NFL COMBINE: Tech’s Stephen Hill runs 40 in 4.3 seconds

whoa, am i first? and hill rocked the combine. way to go stephen!

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Is Hill a Gailey recruit or Paul Johnson recruit? I pray that Paul Johnson can keep recruiting top Georgia talent like Bey-Bey Thomas and Calvin Johnson…

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Stephen is a Paul Johnson recruit; and he also looked fantastic in the passing drills. The NFL Network Announcers, including their top evaluator, Mike Mayock, said Stephen has forced everyone, including himself to immediately reevaluate him, and there should be a ton of private workouts now scheduled for him.

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S. Hill just proved to the entire FB world what a stubborn idiot that CPJ is, if you have a 6-4 215lb WR that can run a 4.30 at the combine then you play to the STRENGTH OF YOUR TALENT rather than being STUBBORN and trying to prove to the world that your gimmicky triple-SLOPtion Offense works, CPJ never played to the strength of his talent and NEVER used Hill like he should have which is WHY Hill & his Father decided to “gamble” on the NFL-combine rather than one more yr. of CPJ’s crappy offense.

CPJ calls games like he has slow unathletic WRs, when the recent proof is that he does not, at one point GT had BOTH Bay-Bay & S. Hill as the starting WRs, but this only happened half-way thru the season, when that season first started CPJ, the Offensive Genius had S. Hill BEHIND Bay-Bay rather than playing opposite of Bay-Bay and getting your 2 best WRs on the field at the same time.

I guess there’s no NEED to get your 2 best WRs on the field at the same time when all you need them to do is dive at kneecaps so you can prove to everyone your Genius triple-SLOPtion Offense will work at this level.

CPJ got LESS out of 2 tall sub-4.4 WRs (Thomas & Hill) than any HC in the history of CFB, yet his so-called calling card is that he gets the most out of his talent.

I knew I was right about CPJ trying to stubbornly force his triple-option offense upon the GT FB Program even when the talent suggests GT could have done other things LIKE open up the offense and pass to ELITE ATHLETES at WR.

I know S. Hill & his Father are PI$$ED at CPJ, had they chosen CMR & UGA then the 6-4 215lb Hill would have likely been a Top-5 Draft pick like A. J. Green, instead Hill’s 4.30 forty will likely only get him a 2nd round draft slot or maybe a late 1st round draft slot, roughly $10 Million in signing BONUS LESS that what A.J. Green got.

CPJ is where Recruits go to LOSE $millions in signing BONUS MONEY, just ask S. Hill & his Father.

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The facts are GT fans that CPJ has had 5 Recruiting Classes and in that time he has brought in NO PROVEN passers and NO PROVEN B-Backs!

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to WnE – stuff it.

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cbssports.com says:

None of his QB’s at Georgia Tech were strong armed and, hence,
passes were “floated” to Hill.
A tall, imposing wide reciever with long arms and big hands,
Hill was mostly asked to block in Georgia Tech’s triple-option offense.
As a blocker, Hill is outstanding, consistently locating, controlling, moving
and pancaking smaller DB’s, and more than holding his own against linebackers.
Hill can really go get it on deep passes, and has
elite top speed.

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@WnE: I would be thinking that Demariyus Thomas was a top-10 draft pick and a millionaire coming out of Paul Johnson’s system, so there’s no reason Stephen Hill can’t accomplish the same. Perhaps much of his success is actually owed to Paul Johnson’s system, since he was often either in 1-on-1 coverage or completely uncovered as defenses keyed in on the option.

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So…where was that explosiveness off the line from 2009-2011?

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I told you guys Hill would show out at combine. A couple of other Jackets not invited to combine will also wow the NFL scouts at their Pro Day.

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Official 4.36; tied for first with 2 others, currently in 1st in the Broad Jump.

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D-Orlando-Led:
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S Hill would have made even more MONEY by choosing the right college & HC to sign with coming out of HS.

Genetics made him 6-4 215lbs. and allowed him to train to run a 4.30 forty, but the SYSTEM & HC he played in College for is what is going to cost him money leading up to the April Draft.

Feb. 2009 (NSD for HS Recruits) is where S. Hill made his mistake, he’s twice the RAW Athlete as A. J. Green but he’ll be drafted a LOT LOWER.

The RIGHT SYSTEM & the RIGHT COLLEGE does make a huge difference.

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Hill is 4th in the Verticle.

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If WnE can tell me which WRs were taken ahead of Demaryius Thomas, I will agree that he would have done much better playing WR at UGa having Joe Cox through the ball to him.

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In 2009, Demaryius Thomas caught 46 passes for 1154 yards and 8 TDs
AJ Green caught 53 passes for 808 yards and 6 TDs

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ihey if harry d doesn’t come back do you think the falcons could pick up this guy?

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In 2009, Demaryius Thomas caught 46 passes for 1154 yards and 8 TDs
AJ Green caught 53 passes for 808 yards and 6 TDs
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A.J. Green missed 4-games due to Jersey-Gate!

Also would you please list when A.J. Green was drafted vs. when Bay-Bay was drafted, I think you’re proving my point for me?

Would you also compare A.J. Green’s combine stats vs. Bay-Bay’s and then compare their signing bonus money, maybe the SYSTEM that A.J. Green played in is what is making up the difference?

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WNE- What you fail to mention in your detailed studies, is, did those teams drafting in the top 10 in 2010 need a WR, apparently not since in the first 2 rounds only 4 WR’s were taken. Last year, Cincy and the Falcons greatest needs were WR and after Green and Jones were taken, no other WR was taken in the first round, just like in 2010, only 2 in first round. If Bay Bay had not gone early, he would have been a top 10 pick. Additionally, he had a broken foot when he had his pro day and at the combine which scared teams off. If Stephen had caught as many passes as he ahd dropped, he would be a top 10 pick and would not have to perform like he did today. I just don’t get why the hatred to Coach Johnson, I assume you have stopped donating your millions to Tech, because I am still funding our family scholarship, no matter who the coach is. Techman born, Techman Bred, I will be a Techman when I am dead.

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Where are all of you naysayers now who had plenty to say when this man made the decision to leave Tech!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Speak up!!!!!!!!!!!!! i don’t hear you!!!!!!!!!!!! Better yet, crawl back up under the rock you came from and find someone else to hate on because your dreams didn’t come true!!!!!!!!! Way to go FAMILY!!!!!!!!!!!! The people who count have and always will believe in you!!!!!!!!!! The mistake would have been going back to a school who has wasted your talent from day one!!!!!!!!!!!!! Now continue to impress as you have, sign your contract, go back to school and finish your degree and tell the naysayers to watch you play on SUNDAYS!!!!!!!!!!!

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WnE

February 26th, 2012
2:09 pm
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In 2009, Demaryius Thomas caught 46 passes for 1154 yards and 8 TDs
AJ Green caught 53 passes for 808 yards and 6 TDs
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A.J. Green missed 4-games due to Jersey-Gate!
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I thought you were a self-styled expert on football. AJ Green didn’t miss any games in 2009 due to selling his jersey.
Perhaps you just “make things up” to support your claims.

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if Thomas had played in a different SYSTEM in college then he would have gone MUCH higher than #22.

Thomas may have been a complete nobody in a different system. You have no idea how well he would have done or if he would have been a top pick. The only thing we know for sure was that he shined in Paul Johnsons offense. The guy was an average 3 star recruit coming out of high school and ended up a 1st round NFL draft pick. Im sure he is ok with how things turned out.

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While I do fill WnE is a clown, I agree with him that CPJ did not utilize him to his full potential.. No short or intermediate passing, no wide receiver screens, and limited passing to 7 attempts in some games is Horrible.. No Excuses..

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Sorry GT Bob
if Thomas had played in a different SYSTEM in college then he would have gone MUCH higher than #22.

Thomas may have been a complete nobody in a different system. You have no idea how well he would have done or if he would have been a top pick. The only thing we know for sure was that he shined in Paul Johnsons offense. The guy was an average 3 star recruit coming out of high school and ended up a 1st round NFL draft pick. Im sure he is ok with how things turned out.
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You’re flat out WRONG!

6-3 235lbs. and running a 4.38 Forty will get you on the field in ANY SYSTEM in college even at L$U & Bama with all their 4* & 5* Recruits.

Bay-Bay would have played anywhere he signed, he just happened to develop 1-yr. later than most Elite Recruits that are 4* or 5* coming out of HS, but he was still a 3* guy that was Recruited by Auburn & Clemson.

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Check the header of the video…

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It seems as if the people that know Hill from back in his Community & from his old HS agree with ME that CPJ’s Offense has hurt him and he wasn’t used properly in College, and in unison they are all glad that he left GT early.

Yet the CPJ “Kool-aid drinkers” continue to defend that crappy out-dated Offense!

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While I do fill WnE is a clown, I agree with him that CPJ did not utilize him to his full potential.

I agree to an extent, but lets be honest. Hill dropped a lot of wide open passes, and Tevin wasn’t the greatest QB around. Would you have added 10 more passing plays a game when you know that most attempts are going to fail? I want CPJ to add more to the passing game also but I don’t think he had the right crew to do it this year.

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This is not CPJ’s fault that he can’t use WR’s. we haven’t had a QB who could consitently throw the ball. Our QB’s in the past three years have just thrown the ball up and hope fof the best. Hopefully, Vad Lee will be better. Tevin Washington has a lot of heart but he is not a DI qb. I think once he gets a qb that can throw the ball consitently we will be in good shape.

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@WnE – When you call someone a stubborn idiot, I am ROFLMAO. Seriously, DUDE! Look in the mirror. Please post your picture so wikipedia can place it under the definition of stubborn.

Tech’s top WRs will continue to be drafted out of CPJ’s system b/c despite lacking a high number of catches, the yards per catch lead the NCAA and they can block fiercely.

Hill can play in the NFL. At what level remains to be seen.

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D. Thomas would most likely never had signed with Tech if PJ would’ve been at tech. Sounds like Hill has been getting some seriously good coaching the past few months, something he didn’t and never would’ve received under PJ. @Tech man , not Pjs fault? whos the head coach and should be recruiitng?Nesbitt had a great arm just no one to teach him proper mechanics.Tevins been in the system 4 years and has shown little improvement especially in the passing (or at tech) throwing game. If hill gets drafted high it would have nothing to do with the coaching he’s received at Tech.WNE is on the money.

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WnE….you are a piece of cold crap…..nuff said.

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man to man love gone wrong. hell hath no fury like a WnE-man scorned eh WnE? closest thing to love is hate and we all know how much you have your boy paul.

unfortunately for you he has a completely different disposition as to what sex he prefers.

so i think that i speak for all of us here on the blog. it is time for you to move on. there is nothing you can say that will make paul love you. And your diatribe is pushing him and all future mates away from you.

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Bob Julio Jones had 1133 yard receiving his junior year at Bama, Hill had 820 yard and disappeared in Big games 458 of his yards came in the 1st 4 games., Reuben Randall LSU leading receiver had over 900 yards receiving in 2011. where do your numbers come from?

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February 26th, 2012
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If S. Hiil were YOUR SON and ran a 4.36 forty at the combine at 6-4 215lbs would you be happy with the way that CPJ in games used him that might cost him a LOT OF MONEY?

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Voted StephenHill has thus far been the best OVERALL player in the 2012 NFLCOMBINE looking 1st round

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Unless 7 wr are taken in 1st rd , hill isn’t in 1st round. Blackmon, adams, benjamin, streeter, wright martin, wylie all much closer to being NFL ready than Hill, S. Hill is still a project and 1st round money isn’t going to be spent on a project.His inexperience at the position is going to hurt him. Over 50% of his yardage came against W Carolina, Middle Tenn, and UNC.
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Good insight.

And I blame CPJ for what you wrote above, his crappy offense and his inability to Recruit decent QBs and use guys like Hill the right way have cost this young man a LOT of money.

There still is a chance he can go late 1st round, but he’ll definitely go in the 2nd round.

If only CPJ and his staff had developed him properly, then maybe he’d be getting an extra $10 million in signing bonus money (1st round), but then again CPJ loves his Triple-SLOPtion offense too much to do what right based on his team’s personnel.

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I never said he was going 1st round the commentators did….IDGAF what you haters has to say about STEPHEN HILL hes still A top notch Athlete that the boosters couldn’t buy……now hate on haters hate on……

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I love it. WnE doesn’t even know what he is arguing anymore. Stephen Hill has his head spinning. WnE actually said that “a 4.38 40 and 235 lbs will get you drafted out of any system.” What a great quote. I think WnE is going to be surprised by the number of WR GT send to the NFL over the next few years. Those are the kind of guys we are recruiting. Big guys with some speed. Maybe not 4.38 speed. But obviously surprising speed (see Stephen Hill 40 time… bet no one was predicting that.) for their size. Jeff Greene and Darren Waller are going to be STUDS for GT.

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I’m rooting for him he’s a Tech guy…but so what he can’t catch the ball at all.

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Had a feeling he would do well and get drafted no doubt about it. He made the best choice, as he decided himself. And I do agree that CPJ did not take advantage of Hill as he should.

Also it is CPJs fault that he doesnt have a quarterback who would miss the ocean if he fell out of a boat. it is his job to find and recruit a QB that can actually throw the ball.

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If Vad Lee or another accomplished passer is not the starter at Tech this year, recruiting just got real tough for CPJ at the receiver position. We saw what Washington could do, he was ok. He will not lead Tech to a ACC championship imho. A Tracy Ham lookalike is the answer for CPJ and his system.

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Why can’t Johnson modify to allow, at least some times, for the spread. My son asked me to go to the Spring game last year- “son, love you, but can’t watch two teams running that offense”

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WnE, your whole argument against the GT offense has been based on the fact that we can’t recruit NFL caliber players, and we can’t get guys ready for the NFL using this offense. SHill blows both arguments out of the water.

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WnE, your whole argument against the GT offense has been based on the fact that we can’t recruit NFL caliber players, and we can’t get guys ready for the NFL using this offense. SHill blows both arguments out of the water.
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The OFFENSE didn’t get him ready!

Genetics & his Track Background from HS got him ready for the NFL Draft!

CPJ didn’t coach Bay-Bay to be 6-3 235lbs. and run a 4.38 forty.

CPJ didn’t coach Hill to be 6-4 215lbs. and run a 4.36 forty.

Had both guys played in a BETTER OFFENSE then they would have both been drafted higher and gotten BIGGER signing bonuses!

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WnE, I KNEW you’d try to pull this crap. Make up some facts to fit your narrative. Unreal… YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHERE SHILL GETS DRAFTED IN A DIFFERENT OFFENSE!!! SHill never would have led the nation in ypc in a different offense. As pointed out above, other guys with similar measurables out of HS didn’t end up where SHill is today. You can choose to ignore the FACTS and make up your own all you want, but it doesn’t change the truth.

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by the way, the story that WnE told about Marlon Brown and Stephen Hill above…. TOTALLY MADE UP. Its not true. UGA offered Marlon Brown first. You sir, are a liar.

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As a former college WR I would like to mention that there are a few more facets to the game than just running 40 yards. Can he learn a pro style offense? Can he run a professional route (doubtful)? Can he catch the football (this is proven that he can’t)? Can he or is he willing to play special teams (gotta have heart and toughness)?
If the game was as simple as running a great 40 yard time then Carl Lewis would be an NFL Hall of Famer. Shut up already. If he could play, we would know it. He had plenty of opportunities to show his worth in his 3 years at Tech. In those 3 years he had more faked injuries than catches. Do you think that the NFL was not watching these childish antics? I promise you that they were.

Call me in 3 years and let’s discuss how successful Mr. Hill is as an NFL player.

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If you believe WnE then Stephen Hill was the best WR of all time coming out of high school and if he went somewhere else he would have been better then Justin Blackmon. Never mind what Hill actually did on the field.

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WnE I can’t agree with you that if Stephen Hill had gone to UGA that is draft stock would be higher. AJ Green was a special type of talent coming out of high school. That’s not to say that SH5 was good in his own right, but not on the level of AJ. AJ Green would have been special where ever he went. Tavarres King was a much higher rate receiver coming out of high school than Stephen Hill was and what has playing for UGA gotten him?

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Rick……I can’t agree more about Washington. Is Vlad Lee still on the roster?

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WnE (is that short for Whinee?) – If you are so bloody brilliant, why aren’t you a head coach at a BCS school? Just curious……

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Who gave Stephen Hill SEC Speed? He can’t be that fast unless he plays for an SEC team.

(sarcasm, kids. Go Jackets!)

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That may be true for qbs , but what about his inability to recruit or develop RBs and WR .
Given the fact that PJ recruits 4 and 5 star players for these positions and they don’t sign with him.
He’s put a lot of offers out for better players and hasn’t signed any of them. His offense isn’t a good fit in the BCS world. You can throw all the rushing yards etc out you want but the majority of his success was with another coaches recruits and against weaker teams. Pj was a very good d1aa coach, but his inexperience shows against the better teams and in recruiting.The only team that out recruits PJ that doesn’t beat him on a regular basis is Clemson. Justin thomas obviously isn’t concerned with playing on the next level, he would have been wiser listen to Saban and the other who recruited him as a DB or WR.

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Marlon Brown, played behind AJ green his freshman and sophomore years and had injury problems last year. Given the depth Georgia has at receiver he not been rushed into playing time.Marlon will be very good again this year if he can stay healthy. Tech has nowhere near the talent nor depth Georgia has at WR, though Pj wanted JSWesley and Chris Conley very badly recruited them hard. Settled for lesser players as usual.Wne may not be right about everything but coaching of WR is much better at UGA.

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Let me tell you some facts… S Hill was never offered by Uga until the last minute, after they missed out on someone else. D. Thomas was recruited by Uga as a TE,. not a WR, (just like Cam Newton was) NOBODY wastes 4 and 5 Star talent like Uga

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Wastes 5 star talent? D Thomas would’ve been moved to a WR, in his 11 years richt?Georgia has 3 bcs bowls 2 bcs wins,6 top 10 finishes , 2nd most wins in SEC, 4 division and 2 SEC titles finished 2nd in country twice .Tied with LSU for most top 25 finishes 9. Your are correct Hill was offered last minute by UGA but only as a backup if Marlon Brown had decide to go to USC or Tennessee,Ohio state or Oklahoma rthe other schools that were offering.
twice. Please elaborate what 5 star talent has been a bust at Uga, Caleb King 4 star ?stayed injured had a learning disability and never matured. AJ Greeen, Matt Stafford? Knowshon Moreno,? There has been 1 that didn’t make to NFL and that was M Elmore from 2002. Common tech myth, Cam wasn’t going to come to UGA with Stafford already there, and UGA wasn’t the only school that thought he would grow out of the position.And what good would it have done he would’ve been thrown out at Georgia faster than he was UF.Have there been some misses in recruitng yes but everyone has them. Seem to do just fine 10-1 vs Tech and winning record vs every SEC team not named Florida.
Perhaps you should talk trash to a team like Duke that tech beats with some consistency. Georgia has accomplished more in 11 years than tech has the past 47.as far as 4 star talent look at the number of players in the NFL. Do you even have a clue as to how players are rated?

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The Stephen Hill situation should serve as a prime example as to why NO outstanding offensive prospect should sign with GT. Offensive linemen are taught to block illegally, with their heads down diving at knees and ankles, never pass blocking; running backs have no idea how to follow blocking or pass block; TEs are non factors, as are WRs. Fish Fry’s offense is a joke, and the GT program continues to decline. The only thing saving Fish Fry is playing in the pitiful ACC coupled with the games against FCS programs. Interesting how GT cancelled Middle Tenn the Sat following the VT game for another Jax St, Gardner-Webb type, do the Mighty Blue Raiders pose ‘that’ much of a threat?

Yep, I’m guessing this evening Stephen Hill regrets declining that late offer from Georgia. No doubt he would have a much higher draft status coming out of that offense, and a few more million dollars to look forward to banking.

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The more passes you catch, the more they’ll throw you…

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So WnE which is it? Can CPJ not recruit top talent or can he not fully utilize top talent? I guess I could just repeatedly try to change my argument and attempt to make myself look smart, but I would fail and look as stupid as you do right now. The experts put Hill as an average WR out of high school and you agreed, they said he was a late round pick and should have stayed and you agreed, now after a good pro day he is all world, by some, and you agree. Hill dropped several wide open passes and you blasted him and blamed CPJ for not being able to recruit top talent. Sitting here and arguing that Hill was not utilized properly is stupid. Almost all other coaches would have benched Hill for all those dropped passes and played somebody else. CPJ always spoke highly of Hill and gave him multiple chances to be a game changer. Some Hill shined in and some he looked God awful. By the way in 09 Hill and Thomas lined up oppisite each other often. Way to once again show how stupid you really are.
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Stephen Hill was a 4* Recruit coming out of HS, I think that constitutes being above AVERAGE,and when you add in the size, and the Track Numbers 25 foot long jump to go along with a 41 inch vertical, there was nothing AVERAGE about him coming out of HS.

This is what makes GT fans look like CPJ sycophants, they lie a downgrade recruits to make it seem like CPJ should get all the credit and the Recruit/player should get NONE.

Back when Hill signed with GT I was one of the few GT Fans to admit that while this was good for GT, it would end up being BAD for him & his family because CPJ would cost him money in the NFL draft due to GT’s gimmicky Offense.

Here we are a short 3 yr.s later amd Ol Wrecks was correct once again.

I even mentioned how CPJ had hoodwinked Hill & his father with promises of opening up the Offense, and yet during Hill’s Jr. yr. GT only attempted about 13 passes per game.

I never said Hill was a late Round draft pick.

What I did say was the reason Hill & his father decided to leave GT is because they KNEW they’d be better off learning on the job in the NFL and trying to get drafted off of his combine performance rather than come back to GT for more “jump ball passes” & “smoke routes” that don’t get you ready for the NFL.

My comments have been very consistent and can be easily found on various AJC Sports Blogs.

What you have attributed to me is false.

I did say that Hill & Bay-Bay lined up opposite of each other HALF-WAY through the season since Hill was BEHIND Bay-Bay on many of the early season depth charts, and many GT fans (not just me) were wondering WHY CPJ had his 2 best WRs at the same position rather than opposite of each other.

So after FIVE Recruiting classes CPJ has brought in:

ONE WR — Hill

ONE OL — Uzzi

ZERO B-Backs

ZERO QBs

ONE CB — Lou Young an Academic reject from Stanford at the last minute

ZERO Safeties

ONE AB — Orwin Smith

ZERO pass blocking OLs

ZERO pass RUSHING DLs

ONE “decent LB” – Attachou last second flip from Md. due to CAG

Now that I think of it, WHAT HAS CPJ DONE RECRUITING-WISE that is worth mention?

That’s a LOT of sparse Recruiting for CPJ to get so much love from the GT fanbase!

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I don’t understand all of the anger towards the “antiquated” offense Tech runs.

Tech was 21st in the nation in PPG, and 18th in yards per game. Who cares if these were through the air, or on the ground? The offense works.

Also, the NFL doesn’t care a whole lot about systems played in other than with QB. Talent is talent, no matter if you’re in a Run N’ Shoot, Spread Option, Wishbone, Triple Option, “Pro Style”, whatever.

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I don’t understand all of the anger towards the “antiquated” offense Tech runs.

Tech was 21st in the nation in PPG, and 18th in yards per game. Who cares if these were through the air, or on the ground? The offense works.

Also, the NFL doesn’t care a whole lot about systems played in other than with QB. Talent is talent, no matter if you’re in a Run N’ Shoot, Spread Option, Wishbone, Triple Option, “Pro Style”, whatever.
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The NFL does care what system you played in in College, becasue in MANY CASES that will determine how quickly a rookie can get on the field & contribute, this is especially TRUE on Offense at all positions.

This is one reason that Andrew Luck is so highly thought of, the System he played in under Harbaugh at Stanford was a pure NFL Pro Style Offense sans the typical gimmicks that most colleges run.

Another example is the Manning boys that played under Cutcliff, one at UT and the other at Ole Miss when Cutcliff was the HC, when you combine talent with the right system (Pro-Style), those additional 3-4 yrs. of Pro-Style Resp at the College Level will get you ready for the NFL.

Matt Barkely at USCw, Mark Sanchez at USCw, and Matt Ryan from BC , and Andy Dalton from TCU are a few recent College QBs that fall into this category.

The more RESP that you haveon FILM doing NFL style stuff on Offense will give you the TIE-BREAKER to NFL SCOUTS & GMs.

Example:

If there are 2 guys exactly like S. Hill that are 6-4 215lbs. that are of equal strength, and of equal speed & agility, the one that played WR in the PRO-STYLE OFFENSE will get drafted higher 99% of the time assuming the character issues are equal.

This is the way the NFL handles its business, and the excuse-making for CPJ won’t change this FACT!

BTW the Offense doesn’t work vs. GOOD TEAMS; GT & Coach Fish Fry are 1-11 in the last 2 seasons vs. Top-50 defenses, basically CPJ & GT have been getting fat on very weak Teams, anther FACT that GT Fans refuse to accept.

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4.3 40 JUST MEANS HE WILL BE DRAFTED BY THE RAIDERS!

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Catching the ball is also important.

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I guess all u bitter Tech fans have never been to a Tech practice…..WR spend 95% of practice blocking or working on blocking skills…..If you know how to manual stick car but only drive it once a month do you thing you will be a great driver……….. Believe me he will make it in the league and be successful….HIs work ethic and drive will not let him fail

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You are an idiot, Hill can run a 3.3, but he has to CATCH the ball.
I have never seen a guy choke in games like Hill. He has dropped more catchable passes than anyone I have ever seen at Tech.
Good luck to Hill, but I hope he has no contact with a jock sniffer like you.
This new guy from Adel, Henry, played wide receiver and linebacker in high school. I hope Hill does well in the pros if he makes a team, but he did not prove anything in college except that he could drop sure touchdown passes.
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CPJ spends 16 of his NCAA allowed 20 hrs per week practice time working on his gimmicky Triple-SLOPtion offense, with such little time left over to work on the PASSING GAME it is no wonder WRs like Hill don’t look polished in Game under pressure situations, this DECISION by coach Fish Fry hurts both the QBs & the WRs.

To prove it isn’t just the WRs, the B-backs out of the backfield AND the A-backs also look lost in the passing game, and you can throw O-Line also.

If the QBs, and the B-backs, AND the A-Backs, and the WRs, AND the O-line all look lost in the passing then that means that THE HC and the way he runs his practices are to BLAME.

CPJ is the problem, and the fact that S.Hill and his father BOLTED from GT after on 28 catches and chose to gamble on the NFL combine just shows how little FAITH that GT’s own players have in CPJ’s ability to put together a decent passing game.

Remember Bay-Bay bolted also with one yr. left after an ACC-CG with a chance to make a run at a MNC had those 4 juniors came back to GT.

GT’s own players jump ship at the first possible chance, how much confidence does that show in coach Kung Fu Panda?

BTW ,the new WR Travin Henry is not a 25 foot long jumper out of HS and not a 41 in vertical leap guy, his raw athleticism is nowhere near what S.Hill a 4* Recruit was coming out of HS.

GT fans need to learn there is a difference between DEPTH and just names on a roster.

Just because GT remaining WRs are big, that doesn’t make them future NFL guys.

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Please take note at what many GT fans said one-month ago when Hill Decided to leave GT:

http://www.stingtalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=61741

For full disclosure this is one of the many GT themed message boards that have banned me for being honest about GT FB under Coach Kung Fu Panda.

Notice the VITRIOL directed at Hill for leaving Coach Fish Fry’s gimmicky crappy triple-SLOPtion Offense.

GT fans don’t realize this, but this is WHY GT has such a hard time Recruiting, their fanbase is so smarmy, smug, and judgmental towards SAs and Recruits.

Basically GT’s Fans are the FB Program’s own worst enemy!

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From the NFL’s own website that tracks the players at the combine, their write up on S. Hhill :
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Overview

Hill is an early-entry junior receiver out of Georgia Tech who started consistently for the past two years and was the sole deep threat in a run-first offense. He has great length and an outstanding catch radius, which along with his speed makes him a serious deep-threat option in the NFL. He has a thin frame and will be hurt by the fact that he ran a very basic route tree at Georgia Tech, and teams won’t be able to utilize him for much more than go routes at this point in his career. He is a splash player who was No. 1 in the nation in yards per catch; he has fourth-round value based off his all-around body of work but could impress a team with his size and speed enough to ascend significantly throughout the pre-draft process. If the rest of his game can catch up to the ability he shows in the deep passing game, Hill could be the sleeper of this year’s draft.

Weaknesses

Hill’s value is based purely off his ability as a deep threat. He has average quickness and moves off the line of scrimmage to avoid a jam. He ran a very basic route tree at Georgia Tech that didn’t allow him to showcase many skills. Outside of catching jump balls, he struggles to read coverages and understand how to find holes in a zone. Hill looks uncomfortable with the ball in his hands and resembles a lengthy track star on the field instead of a football player. He dropped as many big balls as he made big plays; his YPC stat defines him perfectly as a player who is capable of making flash plays but isn’t reliable.
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These comments about S. Hill have nothing to do with anything the PLAYER did wrong, they have EVERYTHING to do with CPJ’s crappy system.

All of Hill’s weaknesses are CPJ’s fault and not his fault, he wasn’t taught and developed as a complete WR in CAP’s offense.

Amazing how the NFL experts say the exact same thing that I am saying, yet none of the GT Fans will lay any blame at the feet of CPJ.

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Calvin Johnson, Bebe Thomas, Steven Hill.

Georgia Tech is becoming big/fast Wide Receiver U.

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Where are all of you naysayers now who had plenty to say when this man made the decision to leave Tech!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Speak up!!!!!!!!!!!!! i don’t hear you!!!!!!!!!!!! Better yet, crawl back up under the rock you came from and find someone else to hate on because your dreams didn’t come true!!!!!!!!! Way to go FAMILY!!!!!!!!!!!! The people who count have and always will believe in you!!!!!!!!!! The mistake would have been going back to a school who has wasted your talent from day one!!!!!!!!!!!!! Now continue to impress as you have, sign your contract, go back to school and finish your degree and tell the naysayers to watch you play on SUNDAYS!!!!!!!!!!! Спортивное питание

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I don’t think the bitter fans here are Tech fans. Rather, I think most of them are UGA fans trying to stir things up. None of the UGA fans want to see SHill succeed, because the realize that UGA can’t use that as negative recruiting like they have been doing. I am a GT fan who wishes SHill would have come back and had a Demaryus Thomas type of season and gotten drafted as one of the top 2 or 3 WR next year. However, I can’t begrudge the guy for leaving a year early when he’s going to get drafted close to that this year (probably top 5 WR).

As for WnE…. you have lost all credibility. You told a LIE about Marlon Brown and Stephen Hill earlier in this comment section. You said that Stephen Hill was recruited by UGA before Marlon Brown and that UGA settled on Marlon after Stephen Hill spurned them, which IS NOT TRUE!!!! I want everyone to know these things when they read your comments. You make stuff up to fit your opinion. Keep spouting your drivel, so I can catch you in another lie.

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coach13
February 27th, 2012
10:46 am

WnE- I’m a UGA fan and I don’t make a habit of defending rival coaches. That being said, Hill knew that TEch was option team when he committed. If he wanted to run routes and catch the ball he should’ve gone to just about any other school in the country. It’s not CPJ’s or any other coach’s job to run a playbook in order to prepare kids for the NFL.

If anyone is to blame it’s Hill. He runs a 4.3 and he committs to an option offense????
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CPJ is not completely honest with these Recruits and their parents.

He pops in 25-30 yr.old tapes of Hawaii passing 30 times a game in the WAC, and then he promises these Recruits that he’s gonna “open up the Offense” if only they’ll sign and give him the right recruits, and then after they get to GT, he continues to pass less than 14 times per game and only throws Jump-balls to the WRs and “smoke-routes”.

He can get away with this because the NCAA punishes the players by making them sit -out 1 yr. if they choose to transfer.

HS recruits nowadays aren’t stupid, they’re being mislead with promises of opening up the offense and then CPJ keeps running his triple-option knowing that the NCAA punishes the player and he won’t able to transfer to any ACC school.

The real story will come out eventually, and an insider that knows Hill will come out eventually and confirm what I have said.

GT fans don’t want to admit that CPJ ain’t as upstanding in the Recruiting process as he makes it seems especially when it comes to Recruiting offensive players.

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As for WnE…. you have lost all credibility. You told a LIE about Marlon Brown and Stephen Hill earlier in this comment section. You said that Stephen Hill was recruited by UGA before Marlon Brown and that UGA settled on Marlon after Stephen Hill spurned them, which IS NOT TRUE!!!! I want everyone to know these things when they read your comments. You make stuff up to fit your opinion. Keep spouting your drivel, so I can catch you in another lie.
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The TRUTH is, is that after Hill de-committed from UCF; CMR wanted him and told him that he would take ONE MORE WR, and the first guy to commit would get the scholly.

This mean that if Hill had taken CMR up on his offer then he would have had that scholly that went to Marlon Brown that didn’t commit until later.

Eschewing TEChnicalities, this means that CMR had them graded out at least as equals and would have been just as happy had Hill committed to UGA first.

Hill fell for CPJ’s shady recruiting spiel and the rest is history.

In summary, AFTER Hill had de-committed from UCF he had an equal shot to get that last WR scholly that went to Brown that decided much later and very close to NSD.

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Tell us, WnE, what did Johnson lie to him about? I’m all ears.

Note: PROVIDE PROOF

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DOL, please stop wasting space on the FALCONS tab of your website with Georgia and GT player updates. I DON’T CARE

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You have the option not to click on the link, Northern Bird.

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WnE, I love how your story on Marlon Brown and Stephen Hill CHANGED! Marlon Brown was OFFERED a scholarship at UGA many months before Stephen Hill, if Stephen Hill ever even had a committable offer from UGA (that’s not even clear). Hill was a late bloomer in football, Marlon Brown was an early bloomer. But YOU said that Stephen Hill was more sought after than Marlon Brown by UGA!!! Yet you provide NO PROOF and in fact the FACTS actually say something different.

WnE, you have no credibility.

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George Stein,

WnE did provide proof/evidence. Didn’t you read WnE’s post where he says PJ “pops in 25-30 yr old tapes of Hawaii throwing 30 times per game in the WAC”

I guess we all know now that WnE is in fact on PJ’s recruiting team, and is actually PJ’s right-hand-man when talking to a recruit’s parents.

That WnE sure is funny!

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WnE,

Someone woke up ill today. Hill made a few nice catches for Tech. He made a ton of great blocks for Tech. Having a fast 40 time doesn’t translate into NFL greatness. Hill would have benefited from another season at Tech. He dropped a lot of balls at Tech. Balls that you cannot drop in the NFL and stay employed. He may surprise us all, but I seriously doubt CPJ had anything to do with his decision to go pro early. More like grades and school.

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GTfan2012

February 27th, 2012
1:24 pm

WnE, I love how your story on Marlon Brown and Stephen Hill CHANGED! Marlon Brown was OFFERED a scholarship at UGA many months before Stephen Hill, if Stephen Hill ever even had a committable offer from UGA (that’s not even clear). Hill was a late bloomer in football, Marlon Brown was an early bloomer. But YOU said that Stephen Hill was more sought after than Marlon Brown by UGA!!! Yet you provide NO PROOF and in fact the FACTS actually say something different.

WnE, you have no credibility.
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If your poor knowledge of GT FB is so lacking that you don’t even remember the big celebration when GT “beat out” UGA for Stephen Hill, then you’re the one that has no credibility.

YES, S. Hill did have an offer from CMR & UGA, an offer he now REGRETS that he turned down!

Also I never said that Hill was more sought after than Brown (one was 4* the other a 5*), I did say that CMR had them rated about equal since he told them the offer was out there for ONE WR and whichever Recruit commits first the scholly is his.

Hill was 4* Recruit, are you sure you want to call him a “late bloomer” in your attempt to make CPJ look as if he “made S.Hill what he is today”?

Boy, the lengths(i.e. LIES) that the GT fanbase will go to defend CPJ!

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It would be nice if CPJ could pick it up a little (a lot) and give us something at GT!! Iknow this is UGA state but this REdickULAS.

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Hill was a four star player by Scout. Rivals & ESPN both had him as a three star, by the way.

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Would you consider that a late bloomer like that other GT fan, that obviously doesn’t follow GT FB?

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Sorry Steinie, but you should know that I don’t use multiple screen names, also I clearly know that Hill never signed with CMR and never committed with CMR, but that CMR tried very hard to get him after he de-committed from UCF.

You should have known that’s not me from simply reading the facts as he presented them.

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I don’t recall ever alleging you did use multiple handles, WnE.

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Flop in COllege, Flop in the Pros. Speed is only 1 aspect of the game.

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Brad, you are right, leaping ability and explosiveness are two other important aspects. And Stephen Hill has both of those, too (see his 11′ broad jump and 40″ vertical).

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Ramblin Man…….those blocks you say are illegal are called cut blocks. They are legal by rule. Nice try!

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Speed does not make a receiver. Does anyone remember Gerald Tinker. World class 100, didnt stay in football three years.First round busted by our beloved Falcons. Bolden Ran only 4.6 at combine. is he a good receiver.
This has become a blog for UGA and Tech fans to fuss. Who cares. Falcons doesn’t draft players for UGA or Tech. Last year they did with Dent, Walker about three years ago in seventh round. The last player that was drafted high from either school was Booking. That was by Reeves. Wonder boy likes to draft from MOU or Montana State.

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Wrexie, it is alright. I will come over and we can play hide the football with each other. And by football I mean I will give it to you as hard as you want it.

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Since I am bored I will bite again at WeeNiE. Hill was a 4 star by one site and a 3 by all others and you have pointed this out in the past as a negative of other recruits. Please stick to one story as you look stupid every time you flip. Where are you getting all this information on Hill? You keep saying Hill and his Father chose to leave GT because of CPJ and the option. Please post a link to when he or his father said this because I can’t find it. I know you like to stalk this gets so maybe he tweeted it to you, you know like the great relationship you have with Vad Lee. Maybe Hill would have shined in another O or maybe his ball dropping would have had him ride the pine, we will never know. Well we idiot fans will never know and not the great all knowing that is you. You have no facts to back any of this up as it is your opinion, which I will grant you have the right to have, but it is only an opinion and not the cold truth you want people to have. If you would post once and argue if you had a fact other posters would actuallu respect you instead of looking upon you as the crazed, obsessed, stalker you are.

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Paddy I was responding to Just Saying who said that CPJ only teaches illegal blocking schemes.

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Please, the kid is overrated. UGA shut him down every year we played him. His game speed is more 4.5 and he drops everything but his “train for combine 40″ speed is 4.31. He’s a project, you’re a fool if you take him before the 4th round.

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MrSux,
Nice name selection. I’m sure that your dad is proud.

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Great stats!! And that is against ACC teams!! 1000 yds receiving and 12 TDs in 3 years!!!!! BUST BUST BUST. Mark my words!!!
SEASON REC YDS AVG LNG TD ATT YDS AVG LNG TD
2011 28 820 29.3 82 5 4 29 7.3 24 0
2010 15 291 19.4 79 3 3 34 11.3 16 0
2009 6 137 22.8 53 1 5 84 16.8 26 1

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Hill’s 4.3 in the 40 makes me wonder how Ga Tech keeps spitting out these big fast receivers? Could it be that running from practice to your car on Tech’s campus without getting mugged makes for faster players? This is not a dig – I am a Tech fan, but dang, if Hill’s hands were as good as his legs, we’d be talking top 5 pick.

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