Falcons: Ryan may have some limitations

Carolina's Richard Marshall (31) came down with Matt Ryan's high pass that was intended for Michael Jenkins in the fourth quarter. (David T. Foster III/Charlotte Observer).

Carolina's Richard Marshall (31) came down with Matt Ryan's high pass that was intended for Michael Jenkins in the fourth quarter. (David T. Foster III/Charlotte Observer).

ONE GAME FROM FIVEHUNDREDVILLE – The 28-19 loss to Carolina may be the low point for the Falcons under second-year head coach Mike Smith.

They have played hard in every game over the 26-game Smith era, but it may have been just the second time that they were defeated when they were favored. (You guys can look that one up, but I know they were favored to win on the road in Arizona for the playoff game last year.)

But the schedule doesn’t get any easier. They travel to rickety Giants Stadium for a showdown with Tom Coughlin and the G-men, who are 5-4 and have been stewing about it over their bye week.

When considering the Falcons schedule this season  — four games against teams coming off byes -– and the aftermath of the DeAngelo Hall incident, it doesn’t appear that the Falcons have many friends at the league office. The schedule is atrocious and how Hall got away without being fined is one of the great mysteries of our time. Hall did say he was going to give his “peeps” a call.

After rolling back down I-85 late last night, I had a little extra time to think about the five things we learned from the game.

1. The Falcons still don’t have a left cornerback. The Falcons knew that Tye Hill probably wasn’t the answer when they traded for him, but were likely hoping that by acquiring him and Brian Williams before the outset of the season, that the other corners would step up their games. Brent Grimes played much stronger, but his man was still open. It’s probably time to go ahead and include rookie Christopher Owens in the rotation at left cornerback. At least get him some spot duty.

2. Matt Ryan may have some limitations. One NFL quarterback coach told me and a few other friends at the NFL

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Combine last spring that he wasn’t completely sold on Matt Ryan. Stunned and perplexed, we  asked why? The coach said that Falcons offense was so simple last year that teams would figure it out. He said with a 1,700-yard back, that all Ryan had to do last season was find the single safety and throw away from him. The Falcons knew this. That’s why they spent most of their offseason working on the passing attack and why they went out and got Tony Gonzalez. One other thing, the second knock on Ryan coming out of the draft was that he sailed passes to the left. Both of the interceptions were passes to the left on Sunday. The No. 1 knock was he threw too many interceptions, but that was blamed on the quality of the Boston College receivers. (Matt has a Fathead deal. You can get a life-sized image of Ryan in the Falcons’ throwback jersey at Fathead.com.)

3. Where in the heck is John Abraham? With teams knowing that at least one receiver (usually the one guarded by the left cornerback) is going to be open, they are running their “quick game” stuff against the Falcons. Slants and quick outs to get the ball out fast. Rarely did Jake Delhomme take a seven-step drop and drive the ball up-field. So Abraham and the rest of the defensive line don’t have enough time to get to the quarterback like they did in the first half against Washington when they had five sacks. But still Abraham only has 3.5 sacks. I’m inclined to concur with Jeff Schultz that the 16-plus sack Abraham from 2008 has been abducted by aliens.

4.  Long snapper might not be long for the roster spot. Had too much other stuff going on with Turner being hurt and Ryan’s picks and by the time I tried to find long snapper Bryan Pittman, punter Michael Koenen or kicker Jason Elam, they were on one of the buses. But clearly the timing was off on the 34-yard field goal kick and Elam wasn’t happy about it. But when you got four hours to drive you can come up with some theories. My neighbor George – a season ticket holder and Falcons road warrior – and I were wondering if the Falcons were trying to draw the Panthers offsides (they only needed an inch) and maybe somebody forgot to tell Elam? Maybe they weren’t supposed to kick it. Just line up try to draw them offsides and then if the Panthers didn’t jump, just take the penalty and kick it from 39 yards?

5. The Falcons can block kicks. A big special teams play got lost in the shuffle. Defensive end Chauncey Davis busted through to block a Panthers 51-yard field goal attempt in the third quarter. The blocked field goal was the first for the Falcons since Nov. 30, 2008 at San Diego. Earlier this season, cornerback Brian Williams blocked a Carolina punt in Week Two. “Me, Jamaal (Anderson) and Babs (Jonathan Babineaux) had a great push and once we get those two steps we have to throw our hands up,” Davis said. “The ball was coming. We got a great push, got the guys knocked back and I got my hands up.”

Falcons will find out more about Michael Turner's ankle sprain today. If it's a high ankle sprain, he could miss a lot of action. (Chuck Burton/Associated Press).

The Falcons will find out more about Michael Turner's ankle sprain today. If it's a high ankle sprain, he could miss a lot of action. (Chuck Burton/Associated Press).

It had to be a long ride back to Flowery Branch for the Falcons. They kicked away a winnable game, running back Michael Turner might be out for awhile and their second-year quarterback has to find his magic for them to make a playoff run.

“It’s was real tough,” Davis said. “We had plenty of opportunities to take over the game. We just kept making mistakes.”

238 comments Add your comment

SWAT Native

November 16th, 2009
8:18 am

I hate to do this, but first?

humble(1)

November 16th, 2009
8:20 am

Rough game yesterday, one that scared me all week. I don’t see us winning in NY with the Giants coming off of their bye week. So that puts us at 5-5 with the Saints and Eagles coming to town. We could realistically be 5-7 after 12 games. Or we could be 7-6, this team is going to be OK, it just may not be OK this year.

SWAT Native

November 16th, 2009
8:21 am

…Now i know how that feels. Tough loss yesterday, and as you point out, it exposes a lot of questions going forward. The Falcons needed a split of these two road games, so hopefully they can get a win in New Jersey.

humble(1)

November 16th, 2009
8:25 am

Forgot about the Bucs, and that should be a win.

GEORGIADAWGG43

November 16th, 2009
8:35 am

FALCONS LOSE NEXT WEEK TO GIANTS.COLLEGE BOY DOESN’T HAVE WHAT IT TAKES TO WIN.ARTHUR BLANK YOU GOT BURNED AGAIN.MATTY ICE IS LAUGHING ALL THE TO THE BANK.

Rdhdkid

November 16th, 2009
8:36 am

Some say there’s no such thing as an ugly win, but there are definitely ugly losses and this was one of them. I swear sometimes it seems as if the Falcons are scared of Carolina and have resigned themselves to losing before the game even starts. And we still need to get rid of the itty-bitty cornerbacks.

EAAAASSY

November 16th, 2009
8:44 am

GEORGIADAWGG43 , so the kids struggling a bit after his second year. He’s got a bit of the int bug. So what? He’s still the face of this franchise and will turn it around.

BTW, talk about getting burned and laughing one’s way to the bank. How much are the Lions paying Stafford to not only sling picks around the field, but not even compete?

How about you think before you spew bs like that on these boards.

IceFan

November 16th, 2009
8:48 am

As on of Ryan’s most ardent supporters, I’ll be the first to say that he is playing like crap. He is sailing passes and lacks confidence in the pocket.

That being said, I put just as much blame on the playcalling as Ryan on his last INT. Can ANYONE explain to me why in the world we would call a play to chuck the ball 30 yds downfield on 1st and 10 from midfield with 4 min to score and win.

I think a 3rd grader could tell you that you run the ball in that situation. We had 4 min to move the ball 25 yds for a field goal or 50 yds for a TD. Why go for it all on the first play? That call just astounds me!

I truly believe this is a sophomore slump for Ryan. I think he and the team will bounce back and sneak into the playoffs. He WILL get better.

I know damn well there are guys who are licking their chops to bash Ryan on these blogs all week. I still can’t figure out why they love to hate him, but go ahead and let it out. He will prove you all wrong in the long run. Bank on it.

Kingtut

November 16th, 2009
8:50 am

Enter your comments here Have any body seen Mike Vick?

Craig

November 16th, 2009
8:55 am

Ok so Ryan isnt playing like a veteran, that makes him playing like what, a second year player? Matty Ice will be ok. The long INT might go in Ryans stats, but can anyone tell me why Jenkins stopped running and turned around??? If he would have kept running straight, I’m pretty sure that pass hits him in stride. Everyone loves Matt Ryan when he’s winning, but at the first sign of struggle, all the transplant Atlantans want to jump off the bus. Go back to New York!

The Real Falcon

November 16th, 2009
9:01 am

It was Ryan’s 10th interception over the last five games. He threw 11 in all of 2008.
He has now thrown at least one interception in each of the last six games. He’s thrown an interception in seven of the nine games this season. These are the facts. That’s extra possesions for the opposing team. The commentators mentioned that Ryan has some sort of “tell” which is letting defenses know when he will be passing.
Regardless what play is called it’s the QB’s responsibility to make the play or check it off.

The Real Falcon

November 16th, 2009
9:02 am

Born and raised here, dude.

itpdude

November 16th, 2009
9:07 am

Ryan is a second year player but he still seems to choke in the clutch. The INT near the end of the game yesterday killed the Falcons. I was listening on the radio so I didn’t see it but I’ve seen Ryan sail them to the left. This means Ryan is a right side of the field QB which means most NFL teams should figure out they can put their weak D-backs on the left side of the field.

That means more game-killing INT’s.

tidog

November 16th, 2009
9:09 am

Here is my take and sole consolation for the game and the remaining season. Falcons left far too many points on the field. You don’t convert 3rd and 1 or 4th and 1 you can understand the loss. With that said, the team that gets hot down the stretch will usually get the job done. No team has yet to be the team everyone deems as hot. Should the Falcons run the table surely they’d be considered a hot team with superbowl implications. Someone will get hot(Cardinals last year)why not the birds.

Ron

November 16th, 2009
9:18 am

I have seen this before when a Quarterback looses his confidence he starts overthinking and he starts throwing interceptions, and it is hard to break that cycle. Joey Harrington was a good example of that, Joey got beat up so bad in Detroit he never recovered. Matt has the talent he just needs some success to get his confidence back, he is thinking about what he doesn’t want to do instead of what he needs to do.
Like in golf if you think I want to hit it down the left side with a little draw, or you think Don’t hit it in the lake, if you try not to hit it in the lake that is where it will go most of the time. Matt is thinking don’t throw the interception, and he should be thinking of where he wants to place the ball. Last year he was such a rookie that he wasn’t scared he didn’t know any better. I believe he is smart and talented and he will be fine, face the facts we overachieved last year and we had a lot of good breaks last year this year it is evening out. I believe we will finish the season strong and I think we beat New Orleans at home for a big win watch it happen.

Todd - Dacula

November 16th, 2009
9:22 am

Sooo, taking it easy on Matt Ryan, huh? Why dos this less than average QB et a pass? Do you guy’s want your poster boy QB ths bad? I get it; he’s the QB now. Anyone else would be run out of town. Me, I’d take vick anyday, even two years sitting on ice in the slammer. The Falcons and some of you Atlanta Fans tucked your tail and did what PETA whanted you to do.

It sure would be nice to have him [Mike Vick] on the field now, especially on 3 and 1 and 4 and 1 :)

Manny

November 16th, 2009
9:25 am

Matt Ryan may be the face of the franchise, but Michael Turner is the heart of the franchise. This is Mike’s team. Think about it: dude took 9 carries and posted 111 yards. If he wouldn have stayed healthy for the entire game, this game wouldn’t have even been close. The Falcons would have won this game big-time.

That was disappointing. But here’s what we have: We have a shortage of talent at the DB spot. Tye Hill must step up and I think he will.

John Abraham has been shut out, but Babineaux has been picking up the slack. We need consistency on our D-Line.

On offense, we were really hurting not having Norwood in there. That change of pace takes some pressure off Michael Turner. Now that Mike’s hurt, I simply do not know what’s going to happen.

Our QB is average. He’s just OK. In crunch time, he melts. He lacks the mental toughness of hanging in there and making good, accurate throws when it counts. Ryan has the skills, and he has the football intelligence, but he’s skiddish. That knock has been on him since Boston College, and that’s why his INT record in college is so bad. That will be his struggle. He has to get better.

My question is this: When is Norwood coming back? If we can get Norwood back, we can run with him and #44 in the backfield. (Just can’t remember his name, but he’s a bruiser-back. I like him.) With those two back there, we can do the “Thunder-and-Lightening” thing, and that can take pressure off Matt Ryan. Therefore, we can win.

Bottom line is this: Wherever the Falcons running game goes, so goes the entire offense. And right now, our offense is sitting on the sideline, taped up and watching helplessly.

PMC

November 16th, 2009
9:26 am

I’m thinking a 1930’s style Notre Dame rushing attack is in order.

Run Run Run Run Run Run Run….and we’re not going to pass unless thier secondary comes up to close. The Running is fine…. lets ride it for a while. Screw the deep pass. just move the chains.

The injury bug has bitten this team hard this year. Tye Hill is an emergency backup. Trey Lewis, Vance Walker emergency. The defense is not as “urgent” as it was the first time these two played.

All is not lost. 5-4 another good team coming off a freaking bye. It’s tough to have consistant success in the NFL when everyone is so good.

Bill Musgrave is a good QB’s coach. They can fix that stuff. He helped Vick smooth out his feet in the pocket, now he’s got to get Matt to calm his lower body get out on his front foot so he won’t be sailing stuff left. Rolling him out more left might help. There are lots of things they could do but seriously 3 yards and a cloud of dust is working. 45 yard passes aren’t.

Matt

November 16th, 2009
9:29 am

Matt Ryan is my quarterback. Sure he is struggling, but I am confident in his long term future in this league. He’s smart enough and a hard enough worker to correct his flaws. (Hint: Stop always looking for Gonzalez first). My main concern is the porous Defense. The secondary is just horrible and watching Tye Hill is just painful.

So what if we lose....

November 16th, 2009
9:30 am

We’ve got our pocket passer!! LOL!!!

BOB

November 16th, 2009
9:31 am

Matt Ryan has the classic Atlanta syndrome best expressed by the Jeff Francouer situation: some regional/ethnic types want a hero so badly that the local “media” in hopes of garnering favor deifies the person out of proportion to their talent. Put simply: he was annointed the ant-Vick but the role became to small and was cast as the Leader.
We know how the Francoeur situation played out; what we don’t know is how Arthur Blank gets oout of another PR disaster?

Foracel

November 16th, 2009
9:33 am

Troy Bergeron should help the receivers,but hopefully the QB that the Falcons have now,should be able to think and react better.

gdg73

November 16th, 2009
9:34 am

You are 100% correct. When Ryan was throwing all those interceptions at B.C., the draft gurus dismissed it as the lack of talent at the WR corps. I think Mularkey and Co. have tried to put too much on his plate too soon. Maybe Ryan is not as smart as everyone thinks he is. All we hear about is how hard he works. Maybe he needs to start working “smarter”. The Giants game is HUGE now. This is make or break for him. Also, I don’t buy that garbage about the long-snapper. Elam has been shanking kicks for two years now. The Flacons should have signed Brandon Couto from Georgia last year and solved the kicking position for the next 12 years. I think he is kicking for Seattle now. Can’t blame this one on the defense.

Felicia

November 16th, 2009
9:35 am

Three stupid moves: 2 pont conversion – come on coach really – it was too early for that
Long pass in the 4th – coach you add ample time – what were you thinking
Last – Elam please – dude you are screwing up

I could care less up the Falcons are playing – it’s about heart. Get it done fellows.

midnite

November 16th, 2009
9:36 am

If nothing else, please Falcons break that damned no back to back winning seasons curse this year. That’s all I’m asking for right now.

#2 Hater

November 16th, 2009
9:39 am

Noodle + Arm = Matt Ryan

Fat Ryan

November 16th, 2009
9:57 am

I agree with your 3rd point. Abraham has been ineffective…Jamal Anderson, what is it exactly that you do? Tye Hill UGGGHHH…NO. He’d be better off playing flag football. Leave Grimes in at CB. We just got to get better at defense…no pass rush = plenty of time to throw. Snelling was some good news…that guy just want to play.

T.C

November 16th, 2009
10:00 am

Why is everybody blaming the falcons beatdowns on a tough schedule? Last i checked there an NFL team too who plays NFL teams.I said it once and ill say it again,the sorry falcons is this team since 1966 that gets your hopes up for you to bragg on them then make you look stupid to who ever you where bragging on them to.Sorry team and definately sorry fans.

Decatur Native

November 16th, 2009
10:07 am

The loses don’t take away from us being a good team, these are things that happen to any team, the response it the factor, how they man up and bounce back, but I truly feel that at full strength we would be a lot better, what if we had Douglass streaching the feld ALL year, and we never lost Jerry in the middle, I think those two units alone would be playing great, the only problem I see that worries is staying with the play calling that is working at the time.

San

November 16th, 2009
10:12 am

Blame yourselves for the “egg on your face” regarding Matt Ryan…..it was YOU, who crowned Matt Ryan the next Joe Montanna! At the beginning of the season many of you said Ryan and this offense would average 30 points a gain…..so STOP with the excuses!

Troy

November 16th, 2009
10:14 am

Stop blaming the defense…..the falcons hasn’t had a decent defense since they went to the superbowl.

FALCONS SORRY

November 16th, 2009
10:16 am

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James of Ball Ground

November 16th, 2009
10:18 am

I am a Falcon fan and have been since they first arrived many moons ago.Altho I was dissappointed yesterday I still have faith.I think Matt Ryan will get better.I do think “Ron” has a good point about Harrington .Its kinda like a puppy that gets beaten and for the rest of his life he cowers.I dont think Matt has been beaten enough yet to taint the rest of his carear but It could come at any time.The way the team played yesterday we will have a hard time getting past break even this year.Forget about playoffs.We do not deserve to go.The main reason I am writing is to garner support on getting those dork head announcers off of the television.I gotta tell you that one guy deserves to have his smarmy butt wipped.Did Mike smith beat his butt or something?

guy Wilson

November 16th, 2009
10:19 am

Falcons made some bad decissions Sunday. They played into panthers hands and when you add hurt to the mix they lost. Matt is a good qback and will be a great qback in a few years. Tell me which qback of the great ones playing today is in his 2nd year? Our offensive line is not giveing Matt enough time/ our running game is not the same al last year. Turner is great but no back today in the league can carry his team on his own. That said we need to remind ourselves that injury changes all teams, we will recover. I also remember how it was just a few years ago when Atlanta was a victory for all other teams. Those of you who think they remember “Vick” should take notice of what he is doing today. He’s not the same and never will be! Now the falcons need to heal their wounded and go to work doing what they were built to do.

falconian

November 16th, 2009
10:22 am

Jerious Norwood needs to get his little girl butt back on the field. I think the problems the Falcons are having right now, even affecting the offense, is we can’t get to the QB. I am starting to question the toughness of the players on this team. No one from the 2009 draft is playing right now…they are all holding hands on the sidelines right now. It would be nice to maybe take into account in next years draft to get some guys that want to play football and not draft a bunch of tampons.

James of Ball Ground

November 16th, 2009
10:23 am

And for all the M Vick fans let me say that even if Matt Ryan threw a thousand interceptions every game I would still spit on Vick and his sorry ass.If he came to my door he would get shot and hanged and electrocuted and whatever else that sorry piece of trash did.

Willie

November 16th, 2009
10:26 am

Our top receivers are getting bracketed. The Patriots showed everyone how effective that is. Ryan hasn’t developed the touch to drop a pass in, and the receivers aren’t creating enough lateral separation. Some people say Matt’s the next Peyton Manning (I don’t know about that) but it took Peyton Manning a few years to become Peyton Manning. Patience my friends.

Our cornerback play is less than acceptable, and something I hope we address in the offseason. We were so-so until the injury bug bit. I like Grimes effort, but he’s too small. Houston is improving, but we have no depth.

Thomas DeCoud has been a great surprise. Who knew he was going to step his game up to this level so quickly?

Everyone who expected a Superbowl in the second year was overreaching. We’re at least a couple more seasons from greatness. Two more drafts and free agents to fill holes, and we may be there. I have confidence in this management team and coaching staff. I’ve been waiting since 1966. Patience isn’t an issue.

Manny

November 16th, 2009
10:27 am

Let me clarify my above statement concerning Matt Ryan: Matt Ryan has football intelligence. He’s very smart and he plays smart. The problem with Ryan is the same problem that he had since college. He is skiddish. If you get to him early, his composure breaks down and he gets nervous back there.

A lot of QBs are like that. Mike Vick was like that. He still is. He gets nervous in the pocket. He doesn’t trust the protection enough to make accurate passes. But Mike Vick can (maybe still) run and run well enough to compensate. Matt Ryan doesn’t have that luxury.

Now let me tell you some possible inside-the-locker room stuff that you should look out for:

The O-line LOVES Michael Turner! It has been quoted as such. And I watched how much the O-Line respects and would probably do anything for Turner. The reason why is because they know that Turner trusts them. That sort of bond is huge for a team.

But if Matt Ryan looks nervous in the pocket on film, what message does that gives the O-line? See what I mean?

Matt Ryan needs to show confidence in the pocket and make accurate passes for more than just stats. When he shows that confidence, the O-line will actually block better. If not, there can be a spiralling of confidence in the offense.

KarenJill

November 16th, 2009
10:27 am

I’m with Todd-Dacula. I don’t dislike Matt Ryan at QB and I think he will settle down and improve over time, but MV7 had more all around weapons to worry the beJesus out of defenses and mess them up. Mike would still be here if Arthur Blank had not hung him out to dry fix his salary cap issues and the NFL Suits had not sold him down the river to appease PETA. God don’t like ugly …

Falcons Offense and Coaches, repeat after me – we must convert on 3rd and 1, we must convert on 4th and 1 …

Stop whining about offensive injuries – if I’m not mistaken, every man on the team is an NFL player and is receiving NFL pay, so man up and play NFL ball regardless of your spot on the roster !!

Elliot Garcia

November 16th, 2009
10:29 am

The Falcons might be just as sorry as the Dawgs after all….

wmatlanta

November 16th, 2009
10:32 am

No one said anything when Ryan and Elam came through to steal one from Chicago last year. This game is NFL Karma evening things out :) We’ll be fine in the long run with Ryan.

Ballwood

November 16th, 2009
10:33 am

Reasons for the loss:

1. Matt Ryan is scared in the pocket. You can name a 1,000 reasons why Ryan isn’t performing and doesn’t mean squat because he is scared.

2. Two points attempt

3. Not using TE to stretch the field especially against the Cover 2. The OC did an excellent job in calling plays last year now he is too predictable.

4. No blitz

James

November 16th, 2009
10:33 am

This may sound like a drastic measure, but why not insert Chris Redman as the starter? He played well at the end of 2007 and seems to be a good decision maker who does not get easily rattled. This could serve another purpose in that it may light a fire under Matt Ryan.

Fat Ryan

November 16th, 2009
10:35 am

I agree with you falconian, we have too many man-ginas on the sideline. What the crap is this William Moore guy doing with himself? I thought he was supposed to be a stud? We have not got anything from this past draft…get me some guys who want to play 16+ games!

welikebaseball2

November 16th, 2009
10:35 am

Amazing how you guys ripped every other franchise QB we had for poor play, 2nd year or not. But Ryan seems to get the “it’s his 2nd year” pass. Wow. There’s a thick line between realism backed by hard facts & delusion backed by personal preference/bias. Ryan is a mere shadow of the “smart/accurate” QB the masses labelled him to be. Don’t get it twisted, I’m a diehard Falcons fan…always have & always will be…and I hope Ryan pulls out of this slump. Guess I’m simply yearning for an objective take on our problem at the QB position (among others). Then again, have these blogs ever really been filled with objectivity regarding our QB’s…no matter who they’ve been?

humble(1)

November 16th, 2009
10:35 am

San, we are averaging 24.6 pts per game which is 11th best in the league. So “their” not to far off. I can’t help but feel that a lot, not all, but a lot of the Ryan haters are Vick fans. Guest a guess. And lets not forget that our starting LT was out yesterday. Ryan was under constant duress all day. I’m not giving the guy a pass, he has not played up to the level we all expected him to.

I also think that Coach Smith had a bad day. The 2 pt conversion and the challenge were the mark of a 2nd year head coach. Everybody just needs to remember that this is still a VERY young team in all areas and a work in progress.

Ballwood

November 16th, 2009
10:40 am

Oh and the challenge by Coach was stupid at best.

All I'm Saying Is...

November 16th, 2009
10:40 am

Bottom line for me, despite everything, is that if Elam makes the kick, the outcome is probably different and we would be discussing how Ryan got his groove back in the second half and how we all hope that carries over to the Giants game. So, D. Orlando, we need you to find out the truth about what happened and why the snap count wasn’t communicated clearly to the one guy that had to know which was Elam.

Next, Ryan hasn’t played well for four games now and we all need to acknowledge it and stop making excuses such as blaming his troubles on other things —originally, it was because of the offensive line, then it was because of Turner not running well, etc. The kid (and he’s still a kid) has some serious problems that need to be corrected. If he’s sailing his throws, then he needs to work on his footwork and setting his feet before making his throw. If he’s locking in on Tony G. , then maybe we should try not having Tony G. in there on some obvious passing downs and go five wide or changing the play selection (like we did a better job of in the second half).

We all knew going into the season that we were vulnerable in the secondary. The Falcons brain trust elected not to sign the one solid corner we had and let him walk to the Ravens and we continue to pay for that financially short-sighted decision. Grimes may be a hard worker and good tackler but his physical deficiencies make him a liability as long as he plays corner and as long as he plays corner, he will be a marked man—-I know I would target him every time he was in man coverage if I were calling plays for the other team. So we have two options: figure out a way to get a better pass rush even on quick pass plays (zone blitz, Rex Ryan when he was Ravens d-coordinator type creative blitzing, etc.) or get some help in the d-back space by signing more out of work free agents and bringing them in to take a look as it certainly can’t hurt (assuming there is someone out there with some size even if their technique needs work).

Stop looking for excuses: we’re struggling and its not because of the schedule or because Meangelo didn’t get fined or some other line of bull.

Our GM made some decisions that are hurting us (see not signing our one solid corner), our coaches made some very questionable decisions against Carolina, and our QB hasn’t played well in four games really putting stress on an already vulnerable defense.

Going forward, pray that Michael Turner can play this Sunday and that Norwood can return to action too. The best way to solve whatever problems Ryan has is to max out the running attack and turn him back into a play action quarterback. We can beat the Giants (they didn’t lose four in a row for no reason), Philly is not undefeated so we know they can be had (goodness, Philly lost to Oakland—need I say more) and we can knock off the Saints at home with the support of a sold out Dome.

[And in case some of you are wondering why some people keep posting about MV7, its because (a) we have to play Philly this season, (b) MV7 was the starter the last time we won a playoff game, and (c) MV7 always got the blame when we lost, something that has been strangely absent with respect to Ryan.]

LET’S GO FALCONS!

welikebaseball2

November 16th, 2009
10:40 am

wmatlanta: Are you serious? We’ve been collectively singing Ryan’s praises before AND after the Chicago game last year. Please don’t make him out to be the kid getting dumped on & never praised. That couldn’t be further from the truth. No matter how he played last year, or even earlier this year, that doesn’t change the fact that he’s turned the ball over at an alarming these past 4 games or so. That doesn’t change the fact that he’s making horrible decisions NOW.

Sam

November 16th, 2009
10:42 am

Matt Ryan is having his “rookie year” this year.