Look for a Post-June 1 move before blog-cation starts
While on blog-cation, we'll try to find the perfect Palm tree to sit up and watch the sunset.
Blog-cationville –- Hey y’all, things will slow down in the Bird Cage in June and through the early part of July.
We’ll pick it back up hot and heavy in Mid-July before the start of training camp. In the meantime, here’s a little video from last season I found that you can keep replaying.
Just a couple of things before we lower the lights for awhile.
THE RETURN OF GANDY?: The Falcons will likely add a veteran free agent shortly after June 1 to help on the offensive side of the ball. This makes sense because if they’d signed him before June 1, the signing would affect the number of compensatory picks they have coming in the 2010.
Not sure, who the veteran could be, but perhaps tackle Wayne Gandy gets re-signed. He wants to keep
Maybe Milloy (r) finds a new home after June 1st.
playing and the Falcons like him. Also, veterans like safety Rodney Harrison, who had been linked to the Falcons in the past, and Lawyer Milloy, may end up signing somewhere else.
ONE TOO MANY FACEBOOK FRIENDS: Was wondering why Quinn Ojinnaka was not at practice last Wednesday. When I asked coach Mike Smith, he said he knew where he was. Didn’t know that could mean he was in the lockup at the county jail. Wonder if he had a cell next to Otis, the town drunk.
Smitty must not have known where Quinn was for sure otherwise he would have told us. He probably just thought he was sleeping in late.
Ojinnaka, a fifth round pick in 2005 who’s played in 30 games and made seven starts, is a super guy. But he just may have cut himself. The Falcons have a very low tolerance for players appearing on the police blotter these days.
Grimes has a battle on his hands.
GRIMES BACK ON THE GRIND: Brent Grimes, the former undrafted free agent from Shippensburg State, is off to a good start over the offseason. He’s running first team, but will face a stiff challenge to keep his spot come training camp.
He’ll have to beat back Chevis Jackson, Von Hutchins and possibly rookie Chris Owens.
“He’s a more confident player, without a doubt,” Smith said. “He’s the most athletic player on our team. He has a lot more confidence this season in knowing our system and being around (defensive coordinator) Brian (VanGorder) and the defensive coaching staff.”
WIDE RECEIVER SPOT OPEN: With the trade of Laurent Robinson, there could be a roster spot open at the wide receiver position.
Former Georgia Force and Arena Football League star Troy Bergeron and undrafted rookie free agent Aaron Kelly of Clemson and Walton High are making strong offseason showings.
“Troy has done a nice job in terms of catching the football,” Smith said.
Kelly is not far behind.
“Aaron has a very good skill set,” Smith said. “He’s caught the ball extremely well. He’ll be a guy who’ll have
Troy Bergeron has been impressive.
an opportunity to compete. We’ve been pleased with his progress.”
It’s possible that Bergeron could make the roster and Kelly the practice squad. Bergeron’s practice squad time is up and the Arena League is on hiatus, so he has to make the roster.
It would not be wise to count out Eric Weems either. He played last season and has developed nicely.
Speaking of wideouts, NFC South foe Tampa Bay is checking on Plaxico Burress.
Before I stroll off to find one of those Umbrella drinks and a nice Palm tree, do you think re-signing Gandy would be a good move? Will you miss the Mighty Quinn if his facebook page gets him tossed? Do you think Grimes can win the starting spot? Who’s going to get Robinson’s wide receiver spot, Bergeron, Kelly or Weems?
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June 4th, 2009
10:39 am
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GO FALCONS!
Stirg d'Nahsif
June 4th, 2009
10:57 am
I’m not going to take the bait, D3. Nope; not going to do it. The last time I expressed myself, I was accused of snapping on my lil’ shawty (What’s up Sarah B?) and I almost blew a Ramen Noodles & Red Scripe engagement with WR & the Crew.
Nope…Hell No! “I’m not going to fall for the banana in the tailpipe”. I’ll save my Abe comments for him, during camp and pre-season. I figure I can rev him up and get him ready for regular season. You know, some people tend to play a little bit better when they here people talking about them. Matter of fact, I wonder if some of my past comments reached Abe. Is that why he suddenly decided to show up for OTA? I thought he was working out on a “self-maintenance” program? Suddenly, he shows up?
You know what? I said I wasn’t going to do this. I’m not going to do this. (rubbing the temples) Woo-Sah! Woo-Sah! Woo-Sah!
D3
June 4th, 2009
11:28 am
Stirg – love the “banana in the tailpipe” metaphor. Did you happen to get that from Beverly Hills Cop? Great stuff
Falcons DEF vs 49ers OFF
Running
Frank Gore is one of the best RB’s in the NFL. Period. Even though he can go stretches when he disappears, overall he’s one of the toughest runners in the game with game-breaking ability. He’s been able to do what he’s done with SF’s O-Line and lack of weapons up until last year. Nicholas, Peterson, and Lofton look to have their hands full with Gore; but Peterson’s leadership and Lofton/Nicholas’ athleticism should offset that. Their O-Line doesn’t scare me in the least. Our new look DL Rotation should have a field day on them getting hits, sacks, knockdowns, and pressures in the backfield. Abe & JA should have several sacks and Jerry/Babs/Lewis should be tearing up their interior line, especially. Vernon Davis is reaching bust status quick after being picked #6 overall in the draft a couple of years ago. He may be a decent blocker, but his pass skills aren’t jack(more on that in a minute). As with many games, we stop Gore and this one looks to get away from the niners quickly. Multiple sack game from our DL and LB corps.
Passing
Vernon Davis is reaching bust status very quickly. He had done pretty sub-par after being drafted so highly. Even with his size he is not much of a red-zone threat. He’s had several years of “breakout” years to no avail. Peterson and DeCoud/Moore will have no problem taking away this weapon. The WR’s finally had a pretty good year with Long-tooth Bruce having almost a 1,000 yd year. How much longer can he keep up that pace. Bryant Johnson is average and caught less than 500 yds with a handful of toucdowns. Michael Crabtree is the x-factor. I know he was very highly regarded, but personally I think he’s over-hyped from being in a conference with the worst Defenses in College Football. He very well may turn out to be a stud WR, but not this year. Houston handles Bruce, Jackson handles rookie Crabtree, and we shut them down. Still no long-term QB. Shaun Hill taking them to the promised land? I think not.
angry banker
June 4th, 2009
12:50 pm
crabapplejoe – good call on Welker. I was still living in Florida when he played for Miami – the kid did everything. Kick off and punt returns, was the leading reciever… everything he could – with Daman Huard throwing to him!! He reminds me alot of Tim Dwight from the Falcons run in the late 90s – only with better hands.
WR
June 4th, 2009
12:53 pm
Stirg, what happened to stirring thinks up in the cage, I can’t believe you didn’t take the bait, I guess I’ll take my scripes and Ramem noodles and just stay home.
Sarah, did you take the bathing suit because guess what, it wouldn’t be needed here, its raining once again, you would think as much as you talk about the rain you would at least have took it with you.
Ken, I get somewhat of what your talking about with Moss but I have to disagree with you on the coverages he faced during the Carter years and I also disagree with his decline being a result of Carter leaving. Carter himself has stated time and time again that the sky was the limit for Moss, he also made it well know that he was able to do alot because for the first time in his career he had a running mate who took the double coverages away from him. Now when considering both, Brad Johnson was the starting QB in 98 until he got hurt, Randall Cunningham came on had an unbelievable year and we all know how that ended. The next year Randall came back down to earth, Brad was eventually traded to Tampa and neither receiver blossomed without a decent starting QB. Eventually Carter retired and without a decent QB Moss became a sore spot for the team, he was traded to Oakland who also failed to have a decent QB and later to NE who may have the best QB and what happened. Your right Moss is not much of an over the middle type receiver, but if you watched the same Falcons games I watched last year you will notice that Roddy wasn’t doing the over the middle work much either, which made the acquistion of Tony Gonzalez important. White has excelled and hopefully he will continue to excel but Randy Moss didn’t pile up all the TD’s and yards over the yards just because he out ran or jumped people deep, if that was the case it would make a DC stupid or Moss superman. Good receivers need good receivers around them, the best receiver in my time has been Jerry Rice, but Jerry Rice always had good compliments around him and he had two hall of fame QBs throwing to him, so compare his stats to Moss stats and you can easily see that it takes a great receiver to accomplish what Moss has done.
jason
June 4th, 2009
12:55 pm
D3, Just found out the ZegonBock is only sold in Texas, But the Shiner’s are good also. There are like 8 different types, From dark to light brews.
I have seriously got to look at SF, and drop some analysis.
To respond to your post on the CBs. I agree with Grimes playing the slot. With his atheleticsm, he could keep up with a Welker type across the middle fighting through all the traffic. I am also still sold on Owens starting before the year is out. What TD said about watching him for 2 years has stuck with me. That was about as huge a compliment as the one Smitty gave Grimes regarding his atheleticsm.
Stirg d'Nahsif
June 4th, 2009
1:17 pm
Yeah, D3; that quote belongs to Axel Foley. Thanks
I’m with you on Frisco; however, I do believe that the x-factor will be Coach Singletary. He had half a season to gather a 53-man roster an establish cohesion. You know what, they stilled finished second, in a weak division, at 5-4. Let’s not forget, Singletary is a winner. Now, I don’t expect the 49er’s to beat the Birds but lets not underestimate their ability to win. I don’t see this game being tight but I don’t see it being a complete demolition either. Sure, the 49er’s weren’t great last year but they’re returning some key players that helped them to a 5-4 record under Singletary’s tenure. When you consider that and couple it with a running game and a sufficient quarterback, you end up looking like the early-90’s Falcons. You know the team that would lose against Raiders, Bengels and the Lions (games they should have won); then turn around and beat teams like Giants, Cowboys and Bears. Again, I don’t expect the 49er’s to win this game; but neither do I expect them to lie down. If Gore establishes his running game and gives our defense over a hundred yards, it’ll be a long day. We’ll definitely have to utilize our offense to play defense in this game. Here’s where my arguments for a good tight end (Pettigrew; Gonzalez) pays off.
Atlanta wins 21-14 and move to 3-1 for the season.
WR
June 4th, 2009
2:16 pm
I believe the birds get a tough run from a hard-nosed team still looking to establish its identity. San Fran is probably another year from showing a true Singletary type hand print, I think defensely they will be strong this year but the questions they have on offense beyond Frank Gore remain open to debate. Birds rebound from loss at NE to take the Niners 24-10.
Unca' Bob
June 4th, 2009
3:18 pm
Atlanta @ San Fransisco
Singletary is on track to rebuild both sides of the ball. Of 19 rookies on the roster, 9 play on the line. 3 of those are DT’s. Shaun Hill played in 9 games and put up some pretty good numbers. He had 62.8% passing with 13 TD’s and 8 picks. His QB rating was 87.5. If protracted thru an entire season they are similar to Ryan’s. They started off under Singletary 1-3, but ended the run 4-1. No cake walk here.
Atlanta 31 San Fran 17
jason
June 4th, 2009
4:46 pm
I would like to see Jackson covering Crabtree. That would be an excellent match up. I don’t see how SF wins this game. They are not good at all on offense. D is decent but not spetacular. SF is going to struggle until they get Singletary’s players in there. It is amazing that have been at least competible given the lack of talent on their team. Says alot about CMS’s job as a coach and a motivator. If I have to post a score, I would go with Unca’ Bob and 31-17 ATL. I think SF will be sloppy and unable to move the ball. With ATL coming off the bye, it really shouldn’t be that close. Look for Turner and Norwood to carry the ball close to 20 times each.
Dean 21
June 4th, 2009
8:22 pm
Hey Unca Bob, man I think you stole my thunder. I figured this score would be off a little since we were playing them out west, then I thought about the Green Bay & Oakland games and said okay with another year with the playbook and another year for Ryan, this is defintely reschable..anyways, here is my earlier post…
Dean21
June 3rd, 2009
10:33 pm
D3, It will not be a problem sir…I’m sure we will meet first at the Branch during Training Camp. Now I have to re-think my overall Falcons first 3 games again. Although I would love for us to be 4-0 after the 49ers game, it’s highly unlikely…so I will say we will be 2-1 heading into that game and come out 3-1….
Falcons 31-17
Dean 21
June 4th, 2009
8:23 pm
Jason, what’s going on man, any news? Do you think you will have an opportunity to join us at the Branch during training camp?
Dean 21
June 4th, 2009
8:25 pm
Well since the room is slow and like D3 states, it’s raining in the ATL…I’m going with the…
ORLANDO MAGIC!!
Dwight Howard is a GA boy, gotta show some support….
Dean 21
June 4th, 2009
8:31 pm
Stirg, my brother…this is time to do it…go ahead, take the bait! Maybe ole Abe will check out the cage and that will get him back to reality about football…nevertheless, it’s good banter between you 2
Ken Strickland
June 4th, 2009
8:32 pm
WR-I agree with CCarter’s assessment of RMoss. The sky has always been the limit for him. However, his unwillingness to work hard, take contact, expand his gm and become more than just a homerun threat has limited what he’s been able to accomplish. In other words, he’s been his own worst enemy and has limited his own development, as far as becoming a complete or primary WR. RWhite is a primary WR that can make a passing OFF good, while RMoss is a secondary WR that can make a good passing OFF better.
Here’s another way to make my point. Over the period covering 06-08 RWhite steadily improved, even though he played under 3 different HC’s and OFF coordinators, 3 OFF different OFF systems and 5 different starting QB’s over that period, including 3 in the same season(07). His REC’S: 06(30), 07(83) & 08(88), his YDS: 06(506), 07(1202, 08(1382), his AVG: 06(16.9), 07(14.5), 08(15.7) and TD’S: 06(0), 07(6), 08(7). Over the same 3yr period RMoss has been on 2 different teams, had 2 different HC’s and OFF coordinators, and 3 different QB’s. His REC’s: 06(42)Oakland, 07(98)& 08(69)Patriots, YDS:06(553), 07(1493), 08(1008)AVG: 06(13.2), 07(15.2) & 08(14.6) TD’s: 06(3), 07(23) & 08(11).
RMoss has been up and down, inconsistent, over that same period. Even with Oakland he wasn’t their best WR, as Ronald Curry had 62 receptions in 06. Even Welken, his sidekick over the last 2yrs in New England, has been more consistent and productive over the same 3yr period. He caught 67 in 06 with Miami, 112 in 07 and 111 in 08 with the Patriots. The overall production and consistency of one dimensional WR’s like RMoss are usually very dependent upon either the system they’re in or the QB, and you can see that with him. TRUST ME, WR RMOSS HAS NEVER LIVED UP TO HIS VAST TALENT, POTENTIAL OR HIS HYPE.
Sarah B
June 4th, 2009
8:56 pm
WR apparently I did bring a little rain with me. Some what overcast today and they are expecting some rain here in the desert on Saturday and I came to get away from the rain D@mn it!
Dean21 also pulling for the Magic as they eliminated LeBron and I just don’t like the Lakers.
JJ I was thinking of doing that very thing – no way we go 8-8 there is $$ to be had here on that.
Dean 21
June 4th, 2009
9:09 pm
Sarah B – I agree, not a kobe fan either! Well, you surely brought the rain with you…but it appears it raining in the east & west.
Did you have those seats last year? You are right above me. This is a first for me so I’m excited to join the fun at the dome! Everyone is telling me that Falcons landing is off the chain!
Well, I have the Falcons 3-1 after the San Fran game.
Sarah B
June 4th, 2009
9:21 pm
Dean21 we’ve been sitting in sec 342 since 2004 but had to start off in row 21 – shees talk about a hike! At the end of 2006 we put in to move down and ended up in row 6 which is the bomb. I’ll try not to drop anything over on you. And I agree about 3-1 I hate to say it but the Pats in NE well, we might not be quite ready for that yet. But I do welcome a 4-0 start don’t get me wrong on that. Yes Falcons Landing is a lot of fun. They have bands, games for the kiddies, cheerbabe signings for you guys, some older players usually sign autographs and then about 30 min before kickoff the official Falcons Drumline plays out there and they are great! And all the while you can drink you beer from home and noone cares! Which is great because once inside they are $7.50 but at least they are tallboys. I didn’t want you to get sticker shock upon arrival. We always carry at least 6 on the train.
jason
June 4th, 2009
9:46 pm
Dean 21, That would be too much luck for me. I am in the process right now. I have to go through a MEPs type of thing next Wed. If I sign then, it will be most likely AUG before I go anywhere. in AUG, I will have to go to OK for 2 weeks, then NM for four. Once that is done, I will be off to my new post somewhere around November. This really going to screw my football up this year. Will probably miss alot of Falcons and DAWGS games. I will have to be checking the Cage frequently to keep updated.
jason
June 4th, 2009
9:46 pm
Dean 21, Oh yeah, I am going to beg for Ft. Gordon. Either that or Germany.
WR
June 4th, 2009
10:42 pm
Ken, somehow we are getting crossed up on our opinions, White is an improving go to receiver that may someday surpass Moss as far as production and reliability. Comparing the two now based on where they are in their careers is unproductive. White is a 5th year pro thats only 27 years old, Moss is a 12th year pro who is 32, White has not reached his peak, Moss peak years have come and gone, meaning while continuing to be very productive he is on the downside of his career. When I say that you can’t put White in the same class as Moss its considering the work over a career, as good as Ryan was last year can you put him in a class with Brady and Peyton Manning,no,he’s not there yet, do I expect him to get there, yes, do I expect White to surpass the achievements of Moss,yes, 2 good years makes you a pro-bowler,2 good years doesn’t put you in the same class as a proven veteran when considering the work and achievements sustained over a career. Good Example, Terrell Davis was an awesome NFL running back, he helped to lead his team to two SuperBowl titles, but his career was cut short because of injuries and he is rarely mentioned as one of the all-time greats, same goes for Bo Jackson, who to this day no one has come close to his size,speed,and vision combination.
crabapplejoe
June 4th, 2009
10:58 pm
angry banker wrote: “crabapplejoe – good call on Welker. I was still living in Florida when he played for Miami – the kid did everything. Kick off and punt returns, was the leading reciever… everything he could – with Daman Huard throwing to him!!”
It really makes you wonder about the NFL’s true ability to scout and research talent. When the man who has caught more passes in the NFL in the last two years was not invited to the combines or drafted in 2004. Then he was cut by San Diego as an undrafted free agent. The rumor is that Nick Saban then wanted to cut Welker in favor of keeping Marcus Vick on the Dolphin’s roster. In the last four rounds of the 2004 draft there were 17 WRs drafted instead of Welker! Of those, eleven are gone from the league. Those seventeen receivers have a total of 920 receptions in the NFL….Welker has 319 all by his lonesome. The Falcons drafted the following players in the last four rounds instead of Welker: Demorrio Williams (LB); Chad Lavalais (DT); Etric Pruitt (S); Quincy Wilson (RB)…LOL. Its not like Welker had a bad college career at Texas Tech: 259 receptions, 3019 yard, 21 TDs; 79 rushes, 459 yards, 2 TDs; 8 TDs on punt returns to tie the NCAA record! I wonder what the NFL scouts did not like about him…..makes you go hmmmmmm. It also makes you wonder how many other “Wes Welkers” took a job selling life insurance after not being drafted and cut as a free agent.
Dean21
June 4th, 2009
11:45 pm
Sarah B – Now you surely have enlighted me, I appreciate the heads up and the brochure about the cheerbabes!
I’m sure I will enjoy all the festivities before and during the games. I have so many friends that come down early to set up for tailgating, i’m sure I will be exploring those options as well. So, have you hit the strip yet? You will have to close the lid on the laptop and get busy with the dices, slots, etc.
Yeah, I think we all would take 4-0 and be totally shocked at 1-4, so the Falcons had better be ready. Truly they should know that they are no longer a surprise team. They will be the hunted! We have to protect the terror-dome!
Jason – man dust your knees off and try again should it not go through.
Sorry to hear you will not be able to join us or any of the games, trust me when I say…the cage will keep you informed, so you will not miss much as long as you chime in brother. You gotta take care of you, so do what you gotta do man! We will send a toast to ya right before kick off on Sept. 13!!
Dean21
June 4th, 2009
11:47 pm
Well, game #1 is a wash! The Majic better get ready or this will be a very short series!
Sarah B
June 5th, 2009
12:20 am
Yeah Dean21 – they got killed. To tired today to go to the strip big time change and all. Just chilled by the pool with cocktails. I do gotta place that Falcon over/under bet though 8-8 my azz.
Sarah B
June 5th, 2009
12:42 am
Yeah Dean21, they got killed, oh well. To tired to go to the strip what with the time change and all but will defeinatly take time to put $$ on that 8-8 Over/Under what BS that is. Today I just chilled by the pool with cocktails.
Sarah B
June 5th, 2009
12:43 am
Blog monster is alive and well tonight!
Ken Strickland
June 5th, 2009
1:11 am
While our OFF is set, there will be some interesting and intense battles on the DEF side of the ball. While SS-TDeCoud, OLB’s-SNicholas, MPeterson and DE-JAnderson will be their positions to lose, CB and DT will have some serious and interesting battles.
LET’S HEAR WHO YOU THINK WILL REPLACE DT GJACKSON 1-PJERRY 2-TLEWIS AND CB DFOXWORTH 1-COWENS 2-BGRIMES 3-CJACKSON 4-VHUTCHINS.
Ed
June 5th, 2009
1:20 am
Here’s a report I picked up on the net
FLOWERY BRANCH, Ga. (AP)—Offensive guard Tyson Clabo(notes) signed his restricted free agent contract with the Atlanta Falcons after starting all 16 games for the first time in his career.
Clabo was part of an offensive line that helped the Falcons finish second in the NFL with an average of 152.7 yards per game.
In other roster moves, the Falcons signed undrafted free agent wide receiver Bradon Godfrey, who had 128 receptions during his college career at Utah, and released linebacker Brock Christopher
Stirg d'Nahsif
June 5th, 2009
2:20 am
Ken, Jackson will take the corner position and Grimes will man nickel and backup the starters. With all the talented competition at the corners, they’ll probably let take his time to learn the position. With the high risk of injury at that position, Owens may get a few start this season; lets hope not.
I didn’t think Jerry was big enough to start alongside Babs. I thought it would be either Lewis and Babs or Lewis and Jerry; but it looks like Jerry’s disruption is enough to consider him for a starting position. Besides, I don’t think Lewis’ knee can withstand a full season as a starter. Therefore, Jerry and Babs would be the best case scenario.
I beg to differ with the DeCoud start, though. I think William “Buzzard” Moore starts, eventually; at least, after the break.
D-Line:
Abraham
Jerry
Babineaux
Anderson
L-Backs
Peterson
Lofton
Nicholas
D-Backs
Houston
Jackson
Moore
Coleman
Stirg d'Nahsif
June 5th, 2009
2:29 am
Whew! I just read my last post and realized that, with my “mock” starting lineup, I’ve created a legitimate second string defense.
Our depth
D-Line
Davis
Lewis
Walker
Sidbury/Biermann
L-Backs
Wire
Gilbert
James
D-Backs
Grimes
Owens
DeCoud
Fudge
Wow! Now that is a championship team. Any team that can replace an injured player with a legitimate starter and not miss a beat, a championship team is created. Interesting.
Dean21
June 5th, 2009
2:59 am
Stirg my man, you just hit the jack pot regarding our defensive unit. I like both of those line ups! Talk about having depth at every position. TD knew what he was doing and has made us better across the board. If these new young rookies come in and learn the system and play at their potential, then I will say this again! The Falcons defense will surprise many teams! Now although teams do have film on our offense, but keep in mind we never showed the entire playbook because of Ryan rookie status, now with another year under his belt and Tony G. lining up, man watch out!!!!
Ken Strickland – I truly feel like Jerry will start in place of Grady and Trey Lewis will spell Jerry. As Stirg mentioned, we have quality back-ups in case of injury, etc. I also feel like Jackson will win the cornerback position unless owens is good as they say he is.
Unca' Bob
June 5th, 2009
7:45 am
http://www.ajc.com/sports/content/sports/falcons/stories//2009/05/31/dimitroff_falcons_draft.html
Unca' Bob
June 5th, 2009
8:17 am
Strig,
W Moore: On 5-30-09 at 6:01 PM D-Led posted a link to an interview he had with TD concerning our ‘09 draft picks. Page #1 on this blog. I have read TD’s comments about Moore several times, and each time I have come away with an uneasy feeling. It was, to me, like TD was trying to tip-toe around something. The sort of thing my Mom told me, like, if you don’t have anything nice to say…I hope I’m just over reacting. If you get the time, read it and tell me how you feel about it.
jason
June 5th, 2009
9:10 am
Ken Strickland, Good question. At DT lewis is the known quantity. Jerry the #1 round draft pick. I say Lewis starts along side Babs at the moment. ATL can afford to work Jerry in, in a heavy rotation with Walker, Babs, and Lewis. I say by the bye if Jerry is ready, he will start. By the end of the season he will be starting, and Lewis will sub to avoid injury and get the most bang for the buck; ala Abe last year.
At CB, it will be interesting. I say it doesn’t really matter. The rotation will also be heavy and fast. It will also be interchangable, like a match up from week to week. From the get go, I Houston and Jackson. Just because I like Jackson matching up with the opponet’s physical WR. I also see Grimes and Owens fighting it out for the nickel/slot WR. I think Grimes will excell here. Middleton in the dime.
Now, you noticed I didn’t mention Hutchins. If ATL only goes with 5 CBs, Hutchins is out of the mix. Missing all of last year due to injury really hurt. If they go 6 CBs, it is going to be interesting especially if Hutchins proves to be 100%. ATL is blessed to have 6 really good CBs, just no pure shutdown corner, yet.
On the subject of player’s jobs to lose. I don’t see DeCoud exactly losing a job. I think Moore will start over DeCoud because of DeCoud’s ability to play multiple positions. He can play both safety spots well. I can see almost a platoon like situation where Moore plays obvious run downs, and DeCoud on pass downs.
I am going to give Anderson to the bye week. It’s year 3 for him. time to step it up and show why he was a first round pick.
Nicholas should be ok at OLB. I think he gets thrown into the fire, staying on the field until he shows he can’t.
Peterson will play alot. He will be an onfield coach to prepare Lofton to be the leader of the defense. Plus he will still be a productive player making plays, something Brooking was unable to do last year.
jason
June 5th, 2009
9:14 am
Here’s mt question for the day. Do you think every pick will make this year’s roster?
Stirg d'Nahsif
June 5th, 2009
9:21 am
Unca’ Bob, I think I understand your concern. TD’s description of “Buzzard” Moore is in contrast between the days after the draft and the days after the mini-camp. The article that you made reference to is post mini-camp (after evaluating Moore’s abilities with NFL players). His evaluation sort of contradicts his description of Moore, immediately after the draft. After mini-camp, he describes Moore:
William Moore, S (Second round): “William is doing a nice job. He’s spending a lot of extra time with our secondary staff. He’s always trying to analyze what’s going on and trying to pick this system up. It’s not always easy to come in at the safety position as a first-year player, let alone as a rookie, and pick up the position in the NFL. He’s a physical presence. He will continue to refine his footwork and skills. We’re encouraged by what he’s done so far.
I found this post, entered by D.O.’better, after an interview with TD immediately after the draft. When D.O. asked TD about the second pick, TD offered this:
TD ON THE SAFETY SITUATION: Is it Moore, DeCoud and Fudge competing for the strong safety spot? “It will be up to Mike Smith. William is more of strong safety given his size and ability to come up and light up the ball carry. But he also has the range and he has more versatility than what was presented at the Senior Bowl. We really believe he has the ability to be in the deep part of the football field. There is some versatility there. We are happy to have Erik Coleman here with his veteran leadership and veteran status. He’s going to be a nice mentor for this young safety group. Thomas DeCoud, we are excited about his upside. We think he is going to continue to grow. He’s got nice speed and ability to cover the field. In my mind there are going to be three or four safeties on this team who can be legitimate contributors no matter who is called upon. ”
So, what you’re suggesting, Unca’ Bob, is that those sentiments have changed since evaluating Moore’s performance at NFL speed? I don’t know. Perhaps TD and Coach can see, first hand, why Moore’s stock was lowered enough, for us to grab him in the second. Maybe it wasn’t his injury that placed his ‘07 and ‘08 seasons in contrast with each other. Maybe we’re over-analyzing this and should exercise a little patience with his maturity into the NFL. Either way, we’re still set. My point was, we’ve established ourselves, defensively, to finally compete with quality players. When have we EVER had legitimate back-ups? When have we ever had a second string that can start for most teams?
Good observation, Unca’ Bob.
Unca' Bob
June 5th, 2009
9:58 am
Strig,
It did seem to me there was some back-pedaling. All the other players were talked about in glowing terms, pop, speed, blow up, etc. His phrasing for Moore was”extra time”, “foot work and skill”. Something about it did not ring true. I promise you, I would love to have misread it. I feel we are setting pretty with your current set of DB’s across the board. I like our progress, period.
SPS
June 5th, 2009
11:08 am
Totally off subject comment here. The AJC has posted yet another photo of Ryan getting ready to throw a football. It looks awful as always. The ball is way behind his head pointed straight up, and his left hand is in a waving-to-Mom position. From those photos you’d think he just got off the short bus and “throws like a girl”. LOL I never notice that while watching him at normal playing speed. His form looks good, he has a quick release, and always looks in command. Who is taking and posting these photos, Staff Photographer Joey Harrington?
Unca' Bob
June 5th, 2009
1:25 pm
FLOWERY BRANCH — With just one play Michael Jenkins quieted the naysayers.
It was the first game of the 2008 season and the Atlanta Falcons had a rookie quarterback, an unproven running back and several questions across the offensive line. Split left was another question in fifth-year receiver Jenkins, who was coming off his most productive season in 2007 with 53 receptions, but he still managed to accumulate only 503 yards.
Enter Matt Ryan, who surprised everyone watching when he launched the first pass of his career 62 yards for a touchdown. The play showed the NFL what Ryan was capable of, but it was the man on the other end of the pass that needed that play the most.
That man was Jenkins.
“It definitely jump started my season, and I think it jump started our whole team,” said Jenkins after Wednesday’s voluntary workout. “It obviously showed throughout the year, the way we performed and hopefully it’ll carry over to this year.”
No one hopes for that more than Jenkins, who caught 50 passes for three touchdowns and a career-high 777 yards in 2008.
“I gotta credit the offense and the way it flowed,” Jenkins said. “The way everybody was able to make plays and we were all able to get our share.”
With All-Pro wide receiver Roddy White on the other side of the field, and running back Michael Turner rushing for 1,699 yards, the Falcons finished 10th in the NFL with 24.4 points scored per game and sixth in total yards with 361.2. White, Ryan and Turner may have been the focal points of that offense, but Jenkins benefited the most from its success.
“You gotta pay attention to Roddy because he’s an All-Pro receiver,” Jenkins said. “Defenses are going to pay attention to him and that left a lot of one-on-one stuff on my end.”
In the past, Jenkins may have faulted in those types of situations, but last year he shined, and the former first-round pick that some labeled a bust, was finally able to show why the Falcons selected him with the 28th pick in the 2004 draft.
“You gotta take it with a grain of salt,” Jenkins said of the criticism he received after catching only 82 passes for 1,063 in his first three seasons. “There’s people out there that don’t really know the whole story, whatever they may think. But you gotta continue to press on and keep working hard and things will work out.”
He proved that during the Falcons’ 24-0 win against Oakland on Nov. 2 when the 26-year-old caught a season-high six passes for 64 yards and two touchdowns.
From that game on the former Ohio State star became a solid option on offense and recorded three or more receptions in seven of the final eight games of the year, including five in Atlanta’s 30-24 loss to Arizona in the first round of the NFC Playoffs.
But last year is in the past and Jenkins knows that his team still has plenty of work to do.
“We have to continue to be humble and not think that what happened last year is automatically going to happen this year,” he said. “We have to put the work in and hopefully have that success again.”
That work starts with the voluntary workouts, and even a 13-year veteran like newly acquired tight end Tony Gonzalez left impressed with how much focus and desire his new teammates are displaying.
“These guys want to be here,” Gonzalez said. “They’re hungry, they’re young, and they’re interested in their legacy and I’m excited to be a part of that. It gives me a renewed energy to compete.”
That should scare opposing defenses because now the Falcons have a hungry, future Hall of Fame tight end ready to contribute to their already potent offense of White, Ryan, Turner, Jerious Norwood and Jenkins.
“I can’t wait to see it,” Jenkins said of how dangerous the offense is. “I’m in it, but I can’t wait to see it myself. I think it’s gonna be a fun year.”
For Jenkins, he hopes the year will also be his best yet, one in which he can eclipse the 1,000-yard plateau for the first time in his career. There’s only one thing that he’ll take instead of a 1,000-yard year.
“A thousand yards would be a great personal goal, but the ultimate goal is to win a championship,” he said. “If we can get that and I don’t get 1,000, I’ll be a happy customer.”
So will anyone that ever doubted him.
Wabe
June 5th, 2009
3:34 pm
WILLIAM MOORE WILL BE A BEAST!
Honestly, I don’t think you can hang your head at T.D.’s 2nd round pick. Moore was projected to be a top 10 pick if he jumped after his junior season. Injuries plagued him in his senior season, and as a result, his draft stock fell.
He’s known to be a ball hawk, and has the physicality to get up to the line up scrimmage and light up the ball carrier, as T.D. said. If he’s truly as gifted as people say he is attacking the line and being a run-stopping safety, then I think within time, he will develop into one of the better safeties in the league. He will need time to adjust to the speed in the NFL, and his coverage abilities are definately a question mark at this point. BUT, I’M SYKED TO HAVE MOORE IN THE FALCONS SECONDARY!!!!!!
VICK SUPPORTER 2
June 5th, 2009
4:34 pm
8-8 IN ‘09
GO FALCONS!
D3
June 5th, 2009
4:39 pm
Great Friday Afternoon ‘Cage Brothers and Sisters! Meant to get in the ‘Cage last night but just ran into the “sleep” wall last night. As experts say when talking about running or biking races. Anyway, the Bird-Cage is rockin’ alive and well these days and I’m really stoked about it. Well, plenty of time to make up for it today, so let’s get to our ‘Birds…….
Crabapple – I second angry banker on props about Welker. He just kind of shot out of a cannon in Miami, went to the perfect system in NE, and is the absolute best complement to Moss giving the Pats the deep threat and great route-runner, middle of the field guy in Welker. Welker makes Moss better, not the other way around, IMO.
WR – where you been my bro’? Great point on Rice and the complements around him. The best receiver of all time for sure, but he had great weapons all around him. John Taylor was a stud in his own right and would have been the number one WR on any other team, Roger Craig is one of the biggest underrated RBs of all time(he redefined how versatile RBs could be), Tom Rathman was a stud FB who could catch out of the backfield, and the greatest QB of all time throwing the ball to him. I know them well as they were my favorite team growing up, besides the Falcons of course.
jason – finally saw ShinerBock on the shelf. Its next on my list to try. Having Grimes and C.Owens competing for the slot and losing candidate taking the dime-back really gives us a solid Defensive Backfield. Nice!
Stirg – great quote brother-man from D-Town. Love that movie, but that scene was absolute classic. That’s more like the score I look for; I think they’ll surprise some people but won’t take the next step until they resolve that QB situation.
Sarah B. – how’s Vegas-Land? Did you tie one on last night? I keep seeing the trailer for that movie “The Hangover” and think of you guys in Vegas. Any word from Reno? Gotta try the Falcons Landing as a tailgate station.
Ed – thanks for the update my man. Where you been? Bring back your excellent insights to the ‘Cage.
Strig(2) – wow, love that second D-rotation. As you or Ken noted a while back, that second rotation looks almost as good as our FIRST rotation last year. If we can get these rooks and new guys ready to play, the sky’s the limit.
Dean21 – If you organize the Bird-Cage gathering, your first brews on me. Keep up the great work.
jason(2) – great question. I’ll take that one and analyze in depth in a little bit. Should stimulate some good debate.
Unca’ Bob – great article pick-up my man. Love the fact that Michael Jenkins kept battling and finally had the year everyone was waiting for. I like the guys character and always knew he had mad skills. I’ve been a little critical in the past, but its amazing what nice thrown balls will do for receivers. I’ll never forget that one-handed catch he made against the Steelers at home a couple of years ago. With All-Around WR Roddy, Big-Tall Physical Move the Chains Jenks, & Speed Demon HD, we have a great, young WR corps. Not even including HOF’er TG. Top to Bottom, I think we have one of the best WR corps in the league.
Wabe – totally agree with you my man. When we were doing our Draft Analysis here in the Bird-Cage, I was initially against Moore due to his lack of productivity his senior year. But the more I looked at him and the fact that he was hurt his senior year and evidently played under a weak D-Coordinator, I thought he would be a great fit for us and bring that toughness and hard-hitting style to our DEF. Good stuff brother.
Tons more coming later. Analysis on jason’s roster question, Falcons OFF vs 49ers DEF, and one of these days the Roster Spot Analysis TE#3; the debates have been so good as of late, there’s been no need to supplement. Keep it rockin’ fellas!
jason
June 5th, 2009
5:30 pm
On the subject of Willwam Moore, I hope people don’t preset the high expectations. Remember, the NFL is a whole different kind of beast. There have been All-Americans, and Heismans shamed. William will be a fine and servicable Safety in the NFL. He may never be all pro. Might make a probowl, might not. But he will be a playmaker. Maybe TD reached with the second pick, maybe not. We will have to wait and find out. My opinion is that is was a bit of a reach. I think he will be good; just not measuring up against the picks in that area of the second round.
Question, with the nagging injuries he played with at Mizzou his senior year, is he 100%? if he is, is he in 100% football shape. That could go a ways into explaining slow progress he is showing. Then again, he may be a player that doesn’t light it up until the lights come on. You know, Game Time.
I see Moore playing obvious run downs with DeCoud playing obvious passing. At least at the onset of the season. Smitty will see how it all shakes out.
jason
June 5th, 2009
5:34 pm
D3, on the CBs… There is starter canidates everywhere. They are interchangable. Houston better not be slipping, or he will drop down the depth chart. We were debating a while back on Jackson starting or playing the nickel. You know I was leaning nickel. I have changed my mind. Jackson’s physical nature will work best against the opposing team’s phy. WR. Grimes being the most atheletic is perfect for the slot and having to fight through traffic. I still stand by my assertion that Owens will be starting before the year is over.
Big Ray
June 5th, 2009
5:58 pm
I wouldn’t worry about William Moore. He may not be picking everything up right away, and might be struggling with some other issues (footwork, etc). Dimitroff said he’s happy with his progress. He was in minicamp. He has a ways to go.
We complain about Jamal Anderson not putting up stats, but we’re also talking about YEAR 3. Moore has yet to play one snap in the NFL. Give him a minute. I think the guy is a playmaker, and he’ll be fine. Whether or not he’s a Pro Bowler is another conversation altogether.
The thing is, we didn’t pick him to be the immediate solution/replacement/starter at either safety spot. We have Coleman, who can play, and Decoud, who can also play, and has some experience under his belt now. Unless there are a rash of injuries at the spot, Moore will get his playing time in spurts, and get to study from the sideline and in practice.
I’m not worried about him.
falcon21
June 5th, 2009
6:48 pm
Right on Big Ray, Moore is a building block for the future but I still think he will get a lot of playing time this season. It may have been a small reach to get him but he was also too good to pass on.
Jimbo
June 5th, 2009
6:48 pm
Unca Bob,
I read your post regarding TDs comments on William Moore and I think you’re onto something there. However, I’m not that concerned. If it takes him a little longer to catch on, I think we don’t loose much with DeCoud. DeCoud is a player. So, why draft Moore then? I think what we’re seeing from TD and Smitty is bring in the competition and let them fight it out. So let’s let Moore develop at his own pace and bring him in if he wins the job. Having DeCoud as the starter is not a bad problem to have.
Ken Strickland
June 5th, 2009
6:52 pm
STIRG-do you realize your backup DEF is better overall than last yrs starting DEF.
JASON-I find it hard to believe we’ll go with only 5 CB’s considering DIrons, BGrimes and VHutchins are coming off season ending injuries. VHutchins is considered better suited as a cover 2 CB than a man to man specialist, but he’s also rated as an excellent nickel back, which might explain why we signed him last yr. Last yrs season ending injuries to VHutchins, BGrimes and DIrons made CJackson the nickel back by default. If he becomes the starter opposite CHouston, VHutchings might top the list for nickel back, since he has the most experience and is the most physical CB on the roster.
Someone mentioned that TLewis would likely get the starting nod because he was a known commodity. Well, his series of unjuries, limited experience and the extended time he’s spent rehabing actually makes him as much, if not more, of an unknown commodity than PJerry or VWalker.
On the issue of OT Ojinnaka, I don’t see him getting cut unless his personal issues with his wife are really serious. Don’t forget, LB MBoley and DT JBabineaux had simular personal issues and they weren’t sent packing. In fact, some individuals actually placed JBabineaux in the same category with M ick and vilified him accrodingly. Just think, if we had cut him, some other team would have benefited form him having a breakout season, and an already pourous DL would have been even more pourous.
Besides, we’re thin and inexperienced at OT to begin with, so I see him just laying low, keeping his mouth shut and allowing this whole thing to fade away like the Babineaux and Boley incidents eventually did.
THE ATLANTA FALCONS ARE BETTER THAN THEIR 09 SCHEDULE. TALENT WISE, WE’RE AS GOOD AS ANYONE IN THE NFL, ESPECIALLY ON OFF. EXPERIENCE IS THE ONLY THING THAT KEEPS US FROM BEING IN THE SAME CATEGORY AS THE ELITE TOP 4 TEAMS(the Steelers, Giants, Patriots & Colts). These 4 teams have dominated the SB over the last decade.
Dean 21
June 5th, 2009
6:57 pm
Big Ray – Excellent points but I would to pose a question on who should we be concerned with on this defense? Should it be Abe getting hurt? PJerry getting hurt or not performing? Trey Lewis healthy at what %?
Should CJackson get the starting nod, obviously it’s open for competent ion at this time. Will Babs have back to back good years? Is Nicholson ready to actually start every game now? You see, we could all have concerns, just what areas are they located.
I am concerned mostly that the new players come in and understand the process and the old players continue it. The first taste of success does not mean you have arrived. The Falcons still have quite always to go and I’m sure as most of our fans see it, we just wants wins baby!
Jason – I’m with you. I feel like Jackson should start with Grimes coming in on packages and Owens in the wings learning the system at best.
Okay D3, I’ll be waiting! I’m sure Sarah B and I will get the party in line when it’s time. So, what’s next? You ready to process the next game or next position player. It would be interesting to know what packages are being inputted for Tony G. I’m sure his impact will be felt early on and we all should anticipating high scores from this offense!