Quarterback market drying up on Michael Vick
Philadelphia Eagles quarterback Michael Vick (7) is stopped by Atlanta Falcons' Kroy Biermann, and Jamaal Anderson after rushing for a short gain in the first quarter of an NFL football game Sunday, Dec. 6, 2009 in Atlanta. The game was Vick's first in Atlanta since serving a prison sentence for dogfighting. (AP Photo/John Bazemore)
In the ramp up to the 2010 NFL draft, several teams have made some very interesting moves at the quarterback position.
None of the moves have involved Philadelphia’s Michael Vick, who appears relegated to being a third-string Wildcat quarterback for the Eagles again next season.
Loading ...Vick expressed in two separate radio interviews that he wouldn’t mind playing for Carolina or St. Louis. Those two teams don’t appear interested.
The Panthers did release Jake Delhomme, but appear set to move on with Matt Moore at the helm.
The Rams are sitting at the top of the draft and are thought to be salivating over Oklahoma quarterback Sam Bradford.
In Seattle, the Seahawks traded for Charlie Whitehurst, of Clemson and Chattahoochee High, and signed him to a two-year, $10 million deal.
In Cleveland, the Browns dumped Derek Anderson and Brady Quinn. They picked up Seneca Wallace and Delhomme. Anderson landed in Arizona and Quinn in Denver.
The Browns are set to workout four of five draft eligible quarterbacks, including Florida’s Tim Tebow. Cleveland president Mike Holmgren told Tony Grossi of the Cleveland Plain Dealer that the team would definitely draft a quarterback, but probably not in the early rounds of the draft.
In San Francisco, the 49ers landed David Carr.
Even backups Rex Grossman and Shaun Hill found new employers in the Washington Redskins and Detroit Lions.
Charlie Whitehurst has a future with the Seattle Seahawks.
Things have been eerily quiet in Buffalo as head coach Chan Gailey settles in. They have the ninth pick in the draft and could address their quarterback position by drafting Notre Dame’s Jimmy Clausen.
But for Vick, there have been no takers.
One theory is that teams might not be so willing to forgive him for his federal dogfighting conviction.
Another theory is that they can forgive him for the dogfighting, but not for admitting that he was a class room slacker when he played for the Atlanta Falcons.
One last theory is that Vick is not polished enough as passer and the league has clearly shifted to being a passing league.
Tony Dungy, who’s been mentoring Vick, since he was released from Federal prison, is not overly concerned about his football career.
“Mike and I communicate regularly,” Dungy said last Thursday via phone. “We probably talk once a week. I’m really proud of him because he’s had a great year in terms of his personal life and family life.”
Dungy is not sure how the football side of Vick’s comeback is going to work out.
“I know that’s important to him, but more than anything he has put his family life back in order,” Dungy said. “I’m really proud of him for that.”
There are a couple of scenarios that could have Vick on the move. One is that teams might decide to make a move
shortly before of during the draft, which will be held April 22-24.
Also, some teams might wait until before the outset of the season to see if any injuries knock out their quarterbacks.
Tony Dungy
There also is the Minnesota situation. What happens if Brett Favre does decide to stay on his tractor this time?
But for now, it appears that teams are shying away from Vick and his desire to return to starter status in the NFL.
Why are teams shying away from Vick? Do you suspect the Eagles are holding him to drive up his trade value and will move him around the draft? Will he remain in Philadelphia in his Wildcat role? Would he be a good fit in Minnesota if Brett Favre doesn’t come back?
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Rob
March 23rd, 2010
2:21 pm
This is what Ledbetter wrote: “None of the moves have involved Philadelphia’s Michael Vick, who appears relegated to being a third-string Wildcat quarterback for the Eagles again next season.”
What are you doing man? Soothing your White readers? If you had a clue about sports, you’d know that Vick was unanimously voted by his team for the Courage award. An award each team in the league votes on to choose a teammate worthy. Secondly, Vicks’ option was picked up by the team (Eagles) to receive the 5.5 mil in money. And if you had half a wit, you’d know that EVERY NFL team shops MOST of its players EVERY year. That said makes your ENTIRE article opinionated and stupid at best.
Vick^Average^At^Best
March 23rd, 2010
2:23 pm
@Sun Tzu 7
Agreed that Buffalo would be “one” of the places he has left to go as a “starter”. Although he would still have to beat out the other two QB’s there which is not a certainty to say the least. I can almost guarantee that he will not go there. Michael Vick will never ever play there due too the weather. Plain and simple. Aint gonna happen. Michael Vick is Michael Vicks biggest fan and he knows he would never be able to showcase his attributes as a player in Buffalo due to the weather. Trust me on this. Next possible spot would be St. Louis, and the fans their need to understand a few things. I’m sure the fans that know anything about football already know what i’m about to say.
Here are some flaws in Vicks game that bringing him to the Rams or anyone else for that matter would be a huge mistake.
1 – Vick hasn’t started a game since the 16th game of the 2006 season. That will make it 3 1/2 years between starts if he’s the week 1 starter for the Rams in 2010. I don’t know many QB’s who can go that long between starts and come back to be an effective player.
2 – Vick has just 4 full seasons as a NFL starter under his belt: 2002,2004,2005 and 2006. He only started 2 games his rookie year in 2001, he missed all but 5 games in 2003 because of injurty, he was in prison for 2007 and 2008 and Vick threw all of 13 passes for the Eagles during the 2009 season.
3 – Here are his QB ratings in the four years he was a full-time starter:
2002 – 81.6 ( 18th in the NFL )
2004 – 78.1 ( 20th in the NFL )
2005 – 73.1 ( 25th in the NFL )
2006 – 75.7 ( 20th in the NFL )
4 – Here are Vick’s completions percentages in those same four seasons:
2002 – 54.9% ( 25th in the NFL )
2004 – 56.4% ) 27th in the NFL )
2005 – 55.3% ( 29th in the NFL )
2006 – 52.6% ( 31st in the NFL )
That is staggeringly bad.
5 – Here are Vick’s touchdown totals in those years ( passing AND rushing combined ) ” seeing Vick supporters rely on his rushing stats so heavily ”
2002 – 24 ( 7 QB’s had more passing TD’s than Vick had combined TD’s )
2004 – 17 ( 20 QB’s had more passing TD’s than Vick had combined TD’s )
2005 – 21 ( 9 QB’s had more passing TD’s than Vick had combined TD’s )
2006 – 22 ( 8 QB’s had more passing TD’s than Vick had combined TD’s )
6 – Here are Vick’s yardage total in those years ( passing AND rushing combined )
2002 – 3,713 ( 10 QB’s passed for more yards than Vick had combined yards )
2004 – 3,215 ( 11 QB’s passed for more yards than Vick had combined yards )
2005 – 3,009 ( 14 QB’s passed for more yards than Vick had combined yards )
2006 – 3,513 ( 11 QB’s passed for more yards than Vick had combined yards )
The common excuse or argument made by Michael Vick’s supporters is that his rushing yards/stats make up for his poor completion percentage and lack of raw passing yards but, as you can see by the stats in 5- and 6- it clearly demonstrates that argument is incorrect
Michael Vick is a below average passer whose touchdown and yardage production as a full time starter has been middle-of-the-pack AT BEST. Is a middle-of-the-pack producer who is clearly a one dimensional player and hasn’t started a game in nearly 4 years worth all that trouble he brings? In a word. No.
In all honesty, Vick hasn’t been much better on the whole of his career than Bulger has been the last 3 years.
Bulgers QB rating over the last 3 years is about 70.8 – Vick’s career rating is 75.9. Think about that for a minute. Vick’s career average is barley better than Bulger’s three worst seasons. This sinking in yet people??
Bulgers average yards passing per game the last three seasons is 181.2. Vick’s average total yards passing and rushing combined during his 6 season in Atlanta was 207.6. Again, thats Bulger’s total for the LAST THREE SEASONS only. Even his worst years he’s only averaging 25.6 passing yards per game less than Vick gets passing and rushing combined. Remarkable, wouldn’t you say?
Bulger at his worst was damn near Vick’s equal in terms of QB rating.
Bulger at his worst threw for nearly as many yards per game as Vick accumulated both rushing and passing.
Bulger, the slow footed pocket passer, is sacked at roughly the same rate as the Ultra-Athletic stud muffin Vick. Bulger average of 34.5 times per season to Vick’s 39.5 times per season in his 4 years as a starter.
Good QB? HOW?!? Prove me wrong, im begging any Vick supporter/worshiper. I’m still waiting for a knowledgeable Michael Vick supporter to post anything at all credible, factual or statistical that “proves” me otherwise.
Rob
March 23rd, 2010
2:25 pm
Ledbetter wrote:; Quarterback market drying up for Michael Vick.
What are you doing man? Soothing your White readers? If you had a clue about sports, you’d know that Vick was unanimously voted by his team for the Courage award. An award each team in the league votes on to choose a teammate worthy. Secondly, Vicks’ option was picked up by the team (Eagles) to receive the 5.5 mil in money. And if you had half a wit, you’d know that EVERY NFL team shops MOST of its players EVERY year. That said makes your ENTIRE article opinionated and stupid at best.
Sun Tzu 7
March 23rd, 2010
2:41 pm
Vick^Average^At^Best,
Yes Vick would still need to beat out the other QB’s but if the Bills traded for him I think they would be under pressure to start him… which is a possible reason they wouldn’t pick him up.
St Louis is a possibility but since they have the #1 pick they’re not going to even thinking about touching Vick until after the draft.
Let’s be honest here. Other than 6 gimmick plays Vick didn’t really do anything memorable while he was in Philly so you’re selling fans on his potential and memories of what he was…
If you’re selling fans on potential then you can do that with a #1 draft pick that also comes with much less baggage… but would also cost you more based on how much the #1 draft pick gets paid.
Personally, I think Buffallo is a better option for him to start because of their fan base and head coach. I agree that Vick would probably not want to go there but if he wants to get paid like a starter then he doesn’t really have many other options. Also, since he’s not a free agent he doesn’t really get to choose where the Eagles trade him.
And one thing to remember is that he’s still in massive debt, (last I checked he owes more than 5 million), and needs to make as much money as possible to pay it back.
LaVonia B. Jackson
March 23rd, 2010
2:49 pm
Never heard of the”Legend of Lightning Led”, but will google it – glad you made it past Pop Warner – my son played little league, high school and college – nephew plays for New York Giants – so skin thin when I read comments from people whom I assumed never played the “GAME”
LaVonia B. Jackson
March 23rd, 2010
3:00 pm
Ledbetter didn’t realize the article was your doing – sorry about – so you know a little football – good for you
Vick=Dog killing thug
March 23rd, 2010
3:09 pm
I see him out of the NFL soon, then back to crime and hopefully back to prison where he belongs. It all catches up with you in the end.
D. Orlando Ledbetter
March 23rd, 2010
3:13 pm
Rob — Just keeping it real. He’s their third string quarterback.
Lavonia B. Jackson — I understand. I didn’t make it to college (should have walked-on in retrospect.) But three generations of family members have played in the league. The fourth, we think, is playing in the Big 12 right now. I just got the bad hips and slow foot speed!
truth
March 23rd, 2010
3:17 pm
If a team was gonna make the 3rd string wildcat pawn their stater they would get him asap and begin building around him. It would be stupid to wait til training camp to get him.
BPimp
March 23rd, 2010
3:17 pm
So, you pay a $1.5 roster bonus for a guy that can’t play QB? The hate has distorted the truth once again.
WreckinBall
March 23rd, 2010
3:26 pm
DOL – 4?s @ 12:22pm #1.M. Vick is not a good QB. #2. I don’t have a clue. #3. Who cares? #4. I don’t think he’s a good fit anywhere.
truth
March 23rd, 2010
3:26 pm
BPimp………..the Eagles had no chioce but to pay him the 1.5 mill, it was in his contract. They were hoping someone would had just sniffed at the possibilty of taking him before they did. Come get real!! If the 3rd string QB pawn was all that someone would want him.
Hollywould
March 23rd, 2010
3:29 pm
Vick average at best. that was a great blog. Man, I have been a STH since 97 and was behind Vick 100%. Never realized how bad his numbers were. You can never convince his followers now as this is all they can fall back on. As one of his followers said earlier TONYG said” I would rather watch Vick and lose than a boring QB and win.” Kinda shows you the mindset. These people are so delusional and in total denial. Once again, great blog/keep it up. GO FALCONS
marcus
March 23rd, 2010
3:33 pm
cheering for him had nothing to do with the color of his skin he was electric but he was not a passer maybe white wouldn’t of had a slow start to his career if vick was a better passer maybe price would of worked out in atlanta if vick was a better passer i’m tired if hearing people talk about vick in atlanta ryan is our qb only way i can see vick in atlanta again is for chump change and as a wild cat qb
Mike Jay
March 23rd, 2010
3:34 pm
LaVonia,
Have you ever PLAYED football? I don’t think mearly watching your family members play qualifies you to make assumptions about weither people who have never played are allowed to comment on it. That’s just such a silly argument anyhow. The world is full of people who critique/comment on things they do not do for a paycheck or recreation. Movie Critics don’t make movies, food critics don’t work as chefs. Olympic TV analayst have never Luged or Bobsleded. The list goes on and on.
marcus
March 23rd, 2010
3:43 pm
the real fact is he is not a good passer no one is going to pick him up he’s going to stay in philly til he’s contract runs out then he’s finish
WreckinBall
March 23rd, 2010
3:46 pm
I hate to see anyone get into trouble and go to jail. He has done his time and paid his debt to society. But I am glad that he is no longer a Falcon. The Falcons are a much better team without him. M. Vick is the same old story of an athlete who has it all and blows it, because he can’t play the fame game (like someone that can, as in Micheal Jordan). I hope that he will prosper wherever he lands, but he is gone and has moved on, so lets forget about him, because the Falcons have. GO FALCONS —- DEFEAT THE SAINTS IN 2010!!!
Marquesiel
March 23rd, 2010
3:54 pm
@ TheAntiMe……………I was saying the same thing…When the talk dies down and no on is talking about the falcons, throw Vick name out there lol….This post is pathetic
Mike Jay
March 23rd, 2010
3:59 pm
Guy’s. He was a #1 draft pick for the Falcons and started for 4+ seasons. Like him or not, he electrified the fan base of a long time downtrotten franchise. He had a spectaular, well documented fall from grace. He will ALWAYS make news in Atlanta. No way around it. However, posting and complaing everytime a new article mentions his name only encourages the bean counters to create more of the same. See, even negative feedback means you are reading it, no? If it bothers you soo much, STOP READING AND COMMENTING. Pretty simple.
GO FALCONS!!
March 23rd, 2010
3:59 pm
Who is Michael Vick?
CT
March 23rd, 2010
4:19 pm
@Vick^Average^At^Best
The stats you posted are true about Vick but the receiving core was playing like crap also. Roddy White was not as good as he is now. Think about the balls he dropped all by himself and most of them hit him square in the hands. I don’t think Vick is a pure qb but you do need to have the pieces in place to make it happen as well.
Vick Supporter
March 23rd, 2010
4:22 pm
Thats whats wrong with Falcon fans…all you talk about is QB rating this….percentages and all this other BS. The bottom line is winning.
Vick has a winning record as a starter. Thats what matters. And for you people to say that Roddy got better when Vick left, you people wasn’t saying that when Roddy was dropping WIDE OPEN PASSES WHILE HE WAS BY HIMSELF. Vick will have his day again…it doesn’t matter what you “fans” think. Look how he dominates your blog…you don’t even talk about your own QB because there nothing to talk about. You want to talk about average? Ryan is average at its best and he was EXPOSED just like I predicted he would be….can’t even throw a deep out,lol.
Keep your head up Vick. Your detractors know nothing.
Vick Supporter
March 23rd, 2010
4:23 pm
@Vick^Average^At^Best
Your stats mean nothing
Hollywould
March 23rd, 2010
4:29 pm
Vick Supporter, Come on man. Everytime your Choke boy(or stat boy) throws his Vick stats in you and your delusional follwers climb on his back. Cmon, you can’t have it both ways.
CT
March 23rd, 2010
4:30 pm
People are complaining about Vick! Man, Venny Interceptorverde played for years and look at all the picks he threw. He threw 275 TD’s and 267 ints. Enough said.
D. Orlando Ledbetter
March 23rd, 2010
5:32 pm
Hollywould — Thanks!
ORIGIN of this blog — I’d interviewed Coach Tony Dungy about the All Pro Dad organization and him coming to speak in College Park. Of course, I asked him about how his mentoring of Vick was going and I saved those quotes for this blog. Coach isn’t sure how the football part is going to work out for Vick. But then I got to thinking about all of the quarterbacks who have changed teams.
David
March 23rd, 2010
6:26 pm
I liked Shockley ;he has not had enough playing time to gel with the first string and does something that Payton and even Brett do all the time but he gets called out by a sports commntator ….his bouncey foot work the little hops he kinda takes …they do it and nothings said but old Shockley is ripped for the same jittery hop hop movements….Oh well I really think he is real diamond in the rough and besides Atlantas’ offensive line finally provides some sort of protection all of a sudden .Vick,Shockley, nor Redman had any real protection an few years ago and now they have protection and recievers now think about that and one heck of a coach . GIVE SHOCKLEY THE TIME TO TRUST THE OFFENSIVE LINEMEN AND HE WILL BE A SHOCKER…
Vick^Average^At^Best
March 23rd, 2010
9:31 pm
@ Vick Supporter
Stats mean nothing? Just clarifies what you know about the game of football and how it works my friend. You just lost all credibility with that comment. Give your head a shake bud. If stats mean nothing, please throw away the 1000 yard rushing season he had that you people desperately hang on too. Like Hollywould said, you cant have it both ways.
Year after year, Vick spent the seasons hurt or posting mediocre numbers that fall more in line with Aaron Brooks rather than Donovan McNabb. And yet, each offseason, “supporters” continue to predict big things for Vick, praising his revolutionary style and making excuses as to why he hasn’t been successful yet and why this will be the year. First it was the natural development of the QB–it takes a quarterback about three seasons before things officially lock in. Then it was the ineptitude of his receivers–yet the Falcons have always had a serviceable group that includes stand-out tight end Alge Crumpler, Roddy White, Jenkins ect.. Next was the adjustment Vick had to make to Jim Mora Jr.’s West Coast offense, which would need another couple of years or development. Now it’s Year ??? I have lost count now due to all the excuses. Its laughable. It’s time for you fans/supporters to wake up and realize that Vick was and is just no good. He’s got the same problems he has ALWAYS had, inconsistency, poor decision-making skills, rocketing passes instead of putting the “touch” and placement on a ball necessary for a receiver to catch it. The list goes on and on.
Look, before he was drafted Kyle Boller threw a football through the uprights from the 50-yard line, from his knees. That’s certainly athletically impressive, but no one’s confusing Boller for Marino. Yet Vick escaped his supporters ire by the aforementioned “revolutionary” style of play, which equates to nothing more than bailing out of a play at the first sign of resistance and taking off into the open field. On passing plays Vick ignores his receivers, looks to Crumpler as his first option, and takes off if he’s being covered. This style of play ensures two things:
1 – No team that Vick plays for will ever win a championship until Vick learns to pass.
2 – INJURY PRONE!
Vick’s best season came in 2002, when he threw for 2,936 yards and ran for another 777 with 24 combined TD’s (16 pass, 8 rush) and 8 INT. He’s never topped 3,000 passing yards in a season.
The most common defense I’ve heard of Vick is that it isn’t about his passing numbers–it’s about the adjustments he forces a defense to make and his multi-faceted skill set. I’m not sure about multi-faceted, as running seems to be his only true skill, and defenses–good defenses, at least–seem to have no problem figuring out how to play Vick. In the playoffs, where the victories count, you’ll find that every team has at least an above-average defense and most are stellar. They aren’t fooled by Vick, know he can’t pass, and usually throw a spy on him to make sure his run attempts and yards are kept to a minimum.
The other defense I hear regarding Vick is that his stats are inconsequential because his record as a starter speaks for itself. If you take a closer look. it isn’t as impressive. Vick’s 34-26-1 career record as a “starter” loses its luster when you break it down–he’s 24-6 against teams that were .500 or lower at the time the Falcons played them. Against teams with winning records he’s 7-13-1. This goes to show that Vick takes advantage of beating up on bad teams but can’t stand up to stiffer competition.
Besides, many average QBs have had great success in the wins column, because a quarterback does not a team make. A true barometer for a team’s talent is on their lines–a good rushing attack and rush defense can mask a lot of deficiencies elsewhere, and the Falcons had both while Vick was there. This is the same formula that got Brad Johnson and Trent Dilfer Super Bowl rings in recent years. Where is Vicks ring? The difference is that those two quarterbacks were “game managers,” meaning they made the requisite minimum of plays to put their teams in a position to win without turning the ball over or making bad decisions–two things Vick has struggled with. Truth is, we’ve seen just about all Michael Vick has to offer, and it’s not spectacular. At this point in his career it’s pointless to try to convert him to a pocket passer. You cant teach an old dog new tricks.
The real winner in all of this Vick hoopla is the San Diego Chargers, who were in position to draft him before trading down with the Falcons, in the process acquiring All-Everything running back, worldly talent LaDainian Tomlinson, who was consistently at the top of the NFL’s running back pile while Vick sits in the middle of his pack.
Marie
March 23rd, 2010
10:59 pm
Ledbetter its funny how you so called journalist like to add your opinions (your so-called three theories) as if these were established facts. The truth is you or no one else knows what teams are talking to Vick’s agent. Last year after he was released from prison all of you SILLY sports writer had a “death watch” list on Vick and were marking off teams that were not going to touch him for these SAME THREE THEORIES and whammo he lands in Philly (a team by the way had been on no-way list).
So now here you go again with your same STUPID columns about moves teams are making barely two months after the season has ended and because Vick hasn’t been picked up by another team — his chances of regaining a start in the NFL is gone.
Let me let you in on a secret Ledbetter — YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT Mike Vick will be doing at the beginning of the season. So quit making a fool out of yourself with these dire predictions about this man’s future. Like the old proverb states — it’s best to keep your words soft and sweet just in case you have to eat them.
lance
March 24th, 2010
4:48 am
For the non-football fan who said that a running QB has never made it in the Pro’s, it’s obvious you are no more a student of the game any more that your all have accused MV of being..How so
Kenny Stabler, John Elway, Steve Young, Mark Brunell, Randall Cunningham, and even Kordell Stewart as well as a countless other running QB’s have made an impact on the NFL.
As for baggage, MV’s situation is a mere shadow compared to the repeated complaints of rape against Ben Rothlesberger(One of my favorite QB’s, but not favorite person.)
Yet, everyone is talking about a damn dog-fighting charge!
Each time MV touched th field you knew something electrifying would happen.
as for inaccuracy…..
My favorite QB BRETT FARVE, has for the last 4-5 seasons made the critical mistake that has cost his teams shots at the Super Bowl.
The 4th quarter magic is gone, but durng the season Brett can get the job done.
Racism…..there are so many refurbished caucasian QB’s out there who haven’t and aren’t ever going to be @@@@@, yet time and time again they have been given opportunity after opportunity.
If you’ve ever played ball or any competitive sport in your life, then youunderstand that it’s desire which makes players become as great as they are. Prime Example:
I went to Lincoln High in San Diego, Terell Davis had been benched and cut from teams in San Diego.
Te greatest BB player in the world, Michael Jordan, was cut, becuase of inaccuracies in his game, and it was desire that mad ehim (under a great coach) become who he is today.
MV needs an opportunity just as all of the other QB’s have gotten.
phoenix falcon
March 24th, 2010
12:07 pm
i wonder whats going on with the FALCONS, I GUESS I HAVE TO GO TO ANOTHER PAPER/WEB SITE TO CHECK IN ON WHATS GOING ON WITH THE FALCONS, SHAME……………
Vick^Average^At^Best
March 24th, 2010
1:42 pm
@ Lance
Michael Vick has received a opportunity last time i checked? Pretty sure he is back in the NFL and on the Eagles roster?
Racism? Do you really wanna go there? Are you really using that as an example why Vick isn’t starting?
You wanna compare Michael Vicks career to Brett Favres? Really? Really? LoL.
Lance, you also say that Michael Vicks baggage and his situation is a mere shadow compared to the repeated complaints of sexual assault against Ben Roethlesberger? Although bad, and im not here to excuse it but, i gotta bring up a little known catch phrase that sounds a little somtheing like this ” Innocent until proven guilty”. Last time i checked Ben has not been charged with anything and has never been found guilty of anything. If he is however, i will be the first to take a swipe at him. You are aware Michael Vick gave NUMEROUS unsuspecting innocent women Herpes while he KNOWINGLY had it right? You remember Ron Mexico? Shall we go there?
And are you really comparing Michael Vick to Steve Young and John Elway or Randal Cunningham? I could have a field day with you. Most of what you claim is outrageous. Plain and simple.
Falcon Freddie
March 24th, 2010
6:05 pm
Coach “Reid says offers are being made for ALL THREE of the Philadelphia Eagles’ quarterbacks — McNabb, backup Kevin Kolb and former Atlanta Falcons starter Michael Vick.” (Source ESPN.com) Vick haters should take a hike. Where ever MV7 ends up, the Dome will still be chanting …We Want Vick! We Want Vick! We Want Vick!
Scott
March 24th, 2010
7:53 pm
Ok hmm Vick wasnt even supposed to be in the NFL according to alot of people and he did. And to those who say a running QB will never work umm it already has numerous time and the last one i can think of is o yeah……. Mike Vick the Man made it to the NFC Title game and made a really crappy franchise that much better. if Mike vick had never been drafted by atlanta the Falcons would be in the same boat as the lions and the whole resurgence of Football in ATL can be accredited to Mike Vick
Vick^Average^At^Best
March 24th, 2010
10:32 pm
Scott? Michael Vick made it to a Title game? Umm so did Trent Dilfer LOL! Whats your point?
Consistency and Development
March 25th, 2010
12:12 am
No playoffs last year? True.
How many back to back winning seasons in franchise history?
I’m looking forward, not back.
Vick will start again and I wish him the best.
The future is bright for the Falcons. The model for cosistently winning has been built.
Matt Ryan’s sophmore slump was a winning season. Let the “process” continue.
Tonyg
March 31st, 2010
10:25 am
First of all to you who are quite serious about these comments, don’t let this get to you because none of us know what we are talking about, just a lot of speculations, wishes backed up with almost 0 facts.
Here is my nothing on Vick:
Philadelphia brought Vick to town for only one reason, to be their starter. He is capable and showed it last year by coming in without a chance to develop any kind of rhythm and scoring touch downs (thats hard)and one only knows what he could have accomplished if he was the starter. He was used sparingly because they wanted to preserve him for 2010. Mcnabb is about to be traded, Kolb will crash early in the season and Vick will take over. Philly has already proved that they can handle any protesters, animal rights groups, peta (no caps on purpose because I feel that way about the hypocrites) and can separate his past history from his present. Vick will start for Philly an bring excitement to a team that needs it and also put bodies in seats. Why do you think Mcnabb and Kolb is trying so hard to get out of town. The writing is on the wall. Now there’s my nothing, bash away!
ATL Observer
April 1st, 2010
11:03 am
1) Why are teams shying away from Vick?
Someone else already pointed this out, but the biggest difficulty with Vick is that his skillset (assuming there hasn’t been any erosion) is SO unique that you basically have to re-craft your entire offense to suit it. Then if he gets hurt, you really have no backup in that mold. That might be fine if Vick is 22 years old and a team wants their next franchise QB, but Vick is 30 so the shelf life is eight years shorter.
2)Do you suspect the Eagles are holding him to drive up his trade value and will move him around the draft?
We’re all just onlookers and we don’t know $#!+ but based on my observations, it seems like the guy Reid really wants but doesn’t want to say out loud is Kolb. I think the team would be perfectly willing to trade *both* McNabb & Vick if they think it would help them build a team around the new guy. But he has to trade McNabb first because McNabb will definitely raise more of a fuss than Vick about not being the starter.
3) Will he remain in Philadelphia in his Wildcat role?
I’d answer that with a half “yes.” I think the McNabb talks have distracted people from the Vick pursuit which will leave him 2nd string behind Kolb. But because so much isn’t known about Kolb, it could either be “the kid’s great and Vick will just have to accept his Wildcat snaps” or it could be “wow, the guy’s really awful so I guess Vick’s the starter after all.”
4) Would he be a good fit in Minnesota if Brett Favre doesn’t come back?
Maybe…that team would be AWFULLY fast at that point. But at the same time, it wouldn’t really make their offense as multidimensional as it was in ‘09. McNabb would be the better fit though because he’s already worked with Childress, has less rust and would just “slip into” the role a lot better.
mikedaniels gvegas
April 5th, 2010
10:25 pm
go jail bird ha ha ha
Anonymous
April 7th, 2010
11:05 pm
I can’t believe anyone would even give this SOB a chance.
falcsfan14
April 10th, 2010
8:31 am
who cares?… we dont need vick he’s washed up hes not as good as he was when he was with up
doug
April 22nd, 2010
9:54 pm
micheal vicks needs to be a starting quarterback for whatever team pick him up. micheal has always been a starter all of his life. vicks has severed his time and everyone makes mistake let just move on and enjoy football please.
Brandon
May 6th, 2010
11:20 am
Everybody wants to come down on Vick the bottom line is that the man did his time and is trying to get his life back in order..and as far as it goes about VICK not having it anymore??? Are you crazy?? Vick still has it and he will get his chance to prove it! Not a Phillies Fan by any means ,but he will get his Chance somewhere…All you haters are in the way and I am assuming that most of you are Cowboys fans cause all they do is cry and wine and got to have something to b*thc about.GO VICK GLAD TO HAVE YOU BACK IN THE NFL….VA LOVE
Byrd48
July 29th, 2010
3:58 am
Let be honest Michael Vick put Atlanta on the map,other than the time they went to the superbowl in 98 Vick is not the best passer but what he is a Game Changer and he was good for the NFL on the field