Are the Falcons ready to show Brent Grimes the money?
Cornerback Brent Grimes is set to make $10.281 million in 2012, but reportedly would like a long-term deal. (Curtis Compton ccompton@ajc.com)
BIRDLAND – As July 16 approaches and the Saints seem to be bungling a new deal for quarterback Drew Brees, I’ve been getting a lot of questions – via the comment page and twitter.com – about Falcons cornerback Brent Grimes.
Best I can tell, all is quiet on the Grimes’ front. We reached out to his people this week and haven’t heard back from them on or off the record yet. Usually, they are very good about keeping us in the loop, but this is the slow period for everyone.
Smitty is off getting ready to play some golf at Lake Tahoe. Dimitroff is likely cruising around a bike trail somewhere. Roddy White hasn’t even gotten into a Tweet-fight recently as he’s been mourning the move of Ray Allen from his beloved Celtics to the Miami Heat. Reggie Roberts, the Falcons VP PR man, is somewhere hiding out. (He’s dodging me. I think he’s scared to play our annual skins golf match. He clearly doesn’t want ANY this year! Hate to call him out in public, but sometimes drastic times call for drastic measures.)
Here’s what we know about the Grimes situation:
Brees and Grimes are not in the same situation.
BREES is an “exclusive” franchise player – not free to sign with another club – is offered the greater of (i) the average of the top five salaries at the player’s position for the current year as of the end of the Restricted Free Agent Signing Period on April 20; or (ii) the amount of the Required Tender for a non-exclusive franchise player.
GRIMES signed a non-exclusive franchise tender which will pay him $10.281 million this season. From the new collective bargaining agreement: “The Nonexclusive Franchise Tender shall be a one year NFL Player Contract for (A) the average of the five largest Prior Year Salaries for players at the position . . . at which the Franchise Player participated in the most plays [formerly, “games”] during the prior League Year, which average shall be calculated by: (1) summing the amounts of the Franchise Tags for players at that position for the five preceding League Years; (2) dividing the resulting amount by the sum of the Salary Caps for the five preceding League Years . . . ; and (3) multiplying the resulting percentage by the Salary Cap for the upcoming League Year . . . (the “Cap Percentage Average”) . . . ; or (B) 120% of his Prior Year Salary, whichever is greater.”
All of that legalese means, as best I can tell, is the that the exclusive tag ends up with a higher salary than the non-exclusive tag. Also, there is no transition player tag under the new CBA.
Also, the Falcons are too tight up against the cap right now to do a major deal. Because of that, it’s reasonable to conclude that they want Grimes to play under the tag and they’ll revisit extension talks during the upcoming season.
In the past, Dimitroff has taken care of some players they wanted to keep in-season: (Jonathan Babineaux, Michael Jenkins and Tony Gonzalez last year.)
The Falcons only have $2,834,837, fourth lowest in the league, under the cap, according to the NFL. They appear contractually land-locked for the season. That’s just enough room to add on two players at the veteran minimum late in training camp.
We haven’t heard from Grimes since he signed his tender shortly after the Falcons made the move to get Asante Samuel. He told us that he’d get his side of the story out.
San Francisco safety Dashon Golden came out on SiriusNFLradio and said he’s ready to play 2012 under his tender.
“All these one-year/one-year (contracts) is not what any player would want. We know what we put our bodies through and what we do for our teams. But it’s all good. There’s no love lost or anything like that. I just hope something will get done. If not, I’ll still be a 49er.”
But sometimes these franchise tag deals can get messy.
The normally mild-mannered and businesslike Dunta Robinson had a major franchise tag blowup when he was in Houston. He held out before signing the tender and then wrote “Pay Me, Rick” on his shoes. He was referring to Houston general manager Rick Smith, who tagged Robinson.
Also, there was Logan Mankins’ dealings with New England in 2010 under the former CBA.
We don’t know what caused the Grimes’ camp to flip flop. In early March, they had no plans to sign the tag. Then in late April, Grimes signed the tender.
The Grimes camp appears set to play under the tag, while hoping to iron out a long-term deal.
–D. Orlando Ledbetter, The Atlanta Falcons beat blog
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Scott Carasik
July 12th, 2012
8:51 am
It seems like both sides know that a deal will get done. And for Grimes this is more money in one season than he has ever gotten in his career. However, it’d be very easy for the Falcons to give him a first year cap hit at the Franchise # and still give him a big deal this year.
Chub Rock
July 12th, 2012
8:53 am
Would they not actually free up initial space if they signed him to a long term deal in the form of signing bonus? I don’t expect Grimes will get a long term deal before the deadline though. My sources tell me(via Twitter rant) he was asked to play one more year before a deal could be offered. For some reason it seems like league wide teams are not really interested in signing their tagged players. Grimey has earned his IMO. However his asking price may be too high. Dunta is the one robbing the Branch blind.
London Falcons
July 12th, 2012
8:54 am
Pay the man!
tom
July 12th, 2012
9:04 am
Show him the money? Hell no. Show him the door. Not worth keeping.
Chub Rock
July 12th, 2012
9:12 am
When I hear people say, well the player is making more this year than he has made in his career, I wonder. What if Brent Grimes goes out in game 1 and shreds his knee up, will the Falcons still want to sign him long term at current market value? If not, the argument that he will make more this year than in his career is worthless. For those who have never participated, it’s about security and not the amount one can make in one year.
RobbE33
July 12th, 2012
9:18 am
I understand there’s no injury protection in franchise tags? Is that correct for both exclusive and non-exclusive tags?
I’m glad Optimus has the patience and trust in his organization to eventually give him his due.
SeenThisB4
July 12th, 2012
9:20 am
Nice dig at the Saints DLed, “bungling a new deal for quarterback Drew Brees”. But it’s more like wishful fiction on your part.
Formul8or
July 12th, 2012
9:23 am
If Grimes goes out and shreds his knee in the first game, then the Falcons did the right thing.
I care more about the team than a player
D. Orlando Ledbetter
July 12th, 2012
9:28 am
SeenThisB4 – Was thinking about the report that they are $10 million apart on guaranteed money. That’s a lot. http://www.mercurynews.com/ci_21055801/ap-source-saints-brees-apart-guaranteed-money
D. Orlando Ledbetter
July 12th, 2012
9:29 am
Chubb Rock — Good points. He also bascially been on year-to-year deals since they signed him out of The Shipp!
Chub Rock
July 12th, 2012
9:29 am
That kind of player approach gets you left looking stupid when big time FA are up for grabs. It’s the organization that deals with the players not a fan. Some fans are too stupid to even know whats good for the team anyway.
PMC
July 12th, 2012
9:31 am
I don’t think the Falcons are thinking of Grimes as a long term player otherwise they could have paid him last season.
The least he’s going to take is around 7.5 a season I’d think + bonuses. It’s probably smarter buisiness to have him play under the Franchise tag this year for the Falcons and consider letting him walk or paying him next year.
PMC
July 12th, 2012
9:34 am
10 million is a fair amount for both sides this season give the excellent level of Grimes play, but I do feel bad for him a bit that he’s vastly out played his contracts in most seasons and he probably won’t get a huge payday other than this 10 million, but hey it’s still 10 million dollars.
He’s proven himself to be one of the better corners in the league and he’s not even 6 feet tall.
D. Orlando Ledbetter
July 12th, 2012
9:34 am
Chubb Rock — They could work some magic with the numbers. His number would be lowered from the $10.281 hit that’s on the books right now. They could spread the bonus out over the term of the deal. But there are a lot of guys coming up next year that they have to make decisions on. Without looking up the contracts, I know Baker and Moore are up. This will be Ryan’s fifth year on the initial six-year deal, so he’s in line for an extension next season. A lot of moving parts on Nick Polk’s desk right now.
PMC
July 12th, 2012
9:35 am
For the record, he gets all of the 10 million dollars under the franchise tag no matter what as long as he shows up for work.
SeenThisB4
July 12th, 2012
9:37 am
DLed: “$10 million apart on guaranteed money” indicates that they have agreed on the total amount, just need to agree on the adjectives regarding part of it. It’s all in perspective. You say “bungle”, I say “almost done!”
PMC
July 12th, 2012
9:40 am
Honestly, I’m not worried about Matt Ryan right now. He’s got a lot to prove this year and next year.
He’s got to prove he can win in the playoffs before we can say he’s worthy of the 100+ million he’s going to be asking for.
Baker is gone no matter what. Moore also is left with with a lot to prove. Can he stay healthy? Good player, but is he going to be available all the time?
PMC
July 12th, 2012
9:41 am
The Brees deal will be done by Monday but not before I don’t think. It would be inconceivable for that not to happen.
Bullseye
July 12th, 2012
9:42 am
SB4 already in with two comments. Man wakes up with nothing but Atlanta Falcons on his mind.
jay
July 12th, 2012
9:45 am
Don’t know why he flip-flopped? I’m sure it had nothing to do with the trade….
SeenThisB4
July 12th, 2012
9:46 am
@Bullseye: My two comments were regarding my team. Kinda blows a hole in your comment.
Bullseye
July 12th, 2012
9:51 am
B4…ON A FALCONS BLOG….idiot.
PMC
July 12th, 2012
9:57 am
I think with those comments last night Matt Stafford is the new peoples champion.
Brees was likeable but not really after this negociation. He’s shown himself to be quite the Dbag publically over the last year. It is what it is. Great QB, big time whiner.
mountain_jim
July 12th, 2012
10:09 am
Cutting a certain LT after he (likely) still shows little in Camp could add some cap room, right?
Chub Rock
July 12th, 2012
10:10 am
Yea D, Moore is definitely one they will want to secure IMO. Baker not so sure Lol. My comment about the approach to players was directed at those who say if Grimes sheds his knee then not giving him a long term deal was the right thing. Dumb logic and you can’t handle your business like that lol. You better draft perfect because FA’s won’t come to Atl with that wack approach. You get a reputation as an organization when you treat players a certain way. Most people look at 10 mill for 1 year and say heck I would do anything for that until you start to see what other guys at your level are making…leave your pay rate out of this equation LOL. If the Falcons don’t pay Grimes somebody else will. Asante is a great pickup but he ain’t no spring chicken now and Dunta well he’s Dunta, living the dream of big pay for little performance. Grimes is 28 yrs old and the best long term option this team has. I personally don’t know what Grimes is asking in terms of money so I won’t pretend on the blog.
just sayin'
July 12th, 2012
10:11 am
so, when an opposing player tries to get the money he deserves (for playing a game) he’s a ‘whiner’..but when a local player does the same, he’s ‘negotiating’….go figure..
Chub Rock
July 12th, 2012
10:11 am
Wow, post just got eaten? LOL. I’m out.
Chub Rock
July 12th, 2012
10:13 am
Nothing quite like typing up a long post then having it savaged be the AJC post eater.
SeenThisB4
July 12th, 2012
10:14 am
@Bullseye: I was responding directly, both times, to DLed, your blogger, who was talking about my team, ON A FALCONS BLOG! Get over it, you don’t own this blog, and your team doesn’t play just itself during the season.
Chub Rock
July 12th, 2012
10:16 am
Preciate you response D. Peace bruh.
bo joe ellis
July 12th, 2012
10:17 am
Pay the man..Show him the money…Hell no! Show him the door!
Bullseye
July 12th, 2012
10:19 am
No problem B4. I was only making a comment about you loving the Falcons so much from afar, that you are here first thing in the morning everyday. Keeping the love flowing like we’ve never seen B 4.
SeenThisB4
July 12th, 2012
10:20 am
I did notice that Brees didn’t thank the Saints during his acceptance speech last night at the ESPYS, he did thank all the players by name, some of the coaches, his fans, wife, kids and soon to arrive kid, and even the equipment managers, but not Benson or Loomis? LOL! He was getting long winded anyway. He also hung his head when the “special fund” was mentioned to get him signed. The team was part of the “Best Game” award; you all gotta admit, that was a helleva game!
Pop quiz: What team was never once mentioned last night? NOT ONCE?!
Seen (scandal) This (Taint the Saints) B4
July 12th, 2012
11:01 am
I missed the ESPYs…did Brees have anything to say about player safety? I remember how vocal he was against the proposed 18 game schedule. He must have used last night’s forum to similarly denounce the bounty program his former DC admitted to, since he (Brees) is such a big advocate of all players and an NFLPA Leader
This Gets Old
July 12th, 2012
11:04 am
Pop quiz: What team was never once mentioned last night? NOT ONCE?
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EVERYONE, please stop answering this troll. He comes here and tries to turn a Falcon blog into a Saints blog. If you guys want to talk Saints football then accompany him to a Saints blog. Everywhere we try and talk Falcon football Saints fans show up. They’re a borderline criminal organization. The team and its fans have no respect for the game, the rules of the game (and with their drug thefts, no respect for the rules of the nation) or for themselves. Let them go……to a Saints blog.
Painkillers, Bounties, Wire Tapping...my oh my
July 12th, 2012
11:09 am
Fair enough…I just hope that someday, in my lifetime, the Falcons win a Super Bowl. Then, the year after they win it, I hope their coach doesn’t get in trouble for stealing painkillers…and I hope they don’t lose to a below .500 team in the playoffs in the following season…and I hope they don’t lose yet again in the first game of the playoffs 2 seasons after winning it…and of course I really hope they don’t implement a bounty system, nor have a self-righteous and arrogant QB who won’t fess up to it…
Jeff B
July 12th, 2012
11:37 am
I say let’s sign Grimes to an extension. If anything, it gives us the freedom to let Dunta go in a year or two if he doesn’t impress.
Barry
July 12th, 2012
11:37 am
Hey Y”all:
I believe the Grimes camp is being fair in accepting the one year tender based on the fact Grimes injured his knee last year. Questions remain about can he play at the high level as he did before the injury. He has to prove that on the field then more money is coming. Grimes is great and I am looking forward to him playing with the same vigor and tenacity. And when he does, its “SHOW ME THE MONEY” time. This should be fun watching him show out getting there. SHOW OUT, GRIMES!! SHOW OUT, IN “ONE HEARTBEAT!!!”.
GO GRIMES!
GO FALCONS!
“FALCONS RISE UP!!” IN “ONE HEARTBEAT!!” THUMP!!!!
$$SSSSSSSSSSSSSSHHHHHHHH!!!
This is a SECRET from a FALCON FAN. TELL EVERYBODY!!!
………………….”ONE HEARTBEAT,BABY!!”……..
Rick
July 12th, 2012
11:45 am
Looks like you are just like the Aints management “Seen” making excuses as why YOUR Team will not pay the best player in the team and one of the best In the game. TRAGIC! Sounds to me like a hot pot of gumbo. Throw alot of stuff in it and say its good food. Like they doing the contract, throwing alot of stuff in and tell Drew its good for him. AINTS BLOW!
Chance
July 12th, 2012
11:51 am
Hey Dled if they make a deal with grimes wouldn’t it free up the 10 mil that he is getting with the tender? So they would have about 13 mill – whatever they pay him in the contract
SeenThisB4
July 12th, 2012
12:07 pm
@Rick: Brees is one of the best in the game. Glad you agree.
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JSS
July 12th, 2012
12:24 pm
@ Ledbetter…
Like I said to you when Grimes finally came up for an extension that the bargain he had been should have been accounted for… Here’s the problem, they whiffed badly on almost every other DB (Moore is a question because he must stay on the field)… That DeCoud deal is even more baffling in that light… However, they are stuck with it now… Grimes is a long-term investment, that balloon-payment (in essence, the raise) is just an extension of that point… He should have been locked up two years ago… The hard cap strikes again!
Bravesfan79
July 12th, 2012
12:26 pm
Grimes is one of my favorite players on the Falcons, and we need everyone to play with the same passion and reckless abandon that he plays with. The 10 mill/ 1 year deal is great for him, and he was smart to sign it and not drag it out like a pre-madonna would do like Dwight Howard.
Big Ray
July 12th, 2012
12:26 pm
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/new-orleans-saints-drew-brees-apart-on-guaranteed-money-071112
Running out of time……and that’s why you’re talking so much about it.
JSS
July 12th, 2012
12:29 pm
Ha ha, you people crack me up calling Seen This Before 4 a “troll!” You fools go from blog to blog calling him out… Then you try to say “he’s the problem.” You live for this… Laughs keep coming, and the lies keep flowing! This blog is like the Nixon White House, y’all and your “Enemies List!” Scary stuff!
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Bucky Badger
July 12th, 2012
12:36 pm
Biking & Golfing, sounds like Falcons Management is really concerned about the status of their Team. The Falcons are “Business as Usual” while the lowly Aints are Crashing & Burning! Thanks DOL for the read. Seen/Hiram = Lowlifes!
Rick
July 12th, 2012
12:38 pm
Not the best that title belongs to Aaron Rodgers (as stated by ESPN Top quarterbacks and I agree) Brees is second best and I dont have a problem saying it. I give props where they are due, not like you woeful AINT fans. But as I see you dont address the real issue! That being, an unhappy QB who is being treated like a sucker. Come on AINTS. hehehehehe. Like I said spent to much on the bounty money and you dont want to pay the man. Here is the kicker! Becasue you did not pay him when you were supposed to you have to really pay him now which means that you guys will be looking at more cuts by next year which will deplete this team even worse, which means get your paper bags!!!! Not good having one of the best if he does not have weapons around him. And to that I am gone!
Rick
July 12th, 2012
12:41 pm
Never had a problem saying he is one of the best “Seen” I recognize talent and say as such. Just like I recognize the Falcons are loaded……….come on cha cha. The real problem is that you dont want to pay him……..simple! Pay the man, stop holding back!! Here is the kicker, when you do pay him you wont be able to pay others around him because the AINTS have really made this a hot mess. Waited to long and now you have to gut the team to pay the man. Get your paperbags ready, looks like old times are coming back……….hehehehehehe
AlanFalcon
July 12th, 2012
12:44 pm
1st, lets see which CB gets thrown at the most and 2nd, lets see if Grimes plays the year without screaming injury- This year will tell us a lot about his make up and desire to be one of the best that he so wants to be recognized as.
Big Ray
July 12th, 2012
12:46 pm
EVERYONE, please stop answering this troll. He comes here and tries to turn a Falcon blog into a Saints blog. If you guys want to talk Saints football then accompany him to a Saints blog. Everywhere we try and talk Falcon football Saints fans show up. They’re a borderline criminal organization. The team and its fans have no respect for the game, the rules of the game (and with their drug thefts, no respect for the rules of the nation) or for themselves. Let them go……to a Saints blog.
It’s alright. Let’s see them hang around when we whoop that a$$ this year…with or without the presence of Mr. Brees…..then they can talk all they want…but they won’t….
Big Ray
July 12th, 2012
12:48 pm
Ha ha, you people crack me up calling Seen This Before 4 a “troll!” You fools go from blog to blog calling him out… Then you try to say “he’s the problem.” You live for this… Laughs keep coming, and the lies keep flowing! This blog is like the Nixon White House, y’all and your “Enemies List!” Scary stuff!
You’re right. He’s not a troll. You are. Because you live to bash the Falcons, and the fans. Go find a bridge and some billy goats to terrorize….you’re an obsolete fairy tale…
Rick
July 12th, 2012
12:57 pm
We take care of talent and when Grimes helps makes this secondary one of the scariest in the NFL this year he will be able to set his price and get paid. I have no doubt about that! I think with Asante being in the fold we will get a chance to see how good Robinson is playing on the inside and wrecking havoc with big hits. This defense will be scary this year and we will make much noise on the D side of the ball!
mad-catfish
July 12th, 2012
1:21 pm
@Rick: You know where your reasoning on the Saints CAP space falls completely apart? (Which is par for you.) When you figure out that your team’s CAP space is about the same where the Saints CAP space is. Yet you don’t have a Drew Brees to sign. But currently, you haven’t signed Grimes to a long term contract cause you don’t have the CAP space. Reason that one out.
DLed notes that Brees and Grimes aren’t in the same boat, but the funny thing is, that come next Monday evening, it’s Brees who will have a long term contract, and Grimes who won’t.
SeenThisB4
July 12th, 2012
1:25 pm
Your defense won’t be scary to Brees. He’ll dissect it like he did last year, probably set another single season passing record on your defense again this year.
Bucky Badger
July 12th, 2012
1:41 pm
Seen…zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!
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Rick
July 12th, 2012
2:17 pm
Catfish go get caught! Take note that our GM had a back up plan and we got Samuels and we can drop dead weight on the roster plus we have Gonzalez contract coming off the books next year so signing Grimes wont be a problem. He can play under the Franchise and prove he deserves long term, so your wack statement does not stick. But your GM has a back up plan, Chase Daniels.. hehhhehe I typed that with a straight face! Lol.
Rick
July 12th, 2012
2:18 pm
Seen is he signed yet?
Rick
July 12th, 2012
2:24 pm
And another thing at least Grimes is guaranteed to be in camp. You holding out HOPE that you have a deal by Monday. And remember you had to let go one of the best guards in the NFL just so you could continue to diss Drew about money. Hows that for logic? I am not a cap specialist I depend on Dled to guide me through it but I do know our roster looks pretty darn good without letting one of our best players go, plus a receiver. Pipe down cha cha!
Cejay
July 12th, 2012
2:25 pm
@Rick
” Get your paperbags ready, looks like old times are coming back”
hahahahahahahaha, now thats funny. How do you aint’s fans come on here time and again, and take these verbal beatings. hahahaha you being here is proof positive you fear the Falcons….why else do you come here ? I would NEVER stoop as low as to show up on a stinking aint’s blog! They’re not worth my time or effort !!!!lol
Cejay
July 12th, 2012
2:29 pm
How are you aint’s fans going watch football and be the stars in Swamp People at the same time !!!! lol
D. Orlando Ledbetter
July 12th, 2012
2:30 pm
JSS – That’s an agent view. Team view would take into account his age.
D. Orlando Ledbetter
July 12th, 2012
2:32 pm
Chance – They could use all of that space on him, but like I poiint out, there are a lot of other contract decisions.
Crickets.....
July 12th, 2012
2:32 pm
@ 10:14 am “…..and your team doesn’t play just itself during the season.”
Well now, I’m not sure about all that. With all the scandal talk it seems the Saints sure played themselves.
D. Orlando Ledbetter
July 12th, 2012
2:38 pm
Chubb Rock — Let me check the spam folder.
tjhook
July 12th, 2012
2:47 pm
Where is Gene Oakerlund to call these (tongue) wrestling matches . . .
D. Orlando Ledbetter
July 12th, 2012
2:48 pm
OK, let’s leave Seen alone.
Should/Will the Falcons show Grimes the money?
Willy
July 12th, 2012
2:54 pm
Does any of this contract conflict have to do with him asking not to play towards the end of last season because he wasn’t feeling 100%?
Rick
July 12th, 2012
3:05 pm
Yes
Rick
July 12th, 2012
3:06 pm
As in yes we can agow him the money. Its a passing league.
Rick
July 12th, 2012
3:07 pm
Show
JSS
July 12th, 2012
3:10 pm
@ Big Ray…
I never made personal with you (out respect of your overall long-time fairness on the Hawks blogs)… But hey, you want to go there? Don’t worry, that’s an “asked and answered” statement… Grimes, always had my respect… Turner, always had my respect… Roddy, once he started working on his craft, earned my respect… It is begrudging because he still tries to be a side show… I respected Forney when he was here because I saw him play at a high level with was only one arm! I respect what Gonzalez did before he got here… But I’m not going to lie and act like he is the same man who use to split cover 2 zones with ease and no MLB would dare trail underneath him to bait a QB to throw a shallow cross… You do remember that shallow cross don’t you? Urlacher read it and played it he was baiting a 1st or 2nd year rookie, not a 4th year Pro Bowl QB! There are plenty of people I respect in the Falcons organization… The “so-called” voice of “all” Falcons fans, no they are not on that respect list… And if that ticks you off to no end, that is your problem… It is sure is not mine! If you want to wallow in the pen with “Momma Joke Tellers,” The self-professed “intellectual ninja” who claims that he knows Dimitroff inner most thoughts personally, or the just bizarre bottom feeders who come here day and night making light of the worst disaster in this Nation’s history since the SF earthquake, be my guest… The world will keep spinning…
stizz
July 12th, 2012
3:18 pm
No, they shouldn’t. I’d be inclined to believeTD has more sens than to invest more than 25M in three corners. We don’t even know if he’s back to 100%. Let the season play out and let him walk. He’s going on thirty looking for his biggest contract and we still have Franks and Walls waiting in the wings.
Rick
July 12th, 2012
3:35 pm
Look what you did you hurt JSS feelings…….
JSS
July 12th, 2012
4:18 pm
@ Rick…
Wrong again, want to go for the trifecta? Like “I” said, “the world will keep spinning!”
Falcon James
July 12th, 2012
6:00 pm
DOL- LMAO with this article. Didn’t know you had it in you to be so funny. I think you missed your calling. LOL.Thank you for taking time to write this!
Falcon James
July 12th, 2012
6:36 pm
Back to the Grimes. He like Mighty Mouse and by far and away the best DB the Falcon have had in a long time. Even give-up-the “Big Play Ray Buchannon” could not hold a candle to Grimes. Dunta was supposed to our savior, and I know a lot of people like Dunta. Whether or not you say it was BVG or that our defensive scheme did not fit to Dunta strenghts, I don’t think he has lived up to what we paid for. Grimes on the other hand has proved himself year after year. I remember watching him play in preseason his first year and wondering where he had been hiding. He is not just good, he is really good! I am glad to see the Falcons gave him the $10M. I agree with another poster that this should have been done 2 years ago. I alse agree that he plays with wreckless abandonment and for that reason, I will be very saddened if he gets hurt. But I don’t think he will play any different. Grimes, by far, is a high priority signing for a long term deal. The Falcons managment know this and for that reason, I believe the deal will get worked out before the end of the season. I would not be surprised if this was not a reason for the “flip-flop” and a commitment was made. I think Grimes is as much a Falcon as Montana was a 49er. He wants to play for this team and am pretty sure he has a commitment for a long term deal. With that, is it football season yet? Let’s play ball.
Falcon James
July 12th, 2012
6:46 pm
One more comment, I don’t know for sure, but I was told from a realiable source that had first hand knowledge but spoke on condition of anonymity that White had a dead battery on his cell phone and lost his charger. Apprarently someone hid it in they locker to keep Roddy from embarrasing himself on Twitter.
Falcon James
July 12th, 2012
6:48 pm
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Firsttimer
July 12th, 2012
7:24 pm
Do not worry about Grimes until next year. If he walks, I agree we still have Franks and Walls waiting in the weeds. In today’s NFL unfortunately you lose good players to free agency. If he truly wants to be a Falcon it will show in next year’s negotiations.
kevin
July 12th, 2012
8:45 pm
Brent Grimes ain’t Drew Breese!
Laughing out Loud
July 12th, 2012
8:59 pm
Mr. Blank, Coach Smith and Thomas are classy men who run a professional football organization well. I trust them to take care of their players and pay them their due, if they can afford to pay. It’s so easy for fans to “spend” other people’s money and to make outrageous demands as to what the team management ought to do, but in the end it is the management’s responsibility to work effectively for a successful team.Go Falcons! We love to watch you! We love when you win. but we love you win or lose.
Falcon James
July 13th, 2012
7:11 am
I agree Blank, Smith and Thomas are classy men. That being said, they have had several busts that they overpaid. Baker, Edwards, and Dunta come to mind. They have had several good decisions, Turner, Ryan, Julio come to mind. My point is that Grimes has outshined the busts. Although, I am completely aware that there is a business element in play, a salary cap, and other contracts coming up, I hope that these three see the value on holding on to Grimes. It would have been nice to hold to Lofton, but the business aspect of the game would not allow it. My prediction is that Grimes will get a long term deal, hopefully with the Falcons, but it may be that he gets one with another team. I just think he has earned one.
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8:01 am
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PlanB
July 13th, 2012
10:07 am
Like “This Gets Old”, I don’t understand why so many of you acknowledge SeenthisB4, hiramsaint or the many other NO fans. I enjoy talking with you Falcon fans about the strengths and weaknesses of the players, coaches and mgmt. The trades, drafts, FA sigings and the many other things football fans love to discuss about their team. Then why do we spend most of our time on our blog arguing with these guys. I quit reading these guys but they are taking most of our space. What is the use in arguing with them about who was and is best. The records are there for the past and both teams should be embarrased about them. What will happen in 2012, we will not know until the game is played. If they post and you don’t respond, they will go away.
Falcon James
July 13th, 2012
2:35 pm
These clowns represent the best of the best Saint fan on the planet. They come to this blog, because inside every Saint fan, they is a Falcon Fan trying to get out. The problem they have is nobody wants them as a Falcon Fan so they are stuck. DOL said it best that we should cut them slack. They are uninformed, uneducated, and underachievers. We should feel sorry for them and take them under our wing, but in all honestly they are a waste of time and energy. I agree that they should be ingnored, but even if you get your message out, they will still keep posting because they are ignorant and have no life.
Big Ray
July 13th, 2012
3:10 pm
So the Aints just threw the bank and ol’ Breesy.
I’m predicting an injury this season. It just sounds right…
Jean Claude Killy
July 13th, 2012
3:11 pm
@JSS ,, Who you callin a Fool FOOL,,, You just made it personal with everyone with that remark,,, ,,LOL,, you something else ya know that..
Big Ray
July 13th, 2012
3:19 pm
JSS ,
What in the devil are you talking about? Personal biz, earthquakes, Gonzo slowing down….dude I don’t even remember talking to you, but then again I have noticed a lot of “Ray” posters on the Hawks blogs (and some have pretended to be me). On top of that, the computer I’m currently using is not just available to me, so there’s that as well.
Anyhow, I couldn’t follow your rant (and dang, I know you’re pissed because it was all one paragraph, LOL). If you got beef with me, oh well, get in line but bring your lunch.
Jean Claude Killy
July 13th, 2012
3:46 pm
@JSS again,
You dont have to follow B4 around,, dude is ubiquitous,,, if there is a Falcons blog,,, he’s on it like stink on Sh__-,,, Kinda like you., I do have more respect for B4 than I do you,, at least he’s passionate about something,, i.e. the aints,, I cant figure out why your here LOL
Big Ray
July 13th, 2012
4:12 pm
Ah, now I see what the fuss is after scrolling back a ways. Heh. I’ll tell you that was not me, but people believe what they want to, so I’m not going to lose sleep over it.
That said, I guess somebody took umbrage with your approach. Was bound to happen sooner or later, and this is, after all, a blog. Any opinion levied is liable to, in turn, be opined upon. You’re right, the world keeps spinning, bruh.
hiramsaint
July 13th, 2012
5:14 pm
big ray , rick and james , my boy , nah nah nah nah -we have a qb and you don’t
Painkillers, Bounties, Wire Tapping...my oh my
July 13th, 2012
5:26 pm
Well good for Brees…he helped me win $$$ in fantasy football and I’ll probably try to draft him again this year…still think he’s a hypocrite in his refusal to condemn the bounty program but no doubt he is the 2nd or 3rd best QB in the game right now.
JSS
July 13th, 2012
5:26 pm
It’s still spinning…
@ That fake 1968 Grenoble skiing wannabe…
Come back and blog at me after you take your daily dose of IVIG! Then you might have a vague memory… Or just go and prop up in your drool corner and mumble some gibberish!
hiramsaint
July 13th, 2012
5:28 pm
jean claude killy- a rose by any other name ! now if only matt meltdown could be as accurate ! lol lol lol FOOL
Falcon James
July 13th, 2012
6:21 pm
hiram, your village called and say missing they idiot. You might was to call them.
hiramsaint
July 13th, 2012
6:50 pm
might was ???? c’mon son , i told you how not to go through life !
Martin
July 14th, 2012
12:13 pm
It’s funny how you failcants fans call our super bowl champion the aint’s but your team is listed as one of about 5 teams never to win a super bowl. Now stop for a second and think about how pathetic you guys sound. I on record saying that your team is more like a ain’t or a Failcant. Now when and if they ever win a super bowl then maybe you guys can start to have a fun with calling us some other name. We have a name super bowl champion on the other hand your team has one to, it’s called one of five teams never to win a super bowl.
hbcuclassics
July 14th, 2012
9:37 pm
Crowell signs with Alabama State
http://www.hbcuclassics.com
nomistake
July 15th, 2012
2:32 pm
Matty Ice settles in behind center against the Saints. He takes the snap… oh wait he dropped the ball. The game is on the line, surely he will go for the ball. No, he didn’t… Do you know why? Because he had fear in his eyes. I promise you, watch the replay…fear. You will never see that fear in Brady, Rogers, Brees, or Manning. That is what separates the great from the good. When the game is on the line some people instincts take over and some people… well have fear in their eyes.
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