacksonville.

The trade would reunite the running backs with the coordinators that they have enjoyed a great deal of success with.

Jacksonville running back Maurice Jones-Drew practicing against the Falcons in Flowery Branch in 2010.  Curtis Compton/ccompton@ajc.com

Jacksonville running back Maurice Jones-Drew practicing against the Falcons in Flowery Branch in 2010. Curtis Compton/ccompton@ajc.com

Mike Mularkey called the plays in Atlanta that helped Turner rise from a backup to LaDainian Tomlinson to a Pro Bowler. As you all know, he’s the head coach for Jacksonville/London now.

Jones-Drew led the league in rushing last season and turned into a Pro Bowler with Dirk Koetter calling the plays for him. Of course, Koetter is now the offensive coordinator for the Falcons.

110801 Flowery Branch - Atlanta Falcons offensive coordinator Mike Mularkey signals to the offense while players run through the first padded practice at training camp in Flowery Branch on Monday, August 1, 2011.     Curtis Compton ccompton@ajc.com

110801 Flowery Branch - Former Falcons offensive coordinator Mike Mularkey signals to the offense while players ran through the first padded practice at training camp in Flowery Branch on Monday, August 1, 2011. Curtis Compton ccompton@ajc.com

Jones-Drew is 27. Turner turned 30 in February.

The case for keeping Turner is that the Falcons are 22-3 when he runs for more than 100 yards.

Turner has accounted for more than 1,450 yards in offense in three of the past four seasons. He’s gone to two Pro Bowls and made the All-Pro team after his mega-2008 season. Turner is still a weapon in a passing league.

With Koetter at the controls in Jacksonville, Jones-Drew led the league in carries with 343 in 2011. He was eighth in the league with 299 carries in 2010 and fifth with 312 carries in 2009.

Turner turned 30 on Feb. 13. Traditionally, turning 30 signals the end of the road for running backs.

However, Turner may be a little different because he was used sparingly as a reserve in San Diego. He had just 228 carries in four seasons with the Chargers.

Another reason why this trade doesn’t make sense is because in addition to Turner, the Falcons already have Jacquizz Rodgers, who will share the position with Turner and based on coach Mike Smith’s comments, will get a shot to win the fulltime job down the road.

Falcons offensive coordinator Dirk Koetter. (D. Orlando Ledbetter/DLedbetter@ajc.com)

Falcons offensive coordinator Dirk Koetter. (D. Orlando Ledbetter/DLedbetter@ajc.com)

 

Smith has repeatedly called Rodgers a three-down back.

Basically, the Falcons don’t have a need for a running back they already drafted.

Look for Jones-Drew to head back to Jacksonville soon, perhaps with the promise that the Jags will look more closely at an extension before next season.

That would be the win-win-win move for the Jags, MJD and the Falcons.

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104 comments Add your comment

jES

August 23rd, 2012
5:14 am

GDawg

August 23rd, 2012
5:40 am

No to MJD. Would rather have Quizz.

HighCountryFalcon

August 23rd, 2012
5:40 am

don’t know the Falcons cap situation, but if they can make it work with a new contract for Drew, I say yes!!!

Marcus

August 23rd, 2012
6:21 am

It doesn’t improve an area of need. Now, if we are last in the NFL in rushing after week 2, phones will be ringing if MJD isn’t signed by then. Of course, if Burner is burned out (by evidence of suddenly impotent Falcons rushing attack), we lose all trade leverage.

Greg

August 23rd, 2012
6:23 am

Turner never showed very quick feet, but as others have pointed out, in pre-season this year he has looked especially slow getting going out of the backfield, and his gains have been pretty pitiful. But I suspect he’ll be OK once the games start counting. (I’m worried more about the O-line than Turner.) I agree with GDawg: MJD would not add enough value, given his price tag, and given that we have Rodgers, who seems to be developing very nicely.

Rick

August 23rd, 2012
6:40 am

@Greg….his gains have been anything but pitiful…..I’m thinking somewhere between 12-15 lbs….over the past 3 months …very impressive

Me Too

August 23rd, 2012
7:12 am

The case for keeping Turner is that the Falcons are 22-3 when he runs for more than 100 yards.

This stat is NOT a case for keeping Turner. What has he done in the big games the Falcons needed to win and in playoff games????

Michael Turner should be benched for quarters 1, 2, and 3 of every game. He is done.

Eric

August 23rd, 2012
7:19 am

I don’t know, I stopped reading when I saw “the Jacksonville-London Jaguars.”

Joe Tess Fish House

August 23rd, 2012
7:35 am

N E thig 2 get a way from Tippy Toes Turner

GDawg

August 23rd, 2012
7:35 am

Would not be good for the team. We do not want a me first player surrounded by team players.

Good Grief

August 23rd, 2012
7:36 am

Apparently the Jags won’t trade MJD unless “blown away” by the offer. odds are, though, that they won’t get too great an offer for a running back in wht has become a pass happy league. A team could probably get MJD for some kind of conditional draft pick, maybe a 4th rounder that becomes a third if he takes more than 60% of the team’s running plays, a second if the team wins a playoff game, and a first if they win the super bowl…kinda like the deal that sent Favre to the Jets.

usually I just read but...

August 23rd, 2012
7:39 am

MJD is very good but he’s proly already had as much wear and tear on his body as Turner. IMHO they are reaching the end of their careers within the next cpl years at most. It would not be a major upgrade and proly eat into the already distressed cap situtation. Besides, I hate Jags, they are Gaytors with spots,

GDawg

August 23rd, 2012
7:39 am

Also we complain about Turner getting old at 30 MJD is 27 and has been the only one carrying the ball in JAX and Turner sat behind Tomilson for three years. So in two yeras you will be saying the same about MJD as you do about Turner, stay with the young players and don’t forget Snelling.

slydog

August 23rd, 2012
7:56 am

I see these comments: #1 No to MJD; I’d rather have Quizz (He is NOT A PROVEN RB in this league).
#2 It does not improve an area of need. (Let me play devil’s advocate. In a passing league, would you rather have Ray Rice, Leshawn McCoy, Chris Johnson, MJD, all PROVEN RB’s who can run between the tackles and catch, or keep 2 down Michael Turner, a stiff Jason Snelling, and an unproven mighty might named Jaquizz Rodgers? Use your BRAIN.)

Conclusion: If it can get done, then do it. It would be a Super Bowl move. Other than that, left tackle and linebacker are the only other trade options out there. Also, Tavares Jackson as a backup #2 isn’t a bad idea either.

D. Orlando Ledbetter

August 23rd, 2012
8:07 am

slydog — Nice post! T. Jack has had a long time to prove himself. He hasn’t done so in two stops. But as a backup, he might be OK.

D. Orlando Ledbetter

August 23rd, 2012
8:10 am

Eric — They are going to start regularly playing games in London, thus the Jacksonville/London Jags. Much like the Buffalo/Toronto Bills.

Curtis Lofton

August 23rd, 2012
8:14 am

Need a linebacker? Let’s talk, I miss you guys already!

Seen This B4

August 23rd, 2012
8:15 am

I doubt very much the jags would trade MJD for Turner. They aren’t stupid, even though they did hire your ex-boy, Mularkey.

They would probably trade MJD for JJ though.

That, is an offer they would listen to. But Michael Turner? LOL! Yeah right! Only falcan’t homers would conjure up the specter of such a lifeless trade. That’s akin to offerring to trade Ryan for Brees.

Formul8or

August 23rd, 2012
8:27 am

We’d have to give MJD a bigger, longer contract and then when he’s 30 we’ll be complaining about the same thing we do with Turner and he’ll still have a couple of years on his deal

Esquire

August 23rd, 2012
8:29 am

Reprinted without permission: “Jones-Drew, “loves being a Jaguar, but he wants to play for an organization that values him.”

Bull crap……….he wants MORE MONEY! The guy signs a 5 year contract then says I’m not gonna play unless you pay me more. That is representative of a man that doesn’t know what the word commitment means. He will pull the same with any team he goes too…….the Falcons don’t need the distraction that is MJD. And simply, the Falcons can’t afford him either. MJD is already the 9th highest paid running back in the NFL…………….this is about GREED.

tim

August 23rd, 2012
8:31 am

No.

the jags new owner should continue to show Drew that he’s an employee who won’t honor a contract.

Mike is Back

August 23rd, 2012
8:36 am

DLed, I would have to pass on MJD…in terms of feeling a need…sounds good though…Get me a linebacker.lol

KD

August 23rd, 2012
8:46 am

I am so tired of hearing “what has player X done in the playoffs”. What an illogical argument on multiple levels. That is as illogical as celebrating a player that has won a Super Bowl. For every outstanding player that has won a Super Bowl, there are 1000 others that didn’t contribute one thing, or played poorly, and have the same ring.
Football is a sport that is completely contingent on all of the moving parts complementing each other. There is not 1 quarterback, running back or wide receiver that has won a game solely by themselves. Not 1. That is virtually impossible. Brady plays well because he has time to throw and receivers that get open. Yes, he makes the right read, but if all the other parts don’t work, it doesn’t happen. Plus, Brady doesn’t play a single down of defense. What about that part of the game?
The statement that “Turner hasn’t done anything in the playoffs, so he should be released” is so shallow on so many levels. Do you really think that simply?
I agree that Turner has lost a step. But you simply cannot discount two things: 1st- Turner was 3rd in rushing last year in the entire NFL. His YPA is 4.5. He had the longest rush in all of football (81 yards) and was 7th in yards per game. 2nd-running backs- ALL OF THEM- are contingent on OL play. Don’t use the argument that a quicker back might find a hole. That’s illogical. Turner is a proven commodity that has 1-2 functional years left. Why exactly would we just release him? That makes absolutely no sense on any level.

Ackshun

August 23rd, 2012
8:50 am

Why would Atlanta want to get rid of Turner? He is a 1000 yard per season running back and really hasn’t showed sings of slowing despite horrible blocking last year. In addition long hold out have never been good for featured running backs. Your body has to be prepared to take that punishment and that starts in OTAs. With an extended holdout, MJD is just begging to blow out an ACL (see Jamal Anderson) and put his career in jeopardy. Plus right now the birds could probably get a real good deal on Shawne Merriman to try to do something about the Linebacker situation. SO I vote No. There are other more pressing needs.

Brandon

August 23rd, 2012
8:57 am

At first this seems to be a no-brainer. However, there is no way that the Jags would take a one-for-one swap. We’d have to give up some draft picks and we have to build some depth this year. Plus there is that whole year after over 300 carries curse to think about. Also, we’d have to extend him which I’m thinking we probably don’t want to do considering he’s so close to 30. If they would take Turner only I’d say consider it, but for the most part I’d say pass.

mountain_jim

August 23rd, 2012
9:00 am

I’m much more interested in trading for or locating more depth at LT.

GT GRAD

August 23rd, 2012
9:06 am

Yes Yes Yes!

Make sure you include Turner in whatever trade package………I like Turner as a person; however, it is past time to move on (get what you can for the guy………getting MJD would be a dream come true!!)

Will

August 23rd, 2012
9:13 am

Even my girlfriend thinks this is a good deal as she says, ” Turner just runs into people’s butts and falls down”

Sam

August 23rd, 2012
9:18 am

“The case for keeping Turner is that the Falcons are 22-3 when he runs for more than 100 yards.”

Turner rushed for slightly over 1300 yards last year. How many games did he rush for 100 yards last year? Heck, how many games has he rushed for 100 yards the last 2 years?

Turner isn’t quite “The Burner” anymore, either. I agree that Jones-Drew would replicate everything that Rodgers does, no point in having 2 smallish running backs, but at least it would inject some new blood into the system.

Another Rick

August 23rd, 2012
9:36 am

Seen only a scared Aint fan would suggest a trade of JJ for MJD! You scared! That pipe dream is as big as JJ ever playing for your Aints! JJ will kill your Aint defense this year…..as he put it “who you going to double”!

abby normal

August 23rd, 2012
9:49 am

Takes two to make a trade. No way the Jags would do a deal like this.

FalconsFan4Life

August 23rd, 2012
9:49 am

MJD? YESSSSSSSS! Turner appears to be done… He has “tip toed” and NOT hit the holes made for him for the past few years… MJD, Snelling, JaQuizz?!! What a nice combo…

Let’s get rid of Parker-Wilson and maybe Redman and go get Tavaris Jackson to back up Ryan… And we have certain LB depth issues…

I’m telling you Falcons, my 10 years plight as a SEASON TICKET HOLDER relies on us having a RESPECTABLE POST-SEASON!!!! Seriously… If we’re ONE and DONE again, my money will stay in my pocket next year!!

FalconsFan4Life

August 23rd, 2012
9:56 am

Sam Baker built like a T-REX… Big body, big head, super small midget arms… I just hope he’s healthy enough to protect Ryan’s blind side…

Paddy

August 23rd, 2012
9:59 am

O-line depth is more important now. End of camp cuts could get the Falcons a salary cap released player. Stick to the plan!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Peter Crawford

August 23rd, 2012
10:00 am

I do not want MJD. He has not lived up to his agreement with Jacksonville and that is just not right. Also Turner has been the Falcons Ace, their stalwart, their go to guy and unlike MJD Mr. Turner has shown that he is as good as his word. A fan favorite, a Pro-Bowl player, a team player, I wish to see Michael Turner retire an Atlanta Falcon with at least one Super Bowl ring!

Honestassessment

August 23rd, 2012
10:03 am

You all think that Turner is tipping?

DR. FALCON

August 23rd, 2012
10:13 am

HELL NO! I LOVE OUR RB SITUATION THE WAY IT IS! MJD, IS NOT IN FOOTBALL SHAPE! HE WILL PROBABLY GET HURT IN WEEK 6! THAT’S MULARKEY’S PROBLEM! LET HIM DEAL WITH A DISGRUNTLED RB! PAYBACK!!

PMC

August 23rd, 2012
10:16 am

Would love to have MJD, great player, but I don’t think we have the (responsible) trade bait really to get him. It’s a young mans league and he’s been in the league for a while, that’s part of the reason he’s trying to get paid. It would be silly to give up high draft picks after giving up so many the last couple of years. That’s the way teams like Washington and Dallas and Oakland run thier shop.

Love MJD, but we need to be more patient. Drafting well is important. We can’t afford MJD right now.

PMC

August 23rd, 2012
10:18 am

Honestly, I’m expecting Turner to have a very solid year this year. He’s been consitantly excellent for the last several years when the defense was keying on him. Even last year he was the workhorse.

Spreading out the carries is probably going to mean he starts slow, but I think he’s going to finish like a boss.

PMC

August 23rd, 2012
10:23 am

In other words I’m unconvinced that trading a ton for a RB is going to really put this team in to any better championship contention that it is already.

A stalwart left tackle an an offensive line that cannot be pushed backward would. MJD just makes a very solid group better, but it also would fool with team chemistry right before the season, it doesn’t always work out for the best these kinds of trades in real life.

Sam

August 23rd, 2012
10:31 am

PMC, I don’t think Ledbetter is talking about trading “a ton” for Jones-Drew. We wouldn’t be sending Turner, Ryan, and Julio Jones for Jones-Drew – it would be a straight-up swap of running backs.

Michael M.

August 23rd, 2012
10:32 am

Noooooooooooooooooo !

Keep Michael Turner and forget the MJD trade and worry about this issue after this season and besides Atlanta may find a better opportunity after this year for another RB……………………

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FalconsFan4Life

August 23rd, 2012
11:14 am

I definitely don’t think the Falcons should give up high draft picks for MJD… If a reasonable trade could happen, I would be happy… I’m sure the Falcons will hush us all up or increase the banter on the running game after the Dolphins game Friday…

I think we should be OKAY on the defense side (i.e. LB Corps)… With VanGorder GONE (thank SWEET BABY JESUS for DELIVERANCE!!!!!!!) and Nolan running defense we may move to the top 3 in defense by that move alone! I’m more concerned with the run game and the LEFT TACKLE spot… We have got to keep Ryan upright… No depth at QB, and suspect left tackle are my biggest concerns… I agree… Karma seems to have bitten Mularkey in the BOOTAY with MJD holding out and rightfully so… Pay that man his money!!!!!!!

OnTheOtherHand

August 23rd, 2012
11:29 am

Orlando, I would sincerely LOVE it, if everybody would STOP giving credit to Turner for the Falcons’ winning % “when he runs for more than 100 yards”. That is ludicrous. He runs for more than 100 yards when the Falcons are already LEADING and they can afford to give him 30+ carries to get that 100 yards. Falcons win, when they score more than the opposition… and ICING a game when you’re losing doesn’t work, so he doesn’t get all the carries so they lose. The jump from that “logic” to making it a winning tactic… is a long and dangerous chasm. Let go of that, please.

OnTheOtherHand

August 23rd, 2012
11:37 am

@SeenThisB4: I think you are in love with Drew Brees… now admit it. You just TINGLE with GP every time you gush about him. Get a room, you two love-birds.

True Falcon Fan

August 23rd, 2012
11:41 am

Makes sense — “WILL NOT HAPPEN”!

Go Falcons!

Michael M.

August 23rd, 2012
11:41 am

Saw article said five things Atlanta needs to do against the Dolphins to succeed, so here goes……………………………………………………………..

First…………………….. ” WIN ”

second…………………. ” WIN ”

third…………………….. ” WIN ”

fourth…………………… ” WIN ”

& five…………………… ” WIN “

Ruth

August 23rd, 2012
11:45 am

JAX/LONDON JAGS??? What a douchebag.

Loyalfalconfrmthemississippi

August 23rd, 2012
12:12 pm

First no way in he double hockey sticks would i pick up tarvaris jackson, let dominique davis have his chance as he has proven he deserves it two turner may be getting old but we still have snelling and whether u wanna believe in him or not i believe quizz can be a three down back and to be perfectly honest i wouldnt want a player whos not a team player play out ur contract and move on u make millions not to mention we couldnt afford mjd if we wanted him unless u wanna beeven more restricted in cap no let turner play out his contract and draft a top rookie if u dont believe in quizz