Atlanta Falcons: 5 things we learned at the NFL combine
Signing Julius Peppers to a mega-deal doesn't appear to fit the Falcons definition of "fiscally responsible" moves. (Curtis Compton/AJC)
Back in the ATL – It was fast and furious at the NFL scouting combine over the last five days.
Got back in late last night, but on the plane I came up five things we learned at the NFL scouting combine.
Here they are:
1. FORGET ABOUT PEPPERS: The indicators are pointing toward the Falcons not getting involved in the Julius Peppers derby. The buzz words that keep coming from general manager Thomas Dimitroff are “fiscally responsible” moves. My man Charles Chandler of the Charlotte Observer noted that Peppers turned down a deal that would have paid him between $13 and $14 million last summer. A deal in a higher range doesn’t appear to fit the Falcons definition of “fiscally responsible.”
2. NO DEFENSIVE END IN THE FIRST ROUND: You can rule out a defensive end with the No. 1 pick. The Falcons like their ends and think the pass rush would have been just fine with defensive tackle Peria Jerry in the lineup last season.
“My feeling is this, last year we drafted Peria Jerry in the first round,” Dimitroff said. “Unfortunately for us he was injured. He was really coming along well. He was going to help create some pass rush up the middle. Obviously, he was going to free something up on the outside. We felt John Abraham was going to continue to get up field, as well as Kroy Biermann and some of our other young guys on the outside.”
3. MIDDLE OF LINE: Falcons center Todd McClure, unfortunately, isn’t going to play forever and his backup Brett Romberg is 29 years old. The Falcons are going to draft an interior lineman who can play guard and center at some point in this draft.
4. WIDE RECEIVER HELP: The wide receiver position will get addressed at some point in the draft. Injuries to Harry Douglas and Brian Finneran nearly decimated the depth behind Roddy White last season.
5. BIGGER CBs TO GET ADDED: Bigger cornerbacks are on the way. Just look at the size of the receivers in the NFC South. I wouldn’t be wise to rule out Oklahoma State cornerback Perrish Cox. While he has some off the field he issues, he can play the game. South Florida cornerback Jerome Murphy didn’t impress too many people when he showed up for interviews wearing white gold upper and lower teeth grills.
LSU's Rahim Alem's stats dropped in a scheme that called for him to drop into coverage more last season.
DILLARD’s 2010 PROMOTION: At the 2008 combine, agent Jason Dillard of Signature Sports Reps in Sacramento, Calif., passed out t-shirts with bios of four clients on the front and back.
He had a milk carton theme because he contended they were “missing” from the combine because they weren’t not invited. One of the “missing players” was Clifton Smith, who went on to make the Tampa Bay roster and was named a Pro Bowl. Another was defensive back Roy Lewis who played one game with Pittsburgh in 2008 and eight with Seattle last season.
This year Dillard was back with another plan to help promote LSU defensive end Rahim Alem and California wide receiver Verran Tucker. He had red and white popcorn bags delivered to the media lounge with a bag of microwave popcorn, candies and a highlight DVD of Alem and Tucker entitled, “201o NFL Combine Movie Night.”
“Basically, teams had specific questions that we hope the DVDs would answer,” Dillard said.
The feedback on the DVDs has been positive.
“I actually sat down with one defensive coordinator last night,” Dillard said. “He appreciated it. Rahim is going to do the linebacker drills today and by the time he runs everybody will be looking forward to meeting him.”
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Bangkapi Ajarn
March 1st, 2010
10:28 am
Interesting observation about a DE in the draft. Would Graham be considered a DE or an OLB in this senario?
blord
March 1st, 2010
10:40 am
So I guess your thinking we go corner in the first? If true that surprises me unless we trade back. One thing I have learned about TD is that he makes the right moves and to this point they usually aren’t in line with what I think should happen. I guess that is why i make what i make and he makes what he makes. Hope P. Jerry is the real deal and stays healthy this year. Wonder if we might consider taking his brother this year?
blord
March 1st, 2010
10:48 am
DOL,
From your conversations with TD have you gotten the impression at all that we may make moves to pick up a 2nd rounder?
rico43
March 1st, 2010
11:03 am
1) Go for one top-shelf FA cornerback; re-sign Williams.
2) Draft best linebacker available, inside or outside, in 1st round
3) Take Cox in 3rd round if still available
4) Good WRs and OLs will be available from that point forward
See, wasn’t that simple?
Marcus
March 1st, 2010
11:06 am
TD appears to be a little coy and maybe even plays on words (as expected) but did he give any indication on those college DEs who project to be OLBs (similar question to Bangkapi Ajarn)?
Those would include Jerry Huges (TCU), S. Kindle (Texas), and maybe even B. Graham (Michigan)?
Hughes and Kindle probably have the footspeed to make the transition to OLB, not so sure about Graham.
D. Orlando Ledbetter
March 1st, 2010
11:19 am
Bangkapi Ajarn: Grahamn is a DE on Falcons board.
Blord: I came away thinking CB or WLB eventual replacement for Mike Peterson or a SLB for Nicholas, with Nicholas maybe going to WLB. I’ve to Friday to sort it up for the update Mock Draft. Really impressed with Weatherspoon (short arms), but not sure he’ll be there at 19.
Blord: The could trade the one and fall back into the second and get two picks. But Dimitroff said he’s inclined to keep his picks and not do the Ted Thompson fall back move.
Marcus: Graham on the Falcons board. Don’t know about the others. Kindle will not be there when they pick. Folks are still figuring out who Hughes is. He’s not worthy of the 19th at this point.
Matty Ice
March 1st, 2010
11:19 am
Ledbetter does not know…..he’s just stirring the pudding.
Do you honestly think the Falcons brass is going to tell the beatwriter what they are doing. Nobody with half a brain thinks the Falcons pass rush is acceptable “as is” with Peria Jerry back. C’mon D-Led.
D. Orlando Ledbetter
March 1st, 2010
11:22 am
Matty Ice: This is a DIRECT QUOTE from TD. Yes he gave up some info:
“My feeling is this, last year we drafted Peria Jerry in the first round,” Dimitroff said. “Unfortunately for us he was injured. He was really coming along well. He was going to help create some pass rush up the middle. Obviously, he was going to free something up on the outside. We felt John Abraham was going to continue to get up field, as well as Kroy Biermann and some of our other young guys on the outside.”
(ICE — I tell you when I’m stirring the pudding. When I’ve got intel. I share it)
Matty Ice
March 1st, 2010
11:26 am
ok D-Led……so when Falcons take Brandon Graham in the 1st round – then what will you say?
Matty Ice
March 1st, 2010
11:28 am
btw, I would like to see Falcons take Sean Weatherspoon in 1st round and maybe a corner in 3rd round.
Grab Kyle Vandenbosh or Patrick Kerney as a “stopgap” starter until the kids (Bierrman/Sidbury) develop – neither are ready now to do anything more than rotational. With Abe not playing more than 60% of the snaps, we need to rotate somebody else in to rush the passer.
Matty Ice
March 1st, 2010
11:38 am
bottom-line, and not trying to be ugly here………your quotes above do not prove the Falcons won’t take a Defensive End in 1st round…….
I don’t even want the Falcons to take a defensive end in the first round – so, its not like I am wishing you wrong – I just fail to see how you draw your conclusion from your QUOTE……
Please explain your conclusion that Falcons won’t take a Defensive End in 1st round
D. Orlando Ledbetter
March 1st, 2010
11:42 am
Matty Ice: This is where we are today on March 1. Things could and will change before April 22. If they like there DEs and Brandon Graham’s is a DE, then he’s not coming here. TD’s telling us they like their DEs. Get off the pass rush. TD and Smitty don’t think it’s a problem with Jerry and Babineaux pushing up the middle. THAT’S WHAT HE’S TRYING TO TELL US. Start looking elsewhere to explain the 28th ranking in pass defense. LB’s pass coverage and CB’s size are the two that come to mind without a film study or statistically review.
GATORZONE
March 1st, 2010
11:42 am
DOL, while I am sure you do have a direct quote from TD, why would he let other teams rule out anything? This is a diversion. I would be surprised if they did not consider adding more Dline help…
God knows the Falcons need it!
GATORZONE
March 1st, 2010
11:46 am
Quotes from GM’s do not prove anything.
Matty Ice
March 1st, 2010
11:50 am
thank you gatorzone……..we are in full blown “liar season” for NFL GM’s and coaches…..Nobody had a clue that Falcons were going for Matt Ryan until about 24 hours prior to the draft….I don’t think D-Led predicted Falcons were going “Peria Jerry” last year either….
Unless Dimitroff gave Ledbetter something “off the record” that he is not allowed to print – then there is not enough in the above statement to prove anything…..
Falcons pass rush last year was pathetic. John Abraham has two years left on his contract but this could be his last year if he has another disappointing season. Bierrman and Sidbury show promise but neither have the kind of size to stay on the field on running downs.
Peria Jerry is a good penetrating defensive tackle but so are a lot of teams defensive tackles – if you don’t have good D-Ends you will get smoked in the NFL – as the Falcons did last year…
D. Orlando Ledbetter
March 1st, 2010
11:50 am
ICE AND GATORZONE: I love the both of you. Just trying to help here. There’s a lot of conversation in front of the quote and after the quote that buttress what we learned at the combine. One thing we learned is that they like their DEs and think that with Jerry and Babs pushing the pocket, drawing three and sometimes four blockers that their ends will be just fine.
Mike Pete is 33. Makes sense to get his replacement on board. Look at the size of the receivers in the division. They have to get better and bigger at DB. That’s just want we learned at the combine.
Just thinking out loud, it would be wise for us — right now — to get off the DEs and start doing more work on the LBs and big CBs like Weatherspoon and Perrish Cox right now.
TD doesn’t play the division game. He shoots you straight and if he doesn’t want to answer the question, he’ll politely decline. He’s not into diversions.
I’m just saying . . .
Papooh
March 1st, 2010
11:54 am
1 SEAN WEATHERSPOON OLB/MIZZ
3 DOMINIQUE FRANKS CB/OU
4 BRANDON LANG DE/TROY
4 DENNIS PITTA TE/BYU
5 DEMARYIUS THOMAS WR/GT
5 MIKE TEPPER OT/CAL
6 ZANE BEADLES OG-C/UTAH
7 CHRIS BROWN RB/OKL
WHAT DO YOU THINK??
blord
March 1st, 2010
11:55 am
I like Weatherspoon as well. I love the idea of both he and Curtis for years to come. I think we are really building something on Defense. It also looks like Spoon is going up the draft board so i am not sure he will be there for us at 19. If he does though that means someone else will fall to us. Wish we had a 2nd but glad we have Gonzo.
D. Orlando Ledbetter
March 1st, 2010
12:00 pm
Papooh: Like your picks. Thomas is long gone before the fifth. Smitty said RB is not a priority. Dump the RB and throw another LB or DB in there.
Matty Ice
March 1st, 2010
12:01 pm
well D-Led, I’m going to “agree to disagree” with you and I do think Falcons will address D-End in either free agency, 1st, 3rd, or 3rd round comp picks. But enough of that for now. Let’s move on…
I really like Sean Weatherspoon and I think he would be a very nice fit for Falcons at WLB. I also agree that Falcons need upgrade at corner……and would love a corner with size. But how many are there? Jerome Murphy is one but he is probably a late 2nd rounder and you already said he was kind of suspect….Perrish Cox is 5′11″ – so he’s not exactly a skyscraper.
I would love to see Falcons trade back 7-10 picks and pick up extra late 2nd/3rd rounder and then grab ‘Spoon and a corner….would be a sound strategy.
Matty Ice
March 1st, 2010
12:05 pm
Papooh,
Broke foot or no broke foot, you are not getting Demaryous Thomas in the 5th round – get real. I think he goes late 2nd/early 3rd – probably to his old college coach – Chan Gailey who is now the head coach of Buffalo Bills. Gailey will want him to replace T.O. and the Bills GM (Nix) comes from an organization(Chargers) that values huge wideouts (Vincent Jackson, Malcolm Floyd, TE-Antonio Gates)……anyway, that is my theory. Maybe if we got lucky “bey-bey” would last to the Falcons 3rd round pick – very doubtful though – 5th round is a pipe dream.
Juice
March 1st, 2010
12:10 pm
Okay you use a TD quote that can be misinterpreted as the basis for your entire thought process. That’s terrible when half a dozen other quotes made by TD can be interpreted to mean the opposite of what you’re saying.
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Richie Rich
March 1st, 2010
12:26 pm
D.O.L your secondary help can come if we sign Dunta Robinson or Antrel Rolle.
Lewis Grizzard's Ghost
March 1st, 2010
12:33 pm
Hey ICE and GZone, that was fun . . .
If I’d had someone like ya’ll holding me accountable I’da written better stuff . . . who am I kidding, does anybody remember Minter and Bisher? I was held accountable . . . anyway, that was fun, guys!
Good job, D-Led, good job!
Mave2124
March 1st, 2010
12:35 pm
Why are you back in the ATL? The combine lasts 2 more days and the CB workouts are on Tuesday???? Do the media people leave easrly and coaches stay? or only scouts? Are the player interiews over? How do the coaches get picked to run drills? Saw our TE coach on Saturday.
King of Stone Mountain
March 1st, 2010
12:39 pm
D.O.L. – Man, tell me you’re not wearing THAT necktie today… Ditch that!
King of Stone Mountain
March 1st, 2010
12:41 pm
Correction… Bowtie
willie
March 1st, 2010
12:43 pm
I tend to believe TD is telling the truth. I think that any DE available at 19 is a crapshoot. On the other hand, I think an OLB would be a much safer pick. We desperately need another CB, so if TD falls in love with one, I’m OK with that too.
Bangkapi Ajarn
March 1st, 2010
12:46 pm
Did TD give any indication of his thoughts on upgrading the kicking game (invest a low round draft pick vs free agency vs trade). The meltdown there cost the falcons a playoff spot I believe, if you move one or two L’s into the W column if fieldgoals were made.
D. Orlando Ledbetter
March 1st, 2010
12:56 pm
Mave2124: There’s no more media availability after Sunday. More than 250 people come through the media room between Thursday and Sunday. Was up there from Wed to Sunday night. Also, we have to be “fiscally responsible.”
Richie Rich: Remember, the buzz words are “fiscally responsible.”
Love 4 T O
March 1st, 2010
12:57 pm
How soon can we sign T O ?????????
D. Orlando Ledbetter
March 1st, 2010
1:05 pm
Bangkapi Ajarn: Nothing new on the kicking game. They have the two on the roster — Bryant and Hauschka. And they had the three Canadian dudes in for tryouts.
Lewis Grizzard's Ghost
March 1st, 2010
1:08 pm
Does T O still have his house in Lithonia?
D. Orlando Ledbetter
March 1st, 2010
1:08 pm
Love 4 T O: “The Word” at the combine was that T. O. was headed to Baltimore. Don’t think the Falcons are interested.
D. Orlando Ledbetter
March 1st, 2010
1:17 pm
LG’s Ghost: Not sure if T.O. ever sold that house of Panola Road.
D. Orlando Ledbetter
March 1st, 2010
1:19 pm
Not offended. Just off topic. We make the corrections and keep it moving. It’s a football blog.
Hawkshurrah
March 1st, 2010
1:25 pm
Fair enough answer. Thx.
Khao$
March 1st, 2010
1:30 pm
They can call it “fiscally responsible” all they care to. I’ll call it cheap if we don’t bring in some vets to play along side this young talent. The NFL is still a MAN’s league. And unlike some faithful Dimitroff, I’m not completely sold. Yes, the drafting of “Matty Ice” was brilliant. So were other moves…from the draft two years ago. However, Baker (from year one) has been injury prone and our two highest picks from year two were both hurt last year. Correct me if I’m wrong, but all three had injury flags coming out of college. And in the cases of Baker and Jerry, we suffered at their positions. I believe in building through the draft. However, why not bring young guys on slowly and let them play their way onto the field Steeler’s style? Are the Falcons allergic to veteren leadership? If we go into free agency they way we did last year and bring out another patchwork defense, I’ll be beside myself. That 9-7 record is a testament to Smith coaching and not what Dimitroff put on the field. One draft does not make him Ron Wolf…
Blue Fender
March 1st, 2010
1:36 pm
I’m amazed how so many of you people still want everyone else’s throwaways (Dunta, TO, LT, etc.). If those guys have issues with their current (or former) teams, then they will bring those issues with them. Look at Pacman. That worked out great for Dallas…NOT!
EVERYBODY GET OFF THE DIVA BAND WAGON!!!
Juice
March 1st, 2010
1:36 pm
Ledbetter:
“Matty Ice: This is where we are today on March 1. Things could and will change before April 22. If they like there DEs and Brandon Graham’s is a DE, then he’s not coming here. TD’s telling us they like their DEs. Get off the pass rush. TD and Smitty don’t think it’s a problem with Jerry and Babineaux pushing up the middle. THAT’S WHAT HE’S TRYING TO TELL US. Start looking elsewhere to explain the 28th ranking in pass defense. LB’s pass coverage and CB’s size are the two that come to mind without a film study or statistically review.”
They have said that we will need to address the pass rush problems. They’ve also said that pass defense starts at the line and makes the secondary better. You quote our pass defense ranking but fail to quote where we rank in number of sacks… maybe you should look that one up too–correlation?
Lewis Grizzard's Ghost
March 1st, 2010
1:44 pm
D-Led . . . In a previous post this week TD had some pretty favorable comments about UGA’s LB, Rennie Curran, have you heard any mention of interest at all?
Khao$
March 1st, 2010
1:45 pm
Also, we have to expect a suspension for Jonathan Babineaux to start the season. He was probably our best lineman last year. We need to add some more depth.
falcon60
March 1st, 2010
1:47 pm
If Matty Ice and some of the other “draft wizards” know so much, why are they writing on a blog and not working in the NFL?
I’m just sayin’………
D. Orlando Ledbetter
March 1st, 2010
1:54 pm
Hawkshurrah: I need to thank you.
LG’s Ghost: He seemed to like Rennie. Was just addressing the question. Robert James is in the same stature as Rennie and they’ve been developing him for two years.
Khao$: Word at the combine was that we should hear something from the league before the start of training camp on Babs.
Juice: TD’s rationale is that Jerry makes those sacks numbers better. Stay with us here. We’re trying to help.
falcons89
March 1st, 2010
2:25 pm
in terms of trading down (if that happens), I think the best chance is if CJ Spiller is available at 19, the San Diego Chargers would love to trade up and grab him. If we add Jerious Norwood to the deal, I think a fair trade would the Chargers first and second round this year and also their next years first round pick. Maybe im just a high hoper?
Also, i think that either Sergio Kindle or Kyle Wilson will be available at 28, for the falcons to pick up at that spot. Again, just hopeful.
Ree Roe
March 1st, 2010
2:32 pm
@ D. Led, so am I to believe that DE is not a priority for the Falcons in the draft or in free agency? It sounds like CB, LB, WR & OL are bigger priorities than the line right now.
Any word on what recently released free agents we might go after? Adalius Thomas might make sense at LB…what do you think?
-Roe v. REE!!!
artist formally known as OJ Da Jew Man
March 1st, 2010
2:42 pm
@ D Led
Aye Cuz, dont erase my posts again!!!!!!!
Do it one more time and next time I see you at Stats Ima slap that pack of Ball Park franks from the back of ya neck cuz!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
falcons89
March 1st, 2010
2:43 pm
also, for the third round, I’d like us to pick up WR Eric Decker, he has awesome athletic ability and is a great run blocker….he would be a nice slot receiver for us.
McBubba
March 1st, 2010
2:51 pm
Decker is a MAN!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtTh_FNIkP8
Sam
March 1st, 2010
2:55 pm
What everyone is forgetting is that the Atlanta Falcons run the same defense/offensive schemes as the Pittsburgh Steelers. The Steelers D is built on GREAT LINEBACKERS and SAFETY playmaking with help from the middle of the defensive line. Less focus is place on DE and CB positions but this strategy has its holes when the playmaking safety is out ( see 2009 Troy Polamalu).
Project 2010 Core Falcons Defense:
- Peria Jerry and Jonathan Babineaux = consistent pressure from interior lineman
- Curtis Lofton and (if available) Sean Weatherspoon (video) http://bit.ly/ckbZcL = game changing LB’s like the Steelers LaMarr Woodley & James Harrison
- William Moore and Thomas DeCoud = safety playmakers that can blitz from anywhere like SS Troy Polamalu.
I am sure Mr. Dimitroff will go after a cost effective free agents and target big CB’s like Perrish Cox but his focus is on finishing his plan of adding the right personal for his version of a Steelers LB/SS driven defense.
Marshawn
March 1st, 2010
3:09 pm
So Jerome Murphy shows up with grills so his stock is going to drop. How racist can you get.
Mydooris Ajar
March 1st, 2010
3:13 pm
Why dont the Falcons get rid of that slacker Jonny Abraham. He loafs on the back side and get hurt too often. Draft that Campbell guy and convert him to the D line.
Mydooris Ajar
March 1st, 2010
3:15 pm
It’s not racist it’s a lifestyle the NFL wants to avoid. Yeah boyeee!
The Franchise
March 1st, 2010
3:22 pm
Maybe we should grab Clausen at 19, and trade that ryan kid for some help on D.
Billy
March 1st, 2010
3:25 pm
Weatherspoon or Kindle would be a good pick in the 1st round. I get what Mr Ledbetter’s saying, but I wouldn’t rule out Graham, either.
Prophet
March 1st, 2010
3:25 pm
Dimitroff seemed to imply that they have given up on Jamaal Anderson and are putting more hope on Kroy Biermann, who has actually produced, to be the opposite of Abraham. This would leave me to believe that they are not in search for a new defensive end since it has already been taken care of and taking another one in the draft would to just add depth to the position.
This leaves the holes of an OLB to replace the aged Mike Peterson, added depth to the receiver corps, add depth to the O-line, and maybe find an heir apparent to Tony Gonzalez. Judging from what TD has done the past two years it is obvious he’ll find the right talent that Mike Smith wants and needs.
Reid Adair
March 1st, 2010
3:28 pm
Good news – on all fronts. I agree wholeheartedly with some height at cornerback, some youth on the offensive line (particularly the guard/center spot) and some depth at receiver.
JJ
March 1st, 2010
3:51 pm
DOL, welcome to the SPOON train!!!
atl
March 1st, 2010
3:51 pm
Trading norwood is out of the question we have a 3 headed monster with 33, 32, 44 injures are a part of the game it happens to all teams give norwood open space to run like saints do reggie bush and norwood is threat to go all the way we have seen that b4 with him shuffle passes and all
SeenThisB4
March 1st, 2010
3:53 pm
The Saints don’t have BIG cornerbacks. Porter and Greer aren’t even 6 feet tall, they’re both 5-11 and they are considered one of the best CB tandems in the league. So why do the falcons need tall CBs? Seems like DOL has a miscomprehension of what the CBs should be. FAST AND QUICK!!!!
Tailback U
March 1st, 2010
3:54 pm
DOL
Thanks for the good info and insight from TD.
I like you take him at his word but can’t help questioning the
Falcons judgement as it was related to you. I do not question
their decision to not draft a DE in the first round, but rather
their comfort level with what they have there currently.
I question it for one major reason . Even if you assume that
Biermann and Sidbury are adaquate for the job in my mind Abraham
cannot be counted on for two well known reasons.
Number one is his history of injury problems and the second thing
is last year he was a shadow of his former self.
I am not saying he could not bounce back with a great year but
that is not how things typically work out in the NFL.
Instead of counting on much of anything from him I would be
looking at it as a bonus instead. That being the case it
seems to me you have to get someone at that position either
from free agency or the draft.
BigTimeTECHFan
March 1st, 2010
4:00 pm
Can we get Tebow at 19, that would be sweet. Give him one or two years to develop under M Ryan.
blord
March 1st, 2010
4:06 pm
DOL, MB needs to read your post. He doesn’t realize we are not taking a DE
waynester
March 1st, 2010
4:08 pm
Falcons89
I’ve been kind of harping on the same proposed tradedown wit the Chargers all weekend on the various AJC Falcons blogs. Your notion of adding Norwood to the mix makes the deal even better. We have different players on our wish-lists ( I like 1 Weatherspoon/Iupati 2 McClusters) but we’re on the same wavelength. I like Decker, but in the 4th, not 3rd(where I want quality depth on the lines).
Good on ya
tt44
March 1st, 2010
4:11 pm
I sadly think J. Abraham, has lost his disire to be all he can be on the field, or perhaps, he cant….dont know, but, I was disappointed in his efforts last season,,,I saw others giving more effort! Peppers is not the answere, he is not worth the $….He too is slowing down…GO FALCONS!
Falcoon
March 1st, 2010
4:11 pm
Sam the falcons are a 4-3 team the steelers are a 3-4 not the same so much for your theroy
GT in Gold Town
March 1st, 2010
4:14 pm
I heard we might trade Turner to San Diego for Cromartie and a second. Any news on that?
blord
March 1st, 2010
4:16 pm
GT in Gold Town,
I am pretty sure the Turner/trade thing is the result of too many people having time on their hands. No way that happens.
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Kyle
March 1st, 2010
4:51 pm
Lets worry about being fiscally responsible after we tie the Saints in Superbowl wins. Who the hell would have ever thought we would be saying that…..sad.
ryan
March 1st, 2010
4:51 pm
GT in Gold Town i don’t know what you are smoking we are not giving up Turner for Cromartie. If we go a free agent it would somebody like Antrell Rolle from the Cards. I hope we draft Spoon or Graham.
OLB Fan
March 1st, 2010
5:00 pm
Listening to TD and Smitty talking about the process in building a team — I would bet the Falcons choose a LB or hybrid LB/DE with their 1st draft selection. Why? look at depth. The Falcons have depth at CB and defensive line. Lack of depth at LB is glaring. Middle rounds and extra picks will see the Falcons taking quite a few OLs.
realbirdofprey
March 1st, 2010
5:06 pm
im not sure if you are really dumb or trying to be funny but why in the hell would we trade away matt ryan or draft a QB before round 6 (if that) in this draft and the thing with the CB from south florida that was just unprofessional and dumb (unless they are permanent) but it conveys that he isnt mature or he’s ignorant to not have the sense to take them out before the biggest interview of his life with that being said i really hope we get sean wetherspoon does anybody know the teams before us that are likely or have a chance to take him before us?
Terry
March 1st, 2010
5:17 pm
I guess the Falcons are running out of room in the trophy case. That’s got to be the reason you don’t go after a player like Peppers. Seriously, the Falcons have been notorious losers for 40 years and nothing has changed.
J.J.M.
March 1st, 2010
5:38 pm
sign dante robinson. draft a LB
knewhotness
March 1st, 2010
5:51 pm
if dimitroff is as smart as i think he is, he will select earl thomas with the 19th pick to become our shutdown cornerback. he’s the next asante samuel, only better.
DC Dirty Bird
March 1st, 2010
5:52 pm
D Led, on top of saying that we needed to be fiscally responsible TD also said that he planned on being creative with contracts in light of the uncapped year. That should be discussed as well.
Samuel
March 1st, 2010
5:57 pm
If you want to beat the New Orlean Saints, you have to get a good young pass rusher. Or a tall corner who can shut down Colston. Although teams run the ball- most of the good teams are pass happy.
Samuel
March 1st, 2010
6:07 pm
I think we keep Turner, I like him better than Adrian Peterson. Turner is simply a beast when he is healthy. The Falcons this year should get deep in the playoffs or in the Super Bowl. Anything less is unexceptable. Remember the nfc south is becoming one of the better division.
jerry
March 1st, 2010
6:12 pm
The DE’s can’t get to the QB without Jerry? Damn! Give that man a big raise.
D. Orlando Ledbetter
March 1st, 2010
6:18 pm
(Laptop crashed! Help is on the way from the Help Desk. They are good. In mean time, I’m on Queen Led’s PC)
Falcons89: Kindle is gone by 19. If Wilson is there, he’d be a good pick. He told us the story about the family RV. His brother, the owner, now lives in California.
OJ: Don’t like your name. . . get a new handle. I run this show. . . CUZ!
Marshawn: Not racist. That’s just country. Grills to the club. . . that’s fine. Grills to your job interview . . .not so good.
JJ: Yeah, I think I’m on the Spoon train. Got some room? Just need someone to tell me that I don’t need to be worried about his short arms.
DC Dirty Bird: Good point. But my translation on that is they’ll look to do more incentive laden deals. Not necessarily big money deals.
hiramsaint
March 1st, 2010
6:37 pm
samuel- good idea ’cause the saints have no-one else who can catch the ball. are you sure your not smitty in desquise?
Tia
March 1st, 2010
6:48 pm
No NFL games for me any more. College games are much more fun to watch.
I watched the Falcons for several decades until I just got tired of the third-rate performances by overpaid players.
falcon21
March 1st, 2010
7:22 pm
You should have said several decades under a third rate owner. We have a owner now that wants to win a Super Bowl or 4 or 5 and will do what it takes to get it done.
Wetherspoon Fan
March 1st, 2010
7:48 pm
I’d say we take Spoon at 19th. Especially since he WANTS to be here. Then McCluster in the 3rd (he’s a WR/RB/KR and fills many needs) if he falls to us. If not maybe we move up to get him in the 2nd somehow. Any thoughts D Led?
Also see us taking lots of OL depth in subsequent picks.
DePlane
March 1st, 2010
8:37 pm
D Led….I’m sorry you have to put up with the likes of a low down scurve like OJ whats his sap.
I’m with you on the spoon train! I think he’d be a great addition. I still like Graham too though and I wouldn’t be dissapointed with either. The good news is there is a fairly deep pool of talent and so should be a decent 3rd and 4th round so we should be able to add some depth on the lines.
CJ Spiller is something else…and will be gone w/Kindle and Mclain…but fun to dream what you could do with him. Wouldn’t Taylor Mays be a shocker…
TNScott
March 1st, 2010
9:23 pm
As a long time Falcons fan, I would love to see the Falcons select Dan Williams with their first pick. I admit that the Falcons should be better with Jerry recovered. The main concern is whether Jerry can overcome his history of injuries that has seemingly followed him from his days at Ole Miss.
Jawbreaker
March 1st, 2010
9:34 pm
Peppers will demand a big contract, and if he has one bad season, it will be a total washout. With the money he wants, he can’t have a bad season. He wants too much money, and he’s just not worth the risk. Forget about TO, we have issues at WR, but we don’t need him. Time to build for the future.
Tia
March 1st, 2010
9:36 pm
Peppers is not remotely worth the big bucks and the troubles he’ll cause.
A big PASS.
Mata
March 1st, 2010
9:40 pm
Peppers = no.
Spiller = maybe…
Most of the free agents will be way overpriced, use the money on the draft.
Delbert D.
March 1st, 2010
10:12 pm
Give Tebow 2 years to develop what, exactly???
No Peppers, no T.O.
Babineaux has got to be traded, in the name of human decency. Need another CB to try out, or another LB.
Everything is predicated on Jerry coming back strong.
Tokyo Bravo
March 1st, 2010
10:30 pm
DOL- why no buzz at all about Myron Rolle? Smart kid, who I thought was very highly rated coming out of college. Has the time away from football as a Rhodes scholar done that much damage to his draft position?
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thunderbull56
March 1st, 2010
11:07 pm
Running back not a priority? Lemme see, 2009,Running back depth,hummmmn, lemme see.Bruiser Broussard, err Norwood.Ummn.Let’s all Knash our teeth over a freakin DE or corner while we rush for less than three yards a carry. I’m telling you MT is going to be a one hit wonder.Gonzalez too.Yeah,give the defensive side it’s due, but pick up a running back and tight end for rainy days.
I MUS WRITE
March 1st, 2010
11:36 pm
So what happens if Peria Jerry is’nt fully healed by the opener.An ACL injury usually takes a year plus to get all the way right. Trey lewis has’nt been the same since he went down, jus say’n that i dont think its wise to put all our hopes for the d line on a player that was on IR all last year.
I think Tyson Alaua from Cal would be a nice pick in round 3 if we go CB/OLB at 19, I would prefer to trade dwn and get a second- My dream sceneraio would be
1st- Weatherspoon OLB
2nd- Cox/Wilson CB
3rd- Greg Hardy- Ole Miss DE
3rd- Tyson Alaua
4th- John Jerry OG
5th- Decker WR Minnesota
5th -Anthony Dixon RB Miss St
6th- Best Available OL
7th- traded for tye no thrill hill…………….
J
March 2nd, 2010
12:55 am
We need to sign TO. Coach can keep him in line and think about the vets we would have. Try to cover Tony, TO, and Roddy, with the run game we have as long as we can give Matty some time. TO=super bowl. He is out to prove he can still play and despite his arrogant attitude the man can play some football.
Big Ray
March 2nd, 2010
1:59 am
I’m always amused by bloggers who come straight in to tell the beat writer he has no clue what he’s talking about, then keep pursuing the subject. I’m sure they can decipher and get more out of what the GM is saying/doing. After all, the probably have him on speed dial, right?
Glad to hear the TD thinks Peria Jerry was a big key to the pass rush. I seem to recall somebody saying that Peria Jerry couldn’t compare to Jamaal Anderson, who was a much better defensive tackle. Strange how all the facts (plus the words of the GM) are pointing to the pass rush going SOUTH once Jerry was out. Strange how Jerry, a rookie, had the starting job while Anderson rotated off the bench. Mike Smith must have been a complete idiot. Strange how TD figures our defensive ends would do better once Jerry is healthy and back in there. Strange how TD says Jerry was coming along very well.
Yes, all of that points to Jamal Anderson and his exploits at DT. Right.
I see us getting an OLB in the first round. But that’s just what I see. Maybe I should try contacting those bloggers who know it all. They know where TD’s misdirection lies are really pointing…..
cwltank
March 2nd, 2010
2:28 am
we will definately trade the 1st rd pick
we have no second round pick
the need is high for a tall corner, linebackers, safetys, off lineman, andlast but not least recievers.
we will trade the 19th pick for a second and a 3rd that gives us 2 picks and the contracts of 2 will equal 1
Witherspoon will be there early second round & we will sign linemans and develop them remember it takes at least 2-3 years for a lineman to produce unless hes a stud!!!!!!!!!!!
Gonzalez is a great TE but besides White we have no threat. yea H D is good but maybes dont win games I wiil be shocked if we keep the 19th pick
Ted Striker
March 2nd, 2010
6:34 am
Smart moves by Jason Dillard. Guy sounds like he works for his clients.
Bird Droppings
March 2nd, 2010
7:36 am
Sign Brandon Marshall and this offense takes off.
IceFan
March 2nd, 2010
8:03 am
Draft Spoon!!!!!
Bird Droppings
March 2nd, 2010
9:26 am
We don’t need to draft a WR or a CB – both of them take 2 to 3 years to develop typically and we don’t have time to wait. Our needs are immediate. That’s why we need to sign Brandon Marshall and Dunta Robinson as FAs and draft Spoon as an OLB and fill in the gaps with offensive and defensive linemen through the draft. Nice mix of youth and veteran leadership at the skill positions. And just imagine Matty Ice with Marshall and Roddy and Douglas at WR, Gonzalez at TE, and Michael Turner in the backfield. OUCH!!!
Paddy O
March 2nd, 2010
10:09 am
to be honest, our blitzing stunts are not very inventive – we need something like the Eagles a couple years ago or the Vikings against the Cowboys in the playoffs – something that probably needs to be adjusted for each game. Pass rush wise, we just don’t scare people – either LB or CB speed rushes. I still our line does not get a good outside push.
Delbert D.
March 2nd, 2010
11:18 am
Drafting Spiller or McCluster are crazy ideas. The Falcons don’t need “extra pieces”, they need every-down players on the base offense an defense.
cutter
March 2nd, 2010
11:46 am
Joe Haden ran a 4.60 forty at combine. WTF! I like Spoon but he is starting to look like a MLB. Short arms, runs a 4.68 forty. Joe Haden will drop down with that forty time, you can not be a shut down corner running 4.60 forties.
Ken Strickland
March 2nd, 2010
11:55 am
BIRD DROPPINGS-you seem to be more focused on FANTANSY FOOTBALL than NFL football. You obviously haven’t bothered to do any research on either player, other than to buy into the hype and name recognition. First, the Broncos will likely make WR BMarshal a 1yr tender, which means any team signing him would have to give up a 1st and 3rd rd pick, plus sign him to a max contract. You seem to be unable to understand what TD and Smitty mean when they repeatedly say THEY INTEND TO BE FISCIALLY RESPONSIBLE.
Besides, BMarshall has proven to be a complete cancer, and we don’t need a head case on a team as young and inexperienced as the Falcons. We are primarily a rushing OFF, RWhite is our primary WR, so after playing on a pass oriented OFF, Marshall might not be satisfied with the limited opportunities he’d get and end up becoming another version of TOwens.
I have absolutely no idea why all of you Donta Robinson fans are have the idea he is the solution to our CB problems. It certainly isn’t based on any attempted research on the man. He had ZERO(0)INTS last yr, only 9PD(passes defended) and 64TT(total tackles) in 16gms as a starter. He hasn’t had more than 12PD’s or 2INT’s in a season since 2004. Over the last 5yrs as a starter, he’s had a total of SEVEN(7) INT’s.
Now, compare that to what CB BGrimes did in limited time as a starter last yr alone, INT-5(6 total), TT-43(66 total), PD-10(13 total).
AFTER LOOKING AT AND COMPARING THE ABOVE STATS, I WOULD LIKE FOR YOU TO PLEASE, PLEASE TELL EVERYONE HOW, IN YOUR FANTASY, CB DONTA ROBINSON IS SUPPOSED TO BE ABLE TO DO MORE FOR US, AND/OR MORE THAN BGRIMES, THAN HE’S MANAGED TO DO FOR THE TEXANS OVER THE LAST 5YRS AS A FULLTIME STARTER?
Dwayne
March 2nd, 2010
12:07 pm
Do yall want Don Wadell for a GM??? You can have him and a 1st rounder for a bag of pucks.
Steve
March 2nd, 2010
12:08 pm
Has anyone seen much of this Jamar Chaney guy from Miss State? apparently he dominated at the combine and ran the fastest time out of the linebackers. I would love to see him, Norwood, or even Reshad Jones as a Falcon
Mave2124
March 2nd, 2010
12:09 pm
“fiscally responsible” huh….if the AJC’s sports coverage is run like the government, we are all in trouble, LOL…but what about the coaches that run the drills….how is that sorted out???
Stirg d'Nahsif
March 2nd, 2010
1:10 pm
Ken, is it possible that Daunte Robinson’s stats (as compared to Grimes) are misleading because opponents chose not to throw his way? Maybe his numbers were down because he covered his receivers so well and QB’s threw elsewhere. In contrast, Brent Grimes numbers were higher because QB’s picked on him…just a thought.
cutter
March 2nd, 2010
1:25 pm
Nice thought Stirg. I do believe Robinson is a better corner than Grimes maybe even Houston… not sure about character. I don’t think he gets signed by Atlanta though. Grimes was able to put together some stats at the end of the season against some young QB’s. No way is Grimes a starting corner IMO, nickle maybe.
ET.
March 2nd, 2010
1:31 pm
Last!
Falcon's Brass Are Clueless
March 2nd, 2010
1:43 pm
Thanks, Khao$! It unfortunate that the fans and media here in Atlantaa don’t expect more out of the Falcons front office. I only thought it was myth than the fans/media here were clueless, yet we contiue to believe that TD can make magic out of 2nd rate players in the nfl.
Its one thing to have done it before and have a resume to boot, but TD has never had a successful drafting class, so what make you think this year will be any better.
I still contend that TD is way in over his head at GM
Stirg d'Nahsif
March 2nd, 2010
1:44 pm
I agree, cutter. Grimes is the epitome of a nickel back. With our defensive scheme (zone), man to man coverage (shutdown) is not vital to our defense. Zone coverage is codependent on an acute and effective pass rush. Grimes’ numbers went up at the end of the season because he “bought in” the Falcons’ zone technique. In contrast, I don’t think shut down corners would excel in our scheme. It may be effective to the team but his stats/numbers would descend. Why? Because he would be playing man as opposed to zone.
I wouldn’t completely disregard a signing of Daunte Robinson. Although I’m not familiar with his off-the-field character, I know that he is an experienced veteran on the field. In case some you haven’t noticed. we have an extremely youthful defensive backfield. Adding a veteran back there, would be most beneficial. Furthermore, I haven’t detected a starting (effective) cornerback at the combine. Corner prospects that I would consider to start for us: Joe Haden, Kyle Wilson, Patrick Robinson and my man (the sleeper) A.O.A.
Magic Man
March 2nd, 2010
2:13 pm
If we aren’t looking for a DE in the 1st round and are looking to fill the needs at CB or OLB in that round, then we may get screwed. No 4-3 OLBs are valued in that spot except maybe Weatherspoon, who I still don’t understand how Missouri had such a horrible defense with Moore, Ziggy, and Spoon. Any CB bsides Haden is a reach at 19. Our best value would be to draft a RT at 19, either Trent Williams or Bulaga to replace Claybo.
Then, address OLB and CB later. It sure would be nice to have a second round pick.
Ken Strickland
March 2nd, 2010
3:04 pm
STIRG/CUTTER-It’s an interesting thought, but it’s not applicable in this situation for 2 reasons.
(1) There’s no way your explanation can hold up when you consider BGrimes exceeded DRobinsons overall production in fewer than half as many starts. Besides, I doubt if teams avoided throwing at BGrimes because they were afraid of rookie CB COwens, who had even fewer starts than BGrimes.
(2)If you’ll reread my post you’ll see DRobinson hasn’t measured up to what BGrimes did last yr in limited time as a starter in any of his last FIVE(5)yrs as a fulltime starter.
The real reason Houston is releasing DRobinson is the performance of 2nd yr CB Glover Quin(6′ 205lbs), who’s bigger, stronger, younger, better and about 10-12M dollars cheaper. If fact, according to the stats, DRobinson had more passes thrown his way, especially after Quin started stepping up. In 15gms as a starter he had TT-68, INT-0 AND PD-10.
Besides, if DRobinson was so good that teams wouldn’t throw his way, how do you explain him not getting any Probowl consideration over the last 5yrs, not even as an alternate? The fact a fan doesn’t want to consider a particular player good enough to be an effective starter doesn’t mean that particular player can’t be a good starter.
I remember when the entire Tampa Bay franchise, as well as most of their fans, didn’t consider their backup QB good enough to be a starter either. They said he was nothing more than a running QB with a strong arm, but he couldn’t pass, didn’t have any touch and couldn’t read DEF’s effectively. They ended up trading him to the 49ers, where ended his career. I think old Steve Young ended up proving them all wrong by winning a few SB’s and will certainly end up being a 1st ballot HOF QB. OFTEN, WHAT ONE THINKS ABOUT ANOTHER HAS LITTLE TO DO WITH REALITY.
I MUS WRITE
March 2nd, 2010
3:33 pm
Grimes is okay as he had good numbers late last year,i just think he isnt stong enuff to cover guys like Marshall,Colston,Bryant to many times i saw the man shook to the dirt while the receiver sprints dwn field. CB-sing a valuable free agent and then draft one. Carlos Rodgers possibly and draft Wilso or the long kid from UVA Cook….
Joe haden had a rock in his shoe -thats y the slow 40 time.i hope he slides to number 19. The tapes dont lie.
I hate our zone coverage scheme,good QB’s are licking their chops to pick us apart.
I MUS WRITE
March 2nd, 2010
3:34 pm
i should probly proof read lol
I MUS WRITE
March 2nd, 2010
3:39 pm
Grover Quinn yeah i remember that guy -he played well at new mexico State -i just saw the blend of height and speed plus good coverage skills- I wanted him instead of Milton last year -o well cant win’em all
JJ
March 2nd, 2010
3:40 pm
The falcons grdaded an A, top 5 in the 08 draft and our top 2 picks in 09 were injured, so thats an incomplete until we see them play. For someone to say TD never had a successful draft class is truely clueless and probably still crying for Dorsey. He’s having a stellar career huh?
JJ
March 2nd, 2010
3:41 pm
…graded
Ken Strickland
March 2nd, 2010
3:49 pm
BIG RAY-2nd your last comment. I’ve made an issue of the fact that our lack of an effective interior pass rush has been our biggest problem. I’ve made an issue of how having a slow, nonathletic, pass rushing deficient DT like GJackson hurt our overall pass DEF more than anything else. Outside pass rushes only forces the QB to step into the pocket, plant his feet and continue doing his thing.
However, an effective interior pass rush forces the QB out of the pocket and forces him to hit a moving target while throwing on the run. It also effectively cuts the field in half and reduces his options and accuracy.
One more thing on the Donta Robinson issue. Both TD and Smitty have echoed their intent on being fiscally responsible. We know BGrimes produced more in 7gms as a starter than he produced in 16. So, why spend the additional millions it would take to sign DRobinson without considering the almost certain possiblity that Grimes will give us just as much production as Robinson if given 16 starts, and likely much more?
Bird Droppings
March 2nd, 2010
4:22 pm
Hey Ken Strickland-
Dunta and Leigh Bodden are the only two big-name FA’s on the market. If you want to continue to delude yourself into believing that Grimes should be mentioned in the same breath as these guys, then I guess I’m not the only one living in Fantasy Land. Granted, he’d cost us an arm and a leg. Granted, he’s been injury-prone and his productivity has seemingly dropped off. But hey – Dunta routinely covered the opponent’s best receiver, and while he didn’t shut them down, he held his own. Point is, we don’t need to draft a CB, which many prognosticators have indicated we will do. We don’t need to send another rookie out alongside Chris Owens. We need a veteran, shut down corner…and Dunta is the best available at the moment. Would it be fiscally responsible? Maybe not, and maybe Dimitroff has already summarily dismissed the idea, just like he did with Peppers. No doubt he’d cost us $25M, guaranteed. I just can’t fathom the thought of running Owens and Grimes out there, praying for Williams’ recovery, and watching Houston covering receivers with his back to the ball. And I sincerely doubt I’m alone in that assessment.
cutter
March 2nd, 2010
4:22 pm
I am not sold on Dunta Robinson either especially for the price he’s gonna command but I do think he would be an upgrade over Grimes. As I stated earlier Grimes was able to put together some good stats at the end of the season against young QB’s. Grimes has done well for an undrafted free agent from Shippensburg but he is not a starting corner in this league. On the basis of ability alone I doubt there is a GM in the league that would pick Grimes over Robinson.
cutter
March 2nd, 2010
4:29 pm
Heck he’s an upgrade over all of our corners. Our corners are young and the hiring of Tim Lewis as secondary coach might help these guys with their technique.
Stirg d'Nahsif
March 2nd, 2010
4:36 pm
Ken, I’m not disregarding the skills of Brent Grimes, by any means. I do think he is an exceptional athlete and very glad that he is apart of our organization. I wouldn’t go as far as to compare his plight to Steve Young, though. I just seem to think, from a team perspective, he would be most effective playing nickel back, exclusively. Still, albeit you don’t agree with DRobinson, you must admit that we need a veteran in our defensive backfield.
Again, I admire a few draftees and would suggest a couple starters (Wilson, Robinson, Haden, A.O.A.). We just can’t overlook the possibilities of a couple free agents either (Robinson, Cromartie and Brian Williams).
Stirg d'Nahsif
March 2nd, 2010
4:43 pm
What’s going on, JJ?
JJ
March 2nd, 2010
5:01 pm
SSDD Stirg! Having Detroit weather down here again.
Clyde
March 2nd, 2010
5:07 pm
Terrance Cody!!!!!!!
D. Orlando Ledbetter
March 2nd, 2010
5:57 pm
Hello folks!!!
Got my laptop backup from the IT Crew.
Understand my man OJ got BANNED for being disrespectful
Got some good news for you all. “WE” — this is our blog, not mind’s — were selected as the No. 1 blog in the NFC South. http://www.forensicsciencetechnician.org/?page_id=129
“We’re No. 1!!!! We’re No. 1″
Keep up the great comments coming.
I’ll go back through and catch up to the questions and we’ll have a new blog ready to go in the morning.
–DOL
JJ
March 2nd, 2010
6:33 pm
DOL, congrats! Your blog and D3s are the best! Simple question, our man spoon is moving up the charts and pitt at 18 are looking at him. If spoon is gone, then who? Some say Mays (who may want to stay as a safety) but I think he’ll be gone as well, same as kindle. Knew the ban for OJ was coming, unfortunately kids and idiots do get on this blog. Hope you didn’t take it too bad, most falcon fans are respectfull. Last thing, why didnt peterson play strong and nicholas WLB?
D. Orlando Ledbetter
March 2nd, 2010
6:41 pm
Just looked you are were arguing the merits of the free agent cornerbacks.
Falcons89 — Here’s the Pro Football Weekly 2010 Draft Guide downside on Decker: “Lacks elite speed and does not show burst at the top of his stems. Can do a better job working back to the ball. Does not have especially strong hands — fails to hang on to some balls he should secure. Does not show urgency as a blocker and lacks strength to sustain. Is coming off a serious Lisfranc injury.”
Steve: Jamar Chaney is having a good combine. I spoke to Dan Mullen about him at the Senior Bowl and he had some nice things to say about Chaney.
Mave2124: Why the hate?
Ken Strickland
March 2nd, 2010
7:02 pm
I MUS WRITE-How can you determine BGrimes @ 5′10″ 181lbs isn’t strong enough to cover certain WR’s when DRobinson @ 5′10″ 184lbs is the same height and only 3lbs heavier? With the bias attitude some use to value CB’s, we might as well go back and remove all of the Probowl and HOF CB’s that are under 5′11″-6′ and weigh less than 190lbs.
Poor Darrell Greene, how in the hell did he manage to play so well to age 40? He also managed to be a 1st ballot HOF selection, and his HOF measurements are 5′9″ 184lbs. I GUESS HE JUST MANAGED TO SPEND 20YRS TRICKING PEOPLE INTO THINKING HE WAS STRONG ENOUGH TO PLAY THE BIGGER STRONGER WR’S. Players that are simular in height and weight to BGrimes, like AWingate(5′9″ 180lbs), RBarber(5′10″ 184lbs and ASamuel(5′10″ 185lbs)have had no problems making Probowls while playing some of the same WR’s you claim BGrimes isn’t strong enough to play.
Remember how everyone was upset and thought it was a big mistake when we didn’t resign former Falcon CB DFoxworth? Well, at 5′ 11″ 180lbs to Grimes 5′10″ 181lbs, wouldn’t he have also lacked the size and strength to play those WR’s you mentioned. WE NEED TO STOP USING PERSONAL BIAS’ TO TRY AND AND DEMINISH THE ABILITIES AND/OR CAPABILITIES OF CERTAIN PLAYERS. HOW CAN YOU SAY BGRIMES ISN’T STRONG ENOUGH TO DEFEND THE WR’S YOU MENTIONED, WHILE AT THE SAME TIME OFFER NO OPPOSITION TO ACQUIRING LESS PRODUCTIVE PLAYERS OF SIMULAR OR EVEN SMALLER STATURE?
falcon21
March 2nd, 2010
7:45 pm
At this point Grimes is no where near in the same class as Greene. Ken most us go to the Branch, Dome and watch on TV, our opinions are based on what we see. Grimes gets beat regularly, if it is not height then it has to be poor coverage skills. My question to you is do you think Grimes will ever be in a pro bowl and do you not think we can do better than Grimes? If Williams comes back healthy do you think Grimes will still be a starter? No disrespect intended, I respect your opinions.
Section 108
March 3rd, 2010
12:30 pm
Anybody who thinks CB should NOT be our 1st priority should go rewatch the Giants away game from last year
Dirty Byrd
March 3rd, 2010
5:00 pm
I would like to see us pick up earl thomas he would be nice to have for the next year and this as well for the roster spot and his potential is limitless but a DT would be a good move for insurrance and the SPOON in the 1st round.
Dirty Byrd
March 3rd, 2010
5:24 pm
New to blog but falcons fan for years i would love to see us take spoon or spikes if there available by some miracle and get some help at corner back threw FA or draft any thoughts on the DT Mount Cody for the 1st pick if either LB is not there ? to u DOL.
Dirty Byrd
March 3rd, 2010
5:37 pm
To have Cody and Jerry in the middle would cause an O-line to cave in leaving the DE’s all alone for the QB’s head that would be a nice sight to see and get a Vet CB for now with addition to OLB picks we could start some trouble for any squad this yr. Granted all is healthy.
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