Quarterback market drying up on Michael Vick
Philadelphia Eagles quarterback Michael Vick (7) is stopped by Atlanta Falcons' Kroy Biermann, and Jamaal Anderson after rushing for a short gain in the first quarter of an NFL football game Sunday, Dec. 6, 2009 in Atlanta. The game was Vick's first in Atlanta since serving a prison sentence for dogfighting. (AP Photo/John Bazemore)
In the ramp up to the 2010 NFL draft, several teams have made some very interesting moves at the quarterback position.
None of the moves have involved Philadelphia’s Michael Vick, who appears relegated to being a third-string Wildcat quarterback for the Eagles again next season.
Loading ...Vick expressed in two separate radio interviews that he wouldn’t mind playing for Carolina or St. Louis. Those two teams don’t appear interested.
The Panthers did release Jake Delhomme, but appear set to move on with Matt Moore at the helm.
The Rams are sitting at the top of the draft and are thought to be salivating over Oklahoma quarterback Sam Bradford.
In Seattle, the Seahawks traded for Charlie Whitehurst, of Clemson and Chattahoochee High, and signed him to a two-year, $10 million deal.
In Cleveland, the Browns dumped Derek Anderson and Brady Quinn. They picked up Seneca Wallace and Delhomme. Anderson landed in Arizona and Quinn in Denver.
The Browns are set to workout four of five draft eligible quarterbacks, including Florida’s Tim Tebow. Cleveland president Mike Holmgren told Tony Grossi of the Cleveland Plain Dealer that the team would definitely draft a quarterback, but probably not in the early rounds of the draft.
In San Francisco, the 49ers landed David Carr.
Even backups Rex Grossman and Shaun Hill found new employers in the Washington Redskins and Detroit Lions.
Charlie Whitehurst has a future with the Seattle Seahawks.
Things have been eerily quiet in Buffalo as head coach Chan Gailey settles in. They have the ninth pick in the draft and could address their quarterback position by drafting Notre Dame’s Jimmy Clausen.
But for Vick, there have been no takers.
One theory is that teams might not be so willing to forgive him for his federal dogfighting conviction.
Another theory is that they can forgive him for the dogfighting, but not for admitting that he was a class room slacker when he played for the Atlanta Falcons.
One last theory is that Vick is not polished enough as passer and the league has clearly shifted to being a passing league.
Tony Dungy, who’s been mentoring Vick, since he was released from Federal prison, is not overly concerned about his football career.
“Mike and I communicate regularly,” Dungy said last Thursday via phone. “We probably talk once a week. I’m really proud of him because he’s had a great year in terms of his personal life and family life.”
Dungy is not sure how the football side of Vick’s comeback is going to work out.
“I know that’s important to him, but more than anything he has put his family life back in order,” Dungy said. “I’m really proud of him for that.”
There are a couple of scenarios that could have Vick on the move. One is that teams might decide to make a move
shortly before of during the draft, which will be held April 22-24.
Also, some teams might wait until before the outset of the season to see if any injuries knock out their quarterbacks.
Tony Dungy
There also is the Minnesota situation. What happens if Brett Favre does decide to stay on his tractor this time?
But for now, it appears that teams are shying away from Vick and his desire to return to starter status in the NFL.
Why are teams shying away from Vick? Do you suspect the Eagles are holding him to drive up his trade value and will move him around the draft? Will he remain in Philadelphia in his Wildcat role? Would he be a good fit in Minnesota if Brett Favre doesn’t come back?
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194 comments Add your comment
RomeDawg
March 23rd, 2010
7:15 am
I hate to say it, but he blew his chance while in Atlanta. He was a complete slacker who never became a student of the game and he even admitted to “not trying as hard” after the Falcons were eliminated from the playoffs one year. He flipped off the fans, had the “water bottle issue” and became famously known as Ron Mexico. Top it off with lying to the owner and dog fighting and I can’t say I am shocked there is not a team after him. Karma?
papafoxx
March 23rd, 2010
7:23 am
Teams realize Vick is a very good athlete but not a very good quarterback. He’s not a team leader and can’t think on his feet without using them to run. A running QB has never been successful and I don’t think they ever will be in The Pros.
Jim
March 23rd, 2010
7:25 am
Really who cares? I use to be a Vick fan but I`ve MOVED on and as of now don`t really care what he does.
falcon 71
March 23rd, 2010
7:30 am
Vick burned his football bridge in Atlanta by his actions both on and off the field. He won’t get another chance
alanfalcon
March 23rd, 2010
7:30 am
Where are all of the Vick fans, I think I remember from last year all of the smack talk about him being a starter in 2010, guess he’s used up all of his HAM. D*#n, where did that come from, hope he just goes away for the year.
Dave
March 23rd, 2010
7:39 am
Hmm… If I was a betting man my money would be on that he just isn’t any good. And that includes throwing and running. Sorry to all you Vick fans who cheer for him because of the color of his skin he just isn’t what he was, and one could argue even then he was not a good qb.
bandwagon
March 23rd, 2010
7:50 am
As my mama always said “You made your bed now go lie in it” and “It takes years to build your name and only 1 minute to destroy it”
liljb1
March 23rd, 2010
7:50 am
look at Jamaal Anderson on that pic………he’s not tackling anybody…………….why is he not gone yet?
Rick Beach
March 23rd, 2010
8:10 am
Don’t care about YKW. Get back to Falcons football.
WreckinBall
March 23rd, 2010
8:12 am
Maybe someone should see if he can catch a pass. He really never was a good QB.
Falcons Fan 30171
March 23rd, 2010
8:24 am
Who Cares about Mike Vick? He doesn’t play for the Falcons. Stop doing stories about a man that left the Falcons ans their fans in a bad position. It is time to move on.
NCFalconFan
March 23rd, 2010
8:27 am
Who cares!!!!
TEAM RYAN!!
coachx
March 23rd, 2010
8:28 am
“One last theory is that Vick is not polished enough as passer and the league has clearly shifted to being a passing league.”
You hit the nail on the head
Dean
March 23rd, 2010
8:28 am
The commies are taking over our country. Who cares about a has-been, ex-con, dog-killer?
tim
March 23rd, 2010
8:29 am
The market isn’t drying up…..Vick is…..like a prune.
SirReal
March 23rd, 2010
8:31 am
He’ll end up somewhere at some point. Enough said.
waynester
March 23rd, 2010
8:33 am
Wow
Actually, these comments are kinda refreshing after the inane postings of the last few years. Gotta go with the above posters on this one DLed– I’m for looking forward, not back. No more Vick “news”, please….
anthony
March 23rd, 2010
8:36 am
Matt Ryan is a way better quarterback than vick and i’m actually happy that vick is no longer a falcon.
Duke
March 23rd, 2010
8:41 am
Most everyone in the South…”hated” Vick from Day 1 – as in the day he got drafted & long before the dogfighting stuff. So basically, the posters are right. No one cares.
David
March 23rd, 2010
8:46 am
I gotta go with “who cares”.
Barrack "Hussein" Obama
March 23rd, 2010
8:52 am
I am signing a new bill tomorrow FORCING the Falcons to re-insert Michael Vick as their starting quarterback.
Pi$$onaDAWG
March 23rd, 2010
8:56 am
Can you name other 3rd string benchwarming, non-clipboard carrying QB? WE DON”T CARE WHAT VICK DOES or DOESN’T DO ANYMORE.
Bluestreak
March 23rd, 2010
9:00 am
Vick not being a polished passer was an issue when he was here. We paid the man like he was Manning or Favre when he performed like David Carr. If he was anything more than a running back that can pass some, there would be 10 teams lined up to get him. Super talent negates baggage almost every time.
Old Coach
March 23rd, 2010
9:00 am
If Mike Vick could be seen as a starting QB in the NFL then almost any wrong that he may have committed would be forgotten. With that being said, he can not play in the league as a starter. IMHO he is a back-up at best. The man simply is NOT a starter any longer!!!
BFA556
March 23rd, 2010
9:08 am
Michael should play a year or two in Canada, where he would surely be a starter, and polish his skills against lesser defenses. He’s still young enough that he could come back to the NFL in 2012 and give it another try. By then all of these retreads, has-beens and never-will-bees will have been cut again.
Hamp
March 23rd, 2010
9:09 am
I was a big vick fan bought two jerseys and his shoes. But vick did this to himself and my beloved falcons. I wish him well but I have moved on I really don’t care if he ever plays again. I am black and I don’t care about color either.
NO ONE PLAYER IS BIGGER THAN MY FALCONS!!!
GO FALCONS!!
March 23rd, 2010
9:09 am
You can take Vick out of Newport News, but you can’t take the Newport News out of Vick. LOSER
GO FALCONS!!!!
FALCONS SORRY
March 23rd, 2010
9:10 am
DOB! ANY ONE THEM NFL TEAM ALL THAT DONT GO AFTER MIKE VICK IS CRAZY OR STUPID! OH THAT RIGHT! WE GOT THE DUMBEST OWNER IN THE WHOLE NFL RIGHT HERE IN ATL! HOW DID SOME BODY THAT DUMB GET SO RICH TO BEGIN WITH! THANK GOODNESS AT LEAST THAT OUR PRESDENT HAS WON FREE HELP CARE FOR ME AND ALL THE REST OF US AND CROOKS LIKE THAT SORRY BLANK WILL HAVE TO PAY FOR IT! THEY ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THIS WORLD THAT NEED THAT MONEY TO PAY FOR DOCTORS WHEN THEY SICK THAT BLANK KEEP ALL TO HIM SELF AND GIVE TO LITTLE SISSY BOYS LIKE CRYIN RYAN! BLANK DESERVE TO LOSE EVER DIME HE EVER MADE WHO THE CROOK HE IS! THERE IS PEOPLE STARVING RIGHT NOW IN HATEY AND BLANK PROBABLY WOULD NOT GIVE THEM A PENNY TO HELP ANY OF THEM EVEN GET A COLD CHICKEN DINNER TO EAT! VICK WAS NOT YOUR QUARTERBACK BLANK! HE WAS THE PEOPLES QUARTERBACK! YOUR RICHES ARE FINALLY GOING TO GET SPREAD AROUND TO THE PEOPLE WHO QUARTERBACK YOU STOLE FROM THEM! YOU LOOK REAL DUMB FOR THROWING A STAR LIKE MIKE AWAY BLANK! DUMB AINT THE WORD! YEAH THAT REMIND ME! PANT ON THE GROUND! PANT ON THE GROUND! THAT SORRY OLD MAN BLANK LOOK LIKE A OLD FOOL BECAUSE HE ODEED ON EXLAX AND PRUNE JUICE AND LITTLE BLUE PILL AND HAD TO DROP HIS PANT ON THE GROUND! AKS YOUR OLD LADY TO HELP YOU PULL THEM BACK UP AND STOP EMBARRASSING YOUR SELF BLANK!
Hamp
March 23rd, 2010
9:16 am
Falcon sorry you can’t be serious. Where is your coloring book. Stick to that. Attempting to put your thoughts to words is very challenging. Draw us a picture and color it.
Matty Ice
March 23rd, 2010
9:16 am
Who cares about Vick? Old news. We got Matty Ice!!!
http://sportscrack.com/tees_mattyice.html
falcon fan
March 23rd, 2010
9:20 am
Ledbetter ****Breaking news**** Mike Vick does not play for Falcons anymore. He killed dogs for fun then lied to the Feds he is now a Felon. Stop posting stories about him no true Falcon fan gives a damn.
Elvisinthehouse
March 23rd, 2010
9:26 am
I think everyone that talked down on vick will eat there words.When he get a shot at being the #1 Q.B,i think he will be a winner.Its just a matter of time,he will be ok.
sharon
March 23rd, 2010
9:27 am
The sports writers in this city sure do spend a lot of time writing about a person who hasn’t played for them in three years! Good grief, get a life and move on.
The Udder side!!
March 23rd, 2010
9:27 am
Why not focus on Matt ” The Gay Blade” Ryan instead of feeding the mouth breathers with another cheap shot at MV7??? He has been gone for three full season… I guess this goes to show what these ball Janglers think…The Falcons want to sell Matt Ryan, Why not try and do it without always Pissing on Vick? Maybe when Ryan actually wins the division or Heavan forbid a PLAYOFF game you can focus on the guys that are here . But until then lets focus on the guy that won the games that #2 can’t!!!
**Frederick(Bailey)Douglass**
March 23rd, 2010
9:29 am
I usually don’t get involved in Vick bashing, but hey, I’ll do anything to blog football.
Vick…you should just be happy to be making the $$ that you will receive next year, given your circumstance. I can remember when MV7 started. He wore a suit, had a clean cut…had a PR rep that kept him in line. Somehow, the money and the fame changed him.
Jump to THIS year…he goes on some radio show and says that he would love to stick it to the Birds twice a year. Dude, the ONLY FANS YOU HAVE are in ATL. You should be begging to come back here and play DB and return punts for Arthur Blank. Instead, you STLL have not learned your lesson.
Vick will get his shot in Philly before its all said and done, and he will…still miss receivers running outs, and 15 yard stops (usually high). He will still have too many nagging injuries to really be effective by week 8 because he runs too much…he will still use the word “I” 3 times as much as he uses the word “WE”. Why? Because he just dosen’t get it…
Tonyg
March 23rd, 2010
9:30 am
Typical whinning Vick haters. Can’t you all see that the writer writes this trash just to get you all riled up. Here this, Vick will start somewhere in 2010 because he is just that good no matter what you haters think. The old pocket passer is dead and you haters can’t stand it. Vick’s the man, has broken numerous records in the NFL and will continue to. I can’t wait until he signs with his new team so that I can go out and buy what will once again be the top selling jersey. If for some reason he stays with Philadelphia, then Mcnabb had better get ready to ride the bench. Vick’s haters are limited to a few bloggers, hypocritical, aligator shoe wearing, mink coat wearing, leather belt wearing, meat eating animal lovers (yeah right, give me a break). The media just trys to make it look worst than it really is. Keep charging Vick, you do have fans who know what you can do and would rather watch you in a losing effort than any other QB in a winning effort.
True Fan!!!
Scholardude
March 23rd, 2010
9:33 am
I think i can see what FALCONSORRY is trying to say… his references to Arthur Blank are a merely a metaphor for the afflictions of an overly capitalistic society. He’s trying to warn us about the perilous dangers inherent with our own avarice, and he is channeling the irony in the whole Michael Vick situation as the springboard. You see, FALCONSORRY sees that Vick represents the potential within each one of us, and in turn represents our own uncontrollable subconcious desires to self sabotage based in turn on our own self loathing. Had the controlling powers of our society, represented in this parable by Arthur Blank, merely reached out a helping hand… no wait… whoops, my bad. FALCONSORRY is just a semi-illiterate a-hole who needs to ditch the #7 jersey and get hooked on phonics. Again, my apologies. Carry on…
The Udder side!!
March 23rd, 2010
9:35 am
BTW… I wonder if these crappy Falcon fans remember when MV7 came to town wioth the eagles and put up a couple of TDs against this Scrub D????? LOL
PMC
March 23rd, 2010
9:37 am
The market for Vick won’t really develop until training camp. The Eagles know this and that’s why they signed that tender. They will keep him if they have too but they want to try and get something out of thier investment. Depending on what happens this summer he might get a shot and they could come out of it with something a pick or a player or both. It’s going to take a little time though.
PMC
March 23rd, 2010
9:38 am
sorry not tendered, that’s why they paid his roster bonus.
just wondering
March 23rd, 2010
9:39 am
Let’s be real, if anyone thinks all those QB’s are better than Mike Vick right now, they are letting their emotions take place of common sense. Matt Moore, Sam Bradford, Tim Tebow, etc, etc. Come On Son!
Yes Mike has paid his price but from a football perspective no one who truly watches the NFL can not say he can not still play at this level.
Pat
March 23rd, 2010
9:41 am
Matt Ryan is such a better QB. He does what is best for the team and he trys and is not a slacker. Who cares about Vick? He dug a deeper grave by telling people he did not try his hardest while he was here. I am so glad he is gone, I will actually go see the falcons now.
Old Coach
March 23rd, 2010
9:45 am
I guess that Vick will sign with a new team as soon as he gets through with all of the offers for his service. Have a clue, he can not play as a starter any more. The Falcons are a TEAM now with quality leadership. Forget Vick, this team is moving in a new direction, a winning one!!!
My Pitbull is my Best Friend
March 23rd, 2010
9:49 am
Vick who???
tj
March 23rd, 2010
9:49 am
There is no need to explore conspiracy theories here. The reason Vick will NEVER land a starting job in the NFL again is very simple – and anyone who can’t grasp this is a moron. First, it has nothing to do with his criminal past – look how many times other NFL teams were willing to give hoodlums like Pacman Jones, and others a second chance. If you CAN produce on the field – there is always a team that is willing to give you another shot – whether you are a criminal or just a major disruption (i.e. T.O.).
Here’s the sobering truth and I hope that all the Vick loyalist – will stop screaming for just a moment – and let this reality sink in: Mike Vick will never again be a starting QB in the NFL because…. HE CANNOT READ DEFENSES CORRECTLY AND HE CANNOT PASS THE BALL ACCURATELY….PERIOD!
Did we all forget the last few years Vick was here. There was major talk among many Falcon fans that what we should do is cut Vick and keep Matt Schaub. However, most of us were resolved that Vick would stay because Arthur Blank had jumped the gun – giving Vick a Trillion Dollar/Trillion Year Deal – so we were stuck. But the truth is – ALOT OF US WERE SICK OF VICK BEFORE THE DOGFIGHTING THING EVER HAPPENED – not because of his attitude – his lack of leadership – or his known relationships with thugs – but simply because – HE CANNOT READ DEFENSES CORRECTLY AND HE CANNOT PASS THE BALL ACCURATELY….PERIOD!
I know it sounds weird – but I am now extremely thankful the Falcons blew up a few years ago. It was the only way we could get Vick out of the drivers seat – and start rebuilding this team for the future!
Liam
March 23rd, 2010
9:53 am
I am tripping how all these so-called ‘football fans.’ They really are drinking the Matt Ryan kool-aid. No ACC titles or passing records before he was drafted, no playoff wins as a starter (unlike Vick in first year as a starter), no falcons passing records or efficiency rating, no rookie or sophmore of the year, no nothing.
What happens when you don’t have a bonafide running back to hand the ball off to 350 times in a season… Answer, see Matt Ryan. Unlike Ryan, Peyton and Brady can win with their arms. Until Ryan proves himself, he is just another thug that has stolen money from Authur Blank.
BTW, Vick was paid because he created a buzz that warranted a waiting list for season tickets, sold out the dome, put the falcons in primetime for TV money, and led the league in jersey sales. It had nothing to due with his passing accuracy. While I will not call Ryan gay, he damn sure is not the man.
GIVE ME A BREAK
March 23rd, 2010
9:53 am
Vick was good high school and college quarterback but should have moved to defenseive back in pros. He was never a pro quarterback.
Old Coach
March 23rd, 2010
9:59 am
tj
Well said and the absolute truth!!! Even the last of the Vick lovers have to admit that NOBODY is making ANY effort to acquire the lazy has been!!!
GIVE ME A BREAK
March 23rd, 2010
9:59 am
Matt Ryan has great character and morals and deserves better than to be compared to a thug and slacker like Vick.
Mike
March 23rd, 2010
10:04 am
WHO CARES!!!!!!!!! How about a story on sports that are relevant to Atlanta sports fans not some idiot who screwed over the fans he HAD in Atlanta!
SAtlantan24
March 23rd, 2010
10:07 am
Liam, What do ACC (or any college) records have to do with being a great NFL QB, and what records did Vick break anywhere? I think record breaking college stats that dont translate onto the NFL field are more associated with bust than superstar
Hey Rednecks
March 23rd, 2010
10:08 am
Lets see….Big Ben RAPED two women and will be back in the NFL next year….yeah…how could Vick ever imagine that he would be able to return to such a moral bastion as the NFL.
ATLshirt.com
March 23rd, 2010
10:13 am
WE WANT SHOCKLEY !!!
Liam
March 23rd, 2010
10:16 am
GIVE ME A BREAK
Life is a circle. We all can agree that the QB is the unofficial ‘leader’ of the team. Early on, QB’s did it with their legs. It literally took an act of congress to implement passing in the game to reduce deaths and paralyzing injuries on the field.
As time progressed, football went to the drop back non-mobile gun slinger (Bradshaw/Marino). Then exotic defenses forced offenses to go to a QB that could move in the pocket (S.Young/Farve). Now my friends, freak of nature athletes (like Reggie White/Dwight Freeney) are forcing offenses the go to QBs that are good runners too (Vick/V.Young).
The goal of the team is to win. Whether you like or not, you have to change with the times or you will get left behind. Whether you like or not, Vick was and still is a QB. He may not fit our indivdual opinion of one which is fine. Troy Aikman, Steve Young, Joe Montana, Matt Ryan (lol) et al couldn’t do it… It was Michael “the dog-killer” Vick who led his team victory on the road at Green Bay, giving the Packers their first ever home loss in NFL history.
falconsforlife
March 23rd, 2010
10:17 am
Who cares? Stop writing about Vick!
The league has moved in a different direction and Mike was never an accurate passer. He’ll be nothing more than a gimmick back up for a few more years until he eventually gets cut from a terrible team.
You can’t lie to a franchise, commit horrible crimes, and then admit you were incredibly lazy for the majority of your career and expect to be handed a starting job in a league that has passed you by. I’m thankful he did what he did. Our team is much better off without him, and hopefully the “fans” who were chanting “We want that piece of trash” will realize that when our Falcons go deep into the playoffs this year with a real QB.
They’ll be back on this bandwagon so fast, just like all of those ‘Aints fans this year.
Barney Strickland
March 23rd, 2010
10:20 am
I volunteer for the Humane society in my county. We adopt out puppies and kittens/ dogs and cats every other Saturday in front of Petco. I read the federal indictment the day it came out. It made me nauseous…..and very angry. I resolved to never watch another NFL contest with this “man” involved- regardless of teams or game importance. IMHO, he isn’t sorry for his actions. Instead, he’s sorry he got caught. Time to stop presenting stories about this no good SOB !!
Tale of Woe
March 23rd, 2010
10:23 am
Why are we still writing about Vick in an Atlanta paper? I don’t see any articles on Brooking, Boley, Schaub or Elam (I think he retired last week). This article is pathetic (didn’t even read it, just the thought that this is all we have to talk about it pathetic). We need writers who focus in on Atlanta sports. I could care less about Philly and their issues.
TIGER
March 23rd, 2010
10:26 am
I made my bed, and now I can’t lie in it anymore.
Jim007
March 23rd, 2010
10:26 am
Barney,
You are 100% Correct.
We do not care about Vick and care even less to hear anything….Period…about him.
Time to let this loser go…..
davee
March 23rd, 2010
10:29 am
I didn’t know Big Ben was a convicted felon like Vick
Liam
March 23rd, 2010
10:29 am
@ SAtlantan24
1st Question Answer: absolutely nothing, totally agree. 2nd Question answer: Are you serious???
I am just pointing out Ryan should of been selected in 2nd or 3rd Rd. The Falcons/fans/media/city were so ready to put up an ‘image’ that was 180 degress opposite of Vick, they made a very poor choice in Ryan. But they did succeed at putting up a different ‘image.’
Ryan may prove to be a winner in the long run (i hope so). But Com’on son… these people need to stop hanging from his scrotum sack. My personal definition of a leader is as follows: One that does by example so well, that he finds himself out front… Ryan doesn’t fit that definition on the football field. I don’t care how clean he is off the field.
SaintsLSU
March 23rd, 2010
10:30 am
Falconsforlife – I would never jump on a Falcons bandwagon, neither would any of my fellow Saints fans. Our fans are the MOST loyal fanbase in the NFL today. And BTW, you really can’t use the A word anymore.
As for Vick, I’m glad he’s washed up, because nobody struck fear in my heart like Mike Vick did in his prime. We just couldn’t beat him (until ‘06 when we swept ya’ll). And I do remember MV7 flicking off his ATL fans after the Saints came into the GA Dome and spanked the Falcons.
Halberstram
March 23rd, 2010
10:31 am
Interesting article but not overly relevant to the Falcons. Yes, I know Vick was a huge part of the Falcons history and had some ups and downs with the teams, but I don’t think a blog dealing with his potential suitors is necessary. I’d rather hear about something relevant to the team today then a former player that elicits such a strong reaction from fans.
All I'm Saying Is...
March 23rd, 2010
10:31 am
If I remember correctly, DOB had several questions for us to consider on this blog and none of them had anything to do with MV becoming a Falcon again or comparing him to Matty Ice so…to get back on topic….
1.) MV needs to quit talking publicly about what his aspirations are as he is still under contract with the Eagles. Every word he says makes him sound as if he’s ungrateful for the chance he has with Philly. The reason why a re-tread like Rex Grossman got picked up is because he is willing to be a back-up and not make any noise if he doesn’t win the job whereas MV keeps yapping publicly about wanting to be a starter.
2.) Re-treads like David Carr (who has done nothing), Shaun Hill (ditto) and Rex Grossman getting a job actually supports the notion that someone should invest in MV because we all know that, for example, the Bears made it to the Super Bowl in spite of Rex not because of him and that Grossman’s passing capabilities and accuracy were no better than MV.
3.) Of course Philly is waiting to see if interest percolates for MV and, if so, they’ll trade him for draft picks as McNabb is their starter and they have his successor waiting in the wings. MV was picked up simply to throw a curve at their competitors a role MV performed well.
4.) Farve will wait until mid-August be he will return to Minnesota. If for some strange reason he doesn’t, Childress already has a mobile and largely inaccurate QB on their roster who already knows the system (Jackson) so they will not pick up or trade for MV.
LET’S GO FALCONS!
JB
March 23rd, 2010
10:33 am
Michael Vick is a PR nightmare. I applaud him for “righting” himself. Bad decisions have consequences
and he his paying the price. I don’t feel sorry for him because HE made the mistake. I do believe if he had been coached by say Dungy early in his career, he might have avoided this if word had “leaked” to Dungy. Very average NFL QB who would dazzle 3-4 times a game, but never would have won a super bowl. To erratic.
spanky
March 23rd, 2010
10:34 am
Jamaal Anderson is softer than charmin…why does the AJC insist on printing articles on MV? He is finished! Every team that picks him up will be worse off than before; he needs to be realized for what he is, that is, a thug with all the talent in the world with no intangibles.
The Man
March 23rd, 2010
10:35 am
Liam wake up!!!! Reggie White and Dwight Freeney ? about fifteen years apart, You are football stupid
Atlsuperman
March 23rd, 2010
10:39 am
Ok ok. Stop bashing Vick, Yes He did some horrible things. and was sent t o jail, but he is also the one who many of use thought would be the one to bring a ring to atlanta. this artical is not just about vick it is about the weak qb market and vick just so happens to be a qb. and a damn good one. i mean hello he did toast us when Philly came to Atlanta. . . . vick aint a loser her just made some bad choices. I dont see anybody throwing Salt on big Ben or Anyother NFL criminals. if ur gonna throw Salt do it fairly!
Liam
March 23rd, 2010
10:39 am
@ SaintsLSU
“…nobody struck fear in my heart like Mike Vick did in his prime. ” He struck that same fear in all opposing teams. That is why he was(is) such an enigma. But these PETA pushing Christians who don’t know the first thing about forgiveness have no idea what an impact he made to the NFL.
Atlsuperman
March 23rd, 2010
10:42 am
and why does ppl keep saying when vick was in his prime. . . The body does slow down with age but footbal player body slow down beccause of the abuse it takes every weak. Vick was in jail for two years i doubt he is out of his prime. He has had 2 years of rest.
Liam
March 23rd, 2010
10:49 am
@ The Man
The definition of stupid is consciously making a decision that one knows will have adverse effects. Nope, that’s not me.
But let’s tak about another definition, ignorance… speaking about things that above one’s comprehension level. Obviously, Reggie White was one of the first of what we see today as the prototype DE today. Because of your ignorance, you couldn’t comprehend and understand the poste from contextual clues. Also, Vick was the first prototype (of the QB of tomorrow) to be allowed do what he does, run! V. Young is the next generation of that (what happened to the great passing and leadership of Matt Lienart).
In less than 10 year my ignorant friend, most NFL teams will have these type QB’s with just a little more accuracy in the passing game. Now that you have been schooled, you may speak now.
Dan-O
March 23rd, 2010
10:50 am
My, my! Michael Vick remains an incredibly polarizing figure in the ATL sports scene. Why can’t we just let him go?
More importantly, why do we feel so driven to post racist comments on the blog? Let’s move on, people!
FalconTransplant
March 23rd, 2010
10:50 am
ALL IN FAVOR OF NOLONGER READING STORIES ABOUT VICK SAY ‘AYE’
KB
March 23rd, 2010
10:50 am
Wow. No wonder Atlanta has been a bad sports town. Only one championship (Braves)for the town. These fans are terrible.
Please let MV alone. MOVE ON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
FalconTransplant
March 23rd, 2010
10:51 am
AYE
FalconTransplant
March 23rd, 2010
10:52 am
“I”
MV7
March 23rd, 2010
10:55 am
‘I’
JA98
March 23rd, 2010
10:56 am
.I.
dub366
March 23rd, 2010
10:56 am
Why are you all so concern about Michael Vick?
thunderbull56
March 23rd, 2010
11:01 am
“OOOOOOOOO CANADA!”
MV7
March 23rd, 2010
11:03 am
Time will tell WHO I AM AND WHAT I WILL BE, But with God I am MIGHTY AND HE WILL PUT ME OVER MY EMMIES (THE GREAT DAVID). I WOULD LIKE TO THANK ALL THAT SUPPORT ME ON THIS JOURNEY AND MAY GOD BLESSING ABIDE WITH YOU’LL IN ALL THINGS TO COME THE GOOD AS WELL AS THE BAD. I WOULD LIKE FOR THE WRITER FROM AJC TO ALLOW ME TO BE SEEN IN MY GOOD WORKS SOMETIME, IF COULD PLEASE WRITE SOMETHING UPLIFTING ONE TIME. TO ALL FALCON FANS LOVE YOUR TEAM AND I WILL LOVE WHAT EVER TEAM AM PLAYING FOR. BIG O LEDBETTER I HAVE 2ND STRING NOT THIRD STRING AS YOU STATED AND WILL BE A STARTER IN THIS LEAGUE AGAIN.
falconsforlife
March 23rd, 2010
11:06 am
SaintsLSU – I was referencing how quick your fanbase was to hop back on that bandwagon of yours last year. I had never seen so many Saints “fans” with brand spanking new gear than I did in our dome last year. Our fanbase will be the same if we get into a similar situation, since that how Atlanta is.
And you will always, ALWAYS, be the ‘Aints.
Delbert D.
March 23rd, 2010
11:09 am
Vick needs to go to Oakland. That is the perfect environment for him, plus the owner is crazier than Howard Hughes was in his twilight years.
SAtlantan24
March 23rd, 2010
11:16 am
Liam, your an idiot. Comparing Mike Vick and Matt Ryan in terms of displaying the capabilities of a leader, is a stupid argument. The only statistic he ever put up in the NFL that may be a record is the season he RUSHED for 1000 yards…. So VY and Vick are the next generation of Quarterbacks??? Thats news to me and alot of the other people on this board as well (And im a VY fan) Liam its to early to be hitting the bottle.
FalconsFan
March 23rd, 2010
11:22 am
Quantavious Blash ,
Did you miss the part about Ben Rapeaburger meeting with Goodell? Remember Vick was also treated in a similar fashion, Vick lied and was later arrested, the same thing could happen to Ben.
Mr. Turnip-Green Jeans
March 23rd, 2010
11:40 am
If you ever want to find the dumbest, most illiterate bloggers out there, just check out the posts of people who support Vick. AMAZING illiteracy for this day and age.
These folks need to forget about Vick and get back in school!
TROTTINGHOME
March 23rd, 2010
11:46 am
Didn’t Vick just win some kind of award for…COURAGE!!
Give me a break….
TheAntiMe
March 23rd, 2010
11:52 am
When no one visits your blog just pull out the ole MV7 topic. Hey, it got me here.
WonderDawg
March 23rd, 2010
11:52 am
Liam, Ryan’s a thug?? If Ryan’s a thug, what word would you use to describe the watch-stealing, pot- smoking, dog-fighting, herpes-spreading, bird-flipping Vick? I’m really curious …
Free Vick!
March 23rd, 2010
12:07 pm
Arthur Blank needs to bring Vick back for a backup—Ryan gets hurt all the time and is too slow to run the wildcat. But, it will take a ton of money to get Vick back, since he’s still mad at the way the Falcons treated him before. Blank better offer at least $5 mil per year plus incentives to get the deal done.
Doug
March 23rd, 2010
12:10 pm
Liam: Ryan should have been selected in the 2nd or 3rd round???? You cannot be that stupid…blind…whatever. He is a very good…not yet great…but very good QB who works extremely hard at his profession…yes that is 180 degrees different from MV…who was a great athlete…mediocre QB ..wholly inaccurate and woefully lacking in diagnostic skills who DID NOT work hard at his profession…how hard is that to figure out???
oldfart
March 23rd, 2010
12:11 pm
Pittsburgh might have an opening soon. He would only have to move cross state.
Pat
March 23rd, 2010
12:11 pm
@ Free Vick
Thanks for the great laugh. The Falcons mis treated him? Haha.
Who stood by him when he had all those run ins with law, when he disrespected the fans, etc?
It is funny that he has more fans here than he does in Philly, where is is playing, I guess they know what a QB is suppose to do.
Vick^Average^At^Best
March 23rd, 2010
12:15 pm
@Liam
I have been reading your posts and for the most part they are quite laughable and lack a TON of credibility. You “claim” alot of things, yet you state no facts just alot of hearsay. You honestly come off as some drunk fan crying from the cheap seats that states his opinions based on emotion and not facts. That much is obvious.
So Michael Vick is a good/great QB you say? How? Why? Any factual, statistical proof? What has he won?
Michael Vick lead the Falcons to “TWO” winning seasons out of “SIX”. Is that good? Is that great? Please explain to me how that is good/great Liam? Ohhhhhhhhh right, you wanna come at me with the usual Vick supporter excuse that he didn’t have a good supporting cast right? Typical. This is a common practice for Vick worshippers. Place the blame on anyone else BUT Vick. Hmmmm well last time i checked Warrick Dunn and T.J Duckett formed “one” of the best RB combo’s during the time they played together in ATL and while Vick was a Falcon. Defo wasn’t the running game. Perhaps it was the TE? Crumpler was Vick’s security blanket and was in the middle of his prime when he was in ATL. Crumpler did nothing but produce and catch balls “when they weren’t 10 feet over his head”. Wide Recievers? How is it that Roddy White became one of the best WR’s in the game after Vick left? It had to be the offensive line then right Liam? in a word. NO! The O.Line was one of the best in the league when Vick played in ATL. Again, stats and facts do not lie.
Michael Vick has 72 “career” passing TD’s. Yet, he also has 52 interceptions. Yes i said “FIFTY TWO!” Please explain to me how that is good/great Liam? That is downright HORRIBLE! But, his strong suit was running the ball not throwing right? Ok, well ummmm he ran for 23 Rushing TD’s BUT, fumbled the ball 55 times. FIFTY FIVE TIMES!! That is down right embarrassing. Please for the love of god explain to me how on earth that is remotely close to being good/great?
Shall i go on? I mean, i can keep coming at you with facts and stats all day long while you keep spewing the same ole hearsay/wordofmouth garbage. Are you or ANY Vick fans willing to contribute anything concrete, factual or intelligent as to why Michael Vick should be regarded as a good/great QB? Stats? Factual Points? Anything?? And i don’t wanna hear ” Because he’s the Bomb on my XBOX360″ OR ” He was/is the best rushing QB of all time” ( Actually Randall Cunnigham is and the stats are there to prove it ). Anything at all?
Northwest ATL Boi
March 23rd, 2010
12:16 pm
@ liljb1
March 23rd, 2010
7:50 am
^^^^LOL too funny!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Jamal Anderson is a waste of space.
Vick Supporter
March 23rd, 2010
12:21 pm
Vick will shine again. I guranterr it. He will start again.
Pat
March 23rd, 2010
12:21 pm
@ Vick^Average^At^Best
Great post
D. Orlando Ledbetter
March 23rd, 2010
12:22 pm
You all are doing pretty good today. Had to delete the usual drifters. Here are the questions again to help you all stay on point. –DOL
* Why are teams shying away from Vick?
* Do you suspect the Eagles are holding him to drive up his trade value and will move him around the draft?
* Will he remain in Philadelphia in his Wildcat role?
* Would he be a good fit in Minnesota if Brett Favre doesn’t come back?
Bill
March 23rd, 2010
12:26 pm
Do you blame them? Why take the risk on someone who accomplished very little to begin with, is old, hasn’t played meaningful in several years and in general is a pos. Yeah sounds like a guy you want to lead your team. LOL
Why Lie?
March 23rd, 2010
12:26 pm
Oh….LOL..I see the AJC marketing department had to send a note to the sports section again. GET a VICK BLOG UP PRONTO! LOL
phoenix falcon
March 23rd, 2010
12:27 pm
why in the hell are we STILL talking about mike vick? Come on D Led, ENOUGH ALREADY!!!!!
i’m a FALCON fan, i’m more interested in THE FALCONS. vick has not been a falcon for what, 3/4 years? as soon as you mention vick, the nut cases/racist come out of the woodwork. ENOUGH, THIS IS AN ATLANTA FALCON BLOG, NOT A MIKE VICK BLOG, COME ON, MOVE ON ALREADY, vick has. mike vick has NOTHING what so ever to do with the FALCONS, so why are you still writing about him?
SAtlantan24
March 23rd, 2010
12:28 pm
To: Vick^Average^At^Best
AMEN AMEN
Pat
March 23rd, 2010
12:30 pm
@ D. Orlando Ledbetter
1. I think teams shy away from he because of his past. He has also gone public about not being a hard worker. Who wants to have someone like that on your team. How do they know that he will be doing his best for the organization.
2. I think that is why the Eagles are holding onto him. They are using him like stock. If he shows signs of getting better, than they will use it to get a better trade value. The NFL is still a business.
3. He will remain in his Wildcat role, because that is what he know best.
4. The Vikings would not be a good fit for him because he does not have a great arm.
phoenix falcon
March 23rd, 2010
12:34 pm
* Why are teams shying away from Vick?
* Do you suspect the Eagles are holding him to drive up his trade value and will move him around the draft?
* Will he remain in Philadelphia in his Wildcat role?
* Would he be a good fit in Minnesota if Brett Favre doesn’t come back?
1.)Anybody with a brain knows why teams are ” shying away ” from vick.
2.)NO
3.)YES
4.)NO, THE VIKES ALREADY HAVE A RUNNING BACK.
Why Lie?
March 23rd, 2010
12:34 pm
So what’s the word on Big Ben meeting with Goodell? Since we’re talking about players that dont play for the Falcons, let’s just talk about them all!
Terrence
March 23rd, 2010
12:35 pm
The falcons will never see a super bowl…the Hawks have a better chance at winning a championship…GO VICK!!!!
phoenix falcon
March 23rd, 2010
12:36 pm
@Why Lie?
AGREED 100%
Why Lie?
March 23rd, 2010
12:40 pm
Is Matty Ice’s toe better?
The Man
March 23rd, 2010
12:44 pm
Liam must mean stupid idiot in spanish
Cpt. Hard Ass
March 23rd, 2010
12:44 pm
Vick will start again,this year to be exact. And as for Matt ryan, what did he do last year nothing! They did’nt even make the playoffs. He’s a one season wonder mark my words.
Navigator
March 23rd, 2010
12:49 pm
I don’t want to get into the for or against stuff, but my question is why after all these years have passed it’s a major item to cover in this paper. Are you going to cover him after he retires to, when he moves onto a regular job, or are you trying to keep stirring the pot for you’re own benefit?
Vick^Average^At^Best
March 23rd, 2010
12:49 pm
Look, unfortunately superior talent and skills on the football field overshadow a mans baggage and morals and what he does off the field in todays NFL. Saying that, its obvious that teams just aren’t interested in Michael Vick because the game has quit simply passed him by. He lost his Deion like speed and quickness during his hiatus and became ordinary in the process. Otherwise, he is a Quarterback that is “well known” around coaching circles in the NFL for not being able to read defenses and was never accurate to begin with. Therefore, game over.
Forever Vick!
March 23rd, 2010
12:51 pm
To all you vick haters ( and you know who you are) define Thug?
shaggy
March 23rd, 2010
12:51 pm
@ Vick^Average^At^Best:
Great Post and VERY true. He never had anything but potential, which he slackered away with his hood mentality. Too bad he didn’t get mentored by Dungy early on. It might have been a different story but probably not.
QBSupporter
March 23rd, 2010
12:52 pm
I am sorry to say this, but WHO CARES? Vick was drying up as a QB the last two years in Atlanta, but even when Philly had a chance to start him last year, they went with Kolb. Vick can do well in a gimmick offense a play here and a play there, but an every down QB, that’s over. This is a passing league and Vick isn’t a passing QB.
Vick Haters
March 23rd, 2010
12:52 pm
I love reading the extensive comments about “who cares about Vick…” Scroll back up to the top of the screen numb-nuts, the title is “Quarterback market drying up on Michael Vick”.
What did you think this article was going to be about?
You clicked on the link for some reason, next time you go to click on an article, that is obviously going to discuss something that you don’t care about, take your hand off the mouse and smack yourself in the head.
I read it cause I was actually interested. Sorry if you clicked on it thinking there was going to be lolipops and bubblegum, retards!
Vick-Less
March 23rd, 2010
12:53 pm
Congrats to 31 teams……Boo-Hooo……Eagles….Smeagles………..
QBSupporter
March 23rd, 2010
12:53 pm
Thug, a criminal, who treats others violently and roughly, especially for hire. Often a member of a gang, as an enforcer in organized crime.
Pitt Bull
March 23rd, 2010
12:55 pm
I want Vick to play on my team….that way I can Bite the Crap of of that Clown…………..
Section 108
March 23rd, 2010
12:59 pm
Cmon DLed, you’re better than this man. The City has moved on to bigger and better things, and you should too. That dude brought nothin but pain and hardache to Falcon Fans in the city and across the nation. Remember how low we felt the season after the Vick debacle? Just let him go, he’s really not worth the time…………
Pitt Bull
March 23rd, 2010
1:01 pm
Hmmm………A quarterback that beats up women and one that beats dogs……..sounds too good to be true……….lol
ATLshirt.com
March 23rd, 2010
1:05 pm
I want to hear more about SHOCKLEY !!!!
Tmac
March 23rd, 2010
1:07 pm
“Why are teams shying away from Vick?”
Let me get this straight. We have a QB who was convicted of dog fighting and would be a PR nightmare for any team to sign him. He has admitted in the past of not working hard when he had money and limelight. And oh by the way and most importantly, mechanically and fundamentally he is not a good QB.
What’s not to understand? any questions, look for answer above.
tidog
March 23rd, 2010
1:09 pm
A bunch of professional football player wanabe’s. thats what u r. do u really feel the venom u spew about mike vick affects his life. mike vick led a charmed life and spiraled downed of his own indescretions much like barney madoff. the opinions u have about vick or even tiger have a zero effect in their life. get a life and live it boys.
Dr. Warren
March 23rd, 2010
1:10 pm
I had a casual, 2-hour talk with George Gervin at a Starbuck’s a couple of years ago. He was proud of his long career full of great accomplishments and seemed to love discussing the old days. Similarly, I picture being in some Starbuck’s or airport bar in fifteen years and finding myself next to Michael Vick. He too will be more humble, balding, just a regular guy. I will tell him I am a big Falcons and loved watching him play. Unlike Gervin, though, who referred to himself as an “NBA legend,” Vick will shake his head and talk about what a waste he made of his once-in-a-lifetime talent, how it ended so fast, but how he is running a football camp now or a sporting goods store and doing okay.
QB-non-Supporter
March 23rd, 2010
1:10 pm
Vick fits the definition of a THUG to a T…..He is an ex-con who treats other living things violently,he isn’t for hire now that a Gang of Eagles hired him and he enforces his will on living things for monetary gain…..enough said????
Tim Tebone
March 23rd, 2010
1:12 pm
Why should teams get an ex-con left-handed quarterback when they can get me?Wouldn’t you rather see me kiss a dog then see someone hang one?
Tmac
March 23rd, 2010
1:13 pm
What is the AJC going to do when Mike Vick is out of football?
When are you going to do multiple stories week after week about any other athlete not in this state?
Can you say “agenda”?
tired of all the same
March 23rd, 2010
1:13 pm
falconsorry and mv7 is the same racially charged person and should be completely filtered from this blog, anyone who allows his/her opinion is as sorry a person as they are.
coachx
March 23rd, 2010
1:15 pm
Liam,
You have no clue.
Ryan is better then Vick ever was. 2nd or 3rd round pick…….ha, ha, ha. Ryan’s rookie year was better the any year in Vick’s career.
If Vick is so good then why is he just a 3rd string QB ? Why do teams that can’t even win 5 games like the Rams, Browns, Bucs, want him ?
The answer is quite obvious. Vick is not a god QB.
Chaseolla'
March 23rd, 2010
1:16 pm
AYE!!!!!
D. Orlando Ledbetter
March 23rd, 2010
1:17 pm
Let’s try to move off of the shallow “thug” and “gang” references. They are not helpful here.
Dr. Warren — “The Iceman” was actually more on an ABA Legend.
Pat
March 23rd, 2010
1:25 pm
That is true, why, if this person is such a GREAT player, aren’t there teams lining up for him?
Flying Ryan
March 23rd, 2010
1:29 pm
M.V.,your’e not even as good as Vince Young , Matt Lineart or even Tim Tebow….the only thing you all have in common is you are left handed….Vince Young has learned it takes brains to play and Tebow no doubt has some so he will prevail….even Lineart has more sense than MV….the only thing M.V. does is want to get paid and party….Sad but True…………
BatmanPritchard
March 23rd, 2010
1:33 pm
Vick Supporter: you are right! Vick will shine again. He will shine shoes as his next profession.
Braves #1
March 23rd, 2010
1:35 pm
Why aren’t you writing about a worthy topic like the Atlanta Braves?They might just be the class of the National League this year……Lets see more positive columns Orlando.Thanks.
Chris
March 23rd, 2010
1:37 pm
#7 the player is insignificant…lets move on DOL…
D. Orlando Ledbetter
March 23rd, 2010
1:38 pm
Braves #1: This is a football blog. I hope the Braves do well in Bobby’s last season. Heyward looks like he could play tight end.Maybe Chipper won’t get hurt so often and will produce this season.
Vick^Average^At^Best
March 23rd, 2010
1:39 pm
Great Quarterbacks are ultimately measured by the win-loss colum, and Vick led the Atlanta Falcons to TWO winning Seasons out of SIX…FACT.
His highest single-season completion percentage was 56.4 percent, and for his career he has thrown 71 touchdowns to 52 interceptions—not exactly the model of efficiency.
The classic argument for Vick is that he is not a good passer but his strength is running outside of the pocket and using his speed, explosiveness, etc…I get it. It was fun to watch sometimes, and if they gave out trophies for “most fun to watch” he probably would have won his fair share. But this is the NFL not some bush league that hands out ribbons.
The best rushing season of his career was the ‘06-’07 season, with 1,039 yards rushing, averaging almost 65 yards a game. Pretty impressive except for the fact that he guided his team to a not-so-impressive 7-9 record tat same season. He’s also put the ball on the ground 55 times in his career, more than one out of every 10 times he carried the ball.
I believe ultimately Michael Vick was a “single-threat” quarterback disguised as a “dual-threat.” Once teams realized that if you could get an early lead on the Falcons, they could never climb out of the hole because Vick couldn’t carry the team down the field with his arm.
He could run all over the field, but everyone knows running the ball when you’re already down a couple touchdowns is not how you win football games. Shall i go on?
LaVonia B. Jackson
March 23rd, 2010
1:41 pm
How many of you have ever played a game of football – do you have want it takes to make it pass Pop Warner league? – We all can say what another person should or shouldn’t do – what would you do – how many of you are capable of running a football organization? I suspect none – so keep on doing what you are doing – life goes on – a twenty years from now it won’t matter to anyone but Michael Vick
Braves #1
March 23rd, 2010
1:44 pm
Orlando…you are right I need to go to O’BRIEN’S COLUMN….SORRY…..I liked your comments though………..Go Falcons!
D. Orlando Ledbetter
March 23rd, 2010
1:56 pm
Braves # 1 — Thanks for stopping by!
Sun Tzu 7
March 23rd, 2010
1:57 pm
I think the best chance Vick has at a starting job is Buffalo.
The fans there would welcome him with open arms because they are desperate for a winning team and the last time Chan Gailey was a head coach he did prefer a mobile QB.
Another reason I think this is possible is because Gailey stuck with the same QB for 4 years… who can forget the great Reggie Ball? Just ask Tech fans because I know they ALL have tried… very hard.
However Gailey didn’t seem to do so well with the developing the QB part of being a coach. Maybe he’ll do better if he has Vick but if they don’t improve the o-line up there it’s not going to matter because Vick will be running for his life after the ball is snapped like he did here… except he will be older, most likely slower, and have to play in the snow which will slow him down even more.
The only option I really see for him to start is Buffalo but it’s not really a good place for him if he wants to win… no o-line… no offense… and lots of weather.
And that division isn’t exactly full of cupcakes either.
5 MILLION
March 23rd, 2010
1:57 pm
Five million is way more than you clowns make a year. Keep your head up Vick. I would be all of the above for that kind of money each year. These clowns act like you can’t find a job. I love the Average at best bloggers…..For five million I would love to be Average
Vick^Average^At^Best
March 23rd, 2010
1:59 pm
Here are some Vick statistics in some very important categories as a QB in the NFL in his 4 years as a “STARTER”.
2002
18th in passer rating in 81.6
25th in comp percentage 54.9
2004
21st in passer rating 78.1
27th in completion percentage 56.4
2005
25th in passer rating 73.1
29th in completion percentage 55.3
2006
20th in passer rating 75.7
31st in completion percentage 52.6
An average of ranking 21st in the league in passer rating with an average of 77.1
An average ranking of 28th in the league in comp percentage with an average of 54.8.
A rank no higher than 18th in either category in any year as a starter.
Now how can someone with below average numbers like that EVER have been considered a good Quarterback? He can’t. He is a overhyped, overrated QB with no accuracy or consistentcy at all. A one dimensional player that the game has caught up too and has been exposed as that his entire career.
D. Orlando Ledbetter
March 23rd, 2010
2:05 pm
LaVonia B. Jackson — I’m sure you’re heard of the “Legend of Lightning Led.” I made it past Pop Warner (JFL and Muny League)!!! Was a lockdown-all hit-no cover corner in High School. Played QB, DE and TE before High School. I wasn’t very fast (thus the Lightning nickname). If the WR didn’t run by me, I’d knock his socks off!!! Tough in run support. Couldn’t play in college cause the hips weren’t on a swivel. And there was that 5.3, 40-yard time. . . . BUT I PLAYED past Pop Warner (unlike most sportswriters) if that’s standard. . .
JB FALCON
March 23rd, 2010
2:07 pm
I was going to vote in the poll but there wasn’t an option for “Who Cares?”
Mike Jay
March 23rd, 2010
2:07 pm
Vick’s “unique” skill set at the QB postion makes it impossible for him to be an effective second string QB. To take advantages of his skills (and mask his failings) the offense needs to be designed around him for it to be effective. This is just not possible when being in a backup role unless you have a starter with comparale skills. So, unfortunatlly fof him it appears he is a strter or nothing. You could pick him up as 3rd string QB (3rd string QB’s are almost always ‘projects’). However, his price tag is just too high for a 3rd stringer. So a team needs to decide if all the extra baggage and cash is worth investing in him as a starter.
5 MILLION
March 23rd, 2010
2:07 pm
Five million
Matty Ice
March 23rd, 2010
2:10 pm
unfortunately for Vick, he’s still reaping what he sowed for many years……tell my kids every day – decisions you make have consequences…….I hope Vick gets another chance to start, but if he does not – all he has to do is lookin the mirror.
Rob
March 23rd, 2010
2:21 pm
This is what Ledbetter wrote: “None of the moves have involved Philadelphia’s Michael Vick, who appears relegated to being a third-string Wildcat quarterback for the Eagles again next season.”
What are you doing man? Soothing your White readers? If you had a clue about sports, you’d know that Vick was unanimously voted by his team for the Courage award. An award each team in the league votes on to choose a teammate worthy. Secondly, Vicks’ option was picked up by the team (Eagles) to receive the 5.5 mil in money. And if you had half a wit, you’d know that EVERY NFL team shops MOST of its players EVERY year. That said makes your ENTIRE article opinionated and stupid at best.
Vick^Average^At^Best
March 23rd, 2010
2:23 pm
@Sun Tzu 7
Agreed that Buffalo would be “one” of the places he has left to go as a “starter”. Although he would still have to beat out the other two QB’s there which is not a certainty to say the least. I can almost guarantee that he will not go there. Michael Vick will never ever play there due too the weather. Plain and simple. Aint gonna happen. Michael Vick is Michael Vicks biggest fan and he knows he would never be able to showcase his attributes as a player in Buffalo due to the weather. Trust me on this. Next possible spot would be St. Louis, and the fans their need to understand a few things. I’m sure the fans that know anything about football already know what i’m about to say.
Here are some flaws in Vicks game that bringing him to the Rams or anyone else for that matter would be a huge mistake.
1 – Vick hasn’t started a game since the 16th game of the 2006 season. That will make it 3 1/2 years between starts if he’s the week 1 starter for the Rams in 2010. I don’t know many QB’s who can go that long between starts and come back to be an effective player.
2 – Vick has just 4 full seasons as a NFL starter under his belt: 2002,2004,2005 and 2006. He only started 2 games his rookie year in 2001, he missed all but 5 games in 2003 because of injurty, he was in prison for 2007 and 2008 and Vick threw all of 13 passes for the Eagles during the 2009 season.
3 – Here are his QB ratings in the four years he was a full-time starter:
2002 – 81.6 ( 18th in the NFL )
2004 – 78.1 ( 20th in the NFL )
2005 – 73.1 ( 25th in the NFL )
2006 – 75.7 ( 20th in the NFL )
4 – Here are Vick’s completions percentages in those same four seasons:
2002 – 54.9% ( 25th in the NFL )
2004 – 56.4% ) 27th in the NFL )
2005 – 55.3% ( 29th in the NFL )
2006 – 52.6% ( 31st in the NFL )
That is staggeringly bad.
5 – Here are Vick’s touchdown totals in those years ( passing AND rushing combined ) ” seeing Vick supporters rely on his rushing stats so heavily ”
2002 – 24 ( 7 QB’s had more passing TD’s than Vick had combined TD’s )
2004 – 17 ( 20 QB’s had more passing TD’s than Vick had combined TD’s )
2005 – 21 ( 9 QB’s had more passing TD’s than Vick had combined TD’s )
2006 – 22 ( 8 QB’s had more passing TD’s than Vick had combined TD’s )
6 – Here are Vick’s yardage total in those years ( passing AND rushing combined )
2002 – 3,713 ( 10 QB’s passed for more yards than Vick had combined yards )
2004 – 3,215 ( 11 QB’s passed for more yards than Vick had combined yards )
2005 – 3,009 ( 14 QB’s passed for more yards than Vick had combined yards )
2006 – 3,513 ( 11 QB’s passed for more yards than Vick had combined yards )
The common excuse or argument made by Michael Vick’s supporters is that his rushing yards/stats make up for his poor completion percentage and lack of raw passing yards but, as you can see by the stats in 5- and 6- it clearly demonstrates that argument is incorrect
Michael Vick is a below average passer whose touchdown and yardage production as a full time starter has been middle-of-the-pack AT BEST. Is a middle-of-the-pack producer who is clearly a one dimensional player and hasn’t started a game in nearly 4 years worth all that trouble he brings? In a word. No.
In all honesty, Vick hasn’t been much better on the whole of his career than Bulger has been the last 3 years.
Bulgers QB rating over the last 3 years is about 70.8 – Vick’s career rating is 75.9. Think about that for a minute. Vick’s career average is barley better than Bulger’s three worst seasons. This sinking in yet people??
Bulgers average yards passing per game the last three seasons is 181.2. Vick’s average total yards passing and rushing combined during his 6 season in Atlanta was 207.6. Again, thats Bulger’s total for the LAST THREE SEASONS only. Even his worst years he’s only averaging 25.6 passing yards per game less than Vick gets passing and rushing combined. Remarkable, wouldn’t you say?
Bulger at his worst was damn near Vick’s equal in terms of QB rating.
Bulger at his worst threw for nearly as many yards per game as Vick accumulated both rushing and passing.
Bulger, the slow footed pocket passer, is sacked at roughly the same rate as the Ultra-Athletic stud muffin Vick. Bulger average of 34.5 times per season to Vick’s 39.5 times per season in his 4 years as a starter.
Good QB? HOW?!? Prove me wrong, im begging any Vick supporter/worshiper. I’m still waiting for a knowledgeable Michael Vick supporter to post anything at all credible, factual or statistical that “proves” me otherwise.
Rob
March 23rd, 2010
2:25 pm
Ledbetter wrote:; Quarterback market drying up for Michael Vick.
What are you doing man? Soothing your White readers? If you had a clue about sports, you’d know that Vick was unanimously voted by his team for the Courage award. An award each team in the league votes on to choose a teammate worthy. Secondly, Vicks’ option was picked up by the team (Eagles) to receive the 5.5 mil in money. And if you had half a wit, you’d know that EVERY NFL team shops MOST of its players EVERY year. That said makes your ENTIRE article opinionated and stupid at best.
Sun Tzu 7
March 23rd, 2010
2:41 pm
Vick^Average^At^Best,
Yes Vick would still need to beat out the other QB’s but if the Bills traded for him I think they would be under pressure to start him… which is a possible reason they wouldn’t pick him up.
St Louis is a possibility but since they have the #1 pick they’re not going to even thinking about touching Vick until after the draft.
Let’s be honest here. Other than 6 gimmick plays Vick didn’t really do anything memorable while he was in Philly so you’re selling fans on his potential and memories of what he was…
If you’re selling fans on potential then you can do that with a #1 draft pick that also comes with much less baggage… but would also cost you more based on how much the #1 draft pick gets paid.
Personally, I think Buffallo is a better option for him to start because of their fan base and head coach. I agree that Vick would probably not want to go there but if he wants to get paid like a starter then he doesn’t really have many other options. Also, since he’s not a free agent he doesn’t really get to choose where the Eagles trade him.
And one thing to remember is that he’s still in massive debt, (last I checked he owes more than 5 million), and needs to make as much money as possible to pay it back.
LaVonia B. Jackson
March 23rd, 2010
2:49 pm
Never heard of the”Legend of Lightning Led”, but will google it – glad you made it past Pop Warner – my son played little league, high school and college – nephew plays for New York Giants – so skin thin when I read comments from people whom I assumed never played the “GAME”
LaVonia B. Jackson
March 23rd, 2010
3:00 pm
Ledbetter didn’t realize the article was your doing – sorry about – so you know a little football – good for you
Vick=Dog killing thug
March 23rd, 2010
3:09 pm
I see him out of the NFL soon, then back to crime and hopefully back to prison where he belongs. It all catches up with you in the end.
D. Orlando Ledbetter
March 23rd, 2010
3:13 pm
Rob — Just keeping it real. He’s their third string quarterback.
Lavonia B. Jackson — I understand. I didn’t make it to college (should have walked-on in retrospect.) But three generations of family members have played in the league. The fourth, we think, is playing in the Big 12 right now. I just got the bad hips and slow foot speed!
truth
March 23rd, 2010
3:17 pm
If a team was gonna make the 3rd string wildcat pawn their stater they would get him asap and begin building around him. It would be stupid to wait til training camp to get him.
BPimp
March 23rd, 2010
3:17 pm
So, you pay a $1.5 roster bonus for a guy that can’t play QB? The hate has distorted the truth once again.
WreckinBall
March 23rd, 2010
3:26 pm
DOL – 4?s @ 12:22pm #1.M. Vick is not a good QB. #2. I don’t have a clue. #3. Who cares? #4. I don’t think he’s a good fit anywhere.
truth
March 23rd, 2010
3:26 pm
BPimp………..the Eagles had no chioce but to pay him the 1.5 mill, it was in his contract. They were hoping someone would had just sniffed at the possibilty of taking him before they did. Come get real!! If the 3rd string QB pawn was all that someone would want him.
Hollywould
March 23rd, 2010
3:29 pm
Vick average at best. that was a great blog. Man, I have been a STH since 97 and was behind Vick 100%. Never realized how bad his numbers were. You can never convince his followers now as this is all they can fall back on. As one of his followers said earlier TONYG said” I would rather watch Vick and lose than a boring QB and win.” Kinda shows you the mindset. These people are so delusional and in total denial. Once again, great blog/keep it up. GO FALCONS
marcus
March 23rd, 2010
3:33 pm
cheering for him had nothing to do with the color of his skin he was electric but he was not a passer maybe white wouldn’t of had a slow start to his career if vick was a better passer maybe price would of worked out in atlanta if vick was a better passer i’m tired if hearing people talk about vick in atlanta ryan is our qb only way i can see vick in atlanta again is for chump change and as a wild cat qb
Mike Jay
March 23rd, 2010
3:34 pm
LaVonia,
Have you ever PLAYED football? I don’t think mearly watching your family members play qualifies you to make assumptions about weither people who have never played are allowed to comment on it. That’s just such a silly argument anyhow. The world is full of people who critique/comment on things they do not do for a paycheck or recreation. Movie Critics don’t make movies, food critics don’t work as chefs. Olympic TV analayst have never Luged or Bobsleded. The list goes on and on.
marcus
March 23rd, 2010
3:43 pm
the real fact is he is not a good passer no one is going to pick him up he’s going to stay in philly til he’s contract runs out then he’s finish
WreckinBall
March 23rd, 2010
3:46 pm
I hate to see anyone get into trouble and go to jail. He has done his time and paid his debt to society. But I am glad that he is no longer a Falcon. The Falcons are a much better team without him. M. Vick is the same old story of an athlete who has it all and blows it, because he can’t play the fame game (like someone that can, as in Micheal Jordan). I hope that he will prosper wherever he lands, but he is gone and has moved on, so lets forget about him, because the Falcons have. GO FALCONS —- DEFEAT THE SAINTS IN 2010!!!
Marquesiel
March 23rd, 2010
3:54 pm
@ TheAntiMe……………I was saying the same thing…When the talk dies down and no on is talking about the falcons, throw Vick name out there lol….This post is pathetic
Mike Jay
March 23rd, 2010
3:59 pm
Guy’s. He was a #1 draft pick for the Falcons and started for 4+ seasons. Like him or not, he electrified the fan base of a long time downtrotten franchise. He had a spectaular, well documented fall from grace. He will ALWAYS make news in Atlanta. No way around it. However, posting and complaing everytime a new article mentions his name only encourages the bean counters to create more of the same. See, even negative feedback means you are reading it, no? If it bothers you soo much, STOP READING AND COMMENTING. Pretty simple.
GO FALCONS!!
March 23rd, 2010
3:59 pm
Who is Michael Vick?
CT
March 23rd, 2010
4:19 pm
@Vick^Average^At^Best
The stats you posted are true about Vick but the receiving core was playing like crap also. Roddy White was not as good as he is now. Think about the balls he dropped all by himself and most of them hit him square in the hands. I don’t think Vick is a pure qb but you do need to have the pieces in place to make it happen as well.
Vick Supporter
March 23rd, 2010
4:22 pm
Thats whats wrong with Falcon fans…all you talk about is QB rating this….percentages and all this other BS. The bottom line is winning.
Vick has a winning record as a starter. Thats what matters. And for you people to say that Roddy got better when Vick left, you people wasn’t saying that when Roddy was dropping WIDE OPEN PASSES WHILE HE WAS BY HIMSELF. Vick will have his day again…it doesn’t matter what you “fans” think. Look how he dominates your blog…you don’t even talk about your own QB because there nothing to talk about. You want to talk about average? Ryan is average at its best and he was EXPOSED just like I predicted he would be….can’t even throw a deep out,lol.
Keep your head up Vick. Your detractors know nothing.
Vick Supporter
March 23rd, 2010
4:23 pm
@Vick^Average^At^Best
Your stats mean nothing
Hollywould
March 23rd, 2010
4:29 pm
Vick Supporter, Come on man. Everytime your Choke boy(or stat boy) throws his Vick stats in you and your delusional follwers climb on his back. Cmon, you can’t have it both ways.
CT
March 23rd, 2010
4:30 pm
People are complaining about Vick! Man, Venny Interceptorverde played for years and look at all the picks he threw. He threw 275 TD’s and 267 ints. Enough said.
D. Orlando Ledbetter
March 23rd, 2010
5:32 pm
Hollywould — Thanks!
ORIGIN of this blog — I’d interviewed Coach Tony Dungy about the All Pro Dad organization and him coming to speak in College Park. Of course, I asked him about how his mentoring of Vick was going and I saved those quotes for this blog. Coach isn’t sure how the football part is going to work out for Vick. But then I got to thinking about all of the quarterbacks who have changed teams.
David
March 23rd, 2010
6:26 pm
I liked Shockley ;he has not had enough playing time to gel with the first string and does something that Payton and even Brett do all the time but he gets called out by a sports commntator ….his bouncey foot work the little hops he kinda takes …they do it and nothings said but old Shockley is ripped for the same jittery hop hop movements….Oh well I really think he is real diamond in the rough and besides Atlantas’ offensive line finally provides some sort of protection all of a sudden .Vick,Shockley, nor Redman had any real protection an few years ago and now they have protection and recievers now think about that and one heck of a coach . GIVE SHOCKLEY THE TIME TO TRUST THE OFFENSIVE LINEMEN AND HE WILL BE A SHOCKER…
Vick^Average^At^Best
March 23rd, 2010
9:31 pm
@ Vick Supporter
Stats mean nothing? Just clarifies what you know about the game of football and how it works my friend. You just lost all credibility with that comment. Give your head a shake bud. If stats mean nothing, please throw away the 1000 yard rushing season he had that you people desperately hang on too. Like Hollywould said, you cant have it both ways.
Year after year, Vick spent the seasons hurt or posting mediocre numbers that fall more in line with Aaron Brooks rather than Donovan McNabb. And yet, each offseason, “supporters” continue to predict big things for Vick, praising his revolutionary style and making excuses as to why he hasn’t been successful yet and why this will be the year. First it was the natural development of the QB–it takes a quarterback about three seasons before things officially lock in. Then it was the ineptitude of his receivers–yet the Falcons have always had a serviceable group that includes stand-out tight end Alge Crumpler, Roddy White, Jenkins ect.. Next was the adjustment Vick had to make to Jim Mora Jr.’s West Coast offense, which would need another couple of years or development. Now it’s Year ??? I have lost count now due to all the excuses. Its laughable. It’s time for you fans/supporters to wake up and realize that Vick was and is just no good. He’s got the same problems he has ALWAYS had, inconsistency, poor decision-making skills, rocketing passes instead of putting the “touch” and placement on a ball necessary for a receiver to catch it. The list goes on and on.
Look, before he was drafted Kyle Boller threw a football through the uprights from the 50-yard line, from his knees. That’s certainly athletically impressive, but no one’s confusing Boller for Marino. Yet Vick escaped his supporters ire by the aforementioned “revolutionary” style of play, which equates to nothing more than bailing out of a play at the first sign of resistance and taking off into the open field. On passing plays Vick ignores his receivers, looks to Crumpler as his first option, and takes off if he’s being covered. This style of play ensures two things:
1 – No team that Vick plays for will ever win a championship until Vick learns to pass.
2 – INJURY PRONE!
Vick’s best season came in 2002, when he threw for 2,936 yards and ran for another 777 with 24 combined TD’s (16 pass, 8 rush) and 8 INT. He’s never topped 3,000 passing yards in a season.
The most common defense I’ve heard of Vick is that it isn’t about his passing numbers–it’s about the adjustments he forces a defense to make and his multi-faceted skill set. I’m not sure about multi-faceted, as running seems to be his only true skill, and defenses–good defenses, at least–seem to have no problem figuring out how to play Vick. In the playoffs, where the victories count, you’ll find that every team has at least an above-average defense and most are stellar. They aren’t fooled by Vick, know he can’t pass, and usually throw a spy on him to make sure his run attempts and yards are kept to a minimum.
The other defense I hear regarding Vick is that his stats are inconsequential because his record as a starter speaks for itself. If you take a closer look. it isn’t as impressive. Vick’s 34-26-1 career record as a “starter” loses its luster when you break it down–he’s 24-6 against teams that were .500 or lower at the time the Falcons played them. Against teams with winning records he’s 7-13-1. This goes to show that Vick takes advantage of beating up on bad teams but can’t stand up to stiffer competition.
Besides, many average QBs have had great success in the wins column, because a quarterback does not a team make. A true barometer for a team’s talent is on their lines–a good rushing attack and rush defense can mask a lot of deficiencies elsewhere, and the Falcons had both while Vick was there. This is the same formula that got Brad Johnson and Trent Dilfer Super Bowl rings in recent years. Where is Vicks ring? The difference is that those two quarterbacks were “game managers,” meaning they made the requisite minimum of plays to put their teams in a position to win without turning the ball over or making bad decisions–two things Vick has struggled with. Truth is, we’ve seen just about all Michael Vick has to offer, and it’s not spectacular. At this point in his career it’s pointless to try to convert him to a pocket passer. You cant teach an old dog new tricks.
The real winner in all of this Vick hoopla is the San Diego Chargers, who were in position to draft him before trading down with the Falcons, in the process acquiring All-Everything running back, worldly talent LaDainian Tomlinson, who was consistently at the top of the NFL’s running back pile while Vick sits in the middle of his pack.
Marie
March 23rd, 2010
10:59 pm
Ledbetter its funny how you so called journalist like to add your opinions (your so-called three theories) as if these were established facts. The truth is you or no one else knows what teams are talking to Vick’s agent. Last year after he was released from prison all of you SILLY sports writer had a “death watch” list on Vick and were marking off teams that were not going to touch him for these SAME THREE THEORIES and whammo he lands in Philly (a team by the way had been on no-way list).
So now here you go again with your same STUPID columns about moves teams are making barely two months after the season has ended and because Vick hasn’t been picked up by another team — his chances of regaining a start in the NFL is gone.
Let me let you in on a secret Ledbetter — YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT Mike Vick will be doing at the beginning of the season. So quit making a fool out of yourself with these dire predictions about this man’s future. Like the old proverb states — it’s best to keep your words soft and sweet just in case you have to eat them.
lance
March 24th, 2010
4:48 am
For the non-football fan who said that a running QB has never made it in the Pro’s, it’s obvious you are no more a student of the game any more that your all have accused MV of being..How so
Kenny Stabler, John Elway, Steve Young, Mark Brunell, Randall Cunningham, and even Kordell Stewart as well as a countless other running QB’s have made an impact on the NFL.
As for baggage, MV’s situation is a mere shadow compared to the repeated complaints of rape against Ben Rothlesberger(One of my favorite QB’s, but not favorite person.)
Yet, everyone is talking about a damn dog-fighting charge!
Each time MV touched th field you knew something electrifying would happen.
as for inaccuracy…..
My favorite QB BRETT FARVE, has for the last 4-5 seasons made the critical mistake that has cost his teams shots at the Super Bowl.
The 4th quarter magic is gone, but durng the season Brett can get the job done.
Racism…..there are so many refurbished caucasian QB’s out there who haven’t and aren’t ever going to be @@@@@, yet time and time again they have been given opportunity after opportunity.
If you’ve ever played ball or any competitive sport in your life, then youunderstand that it’s desire which makes players become as great as they are. Prime Example:
I went to Lincoln High in San Diego, Terell Davis had been benched and cut from teams in San Diego.
Te greatest BB player in the world, Michael Jordan, was cut, becuase of inaccuracies in his game, and it was desire that mad ehim (under a great coach) become who he is today.
MV needs an opportunity just as all of the other QB’s have gotten.
phoenix falcon
March 24th, 2010
12:07 pm
i wonder whats going on with the FALCONS, I GUESS I HAVE TO GO TO ANOTHER PAPER/WEB SITE TO CHECK IN ON WHATS GOING ON WITH THE FALCONS, SHAME……………
Vick^Average^At^Best
March 24th, 2010
1:42 pm
@ Lance
Michael Vick has received a opportunity last time i checked? Pretty sure he is back in the NFL and on the Eagles roster?
Racism? Do you really wanna go there? Are you really using that as an example why Vick isn’t starting?
You wanna compare Michael Vicks career to Brett Favres? Really? Really? LoL.
Lance, you also say that Michael Vicks baggage and his situation is a mere shadow compared to the repeated complaints of sexual assault against Ben Roethlesberger? Although bad, and im not here to excuse it but, i gotta bring up a little known catch phrase that sounds a little somtheing like this ” Innocent until proven guilty”. Last time i checked Ben has not been charged with anything and has never been found guilty of anything. If he is however, i will be the first to take a swipe at him. You are aware Michael Vick gave NUMEROUS unsuspecting innocent women Herpes while he KNOWINGLY had it right? You remember Ron Mexico? Shall we go there?
And are you really comparing Michael Vick to Steve Young and John Elway or Randal Cunningham? I could have a field day with you. Most of what you claim is outrageous. Plain and simple.
Falcon Freddie
March 24th, 2010
6:05 pm
Coach “Reid says offers are being made for ALL THREE of the Philadelphia Eagles’ quarterbacks — McNabb, backup Kevin Kolb and former Atlanta Falcons starter Michael Vick.” (Source ESPN.com) Vick haters should take a hike. Where ever MV7 ends up, the Dome will still be chanting …We Want Vick! We Want Vick! We Want Vick!
Scott
March 24th, 2010
7:53 pm
Ok hmm Vick wasnt even supposed to be in the NFL according to alot of people and he did. And to those who say a running QB will never work umm it already has numerous time and the last one i can think of is o yeah……. Mike Vick the Man made it to the NFC Title game and made a really crappy franchise that much better. if Mike vick had never been drafted by atlanta the Falcons would be in the same boat as the lions and the whole resurgence of Football in ATL can be accredited to Mike Vick
Vick^Average^At^Best
March 24th, 2010
10:32 pm
Scott? Michael Vick made it to a Title game? Umm so did Trent Dilfer LOL! Whats your point?
Consistency and Development
March 25th, 2010
12:12 am
No playoffs last year? True.
How many back to back winning seasons in franchise history?
I’m looking forward, not back.
Vick will start again and I wish him the best.
The future is bright for the Falcons. The model for cosistently winning has been built.
Matt Ryan’s sophmore slump was a winning season. Let the “process” continue.
Tonyg
March 31st, 2010
10:25 am
First of all to you who are quite serious about these comments, don’t let this get to you because none of us know what we are talking about, just a lot of speculations, wishes backed up with almost 0 facts.
Here is my nothing on Vick:
Philadelphia brought Vick to town for only one reason, to be their starter. He is capable and showed it last year by coming in without a chance to develop any kind of rhythm and scoring touch downs (thats hard)and one only knows what he could have accomplished if he was the starter. He was used sparingly because they wanted to preserve him for 2010. Mcnabb is about to be traded, Kolb will crash early in the season and Vick will take over. Philly has already proved that they can handle any protesters, animal rights groups, peta (no caps on purpose because I feel that way about the hypocrites) and can separate his past history from his present. Vick will start for Philly an bring excitement to a team that needs it and also put bodies in seats. Why do you think Mcnabb and Kolb is trying so hard to get out of town. The writing is on the wall. Now there’s my nothing, bash away!
ATL Observer
April 1st, 2010
11:03 am
1) Why are teams shying away from Vick?
Someone else already pointed this out, but the biggest difficulty with Vick is that his skillset (assuming there hasn’t been any erosion) is SO unique that you basically have to re-craft your entire offense to suit it. Then if he gets hurt, you really have no backup in that mold. That might be fine if Vick is 22 years old and a team wants their next franchise QB, but Vick is 30 so the shelf life is eight years shorter.
2)Do you suspect the Eagles are holding him to drive up his trade value and will move him around the draft?
We’re all just onlookers and we don’t know $#!+ but based on my observations, it seems like the guy Reid really wants but doesn’t want to say out loud is Kolb. I think the team would be perfectly willing to trade *both* McNabb & Vick if they think it would help them build a team around the new guy. But he has to trade McNabb first because McNabb will definitely raise more of a fuss than Vick about not being the starter.
3) Will he remain in Philadelphia in his Wildcat role?
I’d answer that with a half “yes.” I think the McNabb talks have distracted people from the Vick pursuit which will leave him 2nd string behind Kolb. But because so much isn’t known about Kolb, it could either be “the kid’s great and Vick will just have to accept his Wildcat snaps” or it could be “wow, the guy’s really awful so I guess Vick’s the starter after all.”
4) Would he be a good fit in Minnesota if Brett Favre doesn’t come back?
Maybe…that team would be AWFULLY fast at that point. But at the same time, it wouldn’t really make their offense as multidimensional as it was in ‘09. McNabb would be the better fit though because he’s already worked with Childress, has less rust and would just “slip into” the role a lot better.
mikedaniels gvegas
April 5th, 2010
10:25 pm
go jail bird ha ha ha
Anonymous
April 7th, 2010
11:05 pm
I can’t believe anyone would even give this SOB a chance.
falcsfan14
April 10th, 2010
8:31 am
who cares?… we dont need vick he’s washed up hes not as good as he was when he was with up
doug
April 22nd, 2010
9:54 pm
micheal vicks needs to be a starting quarterback for whatever team pick him up. micheal has always been a starter all of his life. vicks has severed his time and everyone makes mistake let just move on and enjoy football please.
Brandon
May 6th, 2010
11:20 am
Everybody wants to come down on Vick the bottom line is that the man did his time and is trying to get his life back in order..and as far as it goes about VICK not having it anymore??? Are you crazy?? Vick still has it and he will get his chance to prove it! Not a Phillies Fan by any means ,but he will get his Chance somewhere…All you haters are in the way and I am assuming that most of you are Cowboys fans cause all they do is cry and wine and got to have something to b*thc about.GO VICK GLAD TO HAVE YOU BACK IN THE NFL….VA LOVE
Byrd48
July 29th, 2010
3:58 am
Let be honest Michael Vick put Atlanta on the map,other than the time they went to the superbowl in 98 Vick is not the best passer but what he is a Game Changer and he was good for the NFL on the field