BLOGCATIONVILLE — Headed for that last blog-cation before the season starts. Needed to get a few things for you all to nimble on.
Not everyone is predicting greatness for the Falcons in 2009.
The folks over at Football Outsiders Almanac 2009, are predicting more doom and gloom. In their eyes, the streak will reach 44 seasons. There will be no playoffs and someone’s pet is probably going to die.
In the publications’ eight page analysis of the Falcons, Rob Weintraub, a local free lancer and TV production worker, points out that over the last 30 years, 17 teams have improved by seven games — including the Falcons and Miami last season — but only the 1998 Jets under Duane Charles Parcells (some folks call him Bill) have improved the next season.
Those other 14 teams, wins decrease by an average for four. That would put the Falcons at 7-9 in 2009.
“Every other team has come back to the pack for various reasons,” Weintraub said. “It’s the NFL, parity rules.”
Part of the Falcons summary reads, “2009: That bar is set much higher, and the team is weighted down by almost certain regression.”
Here’s how they see the Falcons coming back to the pack:
THE DECLINE IN HEALTH: “The more statistical things that we’ve gone through point to injuries. The Falcons were a very healthy team last year. They were fifth-best in terms of our stats: man-games-missed by their starters.
“We found that there is no correlation from year-to-year. Teams that stay healthy for one year don’t necessarily stay healthy the next year. In fact, teams will go backwards in that category.
“If you just have a couple of injuries to a couple of linemen, that could be overcome. Now, if Matt Ryan goes down in the second weak of the season, then the whole thing falls apart. There is a great deal of fortune involved.”
Falcons fans have been there. Check 1999, injuries to Jamal “Jam” Anderson not Jamaal “Sackmaster” Anderson and to Chris Chandler the year after going 14-2 and reaching the Super Bowl. That team went 5-11.
THE SCHEDULE: The Falcons don’t have the AFC West and the NFC Central to kick around. They have the AFC East and NFC East.
“The schedule is significantly more difficult,” Weintraub said.
THE CURSE OF 370: The Outsiders have come up with this “Curse of 370” notion.
Here’s how that works, only one running back – Eric Dickerson – has managed to stare down the Curse.
“Any running back who carries 370 times or more in a single season, there is a significant dropoff or injury the next season,” Weintraub said. “Eric Dickerson is the only guy who’s beat that.”
Micheal Turner had 394 carries for 1,742 yards in 17 games last season.
“You are talking about a very high probability that he’s going to experience a significant (dropoff) this year,” Weintraub said. “Now, it would behoove the Falcons greatly to ease off on his carries. They have Jerious Norwood, whom we love as a back.
“If they can establish a real combination back there, that could definitely offset some of the projected decline in Turner’s numbers.”
The great Dickerson went for 1,808 yards on 390 carries in 1983. He followed that up with 2,105 yards on 379 carries in 1984.
In 1988, Dickerson had 388 carries for 1,659 yards and in 1989 he had 1,311 yards on 314 carries.
Sadly, he was worn out at age 29. By the time he got to the Falcons in 1993, Dickerson could only muster 91 yards on 26 carries.
THE X- FACTOR: The Outsiders don’t know what to do with the addition of tight end Tony Gonzalez.
“We’ve never really had a projection to account for adding a hall of fame tight end, when your biggest need is tight end,” Weintraub said. “It’s obviously a plus, assuming he stays healthy and stays at the level he’s been at.
“He’s also defied all kinds of logic and projections that we’ve done. Our numbers have said they he was going to fall off for the last three years and he hasn’t. That’s a testimony to what a great all-time great player that he is.”
CAN RYAN WIN SHOOT OUTS?: The Outsiders ranks Ryan’s rookie season as the finest of any quarterback since the 1970 AFL-NFL merger.
“They may have to beat teams 35-31 every week,” Weintraub said. “That’s not a sustainable way to go to the playoffs. Now, it can be done, but I think they’ll need a better plan of attack.”
THE DEFENSE: In their regression analysis, more than 100 variables were looked at for each team. They had to consider the ensuing upheaval with replacing five starters on the defense.
“These guys could step up and play lights out,” Weintraub said. “Stephen Nicholas could turn out to be a Pro Bowl linebacker, we’ll see. But the trend over the last 15 years with teams putting (five or more) starters who have played so little into their starting defense, doesn’t bode well.”
CAVEAT: They still have to play the games.
“We projected the Falcons not to be good last year,” Weintraub said. “But (Matt Ryan) significantly out performed the trends. Surely, that can happen again. We certainly acknowledge that there are times when players step up and become superstars.”
IN SUMMATION: A lot has to happen for the Falcons to end that 43-year streak of never posting back-to-back winning seasons.
“Overall, they have a lot of trends, anchoring them and weighing them back to the pack this year,” Weintraub said. “Right now the numbers say they are going to take a step back.”
You can get the Football Outsiders Almanac 2009 off their website: www.footballoutsiders.com and print-on-demand copies from Amazon.com in late July.
D.LED’S UNOFFICIAL/BOOTLEG DEPTH CHART

MISS KERI BABY: Falcons need to line up Decatur's Keri Hilson to do the National Anthem to open the season.
Before we get to the depth chart, here are three campers to keep an eye on:
Rashad Bobino, Linebacker, 5-11, 230: Was a big thumper at middle linebacker for the Texas Longhorns. Made the Big 12 team three times. Check out his pro day workout.
Ryan Stanchek, Guard, 6-3, 305: Was a four-year starter at West Virginia. Was all-Big East in 2006 and 2008. Played left tackle in college. Got snubbed by the coaches in the all-conference voting last season.
Thomas Johnson, Defensive tackle, 6-2, 305: His name keeps popping up. Has been with three teams since coming out of Middle Tennessee in 2005. He hasn’t been able to stick with Dallas, Houston or the New York Jets. He made three starts with Houston in 2006.
THE DEPTH CHART
QUARTERBACK: Starter — Matt Ryan. Backups – 2. Chris Redman, 3. D.J. Shockley, and 4. John Parker Wilson.
RUNNING BACK: Starters — Michael Turner and Ovie Mughelli. Backups – 1. Jerious Norwood, 2. Jason Snelling, 3. Thomas Brown and 4. Verron Haynes.
WIDE RECEIVERS: Starters – Roddy White and Michael Jenkins. Backups – 1. Harry Douglas, 2. Brian Finneran, 3. Eric Weems, 4. Troy Bergeron, 5. Chandler Williams, 6. Aaron Kelly, 7. Darren Mougey and 8. Bradon Godfrey.
TIGHT ENDS: Starter – Tony Gonzalez. Backups – 1. Ben Hartsock, 2. Justin Peelle, 3. Keith Zinger and 4. Jason Rader.
OFFENSIVE LINE: Starters – LT Sam Baker, LG Justin Blalock, C Todd McClure, RG Harvey Dahl, RT Tyson Clabo. Backups – Center – 1. Brett Romberg, 2. Ben Wilkerson.
Guards – 1. Jeremy Newberry, 2. Romberg, 3. Wilkerson, 4. Ryan Stanchek, 5. Jose Valez.
Tackles – 1. Will Svitek, 2. Quinn Ojinnaka, 3. Garrent Reynolds, 4. Michael Butterworth.
DEFENSIVE LINE: Starters – RDE John Abraham, RT Peria Jerry, LT Jonathan Babineaux, LDE Chauncey Davis.
Backups DE – 1. Jamaal Anderson, 2. Kroy Biermann, 3. Lawrence Sidbury, 4. Willie Evans and 5. Maurice Lucas. DT – 1. Jamaal Anderson, 2. Trey Lewis, 3. Jason Jefferson, 4. Thomas Johnson, 5. Vance Walker, 6. Tywain Myles
LINEBACKERS: Starters – WLB Michael Peterson, MLB Curtis Lofton, SLB Stephen Nicholas. Backups: 1. Coy Wire, 2. Edmond Miles, 3. Tony Gilbert, 4. Spencer Adkins, 5. Robert James, and 6. Rashad Bobino.
DEFENSIVE BACKS: LCB – Chris Owens, FS – Erik Coleman, SS – William Moore, RCB – Chris Houston. Backups – CB – 1. Chevis Jackson, 2. Brent Grimes, 3. William Middleton, 4. Von Hutchins, 5. David Irons (injured), 6. Glenn Sharpe, 7. Tony Tiller. S – 1. Thomas DeCoud, 2. Jamaal Fudge, 3. Antoine Harris, 4. Eric Brock.
SPECIAL TEAMS – KR – 1. Jerious Norwood, 2. Thomas Brown. PR – 1. Harry Douglas, 2. Brian Finneran. P – Michael Koenen. PK Jason Elam. LS – Mike Schneck.
The Countdown to Training Camp is winding down!
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D3
July 22nd, 2009
9:26 am
Its hard for me to even post anymore, because the Blog Dragon is on my @—!
Nookah – That was a pretty even assessment on our Falcons for this year, but to say we don’t have any playmakers on defense is pretty ridiculous. We added Peria Jerry, William Moore, Chris Owens, and Mike Peterson; not to mention a healthy Trey Lewis and Stephen Nicholas getting his shot. I don’t think we’re that far away from where NY Giants were when they made a “deep” run to win the Super Bowl.
jason – I agree with you that I think we’re one year away as well. This year should really tell us something about our “process”, but I wouldn’t totally discount a shot because once you get hot in the playoffs its anybody’s ball game(Pittsburgh-2006;NY Giants-2007;Arizona-2008). On MS/KM, I just never got the same feeling that it bothered either one of them when we got beat and never showed that leadership that I say from so many of our other guys, from Boss Bailey and Thomas Davis to David Greene and Terrance Edwards. Part of it was Richt’s fault for allowing the “superstar”-dom to take over the team. Just for instance, when Moreno would make a big run or score a TD he would just dance and act like it was party. Shut the H—- up and play football! MS acted he was in left field half the time and never showed that killer instinct. Name Stafford’s marquee game as a Dawg? Anyway, I wish them the best, but glad we’ve turned over a new leaf. All your talk of NCAA 2010 makes me yearn for the new Madden, and why does it come out so late. It should be coming out Aug.1st, IMO.
Seminole – Good point. We were already ranked 24th in Total DEF last year. I would argue that it would take quite a bit to get WORSE. As Coach Ken mentioned, its hard to see that with all the competition, athleticism, speed, and toughness that occurs.
D3
July 22nd, 2009
9:26 am
Attempt #2
Nookah – That was a pretty even assessment on our Falcons for this year, but to say we don’t have any playmakers on defense is pretty ridiculous. We added Peria Jerry, William Moore, Chris Owens, and Mike Peterson; not to mention a healthy Trey Lewis and Stephen Nicholas getting his shot. I don’t think we’re that far away from where NY Giants were when they made a “deep” run to win the Super Bowl.
jason – I agree with you that I think we’re one year away as well. This year should really tell us something about our “process”, but I wouldn’t totally discount a shot because once you get hot in the playoffs its anybody’s ball game(Pittsburgh-2006;NY Giants-2007;Arizona-2008). On MS/KM, I just never got the same feeling that it bothered either one of them when we got beat and never showed that leadership that I say from so many of our other guys, from Boss Bailey and Thomas Davis to David Greene and Terrance Edwards. Part of it was Richt’s fault for allowing the “superstar”-dom to take over the team. Just for instance, when Moreno would make a big run or score a TD he would just dance and act like it was party. Shut the H—- up and play football! MS acted he was in left field half the time and never showed that killer instinct. Name Stafford’s marquee game as a Dawg? Anyway, I wish them the best, but glad we’ve turned over a new leaf. All your talk of NCAA 2010 makes me yearn for the new Madden, and why does it come out so late. It should be coming out Aug.1st, IMO.
Seminole – Good point. We were already ranked 24th in Total DEF last year. I would argue that it would take quite a bit to get WORSE. As Coach Ken mentioned, its hard to see that with all the competition, athleticism, speed, and toughness that occurs.
D3
July 22nd, 2009
9:28 am
C’mon…………what is the deal? Over the past two days I probably am getting only half of my posts through. Its about to force me on a ‘Cage hiatus.
Nookah – That was a pretty even assessment on our Falcons for this year, but to say we don’t have any playmakers on defense is pretty ridiculous. We added Peria Jerry, William Moore, Chris Owens, and Mike Peterson; not to mention a healthy Trey Lewis and Stephen Nicholas getting his chance. I don’t think we’re that far away from where NY Giants were when they made a “deep” run to win the Super Bowl.
jason – I agree with you that I think we’re one year away as well. This year should really tell us something about our “process”, but I wouldn’t totally discount a shot because once you get hot in the playoffs its anybody’s ball game(Pittsburgh-2006;NY Giants-2007;Arizona-2008). On MS/KM, I just never got the same feeling that it bothered either one of them when we got beat and never showed that leadership that I say from so many of our other guys, from Boss Bailey and Thomas Davis to David Greene and Terrance Edwards. Part of it was Richt’s fault for allowing the “superstar”-dom to take over the team. Just for instance, when Moreno would make a big run or score a TD he would just dance and act like it was party. Shut the H—- up and play football! MS acted he was in left field half the time and never showed that killer instinct. Name Stafford’s marquee game as a Dawg? Anyway, I wish them the best, but glad we’ve turned over a new leaf. All your talk of NCAA 2010 makes me yearn for the new Madden, and why does it come out so late. It should be coming out Aug.1st, IMO.
Seminole – Good point. We were already ranked 24th in Total DEF last year. I would argue that it would take quite a bit to get WORSE. As Coach Ken mentioned, its hard to see that with all the competition, athleticism, speed, and toughness that occurs.
D3
July 22nd, 2009
9:29 am
C’mon…………what is the deal? Over the past two days I probably am getting only half of my posts through. Its about to force me on a ‘Cage hiatus.
Nookah – That was a pretty even assessment on our Falcons for this year, but to say we don’t have any playmakers on defense is pretty ridiculous. We added Peria Jerry, William Moore, Chris Owens, and Mike Peterson; not to mention a healthy Trey Lewis and Stephen Nicholas getting his chance. I don’t think we’re that far away from where NY Giants were when they made a “deep” run to win the Super Bowl.
D3
July 22nd, 2009
9:29 am
jason – I agree with you that I think we’re one year away as well. This year should really tell us something about our “process”, but I wouldn’t totally discount a shot because once you get hot in the playoffs its anybody’s ball game(Pittsburgh-2006;NY Giants-2007;Arizona-2008). On MS/KM, I just never got the same feeling that it bothered either one of them when we got beat and never showed that leadership that I say from so many of our other guys, from Boss Bailey and Thomas Davis to David Greene and Terrance Edwards. Part of it was Richt’s fault for allowing the “superstar”-dom to take over the team. Just for instance, when Moreno would make a big run or score a TD he would just dance and act like it was party. Shut the H—- up and play football! MS acted he was in left field half the time and never showed that killer instinct. Name Stafford’s marquee game as a Dawg? Anyway, I wish them the best, but glad we’ve turned over a new leaf. All your talk of NCAA 2010 makes me yearn for the new Madden, and why does it come out so late. It should be coming out Aug.1st, IMO.
Seminole – Good point. We were already ranked 24th in Total DEF last year. I would argue that it would take quite a bit to get WORSE. As Coach Ken mentioned, its hard to see that with all the competition, athleticism, speed, and toughness that occurs
CBrass
July 22nd, 2009
9:47 am
Seminole Warrior,
Good to hear. I can tell this is going to be a very long day.
D3,
I really can’t name Stafford’s marquee game. Guessing by marquee game you mean putting up not only good numbers but showing that killer instinct and being a great leader. Sorry to say but he didn’t have the latter two his entire time he was here. Neither did Moreno. Both were very talented there’s no deny that, but they were only concerned with their stats. I guess that’s why Stafford’s nickname was Stats…makes alot of sense.
Juice
July 22nd, 2009
9:47 am
Morning folks. Yall been busy huh? Thanks for the tribute earlier Nookah. There are almost a thousand comments on here.
I say we can make it deep into the playoffs if our young defense plays up to its athletic potential. They’re gonna make mistakes, but can they make the plays when it counts? Will JA55 stay healthy and have another good season? Will JA98 have a breakout year? Will Peria Jerry play like he did in college, and stay healthy? Who will start in the secondary? Do they have what it takes to face the elite receivers we’re facing this year? A lot of questions. I can only trust what our staff does. I also wanted to note one thing about our team. Dimitroff and Smith have put together not only a team of talent, but one with morals and drive. Everyone they’ve got has a positive, respectful attitude and heart for the game. This is paramount.
Unca' Bob
July 22nd, 2009
10:12 am
Caqer’s,
We do have a brutal shedule this season. I am of the opinion, what does not kill you can only make you stronger. We will not only survive, we shall thrive.
jason
July 22nd, 2009
10:14 am
SeminoleWarrior, I think Mularkey will do what he wants to do. He is a NFL vet. The 2 I am worried about is Musgrave and BVG. Musgrave has an outstanding young Offensive mind, and he also is a guru in handling young QBs. As for BVG, He has gotten a bad rep the past couple of years. He is ambitious and looking for the best thing (rung on the ladder). He laft UGA to HC at GA South, then burn them to go to the NFL, and back to USCeast to not even coach one game and then back to the NFL. That is the two Coaches I would be worried about leaving.
jason
July 22nd, 2009
10:25 am
The strength of schedule does not concern me. It is the youth of the defense, and not mistakes they will come and the D will learn and get better each week. I guess the tough schedule will be a factor in that the young D will hit that WALL. I am not saying that they can’t get hot and win a Super Bowl, but realisticly year three is the year that we will be set for the SB, and set for dudtaing success.
D3, MS never had that signature game that showed he was a leader. As for stat, look at last year’s Teach game, and notice the int that killed us and the big L at the end. KM did have that great game against UF 2 years ago, ran for like 185-190, but that is the only real game of note. It was also against an almost all Frosh UF D.
D3
July 22nd, 2009
10:25 am
Nookah’s article he posted got me thinking about not being able to make a “deep run” in the playoffs as it said, so let’s compare shall we:
2007 New York Giants vs 2009 Atlanta Falcons
Offense
QB: Eli Manning – Matt Ryan
RB: Brandon Jacobs – Michael Turner
RB2: Derrick Ward – Jerious Norwood
TE: Jeremy Shockey/Kevin Boss – Tony Gonzalez
WR: Plaxico Burress – Roddy White
WR2: Amani Toomer – Michael Jenkins
Slot: Sinorice Moss – Harry Douglas
LT: David Diehl – Sam Baker
LG: Rich Seubert – Justin Blaylock
C: Shaun O’Hara – Todd McClure
RG: Chris Snee – Harvey Dahl
RT: Kareem McKenzie – Tyson Clabo
FB: Madison Hedgecock – Ovie Mughelli
Defense
DE: Michael Strahan – John Abraham
DT: Barry Cofield – Jonathan Babineaux
DT: Fred Robbins – Peria Jerry
DE: Osi Umeniyora – Jamaal Anderson
MLB: Antonio Pierce – Curtis Lofton
OLB: Mathias Kiwanuka – Mike Peterson
OLB: Kawika Mitchell – Stephen Nicholas
CB: Sam Madison – Chris Houston
CB: Aaron Ross – Chevis Jackson/Chris Owens
Nickel: RW McQuarters – Brent Grimes/Chris Owens
FS: Gibril Wilson – Erik Coleman
SS: James Butler – William Moore/Thomas DeCoud
Obviously, it’s easy to sit here and compare teams at the beginning of the season and say they were close in personnel and that it is very subjective at best because it doesn’t count schedule, locker room, coaching staffs, key plays, etc. but it at least deserves looking at since many think that our defense will be too inexperienced to make a deep playoff run.
Their defensive line may have been a little more experienced and they certainly have a better pair of DEnds than we do currently, but this was Osi’s big breakout year opposite Strahan. Their DT’s were solid but nothing spectacular. Their LB corps certainly doesn’t strike fear on paper alone. Pierce was a stud, but Kawika Mitchell and Mathias Kiwanuka? Secondary had Sam Madison, but the other guys were fairly unknowns and Aaron Ross was only in his first couple of years.
With these predictions, it gets to a point of saturation where all the prognostications are trying to be different and find an alternate angle that other publications don’t have. Which is why you have the Dwight Schrute Football Experts, I mean the Football Outsiders, that pick a different area of the market to fill and thus make money. Although this prediction is pretty fair, but some points are ridiculous.
D3
July 22nd, 2009
10:26 am
Attempt #4
Nookah’s article he posted got me thinking about not being able to make a “deep run” in the playoffs as it said, so let’s compare shall we:
2007 New York Giants vs 2009 Atlanta Falcons
Offense
QB: Eli Manning – Matt Ryan
RB: Brandon Jacobs – Michael Turner
RB2: Derrick Ward – Jerious Norwood
TE: Jeremy Shockey/Kevin Boss – Tony Gonzalez
WR: Plaxico Burress – Roddy White
WR2: Amani Toomer – Michael Jenkins
Slot: Sinorice Moss – Harry Douglas
LT: David Diehl – Sam Baker
LG: Rich Seubert – Justin Blaylock
C: Shaun O’Hara – Todd McClure
RG: Chris Snee – Harvey Dahl
RT: Kareem McKenzie – Tyson Clabo
FB: Madison Hedgecock – Ovie Mughelli
Defense
DE: Michael Strahan – John Abraham
DT: Barry Cofield – Jonathan Babineaux
DT: Fred Robbins – Peria Jerry
DE: Osi Umeniyora – Jamaal Anderson
MLB: Antonio Pierce – Curtis Lofton
OLB: Mathias Kiwanuka – Mike Peterson
OLB: Kawika Mitchell – Stephen Nicholas
CB: Sam Madison – Chris Houston
CB: Aaron Ross – Chevis Jackson/Chris Owens
Nickel: RW McQuarters – Brent Grimes/Chris Owens
FS: Gibril Wilson – Erik Coleman
SS: James Butler – William Moore/Thomas DeCoud
Obviously, it’s easy to sit here and compare teams at the beginning of the season and say they were close in personnel and that it is very subjective at best because it doesn’t count schedule, locker room, coaching staffs, key plays, etc. but it at least deserves looking at since many think that our defense will be too inexperienced to make a deep playoff run.
Their defensive line may have been a little more experienced and they certainly have a better pair of DEnds than we do currently, but this was Osi’s big breakout year opposite Strahan. Their DT’s were solid but nothing spectacular. Their LB corps certainly doesn’t strike fear on paper alone. Pierce was a stud, but Kawika Mitchell and Mathias Kiwanuka? Secondary had Sam Madison, but the other guys were fairly unknowns and Aaron Ross was only in his first couple of years.
With these predictions, it gets to a point of saturation where all the prognostications are trying to be different and find an alternate angle that other publications don’t have. Which is why you have the Dwight Schrute Football Experts, I mean the Football Outsiders, that pick a different area of the market to fill and thus make money. Although this prediction is pretty fair, but some points are ridiculous.
D3
July 22nd, 2009
10:27 am
Nookah’s article he posted got me thinking about not being able to make a “deep run” in the playoffs as it said, so let’s compare shall we:
2007 New York Giants vs 2009 Atlanta Falcons
Offense
QB: Eli Manning – Matt Ryan
RB: Brandon Jacobs – Michael Turner
RB2: Derrick Ward – Jerious Norwood
TE: Jeremy Shockey/Kevin Boss – Tony Gonzalez
WR: Plaxico Burress – Roddy White
WR2: Amani Toomer – Michael Jenkins
Slot: Sinorice Moss – Harry Douglas
LT: David Diehl – Sam Baker
LG: Rich Seubert – Justin Blaylock
C: Shaun O’Hara – Todd McClure
RG: Chris Snee – Harvey Dahl
RT: Kareem McKenzie – Tyson Clabo
FB: Madison Hedgecock – Ovie Mughelli
Defense
DE: Michael Strahan – John Abraham
DT: Barry Cofield – Jonathan Babineaux
DT: Fred Robbins – Peria Jerry
DE: Osi Umeniyora – Jamaal Anderson
MLB: Antonio Pierce – Curtis Lofton
OLB: Mathias Kiwanuka – Mike Peterson
OLB: Kawika Mitchell – Stephen Nicholas
CB: Sam Madison – Chris Houston
CB: Aaron Ross – Chevis Jackson/Chris Owens
Nickel: RW McQuarters – Brent Grimes/Chris Owens
FS: Gibril Wilson – Erik Coleman
SS: James Butler – William Moore/Thomas DeCoud
D3
July 22nd, 2009
10:28 am
Guys and gals, I hate to do it but I’m going to have to take a hiatus away from this crap.
I’ve had 6 posts eaten already today. I’m really tired of typing posts for 10 minutes and having it eaten. It’s about to make me have an embolism in my brain.
Try back later.
D3
July 22nd, 2009
10:29 am
Attempt #10
Nookah’s article he posted got me thinking about not being able to make a “deep run” in the playoffs as it said, so let’s compare shall we:
2007 New York Giants vs 2009 Atlanta Falcons
Offense
QB: Eli Manning – Matt Ryan
RB: Brandon Jacobs – Michael Turner
RB2: Derrick Ward – Jerious Norwood
TE: Jeremy Shockey/Kevin Boss – Tony Gonzalez
WR: Plaxico Burress – Roddy White
WR2: Amani Toomer – Michael Jenkins
Slot: Sinorice Moss – Harry Douglas
LT: David Diehl – Sam Baker
LG: Rich Seubert – Justin Blaylock
C: Shaun O’Hara – Todd McClure
RG: Chris Snee – Harvey Dahl
RT: Kareem McKenzie – Tyson Clabo
FB: Madison Hedgecock – Ovie Mughelli
Defense
DE: Michael Strahan – John Abraham
DT: Barry Cofield – Jonathan Babineaux
DT: Fred Robbins – Peria Jerry
DE: Osi Umeniyora – Jamaal Anderson
MLB: Antonio Pierce – Curtis Lofton
OLB: Mathias Kiwanuka – Mike Peterson
OLB: Kawika Mitchell – Stephen Nicholas
CB: Sam Madison – Chris Houston
CB: Aaron Ross – Chevis Jackson/Chris Owens
Nickel: RW McQuarters – Brent Grimes/Chris Owens
FS: Gibril Wilson – Erik Coleman
SS: James Butler – William Moore/Thomas DeCoud
Obviously, it’s easy to sit here and compare teams at the beginning of the season and say they were close in personnel and that it is very subjective at best because it doesn’t count schedule, locker room, coaching staffs, key plays, etc. but it at least deserves looking at since many think that our defense will be too inexperienced to make a deep playoff run.
Their defensive line may have been a little more experienced and they certainly have a better pair of DEnds than we do currently, but this was Osi’s big breakout year opposite Strahan. Their DT’s were solid but nothing spectacular. Their LB corps certainly doesn’t strike fear on paper alone. Pierce was a stud, but Kawika Mitchell and Mathias Kiwanuka? Secondary had Sam Madison, but the other guys were fairly unknowns and Aaron Ross was only in his first couple of years.
With these predictions, it gets to a point of saturation where all the prognostications are trying to be different and find an alternate angle that other publications don’t have. Which is why you have the Dwight Schrute Football Experts, I mean the Football Outsiders, that pick a different area of the market to fill and thus make money. Although this prediction is pretty fair, but some points are ridiculous.
D3
July 22nd, 2009
10:30 am
Attempt #12
Nookah’s article he posted got me thinking about not being able to make a “deep run” in the playoffs as it said, so let’s compare shall we:
2007 New York Giants vs 2009 Atlanta Falcons
Offense
QB: Eli Manning – Matt Ryan
RB: Brandon Jacobs – Michael Turner
RB2: Derrick Ward – Jerious Norwood
TE: Jeremy Shockey/Kevin Boss – Tony Gonzalez
WR: Plaxico Burress – Roddy White
WR2: Amani Toomer – Michael Jenkins
Slot: Sinorice Moss – Harry Douglas
LT: David Diehl – Sam Baker
LG: Rich Seubert – Justin Blaylock
C: Shaun O’Hara – Todd McClure
RG: Chris Snee – Harvey Dahl
RT: Kareem McKenzie – Tyson Clabo
FB: Madison Hedgecock – Ovie Mughelli
Defense
DE: Michael Strahan – John Abraham
DT: Barry Cofield – Jonathan Babineaux
DT: Fred Robbins – Peria Jerry
DE: Osi Umeniyora – Jamaal Anderson
MLB: Antonio Pierce – Curtis Lofton
OLB: Mathias Kiwanuka – Mike Peterson
OLB: Kawika Mitchell – Stephen Nicholas
CB: Sam Madison – Chris Houston
CB: Aaron Ross – Chevis Jackson/Chris Owens
Nickel: RW McQuarters – Brent Grimes/Chris Owens
FS: Gibril Wilson – Erik Coleman
SS: James Butler – William Moore/Thomas DeCoud
Obviously, it’s easy to sit here and compare teams at the beginning of the season and say they were close in personnel and that it is very subjective at best because it doesn’t count schedule, locker room, coaching staffs, key plays, etc. but it at least deserves looking at since many think that our defense will be too inexperienced to make a deep playoff run.
Their defensive line may have been a little more experienced and they certainly have a better pair of DEnds than we do currently, but this was Osi’s big breakout year opposite Strahan. Their DT’s were solid but nothing spectacular. Their LB corps certainly doesn’t strike fear on paper alone. Pierce was a stud, but Kawika Mitchell and Mathias Kiwanuka? Secondary had Sam Madison, but the other guys were fairly unknowns and Aaron Ross was only in his first couple of years.
With these predictions, it gets to a point of saturation where all the prognostications are trying to be different and find an alternate angle that other publications don’t have. Which is why you have the Dwight Schrute Football Experts, I mean the Football Outsiders, that pick a different area of the market to fill and thus make money. Although this prediction is pretty fair, but some points are ridiculous.
D3
July 22nd, 2009
10:30 am
Attempt #13
Nookah’s article he posted got me thinking about not being able to make a “deep run” in the playoffs as it said, so let’s compare shall we:
2007 New York Giants vs 2009 Atlanta Falcons
Offense
QB: Eli Manning – Matt Ryan
RB: Brandon Jacobs – Michael Turner
RB2: Derrick Ward – Jerious Norwood
TE: Jeremy Shockey/Kevin Boss – Tony Gonzalez
WR: Plaxico Burress – Roddy White
WR2: Amani Toomer – Michael Jenkins
Slot: Sinorice Moss – Harry Douglas
LT: David Diehl – Sam Baker
LG: Rich Seubert – Justin Blaylock
C: Shaun O’Hara – Todd McClure
RG: Chris Snee – Harvey Dahl
RT: Kareem McKenzie – Tyson Clabo
FB: Madison Hedgecock – Ovie Mughelli
Defense
DE: Michael Strahan – John Abraham
DT: Barry Cofield – Jonathan Babineaux
DT: Fred Robbins – Peria Jerry
DE: Osi Umeniyora – Jamaal Anderson
MLB: Antonio Pierce – Curtis Lofton
OLB: Mathias Kiwanuka – Mike Peterson
OLB: Kawika Mitchell – Stephen Nicholas
CB: Sam Madison – Chris Houston
CB: Aaron Ross – Chevis Jackson/Chris Owens
Nickel: RW McQuarters – Brent Grimes/Chris Owens
FS: Gibril Wilson – Erik Coleman
SS: James Butler – William Moore/Thomas DeCoud
Obviously, it’s easy to sit here and compare teams at the beginning of the season and say they were close in personnel and that it is very subjective at best because it doesn’t count schedule, locker room, coaching staffs, key plays, etc. but it at least deserves looking at since many think that our defense will be too inexperienced to make a deep playoff run.
Their defensive line may have been a little more experienced and they certainly have a better pair of DEnds than we do currently, but this was Osi’s big breakout year opposite Strahan. Their DT’s were solid but nothing spectacular. Their LB corps certainly doesn’t strike fear on paper alone. Pierce was a stud, but Kawika Mitchell and Mathias Kiwanuka? Secondary had Sam Madison, but the other guys were fairly unknowns and Aaron Ross was only in his first couple of years.
With these predictions, it gets to a point of saturation where all the prognostications are trying to be different and find an alternate angle that other publications don’t have. Which is why you have the Dwight Schrute Football Experts, I mean the Football Outsiders, that pick a different area of the market to fill and thus make money. Although this prediction is pretty fair, but some points are ridiculous.
D3
July 22nd, 2009
10:31 am
Attempt #14
Nookah’s article he posted got me thinking about not being able to make a “deep run” in the playoffs as it said, so let’s compare shall we:
2007 New York Giants vs 2009 Atlanta Falcons
Offense
QB: Eli Manning – Matt Ryan
RB: Brandon Jacobs – Michael Turner
RB2: Derrick Ward – Jerious Norwood
TE: Jeremy Shockey/Kevin Boss – Tony Gonzalez
WR: Plaxico Burress – Roddy White
WR2: Amani Toomer – Michael Jenkins
Slot: Sinorice Moss – Harry Douglas
LT: David Diehl – Sam Baker
LG: Rich Seubert – Justin Blaylock
C: Shaun O’Hara – Todd McClure
RG: Chris Snee – Harvey Dahl
RT: Kareem McKenzie – Tyson Clabo
FB: Madison Hedgecock – Ovie Mughelli
Defense
DE: Michael Strahan – John Abraham
DT: Barry Cofield – Jonathan Babineaux
DT: Fred Robbins – Peria Jerry
DE: Osi Umeniyora – Jamaal Anderson
MLB: Antonio Pierce – Curtis Lofton
OLB: Mathias Kiwanuka – Mike Peterson
OLB: Kawika Mitchell – Stephen Nicholas
CB: Sam Madison – Chris Houston
CB: Aaron Ross – Chevis Jackson/Chris Owens
Nickel: RW McQuarters – Brent Grimes/Chris Owens
FS: Gibril Wilson – Erik Coleman
SS: James Butler – William Moore/Thomas DeCoud
Obviously, it’s easy to sit here and compare teams at the beginning of the season and say they were close in personnel and that it is very subjective at best because it doesn’t count schedule, locker room, coaching staffs, key plays, etc. but it at least deserves looking at since many think that our defense will be too inexperienced to make a deep playoff run.
Their defensive line may have been a little more experienced and they certainly have a better pair of DEnds than we do currently, but this was Osi’s big breakout year opposite Strahan. Their DT’s were solid but nothing spectacular. Their LB corps certainly doesn’t strike fear on paper alone. Pierce was a stud, but Kawika Mitchell and Mathias Kiwanuka? Secondary had Sam Madison, but the other guys were fairly unknowns and Aaron Ross was only in his first couple of years.
With these predictions, it gets to a point of saturation where all the prognostications are trying to be different and find an alternate angle that other publications don’t have. Which is why you have the Dwight Schrute Football Experts, I mean the Football Outsiders, that pick a different area of the market to fill and thus make money. Although this prediction is pretty fair, but some points are ridiculous.
D3
July 22nd, 2009
10:32 am
Attempt #16
The article he posted got me thinking about not being able to make a “deep run” in the playoffs as it said, so let’s compare shall we:
2007 New York Giants vs 2009 Atlanta Falcons
Offense
QB: Eli Manning – Matt Ryan
RB: Brandon Jacobs – Michael Turner
RB2: Derrick Ward – Jerious Norwood
TE: Jeremy Shockey/Kevin Boss – Tony Gonzalez
WR: Plaxico Burress – Roddy White
WR2: Amani Toomer – Michael Jenkins
Slot: Sinorice Moss – Harry Douglas
LT: David Diehl – Sam Baker
LG: Rich Seubert – Justin Blaylock
C: Shaun O’Hara – Todd McClure
RG: Chris Snee – Harvey Dahl
RT: Kareem McKenzie – Tyson Clabo
FB: Madison Hedgecock – Ovie Mughelli
Defense
DE: Michael Strahan – John Abraham
DT: Barry Cofield – Jonathan Babineaux
DT: Fred Robbins – Peria Jerry
DE: Osi Umeniyora – Jamaal Anderson
MLB: Antonio Pierce – Curtis Lofton
OLB: Mathias Kiwanuka – Mike Peterson
OLB: Kawika Mitchell – Stephen Nicholas
CB: Sam Madison – Chris Houston
CB: Aaron Ross – Chevis Jackson/Chris Owens
Nickel: RW McQuarters – Brent Grimes/Chris Owens
FS: Gibril Wilson – Erik Coleman
SS: James Butler – William Moore/Thomas DeCoud
Obviously, it’s easy to sit here and compare teams at the beginning of the season and say they were close in personnel and that it is very subjective at best because it doesn’t count schedule, locker room, coaching staffs, key plays, etc. but it at least deserves looking at since many think that our defense will be too inexperienced to make a deep playoff run.
Their defensive line may have been a little more experienced and they certainly have a better pair of DEnds than we do currently, but this was Osi’s big breakout year opposite Strahan. Their DT’s were solid but nothing spectacular. Their LB corps certainly doesn’t strike fear on paper alone. Pierce was a stud, but Kawika Mitchell and Mathias Kiwanuka? Secondary had Sam Madison, but the other guys were fairly unknowns and Aaron Ross was only in his first couple of years.
With these predictions, it gets to a point of saturation where all the prognostications are trying to be different and find an alternate angle that other publications don’t have. Which is why you have the Dwight Schrute Football Experts, I mean the Football Outsiders, that pick a different area of the market to fill and thus make money. Although this prediction is pretty fair, but some points are ridiculous.
D3
July 22nd, 2009
10:32 am
Attempt #17
Nookah’s article he posted got me thinking about not being able to make a “deep run” in the playoffs as it said, so let’s compare shall we:
2007 New York Giants vs 2009 Atlanta Falcons
Offense
QB: Eli Manning – Matt Ryan
RB: Brandon Jacobs – Michael Turner
RB2: Derrick Ward – Jerious Norwood
TE: Jeremy Shockey/Kevin Boss – Tony Gonzalez
WR: Plaxico Burress – Roddy White
WR2: Amani Toomer – Michael Jenkins
Slot: Sinorice Moss – Harry Douglas
LT: David Diehl – Sam Baker
LG: Rich Seubert – Justin Blaylock
C: Shaun O’Hara – Todd McClure
RG: Chris Snee – Harvey Dahl
RT: Kareem McKenzie – Tyson Clabo
FB: Madison Hedgecock – Ovie Mughelli
Defense
DE: Michael Strahan – John Abraham
DT: Barry Cofield – Jonathan Babineaux
DT: Fred Robbins – Peria Jerry
DE: Osi Umeniyora – Jamaal Anderson
MLB: Antonio Pierce – Curtis Lofton
OLB: Mathias Kiwanuka – Mike Peterson
OLB: Kawika Mitchell – Stephen Nicholas
CB: Sam Madison – Chris Houston
CB: Aaron Ross – Chevis Jackson/Chris Owens
Nickel: RW McQuarters – Brent Grimes/Chris Owens
FS: Gibril Wilson – Erik Coleman
SS: James Butler – William Moore/Thomas DeCoud
Obviously, it’s easy to sit here and compare teams at the beginning of the season and say they were close in personnel and that it is very subjective at best because it doesn’t count schedule, locker room, coaching staffs, key plays, etc. but it at least deserves looking at since many think that our defense will be too inexperienced to make a deep playoff run.
Their defensive line may have been a little more experienced and they certainly have a better pair of DEnds than we do currently, but this was Osi’s big breakout year opposite Strahan. Their DT’s were solid but nothing spectacular. Their LB corps certainly doesn’t strike fear on paper alone. Pierce was a stud, but Kawika Mitchell and Mathias Kiwanuka? Secondary had Sam Madison, but the other guys were fairly unknowns and Aaron Ross was only in his first couple of years.
With these predictions, it gets to a point of saturation where all the prognostications are trying to be different and find an alternate angle that other publications don’t have. Which is why you have the Dwight Schrute Football Experts, I mean the Football Outsiders, that pick a different area of the market to fill and thus make money. Although this prediction is pretty fair, but some points are ridiculous.
JJ
July 22nd, 2009
10:39 am
Unca’ Bob, jason: agree with both of you. I am more concerned about the 4 or 5 games after bye weeks. I think this gives our proponents a huge advantage. Really ticks me off the more I think about it. Has any team been shoved this bs?
Unca’ Bob: mark bradly is at it again, beware!
Unca' Bob
July 22nd, 2009
10:44 am
JJ,
I saw that. Could not get thru all the posts. I had to bailout. If all that passion could be properly channeled…
jason
July 22nd, 2009
10:55 am
JJ, With the bye weeks, it will give opposing teams an edge over our young D. Smitty and BVG are going to have their work cut out for them this year. The good thing is we have alot of talent and alot of speed on that side of the ball.
JJ
July 22nd, 2009
10:55 am
Unca’ Bob: Do you remember which teams we play after their bye? I thought you posted back when the schedule was released. Got to run back out,will check in later…
D3: I love your long posts, but that might be the prob with our monster. If you break them down into 1 or 2 paragraphs at a time, it may help.
Retro hr (7-8pm) fav. player, fav. game, hof candidates, fav. coach, etc…
jason
July 22nd, 2009
11:06 am
JJ, at least I have a few hours to think. I began watching football in the early 80’s. There are alot of favorites. I will try to stay Falcons, but the Cowboys was my other team. Then again there were alot of great players, Chargers, Dolphins, Steelers, Lions, etc… I could go on and on, But I will wait until this evening.
D3
July 22nd, 2009
11:10 am
attempt #20
Nookah’s article he posted got me thinking about not being able to make a “deep run” in the playoffs as it said, so let’s compare shall we:
2007 New York Giants vs 2009 Atlanta Falcons
Offense
QB: Eli Manning – Matt Ryan
RB: Brandon Jacobs – Michael Turner
RB2: Derrick Ward – Jerious Norwood
TE: Jeremy Shockey/Kevin Boss – Tony Gonzalez
WR: Plaxico Burress – Roddy White
WR2: Amani Toomer – Michael Jenkins
Slot: Sinorice Moss – Harry Douglas
LT: David Diehl – Sam Baker
LG: Rich Seubert – Justin Blaylock
C: Shaun O’Hara – Todd McClure
RG: Chris Snee – Harvey Dahl
RT: Kareem McKenzie – Tyson Clabo
FB: Madison Hedgecock – Ovie Mughelli
Defense
DE: Michael Strahan – John Abraham
DT: Barry Cofield – Jonathan Babineaux
DT: Fred Robbins – Peria Jerry
DE: Osi Umeniyora – Jamaal Anderson
MLB: Antonio Pierce – Curtis Lofton
OLB: Mathias Kiwanuka – Mike Peterson
OLB: Kawika Mitchell – Stephen Nicholas
CB: Sam Madison – Chris Houston
CB: Aaron Ross – Chevis Jackson/Chris Owens
Nickel: RW McQuarters – Brent Grimes/Chris Owens
FS: Gibril Wilson – Erik Coleman
SS: James Butler – William Moore/Thomas DeCoud
Obviously, it’s easy to sit here and compare teams at the beginning of the season and say they were close in personnel and that it is very subjective at best because it doesn’t count schedule, locker room, coaching staffs, key plays, etc. but it at least deserves looking at since many think that our defense will be too inexperienced to make a deep playoff run.
Their defensive line may have been a little more experienced and they certainly have a better pair of DEnds than we do currently, but this was Osi’s big breakout year opposite Strahan. Their DT’s were solid but nothing spectacular. Their LB corps certainly doesn’t strike fear on paper alone. Pierce was a stud, but Kawika Mitchell and Mathias Kiwanuka? Secondary had Sam Madison, but the other guys were fairly unknowns and Aaron Ross was only in his first couple of years.
With these predictions, it gets to a point of saturation where all the prognostications are trying to be different and find an alternate angle that other publications don’t have. Which is why you have the Dwight Schrute Football Experts, I mean the Football Outsiders, that pick a different area of the market to fill and thus make money. Although this prediction is pretty fair, but some points are ridiculous.
Ken Strickland
July 22nd, 2009
11:15 am
To beat teams with dynamic OFF’s like the Eagles and Saints, we have to do 2 things.
(1) Use our ball control OFF to control the clock and keep their OFF off the field, while putting pts on the scoreboard.
(2) Force them to beat us using their weakness, because both teams have weak rushing OFF’s and correspondingly weak redzone scoring.
To get an idea of how important controlling the scoreboard(points allowed) can be, consider the following facts if you have trouble believing in our DEF. The Falcons finisned 24th in total DEF last yr, and of the 23 teams that finished ahead of us, 13 allowed more points per gm and only 3 had better won/loss records. Being quicker, faster, more mobile and athletic are all advantages when defending the Redzone, and there aren’t many, if any, DEF’s that are quicker, faster, more mobile and athletic than ours.
D3
July 22nd, 2009
11:27 am
article posted got me thinking about not being able to make a “deep run” in the playoffs as it said, so let’s compare shall we:
2007 New York Giants vs 2009 Atlanta Falcons
Offense
QB: Eli Manning – Matt Ryan
RB: Brandon Jacobs – Michael Turner
RB2: Derrick Ward – Jerious Norwood
TE: Jeremy Shockey/Kevin Boss – Tony Gonzalez
WR: Plaxico Burress – Roddy White
WR2: Amani Toomer – Michael Jenkins
Slot: Sinorice Moss – Harry Douglas
LT: David Diehl – Sam Baker
LG: Rich Seubert – Justin Blaylock
C: Shaun O’Hara – Todd McClure
RG: Chris Snee – Harvey Dahl
RT: Kareem McKenzie – Tyson Clabo
FB: Madison Hedgecock – Ovie Mughelli
Defense
DE: Michael Strahan – John Abraham
DT: Barry Cofield – Jonathan Babineaux
DT: Fred Robbins – Peria Jerry
DE: Osi Umeniyora – Jamaal Anderson
MLB: Antonio Pierce – Curtis Lofton
OLB: Mathias Kiwanuka – Mike Peterson
OLB: Kawika Mitchell – Stephen Nicholas
CB: Sam Madison – Chris Houston
CB: Aaron Ross – Chevis Jackson/Chris Owens
Nickel: RW McQuarters – Brent Grimes/Chris Owens
FS: Gibril Wilson – Erik Coleman
SS: James Butler – William Moore/Thomas DeCoud
WR
July 22nd, 2009
11:28 am
Quick check in with my favorite crew, 9 pages and counting and training camp is still a week away, don’t fall behind boys and girls because catching up could take all day.
JJ, I see your point on playing teams after their bye weeks, Jason has it right, it will give opposing teams an edge over the birds youngD. But I give you this, it was a discussion between myself and mostly Unca’Bob, to offset how teams will try to take advantage of the birds after bye weeks, the offense can go into alot of no huddle offense. The no huddle will allow them to control the clock and control opponents substituting ability. As Seminole has stated often, Mad Mike is virtually an offensive genius, he will come up with ways to combat teams having an extra week to prepare, defensively if the birds struggle the offense can shoot it out with the best of teams and not many teams will try to get into a shootout with these birds.
Back in a while, just wanting to jump in the cage real quick, by the way JJ, topics are looking good for NFL Retro, will the player be on board today,LOL.
D3
July 22nd, 2009
11:28 am
2007 New York Giants vs 2009 Atlanta Falcons
Offense
QB: Eli Manning – Matt Ryan
RB: Brandon Jacobs – Michael Turner
RB2: Derrick Ward – Jerious Norwood
TE: Jeremy Shockey/Kevin Boss – Tony Gonzalez
WR: Plaxico Burress – Roddy White
WR2: Amani Toomer – Michael Jenkins
Slot: Sinorice Moss – Harry Douglas
LT: David Diehl – Sam Baker
LG: Rich Seubert – Justin Blaylock
C: Shaun O’Hara – Todd McClure
RG: Chris Snee – Harvey Dahl
RT: Kareem McKenzie – Tyson Clabo
FB: Madison Hedgecock – Ovie Mughelli
Defense
DE: Michael Strahan – John Abraham
DT: Barry Cofield – Jonathan Babineaux
DT: Fred Robbins – Peria Jerry
DE: Osi Umeniyora – Jamaal Anderson
MLB: Antonio Pierce – Curtis Lofton
OLB: Mathias Kiwanuka – Mike Peterson
OLB: Kawika Mitchell – Stephen Nicholas
CB: Sam Madison – Chris Houston
CB: Aaron Ross – Chevis Jackson/Chris Owens
Nickel: RW McQuarters – Brent Grimes/Chris Owens
FS: Gibril Wilson – Erik Coleman
SS: James Butler – William Moore/Thomas DeCoud
Obviously, it’s easy to sit here and compare teams at the beginning of the season and say they were close in personnel and that it is very subjective at best because it doesn’t count schedule, locker room, coaching staffs, key plays, etc. but it at least deserves looking at since many think that our defense will be too inexperienced to make a deep playoff run.
Their defensive line may have been a little more experienced and they certainly have a better pair of DEnds than we do currently, but this was Osi’s big breakout year opposite Strahan. Their DT’s were solid but nothing spectacular. Their LB corps certainly doesn’t strike fear on paper alone. Pierce was a stud, but Kawika Mitchell and Mathias Kiwanuka? Secondary had Sam Madison, but the other guys were fairly unknowns and Aaron Ross was only in his first couple of years.
With these predictions, it gets to a point of saturation where all the prognostications are trying to be different and find an alternate angle that other publications don’t have. Which is why you have the Dwight Schrute Football Experts, I mean the Football Outsiders, that pick a different area of the market to fill and thus make money. Although this prediction is pretty fair, but some points are ridiculous.
D3
July 22nd, 2009
11:28 am
2007 New York Giants vs 2009 Atlanta Falcons
Offense
QB: Eli Manning – Matt Ryan
RB: Brandon Jacobs – Michael Turner
RB2: Derrick Ward – Jerious Norwood
TE: Jeremy Shockey/Kevin Boss – Tony Gonzalez
WR: Plaxico Burress – Roddy White
WR2: Amani Toomer – Michael Jenkins
Slot: Sinorice Moss – Harry Douglas
LT: David Diehl – Sam Baker
LG: Rich Seubert – Justin Blaylock
C: Shaun O’Hara – Todd McClure
RG: Chris Snee – Harvey Dahl
RT: Kareem McKenzie – Tyson Clabo
FB: Madison Hedgecock – Ovie Mughelli
Defense
DE: Michael Strahan – John Abraham
DT: Barry Cofield – Jonathan Babineaux
DT: Fred Robbins – Peria Jerry
DE: Osi Umeniyora – Jamaal Anderson
MLB: Antonio Pierce – Curtis Lofton
OLB: Mathias Kiwanuka – Mike Peterson
OLB: Kawika Mitchell – Stephen Nicholas
CB: Sam Madison – Chris Houston
CB: Aaron Ross – Chevis Jackson/Chris Owens
Nickel: RW McQuarters – Brent Grimes/Chris Owens
FS: Gibril Wilson – Erik Coleman
SS: James Butler – William Moore/Thomas DeCoud
D3
July 22nd, 2009
11:30 am
again…..
Nookah’s article he posted got me thinking about not being able to make a “deep run” in the playoffs as it said, so let’s compare shall we:
2007 New York Giants vs 2009 Atlanta Falcons
Offense
QB: Eli Manning – Matt Ryan
RB: Brandon Jacobs – Michael Turner
RB2: Derrick Ward – Jerious Norwood
TE: Jeremy Shockey/Kevin Boss – Tony Gonzalez
WR: Plaxico Burress – Roddy White
WR2: Amani Toomer – Michael Jenkins
Slot: Sinorice Moss – Harry Douglas
LT: David Diehl – Sam Baker
LG: Rich Seubert – Justin Blaylock
C: Shaun O’Hara – Todd McClure
RG: Chris Snee – Harvey Dahl
RT: Kareem McKenzie – Tyson Clabo
Defense
DE: Michael Strahan – John Abraham
DT: Barry Cofield – Jonathan Babineaux
DT: Fred Robbins – Peria Jerry
DE: Osi Umeniyora – Jamaal Anderson
MLB: Antonio Pierce – Curtis Lofton
OLB: Mathias Kiwanuka – Mike Peterson
OLB: Kawika Mitchell – Stephen Nicholas
CB: Sam Madison – Chris Houston
CB: Aaron Ross – Chevis Jackson/Chris Owens
Nickel: RW McQuarters – Brent Grimes/Chris Owens
FS: Gibril Wilson – Erik Coleman
SS: James Butler – William Moore/Thomas DeCoud
Obviously, it’s easy to sit here and compare teams at the beginning of the season and say they were close in personnel and that it is very subjective at best because it doesn’t count schedule, locker room, coaching staffs, key plays, etc. but it at least deserves looking at since many think that our defense will be too inexperienced to make a deep playoff run.
Their defensive line may have been a little more experienced and they certainly have a better pair of DEnds than we do currently, but this was Osi’s big breakout year opposite Strahan. Their DT’s were solid but nothing spectacular. Their LB corps certainly doesn’t strike fear on paper alone. Pierce was a stud, but Kawika Mitchell and Mathias Kiwanuka? Secondary had Sam Madison, but the other guys were fairly unknowns and Aaron Ross was only in his first couple of years.
With these predictions, it gets to a point of saturation where all the prognostications are trying to be different and find an alternate angle that other publications don’t have. Which is why you have the Dwight Schrute Football Experts, I mean the Football Outsiders, that pick a different area of the market to fill and thus make money. Although this prediction is pretty fair, but some points are ridiculous.
Ken Strickland
July 22nd, 2009
11:33 am
The above facts prove that where a team finishes in PT’s allowed is far more important than where a team finishes in total yds allowed. This yrs DEF will be far more capable of defending the Redzone than last yrs DEF.
D3
July 22nd, 2009
11:37 am
Hello, anything getting through?
SeminoleWarrior
July 22nd, 2009
12:07 pm
Hello Cage…Sorry to have disappeared earlier. Been dealing with a few issues here in the TeePee. Word to the wise men. Don’t try to be plumbers when you do not know what in the hell you are doing.!! I read some self-help tips and made things worse. Thank God I’m a hell of lot better with meteorology than I am with a pipe wrench. Anyways, the real dudes are handling my mess..
Jason, Musgrave is a hell of a sleeper as a coach, especially with QBs and offensive strategy. I think we will keep him around for a while. But Mad Mike is one that will be a hot commodity come the end of the year. As far as BVG, I’m still feeling him out so I will defer to you, D3, and other UGA faith as to his upside as an NFL coach.
K Strick…on target analysis as always.
JJ, will we hit the air at 6 or 7? WR, are you ready to break down the “Gene” factor in more detail.
Let me see how my money is being spent…back in a while.
SeminoleWarrior
July 22nd, 2009
12:11 pm
JJ, I will take some of the blame for the blog monster as well. I can get on a roll at times as well.
AJC Had best invest in a larger server because its PREMIER blog is only going to get BIGGER and BETTER!!
Sarah B
July 22nd, 2009
12:19 pm
My God! It took me this long just to catch up people and it’s already time for lunch. I’ll be back.
SeminoleWarrior
July 22nd, 2009
12:21 pm
Juice, I asked the same question today in regards to Jerry. As most of the Cage will recall, I was selling Ziggy Hood in here as hard as Jim Ellis selling cars in Cobb County!! Jerry’s injuries bothered me a bit and I really did not see much of a difference in the two.
Coach K Strick will definately tell us that we place too much into the injury thing and he is right. But the defensive line to me is the HEART of what we will do this season. It all begins in the trenches!!
jason
July 22nd, 2009
12:23 pm
Ken Strickland Good posts as usual. We are not a perfect team. By looking at weaknesses, we don’t have alot. Most notable is youth and inexperience on defense. I see that being the focal point for opposing teams to attack us. We need our offense to sustain long time consuming drives to protect the defense, at least at the early part of the season. I think they will. Also with the best directional punter in football will be an added advantage (as it showed last year) in keeping field position in the defense’s favor. That was how our D could give up all those yards last year while giving up so few points.
Unca' Bob
July 22nd, 2009
12:25 pm
JJ,
Thank goodness for notes.
Week 6-Chi @ Atl
Week 7-Atl @ Dal
Week 9-Was @ Atl
Week11-Atl @ NYG
jason
July 22nd, 2009
12:27 pm
SeminoleWarrior, the question with Jerry is… Are those injuries serious or of the nagging sort. Either way he is going to have to play.
Also on BVG, he is a good coach, but I wonder if he is going to jump ship and the first better offer. Hopefully not since he broke ground in the NFL with Smitty.
I will give you Mulsarkey, but he has been around the NFL so long, do you really think he wants to be a HC? I am sure everyone does at some point.
SeminoleWarrior
July 22nd, 2009
12:37 pm
Ohhhh Jason, ego is a powerful element my friend. Mad Mike was force out of Buffalo in a bad way. If there is a chance at redemption, I am sure he would seriously consider it. I love the guy but if he leaves to be a head coach, we will not miss a beat I think in elevating Musgrave immediately to OC.
It looks like BVG owes his NFL opportunities to the trust of Smitty. I’m thinking it is here with Smitty for the long haul. He, in the eyes of most of the league, is still an unknown.
jason
July 22nd, 2009
12:42 pm
SeminoleWarrior, I think the chances of retainging Mularkey are good. The NFL is a trend league and the trend now is to hire 30 somethin year old coaches with little to no experience (sarcasm). If he does go, Musgrave gets OC and a pay raise. He is responsible for the little developement that MV got plus what he did in MR’s rookie year.
BVG is still pretty young in his NFL DC career. He was ATL’s LB (I think) coach during Petrino’s brief stay in ATL.
jason
July 22nd, 2009
12:46 pm
Here is a bio on BVG….
jason
July 22nd, 2009
12:47 pm
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Biography
Bran VanGorder takes over the Falcons defense with an extensive coaching background that spans over 25 years in the profession, including two seasons in the NFL trenches and four years as a highly successful Defensive Coordinator at arguably the toughest conference in the nation in the Southeastern Conference and the University of Georgia.
VanGorder joined the Falcons in 2007 as the Linebackers Coach and guided a unit consisting of veteran linebackers such as Keith Brooking and Michael Boley, who both finished number one and two, respectively, on the Falcons tackle charts this past season. Boley set numerous career highs in 2007 under VanGorder’s guidance, including total tackles (125), solo tackles (88) and forced fumbles (3), while setting a franchise record with three sacks in the first half of a Thanksgiving Day game against Indianapolis Colts quarterback Peyton Manning. Brooking led the Falcons in tackles for the seventh consecutive season with 127.
“I worked with Brian in Jacksonville and have a tremendous amount of respect for him,” said Falcons Head Coach Mike Smith on announcing VanGorder’s hiring. “He brings an aggressive approach that I’m sure will benefit our defense.”
The 2008 campaign will mark VanGorder’s third year in the NFL. Prior to serving as the Head Coach of the Georgia Southern Eagles in 2006, VanGorder spent the 2005 season coaching the linebackers for the Jacksonville Jaguars under new Falcons Head Coach Mike Smith. Jacksonville ranked sixth in the NFL in total defense that season with VanGorder’s help.
From 2001-2004, VanGorder was in charge of the defense as Defensive Coordinator and Linebackers Coach at Georgia. The Bulldogs posted a 42–10 record over his four seasons at UGA, won one SEC title, two SEC East Division championships, captured three Bowl games and ended up with three straight top 10 finishes in the final national polls. In 2003, VanGorder received the Frank Boyles “Assistant Coach of the Year” award by the NCAA, which honors the nation’s top assistant coach, and also the Southern Sports Tonight’s assistant of the year in 2002 by the media.
In his last season in Athens (Ga.) in 2004, the 10–2 Bulldogs and seventh ranked team in the nation garnered a defense that ranked eighth overall and ninth in scoring defense. VanGorder’s 2003 defensive unit finished third nationally in scoring defense, fourth in total defense, and sixth in passing defense. In 2002, UGA’s stout defense allowed only 31 points during the final seven games, propelling the Bulldogs to a Sugar Bowl win over Florida State (26–13) and a number three ranking overall in the polls. His strong defense also led the SEC in scoring defense and finished fourth nationally.
VanGorder also had coaching stints at Western Illinois (2000), Central Michigan (1998–99), the University of Central Florida (1995–1997), Wayne State (1992-1994) and Grand Valley State (1989–91).
VanGorder, 48, was born in Jackson, Michigan. He and his wife, Pollie, have five children: Molloy, Morgan, Mack, Montgomery and Malone.
Alvin Reynolds’ Coaching Background
2008 — Defensive Coordinator // Atlanta Falcons
2007 — Linebackers // Atlanta Falcons
2006 — Head Coach // Georgia Southern
2005 — Linebackers // Jaguars
2001-2004 — Defensive Coordinator/Linebackers // Georgia
2000 — Defensive Coordinator/Linebackers // Central Michigan
1998-1999 — Defensive Coordinator // Central Michigan
1997 — Assistant Head Coach/Defensive Coordinator // Central Florida
1995-1996 — Linebackers/Special Teams Coordinator // Central Florida
1992-1994 — Head Coach // Wayne State
1989-1991 — Defensive Coordinator/Linebackers // Grand Valley State
jason
July 22nd, 2009
12:49 pm
At the end of 2007 BVG left ATL and signed to be SOS DC for the cocks. By the time he got to USCeast, Smitty was hired in ATL and he brought BVG back to ATL as DC. USCeast signed MSU’s DC to take BVG’s spot as their DC.
jason
July 22nd, 2009
12:57 pm
My post is being held in moderation. I don’t know why. My following post is not even showing up. That was like 10 minutes ago. You mention a certain name, and it never fails…
BT
July 22nd, 2009
12:59 pm
WOW!
The cage has sprouted wheels and is rolling out of control.
Like SB and others, takes all my available time to read up to the latest comments.
AWESOME POST BY MANY.
Retro hour tonight, cool!
One quick point, what this Falcon offence has is, an outstanding balance.
IMO that`s huge as it allows production in just about any environment or game situation.
I hope all to have a wonderful day.
Back later
jason
July 22nd, 2009
1:00 pm
On a side note, BVG laft the NFL following the 2007 season to become Spurruer’s DC with the Gamecocks. Once Smitty was named HC for ATL, BVG resigned the position to take on DC for the Falcons. Spurruer was not upset and tabbed MSU DC Ellis Johnson as a replacement DC.
Unca' Bob
July 22nd, 2009
1:19 pm
Seminole Warrior,
I think this is what jason tried to post
.http://www.atlantafalcons.com/People/Coaches/Brian_VanGorder.aspx