At the polls: Fans want John Abraham at OTAs

Philadelphia Eagles quarterback Donovan McNabb (5) looks for a receiver as Atlanta Falcons defender John Abraham (55) pursues in the first half of their NFL football game at the Georgia Dome in Atlanta, Sunday, Dec. 6, 2009. (AP Photo)

Philadelphia Eagles quarterback Donovan McNabb (5) looks for a receiver as Atlanta Falcons defender John Abraham (55) pursues in the first half of their NFL football game at the Georgia Dome in Atlanta, Sunday, Dec. 6, 2009. (AP Photo)

Defensive end John Abraham was not in attendance at the open organized team activity session last Wednesday.

Falcons head coach Mike Smith noted that the sessions are voluntary and that he knew where Abraham was.

In the past, Abraham has seen specialists in the offseason to work on his core area with the hopes of preventing those troubling hamstring injuries.

But you all want Abraham in attendance. In a recent poll, you were asked:

Should veteran defensive end John Abraham be in attendance for all of the “Voluntary” OTAs?

  • Yes, he needs to set an example for the young players. (69%, 680 Votes)
  • No, they are voluntary and he knows what to do already. (31%, 305 Votes)

Total Voters: 985

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falkonfan

June 2nd, 2010
7:55 am

If the coaching staff is okay w/him not being present then I am okay with. Dare I say first! WoW!

Dr. Kenneth Noisewater

June 2nd, 2010
7:59 am

seeing how he wasn’t even a factor last year on the field, i would say YES- get your BUTT UP THERE ABRAHAM!!!

D. Orlando Ledbetter

June 2nd, 2010
8:07 am

Dr. Ken — You’re hard core!

Blue Fender

June 2nd, 2010
8:13 am

I’m not going to tell him to be somewhere he doesn’t want to be, are you? Anyway, I thought he had shoulder problems in the past, not hamstring problems.

He's a big boy...

June 2nd, 2010
8:16 am

…plus, what do fans know anyway…..

Chop Buster

June 2nd, 2010
8:29 am

This is NOT Falcons news. I’m with falkonfan…if the coaching staff doesn’t have a problem with it…why are we talking about it here? OTAs are for rookies to become familiar with playbooks and go through the plays on the field–not veterans who know the playbook. If you’re just looking for information to blog on why don’t create one for discussion on whether Mularkey and Van Gorder are creative enough coordinators to take the Falcons to the next level?

D. Orlando Ledbetter

June 2nd, 2010
8:33 am

Chop Buster — Calm down. I took the poll of the fans and wanted to share the results. We can talk about this.

Blue Fender — What are you talking about? He’s had severe hamstring problems throughout his career.

D. Orlando Ledbetter

June 2nd, 2010
8:36 am

FOR YOU BLUE FENDER (Story detailing ABE’S core, abdomen and hamstring issues. Where did you get that shoulder stuff??? — dol)

http://www.ajc.com/sports/atlanta-falcons/abraham-works-to-strengthen-107587.html

Chop Buster

June 2nd, 2010
8:37 am

I am calm. I just think we can find better topics to blog about than if Abraham should be at OTAs.

D. Orlando Ledbetter

June 2nd, 2010
8:39 am

Chop Buster — Well, I took the poll and wanted to share it. I hate when they do the polls and you never hear from them again. Abraham is BIG. 16.5 TO 5.5 SACKS. The defense needs to improve and he’s arguably the best player over there. So I consider this very important.

alanfalcon

June 2nd, 2010
8:44 am

Abraham is in the twlight of his career and should do whatever to get him ready to compete against younger, faster and stronger OL’s. ON the other hand the DE’s that will take over for him and provide greater rushing capability need to be there to hone their skills. SOS Mike Petersen.

SimpleDawg

June 2nd, 2010
9:04 am

Abraham is used up…..I guess he figures the less the coaches see of him, the less likely they are to groom someone to take his place this year.

SOUTH GA DAWG FAN

June 2nd, 2010
9:19 am

Couldn’t he be there even if he didn’t participate ? just to show team unity and let the new guys meet him . I don’t think he is washed up , and if the coaches don’t care its fine , but it does set the wrong example for a relatively young team . Just my opinon but I would hate to see some of the young promising players imitate Abe by not showing , we would be all over them .

Carlos

June 2nd, 2010
9:37 am

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Carlos

June 2nd, 2010
9:39 am

Given Ab’s history with recurrent injuries, I think is wise to save him for the regular season and playoffs.

Rell(Chris)

June 2nd, 2010
9:52 am

He doesnt need to be there. He needs to work on his core so he can stay healthy like he has the past few years. Better to have him out there and only get 6 sacks then to have him miss 8 or more games and not be a factor at all. You dont always have to get the sack to be a factor in the game.

DJ

June 2nd, 2010
10:03 am

D’led your link confirms what I thought – Abe was pulling a groin every summer. What he really needs is some bodies to occupy blockers and from the looks of it the Falcons brought in some bodies.

As far as being there for OTAs, I don’t care. If it keeps him from pulling his groin then whatever he is doing is fine with me – see ya around mid-July.

nes

June 2nd, 2010
10:18 am

Good morning D. Ledbetter! you got me, great reply on falcons not playing Dallas this year unless its the playoffs. Just wanted to update you on Dez Bryant!, read yahoo sports today, he is excelling at practice! i still say we missed the game breaker player he will be by-passing him in the draft, time will tell–i say he is offensive rookie of the year. nes

D. Orlando Ledbetter

June 2nd, 2010
10:22 am

SimpleDawg — I don’t agree with that assessment. He had 5.5, bug 10 QB hurries. With better coverage, maybe those hurries are sacks. Haven’t seen slippage in his game.

DJ — I suspect he’s off visiting his specialists and making sure he’s healthy. He knows the defense already.

nes — Yes, I’m hearing about the good job Dez is doing in Dallas. His talent has never been the issue.

truth

June 2nd, 2010
10:45 am

Most players, including Dez, looks good in shorts and t-shirts. I heard him giving an interview on NFL network and could tell just by that interview alone that he won’t be much in the NFL.

truth

June 2nd, 2010
10:47 am

Abe could be there coaching up younger players and being there for morale support is hugh. He don’t have to do anything but be a coach/cheerleader. Bottom line, he should be there.

lazydawg

June 2nd, 2010
10:56 am

Predicting a great year for Big John,maybe a very special year, move over Strahan.

Blue Fender

June 2nd, 2010
11:14 am

DOL – I must be remembering someone else. I thought he had an oft injured shoulder (Carolina game back in 06?) and it was still a problem. My bad.

D. Orlando Ledbetter

June 2nd, 2010
11:17 am

truth — I know what you are saying about his interviews. But I like to give those young guys the benefit of maturing. Also, he’s not a big cheerleader guy. If he’s some where working on his body, I’d be cool with that.

lazydawg — Man, when he gets it rolling, it’s a fun thing to watch.

blue fender — I’ll have to look that up, but I do remember a shoulder issue. But his history is groin/hammies, too. So you weren’t out in left field.

Reality

June 2nd, 2010
11:22 am

Wake up fools. Just because the coaches are publicly condemning or criticizing him for not being there, doesn’t mean that they aren’t disappointed or not expect him to be there. Mike Smith is a complete pro, and wouldn’t air their dirty laundry publicly, so don’t assume just because him and the staff haven’t called him out that they are pleased with him.

Reality

June 2nd, 2010
11:23 am

*aren’t publicly condemning…

Terrell

June 2nd, 2010
11:28 am

I’m pretty sure if all of you had jobs that made it optional to attend certain events you wouldn’t go because you don’t have to go. Why then do you try to hold Abraham to a different standard? When all is said and done with it’s only a game, and trust me for those who think OTAs are going to get JA a higher number in sacks you’re only kidding yourself. The only time OTAs are truly important are 1)when a new coaching comes into town. 2)A big change in defense or offense schemes and 3) to give the rookies and younger players a chance to get up to speed. Marlin Jackson just reptured his achillies and is done for the season. If JA pulls his groin or worst and misses actually game time then that’s a major problem, and plus we talkin’ about PRACTICE man. PRACTICE? We talkin’ about PRACTICE!

D. Orlando Ledbetter

June 2nd, 2010
11:29 am

Reality – Smitty is a straight shooter. He said he “knows where John” is at. But I understand your point. Not necessary to call the good people in here “fools” though.

Sly Ty

June 2nd, 2010
11:32 am

Mr.Ledbetter, Mr.Truth, Abraham doesn’t need to coach the younger players, there are position coaches there for that. By the way, lets hope that with improved coverage in the secondary, instead a higher sack total, pray for a higher interception total. Consistent QB hurries lead to INTERCEPTIONS, which are better than sacks 9 out of 10 times. The other 1 of 10 would be the sack, strip, defensive fumble recovery. Let the old man rest, the OTAs are voluntary.

D. Orlando Ledbetter

June 2nd, 2010
11:32 am

Terrell – Had to go get the Iverson practice clip. ENJOY – - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGDBR2L5kzI

Sly Ty — You don’t have to calll me “MR.” I’m not that old.

Terrance X

June 2nd, 2010
11:40 am

i don’t recall the 70’s Raiders having OTA’s

L.Young

June 2nd, 2010
11:49 am

This guy can turn it on when he wants to – that is the problem with him he rarely does. He can dominate a game when he wants to – he rarely does. He hurt his team last year – he is making big wood and he should be at the OTA’s – it’s about the team! Watch him next year, he is always taking his helmet off during TO’s etc – I don’t think he wants to be on the Field, collecting paychecks.

Mr. Phil

June 2nd, 2010
11:53 am

DOl-

Based on your other story (which I vaguely remembered) Abraham missing OTA’s is a non-story that should not have even been voted on. Apparently, he has to go to Vancouver in order to make it through a full season.

If that’s what it takes, that’s what it takes. As a matter of fact, (with last seasons rash of injuries) perhaps trips to Vancouver should be mandatory for all vets and Flowery Branch reserved for the rookies.

Mr. Phil

June 2nd, 2010
11:58 am

Post Script–

Maybe the poll question should have been, should JA be at OTA’s even if it means he will miss 5 or six games next season. #Just saying.

Sly Ty

June 2nd, 2010
12:56 pm

Mr.Phil you make an excellent point. OTAs are good for inexperienced players, and players who are new to your systems. Players who know the systems don’t necessarily need to be there. Heck, that lazy Brett Favre sat out until the 3rd preseason game last season, and had his best season since Mike Holmgren left Green Bay. Let the old man rest.

truth

June 2nd, 2010
1:04 pm

We the fans help pay the salary Terrell. Therefore, WE ARE THE BOSS AND I WANT HIM THERE! Just say’n. lol :)

D. Orlando Ledbetter

June 2nd, 2010
2:20 pm

Mr. Phil — I understand your rationale.

[...] At the polls: Fans want John Abraham at OTAs [...]

NOLA

June 2nd, 2010
4:34 pm

What do ‘Con fans know about football? :)

Delbert D.

June 2nd, 2010
5:19 pm

Vancouver? Is it the healing waters, or what? Anyway, Abraham knows what he needs to do to get ready.

Gamer

June 2nd, 2010
6:14 pm

Again the beatwriters go for skunk-stew, trying to stir-up some funk..Get a real job, do some real sport coverage.

Everyone familiar with John Abrahams groin issues, know how important it is to have him rested and ready for a full season. So he doesn’t need to report to OTA’S…

DW

June 2nd, 2010
6:47 pm

I would rather have Abe working on his core, rehabbing his shoulder, strengthening his groin and hamstrings so he is as close to 100% when he has to face double and triple teams again, when his efforts and talents are trying to win games when they count. The rookies and coaches understand this when apparently many fans don’t. You don’t wear out a thoroughbred before the Kentucky Derby.

We have outstanding coaches to answer any rookie questions and the younger players actually benefit by having more time to work with the better players, also giving the coaches more film and reps to judge them.

In a perfect world, Abe would be as healthy and hungry as T. Gonzalez but… he is what he is, and still probably the best player on Defense.

MaxxFalcon!

June 2nd, 2010
7:08 pm

Look, Abe is old enough to where he knows what his body needs during the offseason, and I for one am all for him taking OTAs off if he’s getting himself ready elsewhere…as long as he’s there for T.C., this doesn’t matter

Larry

June 2nd, 2010
7:43 pm

Leaders lead, followers follow. Abe is a follower like those here whom rationalize his selfish, indifferent actions.

Never forget: behavior never lies!

Terrell

June 2nd, 2010
8:01 pm

Larry,
That’s funny you say that because only a follower would make the statements that you are making. I love it how people try to use be a leader whenever they want somebody to do something. It’s not like he’s on vacation he is working on his core to lessen his chances of getting injuries.

People like you, Larry, take things too seriously and decide to paint a broad brush over everybody else and that is what a FOLLOWER does. They are too busy looking at what everybody does and calls them out on it.

Terrell

June 2nd, 2010
8:05 pm

Truth,
We are the fans you’re right, but we aren’t the boss. We buy groceries from the store does that make us the boss of the cashier? We buy food from the restaraunts, does that make us the boss of the host/hostess or waiter/waitress? NO! It makes us the cusotmer/consumer. We don’t have the power to fire them directly. Even if we were the boss, a boss can’t make somebody go to a voluntary event.

Chop Buster

June 2nd, 2010
8:47 pm

Terrell…you have the ability to see through the B.S. LMAO! Good for you. Some people do come on here and act as though everyone is to bend to their self-righteousness. I’m not going to even get started with DLED because he knows what I think of this thing he started..it’s very disruptive and can get fans worked up over nothing.

Michael

June 2nd, 2010
9:03 pm

If the Head Coach is cool with Abraham’s absence, then I’m cool with it.

gcs

June 2nd, 2010
10:24 pm

Yes, he needs to set an example for the young players AND he needs to get his rear in shape so he doesn’t get injured like he does every year.

Selfish.

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