Atlanta Falcons: How good can White-Jones duo be?

Matt Ryan (from left) talks to wide receivers Roddy White and Julio Jones during a recent training camp practice iat Flowery Branch.  CURTIS COMPTON / CCOMPTON@AJC.COM

Matt Ryan (from left) talks to wide receivers Roddy White and Julio Jones during a recent training camp practice at Flowery Branch. CURTIS COMPTON / CCOMPTON@AJC.COM

Vivlamore reporting on Falcons.

The Falcons are off today but tomorrow I will talk to receivers Roddy White and Julio Jones for a story to run Thursday online/Friday print.

I’m wondering if White and Jones have the potential to be among the greatest wide receiver duos in NFL history and need your help. Below is a list of some of the greatest tandems that I have put together. Let me know what you think. Did I leave a duo out? Have a pair ranked too high or too low?

May they one day be up there with John Stallworth and Lynn Swann, Steelers greats from 1974-82? We posed that question to Falcons quarterback Matt Ryan earlier in training camp.

“We have to win some Super Bowls before we can get compared to those two guys,” Ryan said. “But I think we can be really good. Really, very good. The two of them together are extremely unselfish. They just want to win and want to make plays. They push each other to get better. I think it’s a unique relationship that they have.  I think they can be as good as anybody in the league.”

Here is my preliminary list:

1. John Stallworth/Lynn Swann, Steelers

2. Jerry Rice/John Taylor, 49ers

3. Mark Duper/Mark Clayton, Dolphins

4. Isaac Bruce/Torry Holt, Rams

5. Marvin Harrison/Reggie Wayne, Colts

6. Cliff Branch/Fred Biletnikoff, Raiders

7. Drew Pearson/Tony Hill, Cowboys

8. Art Monk/Gary Clark, Redskins

9. Cris Carter/Randy Moss, Vikings

10. Larry Fitzgerald/Anquan Boldin, Cardinals

Honorable mentions: Andre Reed/James Lofton, Bills; Jimmy Smith/Keenan McCardell, Jaguars; Eric Metcalf/Terance Mathis, Falcons

Jeff Schultz has already weighed in. He says Duper/Clayton are too high and Branch/Bilitnekoff are too low.

Let me know what you think and we will “refine.”

- Chris Vivlamore

142 comments Add your comment

Falconlover

August 1st, 2012
12:01 pm

SeenThisBFalcon

August 1st, 2012
12:01 pm

1st….YES!!!!! YES!!!! YES!!!!! THEY CAN!!!!!!

Falconlover

August 1st, 2012
12:01 pm

Sorry that was very imature

SeenThisBDummy

August 1st, 2012
12:05 pm

What a great combo !!!!!!

Falconlover

August 1st, 2012
12:05 pm

But anyway dont you think this is just a little too soon soon for the comparisons and by the way roddy is 30 or 31 and julio is in his early 20’s so i dont see them being in there prime together anyway

Falconlover

August 1st, 2012
12:08 pm

Just my opinon……. but if they can be the best in the nfc south that would be good as h@!%

DB

August 1st, 2012
12:08 pm

Michael Irvin and Alvin Harper- Dallas Cowboys

miggity

August 1st, 2012
12:10 pm

j smith and k mccardell…are you kidding me??

DB

August 1st, 2012
12:11 pm

Roddy White will slowly shift into a #2 receiver over the season and will be the best number 2 for the next couple of years

Chris Vivlamore

August 1st, 2012
12:18 pm

Falconlover: Not saying White-Jones are there or will be there, just discussing their potential. The list is just a companion.

Chris Vivlamore

August 1st, 2012
12:19 pm

miggity: Put them as honorable mention because the combined for nearly 1,100 catches and for four seasons both had 1,000-yard seasons together.

Chris Vivlamore

August 1st, 2012
12:20 pm

Seen This B4: Any Saints duo that should be on the list?

miggity

August 1st, 2012
12:22 pm

touch Chris. touche.

Nowwehaveasecondary!

August 1st, 2012
12:22 pm

Your honorable mention list about the Falcons is only half right. It should have been Tony Martin/Terrance Mathis, aka the M & M Boys. Remember 98!

Chris Vivlamore

August 1st, 2012
12:27 pm

Nowwehaveasecondary!: Thanks. I will go look up their numbers together.

Nate in SLC

August 1st, 2012
12:29 pm

Rice and Taylor have to be number one. White/Jones won’t have the longevity to be among the best ever, but this year and next they could put together combined numbers to rival almost anybody.

All the Falcons need to do now is trade for Austin Collie at the slot position and Dennis Pitta to groom for stardom after Tony Gonzalez retires next season! Haha.

PMC

August 1st, 2012
12:30 pm

Depends on how well the line protects really. There’s no reason both of those guys can’t have 10 TD’s or more.

Paddy

August 1st, 2012
12:30 pm

Chris…….Paul Wafield and Gary Collins of the Browns need to be on that list.

Paddy

August 1st, 2012
12:31 pm

Paul Warfield!!!!!!!!

Chris Vivlamore

August 1st, 2012
12:31 pm

Nate is SLC: Schultz made that argument as well. I figured it was just because he covered Rice and Taylor!

Chris Vivlamore

August 1st, 2012
12:32 pm

Paddy: I’ll run that one by Clevelander D. Orlando Ledbetter.

Mikefalcon63

August 1st, 2012
12:34 pm

I think the Carter/Moss comparison may be the closest from a talent perspective. But I think Roddy and Julio will play more years together and have more combined catches/td’s than Moss/Carter

Northern Bird

August 1st, 2012
12:36 pm

How about Steve Largent and Daryl Turner ?

I think Chris Carter and Randy Moss are rated too low. I know they didn’t have a long time together, but the time they did have was crazy. Our Falcons killed their big year in 98 with the vikings !

PMC

August 1st, 2012
12:37 pm

I don’t understand by what metric Stallworth and Swann are #1. They aren’t even remotely as productive as Harrison and Wayne and Rice/Taylor won as many SB’s did they not?

The Steelers were a defensive/running team. Bruce/Holt are better than rated as are Bilitnikoff/Branch

Carter/Moss should be higher too.

Chris Vivlamore

August 1st, 2012
12:39 pm

Northern Bird: Yeah, I thought hard about Carter and Moss. They only played four years together.

PMC

August 1st, 2012
12:40 pm

Swann is in the HOF because of big catches but Franco Harris made the best catch in Steelers History before the Holmes catch to win the SB.

I can’t wrap my head around Stallworth/Swann at #1 on this list. I don’t get it.

Chris Vivlamore

August 1st, 2012
12:40 pm

PMC: Stallworth and Swann are both in the Hall of Fame.That was my thinking.

Nowwehaveasecondary!

August 1st, 2012
12:44 pm

Unfortunately for the Falcons, the M & M Boys tandem was short lived because Tony Martin faced federal money laundering charges before the start of the next season. The Falcons got scared and let him go. He was acquitted of the charges and played several seasons later for the Falcons again, but he was older (mid 30s) and had diminished skills then.

True ATL Fan

August 1st, 2012
12:44 pm

No way you can leave off Irvin and Harper. And I agree, replace Metcalf with Tony Martin. Smith and McCardell were beasts when the Jags first came into the league.

javon

August 1st, 2012
12:45 pm

Larry Fitzgerald & Anquan Boldin are ranked too low. At least, top 6 but right at 10 is just disrespectful definitely for a franchise that did pretty much nothing until they got there.

PMC

August 1st, 2012
12:48 pm

Ok Chris, I understand from that perspective, I just think they get a huge bump in that area for being Steelers.

I don’t think of those two as being a highly productive duo, just really good when it counted.

Chris Vivlamore

August 1st, 2012
12:55 pm

True ATL Fan: I will go back and look at those numbers.

Larry

August 1st, 2012
12:59 pm

For the Falcons, I’ll take Alfred Jackon and Alfred Jenkins from 1980, thank you!

Swan and Stallworth are the best ever.

Birdman of Falcatraz

August 1st, 2012
12:59 pm

If Roddy were closer to the start of his career than the end then I would say absolutely. It seems like just a Julio will reach his prime in a year or two more, Roddy may be on the decline. If you take their careers independently they should eventually stack up nicely, but concurrently there wont be a big enough sample size.

Larry

August 1st, 2012
1:00 pm

White and Jones both drop too many catchable balls–especilly Roddy–to be in an elite discussion.

SirReal

August 1st, 2012
1:43 pm

Chris, I agree with your list. I was thinking about Tim Brown of the Raiders but he never really had a true compliment for an extended period of time. Sad…he was a great wideout.

WooYeah

August 1st, 2012
1:44 pm

WHOA! Easy there, fella…

Let’s see how they actually perform, before we start putting them into this conversation.

The greatest performed year in, year out. White and Jones have to yet string together a dual 1000 yard season.

While prognosticating is fun, performance is what matters.

WooYeah

August 1st, 2012
1:44 pm

WHOA! Easy there, fella…

Let’s see how they actually perform, before we start putting them into this conversation.

The greatest performed year in, year out. White and Jones have to yet string together a dual 1000 yard season.

While prognosticating is fun, performance is what matters.

Dawg-gone(a win)

August 1st, 2012
1:44 pm

How about Fred Gibson and Terrance Edwards…oh wait.

WooYeah

August 1st, 2012
1:45 pm

WHOA! Easy there, Chris…

Let’s see how they actually perform, before we start putting them into this conversation.

The greatest performed year in, year out. White and Jones have to yet string together a dual 1000 yard season.

While prognosticating is fun, performance is what matters.

Brian Hunt

August 1st, 2012
1:45 pm

Stallworth and Swann are definitely ranked too high.

SeenThis B4

August 1st, 2012
1:46 pm

Larry beat me to the question, but how can you be serious to consider them among the greatest wide receiver NFL tandems, when one of them leads the NFL in drops? Nawh, you just need to forget about publishing that storyline, unless of course, you WANT to publish fictional sports accounts.

Sam

August 1st, 2012
1:49 pm

Larry, don’t forget to throw Wallace Francis in there too.

Wink

August 1st, 2012
1:49 pm

Can we add Plaxico Burress to the mix…plz! He is a free agent and willing to be a back up to Roddy & Julio. Would be excellent size for the Red Zone….a high upgraded Finneran.

FalconsFan284

August 1st, 2012
1:52 pm

Given the age of Roddy White I think they have a chance to be as good as Jerry Rice/Terrell Owens. The timing seems to be very familiar to what San Fran did but Jones could have more potential than Owens.

Shady

August 1st, 2012
1:55 pm

Alred Jenkins & Wallace Francis, duh

newkid

August 1st, 2012
1:57 pm

As you prepare your piece, suggest you give some attention to who threw the ball to the pairs you’ve mentioned (e.g., Bradshaw, Montana, Marino), and the offensive schemes they ran. Put Bradshaw, Montana or Marino with White & Jones, and maybe you’ve got a topic worthy of debate. White and Jones might just be much more limited by the thrower than by their own limitations.

backatcha

August 1st, 2012
2:04 pm

Michael Irvin / Alvin Harper should be mentioned! SeenThisB4, I can understand your frustration. Our teams seem to never fail to disappoint. However, if Roddy would cut back on the drops (especially the critical ones that would win us the game oh yeah and by the way STAY OFF TWEETER) and with Julio having a full year under his belt, I believe we might have something special in the Atl.

Die Hard Falcon

August 1st, 2012
2:06 pm

I would definitely put Rice/Taylor as #1, I agree w/ many that Stallworth/Swann are too high, I get the 4 SB’s and the HOF nods, but still it was more so the curtain and the running game.

I really hope the Julio and Roddy can have 3 or 4 productive seasons together, it’s too bad Julio didn’t come out 1 or 2 years earlier, if they had 5 or 6 seasons together, I think at the end they’d be high on this list.

Go Falcons!

WhosTerryHolt?

August 1st, 2012
2:16 pm

Tory Holt ***