Falcons from ‘The U’ mum on the scandal

Falcons rookie kicker Matt Bosher was obviously told by the Falcons not to discuss the Univeristy of Miami scandal.  Curtis Compton ccompton@ajc.com

Falcons rookie kicker Matt Bosher was obviously told by the Falcons not to discuss the Univeristy of Miami scandal. Curtis Compton ccompton@ajc.com

FLOWERY BRANCH – The Falcons only have two players from the University of Miami in linebacker Spencer Adkins and punter Matt Bosher.

Adkins was selected in the sixth round of the 2009 draft and Bosher, who’s attempting to replace Michael Koenen, was selected in the sixth round of the 2011 draft.

The university and NCAA are conducting investigations following a report by Yahoo! Sports that a former booster, in prison for his role in a Ponzi Scheme, lavished more than 70 players and coaches with cash, jewelry, travel, parties, prostitutes and an aborition.

New England Patriots tight end Rob Gronkowski (87) makes a touchdown catch past Atlanta Falcons linebacker Spencer Adkins (59) during 4th quarter action for a 28-3 lead at the Georgia Dome in Atlanta on Thursday, August 19, 2010. Curtis Compton ccompton@ajc.com

New England Patriots tight end Rob Gronkowski (87) makes a touchdown catch past Atlanta Falcons linebacker Spencer Adkins (59) during 4th quarter action for a 28-3 lead at the Georgia Dome in Atlanta on Thursday, August 19, 2010. Curtis Compton ccompton@ajc.com

“I haven’t gotten involved with it,” Adkins said last Friday after the Falcons game against Jacksonville. “I’m just here with Atlanta trying to get better.”

The scandal alleged lasted from 2002 to 2010. Adkins wasn’t sure if any of former teammates were involved.

“I really can’t speak on it because I really don’t know anything,” Adkins said. “I haven’t focused on that at all.”

Bosher, a sixth-round pick from the University of Miami, was instructed by the Falcons not to discuss the current scandal at the school.

“I love Miami, but I’m here to talk about the Falcons right now,” Bosher said after practice on Sunday. “If you have any more questions about that you can talk to [the communications staff.]”

When asked if he thought Miami should receive the NCAA’s death penalty, Bosher said, “I don’t have anything to say about that.”

–D. Orlando Ledbetter, The Atlanta Falcons beat blog

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ClassicFalcons

August 23rd, 2011
5:26 am

I think the NCAA should not punish Miami. I think the NCAA is ripping football and basketball players off! An education is not enough anymore. The university makes millions off these two sports and the athletes should be payed like minor league ball players, bottomline. A college education isnt what it use to be. I’m sorry, but these guys were living here life, and living an extravagant one at that! More power to them. NFL or the NCAA Can’t Touch em now! NCAA is ran by some scumbags. Just My Opinion.

cdog

August 23rd, 2011
6:02 am

the ncaa has too many stupid rules.it should be about sports and competition.the ncaa has too many wannabees who couldn’t make it in athletics but couldn’t now its their way to gain attention.shortened the unneccesary rules.focus on the playing fields. there is no such thing as cheating.

bgfalcon

August 23rd, 2011
6:21 am

@Cfalcons- an education is not enough? you’re pretty much getting paid 30 grand if u go to an out of state school and 15 grand if you don’t.

robert

August 23rd, 2011
6:25 am

the rules were there and the team and university broke them willingly and tried to cover it up. any team would be punished for this and miami deserves everything it gets. the same goes for any other teams that get busted doing what they shouldnt do.

Bud Wiser

August 23rd, 2011
6:35 am

I only have 3 letters to say about that: S – M – U

dawgfan

August 23rd, 2011
7:07 am

There are 120 schools that field a football team in Division 1 (BCS). Of those 120 schools only about 35 of their athletic programs make a profit, the other 85 schools end up charging students a higher athletic association fee. Though most schools make a profit on football and most on men’s basketball, all the other sports drain the schools profits. But title 9 requires schools to maintain an equal amount of women’s sports which cost the schools, so getting rid of these other programs really isn’t an option. If schools started paying players more than a scholarship, then students going to school to get an education would have to pay more money and the last thing we need to do is charge people more to go to college.

Sebastian the IBIS

August 23rd, 2011
7:16 am

Allegations from a convict yet to be proven, don’t rush to conclusions, GO CANES!

gabeaux

August 23rd, 2011
7:47 am

We already have professional football. If the pros want a minor league system, let them start one. The college game should be for student athletes. A college education is worth a fortune to those who use it. It isn’t about funding a lavish lifestyle on future pros, it’s supposed to be about educating young people.

bigdawg88

August 23rd, 2011
8:00 am

ClassicFalcons,
The rules are there because people won’t leave these kids alone and let them get their free education, and possible multi-million dollar paydays. The NCAA is about AMATEUR athletics. That means you don’t get paid, but at least you get a free education. The rules have been there, so follow them, or go follow PRO sports. Most people follow the rules. I hope they do a better job at catching the others. If it wasn’t for the cheaters there wouldn’t so many rules. But you have too many people who will try to use any little loophole or scheme to get money to players. If they really cared about the schools they would do the right thing and donate to the general scholarship fund, or at least the athletic fund. These cheating boosters are usually egomaniacs who want to feel important by coddling up to the players and sneaking them money. Pathetic that grown men have to pay boys for attention. Might as well be paying cruisers for sex!!

Jason

August 23rd, 2011
8:01 am

I don’t for a second believe that the NCAA is ripping the college athletes off. Are the athletes paying for their coaches’ salaries so that they can be trained to become talented enough for the NFL? Are they paying for the training facilities with the all world weight rooms so that they can build their bodies into NFL bodies? Are they paying the nutritionists to teach them to eat right, and are they paying for the meal plans at school? Are they paying for the stadium costs so that the stadium mortgage is paid off and is well maintained? Are they paying for their own room and board? Are they paying for their own medical care?

The truth is that these athletes are essentially being taught to develop their skills in an apprenticeship where everything is taken care of for them. In turn, those that are teaching them are rightly benefiting. This is no different from the research scientist who makes an important discovery while working toward his doctorates degree and the rights to the discovery become intellectual property of the school.

David

August 23rd, 2011
8:11 am

Is this whole thing a big surprise to anyone, really? Considering the thug punk attitude this team always has had? I agree with the statement that this is not minor leagues for the pros. So very few student athletes ever make the pros. The rest are getting a high dollar education paid for.

Mike

August 23rd, 2011
8:21 am

If the allegations are accurate, they need to punished accordingly. Period.

dawgsfan1990

August 23rd, 2011
8:22 am

I’m amazed this all evidently went on under Randy Shannon’s nose. I thought he was a standup guy?

bamaguy

August 23rd, 2011
8:25 am

My vote is for not paying players (I think those of us who spent years paying off student loans have very strong opinions on the value of a college education).

However, an impermissible benefit should be limited to cash and things of value that can be resold. This would make fishing trips, dinners and tattoo’s permissible. You really all that concerned that an alumnus with a big boat takes a few guy out on a fishing trip or takes them out and pays for dinner? None of those things can be turned into cash for the player and NCAA compliance can center on significant things like cash, expensive watches and cars.

D man

August 23rd, 2011
8:35 am

The rules in the NCAA are stupid. Punishing an organization for what someone outside the school does is stupid. Now everybody has to have ESP or you will get a sanction or big fines or something taken away. Stupid, stupid, stupid…

MARTA Rida

August 23rd, 2011
8:38 am

Every major college team cheats. Miami just happen to get caught up with a guy who lost everything and had nothing to lose so he snitched on ths school and the players. He is still a felon and everyone believes every word. The NCAA can never take away Miami’s legacy! How many national titles does the state of Georgia have? Not as many as one small private-college with a history of producing the best football players! GO CANES!

dan

August 23rd, 2011
8:49 am

kind of funny

SavannahFalconsFan

August 23rd, 2011
8:53 am

So you’re telling me that $55,366/yr is not enough? Most people do not make that much in a year! That figure is from the U’s website for incoming freshman. I grew up a fan of The U and I still am, but I do not agree with any of this crap that is going on with players at any school. Playing sports in school is a privelage, not a right. I think any school that violates the rules should be punished. It does scare me though that they might get the death penalty like SMU did, but if that is what they get, they brought it on themselves. AD’s should be more involved as well as the coaches. They know what is going on and should be punished for allowing it to happen.

dan

August 23rd, 2011
8:54 am

Yea censorship my post wasnt posted either and was actually kind in insightful

dan

August 23rd, 2011
9:00 am

I got my B.A. from a small school. I had to work, live at parents’ house and work to pay for my schooling, car etc. When I went look for a job and handed out my resume who you think the employers were more impressed with someone with a Degree from a small school or Georgia Tech, Georgia, Florida, Auburn etc.
Getting a free education is a valuable commodity the problem is most of the athletes shouldn’t even be in college. If it wasn’t for their scholarship they would be flipping burgers or in the Army. I am not saying all athletes are dumb but let’s not kid ourselves for every athlete that majoring in Information Systems on Saturday when they announce the starting players you will see them post about 10 players on the TV and it will say major General Studies.

Tdawg

August 23rd, 2011
9:02 am

ClassicFalcons + Sebastian the IBIS = Dumb as dirt…..

dan

August 23rd, 2011
9:07 am

Basically take advantage of your free ride now because when the camera and lights are off someone has to get up to make the doughnuts.

PMC

August 23rd, 2011
9:23 am

Yeah if only the guy that spent all that stolen money on the program would have just followed suit.

Always amazing to me that guys who make their living ripping off other people would be shocked when they go to jail and no one’s there for them.

PMC

August 23rd, 2011
9:26 am

The 72 number is just the ones they could confirm. This is 10 years. It’s a lot more than 70. Just like it’s a lot more than 5 guys at Ohio State and the USC deal was FAR bigger than just Reggie Bush even though he got all the blame.

The NCAA’s compliance department is pathetically inadequate and they keep it that way.

Larry

August 23rd, 2011
9:31 am

Mr. Ledbetter,

Why are you preventing and removing relevant blogs?

D. Orlando Ledbetter

August 23rd, 2011
9:34 am

Larry — Stay on topic. They are not blogs. They are comments.

T in Chicago

August 23rd, 2011
10:01 am

People seem to forget that a “student athletes” makes a conscious decision that in return for playing a sport they accept the rules and the incentive given by the school. It’s a literal contract they sign. If they think it is unfair, they shouldn’t sign it. We see athletes sign multi-year contracts in pro sports and when they overachieve they want to renegotiate or they won’t play. Don’t see many of them asking to give back money if they underachieve. This same type of mentality is making it’s way down to the college level. They openly agree to provide a service for compensation. They later don’t like the deal, so they just don’t adhere to it.

The student athlete has the advise of his parents and coaches before making a decision. They have to sit through the NCAA primer on what it means to accept a scholarship. They are going into this with their eyes wide open. No excuse for violating a contract. They’re over 18, they’re adults, they’re liable….

I don’t understand why the colleges don’t go after the value of their education if they violate their contract. It’s a civil issue. They should be able to do it.

Just Asking

August 23rd, 2011
10:09 am

D Man
The NCAA will punish MU not for what someone outside the University did, but for what the players on the team did, for what the coaches knew about and covered up or ignored, of for what they should have known.
Jason
I agree 100%!
MARTA Rida

ATL Fan

August 23rd, 2011
10:14 am

Larry, Don’t hold back…Tell us how you really feel :-)

MatthewH

August 23rd, 2011
10:24 am

Dawgfan1990-Coach Shannon actually told his players and staff to stay away from Shapiro. He knew he was trouble and tried to warn against it. Here is the link: http://miami.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1253198
I know that doesn’t absolve him, but I too think he was a stand-up guy and was trying to put a lid on it.

Jack_in_Homestead, FL

August 23rd, 2011
11:06 am

I notice that nearly all of those throwing insults at Miami won’t state which college-football team they cheer for. C’mon..man up !!

Now as to the ALLEGATIONS ……you better keep an eye on this case because quite a bit of it is falling apart like a cheap bicycle. Plus we know that college ballplayers in GA,TN,NC,SC,AL etc have never done/would never do what those bad old Hurricane players are accused of….right??

Larry

August 23rd, 2011
11:12 am

Read fast folks! The kid in the bow tie pictured above is infatuated with the delete button!

Jack_in_Homestead, FL

August 23rd, 2011
11:20 am

Why are people going after the guy because he refuses to let the comments page degenerate into a kids-fest? I’m sure a well-worded argument without personal attacks won’t be deleted. Now I’m sort of new here ….so there’s a chance I may be in error …but I’d be highly surprised if it’s true.

What I found alarming was a the tabloid-type question directed by some onfield writer who asked Bosher if the University of Miami in Coral Gables Florida should get the DP. I mean….really? He won’t give a reply so they go to the extreme trying to elicit a response??

jonkfalconsdiehard

August 23rd, 2011
11:37 am

Those two Adkins and Bosher i don’t have anything on them, just leave them be….PLAY BALL!

D. Orlando Ledbetter

August 23rd, 2011
12:39 pm

Jack — Thanks for the comment. Um, that was me who pressed him about the death penalty. My editors had asked me to get their responses. Had to do my job.

D. Orlando Ledbetter

August 23rd, 2011
12:42 pm

Larry — You’e in the wrong forum. I don’t why you’d think someone would let you come on their job and berate them and think that’s ok? Go somewhere else with that. You want write about Falcons football, you’re welcome.

What's Important

August 23rd, 2011
12:50 pm

D. Orlando, good luck with Larry. Some people never learn unless the lesson is written in braile on the head of a hammer. Thanks for trying to keep the blog about football.

D. Orlando Ledbetter

August 23rd, 2011
1:09 pm

What’s Important – The sad part is that I like Larry. Hope he cools off and takes Commissioner Goodell’s advice and “Gets Back to Football.”

CFB fan

August 23rd, 2011
1:17 pm

This has been going on at Miami for MANY years. Shalala accepting a $50k check from a guy AFTER he was banished from the UM program, this guy representing several UM players in the NFL, and all the allegations are consistent with Miami’s dirty M.O. Once the NCAA finds out about all Miami’s former players having such ‘close relationships’ with the UM program and players and the betting they do on athletics (yes, even, Dade Co. Pop Warner league), it will get very ugly for Miami.
I expect Golden to leave the program as he was lied to before taking the Miami job as well.

Tyrone Shulaces

August 23rd, 2011
1:28 pm

Creative choice of topics, DLed, and I’m a fan, I like your writing style

But dude, how long can you/we cover up & carry water & ignore the Secondary? I mean, this is the Titanic and everybody’s screaming “Iceberg!”

Jack_in_Homestead, FL

August 23rd, 2011
1:46 pm

CFB fan wrote:-

This has been going on at Miami for MANY years. Shalala accepting a $50k check from a guy AFTER he was banished from the UM program, this guy representing several UM players in the NFL, and all the allegations are consistent with Miami’s dirty M.O
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I’ll let others in this forum tell you how idiotic and factually wrong those statements are …..as you seem to have a reading and comprehension problem.
Your wishing for something to be so…does not make it so. Miami’s former players and alumni ARE close to the program but if YOU do know something about betting…pleeeease …..share.

Your “expecting” Golden to leave is what exactly ? What you hope ? From previous experience having dealt personally with Al Golden? Go ahead……,enlighten us !

Oh ..by the way…and the college-team your cheer for would be …?

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Jack_in_Homestead, FL

August 23rd, 2011
1:51 pm

D. Orlando Ledbetter wrote :-

Jack — Thanks for the comment. Um, that was me who pressed him about the death penalty. My editors had asked me to get their responses. Had to do my job.

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Understood

Dr. Warren

August 23rd, 2011
1:56 pm

As a faculty member at USC during most of the Pete Carroll years, I had quite a few football players pass through my classes. When they weren’t doing well in class, or were becoming what I considered too dependent on the athletic department’s academic tutoring, I would pull each one into my office and give him a talk about his real chances in the NFL and why squandering a $50K per year education was foolish. I also tried to convince each that he had his own unique abilities as a thinker–truthfully, each one did. All of them listened politely, privately still convinced, I could tell, that they’d be in several Pro Bowls, if not the HOF. Well, turns out, some got drafted, but none have lasted very long. Should USC have paid these kids a salary? I say no. Then they really would really be deluded about their football futures and ignore their studies even more. What schools should do is actively educate their players on their real chances to play in the NFL long-term, and then instill in them an appreciation of their (free) 200K educations and how much more knowledge, skills, and intellectual development are worth than a roll of cash, a hooker, or a Mitsubishi.

Gay Dawg

August 23rd, 2011
3:33 pm

The NCAA always hides behind the fact that these players are getting paid in education. Has anyopne seen a Miami game in the past 25 years? Education as currency to a UM player is like blocks of ice as currency to an Eskimo. Its useless.

I think schools should pay players in currencies they are accustom too:

Miani: Tech nines and strippers
FSU: Shoes and do rags
Florida: Weed
UGA: Get out jail free cards
Bama: Men’s suits
Oklahoma: Fake employment slaries
USC: Strippers

honest_abe

August 23rd, 2011
3:42 pm

well said doc

Gay Dawg

August 23rd, 2011
3:46 pm

Orlando I love the Bow tie. You and Rodney Ho would make a cute couple with his fedora and your bow tie. Yummy!

PickSix

August 23rd, 2011
4:24 pm

Eagles 47, Falcons 17

What the....

August 23rd, 2011
4:38 pm

Why would falcons care about whether or not players comment about scuzzball miami?

Bird Dawg country

August 23rd, 2011
4:47 pm

you get the pass rush and any db problem gets taken care of….
And bye bye miami…
AL, FL, Aub, and TN are next along with OH St.,FSWho and Oregon.

Paddy

August 23rd, 2011
5:05 pm

ClassicFalcons……the UM is making millions off of football? Don’t think so!!!!!