Good QBs are torching the Falcons’ secondary

NEWARK – There is one thing that is becoming clear as the Falcons hit the .500 mark.

Giants quarterback Eli Manning had his best game of the season, passing for almost 400 yards against the Falcons. (Associated Press).

Giants quarterback Eli Manning had his best game of the season, passing for almost 400 yards against the Falcons. (Associated Press).

Teams with above average to great quarterbacks are going to feast on the secondary.

Falcons coach Mike Smith won’t single out the secondary, but tighter and more instinctive coverage would probably get more passes batted down or defense.

“We gave up a lot of passing yards,” Smith said. “That’s very obvious. Way too many passing yards. It’s team defense. It’s not just the secondary. It’s a combination of the secondary, linebackers and defensive (linemen). We’ve got to make plays on third down. We continue to struggle on third down. It’s a combination of a number of things. But we can not give up, those type of yards in the passing game and expect to have the success that we want to have.”

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Domenik Hixon pulls away from the Falcons secondary. (Associated Press)

The Falcons have been beaten by Tom Brady (277 yards passing), Tony Romo (311), Drew Brees (308), Jake Delhomme (195) and Eli Manning (a career-high 384). (Brady, Delhomme and Manning have started in Super Bowls).

The Falcons have beaten Chad Pennington, Delhomme, Shaun Hill, Jay Cutler and Jason Campbell.

If this “good quarterback” theory holds up, the Falcons will be in trouble against Philadelphia’s Donovan McNabb and Brees and the Saints. They should be OK against Josh Freeman (twice), Mark Sanchez and Ryan Fitzpatrick. If this hold up, the Falcons are headed for a 9-7 record which would snap the 44-year curse. However, that will not likely get them into the playoffs.

THE SECONDARY WOES: The secondary was exposed in the preseason by Philip Rivers and more importantly by Baltimore reserve John Beck.

The Falcons signed Brian Williams, but he suffered a knee injury and is on injured reserve. They traded for former first round pick Tye Hill, who received a shot, but got a quick hook against Carolina last week and did not even grace the field against the New York Giants.

The Falcons had opportunities to address the problem.

  1. They could have signed Domonique Foxworth. He was the team’s best corner last season. They elected not to over pay for his services. Maybe  over pay was the move to make.
  2. They could have drafted Vontae Davis in the first round with the 24th pick. He went on the next pick to Miami at 25 after the Falcons selected Peria Jerry.
  3. They could have signed Ty Law. The five-time Pro Bowler was signed by Denver on Nov. 7.
  4. They could have signed Chris McAlister. He was signed by the Saints last week and was inactive on Sunday.

New York Giants wide receiver Mario Manningham (82) comes down with pass for a first down as Atlanta Falcons cornerback Chris Houston (23) defends in the first quarter of an NFL football game, Sunday, Nov. 22, 2009, in East Rutherford, N.J. (AP Photo/Bill Kostroun)

New York Giants wide receiver Mario Manningham (82) comes down with pass for a first down as Atlanta Falcons cornerback Chris Houston (23) defends in the first quarter of an NFL football game, Sunday, Nov. 22, 2009, in East Rutherford, N.J. (AP Photo/Bill Kostroun)

ABRAHAM SPEAKS UP: Defensive end John Abraham has not had a full sack since the San Francisco game in Week Four. He has just 3.5 sacks after racking up a franchise record 16.5 last season.

He had a quarterback hit against Eli.

“The D-line has to do a better job of getting (Manning) down,” Abraham said. “The pressure was good, but we weren’t getting him down. If we get him down, you don’t have to worry about that stuff (the passing yards).

Q & A WITH BRENT GRIMES

Q: How can you all tighten things up in the secondary?

A: “Just do the fundamentals. Do our techniques and make plays when we have the opportunity.”

BAKER PLAYED STRONG: Left tackle Sam Baker returned to the lineup and appeared to have a strong game.

“It was not the outcome that we wanted,” Baker said. “We fought hard until the end. It’s just frustrating right now, but I came out OK.”

The offense was proud of how they rallied in the second half.

“It’s huge,” Baker said. “We had a chance to show some character at the end, just to get back in the game and put ourselves in position to win it, was huge for us.”

COIN TOSS BLUES: Matt Ryan called tails in overtime. The ref dropped the coin, picked it up and then flipped. Ryan didn’t now if it was tails on the drop.

“If we would have got that ball, things would have been different,” Tight end Tony Gonzalez said. “That’s the way the luck strikes. You have to give them credit. They took the ball, which you would think that . . . the team that gets that coin toss gets the ball and they usually win. That’s what happened.”

Ryan was not kicking himself for not calling heads.

“Those are the rules,” Ryan said. “You can’t be frustrated with the system.”

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TB

November 23rd, 2009
1:45 am

I guess I’m supposed to announce FIRST, maybe! OK, Good article. Exactly on point. The secondary has played very poorly. If you look at how the defense played in the first 2 games of the season and compare that to how it is playing now, it is the difference of night and day. Also, the defense tends to make plays at home that it doesn’t on the road. For whatever reason, huge mistakes are made on the road against the NFL’s best teams. The problem is obviously focusing on fundamentals when going on the road. I really don’t know why. Though it will be interesting to test the “Good QB oppostion” theory with McNabb and Brees since those will be the best visiting QBs we face all season at the dome. I suspect the D-Line and cornerbacks will play better in the dome as will the offense. They do remind me of some of the teams Jim Mora coached here a few years ago. Blow out some opponents one week and look lost the next week. I know we have better players and coaches now. It is a head scratcher. I agree that we most likely will get to the 9-7 record and get back to back winning seasons. The playoff idea right now is really out of reach this season. I’m a long time season ticket holder and will cheer them on loudly no matter what, but Wildcard berths are for teams that stand the best chance of winning against the toughest teams on the road. Right now, we are far from that. We would have to make huge strides on both strides of the ball on a consistent basis from where we are now to qualify as a team that has a shot of winning those tough road games. Otherwise, it would be really embarrassing, more than we have seen now. That is why the NFL is set up to advance the toughest teams. We are not that right now. Makes you wonder though. They could have paid Foxworth, Jason Elam’s money and just used a rookie kicker (that would have been the best solution). The sad fact is, this year’s draft has shown no results this year. 1st 2 picks are lost for the year. Picks 3 and 4 were taken to boost our cornerback postition. Pick 3 has yet to play corner and pick 4 is with Jacksonville. This draft is, so far this season, the opposite in productivity to last year’s. I do think right now it is obvious that some players that have not shown enough growth (C. Houston, M. Jenkins) probably won’t be here next year. Hopefully Elam won’t be here going into this week. Also noticable are a true lack of defensive leaders. Brooking and Milloy may have been getting older and slower, but they helped get the guys going and focused. I saw Mike Peterson in that role on the sideline today. Defense to me is just really young and looking for leadership and direction. Mike Peterson takes on that role, but we need more leaders.

Trainwreck

November 23rd, 2009
2:03 am

Really disappointing loss… watching other teams constantly convert 3rd downs with seemingly no importance on the distance makes my stomach turn… I just want to see us stop someone

Todd De Jong (@ATL_Todd)

November 23rd, 2009
2:04 am

I was using the “great quarterback” theory to comfort myself after the Falcons’ first 3 losses. If you told Mike Smith pre-season that he would be sitting at 7-3 with only road losses to only the Brady’s Patriots, Romo’s Cowboys, and Brees’ Saints I think he would have taken it in a heartbeat! But last week the Falcons defense made Jake Delhomme look like he did in 2003 and this week they made Eli Manning look like Peyton, so instead the Falcons are at 5-5 you had to downgrade your theory to include the “great or above average” quarterback. It is still a good theory, but there are others.

Another theory is that with the exception of the surprise blowout of San Francisco, this team simply cannot win on the road. In the first 4 weeks, San Francisco’s defense under Mike Singletary appeared much improved after wins over the Cardinals, Seahawks, a 3 point loss to the Vikings, and a 35-0 shutout of the Rams. Falcons had the early Week 4 bye week and to the surprise of pretty much everyone came in and DESTROYED the 49ers defense. They had an extra week to prepare and they were ready.

That leads to another theory – the luck of the draw gave the Falcons the first Bye in Week 4 when the team was relatively healthy. Then, over the past 6 games they have played 4 against opponents coming off their Bye week (much like the 49ers experienced from the Falcons). Also, Turner, Norwood, and others have been injured and missed time and nobody has had time off to recover since Oct. 4.

You touched on the final theory – there are multiple things going wrong at once and it doesn’t all fall on the secondary. As you noted the D-Line has to get more pressure on the quarterbacks so they don’t have all day to find an open receiver. The offense has to sustain longer drives and keep the defense off the field. Jason Elam needs to do better than 66% or the Falcons need to get a new kicker. Matt Ryan needs to break out of his “sophomore slump.” He showed signs of doing so during the fourth quarter so hopefully he can ride the positive momentum and turn it into a huge confidence-boosting game against Tampa Bay next week.

I do not believe the Falcons will run the table, but I do believe that they should beat the Bucs (twice), Jets, and Bills, and have the ability to “steal” one from either great quarterback McNabb or Brees because they will be at HOME, their opponent won’t be coming off a BYE, and Mike Smith and the coaching staff will address the multiple failures of the team and not just blame the secondary.

Elam's Right Leg

November 23rd, 2009
2:07 am

Was there a game today? Why didn’t anyone tell me!!!

TB

November 23rd, 2009
2:14 am

That is FUNNY “Elam’s Leg”!

NY Falcon

November 23rd, 2009
5:09 am

Good point, TB – this year’s draft class has done nothing. Those first two picks were just thrown away. Players with injury history in college usually do not shake those problems when they come to the NFL.

D. Orlando Ledbetter

November 23rd, 2009
5:50 am

Up early with y’all. Got about an hour and half of sleep. Had to drive from Newark to LaGuardia and now waiting to board.

TB: Excellent take. You picked up on the good to above average grading of the opponents. The road thing appears to be real. The one thing they did different for San Francisco was they left a day early. They went out on Friday. Maybe they need to go early to all of the road games.

TODD: Just read the New York Post. Eli was talking about recognizing that Grimes was in man coverage on Manningham. Perhaps the Falcons should scrap the man coverages, you know since they are not working out so well. Just go Cover-Two and keep the ball in front of you, go up and make the tackle. It’s boring, but might be the best way for them to roll.

ELAM’S LEG: Yes there was a game. Where were you? Why does the guy dressed like you stared down the holder after every miss? Kind of like Tiger blaming his caddy for pushing one his drives into the gallery.

TB and NY FALCON: Yes, it’s about time to do a 2008 draft contribution (not much) story. What does that say about Christopher Owens if he can get on the field in what I’m sure is going to be the 31st or 32nd rated pass defense after Monday night’s game.

D. Orlando Ledbetter

November 23rd, 2009
5:55 am

Zone 5 called. Heading back to the ATL!!!!

RedKneckerson

November 23rd, 2009
6:25 am

McNabb in the same breath as very good/great QB’s? You are being kind.McNabb is average at best.The Eagles are average at best. But hey they have tough fans, and they have the toughest media in sports.Yea, that will get you a few wins.

JOE THE BLOGGER

November 23rd, 2009
6:31 am

We all saw this coming after the pre-season game against the Chargers… the defense is three new starters away from being top notch… that is a significant talent shortage.

TheAntiMe

November 23rd, 2009
6:53 am

No matter what anyone says, the fact remains that the Falcons defense sports the most reliable secondary in the NFL. Any and every week, opposing teams can rely on Mr. Grimes, Mr. Houston, and company to surrender 300 yards (and often times more) to their offense, without fail.

If that’s not reliability, I don’t know what is.

Gamer

November 23rd, 2009
7:23 am

At the unveiling of the Falcons’ 2009 schedule, I’d penciled this Giant game as a lost. So I am not surprise by Giants victory. Especially with G-men coming off a bye week and desperately needing a win.

Eli played with alot of energy and muster on his passes.

I thought Ryan settled down in second half to match Eli’s energy level nearly quarterbacking the Falcons to victory.

Hopefully, Ryan and his receivers can build upon the newly found connection on deep balls.

What’s wrong with Jenkins missing catchable passes?

Corey Webster got away with several illegal bumps and holds on Roddy.

DB’S coach need to drill and grill Houston for not turning his head to locate the ball causing silly penalties by plowing into receivers. Most of the times the receivers probably won’t make the catches because of where the balls are placed.

Snelling performed fairly well, but we definitely miss Turner the Burner.

Falcons can still go 10-6, maybe enough wins to make postseason.

Alan

November 23rd, 2009
7:40 am

I am a dedicated Falcon fan always have been and always will be but I have a few questions.
#1-Is there a coaching problem on defense or is a player problem by not understanding and executing the defensive calls.
#2-Smitty says that the defense as a hole is responsible, how is it that during the game all facets of the defense screws up and yet are not held accountable for their group assignments. Where is the leadership and why arn’t we showing improvement as the season gos along, insterad we get worse.
#3-Yes we are young but we have veteran leadership in each group, Abraham, Peterson and Coleman – Something is wrong as they are not showing the leadership that you would expect.
#4-What the hell is going on with Elam, the fiels goals that he has missed the last two weeks probably cost us the games, where did the pre-snap jitters come from

I could go on, we are not executing like we did last year and the way we are playing we are not showing improvement over the season, I know that the schedule is more difficult (teams and bye weeks) but do we really have to look so bad losing.

Gamer

November 23rd, 2009
7:49 am

With Grimes atheleticism, why not try him at FREE-SAFETY?

cdog

November 23rd, 2009
8:06 am

the falcons don’t care about winning. they should just mail in the season. if they cared they would take pride in themselves and do something about it. the bottom line is they are terrible. their secondary couldn’t start for the vanderbilt secondary.jason elam has no concern with getting better. most of them is more worried about a paycheck than winning. thats wasted money on their players.

Samuel

November 23rd, 2009
8:06 am

We don’t have a good defense period,we can’t stop anyone when we have to.Yeah coach Smith doesn’t want to single out any portion of the defense. But sometimes the d-line plays well, as I look back from the last ten games never has the secondary particularly the cornerbacks played well. We are not going to the superbowl or get deep in the playoffs, with Cris Houston, Tye Hill or Brent grimes. Although I think grimes is the most athletic of the three. Their are no teams that fear our defense, there are such things as cover sacks, but it won’t come from our corners. I give coach Smith a C+ this year for coaching, Dimitroff a D for some of these sorry draft picks and free agents. I think the offense will get better, but with a young quarterback we better fix this defensive problem. Harry Douglas,Peria, and Brian williams will probally need two years to recover from these injuries. We need a nose tackle, a Slot receiver and a cover cornerback next year.Do we bring back Norwood back, who’s been often injured with two concussions? Or do we draft a speed running back, who can compliment Turner and Snelling? Michael Jenkins saved his but a little after dropping that pass in the endzone. However this guy is not a compliment to Roddy White. We need a one two punch at the wide receiver position. This team is moving in the right direction, minus these glaring defensive problems. It’s time for Jason Elam to go period.

Tony R.

November 23rd, 2009
8:07 am

I agree, the defense as a whole is playing subpar. If you can’t get pressure with your front four then the secondary is going to get picked a part all day. Since our DBs seemingly haven’t been taught–and practice–how to look back for the ball we can’t play man-to-man. That ancient technique of looking at the receiver and waiting for them to show signs the ball is coming has been played out since the 70s. I don’t know about any of you but I am not impressed with Coleman at all. This secondary definitely needs to go cover 2 until we fix our coverage technique or get new DBs in here. We also seem to lack a speedy LB in coverage and a couple of DTs with size and strength to push the OL. I don’t like this trend of the smaller faster DL. There are big dlinemen with speed and power. We better fix our defensive problems if we expect to win the majority of these remaining games. We’re about to see what this team is really made of and how bad they want to take things to the next level.

David

November 23rd, 2009
8:15 am

Bottom Line:
No more excuses, they had broken coverage all day long and all season long and that only points to bad coaching.
Don’t be surprise if you see the Falcon’s Defensive Coordinator fired before the end of the season.
This is the worst defense I have ever, and I mean ever seen in my history of watching football both college and pro.
This must be a nightmare for the coaches in the film room after the game. Especially for Coach Smith.
If you really watch the defense throughout the game, you can see mistakes by the players on just about every play.
This time a year you can’t blame it on youth, because they should be improving and they are only getting worse, this is why the defensive coordinator should be FIRED!!!!!

SirReal

November 23rd, 2009
8:20 am

Well, the preseason secondary has shown up again. Give credit to the run defense. They had a solid day. The secondary is just trash on both sides…Why do they feel like Houston is stable at RCB? This is his third year and he still doesn’t know how to get his head around in coverage! Isnt that a BASIC fundamental of a CB? Either caoching isnt working or these guys are just trash. Fans, we gotta ask ourselves one question here. Even if we do make it to the playoffs as a wild card….we have to face ELITE QBs!! How far do you really see us going with our swiss cheese secondary? Seriously…..

The Real Falcon

November 23rd, 2009
8:24 am

Not certain what OL play you saw but they were terrible all day. Baker was completely turned around by the DE. He looked like a top. On several plays the Giants only rushed 4 players against our 5 OL plus a RB and still got a sack. Atheletic DL’s eat our OL’s lunch. Meanwhile the Giants OL gave Manning plenty of time to dissect our secondary.

gt 97

November 23rd, 2009
8:26 am

The defense is what it is! A couple of missed opportunities in the red zone on offense, and the Giants have the game. I rather lose a game like this than the one against Carolina. The Carolina game will hurt us in the long run. Defensive Backs are not instinctive enough. Is it coaching or personnel? I don’t know, but next year its needs to be addressed.

IceFan

November 23rd, 2009
8:28 am

Yes, the secondary is awful, but everyone already knew that. We were going to have to put up 30 a game to outscore what the secondary gives up.

The last two losses are on Elam! You could put this one on Jenkins also, for dropping that pass in the endzone. When it comes down to it though, Elam has one job to do and he isn’t doing it. Time to cut him!

NCFalconFan

November 23rd, 2009
8:32 am

Can we let Foxworth go. He was defintely an upgrade of Grimes (who wouldn’t be) but Baltimore’s pass defense is not much better.

Dean

November 23rd, 2009
8:35 am

On the bright side, we did manage to pretty much shut down their run game. I’m disappointed but I’m even sadder that while I was gnashing my teeth 4 families of US troops were getting much worse news than us losing a dam football game. Sorry.

Not so casual observer..

November 23rd, 2009
8:36 am

I am reading all of these post I I have to admit, I am impressed at the way Falcon fans are able to view this team / season as half full instead of the alternative…. 1st This Defense needs more than just better players in the secondary. Bret Grimes is small and would be better served as a nickel corner playing against guys in the slot. The linebackers always seems to get a pass, but not hear.. How many times did the Giants get 1st downs on funs off tackle or passes to Boss over the top of the linebackers. In fact, the only people that is worse in coverage that the Falcons DBs, are the linebackers. And everybody is breathing easier that Matt Ryan had a better second half, and thats fine, except the game last for 60 minutes not 30… His fumble led to a touchdown, Mike Jenkins can’t catch and Tony Gonzales can’t / won’t block. Face it folks… This team is just not that good. I am not sure what you folks are seeing, but this team has to win 4 of 6 ti have back to back winning seasons, and 5 of 6 to make the playoffs…Please someone, anyone.. tell me what do you guys see that makes you think they can do that???

planb

November 23rd, 2009
8:37 am

Elam and Jenkins must go. We have enough problem making points without giving them up by droping balls for touchdowns and missing short fieldgoals.
The secondary can’t cover. Use a different scheme to help them or the losses will continue. Replace them when you can, but try to do it better than you did with the draft. Where are these guys we drafted???? I’ve forgotton their names.

NCFalconFan

November 23rd, 2009
8:37 am

Its time to look at the coaching. Smith talks about having intensity throughout the game, that falls on him and his staff. I know Emmitt Thomas is a Hall of Famer and has done a lot for his organization, but is it time to bring someone else in to coach these players up during the game?

A.B.

November 23rd, 2009
8:39 am

2 or 3 plays that if only Houston turns around, easy interception.Abraham claims the DL put good pressure on Eli most of the day. BS. Most of the game, Eli had enough time to have coffee and a bagle.

planb

November 23rd, 2009
8:43 am

PS – Norwood is another that will not get over his injuries to help the team as he should.

SirReal

November 23rd, 2009
8:44 am

I’m sick of management keeping a KICKER who has DESTROYED the outcome of at LEAST three games this year already. Why are we keeping this guy on the roster and he CONTINUES to miss simple chip shots?!!! You can blame the D if you want for this one ( the secondary is trash and the D-line gets NO pressure. Why have we not gone to Sidbury yet? Cant do any worse than the guys out there now) but if Jenkins doesnt drop a touchdown, and ELAM DOESNT MISS AN OPPORTUNITY TO GIVE US A LEAD/SWING THE MOMENTUM, we pull this one out in NY. Another question to the Falcon nation….do our defensive woes fall on the players, Brain Van Gorder (who needs to go), or Mike Smith, who’s supposed to be a defensive mind himself?

hawesg

November 23rd, 2009
8:47 am

Could’ve drafted Sean Smith instead of William “Glass” Moore.

Scott Case

November 23rd, 2009
8:54 am

Jason Elam should be cut – period. I’d rather see Koenan out there.

hawesg

November 23rd, 2009
9:04 am

I can’t blame Mike Smith for the fact that his CBs are wretched. Houston’s a mediocre #2 who has to be a #1. Think about how much the defense degraded after Williams got hurt. While I completely blame Dimitroff for taking Glass Moore over Sean Smith (gee, why would we need a big CB in a division with Colston and Winslow?), I give him a partial pass on Jerry and Williams.

It was Smith and his staff who finally got something out of Jamaal Anderson by moving him inside. The LB corps has played the run solidly recently. Babineaux’s playing well.

But Abraham got old overnight, Chauncey Davis disappeared and Brian Williams got hurt. That goes more on the GM, whose job it is to provide depth.

That said, Emmitt Thomas should pick out his gold watch.

JeanE

November 23rd, 2009
9:20 am

I was impressed with the Falcons’ grit, I thought the Giants would toast us but they didn’t. I was especially happy to see Matt Ryan stand in the pocket and not get the Happy Feet, very good Matty! Don’t know what’s wrong with Jason Elam, at this point, don’t care. Seriously, Morten Anderson would make that kick. Why can’t Koenen kick Field goals? Brent Grimes is so tough, I love the way that guy plays! I had to laugh when Moose Johnston said in a very PC way that the Falcons’ secondary was having trouble with “coverage concepts”, what an undestatement!!! Chris Houston was exposed time and again as the weakest link in the secondary, how was this guy a 1st round pick? Not signing Foxworth is haunting us as I knew it would! John Abraham is still the missing link, is he hurt or what? And Michael Jenkins is just like Elam: there’s a 50/50 chance he’ll catch something, can’t count in him. Finneran would’ve caught that in the endzone, no doubt of it. I knew as soon as we loss that coin toss, that’s it. Our defense couldn’t stop the pass all day, what would change. Nothing. Good job of shutting down the run but the secondary has to be addressed through free agency in the offseason, I have no confidence in our ability to draft a CB so we have to pay for one. Hope Dimitroff has learned that lesson. Still say we’ll be lucky to finish out with a winning season, forget the playoffs. Can’t even think of that, we’re not that good. Still, keep fighting Falcons. Beat Tampa Bay, I’ll be at that game. Go Birds!

spectator

November 23rd, 2009
9:37 am

Falcons mediocre record is a function of:
1. Elam…terrible kicker who has cost the Falcons two games…what a turkey!
2. Brent Grimes could not start on any good college team..why is he on the Falcon’s roster? Other teams can always throw on him when they need a big gain.
3. Falcons are very average at linebacker; Mike Peterson cannot carry Brooking’s jock. Giants tight end had a nice game, huh? Did you see Peterson trying to catch up after he was beaten by ten yards over and over?
4. Has any D coordinator done a worse job than Van Gorder? I don’t think so.
5. This year’s draft was a complete waste. The Falcons have gotten zero contribution from any of them. Haven’t heard much comment from Wonder boy GM or Mike Smith about this.

The Falcons will have a losing record…the streak goes on.

SirReal

November 23rd, 2009
9:37 am

Yeah I agree hawesg, the GM WHIFFED on this draft. Too many gambles that didnt pay off. I dont know who does our scouting but that must improve. Honestly, I’d be willing to deal our 1st rd pick for a top-tier corner. We’d probably waste it again anyway.

Not so casual observer..

November 23rd, 2009
9:38 am

Hey Falcons fans….. Check this out!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOKOkIf4jrc

A Mouthful of AWESOME !!

November 23rd, 2009
9:52 am

I wonder if Freddie Falcon will commit suicide like UGA did just to NOT have to watch the rest of this season going down the drain.

Matt

November 23rd, 2009
10:10 am

Dear Falcons Secondary: Please, please, please, for the Love of all that is Holy TURN AROUND AND LOOK FOR THE BALL ONCE AND A WHILE!!!. I have never seen a secondary with less “feel” for where and when the ball is coming. I realize they are trying, but the simple fact is that the secondary has been PUTRID all season long.

Confused and Curious

November 23rd, 2009
10:14 am

Hey Not so casual observer…, maybe we can sign Vick to be Turner’s back-up, since his only play of note this year was a RUN (thought QB’s were paid to throw the ball). Also, my 5.8 40 yard dash time could have picked up yards with that hole that opened up. Why don’t you just go post on the Eagle’s blogs since you aren’t really a Falcons fan anyway.

DrJ

November 23rd, 2009
10:31 am

Elam has lost his leg. For several weeks now he has been aiming at the left post, some go the right of it, and some to the left. I don’t this double take he has just before he kicks. He acts like the center is double-centering…but that would be called by the refs. The holds look good. Sooner or later the great ones have to retire, so I guess it is about time.

Something is amiss with coaching. Leaving rushers uncovered, and the Giant’s receivers were wandering around in the secondary like they could go anywhere they wanted: sometimes no DB for 8-10 yds!. Do we have a defensive secondary coach?

Snelling is getting better and better with more reps. He and Ryan were the bright spots for the day.
So with Snelling getting into a grove, when Turner returns, things will really start looking up.

Not so casual observer..

November 23rd, 2009
10:33 am

Confused and Curious

November 23rd, 2009
10:14 am

Hey C & C,

I am not fan of The Eagles or Vick, But I do take great joy in teasing Falcons fans. The falcons lost a game that they should have won, and we have folks on this blog selling the we looked good game….In case they do not know, this is the NFL not the BCS!!! Looking good does not matter only wins and losses. I posted the Vick clip beacuse that is the easiest way to get Falcons fans to be honest about something. Vick was not a Top shelf passer, and I don’t think he ever will be, and I understand why folks would call him out on that, but my question is remains, Why can these “fans” be so hard on Vick but so soft on Ryan and the Falcons coaching staff???

An Observation

November 23rd, 2009
10:33 am

If I was a team getting ready to play the Falcons, the only thing that I’d focus on is throwing the ball downfield via pass plays knowing that the Falcons’ CBs can’t stop any team that they have faced this year.

Why even try running plays when you can simply pass all day long.

N C

November 23rd, 2009
10:34 am

I would have liked to see the Falcons go for the 2 points at the end. I’d rather lose the game that way than leave it to a defense that couldn’t stop anybody. The game was over after the overtime coin toss. Why doesn’t the secondary even try to look for the ball? That can’t be blamed on the coaching. These people have been playing for years and even the pee wee’s know to look for the ball on a pass play. So much for the “youth” movement…

MV8

November 23rd, 2009
10:34 am

If not for Elam & the injurys(Turner, Norwood, Douglas, Peria, Moore, Williams) we win a few of these games but Abraham is stealing money, at 3.5 sacks after 10 games what are we paying him, 2 million per sack??? The dude had 1 freakin tackle & no sacks again, Defend the Dome??? You should forfeit your game check or donate it to your church, your a theif without a mask! Pitiful all talk & no walk, as for the secondary all we have right now is Coleman & Decoud thats it end of story the rest need to go, even without the injurys we would have to outscore everyone to win cause we dont have any playmakers on defense, 3.5 sacks??? Jared Allen with the Vikings gets that in 1 game, Abraham you need to wake the Hell up!

Falconsforlife

November 23rd, 2009
10:49 am

Come on, one nice run by Vick into a GIGANTIC hole and he’s back? Seriously? Philly is barely using him and when he has to pass it’s almost embarrassing how bad he performs.

I’m disgusted by the secondary, but I think we all knew this is what would happen once Williams went down. There is no depth of talent in the secondary. That absolutely must be addressed going into next year. Hopefully TD won’t rely on coaching up a secondary full of 3rd and 4th stringers expecting them to perform at 1st and 2nd corner levels.

Confused and Curious

November 23rd, 2009
10:59 am

Not So Casual, my fault. I am also a UGA fan, so I had a very frustrating weekend! I agree, we should be a little harder on Ryan, but I was also pretty soft on Vick’s shortcomings his first few years. I do feel that Ryan played well enough to win, especially if Jenkins catches that TD instead of the FG. Hope your team(s) did well this weekend and good job on getting this Falcon fan going!

Not so casual observer..

November 23rd, 2009
11:00 am

MV8

November 23rd, 2009
10:34 am

Effective right now, Falcons fans can no longer use the injuries, or missed field gaols, or the schedule or whatever. Last year the Birds played the against the worst combined schedule in the league. Falcons fan need to gt over it. You either beat the teams in front of you regardless of injuries ( Colts have lost enitre secondary this season) or schedule ( Saints play the same treams as the Falcons).

Real American

November 23rd, 2009
11:01 am

Wow……a “moral victory”…LOL

Real American

November 23rd, 2009
11:06 am

This “we play a hard schedule” is such a loser’s mentality! LOL! If you’re a good team, your schedule DOESN’T MATTER. It doesn’t matter if the Falcons had to play the Colts, Steelers, Pats and Vikings 4 weeks in a row after their bye! If you can’t hang with the big boys then get off the field. So now the Falcons fans want a lighter schedule afforded to them so they can PRETEND to be good? LMAO