Look for a Post-June 1 move before blog-cation starts

While on blog-cation, we'll try to find the perfect Palm tree.

While on blog-cation, we'll try to find the perfect Palm tree to sit up and watch the sunset.

Blog-cationville –- Hey y’all, things will slow down in the Bird Cage in June and through the early part of July.

We’ll pick it back up hot and heavy in Mid-July before the start of training camp. In the meantime, here’s a little video from last season I found that you can keep replaying.

Just a couple of things before we lower the lights for awhile.

THE RETURN OF GANDY?: The Falcons will likely add a veteran free agent shortly after June 1 to help on the offensive side of the ball. This makes sense because if they’d signed him before June 1, the signing would affect the number of compensatory picks they have coming in the 2010.

Not sure, who the veteran could be, but perhaps tackle Wayne Gandy gets re-signed. He wants to keep

Maybe Milloy (r) finds a new home after June 1st.

Maybe Milloy (r) finds a new home after June 1st.

playing and the Falcons like him. Also, veterans like safety Rodney Harrison, who had been linked to the Falcons in the past, and Lawyer Milloy, may end up signing somewhere else.

ONE TOO MANY FACEBOOK FRIENDS: Was wondering why Quinn Ojinnaka was not at practice last Wednesday. When I asked coach Mike Smith, he said he knew where he was. Didn’t know that could mean he was in the lockup at the county jail. Wonder if he had a cell next to Otis, the town drunk.

Smitty must not have known where Quinn was for sure otherwise he would have told us. He probably just thought he was sleeping in late.

Ojinnaka, a fifth round pick in 2005 who’s played in 30 games and made seven starts, is a super guy. But he  just may have cut himself. The Falcons have a very low tolerance for players appearing on the police blotter these days.

Grimes has a battle on his hands.

Grimes has a battle on his hands.

GRIMES BACK ON THE GRIND: Brent Grimes, the former undrafted free agent from Shippensburg State, is off to a good start over the offseason. He’s running first team, but will face a stiff challenge to keep his spot come training camp.

He’ll have to beat back Chevis Jackson, Von Hutchins and possibly rookie Chris Owens.

“He’s a more confident player, without a doubt,” Smith said. “He’s the most athletic player on our team.  He has a lot more confidence this season in knowing our system and being around (defensive coordinator) Brian (VanGorder) and the defensive coaching staff.”

WIDE RECEIVER SPOT OPEN: With the trade of Laurent Robinson, there could be a roster spot open at the wide receiver position.

Former Georgia Force and Arena Football League star Troy Bergeron and undrafted rookie free agent Aaron Kelly of Clemson and Walton High are making strong offseason showings.

“Troy has done a nice job in terms of catching the football,” Smith said.

Kelly is not far behind.

“Aaron has a very good skill set,” Smith said. “He’s caught the ball extremely well. He’ll be a guy who’ll have

Troy Bergeron has been impressive.

Troy Bergeron has been impressive.

an opportunity to compete. We’ve been pleased with his progress.”

It’s possible that Bergeron could make the roster and Kelly the practice squad. Bergeron’s practice squad time is up and the Arena League is on hiatus, so he has to make the roster.

It would not be wise to count out Eric Weems either. He played last season and has developed nicely.

Speaking of wideouts, NFC South foe Tampa Bay is checking on Plaxico Burress.

Before I stroll off to find one of those Umbrella drinks and a nice Palm tree, do you think re-signing Gandy would be a good move? Will you miss the Mighty Quinn if his facebook page gets him tossed? Do you think Grimes can win the starting spot? Who’s going to get Robinson’s wide receiver spot, Bergeron, Kelly or Weems?

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MiltonDawg

May 30th, 2009
12:34 pm

Great blog. Enjoy the vaca!! Would like to get Gandy back and Harrison. Plaxico & TB possibly? Would make things interesting.

MiltonDawg

May 30th, 2009
12:47 pm

Also Quinn will not be missed and I think it’s great to see the no BS approach to off-field issues. i think Grimes will not start, Owens will. Bergeron is more proven to be an immediate fill in at WR.

I MUS.WRITE

May 30th, 2009
1:15 pm

We nneed depth not dinosaurs on our O Line- Gandy is a solid veteran but there has to be some yunger talent out there floating around. I would prefer to sign Jansen who was cut by the Redskins a few days ago.

Brent Grimes – is a capeable backup but starter is a stretch-What has changed since last year with this guy……as i remember he got burned a gud bit last year….Hmmmm Wait a minute so did Chris houston…… I would like to see Chevis and owens win the starting jobs…..

AAron kelly all day -you cant teach 6′5 and buttersoft hands

Rodney harrison would be a good pick up if healthy-mentor for our yung safetys

gdg73

May 30th, 2009
1:31 pm

What is with the team’s infatuation with Brent Grimes? He is garbage. Eric Berry, CB, Tennessee, 2010 NFL Draft.

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Barry

May 30th, 2009
2:36 pm

Hey Y’all:

D. Orlando Ledbetter, I just love the video of last years games. Those were “ONE HEARTBEAT” plays being conducted out there gave me serious “flash backs” of the “FIRE” and “HEART” of this TEAM, THE FANS, AND THE COMMUNITY joining as “ONE” in “ONE HEARTBEAT”. We will be in precision and coordination again in our contiuing the “PROCESS” of getting to the SUPER BOWL.

What I saw on the film was presicion, coordination, and timing of the players all responding, hitting, and running in “ONE HEARTBEAT”. I just can’t wait to see it agin when the season starts. Like you, for now I am going to rest my “HEART” until the season starts. But when it starts, IT IS ON IN “ONE HEARTBEAT!!!!”. BELIEVE THAT!!!!!!!

YOU JUST DON’T KNOW HOW READY I AM FOR SOME FOOTBALL!!!!!

GO FALCONS!!!!!!

SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!
This is a SECRET from a FALCON FAN. TELL EVERYBODY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

……………………….”ONE HEARTBEAT, BABY!!!!!………….

Kyle

May 30th, 2009
2:36 pm

I never mind adding o line depth with a veteran…I also wouldn’t mind getting another safety like a Harrison or even Milloy, but in a different role to help mentor Moore, or even step in if the body is refreshed…

Clemson23

May 30th, 2009
2:53 pm

I really hope Aaron Kelly makes the final roster. He has tremendous upside. I have seen him play at both Walton High and Clemson going to school with him at both. It would be a mistake not to give him a spot. He has the ability to be an outstanding redzone threat. If he gets his strength up he could be a outstanding deep threat with his height, hands and body control that he already possesses.. He is going to be fun to watch..

The Grinch

May 30th, 2009
3:22 pm

I was never terribly impressed with Ojinaka one way or the other. I’d be surprised if Gandy isn’t re-signed; he’s a good “character” guy. Bergeron will probably get that last spot, though Smitty adding “…in terms of catching the ball” implies he’s not impressed with some other aspect of Troy’s game. He’s been in the Arena league forever for a reason. Kelly has more upside, but the team is already so young at so many spots I doubt he plays much this year. Harrison or Milloy either one would be helpful to Moore.

Grimes may be the most athletic guy on the team, but he’s also only about 5′2, or looks like it anyway. The website lists him at 5′10, but they also listed Gravy Jackson at 335 last year. I’ll admit he showed impressive leaping ability last year, but starting him again would be a gamble I think.

The Grinch

May 30th, 2009
3:23 pm

By “he” I meant Grimes, not Jackson. Gravy couldn’t leap anywhere but to the buffet table.

bigjohnbirdsfan

May 30th, 2009
4:06 pm

Is there a such thing as separation anxiety for football fans?

If so, I’ve got it BIG TIME!!! GO BIRDS GO!!!

Unca' Bob

May 30th, 2009
5:05 pm

D-Led,

So, D3 nailed it! He said you were in some tropical paradise, slurpin’ fruity concoctions thru a straw while avoiding pokey eye hazards.
Welcome back. You hit two Homeruns today. It was great to here from TD and his views on our youngsters. A bit generic, but that’s to be expected. If TD, Coach Smith & Co. opt to pick up another player in June, in them we trust. “Thou shalt not run”.

PS While you wre baskin’ in the rays, lookin’ like a bronzed bodied love God, what did you clip that fugly bow-tie to?…LOL. Thanx again

Jay

May 30th, 2009
5:37 pm

Would it kill you to not end your blog with a bunch of questions that restate what we’ve already read? Its a cop-out, and its why your blog is the worst on ajc.

D. ORLANDO LEDBETTER

May 30th, 2009
6:01 pm

Unca’ Bob: Didn’t pack one bow tie. In a bow-tie free zone.

Jay: We had focusing problems in the past. So repeating the questions is my way of reminding folks what we’re supposed to be blogging about. We do have some good blogs here at the AJC and the Falcons blog is holding its own (with the everyone’s help!!!)

Here’s the link to TD talking about the Rookies. Nothing earth shattering, but interesting nonetheless.
http://www.ajc.com/sports/content/sports/falcons/stories//2009/05/31/dimitroff_falcons_draft.html

–DOL

jason

May 30th, 2009
6:24 pm

jason

May 30th, 2009
12:28 pm
Good morning, Noon, Whatever… I haven’t been on much. The inmates have been running my asylum. Got 2 kids for sale… Any takers?
I have been catching up on reading the posts, and I have to say,D3 Some people in here are giving you a run for your money on in depth analysis. So much good info I don’t really have a lot to add.

Unca’ Bob, You are fastly becoming the man with your football intellect. Enjoyed the article about ATL ranked third in NFL rankings. I am not being negative, but I don’t see ATL 3rd. I see somewhere between 7-10. They have the ability to finish up 3rd or even better. The defense has some young players. We gotta see what they can do. Also, I want to see the OL play as they did before. Kind of not being a one year wonder.
The bye week info is important. That will be the most important factor for this team’s success. When you have 2 weeks to get healthy and game plan for an opponent, that can be deadly. ATL has to worry about their mental game. I like the first 3 games before ATL’s bye. 3 good teams to set the pace for the season. ATL can take the bye and focus on the remaining season, not just their next opponent. With the 3 games ATL will have played, they should definitely understand their strength and weakness’s going forward from the bye.

Ken, as always outstanding posts. I too agree that the defense is being set up more for pass defense and man coverage. I feel you always have more options in man. You don’t have to guard a space and keep eyes on the QB. That was a nice breakdown on the PATS offenses and what they are trying to do. It goes right along with Unca’ Bob’s post. The complexity of the PATS offense is that they are so versatile and multidimensional. They look at what your defensive game plan is and adapt. They have different styles not only in their RBs, but also their WRs. Don’t forget their TEs though. They also can be deadly. When you have as much talent on offense, the TEs are usually the after thought. They won’t see as many passes their way.

D3, I am starting to lean your way on this game.I had picked ATL to win 24-21, I think on a last sec. FG. I think this game will be hard fought by whomever the victor is. I can see ATL getting down early. Especially with all the new parts on defense, and it still being only the third game of the year. We will need a MVP effort from Turner and Norwood. I just don’t see the running lanes from NE. I think Gonzo is huge in this game. We will need him and HD underneath. Short passes are good as a 4-5 yard run. We just need to keep the chains moving, get first downs and run the clock. That and we can not miss on scoring opportunities. Make each one we get count, because there want be many. I would sacrifice points in this game to keep Brady and co. off the field. That’s why I had the score low. We talk about how balanced ATL’s O is. I would like to see 65%-35& rush to pass. If that’s not possible, then I would like to see Gonzo around 10 catches but under 10yds. per. See where I am going? I want 10-15 play scoring drives. I want every possession to last 4-5 min. at a minimum. I know that’s a lot to ask, but that’s the only way I see a victory by ATL. I think our pass defense will be exposed if Brady and co. are on the field alot. Getting a good sustained rush on Brady will be difficult. Unlike Cassell, Brady knows where the hot reads are and will not hold the ball.

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D3

May 30th, 2009
6:29 pm

Good Saturday Afternoon Fellow ‘Cagers! Looks like our summer drought is starting to take hold a little ‘bit, which is to be expected since this is the deadest of dead times for Falcons and NFL Football. Looks like everyone’s relaxing a little bit and posting every so often in the ‘Cage, which makes sense of DOL taking a little breather. I mean how much can one get out of OTA’s, other than pure attendance reports? We still got our Roster Spot Analysis and Weekly Opponent Match-ups going as we head into the dry season. To Falcons & Football………

DOL – we figured a little break time was coming soon with the absolute dead-zone we are now entering of football season. OTA’s can only provide so much information right? Enjoy the vaca’ and we’ll hold down the fort here in the ‘Cage. Raise a glass for the Bird-Cage! See you when you return.

Gandy Return – I would be pretty shocked to see us bring back an aged vet like Gandy. It seems that we have the cupboard stocked pretty well with potential on the O-Line. Going out and grabbing someone like Gandy would seem to go against the mantra of “building” and “process” that has been preached from Day 1. We carried 9 OL on our active roster last year, drafted an OL, and picked up a few guys as FA’s. Baker, Blaylock, McClure, Dahl, & Clabo give us our starting 5 and we Brett Romberg, Garrett Reynolds, Alex Stepanovich, Ben Wilkerson, Jose Valdez, Will Svitek, Quinn Ojinnaka, and Pat McCoy to fill out our roster. Considering that Smitty and Boudreau are hard-core believers in the cross-training theory, I think we have everyone we need on the OL.

Ojinnaka Trouble – My thinking that with the drafting of Reynolds that Ojinnaka was already on the hot seat to make the roster this year. He was drafted by Lil’ Jimmy Mora with the intent of running a cut-blocking scheme. Personally, he’s past the 3 year window of development and probably serves as an adequate backup, but has never taken control of a potential starting spot the way Clabo and Dahl were able to do. I definitely can see us going with someone like Ojinnaka over a one year rent-a-player like Gandy, but he will have some serious competition to make the squad. Getting arrested (on a supposed domestic abuse charge) sure as the H—- doesn’t help with the “character” mindset that the Falcons have established.

Grimes Starting – “He’s the most athletic player on our team”…..That’s a pretty shocking one there. Love Grimes hustle, ferocity, heart, and play, but he fits in much better as Nickel or Dime back, IMHO. He may have turned the corner this year, and he did start until he was injuried, but I just can’t get over last year’s Carolina game in Charlotte. He was absolutely man-handled by Muhsin Muhammed. If I’m not mistaken Muhammed went well over 100 yards and countless 3rd down conversions. Wish him all the best and truly believe he’ll make the roster, but starting CB might be a little of a stretch.

Kelly vs Bergeron vs Weems – this one seems like a no-brainer to me, but maybe not to the Falcons Heads of State. Aaron Kelly definitely has some serious weight to put on and needs in-depth work and adjustments, but he is in the perfect situation to groom for the future. He wouldn’t be asked to do much at all with Roddy, Jenks, HD, BFinn, TG, & even Norwood & TBrown(possibly) being 99% of the passing OFF arsenal. He could learn from the best and contribute only when Mularkey gets an itch for 5 WR sets or can really use his height in the red-zone. As far as Bergeron, I would like to see his hard work finally pay off and him make the roster. But he has tried out several times and hasn’t made the cut yet. What has changed between then and now? He’s still young at 25, but 6′2 – 190 doesn’t really give him an edge over someone younger, taller, and probably faster. As far Weems goes, he may have played well on Spec Teams, but his official stats are 1 catch for 4 yards from last year and didn’t even play until game 10. His physical stats are 5′9 – 191 and we already have our burner, stud slot in HD. Also very young, but it just appears that Kelly has so much more upside than Bergeron or Weems, JMHO.

More to come later………..

TROTTINGHOMETUDD

May 30th, 2009
7:28 pm

ledbetter this not a bad article. i watch for phoney baloney. this is not that. no caps here…sorry. peace “bow tie wearing” dog.

falcon21

May 30th, 2009
7:30 pm

DOL’s blogs are the best of the AJC. What the heck is Jay smoking?

D3

May 30th, 2009
7:55 pm

Falcon21 – how’s it going my NW GA friend? Must be that stuff from Nookahs homeland.
DOL rocks the house. Guess he’s referring to # of posts. All about quality, not necessarily quantity.

TE#1 coming later….

falcon21

May 30th, 2009
8:05 pm

D3, could not be better my friend. Finished cutting the grass, got a cold brew and now watching the Lady Dawgs as they take the lead against Michigan.

Greg

May 30th, 2009
8:36 pm

They will NOT take Gandy back. He had so many DE’s go around him his head is still spinning. Foot speed? Look elsewhere.

jason

May 30th, 2009
8:47 pm

D3, I also think Kelly makes the team. To much upside compared to Weems and Bergeron. #5 reciever will not be used alot. Kelly could learn alot from White and Jenkins.
I don’t see Grimes as starting CB. I think the battle will come c=down to Jackson vs. Owens oppisite Houston. I like Jackson more in the nickel, but I will not argue if he is starting. Owens is my man.
Ojinnaka, is all but gone. depends alot on injury or needed depth to get through the preseason. Gandy is a good sign, I think. In regards to experience and teaching the young bucks the NFL. He can fill in on occasion, but not start for long periods of time.
Last but not least, this is a down period we are all going through. I trust that you Sir, and Unca Bob, Ken, WR, and the crew will hold us together. We have plenty to talk about to get us to some football. The two most competetive battles will be #3 RB and #5 WR. We need to make sure we do a thorough analysis on each position. As I see it now we are looking at Brown (#3 RB)and Kelly (#5 WR) are making the team.
The final point pertains to this article. TD expresses a likeness to all draft picks. It may be just “talking to the Press”, but from what I gather there is a real liking to not a few, but all the draft picks. I can see all picks making the team. You have to remember that there are a few Mora players left on the team. It also says alot when you are discussing draft picks with TD, and he menrions a FA signing in Kelly.

VICK SUPPORTER 2

May 30th, 2009
9:29 pm

SUPERBOWL TEAM? VEGAS SAYS “NOT GONNA HAPPEN” :)

LET ME GET THIS STRAIGHT:

PRO BOWL RECEIVER

PRO BOWL RUNNING BACK

PRO BOWL TIGHT END (THE BEST EVER)

AND THE BEST THE “EXPERTS” IN VEGAS SAY THIS LEGENDARY NEXT COMING OF PEYTON MANNING CAN DO IS 8-8 :)

YEAH THAT 72-MILLION IS LOOKING PRETTY GOOD :)

GO FALCONS!

Richard

May 30th, 2009
9:46 pm

This is a vote for Bergeron.

Necromancer

May 30th, 2009
10:40 pm

Judging from that picture, looks like Smitty has lost some weight…

D3

May 30th, 2009
11:41 pm

Roster Spot Analysis – TE#1

Tony Gonzalez
2008 Stats – 96 Receptions, 1058 Rec Yards, 10 TDs. Pro-Bowl.

This is probably the biggest no-brainer, no need for analysis since the guy is destined for teh Hall of Fame and is arguably the best Tight End to ever play the position in the NFL. One of the best additions through Free Agency or Trade. TD got us a steal in only giving up a second round draft pick (hopefully it’ll be a very late one based on this year’s success). No sense it going over how great he is in his career because that is beyond dispute. Be best to examine what he can add to our team.

2008 Atlanta Falcons – NFL Rank
Points per Game – 24.4 – 10th (8th NFC)
Yards per Game – 361 – 6th (3rd NFC)
1st Downs per Game – 19.6 – 9th (5th NFC)
3rd Down Percentage – 43% – 6th (3rd NFC)
Pass Yards per Game – 14th (8th NFC)
Pass TDs – 16 – 22nd (12th NFC)
Ints – 11 – T-5th
FG’s ATT – 29 – 17th

Red Zone Receiving Targets
Roddy White – 17
Brian Finneran – 10
Michael Jenkins – 9
Jerious Norwood – 8
Ben Hartsock – 1

A lot to look at and we already know that Tony G. will be a net positive across the board. There’s no other way to look at adding a HOF TE at the top of his game (he had only two other years with more TDs and 3 other years with more receiving yards).

Overall, our OFF was statisically already one of the best in the league. The surprising thing is that almost all of the teams ranked ahead were in the NFC. This indicates to me that the more powerful DEF’s reside in the AFC.

We averaged near or around the top 10 in almost every category except for a couple, namely Pass Yards per Game and especially Pass TDs. We were 6th in the NFL in Yards per Game, but way down in Pass TDs, but we were 3rd in Rush TDs. We could drive at will but still had serious problems in the red zone if we couldn’t run it in.

Red Zone Targets is a huge indicator with Roddy White getting almost double the amount of the next target in Finneran. So this basically tells us that if we had two options in the red zone: Roddy or Turner. Enter Tony Gonzalez. Our scoring should go through the roof with TG in the picture, giving a legitimate 1st option in the red zone, allowing Roddy, Jenks, HD, BFinn, & Maybe even Kelly to make some noise in the red zone. TG will be a 3rd down conversion machine for Matty Ice and the Offense.

Cons – if I have to give some. He’s 33 and played on natural grass his whole life. Hopefully the Terror-Dome Turf won’t affect him that much.

Your thoughts on our newest, popular Falcon #88?

habzee

May 30th, 2009
11:53 pm

We need to add another receiver and push for 6 spots on the active roster. If Jenks or White was to get hurt we would be done. I think Ashley Lelie, Sam Hurd, or Brandon Lloyd would be great additions considering we are $20 some million under the new cap. Other than that the roster is pretty much set unless we can find a way to add a quality outside backer or kick returner.

Manweez

May 31st, 2009
12:00 am

This is lazy patronizing empty writing from O Ledbetter. D3’s post is vastly more interesting than this beat reporters blog entry. And as far as he being the best blogger at the AJC, Falcon21, you’re probably right.

Ed

May 31st, 2009
12:01 am

Got this off of FoxSports

Falcons Team Report
Updated: May 29, 2009, 3:20 AM EDT
Inside Slant
Defensive end John Abraham, who set a franchise record with 16.5 sacks last season, is not participating in the non-mandatory organized team activities.

That’s just fine with the Falcons coach Mike Smith. Abraham has found an offseason routine that’s allowed him to make all 17 starts last season. He’s doing his offseason core maintenance program.
With Abraham missing OTAs, the Falcons can give more snaps to Jamaal Anderson, Kroy Biermann, Chauncey Davis and fourth-round draft pick Lawrence Sidbury.

“John is one of the smartest guys in the league,” defensive line coach Ray Hamilton said. “We are just going to hold John (out). We drafted a guy in the fourth round. We just want to look at some of these young guys.”

Hamilton is pleased with the offseason work of defensive tackle Jonathan Babineaux, who along with Abraham is expected to anchor the defensive line.

“We have to be sudden with all of our moves and Babineaux is one of the quickest guys in the league,” Hamilton said. “He has very quick feet and hands. He’s started to get more violent also. I hate to say violent and good in the same tense, but he has a pretty good violent side. That’s a big part of being a defensive lineman.”

Hamilton is stressing versatility in his unit.

“We coach guys on every position,” Hamilton said. “They have to know all of the positions. We do drills were they have to know what the end does, what the tackle does, As a defensive lineman, besides being violent, quick, nasty and all of that stuff, how smart you are the better off you are going to be.”

Also, first-round pick Peria Jerry, a defensive tackle, returned to OTAS after not practicing with the team last week.

“We saw an aggressive player,” Hamilton said. “A quick and disruptive player. In our scheme, that’s how we play. That’s what we need … We saw a good combination of run (stopper) and a good pass rusher. We saw all of that in him. We were very happy that he was there when we got our chance to pick.”

Free Mike Vick

May 31st, 2009
8:30 am

I gave up on this team when they turned their back on the greatest player they ever had……

Big Ray

May 31st, 2009
8:50 am

Nice pick-up, Ed.

Big Earl

May 31st, 2009
10:54 am

Lots to be excited about! Havn’t heard anyone mention how Nicholas is looking @ LB. Also, I’m glad Abraham is not risking injury @ OTA’s, but does anyone know if he’s there? He needs to be mentoring Sidbury and Anderson. Nice blog Led.

Unca' Bob

May 31st, 2009
11:09 am

Some O-line stuff

FLOWERY BRANCH, Ga. — As if on cue, the NFL’s meanest player, and some might say the league’s dirtiest, livened up a ho-hum May practice a few weeks back by doing something he does a lot, which is to brawl.

Atlanta Falcons guard Harvey Dahl is a nasty player who pushes the whistle on almost every play, so it wasn’t surprising to see him in the middle of a violent practice fight that ended with Dahl getting eight stitches across his nose, courtesy of a helmet to the face.

Dahl has a knack for getting under the skin of opposing players. (US Presswire)
The helmet to the face came when defensive end Kroy Bierman, Dahl’s combatant, lunged at Dahl after his helmet came off. It was an accident, not a head-butt you would see in some fake wrestling ring, but it didn’t stop Dahl.

Face cut, helmet off, blood rushing down his nose, Dahl kept swinging. And swinging. And swinging.

“You roll with the punches,” Dahl said the next day, a bandage covering his stitches, his forehead purple with bruises. “No big deal. Just a practice fight.”

Dahl has his share of them, so many that when the fight started, those on the sidelines without a clear view of the number of the offensive player pretty much knew who it was right away.

The chorus was easy to hear: “Harvey.”

Dahl is the modern-day Conrad Dobler. Back in the 1970s, Dobler was a mean offensive guard who was considered dirty by many of those who played against him.

Dahl has the same characteristics. Players don’t like playing against him. In discussing him with some league personnel, all mentioned that he pushes the limits — sometimes too far.

Dahl sheepishly admitted it, and thanked me for the comparison to Dobler.

“I push the whistle,” he said. “Yeah, definitely. It frustrates guys. But I’m going to go hard all the time. It gets under guy’s skin. But I just try and stay focused.”

It’s how Dahl earned his job in the league. He’s not going to change now. He’s the classic self-made player. He played at the University of Nevada, but he wasn’t drafted. The Dallas Cowboys signed him as a free agent, but he got cut on June 3, 2005 — several weeks before training camp.

The San Francisco 49ers signed him and he spent most of the next three seasons on their practice squad, although he was activated for a few games. It was there that his brutish style got him noticed.

“I remember I fought [49ers linebacker] Derek Smith in practice one day,” Dahl said. “He had just signed a new contract and I was a practice-squad guy, so that was kind of a big deal.”

The Falcons signed him to their active roster off the 49ers practice squad in October 2007 and he won a starting job last season. His play last season helped put running back Michael Turner into the Pro Bowl.

Who’s the meanest NFL player? Cast your votes now!

“That’s my man,” Turner said. “He’s one of the nasty boys. He’s tough, hard-nosed and plays hard. He came from the bottom, so he plays hard all the time. Don’t make him mad. That elevates his game even more.”

Dahl’s teammates say you can see the rage in his face in the huddle when he gets set off. It makes him play better, they say.

“I wouldn’t want to line up against him,” Falcons quarterback Matt Ryan said. “He’s nasty. He’s relentless. He plays through the whistle. That’s what you want from those guys. He keeps making blocks late in the play.”

Is he dirty? The Falcons players all backed their teammate and said no. Opponents might differ.

It was Dahl’s tactics in a preseason game last summer against the Tennessee Titans that led to some nasty, chippy stuff that had Titans coach Jeff Fisher screaming across the field at Atlanta coach Mike Smith. Several players from another team agreed that Dahl pushes the limits, and might cross the line. The league office thought he did so three times last season and fined him all three times for it.

“Most of the time I don’t go over the line,” Dahl said. “Those times, I guess I did.”

Dahl isn’t just a nasty player — he’s also a good one. His ability to drive block in the run game makes him one of the best guards in the league. His pass protection needs improvement in part because he is so aggressive. The Atlanta coaching staff is trying to get him to improve his footwork in pass protection and keep him from merely attacking on every play. If he does that, this self-made player just might be on his way to the Pro Bowl.

For now, he seems to accept being one of the league’s nastiest players as a badge of honor, even if it brings up questions about going too far.

“That’s OK by me,” he said.

As he said that, Falcons line coach Paul Boudreau walked by to ask what was going on.

Ravens enforcer Ray Lewis remains a lock for nasty lists. (Getty Images)
“Just doing on a column on the league’s nastiest player,” I said.

“Glad we got something,” Boudreau said. “We’ll take it.”

Memo to anybody lining up against the Falcons this year: Keep an eye out for No. 73, even if the play is over.

You might hate him, but the Falcons love their brutish guard.

jason

May 31st, 2009
11:22 am

Unca’ Bob, You keep dropping these great articles. I like Dahl, love the mean streak he plays with. I think evey team needs a player like that. Actually 3. On for each piece of the team. Offense, defense, and special teams. And coming from where he came, can you blame him. Self made, that is what he is. Undrafted, perenial practice squad player; now a starter, and very well could be a Probowl player this year. I don’t want hime to change now that he has made it. I want him to keep that nasty edge. It made Turner n All Pro last year.

Ken Strickland

May 31st, 2009
11:23 am

D3-you must keep in mind that at the beginning of last season, and all of the way up to our bye week, our complete passing OFF hadn’t been installed. Up to that point we won or lost based on the dominance of our rushing OFF. Going for that many gms with a limited passing OFF will naturally cause a reduction in overall passing stats.

We’ll start training camp with every OFF player from last season, except new addition TE TGonzalez. Our OFF players will start the season being totally familiar with the OFF, its terminology and each other. Each player knows who the starters will be this yr and they’ll be working and concentrating on getting better rather than making the team or the starting lineup, or learning the basics.

Familiarity, chemistry, confidence, and an expanded OFF, with the addition of TE TGonzelez, are attributes that were absent from last yrs OFF at the start of training camp and the regular season. Last yr, WR RWhite and MJenkins were the only receiving threats in our base OFF, since we operated without a pass receiving TE. That meant both WR’s faced constant double teams, especially RWhite, and they were still very productive. With TE TGonzalez in the mix, we’ll have 3 receiving threats that can go the distance anytime and from anywhere on the field.

DEF’s will have to pick their poison and commit more of their defenders to double teaming and/or pass defense. That’s going to leave fewer defenders to stop last yrs #2 rushing OFF. I’m not worried about our OFF because we simply have too many proven weapons not to be dominant. We know from last yrs results, we have a solid if unspectacular OL, a Probowl RB, a probowl calibur FB and a Probowl WR and TE. It’s our DEF that has me so excited about the upcoming season. Will our coaching staff be able to intergrate our new talent into our DEF and duplicate the meteoric rise of last yrs OFF?

We could have 5 new starters on this yrs DEF(SS, CB, DT, 2 OLB’s), but only 3 rookies will likely have a shot at starting(CB COwens, SS WMoore & DT PJerry). In each case, they’ll bave to beat out a veteran to win the starting job, so they won’t be depended upon to carry the load, since they’ll be backed up by the same experienced and talented vets they beat out. This season, we’ll know what to expect from established teams like the Patriots, Cowboys, Giants, Eagles etc. However, they won’t know exactly what to expect from us other than they’ll be facing the NFL’s 2nd most powerful rushing OFF and 10th best passing OFF, with the addition of the NFL’s greatest TE, that will be directed by one of the NFL’s best young QB’s in NFL history.

BELIEVE ME FALCON NATION, THE OPPOSITION WILL BE FAR MORE CONCERNED ABOUT US THAN WE’LL BE ABOUT THEM.

jason

May 31st, 2009
11:25 am

D3, I don’t have much to say 0n the #1 TE, Gozo. Really what else can you say about a future HOF. I think he just added 7 more points per game to our offense, whether receiving, blocking, or pulling coverage off of White.
I am however looking forward to breaking down the OL. There are going to be some battles there this preseason.

JJ

May 31st, 2009
12:22 pm

Roster spot anaylsis: TE #1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5BD7tPRmhY

“that i’ll do pig, that i’ll do!!!

jason

May 31st, 2009
12:23 pm

Ken, that’s why I think Ryan will vastly improve on his overall numbers.
Someone a while back had said that Ryan had thrown for 300 yds. only a couple of times last year. When you take into account that the whole offense had to learn a new system, unproven OL, Rookie QB, that would explain why the passing numbers were low. Now 10th in the NFL is not low. Also a reliable running game gave the offense time to learn and input the passing game. So, as we look forward to the upcoming season, we will have Ryan in year two, better shape mentally and physically. Also year two of the entire offense in the same system. You add to that a HOF TE to split the middle of the field. Turner will not have to carry the bulk of the offense, but however will still be very productive. And if Norwood can avoid the nagging little injuries that just will keep Turner even more refreshed. Norwood will also have a very positive effect on the passing game.
ATL went with having only 2 reliable targets in the pass offense to 4 by then end of the season. Now they have at least 6 coming into this year with White, Jenkins, HD, Gonzo, Norwood, Finn, and even Peele.
the key this year is as you said the defense. We very well could have 5 new starters, but regardless a lot of young players are going to play a lot. As I have said, I think every draft pick will make the team this year. The way TD was bragging on all of the picks, it’s got me pumped.
If ATL goes Anderson, Babs, Jerry, and Abe on the DL, SID, Biermann, Davis, Walker, Lewis will back them up. When you look at Peterson, Lofton, and Nicolas at LB, you gave Wire, James, and Adkins backing up. If ATL only goes 6 LBs, Gilbert may be the odd man out. DBs, especially CBs Houston and Jackson look to be the starters while Owens, Middleton, Grimes, and Hutchins will be backups. At Safety Moore will start beside Coleman and DeCoud and Harris will both play alot. I really don’t look at starters persay, But every player on the defense will play, and play a lot.

jason

May 31st, 2009
12:25 pm

Quick question, A lot of people are debating the last spots for WR. The battle between Bergeron, Weems, and Kelly. What is the chances of Khalil Jones making an impact there? Is he good enough with Kelly to force some hard decisions?

JJ

May 31st, 2009
12:32 pm

Is this guy for real:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUEGgi-xUME

This 18 sec. clip of tony g. in last yr. pro-bowl…unbeleivable!

walter williams

May 31st, 2009
1:44 pm

we need to quite wasting time and add a vetern back in the seconday. While the choses mentioned seem to be Rodney Harrison Or Lawyer Milloy, I think the fans would breathe a sigh of relief if either is signed, but just do it. Lawyer knows the system and would like to repent for geeting beat in the playoffs against the Cardinals, I think it would be extremely nice to bring Rodney Harrison in with that championship attitue to the Atl.

Unca' Bob

May 31st, 2009
1:47 pm

jason,

Thank you. I felt there is enought interest generated with “Big Harvey”, it would be a fun read. Please be aware, it can go to the bad side, too. There’s nothing like a personal foul to halt a drive. He needs to maintain some restraint and not hurt the team over all. The 3rd rated team bit, was just a fun thing all together. I’ve seen Atlanta rated from 3rd to #20. Where the truth lies…? We’ll know more about it later.

jason

May 31st, 2009
2:14 pm

Unca’ Bob, True a lot of ?s on defense. There is a lot of talent and upside, but a lot of questions. TD can’t hit on every personnel move, can he?

The Dahl situation is a fine line, But his nastiness leads to great run blocking. I like the part where they are talking about how he needs to channel the aggression in passing situations. I think that’s all that is keeping him from Pro Bowl status. Well, that and possibly getting labeled a “Dirty Player”

Walt, I don’t think we need a Milloy or a Harrison in our defensive backfield. We have Coleman there for veteran leadership. Now a Rodney Harrison in his prime, yeah, ATL would have to make room. But as it is now they both are to old and have a step, and in Milloy’s case a few steps and a lot of range. I like where we are with the safeyies. Now a veteran CB wouldn’t be bad, but which CB would you cut loose to get a veteran CB?

Unca' Bob

May 31st, 2009
2:29 pm

jason,

It could be, bring in Milloy on a “consultant” basis, ala, Colts retired coaches. Lawyer could bring a lot to the table and still remain in a pair of shorts.

jason

May 31st, 2009
2:33 pm

Not as aplayer, but yes as a coach. Unca’ Bob, I like your thinking there.

D3

May 31st, 2009
2:39 pm

Great Sunday Afternoon Bird-Cage Fellas & Gals! Definitely some slow going these days, but there is simply not much going on, and thats why we gotta be creative in keeping the Mojo going here in the ‘Cage. This was an odd week of sorts with beginning with a Memorial Day Weekend and DOL taking a vaca’. So let’s keep it going with Falcons and Football……..

All Bird-Cage Bloggers – daily posters, casual posters, or never posted before: the Bird-Cage is a community of Falcons and Football minded individuals. So anything you want to discuss, talk about, etc. just throw it out and we’ll dig into it. If we were to ever get a Fan Blog, than it would be good practice in prep for it.

Big Earl – not a whole lot of word on Nicholas so far, but the only snippet we got from DOL was that Nicholas was primed to win the starting WLB job and has had a pretty outstanding off-season. This is definitely the boom or bust year since this is that magical year 3 that dictates if the light will or won’t come on. Agreed to think that Abe would WANT to at least be at camp to mentor the young guys. I think he’s a balls-out player, but not necessarily the best leader type.

Unca’ Bob – Great article on our ‘nasty boy’ Dahl. Absolutely love that hard-nosed, edgy fighting spirit on the Line. He and Clabo make a fearsome two-some on that right side and is one of the biggest reasons Turner was 2nd in the NFL and had the biggest surprises in the League. He’s gotta watch it on going a little over-board because those penalties 5,10, & 15 yarders are drive killers and hurt us in some spots last year.

Ken Strick – I agree with you on the 3 receiving threat, but will add another as well in Harry Douglas. The guy had an outstanding in the slot last year as a rookie and he is a threat to take to the house anywhere on the field. The targets statistic really made us only a 2 dimensional threat in the red zone. TE’s are usually THE threat in the red-zone with their height mismatch and our red zone scoring should go through the roof.

j-man – I can see TG adding about 7 points per game. And on the pre-season note, I can’t wait until this training camp. Usually August is torture having to wait for the real deal to start, but this one looks to be a lot of fun to watch.

JJ – did you have a good weekend brother? Where does the d@— weekend go?

Walter – I understand your desire to bring in a guy like Milloy or Harrison, but it appears they’re very happy with DeCoud and Moore and the athleticism they bring to the table. There will be some growing pains for sure, but it will be exciting to watch these guys (particularly Moore) get their shot. I could see Harrison over Milloy; that ship has sailed, IMHO.

Patriots DEF vs Falcons DEF & Final Predictions on Game #3.

Later……..

Unca' Bob

May 31st, 2009
2:48 pm

JJ,

I went to both of your links. Very good stuff! There is enough side bars to keep even me busy. A tip o’ the Falcon cap to ya’.

jason

May 31st, 2009
4:25 pm

The FA acquisition of kahill Jones from the U (Miami), I think says alot about how comfortable they feel about the depth at WR. With his speed, he could bring a whole new dimension to the WRs while being teamed with HD. Any thoughts? If ATL goes 6 at WR who do you all seeing the 6 to be? We have White, Jenkins, HD, and Finn. Who grabs the final 2 spots?

Wabe

May 31st, 2009
4:53 pm

Coleman is a vet – but he never had the impact on the field that Harrison offered..he’s been mediocore at best.

Harrison would be a great addition – it could really help our new safety out of MIZZOU – WILLIAM MOORE!

I would say we pick up Harrison. I don’t see how it could hurt..

Also, considering how many Falcon fans I heard crying after we let a few vets go (Brooking, Milloy, etc.), I don’t understand why anybody would protest bringing in another veteran safety.

Unca' Bob

May 31st, 2009
4:55 pm

jason,

Throw in Kelly, Bergeron, C Williams D Mougey, E weems, etal, what do you think?

D3

May 31st, 2009
6:33 pm

What’s up fellas? House CEO’s got the comp. Check in later.

JJ

May 31st, 2009
7:15 pm

Unca’Bob: tks, still in disbeleif he’s a falcon! I spent an hr. and watched all of the youtube clips of him…even a college clip. I’ve been a life-long suffering falcon fan since mid-70’s, we have never had a super-star like this on our team. You can bring up all the past greats that I loved (bart, riggs, williams, alge…yadayadayada), none of them were THE BEST at their position, good but not the best. IF, and I only say that through years of suffering great expectations, If our offense stays healthy, we will have the best nfl offense EVER this city has seen, period! I still do not beleive the fine people of this city understand what this man may bring to our falcons! I hate to age myself, but I’m 44 and feel like it’s christmas eve! Scary stuff, we need to pace ourselves through the dead of summer…lol!

D3: Had to work on sat. (sux’s being the owner sometimes), so I only had today off. It does go by fast but thanks to my fellow brothers/sis, my fav. hobby continues!

JK

May 31st, 2009
7:23 pm

why did we trade laurant robinson? he was so good.

cdog

May 31st, 2009
7:31 pm

bring back michael vick and sign greg ellis. forget about the lying part mr blanks. this is not the first time it is happened.forgive mike.you won’t be sorry

D3

May 31st, 2009
7:37 pm

Slow goes Bird-Cage Fam. But we still got a core group of guys who like getting on here and talking some Falcon Football. Check out the schedule and see what you think…….

Roster Spot Analysis
Monday – TE#2
Tuesday – TE#3
Wednesday – LT
Thursday – LG
Friday – C

Weekly Opponent Matchup – Game #4
Atlanta Falcons @ San Francisco 49ers
Monday – Coach/Franchise/Previous Season/Off-Season Changes
Tuesday – 49ers Offense vs Falcons Defense
Wednesday – Falcons Offense vs 49ers Defense
Thursday – Final Game Analysis and Predictions
Friday – Special Teams/Game-Breakers

What you guys think?

JJ

May 31st, 2009
7:39 pm

JK…We our first a rushing team and our coaches demand that our
WR be able to block….he did not or could not block. Why not get a pic for him if he doesn’t fit smitty’s system? I wish him the best, but I can definately live with it. We are not short(talent wise) at WR or their back-ups!

jason

May 31st, 2009
7:50 pm

Wade, Harrison is an aold man. It’s that simple. ATL wab=nts atheletes that can run. Harrison is not one of them. Yes, he brings expierence, but expirence will only take you so far. He doesn’t have the range to do what ATL wants to do. He will not be signed, nor will Milloy.
Unca Bob, I see kelly making the team. With his hight, My GOD the possibilities. Jones, I think will be close. Bergeron and Weems has been in Smitty’s system. I think jones brings the speed factoror. If Jones proves he can v=catch the ball he will be right there ’til the end.

jason

May 31st, 2009
7:54 pm

I don’t waste my time thinking about what could of been. Robinson was and is a fine reciever, but he did not, or could not meet Smitty’s system. Whatever the reason, he is gone. Wish the best except against the Falcons. we have our team. It is always good when you have tough decisions to make in the pre season. That meanswe have the players to go for the Super Bowl. Nice isn’t it? I trust what TD has done. I stll think every draft pick makes the team this year.

D3

May 31st, 2009
9:28 pm

Falcons Offense vs Patriots Defense

Likely Match-ups

TE-Tony Gonzalez vs ROLB-Adalius Thomas
LT-Sam Baker vs RDE-Richard Seymour
LG-Justin Blaylock vs RILB-Tedy Bruschi
C-Todd McClure vs NT-Vince Wilfork
RG-Harvey Dahl vs LILB-Jerod Mayo
RT-Tyson Clabo vs LDE-Ty Warren
FB-Ovie Mughelli vs LOLB-Tyrone McKenzie?
WR-Roddy White vs CB-Shawn Springs?
WR-Michael Jenkins vs CB-Leigh Bodden?/Darius Butler
RB-Michael Turner vs SS-Brandon Meriweather/Patrick Chung
QB-Matt Ryan vs FS-James Sanders

Running
As dour as my breakdown for our DEF vs their OFF was, this is where we make up a lot of ground and stay in (and possibly win) the game. As vaunted as their OFF is, their DEF is not one of the best in the league, as they have tons of inexperience/fairly unproductive players on their DEF. Jerod Mayo is the real deal; Warren, Wilfork, & Seymour are all studs and they had one H— of a draft class. So its safe to say that they have some of the same issues as we do. All about being able to run the ball effectively will dictate the outcome of this one. Their relative strength lies in their front seven. Our left side draws a tough assignment with Baker matching up against Future HOF’er Seymour and Blaylock and McClure will have their hands full with Wilfork in the Middle, but once again Baker and Blaylock get some mad help from our own Future HOF’er Tony Gonzalez. TG will be able to help out on Seymour and will be able to handle Thomas at Strongside LB. McClure and Mughelli look to be strong against Bruschi or Mayo. Overall, I like our matchups with their front seven. But we know all about their crazy schemes and Turner and Norwood have to get going. Norwood might be a better fit with his quickness, because we know they like to blitz and if they get to Turner early in the backfield it doesn’t bode well for us. Look for a really tough first half running the ball, but it all comes down to ball control. We can’t go tit for tat on a scoring manifesto, so we have to take a page out of the NY Giants playbook and RUN THE FOOTBALL! Turner goes for a modest 75 yds, 1 TD; Norwood for 80 yds and 1 TD.

Passing
This is where we have our best match-ups, but if we get into a passing contest with the Pats then we’re likely to lose the game. In a dream scenario our defense will mature quick and hold their own against their OFF and allow us to run the ball and keep control, but don’t count on it. We’ll be in a passing/scoring contest really quick in this one. And the match-up looks good. Remember also that the heart and soul of the Championships DEF’s, Rodney Harrison, is long gone. SS Meriweather hasn’t shown much, hadn’t heard of FS James Sanders, Adalius Thomas on downside, Tedy Bruschi is way down, and their starting CB’s are either both FA signings or rookie Darius Butler. Roddy White will have no problem drawing Bodden or Springs and Jenks will do just fine with the other corner getting several key catches throughout the game. The big match-ups come down to Tony Gonzalez vs. Adalius Thomas/Brandon Meriweather/Patrick Chung and HD vs Darius Butler in the nickel. Gonzo will have another big day against any of their LB’s and/or Safeties and HD looks to have a solid day in the slot against a rookie. Matt Ryan may struggle early with bugs of going back to BC area/Foxboro fans, but gets on track in the second and blows up the 3rd and 4th.

Final – this looks to be one of the big bell-weathers of the year for us: Dynasty(Former TD Team) vs Up & Comer’s(TD’s Team). The TD connection almost gives a feel of playing a big brother since TD has basically taken the Pioli/Belichick script down South. This should be a scoring fest on both sides of the ball, with young defenses on both teams. Falcons DEF digs too deep of a hole early before gaining form in the second half. OFF matches the Pats OFF step for step, but the Pats get a late TD score and their DEF gets a big stop with less than 1 minute remaining. Hard fought contest, great growing up experience for our young D, and confidence of almost stealing one from the Evil Dynasty in Foxboro, but come up a bit short.

Patriots 38 – Falcons 31 (Hey can’t win all can we?)

Falcons: 2-1 heading into an early bye week @ SF the week after.

Pete

May 31st, 2009
10:04 pm

TD might pick up a FA or two on defense, don’t be surprised.
If Brent Grimes was 6′2” tall he would be one of the top 3 CB’s in the NFL, without question.

jason

May 31st, 2009
10:21 pm

D3, I concur, but the score won’t be that high. I am going 24-21 ATL. I feel both offenses will move the ball, but points are at a premium. I think Ryan uses Montana magic and drives for the winning score with less than 2 min. on the clock. ATL has the speed on defense to offset the schemes that the Pats will run. N.E. will not run the ball effectively enough to win this game.our front seven is better than theirs. They are the more experienced team, but we have the active play makers. This is Houston’s going off PARTY. Simple, run the ball; run the clock. By that I mean, if Turner and Norwood don’t get going, hit douglas intermediate or Gozo in the flat. The same as a 4-5 yrd. run. We win with the ability to control the clock. Don’t look for any big fantasy numbers in this game. N.E. will out gain us, but ATL wil win by dominating the time of possession.

jason

May 31st, 2009
10:23 pm

Pete, I don’t forsee TD picking up any FAs on defense. ATL is looking good. They will take their bumps and bruises there. We have talent on D. Just not expierence. ATL has playmakers. I will say once again, every player drafted this year will make the team.

DrJ

May 31st, 2009
10:29 pm

Great posts D3, Unca’ Bob and Strickland…. Is DOL reading them?

angry banker

May 31st, 2009
10:41 pm

D3 – good reason weems didn’t play unitl week 10 – he was on the practice squad til half way through the season. We don’t use the 5 wide set much, so he was lucky to get 2 snaps a game. He was exceptional in special teams play, and we did great on special teams last year. considering that – how could we replace him? not sure how many tackles he had, but i remember him FLYING down field to get a couple.

unca bob – great article find. Love me some Havrey Dahl – truely a joy to watch

jason – heard TD on a radio show talking about why we sent robinson to st. louis. He said it was to trade draft picks (think they trade picks in the 3rd and 4th?). Keep in mind robinson was hurt all last year and we already have 4 WR we really like.

VICK SUPPORTER 2

May 31st, 2009
10:45 pm

“WAKE UP DREAMERS”! VEGAS SAYS 8-8……..

SORRY BOYS :)

Ken Strickland

May 31st, 2009
10:55 pm

FOOD FOR THOUGHT-you take FB OMughelli and RB MTurner out of the gm and replace them with WR HDouglas and RB JNorwood. Can the Patriots, or any other NFL team for that matter, match a 3 WR set featuring HDouglas, MJenkins and Probowler RWhite, Probowl TE TGonzalez, with ROCKET MAN JNorwood coming out of the backfield, and QB MRyan throwing his lasers?

The Patriots are signing veteran players that are past their prime, like JGalloway and FTaylor, trying to acquire what we already have. The Falcons OFF is younger, quicker, faster, stronger and more physical than anything the Patriots can put on the field. TE TGonzalez is the closet thing we have to a starter being past his prime, and he was a starting Probowler with 96 receptions last yr.

Our current OFF now has the balance and the talent to pass with the Colts and run with the Giants. The Patriots can’t match that kind of balance and/or firepower. They don’t have a RB or FB that compares with MTurner or OMughelli, a TE that compares with TGonzalez or an OL that’s as strong or as physical as ours. Their OL has been constructed to provide protection for QB TBrady, not create consistent rushing lanes for their RB’s.

jason

May 31st, 2009
10:56 pm

angry banker, Totally agree, especially when you take in the fact that ATL doesn’t run 5 WR sets. TD will not show his true hand. Robinson was a good WR, but at the time ATL had needs at other positions. ATL has 4 good WR. They could go into the season with those 4, and 2 decent WRs, ala Kelly, and Jones. I take it as worth the risk to continue to improve the defensive side of the ball.
Also to answer your special teams question, Spencer Adkins, the LB from Miami. James wiull have his hands full fighting off for the 6th LB spot.

jason

May 31st, 2009
11:00 pm

Ken Strickland, no truer words have been spoken. I agree that the Pats. are siging players past their prime. They have gambled and hit quite a few times. I think their luck will run out on this years FA signings. JAX would not have let Taylor go if they knew that he had anything left. He had been with that franchise from birth. He is a stop gap. If Maroney is not healthy, they will not run the ball period.

jason

May 31st, 2009
11:19 pm

Ken, our offense matches up with N.E.’s, as far as being able to run multiple offenses. The huge question is, how will our defenses match up with their offense. ATL will go toe to toe with the Pats. as far as offenses goes. I’ll take our OL and Turner any day over Maroney and whom ever.

Boxcarar

June 1st, 2009
12:38 am

I really enjoy the depth and knowledge displayed with the Bird Cage folks. I think that the key to NE will be making Brady earn his yards. If he has to continually go 80 yards and our “D” can give him some pressure, we can win. Giving up the big play on special teams loaded with youngsters could be the difference. Thanks again for great Falcons information and insight. A lone transplant in Arkansas.

VICK SUPPORTER 2

June 1st, 2009
12:50 am

YOU “ARM CHAIR” ANALYST BETTER NOT QUIT YOUR DAY JOBS :) THE PATRIOTS ARE FORCAST TO BE EVEN MORE EXPLOSIVE THAN THE 2007 TEAM WHEN BRADY PASSED FOR 50 TOUCH DOWNS……..

YOU GUYS ARE COMICAL TO SAY THE LEAST :) ACCORDING TO VEGAS PREDICTIONS, AND I THINK THEY KNOW A THING OR TWO ABOUT MONEY, ARE SAYING THE BEST THE FALCONS WILL DO IS 8-8, AND IF THEY HAVE ANY INJURIES ARE LET UPS, THAT PUTS THEM ON PACE TO EQUAL 2007.

WHATEVER YOU GUYS ARE SMOKING, YOU NEED TO JUST SAY NO TO DRUGS :)

GO FALCONS!

Unca' Bob

June 1st, 2009
5:17 am

New England- Defense is in a decline. The stats for last years defense dropped significantly compared to the previous two. Their CB’s are gone and the LB corps, with the exception of Mayo, are not as active as in the past. I can’t see the Pats shutting us down. They will not shut down our run game and they have no means to shut down our pass. The factors that most decide this game will be turnovers and major penalties. 38-35 New England. 2-1 and going on bye week. I would not want to be San Fran.

jerry

June 1st, 2009
6:53 am

Four significant reasons the Falcons may not make the playoffs:

•Week 5 – BYE
•Week 6 – Bears @ Falcons

•Week 6 – BYE
•Week 7 – Cowboys vs. Falcons

•Week 8 – BYE
•Week 9 – Redskins @ Falcons

•Week 10 – BYE
•Week 11 – Giants vs. Falcons

The Falcons will face these four stellar NFL franchises coming off their BYE week while the Falcons have a game before each. This is unprecedented in the NFL as no team has ever had to play more than two teams coming off a BYE while they themselves have a game. Whether the Falcons win any or all of them is beside the point. The point is that it is a definite advantage to have two weeks to prepare when your opponent has only one. Falcon fans should be outraged as this is an outrage.

blord

June 1st, 2009
9:54 am

I think Ojinnaka will be cut soon. I think he was bound to be cut anyway but this Facebook thing just sealed his fate. I could see Grimes starting game one and sort of fill the same roll as he did last year. I don’t think come week 5 or 6 he will be the starter though. I honestly wouldn’t be surprised to see him start but I also wouldn’t be surprised to see him cut either depending on the growth of the other corners. I think that as a coach you like to have a guy like Grimes on the team. A guy who has ability but has a huge hurdle he has to jump in his height. He has desire and I think that pushes the players around him. I also think Bergeron will get the WR spot over Kelly and Kelly will go the the practice squad. There must be a reason they keep bringing Bergeron back as well as there must be a reson he keeps getting cut. I wouldn’t mind seeing Gandy back as long as at no point this season he is expected to play every down. He is cheap and brings a solid Vet to a young team. I don’t see us adding many more vets to this team. I also don’t see us picking up Harrison. Just my thoughts.

jason

June 1st, 2009
10:15 am

blord, Alot of your posr makes sense. ATL signed to many OL this offseason to keep a player like Ojinnaka around. A telling sign that he will be cut… Gandy was signed just before the story broke. I don’t see Gandy making the roster either. I said earlier that his veteran pressanve would be valued, However ATL signed alot of OL. Gandy is being brought in just for a competition stand point.

Your opinion on Bergeron is fairly accurate. There is some talent there that TD and Smitty like. He keeps getting resigned. Also, he keeps getting cut also. The thing with ATL is that they are non longer in the position to have to sign players to fill out the roster. They can now go with a plan. Nice luxry to have. The jury is still out on Bergeron. If he keeps improving, I say he makes the team. On your opinion, With ATL carrying 6 WRs, who makes the cut? White, Jenkins, HD, Finn, and who? Bergeron, Weems, Kelly, or Jones? spots, 4 WRs.

I also agree with you on Grimes. I say he starts game one. I think by the end of the bye Owens will be starting oppisite Houston. The only monkey wrench I see being tossed is if Jackson ups his play. I perfer Jackson in the nickel covering the slot, because he is so physical. So, coming out of the bye I see Houston, Owens, and Jackson playing nickel. Grimes, Hutchins, and Middleton will be fighting it out. The player to go I believe is Hutchins. He hasn’t played a down with ATL because of injury. Top 5 DBs are Houston, Jackson, Owens, Grimes, and Middleton and Hutchins fighting for that last spot.

I am going to sound like I am preaching here, but I will say once again… I think every player drafted this year makes the roster. TD seems really impressed by every pick made.

jason

June 1st, 2009
10:32 am

Unca’ Bob, I think the Patriots team as a hole are in decline. You can only oick so late in the draft, and sign aging veterans and continue to play at a high level. It will eventually end. Don’t get me wrong. They still have the mad scientist. They are still very much a dangerous football team. I do think though their time has come and gone. Play off team yes. SuperBowl team, that’s debatable. Look at their WRs Moss and Galloway. How long have they been in the NFL. Fred Taylor, can’t have that much milage left after the punishment he has taken over the past dozen years or so. I am not dismissing N.E. Really good team, just think they are on the down side of their remarkable run.

blord

June 1st, 2009
10:54 am

I also see Jerry’s point on the bye weeks. You give any NFL team 2 weeks to prepare for you and that puts you at an extreme disadvantage. Our one saving grace may be our division though. N.O. should be solid on offense but their defense has yet to scare me. T.B. should be horrible and Caroline is a team we should on paper at least split with. Of coarse all this is based upon the past so teams may be better or worse than anticipated. Boy did we get screwed on the bye weeks

blord

June 1st, 2009
11:06 am

Jason I think if they carry 6 it would be White,Jenkins,HD,Finn,Bergeron and ?. I really think that Kelly will be a practice squad guy for this year and take over for Finn in the future. I want him to do well though and would love to see him make the game day roster. Although I don’t think it will happen I wouldn’t be shocked to see Finn cut.

Unca' Bob

June 1st, 2009
11:52 am

jason,

In the 2007 season, Brady was sacked 21 times with 8 of those coming in the playoffs. Last year NE QB’s were sacked 48 times. Matt Cassel ran the ball 73 times and I don’t feel all those carries were by design. Brady has a much faster delivery so those sacks should drop, but not very far. More in the 30 to 35 range. Their defence in seasons 06 & 07 were getting mid 40’s sacks. That dropped to 31 in 08. It could be the writing is on the wall…

D3

June 1st, 2009
12:12 pm

Good Monday Afternoon Bird-Cager’s! Seems like we’re picking up some modest steam here in the ‘Cage as the summer drought of Falcons Football hovers upon us. Hey, its all about quanlity, not necessarily quantity. A quick lunch break post and tons more later. To our Beloved ‘Birds……..

DrJ – thanks for the props bro’. We certainly welcome you and your insights in the Bird-Cage. DOL’s on a vaca’ right now due to the dead-zone of Falcons Football.

angry – great point about Weems. If he is a special teams ace than that certainly gives him a huge advantage to the make the team over someone like Kelly, but as a pure receiver to develop Aaron Kelly would be in the perfect position to groom, add some weight, and eventually take over BFinn’s spot. Very true that we don’t use 5 WR’s sets, but Mularkey is a mad scientist and if Kelly can prove himself he definitely can become a huge red-zone threat along with Jenkins(6′4), BFinn(6′5), and Gonzo(6′5). There’s an outside chance that we keep Kelly & Weems, but you are certainly correct in that if Kelly can’t contribute on Spec Teams than he will be assigned to the practice squad. Defintely enjoy your great insights. Become one of our ‘Cage regulars.

jason – as far as Khalil Jones goes, he better come ready to prove something at Training Camp, because he wasn’t even listed on DraftCountDown.com as one of the top 50 receivers coming out in the draft. I tried researching him, but didn’t find much at all. His official career stats are 13 receptions for 135 yds. Maybe they know TD, Smitty, & CO. know something we don’t.

Ken Strick – you’re getting me excited when listing all the arsenal of weapons that Matty Ice has to work with. Would love to see Norwood and even TBrown in the slot some this year. I got a bad feeling this might be Norwood’s last year in red & black, because you can bet that some team will be willing to pay him starter’s money. JMHO.

jason(2) – gotta depart with you on Fred Taylor. I think he’s got at least about one more year left. He did what he did with an unproductive Garrard and NO receiving threat whatsoever in JAX. Remember that they said the same thing about Corey Dillon and he helped them to a Super Bowl Ring.

Boxcarar – we definitely welcome you here in the Bird-Cage. We have tons of transplanst from all over, even throughout the world. It’s a great place to come and talk real, intelligent football with cool fans.

jerry – yeah, you’re right on with that breakdown. That’s a bunch of BS in my opinion. The two I worry about most are the Giants and Bears, because they have legitimate coaching staffs that can use that extra week to be productive. As far as the Redskins and Cowboys, you could give them three weeks and I still think we’ll be just fine with them. Good point.

blord – great point on Ojinnaka. With the off-season signings of OL backups Will Svitek and Brett Romberg, Ojinnaka was already on the hot-seat. He got to that magical third year as a pro and obviously that light hasn’t flickered on. He was drafted to run the cut-blocking scheme that Lil’ Jimmy Mora ran. Don’t see too many Mora holdovers and it looks to be his year out, not even counting the (alleged) domestic abuse charge. You’re analysis is spot on my man; bring your excellent breakdowns on a more regular basis.

Alright boys more later on including 49ers vs Falcons (Game #4) State of the Franchise/Off-Season Talk and Roster Spot Analysis TE#2 which is always more fun analyzing the back-ups than the sure things.

See you all in a few…………

D3

June 1st, 2009
12:13 pm

quality, not quanlity — whatever the H— that is. I’m always too anxious to use spell-checker.

D3

June 1st, 2009
2:38 pm

Game #4

Atlanta Falcons @ San Francisco 49ers (after a bye week)

Record: 11-5-0, Finished 2nd in NFC South Division
NFL Season Summary

Scored 391 points (24.4/g), 10th of 32 in the NFL.
Allowed 325 points (20.3/g), 11th.
Takeaway/Giveaway Differential -3 (-0.2/g), 21st.
Coached by Mike Smith (11-5-0)
Key Losses: Grady Jackson, Lawyer Milloy, Keith Brooking, Michael Boley, Dominique Foxworth, Laurent Robinson
Key Additions: Mike Peterson, Tony Gonzalez, Brett Romberg
Impact Draft Players: Peria Jerry, William Moore, Chris Owens, Lawrence Sidbury
Strength of Schedule: 3rd out of 32

San Francisco 49ers
Record: 7-9-0, Finished 2nd in NFC West Division
NFL Season Summary
Scored 339 points (21.2/g), 22nd of 32 in the NFL.
Allowed 381 points (23.8/g), 23rd.
Takeaway/Giveaway Differential -17 (-1.1/g), 31st.
Coach: Mike Singletary (5-4-0)
Key Losses: Bryant Johnson, Deshaun Foster, JT O’Sullivan, Jamie Martin, Jimmy Williams, Walt Harris(IR)
Key Additions: Dre Bly, Damon Huard, Marvel Smith, Brandon Jones
Impact Draft Players: Michael Crabtree, Glen Coffee
Strength of Schedule: 30th out of 32 teams.

Let’s hear it Gents: did the 49ers get better or worse in the off-season? Is Singletary the man? Was their late run a fluke or the real deal? How does their off-season compare to our ours?

TE#2 Roster Spot Analysis coming later…………..

VICK SUPPORTER 2

June 1st, 2009
3:24 pm

8-8….. SO MUCH FOR BACK-TO-BACK WINNING SEASONS :)

angry banker

June 1st, 2009
5:44 pm

jason – from everything I see and hear, Spencer Adkins is supposed to light folks up on special teams. TD referred to him as a “run-and-hit” player. I still dont see him with that head-hunter speed Weems brings.

ken – good call on what our 3 WR sets would look like – pretty sick. But I dont think im going out on a limb saying Brady is a better QB than Ryan right now. Moss is better than White, Welker better than Jenkins and Galloway better than HD – atleast right now. I see your point, but they’re still pretty sick passing the ball – luckily for us we have one of the best running backs in the game AND possibly the best TE of all time. Still not sure how TD pulled off that trade… awesome…

jerry – good call on the schedule. I heard about all the teams coming off bye weeks, but never knew which ones. the NFL only considers ‘toughness’ of the schedule based on last years records – how about teams coming off byes? We face the bills last game of the season – how about getting them while Lynch is out?! Yeah, Forget Miami, ATL has the toughest schedule.

D3 – Yeah, I think Kelly will start the season on the practice squad. perfect place for him to get used to the speed of the game and most importantly – GAIN SOME WEIGHT!! haha. I saw videos of Dwight Howard playing HS ball on Sport Center this morning, that guy was skinny is HS – look at him now! Hopefully we can put some meat on kelly w/o him losing a step. In his current condition I would feel bad putting him on the field – hes likely to get broken in half!! In regards to ‘cagers – I’m actually on here all the time, I don’t always post though. Just depends on time constraints.

D3(2) – SF got alot better in the offseason. Crabtree should be able to come in and contribute immediatly; especially in the end zone. Singeltary is a good coach for the same reasone Smitty is a good coach – He makes you believe in the program. He lets you know that he has a plan in place that will work if properly executed. He gets buy-in from his players. I think we’ll see a BIG turn around from SF this year, but I’m still not sure if they have the talent on field to make it happen.
W/o looking at it too closely, I don’t see how they could match up on either side of the ball with us.

falcon21

June 1st, 2009
7:18 pm

D3- I see Atlanta scoring 27+ on SF and maybe SF scoring 20 at best. SF is still a year away from respectability. I think 8 and 8 or 9 and 7 at best. Mike Singletary demands respect, it all depends on the vets. buying into it. If they are 9 and 7, and I don’t see that happening but they will have earned the NFL’s respect. Who knows? Look at last season with our Birds.

Ken Strickland

June 1st, 2009
7:54 pm

If we get a decent pass rush, especially from our DL, BGrimes, or any of our current DB’s, will be able to get the job done. With the addition of DT’s PJerry, VWalker and TLewis, and the certain upgrade at LDE, either by JAnderson’s improvement or replacement, I guarantee you the right side of our DL will do a much better job of stopping the run and rushing the passer.

All of this yrs new DT additions are younger, quicker and faster, with more mobility, agility and stamina than former starter GJackson. What are the odds of all 3 of these new DT additions falling flat on their faces? In LSidbury, we have an athlete at DE that’s as quick, fast, strong and athletic as JAbrabam. I find it almost impossible to believe we won’t be able to get a solid pass rush out of the combination of DT’s PJerry, TLewis, VWalker, JBabineaux and DE’s JAnderson, JAbraham, LSidbury, CDavis and KBiermann.

ACCORDING TO SOME, IT’S IMPOSSIBLE TO DEFEAT A TEAM COMING OFF IT’S BYE WEEK. NEXT, I GUESS IT’LL BE IMPOSSIBLE TO WIN ON THE ROAD. In just one season and 2 drafts, TD and Smitty have put together an awsome assembledge of youth, experience and talent.

jason

June 1st, 2009
8:10 pm

Ken Strickland, AMEN!!! Falcon Brother.

falcon21

June 1st, 2009
8:46 pm

Ken, I hope your comment was not based on my comment. I was talking about SF going 8-8 or 9-7. I still think the Falcons will be 11 and 5 at worst. I didn’t read all of the eariler comments. As for the bye weeks, if a team has talent and is well coached they will be fine. Atlanta seems to have all the material to go along way. “Proud to be a Falcon fan”.

VICK SUPPORTER 2

June 1st, 2009
9:20 pm

8-8…..TAKE THAT TO THE BANK :)

Sarah B

June 1st, 2009
9:42 pm

Remember the old days when SF used to kick our azz on a regular basis. From when we were in that division. Not so much anymore. We will cream the 49’s . ATL 31-17 if that. We will take whatever happens against the Pats and use it against the 49’s.

falcon21

June 1st, 2009
9:50 pm

Sorry guys and gal, I guess material sounds kind of stupid. TD, MS, talent and team work will take us a long way. Oh yeah don’t forget about Blank and all of the fans in the cage.

jason

June 1st, 2009
10:30 pm

To all, The recipe I dropped on the tenderloin is the BOMB!!!. I had it tonight. MMMMM Delisious. The only comment I have is for D3. I remember corey Dillon, but this is not those Patriots. I am telling you man, everything runs full circle. I am not saying Taylor will not be good. Just that Maroney will carry the Pats. rushing attack. I don’t see Taylor as a threat unless the game is close in the 4th quarter.
I am off to some Stripe and some NCAA 2009. I will be back tomorrow. I can’t opine on the SF game, ATL will win. the question is by how much.

D3

June 1st, 2009
11:33 pm

Great Late Monday Evening Fellow ‘Cagers! Hey we know its the down-time of Falcons Football, but there’s some great intelligent convo’s going on here in the Bird-Cage. For those of you junkies like me, you can never get enough Football talk. Hey, its already June now and we’re officially under the 60 Day mark until Training Camp. Men this pres-season camp looks to be the most fierce and hotly contested, maybe ever, in Falcons history. Plenty to discuss here in the Bird-Cage, so lets get to it……….

On Vaca’ w/ Drink Umbrellas – if any of you fellas are out there, hope you’re having a good vacation and we look forward to your return to the ‘Cage. WR, dacha, Falcon Devil, Reno911, Seminole, Stirg, irvin, Jimbo, Marko, & anyone I may have left out: Have a frozen daquiri, margarita, or Scripe and hopefully we’ll see you back in the ‘Cage.

angry – good pick on Kelly. We probably would rush him a little being that skinny out there on the field, but he does have some serious speed and HD proved that if you’re tough and fast you can have success early on as a rookie. I agree with you that Weems helps us more right now; Bergeron doesn’t blow me away with his possibility.

falcon21 – you’re right on. SF may be one of the big sleepers of the year playing in a really weak conference helps and playing the 3rd easiest schedule also helps as well. Until they figure out a long-term answer at QB, they won’t sustain any long term success, IMO. Crabtree helps to add a nice weapon to Frank Gore, but who else strikes fear in opposing DEF’s: Alex Smith? Vernon “Bust” Davis? Issac “36 year old” Bruce? Not to me it doesn’t. Personally, I think Crabtree gets a little bit of humble pie after playing in a conference full of the weakest, swiss cheese defenses in the country. I say 7-9 or 8-8 myself.

Ken Strick – hey, maybe the next thing is that we’ll only 7-8 games as Las Vegas predicts. Such a bunch of BS.

Sarah B – you’re sitting pool-side with a Sol in Vegas posting your blog right? I have to admit that I was a HUGE 49ers fan back in the day, along with the Falcons of course, but Montana, Rice, Craig, Taylor, Lott, and Rathman were too hard to not like a youngster. Even though they’ll be improved, I don’t see anyway the game is close. Hope I’m not wrong?

j-man – Messiah Flay is da’ MAN, huh? I’m going on a strict Flay Grillin’ Summer trying as many grill recipes as possible. Just tried his Rum Glazed Tenderloin with Pineapple/Cilantro Relish. Little complex, but totally worth it. I’ll be honest with you on Mauroney, I’ve had him on my Fantasy teams the last two years and the guys has been a COMPLETE BUST(at least in Fantasy Terms). He should be absolutely tearing it up with all those weapons (Moss, Welker, Watson) softening up coverage for him, but NADA! Maybe his running style doesn’t fit their scheme but he hasn’t done that much at all, IMO. I definitely agree that the Pats window is closing, but I think they got another year or two left at some serious runs.

TE#2 & San Francisco State of the Franchise to come……….

D3

June 1st, 2009
11:51 pm

San Francisco State of the Franchise

Coaching
Mike Singletary obviously commands immediate respect with his hard-nosed playing days as one of the baddest MLB’s in the history of the game. He has all the confidence after taking a pretty horrid Mike Nolan led team to finish a strong 7-9 overall and looking for promise this year. Can he keep his momentum going with a full NFL Schedule? How many more bone-headed comments will he make like the one he made about Stafford and his divorced parents? We’ll see, but he looks to be a huge improvement over Nolan and maybe still a year away.

Offense
Frank Gore is a stud among men and one of the best RBs in the game, but they are definitely riding him rough as he’s been the only weapon they’ve had for some time. Michael Crabtree immediately boosts their WR corps, but is a he a complement to Isaac Bruce or a replacement? You have to figure that Bruce doens’t have that many years left in the tank. Vernon Davis is quickly assuming Bust status after being drafted with the 6th overall pick and it all goes back to QB. Shaun Hill or Alex Smith? Nope. If they can get a stud QB in there, they will have a nice, fairly explosive offense.

Defense
Justin Smith, Patrick Willis, and Nate Clements are the real deals at their respective positions and Parys Haralson looks to be a nice gem they mined in the 5th round, but is does 4 really good players make a DEF? Maybe it will and they certainly could come out and shock a lot of people, but having no DEF draft picks this year certainly hurt their progess of young, explosive players. Singletary will have to work his magic to get the DEF up to par.

Final: 8-8

49ers Offense vs Falcons Defense Tomorrow……….

D3

June 2nd, 2009
12:07 am

Roster Spot Analysis – TE#2

Ben Hartsock
12 Games Played, 3 Receptions, 26 Yards

Pros
Great blocking TE that adds another offensive lineman next to Baker or Clabo. Big reason that Turner had success on 1st and 2nd downs. Great size at 6′4, 264 that can road-grade OLBs and pay huge dividends doubling an opposing star DE. Most likely helped contribute to Sam Baker’s solid first year starting at Left Tackle. Has enough determination and grit to move on to the next level of blocking. Considered one of the better pure Blocking TE’s in the NFL. Good short-yardage and red-zone blocker.

Cons
Poses absolutely ZERO threat in the passing game. Has never caught a single Touchdown in his entire career. Obviously doesn’t fool any DEF’s when he lines up and signals exact intent on Falcons play selection. Replaced by Peele as combo option at TE and was unable to present any mismatches in the red-zone and was no help on 3rd down conversions. Inability in red-zone put undue pressure on Turner & Roddy to make plays, often times falling short when DEF’s zeroed in. Coming back from injury. Even though he a pure blocking TE, he must be able to produce SOME threat of receiving.

Final: Obvious great run-blocker, but with signing of TG, how much do we need a TE that can only block with no RECV threat. Is seemingly replaced by Justin Peele on two TE sets and has role seriously minimized to short yardage and goal-line situations. Depending on development of Peele and 2008 draft pick Keith Zinger, may start to feel his seat getting a touch warm. Makes the team this year, but next year? Anybody’s guess………

Last one of the night ‘Gents and ‘Gals. See you on the flip-side. And on that note…………

60 DAYS AND COUNTING TO 2009 ATLANTA FALCONS TRAINING CAMP!!!!!!!!!!!

jason

June 2nd, 2009
12:15 am

D3, that’s my pont. Marony will carry the Pats. Rushing attack. Dude, I love Taylor for all that he has done for JAX, BUT I don’t know if he wil n=be able to carry the Pats. to the SB. Y=That’s a lot to ask. I think ATL shows what they are all about. Defense and offense. I see ATL gong into the bye 3-0. Three hard fought games. They look at what they have and go from there

Sarah B

June 2nd, 2009
12:35 am

D3 – I’m leaving Wed evening on Airtran. Can’t wait!!

D3

June 2nd, 2009
9:45 am

Weekly Opponent Analysis – Game #4

Falcons @ San Francisco 49ers

49ers Offense vs Falcons Defense

Likely Match-ups
RDE-Jamaal Anderson vs LT-Joe Staley
RDT-Peria Jerry vs LG-David Baas
LDT-Jonathan Babineaux vs RG-Adam Snyder
LDE-John Abraham vs RT-Barry Sims
SLB-Mike Peterson vs TE-Vernon Davis
MLB-Curtis Lofton vs C-Eric Heitmann
WLB-Stephen Nicholas vs TE-Bear Pascoe?
SS-Thomas Decoud/William Moore vs RB-Frank Gore
CB-Chris Houston vs WR-Isaac Bruce
CB-Chevis Jackson vs WR-Michael Crabtree
FS-Erik Coleman vs QB-Shaun Hill/Alex Smith

So Ladies and Gents, what you think about the match-ups? From my perspective it looks pretty good to me, but let’s hear your thoughts.

Roster Spot Analysis – TE#3 & 49ers OFF vs Falcons DEF breakdown later. Until then……….

59 DAYS AND COUNTING UNTIL 2009 ATLANTA FALCONS TRAINING CAMP!!!!!!!!!

Unca' Bob

June 2nd, 2009
10:44 am

angry banker,

Spencer Adkins was not invited to this years Combine. He was tested at the Miami Pro Day. He ran a 4.43 forty, a 4.2 short shuttle, has a vert. leap of 36.5″. He can also bench press 225 lb’s 30 times. At Miami he had a tendency to over persue, and would get caught out of position. He was described as “looking like Tarzan and playing like Jane”. On special teams he would pop…

Unca' Bob

June 2nd, 2009
10:48 am

Sarah B,

You be careful not to get “dehydrated” in Vegas. Sometimes what happens in Vegas will not stay in Vegas. Ask Mr. Shockey…

Unca' Bob

June 2nd, 2009
10:50 am

angry banker,

PS He is 5′-11″ and 230+ lb’s.

Sarah B

June 2nd, 2009
10:58 am

Unca’ Bob, I won’t. And they won’t let me into VIP parties at the Hardrock Pool Bar. I’ll mostly hang out at my friend’s pool and read books and knock back a couple brewskis.

angry banker

June 2nd, 2009
1:07 pm

Unca’ Bob – I had his 40 time at 4.62 – impressive for a guy at 230, but not the ‘head hunter’ speed we want on punts and kick offs. Still, 230 coming at you that fast will knock your head off.

Unca' Bob

June 2nd, 2009
1:48 pm

Sarah B,

What ever you do, enjoy your tie and return safely.

Unca' Bob

June 2nd, 2009
1:50 pm

angry banker,

I had him at 4.43 which would put him where TD and Coach Smith want him to be. I also saw his weight at 245 lb’s.

angry banker

June 2nd, 2009
2:35 pm

Unca Bob – this is all I could find. Not to get into a pi$$ing contest, but where did you get 4.43?

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/2009/draft/players/44193.html

http://cdsdraft.com/profile.php?id=2949

Unca' Bob

June 2nd, 2009
2:48 pm

LB Spencer Adkins (Sixth round): Cited from an interveiw by D-Led from TD as posted in AJC.

“He’s a fast run-and-hit guy. I’ve seen him a couple of times where, if you know that if we were in pads, he would have blown up the ball carrier. He’s got a really impressive pop and explosion upon contact. He’s got impressive range.

Bleed_Red & Black

June 2nd, 2009
2:56 pm

Does anyone know of a Falcons group in the city of Jacksonville,FL? I’m a newly moved resident and find myself being one of the only falcons fans in the sports bar on game day. This is ok, but I’d prefer to be loud with a group. You know, birs of a feather… Thanks all. GO BIRDS!

Ken Strickland

June 2nd, 2009
3:07 pm

For all of you who insist on being apprehensive or even downright negative about the Falcons chances next season, let me give you a comparison of the Falcons OFF with the Patriots OFF, which most of you seem to revere so highly.

(1) ANGRY BANKER-RMoss isn’t better than WR RWhite. In fact, he’s not the best WR on his own team. Throughout his career, RMoss has used his speed, quickness, height and jumping ability to function primarily as a longball threat. He’s never been much of a possession receiver, or one willing to accept contact and go over the middle. WWelker had 111 receptions, 1165 total yds, 10.5 avg and 3TD’s. RMoss had 69 receptions, 1008 total yds, 14.6 avg yds and 11TD’s. Falcon WR RWhite had 88 receptions, 1382 total yds, 15.7 avg yds and 7 TD’s. Even MJenkins had 50 receptions for 777 total yds, a 15.5 avg yds and 3TDS. If our complete passing OFF had been in place at the beginning of last season, what are the chances of Jenkins maybe coming close to matching RMoss’ overall stats or RWhite exceeding those of Welken.

(2) The Patriots total passing OFF consisted of:
534 ATTS
3790 TOTAL YDS
7.10 YDS PER CATCH
11 INT’S AND 48 SACKS

(3) Their total rushing OFF consisted of:
513 ATTS
21 TDS
2278 TOTAL YDS AND 4.4YDS PER CARRY

(4) The Falcons total passing stats are:
434 ATTS
3440 YDS
16 TDS
11 INT’S AND 17 SACKS

(5) The Falcons rushing OFF consists of:
560 ATTS
23TDS
2443 YDS AND 4.4 YDS PER CARRY

Our OL did a much better job of protecting it’s QB and blocking for it’s RB’s. Our passing OFF was actually more effecient, and that’s without TE TGonzalez. Now, consider how close the stats between these 2 teams are, then consider how we started the season with a bunch of complete unknowns and a limited OFF, especially our passing OFF. We’ve added TE TGonzalez, which means we now have 2 receivers that were more productive than the overhyped RMoss was last yr.

BOTTOMLINE, THE OFF OF THE ATLANTA FALCONS CAN, SHOULD OR WILL BE BIGGER, STRONGER, FASTER, MORE VERSATILE AND OVERALL BETTER THAN ANYTHING THE PATRIOTS CAN PUT ON THE FIELD. Last yr, our DEF, especially our pass rush and run DEF, were our major problems, with SS, OLB and DL being the major causes. To address those weakness TD and Smitty stockpiled our roster with quick, fast CB’s that have documented man cover skills. We’ve also stockpiled DT’s and now have a rotation that’s made up of young DT’s that are quick, strong, fast, agile and mobile. We’ve added more speed, agressiveness and physicality to our OLB’s. The biggest upgrade to our DEF just might be at SS. These overall upgrades of speed, quickness, agility, mobility, stamina, youth and depth, will make this yrs DEFa far superior to last yrs DEF.

People can use the schedule, the number of teams coming off bye weeks, or any manufactured excuses they want. but none of it will stop last yrs #2 rated rushing OFF or 10th rated passing OFF, especially with the addition of TE TGonzalez. Neither can they stop the vast upgrades and improvement to last yrs bottom level DEF, which has amazingly added tremendous talent and depth to former positions of weakness. GO FALCONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Unca' Bob

June 2nd, 2009
3:31 pm

Ken Strickland,

You have aluded to some of the points I was trying to get out Our teams almost are a mirror image of each other. Our O-line protects Ryan much better than NE. Our D-line had better stats than their’s. The missing intangible is Brady. His release is quicker than Cassel, but he has always been slow footed. The sacks will go down some, just guessing, to about 35 or so. No one can throw a football with a 300 lb lineman sitting on his chest…

Hamad Meander

June 2nd, 2009
3:59 pm

Bleed_Red & Black – Jacksonville is a weird sports town – I don’t know of a specific Falcon’s bar in JAX, but you can try Mandarin Ale House – it seems to be the hotbed of sports watching on the southside. Wear you gear and you migh meet some other Falcon fans. There will be more and more of them as we keep winning.

Unca' Bob

June 2nd, 2009
4:01 pm

Miami- 11-5 Home
Carolina- 12-4 Home
N England 11-5 Away
Atlanta 11-5
The four hardest schedules in that order. Look familiar?

Hamad Meander

June 2nd, 2009
4:14 pm

Why am I totally unfazed by the rumor of bringing back Wayne Gandy? I guess I would rather have the confidence that Sam Baker is going to be 100% healthy and effective. If I were looking at positions to ’shore up’ before August, I would be looking for free safety, a sam linebacker, and a center. I haven’t read whether or not Todd McClure is definitely coming back, which could leave us only with Brett Romberg.

As far as receivers go – I don’t see the need for anything more than what is there already. Let’s look at offensive sets. To put three WRs on the field, you drop the fullback or the tight end. With 4 WRs on the field, you drop the fullback (or second back) AND the tight end. I don’t know if you’ve looked at our roster, but these are strength positions. What I’m saying is the more receivers on the field, the less talent we have on the field.

There’s nothing wrong with multiple receiver sets every once in a while, but I feel the Falcon’s strength will clearly be in more traditional sets with Mughelli, Turner, Gonzalez, White and Jenkins as the skill position players. I also doubt Gonzalez is going to be left in to block much.

Hamad Meander

June 2nd, 2009
4:31 pm

That being said, I hope the Falcons carry (4) receivers next season: Roddy White, Michael Jenkins, Harry Douglas, and……..Aaron Kelly. Nothing against Finneran, but there comes a time where so many injuries add up to unproductiveness. As much as I would like a 6′5″ receiver out there, that player is going to need to last the season.

I don’t see too many of our WRs playing special teams – we are going to need those roster spots for CBs since there aren’t any that really stand out as definite starters.

Unca' Bob

June 2nd, 2009
4:45 pm

Reno911,

While we have some quiet time , I need to give you an update. I am still looking for your Carolina B-B-Q sauce recipe. I have not forgotten. Trust me, as soon as I can get one together I will post it. Most folks in these parts are hard pressed to give one up. They will give you some, but will not divulge their secrets. Anyway, I’ll get it to you as soon I get.

Unca' Bob

June 2nd, 2009
5:32 pm

Hamad Meander,

The Falcons have Kelly as well as another FA named Darren Mougey. He’s 6′6″ at 230 lbs. To me, it would seem Atlanta is addressing your same concerns. Your thoughts on 3 & 4 WR are exactly on point. Well thought out and presented. On the defense side of the ball, you now have concerns with 3 WR, TE, J Norwood or Turner in the backfield. The Offense always know the play, the defense does not. Just a thought…

Ken Strickland

June 2nd, 2009
8:03 pm

UNCA BOB-The Falcon OFF has no weaknesses. With RB’s OMughelli, MTurner, JNorwood, JSnelling and maybe TBrown, our rushing OFF has both speed and power. With WR’s RWhite, MJenkins, HDouglas, BFinneran and one of those big rookie or FA WR’s, along with TE TGonzalez, we’ll have the speed and size to successfully pass anytime, anywhere and on anybody. Our OL will definitely be better than it was last yr, when they proved they could protect QB MRyan and created the NFL’s #2 rushing OFF.

Our OL ranked 5th best in sacks allowed with 17, after allowing 47 the yr before. As bad as our OL and our passing OFF was last yr, we still had 1 fewer sacks than the Patriots had this yr. Even with the outstanding season the Patriots had in 07, when they were undefeated before losing in the Superbowl, they gave up 21 sacks. So that puts into perspective how good the Falcons OL really is.

Unca' Bob

June 2nd, 2009
8:18 pm

San Fran: The thing that got Nolen fired last year is all about the selection of whom he selected for QB. He chose JT O’Sullivan. It came down to this was his selection, can not change his mind. The boy’s in the huddle had a different opinion. The first seven games they laid down. Enter Coach Mike. He installed Shaun Hill. If you look at the numbers he put up for nine games, impressive. The entire team had a turn around. Attitude, you can not stress it enough. It will continue and IMHO SF will be a very good football team next year. The Aints and Houston, they will be scary good, if you happen to pull for ‘em ya’ sorry rascal’s, good for you.

VICK SUPPORTER 2

June 2nd, 2009
8:49 pm

8-8 OR WORSE……….PLEASE CHECK OUT THE VEGAS BETTING LINE…….

SORRY “ARM CHAIR ANALYST” :)

LONG DRAWN OUT POSTS, CUT & PASTE DATA FROM OTHER SITES DON’T MAKE YOU SMART, JUST IN DENIAL :)

GO FALCONS!

falcon21

June 2nd, 2009
10:07 pm

Ken, I don’t see Finn making the team. He was good on 3rd downs and on special teams but he is 33. Don’t get me wrong, I would hate to lose Finn but with the young WR’s in camp and if they make a good showing then Finn may be gone. This is not the same management it used to be, they will make dicisions with their heads and not their hearts.

Sarah B

June 2nd, 2009
10:19 pm

Reno911 I’m headed your way – look out!

falcon21

June 2nd, 2009
10:21 pm

Have fun Sarah. Good luck!!!

Dave

June 2nd, 2009
10:36 pm

I believe that the two top teams last year in the NFC South, namely The Panthers and The Falcons, will battle for the NFC South and a first round bye in what is arguably one of the toughest divisions in the NFL. The Saints are the ‘Dark Horse’ in the division with their mighty offense but the D could struggle, especially with half of their D line missing the first four games.
The Bucs have some questionable holes but could still be considered an unpredictable threat. They have big questions at QB and are in a transitional rebuilding mode. But stranger things have happened.
Such as last year’s Falcons. Everything (well almost everything), fell into place, the ‘Planets Aligned’, and the 1-15 predictions became an 11-5 miracle, at least in the eyes of most expecting the worst following the MV7/Petrino debacle.
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On Offense, weapons White, Jenkins, Douglas, Turner, and Norwood are a formidable group to say the least. There is great talent everywhere. Matt Ryan is cool under pressure and is stronger and more comfortable with Mularkey’s playbook. Atlanta’s addition of perennial pro bowler Tony Gonzalez at TE gives MR2 a new toy.
The Dirty Birds O-line is solid too with an experienced leader at center, strong-young-high draft talent on the left side and the nasty, over-achieving duo on the right. Collectively they gave up very few sacks last year and adding TG’s excellent blocking skills to the mix, they should be even more complete and polished this year. I wish we still had Weiner for depth. Oh, did I forget to mention Mughelli is one of the best lead blocking FB’s in the game? This should be extremely fun to watch. Unless Matt Ryan gets injured or has a dramatic sophomore slump, the Falcons should have no problem scoring points fast and controlling the clock when needed.

The Defense for the Falcon’s could be very good if everything falls into place but there are question marks and reasons for concern. They are MUCH faster this year and you can’t coach speed. It helps make up for youthful mistakes or hesitation and there will likely be at least some of both. Abraham was the only real sack threat on the team in spite of double and triple teams. This year Atlanta will be much faster and more balanced across the front seven which should make Abe even more dangerous. J. Anderson must emerge in this, his third year, or the bust moniker will certainly get applied. Maybe his off season work with Chuck Smith will help turn on the light bulb and the game will slow up for him. I expect Falcon fans will be shouting ‘Hooray for Peria’ who is a big body built for clogging up the middle who also possesses surprising sack speed and an endless motor. Can he stay healthy? Babineau and Lewis are solid and getting better every year. C. Davis, the raw, freak ‘El Sid’, Biermann and the faster, more athletic linebacker’s Nickolas, Wire, and Peterson along with solid anchor Lofton in the middle, will enable blitz packages that VanGorder and Coach Smith could have only dreamt about last year. Will they employ a more, high risk/high reward D scheme? We shall see. I think with all the team speed they will attack much more this year. Or will they scheme, ‘bend not break’ and try to manage the game so they can simply try to outscore the opposition? That is after all how you win a game.
I’m most concerned with our safety and cornerback positions. Can we cover the tall, elite wide receivers that so many teams seem to possess? The jury is out.
Did the Falcons make the right off season moves? I say, ‘IN DIMITROFF WE TRUST’.

D3

June 2nd, 2009
11:09 pm

Excellent Tuesday Evening Fellow ‘Cagers! The summer drought is taking hold, everyone’s taking a vaca’(out of town or at home with some brews), and movin’ a little slower these days and its all good. I’ll still be here posting away as one of my fav hobbies. Unca’ Bob, jason, Sarah B., JJ, Ken Strick, & falcon21: hey that’s a good enough group to carry us into July, right? Falcons and Football Time………….

Unca’ Bob – you know I’ll hook you up with my favorite BBQ sauce recipe. I thought I posted it on here earlier, but I guess not. I’ll hook you up with mine and I tried a different store bought sauce that was d@– tasty called Sweet Baby Rays. Good Stuff.

angry banker – glad to see you’ve become a regular Bird-Cage member with your spot-on analysis. Spencer Adkins is a very interesting prospect trying to make the team. One would think that he will have to beat out Robert James for the 6th LB spot, since we usually carry 6 LB’s on our active roster. A spot like that will definitely come down to who’s better on Spec Teams, b/c they look to have a very similar build and M.O. (running and hitting). For reference, Wilrey Fontenot was the 6th round draft pick last year and was waived outright.

Bleed_Red – it definitely is not the same as being with a group of awesome Falcons Fans in person, but this can serve as the next best thing when you need your Falcons fix. We have people from all over the country AND world. Canada, Texas, California, Detroit, Arkansas, Japan, Nevada, and I’m sure many more. Come join us here in the Bird-Cage anytime.

Ken Strick – solid points as usual. At least for me, I’m not trying to sound negative, but just trying to look objectively at which teams might give us the most difficulty, and the Pats @ Foxboro look to be one of them. I think many of the vets know they’re window is closing and will chomping at the bit this year. They had a pretty impressive showing with a guy who hadn’t played live ball since high school. I look for their Passing and Running attacks to improve this year with the return of a healthy Golden Boy Brady. They added Joey Galloway and Greg Lewis to an already potent passing attack and Fred Taylor who looks to supplant Mauroney who is teetering on Bust status, IMO. I agree with you straight up that we can beat anybody in the league, including the Patriots. That game looks to be a big bell-weather for our season.

Hamad – what’s up brother? The latest from DOL is that the deal with Todd McClure is a non-issue and he was present at all OTA’s and Mini-Camp. Romberg is a good insurance policy just in case. It definitely appears they are going the youth route for SLB backup with Robert James or Spencer Adkins taking the 6th spot. Coy Wire also could be an option with since all of the LB’s are cross-trained. As far as Free Safety goes, it looks that Antoine Harris is in line to win the backup job with Thomas DeCoud being able to play both and eventually looking to get DeCoud and Moore on the field together.

More Later………

Wabe

June 2nd, 2009
11:23 pm

Honestly, considering the Falcons lost 5 starters on the defensive side of the ball this past offseason, they’ve rebounded quite well through the draft and via free agency.

The addition of Mike Peterson solidifies a linebacking core that was looking questionable after the departures of Brooking and Boley. At this point in time, you have Peterson, Lofton, and Nicholas/Wire plugged in to start at LB’s.

Overall, when talking about defense, I think it’s quite obvious what the Falcons philosophy will be going into the season:

Rush 4, maybe 5 occasionally, and put pressure on the QB.

If the D-Line can apply the pressure without blitzing extra LB’s or DB’s, it will help a questionable secondary cover. It’s all gonna fall on the shoulders of the front 4 or front 7. I wish the Falcons would be a pressure based defense. I think we’ve gotten alot faster on defense, and should utilize that speed with various blitz packages. In years past, we’ve been the type of team that’ll primarily rush 4 the entire game, playing that “bend but don’t break” style of defense. We have to become more aggresive and put some more faith in the guys on the field to get to the QB or make a play.

PRESSURE THE QB..

JA55, Peria Jerry, Babs, and J. Anderson.

YOU KNOW WHAT JA55 BRINGS TO THE FIELD. IN A SENSE, YOU KNOW WHAT YOU’LL GET FROM BABS TOO. IF ANDERSON CAN BREAKOUT THIS SEASON AND T.D. HITS BIG ON JERRY – THIS FRONT 4 COULD BE NASTY!

It starts in the trenches.

Wabe

June 2nd, 2009
11:25 pm

Someone mentioned the depth that we have at D-Line,

You have to be impressed with how many bodies the Falcons can throw into that front 4.

Sick.

Dean21

June 2nd, 2009
11:59 pm

Hello Cagers!
D3, I recall you saying you completed the final chapter in securing your season tickets. I’m on chapter 2. I would be interested in how many cagers actually have season tickets and what sections are they located in. I also would be interested in who has the best section!
Okay, back to the field…….

Ken Strickland you are right on point brother! That is what I’m talking about, the facts are there. If the young Falcons continue to believe in this coaching staff while continuing the process, then this year will be a success!

D3,Jason, Unca Bob, Sarah B., Stirg, Ken S….you know I was talking to a friend of mines yesterday, well now he may be an ex-friend (lol)
I put this question to him…I said dude..Do you think my Atlanta Falcons can go up to Foxborough and beat the Patriots…? He looked at me and said H*ll Nah! They even may loose by 46 points…trust me, I almost hit him in his mouth! then I said noooooooo, violence is not the answer! Let’s just let the action on the field prove my theory of why I think we will win this game. I know that most people and some teams fear “Tom Brady” but he and the Patriots can be beat! and since my friend is a Steelers fan and have had success against the Patriots, he felt the need to be disrespectful…(all in fun though)and to conclude, he stated after game #3, we would be winless – (0-3). I said dude, just wait and see…watch how we defend the dome!

Trust me, I shared this story because the naysayers are still out there even though we went 11-5 including a play-off game. I’m one to believe in the process and i’m positive we will finally get our back to back winning season this year!!

Dean21

June 3rd, 2009
12:04 am

Wabe, I agree…I feel that the Defense will be improved and will play much better! With the speed and improvement up front and the linebackers, most people will be surprised just as well as the offense surprised the entire league last year.

D3

June 3rd, 2009
12:04 am

Last one of the night brothers(I sleep when my little guy sleeps)…..

Unca’ Bob(2) – Grandma’s Lip-Smacking BBQ Sauce

Ingredients
1/4 pound margarine
1 garlic clove, crushed
1 teaspoon dry mustard
1 onion chopped
1 teaspoon ranch rub (Ranch Mix)
1 teaspoon steak (Steak Rub)
1/2 cup honey
3/4 cup cola (recommended: Coca Cola)
1 bottle Worcestershire sauce
1 bottle ketchup
2 lemons, halved (Watch for Seeds)
1 bottle hot sauce
4 chicken breasts, boneless or bone-in
Directions
In a saucepan, melt the margarine. Add the garlic clove, mustard, onion, ranch rub, steak dust, honey and cola and bring to a simmer. Then add the Worcestershire, ketchup, lemons, and the hot sauce. Cook for 20 to 30 minutes and let it simmer down. Dip chicken in sauce and put on grill. Keep applying sauce onto chicken until cooked.

Hamad(2) – I agree with you that we have all we need at WR, IMHO. We have our solid 4 in Roddy, Jenks, HD, & BFinn, and can use that 5th spot to develop somebody like Aaron Kelly or Darren Mougey. I don’t even know if I remember a 5 WR set last year more than once or twice. We carried 6 WR’s on the active roster last year adn Weems may help himself by being a Spec Teams Ace.

Ken Strick(2) – it’s a hard-pressed job to find weaknesses in our OFF attack on paper. But as we know all the “experts” are saying that Matty Ice will hit the soph. slump, or the schedule is harder, or the bye weeks garbage. Honestely its all a bunch of BS and we know it.

falcon21 – what’s up my NW GA bro’? You going down to catch any of the summer concerts in Ridge Ferry park? Or do they still have those. Anyway, I would be pretty shocked to see BFinn go this year. Remember he didn’t play for two years b/c of injury so there’s two years his body didn’t get beat on. I say he’s there at least this year and maybe one more and retires. Solid 3rd down, red-zone threat, and excellent Spec Team’er. JMHO. Also a great character & locker room guy. He also got a contract renewal in the off-season.

Sarah B. – enjoy some brews for me. I’ll be toasting with you on thursday evening myself. Remember, what happens in Vegas………

Dave – d@– brother, you just brought the pure heat on that post. We need your excellent insights in the Bird-Cage on a more regulary basis. Don’t really have anything to add to your spot-on analysis, except that I look to see Chevis Jackson win a starting CB job with his physical play, with Chris Owens learning and getting comfortable in the Nickel(the way Jackson did last year). After seeing Van Gorder work his magic up close in in his time in Athens, i also expect to see a TON more aggressive play on DEF. He’s got the speed, toughness, and ferocity he lacked lasty year so it should be entertaining.

Unca’ Bob(3) – have you heard from Reno911 lately? Hadn’t talked to that Original Brother in a while. Also, GREAT find on Darren Mougey. Don’t know much about him or his speed, but based on pure physical stats….WOW! 6′6, 230? Just play pitch and catch in the red-zone. Wonder why we haven’t heard anything about him from Mini-Camp, OTA’s, or DOL? Love his size if he can get the quickness, speed, and route running down.

Later fellas’. Have a good one and we’ll see you on the flip-side. San Francisco Breakdown & Roster Spot Analysis TE#3 will have to wait until tomorrow. And on that note………

58 DAYS AND COUNTING TO 2009 ATLANTA FALCONS TRAINING CAMP!!!!!!

Ken Strickland

June 3rd, 2009
12:39 am

FALCON21-The player that beats Finneran out as the 4th, 5th or 6th WR had better be very, very good on special teams. Finneran has consistently been one of the best clutch 3rd down receivers in all of football and a top notch special teams player. Age and injuries haven’t stopped him from doing what he does best, at least not yet. With his size, sure hands and ability to get open, it’s always an advantage to have a veteran that’s a sure thing on the roster, rather than a younger player with potential, especially when you’re talking about a 4th, 5th or 6th string backup. Besides, if the coaching staff wasn’t high on Finneran and his overall skills, they wouldn’t have traded WR LRobinson, at least not before the draft. The WR’s that are on the bubble are Eric Weems and Chandler Williams, not Finneran.

D3-I’m glad we’re playing the Patriots early in the season because it takes away one of their main advantages. Warm weather, or dome teams, have trouble playing their best in that brutal New England weather. If the weather doesn’t become a factor, we’ll have a very good chance to kick their butts.

WABE-we won’t be throwing just bodies into the mix, but young, quick, fast, agile, mobile, strong and aggressive bodies. Each one will be eager to show he can consistently get the job done and deserves more time on the field.

DAVE-excellent analysis. Don’t worry about our secondary, especially if we get the outstanding pass rush that’s dictated by the overall talent we now have at DE and DT.

willieg

June 3rd, 2009
7:40 am

i told allyou idiots that NEW ENGLAND WILL WIN THE SUPER BOWL THIS YEAR , THE FALCONS WILL NOT beat new england this year , brady has had a year to rest,they are po,d they didnt make the playoffs last year, and they added the running back from jacksonville,FRED taylor,please stop showing your ignorance on this blog, its ok to pull for your team, but this is why ive been betting football for 25 years,i love taking money from georgia numskuls like you all.

falcon21

June 3rd, 2009
7:45 am

D3 they still have those concerts there, have not been in a while.I go check out the Rome Braves every now and then. Ken, I hope you and D3 are right about Finn. I wish he didn’t have to play on special teams because he is such a clutch 3rd down WR and would hate to lose him to injury.

willieg

June 3rd, 2009
7:49 am

OH YEA forgot to tell you all this falcon team in 2009 will go 6-10, ive already bet the under 8 in vegas easy money this year with the falcons with there schedule and the presence of vick loming around and the offseason moves spells DOOM,for the falcons but to me MONEY IN THE BANK,and UGA will lose the first game at oklahoma st guaranteed THE WILLSTER TOLD YOU ALL FIRST HAND 3 months ahead of time and ledbetter good article to pump up the blood,but WAYNE gandy please, this team needs young blood fast blood not people past there prime.

D3

June 3rd, 2009
8:28 am

Great Mid-Week Day A.M. Bird-Cagers! Gotta love wednesdays, especially when they’re over which signals we’re past the mid-point of the week. Even though we’re stuck in a serious Falcons Football drought, there’s still some good convo’s going on here. To the ‘Birds……….

Wabe – you’re right on that we’ve already seriously upgraded our D-Line rushing capabilities with Peria Jerry & Trey Lewis, which should have a huge impact on J.Anderson in his 3rd year. Couple that with a new All-Pro StrongSide LB in Peterson, Lofton in his 2nd year, and Stephen Nicholas who looks to finally have the light coming on. Compare that to Brooking, Disappearing Act Boley, Big Grady who provided ZERO pass rush, & Milloy who has lost a step or three and we have added speed all around. Expect Van Gorder to be much more aggresive this year in his plan of attack. At his peak at UGA, Van Gorder was a very aggresive play-caller. Excited to say the least.

Dean21 – what’s up my man? Oh, can’t wait for the tix in the mail so I can pop a brew and celebrate one of the best investments I’ve made in my life. I believe my section is 316, but I’m not sure. The House CEO and I got in on the good deals two years ago when they were making a big push to sell them. I love my seats: great view, Home side, and very reasonably priced. There are plenty of haters out there who would love to see us fail to make up for their own insecurities and issues with their own team. I don’t really want to see hardly any teams do terrible except for the Cowboys. Even though we have earned respect with the NFL Media, there are many fans who don’t want to believe that we could turn it around as quick as we have. 0-3, huh? That guy’s your friend? JK.

Ken Strick – good point about time of year. If we could go up there a steal one from the “Golden Boys” then we might have to start talking about the “process” as in NOW!

falcon21 – yeah, been to some Rome Braves games. Tons of fun, especially on two for tuesdays. I would be shocked if BFinn doesn’t make the squad. I think he is entrenched at #4 WR, with the #5 & #6 spots wide-open. I have a sneaking suspicion that we keep 5 RB’s and 5 WR’s instead of 4 RB’s and 6 WR’s like we did last year. Rather have TBrown & Snelling than say Kelly AND Weems on our active roster.

Alright Gents, a little work and will return with my 49ers OFF vs Falcons DEF prediction/analysis and Roster Spot Analysis – TE#3 a little later. And it looks like we have some hate baiter’s fishing in the ‘Cage: don’t take it!

D3

June 3rd, 2009
8:31 am

Looks like the Blog Monster is on the loose again………F—-!

Attempt #2

Great Mid-Week Day A.M. Bird-Cagers! Gotta love wednesdays, especially when they’re over which signals we’re past the mid-point of the week. Even though we’re stuck in a serious Falcons Football drought, there’s still some good convo’s going on here. To the ‘Birds……….

Wabe – you’re right on that we’ve already seriously upgraded our D-Line rushing capabilities with Peria Jerry & Trey Lewis, which should have a huge impact on J.Anderson in his 3rd year. Couple that with a new All-Pro StrongSide LB in Peterson, Lofton in his 2nd year, and Stephen Nicholas who looks to finally have the light coming on. Compare that to Brooking, Disappearing Act Boley, Big Grady who provided ZERO pass rush, & Milloy who has lost a step or three and we have added speed all around. Expect Van Gorder to be much more aggresive this year in his plan of attack. At his peak at UGA, Van Gorder was a very aggresive play-caller. Excited to say the least.

Dean21 – what’s up my man? Oh, can’t wait for the tix in the mail so I can pop a brew and celebrate one of the best investments I’ve made in my life. I believe my section is 316, but I’m not sure. The House CEO and I got in on the good deals two years ago when they were making a big push to sell them. I love my seats: great view, Home side, and very reasonably priced. There are plenty of haters out there who would love to see us fail to make up for their own insecurities and issues with their own team. I don’t really want to see hardly any teams do terrible except for the Cowboys. Even though we have earned respect with the NFL Media, there are many fans who don’t want to believe that we could turn it around as quick as we have. 0-3, huh? That guy’s your friend? JK.

Ken Strick – good point about time of year. If we could go up there a steal one from the “Golden Boys” then we might have to start talking about the “process” as in NOW!

falcon21 – yeah, been to some Rome Braves games. Tons of fun, especially on two for tuesdays. I would be shocked if BFinn doesn’t make the squad. I think he is entrenched at #4 WR, with the #5 & #6 spots wide-open. I have a sneaking suspicion that we keep 5 RB’s and 5 WR’s instead of 4 RB’s and 6 WR’s like we did last year. Rather have TBrown & Snelling than say Kelly AND Weems on our active roster.

Alright Gents, a little work and will return with my 49ers OFF vs Falcons DEF prediction/analysis and Roster Spot Analysis – TE#3 a little later. And it looks like we have some hate baiter’s fishing in the ‘Cage: don’t take it!

D3

June 3rd, 2009
8:31 am

GDWTFBS? Blog monster is out!

D3

June 3rd, 2009
8:33 am

Attempt #3 – this gets on my F’n nerves.

Great Mid-Week Day A.M. Bird-Cagers! Gotta love wednesdays, especially when they’re over which signals we’re past the mid-point of the week. Even though we’re stuck in a serious Falcons Football drought, there’s still some good convo’s going on here. To the ‘Birds……….

Wabe – you’re right on that we’ve already seriously upgraded our D-Line rushing capabilities with Peria Jerry & Trey Lewis, which should have a huge impact on J.Anderson in his 3rd year. Couple that with a new All-Pro StrongSide LB in Peterson, Lofton in his 2nd year, and Stephen Nicholas who looks to finally have the light coming on. Compare that to Brooking, Disappearing Act Boley, Big Grady who provided ZERO pass rush, & Milloy who has lost a step or three and we have added speed all around. Expect Van Gorder to be much more aggresive this year in his plan of attack. At his peak at UGA, Van Gorder was a very aggresive play-caller. Excited to say the least.

Dean21 – what’s up my man? Oh, can’t wait for the tix in the mail so I can pop a brew and celebrate one of the best investments I’ve made in my life. I believe my section is 316, but I’m not sure. The House CEO and I got in on the good deals two years ago when they were making a big push to sell them. I love my seats: great view, Home side, and very reasonably priced. There are plenty of haters out there who would love to see us fail to make up for their own insecurities and issues with their own team. I don’t really want to see hardly any teams do terrible except for the Cowboys. Even though we have earned respect with the NFL Media, there are many fans who don’t want to believe that we could turn it around as quick as we have. 0-3, huh? That guy’s your friend? JK.

Ken Strick – good point about time of year. If we could go up there a steal one from the “Golden Boys” then we might have to start talking about the “process” as in NOW!

falcon21 – yeah, been to some Rome Braves games. Tons of fun, especially on two for tuesdays. I would be shocked if BFinn doesn’t make the squad. I think he is entrenched at #4 WR, with the #5 & #6 spots wide-open. I have a sneaking suspicion that we keep 5 RB’s and 5 WR’s instead of 4 RB’s and 6 WR’s like we did last year. Rather have TBrown & Snelling than say Kelly AND Weems on our active roster.

Alright Gents, a little work and will return with my 49ers OFF vs Falcons DEF prediction/analysis and Roster Spot Analysis – TE#3 a little later. And it looks like we have some hate baiter’s fishing in the ‘Cage: don’t take it!

D3

June 3rd, 2009
8:34 am

Just when you think the issues with the blog monster have been cleared up, BAM! It pops up.

Apologies if a re-post

Attempt #4

Great Mid-Week Day A.M. Bird-Cagers! Gotta love wednesdays, especially when they’re over which signals we’re past the mid-point of the week. Even though we’re stuck in a serious Falcons Football drought, there’s still some good convo’s going on here. To the ‘Birds……….

Wabe – you’re right on that we’ve already seriously upgraded our D-Line rushing capabilities with Peria Jerry & Trey Lewis, which should have a huge impact on J.Anderson in his 3rd year. Couple that with a new All-Pro StrongSide LB in Peterson, Lofton in his 2nd year, and Stephen Nicholas who looks to finally have the light coming on. Compare that to Brooking, Disappearing Act Boley, Big Grady who provided ZERO pass rush, & Milloy who has lost a step or three and we have added speed all around. Expect Van Gorder to be much more aggresive this year in his plan of attack. At his peak at UGA, Van Gorder was a very aggresive play-caller. Excited to say the least.

D3

June 3rd, 2009
8:34 am

Dean21 – what’s up my man? Oh, can’t wait for the tix in the mail so I can pop a brew and celebrate one of the best investments I’ve made in my life. I believe my section is 316, but I’m not sure. The House CEO and I got in on the good deals two years ago when they were making a big push to sell them. I love my seats: great view, Home side, and very reasonably priced. There are plenty of haters out there who would love to see us fail to make up for their own insecurities and issues with their own team. I don’t really want to see hardly any teams do terrible except for the Cowboys. Even though we have earned respect with the NFL Media, there are many fans who don’t want to believe that we could turn it around as quick as we have. 0-3, huh? That guy’s your friend? JK.

Ken Strick – good point about time of year. If we could go up there a steal one from the “Golden Boys” then we might have to start talking about the “process” as in NOW!

falcon21 – yeah, been to some Rome Braves games. Tons of fun, especially on two for tuesdays. I would be shocked if BFinn doesn’t make the squad. I think he is entrenched at #4 WR, with the #5 & #6 spots wide-open. I have a sneaking suspicion that we keep 5 RB’s and 5 WR’s instead of 4 RB’s and 6 WR’s like we did last year. Rather have TBrown & Snelling than say Kelly AND Weems on our active roster.

Alright Gents, a little work and will return with my 49ers OFF vs Falcons DEF prediction/analysis and Roster Spot Analysis – TE#3 a little later. And it looks like we have some hate baiter’s fishing in the ‘Cage: don’t take it!

D3

June 3rd, 2009
8:36 am

Blog Monster, gimme a break dude! Attempt #5 – Apologies for any re-posts.

Great Mid-Week Day A.M. Bird-Cagers! Gotta love wednesdays, especially when they’re over which signals we’re past the mid-point of the week. Even though we’re stuck in a serious Falcons Football drought, there’s still some good convo’s going on here. To the ‘Birds……….

Wabe – you’re right on that we’ve already seriously upgraded our D-Line rushing capabilities with Peria Jerry & Trey Lewis, which should have a huge impact on J.Anderson in his 3rd year. Couple that with a new All-Pro StrongSide LB in Peterson, Lofton in his 2nd year, and Stephen Nicholas who looks to finally have the light coming on. Compare that to Brooking, Disappearing Act Boley, Big Grady who provided ZERO pass rush, & Milloy who has lost a step or three and we have added speed all around. Expect Van Gorder to be much more aggresive this year in his plan of attack. At his peak at UGA, Van Gorder was a very aggresive play-caller. Excited to say the least.

Dean21 – what’s up my man? Oh, can’t wait for the tix in the mail so I can pop a brew and celebrate one of the best investments I’ve made in my life. I believe my section is 316, but I’m not sure. The House CEO and I got in on the good deals two years ago when they were making a big push to sell them. I love my seats: great view, Home side, and very reasonably priced. There are plenty of haters out there who would love to see us fail to make up for their own insecurities and issues with their own team. I don’t really want to see hardly any teams do terrible except for the Cowboys. Even though we have earned respect with the NFL Media, there are many fans who don’t want to believe that we could turn it around as quick as we have. 0-3, huh? That guy’s your friend? JK.

Ken Strick – good point about time of year. If we could go up there a steal one from the “Golden Boys” then we might have to start talking about the “process” as in NOW!

falcon21 – yeah, been to some Rome Braves games. Tons of fun, especially on two for tuesdays. I would be shocked if BFinn doesn’t make the squad. I think he is entrenched at #4 WR, with the #5 & #6 spots wide-open. I have a sneaking suspicion that we keep 5 RB’s and 5 WR’s instead of 4 RB’s and 6 WR’s like we did last year. Rather have TBrown & Snelling than say Kelly AND Weems on our active roster.

Alright Gents, a little work and will return with my 49ers OFF vs Falcons DEF prediction/analysis and Roster Spot Analysis – TE#3 a little later. And it looks like we have some hate baiter’s fishing in the ‘Cage: don’t take it!

D3

June 3rd, 2009
8:39 am

Attempt #6 – its amazing how some posts get through with ACTUAL curse words and ones like mine that have ZERO curse words or profanity get eaten. Wonderful.

Dean21 – what’s up my man? Oh, can’t wait for the tix in the mail so I can pop a brew and celebrate one of the best investments I’ve made in my life. I believe my section is 316, but I’m not sure. The House CEO and I got in on the good deals two years ago when they were making a big push to sell them. I love my seats: great view, Home side, and very reasonably priced. There are plenty of haters out there who would love to see us fail to make up for their own insecurities and issues with their own team. I don’t really want to see hardly any teams do terrible except for the Cowboys. Even though we have earned respect with the NFL Media, there are many fans who don’t want to believe that we could turn it around as quick as we have. 0-3, huh? That guy’s your friend? JK.

Ken Strick – good point about time of year. If we could go up there a steal one from the “Golden Boys” then we might have to start talking about the “process” as in NOW!

falcon21 – yeah, been to some Rome Braves games. Tons of fun, especially on two for tuesdays. I would be shocked if BFinn doesn’t make the squad. I think he is entrenched at #4 WR, with the #5 & #6 spots wide-open. I have a sneaking suspicion that we keep 5 RB’s and 5 WR’s instead of 4 RB’s and 6 WR’s like we did last year. Rather have TBrown & Snelling than say Kelly AND Weems on our active roster.

Alright Gents, a little work and will return with my 49ers OFF vs Falcons DEF prediction/analysis and Roster Spot Analysis – TE#3 a little later. And it looks like we have some hate baiter’s fishing in the ‘Cage: don’t take it!

Unca' Bob

June 3rd, 2009
8:51 am

D3,

Thank you for the repost of Grandma’s Lip-Smackin’. I have properly stored it. Not sure on the bottle sizes.

The last I saw Reno911 was on a blog that talked about pros and Cons. I’m sure he is lurking out there and will return at some point.

The research on D Mougey is to date, the hardest I have ever done. There was so little infomation out there. All I could gather is, he was a three star QB that ended up at San Diego State and converted to WR. He started his Jr. and Sn. years. He caught 47 balls with 5 TD’s his Sn. year. That’s all the info I’ve got. I guess one could assume he has some foot speed, but I have nothing to back that up.

Wawtawsha

June 3rd, 2009
9:40 am

Good Morning Birdeys !, reading DOL’s blog and the constant informed positive participants has become a regular activity here …how refreshing to find a genuine source of good timely info, positive discussion and analysis develop here over the last 6 months or so.

Wanted to add to the endorsement of exciting expectations for the Bird’s defense this coming season. When BVG was at UGA, he blew up many’a play sending hot blitzes at unexpected times, he kept offenses guessing where the next point of attack might come from, and then sometimes played coverage/take-away when blitz was expected. He rattled many offenses, kept them off-balance. Adjustments made at halftime were very…very… effective. It’s gonna be fun to see the Falcon’s defense become a wreckin ball force under Coach Smith and Coach Van Gorder. INTENSE is the best word i know to sum up how BVG gets his defense to play. And this is only the second season, and the first where defensive talent acquisition was priority. Caint wait !!!

D3

June 3rd, 2009
10:38 am

Attempt #7

Dean21 – what’s up my man? Oh, can’t wait for the tix in the mail so I can pop a brew and celebrate one of the best investments I’ve made in my life. I believe my section is 316, but I’m not sure. The House CEO and I got in on the good deals two years ago when they were making a big push to sell them. I love my seats: great view, Home side, and very reasonably priced. There are plenty of haters out there who would love to see us fail to make up for their own insecurities and issues with their own team. I don’t really want to see hardly any teams do terrible except for the Cowboys. Even though we have earned respect with the NFL Media, there are many fans who don’t want to believe that we could turn it around as quick as we have. 0-3, huh? That guy’s your friend? JK.

Ken Strick – good point about time of year. If we could go up there a steal one from the “Golden Boys” then we might have to start talking about the “process” as in NOW!

falcon21 – yeah, been to some Rome Braves games. Tons of fun, especially on two for tuesdays. I would be shocked if BFinn doesn’t make the squad. I think he is entrenched at #4 WR, with the #5 & #6 spots wide-open. I have a sneaking suspicion that we keep 5 RB’s and 5 WR’s instead of 4 RB’s and 6 WR’s like we did last year. Rather have TBrown & Snelling than say Kelly AND Weems on our active roster.

Alright Gents, a little work and will return with my 49ers OFF vs Falcons DEF prediction/analysis and Roster Spot Analysis – TE#3 a little later. And it looks like we have some hate baiter’s fishing in the ‘Cage: don’t take it!

D3

June 3rd, 2009
10:38 am

Dean21 – what’s up my man? Oh, can’t wait for the tix in the mail so I can pop a brew and celebrate one of the best investments I’ve made in my life. I believe my section is 316, but I’m not sure. The House CEO and I got in on the good deals two years ago when they were making a big push to sell them. I love my seats: great view, Home side, and very reasonably priced. There are plenty of haters out there who would love to see us fail to make up for their own insecurities and issues with their own team. I don’t really want to see hardly any teams do terrible except for the Cowboys. Even though we have earned respect with the NFL Media, there are many fans who don’t want to believe that we could turn it around as quick as we have. 0-3, huh? That guy’s your friend? JK.

D3

June 3rd, 2009
10:39 am

Ken Strick – good point about time of year. If we could go up there a steal one from the “Golden Boys” then we might have to start talking about the “process” as in NOW!

falcon21 – yeah, been to some Rome Braves games. Tons of fun, especially on two for tuesdays. I would be shocked if BFinn doesn’t make the squad. I think he is entrenched at #4 WR, with the #5 & #6 spots wide-open. I have a sneaking suspicion that we keep 5 RB’s and 5 WR’s instead of 4 RB’s and 6 WR’s like we did last year. Rather have TBrown & Snelling than say Kelly AND Weems on our active roster.

Alright Gents, a little work and will return with my 49ers OFF vs Falcons DEF prediction/analysis and Roster Spot Analysis – TE#3 a little later. And it looks like we have some hate baiter’s fishing in the ‘Cage: don’t take it!

D3

June 3rd, 2009
10:39 am

Ken Strick – good point about time of year. If we could go up there a steal one from the “Golden Boys” then we might have to start talking about the “process” as in NOW!

falcon21 – yeah, been to some Rome Braves games. Tons of fun, especially on two for tuesdays. I would be shocked if BFinn doesn’t make the squad. I think he is entrenched at #4 WR, with the #5 & #6 spots wide-open. I have a sneaking suspicion that we keep 5 RB’s and 5 WR’s instead of 4 RB’s and 6 WR’s like we did last year. Rather have TBrown & Snelling than say Kelly AND Weems on our active roster.

D3

June 3rd, 2009
10:40 am

Sorry if re-posts guys, the blog monster is angry with me.

Ken Strick – good point about time of year. If we could go up there a steal one from the “Golden Boys” then we might have to start talking about the “process” as in NOW!

D3

June 3rd, 2009
10:41 am

falcon21 – yeah, been to some Rome Braves games. Tons of fun, especially on two for tuesdays. I would be shocked if BFinn doesn’t make the squad. I think he is entrenched at #4 WR, with the #5 & #6 spots wide-open. I have a sneaking suspicion that we keep 5 RB’s and 5 WR’s instead of 4 RB’s and 6 WR’s like we did last year. Rather have TBrown & Snelling than say Kelly AND Weems on our active roster.

shannyeight

June 3rd, 2009
10:41 am

as far as that WR spot- i like troy coz he has put in work with the georgia force and has the “experience” factor, but watchin kelly play at clemson, that dude is a nice TALL target that ryan could throw to and they could use him and white to stretch the field.

D3

June 3rd, 2009
10:42 am

falcon21 – yeah, been to some Rome Braves games. Tons of fun, especially on two for tuesdays. I would be shocked if BFinn doesn’t make the squad. I think he is entrenched at #4 WR, with the #5 & #6 spots wide-open. I have a sneaking suspicion that we keep 5 RB’s and 5 WR’s instead of 4 RB’s and 6 WR’s like we did last year. Rather have TBrown & Snelling than say Kelly AND Weems on our active roster.

Alright Gents, a little work and will return with my 49ers OFF vs Falcons DEF prediction/analysis and Roster Spot Analysis – TE#3 a little later. And it looks like we have some hate-fishing in the ‘Cage: don’t take it!

D3

June 3rd, 2009
10:43 am

Attempt #9

falcon21 – yeah, been to some Rome Braves games. Tons of fun, especially on two for tuesdays. I would be shocked if BFinn doesn’t make the squad. I think he is entrenched at #4 WR, with the #5 & #6 spots wide-open. I have a sneaking suspicion that we keep 5 RB’s and 5 WR’s instead of 4 RB’s and 6 WR’s like we did last year. Rather have TBrown & Snelling than say Kelly AND Weems on our active roster.

D3

June 3rd, 2009
10:43 am

Alright Gents, a little work and will return with my 49ers OFF vs Falcons DEF prediction/analysis and Roster Spot Analysis – TE#3 a little later. And it looks like we have some hate baiter’s fishing in the ‘Cage: don’t take it!

angry banker

June 3rd, 2009
11:59 am

Ken – I would respectfully disagree on your assesment on Moss v White. You could argue that Moss has gotten older and White has more years ahead of him that Moss – I’ll give you that. But be careful not to get caught up in Football statistics. Statistics mean something in Baseball – they dont mean anything in Football. Watch the tape. Looks at the catches Moss makes – they’re inhuman. And please don’t take this as me being negative – just try to remain objective.

Falcon21 – I don’t see the team cutting Finn just yet. He will have a reduced role being the 4th WR in a sytems that seldom goes to 4 and 5 wide sets. Also, I think we just renegotiated his contract for 2 more years (not too sure on that number – anyone know exactly?).

Wabe – agreed on our DL. It would take everything coming together – the ‘make or break’ season for Jamaal, Trey Lewis and Abraham staying healthy and Peria living up to the hype. This line could be 2nd best in the NFL (only 2nd to Minnesota IMHO) IF everything works out perfectly.

Buck

June 3rd, 2009
1:23 pm

I agree with Jerry, to face four teams coming off a bye, and fairly close together is an outrage. This is the NFL stacking the deck against the Falcons.

D3 – love your posts and your analysis. Been keeping an eye on the BirdCage and I’m really enjoying the pure football talk on these AJC blogs these days. Nice to see that there are folks whose focus is the players, coaches, schedule, opponents and the like without the “other” stuff. Thanks and keep up the nice commentary.

Can’t wait til training camp! Peace…

VICK SUPPORTER 2

June 3rd, 2009
2:57 pm

8-8…..=……NO PLAYOFFS

GO FALCONS!

Unca' Bob

June 3rd, 2009
3:30 pm

Tyson Clabo signed his contract today. Now we need R White and J Norwood.

Dean 21

June 3rd, 2009
3:46 pm

Dean21 – what’s up my man? Oh, can’t wait for the tix in the mail so I can pop a brew and celebrate one of the best investments I’ve made in my life. I believe my section is 316, but I’m not sure. The House CEO and I got in on the good deals two years ago when they were making a big push to sell them. I love my seats: great view, Home side, and very reasonably priced. There are plenty of haters out there who would love to see us fail to make up for their own insecurities and issues with their own team. I don’t really want to see hardly any teams do terrible except for the Cowboys. Even though we have earned respect with the NFL Media, there are many fans who don’t want to believe that we could turn it around as quick as we have. 0-3, huh? That guy’s your friend? JK.

D3, trust me…he was only kidding..although he is a steelers fan, he grew up in the Atl and still has loyalty via his dad with the Falcons! He bumps his head every now and then…lol

Man, I feel ya on the excitement! I’m jacked also…I got a good deal in sec. 128. Because I attended mini-camp, I received a nice discount for season tickets, so I grab them me & my house CEO….I too will be raising my glass when they arrive!

Like always, you are the blogmaster, so keep up the good work! Hopefully I can get the mini-camp date set for the cagers to attend.
Sarah B., let me know when you are ready to begin the “process” (can’t help it…lol)

Ken Strickland

June 3rd, 2009
3:58 pm

ANGRY BANKER-I beg to disagree. Statistics and common sense tells me the opposite. RMoss was the #2 WR on a pass oriented OFF that routinely used 3 and 4 WR sets. RWhite was the primary WR and received constant double and triple teams, while playing in an OFF that was very limited for most to the 1st half of the season, especially the passing OFF. His OFF scheme used the TE sparingly in the passing OFF and seldom used 4 WR sets, which leaves a naked backfield and the QB unprotected beyond the line of scrimmage.

The fact RWhite caught more passes than RMoss(88-69), gained more yds(1382) than either Moss(1008) or WWelker(1165), who caught more passes(111) for less yardage than White, demonstrates he was a better longball threat than RMoss or Welker, and/or did a better job of gaining yds after the catch. When RMoss was the primary WR in Oakland, he became totally frustrated because he couldn’t handle the double teams he faced as the primary WR. In fact, the Vikings traded him because he started openly venting his frustration as a result of the difficulty he was having dealing with the double teams he started facing after primary WR Chris Carter left. RWhite has been the primary WR since he started his 1st gm, and has been very successful consistently beating double and triple teams. BOTTOMLINE, THE FACKTS PROVE THAT RWHITE IS A BETTER OVERALL WR THAN RMOSS AND A BETTER LONG BALL THREAT THAN WWELKEN.

D3-The Falcons have constructed an OFF with a strong rushing attack, much like the one the Steelers had with the BUS, that made is so much easier for QB BIG BEN. Our OFF isn’t QB dependent like the Colts. The Patriots did pretty good last yr with their 2nd string QB running the show. CRedman is a solid QB and is simular to MRyan as far as passing accuracy and leadership are concerned. I don’t see our OFF losing much with him in control. Every other aspect of our OFF, and DEF for that matter, will be improved over last yr, and with the addition of prolific TE TGonzalez, what would possibly cause QB MRyan to regress in his 2nd season. Why concern yourself with the opinions of so called self appointed experts. AREN’T THESE THE SAME SO CALLED EXPERTS AND PROGNOSTICATORS THAT PREDICTED QB MRYAN WOULD BE A FAILURE IN HIS ROOKIE YR AS THE STARTING QB FOR THE WOEFUL ATLANTA FALCONS?

Dean 21

June 3rd, 2009
4:49 pm

Ken Strickland…The argument I’m hearing is that the only reason Roddy had that type of season last year was soely because of Matt Ryan and if Tom Brady would have not been hurt, then Randy Moss season totals would have been different and surely ahead of Roddy. Now, I understand that Matt C. is no Tom Brady but Matt is rating is better than both our back up QB’S, so maybe that excuse is not valid.

Dean 21

June 3rd, 2009
5:02 pm

Sarah B., Let’s select a time and date to hold our training camp visit for the cagers!

For the fourth consecutive year, the Falcons will hold Russell Falcons Training Camp at the team’s Flowery Branch headquarters. Atlanta’s 43rd training camp will be held from July 25-August 15, with select morning and afternoon practices open to the public. Admission is free.

The Falcons will hold 30 practices, which include 13 two-a-day sessions. Atlanta will travel to Jacksonville on August 9 for its first preseason contest followed by two home preseason games against Indianapolis the day after training camp breaks (August 16) and Tennessee (August 22). The Falcons will conclude the 2008 preseason schedule with a meeting against the Baltimore Ravens on August 28 at M&T Bank Stadium.

JJ

June 3rd, 2009
5:04 pm

angry banker – I have to agree with you on the subject of moss vs. white. Due to their age diff., of course I would not trade them. Moss will be in the hof, roddy (although gifted) is not even close to that. Like you stated, moss makes some insane catches, in-between, over the heads of defenders. Another diff. between the two- game is on the line and the last play is a difficult post-out…who do you want? Just ask Denver! No disrespect, roddy is young and will have many oppt. to win games, but moss does not drop game winning balls. He’s like s. smith, they find a way, WILL a way to make that catch in double coverage!

No disrespect Coach K, IMHO, moss is a better receiver than roddy, but thats why they play the games and that could change. I will be rooting for our guy!!!

Mave2124

June 3rd, 2009
5:17 pm

DOL, No more blogs until Mid-July…what’s with that…there are 3 more weeks of OTAs??? I appreciate the need for vaca, but dude, head off on June 19th, LOL! Anyhow, have Chris hold it down or something. There should also be some good stories about guys to write during this period. When June 19th hits, it is going to be real bad, no real football news (except rook signings) until August!

JJ

June 3rd, 2009
5:32 pm

D3 – tks for the bbq! I bet your pretty proud (like myself) that no one went fishing!!! They will be back in force come august, but a little practice for all the new and veteran ‘cagers will be good practice.

Fishing: Bloggers who come on and spew their hatred for our players or for players that used to play for us. Race is not a factor on this blog unless you don’t bleed red ‘n black! We try our best (not always successful, myself included) to not respond to the haters that crawl on to this blog. Recognition is their oxygen, so we kill them with silence.

Hope I didn’t just give oxygen!

jason

June 3rd, 2009
6:48 pm

What’s up Bird Cage? Been running crazy lately. Looking at somewhat of a career change. Usually don’t have much time to post. Have been keeping up on the reading though. Fal 21, I have to disagree with you on Finn. Finn is the SUPREME go to man on 3rd down. He was with MV and is now with MR2.

Ken, I get what you are saying about Moss. It seems to me also that he has done nothing by himself. There is always a #1 WR oppisite except for OAK where he had probably hi worst year. He was a forgotten man there. Not saying he’s not good… just not one of the all time greats. Moss doesn’t strike me as physical. Atheletic, with out a question.

angry banker, Glad you joined and welcome to the cage. Nothing like another football to pick and get educated by. You Sir are on par with D3, Ken, Unca Bob, and JJ. Great posts.

Wawtawsha, Kind of wished BVG was still at UGA, but ambition calls. I think that’s why TD and Smitty went after faster more man cover DBs. Opening up a Pandora’s Box full of blitzes.

Saw the “Fishing”. I get amused. Need a good laugh from time to time. I will be gone from time to time. Will be checking in though, and with time permitted, I will drop a post. Keep it loose, and keep dropping the info.

Nookah

June 3rd, 2009
7:12 pm

Greetings Falcon Nation. My schedule is killing me these days. However, before I posted I caught up on my reading and I am so proud of all my fellow citizens keeping the Cage humming. It’s so good to read the views and opinions here. I think it was on my last blog I posted Falcons 24 – NE 21.

I agree with Ken on our OFF and our defense will surprise many, just not us. We’ll be fine.

D3, worry not thyself about the naysayers for they too will be convinced later next season. I just can’t wait until next season.

My only concern is about the 4 teams we play after their byes. I’m not really worried about the percentages but in this league the week of rest does refresh your team and allows you to better prepare for your opponent. Hopefully we’ll be able to at least win the 2 of those games we have at home. If we go at least 2-2 there, we will be fine.

Don’t worry about us signing Roddy & Norwood. This management underdstands the importance of “continuing the process”. They will be signed.

GO Falcons!!!!…………THOU SHALT NOT RUN!!!!

Nuff respect everytime!!!

In this life, in this life, in this oh sweet life, we’re coming in from the cold……Robert Nesta Marley

D3

June 3rd, 2009
7:14 pm

Great Hump-day Evening Bird-Cage Gents and Gals! Gotta love getting through wednesday work, knowing that Thursday is around the corner(aka known as the opening shot of the weekend). In my college days, Thursdays were way crazier than Fridays; as I look back I really don’t get that one. Anyway, to Falcons & Football………

Buck – thanks man. Many of us have made a concerted effort to “Talk real, intelligent football with cool fans” as we like to say. Come join us in the Bird-Cage anytime. Any and all fans are welcome (we’ve even had some great discussions with Tampa Bay and Redskins fans). Look forward to hearing more from you.

Dean21 – nice seats! We need to meet up and have some brewskis before some of the games. Getting season tix last year has made me enjoy NFL Football more than the B(ull***+)CS College Football. I get sick of the same teams being gagged and drooled over. It’s just all about the money. Don’t get me wrong, I still love my ‘Dogs on Saturday, but given the choice between a random NFL game and random College game, give me NFL all-day. Begin the “process” for us bloggers now! If we keep chatting it up here in the blog, than imagine how jacked we’ll be when Training Camp gets here.

Coach Ken – exactly on Big Ben and Joe Flacco for that matter. I was watching the “Top 10 Rookie Seasons” on NFL Network and Matty Ice wasn’t on there, but Big Goofy was #10. Matty Ice did it with a new head coach, new GM, and a patchwork defense.

Mave – we’re trying the best we can to fill the void while DOL is gone. I was hoping to get more info. from OTA’s, but basically its just a bunch of attendance reports b/c evidently those OTA’s are closed to the media. We’ll get there by rockin’ some great discussions here in the ‘Cage. Come join us on a more regulary basis, we welcome your excellent insights.

JJ – Beaming with pride on the No Fishing Policy we’ve introduced in here. Its amazing how they just kind of disappear with “oxygen”. Love that quote.

More later fellas. 49ers OFF vs Falcons DEF matchups finally coming tonight along with a solid TE#3 Roster Spot Analysis. Later Gents!

falcon21

June 3rd, 2009
7:46 pm

Jason, I have no problem with you or anyone else who disagrees with me. I got a good response from you, D3, Ken, and Angry Banker and nothing was negative. I like Finn and I hope we keep him but you know how the NFL is. Nothing negative about others opinions is what makes this blog fun to read and with all the football knowledge of some of you guys, it helps make the off-season a little more enjoyable!!!GO FALCONS

Unca' Bob

June 3rd, 2009
8:26 pm

Nookah,

I understand your concerns about the other teams bye weeks. There seems to be a lot of shakin’ down about it. My real concern is Atlanta draws theirs so early. The powers that be have not smiled upon us. They appear to have a New Orleans kind of veiw. Y’all look it up and let me know what you think.

WR

June 3rd, 2009
8:35 pm

I guess I returned to the cage just in time to stir up some trouble and back up my fellow brother JJ. Before I dive right in, its always amazing how troubled but outstanding players get thrown under the bus. No one and I mean no one has been able to stop or shut down ready Moss except the Oakland Raiders. As much as some may disagree the same can be said for Terrell Owens. I love the Falcons, I am excited about the progress White has made, but to put him in the same class as Randy Moss is going a bit overboard. Moss is now getting a little longer in the teeth but in his prime he was an unstoppable force, even as an elder of the NFL he is an unstoppable force. Lets really look at the receivers around him, did Cris Carter make him better or did he make Cris Carter better, as I recall Moss commanded double and triple coverage because he was so feared, now if I’m a good receiver as Carter was I can take advantage of single coverage because Moss takes away the threat of double coverage, Oakland was a wash they haven’t had a reliable quarterback in years so lets move on to NE. My guess is that some think Wes Walker is the number one receiver, without Moss on the outside where would he be, my guess is that he would be in the same place as the other so-called good to great receivers that have left NE to become no names, NE mix and matches receivers for their system, they take the unwanted, outcast receivers and turn them into pro-bowlers, now those same receivers leave and go elsewhere because of inflated egos and fall on their face. Why do you think that when they got a top-notch proven receiver like Moss all the experts predicted they would go undefeated which they did until they lost in the Superbowl. Experts were predicting doom for the Falcons before they got a proven commmodity in Gonzalez, while some still aren’t all that optimistic, they do feel that the offense will be great. Point is the Falcons added a proven commodity. You want to see what kind of receiver Wes Walker truly is, look this upcoming season on Sunday’s at Harry Douglas, you take a good slot receiver,Douglas, add a pro bowler on one of the outside spots, an adequate if not good receiver on the other outside spot and a pro-bowl TE and you heard it here first, you will have your new Wes Walker.

Ken Strickland

June 3rd, 2009
8:44 pm

DEAN21-Whoever believes that seems to have forgotten RWhite was selected to the Probowl the yr before QB MRyan was drafted. RPetrino was the HC, and as you know, our OFF was so unstable we went through 3 different starting QB’s(JHarrington, BLeftwich & CRedmon). RWhite trived as a WR despite the QB round robin and the overall team adversity suffered under RPetrino. On the other hand, RMoss fell apart in Oakland and started acting like the pouting spoiled punk he becomes whenever things for him aren’t just right.

Dave

June 3rd, 2009
9:04 pm

“Grimes isn’t the biggest player on the roster (he’s 5-foot-10 in cleats and 185 pounds in a sweat-soaked jersey) but the undrafted player is, according to Head Coach Mike Smith, “the most athletic player” on the roster”.

This quote keeps replaying in my head. Ever since Coach Smith came to Atlanta he has always been deliberate and succinct with his comments during interviews. IMO, this is an incredibly telling comment and a bold statement. I think Grimes is, in Smith’s mind, the leading candidate to start opposite Houston. Most everyone rips him for being short but many more times than not last year he had tight coverage on his assigned receiver, displayed an amazing gift in timing his jumps to disrupt passes, and that was in spite of being thrown into the fire with not much experience against elite caliber WR’s. Does anyone dis Steve Smith for being short?

Foxworth was definitely as upgrade but the cost to keep him was just too high. Grimes was learning on the job last year then got dinged up a bit and maybe hit a mental and physical wall to boot. This year he is more experienced, stronger, and… hungry. Also, “the most athletic player” on the roster. Was Smith’s comment made to light a fire under the competition? I believe it’s more likely he believes what he said. For someone who typically holds his cards close to the vest, it was a bold statement. Just MHO.

Wabe

June 3rd, 2009
10:02 pm

Personally, I think Mike Smith has a point about Grimes. Foxworth played well last season, and he was clearly our best DB. But honestly, the money he commanded in the offseason wasn’t worth it. Like I said in an earlier post, the Falcons are going to be banking on an upgraded Front 7. If the front 7 plays well, it will benefit players like Grimes, who likes to play receivers tight and bump them a bit.

A SOLID FRONT 7 WILL BENEFIT A YOUNG/QUICK/INEXPERIENCED SECONDARY!

When talking about DB’s, personally, I like both Grimes and Chevis Jackson. Jackson displays ballhawk abilites. At 6′2, he matches up with some bigger receivers and offers a bit more size on the other side of Chris Houston. Grimes plays receivers aggressive and honestly, based on the effort/ability he puts forth, you wouldn’t think of him as being an undrafted player. His leaping ability is ridiculous and just the confidence/swagger he brings to the field is definately a net plus.

Still too early, but as of now, I’m banking on Chevis Jackson to win the other starting CB spot. His size gives him an instant advantage.

jason

June 3rd, 2009
10:21 pm

WR, You just made me rethink the Moss debate; Compared to Welker. Remember, Carter helped alot in making the WR that Moss has become. I always looked at Moss as a deep threat. But tat’s his role. Stretch the field and open everything up underneath. I guess that’s one reason they call it a team sport.

Dave, great post on Grimes. He seems to get lost because of his size. It’s not that he is short. The majority of the CBs on the roster are in that 5′10″ range. Grimes is …. small. You are right though in the fact that he could very well end up starting oppsite Houston. That is going to be one hot battle. Are we sure that Houston is locked in on one side? That might be the more important question.

falcon21, No harm to me. I like a good debate. I feel I learn something every time. If Finn gets cut because of one of the FAs. Then that FA is going to be a hell of a pickup for ATL.

Unca’ Bob, The bye weeks are going to be a problem. I am hoping for a split, also. The thin with ATL’s bye, is yes it is early from a rest and health stand point, but I like it where it is from an evaluation stand point. ATL will have finished playing three tough games against at leats to HOF coaches (if you take the “TUNA’s” inputin Miami). I think that is a good time to look at what you have. Especially your rookies against the vets. Are there any depth chart moves needed? How is Anderson playing, Houston, Nicolas? How is Jerry looking? What are we getting fromJackson, Owens? Things like that. The big issue for me is ATL staying healthy. They avoided that for the most part last year. If the bug hits this year, ATL will be playing alot of young players. They may be talented, but this is the NFL.

Dean21

June 3rd, 2009
10:29 pm

Ken Strickland, I’m sure you coached a time or two in your career, but you sir also could be a great analyst for any major network! I do recall that which is the argument I brought up. Roddy has been improving every year in the league even under different QB’S and offensive coordinators. Although Randy Moss is still very talented and has had somewhat of a great career, you still cannot short change Roddy’s improvement and future potential.

Jason…wassup man, I thought you followed DOL to vacation city..lol
Glad to see you returned to the cage.

Dean21

June 3rd, 2009
10:33 pm

D3, It will not be a problem sir…I’m sure we will meet first at the Branch during Training Camp. Now I have to re-think my overall Falcons first 3 games again. Although I would love for us to be 4-0 after the 49ers game, it’s highly unlikely…so I will say we will be 2-1 heading into that game and come out 3-1….

Falcons 31-17

jason

June 3rd, 2009
10:35 pm

I am around, barely. Been hectic in San Antone. I have got alot of stuff rattling in the noggin. I am transfering into the Army. Hopefully, getting stationed at Ft. Gordon. Got my fingers crossed. I can go see my Falcons and my DAWGS from time to time. Also got that little vacation to Disney World with my son in late July.

But enough of that. Just watched the Braves lose a tough game. Kids in the bed, wife somewhere in the house doing something, so I am stilling a little me time on the blog.

I thought that Moss debate was about to get heated. Alot of down time so we need to find some good topics to discuss.

jason

June 3rd, 2009
10:37 pm

Dean21, who is the one loss going to be to? I am curious, because as much as I want ATL to be 4-0, I am leaning toward 3-1, also.

Dean21

June 3rd, 2009
10:45 pm

Re-post. I wanted to run this post again to see if I can get some feedback. It appears that the New England has some of us in the air. Again, I polled a so-called friend of mines and below is his comments of us winning this game:
D3,Jason, Unca Bob, Sarah B., Stirg, Ken S….you know I was talking to a friend of mines yesterday, well now he may be an ex-friend (lol)
I put this question to him…I said dude..Do you think my Atlanta Falcons can go up to Foxborough and beat the Patriots…? He looked at me and said H*ll Nah! They even may loose by 46 points…trust me, I almost hit him in his mouth! then I said noooooooo, violence is not the answer! Let’s just let the action on the field prove my theory of why I think we will win this game. I know that most people and some teams fear “Tom Brady” but he and the Patriots can be beat! and since my friend is a Steelers fan and have had success against the Patriots, he felt the need to be disrespectful…(all in fun though)and to conclude, he stated after game #3, we would be winless – (0-3). I said dude, just wait and see…watch how we defend the dome!

Trust me, I shared this story because the naysayers are still out there even though we went 11-5 including a play-off game. I’m one to believe in the process and i’m positive we will finally get our back to back winning season this year!!

Now we will bring mostly a young team to New England and it will be sort of a Homecoming game for Matt Ryan, I said earlier that I had to re-think this game and I have my fingers cross that we will win this game, but I have to say that it may end up a close lost…but surely not a blow-out! The key factor with this young team is that they never experienced back to back losses last year, so should we loose this game, again I see us taking the 49ers game.

Give me your thought cagers!

Welcome to the new Falcon Bird Cager’s also!

Dean21

June 3rd, 2009
10:46 pm

Jason, IMHO it will be the New England game, I just don’t see us dropping our first 2 home games.

Dean21

June 3rd, 2009
10:49 pm

Jason, my brother is in the Army and was at Ft Gordon and now he ha been transfered to NC..although he comes home every now and then, he is getting ready for his 4th tour in Iraq in December…I surely hope you get stationed here and my prayers are with you & your family!

Dave

June 3rd, 2009
10:57 pm

Jason, you are correct. Houston is not a lock to start at CB. I do think he’s the most likely candidate though. CB will be a particularly interesting competition and in any event, I expect we will see lots of rotation there to keep this speedy D fresh.

Thanks to all for the excellent writing and thoughtful opinions on the Falcon blogs this year.

jason

June 3rd, 2009
10:59 pm

I was thinking that also. I see a very close game. I was going 24-21 ATL. Last min. drive for the long FG. Now I am on the fence. If we win that game, on the road, that would be huge. If we lose that game playing our best (lose close) I think we will be alright in the long run. I see these 2 teams going seperate ways. ATL will continue to grow and get better regardless of the outcome. N.E. will start to slip and ahow their age a little bit. Will they make the play offs, who knows. They will not be going to the Super Bowl. I say they do make the playoffs,but be out in one game. Their defense will really start to age. No young talent to surround that MLB.

jason

June 3rd, 2009
11:01 pm

Dave, I think you are going to see interchangable starters at CB at the onset of the seaon. Who knows could run that way all season, unless someone truly steps up.

jason

June 3rd, 2009
11:08 pm

New beer alert. For me anyway. ZiegenBock. Good beer with a soft carmel flavor. I have a buddy here who is a Texas boy, and about all he drinks is Texas brew (shinerBock).

jason

June 3rd, 2009
11:12 pm

ATL has enough young talent on the team as a whole to push the older players. You can see in the DBs. Owens, Jackson, and Middleton are going to push Houston, Grimes, and Hutchins to either get better, or push them to the bench or right off the team. If ATL goes 5 CBs, I see Hutchins being the odd man out. Being hurt last year is really going to cost him.

D3

June 3rd, 2009
11:20 pm

Great Late One ‘Cage Bro’s! I wanted to rattle off some serious posts after seeing how active the Bird-Cage has been this evening. but I’ve been going non-stop today straight from work to home with my little guy to a honey-do list from the House CEO. Worn the F— out. One of these days my San Fran predictions are going to come, but no need now since we got so many convo’s going. Great to see the activity here even though its a serious down-time. Feeling some excellent Mojo here in the Bird-Cage. To our Falconie’s………

Wawtaw – meant to say it earlier, but we welcome you here in the ‘Cage anytime you want to come in and join in the debate. It has definitely become an addictive(maybe even unhealthy) hobby for many of us.

JJ – quote of the day my man: “don’t give the hate fishers any oxygen”, love it! They just breathe our carbon dioxide and slowly slink on out of here, isn’t it nice?

Nookah – great to hear from you today my ‘Nesta Brother! I too worry abou the byes because we seriously got screwed on that one. I worry about the Bears and Giants because they have top-notch coaching staffs who can use the extra week effectively, not worried about the Redskins and Cowboys because those chuckle-heads could have a month and they wouldn’t improve.

WR – where you been my bro’? I figured you passed out on da’ beach with too many scripes or Coronas. Good point about Welker and HD comparison. I remember someone (Mel Kiper maybe?) mentioning that comparison when TD drafted him last year. Plays perfect role for that slot and great complement to our big studs on the outside. Also went to the middle school I teach at, albeit way before I was there.

Dave – good insights man. I was pretty shocked to hear Smitty say that about Grimes. Love his heart, ferocity, fight, and work ethic; but I can’t get that Carolina game in Charlotte out of my head. Muhsin Muhammed dish-ragged him and flat out abused him all game. He couldn’t even come close to stopping him. My money’s on Houston & Chevis Jackson at CB’s and Chris Owens or Brent Grimes in Nickel.

jason – what’s up brother? Been missin’ your mad skills here in the ‘Cage. I figured you were swamped. Best of luck in your job transfer. Would love for you to make it back to good ol’ GA so we can get together for brews and grillin’. On a side note, I’m getting a pretty bad feeling that our Dawgs aren’t going to be that great this year, especially with Justin Houston being suspended, John Knox transferring, No RB’s stepping up, and all WR’s getting hurt or transferring. I was hoping for a 2005-Shockley repeat, but its looking more like a 2006 repeat. Hope I’m wrong.

Dean21 – I’m right there with you on the 49ers game. I’ve been meaning to lay down my analysis, but there’s been so many posts to respond to, there’s simply no need. Its a good problem to have.

Great day/night in the Bird-Cage my brothers. Gotta hit it to bed and get some shut-eye, 5-30 comes mighty early. See you on the flip side. And on that note……….

56 DAYS AND COUNTING TO 2009 ATLANTA FALCONS TRAINING CAMP!!!!!!!

Stirg d'Nahsif

June 3rd, 2009
11:21 pm

Abraham made an appearence in OTA today, huh, with an explanation that “(he)…needs time away from football to recover and refresh.”

I’m not going to even touch that one. I’m going to leave that for y’all to play with. Have at it. Good night!

Dean21

June 3rd, 2009
11:31 pm

Stirg – I’m all for it if leads him to a 17 or more sacks this year. A wise man knows his body and what he can produce out of it…

Jason – yeah, we could see a nice rotation in the defensive backfield..I keep thinking back to Coach Smitty defensive units in Jacksonville, man they were hitters! I know he is bringing that style to the Falcons!

D3 – Have a good one my brother…yeah 5:30am is a monster to wake up to and it’s 30 mins before quitting time for me.

jason

June 3rd, 2009
11:32 pm

D3, why the concern over the DAWGS? What have you heard? I know about Houston and knox. Also about Wilson. Is there anything else. Last year D was injured, and youngsters didn’t step up. D is going to be good with Geno and Jeff back 100%. Our LBs need to step. Calling them out. If you are not Curran, you need to step up. That Frosh CB is going to play early. The O will come, might take a couple of ganes to take off. Have to find that RB. I am thinking Samuel. WR looks good with Green and Moore. Just not alot of depth. The OL will set the tone, and give Cox protection. Cox = R handed Greene.

I know this is a FAL blog, but couldn’t help myself. D3 started it.

jason

June 3rd, 2009
11:33 pm

Stirg d’Nahsif, You are so wrong on many levels. lol!!1 Stirring the pot!!!

jason

June 3rd, 2009
11:36 pm

Dean21, D3 sees Jackson starting. I like him in the nickel because of the physical play he brings. But Jackson vs. someone like Muhaamaad, or a Owens type WR would be sick. They won’t be muscling Jackson off the ball. LSU, Their DBs always bring physicality to the game.

jason

June 3rd, 2009
11:39 pm

Guys the past hour or so has been a blast. Almost found my groove again. Last post for the night, gotta get in bed myself. I will be checking in tomorrow just for Stirg d’Nahsif’s posts. Good night all see ya tomorrow.

Sarah B

June 4th, 2009
1:41 am

Hello everybody – plane has landed in Vegas, just cracked a brew and am ready to relax on Vaca!!! Nice active blog tonight. Dean21 nice seats I myself am 342 row 6 but not bad seats at all. Looking forward to hooking up at training camp for sure, let’s get this party started! Oh and thunk your Steeler friend on the head for me, he is full of it. Defend the Dome we will indeed. Not sure on the NE game outcome but hoping for the best. I had us going 8-8 last losing at GB and SD and we know how that turned out – Any Given Sunday as they say!

Sarah B

June 4th, 2009
1:43 am

Jason, me too on the Stirg posts. I think he has a man crush on Abe. Being I just arrived in Vegas I’m probably the only one up so I’ll sign out for the night. Hey Reno911 I’m in your state… Nite!

Dean21

June 4th, 2009
4:51 am

Sarah B…may lady….$$..luck shine on you during your stay! I totally forgot you were vegas bound, but read a couple of post and found out you were leaving Wed. I was in Vegas a couple of years ago and WOW what a city! I mean, so much to do….I didn’t give it my best so I will be returning next year to do vegas real good! This year was my initial investment into the birds! Yeah, I’m siked for those seats and trust me, I’m bringing sec 128 new life! (lol)…

When you return, we will get together and set up our bird cage gathering, yeah we will surely have it rocking at the branch!
Whatever you do in Vegas, just do it well!! Drink & be merry and also highly intox!!!

What friend? Oh that so called steelers fan? hmmmmm I think he received bird droppings on his head and he’s been hospitalized!!

Again, I’m concerned with the first 3 games as it will build a positive or negative outlook on our season. I just know we have to beat Miami and Carolina and hopefully at 2-0, our confidence will lead us over the pats!

About to leave for Dean’s nest…see you cagers later today!

GO FALCONS!!!!!

JJ

June 4th, 2009
7:28 am

Stirg….You’re boy has arrived, you must be so proud! j/k, all in good fun my brotha!

Sarah B…If I was there, I’d put at least a $100 on the over/under for falcon wins! I think it’s at 8 wins. Keep hydrated!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

crabapplejoe

June 4th, 2009
8:32 am

WR wrote: “My guess is that some think Wes Walker is the number one receiver, without Moss on the outside where would he be, my guess is that he would be in the same place as the other so-called good to great receivers that have left NE to become no names, NE mix and matches receivers for their system, they take the unwanted, outcast receivers and turn them into pro-bowlers, now those same receivers leave and go elsewhere because of inflated egos and fall on their face.”

Wes Welker was not exactly an “unwanted, outcast” receiver when NE picked him up. He was the leading receiver for Miami the year NE traded two draft picks for him. Welker had almost single handedly beat NE the year before in two games and Belichick didn’t want to see him twice a year going forward. Two years ago Sports Illustrated did a side box which diagramed a 3rd down play in which Welker got the double coverage which opened up the field for Brady to throw deep to Moss for a TD. It works both ways. Welker has been a baller from High School through College and now the pros. He’s caught more balls than anyone in the NFL the last two years….we need to prepare for him if we want to beat NE.

D3

June 4th, 2009
9:41 am

Excellent Thursday A.M. Brothers! Gotta love thursdays, even ones where its supposed to rain all day. The weekends go from Thursday – Sunday in my household. Really excited the see the ‘Cage has picked up some serious steam and is rockin’ well. Lets hit it………..

j-man – just got got this uneasy feeling about our Dawgs. Can’t put my finger on it, its just there. Maybe it was that collapse we had on DEF. If we have another year of DEF like last years, good bye Willie Martinez. I’m so happy about BVG being with our Falcons, but our DEF has been on a steay decline since he left. I’ll have to check out that brew you mentioned.

Stirg – great to here from you my man. No comment on Abe? C’mon now we here in the ‘Cage know you better than that.

j-man(2) – yeah, Chevis Jackson seems to be the forgotten man with all this talk of Grimes & Chris Owens. The guy may not be as fast as Owens or Grimes, but makes up for it with his physical nature, ball skills, and awareness. The guy made some serious plays in the slot. I would love to see Grimes in the slot and Jackson/Houston manning the corners with Chris Owens coming in on dime situations.

Sarah B. – have some Sol’s, enjoy the pool, hit the slots, and have a blast! Check in with us here in the ‘Cage. Definitely lay down some money on the Falcons as JJ said.

More Later………

Ken Strickland

June 4th, 2009
10:37 am

WR-please don’t get me wrong about RMoss, because I think he’s been an outstanding WR at doing what he does best. He didn’t receive constant double and triple teams when he was with the Vikings. That honor was given to HOF WR Chris Carter, who was the primary threat long and short all over the field. RMoss has been primarily a one dimensional WR that’s excelled at catching the long ball. He’s never been much of a precision route runner, clutch or 3rd down receiver, especially if it required going over the middle or breaking a tackle and getting yds after the catch. In these areas, RMoss isn’t in RWhite’s class. And, over the last 2yrs, RMoss hasn’t been able to match RWhite in any receiving category except TD passes caught.

I see RMoss as a secondary WR, much like former Falcon Peerless Price was. When PPrice left the Bills, and the protection of primary WR EMould, and came to the Falcons to become our primary WR. He was a complete failure because like RMoss, he couldn’t handle the requirements and resposibilities of being a primary WR and going up against the oppositions top DB’s. After the Falcons released him, and he signed with the Cowboys, he had the same problem. It wasn’t until he returned to Buffalo, and became the scondary WR behind EMould again, did he have any impact as a WR.

RMoss’ effectiveness started to decline after CCarter left the Vikings. Teams realized he was allergic to contact and could be handled one on one by physical CB’s that jammed him hard coming off the line. His way of dealing with these adversities, and the subsequent inconsistency, was to claim he played when he wanted(DO YOU REMEMBER THAT INFAMOUS COMMENT?) or refusing to go out on the field. He was reacting to not being able to dominate like he did when CCarter assumed the pressure of being the primary receiver, and he was tired of getting his butt kicked by physical CB’s at the line of scrimmage. The truth is he’s proven he can’t handle the responsibilities and requirements of being a primary WR, and proved it again with the Raiders. Without CCarter and WWelker leading the way, he’s been either inconsistent or a nonfactor. In both cases, he became a constant distraction for his team and both teams parted ways with him.

RMOSS HAS ALWAYS BEEN MORE SPECTACULAR, CONTROVERSIAL AND COMMANDED MORE MEDIA ATTENTION THAN RWHITE, BUT HE’S NEVER BEEN AS GOOD AS RWHITE IS NOW. SOME MIGHT LIKE RMOSS BETTER, BUT RWHITE IS BETTER.

CRABAPPLEJOE-what’s up old friend? You make an excellent point about WWelker being an accomplished WR before coming to the Patriots. The Patriots passing OFF didn’t make Welker, if anything, he’s helped remake the Patrionts OFF, and RMoss.

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June 4th, 2009
10:39 am

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GO FALCONS!

Stirg d'Nahsif

June 4th, 2009
10:57 am

I’m not going to take the bait, D3. Nope; not going to do it. The last time I expressed myself, I was accused of snapping on my lil’ shawty (What’s up Sarah B?) and I almost blew a Ramen Noodles & Red Scripe engagement with WR & the Crew.

Nope…Hell No! “I’m not going to fall for the banana in the tailpipe”. I’ll save my Abe comments for him, during camp and pre-season. I figure I can rev him up and get him ready for regular season. You know, some people tend to play a little bit better when they here people talking about them. Matter of fact, I wonder if some of my past comments reached Abe. Is that why he suddenly decided to show up for OTA? I thought he was working out on a “self-maintenance” program? Suddenly, he shows up?

You know what? I said I wasn’t going to do this. I’m not going to do this. (rubbing the temples) Woo-Sah! Woo-Sah! Woo-Sah!

D3

June 4th, 2009
11:28 am

Stirg – love the “banana in the tailpipe” metaphor. Did you happen to get that from Beverly Hills Cop? Great stuff

Falcons DEF vs 49ers OFF

Running
Frank Gore is one of the best RB’s in the NFL. Period. Even though he can go stretches when he disappears, overall he’s one of the toughest runners in the game with game-breaking ability. He’s been able to do what he’s done with SF’s O-Line and lack of weapons up until last year. Nicholas, Peterson, and Lofton look to have their hands full with Gore; but Peterson’s leadership and Lofton/Nicholas’ athleticism should offset that. Their O-Line doesn’t scare me in the least. Our new look DL Rotation should have a field day on them getting hits, sacks, knockdowns, and pressures in the backfield. Abe & JA should have several sacks and Jerry/Babs/Lewis should be tearing up their interior line, especially. Vernon Davis is reaching bust status quick after being picked #6 overall in the draft a couple of years ago. He may be a decent blocker, but his pass skills aren’t jack(more on that in a minute). As with many games, we stop Gore and this one looks to get away from the niners quickly. Multiple sack game from our DL and LB corps.

Passing
Vernon Davis is reaching bust status very quickly. He had done pretty sub-par after being drafted so highly. Even with his size he is not much of a red-zone threat. He’s had several years of “breakout” years to no avail. Peterson and DeCoud/Moore will have no problem taking away this weapon. The WR’s finally had a pretty good year with Long-tooth Bruce having almost a 1,000 yd year. How much longer can he keep up that pace. Bryant Johnson is average and caught less than 500 yds with a handful of toucdowns. Michael Crabtree is the x-factor. I know he was very highly regarded, but personally I think he’s over-hyped from being in a conference with the worst Defenses in College Football. He very well may turn out to be a stud WR, but not this year. Houston handles Bruce, Jackson handles rookie Crabtree, and we shut them down. Still no long-term QB. Shaun Hill taking them to the promised land? I think not.

angry banker

June 4th, 2009
12:50 pm

crabapplejoe – good call on Welker. I was still living in Florida when he played for Miami – the kid did everything. Kick off and punt returns, was the leading reciever… everything he could – with Daman Huard throwing to him!! He reminds me alot of Tim Dwight from the Falcons run in the late 90s – only with better hands.

WR

June 4th, 2009
12:53 pm

Stirg, what happened to stirring thinks up in the cage, I can’t believe you didn’t take the bait, I guess I’ll take my scripes and Ramem noodles and just stay home.

Sarah, did you take the bathing suit because guess what, it wouldn’t be needed here, its raining once again, you would think as much as you talk about the rain you would at least have took it with you.

Ken, I get somewhat of what your talking about with Moss but I have to disagree with you on the coverages he faced during the Carter years and I also disagree with his decline being a result of Carter leaving. Carter himself has stated time and time again that the sky was the limit for Moss, he also made it well know that he was able to do alot because for the first time in his career he had a running mate who took the double coverages away from him. Now when considering both, Brad Johnson was the starting QB in 98 until he got hurt, Randall Cunningham came on had an unbelievable year and we all know how that ended. The next year Randall came back down to earth, Brad was eventually traded to Tampa and neither receiver blossomed without a decent starting QB. Eventually Carter retired and without a decent QB Moss became a sore spot for the team, he was traded to Oakland who also failed to have a decent QB and later to NE who may have the best QB and what happened. Your right Moss is not much of an over the middle type receiver, but if you watched the same Falcons games I watched last year you will notice that Roddy wasn’t doing the over the middle work much either, which made the acquistion of Tony Gonzalez important. White has excelled and hopefully he will continue to excel but Randy Moss didn’t pile up all the TD’s and yards over the yards just because he out ran or jumped people deep, if that was the case it would make a DC stupid or Moss superman. Good receivers need good receivers around them, the best receiver in my time has been Jerry Rice, but Jerry Rice always had good compliments around him and he had two hall of fame QBs throwing to him, so compare his stats to Moss stats and you can easily see that it takes a great receiver to accomplish what Moss has done.

jason

June 4th, 2009
12:55 pm

D3, Just found out the ZegonBock is only sold in Texas, But the Shiner’s are good also. There are like 8 different types, From dark to light brews.

I have seriously got to look at SF, and drop some analysis.

To respond to your post on the CBs. I agree with Grimes playing the slot. With his atheleticsm, he could keep up with a Welker type across the middle fighting through all the traffic. I am also still sold on Owens starting before the year is out. What TD said about watching him for 2 years has stuck with me. That was about as huge a compliment as the one Smitty gave Grimes regarding his atheleticsm.

Stirg d'Nahsif

June 4th, 2009
1:17 pm

Yeah, D3; that quote belongs to Axel Foley. Thanks

I’m with you on Frisco; however, I do believe that the x-factor will be Coach Singletary. He had half a season to gather a 53-man roster an establish cohesion. You know what, they stilled finished second, in a weak division, at 5-4. Let’s not forget, Singletary is a winner. Now, I don’t expect the 49er’s to beat the Birds but lets not underestimate their ability to win. I don’t see this game being tight but I don’t see it being a complete demolition either. Sure, the 49er’s weren’t great last year but they’re returning some key players that helped them to a 5-4 record under Singletary’s tenure. When you consider that and couple it with a running game and a sufficient quarterback, you end up looking like the early-90’s Falcons. You know the team that would lose against Raiders, Bengels and the Lions (games they should have won); then turn around and beat teams like Giants, Cowboys and Bears. Again, I don’t expect the 49er’s to win this game; but neither do I expect them to lie down. If Gore establishes his running game and gives our defense over a hundred yards, it’ll be a long day. We’ll definitely have to utilize our offense to play defense in this game. Here’s where my arguments for a good tight end (Pettigrew; Gonzalez) pays off.

Atlanta wins 21-14 and move to 3-1 for the season.

WR

June 4th, 2009
2:16 pm

I believe the birds get a tough run from a hard-nosed team still looking to establish its identity. San Fran is probably another year from showing a true Singletary type hand print, I think defensely they will be strong this year but the questions they have on offense beyond Frank Gore remain open to debate. Birds rebound from loss at NE to take the Niners 24-10.

Unca' Bob

June 4th, 2009
3:18 pm

Atlanta @ San Fransisco

Singletary is on track to rebuild both sides of the ball. Of 19 rookies on the roster, 9 play on the line. 3 of those are DT’s. Shaun Hill played in 9 games and put up some pretty good numbers. He had 62.8% passing with 13 TD’s and 8 picks. His QB rating was 87.5. If protracted thru an entire season they are similar to Ryan’s. They started off under Singletary 1-3, but ended the run 4-1. No cake walk here.

Atlanta 31 San Fran 17

jason

June 4th, 2009
4:46 pm

I would like to see Jackson covering Crabtree. That would be an excellent match up. I don’t see how SF wins this game. They are not good at all on offense. D is decent but not spetacular. SF is going to struggle until they get Singletary’s players in there. It is amazing that have been at least competible given the lack of talent on their team. Says alot about CMS’s job as a coach and a motivator. If I have to post a score, I would go with Unca’ Bob and 31-17 ATL. I think SF will be sloppy and unable to move the ball. With ATL coming off the bye, it really shouldn’t be that close. Look for Turner and Norwood to carry the ball close to 20 times each.

Dean 21

June 4th, 2009
8:22 pm

Hey Unca Bob, man I think you stole my thunder. I figured this score would be off a little since we were playing them out west, then I thought about the Green Bay & Oakland games and said okay with another year with the playbook and another year for Ryan, this is defintely reschable..anyways, here is my earlier post…

Dean21

June 3rd, 2009
10:33 pm
D3, It will not be a problem sir…I’m sure we will meet first at the Branch during Training Camp. Now I have to re-think my overall Falcons first 3 games again. Although I would love for us to be 4-0 after the 49ers game, it’s highly unlikely…so I will say we will be 2-1 heading into that game and come out 3-1….

Falcons 31-17

Dean 21

June 4th, 2009
8:23 pm

Jason, what’s going on man, any news? Do you think you will have an opportunity to join us at the Branch during training camp?

Dean 21

June 4th, 2009
8:25 pm

Well since the room is slow and like D3 states, it’s raining in the ATL…I’m going with the…

ORLANDO MAGIC!!

Dwight Howard is a GA boy, gotta show some support….

Dean 21

June 4th, 2009
8:31 pm

Stirg, my brother…this is time to do it…go ahead, take the bait! Maybe ole Abe will check out the cage and that will get him back to reality about football…nevertheless, it’s good banter between you 2

Ken Strickland

June 4th, 2009
8:32 pm

WR-I agree with CCarter’s assessment of RMoss. The sky has always been the limit for him. However, his unwillingness to work hard, take contact, expand his gm and become more than just a homerun threat has limited what he’s been able to accomplish. In other words, he’s been his own worst enemy and has limited his own development, as far as becoming a complete or primary WR. RWhite is a primary WR that can make a passing OFF good, while RMoss is a secondary WR that can make a good passing OFF better.

Here’s another way to make my point. Over the period covering 06-08 RWhite steadily improved, even though he played under 3 different HC’s and OFF coordinators, 3 OFF different OFF systems and 5 different starting QB’s over that period, including 3 in the same season(07). His REC’S: 06(30), 07(83) & 08(88), his YDS: 06(506), 07(1202, 08(1382), his AVG: 06(16.9), 07(14.5), 08(15.7) and TD’S: 06(0), 07(6), 08(7). Over the same 3yr period RMoss has been on 2 different teams, had 2 different HC’s and OFF coordinators, and 3 different QB’s. His REC’s: 06(42)Oakland, 07(98)& 08(69)Patriots, YDS:06(553), 07(1493), 08(1008)AVG: 06(13.2), 07(15.2) & 08(14.6) TD’s: 06(3), 07(23) & 08(11).

RMoss has been up and down, inconsistent, over that same period. Even with Oakland he wasn’t their best WR, as Ronald Curry had 62 receptions in 06. Even Welken, his sidekick over the last 2yrs in New England, has been more consistent and productive over the same 3yr period. He caught 67 in 06 with Miami, 112 in 07 and 111 in 08 with the Patriots. The overall production and consistency of one dimensional WR’s like RMoss are usually very dependent upon either the system they’re in or the QB, and you can see that with him. TRUST ME, WR RMOSS HAS NEVER LIVED UP TO HIS VAST TALENT, POTENTIAL OR HIS HYPE.

Sarah B

June 4th, 2009
8:56 pm

WR apparently I did bring a little rain with me. Some what overcast today and they are expecting some rain here in the desert on Saturday and I came to get away from the rain D@mn it!

Dean21 also pulling for the Magic as they eliminated LeBron and I just don’t like the Lakers.

JJ I was thinking of doing that very thing – no way we go 8-8 there is $$ to be had here on that.

Dean 21

June 4th, 2009
9:09 pm

Sarah B – I agree, not a kobe fan either! Well, you surely brought the rain with you…but it appears it raining in the east & west.

Did you have those seats last year? You are right above me. This is a first for me so I’m excited to join the fun at the dome! Everyone is telling me that Falcons landing is off the chain!

Well, I have the Falcons 3-1 after the San Fran game.

Sarah B

June 4th, 2009
9:21 pm

Dean21 we’ve been sitting in sec 342 since 2004 but had to start off in row 21 – shees talk about a hike! At the end of 2006 we put in to move down and ended up in row 6 which is the bomb. I’ll try not to drop anything over on you. And I agree about 3-1 I hate to say it but the Pats in NE well, we might not be quite ready for that yet. But I do welcome a 4-0 start don’t get me wrong on that. Yes Falcons Landing is a lot of fun. They have bands, games for the kiddies, cheerbabe signings for you guys, some older players usually sign autographs and then about 30 min before kickoff the official Falcons Drumline plays out there and they are great! And all the while you can drink you beer from home and noone cares! Which is great because once inside they are $7.50 but at least they are tallboys. I didn’t want you to get sticker shock upon arrival. We always carry at least 6 on the train.

jason

June 4th, 2009
9:46 pm

Dean 21, That would be too much luck for me. I am in the process right now. I have to go through a MEPs type of thing next Wed. If I sign then, it will be most likely AUG before I go anywhere. in AUG, I will have to go to OK for 2 weeks, then NM for four. Once that is done, I will be off to my new post somewhere around November. This really going to screw my football up this year. Will probably miss alot of Falcons and DAWGS games. I will have to be checking the Cage frequently to keep updated.

jason

June 4th, 2009
9:46 pm

Dean 21, Oh yeah, I am going to beg for Ft. Gordon. Either that or Germany.

WR

June 4th, 2009
10:42 pm

Ken, somehow we are getting crossed up on our opinions, White is an improving go to receiver that may someday surpass Moss as far as production and reliability. Comparing the two now based on where they are in their careers is unproductive. White is a 5th year pro thats only 27 years old, Moss is a 12th year pro who is 32, White has not reached his peak, Moss peak years have come and gone, meaning while continuing to be very productive he is on the downside of his career. When I say that you can’t put White in the same class as Moss its considering the work over a career, as good as Ryan was last year can you put him in a class with Brady and Peyton Manning,no,he’s not there yet, do I expect him to get there, yes, do I expect White to surpass the achievements of Moss,yes, 2 good years makes you a pro-bowler,2 good years doesn’t put you in the same class as a proven veteran when considering the work and achievements sustained over a career. Good Example, Terrell Davis was an awesome NFL running back, he helped to lead his team to two SuperBowl titles, but his career was cut short because of injuries and he is rarely mentioned as one of the all-time greats, same goes for Bo Jackson, who to this day no one has come close to his size,speed,and vision combination.

crabapplejoe

June 4th, 2009
10:58 pm

angry banker wrote: “crabapplejoe – good call on Welker. I was still living in Florida when he played for Miami – the kid did everything. Kick off and punt returns, was the leading reciever… everything he could – with Daman Huard throwing to him!!”

It really makes you wonder about the NFL’s true ability to scout and research talent. When the man who has caught more passes in the NFL in the last two years was not invited to the combines or drafted in 2004. Then he was cut by San Diego as an undrafted free agent. The rumor is that Nick Saban then wanted to cut Welker in favor of keeping Marcus Vick on the Dolphin’s roster. In the last four rounds of the 2004 draft there were 17 WRs drafted instead of Welker! Of those, eleven are gone from the league. Those seventeen receivers have a total of 920 receptions in the NFL….Welker has 319 all by his lonesome. The Falcons drafted the following players in the last four rounds instead of Welker: Demorrio Williams (LB); Chad Lavalais (DT); Etric Pruitt (S); Quincy Wilson (RB)…LOL. Its not like Welker had a bad college career at Texas Tech: 259 receptions, 3019 yard, 21 TDs; 79 rushes, 459 yards, 2 TDs; 8 TDs on punt returns to tie the NCAA record! I wonder what the NFL scouts did not like about him…..makes you go hmmmmmm. It also makes you wonder how many other “Wes Welkers” took a job selling life insurance after not being drafted and cut as a free agent.

Dean21

June 4th, 2009
11:45 pm

Sarah B – Now you surely have enlighted me, I appreciate the heads up and the brochure about the cheerbabes! :) I’m sure I will enjoy all the festivities before and during the games. I have so many friends that come down early to set up for tailgating, i’m sure I will be exploring those options as well. So, have you hit the strip yet? You will have to close the lid on the laptop and get busy with the dices, slots, etc.

Yeah, I think we all would take 4-0 and be totally shocked at 1-4, so the Falcons had better be ready. Truly they should know that they are no longer a surprise team. They will be the hunted! We have to protect the terror-dome!

Jason – man dust your knees off and try again should it not go through.
Sorry to hear you will not be able to join us or any of the games, trust me when I say…the cage will keep you informed, so you will not miss much as long as you chime in brother. You gotta take care of you, so do what you gotta do man! We will send a toast to ya right before kick off on Sept. 13!!

Dean21

June 4th, 2009
11:47 pm

Well, game #1 is a wash! The Majic better get ready or this will be a very short series!

Sarah B

June 5th, 2009
12:20 am

Yeah Dean21 – they got killed. To tired today to go to the strip big time change and all. Just chilled by the pool with cocktails. I do gotta place that Falcon over/under bet though 8-8 my azz.

Sarah B

June 5th, 2009
12:42 am

Yeah Dean21, they got killed, oh well. To tired to go to the strip what with the time change and all but will defeinatly take time to put $$ on that 8-8 Over/Under what BS that is. Today I just chilled by the pool with cocktails.

Sarah B

June 5th, 2009
12:43 am

Blog monster is alive and well tonight!

Ken Strickland

June 5th, 2009
1:11 am

While our OFF is set, there will be some interesting and intense battles on the DEF side of the ball. While SS-TDeCoud, OLB’s-SNicholas, MPeterson and DE-JAnderson will be their positions to lose, CB and DT will have some serious and interesting battles.

LET’S HEAR WHO YOU THINK WILL REPLACE DT GJACKSON 1-PJERRY 2-TLEWIS AND CB DFOXWORTH 1-COWENS 2-BGRIMES 3-CJACKSON 4-VHUTCHINS.

Ed

June 5th, 2009
1:20 am

Here’s a report I picked up on the net
FLOWERY BRANCH, Ga. (AP)—Offensive guard Tyson Clabo(notes) signed his restricted free agent contract with the Atlanta Falcons after starting all 16 games for the first time in his career.

Clabo was part of an offensive line that helped the Falcons finish second in the NFL with an average of 152.7 yards per game.

In other roster moves, the Falcons signed undrafted free agent wide receiver Bradon Godfrey, who had 128 receptions during his college career at Utah, and released linebacker Brock Christopher

Stirg d'Nahsif

June 5th, 2009
2:20 am

Ken, Jackson will take the corner position and Grimes will man nickel and backup the starters. With all the talented competition at the corners, they’ll probably let take his time to learn the position. With the high risk of injury at that position, Owens may get a few start this season; lets hope not.

I didn’t think Jerry was big enough to start alongside Babs. I thought it would be either Lewis and Babs or Lewis and Jerry; but it looks like Jerry’s disruption is enough to consider him for a starting position. Besides, I don’t think Lewis’ knee can withstand a full season as a starter. Therefore, Jerry and Babs would be the best case scenario.

I beg to differ with the DeCoud start, though. I think William “Buzzard” Moore starts, eventually; at least, after the break.

D-Line:
Abraham
Jerry
Babineaux
Anderson

L-Backs
Peterson
Lofton
Nicholas

D-Backs
Houston
Jackson
Moore
Coleman

Stirg d'Nahsif

June 5th, 2009
2:29 am

Whew! I just read my last post and realized that, with my “mock” starting lineup, I’ve created a legitimate second string defense.

Our depth

D-Line
Davis
Lewis
Walker
Sidbury/Biermann

L-Backs
Wire
Gilbert
James

D-Backs
Grimes
Owens
DeCoud
Fudge

Wow! Now that is a championship team. Any team that can replace an injured player with a legitimate starter and not miss a beat, a championship team is created. Interesting.

Dean21

June 5th, 2009
2:59 am

Stirg my man, you just hit the jack pot regarding our defensive unit. I like both of those line ups! Talk about having depth at every position. TD knew what he was doing and has made us better across the board. If these new young rookies come in and learn the system and play at their potential, then I will say this again! The Falcons defense will surprise many teams! Now although teams do have film on our offense, but keep in mind we never showed the entire playbook because of Ryan rookie status, now with another year under his belt and Tony G. lining up, man watch out!!!!

Ken Strickland – I truly feel like Jerry will start in place of Grady and Trey Lewis will spell Jerry. As Stirg mentioned, we have quality back-ups in case of injury, etc. I also feel like Jackson will win the cornerback position unless owens is good as they say he is.

Unca' Bob

June 5th, 2009
7:45 am

Unca' Bob

June 5th, 2009
8:17 am

Strig,

W Moore: On 5-30-09 at 6:01 PM D-Led posted a link to an interview he had with TD concerning our ‘09 draft picks. Page #1 on this blog. I have read TD’s comments about Moore several times, and each time I have come away with an uneasy feeling. It was, to me, like TD was trying to tip-toe around something. The sort of thing my Mom told me, like, if you don’t have anything nice to say…I hope I’m just over reacting. If you get the time, read it and tell me how you feel about it.

jason

June 5th, 2009
9:10 am

Ken Strickland, Good question. At DT lewis is the known quantity. Jerry the #1 round draft pick. I say Lewis starts along side Babs at the moment. ATL can afford to work Jerry in, in a heavy rotation with Walker, Babs, and Lewis. I say by the bye if Jerry is ready, he will start. By the end of the season he will be starting, and Lewis will sub to avoid injury and get the most bang for the buck; ala Abe last year.

At CB, it will be interesting. I say it doesn’t really matter. The rotation will also be heavy and fast. It will also be interchangable, like a match up from week to week. From the get go, I Houston and Jackson. Just because I like Jackson matching up with the opponet’s physical WR. I also see Grimes and Owens fighting it out for the nickel/slot WR. I think Grimes will excell here. Middleton in the dime.
Now, you noticed I didn’t mention Hutchins. If ATL only goes with 5 CBs, Hutchins is out of the mix. Missing all of last year due to injury really hurt. If they go 6 CBs, it is going to be interesting especially if Hutchins proves to be 100%. ATL is blessed to have 6 really good CBs, just no pure shutdown corner, yet.

On the subject of player’s jobs to lose. I don’t see DeCoud exactly losing a job. I think Moore will start over DeCoud because of DeCoud’s ability to play multiple positions. He can play both safety spots well. I can see almost a platoon like situation where Moore plays obvious run downs, and DeCoud on pass downs.

I am going to give Anderson to the bye week. It’s year 3 for him. time to step it up and show why he was a first round pick.
Nicholas should be ok at OLB. I think he gets thrown into the fire, staying on the field until he shows he can’t.
Peterson will play alot. He will be an onfield coach to prepare Lofton to be the leader of the defense. Plus he will still be a productive player making plays, something Brooking was unable to do last year.

jason

June 5th, 2009
9:14 am

Here’s mt question for the day. Do you think every pick will make this year’s roster?

Stirg d'Nahsif

June 5th, 2009
9:21 am

Unca’ Bob, I think I understand your concern. TD’s description of “Buzzard” Moore is in contrast between the days after the draft and the days after the mini-camp. The article that you made reference to is post mini-camp (after evaluating Moore’s abilities with NFL players). His evaluation sort of contradicts his description of Moore, immediately after the draft. After mini-camp, he describes Moore:

William Moore, S (Second round): “William is doing a nice job. He’s spending a lot of extra time with our secondary staff. He’s always trying to analyze what’s going on and trying to pick this system up. It’s not always easy to come in at the safety position as a first-year player, let alone as a rookie, and pick up the position in the NFL. He’s a physical presence. He will continue to refine his footwork and skills. We’re encouraged by what he’s done so far.

I found this post, entered by D.O.’better, after an interview with TD immediately after the draft. When D.O. asked TD about the second pick, TD offered this:

TD ON THE SAFETY SITUATION: Is it Moore, DeCoud and Fudge competing for the strong safety spot? “It will be up to Mike Smith. William is more of strong safety given his size and ability to come up and light up the ball carry. But he also has the range and he has more versatility than what was presented at the Senior Bowl. We really believe he has the ability to be in the deep part of the football field. There is some versatility there. We are happy to have Erik Coleman here with his veteran leadership and veteran status. He’s going to be a nice mentor for this young safety group. Thomas DeCoud, we are excited about his upside. We think he is going to continue to grow. He’s got nice speed and ability to cover the field. In my mind there are going to be three or four safeties on this team who can be legitimate contributors no matter who is called upon. ”

So, what you’re suggesting, Unca’ Bob, is that those sentiments have changed since evaluating Moore’s performance at NFL speed? I don’t know. Perhaps TD and Coach can see, first hand, why Moore’s stock was lowered enough, for us to grab him in the second. Maybe it wasn’t his injury that placed his ‘07 and ‘08 seasons in contrast with each other. Maybe we’re over-analyzing this and should exercise a little patience with his maturity into the NFL. Either way, we’re still set. My point was, we’ve established ourselves, defensively, to finally compete with quality players. When have we EVER had legitimate back-ups? When have we ever had a second string that can start for most teams?

Good observation, Unca’ Bob.

Unca' Bob

June 5th, 2009
9:58 am

Strig,

It did seem to me there was some back-pedaling. All the other players were talked about in glowing terms, pop, speed, blow up, etc. His phrasing for Moore was”extra time”, “foot work and skill”. Something about it did not ring true. I promise you, I would love to have misread it. I feel we are setting pretty with your current set of DB’s across the board. I like our progress, period.

SPS

June 5th, 2009
11:08 am

Totally off subject comment here. The AJC has posted yet another photo of Ryan getting ready to throw a football. It looks awful as always. The ball is way behind his head pointed straight up, and his left hand is in a waving-to-Mom position. From those photos you’d think he just got off the short bus and “throws like a girl”. LOL I never notice that while watching him at normal playing speed. His form looks good, he has a quick release, and always looks in command. Who is taking and posting these photos, Staff Photographer Joey Harrington?

Unca' Bob

June 5th, 2009
1:25 pm

FLOWERY BRANCH — With just one play Michael Jenkins quieted the naysayers.

It was the first game of the 2008 season and the Atlanta Falcons had a rookie quarterback, an unproven running back and several questions across the offensive line. Split left was another question in fifth-year receiver Jenkins, who was coming off his most productive season in 2007 with 53 receptions, but he still managed to accumulate only 503 yards.

Enter Matt Ryan, who surprised everyone watching when he launched the first pass of his career 62 yards for a touchdown. The play showed the NFL what Ryan was capable of, but it was the man on the other end of the pass that needed that play the most.

That man was Jenkins.

“It definitely jump started my season, and I think it jump started our whole team,” said Jenkins after Wednesday’s voluntary workout. “It obviously showed throughout the year, the way we performed and hopefully it’ll carry over to this year.”

No one hopes for that more than Jenkins, who caught 50 passes for three touchdowns and a career-high 777 yards in 2008.

“I gotta credit the offense and the way it flowed,” Jenkins said. “The way everybody was able to make plays and we were all able to get our share.”

With All-Pro wide receiver Roddy White on the other side of the field, and running back Michael Turner rushing for 1,699 yards, the Falcons finished 10th in the NFL with 24.4 points scored per game and sixth in total yards with 361.2. White, Ryan and Turner may have been the focal points of that offense, but Jenkins benefited the most from its success.

“You gotta pay attention to Roddy because he’s an All-Pro receiver,” Jenkins said. “Defenses are going to pay attention to him and that left a lot of one-on-one stuff on my end.”

In the past, Jenkins may have faulted in those types of situations, but last year he shined, and the former first-round pick that some labeled a bust, was finally able to show why the Falcons selected him with the 28th pick in the 2004 draft.

“You gotta take it with a grain of salt,” Jenkins said of the criticism he received after catching only 82 passes for 1,063 in his first three seasons. “There’s people out there that don’t really know the whole story, whatever they may think. But you gotta continue to press on and keep working hard and things will work out.”

He proved that during the Falcons’ 24-0 win against Oakland on Nov. 2 when the 26-year-old caught a season-high six passes for 64 yards and two touchdowns.

From that game on the former Ohio State star became a solid option on offense and recorded three or more receptions in seven of the final eight games of the year, including five in Atlanta’s 30-24 loss to Arizona in the first round of the NFC Playoffs.

But last year is in the past and Jenkins knows that his team still has plenty of work to do.

“We have to continue to be humble and not think that what happened last year is automatically going to happen this year,” he said. “We have to put the work in and hopefully have that success again.”

That work starts with the voluntary workouts, and even a 13-year veteran like newly acquired tight end Tony Gonzalez left impressed with how much focus and desire his new teammates are displaying.

“These guys want to be here,” Gonzalez said. “They’re hungry, they’re young, and they’re interested in their legacy and I’m excited to be a part of that. It gives me a renewed energy to compete.”

That should scare opposing defenses because now the Falcons have a hungry, future Hall of Fame tight end ready to contribute to their already potent offense of White, Ryan, Turner, Jerious Norwood and Jenkins.

“I can’t wait to see it,” Jenkins said of how dangerous the offense is. “I’m in it, but I can’t wait to see it myself. I think it’s gonna be a fun year.”

For Jenkins, he hopes the year will also be his best yet, one in which he can eclipse the 1,000-yard plateau for the first time in his career. There’s only one thing that he’ll take instead of a 1,000-yard year.

“A thousand yards would be a great personal goal, but the ultimate goal is to win a championship,” he said. “If we can get that and I don’t get 1,000, I’ll be a happy customer.”

So will anyone that ever doubted him.

Wabe

June 5th, 2009
3:34 pm

WILLIAM MOORE WILL BE A BEAST!

Honestly, I don’t think you can hang your head at T.D.’s 2nd round pick. Moore was projected to be a top 10 pick if he jumped after his junior season. Injuries plagued him in his senior season, and as a result, his draft stock fell.

He’s known to be a ball hawk, and has the physicality to get up to the line up scrimmage and light up the ball carrier, as T.D. said. If he’s truly as gifted as people say he is attacking the line and being a run-stopping safety, then I think within time, he will develop into one of the better safeties in the league. He will need time to adjust to the speed in the NFL, and his coverage abilities are definately a question mark at this point. BUT, I’M SYKED TO HAVE MOORE IN THE FALCONS SECONDARY!!!!!!

VICK SUPPORTER 2

June 5th, 2009
4:34 pm

8-8 IN ‘09

GO FALCONS!

D3

June 5th, 2009
4:39 pm

Great Friday Afternoon ‘Cage Brothers and Sisters! Meant to get in the ‘Cage last night but just ran into the “sleep” wall last night. As experts say when talking about running or biking races. Anyway, the Bird-Cage is rockin’ alive and well these days and I’m really stoked about it. Well, plenty of time to make up for it today, so let’s get to our ‘Birds…….

Crabapple – I second angry banker on props about Welker. He just kind of shot out of a cannon in Miami, went to the perfect system in NE, and is the absolute best complement to Moss giving the Pats the deep threat and great route-runner, middle of the field guy in Welker. Welker makes Moss better, not the other way around, IMO.

WR – where you been my bro’? Great point on Rice and the complements around him. The best receiver of all time for sure, but he had great weapons all around him. John Taylor was a stud in his own right and would have been the number one WR on any other team, Roger Craig is one of the biggest underrated RBs of all time(he redefined how versatile RBs could be), Tom Rathman was a stud FB who could catch out of the backfield, and the greatest QB of all time throwing the ball to him. I know them well as they were my favorite team growing up, besides the Falcons of course.

jason – finally saw ShinerBock on the shelf. Its next on my list to try. Having Grimes and C.Owens competing for the slot and losing candidate taking the dime-back really gives us a solid Defensive Backfield. Nice!

Stirg – great quote brother-man from D-Town. Love that movie, but that scene was absolute classic. That’s more like the score I look for; I think they’ll surprise some people but won’t take the next step until they resolve that QB situation.

Sarah B. – how’s Vegas-Land? Did you tie one on last night? I keep seeing the trailer for that movie “The Hangover” and think of you guys in Vegas. Any word from Reno? Gotta try the Falcons Landing as a tailgate station.

Ed – thanks for the update my man. Where you been? Bring back your excellent insights to the ‘Cage.

Strig(2) – wow, love that second D-rotation. As you or Ken noted a while back, that second rotation looks almost as good as our FIRST rotation last year. If we can get these rooks and new guys ready to play, the sky’s the limit.

Dean21 – If you organize the Bird-Cage gathering, your first brews on me. Keep up the great work.

jason(2) – great question. I’ll take that one and analyze in depth in a little bit. Should stimulate some good debate.

Unca’ Bob – great article pick-up my man. Love the fact that Michael Jenkins kept battling and finally had the year everyone was waiting for. I like the guys character and always knew he had mad skills. I’ve been a little critical in the past, but its amazing what nice thrown balls will do for receivers. I’ll never forget that one-handed catch he made against the Steelers at home a couple of years ago. With All-Around WR Roddy, Big-Tall Physical Move the Chains Jenks, & Speed Demon HD, we have a great, young WR corps. Not even including HOF’er TG. Top to Bottom, I think we have one of the best WR corps in the league.

Wabe – totally agree with you my man. When we were doing our Draft Analysis here in the Bird-Cage, I was initially against Moore due to his lack of productivity his senior year. But the more I looked at him and the fact that he was hurt his senior year and evidently played under a weak D-Coordinator, I thought he would be a great fit for us and bring that toughness and hard-hitting style to our DEF. Good stuff brother.

Tons more coming later. Analysis on jason’s roster question, Falcons OFF vs 49ers DEF, and one of these days the Roster Spot Analysis TE#3; the debates have been so good as of late, there’s been no need to supplement. Keep it rockin’ fellas!

jason

June 5th, 2009
5:30 pm

On the subject of Willwam Moore, I hope people don’t preset the high expectations. Remember, the NFL is a whole different kind of beast. There have been All-Americans, and Heismans shamed. William will be a fine and servicable Safety in the NFL. He may never be all pro. Might make a probowl, might not. But he will be a playmaker. Maybe TD reached with the second pick, maybe not. We will have to wait and find out. My opinion is that is was a bit of a reach. I think he will be good; just not measuring up against the picks in that area of the second round.

Question, with the nagging injuries he played with at Mizzou his senior year, is he 100%? if he is, is he in 100% football shape. That could go a ways into explaining slow progress he is showing. Then again, he may be a player that doesn’t light it up until the lights come on. You know, Game Time.

I see Moore playing obvious run downs with DeCoud playing obvious passing. At least at the onset of the season. Smitty will see how it all shakes out.

jason

June 5th, 2009
5:34 pm

D3, on the CBs… There is starter canidates everywhere. They are interchangable. Houston better not be slipping, or he will drop down the depth chart. We were debating a while back on Jackson starting or playing the nickel. You know I was leaning nickel. I have changed my mind. Jackson’s physical nature will work best against the opposing team’s phy. WR. Grimes being the most atheletic is perfect for the slot and having to fight through traffic. I still stand by my assertion that Owens will be starting before the year is over.

Big Ray

June 5th, 2009
5:58 pm

I wouldn’t worry about William Moore. He may not be picking everything up right away, and might be struggling with some other issues (footwork, etc). Dimitroff said he’s happy with his progress. He was in minicamp. He has a ways to go.

We complain about Jamal Anderson not putting up stats, but we’re also talking about YEAR 3. Moore has yet to play one snap in the NFL. Give him a minute. I think the guy is a playmaker, and he’ll be fine. Whether or not he’s a Pro Bowler is another conversation altogether.

The thing is, we didn’t pick him to be the immediate solution/replacement/starter at either safety spot. We have Coleman, who can play, and Decoud, who can also play, and has some experience under his belt now. Unless there are a rash of injuries at the spot, Moore will get his playing time in spurts, and get to study from the sideline and in practice.

I’m not worried about him.

falcon21

June 5th, 2009
6:48 pm

Right on Big Ray, Moore is a building block for the future but I still think he will get a lot of playing time this season. It may have been a small reach to get him but he was also too good to pass on.

Jimbo

June 5th, 2009
6:48 pm

Unca Bob,
I read your post regarding TDs comments on William Moore and I think you’re onto something there. However, I’m not that concerned. If it takes him a little longer to catch on, I think we don’t loose much with DeCoud. DeCoud is a player. So, why draft Moore then? I think what we’re seeing from TD and Smitty is bring in the competition and let them fight it out. So let’s let Moore develop at his own pace and bring him in if he wins the job. Having DeCoud as the starter is not a bad problem to have.

Ken Strickland

June 5th, 2009
6:52 pm

STIRG-do you realize your backup DEF is better overall than last yrs starting DEF.

JASON-I find it hard to believe we’ll go with only 5 CB’s considering DIrons, BGrimes and VHutchins are coming off season ending injuries. VHutchins is considered better suited as a cover 2 CB than a man to man specialist, but he’s also rated as an excellent nickel back, which might explain why we signed him last yr. Last yrs season ending injuries to VHutchins, BGrimes and DIrons made CJackson the nickel back by default. If he becomes the starter opposite CHouston, VHutchings might top the list for nickel back, since he has the most experience and is the most physical CB on the roster.

Someone mentioned that TLewis would likely get the starting nod because he was a known commodity. Well, his series of unjuries, limited experience and the extended time he’s spent rehabing actually makes him as much, if not more, of an unknown commodity than PJerry or VWalker.

On the issue of OT Ojinnaka, I don’t see him getting cut unless his personal issues with his wife are really serious. Don’t forget, LB MBoley and DT JBabineaux had simular personal issues and they weren’t sent packing. In fact, some individuals actually placed JBabineaux in the same category with M ick and vilified him accrodingly. Just think, if we had cut him, some other team would have benefited form him having a breakout season, and an already pourous DL would have been even more pourous.

Besides, we’re thin and inexperienced at OT to begin with, so I see him just laying low, keeping his mouth shut and allowing this whole thing to fade away like the Babineaux and Boley incidents eventually did.

THE ATLANTA FALCONS ARE BETTER THAN THEIR 09 SCHEDULE. TALENT WISE, WE’RE AS GOOD AS ANYONE IN THE NFL, ESPECIALLY ON OFF. EXPERIENCE IS THE ONLY THING THAT KEEPS US FROM BEING IN THE SAME CATEGORY AS THE ELITE TOP 4 TEAMS(the Steelers, Giants, Patriots & Colts). These 4 teams have dominated the SB over the last decade.

Dean 21

June 5th, 2009
6:57 pm

Big Ray – Excellent points but I would to pose a question on who should we be concerned with on this defense? Should it be Abe getting hurt? PJerry getting hurt or not performing? Trey Lewis healthy at what %?
Should CJackson get the starting nod, obviously it’s open for competent ion at this time. Will Babs have back to back good years? Is Nicholson ready to actually start every game now? You see, we could all have concerns, just what areas are they located.

I am concerned mostly that the new players come in and understand the process and the old players continue it. The first taste of success does not mean you have arrived. The Falcons still have quite always to go and I’m sure as most of our fans see it, we just wants wins baby!

Jason – I’m with you. I feel like Jackson should start with Grimes coming in on packages and Owens in the wings learning the system at best.

Okay D3, I’ll be waiting! I’m sure Sarah B and I will get the party in line when it’s time. So, what’s next? You ready to process the next game or next position player. It would be interesting to know what packages are being inputted for Tony G. I’m sure his impact will be felt early on and we all should anticipating high scores from this offense!

Dean 21

June 5th, 2009
6:59 pm

Ken Strickland – valid points on the cb’s…my question to you is exactly how many would you carry if you were the coach and how would you utilize them.

Stirg d'Nahsif

June 5th, 2009
6:59 pm

Unca’ Bob, looks like we done stirred up something.

Dean 21

June 5th, 2009
7:04 pm

Jason, D3, Unca’ Bob, Ken Strickland, Stirg, WR….
I’m also trying to figure out exactly how many WR’s and RB’s are we carrying this year. Both positions are flooded with on-takers, so during training, hopefully the best 4 or 5 will be left standing barring injury!

Who should return kick-offs and punts this year? Although we have not talked much about it, but our kicking game is solid! We do not have to concern ourselves with finding a punter or place kicker! whew!

Dean 21

June 5th, 2009
7:07 pm

Stirg- I’m just wondering on how much impact does the Falcons expect from this year’s crop of rookies? Do we truly expect something right out the box from Owens & Moore? I for one see these guys as impact players down the road, then again, maybe they are expected to follow last year’s rookie squad?

falcon21

June 5th, 2009
7:19 pm

Jason, I was reading your comment on Richard Samuel possibly being the #1 RB for the Dawgs and I agree totally. He attended my old High School so I got to see alot of his games. As good as he is at RB, he was even better on defense. That man was a monster. I would like to see him at LB with the Dawgs. Sorry guys, I know this was not the Birds but I’m a huge fan of both.

Dean 21

June 5th, 2009
7:30 pm

Shoot that blg monster in the foot Sarah B.

falcon21

June 5th, 2009
7:39 pm

Dean 21, I think if Brown makes the team he will handle most of the returns along with Norwood. I would like to see Norwood get more carries at RB along with JS so Turner can stay healthy and not get worn down.

Dean 21

June 5th, 2009
8:15 pm

Falcon21, I truly hope Brown makes this team, the most important thing for him is to stay healthy throughout training camp. Yeah, Turner cannot get burned out this year because he will be facing better defenses than last season.

Jimbo

June 5th, 2009
8:24 pm

I don’t know if you’ve already seen this article about Harvey Dahl or not, but it’s a good read. Anyone that gets compared to Conrad Dobler gets my seal of approval. Check it out!
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/story/11793612

falcon21

June 5th, 2009
9:08 pm

Yeah I saw that Jimbo, Dobler was a bad man, if Harvey can even come close to that then it is a win win for the Birds!!! Jerry Glanville would be proud. Just kidding about Glanville, he probably would have Harvey on the D-line.

jason

June 5th, 2009
9:13 pm

falcon21 , ON all the blogs I read last year and this… they all say the same thing about him at LB. Maybe he is a hitter not a hitee.

jason

June 5th, 2009
9:14 pm

Dean 21, Liked your question to ken on the CB situation. Open it up to everyone.
Ken I like your take on Hutchins. I did not know that much about him. I saw him as on the fence due to the injuries and Smitty running more man this year.

Stirg d'Nahsif

June 5th, 2009
10:01 pm

Yeah, Ken, I did recognize the betterment of our defense. I didn’t realize, until after I posted, how good the second string defense will be, compared to last season’s first string. Amazing, isn’t it. In some cases, God forbid, an injury to a starter may not be a bad thing. The Moore and DeCoud battle is going to produce the better man; and depending on how “the better man” plays, it may be intriguing to watch the one who pulled the shortest stick. That is the one position I look forward to watching this season.

Dean21, I’ve been thinking about your question, long before you even asked. What did I come up with? I have no idea, my friend. Its simply hard to determine. I’m not sure how long you’ve been blogging in this cage but a while back, I researched T.D.’s scouting candidates and rookie signings while he was Director of Scouting with New England. I found that every year, for about 5-7 years, his drafting would produce an eventual Pro-Bowler (with the exception of, maybe, a couple years). Look at New England’s number one draft picks during TD’s tenure:

2002 21 Daniel Graham TE Colorado
2003 13 Ty Warren DT Texas A&M
2004 21 Vince Wilfork DT Miami (FL)
2004 32 Benjamin Watson TE Georgia
2005 32 Logan Mankins OG Fresno State
2006 21 Laurence Maroney RB Minnesota
2007 24 Brandon Meriweather S Miami (FL)

Now those are starters that can really put you on your anus. New England was so good, and still is, that their first round picks were usually late (picks 21-32, with the exception of 2003). Yet, TD was still able to yank some starters. I failed to note (I will, if need be) the players drafted in later rounds, that turned out to be really good players. For example, in 2002, New England drafted Deion Branch in round two and Jarvis Green in round four; Both have contributed to New England’s success. I don’t want to go through the whole list; but just to throw a couple more examples at you, New England drafted Eugene Wilson and Asante Samuel in rounds two and four, respectively, in 2003; and in 2004, they drafted Vince Wilfork, Benjamin Watson and Marquis Hill. I can go on (I can post the list of TD’s draftees, 2002-07, if you want it) but I think you get the picture. Every year that TD was involved with scouting and drating, he always produce 2-3 starters. Incidently, 2005’s draft produced Logan Mankins and Ellis Hobbs in rounds one and two, respectively; and in rounds four and seven, TD signed James Sanders and Matt Cassell.

So to answer your question, in my honest but unprofessional opinion, two or three rookies, at least, will start. The question is, who?

Stirg d'Nahsif

June 5th, 2009
10:21 pm

What the hell, I’ll paste it anyway. Draw your own conclusions. My conclusion suggests that we’ll start two or three rookies this year (preferably, Jerry and Moore).

New England Patriots Draft Selections (TD Era)
2002
1 21 Daniel Graham Tight end Colorado
2 65 Deion Branch Wide receiver Louisville
4 117 Rohan Davey Quarterback LSU
4 126 Jarvis Green Defensive end LSU
7 237 Antwoine Womack Running back Virginia
7 253 David Givens Wide receiver Notre Dame

2003
1 13 Ty Warren Defensive tackle Texas A&M
2 36 Eugene Wilson Cornerback Illinois
2 45 Bethel Johnson Wide receiver Texas A&M
4 117 Dan Klecko Defensive tackle Temple
4 120 Asante Samuel Cornerback Central Florida
5 164 Dan Koppen Center Boston College
6 201 Kliff Kingsbury Quarterback Texas Tech
7 234 Spencer Nead Tight end BYU
7 239 Tully Banta-Cain Linebacker California
7 243 Ethan Kelley Defensive tackle Baylor

2004
1 21 Vince Wilfork Defensive tackle Miami (FL)
1 32 Benjamin Watson Tight end Georgia
2 63 Marquise Hill Defensive end LSU
3 95 Guss Scott Safety Florida
4 128 Dexter Reid Safety North Carolina
4 128 Cedric Cobbs Running back Arkansas
5 164 P. K. Sam Wide receiver Florida State
7 233 Christian Morton Cornerback Florida State

2005
1 32 Logan Mankins Offensive guard Fresno State
3 84 Ellis Hobbs Cornerback Iowa State
3 100 Nick Kaczur Offensive tackle Toledo
4 133 James Sanders Safety Fresno State
5 170 Ryan Claridge Linebacker UNLV
7 230 Matt Cassel Quarterback Southern California
7 255 Andy Stokes Tight end William Penn

2006
1 21 Laurence Maroney Running back Minnesota
2 36 Chad Jackson Wide receiver Florida
3 86 David Thomas Tight end Texas
4 106 Garrett Mills Tight end Tulsa
4 118 Stephen Gostkowski Kicker Memphis
5 136 Ryan O’Callaghan Offensive tackle California
6 191 Jeremy Mincey Defensive end Florida
6 205 Dan Stevenson Offensive guard Notre Dame
6 206 Le Kevin Smith Defensive tackle Nebraska
7 229 Willie Andrews Defensive back Baylor

2007
1 24 Brandon Meriweather Safety Miami (FL)
4 127 Kareem Brown Defensive end Miami (FL)
5 171 Clint Oldenburg Offensive tackle Colorado State
6 180 Justin Rogers Linebacker SMU
6 202 Mike Richardson Cornerback Notre Dame
6 208 Justise Hairston Running back Central Connecticut State
6 209 Corey Hilliard Offensive guard Oklahoma State
7 211 Oscar Lua Linebacker USC
7 247 Mike Elgin Center Iowa

falcon21

June 6th, 2009
12:41 am

Hey cagers, I know this is a tough question but does anyone know what the Falcons record is after a bye week of their own? And what is their record against teams coming off their bye week in the last 5 years or so?

Sarah B

June 6th, 2009
1:52 am

Checking in from Vegas… The time change is hard to get used to. What I was trying to post last night when the blog monster wouldn’t let me was in response to JJ saying to place a bet on the over/under on the 8-8 record thing. I said I most definately would. Now however after visiting the sports book I find that those aren’t available until July. I think the AJC made that up to rile us up folks!! What is available is Falcons win SB – 14-1 and Falcons win NFC Champs 8-1. They, based on odds, have us winning the division. Although that is not bettable yet.

I think, well I knew it before I got here that this is our year to break our miserable no BTB winning seasons, that Vegas knows it too.

I wish I had a scanner to send you all this list. According to betters as of today the best lock on winning the SB are… wait for it… DA Bears! Second is the Giants & Vikings, Tied for third is Pats & Steelers then a tight field of Eagles, Colts, Chargers, Cowboys (suck), Packers (homers) then… tied Your Atlanta Falcons & Baltimore Ravens!!! There it my Brethern your Vegas top 12 for 2009!

Sarah B

June 6th, 2009
2:00 am

And yes I did bet on both $5 on winning SB $10 on winning NFC Champ. I know, not a lot but I can’t afford a lot.

Sarah B

June 6th, 2009
2:01 am

When I get back I will scan the list and post and hey it may change by Tuesday.

Sarah B

June 6th, 2009
2:04 am

Not a lot of computer time here but I’m trying.

Ken Strickland

June 6th, 2009
2:42 am

FALCON21-Last yr we carried 6 safeties, JFudge, EBrock, TDeCoud, LMalloy, EColeman and MPaschal. Safeties LMalloy and MPaschal are gone, along with CB’s RPrude and DFoxworth. We also carried 6 CB’s, DFoxworth, CHouston, RPrude, DVinnett, CJackson and GSharpe. I see CHouston, BGrimes, CJackson, COwens, VHutchins and either DIrons or WMiddleton as the 6 CB’s making the roster, with EColeman, WMoore, TDeCoud, AHarris, JFudge and EBrock as the 6 safeties. That’s a lot of speed, quickness and versatility, which is an awful lot more than we had last yr.

STIRG-Last yr, Smitty was forced to start players who presented the lessor of two evils because our DEF had so many holes. SS LMalloy started, even though he was a liability in pass DEF, because he was the best solution at SS for assisting our poor run DEF. GJackson started because he was the best solution for protecting our rookie MLB, CLofton, despite his limited range, mobility, speed, quickness, stamina and pass rushing ability.

None of those liabilities will be issues on this yrs DEF because of the added speed, quickness, youth and mobility. Inexperience and unfamiliarity will be the biggest DEF challenges, especially early in the season. As far as how many rookies will start is concerned, I think CB COwens has a better chance of starting than SS WMoore. WMoore might be physically more talented than DeCoud, but he has too much to learn, and I don’t think he’s polished or experienced enough to outperform DeCoud throughout training camp and preseason. Next yr could very likely be a different story.

LAST YR, OUR OFF CARRIED US TO THE PLAYOFFS AND AN 11-5 REGULAR SEASON RECORD. THIS YR, OUR OFF WILL STILL CARRIES US TO THE PLAYOFFS, BUT IT WILL BE OUR DEF THAT DETERMINES HOW FAR WE GO IN THE PLAYOFFS.

Unca' Bob

June 6th, 2009
9:39 am

Strig,

It would seem we struck a chord some where. It wasn’t anything you or I said, T Dimitroff said it. It was, on my part, an interpratation of what I thought he was saying. No one else read it that way so I must be wrong. I can live with that.

jason

June 6th, 2009
9:52 am

MY thinking is that if we carry 6 CBs and 6 Safeties, how will the rest of the roster shape out? I am getting confused. I might be making it hareder than it should be, so bear with me.
QB 3
RB/FB 5
WR 6
TE 3
OL 9
K/P 2
DL 10
LB 6
DB 12
That’s 56 on a 53 player roster. Maybe I should break the DL down. 5 DEs, Abe, Anderson, Biermann, Sid, and Davis. DTs, Bab, Jerry, Walker, Lewis, and Jefferson.
I am thinking with what Ken said about 6 CBs and 6 S, ATL goes with 4 DTs and 5 WRs. Anderson’s ability to play all along the DL, and ATL not running much 4-5 WR sets. There is still 54 for 53 spots. Any ideas?

Ken I liked Fudge; I just assumed there would not be any room for him this year. I would take Houston, Grimes, Jackson, Hutchins, Owens, and Middleton at CB. For some reason I was thinking ATL would go either 5-5 or 6-4 at the DBs.

jason

June 6th, 2009
9:55 am

Unca’ Bob, I don’t know if I took the article you are refering to the same as you, but I also was not sold on Moore starting soon. I saw almost a platoon situation with DeCoud with Moore starting full time later in the year or next season. Moore is so physical against the run, and DeCoud with his atheleticsm could damn near play a nickel or dime role. That’s the way I saw it any way. One’s strength being the other’s weakness.

jason

June 6th, 2009
10:01 am

Last night I threw the question out about whether or not all the draft picks would make the team. I did so because I think they would. As far as thstarter’s question I only see one starter out of the box in Jerry. I also see 2 more in Moore and Owens by midseason or end of the season. Middleton, and Sid will be brought along slowly. Walker will be in a good rotation at DT. The OL will be a good and versitle back up to the OL, and Adkins will will be a ST beast.

D3

June 6th, 2009
10:21 am

Great Saturday A.M. ‘Cage Brethren! Posting has been a little slow going as of late. My little Future WR is doing a lot better, but between my little buddy and the honey-do list from the House CEO, its tough to get in the Bird-Cage as much as I would like. I’m sure a lot of you feel my pain. Bird-Cage is doing well these days especially during these down times. Anyway, here we go……….

jason – yeah, I agree that DeCoud has the inside track on starting this fall. He’s will have been in the system for two years and had a full year to get used to NFL speed. Like you, I see Moore steadily working his way into the lineup as the year progresses, particularly against big running teams like Carolina and Washington.

Big Ray – good point on our picks. No reason to rush Moore, Owens, Sidbury, or even Jerry for that matter since we have Decoud, Grimes, Hutchins, C.Davis, and Trey Lewis having experience in the league and more ready to step in. The only issue with Jerry is that he’s already 25, which is concerning as a rookie.

Coach Ken – gotta depart with you on Ojinnaka. I think his seat is one of the hottest on the roster come training camp. He was drafted by Lil’ Jimmy Mora to run a cut-blocking scheme(the same he ran in college). He’s been in the league three years and had every opportunity to win the RT spot this previous year and the “lightbulb” evidently hasn’t switched on. Couple that with the fact that we signed Romberg & Will Svitek, drafted Reynolds, and most OL cross-train and can play all positions. It looks to be a huge battle between Ojinnaka, Pat McCoy, and Mike Butterworth for a 10th spot if we keep 10; last year we only carried 9.

Dean21 – can’t wait to pop a brew. Too bad they don’t allow alchohol at Training Camp. As far as WR’s and RB’s, we carried 4 RBs and 6 WRs last year on our active roster. The question on the 10th overall spot comes down to Spec Teams. We rarely use 5 WRs, much less 6 WRs. If Snelling and TBrown are better on Spec Teams than say Weems, and can add more to our OFF, than I say we keep 1)Turner 2)Norwood) 3)Mughelli 4)TBrown 5)Snelling 6)Roddy 7)Jenks 8)HD 9)BFinn and the battle royale for the last spot between AKelly, Bergeron, & Weems. JMHO. Schedule of supplemental material coming soon. The ‘Cage has been rockin’ so well that there hasn’t been a lot of need for it.

falcon21 – ahhh, it all makes sense now my brother. You attended the Big C. I always root for players from our area that go to UGA. Kris Durham was from my hometown, but is injury-prone and can’t turn the corner. I agree with you that if Samuel can come back from injury he has the best shot by far. King has been a pretty big disappointment thus far. Maybe Ealey can come in and make some hay; I’m pretty concerned about our team this year to be honest with you.

Jimbo – where you been bro’? Great name dropping in Dobler. Dahl sure is a nasty one, but he’s gotta watch it to a point because those 5, 10, & 15 yard penalties are drive killers.

Stirg – the great researcher has returned! I learned all my mad research skills from you my brother. No better way to argue a point than with facts. I see Jerry starting for sure, Moore & Owens will play but as far as starting outright, we’ll see. One of the most interesting parts of your research to me is their 2005 draft: Nick Kazckur and James Sanders just started last year after waiting three years in the wings. That’s how back-logged their talent is, if the guys can continue to prove themselves year in and year out, they will eventually get a shot which is good news for C.Davis, TLewis, T.DeCoud, and even DIrons(to an extent).

Sarah B. – thank you so much for giving us that info on the ACTUAL Vegas lines. Its even crazier than I realized. Having the Bears as the favorite? Are you kidding me? And the Vikings….what? You’re probably right about the AJC, they probably talked to some random dude who gave them that BS assessment. It is hard-pressed to find ANY NFL media to think they will not at least be 9-7.

Alright, great saturday Gents. Hopefully TE#3 Roster Spot Analysis and the finish of the ATL-SF game will come today. Enjoy the day ‘Gents and ‘Gals!!!

Stirg d'Nahsif

June 6th, 2009
11:26 am

Good catch, D3. I din’t pick up the start of Kazckur and Sanders last year, until you mentioned it. For some odd reason, I was thinking Bob Sanders of the Colts. Point being, still, we can look forward to, at least, two starters from our rookie class. Jerry, Moore, Owens, Sidbury, Walker and Middleton all have legitimate chances to start. Before anyone wants to argue that, let me remind you that our talented pool players are not immuned to injury. Matter of fact, to answer jason’s question, all of the rookies can make the team; then again, some may not. That is what preseason is for, I would suspect. Trust me, after four games, although intramural, someone is going to be weak, injured, slow, confused, lost, absent, holding out or simply not ready for the NFL. Just like past seasons, that opens the opportunity for someone to play, that would not have normally started. We don’t have to sit here and try to determine who is going to make a 53-man roster, out of 60 players. Injuries and absence will determine that for us.

Unca' Bob

June 6th, 2009
11:48 am

If there’s one spot on the roster where one could argue there’s an abundance of competition, that position would be receiver. The irony is that out of the seemingly hundreds of receivers the Falcons have signed, only one will win a roster spot, and that’s as a likely inconsequential fifth receiver in an offense that utilizes two or three and a tight end most of the time.

While there were already a few guys on the roster who could compete, the most intriguing options are actually the undrafted guys from this year, which include Arena Football League talent Troy Bergeron, Clemson rookie Aaron Kelly and Utah newcomer Bradon Godfrey. Unrookie Chandler Williams has a chance to stick around because he’s a clear asset on special teams, while Khalil Jones probably won’t win a spot unless everyone else on the roster suddenly takes up water polo. It’s the undrafted guys or bust in this case.

Without further ado, let’s take a quick look at each of these guys, as well as my wildly irresponsible prediction about which one of them will make the final roster. Here’s a hint. If you’ve been reading for at least a month, you’re going to know who I pick.

Darren Mougey: Positional versatility is what Mougey has in spades–or at least clubs–as he dabbled in quarterback at San Diego State. At 6-6 and 230 pounds, Mougey is downright huge, and has all the physical tools necessary to succeed. He doesn’t have a track record of eye-popping numbers at the college level, but if they kept him around they’d have an emergency quarterback. So he’s got that going for him.
Bradon Godfrey: The newest addition to the competition, Godfrey is 6-3 and 197 pounds and had an efficient career at Utah, where he caught 128 passes over his career. He doesn’t appear to have any physical tools that separate him from the pack, which leads me to suspect he’s more of a camp body than anything. Still, he’s clearly a solid enough guy, so maybe he’ll surprise. There’s not really a whole hell of a lot out there about Mr. Godfrey.
Troy Bergeron: We know what Bergeron can do. He can return a few kicks with reasonable success and can catch like crazy. What’s the catch with this catching, you ask? That would have to be the fact that he’s done all his damage in the AFL, which is just a wee bit different than the plodding pace of the NFL game. He’s clearly talented, but it’s a red flag that he hasn’t managed to stick to a roster before now despite his success in another league. At 6-2, 190, Bergeron will probably be in the running until late in the pre-season.
Aaron Kelly: I saved the best for last. A beanpole of a receiver, Kelly weighs as much as Bergeron but stands almost as tall as Mougey. He’s got intriguing pass-catching talent but will clearly need to add a little bit to his frame so he doesn’t blow away every time a guy in the third row of the Dome farts. Still, his height and his relative speed for a tall guy makes him the option I think is going to make the roster.

Ken Strickland

June 6th, 2009
11:52 am

D3-I think Ojinnaka’s experience and overall versatility, he’s been the backup L & RT and OG, will work heavily in his favor, and we all know how much Smitty values versatility. Remember, former starter TWeiner was also unable to crack last yrs starting lineup. Also, if our coaches think we’re so thin at OT that we’re seriously considering resigning Ancient Age WGandy, who lacks any of Ojinnak’s versatility, I think he’ll get every consideration and opportunity to get out from under this mess and make the team. Also, the retirement of TWeiner makes Ojinnaka’s versatility, experience and familiarity with the system, very valuable to the team.

BIG RAY-totally agree with you on the status of our draft picks. We have talented backups that have been groomed to move into certain vacated positions. I believe some of this yrs draft picks, like WMoore and LSidbury, will be groomed to replace FS EColeman and DE JAbraham when their FA contracts expire, or are traded. WMoore will eventually become the starting SS and DeCoud would switch to FS. SS/FS AHarris stays in the back of my mind. When I read he has the range and ability to play both safety positions, as well and the speed and quickness to play nickel CB, I’ve found him very interesting and hard to ignore. His status depends on how much he’s lost due to last yrs season ending injury. OTHER THAN OLB MPETERSON, THIS YRS DEF WILL NOT HAVE ANY OTHER PLAYERS THAT ARE STRICKLY STOP GAP SOLUTIONS, LIKE LAST YR WITH CB DFOXWORTH, DT GJACKSON AND SS LMALLOY. CONSIDERING THE CIRCUMSTANCES, OLB’S KBROOKING AND MBOLEY COULD ALSO BE PLACED IN THAT CATEGORY.

angry banker

June 6th, 2009
12:12 pm

unca bob – another good article – keep em coming!!

wabe – agreed on Moore – excited to see how he develops in our system. Its great that we already have coleman and decoud back there, so we don’t have to rush him in until we feel hes ready to lead.

Ken – agreed on our OFF, we’ve solidified ourselves as one of the best. I feel like we have alot of Question marks on DEF – Draftpicks, Lewis and Hutchins coming off injuries, how peterson will adjust to our scheme, who wins the starting jobs in the secondary – but hey, there was alot of question marks with our OFF last year too and look how well that turned out. Well just have to wait and see, very excited about our potential.

jason

June 6th, 2009
1:31 pm

So, we are looking at 5 WRs. The usual 4 Roddy, Jenk, HD, and Finn. Looksto be interseting comp for the final spot.Unca’ Bob, I like your break down,and everyone seem to have apositive outlook on Kelly. If we go 5 where does that leave Weems, The ST ace. If we go 6, whinch I don’t think we will, You have Kelly, Bergeron, Godfrey, Mougey going at it.
On th topic of Ojinnaka. I do think he is on the hot seat. However, if he keeps his mouth shut and continues to work hard and stay out of trouble, he could find a spot on the roster. He has talent, is versitile, and knows the scheme. He would the obvious choice.

This is going to be fune debating the not just the sterters on defense, but also the entire defensive depth chart. There is a lot of talented players, and will be some lively debating discussing each spot. I think that injuries past, present, and future are going to dictate the depth chart. ATL has quite a few coming back from season ending injuries.

jason

June 6th, 2009
1:34 pm

Stirg d’Nahsif, I like your post earlier…We don’t have to sit here and try to determine who is going to make a 53-man roster, out of 60 players. Injuries and absence will determine that for us. But it is so much fun to nit pick and debate what we think is going to happen.

D3

June 6th, 2009
2:12 pm

Falcons OFF vs 49ers DEF

Likely Match-ups

LT-Sam Baker vs RDE-Justin Smith
LG-Justin Blaylock vs RILB-Patrick Willis
C-Todd McClure vs NT-Aubrayo Franklin
RG-Harvey Dahl vs LILB-Takeo Spikes
RT-Tyson Clabo vs LDE-Kentwan Balmer/Demetric Evans
TE-Tony Gonzalez vs LOLB-Parys Haralson
FB-Ovie Mughelli vs ROLB-Manny Lawson
RB-Michael Turner vs SS-Michael Lewis
WR-Roddy White vs CB-Nate Clements
WR-Michael Jenkins vs CB-Walt Harris
QB-Matty Ice vs FS-Mark Roman

Running
The 49ers actually have a DEF that can make some noise this year under Singletary’s guidance. Even though he had a lower productive year last year Patrick Willis is still one of the best MLB’s in the game. Justin Smith’s a little long in the tooth, but still produces at end. Parys Haralson shows a ton of potential registering 8 sacks. Beyond that though, they don’t have a ton of guys that put teeth in a run-stop defense. Sam Baker continues to draw the toughest DE’s in the league and Smith is no exception. Justin Blaylock and Ovie Mughelli will definitely need to work on Patrick Willis. We can all expect Todd McClure and Harvey Dahl to dominate the right side of the line. Tony Gonzalez will have no problem in blocking either OLB. Tyson Clabo will have no problem with Balmer or Evans. Turner and Norwood should run against the average LB corps and a downgraded Michael Lewis. Run game may take awhile to get on track, but when it does look for Turner to have over 100 yards and Norwood to chip in another 50 with 30 yards receiving.

Passing
The 49ers have one of the better CB tandems in Walt Harris and Nate Clements, who they way overpaid a couple of years ago. I believe that Walt Harris is IR for the year but I can’t find any confirmation to that truth. Clements may hold Roddy down for a quarter or so, but there’s a reason he was a Pro-Bowler last year: he takes the best CB they have and STILL balls out. Clements is good, but no Asante Samuel. Jenks looks to have another solid day picking up 5 catches or so and many of first downs conversions. But as in all Defenseive Match-ups, even if a DEF has two good CB’s, chances are they don’t have three and a stud OLB/SS/FS combo to boot. HD will have a great day against their nickel back Dre Bly or Tarell Brown. And the best certainly for last: TG will completely dominate anyone they throw at them Michael Lewis, Parys Haralson, Manny Lawson, or even Patrick Willis will have no answer for this Future HOF’er. Big, big day for TG. Matty Ice will have no problem whatsoever from Mark Roman at FS. The Air Attack is called on early when Ground Attack takes time to get on track. Matty Ice has a career day throwing for over 250 yards and 3 TDs, 2 of them going to TG who also chips in 110 of those yards.

Final Breakdown and TE#3 Roster Spot Analysis to come in a bit……..

D3

June 6th, 2009
2:43 pm

Some Interesting Reading from AtlantaFalcons.com:

Cornerback Von Hutchins and defensive end John Abraham returned to the OTA practice field on Wednesday.

Abraham was held out of early workouts while recovering from some lingering bumps and bruises from the 2008 campaign. Hutchins, a free agent addition last year, missed the entire season after injuring his foot on the first day of training camp.

“I still (got some time) before I’m 100 percent healthy,” Hutchins said on May 21, knowing he would soon be back at practice. “But I’m looking forward to getting out there and getting a little sore.”
Away from the field, Hutchins acted as a mentor to a young secondary.
Now he’s ready to extend his six-year career which, to date, includes 142 tackles, two interceptions and 16 starts.
“I had all that time during the season to re-evaluate a lot of things,” he said. “I learned a lot about myself and the team. I learned a lot about my family. But this is football now. I’m ready to get back on the field. I’m working on rehabbing. I’m staying after practice rehabbing. I’m getting here before and getting some treatment and stuff in.”

Abraham led the Falcons with 16.5 sacks in 2008 while fighting through a variety of ailments. Smith decided to give the 10-year veteran some time off to open offseason workouts. The three-time Pro Bowler got some work Wednesday, though the team limited offensive and defensive linemen to focus more on the passing game. “We had a plan for John,” Head Coach Mike Smith said. “We’re going to work John with that plan in mind. John has been through a lot of OTAs and a lot of mini camps so we want to get him acclimated to some of the new things we’re doing defensively.”

In other OTA news…

… Smith called this week’s practices a “passing camp,” saying linemen will get to retreat to the weight room before the end of practice while the rest of the team focuses on throwing the ball and defending the pass (not bad since the temperature has been hovering around 90 degrees).

… With Hutchins back the team is closer to 100 percent. Smith is pleased with the health of the Falcons at this point in the offseason.

“Jeff Fish and his staff have done a good job preparing these guys,” he said. “We’ve had very few pulled muscles or any of those soft tissue injuries. We’re really healthy and hopefully we can stay that way. Our goal has always been (to be healthy) for September 13. So hopefully we can accomplish that.”

… After missing some time during voluntary workouts earlier in the offseason, newly-acquired tight end Tony Gonzalez is on the field for a second week.

The coach is still happy the 10-time Pro Bowler is part of the Falcons family.

“Tony is going to be a great addition to our team,” he said. “We’re always trying to improve and he’s definitely going to make us a better football team — offensively, defensively and special teams.”

… The team announced tackle Tyson Clabo signed his restricted free agent tender on Wednesday, confirming his status for 2009. He and right guard Harvey Dahl are restricted free agents this season. Both received a reported second-round tender, meaning any team to sign them would have to forfeit a draft pick.

Atlanta also released undrafted free agent Brock Christopher.

And from our D-Coordinator……..

Seven of the Falcons eight picks in the 2009 NFL Draft are defensive players.

Safe to say the team is looking for an infusion of talent and youth on that side of the ball. That, of course, comes with its own set of pros and cons.

But three weeks into organized team activities, defensive coordinator Brian VanGoder likes the upside shown by the speedy group taking shape on the field.

The Falcons are in the process of replacing five starters from a defense that — at the end of 2008 — sported an average age of 27.8

The 2009 Falcons could start multiple rookies on defense including, but not limited to, defensive tackle Peria Jerry, safety William Moore and cornerback Chris Owens. They’re competing with an equally youthful bunch including a second-year safety (Thomas DeCoud) and a third-year defensive tackle (Trey Lewis).

As of Thursday, just three players on the defensive roster are age 30 or older. Twenty-seven are age 26 or younger.

Curtis Lofton, who started at middle linebacker as a rookie, just turned 23.

“Curtis had an outstanding rookie season,” VanGorder said of Lofton, who finished fourth on the team with 108 tackles while playing primarily on first and second down. “Now he’s in his second year and much more comfortable with the system and communications. Therefore he can play a lot faster. He did not play in our sub package last year so that’s an area right now he’s really working on and trying to catch up a little bit… First year to second year we should see good, solid improvement from him.”

Lofton came off the field on passing downs last season. Defending the pass is an area of emphasis moving forward and something the team must do with quicker, but less experienced players.

The Falcons finished 21st in the league last season allowing 220 passing yards per game. The defense got younger in the secondary over the offseason but it will be up to various competitions to determine starters in 2009.

“I think we have to (see who rises to the top),” VanGorder said. “It will sort itself out in mini camp, OTAs and training camp… The competition will sort itself out and the guys that are deserving will earn it over that course of time. Competition is a healthy thing right now.”

The group can get help from the front seven in the form of pressure on the quarterback.

It’s not a perfect correlation, but it doesn’t take a multitude of numbers to realize more sacks — or hands in the quarterback’s face — creates a poor throwing environment.

John Abraham recorded 16.5 sacks in 2008. No other player had more than four (Chauncey Davis).

VanGorder likes what he’s seeing so far from second-year defensive end Kroy Biermann. He’s put on some extra muscle and, with Abraham taking some time to recoup from injuries, is getting extra reps.

The team also returns a starter in Jamaal Anderson and drafted three defensive linemen.

“I think we’ve got a guy like Kroy who is a year older and has some natural pass rush abilities,” VanGorder said. “Lawrence Sidbury, who we drafted out of Richmond, gives us another speed edge type of guy. Inside with Peria Jerry we drafted another sudden, explosive guy. So we should be much improved and we need to be much improved in regards to the pass rush. How that will all work itself out, we’ll see but it’s a good competition for us right now. The speed and experience factor are the biggest indicators right now that we’ll be better.”

Speed creates opportunity on defense which, in a perfect world, leads to more turnovers.

Atlanta finished 25th against the run (127.5 yards per game) last season.

The focus thus far has been on speed and explosiveness, but VanGorder also talked Wednesday about what the team can do to replace 345-pound defensive tackle Grady Jackson, who signed a free agent deal with Detroit.

As he puts it, three players are looking to fill the role.

All fit with the overall themes of youth and speed.

“Right now (Thomas Johnson) and Trey Lewis are battling it out,” he said. “Jason Jefferson is a much better looking player. There’s competition in there but I think the size of T.J. and Trey in regards to a Grady comparison gives us that space eater, but a little bit faster and run-to-the-ball kind of guy. We hope we’ll be better.”

Johnson, 305 pounds, has spent time with three different NFL teams. Jefferson started a game for Jackson in 2008. Lewis missed all of last season with a torn ACL, but says he’s rejuvinated and a better student of the game.

Johnson and Jefferson are 27. Lewis is 24.

D3

June 6th, 2009
2:44 pm

Some Interesting Reading from AtlantaFalcons.com(a little long, but good):

Cornerback Von Hutchins and defensive end John Abraham returned to the OTA practice field on Wednesday.

Abraham was held out of early workouts while recovering from some lingering bumps and bruises from the 2008 campaign. Hutchins, a free agent addition last year, missed the entire season after injuring his foot on the first day of training camp.

“I still (got some time) before I’m 100 percent healthy,” Hutchins said on May 21, knowing he would soon be back at practice. “But I’m looking forward to getting out there and getting a little sore.”
Away from the field, Hutchins acted as a mentor to a young secondary.
Now he’s ready to extend his six-year career which, to date, includes 142 tackles, two interceptions and 16 starts.
“I had all that time during the season to re-evaluate a lot of things,” he said. “I learned a lot about myself and the team. I learned a lot about my family. But this is football now. I’m ready to get back on the field. I’m working on rehabbing. I’m staying after practice rehabbing. I’m getting here before and getting some treatment and stuff in.”

Abraham led the Falcons with 16.5 sacks in 2008 while fighting through a variety of ailments. Smith decided to give the 10-year veteran some time off to open offseason workouts. The three-time Pro Bowler got some work Wednesday, though the team limited offensive and defensive linemen to focus more on the passing game. “We had a plan for John,” Head Coach Mike Smith said. “We’re going to work John with that plan in mind. John has been through a lot of OTAs and a lot of mini camps so we want to get him acclimated to some of the new things we’re doing defensively.”

In other OTA news…

… Smith called this week’s practices a “passing camp,” saying linemen will get to retreat to the weight room before the end of practice while the rest of the team focuses on throwing the ball and defending the pass (not bad since the temperature has been hovering around 90 degrees).

… With Hutchins back the team is closer to 100 percent. Smith is pleased with the health of the Falcons at this point in the offseason.

“Jeff Fish and his staff have done a good job preparing these guys,” he said. “We’ve had very few pulled muscles or any of those soft tissue injuries. We’re really healthy and hopefully we can stay that way. Our goal has always been (to be healthy) for September 13. So hopefully we can accomplish that.”

… After missing some time during voluntary workouts earlier in the offseason, newly-acquired tight end Tony Gonzalez is on the field for a second week.

The coach is still happy the 10-time Pro Bowler is part of the Falcons family.

“Tony is going to be a great addition to our team,” he said. “We’re always trying to improve and he’s definitely going to make us a better football team — offensively, defensively and special teams.”

… The team announced tackle Tyson Clabo signed his restricted free agent tender on Wednesday, confirming his status for 2009. He and right guard Harvey Dahl are restricted free agents this season. Both received a reported second-round tender, meaning any team to sign them would have to forfeit a draft pick.

Atlanta also released undrafted free agent Brock Christopher.

And from our D-Coordinator……..

Seven of the Falcons eight picks in the 2009 NFL Draft are defensive players.

Safe to say the team is looking for an infusion of talent and youth on that side of the ball. That, of course, comes with its own set of pros and cons.

But three weeks into organized team activities, defensive coordinator Brian VanGoder likes the upside shown by the speedy group taking shape on the field.

The Falcons are in the process of replacing five starters from a defense that — at the end of 2008 — sported an average age of 27.8

The 2009 Falcons could start multiple rookies on defense including, but not limited to, defensive tackle Peria Jerry, safety William Moore and cornerback Chris Owens. They’re competing with an equally youthful bunch including a second-year safety (Thomas DeCoud) and a third-year defensive tackle (Trey Lewis).

As of Thursday, just three players on the defensive roster are age 30 or older. Twenty-seven are age 26 or younger.

Curtis Lofton, who started at middle linebacker as a rookie, just turned 23.

“Curtis had an outstanding rookie season,” VanGorder said of Lofton, who finished fourth on the team with 108 tackles while playing primarily on first and second down. “Now he’s in his second year and much more comfortable with the system and communications. Therefore he can play a lot faster. He did not play in our sub package last year so that’s an area right now he’s really working on and trying to catch up a little bit… First year to second year we should see good, solid improvement from him.”

Lofton came off the field on passing downs last season. Defending the pass is an area of emphasis moving forward and something the team must do with quicker, but less experienced players.

The Falcons finished 21st in the league last season allowing 220 passing yards per game. The defense got younger in the secondary over the offseason but it will be up to various competitions to determine starters in 2009.

“I think we have to (see who rises to the top),” VanGorder said. “It will sort itself out in mini camp, OTAs and training camp… The competition will sort itself out and the guys that are deserving will earn it over that course of time. Competition is a healthy thing right now.”

The group can get help from the front seven in the form of pressure on the quarterback.

It’s not a perfect correlation, but it doesn’t take a multitude of numbers to realize more sacks — or hands in the quarterback’s face — creates a poor throwing environment.

John Abraham recorded 16.5 sacks in 2008. No other player had more than four (Chauncey Davis).

VanGorder likes what he’s seeing so far from second-year defensive end Kroy Biermann. He’s put on some extra muscle and, with Abraham taking some time to recoup from injuries, is getting extra reps.

The team also returns a starter in Jamaal Anderson and drafted three defensive linemen.

“I think we’ve got a guy like Kroy who is a year older and has some natural pass rush abilities,” VanGorder said. “Lawrence Sidbury, who we drafted out of Richmond, gives us another speed edge type of guy. Inside with Peria Jerry we drafted another sudden, explosive guy. So we should be much improved and we need to be much improved in regards to the pass rush. How that will all work itself out, we’ll see but it’s a good competition for us right now. The speed and experience factor are the biggest indicators right now that we’ll be better.”

Speed creates opportunity on defense which, in a perfect world, leads to more turnovers.

Atlanta finished 25th against the run (127.5 yards per game) last season.

The focus thus far has been on speed and explosiveness, but VanGorder also talked Wednesday about what the team can do to replace 345-pound defensive tackle Grady Jackson, who signed a free agent deal with Detroit.

As he puts it, three players are looking to fill the role.

All fit with the overall themes of youth and speed.

“Right now (Thomas Johnson) and Trey Lewis are battling it out,” he said. “Jason Jefferson is a much better looking player. There’s competition in there but I think the size of T.J. and Trey in regards to a Grady comparison gives us that space eater, but a little bit faster and run-to-the-ball kind of guy. We hope we’ll be better.”

Johnson, 305 pounds, has spent time with three different NFL teams. Jefferson started a game for Jackson in 2008. Lewis missed all of last season with a torn ACL, but says he’s rejuvinated and a better student of the game.

Johnson and Jefferson are 27. Lewis is 24.

jason

June 6th, 2009
4:06 pm

Unca’ Bob, The player research GURU. I need some info on a DT,Thomas Johnson. Getting props from BVG. D3 great article, glad you posted. Who is this Thomas Johnson? Might be pushing WALKER. We all thought Walker would work with Bab, Jerry, and Lewis. Now we have Johnson and Jefferson. Competition from every where at all positions. Players can’t sit and rest on their laurels.

falcon21

June 6th, 2009
8:10 pm

D3, I am a proud graduate of the big C. As for the Dawgs I think we will be ok at RB but I am a little concerned about our WR’s. I think the D will be ok but my biggest concern is QB. I’m not a big fan of Cox, I hope Jason is right and Cox turns out to be a right handed Greene.

Ken Strickland

June 6th, 2009
8:17 pm

D3-Excellent article. And based on that article, it appears if DT TLewis is healthy and 100 percent, he might earn the starting spot and PJerry will be used along with JAbraham in passing situations. MLB CLofton is still young and inexperienced and still needs some protection in front of him. In that area, TLewis is the best option for the job.

Bottomline, with the talent and experience we have returning at every position from last yrs active DEF roster, we don’t have to start any rookies to potentially be an outstanding DEF.

jason

June 6th, 2009
8:18 pm

falcon21, Cox will make plays. He won’t beat himself. Depends on what he has around him… RBs and WRs. He will be throwing to the TEs more.

Stirg d'Nahsif

June 6th, 2009
8:35 pm

Here here, Ken. I say we put the rookies on ice, where feasible, and start the players returning from last season, including the injured. That way, our second string will look even more impressive, than what I posted earlier, and will mature while easing into the game.

Allow me to re-post my mock starting defense:

DE Abraham
DT Lewis
DT Babineaux
DE Anderson
LB Peterson
LB Lofton
LB Nicholas
CB Houston
CB Hutchins, Jackson or Owens (that’ll be intriguing to watch)
FS Coleman
SS DeCoud

That’ll still give us a good looking second string:
DE Biermann and Sidbury
DT Jerry
DT Walker or this Johnson guy I’m hearing about (question is, why didn’t he workout for three other teams and he’s only 27?)
DE Davis
LB Wire
LB Gilbert
LB James
CB Owens
CB Grimes
SS Moore
FS DeCoud and Fudge

Simply, Wow! What an All-Star team we have, gentlemen.

falcon21

June 6th, 2009
8:38 pm

Jason I think the O-line will be alot better and with a good running game it should take some pressure off Cox. And as you said the TE will be involved alot more. Ken, I agree. I think the Falcons D is going to be alot stronger than people think. They are going to surprise some people.

D3

June 6th, 2009
9:28 pm

Good Saturday P.M. Bird-Cage Fellas! Where does the time go, already Saturday night rolling into Sunday. All good because we’re one day closer to Training Camp. And this one is shaping up to be the most competitive, mayber ever. To our Falcon-i’s…………

Thomas Johnson – so what a shock to read the article from AtlantaFalcons.com and see BVG talking about this guy. I went back for a double take and the name didn’t look familiar. But BVG seems to be pretty high on him judging from his comments. So by that count that puts us at 6 DTs competing for 4 spots on the active roster. Last year we carried 4 – Big Grady, Babs, Jason Jefferson, & Kindal Moorehead. We know Babs, Jerry, & Lewis are shoe-ins if healthy; so could this Thomas Johnson beat out Vance Walker for the 4th spot? If they close I’d say we go with Walker since he’s younger and has more upside. Remember that they always can play around with numbers depending on the depth they have overall. For example, last year we carried 4 RBs and 6 WRs; and this year I bet we carry 5 RBs and 5 WRs, JMHO.

More in a bit……….

D3

June 6th, 2009
10:10 pm

After stretching it out over the week, its finally time for the Atlanta Falcons vs San Francisco 49ers Game #4 Breakdown and Prediction….

Under Singletary’s guidance it looks like the 49ers have finally got it right with their experiences of coaches who have burned out and been inconsistent and unproductive. The General Management is as much to blame as the coaches as they have missed on many Draft Picks over the years, starting with Alex Smith. 49ers look to surprise some people this year with Gore, Bruce, Crabtree, Bryant Johnson, & Brandon Jones as weapons. Maybe Vernon Davis FINALLY has a year that makes him worth the #6 overall pick. Until they draft or acquire a franchise QB it will all be for naught. Shaun Hill or Alex Smith are NOT the answer, period. Their DEF has a few building blocks with Willis, Haralson, & Smith in the front seven and a formidable secondary; but they’re not there yet.

The game momentum will be in the 49ers favor for a brief period behind a re-energized home crowd and a surprising winning or even record (3-1 or 2-2). Our Falcons will have a hard time getting our Ground Attack going early on, forcing our Air Attack to come in early and soften them up. Roddy, Jenks, HD, & TG will have big days with Matty Ice picking their secondary apart. Offensively, we make it a 10 point lead or so going into halftime, but we pour it on in the 3rd and 4th quarters. Our DEF may struggle early in the 1st, but after going up against 3 solid OFF’s (Miami, Carolina, NE), SF pales in comparison. Even though the 49ers are on the rise, they have a ways to go and have too many holes and question marks across the board.

Final: Tough and close early, but ends in a blowout. Turner over 100 yds with 2 TDs, Roddy adds one, and TG adds two with 110 yards of his own. Falcons roll to an excellent 3-1 record against very tough opponents and look good a quarter of the way through the season.

Falcons 41 – Niners 17. 3-1 and ready to keep rolling!

Ed

June 7th, 2009
12:09 am

Ken Strickland

June 7th, 2009
1:08 am

D3-If a player misses the cut and doesn’t make the 53 man roster, he can be placed on the practice squad. Some of the players who’s name you don’t recognize were likely on last yr practice squad, either ours or someone elses.

Trust me people, the only thing that can slow the development of our DEF this season will be injuries and a lack of experience and chemistry. We’ll have an abundance of speed, quickness, youth, aggressiveness, mobility, versatility and depth at virtually every DEF position. Our DEF won’t be the biggest or the best, but it will definitely be one of the NFL’s quickest, fastest and most talented.

Our OFF will have the size and strength to wear DEF’s down and take control by the 4th qtr. Our DEF will be able to utilize our youth, stamina, speed, quickness and depth to wear teams down by the 4th qtr. After the 1st 3 gms, and our bye week, I see the Falcons taking charge and dominating the rest of their regular season schedule.

MAN, IT’S AMAZING WHAT THIS TEAM HAS ACCOMPLISHED UNDER TD AND SMITTY, JUST ONE SEASON REMOVED FROM SO MUCH ADVERSITY AND UPHEAVAL, BOTH ON AND OFF THE FIELD. IT’S ACTUALLY SCARY HOW MUCH QUALITY TALENT THEY’VE MANAGED TO ACCOMULATE IN JUST 2 DRAFTS. IMAGINE WHAT THIS TEAM WILL BE LIKE NEXT YR, AFTER THIS YRS DRAFTEES GET A YR UNDER THEIR BELTS, AND THE LARGE CROP OF DRAFTEES FROM NEXT YRS DRAFT ARE ADDED? WE COULD END UP BEING ONE OF THE YOUNGEST, QUICKEST AND FASTEST SUPERBOWL CONTENDERS IN NFL HISTORY, IF NOT THE YOUNGEST, QUICKEST AND FASTEST.

Unca' Bob

June 7th, 2009
3:12 am

This is from atlantafalcons.com on Thomas Jefferson.

Signed as an undrafted rookie free agent by the Dallas Cowboys on August 28, 2005.

Waived by Dallas on September 4, 2006 and was signed by the Houston Texans as a free agent three days later.

Waived by Houston on August 28, 2007.

Signed by the Jets to a reserve/future contract on 1/15/08.

Signed by the Falcons to a reserve/future contract on 1/7/09.

2008 (JETS)
Spent the 2008 training camp on the New York Jets roster before being released prior to the regular season.

2006 (TEXANS)
Saw action in 11 games (three starts).

Recorded a career-high five tackles (four solo) against Cleveland (12/31).

Registered his first career start vs. Buffalo (11/19).

2005 (COWBOYS)
In his first season in the NFL, competed in two games while adding one assisted tackle.

Made his NFL debut against Washington (12/18).

COLLEGE
Posted 47 tackles and four sacks as a senior at Middle Tennessee State University.

Played in 11 games (eight starts) as a junior while contributing with 33 tackles and four sacks.

PERSONAL
Attended Hamilton High School in Memphis, Tennessee.

Earned all-state, all-metro and all-city honors as a Hamilton senior.

Graduated with a degree in Education from MTSU in 2004.

Unca' Bob

June 7th, 2009
3:16 am

Jason Jefferson

Originally drafted in the sixth round (193rd overall) by the New Orleans Saints in the 2005 NFL Draft.

Waived by the Saints on August 28, 2005 and signed was to the Philadelphia Eagles practice squad on October 4, 2005.

Signed by the Buffalo Bills from the Eagles practice squad on October 12, 2005.

Claimed off of waivers by the Atlanta Falcons on August 31, 2008.

2007 (BILLS)
Saw action in a career-high 11 games totaling a career-high 20 tackles.

Tied a career-high of four tackles against the New York Jets (9/30).

2006 (BILLS)
Competed in four games while contributing with six tackles (two solo).

2005 (BILLS)
Played in five of the last eight games during the 2005 campaign, but did not record a tackle.

COLLEGE
Started every game on the Wisconsin defensive line as a senior and posted 25 tackles (14 solo), three sacks and one forced fumble.

Collared 30 tackles and one sack in 14 games as a junior.

Took over the starting role as a sophomore year in 2002 and posted a career-best 45 tackles.

PERSONAL
Attended Leo High School where he was a three-time offensive line MVP and team captain in both football and track.

Won the 1998 state title in the shot put.

Registered 310 career tackles and 43 sacks.

Earned Academic All-State honors.

jason

June 7th, 2009
9:34 am

Unca’ Bob, you are the man. I asked and recieved. Somethimes I think in this day and age there is not a lot of difference in a practice squad player and one who makes a NFL roster. If Johnson keeps proving BVG right… what will happen with Walker. BVG talked about Babs, Jerry, Lewis along with Johnson and Jefferson. Don’t recall anything on Walker. One of the reasons I like Walker was his size. I asked a question a while back in regards to the DT position. In the 4-3 ATL runs a DT and a NT right? If so I had Jerry backing up Babs in that format, and Walker backing up Lewis at the NT position. AM I close to being on target?

Unca' Bob

June 7th, 2009
10:12 am

http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d80d6974b&template=with-video-with-comments&confirm=true

Jason- This is a link posted by JJ. Should you go there, it looked to me these were set-up to rush the passer. Enjoy, I did.

Ken Strickland

June 7th, 2009
11:47 am

UNCA BOB-Like JASON said, YOU THE MAN. That was a very revealing article. I posted sometime ago about the problems DT GJackson’s lack of mobility, speed and quickness caused on the DL. It prevented us from using stunts, which would have helped DE JAnderson tremendously, especially in pass rushing situations.

Teams recognized our base DEF was very weak against the pass on 1st and 2nd down, particularly on the left side(DT GJackson & DE JAnderson). That was partly becaused we focuseed on stopping the run on those downs and our SS and LB’s were always close to the line of scrimmage and vulnerable to play action. Teams knew we couldn’t do any effective stunts with GJackson at DT, so they took full advantage of it on 1st and 2nd downs before he, DE JAnderson, MLB CLofton and SS LMalloy could be substutited for. We were able to keep the pts allowed down because when teams were in or near the redzone, passing became more difficult due to the lack of realestate, and our front 7 wasn’t as vulnerable to playaction.

This yrs DEF will be able to do some serious stunting and blitzing, and we’ll be able to do it on any down regardless of which front 7 is in the gm.

LAST YR, OFF’S PREPARED THEMSELVES TO ATTACK OUR WEAKNESSES, LIKE SS, LDT, LDE & OLB, BECAUSE WE HAD FEW STRENGTHS. THIS YR, THEIR PREPARATION WILL BE GEARED TO TRYING TO NEUTRALIZE OUR STRENGTHS, BECAUSE OUR ONLY OBVIOUS WEAKNESSES WILL BE YOUTH AND INEXPERIENCE.

jason

June 7th, 2009
12:31 pm

Unca’ Bob, Yeah that was the link to the 3-4. I liked the article. From reading D3″s post BVG likes the size factor that Johnson and Jefferson bring behind Lewis. Wasn’t Grady let go by ATL due the production they got from Lewis before injry? Lewis will start if he proves 100% health wise, and the ability to stay healthy. That’s why I see Jerry backing up Babs. The size factor will play. You still need that big DT that can pull the double team whether run or pass. That’s what they have in Lewis. In the base defense I see Babs with Jerry backing up in the rotation. Alson Lewis at NT with Jefferson, Johnson, or hopefully Walker backing up. For the record my front 4 will be:

LDE Anderson DT Babs NT Lewis RDE Abe

Secon Team:
LDE Davis DT Jerry NT Jefferson RDE Bierrman

You still have SID, and either Walker or Johnson.

Unca' Bob

June 7th, 2009
12:33 pm

Ken Strickland,

You flatter me, Sir. I think all the Cager’s know who the real man is ’round these parts. I’m still in the developemental stage in my “proess” to become “a” man. My process continues…

jason

June 7th, 2009
12:42 pm

Unca’ Bob, You Sir are well on your way. There are alot of football intellegence in the cage. I feel I get educated everytime I read. I am the rookie here. The research you and others drop on us is incredible.

VICK SUPPORTER 2

June 7th, 2009
3:11 pm

8-8 IN ‘09….”VEGAS YOU ROCK”

GO FALCONS!

richbrave

June 7th, 2009
4:20 pm

How’s my two main men LAWRENCE SIDBURY Jr. and AARON KELLY lookin’?

Sarah B

June 7th, 2009
4:33 pm

Happy Sunday from Vegas all. Good posts – keep ‘em coming. Off to play golf.

angry banker

June 7th, 2009
6:03 pm

d3 – awesome article. a few thoughts – Biermann was a beast in D2 ball (or 1AA or whatever the hell they’re calling it today). I think we won every possbile award and was considered to be the best player in the whole division. As I remember, that Wyoming team gave some SEC teams a run for their money. Secondly, it seems to me, no one on this blog really gives big Grady Jackson any love. Yes, he was slow – but theres something be said for just being a roadblock – in these two gaps, you will not run, and I dare you to try and move me. BVG called him a ’space eater’. I hope our boys can make the adjustments and do a better job of stopping the run this year. Good find man – keep stuff like this coming!!

unca bob – good man!! looks like jefferson started out hot and fizzled. any idea what happened? injury? bad fit for teams that just needed depth and put him on reserve? what are your thoughts?

BigMike

June 7th, 2009
6:13 pm

I MustWrite,and gdg73, First know you can’t teach 6′5, but when you go from a 6′5 receiver in the ACC to being undrafted something was flawed!GDG73, Eric Berry is probably going to end up in the Steve Atwater, Ronnie Lott, and Ed Reed mole, but an NFL corner he is not. IMustWrite you also mention we need depth not dinosaurs, but you want to bring in Rodney Harrison. Stay off the Yack when blogging, because you have no understanding of the League or football in general!

jason

June 7th, 2009
6:28 pm

angry banker, That’s why BVG was talking about when he was mentioning Jefferson and Johnson, both having the ability to eat up space while also be able to run to the ball. While Big Grady did eat up space, he couldn’t go and run to the ball. The whole point being… The #1 word in ATL’s vocabulary is the “PROCESS”. The #2 word is “VERSATILITY”. That’s what both Jefferson and Johnson bring to the table. Something ‘ol Grady couldn’t.

VICK SUPPORTER 2

June 7th, 2009
7:04 pm

8-8 in ‘09 AND NO PLAYOFFS……STILL BETTER THAN ‘07

GO FALCONS!

jason

June 7th, 2009
8:42 pm

I was on my way to saying all draft picks this year were going to make the team. I am now wavering on Walker.

D3

June 7th, 2009
11:13 pm

Good Sunday PM ‘Cage Gents and Gals! Gonna be a quick one tonight, because I gotta get some shut-eye and get ready for summer classes, BLECH! The House CEO had a girls night out tonight, so my little WR had my hands tied and prevented from getting in the ‘Cage tonight. Great convo’s and football talk during our “dry” time of Falcons Football. Speaking of……….

On Tap this Week for Supplemental Football Talk:

Weekly Opponent Breakdown & Analysis
Game #5 – Atlanta Falcons vs Chicago Bears (Sunday Night Football)

Monday – State of the Franchise/Off-Season Analysis
Tuesday – Bears OFF vs Falcons DEF
Wednesday – Falcons OFF vs Bears DEF
Thursday – Game Breakdown & Final Predictions
Friday – News/Headlines from around the NFL
Sat/Sun – Catch-Up Days

Roster Spot Analysis
Monday – TE#3
Tuesday – LT
Wednesday – LG
Thursday – C
Friday – RG
Sat/Sun – Catch-Up

falcon21 – hope your right about our Dawgs. I’m sure we’ll do fine. I’m really concerned about our WRs and RBs. And we know what awfulness(is that a word?) that Willie M. is capable of on DEF.

Unca’ Bob – Nice Research. I think Jefferson might be the odd man out this year with such an infusion of new DT talent. If we carry 4, the battle for #4 is between Walker/TJ/Jefferson. If we carry 5, than the 5th looks to be between Jefferson and TJ. I can’t see us not keeping Walker over the other two since he is a TD/Smitty “guy” they drafted.

jason – that battle for the starting spot between Jerry and Lewis looks to be the fiercest of any other positions, except for the SS position. Can’t wait for training camp.

Richbrave – your boys look to be doing well for themselves. El Sid looks to have boatloads of talent, but needs some work to get to the NFL level, per Mini-Camp and OTA reports. Aaron Kelly looks to be a leading candidate to earn the #5 WR spot. He’s in a tough battle against Troy Bergeron and Eric Weems. To earn the spot, he’s gotta be a stud on special teams.

Sarah B. – how’s Vegas-Land? Any “crazy” stories to report? Enjoy the rest of the Vaca’.

angry banker – very true that Grady was a huge asset in the run game, but I think they’re looking for someone they don’t have to take out on 3rd downs every single time. He was good, but on the downside of his career.

Alright peeps have a great week and we’ll see you in the ‘Cage soon. And on that note…………

52 DAYS AND COUNTING TO 2009 ATLANTA FALCONS TRAINING CAMP!!!!!!!!!

Ken Strickland

June 7th, 2009
11:51 pm

Fellow cagers, consider the following. Last yr, secondaries couldn’t contain WR’s RWhite(88 rec) or TE TGonzalez(96 rec), even though both receivced consistent double teams. Now that TE TGonzalez is a Falcon , their’s no way teams can double team both he and RWhite and still expect to successfully cover MJenkins, or even HDouglas. The only thing better than having a TE throw a good block is to have a TE dynamic enough to have a DEF player assigned to cover him, which removes the defender from the area of the play.

JASON-I don’t see DT VWalker getting cut. He has too much talent and potential and can get much better. Both Jefferson and Johnson have been with multiple organizations and hasn’t shown as much upside. Plus, he’ll be cheaper. I see at least one of these DT’s ending up on the practice squad.

Unca' Bob

June 8th, 2009
10:03 am

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/194440-atlanta-falcons-super-bowl-bound

I think this was written by K Strick because I have read it before.

D3

June 8th, 2009
11:15 am

Enter youGood Monda(ne) Morning Bird-Cage Fellas and Gals! Monday always seems to come way to early after a usual, super-quick weekend. Summer seems to be rolling right along and we’re having some great dialogue here in the Bird-Cage. If we have this much going on now, just wait until Training Camp gets close. Some fan bloggers just are junkies like many of us, as Falcon Devil stated. Many of our fellow ‘Cagers probably will return once there’s news to report. But for the hard-core crew, to ‘Birds and ‘Ball……..

After a long procrastinating delay,….Roster Spot Analysis – TE#3

Justin Peele, Jason Rader, & Keith Zinger

Stats
Justin Peele(2008 Falcons) – 15 Rec, 159 Yds, 2 TDs
Jason Rader(2008 Falcons) – 1 Rec, 26 Yds, 0 TDs
Keith Zinger(2007-LSU) – 6 Rec, 51 Yds, 0 TDs(Only 1 Career TD)

Justin Peele
Pros
Came out of nowhere to be a decent contributor for the Falcons. Has good size at 6′4, 250 and proved to be a decent red-zone threat for Matty Ice, scoring 2 TDs in fairly limited playing time. Had at least 1 reception in 10 games last year and became the go-to TE once Hartsock got injuried. Looks to possibly move up the depth chart and be the #2 TE with TG on Two-TE sets Mularkey likes to run. Good hands and rarely drops.

Cons
Limited speed and playmaking ability once he gets the ball. Is 30 years old and just now is cracking a roster on a consistent basis. Even though he was the dependable RECV TE threat, the Falcons ranked close to or dead last in throwing to TEs in the NFL. Posed no serious threat as a true RECV TE, but rather a check-down option. Put undue pressure on Roddy & Turner in the red-zone with limited catches or plays made. Compounds problem with No Youth at TE with all TE’s being over 30.

Jason Rader

Jason Rader & Keith Zinger (2008 Practice Squad)
Pros
Even though he missed the Active Roster, the Falcons thought enough of him to give him one of the few roster spots beating out Matrez Milner for that position who was drafted higher. Has good size at 6′4, 268 and is known as a good blocking TE. A much younger Ben Hartsock(plus), which fits well into Mularkeys TE-Block First Mantra. Is the only young TE on a Falcons roster with all TEs (TG, Peele, Hartsock) 30 or older. Rader was called up several times once injury set in with Hartsock. A little more of a RECV threat than Zinger.

Cons
Failed to make the team and beat out Justin Peele after being drafted #7 and being 7 years younger. Absolutely ZERO receiving threat. Didn’t even score 1 TD his senior year at LSU. Zinger too heavy for TE & Rader bounced around on practice squad never making much throughout career. A young Ben Hartsock(minus), one-dimensional blocking TE that poses no threat to DEF’s that can hone into a run or play action when in the game. Might be on the chopping block even for practice squad with TG coming over. Rader dropped HUGE easy walk-in TD catch against Tampa Bay, or either caught it and fumbled it. Not exactly the way to show your stuff when you get a chance.

TE#3 – Justin Peele
Practice Squad – Keith Zinger(Groomed as Hartsocks eventual replacement)
Out – Jason Rader

Look for us to draft a TE in next years draft with our only serious dual-threat TE being TG.

Nookah

June 8th, 2009
11:30 am

Greetings!!!! Guys you all make me so proud. This is indeed a Football blog of no mean order. This blog will soon get national attention if it hasn’talready. The knowledge here is spewing from all directions and the football facts are flowing fluently and frequently. The seriousness of our bloggers have eliminated the vitriol and it’s all football 24/7/365. Booyah!!!
“Chase dem crazy baldheads out of town!!!!” (You know I have to quote Mr. Marley)

Check this out Cagers!!! I am not sure if anyone posted this article before but here goes.

Considering the Kansas City Chiefs situation at the quarterback position last year, the fact that Chiefs tight end Tony Gonzalez still managed to have one of his best years as a pro is quite remarkable. Gonzalez (6-foot-5, 251 pounds and 33 years old) finished the 2008 season with 96 catches for 1,058 yards, scoring 10 touchdowns.

Just think of what an offensive coordinator could do with a guy like Gonzalez if he had players of equal talent at the other skill positions. Gonzalez wanted out of Kansas City for some time, and now he has hooked up with a team that has some notable talent at the key positions on their offense. The Atlanta Falcons offense was loaded everywhere, except for the huge hole at the tight end position.

Supporting cast: The 2008 season was supposed to be a rebuilding year in Atlanta. Certainly no one expected Falcons rookie quarterback Matt Ryan to start every game his rookie year and perform the way he did all season. Ryan, drafted with the third overall pick in the first round of the 2008 NFL Draft, showed incredible poise and maturity, completing 265 of 434 passes for 3,440 yards, with 16 touchdown passes. After a dismal 4-12 season in 2007, Ryan stepped in and the Falcons posted an 11-5 record, making the playoffs.

The continued improvement of Falcons wide receiver Roddy White was a huge factor in Ryan’s rookie success and the success of the team as a whole. White (6-foot, 208 pounds) had the best season of his career in 2008, posting 88 receptions for 1,382 yards and seven touchdowns.

An even bigger factor contributing to the Falcons’ success last season was the acquisition of former San Diego Chargers running back Michael Turner. Serving as the workhorse, Turner averaged 4.5 yards per carry and finished the year with 1,699 yards while scoring 17 touchdowns. With Falcons running back Jerious Norwood providing the speed to complement Turner’s power, the Falcons had an effective running game, and it took tremendous pressure off of their rookie quarterback as well as the offensive line.

The only glaring offensive need the Falcons had was at tight end. Upon looking over the stat sheet, it’s impossible to overlook the gaping chasm right in the middle of the Falcons offense.

Falcons tight end Ben Hartsock finished with three catches for 26 on the year yards. That left tight end Justin Peelle as the main man at the tight end position in terms of production. In stark contrast to what Gonzalez was able to do in the Chiefs offense last season, Peelle led the Falcons tight ends with only 15 catches for 159 yards, with two touchdowns. Evidently Peelle fails to strike terror into the hearts of opposing defenses. With no tight end to worry about, opposing linebackers can key on Turner, and opposing safeties can focus more on the wide receivers. They also have the option to bring a safety down toward the line of scrimmage on first and second down or in short-yardage situations.

Taking Peelle out of that equation and replacing him with Gonzalez puts the whole situation in an entirely different light. This could be the move that takes the Falcons offense to the next level.

Just look at the possibilities that open up for the Falcons offense with this single addition. There is no reason to believe the Falcons won’t be an even more potent scoring machine in 2009. Not only is Gonzalez dangerous on the underneath routes and the red zone, but he is also a threat on deep routes. Plus, being a great all-around tight end, the 10-time Pro Bowler is also a superior blocker who can help in the running game as well as in pass protection.

With Gonzalez, opposing linebackers and safeties will be forced to focus more attention on the middle of the field, no longer having the luxury of double teaming White on the outside without consequence. Now with defenders occupied with Gonzalez, there is likely to be single coverage downfield. White, the Falcons’ deep threat, is a big play waiting to happen.

If the defense plays their safeties in a two-deep zone to handle White and Falcons No. 2 wide receiver Michael Jenkins, then either Gonzalez eats them alive working the underneath or the gut of the defense is softened up for the 230-pound Turner to plow through. If the opposing team chooses to put eight or nine men on the line of scrimmage to stop Turner, options are then opened in the passing game.

If the defense chooses to blitz and attack the quarterback, Ryan can quickly dump the ball off to Gonzalez, Turner or Jerrious Norwood in the flats. It is a game of “pick your poison” for any defense that has to play Atlanta in 2009.

Fantasy football outlook Statistically, it’s Ryan who will reap the benefits more than anyone else with this new dimension to the Falcons offense. Ryan’s 3,400 yards passing and 16 touchdowns are only likely to spike in 2009.

There may be some concern that with the addition of Gonzalez the targets could be more thinly spread among the receivers, but don’t look for White’s numbers to go down. White has emerged as an elite wide receiver over the past few seasons, and the presence of Gonzalez is likely to solidify his chances of repeating if not improving upon White’s 2008 numbers. The addition of Gonzalez makes White more attractive than ever on draft day. He is considered a No. 1 fantasy wide receiver.

Jenkins, on the other hand, could be supplanted as the number two target in the Falcons passing game. Relegated to the third option behind White and Gonzalez, his numbers should drop. In 2008, Jenkins, a big possession-type receiver, (6-foot-4 215 pounds) caught 50 balls for 777 yards and three touchdowns but isn’t likely to match that in 2009.

Gonzalez the NFL’s all-time tight end leader in receptions, receiving yards, and touchdowns, will likely remain a No. 1 fantasy tight end in 2009.

Wideouts Harry Douglas and Brian Finneran present no fantasy value in 2009, barring an injury to one of the two starting receivers.

Wheras I like what this article is saying generally I do not necessarily agree with all the statements made. e.g. I think Michael Jenkins will have a pretty good year because he is bound to draw single coverage of the opposing teams weaker defenders as Roddy and Gonzo will have to draw the best defendes and or doble teams and this will allow Jenkins to be pretty open. All he has to do is run solid routes and we’ll be OK.. As the man says and if you read the gospel according to Ken chapter 9 verses 10 – 17, THIS OFFENSE IS GOING TO BE AWESOME!!!!

Go Falcons!!!!

Nuff respect everytime!!!

The heathen back deh pon de wall!!!! (Robert Nesta Marley)

Nookah

June 8th, 2009
11:51 am

Greetings!!!

Did you know?

Babs was 4th in the NFL in TFL’s w/ 9.5. Only Alex Brown(a DE), Clint Session(OLB), and Terrell Suggs(OLB) were ahead of him by a a TFL or so. Add in the fact he has had 23 TFL’s and 7 sacks in the last 3 seasons alone, and it makes you appreciate just how good this guy can be.
With more DT help he can be even more disruptive…and Lord help the NFL if Abe and Babs get help from the other DE spot………………

Got this from another Falcons blog.

Question: Will Babs continue his upward spiral? I think so….thoughts???

Go Falcons!!!!

Nuff respect everytime!!!!

Nookah

June 8th, 2009
12:00 pm

Greetings!!!! Feel no way, I’m just trying to make up for lost time!!! My schedule is tight these days so I have to make hay while the sun shines and up North here I mean that literally. Bigups to all Cagers!!!! Booyakah!!!!

Found this on Sam BAker. Interesting stats I thought.

That’s our own OT Sam Baker. I want you to project him. “Now wait just a darn minute, “He’s an offensive lineman. They don’t have stats to project!” This is true. As far as official league stats go, OTs generate two: Games Played (G) and Games Started (GS).

Baker started (GS) five games last year and played (G) in eight. As we all know, he decided to have surgery on the 29th of October to fix a herniated disc in his back. While Sam called it “minor surgery,” it still kept a talented OT off the field for weeks on end. Even though he returned and played downs in the final three games of the season, the impact and momentum he had during the first few games was lost.

Measuring Sam’s early impact on the team last season is essential in projecting how he’ll do with a (hopefully) healthy and full season ahead of him. Take the jump with me as I break down his impact. Then grab your crystal ball and do some projecting of your own in the comments.

To measure Baker’s impact, I looked at the play-by-play calls of the five games he started as the primary left tackle. I created three stats: Runs through LT, Run Yardage through LT, and LT Yardage Percentage (percent of LT run yards out of total run yards). Here’s the breakdown:

Opp Runs thru LT LT YD

LT YD %
Detroit 6 116 36.5%
Tampa Bay 3 15 14.3%
Kansas City 7 56 30.1%
Green Bay 4 19 10.8%
Chicago 7 33 44.0%

AVG Run thru LT: 5.4

AVG LT YD: 47.8

AVG LT YD %: 27.1%

Sam, a rookie OT, accounting for 27% of the run yardage in his five starts is somewhat phenomenal. He certainly proved he was worth the high draft pick. With Baker (fingers crossed) staying healthy this year, this stat should increase in the 2009 season.

angry banker

June 8th, 2009
12:44 pm

Nookah – uh yeah – Babs is a stud. a little small, but a huge commodity to have on the D-line. He’ll be a leader on that line for another 7 or 8 years.

Nookah(2)- Sam Baker is a phenom. However, I feel like hes going to be one of these injury plagued players. We’ve seen it in years past with Abe – great athlete, asset to your team, but constantly hurt. Remember, Baker had knee problems at USC that kept him out most of his junior year. Doesn’t mean we shouldn’t have him on the team, just means we need to give him more rest, like we do with Abe. I say we rent a veteran every couple of years to throw in at left tackle, or get someone like Ojinakka in there and keep a TE in to double team the DE.

Stirg d'Nahsif

June 8th, 2009
1:52 pm

Nookah, you on fire today, my Rastafarian brother. Very, very interesting reading. I compare the Falcon’s offensive options to the options of the Atlanta Hawks. If Joe Johnson had a bad day, Marvin Williams would pick up the slack. If Josh Smith’s offense is off, Al Horford’s game would pick up. That is very parallel to the Falcon’s options. If White is double-teamed, pass it to an open Gonzalez. If denfenses concentrate more on passing, Michael Turner runs for 200. If Turner can’t penetrate the middle, send Norwood ’round the end. I think this offense will be at the top of most offensive categories in the league. The one defense that can give us problems, is Pittsburgh, because of the versatility of their safeties and linebackers. Good post, Nookah.

Nookah

June 8th, 2009
2:35 pm

Greetings once again!!!

Stirg, nuff respect!!!! I am very excited about this upcoming season. However, I am not as excited about our offense as I am about the anticipated improvement in our defense. I think for the first time in a long time we have very good depth. If we have half the amount of improvement in our defense as we had in our offense last year we’ll perform pretty well and I think we have the ingredients to do so.

However, I came upon a different view about our defense on another blog. It shows how people can have different views on the same team. Here goes:

“The writing was on the wall for the departure of Michael Boley, who lost his job towards the end of the year, and the team had little intention of holding onto Keith Brooking. Instead of finding replacements for them in free agency or the draft, though, they wrapped Band-Aids on the problem with converted safety Coy Wire and former Jacksonville middle linebacker Mike Peterson, who will be 33 and hasn’t played outside since 2002. Those aren’t solutions. They’re prayers.”

How about that Cagers? I’m not sure how many Cagers share the same opinion. Personally I am not agreeing with this view. I am very excited about our defense and I think we’ll have a great year.

Go Falcons!!!!

Nuff respect everytime!!!!!!

Ken Strickland

June 8th, 2009
2:42 pm

UNCA BOB-While I didn’t write that excellent article, I’ve certainly made every point contained in that article at least once in the past. I mentioned how TD and Smitty came in last yr and cut or traded 6 starters, FS CCrocker, OLB DWilliams, TE ACrumpler, CB DHall, DT RColeman and RB WDunn(the last for were Probowlers), and we improved tremendously on both sides of the ball.

The same thing has been done this yr, with the release of starting DT GJackson, CB DFoxworth SS LMalloy, OLB’s MBoley, KBrookings and SS LMalloy. The last 2 are former Probowlers. We’re not just replacing them with younger more talented players, we’re replacing them with players who’s talents and abilities better fit our current OFF/DEF systems.

Having a talented player in a certain position isn’t nearly as important as having the right player that’s able to utilize his talents and abilities more effectively within the teams OFF/DEF system. We saw that become an issue with OLB’s DWilliams in 07 and MBoley, and even KBrooking, in 08.

The players that will fill their shoes are players our coaches have personally selected, or chosen to retain. This means they have qualities and abilities our coaching staff feels will better fit their OFF/DEF systems. RIGHT NOW, WE ARE BETTER THAN THE ARIZONA CARDINAL TEAM THAT DEFEATED US IN THE PLAYOFFS AND ADVANCED TO THE SB.

Looking at how strong and talented our 08 draft class is, and how much they’ll impact the team, especially the DEF, I’ve decided Falcon fans should give thanks to team that made it all possible, the Detroit Lions. because we owe them a debt of gratitude. Consider this. It’s obvious TE BPettigrew was the player TD and Smitty targeted at #24. But, when they realized Detroit wasn’t going to allow him to slip past them, we pulled the trigger on the TGonzalez trade.

Just think, if we had drafted TE BPettigrew, most of our picks could have changed, if not all. We could very easily have missed out on DE LSidbury or CB COwens, or even SS WMoore, depending on where in the draft we decided to address the DT position. As a result, instead of drafting the best TE in the draft, which meant missing out on the 2 best 4-3 DT’s in the draft, PJerry & EHood, we traded for the best TE in the world and got the best 4-3 DT in the draft, PJerry. THANK YOU DETROIT, THANK YOU, THANK YOU, AND THANK YOU AGAIN.

Here’s an interesting exercise that can keep this forum going for a while. We have 7 draftees and several FA’s that will compete for roster spots, and in some cases starting positions. Let’s get all of the info we can on each new player, as well as the incombents they’ll be competing against for starting positions, like SS/FS TDeCoud, DE JAnderson or OLB SNicholas. That way, we can determine who has the best chance of starting and/or making the 53 man roster.

Every week we’ll select a position, like TE, and research the players competing for those roster spots. After researching each player, each of us will present our projection of the final roster and see who comes closest to the actual roster after the final mandatory cuts are made. Since I brought it up, I’ll start off with the TE position. Although we know there won’t be any competition for the starting slot, there will be intense competition for the backup slots.

SO EVERYONE SHOULD START GATHERING INFO FROM SCOUTING REPORTS AND ARTICLES IN ORDER TO GET A READ ON EACH TE CURRENTLY ON THE ROSTER AND PRESENT IT TO THE FORUM. THEN, WE SEE IF WE CAN COME UP WITH A CONSENSUS ON WHO HAS THE BEST CHANCE AND/OR IS THE BEST FIT. WHEN WE’RE FINISHED, WE SHOULD HAVE A COMPLETED ROSTER ASSEMBLED THAT WE CAN BE COMPARED TO THE FINAL ROSTER.

GET READY, GET SET, GOOOOOOO!!!!!!!

Nookah

June 8th, 2009
2:44 pm

Yeah yeah!! It’s me again…….I know I’m on a roll today what can I say?

D3, did you see this? Found this on a another blog.

“The NFL’s five most anticipated games of the 2009 season. He’s back; yes, Falcons quarterback—you thought I was going to say Tom Brady—Matt Ryan begins his second year as the Falcons field general, in the hopes of not hitting the proverbial wall known as the “Sophomore Slump.”

Tom Brady makes his return under center to the Patriots starting lineup, after undergoing reconstructive surgery to an ACL injury that sidelined him for virtually all of 2008. This early in the season I can’t imagine Brady being in his form of perfection this soon out of surgery. Speaking from past experience, it takes a good year to fully recover from such an injury. The Falcons added some depth to their offense and defense through the draft and free agency, their most notable acquisition was free agent tight end Tony Gonzalez from Kansas City.

The Patriots have been pretty quiet all offseason; they did pick up a few free agents, but in usual New England fashion, everything is quiet and status quo. This game will be a classic AFC vs. NFC matchup, which with the caliber of personnel on both teams, should be an exciting game to the end.

My prediction is the Falcons will upset the Patriots in Foxborough by a narrow margin of no more than seven points.

Say it is so!!!!! I predicted 24-21 Falcons. Yes we can!!!….oh sorry I did not mean to be political, just excited about my Falcons!!!!

Go Falcons!!!

Nuff respect everytime!!!!!………THE PROCESS CONTINUES!!!!

Nookah

June 8th, 2009
2:58 pm

Yo, Posse, greetings!!!! Just found this posted by ESPN.com’s Pat Yasinskas – Food for thought!!!

We’re resuming our NFC South position rankings with defensive linemen.

I’m combining defensive ends and tackles into one big group, and as I’m looking at the rosters, I’m mildly surprised that this group isn’t stronger. That’s especially true at defensive tackle, but there’s hope here because I think young players like Atlanta’s Peria Jerry and New Orleans’ Sedrick Ellis can be very good, very soon.

The overall quality of defensive linemen in the division is a little down right now because Carolina and Tampa Bay don’t have the outstanding lines they once did. The ends are a little stronger than the tackles and can become even more so if some young players like Atlanta’s Jamaal Anderson, Carolina’s Everette Brown and Tampa Bay’s Gaines Adams emerge this year.

Anyway, here’s the list:

1.John Abraham, DE, Atlanta. Sure, go ahead and call him one-dimensional. But aren’t dominant pass-rush skills the dimension you want most from a defensive end?
2.Julius Peppers, DE, Carolina. Easily the division’s most-talented defensive lineman. But there are questions about his motivation and intensity with Peppers wanting out of Carolina. Those questions aren’t really new.
3.Jonathan Babineaux, DT, Atlanta. Very quietly, he’s become the most solid interior lineman in the division.
4.Will Smith, DE, New Orleans. No, he didn’t play to his potential last year and he’s facing a four-game suspension at the start of this season. But this guy plays the run well and has shown pass-rush skills in the past.
5.Sedrick Ellis, DT, New Orleans. Has the ability to unseat Babineaux as division’s top tackle and could do that very soon.
6.Gaines Adams, DE, Tampa Bay. You can argue that this ranking is way too high. But look at the rest of the division. Adams had 6.5 sacks last season. If he adds a couple of moves, he easily can reach double-digit sacks.
7.Peria Jerry, DT, Atlanta. He’s only a rookie, but there’s little bust factor with this guy. He should be a force right away.
8.Charles Johnson, DE, Carolina. We’re going to rank him ahead of the rookie Brown based on the promise Johnson showed last year. He had six sacks in a part-time role and has the potential to do big things.
9.Ma’ake Kemoeatu, DT, Carolina. He doesn’t do anything except take up space. But that’s his job.
10.Charles Grant, DE, New Orleans. Exact same story as his teammate Smith. But the guy does have a couple of double-digit sack years in his background and you never know what new coordinator Gregg Williams might be able to pull out of him.

Posted by ESPN.com’s Pat Yasinskas

NFC South position ratings – offensive linemen. We’re not breaking them into different positions, but are considering the premium placed on left tackles, the most important people on the offensive line.

1. Jordan Gross, Carolina. He finally got All-Pro recognition last year as the Panthers returned to coach John Fox’s ball-control offense.

2. Jeff Faine, Tampa Bay. A case can be made he’s the best center in the league. He’s also the leader of a very good offensive line.

3. Todd McClure, Atlanta. Go ahead and argue all you want about their underrated center. The Falcons ran the ball and protected rookie Matt Ryan very well last year. It had to start somewhere. It started with McClure.

4. Davin Joseph, Tampa Bay. The Bucs have been building the interior of their line for several seasons and it looks like they’ve got it right with Joseph and Faine.

5. Jammal Brown, New Orleans. Not as dominant as Gross, but he’s got the Pro Bowl on his resume and has kept Drew Brees standing.

6. Donald Penn, Tampa Bay. Fire away on this one. I know the rule of thumb is you get your left guard in the first round. Penn’s far from dominant, but so are a lot of tackles who were taken in the first round. He’s become a solid, reasonably-priced player at a key position.

7. Jeff Otah, Carolina. One single move allowed Fox to return to his ball-control system. That was drafting Otah, a natural mauler and placing him at right tackle.

8. Jahri Evans, New Orleans. This guy has started all 48 games in four years and almost never makes a mistake.

9. Sam Baker, Atlanta. His status as a left tackle taken in the first round is a little shaky because of injury problems last year. But, if Baker comes back healthy, he could be in the top five.

10. Travelle Wharton, Carolina. I’m giving Wharton a very slight nod of New Orleans guard Carl Nicks, who had a very nice rookie season. Another season like that and Nicks will move ahead. But I’m keeping Wharton right now for his versatility and heady play.

Go Falcons!!!

Nuff respect everytime!!!!

WR

June 8th, 2009
4:14 pm

Whats up cage, been off and on the pass couple of weeks, finally able to sit down and catch back up with the cage. Great posts have been going on in the cage as always, guess I might as well add my two cents. With all the talk of having Roddy White and Gonzalez with the 6′4 Jenkins on the other side I intially felt as Ken Strickland does as far as not being able to double team our number one receiver and our future hall of fame TE. After a further look and I hate to give away my fantasy gem, Harry Douglas really stands out to me. As a rookie Douglas preformed well in the slot, as the season went on he improved and started showing strong playmaking, if not game changing, ability. Now you have to consider that defenses will face a dilemma when trying to cover White and Gonzo, with Jenkins you have a 6′4 to 6′5 guy that is steadily gaining the confidence that made him a first round pick, which means that teams have to start considering either safety help or dropping a LB into coverage to help. Now add Douglas, teams are trying to figure out if they should roll coverage toward White and double up Gonzo or double both by dropping a backer in coverage while leaving one of the safeties to help on Jenkins, which leaves a lot of space across the middle and in the seams for Douglas to operate, and sense you all just happen to be Falcons fans you know already what Douglas can do with space. Don’t even get me started with the same lineup with Norwood in behind center and Ryan in the slot to come around for a possible flea fickler or Norwood designed run, if any of you have been around long enough to watch Mike Murlarkey work you know we should be in for a treat offensively this season.

JJ

June 8th, 2009
5:06 pm

Hey fanatics, i’ve been reading daily and counting the days to camp. You have redefined the term of “fan”! Allot of our fellow fanatics are in the military (jason) or have their own kids (seminolewarrior) in our military protecting our ass while we sleep comfy at home from harm. My weekly mmqf (peter king) has a nice say about our men/women in uniform that we all take for granted…sorry for length….


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Four weeks from Fourth of July weekend, I’m whistling a patriotic tune this morning, and alerting our men and women overseas that they’re about to have some interesting visitors. There’s more today — including my thoughts on Brett Favre (who is going to have his own network, Web site and galaxy before his career’s over). I’ve got Rodney Harrison as unplugged as he can get, the motivation of NFL Players Association executive director DeMaurice Smith, the eye-rolling in New Orleans over Jeremy Shockey and an update on your favorite college southpaw, Austin Wood, the Texas reliever who threw 13 shutout innings last week.

We’ll start by waving the flag.

In 1966, the USO began a tradition of sending NFL players and commissioners to visit American troops around the world by dispatching future Hall of Famers John Unitas, Sam Huff, Frank Gifford and Willie Davis to Vietnam. That’s probably the starriest lineup ever for a USO trip. But this year’s roster is in the same headline-grabbing ballpark — and I predict the speeches will be a little more colorful, with more neck veins popping.

Later this month, three Super Bowl-winning coaches from this decade — Tom Coughlin (Giants), Bill Cowher (Steelers) and Jon Gruden (Bucs) — will join one AFC Championship coach, Tennessee’s Jeff Fisher and the AFC Championship runnerup last year, Baltimore’s John Harbaugh, in traveling to the Persian Gulf to visit our troops.

“This is something I’ve wanted to do for years,” Coughlin told me, “and I can’t tell you how excited I am, and all the coaches are, to be making this trip. It’s a great chance for us to recognize the real heroes of this country. Our troops need to know how much we appreciate what they’re doing, and I mean every one of us in the NFL and every one of us in the country.”

Coughlin knows the trip will be as memorable for him as for anyone he visits. A military history buff, he is good friends with the current commanding general of the multi-national force in charge of the Iraq invasion, Gen. Raymond T. Odierno, a Giants fan. Coughlin also had a double-amputee Iraqi veteran, Lt. Col. Greg Gadson, speak to his team often during its Super Bowl run in 2008. In his coaching career, he has often incorporated military themes into his talks to his teams.

The Giants’ coach is not alone. You can bet all five coaches use war stories to motivate their men. For that reason, it’s going to be strange for them to be talking to military men about football players rather than the other way around.

“It’s going to be a challenge, figuring out what to say,” Coughlin said. “I’ve already started to write some things. But it’s important to me not to be off the cuff. This is too important for that. I want my words to mean something to them.

“One of the things I know I’ll talk about is how we talk about team all the time. I know they talk about team all the time. One of the things I’ve learned from Gen. Odierno is you realize how important it is to be able to trust the men and women next to you. You place your lives in their hands; they place their lives in your hands. And when Greg Gadson talked to our team, he talked about vigilance, about being ready. Always.

“That’s a fastball right down the middle for me. I’ve got to have everyone ready every day, because I don’t know when the next guy is going to be needed. In Greg’s case, he told us they worry about the soldier who didn’t fire his weapon in his last day on patrol. So maybe he figures he doesn’t need to clean it the next day to have it ready to fire, and when he needs it, maybe it doesn’t work properly. Just that one moment of not being ready could really cost the entire platoon. Same with us. You don’t want to be the man who is not prepared and lets down the entire team.”

You can bet Coughlin, at some base in Iraq or Afghanistan, will tell a room full of soldiers the story of David Tyree, the last receiver on the roster, who caught four passes in the first 18 games of the 2007 season, and then, because of injuries, stepped up to catch four in the Super Bowl upset of New England. Including the helmet catch, of course.

I hear the league didn’t have a difficult time persuading the time-challenged coaches (well, the retired ones have some time on their hands, of course) to clear their calendars for a week. Commissioner Roger Goodell went last July, and he’s been an outspoken advocate of not only what his trip did for the troops, but also what it did for him.

“Several things about the trip were very striking — how our service men and [women] never complain about anything, how much I admired them, and how much the NFL meant to them,” Goodell recalled last week. “You can never complain after seeing the conditions our troops work in. The positive attitude and pride they take in their mission and our country are inspiring. You go over there thinking you’re doing something for the troops, but you return recognizing it is one of the most meaningful things you have ever done for your own sake.”

Having gone to Kyrgyzstan and Afghanistan to visit troops 15 months ago, I can tell you Goodell’s right. Doesn’t matter what you feel about the war itself. You’re dropped into a National Geographic special, into the most interesting place you’ve ever been, and you realize right away how much these people love everything about the NFL. My advice to the five coaches: Get ready to sign 750 autographs a day, minimum, and pose for 300 pictures a day, minimum. Get ready to fall into an exhausted sleep every night and never get more than five hours of it, because there will always be more people to see and bases to visit. In the Persian Gulf, you’ll be like the Beatles were in New York in 1964 … without the shrieking girls.

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Thank you all for protecting us so we can discuss NFL!!!

Jimbo

June 8th, 2009
8:48 pm

How’s everything in the cage.
D3 – Took a little hiatus. I’m not like Sarah B. taking my laptop with me on vaca, the house CEO would crucify me if I even attempted that and you what they say, if Mama Ain’t happy . . .

I thought I’d take a stab at the 53 Man Roster. Now, of course, this would b eunder ideal conditions, no injuries or anythhing like that, just my Pipe Dream.

OFF
Depth Chart 1st

WR Michael Jenkins
TE Tony Gonzalez
LT Sam Baker
LG Justin Blalock
C Todd McClure
RG Harvey Dahl
RT Tyson Clabo
WR Roddy White

QB Matt Ryan
FB Ovie Mughelli
RB Michael Turner

Depth Chart 2nd

WR Brian Finneran
TE Ben Hartsock
LT Renardo Foster
LG Garrett Reynolds
C Alex Stepanovich
RG
RT Will Svitek
WR Harry Douglas

QB Chris Redmon
FB Jason Snelling
RB Jerious Norwood

Depth Chart 3rd

WR Aaron Kelly
TE Justin Peelle
WR Eric Weems

So, I see us keeping 6 WRs and 5 RBs. I like Weems and think he’ll make the squad, he’s a great gunner and I like his ST work. I think Finn comes back and amkes the team, he’s just too clutch in the 3rd and long situation, maybe a little old, but he still has mileage on the tires and they’ll be bringing him back. I think Thomas Brown, also for what he can bring to ST and it will be him on Jerious doing return duty.

DEF

Depth Chart 1st

LDE Jamaal Anderson
LDT Jonathan Babineaux
RDT Trey Lewis
RDE John Abraham

WLB Stephan Nicolas
MLB Curtis Lofton
SLB Mike Peterson

LC Vaughn Hutchins
RC Chris Houston

SS Thomas DeCoud
FS Eric Coleman

Depth Chart 2nd

LDE Chauncey Davis
LDT Vance Walker
RDT Peria Jerry
RDE Lawrence Sidbury

WLB Coy Wire
MLB Spencer Adkins
SLB Tony Gilbert

LC Chevis Jackson
RC Brent Grimes

SS Michael Moore
FS Jamaal Fudge

Depth Chart 3rd

LDE Kroy Biermann
CB Chris Owens
CB William Middleton

I like what Tony Gilbert brings to the table for ST. I think Middleton might be on the bubble and they could possibly keep David Irons because of his ST play, However, he was brought in under the old regime and if Middleton can compete on par with Irons on ST then I see him making the squad.

Jimbo

June 8th, 2009
9:03 pm

Professor Strickland, I just read your excellent post and that was an absolutely brilliant observation you make about the Lions. Sorry I jumped the gun on my last posting by posting my 53 man roster. I definitely would have held off and gone through the exercise you’ve recommended. It’s a great odea and will keep the Bird Cage active for quite a while. Should at least get us to page 4 anyway.

VICK SUPPORTER 2

June 8th, 2009
9:07 pm

FALCONS 8-8 IN ‘09

GO TEAM!

jason

June 8th, 2009
9:23 pm

Jimbo, I think you are selling Bierrman a little short. Sid is going to be a work in progress. He will be third team majority of the season. Could wreak havoc on ST, though. I will drop my roster in a little bit, and we can compare.

D3

June 8th, 2009
9:30 pm

Great Mon(dane) PM Gents and Gals! Rolling some good convo’s coming forward as we approach the 4 page mark. Hey, 300 posts in our “drought time” in little over a week is not too shabby. To Falconi’s and Football………

Nookah – what’s up my brotha from Molson-Land? You may have missed a few days, but boy did you come back witht the Fire! Nice work my man. Its funny you found that article, as I was just posting my analysis on our TE#3 Roster Spot. Justin Peele may have given us more of a threat than Hartsock, but that’s still not saying much. Our point total should blow through the roof now that DEF’s can’t key on Roddy and Burner.

Nookah(2) – a day ahead of us on the Roster Spot LT Analysis, but I love the enthusiasm of jumping into our O-Line. We should not only have studs up front, but also should have some serious competition for depth. The only question I have is: do we carry 9 OL on our active roster like last year, or do we carry 10 OL. Gotta love competition for BACKUP spots. The true sign our franchise is on a meteoric rise.

Stirg – how’s my D-Town bro’? Don’t know about the Hawks comparison. JK; I know where your going with it, but I hope we don’t underachieve like they do with their relative talent. Woodson is a big issue with that though. Anyway back to the Falcons: definitely love all the options we have on OFF, too many for defenses to contain. On a side note, how’s my UGA-boy Stafford getting received up there?

Nookah(3) – what nutjob did you get that blog from? The writing was on the wall for Boley because he TOTALLY DISAPPEARED! He was given the starters job by the new coaching staff based on what he had done the previous years and just didn’t earn it. He seems to be the only player that didn’t seem to “gel” with the new coaching staff. To me, it looks like he shys away from competition. Good Riddance, IMO. As far as his “Band-Aids” analogy, I guess he didn’t write that we addressed every other one of our DEF needs with 7 out of 8 draft picks. Teams can’t address every single need with one draft alone. Our “Band-Aid” Mike Peterson was benched for several games and still had 84 Tackles. He is a stop-gap, but we draft his replacement next year. Wouldn’t totally rule out Biermann or El Sid taking some snaps at SLB since we’re 5 deep at our DEnd position.

Ken Strick – as far as the roster spot analysis, I suppose you missed the schedule of talking about each position that we look to carry on our roster. We’ve discussed QB#1, QB#2, QB#3, RB#1, RB#2, RB#3, TE#1, TE#2, and I dropped an analysis on TE#3 today. If you want to re-do it, we can I suppose.

WR – where you been my fellow ‘Cager? Figured you were lying under an umbrella next to a sand castle with a Red Scripe(or 7) popped open. I’m glad you brought up the point about HD. He seriously balled out as rookie in the slot last year and made some great catches not only for first downs, but also some excellent runs after the catch. Never forget that catch he 3rd down catch he made against Carolina in a huge spot in the game and then raced another 30 yds down the sideline. And of course that beautiful punt return that put a death-nail in the Panthers. Opposing DEF’s may can contain Roddy, Jenks, TG, & maybe even Burner/Lightning on a miracle-day, but they can’t cover HD as well. Can’t F’n wait for Mularkey to work his magic with all these weapons. Yowsa!

JJ – great article. We talk about our heroes on the grid-iron, but our Vets are our TRUE HEROES!!! Its amazing what our Falcons are doing out in the community, checked it out on AtlantaFalcons.com and its pretty d@— cool.

More in a bit……….

jason

June 8th, 2009
9:31 pm

My 2009 Roster and depth chart:

QB) Ryan OL)Blalock
Shockly Clabo
JPW Dahl
RB) Turner Baker
Norwood McClure
Brown Romberg
FB) Mughelli Reynolds
Snelling Ojinnaka
TE) Gonzalez Svitek
Harstock
Peele
WR) White
Jenkins
HD
Finn
Weems

jason

June 8th, 2009
9:31 pm

Disregard post. Be Back in a few.

D3

June 8th, 2009
9:58 pm

Weekly Opponent Analysis – Game #5

Atlanta Falcons vs Chicago Bears
Sunday Night Football – PrimeTime in the TerrorDome

This should be a fun one to examine, analyze, and breakdown this week since we had the comeback of the year against them and their absolute obnoxious fans. I actually don’t mind the Bears as a team, but hate their fans. They take the boat over any of our NFC South Enemies, IMO. That might sound crazy, but that acted like complete jack@sses in the Dome last year. Love taunting those chumps on the way out the door. I’m all for enthusiasm, support, and even a little smack during games but those guys were out of control. Same goes for Cubs fans @ Turner Field. They Suck!

State of the Franchise – 2009 Chicago Bears

Record: 9-7-0, Finished 2nd in NFC North Division
NFL Season Summary
Scored 375 points (23.4/g), 14th of 32 in the NFL.
Allowed 350 points (21.9/g), 16th.
Differential of 25 points (1.6/g), 17th.
Takeaway/Giveaway Differential +5 (0.3/g), 8th.
Coached by Lovie Smith (9-7-0)

Last 5 Years
2004: 5-11
2005: 11-5
2006: 13-3
2007: 7-9
2008: 9-7

Key Additions: Jay Cutler, Orlando Pace, Kevin Jones
Key Losses: Kyle Orton, Mike Brown, Frank Omiyale, Marty Booker, Brandon Lloyd
Key Draftees: Jarron Gilbert, Jauquin Iglesias, DJ Moore, Marcus Freeman

Offense
Obviously the trade of the off-season included the Bears giving up the world to get Cutler. With what they gave up, their GM believes they can win now. Cutler is a stud(as we know from last year) and this looks to be one of the best match-ups of the year in the NFL. Adding Orlando Pace also adds to their toughness in the ground attack with stud RB Matt Forte. If their WRs can come up big such as rookie Iglesias, Devin Hester, Earl Bennett, and Rashied Davis, than they have all the makings of being one of the best OFF’s in the NFC couple with Greg Olsen. Big IF

Defense
They’re still one of the better DEF’s in the NFL, but the mystique has worn off. The group that led them to the Super Bowl has aged mightily and become severely injury-prone. The luster has been worn off some as we showed last year. Still good, but not great.

And on that note…………

51 DAYS AND COUNTING TO 2009 ATLANTA FALCONS TRAINING CAMP!!!!!!

D3

June 8th, 2009
10:00 pm

On to PAGE 4……………..

D3

June 8th, 2009
10:00 pm

Blog Monster was angry my friends………….

Weekly Opponent Analysis – Game #5

Atlanta Falcons vs Chicago Bears
Sunday Night Football – PrimeTime in the TerrorDome

This should be a fun one to examine, analyze, and breakdown this week since we had the comeback of the year against them and their absolute obnoxious fans. I actually don’t mind the Bears as a team, but hate their fans. They take the boat over any of our NFC South Enemies, IMO. That might sound crazy, but that acted like complete jack@sses in the Dome last year. Love taunting those chumps on the way out the door. I’m all for enthusiasm, support, and even a little smack during games but those guys were out of control. Same goes for Cubs fans @ Turner Field. They Suck!

State of the Franchise – 2009 Chicago Bears

Record: 9-7-0, Finished 2nd in NFC North Division
NFL Season Summary
Scored 375 points (23.4/g), 14th of 32 in the NFL.
Allowed 350 points (21.9/g), 16th.
Differential of 25 points (1.6/g), 17th.
Takeaway/Giveaway Differential +5 (0.3/g), 8th.
Coached by Lovie Smith (9-7-0)

Last 5 Years
2004: 5-11
2005: 11-5
2006: 13-3
2007: 7-9
2008: 9-7

Key Additions: Jay Cutler, Orlando Pace, Kevin Jones
Key Losses: Kyle Orton, Mike Brown, Frank Omiyale, Marty Booker, Brandon Lloyd
Key Draftees: Jarron Gilbert, Jauquin Iglesias, DJ Moore, Marcus Freeman

Offense
Obviously the trade of the off-season included the Bears giving up the world to get Cutler. With what they gave up, their GM believes they can win now. Cutler is a stud(as we know from last year) and this looks to be one of the best match-ups of the year in the NFL. Adding Orlando Pace also adds to their toughness in the ground attack with stud RB Matt Forte. If their WRs can come up big such as rookie Iglesias, Devin Hester, Earl Bennett, and Rashied Davis, than they have all the makings of being one of the best OFF’s in the NFC couple with Greg Olsen. Big IF

Defense
They’re still one of the better DEF’s in the NFL, but the mystique has worn off. The group that led them to the Super Bowl has aged mightily and become severely injury-prone. The luster has been worn off some as we showed last year. Still good, but not great.

And on that note…………

51 DAYS AND COUNTING TO 2009 ATLANTA FALCONS TRAINING CAMP!!!!!!

Jimbo

June 8th, 2009
10:01 pm

Jason,
I was looking at more from the perspective of Sidbury being the other speed rusher if Abraham takes a blow. I agree that Biermann may be a truer 2nd string DE but the point I was trying to maek is that I see the Falcons going with 5 DEs and 4 DTs, instead of the other way around.
It will be interesting to see how they approach things when they go into a 3-4 base because either Biermann and Sidbury would be nice options as the 4th LB.
I just can’t wait for this season to begin. I was telling a friend (who’s not a big football guy) before the draft that if we were able to get a good DT and a safety or corner that I saw the Falcons in the Super Bowl within the next 3 years. After the draft, we may make it within the next 2 years. It has never been this exciting to be a Falcons fan.

WR

June 8th, 2009
10:17 pm

D3, yeah I had a little down time finally, glad to be back in the cage though. I gotta agree with Jimbo, I can’t be like Sarah and take the laptop with me, although I did for my brief trip to Litchfield Beach, that was more of a quiet be by yourself type getaway though. Enough about the vacation, whats been going on in the cage, I see D-Led is taking a break also. I probably will not be on much tonight, but tomorrow I’m back in the cage hopefully until training camp, so let me know whats on tap and once again, glad to be back amongst the cage.

jason

June 8th, 2009
10:18 pm

Jimbo, I gotcha. Sid is going to be one hell of a talent. He will be versatile in bringing the speed rush from the outside in the 3-4. I totally agree with your defensive roster. A couple of the CBs could change or not. I see Middleton making the final cut over Irons. Two things, 1) Irons is injury preone. Has he ever been injury free in his young NFL career. 2) Middleton is a process piece. He is not a holdover.
Middleton has better skills to contribute on defense now and in the future; not just ST. However, I think the ability to excell in ST will be key to all the backup positions Offense and defense, hence Weems having the edge on offense as the 5th WR. Over all, great post. I am on your way of thinking.

jason

June 8th, 2009
10:20 pm

The Bears downfall during their “hayDay” was not having at least a mediocre Offense to go with that Deadly defense.

Stirg d'Nahsif

June 8th, 2009
10:38 pm

D3, Detroit is depressed; “…and that’s all I got to say about that” (Forrest Gump).

Interesting that you should ask about Stafford. They’re actually considering him to be under center earlier than expected. He’s showing some Ryan-like glimpses of a QB in OTAs. He’s also displaying leadership and his strong arm in deep passes. That’s not hard to do, though, when your receiver’s name is Calvin Johnson and he’s uncovered in non-contact drills. Still, Lion’s coaches are impressed. Ask me, I think they just don’t have any better QB on hand (not to belittle Stafford’s efforts). I just don’t see the support that would enable him to be successful like Ryan. Their running game does not have the one-two punch like a Turner/Norwood combo. Their line is not rookie-friendly and Stafford will have problems maturing when an A.P.B is unleashed with Abraham, Jerry, Babs and Anderson.

Uh Oh! I think I’ve just created the perfect slogan for our defensive line. Call an A.P.B.-All Points Bulletin (Abraham-Anderson. Peria. Babs). When its time for a needed pass rush (I would suspect Jerry would substitute for Lewis in obvious passing downs), lets call an A.P.B. (Anderson-Abraham Peria Babs) on the QB. What you think about that, Big Ray?

jason

June 8th, 2009
10:41 pm

Stirg d’Nahsif, A.P.B. NICE !!!

jason

June 8th, 2009
10:43 pm

AS great a player as Calvin Johnson is. With all his talents, and those of us that watch any kind of Georgia football knows. He will be a forgotten man in the NFL playing in Detroit. I say, play out that contract and go somewhere where your talents will be noticed. I hate Tech, but I know a great one when I see one.

Stirg d'Nahsif

June 8th, 2009
10:59 pm

jason, They’ll need a lot more than Georgia boys to save this city. Stafford, Johnson and myself (can’t sell my “self” short) will need the support to maximize our talents. Stafford will definitely need an effective RB and strong run support (they don’t have). Johnson will definitely need a TE (they got Pettigrew), RB and a second WR to draw double teams away from him. I will definitely need another Red Scripe… Be right back, fellows. Take ten.

Stirg d'Nahsif

June 9th, 2009
12:10 am

Back.

Can I go ‘head and enter this debate about Atlanta vs. Chicago game? Whew! What a game this will be. Primetime, payback opportunity, crispy air, bitter and sweet fans…all the pickings for a great game. Let’s not disregard Chicago’s capability, even though they’re changing QBs (a reason to have a losing season and prosper the next year). D3 posted Chicago’s record for the past five years. Now, I’m not a numbers person but something tells me that their record will ascend greater than last season’s 9-7 record. From 2004 to 2006, they progressed every single year. I’m not a betting man either but I’d like to bet that 2007 is when they changed coaches somewhere in the organization; because that is the year their record descended from Super Bowl contenders to a 7-9 record. (Let me check and see, brb).

Just like I thought. 2007, they didn’t resigh Ron Rivera, Wade Wilson or five other assistant coaches. They go to the Super Bowl the previous year and extend Lovie Smith’s contract but they lose Ron Rivera (he was good enough for us to strongly court him for our head coaching job. Remember that?), Tank Johnson, Thomas Jones and five assistant coaches.

Point being, it took Coach Smith just three years to go to the Super Bowl and the progressed every year. Their cycle shows me that this year will be better than last year’s record and we may have to meet them again in the playoffs.

As for right now, Chicago will be hungry for this game. They’ll come to play and, as D3 mentioned, fans will fight to defend their team. Their defense troubles me but they still have Bob Babich (he came with Smith; now he’s defenisve coordinator) and they still have key pieces that are immovable.

Atlanta will have their handsful; they better pack a lunch. Let me think about this some more before I enter my score.

Sarah B

June 9th, 2009
1:23 am

Hi guys, again nice posts. For those of you wondering… I am the CEO, CFO and Chairman of the Board in my household. Flying back in from Vegas tomorrow night and will resume regular posts at some time Wednesday. Nice Vaca BTW. Thanks for keeping me in the loop.

Sarah B

June 9th, 2009
1:28 am

And as for Da’ Bears game 24-21 and another shocker for all those Bears Fans that like to turn out in our house.

Sarah B

June 9th, 2009
1:29 am

Also, I 3rd the motion for A.P.B.

Stirg d'Nahsif

June 9th, 2009
8:57 am

Good Mornting! It seems that some of us may have gotten some needed rest lastnight. Me, Sarah and jason closed the club with that last call for alcohol.

Sarah and jason, so you like the idea of calling an A.P.B., huh. “Calling all cars; calling all cars…A.P.B. Be on the lookout for a QB carrying a football. Considered armed and dangerous. Wanted, dead or alive.” I think that has a nice ring to it too. Thanks.

I had a chance to give that ATL/CHI game some serious thought lastnight; and I still came up with a draw. I know, on paper, our players outweigh the entire organization, with the exception of head coaching (the man did make an appearence in the Super Bowl). I think once we get them on the football field, however, statistical comparisons will fly out the window. Chicago has the most exciting player in Devin Hester, according to our beloved Primetime Neon Deion Sanders. Their QB is so anxious to make Denver look like fools. There are just too many weapons on this team for me to just give it to Atlanta. I’m trying to be unbias here; but its hard…I hate CHi Town.

Push.

Unca' Bob

June 9th, 2009
9:13 am

Strig,

I paid a visit to Chicago’s Sun-Times & Tribune this morning and read up on what the general tone was. They seem to feel they have only one reciever and their backfield would not be too strong because of injuries. It was just my feeling and you know what that gets me into.

Stirg d'Nahsif

June 9th, 2009
9:31 am

Wooo! Unca’ Bob, that sounds like the Detroit Lions, to me (one receiver; weak backfield); And you know what that yields?

Interesting you should bring that up, though. I was catching up on OPP too. For you UGA pals, I found this on Stafford:

“Expectation: The Detroit Lions won’t sniff .500 this season.

Spoiler alert: New coach Jim Schwartz need only look south to Atlanta to see what a first-year head coach and rookie quarterback can do together. Winning doesn’t come easy in the NFL, but it can come quickly. The Lions can’t expect Matthew Stafford(notes) to mimic Matt Ryan(notes) or Flacco (Stafford has to beat out Daunte Culpepper(notes) first), but they can feel good about their future and their present.”

Unca' Bob

June 9th, 2009
9:37 am

Posted by ESPN.com’s Pat Yasinskas

Time for the linebackers in our series of NFC South position rankings. I’ve lumped the outside linebackers in with the middle linebackers.

Four of the top five are middle linebackers with Carolina’s Thomas Davis as the lone outside linebacker in the top five.

Jon Beason, Carolina. The best defensive player in the division.
Jonathan Vilma, New Orleans. Had a solid season last year, but should be much better with an improved defense around him.
Barrett Ruud, Tampa Bay. The only proven building block as the Bucs overhaul their once-great defense.
Thomas Davis, Carolina. Has emerged as a playmaker after a rocky start to his career.
Curtis Lofton, Atlanta. Stood out in the middle as a rookie and will be counted on as an every-down player this year.
Stephen Nicholas, Atlanta. I see this guy as one of the division’s breakout players this season.
Scott Fujita, New Orleans. Nothing fancy about him, but he does what the Saints ask.
Mike Peterson, Atlanta. Getting up there in age, but has something to prove after last year’s clash with Jack Del Rio in Jacksonville.
Angelo Crowell, Tampa Bay. Bucs went after this guy hard in free agency, so he must be in the plans.
Na’il Diggs, Carolina. Doesn’t stand out in any area, except he rarely makes mistakes and that’s why the Panthers keep bringing him back.

Ken Strickland

June 9th, 2009
5:53 pm

Fellow Birdcagers. I hope you can remember me saying how our DL, which has been our weakness over the last few seasons, will now be our strength. Well,I did a little extra research and found this bit of information on the subject.

According to ESPN’s Pat Yasinskas, who lists his top ten defensive linemen in the NFC South, it seems like a very long time since the Atlanta Falcons have boasted a dominant defensive line, but apparently those happy days are here once again. Three of his top team DEF linemen are Falcons.

#1 is DE John Abraham. First of all, awesome. Where Abe walks, civilazation ends. Can’t dispute that. I think he’s plenty capable against the run, but that’s overshadowed by the fact he just gobbles up QB’s. As long as he’s healthy and Julius Peppers doesn’t show up determined to grab a massive new contract, Abe’s the guy to beat. He more or less single-handedly took care of the Falcon pass rush last yr, so the fact that he might actually have some help this year makes this ranking all the more justified.

#3 is DT Jonathan Babineaux, who very quietly has become the most solid inerior lineman in the division. Babineaux was very, very solid last year, and he clearly deserved a new contract. I’m the last man to quibble with his success, and he’s the only clear starter on the interior comng into 2009. Still, I can’t help but think that the defensive tackle corps in this division has to have taken a bit of a nosedive for Babineaux to be considered the NFC South’s best. Here’s hoping that with Peria Jerry and Chauncey Davis hopefully joining him as starters, he’ll be free to author a few more big plays. If nothing else, he’s rock solid against both the pass and the run, and you can’t argue with that.

#7 is DT Peria Jerry. He’s only a rookie, but there’s little bust factor with this guy. He should be a force right away. It’s nice to hear the guy getting praise this early in the game, and his skillset as a penetrating defensive tackle with size suggests that he should fit right in this year. Injuries will be my biggest concern with Jerry, but it’s really much too early to say whether that’ll be a factor going forward. It’s also probably a little too early to include him in a top ten list, but I’m not going to argue. Flattery will get you everywhere, Pat Yasinskas.

Add in a hopefully motivated Jamaal Anderson and another solid end in Chauncey Davis and you’ve got a pretty good group of starters. Take that equation further and add in potential pass rush help in the form of Kroy Biermann and Lawrence Sidbury, plus a mammoth defensive tackle in Trey Lewis, and you’ve got a line that might actually shake up the image of a weak from four that doesn’t create enough push in the pass rush. Dominant might be too strong a word, but with so much attention on revamping linebacking corps and the heavy competition in the secondary, it’s nice to feel comfortable with the guys in the trenches.

It’s really nice to see someone else share my assessment of the potential of the Atlanta Falcons DL, especially someone so well respected and with outstanding credentials. If our DL measures up to that praise, imagine how much more effective our LB corp and secondary will be. With this yrs DEF, we could have gone to the Buperbowl with last yrs OFF. Imagine how much more powerful we’ll be with a vastly improved OFF and DEF.

Stirg d'Nahsif

June 9th, 2009
10:56 pm

Ken, go ahead and call an A.P.B. on opposing QBs. Its going to be that ugly. I already know that its going to be next to impossible for opposing defenses to hold our high-powered offense; now, I’m beginning to believe that opposing offenses won’t be able to contain our defense.

I can see it now: Chicago is at the twenty, with 3rd & long and they need a touchdown to tie the game (an extra point will win it). Its an obvious pass with four wideouts and our pass rushing unit is sent in to rush the QB. Then, the chants begin…71,228 fans start calling an A.P.B. (Abraham/Anderson, Peria and Babs). Its an uproar; the offense can’t even hear in the huddle. They trot to the line, confused. They set. They snap. Cutler drops back, with two and a half seconds, max, to get rid of the ball. Suddenly, a defenseman appears in the backfield and the QB is sacked. Its Jamaal Anderson, with his fourth sack of the game.

lol. Wishful thinking?

D3

June 9th, 2009
11:18 pm

Good Late Tuesday Evening ‘Cage Boys and Gals! Really slow goin’ today, myself included. I’ve been running like a crazy man these last couple of days. Evidently everyone else was busy as H— today as well. All good. I’m sure it’ll pick up steam as we move towards the weekend. Quick one tonight and to shut-eye……..

New Look DL – assuming Trey Lewis and PJerry can stay healthy, JA finally has the lightbulb switch on, CDavis competes for and wins a starting spot or earns significant snaps, Biermann continues his progression, El Sid makes some noise as a rook, then we could have the best DL in the NFC and maybe even the league. The amount of talent and depth we have compared to last year is pretty unbelievable. Simply due to his past, TLewis will have to show us he can stay healthy and Jerry worries me a touch, but I can’t wait to see our New DEF, as much as our OFF.

Stirg – you got it. I’m just glad we’re not playing them at Soldier Field. They will be gunning for us like crazy and it will be one of The Best Games of the Year in the ENTIRE NFL, IMHO. I like Chicago and their teams but HATE their fans.

Unca’ Bob – thanks for that article. Pat Yasinkas is the man on his analysis. Its finally good to notice someone understanding the potential of our starters that are ready to go, namely Stephen Nicholas and Peria Jerry.

Pushing Bears OFF vs Falcons DEF Match-ups until tomorrow and Roster Spot Analysis LT back a day. Too much goin’ on. Got some down time tomorrow. Have a great night fellow Bird-Cagers.

Ken Strickland

June 10th, 2009
3:02 pm

Consider what Chicago’s DEF has to contend with when they play the Falcons. Last season the Falcons had the #14 passing OFF, the #2 rushing OFF and the #6 OFF overall. Adding TE TGonzalez can make our passing OFF as dynamic as the Saints or the Colts, our rushing OFF much more effective than it was last yr, and our overall OFF almost unstoppable. The only way to stop our passing attack is to get to QB MRyan fast, and their front 4 isn’t going to be any better than last yrs.

When we played them in gm 6 last yr, it was before our bye week, which means our OFF was still very limited and almost totally run dependent. What does that mean? It means their vaunted DEF couldn’t contain a young inexperienced one dimensional OFF that was very run dependent, or stop it from scoring 22pts.

Does anyone think it will be easier for their DEF to stop an improved version of that same basic OFF, but with more experience, chemistry, the addition of the NFL’s best TE and a vastly expanded passing attack? The Bears have had dynamic OFF players, like WPayton, GSayers and WGalimore, but they’ve never had a dynamic OFF, especially passing OFF, no matter who their QB has been. The only way QB JCutler will change that is if he changes the organizations philosophy and they competely redesign their OFF. I don’t see that happening because the Bears organization is simply too steeped in tradition, and that tradition has always featured a conservative OFF and an agressive DEF, which has been their formula for success thoughout their existence.

Consider this. Of the Bears top 4 reception leaders, 2 were TE’s, one was a RB and only one, DHester, was a WR. That means their were a lot of short or checkoff passes. TE’s and RB’s don’t put a lot of pressure on CB’s, and none of their TE’s are threats to do much after the catch. No matter how accurate or strong armed QB JCutler is, he can’t make his TE’s run any faster, or his OL provide better protection. OT OPace will help, but signing an over the hill OT to be a starter only underscores how desperate they are to protect their QB. Remember, there’s a reason the pass happy Rams released him.

JJ

June 10th, 2009
6:13 pm

I guess a apology is in order, kinda, to my brothers/sis. We agree to not give “oxygen” to non-falcon bloggers who rant just for recognition. I’ve been reading “the other ajc sports blog..first mark, then jeff) and could not (well I could) help myself to enlighten some of our less enlighten atl citizens.

It may be a yr.OR 2 away, but this is it. This is (kiddo’s to coach k) the most talented falcon team EVER IN HISTORY. Next year…I shudder to think how td/smith improves us.

I’m sorry Barry, but WAKE UP THE NFL—THE FALCONS ARE HERE FOR THE LOMBARDI!!!!!!!!!!!!!

JJ

June 10th, 2009
6:16 pm

ATL-42 / CHI-21

JJ

June 10th, 2009
6:19 pm

kiddo’s vs. kudo’s–who’s the real idiot…yep..that be me!!!lol

crabapplejoe

June 10th, 2009
7:09 pm

Ken Strickland wrote: “Consider this. Of the Bears top 4 reception leaders, 2 were TE’s, one was a RB and only one, DHester, was a WR. That means their were a lot of short or checkoff passes.”

Really makes you wonder, with those kind of stats, why the Bears wouldn’t give Mike Hass a shot at WR. What would have been the downside? Hester is fast but can’t run routes and can’t catch, two attributes which are fairly important at the WR position. LOL at THE BEARS.

D3

June 10th, 2009
9:33 pm

Excellent Mid-Week Evening Bird-Cage Boys and Gals! Looks like our ‘Cage has grinded to a halt and the “drought” has finally taken hold. Well its summer and many of our brethren are taking physical and mental vaca’s as this is the deadest of dead time for Falcons and NFL Football. All good. Junkies like me and others will be here when you/they want to come back and talk some football. To our ‘Birds……..

Falcons DEF vs Bears OFF
Likely Match-ups

RDE-Jamaal Anderson vs LT-Orlando Pace
RDT-Peria Jerry vs LG-Josh Beekum
LDT-Jonathan Babineax vs RG-Robert Garza
LDE-John Abraham vs RT-Kevin Shaeffer
MLB-Curtis Lofton vs C-Olin Kreutz
SLB-Mike Peterson vs TE-Greg Olsen
WLB-Stephen Nicholas vs FB-Jason McKie
SS-Thomas DeCoud/William Moore vs RB-Matt Forte
FS-Erik Coleman vs QB-Jay Cutler
CB-Chris Houston vs WR-Devin Hester
CB-Chevis Jackson vs WR-Earl Bennett
Nickel-Brent Grimes vs WR-Rashied Davis

Rushing
Matt Forte is one of the best young RBs in the league, period. The guy had a pretty outstanding year as a rookie considering they stacked the box all time against him with no fear in the passing game. Matt Forte certainly did pretty well against us last year, but that was last year’s D-Line, not this year. As Ken noted, Pace was let go for a reason and is on the serious down-side of his career. The OL of the 2006 Super Bowl is not the same that will take the field in 2009. Greg Olsen is still waiting for his “breakout year” in passing but is an adequate blocker. The presence of Cutler at QB will soften the DEF the first couple of games, but until the WRs prove they can stretch the field and make plays, DEFs will crowd the box and blitz the H—- out of Cutler. Big Trey Lewis, Peria Jerry, Vance Walker, and JA look to make some big plays clogging the lanes and Curtis Lofton and Mike Peterson will be all over the field tracking Forte blowing past the aging line. Decent day running purely out of Cutler completing some passes and softening up our DEF. Forte 85 yards and 1 TD.

Passing
We certainly know how good Cutler is here in the ATL don’t we? Speaking of the Denver game, that was one of the worst games to witness all year. Our OFF played really well, Roddy drops a game winner, Matty Ice almost pulled a comeback, but that one was on the DEF. All we had to do was make one stop in the last 5 minutes and we win the game. Greg Olsen is adequate, but has never had “The Breakout” year everyone expected. Desmond Clark continues to be as much a threat as Olsen but is getting long in the tooth. And to the Receivers. Houston should remember to not to underestimate the Bears WRs, huh? Kyle Orton made us look silly last year with less than 2 minutes and the same no WRs as last year. I actually think they can make some noise this year. Remember how beleaguered our WR Corps was until Matty Ice got behind center? It will still be a struggle, but I think the Bears have the potential to have one of the better overall teams in the NFC. Erik Coleman will have his hands full with Cutler. DeCoud or Moore & Peterson should manage Olsen and Clark. Nicholas definitely should be fine with Forte or Jones out of the backfield. Even though our DEF took some hits against an Orton led OFF, this is not last years DEF. Houston, Jackson, Grimes, and Owens will be aggressive and force the WRs to beat us and they won’t. Abraham, JA, CDavis and Biermann should have career days, because we will be going after their @ss with our new aggression, speed, athleticism, and toughness. If this was 2008 DEF, we would get destroyed, but this is the New Look 2009 DEF: We will hold them to less than 200 yards passing and 1 passing TD. Cutler will spend a lot of time on his back. Our DEF shows up and holds them to 13 points!

More in a bit……….

Stirg d'Nahsif

June 10th, 2009
9:36 pm

A few weeks ago, we did the summary on the Miami/Atlanta game. I completed my summary by suggesting that Atlanta and Miami will meet again in the Super Bowl. I found an interesting article by Sporting News writer, Albert Breer. He questioned, “Dolphins, Ravens and Falcons: Can these successful ‘08 teams win again in ‘09?”:

Miami Dolphins

Reasons to believe: Miami aggressively addressed its primary issue—pass defense—by adding defensive backs Gibril Wilson, Vontae Davis and Sean Smith, and rushers Jason Taylor and Cameron Wake. Patrick Turner and Pat White, the club believes, are playmakers Miami needed offensively. And then there’s the grounded approach that Tony Sparano has instilled.

“The team is focused, the ‘year before’ won’t be a problem for us,” Ferguson said. “The hard part is we have to worry about everyone staying healthy. … As a vet, we really didn’t do anything last year anyway. We won the division. Big deal.”

Reasons to doubt: The Dolphins were 7-2 in games decided by less than a touchdown and had the league’s 27th-ranked schedule in 2008. They have the NFL’s toughest slate, by last season’s record at least, in ‘09.

And remember, the emergence of the option-based Wildcat package was a result of Miami not being explosive or consistent enough offensively, so questions remain—and likely will be answered in development of young players—on that side of the ball.

Atlanta Falcons

Reasons to believe: The addition of tight end Tony Gonzalez and maturation of young studs Matt Ryan, Sam Baker, Michael Turner and Roddy White means Atlanta should present as many problems to defenses as any offense in the NFL. And with GM Thomas Dimitroff’s philosophy of drafting leadership types, young’ins Ryan, Baker and Curtis Lofton are setting the tone.

“You can see, this is where those guys want to be—they’re excited, and there all so young,” Gonzalez said. “The sky’s the limit here. It’s a completely new enthusiasm.”

Reasons to doubt: Five pretty significant defensive contributors departed, and young players like Peria Jerry, William Moore, Chris Owens and Chevis Jackson will be counted on.

“There will be growing pains, like we had last year on offense,” Dimitroff said. “But I have the utmost confidence in our defensive staff, with Mike Smith and Brian Van Gorder.”

There’s also this: After playing the NFC North and AFC West last year, Atlanta draws the two East divisions.

D3

June 10th, 2009
10:16 pm

A Good Article from Chris Vivlamore of the AJC on Von Hutchins. Chris is certainly doing some fine work on these Falcons stories in DOL’s absence……..

FLOWERY BRANCH — Nearly one year later, Von Hutchins still is not the same.

But he’s getting closer every day.

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The Falcons’ defensive back was signed last offseason to be another veteran in the secondary, a nickel back to play ahead of, and teach, several young players. He didn’t make it past the first day of training camp.

Hutchins suffered a Lisfranc fracture when a defensive end stepped on his left foot during a drill. A day later he was put on injured reserve, and his season was over.

“It’s something that happens every day at practice, but this time it turned out to be something more than what I expected,” Hutchins said Wednesday after participating in Organized Team Activities [OTAs]. “Right off the top, I knew it was something I never felt before.”

A broken foot, no big deal right? But it was.

He had surgery to repair the bone, which included the insertion of screws, ligaments and tendons at the arch at the top middle of the foot where the bones that end with the toes originate. He was on crutches for four months, a walking boot for six months. As Hutchins put it, he couldn’t even wear two shoes for “a good amount of time.” He didn’t start walking on his own until January. He began light running in March.

The recovery has been nearly a year long. So, being able to take part in practice, just as of last week, is a big deal.

“I still don’t feel like my normal self,” Hutchins said. “I don’t have all my quickness, but that will come. I see progress. … The rest is going to come with time and a little more experience on the field.”

After signing a four-year, $9 million deal as a free agent, Hutchins missed an entire season for the first time in his five-year career. The only surgery he had before the injury was for the removal of bone spurs in his knee.

Hutchins said while he was away he reflected on his life away from football. He continued to work with the Lupus Foundation of America, as his mother suffers from the disease.

He admits the time away was difficult and the desire to return a motivator. Hutchins sought the advice of other NFL players who had suffered the Lisfranc injury — Keith Brooking, Dwight Freeney and Brandon Stokley. Hutchins stayed in touch with his teammates and continued to learn the Falcons’ system. He picked up game film, watched it and returned with questions.

“I got away from football to an extent, but this is my home, this is my life. This is how I support my family,” Hutchins said. “It brings along a hunger that I have to perform this year.”

All along, he worked with those young players — such as Chris Houston, Chevis Jackson and Thomas DeCoud. He’ll be counted on to continue that this season as he is now the second-most experienced player in the defensive backfield. Now, he gets to do so by playing alongside them.

“He’s still working his way back in slowly,” defensive backs coach Alvin Reynolds said. “He’s playing at nickel back trying to develop the depth at that position. He’s a guy that adds some veteran presence to us and provides some leadership. We need a guy like Von Hutchins, especially with all our young guys.”

Versatility might be Hutchins’ top quality. He can play cornerback and safety. He saw some time Wednesday at both.

“We see him as a guy that can help our team, whether it be at the corner, whether it be at the nickel, whether it be at the safety,” Reynolds said.

Hutchins said he plans to be ready for the start of training camp Aug. 1.

“It’s big for us because we envisioned him to be a contributor in the secondary when we signed him,” coach Mike Smith said.

It’s taking awhile, but that’s just what Hutchins intends to do.

Ed

June 11th, 2009
2:35 am

Fox Sports did a top 99 players list. Only one Falcon made it on defense:
92. John Abraham, DE, Atlanta Falcons: Abraham’s one of the more under-appreciated players of his generation. A beast originally at defensive end for the Jets, now with the Falcons, he’s the top defensive player for Mike Smith’s gangbusters Atlanta D. At 31, he recorded a career-high 16.5 sacks in 2008.

On offense the Falcons fared better:
56. Roddy White, WR, Atlanta Falcons: With Matt Ryan at the helm and Michael Turner in the backfield, White had a monster season in ‘08. Considered a “bust” during his first few years in the league, the former first-round pick has successfully shed the label with two big seasons in a row.
47. Tony Gonzalez, TE, Atlanta Falcons: At age 33, Gonzalez had one of his best years as a pro in ‘08, despite playing on a dismal team with a handful of unknowns rotating at quarterback. Now he goes to Atlanta, a team with a top quarterback, top running back, top wideout and serviceable offensive line. Forget the miles on his pedometer — Gonzalez could be in for his best year yet.
43. Matt Ryan, QB, Atlanta Falcons: Sophomore slump? Don’t expect one with this guy. Ryan has the city of Atlanta in the palm of his hand, and now Tony Gonzalez as the ultimate safety valve. High expectations for Matty Ice in ‘09. He should exceed them.
38. Michael Turner, RB, Atlanta Falcons: Turner “the Burner” burst on to the scene in ‘08, breaking out of former Chargers teammate LaDainian Tomlinson’s shadow and producing the better season of the two players. Turner’s the workhorse Atlanta hoped he’d be when they gave him his big contract in the offseason of 2008

Manning is #1; Brady #2 & Big Ben is #3

Unca' Bob

June 11th, 2009
9:01 am

Unca' Bob

June 11th, 2009
10:18 am

Norman A. Cochran

August 1st, 2009
8:40 am

Any player who refuses to abide by a legal contract as written should be sent out on a rail regardless how good he is. A contract is a contract and I am so sick and tired of Professional Athletes trying to hold teams hostage over a good year or two. They should prove over several years that they are for real. Athletes are paid too much money any way.

Norman A. Cochran

August 1st, 2009
8:42 am

Abraham deserves more than what he is getting but you don’t see him crying over it. He is man enough to stand to his agreement and then work on reaching an agreement for the amount that he deserves in the next contract. That is the Professional way of doing things!

Kathycgq

February 8th, 2010
4:08 pm

interesting read. I would love to follow you on twitter. By the way, did anyone know that some chinese hacker had hacked twitter yesterday again.

Innocent look

May 20th, 2010
7:44 pm

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