Falcons to honor ex-Pro Bowlers, including Hall, Vick and Crumpler
Former Falcons cornerback DeAngelo Hall, now with the Washington Redskins, gets a warm welcome from Falcons assistant head coach Emmitt Thomas as he returns to the Georgia Dome as a rival during pregame warmups. Things would get messing later. Curtis Compton, ccompton@ajc.com
FLOWERY BRANCH – The Falcons plan to honor all of the former Pro Bowl players during Sunday’s game against the San Francisco 49ers at the Georgia Dome.
The team, through a spokesman, denied a report on ProFootballTalk.com which stated that they didn’t plan to honor defensive back DeAngelo Hall, who got into a sideline tussle with the Falcons head coach Mike Smith last season.
The Falcons will give each player, more than 30, their jerseys, a helmet and a football. They plan to send the gifts to Hall, Michael Vick and Alge Crumpler, all former Pro Bowlers who play with other teams now.
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Ree Roe
September 29th, 2010
9:49 pm
Great news, although they coulda left D Hall off. Alge has always been a class act & despite his previous transgressions, it’s great to see Mike getting his life together & playing outstanding football.
-REEad it to Roe!!
gsimp00
September 29th, 2010
9:58 pm
Classy move by the Falcons!
Falcon's Fishman
September 29th, 2010
10:02 pm
The Falcons a pure class and glad to see we remember the past greats. i am happy that mike has things going well. he sure made alot of plays for falcons fans.
mike
September 29th, 2010
10:06 pm
Four greatest Falcons ever: Sanders, Kenn, Tuggle, Vick.. Nuff said!
mark
September 29th, 2010
10:08 pm
mike – Favre, Deion, Vick, Tuggle
Reid Adair
September 29th, 2010
10:08 pm
Well done by Arthur Blank, Thomas Dimitroff and the Falcons.
RomeDawg
September 29th, 2010
10:20 pm
Mike Vick set our franchise back atleast 5 years! I wouldn’t honor him by pissing his name in the snow! He is a dog killing (a tale tell sign of serial killers) piece of trash that had ZERO respect for life. He disgraced the Falcons countless times (flipping the fans off, the water bottle, Ron Mexico, admitting he quit trying when the Falcons weren’t gonna make the playoffs, lying to Blank) and we honor him? What a joke. He is a piece of crap thug who has never truly been sorry for anything he has done. He doesn’t deserve the gift he was given and it is truly a shame to see how his career has been meaningless.
tjhook
September 29th, 2010
10:21 pm
“Jam” Anderson, Tuggle, William Andrews, and Vick. Deion gets honorable mention because he didn’t stay in uniform for a long period.
tjhook
September 29th, 2010
10:24 pm
Vick’s 75% was better than almost everybody else’s effort. Not saying he’s my favorite, just respecting his performances.
RomeDawg
September 29th, 2010
10:25 pm
How good could Atlanta have been had we just kept that pick and took Tomlinson? How many times has Vick been a Pro-bowler compared to LT? Who all did we lose when we took Vick, meaning other picks traded to move up to get him? We may have taken someone different than San Diego but I remember seeing a couple of years ago that the players used from that had a major influence to them being good for several years.
RomeDawg
September 29th, 2010
10:26 pm
tjhook,
When your leader plays at 75%, the rest of the team will play at 75%.
Basjordan
September 29th, 2010
10:32 pm
Van Note, Kenn, Andrews, Tuggle…deion didn’t play long enough vick did us dirty…go matt ryan
Hard hittin' Kenny Johnson
September 29th, 2010
10:33 pm
TJ – don’t forget about
1. Steve Bartkowski
2. Alfred “streakin” Jenkins
3. Kenny Johnson
4. Junior Miller
5. eh hem…Chris Miller, often times sacked by his shadow
honorable mention – Scott “just in” Case, Fulton Kykendall, Bobby Butler, Aundray Bruce
get real
September 29th, 2010
10:34 pm
To H#ll with Vick and Hall.
al
September 29th, 2010
10:36 pm
RomeDawg, I hope you feel better, but I doubt it. It’s killing you that everybody dont feel the venom you feel towards Vick.
Hard hittin' Kenny Johnson
September 29th, 2010
10:38 pm
Basjordan’s close – JVN, Bartkowksi, Tuggle, Kenn and PRIME TIME…Vick is #6. He did create huge buzz for Atlanta – I have been to too many home games where the Falcons were in the minority. Vick is the only player who ever changed the Atlanta band-wagoners, whether we like it or not.
Deion in the house
September 29th, 2010
10:40 pm
ATL – this is the blog that I built!
gcs
September 29th, 2010
10:40 pm
That is one celebration I will not be joining.
.
Jason
September 29th, 2010
10:45 pm
Faclons have a poor error in judgment in honoring Vick after all that he did and what he put our fans and city through. He does NOT deserve to be honored in any way, shape or form. Let the Eagles honor him if they want.
D. Orlando Ledbetter
September 29th, 2010
10:47 pm
Deion in the house — Thanks for dropping by. How’s the nation’s capital treating you?
RomeDawg
September 29th, 2010
10:51 pm
al,
You may be right? I don’t see how anyone doesn’t completely despise someone that kills something innocent with no real way to defend itself, for no good reason, but…if it makes you feel better to support or defend a useless piece of sh*t, it’s America and that’s your option.
I had hoped the Commish was gonna make sure he NEVER played another down in the NFL but he crumbled under the weight of political groups such as the Rainbow Coalition and the cronies who still care what Al Sharpton and Jessie Jackson think.
Wasting talent is the worst of all things to waste and Mike Vick is a complete waste of talent.
JD
September 29th, 2010
10:52 pm
Tommy Nobis/Claude Humphrey/Steve Bartkowski/Williams Andrews/Mike Kenn
Billy “White Shoes” Johnson can keep going on and on.
The Eagles QB not even in the top 10.
al
September 29th, 2010
10:56 pm
RomeDawg;
WHATEVER !
Roscoe
September 29th, 2010
10:56 pm
Tommy Nobis
Roscoe
September 29th, 2010
10:58 pm
Tommy came up while I was typing.
Icenupe
September 29th, 2010
11:00 pm
RomeDawg, you displayed your ignorance as soon as you asked what did the Falcons give up to get Vick. I’ll tell u, it was a swap from the Falcons picking at #5 to move up to #1. The Falcons traded Tim Dwight and a second round pick the following year to complete the deal. And just so you know, the Falcons were not interested in drafting a running back that year. The had Jamal Anderson. The names they were interested in included Justin Smith and Leonard Davis. Know your facts instead of revisionist history.
Vick’s story is about redemption. He paid his debt to society and continues to speak against dogfighting for the Humane Society. Maybe someday when u fall flat on your face u will remember the lack of humility and compassion you displayed.
Get Real
September 29th, 2010
11:08 pm
Hall wouldn’t see the ceremony anyway, he’d be looking into a backfiled getting burned.
Get Real
September 29th, 2010
11:10 pm
…on the other hand, if superthug 7 is getting honored, character clearly doesn’t matter. Give D-Hall the jersey.
jim
September 29th, 2010
11:15 pm
Don’t forget about Cannonball Butler and Ernie Wheelright.
notty dred
September 29th, 2010
11:34 pm
Dear Mike Vick, u got haters hatin’ again. Welcome back!!!!!
P.s. Top 5 Falcons 1. Vick the QB, 2. Nobis, 3. Tuggle, 4. Deion, 5. Vick the RB
http://www.tnspsportsnet.com
ReddJonn68
September 29th, 2010
11:43 pm
Our fans really su*k on here. If you are a top notch character organization, you don’t stoop to the levels of low-lifes, you take the high road !!! Just due is just due, we are honoring on the field accomplishments, stop hating & get a life. In case any of you fools haven’t heard Mike Vick said Arthur Blank was one of the first ppl to call him up a cpl of weeks ago to congratulate him on his success ! Get off the short yellow bus Haters.
ReddJonn68
September 29th, 2010
11:49 pm
@ RomeDawg since you are not racist & care so much why don’t you start a soup kitchen out of your back yard !!! For record since his return to society, Vick has donated more time to charities than you have your entire life.
DHM JR
September 29th, 2010
11:56 pm
#1 Steve Bartkowski
#2 William Andrews
#3 Jessie Tuggle
#4 Mike Kenn
#5 Jeff Van Note
DHM JR
September 30th, 2010
12:21 am
Vick had to donate time to charities because he is and always will be an, admitted, FELON!!!
D. Orlando Ledbetter
September 30th, 2010
12:22 am
HERE’S A LIST OF ALL THE ALL-PROS AND PRO BOWLERS:
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/atl/all-pros.htm
DHM JR
September 30th, 2010
12:30 am
ReddJonn68 you are the one who S_CKS!!!!
Don
September 30th, 2010
12:56 am
Who is Ken Johnson? My top 5 is Humphrey,Kenn,Sanders,Nobis and Tuggle.
My fav Falcon...
September 30th, 2010
1:10 am
William Andrews with Claude Humphrey, Nobis, Bartkowsky, Morton Anderson and Billy Whiteshoes and Deon in there somewhere.
Mike Kenn and Van Note should not be forgotten.
33theburner33
September 30th, 2010
1:17 am
Vick might be one of the most entertaining falcons ever…but he lost his chance at being the greatest. Can believe we’re honoring that P.O.S.
33theburner33
September 30th, 2010
1:17 am
can’t*
33theburner33
September 30th, 2010
1:19 am
Rolland Lawerence was a pimp at CB. An all time great corner.
theight
September 30th, 2010
1:20 am
Reguardless of what any of you people say, Vick changed this organization. Excluding the superbowl year in 1998, nobody thought about looking at falcons games. I remember being laughed at for being a fan of a lousy team. Vick not only changed the falcons, he changed the game. Baseball was about to take over until Vick came into the league.
@RomeDawg: Have you notice how many innocent Pitbulls have killed innocent people since the Mike Vick incident? Do you bother to care? If you haven’t realized, google it and see.
P. Bull Terrier
September 30th, 2010
1:32 am
Vick and Sanders may be among the most talented Falcons ever, but neither would rate among the four greatest Falcons ever.
1. Humphry
2. Kenn
3. Nobis
4. Tuggle
5. Van Note
6. Andrews
7. Deon
8. Brooking
9. Bartkowski
10. Vick
Fralic, Kunz, Rison, Crumpler & Riggs could all make a case for the Top 10 too. Ryan, White, and Turner will be knocking on the door in a few years.
P. Bull Terrier
September 30th, 2010
1:42 am
theight – Credit for changing the organization goes to Arthur Blank. Vick was a unique talent and caught the public attention, but he clearly couldn’t handle the success at the time.
Vick didn’t change the game any more than the Wildcat offense. It took teams a little while to figure out how to defend against Vick’s speed, but once one team figured it out, everyone else followed and Vick wasn’t nearly as effective. A few QB’s with speed got a chance in the NFL after Vick, but none made much of an impact. Even Vick’s recent success is more a result of him learning to play as a more traditional QB. Vick didn’t change the game, he had to change to fit the game.
dcobbsports
September 30th, 2010
3:07 am
I am more than disappointed in you all that are so unforgiving in regards to Michael Vic. Who are u to decide who is worthy of being forgiven? Regarding his legacy, since his final admission of guilt, his efforts have appeared to be noble. What motivated him to confession? That we do not really know, we can only assume, but God says he will humble all. So he admitted to being humbled, and he has payed his debt to society. Know I know these forums are for entertainment, but the fact is God’s words and commandments are meant for recreation or entertainment. As you judge and don’t forgive, not some things, everything, in your individual past will not be forgiven. Thus as you feel comfortable holding continuing to hold the sword over his head, every we lie, every act, time we wished bad on our brother, everytime we did not LOVE OUR ENEMY, every time we were late for work, every act of fornication, all sins against us will not be forgiven,and we will be judged the same way!!, So every time a man apologiezes and we dont forgive, The sin in essence is transfered to us.
scottbravesfan
September 30th, 2010
3:33 am
Yeah I’m pretty sure Claude Humphry is the greatest Falcon of all time. Deion was good but Claude was a monster.
Dr. Warren
September 30th, 2010
5:14 am
Would have to say that in 1998 Jamaal Anderson had the best single season of any player in Falcons’ history, with Michael Turner’s 2008 coming in a close second.
Najeh Davenpoop
September 30th, 2010
5:25 am
“How good could Atlanta have been had we just kept that pick and took Tomlinson?”
Vick: 1 NFC championship game, 2 playoff appearances in 4 full seasons starting for the Falcons
Tomlinson: 1 AFC championship game, 5 playoff appearances in 9 full seasons starting for the Chargers
If you go by the raw numbers, Tomlinson is more successful. If you factor in the fact that Tomlinson has played a lot more than Vick, Vick has been at least as successful at making the playoffs.
“How many times has Vick been a Pro-bowler compared to LT?”
Vick: 3 Pro Bowl appearances in 4 full seasons as Atlanta’s starter
Tomlinson: 5 Pro Bowl appearances in 9 full seasons as San Diego’s starter
Again, if you look at the raw numbers, Tomlinson is more successful. If you factor in that Tomlinson has played a lot more, Vick has been able to make the Pro Bowl at a higher rate.
“Who all did we lose when we took Vick, meaning other picks traded to move up to get him?”
The Falcons traded the 5th overall pick (Tomlinson) in the 2001 draft, the 5th pick of the 3rd round (Tay Cody), and wide receiver Tim Dwight. Tomlinson, as you know, is one of the best running backs of his era. Cody was out of the league in 3 years, and Dwight never equaled his 1999 career high stats with Atlanta anywhere else in his NFL career. So, to answer your question, not much besides Tomlinson, and certainly much less than other teams have given up to make similar trades (the Giants, for example, gave up picks used on three Pro Bowlers to trade up three spots to pick Eli Manning).
It’s easy to say in hindsight that Tomlinson wouldn’t have gotten arrested and as a result would have been a better pick, but if you are trying to argue that Tomlinson is the better player, the results — both in terms of wins and Pro Bowl appearances — disagree with you.
HATinGA
September 30th, 2010
5:26 am
6 Falcons on that 1980 team Gr8 year I was 11yrs old and they made me a falcons fan! Thanks guys Well Done!!
Najeh Davenpoop
September 30th, 2010
5:26 am
Also, very classy move on the part of the Falcons to do this, and especially to look past the not-so-happy divorces with Vick and Hall and include them in the festivities.
Najeh Davenpoop
September 30th, 2010
5:31 am
I think I left out the 2nd round pick the Falcons gave up in 2002, which was used on either Toniu Fonoti or Reche Caldwell, neither of whom made much of an impact in the league.
Najeh Davenpoop
September 30th, 2010
5:37 am
While y’all are debating all-time great Falcons… I can’t speak for players who played before I was born, like Nobis, Humphrey, and Bartkowski, but I can rank the best players who have played for the Falcons since the time I can remember:
1. Deion Sanders
2. Mike Vick
3. Jamal Anderson
4. Jessie Tuggle
5. Andre Rison
…with Keith Brooking, Patrick Kerney, and Terance Mathis barely missing out.
Calvin G. Sims, Sr.
September 30th, 2010
6:02 am
We don’t mention Kenny Johnson enough. Cornerback/Safety from Moss Point Mississippi. Number 37. I once say him knock a receiver out cold. He was the original hammer. He hit harder than Ronnie Lott. Good to see him (and the others – including Vick) getting some recognition.
The Falcons are the Class of the NFL.
Go Falcons!!!
Steve
September 30th, 2010
6:35 am
So where does Dunn28 fall into this equation? I respectfully submit JVN, Nobis, Tuggle and Bart. Praise your higher being that MV7 is doing as well as he is. DH21 can go play in Canada for all I care and Alge is still a class act. The 4 gentlemen I mention above gave their LIVES to the Falcons. Can anyone explain to me why Jessi Tuggle is not in the HOF???
RomeDawg
September 30th, 2010
6:40 am
reddjohn68,
If you made a trip to Rome, Georgia you would find that oddly enough I donate to my time and resources to a soup kitchen every week. I own a couple of restaurants and I give back to my community, without being told I have to by a judge. And thanks for playing the race card. It has nothing to do with race and everything to do with humanity. Vick always has and always will be a THUG!!! If Vick weren’t a great athlete he’d be nothing more than a prisoner living off our taxes.
And Icenupe, the Falcons WERE looking at possible taking LT that year due to Jamal Anderson’s never ending injuries and overuse. Know YOUR facts!
Davenpoop, LT was a bright spot in the NFL for years and is still considered one of the nicest guys in the NFL. You are also leaving out the 2nd round pick that I believe they used to take another WR. And to 5 Pro Bowl appearances compared to 3 is almost double. The Chargers have been good every year since the trade while the Falcons have not, due to Vick and his “character issues”.
Bottom line, Vick is trash who doesn’t deserve ANY recognition by the Atlanta Falcons. Have you guys forgot Blank basically sued him to try to get about $20M back? Now he “honors” him? What a joke!
Rupeward
September 30th, 2010
6:56 am
D. Led….as always….thanks for the info.
Davenpoop … You are on point again….. The franchise was born the same year as I was so I’ll speak to some of those that you did not know.
In no particular order:
Jeff Van Note
Steve Bartkowski
Alfred Jenkins
William Andrews
Claude Humphrey
Tommy Nobis
to name a few.
Hey, DLed...
September 30th, 2010
6:58 am
…why does the story say “more than 30″ and then you give a link the reveals more than 50 Falcons have been Pro Bowlers (and yes, I know 50 is more than 30)?
JROLL1
September 30th, 2010
7:26 am
CLAUDE HUMPHREY ALL DAY!
patrick
September 30th, 2010
7:30 am
Why r people still crying about Vick and some damn dogs. Where are u when a pitbull gets loose and mauls a little kid or elderly person.What he did was wrong he’s paid his debt shut the hell up and move on. The Falcons r honoring him for his on the field accomplishments with a sorry azz team. Im loving the fact all the so called experts said Vick cant pass from the pocket. Look what he’s doing now.
tim
September 30th, 2010
7:53 am
Honoring for what?? There is NO honor for being a convicted felon…….That means you Mr Vick. A lazy, lying, druggie, dog killer.
Arthur Blank just made Another bad move. Oh, And Artie, Another sexual harrassment lawsuit coming your way??
Icenupe
September 30th, 2010
8:02 am
RomeDawg, I will tell u AGAIN – NO! The Falcons were NOT looking for a RB. If they were, why would they trade UP to get a QB when they need a RB who was the best RB in the Draft! The names the Falcons were looking at were Leonard Davis and Justin Smith as I said earlier. Chris Chandler was injury-prone (everybody knows that) and they made a move to get Vick and to sell some seats. As a season ticket holder, Vick sold out the Dome EVERY YEAR and had a 20K seat waiting list to see him. He made this organization relevant and Arthur Blank never worry about a blackout. Arthur Blank was one of Vicks supporters in his return to the league and is a class act. The unforgiveness in your heart (no matter how much u puff your chest about your community service) will be judged on you. I guess you have always been perfect and have never needed a second chance in life. I’m glad Arthur Blank has more class than you.
gadawgs
September 30th, 2010
8:04 am
Bart
Andrews
Humphrey
Kenn
Tuggle
Van Note
Fralic
Jenkins
Joel Williams (cause he knocked the living hell out of Staubach)
Sanders
Case
Nobis
Anderson
Eugene Robinson (just kidding…)
Big Dawg
September 30th, 2010
8:09 am
Honor & Mike Vick do not belong in the same sentence. Maybe Horror and Mike Vick would be more like it.
Scottlarock
September 30th, 2010
8:17 am
RomeDawg, what you seem to forget is if we would have taken LT that year, we still needed a QB, Vick is showing what he can do with receivers that catch the ball. Vick changed the game so much that Blanks fired coach Reeves right before Vick returned from his injury because he knew Vick would win games and he couldn’t fire a coach when he is winning games.
Blanks is not stupid, he made so much more money off of Vick then he could ever imagine that he did not care about 20 million, the dome was sold out years in advance, trust me if there was a way for blanks to have kept Vick on the team while he was in prison he would have…
Dawgjohn
September 30th, 2010
8:21 am
NOBIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Dawglasville
September 30th, 2010
8:23 am
Nobis, Van Note, Kenn, Tuggle are a lock. Sanders was probably the best to play for the Falcons but he didn’t play here long enough to be thought of as a great Falcon. I don’t know who would the fifth would be.
Navigator
September 30th, 2010
8:23 am
I guess the owner can’t get it out of his system.
Halsey
September 30th, 2010
8:25 am
ELBERT SHELLEY!!
SirReal
September 30th, 2010
8:29 am
I’m sick of ignorant people on here. Leave Vick alone. Why are you so upset? None of our lives are perfect and when you judge, guess what’ll happen to you when its your turn. Yeah he was wrong for what he did but he paid for those trangressions and is on his way back to being one of the elite QBs (this time using his arm….scary) You cant take away his on the field accomplishments though. If it wasnt for Vick, this team wouldnt be on the level it is now as far as exposure.We have a great up and coming QB now so give it a rest for a change. With that said. Here are my top ten falcons. I’m only 28 but I’m a historian of the game so here goes in no particular order:
1. Humphrey
2. Bartkowski
3. Case
4. Rison
5. Tuggle
6. Jenkins
7. Van Note
8. Nobbis
9. Prime Time
10. Anderson
JSS
September 30th, 2010
8:36 am
@ Najeh…
The pre 1978 teams are easy to breakdown
Offense Defense
1. George Kunz 1. Tommy Nobis
2. Dave Hampton 2. Claude Humphrey
3. Jim Mitchell 3. Ken Reeves
4. John James 4. John Zook
5. Ken Burrow 5. Greg Brezina
Leeman Bennet Era
Offense Defense
1. William Andrews 1. Al Richardson
2. Alfred Jenkins 2. Joel Williams
3. Jeff Van Note 3. Buddy Curry
4. Steve Bartkowski 4. Tom Pridemore
5. Mick Luckhurst
6. John James
7. Mike Kenn
The Years in the Wilderness
Offense Defense
1. Mick Luckhurst 1. Scott Case
2. Gerald Riggs 2. Kenny Johnson
3. Billy Johnson 3. Al Richardson
4. Mike Kenn 4. Rick Bryan
5. Bill Fralic 5. Mike Pitts
The Outlaw Years (Glanville/Jones Run & Shoot)
Offense Defense
1. Andre Rison 1. Deion Sanders
2. Bill Fralic 2. Chris Doleman
3. Chris Miller 3. Scott Case
4. Eric Metcalf 4. Tim McKyer
5. Mike Haynes
6. Chris Hinton
Enigma Awards to Jeff George, Brian Jordan, Beau Bock, and Chris Miller
Return to the Wilderness/ Dan Reeves Era
Offense Defense
1. Jamal Anderson 1. Chuck Smith
2. Terence Mathis/Morten Andersen 2. Jessie Tuggle
3. Bob Christian 3. Cornelius Bennett
4. Chris Chandler 4. Travis Hall
5. Bob Whitfield 5. Ray Buchanan
6. Tony Martin
The Vick Era
Offense Defense
1. Michael Vick 1. Patrick Kerney
2. Alge Crumpler 2. DeAngelo Hall
3. Warrick Dunn 3. Keith Brooking
4. Brian Finneran
5. Allen Rossum
Arthur Blank Cleans House Years
Offense Defense
1. Michael Turner 1. John Abraham
2. Roddy White 2. Keith Brooking
3. Tony Gonzalez 3. Jonathan Babineuax
4. Matt Ryan 4. Curtis Lofton
Ackshun
September 30th, 2010
8:40 am
This is good to see, I just wish all those great players could be present because their hard work made us relevant as a football during a time when we usually didn’t have too much to cheer about. With Mike Vick, I was as shocked as everyone else at what he did. But I think (even though he may disagree) what he went through served him well. He was able to take care of some personal issues and get back on the field and he is doing so well that we may just see another “all bird” NFC Championship game this year. So get off his back he’s paid his debt to society and after his efforts with the Falcons, in truth, he doesn’t owe us anything.
SirReal
September 30th, 2010
8:42 am
@JSS EXCELLENTLY DONE SIR…I completely concur.
CJ
September 30th, 2010
8:46 am
How about we honor Petrino while we’re at it?
Really?
September 30th, 2010
8:51 am
Vick’s 75% is better than mosts 100%? Did I really just see that. Maybe his 75% effort into killing dogs or ruining football teams. But not playing QB. That guy needs to still be locked up. End of Story.
JSS
September 30th, 2010
8:52 am
Pat Peppler > Bobby Petrino
Really?
September 30th, 2010
8:52 am
And actually Vick still owes us about 6 million.
Vuck Fick
September 30th, 2010
8:57 am
Some people deserve and get second chances, we just don’t need second chances cause we got caught dog fighting. That guy should still be in jail.
JSS
September 30th, 2010
9:03 am
@ Really?
Go check your math and the settlement again… Judge Doty was clear on what the Falcons could recover.
tim
September 30th, 2010
9:20 am
They are honoring Vick?? The same low life they wanted to sue to recope his bonus money?
Do they put “dog killer” on the back of his uni?
Do they put “ron mexico”?
Do they put “druggie”?
Do they put “lazy”?
Do they put “everybody loves mike vick”?
Do they put “felon”?
Do they put “vick is sick”?
Do they put “i have herpes”?
Do they put “bad newz”?
Or, do they just put “azzwipe”?
Something is wrong in Flowery Branch…….You hear that Artie?
Willy
September 30th, 2010
9:39 am
JSS -Very well done!
singhisking
September 30th, 2010
9:54 am
man whats going on? this is falcons blog and we talking about vick and hall they are not here anymore, can we talk falcons football.
Falconfan
September 30th, 2010
10:00 am
RomeDawg, you have some personal issues. Why dont you let God be the judge of Vick. He served 21 months in jail, dont you think he had some time to reflect?!?! He was a dogfighter, people act like he murdered someones family. Newsflash: What happens when a racehorse brakes his leg in a race? They kill it! I am not condoning the brutal fighting and then killing of dogs, but LETS KEEP IT IN PERSPECTIVE! DOGS ARE NOT PEOPLE AND HE SERVED ALMOST 2 YEARS IN PRISON FOR IT!
Anyway, GO FALCONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11111
waynester
September 30th, 2010
10:11 am
The guys being honored on Sunday are being recognized for what they achieved in one year of their NFL career, and for that alone–not the idiotic things they said and did before or after. So as far as that goes, I have no problem honoring them for an unusual achievement. That doesn’t mean that I rank any of the 3 men mentioned in the article anywhere near the top of all-time great Falcons. They simply don’t measure up. One of the things that many of the posters on here keep saying is “they became fans of this franchise because of Mr. Vick”. That’s one of the reasons that those of us who have been loyal partisans of the Falcons since the mid-60’s regret the most about the “Vick era”. While he was here (taking up tremendous cap space) he was a “me-1st” player and attracted like-minded “fans”. Fans of Mike, not of the team we love…and that’s still the case with some of you. So what if he’s found “redemption” in the eyes of many–so what if he brought “attention” to Atlanta. As a Falcon follower, I’m only concerned with what he did/failed to do for the TEAM and he’s already admitted giving less than 100% while playing here. That’s it. I hope he’s truly changed his heart but only G-d knows that. All I know is that he and DHall were selfish players while on this team and I’m glad we’re no longer tolerating that attitude from the men we hire. Go TEAM!
drmondo
September 30th, 2010
10:37 am
The comments defending MV by saying ” pit bulls kill people” defense is just silly. Was he out there dogfighting to protect humanity? No! He was doing it to gamble. That’s where I think the league went wrong with giving him a short suspension (the time in prison didn’t count toward his league punishment according to the commish). A pro athelete was involved in a gambling business, which the Black Sox and Pete Rose have shown was very detrimental to the sport. If some gang had pulled MV aside and blackmailed him to throw a game do you think he would have come clean? We’re talking about Vick 3 yrs ago, not now. I don’t think he would have.
I don’t have a problem with sending them the jerseys, etc but think they should have just honored retired players and then they’d have avoided all this.
Bartkowski, Andrews, Case (some of the biggest hits I’ve ever seen), Jamal Anderson, Crystal Chandelier (Chris Chandler), Tuggle, Kenn and Fralic top my list.
Joe Tess Fish House
September 30th, 2010
10:40 am
No mention of Joe Fishback?
1911A1
September 30th, 2010
10:54 am
Thanks for the link, DOL…all those greats on one page. And yeah, Claude Humphrey was a MONSTER.
Gotta love RomeDawg
September 30th, 2010
11:05 am
RomeDawg…where is your forgiveness…Oh, that’s right dawgs have no sense of that because they are what..animals. Forgive me for truth. It is what it is. And the fact is you hate that Vick has risen from the ashes where he was a Dirty Bird and is now Soaring with the Eagles. Study the eagle and you might know that it happens to a very intelligent bird. Doesn’t kiss…….like dawgs. Have a blessed day!
Bambi
September 30th, 2010
11:07 am
I am so tired of people losing their minds when it comes to Vick and the dog story. Righteous White folks who raped, maimed, hung, and castrated Black men and women, and who worked Black children to death children in the South, look at Georgia’s and Atlanta’s ( Leo Frank, anyone ) history. History tells me that you did and continue to do unspeakable crimes against Southern Blacks. You hung Leon Frank in Marietta. I don’t see you teaching your kids about this in your schools. Is it because the monsters who participated in this crime still reside in our midst? What about the race riot that took the lives of Black men in the city of Atlanta in the early 1900’s? Do you teach this to your children at home and in your schools? These were human beings whose only crime was having dark skin in an environment where superority reigned because one had pale skin. How sick is that? Vick did his time. Get off his case! America loves stories dealing with persons dusting themselves off and climbing back in the saddle. He is an American and he is back in the saddle. Get with the program! Your racism screams each time you kick him for doing what is applauded in White society.
Drmondo needs to heal thyself
September 30th, 2010
11:13 am
He/she who is without sin {skeltons in your closet that nobody knows about but you} let him cast the first stone…….betcha can’t throw one. Better drop it while you can. It is what it is. Over. Done. Past it. Move on. Let the man live his life. He has paid his debt to society and he owes you not one d_ _ n dime. Did you send him money on his books while he was in prison? Did you write a letter of encouragement? Didn’t think so. So he owes you nothing but to love you and ask forgiveness. That he has done. Get over yourself and keep it moving. Grownups ought to grow up. Oops….who says age determines maturity of mind.
Dwayne
September 30th, 2010
11:49 am
Bambi, your racism screams pretty loud also. Vick is doing well in Philly, I’m glad, I love Philly. Vick is being honored for his Pro-Bowl selections, nothing more, nothing less. Falcons got the lowly 9ers Sunday, hope they are just as ready for them as they were for the aints.
waynester
September 30th, 2010
12:04 pm
What in the wide wide world of sports is’a goin’ on here?*
Football fans arguing the merits of honoring former players has devolved into screeds on past instances of racial injustice? How does paying men millions to play sports relate to “keeping men down”? Racial hatred is a matter of historical fact but what in the world wide web does that have to do with whether or not Mr. Vick was a blessing or a curse to the Falcons’ franchise? Is chronic misbehavior and lawbreaking a “black thing” now? A cultural norm that our society must accept or an unacceptable aberration? Some posters continue to attempt to minimize the full scope of Mr. Vick’s negative impact on the TEAM by insinuating that “it was just about a few dogs–get over it”(heal thyself) when the truth is much wider and deeper. Players caught gambling on sports/financing gambling organizations are routinely banned from participating in other professional sports leagues. Why is there an exception in this case? It’s as fundamentally unfair as the treatment of minorities (bambi)or as unfair as labeling those who disagree with your views on this matter as “racists”….
waynester
September 30th, 2010
12:04 pm
*Blazing Saddles
keeping it Real
September 30th, 2010
12:35 pm
#4 and #7 all will be better QB’s after they leave the falcons. so will #2. Atlanta is the holding pin for QB’s!!waynester -treatment of minorities drafted as QB in the NFL shamful!!
Tony Lowe
September 30th, 2010
12:40 pm
I,ve been a Falcon fan from day one and Here’s my top 5 list: 1. Bartkowski. 2. Andrews. 3. Humphrey 4. Deion. 5. Jenkins. The names on all the above lists are great. A couple of KJ’s list are suspect as far as greatness goes, but the top 3 of my list has to be on the top 5 list of Falcons greats. The Grits Blitz defense is #6 on my list
Vick Supporter
September 30th, 2010
12:42 pm
The Great Mike Vick Has Returned…BETTER THAN EVER
Vick Supporter
September 30th, 2010
12:43 pm
Unfortunately, I will be at that game. My wife is making me go,lol. I guess I can use it to get some good sleep since the dome is so quiet…
josh
September 30th, 2010
12:44 pm
Vick ruined the Falcons because of his STUPIDITY & now you’re honoring that dog killer! That is total insanity! Thank the Lord he’s gone & Matty is in charge. Next you’re going to honor the 1996 Olympic bomber Eric Rudolph! MORONS!
keeping it Real
September 30th, 2010
12:47 pm
#7 then and #7 now #4 then and #4 #21 then and and #21 after he left two has super bowl and the other to come!! . It show they (the Falcon)don’t know what good looks like. The falcon the house of want to be somebody but never making it ! They dog-ed all three men out and they left and was better for it!!
MSS
September 30th, 2010
12:54 pm
i agree why are we honoring Vick and Hall two guys who have no respect for the Falcons thank god both of them are gone
waynester
September 30th, 2010
1:02 pm
keeping it real
Please explain what you meant by calling NFL shameful re: QBs of color…..
RC
September 30th, 2010
2:02 pm
only saw one other person remember Scott Case. when I first became a falcons fan we watched only to see how times he would just crush ball carriers. Top 5 has to be Nobis, Bartkowski, Van Note, Kenn and Tuggle. Many other great players for shorter periods of time.
I DONT LOVE VICK, BUT DAMN!
September 30th, 2010
2:04 pm
News Flash! None of these clowns love dogs as much as they claim! They eat them in Asia, hunt them in Europe and kill them by the dozen daily at your local pound. Why the fu*k do you think that smoke stack is burning in the middle of the summer! If you really feel that strongly about dogs where they make you hate ANYONE for the rest of your life then I have the cure. First, go to you local pound and adopt all 102 of them. Then, go to ASIA and raid all of the butcher shops and resturant with dog meat! Do that and you can be the Harriet Tubman of Dogs; the title is yours for the taking. MAKE A MOVE!
I DONT LOVE VICK, BUT DAMN!
September 30th, 2010
2:09 pm
And FYI I love chickens and the next one of you guys I see eating one I’m going up side your head because I’m passionate about my birds! Jump on this Bandwagon! (Now you hate everybody!)
33theburner33
September 30th, 2010
2:28 pm
Vick was an awful passer in atlanta.
JSS
September 30th, 2010
3:08 pm
@ 33…
Bob Lee was a awful passer…
Bob Berry was awful passer…
Doug Johnson was a awful passer…
Randy Johnson was a awful passer…
Scott Hunter was a awful passer…
June Jones was a awful passer…
but Michael Vick was a AVERAGE PASSER in Atlanta… He was not awful… Don’t believe me? Go to Pro-Football-Reference.com and type in each of those QB’s names. I think you’ll be surprised.
By the way, type in Bartkowski’s name as well.
There have only been two off-the-chart great passers in Atlanta. Jeff George and Chris Chandler. They were way too nuts in the case of George and too fragile in the case of Chandler.
Bartkowski had 3 lights out seasons, people forget the rest where he could barely stay healthy or would collapse off into “Bart Land.” Poor Chris Miller was just knocked silly, nothing could have saved him. That leave Ryan who to this point has been a above average passer. His last two games have been his best in terms of efficiency and production. Still, we have been here before, he has to put together 6 or 7 games to start shaking the label.
Dwayne
September 30th, 2010
3:15 pm
I love chicken more than Bubba loves shrimp.
DogCatcher
September 30th, 2010
3:53 pm
I understand why Vick, Hall and Crumpler are being honored. I’m glad all three idiots are gone because they wore out their welcome long before they were sent packing. None of them will ever make the HOF and I suspect all three will eventually get kicked off their current teams.
Frankie
September 30th, 2010
3:55 pm
Judge not least you be judged ROME Dawg…
I guess Favre wasn’t a wasted pick….how many playoffs did he take the Falcons to.
It wasn’t VIck that set the organization back it was the organization. This is the first time in over 40 years that the Falcons have put together back to back WInning Seasons. ANd I DOn’t think Vick is 40 years old…
So why aren’t you up in arms about just Vick “supposedly” killing dogs….you were not there you don’t know if he did or even how many. I guess you also volunteer with PETA and work tirelessly to stamp out all dog fighting and dog killing. How many have you taken in. I think it is even more deplorable the number of people in Georgia that own upto 100 animals in one house. living in crap, spreading disease, i don’t hear you up in arms about that. because the media went after a HIGH PROFILE person, you jumped on the band wagon and want to crucify the man for his transgressions. I am sure your life is perfect. It sounds like jealousy for a man who has tried to turn his life around and is living better than you.
JSS
September 30th, 2010
5:18 pm
@ RC…
I don’t like comparing players across decades; but if I was forced to pick a top five it would be:
Andrews, Nobis, Sanders, Rison, and Bartkowski (followed by John James, Vick, Tuggle, Reaves, and Luckhurst). Crazy, lazy, or just plain nuts, put “Bad Moon” with Chandler, Vick, or Ryan in his prime and we’d have won a Super Bowl.
DogCatcher
September 30th, 2010
5:28 pm
If you wanted to honor former great pro-bowl Falcons, why not Steve Bartkowski, William Andrews, Lynn Cain, Wallace Francis, Billy “White Shoes Johnson”, Alfred “Action” Jackson, Alfred Jenkins, Tim Mazetti, Bill Fralic, Tommy Nobis, Jeff Van Note, Jamal Anderson, Chris Chandler, Tony Martin, Eugene Robinsin, Morten Anderson “The Great Dane”, Keith Brooking, “General” Bob Lee, Ron Zook, Claude Humphrey, Mike Kenn and Jesse Tuggle
JSS
September 30th, 2010
5:52 pm
@ DogCatcher…
Most of those are being honored… Cain, Francis, Jackson, Mazzetti, Martin, Robinson, Lee, and Zook were never a All-Pro nor were they selected to the Pro Bowl. Com’on now, I love the Bennett Falcons, but Alfred Jackson was the 3rd wideout on those teams. Shoot, if it is a populatity contest, I’ll take Billy Ryckman and Gilbert Renfroe!
papapump
September 30th, 2010
7:16 pm
when the falcons had vick they had very little talent around him and no good coaches after dan reeves mike vick now has talent around him and will lead the eagles to the playoff and then on to the superbowl
papapump
September 30th, 2010
7:18 pm
Mike vick and deion are the greatest atlanta falcons the rest just a load of garbage
j-bro
September 30th, 2010
7:35 pm
Hey, let’s honor Jim Mora, too while we are at it – he’s going to be in the house Sunday and he took us to the playoffs!
RomeDawg
September 30th, 2010
8:59 pm
Vick was not only a dog killer but brought shame to “our” team multiple times. I can forgive once, twice or even three times, but damn, at some point I think if it looks like a thug, walks like a thug, talks like a thug, acts like a thug and hangs around with thugs….it must be Mike Vick!
I can hear the PA announcer now…..And now introducing the the convicted felon you all loved, who wrecked your club for years…the man too stupid to give his pot water bottle to a tag along thug, too dumb to have a private doctor fix his herpes, the man who ripped the Falcons off $20M and loved you so much he quit during a game and flipped you off leaving the field…..Ron Mexico, I mean Mike Vick.
Sorry I am just A$$hole enough to be judgmental and don’t care who likes it. It’s fun to hear the “forgivers” in the group whine about my hardened heart.
Vick has squandered a gift and I hope he never forgets that.
RomeDawg
September 30th, 2010
9:04 pm
Frankie,
NEWS FLASH: He admitted to killing the dogs. He is a CONVICTED felon. He is STILL a thug. Check out his latest birthday party…..Gunshots rang out like a bell, Vick grabbed his 9 but all he heard was shells, fallen on the concrete real fast, grabbed his possee and stepped on the gas.
Sid
September 30th, 2010
10:16 pm
……….like meat loaf sang, ” 2 out of 3 ain’t bad”
FOGHATT
September 30th, 2010
10:34 pm
I hope sick romedog shows as much venom and hatred to Big Ben., quarterback of the Steelers for raping women(human beings), as he does for MV. No body is stark raving mad about Big Ben raping 2 human beings, and he only gets suspended for 4 games. MV gets prison=double standard.
hiramsaint
September 30th, 2010
10:52 pm
vick will get honored on oct 17 in front of the home crowd
will50
September 30th, 2010
11:00 pm
I don’t know who this RomeDawg character is, but he surely needs to get a bit of humality. What Vick did was terrible, of that, there is no doubt, but do you keep punishing the guy, who has done everthing requried to try and atone for his transgression? is there no forgiveness in your heart? how can you continue to spew such nenom and hatred for Vick, when “the man” died on the cross that you may have a chance of redemption. He died on the cross that your sins may be forgiven. If he is big enough to give his life for you, how can yolu, a mere human mortal do no less for someone like Mike Vick. it’s really sad that you have no forgiveness in your heart. No human is beyond redemption if they truly are trying to make amends for their sins or wrongdoings and Vick is try to as much, why not give him that chance. Not everyone who commits a crime is always a thug in life, some can make a change and I truly believe Vick is on esuch person. I am willing to give him that chance. I hope one day you will look back and admit that maybe, just maybe you were wrong about Vick and that in the end, he turns out to be decent humanbeing.
RomeDawg
September 30th, 2010
11:04 pm
For the record, “Big” Ben should be castrated and never be allowed to play another down of football in the NFL. However, not that I believe him, but Rothlisberger claims to be innocent and has not been found guilty by a jury of his peers. Morons like you, FOGHATT, tend to overlook “small” details such as the word CONVICTED.
RomeDawg
September 30th, 2010
11:10 pm
Will50,
Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me for the 6th time and I am an idiot. I love how you guys make this some big moral issue about my inability to forgive. I simply don’t believe he should be honored by the Falcons. I could give a rats butt less what he does, good or bad in life, just don’t “honor” him because that is a slap in the face to fans of the Falcons who he disappointed over and over again. As for his change you believe took place, the thug he ran the dog fighting ring with was at his birthday party 2 months ago and fired a gun. And you still think Vick is a changed man? My guess is Vick is just simply not a very smart man.
will50
September 30th, 2010
11:19 pm
That guy who was with Vick in the dog fighting fiasco was there on his own, not thru some invite from Vick. As for the gun fight/shots, who can swear that Vick has anything to do with it. that like someone blaming you for the neighbor 2 houses down form you getting shot and you getting the blame. You my friend are sitting to high on your high horse and making Vick to much the villian in all this. Sure he may deserve some blame, but not as much as you are laying at his feet. The way I see it, you can have all your whinning and pontificating about Vick. You can have all your hatred and spew your venom, but in the end, you are only one person and not the representative of the majority. if it makes you feel better, go ahead and keep wallowing in your hatred, because ultimately, you will be the worse for it, not Mike Vick.
RomeDawg
September 30th, 2010
11:24 pm
will50,
Let me climb off the horse long enough to ask you a question. Do you think the Falcons should honor Vick? Let’s take your work, or anyone who has a job for an example. Let that employee “flip off” a client, lie to the boss, cost the boss a ton of $, be sued by the boss and THEN get convicted of a felony. Would that employee be honored? I don’t care how “high and mighty your forgiveness is”, that just ain’t smart.
will50
September 30th, 2010
11:34 pm
Who’s talking about smart. If they “bad” employee did what you said, but inspite of it all did wonderful things for your firm/company/franchise, then yes, i may consider honoring that person, especially if that person exihibited remorse and is making every effort to atone for his misdeeds. He cost the boss a ton of money, but yet, he MADE the boss a ton of money, to me, one hand washes the other. it is not as cut and dry as you are trying to make it. some things goes deeper than mere dollars and cents. We are talking about the fabric of one’s inner being and life here. You may not think that Vick has any moral character, but I beg to differ. but, then only time will tell. You can now get back on your horse and keep spewing your hatred venom towards Vick, but again, in the end, you will be the worse for it, not Vick.
RomeDawg
September 30th, 2010
11:38 pm
And PS will50, according to ESPN Vick is the MOST hated man in sports. You, my friend, are the minority. Careful with that word (minority), some of the small brained folks assume I am being racist. I guess ESPN is being “high and mighty” as well seeing how they used the word HATED. Let’s all pray for their forgiveness.
RomeDawg
September 30th, 2010
11:40 pm
will50,
I asked that question rhetorically. lol
RomeDawg
September 30th, 2010
11:43 pm
Honestly, I love a good debate. That is America. You can have your opinion and I can have mine. You think Vick needs forgiveness and I don’t. I simple don’t believe in honoring someone like him. If you or I had done half the crap in our lives we would be Bubba’s girlfriend in some south Georgia prison.
will50
September 30th, 2010
11:47 pm
Vick is only the most hated man in America be of all the bad publicity he got for the dog fighting, as if that is the worst crime that can be perfomed by an individual. I beg to differ there. I say that all the murder of human beings in Mexico over the drug trade is 10 times worse than anything Vick did with those dogs. i for one don’t place an animal, as helpless as some may seem, over the life of a human being. Vick is the most hated man in america becasue most of us pick and choose those things that we want to dispise most. he is the most hated man in America by what percentage, 45% our of 100% with 40% beng someone else and another 15% to yet another person. yeah, that 45% is a majority, but a majority of what, citizens based along racial lines? of course, you cant get numbers and turn them to mean anything you so choose. i pay no attention to that, for I know numbers don’t always tell the whole story. You tell that most hated stuff tho the citizens of Mexico who have friends and family murdered daily over drugs and ask them who they hate more, Vick and his killing of dogs are the drug lords who are murdering their family members and friends on a daily basis. My friends, it seems that we need to get our priorities straight.
DR. FALCON
October 1st, 2010
12:58 am
1. TOMMT NOBIS: OUR VERY FIRST DRAFT PICK 2. MIKE KENN: SHOULD BE IN H.O.F. 3. STEVE BARTKOWSKI: FRANCHISES ALL-TIME EVERYTHING! 4. JESSIE TUGGLE: GRIFFIN, GA.’S FINEST ATHLETE. 5. DEION SANDERS: ATL’S MOST ELECTRIFYING PLAYER! 6: CLAUDE HUMPREY: ONE OF ORIGINAL FALCONS. H.O.F.? 7. BILL FRALIC: DOMINANT ROADGRADER! 8. GERALD RIGGS: ALL-TIME RUSHER. 9.WILLIAM ANDREWS: INJURIES ROBBED BRILLIANT CAREER EARLY! 10: MICHAEL VICK: ATL’s 2ND MOST ELECTRIFYING ATHLETE!
RomeDawg
October 1st, 2010
7:01 am
will50,
Did someone honor a drug lord at the Falcons game? Your not comparing apples to apples. By honoring Vick, don’t you think you help promote that killing over drugs (failed a drug test while on probation and the water bottle incident). What are you saying to our children when you “honor” a thug like him? Again, I say, you are missing my point. You don’t condone bad behavior, much less honor it.
RomeDawg
October 1st, 2010
7:03 am
And, by the way, Vick was the most hated man in sports, not the world. My guess is the citizens of Mexico could give a crap less about our sports figures. (Why are we talking about drugs in Mexico? Thought this was about the disbelief I have about not honoring a former football player.)
Frankie
October 1st, 2010
8:21 am
NEWS FLASH ROME DAWG: He was convicted of Lying to federal agents and judge. He pleaded guilty to conspiracy charges in “helping” to kill 6 to 8 dogs. WHich means his name was on the mortgage of the land that was used for the dog fighting, and yes he supplied the money. But even AL CAPONE was given more respect and honor for killing human beings than Vick for his conviction.
Even known members of the KKK have received more honors than Vick. But we don’t want to talk about that do we.
It really doesn’t matter what you think, he will be honored I will be at the game when his name is called and I will continue to cheer for him in his come back and great attempts to turn his life around.
By the way …your question. ….Let’s take your work, or anyone who has a job for an example. Let that employee “flip off” a client, lie to the boss, cost the boss a ton of $, be sued by the boss and THEN get convicted of a felony. Would that employee be honored?
Look at the last 16 – 20 years of US Presidents and vice presidents
Keith
October 1st, 2010
11:52 am
I do get tired of the blind Vick support, but I wish the guy well….
I will say this move is much classier than Vick could ever dream about….
Good for Arthur and the Falcons.
GO FALCONS!
RockyMTNFalcon
October 1st, 2010
4:39 pm
J S S
Nice list. You took me down memory lane there.
RockyMTNFalcon
October 1st, 2010
4:42 pm
I dont care about vick, and I wish him well with the Eagles until we play them in a few weeks: then I hope we knock the snot out of him!!!
Big Dude
October 1st, 2010
6:42 pm
Hey RomeDawg,
I’m with you man! Character failure is killing this country. From poiticians to pastors to football players. What you do on the field doesn’t make you a man, it’s what you do off the field away from the spotlight.
RomeDawg
October 1st, 2010
10:29 pm
Frankie,
Did I miss a President in the last 16-20 years that was convicted of a felony and served prison time? And what did the KKK have to do with anything I have said?
RomeDawg
October 1st, 2010
10:31 pm
And thanks Big Dude. It drives me crazy that people want to overlook multiple character issues just because someone is fast or has a good arm. He is still a thug and it is insane that our organization would “honor” him.
FOGHATT
October 2nd, 2010
12:20 am
romedog, no way did I miss the small points about big ben not being convicted, he has enough money to buy his way out of a conviction, u missed the point. I don’t call ur comments “debate”, u cannot hide from your hateful heart. Who do u think said ” Father forgive them for they no not what they do”; He said this while man was yet in his sins, u will have ur day in the mighty court to answer for all the vanity u speak.
Outkast
October 2nd, 2010
2:10 am
I am surely on the fence on this one guys. I love watching Vick play as I am sure each and every Falcon fan across the globe did on Sunday. The question has nothing to do with what Vick is doing now, it is Honoring him for his past, which all of you can agree is somewhat of a shadow on our great club.
If Arthur Blank and the current Falcons administration want to honor Vick, then that is up to them. You have to remember Vick did not personal effect our lives the way he did his teammates, coaches, and the rest of the Falcon administration. The people who were closest to him were the ones who had to deal with this on a personal level. If they wish to forgive him and honor the ON FIELD achievements he had while wearing the Falcons uniform, then why should we judge him.
Romedog I believe you said it best, we all are in titled to our own opinions, that includes Arthur Blank and the Falcons organization. Let them bestow honor on those they feel are worthy.
On a side note, the Falcons are doing great this year and will need our support each and every game. Let us forget about the past and focus on the bright future we now have ahead of us!!! GO ATLANTA!!!!!!
will50
October 3rd, 2010
11:54 am
will50,
Did someone honor a drug lord at the Falcons game? Your not comparing apples to apples. By honoring Vick, don’t you think you help promote that killing over drugs (failed a drug test while on probation and the water bottle incident). What are you saying to our children when you “honor” a thug like him? Again, I say, you are missing my point. You don’t condone bad behavior, much less honor it.
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Romedawg, I am comparing most people pure hatred for Vick over his killing of 6-8 dogs
Vs most people failure to exact the same amount of hatred over the murder/slaughter of innocent human being in Mexico over drugs. The small amount, (allegdely) of drugs Vick had in no way compares to the amount of drugs that is getting across the border. Plus, i wish people would get over this Airport incident of the pipe with the hidden compartment. There was nothing found in it, only it was a pipe with a hidden compartment and we want to crucify vick for that! that is stupid. If the authorities had anything on Vick as far as the waterbottle/pipe is concerned, they would have acted on it. It is a case of “over reacting” over a waterbottle/pipe and nothing more, that is why the matter was dropped, yet we have people like you who want to keep bring it up as it amounts to something when it clearly doesn’t. Clearly, we need to get our priorities right. If Vick wasn’t a celebrity, the deeds he has done would be water under the bridge by now. We glorify wealth and money so much, that any person with plenty of it is always raked over the coals for any misdeeds because we who don’t have their wealth are bitter and jealous. Why? becaue we work hard, sweat, and toil every day for mostly peanuts, when these people, who mostly “white” people consider thugs and uneducated, get millions. It is called jealously and resentment and all this “todo” over Vick is mostly just jealously and resentment, nothing more, it most certainly isn’t because we “love dogs” that much, It is because of the bigotry that we have within ourselves of people we feel are less/inferior to who we are.