Saints want to know if the Sky is falling

THE BRANCHBradley Handwerger, a webwriter  at WWL in New Orleans, asked me 5 questions about the Falcons.

1.)    WWL: Since these teams played on Nov. 2, Atlanta is 2-3. What has happened to the Falcons, who started out 4-3?

The scene outside the Georgia Dome before the Washington game. (D. Orlando Ledbetter)

The scene outside the Georgia Dome before the Washington game. (D. Orlando Ledbetter)

Ledbetter: The league’s schedule maker was not very kind to the Falcons. They had to play four teams – San Francisco, Dallas, Washington and the New York Giants – who were coming off byes. While they went 2-2 against those teams they were taking those teams best and rested shots. You wondered if injuries would start to mount. They have and that’s certainly been a factor It was very evident in the Philadelphia game when five starters on offense didn’t play including Matt Ryan and Michael Turner.

2.) WWL: Chris Redman got pummeled in his first game as a starter. Should he start in place of Matt Ryan, who has an injured toe, do you expect a better performance from him?

Ledbetter: Yes. Redman was excellent in relief of Ryan against Tampa Bay. The Falcons played most of the Philadelphia game with three starters along the line – LT Sam Baker, C Todd McClure and RG Harvey Dahl – on the sidelines. McClure went down with a knee in the game and Baker and Dahl were

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inactive. The backups had a tough time with the Eagles’ blitzes and Redman was doing good just to hold up under the relentless pressure. He can function with better protection and a run game.

3.) WWL: When these teams last met, Michael Turner exploded for 151 yards. He’s banged up right now. Do the Falcons have anyone who can burn the Saints on the ground this time?

Ledbetter: It doesn’t appear so. Jerious Norwood has explosive play ability and Jason Snelling is a hard runner.

Saints linebacker Jonathan Vilma in action (Rusty Costanza/The Times-Picayune)

Saints linebacker Jonathan Vilma in action (Rusty Costanza/The Times-Picayune)

Norwood is not 100 percent recovered from a hip flexor injury that caused him to miss five games.

4.) WWL: Coach Mike Smith said the Falcons are now in the “Wild Card Division” after the Saints clinched the NFC South this past weekend. What will be the biggest hindrance to the Falcons getting one of the two Wild Card spots?

Ledbetter: If they lose to the Saints they will practically be eliminated. It doesn’t look like 9-7 is going to make it in 2009. But in the alternative the fans will root just as hard for a 9-7 finish. That would give the franchise its first consecutive winning seasons. There would be a major party down Peachtree Street!

5.) WWL: Are the Falcons falling apart?

Ledbetter: Don’t sense that. They are loose and Tony Gonzalez seems to thinks that’s a good think. We’ve seen some recent Falcons teams start fast and then fade. One could sense the impending doom in Jim Mora’s 8-8 and 7-9 seasons. This team is much younger and you don’t get that sense that they’ll stop fighting. “Guys, the sky is not fall,” Smith said on Monday.

(That’ was it. Hope I didn’t come off as homer for the Falcons.  Tried to just throw out some facts. Tampa Bay coach Raheem Morris called me out for asking about his defensive play calling tendencies, which he’d made a newsworthy issue by firing his DC before the game.)

VILMA ON GONALEZ:  Saints linebacker Jonthan Vilma has been providing mini scouting reports each week on his PlayMaker Mobile page. Wednesday  he wrote about facing the Falcons and tight end Tony Gonzalez.

Here’s the link to Vilma’s take on Sunday’s game.

Give your answers to the WWL questions. What do you think about Vilma’s take on the game?

111 comments Add your comment

Wilbur

December 10th, 2009
7:39 am

D. Orlando Ledbetter

December 10th, 2009
8:07 am

Congratulations Wilbur!

humble(1)

December 10th, 2009
8:13 am

Not a homer at all. The questions were very valid due to the level of distress the team is in right now. It’s going to be a tough few games coming up, we can only hope that we can get healthy this week and finish strong against the Jets, Bills and Bucs. If so we can get to 9-7 and have that monkey off of our back.

Irv

December 10th, 2009
8:13 am

I am hearing Musgrave will become Virginia’s next OC for new coach Mike London, any truth?

TMoney

December 10th, 2009
8:26 am

1.) Since starting 4-3, the Falcons have played at the Saints, home versus the Redskins, at the Panthers, at the Giants, home versus the Buccaneers, and home versus the Eagles. Two of those teams, the Giants and the Redskins, were coming off byes. Also, the injuries have begun to mount, evident last week against the Eagle when the Falcons played much of the game minus 6 starters on offense (Ryan, Turner, Jenkins, Baker, Dahl, and McClure) and 3 defensive starters (Jerry, Moore, and Williams).

2.) Redman had a very bad game, but against the Saints this week, it would probably be better to let him start than Ryan. You don’t want to rush Ryan back and risk reaggravating the turf toe injury. What will help Redman is if the Falcons can get their offensive line back for this game. Having more than 2 seconds in the pocket will be the biggest helping hand Redman can have.

3.) The Falcons have a couple of good running backs in Norwood and Snelling, but neither is Michael Turner. Norwood is more of a Reggie Bush type, while Snelling is a type of bruiser. With some good O-Line play and the help of Ovie Mghelli blocking, the two could combine for a big day.

4.) The Falcons right now hold no tie breakers against any of the teams ahead of them. The Falcons could win out and still miss the playoffs with a 10-6 record. They need some help from those other teams in front of them losing some games.

5.) I don’t think so, look at the Saints last year, they were also decimated by injuries and have come back to start this season 12-0. You can’t go injury free every year, you just have to keep fighting through and do the best you can with what you’ve got. If there’s one thing I don’t expect this team to do, it’s fall apart, roll over, and play dead.

BIGBEN42

December 10th, 2009
8:35 am

Let’s hope we can at lease finish 9-7. With all the injuries this will be adequate. Will be better next year.

FoxNoise.net

December 10th, 2009
8:43 am

The Falcons are falling apart, we can’t deny the results – going from 4-1 to 6-6. But it’s somewhat palatable because it’s not from a lack of effort or poor coaching. I’m enthusiastic about their future because players will get past the injuries, we’ll have a good draft next year and a better schedule.

MississippiFalconFan

December 10th, 2009
8:53 am

TMoney,
On #1 I believe you forgot a player. H Douglas. I believe we would have seen a much more explosive offense this season if he had not gotten hurt. Just think how fast this offense could have drove down a field with TG, HD, RW and Turner pounding style of running. Not many defenses would have been able to stop us.

But with the loss of HD you can see the real problem we have with him getting hurt. That problem is true depth. They could not replace him. The injuries along the OL is a big problem all by itself. The Falcons can plug 1 player in and stil move the ball (like when Baker went down) but 3 is nearly impossible. Especially the center who touches the ball EVERY play.

SHOTYME

December 10th, 2009
8:55 am

If Redman starts, the Falcons loose.I would rather see Shockley or even Parker-Wilson than Redman. The only positive is that we are playing at home, but with those fairweather, stab your own team in the back so called fans, I wouldnt be supprised if they started cheering for the Drew Brees and give the Saints homefield advantage.

FalconUGAFan

December 10th, 2009
8:55 am

Good questions..and good answers. His questions tell me that they still respect the Falcon’s as a team. Good to hear. Refreshing to hear that the team is still loose and positive. Go Falcons!

TMoney

December 10th, 2009
9:06 am

MississippiFalconFan

December 10th, 2009
8:53 am

TMoney,
On #1 I believe you forgot a player. H Douglas. I believe we would have seen a much more explosive offense this season if he had not gotten hurt. Just think how fast this offense could have drove down a field with TG, HD, RW and Turner pounding style of running. Not many defenses would have been able to stop us.

How could I forget Harry? I’ve been wondering since the Dallas game just how much not having him around was hurting the Falcons. I agree, he was our real down field threat, he opened up space for Roddy last season in ways Weems just can’t. Last season, he may have only had 23 catches for 320 yards, but it was the fact that teams knew he could go deep on any play that made him so dangerous. This season, our #3 receiver has been Booker, he has 8 catches for 93 yards. Both Snelling and Norwood have more catches, and you can’t have that out of your #3.

Gamer

December 10th, 2009
9:43 am

Why are the Falcons coaches still contemplating playing Ryan? That should be a dead end decision. DON’T DO IT!!!!

STOP BEATING A DEAD HORSE!!! LET RYAN AND TURNER HEAL UNTIL NEXT SEASON!!!

THE FALCONS AREN’T GOING ANYWHERE THIS YEAR!!!! GET OVER IT!!!

GET READY TO MAKE MAJOR OFF-SEASON TRANSACTIONS!!

SeenThisB4

December 10th, 2009
9:48 am

Geaux Saints Geaux! Geaux Saints Geaux! Geaux Saints Geaux!

Samuel

December 10th, 2009
9:57 am

If they can play better than they did last week and pull off the upset, it would take a miracle….

Sal

December 10th, 2009
10:06 am

Mr, Ledbetter,

I like your work! Thanks.

I will not comment that your name – of which you have no control -
suggests that your knowledge has “led” us toward the “better.”
For knowledge is self improvement, so says Aristotle, among others.

How do you see this game ending? I’m thinking Saints in an 11 point scrap. Let’s say, 31-20.

Falcons Hero Zero

December 10th, 2009
10:10 am

“Find a taker for John Abraham – we may not have a 2nd round pick next year, but maybe we can get another 3rd round pick for him”

Abraham is the least of The Falcons problems. People who do not understand football expect him to have 20 sacks with no real help on the defensive line. Abraham is the only name they know because the other players are not known for making big plays. Like a child, they become frustrated with the one player who actually does something out there. These people do not understand football. If The Falcons rid themselves of Abraham even for (2 downs), they will become much worse. They kept some of the same players who could not take advantage of playing next to him!

The Falcons trusted “cheap youth” too much, and resigned players that he probably should not have…

They could have used that money and 2nd round pick on Richard Seymour at the other LDE spot and some DT on 3rd downs. Seymour + Abraham at the DE spots would have The Falcons past the middle of the pack defensively (Above).. I think they assumed that they could take the mindset of The Patriots (who are quietly missing Seymour). If you are The Falcons, you needed Seymour.. 2-3 Seasons of Seymour at 29, 30, and 31, at $7-9 Million is worth more that The current Falcons that they re-signed this off-season + Tony Gonzalez.

When I saw those moves (or non-moves) by The Falcons earlier this year, I knew that this defense needed a miracle season from one of its disappointing youngsters, or that Jerry needed to be Warren Sapp.

Apparently, The saw this schedule, and made the decision that Ryan more “weapons”.

Veterans like Seymour have a name for a reason. They make plays. The Falcons could not afford to treat veterans play-makers like old cattle. They need any big-named playmakers on defense that they can find.

Trading Abraham is a knee-jerk reaction, that is only going to add to another losing season. He is the one player on that D-Line who will still be starting in The NFL 3 seasons from now..

Beirman and Sidbury aren’t ready, and seemed to be oversized OLBs right now. It’s going to take both of them 2-3 seasons to mature to even play 3 downs. When the other D-Linemen only sack the QB after Abraham has flushed them from the pocket.

If you are a talent evaluator and a true coach, you have to understand who really benefited from the easy schedule and the smoke & mirrors of 2008.

LongSufferingFalconsFan

December 10th, 2009
10:16 am

The Saints wouldn’t be undefeated if they had the exact same schedule as the Falcons. Why isn’t the Saints extremely soft, and favorable, schedule a story anywhere? All of their tough games have been at home. I don’t see one single road test, outside of the Philly game early in the year, on their schedule. I doubt they played 4 teams coming off of the bye too.

Falcons played Dalls, NYG, and NE on the road. Two of those teams were coming off of the bye. The Saints play(ed) Dalls, NYG, and NE at home, and as far as I know (unless NE was) none of those teams were coming off the bye.

Am I making excuses? Probably. Was the Falcons schedule completely insane this year? Yes. Would we be undefeated with the Saints exact schedule? Definitely not since we are not an Elite team.

I do 100% believe that the Saints are undefeated in part due to a favorable schedule. They are an elite team for sure, but they would not be 12-0 right now with our exact schedule.

NOLA

December 10th, 2009
10:22 am

Who dat gonna beat ‘em Saints? Definitely not the ‘Cons. Listen to the losers griping about the schedule.

Typical ‘Con losers. It’s never their lousy organization. Forty years of futility and you have the audacity to blame someone else other than your lousy organization and the team.

Who dat? Who dat? I said Who dat gonna beat ‘ em Saints?

Definitely not the ‘Cons this weekend. :) :)

Falcons Hero Zero

December 10th, 2009
10:35 am

There is virtually nothing if Free Agency to help The Falcons..Now, they are reliant upon The Draft.. Which is what they wanted.

It seems like it will be “slim-pickings” where the Falcons will be possibly selecting players in The 2010 NFL Draft..(14-19)

Smith’s defensive scheme is a 2-Deep Zone that does not warrant drafting shut-down CBs high, or signing Top 5 CBs in Free Agency.

In their scheme it has been said that their CBs will “Play like Safeties”, and “Their Safeties play like CBs”..

So, I do not CB in the 1st round. Even if they did select one, it’s too much to expect a rookie to help this secondary in his first season.

Unless SS Moore and DeCoud knock-out opposing WRs over the middle, the zone and combo coverages will be totally reliant upon the Falcons D-Line.

It’s safe to assume that they will be much turn-over on this D-Line.

They will have to sign one of the top free agent CBs (and “over-pay”.. Something that they hoped to avoid).

Ga. Tech’s DE, Morgan – probably won’t be there. He would be the best available near the middle of the 1st round, and it’s just a coincidence that he plays for a local squad.

They cannot select a OLB because they need pass-rush form a 4-3 front. A 1st round OLB may improve their intermediate pass-coverage, but not their pass-rush.

Any OT in their first must be able to play both OT spots… I don’t see that there.

I presume that The Falcons will select a D-Lineman with their 1st Round pick, and a Free Agent CB Starter to provide stability (at least).

TMoney

December 10th, 2009
10:37 am

LongSufferingFalconsFan

December 10th, 2009
10:16 am

The Saints wouldn’t be undefeated if they had the exact same schedule as the Falcons. Why isn’t the Saints extremely soft, and favorable, schedule a story anywhere? All of their tough games have been at home. I don’t see one single road test, outside of the Philly game early in the year, on their schedule. I doubt they played 4 teams coming off of the bye too.

Falcons played Dalls, NYG, and NE on the road. Two of those teams were coming off of the bye. The Saints play(ed) Dalls, NYG, and NE at home, and as far as I know (unless NE was) none of those teams were coming off the bye.

Am I making excuses? Probably. Was the Falcons schedule completely insane this year? Yes. Would we be undefeated with the Saints exact schedule? Definitely not since we are not an Elite team.

I do 100% believe that the Saints are undefeated in part due to a favorable schedule. They are an elite team for sure, but they would not be 12-0 right now with our exact schedule.
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The Saints have played 2 teams coming off byes, Miami and St. Louis, both road games and both game closer than expected. Having toughest games at home have definitely been helpful, and getting to host the Giants and come off a bye at the same time was in their favor as well.

One thing I’ve seen about the Falcons is that they haven’t beat a team with a winning a record. The Saints have beat 3, an Eagles team minus McNabb, the Giants at home while the Saints were coming off a bye, and the Patriots at home. Of all these “tests”, I really think the Patriots are the only ones that could be seen as legit, but the Patriots are not the same team they used to be.

I can’t really say much about any teams schedule this year, there are so few “elite” teams this season. The Saints and Colts for sure, and then probably the Vikings. The Bengals and Chargers are both making a push as well, but none of these teams has really been tested. Maybe the Bengals, beating both the Steelers and Ravens twice, but those are 2 .500 ball clubs, plus the Bengals lost to the Ravens. I’m beginning to think the playoffs will be very interesting this season, as it will be the first time any of these teams will really have tough games.

Dandy D

December 10th, 2009
10:40 am

1. What’s happened to the Falcons…?
Injuries for one, but you can’t blame it entirely on injuries. They were still pretty healthy when the wheels started falling off the wagon in New England. The defense has been in a rebuilding year, and coupled with key defensive injuries, the unit has been torched for most of the year. The Falcons really miss what Peria Jerry would have become by now, and they miss Brian Williams’ ability to shore up the CB corps.

2.Redman v. Ryan:
Redman should start if Ryan’s not 100% healthy. Redman has proven he can play in this league. The Eagles didn’t blow his doors off. They blew the team’s doors off largely because of a decimated o-line.

3.Can the Falcons run without Turner?
If the defense helps out by getting the opposing team’s offense off the field. Snelling is a good,serviceable back if they can get into their run-game offense AND if the o-line doesn’t resemble a train wreck. Norwood, on the other hand, is still hurting. He gets hurt a lot. Call me crazy but I kinda like Dexter Mcluster (sp?) in the draft (if he’s coming out) to take his place. I’m just sayin’…

4. Wild Card hindrance?
Simple. Injuries and lack of quality defensive players.

5.Are the Falcons falling apart?
No. No matter how you slice it, this was always a rebuilding year set in the grand scheme of things. Remember how, at the beginning ofthis season, everyone ackowledged that last year was a gift; that we all knew the defense needed to be overhauled; that we knew the schedule makers had unwittingly given the Falcons the shaft; that we would be happy with 9-7? Nothing much has changed. They’re still in the build-up mode…not the break-down mode.

Falcons Hero Zero

December 10th, 2009
10:45 am

Saints, are basically Falcons even though they have been slightly better over the last few seasons.

I’d pick them, but finesse passing teams do well in The Playoffs and Superbowls.

It seems to me that Pass-interference is not called much in The NFL Playoffs..

I’ve seen Dan Reeves Falcons defeat The 1998 Vikings, and The Patriots defeat The Rams in 2002. The Bucs defeat The Eagles in 2003.. The Giants beat The Patriots, and The Steelers defeat The Cardinals last season.

Vikings secondary is their weakness, but I doubt that The Saints can stop a physical offense like Minnesota’s even in The Superdome. It’s too much to stop Peterson and Favre (+ their 3 WRs who are young, fast, and actually get-open, and can catch passes).

TMoney

December 10th, 2009
10:47 am

I will say that at this point, I had the Falcons at 7-5. The only game I was wrong about was the Dallas game. Obviously, when I made my predictions I didn’t take injuries or an undefeated Saints team into account, but I did have the Falcons winning this week. If I could take what I know now to when I made my predictions, I would have taken the Saints, there is no doubt in my mind. I still think 9-7 is very possible, but we’ll need to get healthy enough to beat the Jets, Bills, and Bucs to do it.

Falcons Hero Zero

December 10th, 2009
10:47 am

Correction:

I’d pick them, but finesse passing teams (do not fare well) in The Playoffs and Superbowls.

It seems to me that Pass-interference is not called much in The NFL Playoffs..

I’ve seen Dan Reeves Falcons defeat The 1998 Vikings, and The Patriots defeat The Rams in 2002. The Bucs defeat The Eagles in 2003.. The Giants beat The Patriots, and The Steelers defeat The Cardinals last season.

Vikings secondary is their weakness, but I doubt that The Saints can stop a physical offense like Minnesota’s even in The Superdome. It’s too much to stop Peterson and Favre (+ their 3 WRs who are young, fast, and actually get-open, and can catch passes).

sfsdzgfdsg

December 10th, 2009
10:49 am

boooooooooooooop!

Cal

December 10th, 2009
11:17 am

Please Please Please……from a fan to the falcon organization. You have to address the issue at hand in order to be successful. 1) Let the OC go, I’m sure Mr Mularkey is a great guy, but his style dose not fit our personnel. (and you know this) He would be a perfect fit if he went back to the Steelers.
2) I get building through the draft, but because we dropped the ball on the secondary this year its no way we will be able to enhance the secondary through the draft. (I wrote before pre season we should’ve picked up D. Sharper). Our corners are terrible, and that’s being nice. Release or trade all of them except Owens. We have to bring in some free agents. (yes it’s going to cost). To even go 500. next year. (You can not win in this league without a decent Defense, and we don’t have one.
3) The draft was terrible because we drafted player that we knew were injury prone at the college level.
4) Put together a trade package with numbers and get back a second round pick. We have to give up numbers because there is no one that we can’t use worth a second round pick.
5) I know after the Vick foolishness the team money and cap room is affected, but due the right thing in the off season.
6) I’ve almost came to terms that we want make the playoffs, but lets be honest a winning season is almost out the door.
7) Mike Smith, we are not a smash mouth team. That’s not even the tone of the city! You’re looking more and more like Jim Mora.
8) Thomas they want say it, but i will. Even NE has went out and brought people in to tighten up there D. A young and old mix, of players is needed at this point. (This draft was not on point) Now without a second round pick in 2010, its going to be very tuff this time around.
9) Please trade Norwood for a pick… he can’t run between the tackles and Mularkey dosen’t know how to use him. What ever the game plan is going in is what they stick with. (so predictable)
10) Final words: No more CB under 5′ 11, they really need to be 6 FT and up…….

MV#777

December 10th, 2009
11:25 am

All during the week of practice, Andy Reid told Vick he would score two touchdowns against his former team in this emotional cauldron.

Vick played along. Why not? That would be fine with him.

“We’re always saying things about what we’re going to do and stuff,” said Vick, who didn’t have to add that much of the time those things don’t happen.

Everything happened yesterday, though. The crowd greeted him with a mixture of cheers and boos, even when he scored a touchdown on a quarterback draw on the first drive of the third quarter.

But as the game got out of hand, heading toward a 34-7 blowout win for the Eagles, the most rabid of Atlanta fans exited the building, leaving behind only Eagles fans and locals nostalgic for better days. That’s when the chant began.

“We want Vick. We want Vick.”

Even Reid, usually more phlegmatic than dramatic, couldn’t ignore the moment and Donovan McNabb came off the field after the first play of the Eagles’ first fourth-quarter drive. Vick came on and, as if he had written the script himself, drove the team to a touchdown, finishing it off with a pass to Brent Celek on a misdirection play.

“When I heard the chants, it made chills go down my spine. It let me know that people here do appreciate what I’ve done and what I’m able to do moving forward,” Vick said.

It was the first time Vick ran for a touchdown and threw for a touchdown in the same regular season game since September 2006. The cheers from that day in the Georgia Dome faded away long ago, replaced by the crashing sound that accompanied Vick’s long fall from grace.

“Everyone deserves a second chance, no matter what happens,” McNabb said, “and I think he’s relishing the moment right now.”

The Eagles are relishing their own moment, too. They have won three straight games and are positioned for a decent run in the playoffs. The offense has kept going despite the loss of Brian Westbrook and the jumbled nature of the offensive line.

As the games grow more important, it will be interesting to find out if Vick will be a regular contributor now, and not just the strange cameo player he has been. It could be that Reid planned to give Vick his day in Atlanta, maybe in reparation for his scant use elsewhere, or it could be that some invisible corner has been turned.

“We’ve got things in” the offense for Vick, Reid said. “It’s easier when you’ve got a little flow going in the offense. There’s not a set number of plays. We see how things go with a game. If we feel it’s the right time, we put him in there.”

This has been a strange trip for Vick, from Falcon to jailbird to Eagle. Anyone would be changed by it, although neither the most ardent supporter nor the most cynical critic can know for sure if Vick’s words now are sincere or contrived.

“I want this to be an inspiring story for a lot of kids – that things may happen, but you have to persevere, have to overcome adversity and continue to make strides day in, day out, week in, week out, year to year,” Vick said. “If you keep pressing forward, good things happen to you, but you have to believe in yourself. I’ve been waiting for this for a long time.”

Well, that much we know is true. It has been a long time. Atlanta team owner Arthur Blank walked to the middle of the field during warm-ups yesterday for a very public embrace of Vick. Just over two years ago, Blank told the public that Vick lied to him and instructed the team’s lawyers to sue Vick in an attempt to recover almost $20 million in salary.

All of that seemed forgotten yesterday, and a cheering football stadium is a long way from solitary confinement. Vick’s time in Leavenworth was only the first stage of his purgatory. The second stage is this season, as he has endured the publicity that came with his return, and as he has waited for something good to happen on a football field.

He got all of that yesterday in a scenario made for him. A return to Atlanta, against a banged-up football team incapable of staying close. An opportunity for Reid and offensive coordinator Marty Mornhinweg to make all the bother seem worthwhile.

“I’m proud of Mike. He’s had one coming to him,” Mornhinweg said.

Maybe so, maybe not. That view depends on the viewer. To some, his sins are forgiven. To some, his sins are unforgivable.

“Who cares about what happened in the past?” Vick said.

He was talking about the games earlier this season when he didn’t do much, but it is a question that covers a lot of ground for Vick. Does what happened in the past still matter for Michael Vick?

The real answer to that is for the future to decide. But this much is certainly true: It didn’t matter yesterday in Atlanta. Not even a little bit.

TheManMike

December 10th, 2009
11:33 am

“Who Dat” is the lamest nick name a team could ever have. They are surely and elite team, but that “Who Dat” stuff is just gay. You would think a city with a killer team like that could come up with something better….just sad.

Sal

December 10th, 2009
11:57 am

How about, “Who is that?”
Is that better, TheManMike?
We assume we are a man by your name, Mike.
Now, who’s name is silly?

Sal

December 10th, 2009
11:58 am

I’m silly: grammer issues all over the joint.
Let me rephrase:
How about, “Who is that?”
Is that better, TheManMike?
We assume you are a man by your name, Mike.
Now, whose name is silly?

TheManMike

December 10th, 2009
12:29 pm

Umm…What? I think “Who Dat” is rather self explanatory, Didn’t really need a break down of what it meant. You breaking it down makes it no less gay. In fact, I think you just raised it’s level of gay. I’m sure the City of New Orleans thanks you for your awesome post. I know I do.

TheManMike

December 10th, 2009
12:32 pm

…and yes, I am a man. Nice catch… You MUST be a Saints fan….

ELVISINTHEHOUSE.

December 10th, 2009
12:33 pm

Why is everyone trying to make excuses for the falcons? First it was the schedule screaming its tough,well last i checked the turdy birds play in the NFL too.Just because you play a good team should’nt be an excuse, thats what NFL teams do play each other.Teams coming off byes so what,these guys get paid millions for what they do on a average but people try and find excuses for the loses.I got an excuse for yall,THE FALCONS ARE SORRY!!!!!!! 1966 AND STILL ROLLING.

Sal

December 10th, 2009
12:42 pm

TheManMike = high school drop out.

Do you have something of substance to say, clown? Of course I’m a Saints fan. Given the “We want Mike” chanting in the Georgia Dome last week, it occurs to me there aren’t any Falcons fans left, you dim tool.

Col. Parker

December 10th, 2009
12:44 pm

Elvis is dead…

TheManMike

December 10th, 2009
12:52 pm

ELVIS:

I wouldn’t exactly say the Falcons are sorry. Strength of schedule is a rather important factor in the NFL these days – if it weren’t then Strength of Schedule would not play a role in playoff rankings and Wild Card spots. There is certainly something to be said about a team with a “soft” schedule compared to a team with a “tough” schedule – and everything, including Byes play a role. Hey, Facts speak for themselves. I am not one to make excuses for the Birds though, There were a few games that came down to our guys just not getting it done on the field. We definitely need a recharge in the secondary next season – as well as D Coaching. If we can’t get our CB’s to turn their damn heads around to look for the ball, that eventually boils down to bad coaching.

The only real excuse these days, that no one can deny truly matters on any level is the impact of an injury. Not many teams in the NFL today could survive a game, even against the Lions, with 5 major offensive starters out – 1 or 2 injuries shouldn’t be too bad if coaching is sound, but 5 on one side of the ball? Even the “Holy” Saints would flail without Brees, Thomas etc… How you think the Colts would fair with Manning, Addai, Saturday etc all sidelined?

TheManMike

December 10th, 2009
12:53 pm

Sal:

Not even going to honor with a response – I refer all back to your awesome 11:57am and 11:58am posts.

Sal

December 10th, 2009
12:59 pm

TheManMike:

Sorry to raise the temperature, but you did not have to call our city or our chant or me “gay.” Seems to me that was not very honorable on your part, bordering on hate speech. We’ve had the WHO DAT chant since 1983. Let us be with it. It’s our goofy little thing.

Now, if you want to insult our run defense, feel free….

Have a good game on Sunday.

S

Matt "Choke" Ryan

December 10th, 2009
1:00 pm

From 2003 to 2009, the team that finished in last place in the division the previous year went on to win the division the following season:[1]

Carolina finished last in 2002, and first in 2003
Atlanta finished last in 2003, and first in 2004
Tampa Bay finished last in 2004, and first in 2005
New Orleans finished last in 2005, and first in 2006
Tampa Bay finished last in 2006, first in 2007
New Orleans finished last in 2008, first in 2009
In the final week of the 2008 regular season, a last-second field goal led Carolina (12-4) to victory over the Saints and an NFL South title. The win prevented Atlanta at 11-5 (who had finished last in 2007), from continuing the “last-to-first” streak

“That says it all”

CAMDEN SAINT

December 10th, 2009
1:18 pm

RECORDS DOESN’T MATTER WHEN IT COMES TO THESE TWO TEAMS PLAYING EACH OTHER.
THE SAINTS HAVE BEEN UP AND HAVE BEEN DOWN MOSTLY DOWN.
WE HAVE A GREAT RECORD RIGHT NOW BUT WILL BE 0-0 WHEN THE PLAYOFFS START.
I CAN’T STAND IT WHEN PEOPLE RUN OFF WITH THE MOUTH BECAUSE SOME OF THE OTHER TEAMS ARE DOWN(FALCONS)
JUST BE HAPPY FOR THE SAINTS THIS YEAR.
REMEMBER IT CAN ALL GO AWAY FROM ONE YEAR TO THE NEXT.
PROUD OF DEM SAINTS, ALWAYS HAVE BEEN AND ALWAY WILL.
WIN OR LOSE!

TMoney

December 10th, 2009
1:19 pm

TheManMike

December 10th, 2009
12:52 pm

Even the “Holy” Saints would flail without Brees, Thomas etc… How you think the Colts would fair with Manning, Addai, Saturday etc all sidelined?
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I’ve been making the same argument, and I’d like to add the Vikings minus Favre and Peterson. The fact is, injuries have been a major downfall this season. Not the only reason we have lost, but a major one.

North FLA Falcon

December 10th, 2009
1:21 pm

For the Falcons to win they need to pound the ball and throw some screens. Use Redman in a no huddle (I’m going to assume that Matt R will not play). On defense: rush 3 and drop 8, we need all the help we can get vs Brees. Get a break or 2 on special teams (maybe a few nice returns or take one to the house), keep momentum up and the crowd into it. It could get ugly but it doesn’t have to. We played these guys tough in New Orleans in the fall. Payback time?

Choke is a joke

December 10th, 2009
1:21 pm

Matt “Choke” Ryan

December 10th, 2009
1:00 pm

From 2003 to 2009, the team that finished in last place in the division the previous year went on to win the division the following season:[1]

Carolina finished last in 2002, and first in 2003
Atlanta finished last in 2003, and first in 2004
Tampa Bay finished last in 2004, and first in 2005
New Orleans finished last in 2005, and first in 2006
Tampa Bay finished last in 2006, first in 2007
New Orleans finished last in 2008, first in 2009
In the final week of the 2008 regular season, a last-second field goal led Carolina (12-4) to victory over the Saints and an NFL South title. The win prevented Atlanta at 11-5 (who had finished last in 2007), from continuing the “last-to-first” streak

“That says it all”

That your posts are retarded? Yes, we agree.

TMoney

December 10th, 2009
1:27 pm

A look at yesterday’s practice for the Falcons and the injuries:

DT Jonathan Babineaux (Shoulder) – LP
T Sam Baker (Elbow) – LP
WR Michael Jenkins (Ankle) – LP
T Will Svitek (Ankle) – LP
WR Roddy White (Knee) – LP
CB Christopher Owens (Shoulder) – FP
G Harvey Dahl (Ankle) – DNP
CB Chris Houston (Hamstring) – DNP
C Todd McClure (Knee) – DNP
TE Justin Peele (Head) – DNP
QB Matt Ryan (Toe) – DNP
RB Michael Turner (Ankle) – DNP

That’s 4 offensive starters that didn’t practice and 3 more that were limited.
On defense 1 starter was out 1 was limited and 1 had a full practice.

TheManMike

December 10th, 2009
1:38 pm

TMoney:

Agreed. I am a bit torn on starting Ryan. I mean, one side of me wants us to do everything we can to get the winning record, but another part knows we should not start Ryan with that injury. We wouldn’t want that injury to nag him throughout the years – he’s too young. We pretty much know we don’t really have the ammo right now to make any sort of playoff run, but a winning record is still in reach – I say sit Ryan another week. I’d like to see Norwood returning some kicks again too – We have to utilize his speed better than trying to run him up the middle. Keep Weems on the punt return duties but get Norwood more playing time on KR. Let’s see what the Stecker kid can do, too.

I can’t really think of a team right now that is suffering anywhere near the same injuries we are – As soon as that article about Jeff “Fish” came out at the beginning of the year, I had a feeling we would be damned by the injury fairy this season. With all our issues, CB should be our #1 priority in the off season, and I think it will be – I am so sick of the big play. 2 plays/80yard/TD the Bucs had on us hopefully opened the eyes of our brass….

MV#777 Adversary

December 10th, 2009
1:46 pm

Since you like posting news articles that favor your position, here is part of one right back at ya:

The indictment also outlined a rough chronology:

• In March 2003, after a pit bull from Bad Newz Kennels lost in a fight, it said Peace consulted with Vick about the losing dog’s condition, then executed it by wetting it with water and electrocuting it;

• In March 2003, after two Bad Newz Kennels dog lost fights to dogs owned by a cooperating witness, it alleged that Vick retrieved a bag containing $23,000 and gave it to the owner of the winning dogs. One of the fights had a $20,000 purse;

• In the fall of 2003, a person witnessing a dog fight involving one of the dogs trained by Bad Newz Kennels incurred the ire of another cooperating witness by yelling out Vick’s name in front of the crowd during the fight.

It also said that after establishing Bad Newz Kennels in early 2002, Vick and the others obtained shirts and headbands promoting their affiliation with the kennel.

After a police raid on the property in April, Vick said he was rarely at the house, had no idea it may have been used in a criminal enterprise. He blamed family members for taking advantage of his generosity.

I like the last paragraph the most.

TheManMike

December 10th, 2009
1:49 pm

North FLA Falcon:

Agreed on pounding the ball. We won’t survive all the tipped passed against the Saints D, known for their INTs – If Redman is in, which I think he should be. We just have to find a way to score every time we have the ball to keep up, and our CB’s NEED TO TURN THEIR HEADS TO LOOK FOR THE BALL – namely Houston. I heard it mentioned a while back, but I wonder how Brian Finneran would look at the CB position? What do we have to lose?

Chris(Rell)

December 10th, 2009
1:57 pm

You people make so many excuses for the Falcons. Just call it like you see it!!!!

Redman is not going to do better if he plays against the Saints. With or without the starting O-Line. Yea he looked good against the Buc’s, but think about it for a second. They didnt prepare to play against him so of course he looked ok. The Eagles were able to prepare to play Redman, and what happened? They blocked balls at the line because he throws low balls and they blizzed him all day. If Redman was capable of winning as a starter he would be a starter, he needs the running game way more than M. Ryan to win.

And who is going to be celebrating on Peachtree if we go 9-7 and out of the playoffs? I could care less about us having to back-to-back winning seasons. Ive been a fan of the Falcons for a long time and even had season tickets for about 10 years. Ive seen big ups and downs following this team. If we miss the playoffs(which we will, and I called it about 4 weeks ago) and someone says to me “At least we had a winning season”, I might caugh my lungs up laughing.

Just a real fan keeping it real…….

TheManMike

December 10th, 2009
2:17 pm

Chris:

“You people make so many excuses for the Falcons. Just call it like you see it!!!”

Alrighty, We just won’t discuss the major issues the falcons had last week in missing their core play makers. We won’t talk about those thins….they’re just excuses and mean nothing…..

TheManMike

December 10th, 2009
2:24 pm

Example: Houston is not playing this week. I can assure you there will be minimal comments of people saying, “All those passing yards would have been WAY lower had Houston been in the game…”