
See if you can find Falcons owner Arthur Blank? Minicamp was open to the public on Saturday. (CURTIS COMPTON/AJC)
FLOWERY BRANCH – The one lasting impression of the Falcons minicamp, was seeing Tony Gonzalez whizzing around the field like a youngster.
He appeared to catch everything thrown his way. On Sunday, he drove out to tip a pass that was too far in front of him. While falling to the ground, he caught the ball.
Offensive coordinator Mike Mularkey had him run a couple of vertical routes and it doesn’t look like the 33-year-old has lost a step. (Wonder if the Hawks have called the Falcons to see if he can suit up for Game 4 on Monday. Gonzalez also played hoops at California and went to the Sweet 16 with Jason Kidd and the crew back in the day.)
“He’s everything that I’ve seen for the last nine or 10 years,” Falcons head coach Mike Smith

Falcon fan Michael "STATS" Walling (42), of Dawsonville, was excited to see new tight end Tony Gonzalez. (CURTIS COMPTON/AJC)
said. “He’s the prototypical tight end. He can block. He can catch. He can run after the catch. He’s just a guy who’s going to make everybody on this team, offense and defense, better.
KICKING IT WITH THE BVG: Defensive coordinator Brian VanGorder is still the loudest coach on the field.
He’s got perhaps the toughest job, but has tons of help from his assistants and Smith. Molding at least five new starters into the unit is going something we’ll keep tabs on.
POSITION OUT IN
Strong safety Lawyer Milloy Thomas DeCoud
Cornerback Dominique Foxworth Brent Grimes
Weakside LB KeithBrooking Michael Peterson
Strongside LB Michael Boley Stephen Nicholas
Nose tackle Grady Jackson Trey Lewis
BVG thinks he has enough veterans to blend in some of the young talent.

John Abraham did not practice during mini-camp. The Falcons would not say if he a surgery or medical procedure. (CURTIS COMPTON/AJC)
He cited Erik Coleman, Michael Peterson, John Abraham and Chauncey Davis.
“We’ve got enough veteran leadership that can work out to be a great blend with the young players,” VanGorder said. “With young players . . . right now it’s kind of crucial to allow them to get comfortable.”
COMPETITION: Smith said don’t put too much stock into how the unit lined up in mini-camp. There will be plenty of competition for those starting spots. First round pick Peria Jerry could push Lewis. Chris Owens could push Grimes and William Moore could push DeCoud.
“They are competing for playing time,” VanGorder said. “That playing time could come in a lot of different forms. That doesn’t mean, just as a starter. Certainly a lot of guys are battling for starting positions. Some guys are trying to earn spots on the roster. Some guys are trying to get into the two-deep so that they can gain reps. There are a lot of dynamics involved in that.”
NO MATTER HOW IT GOES DOWN, THE DEFENSE WILL BE YOUNG: “We’re going to be young,

Trey Lews (97) had a minor scare on his first day back after two knee surgeries. He spent last season on injured reserve. (CURTIS COMPTON/AJC)
but I still think we’ve got a good mixture,” VanGorder said. “We have a number of guys going into their third year. We played with some rookies last year, who gained some valuable experience and should improve this year.
We’ve got a good formula set up.”
MULARKEY ON THE OFFENSE: Mularkey knows that with Gonazlez on board, teams will have trouble keying on one player.
There were games last season, when teams could sellout on stopping Michael Turner or Roddy White and shut the offense down.
“It will be hard to beat down on one guy with Tony in there,” Mularkey said. “It should help the run game with him in there.”
The theme for the offense is “Get Better.”
“We want to get better, everywhere,” Mularkey said.
THE ROOKIES: Made it a point to meet all of the rookie draft choices. Real nice and intelligent group. The Garrett Reynolds kid is huge. He’s the second biggest lineman next to Tyson Clabo. Was worried about the cornerbacks — Chris Owens and William Middleton — being to small. But one Falcon scout told me “as long as they can play.” And warned not to get caught up on their height. William Moore looks like a stud, now it will just be a matter of how fast will he pick up the defense.
Well, now that mini-camp is over, did you get your football fix? Learn anything new about the rookies? Worried about the defense still? Excited about the offense?
768 comments Add your comment
JJ
May 10th, 2009
3:10 pm
D-led: good info, who’s lining up in 2nd string offense – qb, rb?
DSS82
May 10th, 2009
3:17 pm
D-Led,
What kind of impression did you get from Sidbury?
Phoneguy
May 10th, 2009
3:23 pm
Yeah me too JJ. Wondering about Shockley as 2nd string, and Thomas Brown. Oh yeah Haynes too.
Phoneguy
May 10th, 2009
3:27 pm
The guys we picked up undrafted are pretty exciting too… Man Im pumped. I heard the Kelly kid from Clemson is thin but he’s a good player.
Paddy
May 10th, 2009
3:27 pm
The one thing that impressed me was the photo in this piece. You can see the enthusiasm not only in the fans but the players alike. To me that speaks volumns of what we are watching from our new Falcon leadership. Makes me proud to be a Falcon fan.
Leland
May 10th, 2009
3:40 pm
Dear Mr. DOL–winners never quit, quitters never win. Your pal, Leland
FranktheFalcon
May 10th, 2009
4:28 pm
I have got Falcon Fever!!! I am so excited to see an organization with the owner, general manager, head coach, and assistant coaches all on the same page! The Offense will be hell on wheels this year! The addition of Tony Gonzales just made us much harder to defend! Coach VanGorder has a big challenge in shaping the Defense and bringing the young guys around fast enough to do the job, but if anyone can, he will do it. Thomas Dimitroff, thank you for all that you have done for us in giving us a team that we can be proud of. You and your staff had to make some tough decisions regarding some of the veterans, including local fan favorites, but you made the tough calls, and in the near future our franchise will be better for it. GOOD JOB! You are building our team with character guys who have speed and that is the proper way to do it! Coach Smith is a great guy and a player’s coach and players in the NFL talk between the themselves and I expect us to get some great Free Agents in the next year or two, because they want to play for Coach Smith and his staff. Finally, Mr. Blank thank you for your leadership and creating a situation where all of your people can flourish!!! THE FUTURE LOOKS EXTREMELY BRIGHT FOR OUR FALCONS!!! Remember this: SUCCESS BREEDS SUCCESS!!! The Falcons schedule is extremely tough, but the Falcons will go 10-6, or better, and win 2 or more games in the playoffs!!!!!
D. Orlando Ledbetter
May 10th, 2009
4:33 pm
JJ: Redman and Norwood.
DSS82: Sidbury looks like a player. Hardest thing for him will be getting used to using his hands to keep linemen from getting into his chest, according to DL-coach Ray “Sugar Bear” Hamilton.
PHONEGUY: Kelly made some nice catches. Roddy White mentioned him by name. Also, Troy Bergeron was re-signed (yeah, just after getting cut).
PADDY: It was definitely an upbeat camp.
Nookah
May 10th, 2009
4:52 pm
FranktheFalcon, your respect is due. I could not have said it better myself. To Mr. Blank, Smitty, TD and the rest of the Falcon organization, as you have said on our behalf my brother, the process is in full flight!!!!
D Led, thanks for the info bro. We have a good thing going here. Falcon Nation is arising!!!!
D3 and the rest of the posse, where you at? I think we should have a “birthdate” for Falcon Nation and each year we have a special celebration. I know we are scattered far and wide but we can celebrate online, why not? What’s the feeling on this guys? The reason I propose this is that I think we are in the early stages of something quite special. I remember sometime this week or last week, Mike Wilbon on PTI referred to us as the worst sporting town. Currently, I can’t say I disagree totally. We sure have some fair weather fans in the ATL. However, what cures this ailment is consistent winning and the Falcons I think have created a solid foundation to win every year for a long time if we continue to follow the formula….it’s the process.
All the other franchises in ATL should follow the formula. (As I say that, I can’t help but think what Ric Sund will do this offseason). Anyway this is a football blog. Sorry I digressed.
The news on #88 is not surprising. After all we all know he’s the pros pro, future HOFamer. Ocho Sinco needs to send him that jacket he wore last year. He will create major mayhem for our opponents this year. Do I double him? Do I double Roddy? Do I put 8 or 9 in the box to stop Turner? …………..IT’S FEEDING TIME……..THE BIRDS OF PREY ARE OUT………..
And after we score we’ll turn it over to our offense on a Sunday evening and read the 11th COMMANDMENT…………….THOU SHALT NOT RUN!!!
Go Falcons!!!!
Nuff respect everytime!!!!!…………THE PROCESS CONTINUES…………..
I’ll repeat McFadden & Whitehead…………Ain’t no stopping us now, we’re on the move…………
Blake
May 10th, 2009
5:15 pm
Someone asked about Shockley being 2nd string? He’ll be cut before the regular season starts. Asked and answered.
Ed
May 10th, 2009
5:41 pm
I am sorry but you gave far more insight from your Detroit Lions visit. Hearing what coaches have to say doesn’t really tell us who stood out & who didn’t. Really disappointing…
Goldenglove002
May 10th, 2009
5:51 pm
Lawyer Milloy still hasn’t signed anywhere. Is he done or is it just that no one wants him? I would think that it might be a decent idea for the Falcons to pick him up f he’s not going anywhere and could be gotten for cheap.
falcon21
May 10th, 2009
5:52 pm
Shockley may be traded but wiii never be cut. Not a very good answer!
falcon21
May 10th, 2009
5:53 pm
Will never
falcon21
May 10th, 2009
5:55 pm
I’m not sure GG002 but I think he signed with someone.
Ken
May 10th, 2009
6:02 pm
I agree with Ed that we learned about as much about Detroit as we have learned from your reports of the Falcons mini-camp. I have learned virtually nothing about the new players in camp from your reports. Will you give us an overview of who did well, how they stack up and who looks like good additions?
jason
May 10th, 2009
6:08 pm
Blake, and why will he be cut ?
cutter
May 10th, 2009
6:34 pm
I just realized Shockley has been in the league since 2006 and has no stats at all. He’s in the last year of his contract has never touched the field so he might not get cut but if he doesn’t get on the field somehow to show his value it’s tough. Redman and Shockley are in the last year and you want your number 2 guy to have regular season experience. No one is gonna want to trade for a guy on the last year of his contract with no regular season experience who now requires more money because he’s considered a veteran.
cutter
May 10th, 2009
6:48 pm
Milloy has not signed with anyone and there are reports that he was a problem in the locker room for the Falcons so he won’t be back here.
cutter
May 10th, 2009
7:02 pm
FLOWERY BRANCH, GA – The Atlanta Falcons today signed free agent wide receiver Troy Bergeron. Bergeron participated in the Falcons mini-camp as tryout player this weekend.
WR
May 10th, 2009
7:16 pm
Ed and Ken, minicamp is basically like the NFL combine except players now know the teams they are playing for and they begin to learn the playbook. The best any sports writer could do is say such and such ran fast, blah blah is built like a brick sh*t house, so so can really catch, but none of it matters until they strap on the pads. Speed is useless if you don’t know how to play with it in pads, being built like a brick sh*t house doesn’t mean anything except you workout, most people on this blog can catch just running around in drills, but when a 250lb linebacker in full pads is running straight for you lets see how your hands will hold up. Point is, we all wanted to get a look at the new players and for the most part thats what D-Led provided, I’m thinking if it was flag football we would deserve a little more information but its not and I believe the true info will come out once the pads are put on. I guarantee depth charts are not set or even considered based on the results of minicamps.
falcon21
May 10th, 2009
7:17 pm
cutter I thought I had heard he signed with a team. He must have only been talking with a team , guess I was wrong. It’s not the first time! As for DJ, he has the talent to be a good QB, we have seen it before but that was at UGA. The NFL is a different animal. I think he can be a pretty good NFL QB but it is only my opinion. As you said experience means alot and it would not hurt if he had a little more.
JJ
May 10th, 2009
8:03 pm
Thank God we have this blog and the FILTERS in place. The filth of atl are back in force on MB blog. Guess who’s the topic?
Dont go there uncle bob!!!
crabapplejoe
May 10th, 2009
8:22 pm
Goldenglove002 wrote: “Lawyer Milloy still hasn’t signed anywhere. Is he done or is it just that no one wants him?”
You hit the nail on the head twice….he is done and nobody wants him. Did you watch the playoff game against the Cardinals? He won’t be back in Atlanta next year.
dacha
May 10th, 2009
8:47 pm
Excellent info, DOL, as always. What is the next event on our Falcon calendar to plan for? I don’t like to rush time, but I absolutely CANT WAIT for the season to start!
BTW, crabapplejoe: How is Brooking doing over there with the Cowboys? Keep us posted, man.
wxwax
May 10th, 2009
8:49 pm
When’s the last time folks were this excited about a rookie camp in Atlanta?
It’s so much fun to be here when something positive is finally happening to this team.
crabapplejoe
May 10th, 2009
8:56 pm
dacha wrote: “BTW, crabapplejoe: How is Brooking doing over there with the Cowboys? Keep us posted, man.”
Don’t know dude….not a Cowboys fan…you? In fact I hate the Cowboys. Not sure what Brooking has to do with Lawyer Milloy. One got picked up 36 hours into free agency and nobody wants the other…that’s all I know dude. You seem to have a problem with that…and I think I know why.
Stirg d'Nahsif
May 10th, 2009
9:08 pm
Suddenly, a surge in blog entries. What happened, fellows; the “House CEO” is finally satisfied with your efforts on Mother’s Day and you’ve put her to bed? I’m not picking. After a well-prepared dinner, my world famous foot massage and multiple glasses of wine, I haven’t heard a peep out of my CEO for four hours. Thought I would sneak out of the bedroom and check-in with my bretheren.
I was deeply concerned about Hip-Hip Peria today. I was so anxious to hear his medical report today, that I have bitten my nails down to the skin, until my finger is bleeding (gee, that hurts). Glad to know he’s going to be alright.
I was able to view the Flickr photos of the camp today. I can’t really tell much by still photos but we really looked good, as a unit, out there this weekend. I was particularly intrigued with Mike Peterson. He looks like he is taking control and I appreciate that (take notes, John Abraham).
Here’s my concern, though. D.O.’better, you continue to list Peterson as the weakside linebacker and Nicholas as the strongside linebacker. I know Smitty suggested that we not “put too much stock into how the unit lined up in mini-camp” but I think the competition at linebacker is for second and third strings. The first unit seems to be set with Peterson, Nicholas and Lofton (WILL). What contributed to the factors of suggesting that Nicholas can play strongside?
Let’s evaluate this. Michael Boley did not fare well at the strongside position, correct? If Nicholas played SAM before, why did Coy Wire replace Boley and not Nicholas? Furthermore, if Nicholas was not good enough to replace Boley for his performance, what has he done to suggest that he is good enough, now, to start?
I watched Nicholas come into the league; and I must admit, he was a monster at the weakside position. His move to strongside made him look like a third string linebacker for Tri-Cities High School, however; he looked absolutely lost. I’m not picking on Nicholas, by all means; again, I think he’s a beast at WILL. I just want to know what is the difference between his performance on the strong side, last year, and what’s expected of his performance on the same side (SAM), this year. My own hypothesis suggests that we cannot afford to not have the talent of Peterson and Nicholas on the field; but Peterson can not play SAM (or his greatest play is at WILL) and Nicholas pulled the shorter straw.
Help me out with this one.
braveshater
May 10th, 2009
9:17 pm
How in the world does Mike Jenkins get a contract extension before Roddy White. He’s a decent receiver, but not a game changer. I would like to know who has the edge at 2nd string QB. IM anxious to see D.J Shockley get some time on the field.
braveshater
May 10th, 2009
9:19 pm
I hope Brooking ets plenty of playing time for America’s team, that means they will suck!
falcon21
May 10th, 2009
9:24 pm
dacha, don’t take the bait man. By the way, what do you think of the Tony G. pick up?
Sarah B
May 10th, 2009
9:25 pm
Hi stirg – braveshater – funny stuff – I can’t believe the Cowboys picked up Brooking either – good luck with that….
Sarah B
May 10th, 2009
9:26 pm
He cost us the Arizona game…
crabapplejoe
May 10th, 2009
9:33 pm
Sarah B wrote: “He cost us the Arizona game…”
I assume you’re talking about “LawDawg” and you would be correct.
falcon21
May 10th, 2009
9:36 pm
Hello Sarah B, be careful because you are about to get into something that always turns ulgy!!!
Jimmy
May 10th, 2009
9:40 pm
Stirg,
You forgot to mention the ole “pickle tickle” when talking about satisfying the “House Warden(my term for CEO).” hahahaha
falcon21
May 10th, 2009
9:41 pm
Ugly!sorry
Unca' Bob
May 10th, 2009
9:47 pm
JJ,
Thanx for the warning but,in the words of an old Ray Stevens song where he says, Cover your eyes Mildred, it’s too late, I done already been mooned!! lol.
Stirg d'Nahsif
May 10th, 2009
9:52 pm
Hey, Sarah B. What’s going on? Did you enjoy your Day?
You made a statement that I’m going to have to debate about. You said that Keith Brooking “cost us the Arizona game…”. That may be true, my friend; but if Roddy White hadn’t drop a pass in the end zone against Denver, during regular season, we’d be 12-4 instead of 11-5. Which means, we would not have even been playing that day in Arizona.
We put a lot of blame on one person when the game takes a team effort. Fact is, a number of reasons factored into the loss in Arizona that day. Lawyer Milloy, Keith Brooking, Chris Houston, a lack of consistency at tight end, a poor pass rush, etc., etc., etc..
I think we blame Brooking because that was, as we remembered, the last play of the season. Still, I agree with you, though; good riddens.
Stirg d'Nahsif
May 10th, 2009
9:54 pm
Funny warning, falcon21…and I had to be the one to bite.
Stirg d'Nahsif
May 10th, 2009
9:56 pm
lol…”Pickle Tickle”. Now that’s funny.
Nookah
May 10th, 2009
9:56 pm
WR, you are right man, let’s not get too worked up about mini-camp. Just like the name “mock”, as in mock draft connotes exactly what it is, “mini” camp suggests exactly the same thing. It’s mini nothing major. Nothing too significant, just a way to take a first look at our rookies and get some of our vets loose and to get all team members together and start the chemistry thing.
I guess most of the crew has been paying the respect where it is due today and that’s to the mothers. That may explain the low traffic tonight. Anyway for all the mothers on this blog, nuff respect to you all and to all the fathers who had to “mother” kids, nuff respect to you too. After all the mothers have to “father” kids sometimes so why not the reverse?
Go Falcons!!!
Nuff respect everytime!!!!
Sarah B
May 10th, 2009
9:59 pm
Stirg – I was at that game and it happened right in front of me and it was almost an impossible catch, he was trying so hard to keep his feet in bounds it was riduculas. I had a great weekend. I talked to my Mom for 1/2 hr from Tampa.
I’m glad mini camp went so well.
falcon21
May 10th, 2009
10:01 pm
Stirg, it’s all well and good. That’s a good point about the the Roddy White drop!!!
crabapplejoe
May 10th, 2009
10:03 pm
@stirg: Good post if you had just left off the “good riddens (sic)” at the end. He is a future Falcon Ring of Honor member and five time pro-bowler for the Falcons… how about “good luck”. Here’s what I wrote on a “Talk About the Falcons” thread today regarding Mike Vick. The thread was started by some idiot talking about his dog taking a shit on a MV7 jersey:
“I’m with Gritzblitzer…can’t we just leave the man alone at this point…hope he’s learned from his stupid/criminal behaviour and let him move on with his life. Moderators, please just do away with this juvenile thread.”
And you will note that with KB56 we don’t even have to “hope he’s learned from his stupid/criminal behaviour”. KB56 performed well and with class in this organization for 11 years…don’t diss the dude.
richbrave
May 10th, 2009
10:10 pm
D ORLANDO:
You said SIDBURY “looks like a player.” In what ways?
D3
May 10th, 2009
10:14 pm
Great Sunday Evening Brothers and Sisters! Happy Mother’s Day to all of your mothers, grandmothers, daughters, granddaughters, aunts, sisters, and any other mother. Great to see a new blog posting about our mini-camp, we were struggling for updates for a long while there. To Falcons Football……..
TG – it still is pretty unbelievable that Gonzalez is wearing the Red and Black. I still don’t think it will sink until I see #88 walk out of the huddle. As Matt Ryan refers to him as the “Greatest Tight End of All-Time.” Sure thats up for debate, but he’s a lock as one of the greatest of all-time with no disputes. He will add so much to this team its unfathomable. Helping Matty Ice continue to develop, blocking for the Burner and Norwood, taking double teams off Roddy, helping young tight ends like Justin Peele and Keith Zinger develop, being a 3rd down conversion machine, being a red-zone scoring maching(one area we had a little trouble), allowing HD more room to run, and the list goes on and on. You get the feeling just from the outside that he is genuinely happy to be here. Welcome to the ATL TG!
Position Out-In – Understood on all parts except Brent Grimes. No knock against him, but where in the H—- is Chevis Jackson? Not even a slight, small mention of him competing for the CB job. Even go as far to say that Chris Owens will be competing for the job. Was that an honest mistake or do I need to know something about a guy many of us feel we’ll be counting on. Young doesn’t always mean worse due to experience. Milloy, Brooking, and Jackson were some of the most experienced players on the team, but that didn’t help them on the field when they were getting torched by Fitzgerald, beat on 3rd and long, or double out of the house and made to quit. Not hating on our former ‘Birds, just merely disputing that less experience is ALWAYS a bad thing. Boley pulled one of the best disappearing acts of all-time and Foxworth’s “experience” led him to be traded for a 7th rounder for godsake.
Competition – looks to be one of the best training camps for true competition battles at many positions in a long while. DeCoud will definitely have the edge over Moore simply because of the knowledge, but Moore appears to in good shape and moving well. I’ll be shocked if Peria Jerry doesn’t start from Day 1, and sorry to bring it up again but where is the mention of CHEVIS JACKSON? Chris Owens will be battling for Nickel spot at best and Dime spot at worst, IMHO.
Garret Reynolds – still think he has starter potential down the road and may be thrust in to some rotational duty to relieve Baker and Clabo.
As you all have come to expect from me, more to come later. Gotta go put my little wide receiver down for the night and put that Atlanta Falcons banner up in his nursery.
***AFTER OUR MINI-CAMP BUZZ HAS WORN OFF IN A COUPLE OF DAYS, WE’RE GOING TO DRIVE THE FOOTBALL MOJO IN THE BIRD-CAGE WITH WR’s SUGGESTION OF DOING A DIVISION-BY-DIVISION/TEAM BREAK DOWN. TAKE A DIFFERENT DIVISION EACH WEEK AND ANALYZE TEAMS THROUGH THE WEEK AND COME UP WITH A FINAL RECORD COMPETITION. MORE DETAILS TO FOLLOW. MAD PROPS TO WR for A MASTERFUL IDEA!!!!!
Stirg d'Nahsif
May 10th, 2009
10:16 pm
Ugh! Sarah, I would have thrown-up if I had witnessed that drop live. The moment I seen that, on T.V., I immediately said “that drop may have cost a trip to the Super Bowl.” Funny, how things work out.
Nookah, thanks for the Mother/Father’s Day greeting. I proudly accept. I’ve been a mother/father for a year and thirteen days now. Raising a baby from birth certainly changes my perspective about motherhood. Its a hell of a job; but just looking at him makes me smile. Get prepared, Falcon Fans; I’m raising the best defensive lineman in the Falcon’s draft class of 2033.
Sarah B
May 10th, 2009
10:22 pm
“pickle tickle” – stolen from A League of Their Own” Tom Hanks line – busted Jimmy – I guess as in Jimmy Dugan.
falcon21
May 10th, 2009
10:25 pm
D3, great post as always. Got to run, 5 o’clock comes early.
crabapplejoe
May 10th, 2009
10:29 pm
braveshater wrote: “I hope Brooking ets plenty of playing time for America’s team, that means they will suck!”
Dude, the Cowboys haven’t made the playoffs since before the millenium…I don’t think Brooking will be the difference either way…but, I know you’re hoping the Dallas fans will blame everything on him so he will feel at home. LOL
Sarah B
May 10th, 2009
10:30 pm
D3 – how’s it going with your WR HOF to come? Stirg – I was there and it happened right in front of me and it wasn’t all that painful as you would think – Roddy was trying as hard as he could to make sure his feet were in bounds and I was close enough to see the disappointment on his face when he dropped it. O f course I was still high from the Chicago game. What the hell was that great or what??
Sarah B
May 10th, 2009
10:48 pm
Stirg – where did you go?
willie
May 10th, 2009
10:49 pm
Holding my breath on this P. Jerry injury. I did not like hearing that it was the same knee that was operated on recently. Durability issues were the knock on him, much like last year with Sam Baker, and we saw how that went. We have to have P. Jerry healthy.
Old school fan
May 10th, 2009
10:55 pm
Sara B, will you marry me…lol
Stirg d'Nahsif
May 10th, 2009
10:58 pm
Uh-Oh! The CEO just woke up. Walked past me like I got another hour and two minutes before this Day is officially over. Got to go, fellows. If the pickle tickle thing works, I’ll be back in about thirty minutes. If not, hold it down in the cage.
In a minute…
Sarah B
May 10th, 2009
10:59 pm
Old school – I’m not in the marrying mood right as of right now as I’m recently divorced… But I’m game to hanging out. Nothing to do but yard work until August & training camp.
Old school fan
May 10th, 2009
11:04 pm
You go girl. I don’t always agree with you but, I love the love you have for my/our birds. I am the definition of long suffering. At last, I believe that is over. BRING ON THE SEASON. 11-5, Division champs, NFCCG.
Sarah B
May 10th, 2009
11:12 pm
Old school, I’ve been following the Falcons since I moved here in ‘87 from DET. I used to love games outside at AFCS. Back then I was a poor 20somthing and we snuck beer in in the sleeves of our coats tied in knots. What geart memories…
Sarah B
May 10th, 2009
11:13 pm
I also think 11-5 and playoffs and division WINNERS!!!
Unca' Bob
May 10th, 2009
11:27 pm
Strig,
In the year 2033 I will be sittin’ at a table with some buds, the Comish approaches the diaz and says, “In the first round, the Atlanta Falcons select Lil’ Strig”. I’ll nudge the bud next to me and say “I knew his Daddy”. Then, I’ll smile.
tyler
May 10th, 2009
11:47 pm
Thank you for the Falcon info D. Led. I am cheering for lewis. I think he has great potential. I am looking forward to Coach Smith and staff coaching this defense up. We have playmakers on defense; J. Abraham, C. Lofton, and C. Jackson,. Two from last years draft. Let’s hope we got two more.
WR
May 10th, 2009
11:49 pm
D3, just read your post and I wondered the same thing, where is Chevis. Nookah glad to have you back meant to say that the other day.
Note of the day, gentlemen I hope your doing a little more than pickle-tickling if not don’t hire a gardener. Had to say it though, Stirg is a cool cat and someone advises him to preform the pickle-tickle,Stirg you are old school so remember the old school, bump and grind will never fail you,but pickle-tickles may get you extra visits from the UPS man.
D3, with the insanely busy weekend I just had I lost track of what division we’re working on right now, I tried to go back over the posts but it seems like most people got caught up with the minicamp so its hard to tell where we left off.
WR
May 11th, 2009
12:04 am
As a lifelong Falcon fan, a fan through the good and bad, mostly bad, I was just wondering does anyone else feel a sense of,” it sounds to good to be true”. I’m not usually a pessimist but after so many years of ups and downs with the birds I feel nervous, I don’t believe in curses but if your a lifetime Falcon fan you can’t help but wonder is this really happening, is this team really this good. Do the Falcons actually have sensible leaders for their personnel department. People claim Atlanta is one of the worst sports towns in the Nation but I think those same people fail to realize that we get teased so much it kind of somewhat makes us numb, for a while you expected the Braves to make it to the playoffs and thats about it, back in the 80s you expected the hawks to make it to the playoffs and thats about it, now with the Hawks you’ll take what you can get, with the Falcons you just expected to be on a rollercoaster ride, you can never completely count them out but you can never put any real trust in them either. I hope last year begin an end to all that madness but I just can’t help but wonder if other fans feel the same way.
Sarah B
May 11th, 2009
12:04 am
I kinda like being the only girl in the cage… it’s great in here… love the updates from the mini camps… keep em’ coming
Boxcarar
May 11th, 2009
12:45 am
Sarah B.
I’m a little older, but remember going to AFC stadium with a few friends, sneaking in home made Tia Maria and coffee in a thermos watching the Birds vs. Saints in the rain. Upper level tickets became 40 yard line lower level seats.
D3
May 11th, 2009
12:46 am
DOL – hey brother, thanks for the updates. Good job as usual, especially know how busy you are. Did hope to get some information on any of the following: Chevis Jackson, Robert James, Lawrence Sidbury, Vance Walker, Aaron Kelly, Thomas Brown, Verron Haynes, J.Anderson, Coy Wire, and the backup QB position (2nd and 3rd). Sorry, being a little bit of a junkie, but the big one is Chevis Jackson; many of us assumed he would compete for the starting QB job.
Phoneguy – welcome to the Bird-Cage my friend. Definitely would’ve liked info. on a few more players. Roddy White mentioned Kelly by name, so he must have a good impression for that to occur.
Paddy – definitely agree with you that a picture says a thousand words. The enthusiasm and excitement is apparent from the players, not just the fans.
Frank – great point that is often overlooked, which is Blank finally got it right by stepping back, hiring the right guy, and giving them everything they need to succeed. Love those photos of Blank going around shaking all the players hands. Its a genuine sign of appreciation to everyone involved in the organization.
Nookah – I’m all for a “Falcons Celebration Date”. Wish there was a way for all of us to get together and have a ’scripe. Maybe we could pick a game or date.
To bed peeps, mucho more tomorrow. Have a good night!……..
Ken Strickland
May 11th, 2009
12:50 am
QB DJ Shockey has value because of his arm, mobility, running ability and the NFL’s facination with the new Wildcat OFF, which he’s perfect for. Prior to this weekend, none of the QB’s drafted this yr had set foot on an NFL football field for a single practice, minicamp, preseason or regular season gm. Shockey’s practice, minicamp and preseason experience gives him more experience and value than a lot of the QB’s drafted in the 2nd rd on.
Last yr there were 4 players that ended up as DEF starters by default, DT GJackson, SS LMalloy, OLB CWire and CB BGrimes. This yr there will be 3 incumbents and one new addition that won’t have to battle to retain their starting positions. The incombents are DE JAbraham, MLB CLofton and FS EColeman, and the new addition is OLB MPeterson.
jason
May 11th, 2009
7:48 am
D3, Ken, Anyone out there, I have a comment and qusetion on Norwood. I know we have Turner the Burnerat RB, and he can carry the rock for eternity. What can we expect from Norwood this year. In your opinions. I really like Norwood alot. Great talent, Tremendos speed. But whether, fragile (injry prone) or inconsistent; he seems to disapear alot at times. Every HC or OC that has come through ATL during his time says we have to get Norwood on the field, Have to get him touches. SO, what do you gys think? Am I being to harsh, to critical? He could provide alot to the offense. Use different formations, put him in the slot. Go 2 back in the shotgun with him and Turner in there, etc. JUst some thoughts and ramblings on a monday A.M. at work.
Stirg d'Nahsif
May 11th, 2009
8:32 am
jason, in this era of NFL football, it is essential for teams to carry a two-headed monster in the backfield. We have long past the days of William Andrews, Gerald Riggs, Tony Dorsett (hate to mention the enemy), Earl Campbell and “Sweetness” (you’re not a football fan, if you don’t know “Sweetness”). Those days where a running back can single-handedly play a whole game, are lone gone; football gods don’t make them anymore.
As you mentioned before, Norwood is a great talent and has tremendous speed; but, you also mentioned, he is injury proned. I’m afraid that if he touches the ball more than twenty times a game, he will stay in the infirmary.
Remember, “scheme”. There are some plays, according to defensive set-ups, that will require a swift, slashy speedster like Norwood, to hit the corners, to take backs out of play, to run the seams or to simply give our feature back a rest. Then, there are plays that would require a bone-crushing bruiser, like “The Burner”, that can light up a defense and keep them honest.
I, too, wanted Norwood to get more touches than he did during his early tenure with the club. Scheme will disallow that, however; and Turner’s ability to withstand the attack of 250lbs.+ men, all game, will limit Norwood’s minutes.
I’m now satisfied with Norwood’s touches, partly because of the arrival of “The Burner”. He didn’t have the luxury of his coworker taking the load of work, when he was backing up Warrick “Done”. Trust me, if you put Norwood on any other team and make him THE feature back, he won’t last two quarters. The staff in Falcon football are very keen and know how to limit his touches, to keep him healthy.
Stirg d'Nahsif
May 11th, 2009
8:34 am
Thanks, jason. I was sitting here in class trying to figure out how to wake up my day. Answering your concern was like a B-12 vitamin for me. I can put that ‘nac back!
jason
May 11th, 2009
8:37 am
Stirg d’Nahsif, I’m not saying thay he should be a feature back. Turner is the man. Just that I expected he would have provided more to the offense. Seems that when he is healthy enough, he can take to the house in a hurry. I’m selfish, I would like to see Snelling with more carries also. I am a run first type of guy. Run the the ball and stop the run. That simple.
jason
May 11th, 2009
8:39 am
I am going to get in trouble here, but my 3 all-time favorite RBs are as follows. William Andrews, Walter Payton, and Tony Doreset. I remember “Sweetness” when he broke the rushing record at old Soldier Field.
Unca' Bob
May 11th, 2009
8:57 am
Jason,
J Norwood came to be a Falcon in ‘06. His carries have been about, on average, 100 per game. His YPC dropped to 5.2 last year, witch by anyones standard is very good. I feel Coach Smith & Co. will cut back on Turners carries. Tony G will help a lot to take pressure off Turner. Norwood will get not only more carries but more receptions this season.
jason
May 11th, 2009
9:03 am
I can only imagine the possibilities for this offense. ATL has playmakers, and are building some unbelievable depth also.
spectator
May 11th, 2009
9:49 am
Here we go again…another year of uga fans talking about Shockley and wondering if he will be 2nd string for the birds. You people need to get over it. Shockley has never shown anything to indicate that he can play in the NFL and has been nothing more than the “token”dog on the Falcons roster. Did the Falcons bring in J.P. Wilson just to play in pre-season games? My guess is he will be this years #3, backing up Redmon, the become the Falcons # 2 the following year. Shockley will be released (there is no trade value)and won’t be picked up by anyone else. The Falcons can keep somebody like T. Brown as the dog “token”; he might at least be able to do something like run back a kick-off.
BigTimeFalconFan
May 11th, 2009
10:19 am
Oh boy, The NFC South is going to be wild this year.
Key will be D-Line getting pressure in QB’s, If we can give Abe’s some help Falcon’s will roll. If not we may be talking wildcard team again. I’m thinking Jenkins will bust out big time this year, Team’s keying on White and TG will open up some holes for Jenkins.
I still think a good backup QB should have been signed, Birds in trouble if Ryan gets hurt.
Dennis
May 11th, 2009
10:23 am
Brent Grimes plays with as much heart as I’ve ever seen, but I can hardly bear to watch it when they go after him. ’nuff said for now.
SPS
May 11th, 2009
10:27 am
Stirg & Sarah: The Broncos game meant nothing for playoff seedings. If we won that game and finished 12-4, Carolina still would have won the tie breaker based on their better division record. They were 4-2, Falcons were 3-3. In fact, winning that game would have only hurt our draft position. Still, the win would have been nice…
RedandBlack
May 11th, 2009
10:32 am
Redman and Shockley will shine and play very well in pre-season. Wilson, however, will have the light shown on him, and he will not make it after the second cut. The Falcons will cary three QBs. Wilson just will not stack up to Redman and Shockley come descision time. If anything, the gap between Redman and Shockley may get closer. That competition will only help the Falcons in the long run. Go Falcons!!
Stirg d'Nahsif
May 11th, 2009
10:39 am
SPS, my point was this. We cannot solely blame one person for the end result of our season last year. Whether it was the Eagles, Broncos, Saints or Panthers, we cannot say that ONE person was to blame for season’s end.
WR
May 11th, 2009
10:52 am
Dennis I agree, you want to see a guy with Grimes heart and passion for the game make it but he is so small teams just pick on him all day. I saw him in person and I can tell you the guy is not even 5′8 if he is its barely. I hope they can find a way to work him into the slot, maybe he would be better suited to cover the small Wes Walker types.
BigtimeFalconfan, you have a good point, but thats pretty much the problem for every NFL team. Occasionally you get a Matt Cassel but for the most part you get no better than what the Falcons already have. I watched Redman a couple of years back and I’m not a Redman fan but the guy actually looked pretty good which is what you want in a backup, a QB who can step in steady the ship in time of turbulence. Name one free agent QB who was out there that you believe could step in and do any better than what Redman offers, Jeff Garcia, he wants to be a Starter and would be disruptive,Byron Leftwich, been there done that, who else.
Not to bring up a sore subject but that was the problem when Vick was our starting QB. The offense was built around Vick and Vick’s ability to make plays, when he couldn’t or when he was hurt the offense went to hell. This coaching staff is building a team around the QB, in this case Matt Ryan, it works best with Ryan, but it will work with an adequate QB, not a one man show. Does the team appear as unstoppable with out Ryan, no, does the team totally go into the tank without Ryan, no. When you build an offense like the one the Falcons are trying to build or maybe have already built it makes circumstances like Matt Cassel possible. The principles won’t change no matter who the QB is, the Falcons want to run the ball and stop the run.
Sarah B
May 11th, 2009
10:55 am
Aahhhh, Stirg… so right you are about that, no I in team, however, you are wrong on one very large account: The EAGLE’S Game! That was lost soley by the cause of one person – The Ref calling a muffed kick return – largest pile of crap I saw on the football field last year, well 2nd behind the San Diego-Denver pile of crap.
Dawg95
May 11th, 2009
11:09 am
I can’t wait to play the Cowboys and watch Keith Brooking try to defend against Gonzalez. Gonzalez will have a field day on Brooking!
Hamad Meander
May 11th, 2009
11:15 am
A couple of comments – I wish I had been able to go to mini-camp, but I’ll just have to read about it. First off, no jobs are won or lost in mini-camp, so get that out of your minds. Secondly, Lawyer Milloy isn’t going to be resigned my the Falcons because they drafted William Moore in the 2nd round. He will start Game 1. Milloy isn’t coming back to be a back-up.
Thirdly, as much as I want JP Wilson to succeed, I hear the ball just doesn’t come out of this hand with the velocity the other QBs have – which is surprising given that Shockley and Redman aren’t known for their big arms.
Fourth and final comment – the guys I want to hear more about are Lawrence Sidbury (this guy is going to eat up the NFC South in a year or two), the two new CBs (are they going to be able to step up and play NFL ball?), and what’s up with John Abraham? How can be be injured after having the off season off?
jason
May 11th, 2009
11:17 am
Don’t care for the comments regarding former UGA players. I am curious about Shockey because each preseason reports are usaually good about him regarding not only physical tools, but make up, and understanding the level of play in the NFL. You don’t have to trash UGA’s players. They are now Falcons.
TheManMike
May 11th, 2009
11:23 am
Shockley has trade value i hope….I think all the teams saw that play when he tore that ACL or whatever it was…..I remember very clearly how he was handling that ball – NOT GOOD. He was wabbly and waving the ball like a wild man….Plus, he’s short. He will never be above 3rd string on this team, i dont think this staff wants him to be the backup….TRADE TRADE TRADE!
I cannot say that i have really seen anything worthy of him remaining on this team. He will never be the starter, so let him go somewhere he can play. I could be wrong about him, i just never saw anything to show that he was worthy – His sense of urgency he leaves on the sidelines when he hits the field is strange. I dont think he was ready to make a move to the bigs – and that injury really shell-shocked him….He may be damaged goods….Too bad…he was fast and does have a real rocket for an arm….But we have MattR – And thats all we need right now….
go Birds of Prey!
Stirg d'Nahsif
May 11th, 2009
11:25 am
Hey, Sarah. Top of the day to ya’!
I can’t comment on that Eagles game, I didn’t watch it; I just knew it was a lost. Thats one of the Cons of being away from home. Atlanta is not America’s team, YET! So they receive little national coverage. Think I’ll get directtv this season.
Sorry to hear ’bout your man Chuck Daly.
TheManMike
May 11th, 2009
11:25 am
For the record: Im not a college football fan…..So i like neither UGA or GT……
jason
May 11th, 2009
11:28 am
TheManMike , Just saying I don’t care where they come from. They are Falcons now. They will be supported. ATL is looking thin in the back up QB. I would like to think JPW could grab the 3 with DJ moving up to 2.
Stirg d'Nahsif
May 11th, 2009
11:39 am
Now, Hamad Meander, that is EXACTLY what I was suggesting when I said John Abraham needs to pull up his panties. How do you enter mini-camp, injured? What happened, Mr. Abraham? Did you step on a Weever fish while snorkling in the caribbean? I apologize Bird fans but I have no sympathy for a man making millions on something we do at leisure. Don’t give me any crap about “he’s a veteran” and “he’s earned this time off.” Bull! Matty Ice, The Burner and Rowdy Roddy White all earned time off; but they were there. White, as a matter of fact, had every legitimate excuse to hold-out of mini-camp because of contract negotiations; But the veteran showed up and showed out. He gets it.
Thank you for your input, Hamad Meander.
D3
May 11th, 2009
11:39 am
Great Monday Morning Bird-Cage Bro’s and Sis’s! So camp is offically over and now on to the extremely down and dry period for us Football junkies. Since our mini-camp buzz is rockin’ strong, we’ll wait for our Division-by-Division/Team Analysis and Final Record Competition as suggested by WR’s excellent idea. Don’t know about you guys(and gals), but I’d rather talk and discuss Football, even if its not Falcons every minute, than any other sport. Other sports are just stop-gaps to All Things Football. The Bird-Cage is rockin’ strong, averaging about 200 posts per blog topic every 3 days or so; pretty awesome, especially for off-season. To the posts……..
falcon21 – thank you for “answering” that ridiculous post about Shockley being cut.
Goldenglove – pretty good question, but I think Milloy days of wearing red and black are over. We’ve moved on as I’m sure he has as well. He’ll sign on somewhere more towards August if I were to bet. The market wasn’t quite what he thought it was for him.
cutter – on Redman and Shockley I think we’ll just have to agree to disagree. I am biased from the start because Shockley is one of my all-time favorite UGA players, so I’m not being truly objective. However that being said, my train of thought predictably sides with Shockley, but heres why:
1)Cap Room – Chris Redman is the 7th highest paid backup in the NFL, making almost 4 million a year to sit on the bench ($3.875 Mill) when the average is around $1.6 Million. Allowing Shockley to win the #2 and JPW #3 would save serious cash. Shockley currently makes $450,000.
2)Upside – Shockley is young, athletic, and has tons more upside than Redman. No knock no Redman personally, but he’ll be 33 this year and let’s be frank, was selling insurance before Petrino gave him a shot. He did earn it once he got a shot, so I’ll give credit where its due. Shockley has earned his spot as well with two different head coaches, and obviously he proved it at Georgia. The argument on no experience is valid, but how many backups do have experience until they get a shot? Matt Cassell didn’t play live football since his high school days, and look where he is now.
3)Younger/Process – keeping Shockley and JPW would allow for us to get younger at that position as well, along with learning and being indoctrinated in “their” system. Cassell is a great example at NE. They never planned on him playing, but after learning at a young age in the NFL behind Brady and in their system, he didn’t miss much of a beat after spending “years” in the system. How many years does Redman have left?
4)Wildcat/Scout – his athletic talent can be used as an occasional mismatch if we ever decide to use the Wildcat ourselves. I know that we used Norwood last year, but there was never a legitimate threat of him throwing the ball. He also will be a perfect scout player to help the first team defense prepare for said Wildcat because guess who’s first on our schedule: Miami with Ronnie Brown AND Pat White possibly running the Wildcat formation.
As I’ve said I’m not the best person to argue for Shockley because of my bias, but I’ve laid out several reasons why keeping Shockley over Redman might be in our best interest.
Mucho, mucho more to come later……
D3
May 11th, 2009
11:40 am
Raise the gates, Blog Monster on the loose!
D3
May 11th, 2009
11:44 am
Great Monday Morning Bird-Cage Bro’s and Sis’s! So camp is offically over and now on to the extremely down and dry period for us Football junkies. Since our mini-camp buzz is rockin’ strong, we’ll wait for our Division-by-Division/Team Analysis and Final Record Competition as suggested by WR’s excellent idea. Don’t know about you guys(and gals), but I’d rather talk and discuss Football, even if its not Falcons every minute, than any other sport. Other sports are just stop-gaps to All Things Football. The Bird-Cage is rockin’ strong, averaging about 200 posts per blog topic every 3 days or so; pretty awesome, especially for off-season. To the posts……..
falcon21 – thank you for “answering” that ridiculous post about Shockley being cut.
Goldenglove – pretty good question, but I think Milloy days of wearing red and black are over. We’ve moved on as I’m sure he has as well. He’ll sign on somewhere more towards August if I were to bet. The market wasn’t quite what he thought it was for him.
Advice to all our Bird-Cage Brethren: before you hit the submit button, copy your posts so that way you can always split them up or re-post easily when the Blog Grendel comes out of the cave.
Zoomie
May 11th, 2009
11:48 am
Man, this is a great blog! Very little foolishness, and even then, in a joking/prodding manner. I read it just about every day, but don’t comment because most of the posters on here are much more knowledgeable than me about football, and especially, the Falcons. This is the preferred site to treat off-season withdrawals. DOL, you’re running a gem, here!
D3
May 11th, 2009
11:48 am
Apologies if a re-post, the Blog Grendel is angry and hungry today evidently
Great Monday Morning Bird-Cage Bro’s and Sis’s! So camp is officially over and now on to the extremely down and dry period for us Football junkies. Since our mini-camp buzz is rockin’ strong, we’ll wait for our Division-by-Division/Team Analysis and Final Record Competition as suggested by WR’s excellent idea. Don’t know about you guys(and gals), but I’d rather talk and discuss Football, even if its not Falcons every minute, than any other sport. Other sports are just stop-gaps to All Things Football. The Bird-Cage is rockin’ strong, averaging about 200 posts per blog topic every 3 days or so; pretty awesome, especially for off-season. To the posts……..
falcon21 – thank you for “answering” that ridiculous post about Shockley being cut.
Goldenglove – pretty good question, but I think Milloy days of wearing red and black are over. We’ve moved on as I’m sure he has as well. He’ll sign on somewhere more towards August if I were to bet. The market wasn’t quite what he thought it was for him.
cutter – on Redman and Shockley I think we’ll just have to agree to disagree. I am biased from the start because Shockley is one of my all-time favorite UGA players, so I’m not being truly objective. However that being said, my train of thought predictably sides with Shockley, but heres why:
1)Cap Room – Chris Redman is the 7th highest paid backup in the NFL, making almost 4 million a year to sit on the bench ($3.875 Mill) when the average is around $1.6 Million. Allowing Shockley to win the #2 and JPW #3 would save serious cash. Shockley currently makes $450,000.
2)Upside – Shockley is young, athletic, and has tons more upside than Redman. No knock no Redman personally, but he’ll be 33 this year and let’s be frank, was selling insurance before Petrino gave him a chance. He did earn it once he got a shot, so I’ll give credit where its due. Shockley has earned his spot as well with two different head coaches, and obviously he proved it at Georgia. The argument on no experience is valid, but how many backups do have experience until they get a shot? Matt Cassell didn’t play live football since his high school days, and look where he is now.
3)Younger/Process – keeping Shockley and JPW would allow for us to get younger at that position as well, along with learning and being indoctrinated in “their” system. Cassell is a great example at NE. They never planned on him playing, but after learning at a young age in the NFL behind Brady and in their system, he didn’t miss much of a beat after spending “years” in the system. How many years does Redman have left?
4)Wildcat/Scout – his athletic talent can be used as an occasional mismatch if we ever decide to use the Wildcat ourselves. I know that we used Norwood last year, but there was never a legitimate threat of him throwing the ball. He also will be a perfect scout player to help the first team defense prepare for said Wildcat because guess who’s first on our schedule: Miami with Ronnie Brown AND Pat White possibly running the Wildcat formation.
As I’ve said I’m not the best person to argue for Shockley because of my bias, but I’ve laid out several reasons why keeping Shockley over Redman might be in our best interest.
Mucho, mucho more to come later……
D3
May 11th, 2009
11:48 am
Great Monday Morning Bird-Cage Bro’s and Sis’s! So camp is officially over and now on to the extremely down and dry period for us Football junkies. Since our mini-camp buzz is rockin’ strong, we’ll wait for our Division-by-Division/Team Analysis and Final Record Competition as suggested by WR’s excellent idea. Don’t know about you guys(and gals), but I’d rather talk and discuss Football, even if its not Falcons every minute, than any other sport. Other sports are just stop-gaps to All Things Football. The Bird-Cage is rockin’ strong, averaging about 200 posts per blog topic every 3 days or so; pretty awesome, especially for off-season. To the posts……..
D3
May 11th, 2009
11:49 am
falcon21 – thank you for “answering” that ridiculous post about Shockley being cut.
Goldenglove – pretty good question, but I think Milloy days of wearing red and black are over. We’ve moved on as I’m sure he has as well. He’ll sign on somewhere more towards August if I were to bet. The market wasn’t quite what he thought it was for him.
D3
May 11th, 2009
11:50 am
cutter – on Redman and Shockley I think we’ll just have to agree to disagree. I am biased from the start because Shockley is one of my all-time favorite UGA players, so I’m not being truly objective. However that being said, my train of thought predictably sides with Shockley, but heres why:
1)Cap Room – Chris Redman is the 7th highest paid backup in the NFL, making almost 4 million a year to sit on the bench ($3.875 Mill) when the average is around $1.6 Million. Allowing Shockley to win the #2 and JPW #3 would save serious cash. Shockley currently makes $450,000.
2)Upside – Shockley is young, athletic, and has tons more upside than Redman. No knock no Redman personally, but he’ll be 33 this year and let’s be frank, was selling insurance before Petrino gave him a chance. He did earn it once he got a shot, so I’ll give credit where its due. Shockley has earned his spot as well with two different head coaches, and obviously he proved it at Georgia. The argument on no experience is valid, but how many backups do have experience until they get a shot? Matt Cassell didn’t play live football since his high school days, and look where he is now.
3)Younger/Process – keeping Shockley and JPW would allow for us to get younger at that position as well, along with learning and being indoctrinated in “their” system. Cassell is a great example at NE. They never planned on him playing, but after learning at a young age in the NFL behind Brady and in their system, he didn’t miss much of a beat after spending “years” in the system. How many years does Redman have left?
4)Wildcat/Scout – his athletic talent can be used as an occasional mismatch if we ever decide to use the Wildcat ourselves. I know that we used Norwood last year, but there was never a legitimate threat of him throwing the ball. He also will be a perfect scout player to help the first team defense prepare for said Wildcat because guess who’s first on our schedule: Miami with Ronnie Brown AND Pat White possibly running the Wildcat formation.
As I’ve said I’m not the best person to argue for Shockley because of my bias, but I’ve laid out several reasons why keeping Shockley over Redman might be in our best interest. If someone wants to make counter-arguments for Redman, you know I’m all ears.
WR
May 11th, 2009
11:50 am
You don’t have to be a UGA fan to want a player to succeed because of the way he carries himself. I’m a Tech fan, Shockley was a heralded player coming out of North Clayton High, he went to UGA rode the bench without complaint and when the opportunity afforded itself he preformed on the field. He may not make it in the NFL but given the commitment,dedication,support and honor he has shown, he’s definitely a feel good story and I see nothing wrong with people rooting for him.
Ken Strickland
May 11th, 2009
11:51 am
JASON-I don’t know where this idea of Norwood being injury prone came from. It started during the Mora regime. At Miss St, he was a one man OFF and teams stacked the line of scrimmage to stop him. He had no problems getting hit or carring the load, and he did it in the country’s best football conference, the SEC, and against some of the country’s most powerful DEF’s.
So far, no HC has been able to understand how to utilize his emince talent properly. He’s been used in different ways, and rather inconsistently at times, so his overall performance would understandably be inconsistent. If used properly in our OFF, he could be a bigger, stronger, faster version of the Saints Reggie Bush. He’s definitely excelled as a kick returner. Imagine a DEF trying to cover a passing OFF formation featuring WR’s RWhite, HDouglas and MJenkins, TE TGonzalez and RB JNorwood. They’d definitely have to remove their LB’s and probably their SS. That leaves their DLine to pressure QB MRyan and that proved difficult last yr without the threat of a pass catching TE.
With the addition of TE TGonzalez, we now have the ability to pass with and on anyone. With RB MTurner, we’ve already proven we have the abiility to run with and on anyone. We’re going to have the most balanced OFF in football, which reminds me of the great Falcon OFF of the GRITS BLITZ era with RB’s WAndrews & LCain, WR’s AJenkins, WFrancis, AJackson, TE JMiller and QB SBartkoski.
Gatorzone
May 11th, 2009
11:57 am
I am eager for the season!!! The offense should be almost unstoppable. Defense will be better as well! I hope that the Birds put a MAJOR beatdown on Dallas this year!
RedandBlack
May 11th, 2009
12:02 pm
Redman stepped up two years ago in the pre season games and out played Shockley thorougly with his consistence. Later during that awful season, Redman was the starting QB and deservingly so.
Shockley plays a different style of game that offers the Falcons more speed and athleticism from the QB position. He has an arm too. Both Redman and Shockley have more game than Wilson. Much more.
Wilson will round out the bunch, but he is here for practice and not to stay. The Falcons should stick with Redman and Shockley. Right now, they are the two to develop the best should the Falcons need them. Let’s hope that they do not. Anyway, watch the pre season. Go Falcons!
Hamad Meander
May 11th, 2009
12:12 pm
D3 – thanks for the detail about the backup QB situation and it brings to light exactly what the backup QB situation is about – money. The real deal is that if Matt Ryan can’t play, it really doesn’t matter who is backing him up. The drop-off in talent would be so severe, that you could start Redman, Shockley, or Wilson and probably have very close results. The issue comes down to money – how much do you want to spend to insure you have a decent backup for Ryan. I say not much. Spend the money elsewhere (offensive line anyone?) and PROTECT Matt Ryan as best you can. That’s the best formula for success for the Falcons.
Back to the Wildcat offense – the Falcons will have no need for a gimmick offense in the redzone. The only gimmick they will need is Michael Turner bustin’ in the zone or Gonzalez catching another nice misdirection TD pass. There is NO need to waste a roster spot on anyone whose only attribute is play the Wildcat.
Phoneguy
May 11th, 2009
12:19 pm
WHEN Shockley gets playing time, He WILL flourish. Great character, Great leader, Great arm, Good legs, Great in the classroom. If Falcons keep him. He will be #2, or he will start for another team.
I know I’m a dawg homer but I promise its not affecting my outlook on him… he’s a player.
WR
May 11th, 2009
12:26 pm
Stirg, the Falcons played into January and even as just a Highschool football player I can tell you that five months is not a long time for recovery with considering the grind of a football season. If Abe had completely not shown up I would have no problem agreeing with you but the man was there and you have no idea what his offseason was like. Everyone shouts in TD we trust, we even call it the NE way, but part of the NE way is not to disclose pertinent injury information,especially in the offseason, for all we know Abe had a major surgery this offseason and its being kept underwraps, thats what good teams do. Look at Peyton Manning last year, everybody and their mom wanted to know what was going on, all Dungy would ever say is things were going well, its not that big of a deal. I respect your opinion even if I disagree, but the Abe bashing doesn’t make sense unless you have someone on the inside that we don’t know about. To help you understand, take a look at the Peria Jerry talk, the guy gets a mild knee sprain and anyone familiar with sprains know they take there time going away, now he gets to training camp, some days feel good others don’t, he’s seen limping but he’s okay,now we’re into the preseason schedule, some free agent no name is looking to make a name for himself he goes after Jerry who he has heard has a bad knee, not intentionally meaning to hurt him, but take advantage of his weakness, something awkward happens and Jerry blows out the knee,season over,we look forward to next year, why, because the injury was disclosed, would I say thats the only reason no, but it was about making a point. Don’t bash a player because you think he is taking time off, you don’t know the extent of last years injuries and you don’t know the level of recovery in the offseason, when he was the only pass rushing threat last year I bet you weren’t telling him to pull up his panties, if you don’t know, don’t assume. I trust that this coaching staff and personnel department know what there doing and I trust that Abe will do whats best for the team and his self, we all love football, but theres life after football for these players, players careers end mostly as late as 40 most are alot sooner, I’m sorry but 40 is not that old, but against doctors request and the advice of coaches and the training staff let me take part in a minicamp to appease a fan, not my team or the coaching staff that understands why I’m not participating. Whats even sadder Stirg, you made reference to Roddy White and his contract, basically saying that its okay to hold out for money but its not okay to hold out if your hurting. No you didn’t come right out and say that but it is what was implied when you say things like even Roddy White was at the minicamp considering his contract situation, last I checked he was still under contract.
RedandBlack
May 11th, 2009
12:31 pm
Winning in the long run, and especially in the NFL, is money. Redman and Shockley will provide the Falcons with the best opportunity to win, should they be called upon to do so. Wilson will not compare. The QB from Virgina Tech last year gave Shockley better competition than Wilson will give Shock this year. Take that to the bank.
Yes, the Falcons will need to hit them hard and often with Turner and Gonzalez. That will open up the field to hit the wideouts downfield. The defense will need to step up to keep the Falcons on top in the end.
The offense will be potent, and if healthy, then there will no need to be catting around. When you do not have much to bring, then you have to bring what you have. That is the wildcat. Go Falcons!!
jason
May 11th, 2009
12:45 pm
Ken, appreciate your take. I just always thought Norwood was playing with some kind of nagging injury. The only way I could explain the limited touches. With Norwood as the RB in shotgun will be huge. Espescially with Gonzo at TE. Who will the opposing D take away ?
You could run the wheel route, the sprint Draw , look to Roddy, Jenkins, Gonzo, And the list goes on and on.
jason
May 11th, 2009
12:51 pm
D3 knowlegeble as always. Great opinion on DJ. I am a UGA homer TO. Just a ‘lil biased.
Sarah B
May 11th, 2009
1:07 pm
Well said WR. I agree, if you are not 100% then no need to risk anything.
D3
May 11th, 2009
1:14 pm
JJ – where you been bro’? Tried any of those recipes? I tried Lil’ Dave’s Tender Sauce Friday night and it ROCKED THE HOUSE!!! You’re exactly right on the other blogs. I peeked over MB’s article the other day and left in two seconds. Why do you think they don’t bring that trash over here anymore? Because we don’t take the bait and acknowledge their vitriolic, hate-spewing, non-sensical posts. Thus they receive no attention and go somewhere else. Glad to have you back.
dacha – what’s goin’ on my bro’? No reason to rush the season to get here when we got this amazing blog to talk intelligent football with cool fans.
wxwax – it is tons of fun to be a part of something positive, enjoyable, and ethusiastic; especially after the couple of years before that. Under TD, Smitty, Blank, & Co.s direction we have reason to be optimistic that it’ll stay that way for awhile.
Stirg – what’s up in D-Town my man? Great question on Nicholas, Peterson, etc. Peterson coming from playing MLB for so long would seem to be a natural fit at SAM with his run-stuffing abilities and Nicholas would seem a great fit at WILL, allowing him to use his mad skills to rush the passer and drop into coverage. Maybe they know something we don’t.
Sarah B. – how goes it sis? Brooking’s play was a game changer, but there were many plays that led to our defeat in that one. His is just the most memorable due to it being right at the end and such an obvious passing down. There were many others as well. Milloy got burnt twice, once by Fitzgerald on the flea flicker and when Boldin just made him look silly. Gotta admit though that the play of the game was us being ahead, getting the ball back from halftime, and Dockery jumps through the line(offsides, as they did all game) and causes that fumble that bounced right into the CB’s hands. Just one of those fluke plays, but that changed the entire make-up of the whole game. I was so P—–! Brooking was a great player for us and a rock-solid guy throughout his tenure as a Falcon. I wish him the best, but I really hate the Cowboys.
willie – lets hope for the best on P.Jerry. Smitty said “he’ll be fine” which is always good. Probably just taking precaution, rightly so.
WR – I know about too good to be true. But I think partly is that we’re just not used to having consistent success. I think we’ll be fine because we’re in good hands with TD, Smitty, Blank, & Co. I can tell you as a UGA grad and fan, that I had the same feeling when we were on the Sports Illustrated cover. The whole team believed their own BS, including the coaches. I’m gonna come up with a weekly breakdown in just a little bit, so let me know what you think.
jason – I agree on Norwood. Surely Mularkey was/is hard at work trying to figure out ways to get him the ball. I thought he had probably his best year as a pro last year, remember how he might as well not have been on the team when jack@ss Petrino was here? We have a one-two punch in Turner and Norwood, the same way they didin Jacksonville with Taylor and Jones-Drew. We just gotta re-signe Norwood. Might be tough, because I guarantee you that some team will probably offer him starters $$$. BTW, thank you for saying that about colleges for chrissake. If they want to trash UGA go to their blog or GT blog or any college blog. That’s the main reason I love this blog so much, is that it’s actually intelligent, respectful football conversations; not this my team is better, your team sucks crap.
Dennis – agreed. Love Grimes in a nickel or dime CB role, but watching Muhammed take him apart in Carolina last year was brutal.
Hamad – great to have you in the ‘Cage my man. Excellent insights, keep’em coming.
TheManMike – got to respectfully disagree my man. Shockley had a big injury at UGA and came back to win the SEC. I understand your POV b/c he hasn’t shown much on the field, but neither did Matt Cassell until he got his shot.
Zoomie – welcome in the Bird-Cage. The loyal fans/bloggers on here have made a concerted effort to be positive, respectful, and insightful. We disagree all the time, but we do it a respectful manner. Outside of actual Football, this has become one of my favorite hobbies, really an obsession.
Later boys, great stuff as always. Got some stuff up our sleeve to keep the Football Mojo going, so don’t think about taking a hiatus after the mini-camp buzz wears off.
Green Tea
May 11th, 2009
1:23 pm
Cutter, your comments on Shockley having no stats holds ZERO water. Case in point Matt Cassel. Quit acting like you know everything…
jason
May 11th, 2009
1:28 pm
Gotta get norwood resigned. I love Snelling, but he don’t have Norwood’s speed. Brown doesn’t have his size. Look for alot of youth to be served in the preseason. This is a continiuation of building depth.
Gatorzone
May 11th, 2009
1:29 pm
would love the tenders sauce recipe. I don’t know about you guys, but there just seems to be a refresing professional way the Falcons are doing everything now days. Gone are the loudmouth flash in the pan draft choices, in are the disciplined pros. Looking forward to building on 08 this year and believe this will be the year we finally break the back to back curse!
jason
May 11th, 2009
1:37 pm
Gatorzone, totally agree. there is just something about the ATL. you know, that “IT” factor. Can’t put my finger on it. Happy to say, it just doesn’t feel right. It feels really good to be a Falcon fan, now.
WR
May 11th, 2009
1:41 pm
Sarah, your a woman after my own heart, I love football, haven’t found a football loving woman as yourself which at this time I’m considering rare, but with all the love I know that at some point these players career will come to an end. At times it appears that we as fans want these players to be soldiers, but soldiers enlist knowing that they have to be willing to give their life for the cause, police officers and firemen are in the same boat.Football is for entertainment, these guys get millions of dollars to make fans happy, but as fans we sometime forget that after its all said and done these same players have to go home to a wife and a child(ren). I appreciate all the soldiers,policemen,and firemen who put their life on the line to make my life better, but as far as football, I would love for the Falcons to win a Superbowl but not at the risk of a persons’ well being,health, or life. You here stories all the time about such and such player playing with torn MCL (Rivers,SD), a broken arm or hand, torn biceps,hip flexor,sprained ankle or whatever else. If they feel they can play through the injury fine, if they don’t, they shouldn’t be chastised by us bystanders for our instant gratification. Play the game with heart, play the game with passion and dedication, chances are if your playing for those reasons you will know if you can go or not. As I said even in highschool, when your body heals faster, five months is not that much time, five months is a long time when your a kid waiting on Christmas, not when your an adult that has to play the ultimate violent sport in the United States if not the world.
gp295
May 11th, 2009
1:45 pm
On Shockley please do not trade him to N.E. will not be a good move for the NFL. Shockley sitting and learning from the one of the best in the NFL, system will fit his overall awareness of the game. He is a coach son who ran a pro style offence.
jason
May 11th, 2009
1:50 pm
gp295, ??? Please explain. Where did that come from ?
Lil'Dave
May 11th, 2009
2:24 pm
D3 – “I tried Lil’ Dave’s Tender Sauce Friday night and it ROCKED THE HOUSE!!!” Thanks for the compliment bro!
From what I saw on Saturday from camp was a very energetic Falcons football team. Kelly the undrafted free agent out of Clemson had several good catches and has great sizes. But man what a baby face. He couldve passed for the tallest 14 year old ever. Now Tony G and Ryan were clicking right away! Ryan made several good passes to Tony G to fire up the crowd watching. Sucks I didnt get to see much of the defense…they were on the opposite side of the field. And Wow what a mountain Mr. Garrett Reynolds is! He was just flat out huge! And the highlight for me was shaking Coach Smiths hand and congratulating him on winning the coach of the year. Then he processed to walk off with my Sharpie….thankfully that was after I got Tony G’s auto.
jcamp12
May 11th, 2009
2:29 pm
D-Led, Heard anything on Von Hutchins injury from last year? He is a very good defensive back that should help out this year.
jason
May 11th, 2009
2:37 pm
D3, give me a two deep on the D.
jason
May 11th, 2009
2:39 pm
D3, your opinion
Lil'Dave
May 11th, 2009
2:52 pm
Gatorzone – Here go buddy enjoy!
6 servings
1½ hours 30 min prep
Ingredients:
2 tablespoons vegetable oil
3/4 cup onions, minced
2 large garlic cloves, minced
7 ounces chipotle chiles in adobo (or to taste)
1 cup black coffee
1/2 cup cider vinegar
1/2 cup apple cider or apple juice
1/2 cup brown sugar, packed
3 tablespoons tomato paste
2 tablespoons Worcestershire sauce
2-3 lbs boneless pork loin
salt
Heat oil over medium heat in a large saucepan and add onion and garlic until onion is translucent.
Add chipotle peppers that have been removed from the sauce and finely chopped. BEWARE! Add only amount needed for your taste. Add to onions along with the adobe sauce.
Add coffee through Worcestershire Sauce and whisk to combine. Bring to a simmer and cook for 5 to 6 minutes. Remove from heat and refrigerate until chilled. (Can make the sauce ahead of time.).
Place pork loin in a deep bowl or large plastic Ziplock bag. Marinate for at least 12 hours up to 2 days. Turn the pork occasionally.
About 2 hours before grilling, remove pork from marinade. Bring the marinade to a boil (for a minimum of 5 minutes for food safety) until slightly thickened. Season with salt if desired or needed. Use 1/2 cup marinade to baste the pork and use remaining marinade to serve with the pork.
Heat grill to medium-hot and set pork, fat side down on grill. Turn and baste with the sauce until meat reaches an inernal temperature of 150 degrees F. (About 50 to 60 minutes depending on your grill) Careful not to overcook.
Let stand for juices to settle. Reheat sauce to serve with the meat.
Gatorzone
May 11th, 2009
2:58 pm
Thanks LilDave, I will try it soon.
jason
May 11th, 2009
2:58 pm
Looks like a ATL Falcon tailgating recipe. Yeah I printed it, Try it out this week end. Thanks Lil’Dave .
Stirg d'Nahsif
May 11th, 2009
3:04 pm
WR, you my horse, even if you never win a race. I appreciate the rapport we have between us, that would allow us to respectfully disagree with each other and still be friends in the end.
With all that said, let the debate begin…
Isn’t that the very reason why professional athletes get paid millions of dolllars to play the game? Athletes are paid millions to withstand the rigours of an NFL season and return, the next season, as healthy as possible. I was to scholastic to be an athlete; however, I did receive my share of injuries in the military, in pick-up ball or just playing in the backyard. I’m MOST familiar with total reconstruction to the knee, ACL repair and MCL repair. I know the time it takes to get back (hell, it took me a year and I’m still not one-hundred percent). My point is, though…
You know what, WR? I just realized I need to take this up with the man himself…
I want to make an attempt to get a personal message to Mrs. John Abraham. If you’re not reading this, Mrs. Abraham, I sincerely hope that someone, in your social circle, is able to relay this message.
I’m about 7.6 million dollars (per year) from matching your salary. Which means, you probably don’t give a damn how I feel. One advantage I do have over you is, I have been a Falcon fan longer than you have been a Falcon. Considering I am older than you, I have been a Falcon loyalist all your life. So, it is because of fans like me that make you a millionaire. In essence, I’m partly your boss; at least, I’m a stock holder.
I like you, Mrs. Abraham, mostly, because of your gift; but I also like you because you’re a southern boy (albeit, South Carolina), which means you’re familiar with playing football in your GrandMa’s backyard. You remember “tackle-the-man-with-the-ball”? You remember when no one wanted to play because Big Buster Roy-D was playing and nobody could tackle the 310 pounder? Nobody would step on the field but you. You were the only one brave enough to tackle big Roy-D and, when you did, it was lights out. You don’t remember the times when you would lunge at a ball carrier and knock him into the middle of next week?
If you remember those times, Mrs. Abraham, I implore that you bring back those days. We (the players) need for you to show up. We (the Falcons) need for you to show out. We (the fans) need for you to just show us something; anything. Put on a helmet and do some jumping jacks, I don’t care. Just show the fans that you care about our concerns. If you’re injured, that’s one thing; but if you’re hurt, then dry your tears and get out there to tutor the young cats that are looking up to you. You are only as good as your last home-run (in your case, your last sack). Forget about formalities and reporting. Just imagine that you’re in your GrandMa’s backyard and Big Roy-D just called you a wuss.
WR, sorry if I stepped on your toes, buddy. Hope we can remain partners.
Nookah
May 11th, 2009
3:26 pm
Zoomie, ain’t no thing my brother, welcome. Do you honestly think I know anything more about football than you do? However, I participate just the same. The posse here is unbelievable. You make a comment that does not make sense, you are respectfully corrected and guess what? If you approach this blog with an open mind, there is so much to learn. Hey if it makes you feel better about particpating, I’m a Jamaican who lived in the ATL for 5 years, fell in love with all the home-town teams (yes I know I’m long-suffering), went back to Jamaica and now living in Canada. Now what in that background makes you think I qualify to be here more than you except the passion and the love for THE BIRDS OF PREY!?
We Jah people can make it work, come together and make it work……(Robert Nesta Marley)….It’s all good ….One Love!!!
WR, I’m with you on the Abraham thing. I’m not sure if he is hurt, coming off surgery or what but he plays an integral role in our “pressure defense”. I look at it this way. If you have a derby horse in your stable, you don’t race him every day? You keep him sharp. If he had a tough season then you make sure he is properly rested and healed so when you are ready to call on him for the next season he will respond. So let’s not get too worked up until we get all the facts. Right now we are all speculating. Don’t worry ’bout a thing…every little thing is gonna be all right!!!
Oh, not sure if anybody has reported this yet but it is reported Falcons are working on an extension for Roddy. I hope that’s accurate.
Go Falcons!!!!
Nuff respect everytime!!!!
Ken Strickland
May 11th, 2009
3:26 pm
WR-this idea of Atlanta being a sorry sports town is relative. Unlike the fans in cities like Chicago, New York, Boston, Philly, Detroit etc, Atlanta fans won’t spend the time and money to consistently support a loser. We’ve definitely proven we’re more than willing to support a winner and/or a team that provvides excitement.
It’s funny, people that claim Atlanta is a poor sports town can’t seem to grasp the reality that LA can’t/won’t even support an NFL team, win or lose. When Atlanta franchises have had solid ownership, they’ve done well. The problem is the lack of consistent solid ownership. Look at the Braves success when Ted Turner owned them, then look at the teams lack of success under Corp ownership, which existed before and after Ted Turner. The same holds true for the Hawks. The Falcons had the Smith Family, a greedy, selfish and incompetent owner who’s primary concern was using the team as a tax writeoff. They had little interest in investing in making the team a consistent winner. How many FA’s can any long time Falcon fans remember them investing in, or how many of their draft picks did they invest in keeping?
After the Falcons won their division, and came within a single Drew Pearson pass play from going to the Superbowl, rather than investing in retaining the teams key players, ownership disbanded the team, including the HC LBennett and the GM, ELabaron. IT’S HARD FOR ATLANTA FANS TO BE CONSISTENT WHEN THE FRANCHISES HAVE BEEN SO INCONSISTENT. Also, a large percentage of Atlanta’s population is from out of state and many bring their home state and/or city loyalities with them.
All anyone has to do is look at the support the Falcons got when we were successful/exciting under the GRITS BLITZ, the DIRTY BIRDS and MVick. Just watch the support they’ll get this season. Even though the Hawks had a losing record last yr, they got good support, especially during the playoffs. The same holds true for this yrs team, and as soon as they get adequate coaching, they’ll get better and receive even more fan support.
Sarah B
May 11th, 2009
3:31 pm
Lil’Dave – I love Adobo. It adds the best flavor to everything especially pork & chicken… that sounds like a great sauce. But I’d probably have to back off just a little on the chipolte’s. I like hot but whew that sounds really hot.
Stirg funny stuff but is only May and Id rather see him in person in September not on IR.
I used to think pulling a hammy was a wuss injury until I pulled a hammy in step class years ago, wow that sucked.
Stirg d'Nahsif
May 11th, 2009
3:32 pm
What’s the word, Nookah?
Sarah B
May 11th, 2009
3:34 pm
Nooka, today is the 28th anniversary of the Great Bob’s death and the radio station, which you can listen to on dave.fm it playing a TON of the great masters music today. Now how do you go from Jamica to Canada? Torture yourself much?
jason
May 11th, 2009
3:36 pm
In my opinion concerning JA. He should be cinditioning if anything. This mini camp is for the young players. I would like to hear that he was assting in showing the young DEs, and OLBs techniques and nuances of playing at the pro level.Paying it foward to the next generation.
Stirg d'Nahsif
May 11th, 2009
3:38 pm
I don’t want anyone to misconstrue my words and suggest that I’m anti-Abraham. I am far from being an Abraham-hater. I, too, think that his position with the ball club is vital. Its just that if I’m giving you a paycheck, I want you to come to work. That’s all.
FDB
May 11th, 2009
3:38 pm
Explain again why we can not see Vick as wildcat/flanker? Here is a guy on the roster already that could present a real headache for defenses. Rengotiate his contract, stipulate flanker only, and let him play. The Falcons pick up another offensive weapopn to spread the field. The coaches have to at least be considering this. Forgiveness > hate.
Stirg d'Nahsif
May 11th, 2009
3:44 pm
You know, Sarah, its funny that you would mention “Jamaicans in Canada”. Ironically, Nookah is not the first person I’ve met that did the migration. I know a number of dreads in Canada (especially Toronto, Windsor and Niagra Falls).
Funny. I think (if I had to guess) it has a lot to do with the diaspora and Underground Railroad. You should be most familiar, coming from Detroit.
Nookah
May 11th, 2009
3:56 pm
Stirg, you the man!! Thanks for the link. Ask the wife how come I ended up here. Maybe it’s a step in the plan to get to the ATL. It would be great to move next to my Birds!!!! Stranger things have happened.
Exodus, movement of Jah people…….(you know who!!!)
Go Falcons!!!
Nuff respect everytime!!!.
Nuff
Sarah B
May 11th, 2009
4:09 pm
Stirg – I left the big D in ‘85. My dad had retired from Ford and I was 20 – going to EMU and they made me move to Asheville NC. Talk about B.S. I was so miserable there I bailed within 8 months to the ATL ditched the Lions and hitched my train to the Falcons and I’m never going back to the cold again.
Come on back Nookah…
Nookah
May 11th, 2009
4:19 pm
Thanks Sarah B. That would be great, working on it. After all I have a permanent visa for Falcon Nation!!!
Billy Joe Tolliver
May 11th, 2009
4:22 pm
I would be willing to sign at the league minimum to be the 2nd team QB. You guys should still have my number, give me a shout.
Stirg d'Nahsif
May 11th, 2009
4:30 pm
Billy Joe, keep your job at Turner Field. Who else is going to work the ticket window?
Billy Joe Tolliver
May 11th, 2009
4:33 pm
Ole Bobby Hebert can handle that…I still got some ball left in me.
jason
May 11th, 2009
4:36 pm
Just thinkning, if DJ is not the answer, ATL might have to spena 5-7 pick next year for a back up QB. I’m not trying to jinx Matty Ice, but you have have someone ready just in case.
Billy Joe Tolliver
May 11th, 2009
4:38 pm
Why spend a pick when they could have me? I have already said I will sign at the league minimum. You must not remember the hail mary I threw about 20 years ago.
Joe's place Joe speaking
May 11th, 2009
4:39 pm
Where is D-Led at??!! It seems like D3 is the one answering all the questions! Or is D3 D-Led??
Stirg d'Nahsif
May 11th, 2009
4:42 pm
lol…You were funny then, Billy Joe, and you’re even funny now.
Joe, you might be onto something. D3, is that really you D.O.?
jason
May 11th, 2009
4:44 pm
Billy Jo, maybe you could also be the wedge buster on kick offs…
D3
May 11th, 2009
4:54 pm
Joe – no I’m not D-Led. Just a serious football junkie having fun with a hobby. Got a little extra time on my hands right now staying home w/ my 1 month old.
cutter
May 11th, 2009
4:57 pm
FLOWERY BRANCH, Ga. — If you press a certain button on Ray Hamilton’s computer, you get the best of Michael Strahan and Kevin Greene. It’s all part of an attempt to get the best of Jamaal Anderson.
Hamilton is the defensive line coach for the Atlanta Falcons and Anderson is the top-10 draft pick from 2007 who hasn’t come anywhere close to tapping his enormous potential in his first two seasons.
That’s why Anderson has spent a large chunk of his offseason sitting in Hamilton’s office watching clips of two of the greatest pass-rushers in history. They’ve got a couple of hundred sacks between them. Anderson has just two, and those didn’t come until his second season.
“They had great usage of their hands,” Anderson said. “They always had great leverage. I’m just trying to take some of the things they did and use them to make myself a better player.”
Although many fans already have declared Anderson a bust, the Falcons haven’t. He still lined up at defensive end with the first team in the three-day minicamp that concluded Sunday. That’s a pretty strong indication that the hope is Anderson will step up and keep that position.
“Jamaal’s worked hard and he’s made progress,” coach Mike Smith said. “Unfortunately, guys often times, are judged by their draft status and that comes with the territory. But my experience here with Jamaal in one season is that we are pleased with his progress. We think he’s made huge steps from the first day that we got here and we think he will continue to do that.”
It’s nice to talk about progress, but fans want production. So do the Falcons and so does Anderson.
“This is a big year for me, no doubt,” Anderson said.
Jamaal Anderson
#98 DE
Atlanta Falcons
CAREER STATS
TACK SOLO SACK FF INT
57 50 2.0 1 0
That’s why he’s taken a much more studious approach to the offseason. Ask around Flowery Branch about Anderson and the word is that he’s spent more offseason time at the complex than just about any player.
In addition to the countless hours of watching film of Strahan and Greene, Anderson also has spent more time in the weight room than ever before. He says he’s stronger and quicker than he’s been in the past and he wants that to translate into success on the field.
There were some fan-generated rumblings about Anderson perhaps switching from defensive end to defensive tackle. That’s not happening, although Anderson will continue to move inside in sub packages, just like he did last year.
“In terms of flexibility he’s a guy that we played last year in base at defensive end and played him inside in our sub package and that probably will continue,” Smith said. “That gives you a lot of flexibility on game days.”
Anderson strongly believes he’s ready to be more productive in his third season. He understands the frustration of the fans. Heck, he’s frustrated too. That’s why he’s worked harder than ever this offseason.
“I try my hardest not to pay attention to what’s said, but it’s pretty much impossible to tune everything out,” Anderson said. “My sister’s into gossip and she tries to give me feedback that’s out there, but all I can do is trust the people who are here every day and they’re giving me positive feedback. But the fact is, I’ve become my own worst critic.”
That’s why he’s been watching so much of Strahan and Greene, and that’s why he’s spent so much time in the weight room. Anderson knows this is a make-or-break season and he wants to make it.
Wildebeast
May 11th, 2009
5:10 pm
Let’s go back to the old uniforms…Jessie Tuggle style!
jason
May 11th, 2009
5:20 pm
I would so love the traditional red jerseys
jason
May 11th, 2009
5:28 pm
And the red helmets, my favorite
angry banker
May 11th, 2009
5:53 pm
D3 – couldn’t agree with you more on Shockley v Redman – I would add they both have a very high Football IQ; will be important to keep atleast one of the around during the first few years for Matt Ryan’s career, even if JPW winds up being a solid 2nd.
cutter
May 11th, 2009
6:22 pm
Roddy White continues to have problems catching the ball. I’d say his catch/drop ratio was about 50/50. Not a great way to win a new contract. At one point, after a drop in the photo I’ve included in the stream above, the wide receivers coach yelled “You can’t drop [gizflammin'] passes if you want to be a receiver in the NFL!”
Matt Ryan is still a beast. He looks so comfortable now that he’s been leading this offense for a year.
William Moore will be a serious contender for first team. At one point, he made an extremely athletic pass deflection, almost catching the ball. The skills are there. They only need be honed.
Mike Peterson was a very smart sign. Throughout the drills, he swarmed to the ball quickly and covered short passes well. He also intercepted a Redman pass and returned it for a touchdown mid-way through practice.
Peria Jerry is humongous. He also has a very good push and a serviceable swim. He consistently pushed through the line when the second team drilled.
Dahl is a smack talker. Now if he could just stop false-starting, which he did during an 11-on-11.
John Parker Wilson will give Shockley and Redman some competition this summer. He was very consistent with his throws and even landed a 40 yard touchdown pass to Harry Douglas. The only issue he has right now is a tendency to hold on to the ball too long after a snap. On one occasion, he pump-faked in the very direction he was about to throw. The ball was easily swatted down.
Weems can catch, but for some reason, only when Wilson is behind center.
Snelling was categorically slow out of the handoff and failed to gain more than two or three yards a carry. But he can catch like mad. Situational player right there.
Norwood has to have an invisible jet engine strapped to his back. He ran three balls to the endzone, once slipping between two touches on his way. At one point, he was out of the handoff and between the DTs before anyone noticed he had the ball.
Turner was Burnin’ it up during running drills. He was tackled (aka touched) maybe once out of ten carries.
Mike Smith cusses like a sailor. F-bombs freely rained down on some soft-headed players.
Tony G has a habit of using his shoe to scratch his shin.
Don’t expect Owens to make first team this year. He bites hard on cuts.
cutter
May 11th, 2009
6:23 pm
More info I found.
WR
May 11th, 2009
6:45 pm
Cutter, nice post about Jamaal I am one of the few fans who believe he will break out this year.
Stirg,
Players are paid based on preformance whether thats past,present or futute expected preformance. The proportion of what they earn is a direct result of not letting the league or owners use them to pad their own pockets. If players didn’t demand the money they got it would be the equivalent of companies hiring cheap illegal aliens to maximize their profits as the poor immigrants suffered, but I guess as fans we are helping to pay millions for a guy to sit up on the DL as Mike Hampton did for the few years he was with the braves,players get hurt thats part of the game, they make playstations for those fans that can’t understand that. Now as a fan if your unwilling to understand that you have no idea whats going on with a player especially health wise, and you stoop to the level of calling a grown man Mrs because of it, your wasting your money. Stirg, earlier I said I respected your opinion and I believe that was rightfully so until you called the man Mrs. For you and anyone reading this post, if I sound heated its because I am, its because someone is being degraded by a fan when we have no idea whats going on with him. Back in 1992 that happened to another player, people wondered where he was, what was going on with him, made statements like he’s being wimpy because he can’t play through the little flu bud that he had, and then he stepped out and said he had HIV, his name Magic Johnson. I’m not comparing Abe’s situation to his, what I am comparing is the fact that people especially so-called fans shouldn’t resort to name calling or berating a player until the facts come out.
WR
May 11th, 2009
6:48 pm
Jason I agree, I don’t know if they should do it full time but I would like for them to bring out the old red helmets.
WR
May 11th, 2009
7:37 pm
Does anyone find the whole ordeal with Farve worth going on and on about, I know its not a usual birdcage topic but figured I would gave the interest here in our group because the network sportscasters seem to think its a big deal.
WR
May 11th, 2009
7:42 pm
gave should be gage
JJ
May 11th, 2009
9:19 pm
D3: My man, I’m always here, just dont post. First thing I do after my fresh cup of ground joe (another hobby, not hobby but neccessity,- best bean coffee-?)before work, I check this blog. Awesome football intelligence, without the usual racist bs. I applaud you all and like D3, this is and has been my fav. hobby for quite some time.
To the newcombers: welcome, with a bit of advise. These guys/gal know their shit. Research is recommended, my chris houston vent a few weeks ago was put to rest with logic and I was sent to to the corner of the room.
FALCON NATION:
D3
May 11th, 2009
9:29 pm
cutter – thanks for the updates and information brother. Get more information from you than anywhere else. Appreciate it. Don’t know where you got that last bit of info from, but that’s more in-depth description we’ve gotten in a while.
I’m all for throwbacks once or twice and I may be in the minority, but I actually like our uniforms a lot. Red jerseys and black pants are my favorite combo, although I’m a very big fan of all black too.
WR & Stirg – you know its all good guys; we’re bro’s in here in the ‘Cage, and sometimes we’ll just have to agree to disagree. Sometimes we get passionate about a player/subject and use colorful language about it. All good peeps.
WR – yeah, the Favre thing is ridiculous. The dude is one of the biggest drama queens to play. I respect his career, skills, and ability but how many times can you retire? Gimme a break. Gonna put up the division/team analysis in a bit, let me know what you think.
Ed
May 11th, 2009
9:29 pm
Notes found from minicamp…
Roddy White continues to have problems catching the ball. I’d say his catch/drop ratio was about 50/50. Not a great way to win a new contract. At one point, after a drop in the photo I’ve included in the stream above, the wide receivers coach yelled “You can’t drop [gizflammin'] passes if you want to be a receiver in the NFL!”
Matt Ryan is still a beast. He looks so comfortable now that he’s been leading this offense for a year.
William Moore will be a serious contender for first team. At one point, he made an extremely athletic pass deflection, almost catching the ball. The skills are there. They only need be honed.
Mike Peterson was a very smart sign. Throughout the drills, he swarmed to the ball quickly and covered short passes well. He also intercepted a Redman pass and returned it for a touchdown mid-way through practice.
Peria Jerry is humongous. He also has a very good push and a serviceable swim. He consistently pushed through the line when the second team drilled.
Dahl is a smack talker. Now if he could just stop false-starting, which he did during an 11-on-11.
John Parker Wilson will give Shockley and Redman some competition this summer. He was very consistent with his throws and even landed a 40 yard touchdown pass to Harry Douglas. The only issue he has right now is a tendency to hold on to the ball too long after a snap. On one occasion, he pump-faked in the very direction he was about to throw. The ball was easily swatted down.
Weems can catch, but for some reason, only when Wilson is behind center.
Snelling was categorically slow out of the handoff and failed to gain more than two or three yards a carry. But he can catch like mad. Situational player right there.
Norwood has to have an invisible jet engine strapped to his back. He ran three balls to the endzone, once slipping between two touches on his way. At one point, he was out of the handoff and between the DTs before anyone noticed he had the ball.
Turner was Burnin’ it up during running drills. He was tackled (aka touched) maybe once out of ten carries.
Mike Smith cusses like a sailor. F-bombs freely rained down on some soft-headed players.
Tony G has a habit of using his shoe to scratch his shin.
Don’t expect Owens to make first team this year. He bites hard on cuts.
Second-year wide receiver Harry Douglas looks comfortable in the third-receiver role. The offense lined up multiple times in three-receiver sets and Douglas appears capable of continuing the promise he showed as a rookie. Over the three days he caught the ball well in traffic as well as adjusting to some occasionally poorly thrown balls.
Second-year running back Thomas Brown made a case for his consideration for the third running back position. He ran with authority, speed, and elusiveness.
Undrafted rookie receiver Aaron Kelly seized his opportunity at mini camp and seemed to impress the coaches. The 6′5″, 190 pound former Clemson receiver made numerous nice catches, including one diving grab in the end zone on the second day.
JJ
May 11th, 2009
9:35 pm
D3: always here my man, just workin’ too many hours lately to come home and research with you guys/gal(:)hey sarah b, seen you on v. blogs over yrs.)
I check this blog first thing before I go to work and last thing before I retire. Like D3 says: it’s my favorite hobby!
I’m sure of all of us have been on other sports blogs and it seems like its all teenager angst or racist crap, both black and white. This blog is different and I thank you ALL (guys/gal). After my chris houston beating I took a few weeks ago (maybee justified.lol), you need to research a little on this blog.
Example:I respect stirg, but he kind of unzipped his fly this weekend with Abe (he came around).
No biggie, this blog comprises ADULTS who can agree to disagree without getting personal.
This fact makes FALCON NATION STRONGER…… cue barry!!!!!!!!!!!!!!lol
D3
May 11th, 2009
9:35 pm
Ed – thanks for the update brother. Particularly, the updates on HD, TBrown, and Aaron Kelly. I thought Kelly was over 200 lbs. Guess not. He definitely needs to put on some serious weight.
Stirg d'Nahsif
May 11th, 2009
10:09 pm
cutter, you are definitely, and officially, the man. Thanks for the details. I, for one, really appreciate that.
WR, you know that guy that sits in the stands, right behind the home team, and speaks his mind? I’m that guy. I am going to be honest as I possibly can. If my honesty and opinions hurt your feelings, I apologize. In this situation right here, though, I paid for this. I have paid, royally, to have the right to heckle every single player in the NFL. As a fan, I can heckle every player on the roster. Hopefully, they’ll play better. I did not heckle you. You will notice that I redirected the tone away from you and towards him. Why be sensitive to my offense towards him? I’ve said some foul things, on this blog, and I’m probably going to say some more. I’ll say those things because, again, I’ve paid for that.
I tell you what I’ll do for you, though, to show you how loyal of a fan I am to this organization. First, I apologize to MR. Abraham if I offended you and/or your manhood. Secondly, for WR, if MR. Abraham starts every game this upcoming season, I’ll wear those same panties on my head to every post-season game, home and away. You’ll know its me because, if there’s a man in the stands with a pair of panties on his head, it’ll certainly be on TV. Will that patch up any bad blood? We still on for Ramen Noodles and a buur?
JJ
May 11th, 2009
10:10 pm
“THOU SHALT NOT RUN” !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Peace brothers/sis-I’m out-5:30am cometh!
Stirg d'Nahsif
May 11th, 2009
10:34 pm
I just thought about something. Perhaps I should have told Jamaal Anderson to pull his panties up, since so many call him a bust. Is it because of Abraham’s 16.5 sack total that brings everyone to his defense? Because I don’t recall anyone, besides a few (you know who you are) that defended Anderson’s name when so many offended him in past posts.
WR
May 11th, 2009
10:42 pm
Stirg, so your a heckler, man you should have said that in the beginning we could have saved some of this space. I’m use to it at the games, didn’t expect to hear from one on the blog. My bad, and don’t worry about me being sensitive, I saw a post that got the blood flowing and responded to it, I’m pretty sure it will happen again and anyone of any intelligence wouldn’t take it personally and I don’t. Definitely still on for the Ramen Noodles, gotta be the beef flavor ones though, if we mess around and bring some spam along with the beanie weenies and a keg, I’m going to have a college flash back and start chasing skirts all over again.
Stirg d'Nahsif
May 11th, 2009
10:48 pm
I’m one of those that like Anderson. I appreciate the piece that cutter posted earlier. I’ve thought, all along, that its going to take this man three years to establish himself as a defensive end in the N.F.L. He showed an enormous amount of maturity by disregarding all the negative sayings about him. For three years, he’s had to endure this negativity; still, he’s starting. What a remarkable example to set for the rest of your teammates. You mean to tell me, I can tell Anderson to pull his panties up, for three years (and I’m sure he’s heard worse) and he’s still motivated to come out and try his best. Anderson will fool alot of fans and media, alike, this season. He’ll prove my logic and he will have the last laugh. Guess what? He’ll be here after two more years.
WR
May 11th, 2009
10:49 pm
What about not using panties, when I think about panties its not on football players no matter how much they suck. Grow a pair or something works better, the panty is sacred and should not be used when referring to men.
Stirg d'Nahsif
May 11th, 2009
10:51 pm
No, WR. You got to throw cheese in there. Ramen noodles with sausage and cheese.
WR
May 11th, 2009
10:53 pm
On second thought pull your panties up works, maybe not for Abe but the entire Atlanta Hawks team, especially Joe I’m an all star only during the regular season.
Stirg d'Nahsif
May 11th, 2009
10:53 pm
You know what, WR, you right. I’m sitting over here grinning, with an image in my head about a football player with pink grandma panties ’round his head. How funny would that be?
Albeit, it is offensive. I’ll lay off. (but still. That is so funny to me…)
Stirg d'Nahsif
May 11th, 2009
11:04 pm
Speaking of the Hawks, and I’m not going to redirect this blog to their attention, I discovered the starting five’s weakness. I once thought it was the lack of a big man (and in some cases, that is the case). But I thought, what are you going to do with two number one picks and Josh Smith. You got to start them all and Josh needs to rebound more. So, you can’t do much about that but bring in a serious big man, at back-up. That leaves the back court. Joe Johnson may have been off and he may have been inconsistent during that stretch; still, he’s an all-star and he create mismatches like it was going out of style. Can’t find too many 6′8″ two guards.
That leaves the most glaring weakness in Hawks defense, Mike Bibby. There is a reason why Coach yanked Bibby very early in the third quarter (almost, immediately after haltime). Mike Bibby, just like last year with Rajon Rondo, was beaten off the dribble on every opposing play. His offense and control of the game is veteran-like and essential to the team. Mike Woodson is a defensive coach, however, and Mike Bibby had ziltch.
We need a guard.
D3
May 11th, 2009
11:07 pm
WR & Stirg – great thing about this blog is that we can agree to disagree, respectfully. As JJ noted, the other blogs are simply ridiculous crap; especially the college ones. I got so sick of that “my teams rocks, your teams sucks” infantile crap that I just stopped looking. Ramen noodles for sure, but gotta go with classic Chicken. Big fan of shrimp too, but can never find it. I had some today as a matter of fact. Buur consumption has dropped considerably since having little man at the house. Still put away some, just 5 instead of 10.
Stirg – used to be a big-time heckler, depending on how many cold ones I took down, but have chilled it a little. After a nuclear meltdown with the CEO at the Falcons-Cowboys game a couple of years ago, the heckling has dropped.
WR – alright so see what you think of the following schedule. It seems that our post mini-camp buzz is starting to wear off a little. Let me know of any changes.
2009 Bird-Cage Division/Team Analysis & Final Standings Competition
-go through each division week-by-week
-start on a monday perhaps and analyze a different team each day
-analyze schedule, starters, possible wins/losses, draft picks, etc
-analyze a team each day mon-thurs, & friday-saturday can be our final standings prediction, which I will save
-predict where wins & losses will come, final standings, & division rank
Point System
-each correct win notches 1 point
-keep tally throughout the year
-winner gets bragging rights & we can throw in some extra spice if we like
WR’s analysis of each division/teams(mon – thurs):
-Break down the teams, division by division, where you think they will finish & why, give your take on what they need to do for things to go right in order to succeed, give your thoughts on what they are missing in order to get to the big game, predict their record, position in the division and playoff finish if you believe they will make it.
Schedule
5/11 – 5/17 = AFC West
5/18 – 5/24 = AFC North
5/25 – 5/31 = AFC East
6/1 – 6/7 = AFC South
6/8 – 6/14 = NFC West
6/15 – 6/21 = NFC East
6/22 – 6/28 = NFC North
6/29 – 7/5 = NFC South
Final records/standings for each team due by the following sunday at noon
WR – let me know what you think, what we need to change/add/alter. Hopefully, we can keep the Football Mojo strong here in the ‘Cage during the dry spell, but I know we’ll lose a few if we’re not Falcons all the time.
D3
May 11th, 2009
11:09 pm
Blog Grendel has escaped and is on the loose for some good posts!
WR & Stirg – great thing about this blog is that we can agree to disagree, respectfully. As JJ noted, the other blogs are simply ridiculous crap; especially the college ones. I got so sick of that “my teams rocks, your teams sucks” infantile crap that I just stopped looking. Ramen noodles for sure, but gotta go with classic Chicken. Big fan of shrimp too, but can never find it. I had some today as a matter of fact. Buur consumption has dropped considerably since having little man at the house. Still put away some, just 5 instead of 10.
Stirg – used to be a big-time heckler, depending on how many cold ones I took down, but have chilled it a little. After a nuclear meltdown with the CEO at the Falcons-Cowboys game a couple of years ago, the heckling has dropped.
D3
May 11th, 2009
11:10 pm
WR – alright so see what you think of the following schedule. It seems that our post mini-camp buzz is starting to wear off a little. Let me know of any changes.
2009 Bird-Cage Division/Team Analysis & Final Standings Competition
-go through each division week-by-week
-start on a monday perhaps and analyze a different team each day
-analyze schedule, starters, possible wins/losses, draft picks, etc
-analyze a team each day mon-thurs, & friday-saturday can be our final standings prediction, which I will save
-predict where wins & losses will come, final standings, & division rank
Point System
-each correct win notches 1 point
-keep tally throughout the year
-winner gets bragging rights & we can throw in some extra spice if we like
WR’s analysis of each division/teams(mon – thurs):
-Break down the teams, division by division, where you think they will finish & why, give your take on what they need to do for things to go right in order to succeed, give your thoughts on what they are missing in order to get to the big game, predict their record, position in the division and playoff finish if you believe they will make it.
Schedule
5/11 – 5/17 = AFC West
5/18 – 5/24 = AFC North
5/25 – 5/31 = AFC East
6/1 – 6/7 = AFC South
6/8 – 6/14 = NFC West
6/15 – 6/21 = NFC East
6/22 – 6/28 = NFC North
6/29 – 7/5 = NFC South
Final records/standings for each team due by the following sunday at noon
WR – let me know what you think, what we need to change/add/alter. Hopefully, we can keep the Football Mojo strong here in the ‘Cage during the dry spell, but I know we’ll lose a few if we’re not Falcons all the time.
D3
May 11th, 2009
11:11 pm
These technical issues on this site drive me absolutely insane. I’ve had like 4 posts in a row eaten. Gone. Kaput.
GDWTF?
D3
May 11th, 2009
11:12 pm
ok
D3
May 11th, 2009
11:14 pm
Attempt #5
WR – alright so see what you think of the following schedule. It seems that our post mini-camp buzz is starting to wear off a little. Let me know of any changes.
2009 Bird-Cage Division/Team Analysis & Final Standings Competition
-go through each division week-by-week
-start on a monday perhaps and analyze a different team each day
-analyze schedule, starters, possible wins/losses, draft picks, etc
-analyze a team each day mon-thurs, & friday-saturday can be our final standings prediction, which I will save
-predict where wins & losses will come, final standings, & division rank
Point System
-each correct win notches 1 point
-keep tally throughout the year
-winner gets bragging rights
WR’s analysis of each division/teams(mon – thurs):
-Break down the teams, division by division, where you think they will finish & why, give your take on what they need to do for things to go right in order to succeed, give your thoughts on what they are missing in order to get to the big game, predict their record, position in the division and playoff finish if you believe they will make it.
Schedule
5/11 – 5/17 = AFC West
5/18 – 5/24 = AFC North
5/25 – 5/31 = AFC East
6/1 – 6/7 = AFC South
6/8 – 6/14 = NFC West
6/15 – 6/21 = NFC East
6/22 – 6/28 = NFC North
6/29 – 7/5 = NFC South
Final records/standings for each team due by the following sunday at noon
WR – let me know what you think, what we need to change/add/alter. Hopefully, we can keep the Football Mojo strong here in the ‘Cage during the dry spell, but I know we’ll lose a few if we’re not Falcons all the time.
D3
May 11th, 2009
11:30 pm
Since we’re on a shortened week how’s this for this week
Tuesday – Broncos
Wednesday – Chargers
Thursday – Chiefs
Friday – Raiders
Saturday/Sunday – Final AFC West Predictions
DrJ
May 11th, 2009
11:49 pm
Cutter: great comments with specifics about the players. Didn’t see anything from DOL, so I guess you are taking over. Keep it up.
WR
May 11th, 2009
11:55 pm
D3, sounds good to me. Hopefully we can get things amped up, some hawks fans probably will be joining the crew soon since the Hawks just got swept.
Big Ray, join in the post,look at D3 post to get an overview. We know you work late so most of us will be sleep by the time you post, but your football knowledge has been right on and we always welcome different opinions.
Where is Seminole Warrior, been a while since we heard from him. D3, I miss the draft countdown, maybe you should consider starting a training camp count.
As Nookah would say, Nuff Respect everytime, now its bedtime.
D3
May 12th, 2009
12:21 am
WR – alright so we’ll get it cranked up tomorrow. Probably take a little while to get going but it should be fun. Great idea. Seminole had to go up and see his son off for duty over the weekend.
And on that note………
80 DAYS AND COUNTING TO TRAINING CAMP!!!!!!
jason
May 12th, 2009
7:01 am
Having a nice day dream about some girl and panties until someone mentioned Grandma (UGH). Seriusly though, I frequent alot of blogs on the AJC. I look at UGA’s page daily. I want facts, info, ans opinions from not only the journalist such as DOL, Chip Touers, and the such, but from intelligent and Passionate football fans. I’ll admit, I am a Georgia Homer. If it is sports related and Georgia related then I’m there. UGA is my #1 love. Don’t get upset guys, the Falcons are a real close #2. I even gave Gatorzone a compliment yesterday. I love my teams, but i try not to take it to seriously. Now back to my original point. It is refreshing that I can go to a blog and read about one of my favorite teams. Get updated information, and very well thought out analysis/ opinions from fans who are just as passionate about the same team. A place to go without having to read past all the immature post bashing your/their team behavior. A place where you can debate; hell even argue different opinions and still leave it in the blog and go drink a beer cyber style when you are done. I am beyond extactic that I found this site to achieve all these objectives. Keep up the good work Fellas. This is gonna be a hell of a season, and one hell of a ride along the way to back to back… no not winning seasons; rather play off visits.
D3
May 12th, 2009
7:07 am
Good Tuesday A.M. Fellow Bird-Cager’s! One of the most enjoyable lines from my favorite sitcom Seinfeld, “Monday has a feel, Wednesday’s hump-day, & Thursday starts the weekend. Tuesday has no feel.” So our mini-camp buzz has seemed to finally wear off which means all our loyal Bird-Cager’s are taking a hiatus, right? H— NO!!!!!
We’ve created and maintained an extraordinary community here in the ‘Cage “talking intelligent Football with cool fans in a respectful manner.” So through many ideas generated here in the ‘Cage (WR, JJ, Ken Strick, etc.) we got plenty of Football to discuss through the drought that has finally settled over us. Here’s the idea and reasoning behind them……
We have roughly 11 weeks until the 2009 Atlanta Falcons Training Camp starts on August 1st. We’ll get some tidbits here and there from the OTA’s, but in general Falcons and NFL information, updates, and tidbits will have evaporated. So we gotta get creative to keep the Football Mojo going. Many of our ‘Cagers will lose some interest since its not Falcons talk all the time. But for Football junkies like many of us, football talk, predictions, and competitions are way more enjoyable than many other sports talk.
So here’s the proposal/idea from WR on getting through the Football drought. Similar to the Mock Draft Competition we held, we are creating a Division-by-Division/Team Analysis & Final Standings Competition described WR as the following:
2009 Bird-Cage Division/Team Analysis & Final Standings Competition
-go through each division week-by-week
-start on a monday perhaps and analyze a different team each day
-analyze schedule, starters, possible wins/losses, draft picks, etc
-analyze a team each day mon-thurs, & friday-saturday can be our final standings prediction, which I will save
-predict where wins & losses will come, final standings, & division rank
This will not only keep the Falcons/Football Mojo going here in the Bird-Cage, but also help to gradually build the excitement, while analyzing each team in the NFL and competing in a friendly competition.
Scoring is based on the following:
Point System
-each correct win notches 1 point
-I will save the predictions throughout the summer
-keep tally throughout the year
-winner gets bragging rights
Weekly Schedule:
5/11 – 5/17 = AFC West
5/18 – 5/24 = AFC North
5/25 – 5/31 = AFC East
6/1 – 6/7 = AFC South
6/8 – 6/14 = NFC West
6/15 – 6/21 = NFC East
6/22 – 6/28 = NFC North
6/29 – 7/5 = NFC South
This week:
Tuesday – Broncos
Wednesday – Chargers
Thursday – Chiefs
Friday – Raiders
Saturday/Sunday – Final AFC West Predictions
Alright so let’s hear it. Any changes/additions/alterations/suggestions to the competition?
Don’t want to seem like I’m trying to dominate the blog or anything, just love what we’ve started here in the Bird-Cage community and want to see it continue to flourish through this dry-spell.
D3
May 12th, 2009
7:12 am
jason – you’re the man brother! I knew there was a reason I liked you. Two favorite loves: Dawgs and Falcons. I couldn’t agree with you more. This blog is pretty amazing and is my favorite hobby. It’s even replaced Madden as my fav, which is saying A LOT. Yeah, I can’t even hardly read the UGA blog anymore because thats all it is: non-sensical, irrational, infantile arguments. Team bashing crap. Couldn’t agree more. Great to have you in the ‘Cage my friend. On a side note, little worried about our Dawgs if that spring game was any indication on offense. Have no idea who’ll be our RB, only have 6 WR’s on scholarship, and lets pray our defense improves. We’ll see.
jason
May 12th, 2009
7:20 am
A couple of thoughts on the ATL. Kelly, I think will not make the team. I do however think ke will be on the practice team. The talent is their; however the boy needs to eat some of GranMa’s cooking. Look at it in the way that this will be a red shirt year for him.
Nice to see Brown running hard. recovered from injuey.
Snelling looking more like a FB everyday. Not a bad option in short yardage situations where you have the run/pass option.
Norwood apparently was all the rave at practice. Would love to see him break loose this year. Would like to see apackage with him and Turner both in the backfield together.
I want some info on how the OL is looking. We had a good line last year considering it was susposed to be the worst line in football. Are they improving even more? Who are the projected starters? Who are the 2 deep?
Thanks guys for all the info.
JJ
May 12th, 2009
7:23 am
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/peter_king/05/10/may11/index.html
Mornin’ Falcon Nation – Peter King is the top NFL writer, IMHO. Every monday he writes – MMQ: monday morning quarterback. It’s very good.
This week he ranks all 32 teams, with a little paragraph about each.
Although I beleive we’re a top 10, maybee top 5, here’s how he breaks down the nfc south:
11 – ATL (all depends on D, offense a powerhouse)
18 – CAR (lost faith in delhom)
24 – NO (no D)
26 – TB (rebuilding)
Unca' Bob
May 12th, 2009
7:54 am
Y’all ain’t gonna believe this. I clicked on D-Led this morning and got redirected to a Victoria’s Secret blog. They were pullin’ panties up, they were puttin’ panties on their heads, and some even had their panties in a wad…Sarah B, dont look darlin’. cutter & Ed: are we allowed to say “[gizflammin']” in panty blog? LOLOL!! Really some good stuff. I started laughing so hard, my wife came into the den to see if I was OK. She thought I was having a heart attack…
cutter & ED,
That is the info’ we all come here for. Thanx
D3,
Sometimes I have a hard time reading anagrams. GDWTF, not a problem. I feel your frustration.
jason
May 12th, 2009
8:01 am
D3 we might have to see about starting up a new and improved DAWG blog, but this is the Falcons here… I play Madden and NCAA; well used to. Now I spend time looking for updates here. If my boss new what I was doing at work when the work is slow. You know the military, if work is slow they will find something for you to do. Anyway, I’ll be off and on throughout the day checking things out. Later for now.
D3
May 12th, 2009
8:17 am
2009 Bird-Cage Division/Team Analysis & Final Standings Competition
Weekly Division: AFC West
Today’s Team: Denver Broncos
Bronco’s 2009 Schedule
1 Sep 13 DEN @ CIN
2 Sep 20 CLE @ DEN
3 Sep 27 DEN @ OAK
4 Oct 04 DAL @ DEN
5 Oct 11 NE @ DEN
6 Oct 19 DEN @ SD
7 Bye
8 Nov 01 DEN @ BAL
9 Nov 09 PIT @ DEN
10 Nov 15 DEN @ WAS
11 Nov 22 SD @ DEN
12 Nov 26 NYG @ DEN
13 Dec 06 DEN @ KC
14 Dec 13 DEN @ IND
15 Dec 20 OAK @ DEN
16 Dec 27 DEN @ PHI
17 Jan 03 KC @ DEN
Projected Starters(Best Available)
Offense
QB – Kyle Orton
FB – Peyton Hillis
RB – Correll Buckhalter/Knowshon Moreno/JJ Arrington
TE – Tony Scheffler
WR – Brandon Marshall
WR – Eddie Royal
LT – Ryan Clady
LG – Ben Hamilton
C – Casey Wiegmann
RG – Chris Kuper
RT – Ryan Harris
Defense (3-4)
NT – Marcus Thomas
DE – Robert Ayers
DE – Jarvis Moss
OLB – Boss Bailey
ILB – DJ Williams
ILB – Andra Davis
OLB – Mario Hagan?
CB – Champ Bailey
CB – Josh Bell/Alphonso Smith
SS – Brian Dawkins
FS – Renaldo Hill/Darcel McBath
K – Matt Prater
P – Brett Kern
So there you have it. Let’s hear it about the Broncos described with the following:
-analyze schedule, starters, possible wins/losses, draft picks, etc
-analyze a team each day mon-thurs, & friday-saturday can be our final standings prediction, which I will save
-predict where wins & losses will come, final standings, & division rank
JohnWaynesworld
May 12th, 2009
8:30 am
This is what I like about this team:
Asked about his new playmate Tony Gonzalez, Ryan pointed to the field, where practice had technically ended. “You see six guys still out there, and four are doing interviews,” Ryan said. “But those two are working. [Indeed, Gonzalez and another Falcon were hitting a blocking sled.] He’s teaching young guys how to work. It’s not by chance — there’s a reason he’s the greatest tight end of all time. He’s a huge pickup for us.”
This wasn’t staged, it was real. I am digging the honesty in this bunch. And I am really liking all the Falcon fans that are on this blog! We have many personalities on these pages and all are straight up positive fans!
So D3, today is the Denver Broncos day? OK…
Denver is in a bad situation that can only get better if A) Knowshon blows up and has a 1500+ yard season, AND B) Kyle Orton has a 2 to 1 ratio of TD passes/INT’s. This is not an “or” situation. Both of these has to happen. There is no way the D is going to get well for at least a couple of more years, whether through drafts or FA signings or both. Additionally, Denver’s schedule is almost as tough as the Falcons. The Broncos have at one point, in order: DAL, NE, SD, (bye), BAL, PIT, WAS, SD & NYG. Then they have toward the end of the season two away games at IND and at PHI.
I’d give them a puncher’s chance to win the AFC West if Knowshon delivers and Orton shines. Otherwise, I’ll say they don’t even break .500 this year.
TheManMike
May 12th, 2009
8:45 am
Thanks Cutter and ED – yous the mens….
I like the article on JA – Nice to know that he KNOWS the fans sentiments, even though they dont matter much on the surface, you know they matter inside….I think we see a change in him this season. If he really has been working out extra hard and all – then we should see some real progress. If not, then im sorry for him….
Go Birds.
jason
May 12th, 2009
8:49 am
JohnWaynesworld, I agree. From where I am sitting I am seeing .500. That is a brutal stretcg of games around the bye. The DL looks really young.I’m not buying the LBs either. At this point you have to say the Boss is a bust and injury prone. On offense, where orton will not get you beat, he doesn’t have an impressive skill set to get you wins. Denver is going to have to run the ball. I don’t see much sustained success, especially against the supreme teams in the AFC. As musch as I would like to see Moreno with 1500 yds. I son’t see it happening. Lucky to break 1000 and 5TDs. Defenses will line up to stop the run and dare Orton to beat them throwing.
D3
May 12th, 2009
8:51 am
I’ll start us off:
I’m going to try and be objective as humanly possible because my personal feeling will be to root against the Broncos solely to see Josh McDaniels and his arrogant hubris fail miserably. No first year coach, maybe in history, has the light shining brighter on him than McDaniels. Even though Cutler may share some blame, the fault ultimately lies with McDaniels for even considering trading his best player. Young, Pro-Bowl, Franchise QB’s are hard to come by and because of his arrogance, Cutler is in Chicago. Cutler absolutely carried the Broncos last year, as we here in the ATL can attest. Without him, they lose 2, 3, or more games last year. Enter Kyle Orton.
The offense may be ok with McDaniels and Orton(who is no Brady and didn’t tutor under the “system” for years like Cassell) but their running game is a hot mess. They have like 8 rb’s on their roster this year, signing 4 in the off-season before they drafted Moreno. As a UGA grad and fan, I can say that Moreno seemed to buy his own BS this year, as much of the rest of the team did. As much as I love him, he was wearing his OWN shirt on draft day. Ridiculous. They’re transitioning away from the zone blocking which won’t be easy. Brandon Marshall is suspended for at least 3 games, maybe more.
Defense got upgraded a little with Robert Ayers, Brian Dawkins, & Alphonso Smith. Ayers had one good year at Tenn and we know about the development time of DE’s. Their LB corps is in total disarray. Nate Webster and Jamie Winborn gone. DJ Williams moving to ILB and I have no clue who will start on the outside. Besides Dawkins and Champ Bailey, don’t know who will be starting in the secondary. Their draft strategy was scattered and haphazard.
1 Sep 13 DEN @ CIN (Win)
2 Sep 20 CLE @ DEN (Win)
3 Sep 27 DEN @ OAK (Win)
4 Oct 04 DAL @ DEN (Loss)
5 Oct 11 NE @ DEN (Loss)
6 Oct 19 DEN @ SD (Loss)
7 Bye
8 Nov 01 DEN @ BAL (Loss)
9 Nov 09 PIT @ DEN (Loss)
10 Nov 15 DEN @ WAS (Loss)
11 Nov 22 SD @ DEN (Loss)
12 Nov 26 NYG @ DEN (Loss)
13 Dec 06 DEN @ KC (Win)
14 Dec 13 DEN @ IND (Loss)
15 Dec 20 OAK @ DEN (Win)
16 Dec 27 DEN @ PHI (Loss)
17 Jan 03 KC @ DEN (Win)
Final: 6 -10
Comment: Great job getting rid of Shanahan and McDaniels seat is ablaze!
richbrave
May 12th, 2009
8:53 am
Hey ED:
See you’re giving props to my man AARON KELLY. I was boosting him to the REDSKINS, but they don’t know what they’re doing and passed on him. I think he’ll develop into an excellent receiver. How’d my man SIDBURY do?
D3
May 12th, 2009
8:53 am
2009 Denver Broncos
I’m going to try and be objective as humanly possible because my personal feeling will be to root against the Broncos solely to see Josh McDaniels and his arrogant hubris fail miserably. No first year coach, maybe in history, has the light shining brighter on him than McDaniels. Even though Cutler may share some blame, the fault ultimately lies with McDaniels for even considering trading his best player. Young, Pro-Bowl, Franchise QB’s are hard to come by and because of his arrogance, Cutler is in Chicago. Cutler absolutely carried the Broncos last year, as we here in the ATL can attest. Without him, they lose 2, 3, or more games last year. Enter Kyle Orton.
The offense may be ok with McDaniels and Orton(who is no Brady and didn’t tutor under the “system” for years like Cassell) but their running game is a hot mess. They have like 8 rb’s on their roster this year, signing 4 in the off-season before they drafted Moreno. As a UGA grad and fan, I can say that Moreno seemed to buy his own BS this year, as much of the rest of the team did. As much as I love him, he was wearing his OWN shirt on draft day. Ridiculous. They’re transitioning away from the zone blocking which won’t be easy. Brandon Marshall is suspended for at least 3 games, maybe more.
Defense got upgraded a little with Robert Ayers, Brian Dawkins, & Alphonso Smith. Ayers had one good year at Tenn and we know about the development time of DE’s. Their LB corps is in total disarray. Nate Webster and Jamie Winborn gone. DJ Williams moving to ILB and I have no clue who will start on the outside. Besides Dawkins and Champ Bailey, don’t know who will be starting in the secondary. Their draft strategy was scattered and haphazard.
1 Sep 13 DEN @ CIN (Win)
2 Sep 20 CLE @ DEN (Win)
3 Sep 27 DEN @ OAK (Win)
4 Oct 04 DAL @ DEN (Loss)
5 Oct 11 NE @ DEN (Loss)
6 Oct 19 DEN @ SD (Loss)
7 Bye
8 Nov 01 DEN @ BAL (Loss)
9 Nov 09 PIT @ DEN (Loss)
10 Nov 15 DEN @ WAS (Loss)
11 Nov 22 SD @ DEN (Loss)
12 Nov 26 NYG @ DEN (Loss)
13 Dec 06 DEN @ KC (Win)
14 Dec 13 DEN @ IND (Loss)
15 Dec 20 OAK @ DEN (Win)
16 Dec 27 DEN @ PHI (Loss)
17 Jan 03 KC @ DEN (Win)
Final: 6 -10
Comment: Great job getting rid of Shanahan and McDaniels seat is ablaze!
D3
May 12th, 2009
8:53 am
I’m going to try and be objective as humanly possible because my personal feeling will be to root against the Broncos solely to see Josh McDaniels and his arrogant hubris fail miserably. No first year coach, maybe in history, has the light shining brighter on him than McDaniels. Even though Cutler may share some blame, the fault ultimately lies with McDaniels for even considering trading his best player. Young, Pro-Bowl, Franchise QB’s are hard to come by and because of his arrogance, Cutler is in Chicago. Cutler absolutely carried the Broncos last year, as we here in the ATL can attest. Without him, they lose 2, 3, or more games last year. Enter Kyle Orton.
D3
May 12th, 2009
8:58 am
The offense may be ok with McDaniels and Orton(who is no Brady and didn’t tutor under the “system” for years like Cassel) but their running game is a hot mess. They have like 8 rb’s on their roster this year, signing 4 in the off-season before they drafted Moreno. As a UGA grad and fan, I can say that Moreno seemed to buy his own BS this year, as much of the rest of the team did. As much as I love him, he was wearing his OWN shirt on draft day. Ridiculous. They’re transitioning away from the zone blocking which won’t be easy. Brandon Marshall is suspended for at least 3 games, maybe more.
D3
May 12th, 2009
9:01 am
The offense may be ok with McDaniels and Orton(who is no Brady and didn’t learn under the “system” for years like Cassel) but their running game is a hot mess. They have like 8 rb’s on their roster this year, signing 4 in the off-season before they drafted Moreno. As a UGA grad and fan, I can say that Moreno seemed to buy his own BS this year, as much of the rest of the team did. As much as I love him, he was wearing his OWN shirt on draft day. Ridiculous. They’re transitioning away from the zone blocking which won’t be easy. Brandon Marshall is suspended for at least 3 games, maybe more.
D3
May 12th, 2009
9:03 am
trying to post the rest of my entry. i can refresh 5 times in a row and it will go from 181 comments to 183 comments, back to 182 comments, on to 181 comments, and back up to 183 comments. good lord these technical issues are a trip.
D3
May 12th, 2009
9:04 am
blog monster alert!
D3
May 12th, 2009
9:05 am
Attempt #6
The offense may be ok with McDaniels and Orton(who is no Brady and didn’t tutor under the “system” for years like Cassell) but their running game is a hot mess. They have like 8 rb’s on their roster this year, signing 4 in the off-season before they drafted Moreno. As a UGA grad and fan, I can say that Moreno seemed to buy his own BS this year, as much of the rest of the team did. As much as I love him, he was wearing his OWN shirt on draft day. Ridiculous. They’re transitioning away from the zone blocking which won’t be easy. Brandon Marshall is suspended for at least 3 games, maybe more.
Defense got upgraded a little with Robert Ayers, Brian Dawkins, & Alphonso Smith. Ayers had one good year at Tenn and we know about the development time of DE’s. Their LB corps is in total disarray. Nate Webster and Jamie Winborn gone. DJ Williams moving to ILB and I have no clue who will start on the outside. Besides Dawkins and Champ Bailey, don’t know who will be starting in the secondary. Their draft strategy was scattered and haphazard.
1 Sep 13 DEN @ CIN (Win)
2 Sep 20 CLE @ DEN (Win)
3 Sep 27 DEN @ OAK (Win)
4 Oct 04 DAL @ DEN (Loss)
5 Oct 11 NE @ DEN (Loss)
6 Oct 19 DEN @ SD (Loss)
7 Bye
8 Nov 01 DEN @ BAL (Loss)
9 Nov 09 PIT @ DEN (Loss)
10 Nov 15 DEN @ WAS (Loss)
11 Nov 22 SD @ DEN (Loss)
12 Nov 26 NYG @ DEN (Loss)
13 Dec 06 DEN @ KC (Win)
14 Dec 13 DEN @ IND (Loss)
15 Dec 20 OAK @ DEN (Win)
16 Dec 27 DEN @ PHI (Loss)
Stirg d'Nahsif
May 12th, 2009
9:05 am
I’m not feeling the Broncos this year. After the snap, the QB is the first person, in most cast, to touch the ball; and considering Kyle Orton didn’t take Chicago to that next level, he’s not going to be the saviour for Denver either. Still, situations are different with each team and the Denver Broncos offensive line can even make DJ Shockley look like a Pro-Bowler.
Their draft scored a strong “B” for me. I’m not too familiar with 3-4 defenses but something tells me that their draft and free agent acquistions will put their defense at the very top of NFL rankings. Do you all remember that year when Denver would load every defensive personnel on the line and play man-to-man on the outside? I think it may have been called “46″ defense. Well, I don’t think they can pull it off, this year, with smart offenses like Atlanta and New Orleans; but I do think that they have the type of personnel that’s very similiar to that All-Star defense they once played with. Ayers is a monster coming of the line; and with an all-star defensive backfield (Bailey, Smith, Dawkisn, Hill, McBath), its going to be very difficult to pass on the Broncos. They will lose more games than they will win (because of a tough schedule) but the difference in points will be in single digits and low scoring.
Speaking of their schedule, they start out against weak and questionable teams (Cin, Cle. and Oak) but they follow up with three tough teams before their bye week. They should end up 3-3 before week seven; afterwhich, they have the most brutal schedule in all of football (BAL, PIT, WAS, SD, NYG, KC, IND and PHI). OUCH! That schedule will either end your season early or make you favorites for Super Bowl contention. I think they’ll fold and watch the first round of playoffs on television.
D3, I have a suggestion, my friend, that I think you’ll find more participants with. We have 16 games this season, correct? Subtract three games (because each team plays divisional foes, twice). That leaves the fact that we play 13 different teams. Instead of analyzing each division of the NFL and teams that are irrelevant to the Falcons this season, why not evaluate the thirteen different teams we have to play in the upcoming season. By all means, keep your strategy intact (analyzing schedules, starters, win/losses, draft pics, etc.) but lets do it for teams we look forward to playing. Scoring can be accomplished in different manners. We can either wait until the season and evaluate each game to see how we fared; or, we can grade, before season begins, based on the number of those that agree with your game call. This way, I think you’ll find more Falcon fans interested in participating with analyzing opponents, than you would analyzing teams that we don’t play.
Just a suggestion. You know me; I’ll participate either way.
D3
May 12th, 2009
9:05 am
apologies if a re-post
Defense got upgraded a little with Robert Ayers, Brian Dawkins, & Alphonso Smith. Ayers had one good year at Tenn and we know about the development time of DE’s. Their LB corps is in total disarray. Nate Webster and Jamie Winborn gone. DJ Williams moving to ILB and I have no clue who will start on the outside. Besides Dawkins and Champ Bailey, don’t know who will be starting in the secondary. Their draft strategy was scattered and haphazard.
1 Sep 13 DEN @ CIN (Win)
2 Sep 20 CLE @ DEN (Win)
3 Sep 27 DEN @ OAK (Win)
4 Oct 04 DAL @ DEN (Loss)
5 Oct 11 NE @ DEN (Loss)
6 Oct 19 DEN @ SD (Loss)
7 Bye
8 Nov 01 DEN @ BAL (Loss)
9 Nov 09 PIT @ DEN (Loss)
10 Nov 15 DEN @ WAS (Loss)
11 Nov 22 SD @ DEN (Loss)
12 Nov 26 NYG @ DEN (Loss)
13 Dec 06 DEN @ KC (Win)
14 Dec 13 DEN @ IND (Loss)
15 Dec 20 OAK @ DEN (Win)
16 Dec 27 DEN @ PHI (Loss)
17 Jan 03 KC @ DEN (Win)
Final: 7 -9
Comment: Great job getting rid of Shanahan and McDaniels seat is ablaze!
D3
May 12th, 2009
9:12 am
Stirg – right in line with you brother. Since we have a total of 11 weeks until training camp and 14 weeks until 1st pre-season game, we will have 3 weeks between the start of camp and pre-season; so I was thinking we could do one game every 2 days which would lead us right into the start of the season after our division competition.
Broncos record correction: 6 – 10; maybe too much wishful thinking, but we’ll see. Name any other Belichick clones that worked: Crennel(fired), Mangini(fired), Weis(’bout to be fired).
ok, nuff posts from me. its time for the rest of the Bird-Cage……
81 DAYS AND COUNTING TO 2009 ATLANTA FALCONS TRAINING CAMP!
Stirg d'Nahsif
May 12th, 2009
9:17 am
…and this “panties” thing. I admitted that I may have been a little overboard. Still, I cannot get the image out of my head and it is hilarious. I, too, find myself laughing uncontrolably, Unca’ Bob (like right now). Yet, I discovered lastnight that my words may have been offensive to some people and I don’t won’t to disrupt the comradery that has developed amongst us, in this Cage. So, I’ll lay back and maybe redirect my heckling on some other blog.
In the meantime, get that image out of your head. We don’t want to imagine our offense (or defense) lining up with panties on their heads. I thought about it and it won’t work during regular season. Laugh it off, fellows. Its over.
jason
May 12th, 2009
9:23 am
D3, I am going to do something for you. I will give you a DAWG breakdown this weekend. Do it in your format. Hopefully the Falcon fans wonn’t mind. I also like Stirg d’Nahsif’s idea. That should be the last fix we need to bring in ATL2009.
JohnWaynesworld
May 12th, 2009
10:02 am
D3, I have met the blog monster before and have felt his “I have just deleted everything you just said” breath. I call him The Epiphany Eater. He has gobbled up some of my best stuff, especially on that “other” impersonal, nationwide sports blog that has all the rabid Ain’ts fans. Good for them but there is no continuity in the conversations.
Jason, I like the Dawg breakdown (being a Alum and Herschel’s neighbor way back when) but we are all Falcon friends and we don’t want to bring in the wacky ones from all other sides into our happy camp. Just a thought.
jason
May 12th, 2009
10:16 am
JohnWaynesworld, will respect the blog. see where you are coming from.
Sarah B
May 12th, 2009
10:45 am
Well JJ beat me to it I was going to post the Peter King info. I laughed pretty hard at how pished off the Carolina fans were gonna be when they read that article. HA HA HA!!!!
Unca' Bob
May 12th, 2009
10:46 am
Denver-
With all the Coaching changes on both sides of the ball as well as scheme changes, every player has to learn anew. There are going to be attitudinal problems over Cutter,i.e., “He’s my man and they traded him” to “I’m glad the cry baby is gone”. Conflict is not a good formula for winning. If they have a good year…5-11.
WR
May 12th, 2009
10:49 am
Good morning Gents,
First order of business Unca’bob, excellent post about Victoria Secret, cracked my side reading it this morning. I’m probably the one who detered Stirg from making the panty comments, I didn’t realize he was just heckling and not issuing personal attacks, so I guess you could say I have to get mine out of a wad.
Stirg, good idea on analyzing each team, with the other idea, I just figured it would be more interesting to see what actual people think beyond the so-called experts.
Now on to my Denver analysis,
This is a rather difficult team to figure out. On the one hand you have one of the best offenses in the league with all the major components in place to succeed except running back. Then you trade a successful good quarterback when your defense is what probably kept you out of Superbowl contention. Now you go get the running back you needed, draft good players to upgrade your defense but you have a quarterback competition between Kyle Orton and Chris Simms, two players who don’t exactly strike fear in any opponent. You have a rookie head coach who believes he’s bringing the Patriot system to a new team but as I recall the Patriot system seems to function best when it involves Bill Belichick. Denver begins the season with three cake walk games, but given that its the NFL, you never really know if any games will be a cake walk. After the first three games the Broncos face the NFL equivalent of the Matrix. The team begins to struggle your fans and critics are second guessing every move you make and are out like roaches because your non-experienced very young head football coach put your team under tremendous scrutiny not afforded most other teams.
Chemistry and the lack of it will be a major issue for this team. The defense is going to be very young, but talented, the offense remains intact and add quality at running back, but its going to be hard to buy into Josh McDaniels system considering the moves he has made in the offseason. After week three when the s*it starts to hit the fan I expect the chemistry to become volatile and with Kyle Orton as your leader I see no stablizing force to point the ship in the right direction.
Prediction
5-11-Talent is there even with Orton as the QB but decision making of the rookie head coach will come into question both externally and internally,once the season gets tougher, sad to say it but players who are paid millions will quit on the team because chemistry is lacking and no real belief in the coach exist.
Unca' Bob
May 12th, 2009
11:16 am
Denver P.S.,
Didn’t one of their WR’s run afoul of the law during the off season?
JohnWaynesworld
May 12th, 2009
11:24 am
Good points WR. I guess we shall also see how Brian Dawkins performs as a player and a leader to bring cohesion to their patchwork defense (and of course how long Champ can be healthy and productive as a shut down guy).
I am not sold on this Ayers kid. If I recall, his resume is suspiciously like our own Jamaal Anderson’s.
Jason, I do think Knowshon will be breaking away for many, many yards this season. He will probably get off to a roaring start against the perennial wheel chocks of the AFC North, Cincinnati and Cleveland, and then get to outduel Mr. McFadden and that Al Davis defense the third week. So Knowshon should have about 500 yards by then. I will go way out on a limb (not) and also say that he gets 100+ in the Dallas game (in Denver-Game 4), so he could have 600 yards with two thirds of the season left.
Speculation…Free of charge!! lol
Don’t forget Denver plays OAK and KC twice! Yummy for RB’s!
JohnWaynesworld
May 12th, 2009
11:26 am
Dang monster.
jason
May 12th, 2009
11:27 am
Enter your comments here
Sarah B
May 12th, 2009
11:40 am
The poor situation in Denver leads me to believe theirs in 2009 could be very similur to ours in 2007. Not saying they got anywhere near the same shaft we got but… the makings are there. Star QB and coach cause a ruckus, QB disappers. New volitile head coach in place and the fans loved the old one (ok we didn’t love little Jimmy Mora but we didn’t believe in Petrino either) they are lucky the play the Raiders twice. New QB is questionable at best, Charger Fans are loving this mess. Suddenly McDaniels is looking a lot like Petrino to me. And that is not good.
FreeMikeVick
May 12th, 2009
12:05 pm
Strange…..The Falcons already had a YOUNGER pro bowl tight end on the roster, yet released him last year…..Why? Because he had the audicity to publicly support Mike Vick. You can’t pull the wool over my eyes.
Stirg d'Nahsif
May 12th, 2009
1:02 pm
D3, on a side note, I have a suggestion for that little future Falcon wide receiver you’ve been tending to for the past month. My field of study is psychology and, in my study, I learned of a technique called music psychology (specifically, musicology). In my work study, we’ve applied this technique to some veterans suffering from P.T.S.D.; the results are remarkable.
Anyway, last year I had my first (a hybrid-DE/LB, in the draft class of 2033) and I attempted this technique. Every chance you get, I suggest that you play some classical music around young D3. Try some early classical music from the Baroque period, like some Bach and some Handel; then, graduate into some Mozart and Haydn. I don’t know what kind of drug Mozart was on but he is the most intelligent human (besides King Solomon) I have ever studied. He does something with music that, to this day, has never been conceived. I’m a music enthusiast, so I can go on and on about this subject. I better stop here…
Still, try this technique (I find young stirg sleeps well with classical music) and You will be amazed with his development.
terrell barron
May 12th, 2009
1:12 pm
Brent Grimes starting???? Hell no!!! Owens shopuld win that job. At least
terrell barron
May 12th, 2009
1:13 pm
I meant, at least I hope he does.
Stirg d'Nahsif
May 12th, 2009
1:33 pm
Starting at the corners will be Chris Houston and Chevis Jackson (he’s earned the start). Owens will be the starting nickle back (the same role Jackson played last season). Brent Grimes is a good corner and he has paid his dues, as well. With the defensive scheme that Smitty n’em implemented, Grimes, Middleton and Owens will get a lot of playing time. Finally, we have depth. Don’t get caught up in “starter” titles. All 53 men will have a role.
jason
May 12th, 2009
1:37 pm
Stirg d’Nahsif, Are you saying something like a rotation for the CBs, ala smilar to a DL rotation ?
D3
May 12th, 2009
1:57 pm
Great Afternoon Bird-Cage Ladies and Gents! Our Bird-Cage Division/Team Analysis & Final Standings Competition is off and running and we gotta love keeping the Football Mojo going here in the ‘Cage. Got several of your entries, you can change them anytime, and don’t worry about not remembering your picks, because I am saving them in a folder marked Falcons on my computer.
2009 Bird-Cage Division/Team Analysis & Final Standings Competition
**Make sure you mark individual picks (who they defeat, who they lose to), so we can keep score when the regulary season rolls around. You can simply copy and paste the schedule below and mark each game with a W or L. I’ll save all the data.
Unca’ Bob
Broncos: 5 – 11
WR
Broncos: 5 – 11
D3
Broncos: 6 – 10
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Weekly Division: AFC West
Today’s Team: Denver Broncos
Bronco’s 2009 Schedule
1 Sep 13 DEN @ CIN
2 Sep 20 CLE @ DEN
3 Sep 27 DEN @ OAK
4 Oct 04 DAL @ DEN
5 Oct 11 NE @ DEN
6 Oct 19 DEN @ SD
7 Bye
8 Nov 01 DEN @ BAL
9 Nov 09 PIT @ DEN
10 Nov 15 DEN @ WAS
11 Nov 22 SD @ DEN
12 Nov 26 NYG @ DEN
13 Dec 06 DEN @ KC
14 Dec 13 DEN @ IND
15 Dec 20 OAK @ DEN
16 Dec 27 DEN @ PHI
17 Jan 03 KC @ DEN
Projected Starters(Best Available)
Offense
QB – Kyle Orton
FB – Peyton Hillis
RB – Correll Buckhalter/Knowshon Moreno/JJ Arrington
TE – Tony Scheffler
WR – Brandon Marshall
WR – Eddie Royal
LT – Ryan Clady
LG – Ben Hamilton
C – Casey Wiegmann
RG – Chris Kuper
RT – Ryan Harris
Defense (3-4)
NT – Marcus Thomas
DE – Robert Ayers
DE – Jarvis Moss
OLB – Boss Bailey
ILB – DJ Williams
ILB – Andra Davis
OLB – Mario Hagan?
CB – Champ Bailey
CB – Josh Bell/Alphonso Smith
SS – Brian Dawkins
FS – Renaldo Hill/Darcel McBath
K – Matt Prater
P – Brett Kern
So there you have it. Let’s hear it about the Broncos described with the following:
-analyze schedule, starters, possible wins/losses, draft picks, etc
-analyze a team each day mon-thurs, & friday-saturday can be our final standings prediction, which I will save
-predict where wins & losses will come, final standings, & division rank
Sarah B
May 12th, 2009
2:13 pm
Bronco’s 2009 Schedule
1 Sep 13 DEN @ CIN – W
2 Sep 20 CLE @ DEN – W
3 Sep 27 DEN @ OAK – W
4 Oct 04 DAL @ DEN – L
5 Oct 11 NE @ DEN – L
6 Oct 19 DEN @ SD – L (they are still mad this will be a big loss)
7 Bye
8 Nov 01 DEN @ BAL – L
9 Nov 09 PIT @ DEN – L
10 Nov 15 DEN @ WAS – L
11 Nov 22 SD @ DEN – L
12 Nov 26 NYG @ DEN – L
13 Dec 06 DEN @ KC – W
14 Dec 13 DEN @ IND – L
15 Dec 20 OAK @ DEN – W
16 Dec 27 DEN @ PHI – L
17 Jan 03 KC @ DEN – W
6-10
row3
May 12th, 2009
2:18 pm
200+ posts on this blog, you get a little behind and you spend your whole day reading just to get caught up. Question? DJ was QB3 last year, I think the third string QB does not count as a gameday roster spot, and used only in case of an injury. Does this make the player ineligible to play in situational offenses (such as the Wildcat).
JohnWaynesworld
May 12th, 2009
2:23 pm
I think our safeties will be better than most expect. When you increase the overall speed of the secondary like we did, the zone looks work much like the man to man, especially in the nickel. The opposing quarterback has much smaller windows to throw the ball and there is always help for star receivers. That is not to say we will always be sound because there will be rookies and 2nd year men out there. That’s where the front seven come into play. Our new “urgent” pass rush will force the action and I expect us to double our INT’s from last year (and that won’t be very hard).
JohnWaynesworld
May 12th, 2009
2:38 pm
And some early interceptions will give these young guys a world of confidence, much like it did for Chevis Jackson and Chris Houston last year. Ok maybe 20 INT’s is too much to ask for from these young guys but that’s the number I’m going with.
JohnWaynesworld
May 12th, 2009
2:40 pm
And some early interceptions will give these young guys a world of confidence, much like it did for Chevis Jackson and Chris Houston last year. Ok, maybe 20 is a bit much to ask for, but that is the number I’m going with.
JohnWaynesworld
May 12th, 2009
2:44 pm
friggin monster…
Stirg d'Nahsif
May 12th, 2009
2:58 pm
No, jason; I’m not suggesting a rotation at cornerback. I’m just saying that, in my unprofessional opinion, the starters at corner ought to be Chris Houston (because he started and played well last year) and Chevis Jackson (because he earned the right to start for his play last year). After that, we have very good depth with Von Hutchins and Grimes. Owens and Middleton should handle nickel and dime back roles. I referenced our defensive scheme, that will require all of the beforementioned players to participate. Everybody is going to play every sound with our scheme.
D3
May 12th, 2009
3:06 pm
Sarah B – got your picks. nice job.
Hate Alert – OMG, don’t be tempted to venture over to the injury blog. Vitriol, Hate, and Execration ay an all-time pitch. Its not DOL’s, so no need to even participate.
Sarah B
May 12th, 2009
3:16 pm
D3 – let me guess the topic? You know who?
Sarah B
May 12th, 2009
3:18 pm
JohnWW – it’s like the monster on Lost sometimes isn’t it???
Unca' Bob
May 12th, 2009
3:21 pm
D3,
I wish I would have come to the Cage first. I saw something new, and, wellll…you know the rest.
jason
May 12th, 2009
3:31 pm
Stirg d’Nahsif, I was thinking along the lines of keeping the starters fresh by not being afrais to play all the CBs. If you are on an NFL roster you should no doubt be able to play the position you were drafted for. Maybe not full time starter, but enough to keep the starters fresh. And that would include all positions, especially on the defensive side. Like you said, Houston and Jackson as starters with Hutchins and Grimes first in reserve. Then you have Owens at nickel, and Middleton backing up the nickel and playing the dime. Not arguing with you, just my ADHD prevented me from understanding your post.
Sarah B
May 12th, 2009
3:47 pm
D3 – I snuck a peek to see if I was right and I am. Let’s hope they never find us but if they do we vow not to take any bait as a group and just ignore them like they do not EXIST!
Stirg d'Nahsif
May 12th, 2009
3:52 pm
Ohhh, so its you that’s in favor of rotation. I’m just excited that we finally have depth at cornerback. Both Von Hutchins and Grimes have starting experience. So if anything goes wrong with the starters, we’re set (provide Houston and Jackson are the starters).
What you think about Owens? How do you like him? I’m not familiar, at all, with the kid; but I have noted the big buzz about him. Everybody is liking this kid at corner. During the draft, I had assumed that TD jumped on Owens in the third because Asher Allen was just taken by Minnesota. Now, reports are making me believe that TD had his eye on him all along.
Do y’all believe that TD would have taken Owens, in the third, if Asher Allen had been available?
jason
May 12th, 2009
3:59 pm
I do think it was Owens all the way. I read TD had been watching Owens for the past two years. That’s why I first questioned his ability to this year. With the depth being built on D, I see a mini rotation. Starters play the bulk, but have the ability to play Back ups to stay fresh. Also good on the job training. Have to always keep that salary cap in mind.
jason
May 12th, 2009
4:02 pm
row3, I believe that the third string QBin non roster on gameday. However, he can play. But if he plays, the first two QBs can not come back into the the D3 to see what he thinks.
jason
May 12th, 2009
4:08 pm
Stirg d’Nahsif, also, I am a big a DAWG Homer as there is, but if TD was looking at Owens for 2 years… As much as I wanted Asher in ATL, screw that. in TD I trust. and hopefully Asher will have a Champ type career; just not at Atlanta’s expense.
jason
May 12th, 2009
4:21 pm
row3, I believe that the third string QB is non roster on gameday. However, he can play. But if he plays, the first two QBs can not come back into play on that game day. I think that’s how it works. Might have to go to the man, D3.
jason
May 12th, 2009
4:22 pm
row3, sorry got hit by the blog monster…
row3
May 12th, 2009
4:36 pm
jason..Thanks, I bet you’re right on that, we’ll get D3’s input too.
jason
May 12th, 2009
4:42 pm
I really didn’t know the answer until a couple of days ago. I think I saw it on (ugh) ESPN. The topic was brought up concerning the “wildcat” formation in Miami, and how they would get Pat White involved.
Lil'Dave
May 12th, 2009
4:47 pm
Whats going on this afternoon Bird Cage? I’m going to take a guess here with the Bronco’s schedule and see if I cant nail there win/loss record for next season. I read all of your (bird cage gang) input on there draft and starters so I wont go in depth there because you guys already nailed it. Ok here I go.
1 Sep 13 DEN @ CIN -L- I’ll go with Cin on this one.. Better QB and O just feel it in my bones.
2 Sep 20 CLE @ DEN -W- I’ll give this on to Denver. Better prepared after losing to Cincy and its the home opener.
3 Sep 27 DEN @ OAK -W- Denver should win this one but if Oakland’s offense ever wakes up Denver could get embrassed.
4 Oct 04 DAL @ DEN -W- I hate Dallas enough said.
5 Oct 11 NE @ DEN -L- NE is just a way better team and I would give Denver a +10 pts they’d still lose this one.
6 Oct 19 DEN @ SD -L- SD has a balanced off/def and Merrmian will be waiting.
7 Bye
8 Nov 01 DEN @ BAL -L- Bal def’s can win games by itself, Denvers cant.
9 Nov 09 PIT @ DEN -L- There probably missing J-Cutler by now and the D probably isnt looking much better.
10 Nov 15 DEN @ WAS -L- Was run D will shine in this game.
11 Nov 22 SD @ DEN -W- Weather will help Denver and Knowshon will have his first 150+ yard game close but Denver pulls it out.
12 Nov 26 NYG @ DEN -L- NYG are just a better overall team top to bottom.
13 Dec 06 DEN @ KC -W- I’m just to unsure what KC is going to be working with at this point in the season.
14 Dec 13 DEN @ IND -L- Payton enough said.
15 Dec 20 OAK @ DEN -W- The best Denvers D has look all season.
16 Dec 27 DEN @ PHI -W- Dawkinsville is back in town!
17 Jan 03 KC @ DEN -L- KC just cant get right.
7 and 9 not to bad for trading your Franchise QB and losing to Cincy on opening day.
WR
May 12th, 2009
5:11 pm
Sarah B, you may not know it but I’m sure D3,Stirg,Nookah,Seminole, as well as many others remember when we worked hard to weed the bad apples out. Occasionally they reappear but we just don’t take the bait and they usually go away. Happened to my man Big Ray a couple weeks ago, he took the bait and realized you can never out do an idiot in an argument, but once you stop they tend to disappear.
Lil’Dave, though I have Denver going 5-11 your predictions look good. Now the win over Philly I don’t get, you have them beating Philly in Philly but the next week losing to KC at home. I understand the Dawkins motivation and any other year I could see him being a game changer in this game, but it would appear in my opinion that Philly has finally built an adequate offense around McNabb, the OL is tight, and if Maclin turns out to be half as good as he was in college the receivers will be straight.
jason
May 12th, 2009
5:24 pm
1 Sep 13 DEN @ CIN L, Bengals better than you think.
2 Sep 20 CLE @ DEN W, Same ol’ Browns
3 Sep 27 DEN @ OAK W, Ditto for the Raisers
4 Oct 04 DAL @ DEN W, Trouble in Dallas?
5 Oct 11 NE @ DEN L, Patriots, Anything else needed
6 Oct 19 DEN @ SD L, Strongest team in the AFC West
7 Bye
8 Nov 01 DEN @ BAL W, Bye week helps
9 Nov 09 PIT @ DEN L, Orton in trouble with fans
10 Nov 15 DEN @ WAS W, close one, Knoshown turned loose
11 Nov 22 SD @ DEN L, not good enough
12 Nov 26 NYG @ DEN W, Home field helps
13 Dec 06 DEN @ KC W, Don’t know
14 Dec 13 DEN @ IND L, Colts not done yet
15 Dec 20 OAK @ DEN W, still the Raiders
16 Dec 27 DEN @ PHI L, Phili tough at home
17 Jan 03 KC @ DEN L, I know, home game, but KC has direction by now.
I have them going 8-8; win one they shouldn’t. I don’t think Denver’s D will be to good this year. To young. Also Orton will not be able to take advantage of the WRs Denver has. Moreno will get a little over 1000 yds. Teams will stack the line with no fear of Orton.
D3
May 12th, 2009
6:30 pm
Great Early Tuesday Evening My Brothers & Sisters! So happy to see the Bird-Cage alive, rockin’, and exceeding all expectations….and this is supposed to be the dry spell? Almost 250 posts since Sunday afternoon? WOW. Great stuff. Getting some great responses on the Division Competition. To Football……..
Stirg – thanks a ton for the music advice for my little guy. I actually got that advice from my brother as well. He has 3 boys and used the same technique. I’ve been doing it from day 1 and it has been a huge help. We’re on a little Pachebel right now and gradually rise to some more artist. I’ve gotten into myself after listening to it. Thanks again man. Every little bit helps when raising a little guy.
row3 & jason – appreciate the props guys. You all have been rockin’ the insights hard here in the ‘Cage. From Jerry Markbreit at the Chicago Tribune:
“Each team is allowed to dress 45 players for each game, plus, a 46th man, providing he is designated as the third quarterback only. If this third quarterback enters the game during the first, second or third quarter, the first and second string quarterbacks are not allowed to return for the rest of the game. If the third quarterback enters during the fourth quarter, the other two quarterbacks may return to the game. This is a special rule that was put in about 10 years ago, and gives each team an insurance policy for quarterback injury.”
Sarah B. and Unca’ Bob – what’s up guys and gals. Yeah, I took a peek at that trash for like 3 seconds and almost vomited in my mouth. Its amazing that it still exists, but surprisingly we’ve done a good job of deterring from our ‘Cage. As I told all our Bird-Cage brethren, negative attention is still attention.
2009 Bird-Cage Division/Team Analysis & Final Standings Competition
Unca’ Bob
Broncos: 5-11
WR
Broncos: 5-11
D3
Broncos: 6-10
Sarah B.
Broncos: 6-10
Lil’ Dave
Broncos: 7-9
jason
8-8
Got all entries saved so far. Great stuff. WR & Unca’ Bob, need your individual wins and losses. Bunch of more boys hadn’t heard from: Seminole, Nookah, Stirg, JJ, row3, Ken Strick, cutter, johnwaynesworld, and anyone else who wants to jump in and swim. We welcome your input.
row3
May 12th, 2009
7:23 pm
1 DEN @ CIN L
2 CLE @ DEN W
3 DEN @ OAK W
4 DAL @ DEN L
5 NE @ DEN L
6 DEN @ SD L
7 BYE
8 DEN @ BAL L
9 PIT @ DEN L
10 DEN @ WAS W
11 SD @ DEN W
12 NYG @ DEN L
13 DEN @ KC W
14 DEN @ IND L
15 OAK @ DEN W
16 DEN @ PHI L
17 KC @ DEN W
DENVER GOES 7-9 IN LANE KIFFIN’S FIRST YEAR AS DENVER’S HEAD COACH
row3
May 12th, 2009
7:35 pm
Sorry..I meant Josh McDaniels.
jason.watson
May 12th, 2009
8:14 pm
row3, Lane Kiffin? Not much of a Vol fan, are you ? (lol)
WR
May 12th, 2009
8:17 pm
1 Den@Cin–L, Cincy gets Palmer back and the D will be improved
2 Cle@Den–W, Same of Browns, different unproven coach and QB
3 Den@Oak–L, Even with an awful draft Raiders show sign of life
4 Dal@Den–L, Not even the dysfunctional Cowboys match Denvers woes
5 NE@Den—L, Brady’s back enough said
6 Den@SD—L, Without a Cutler showdown, Rivers goes off
7 BYE——Losses mount as tension fumes toward the head coach
8 Den@Bal–L, Ravens add insult to brutal season
9 Pit@Den–L, With hope lost Steelers pound the Broncos to roaring hometown boos
10 Den@Was-W,Upset alert, Skins are overconfident and blow this game
11 SD@Den–L,Chargers rest starters in the fourth quarter
12 NYG@Den-L,After a nice rookie season, Moreno gets battered and bruised by the boys in blue
13 Den@KC-W, After all the loses and with nothing to lose the team starts to show signs of the future
14 Den@Ind-L, Signs of the future take a step back with this watershed beating
15 Oak@Den-W, Pride won’t allow the team to lose to Oakland at home
16 Den@Phi-L, Dawkins pride aside, Broncos get demonlished in the city of brotherly love
17 KC@Den–W, With the season finally about over, players relax and realize not even Oakland is this bad.
JohnWaynesworld
May 12th, 2009
8:24 pm
Just got in…Denver’s 2009 record will be 8-8. Ball control and Moreno shines.
jason.watson
May 12th, 2009
8:25 pm
We had been talking before about the back up QB spot. I really don’t see Redman making the team due to salary, Matty Ice’s durability. My question is , if DJ and JPW bot do not show the wears of making #2 on the depth chart; who out there would be a cheap, affordable option for ATL ?
jason.watson
May 12th, 2009
8:45 pm
The more I think about it. Denver’s D is not going to be good this year. Half their DB backfield is old. I feel old thinking that Champ Bailey has been playing for 11 years. AHH seems like yesterdy… Anyway, I see 2 starters at LB, don’t know who would be the other 2. DL just looks awfully young. They do seem to some veteran on the bench. I think there are to many positions up for grabs for them to be considered contenders for much of anything. I picked 8-8, that seems to positive thinking. They could finish anywhere from 8-8 to 4-12. Alot of times the difference in winning and losing in the NFL is inches. For Denver it is going to be miles. I don’t see how they will be consistent on any facet of the game except ST; if they will be consistent there either.
D3
May 12th, 2009
8:51 pm
Great stuff guys! Love the momentum and Mojo we’re keeping here in the Bird-Cage.
2009 Bird-Cage Division/Team Analysis & Final Predictions Competition
Unca’ Bob
Broncos: 5-11
WR
Broncos: 5-11
D3
Broncos: 6-10
Sarah B.
Broncos: 6-10
Lil’ Dave
Broncos: 7-9
jason
Broncos: 8-8
row3
Broncos: 7-9
Johnwaynesworld: 8-8 (need individual picks when you get a chance)
Keep it rollin’ guys and gals. Still waiting on few of our faithful to get in on the action. If you ever miss a day or team for any reason, you can always just post it up and I’ll save it.
Also, if you need reminders just let me know and I can remind you of any record or prediction you may have forgot.
81 DAYS AND COUNTING TO 2009 ATLANTA FALCONS TRAINING CAMP!!!!
JohnWaynesworld
May 12th, 2009
8:54 pm
jason.watson, Redman is the only backup QB on the team who has played in an NFL regular season game. Redman knows the playbook and was actually pretty good at times. Redman is “insurance” for an NFL season. I think it is a Georgia vs Alabama competition for #3.
That is unless we are planning on running any “Wildcat” formations. Then Shockley would have the unquestioned edge for his speed and elusiveness.
D3
May 12th, 2009
8:57 pm
jason.watson – glad to have you in the Bird-Cage brother. Just let me know what you decide on and I’ll save it on my comp. Also list what games they win and which ones they lose. I posted a schedule on one of my earlier posts. If Redman is let go, look for Shockley to move up to #2 and JPW to move to #3.
One last time for anyone who may have missed it:
2009 Bird-Cage Division/Team Analysis & Final Standings Competition
Weekly Division: AFC West
Today’s Team: Denver Broncos
Bronco’s 2009 Schedule
1 Sep 13 DEN @ CIN
2 Sep 20 CLE @ DEN
3 Sep 27 DEN @ OAK
4 Oct 04 DAL @ DEN
5 Oct 11 NE @ DEN
6 Oct 19 DEN @ SD
7 Bye
8 Nov 01 DEN @ BAL
9 Nov 09 PIT @ DEN
10 Nov 15 DEN @ WAS
11 Nov 22 SD @ DEN
12 Nov 26 NYG @ DEN
13 Dec 06 DEN @ KC
14 Dec 13 DEN @ IND
15 Dec 20 OAK @ DEN
16 Dec 27 DEN @ PHI
17 Jan 03 KC @ DEN
Projected Starters(Best Available)
Offense
QB – Kyle Orton
FB – Peyton Hillis
RB – Correll Buckhalter/Knowshon Moreno/JJ Arrington
TE – Tony Scheffler
WR – Brandon Marshall
WR – Eddie Royal
LT – Ryan Clady
LG – Ben Hamilton
C – Casey Wiegmann
RG – Chris Kuper
RT – Ryan Harris
Defense (3-4)
NT – Marcus Thomas
DE – Robert Ayers
DE – Jarvis Moss
OLB – Boss Bailey
ILB – DJ Williams
ILB – Andra Davis
OLB – Mario Hagan?
CB – Champ Bailey
CB – Josh Bell/Alphonso Smith
SS – Brian Dawkins
FS – Renaldo Hill/Darcel McBath
K – Matt Prater
P – Brett Kern
So there you have it. Let’s hear it about the Broncos described with the following:
-analyze schedule, starters, possible wins/losses, draft picks, etc
-analyze a team each day mon-thurs, & friday-saturday can be our final standings prediction, which I will save
-predict where wins & losses will come, final standings, & division rank
-1 point for each correct win through the regular season
-winner gets Ultimate Bragging Rights! and any “incentive” we want to add
Tomorrow
Weekly Division: AFC West
Team: San Diego Chargers
JohnWaynesworld
May 12th, 2009
9:03 pm
Here ya go:
1 DEN @ CIN W
2 CLE @ DEN W
3 DEN @ OAK W
4 DAL @ DEN W
5 NE @ DEN L
6 DEN @ SD L
7 BYE
8 DEN @ BAL L
9 PIT @ DEN L
10 DEN @ WAS W
11 SD @ DEN W
12 NYG @ DEN L
13 DEN @ KC L
14 DEN @ IND L
15 OAK @ DEN W
16 DEN @ PHI L
17 KC @ DEN W
jason
May 12th, 2009
9:04 pm
D3, jason.watson is me jason. I am on my home computer now. Sorry aboutthe confusion, about sent my e-mail address world wide lol…
JohnWaynesworld, sorry for confusion on my question. If ATL were to look outside of the organization for a #2, considering Redman’s pricetag, any ideas who is or might be available as a expirenced veteran QB?
JohnWaynesworld
May 12th, 2009
9:14 pm
I looked at the latest list and I see nothing but trouble and inconsistency. I see underachievers and busts. I see wannabees and crash test dummies.
I think Redman is our #2 guy all the way. If we don’t go with him because of money then we might as well go with DJ (And I’m not saying that is a bad thing) and have JPW carry a clipboard for a year and learn.
JohnWaynesworld
May 12th, 2009
9:18 pm
Here the list I was looking at:
Brooks Bollinger UFA Dallas Cowboys
Ken Dorsey UFA Cleveland Browns
Bruce Eugene RFA Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Gus Frerotte UFA Minnesota Vikings
Charlie Frye UFA Seattle Seahawks
Quinn Gray UFA Kansas City Chiefs
Trent Green UFA St. Louis Rams
Rex Grossman UFA Chicago Bears
Darrell Hackney UFA Denver Broncos
Drew Henson RFA Detroit Lions
Brad Johnson UFA Dallas Cowboys
J.P. Losman UFA Buffalo Bills
Jamie Martin UFA San Francisco 49ers
Anthony Wright UFA New York Giants
Now blow on those dice and ROLL!
Stirg d'Nahsif
May 12th, 2009
9:30 pm
You’re most welcome, D3; My pleasure. I like Pachebel; good chamber music. That was a great choice to start.
I was one of the first ones to enter my analysis on Denver. Thought you got it. Oh well, that monster may be on the lurk. Anywho, here it is:
1 DEN @ CIN L
2 CLE @ DEN W
3 DEN @ OAK W
4 DAL @ DEN L
5 NE @ DEN W For this game, Denver finds a way to win
6 DEN @ SD L
7 BYE
8 DEN @ BAL L
9 PIT @ DEN L
10 DEN @ WAS L
11 SD @ DEN W
12 NYG @ DEN L
13 DEN @ KC L
14 DEN @ IND L
15 OAK @ DEN W
16 DEN @ PHI L
17 KC @ DEN W
Denver Broncos are going to meet most people expectations, by having a losing season and failing to reach the post-season. They will give their fans, including the GM, at least one week of excitement, by beating New England at home; that’ll be the upset of the week (mark your calenders). Other than that, I agree with most people on their win/loss record. Broncos go 6-10.
Sarah B
May 12th, 2009
9:30 pm
JohnWW that is a pitiful list…. arrrgh. I guess we sick with what we got. I think Shockley or Redman would be fine for a game or two but.s let’s just remind the OL WHAT exactly they are protecting and they will probably perform as they did last year and keep Ryan safe and Turner running. After all they want a ring too!! I hope as bad as I do and I don’t even get one… lol
JohnWaynesworld
May 12th, 2009
9:41 pm
Sarah B, You must not like my list because of the Dallas game. lol You see I remember how porous their run defense was last year and I just watched Romo throw 5 or 6 interceptions vs Buffalo in a replay game on the NFL channel, so I just thought that (and my deep seated hatred for Danny White and the 1980 team) that I would pick Denver to “upset” the Cowpies.
Logic win out once again!
JJ
May 12th, 2009
9:43 pm
Hey: rockin’ today, I saw, I read and I’m going to bed! Sorry D3, SWAMPED AT WORK(contractor and its not raining), WILL CONTRIBUTE WHEN i CAN! GO FALCONS – CUE BARRY! Dont mean to yell, to tired to change it! See ya at 5:30am! augh!
JohnWaynesworld
May 12th, 2009
9:46 pm
Gonzalez (the Braves one) is ticking me off. I’m going to bed.
Ken Strickland
May 12th, 2009
9:49 pm
What’s up everyone? I just finished reading a final draft grade assigned to every NFC South team. Neither of the 3 teams in our division got a grade higher than D. The Saints got an F while the Falcons got a B+.
They loved our first 4 picks and believe it’s possible for SS WMoore, CB COwens and DT PJerry to win starting jobs. Although LSidbury is considered a work in progress, he’s considered one the drafts biggest steals and will be an impact player in a couple of yrs. They said if SS WMoore and CB COwens play up to their potential, they will be impact players a whole lot sooner than later. They also felt GA TECH DT VWalker is a 7th rd steal and were also high on OT GReynolds.
It seems the only key vet that remains unsigned is RFA OT TClabo. I’ll bet you Miami, New England and Carolina are already trying to figure out how to contend with our improved OFF. Consider this.
There are 5 teams(Panthers, Bucs, Saints, Bears, Eagles) on this yrs schedule that were on last yrs schedule that make up 8 gms. At the start of last yr, we were missing the chemistry, familiarity, expanded and upgraded OFF and much improved DEF. Those improvements and additions could very easily help us sweep all 5 teams this yr. We play Buffalo, Washington and Miami at home and could easily win at least 2 of those. We play the 49er’s, Cowboys, Jets, Giants and Patriots on the road and could get at least 2 wins out of that group. Therefore, if we get 7 wins from the teams we played last yr, 2 wins from our remaining home gms and 2 wins from our remaining away gms, we’ll match last season’s 11-5 record, at the very least. If our rushing and passing DEF steps up, we could actually improve upon that win total.
Sarah B
May 12th, 2009
9:58 pm
Hey Ken – 11-5 is the same as I said and i sid 8-8going into last year and was wrong by 3 games, let’s hope that optimism continues this year – we should be 14-3 if that mark holds. Hold your breath – it’s gonna be a great season from where I SIT 342 ROW 6….
Sarah B
May 12th, 2009
9:59 pm
Oops hit caps lock by mistake.
jason
May 12th, 2009
10:24 pm
JohnWaynesworld, not a good list at all. Redman looking more like a keeper now. I think DJ at#3, with JPW being kept for developement purposes. It almost looks as if TD had his eye on JPW going into the later rounds of the draft. He new he had a chance sign him. As well as The clemson WR, whose name escapes me now.
Sarah B
May 12th, 2009
10:27 pm
Don’t cut off the chat or DOL might cut of our link. We must keep this going.
Sarah B
May 12th, 2009
10:29 pm
Well see you in the morning got to turn in.
row3
May 12th, 2009
10:56 pm
jason..anything but a Vol fan, lame attempt at humor, comparing J McDaniel as the new NFL version of L Kiffin, the way he handled the Cuttler situation, they remind me of each other. No offense to Vol fans.
Born a Dawg, Die a Dawg!
Born a Falcon, Die a Falcon!
Homer for life.
Boxcarar
May 13th, 2009
1:01 am
Scrolled through the blog and have a comment about rotating DB’s just to keep them fresh. Will Drew Brees or any other good QB, have an audible to attack the newbee? Just trying to keep the content alive.
Ed
May 13th, 2009
4:32 am
1 Sep 13 DEN @ CIN L
2 Sep 20 CLE @ DEN W
3 Sep 27 DEN @ OAK W
4 Oct 04 DAL @ DEN L
5 Oct 11 NE @ DEN L
6 Oct 19 DEN @ SD L
7 Bye
8 Nov 01 DEN @ BAL L
9 Nov 09 PIT @ DEN L
10 Nov 15 DEN @ WAS L
11 Nov 22 SD @ DEN L
12 Nov 26 NYG @ DEN L
13 Dec 06 DEN @ KC W
14 Dec 13 DEN @ IND L
15 Dec 20 OAK @ DEN W
16 Dec 27 DEN @ PHI L
17 Jan 03 KC @ DEN W
That would be 5-11
Here we Go
May 13th, 2009
5:07 am
From Dacha:
BTW, crabapplejoe: How is Brooking doing over there with the Cowboys? Keep us posted, man.
So dacha, remembering that crabapplejoe was always a Brooking fan, asks how Brooking is doing with the cowboys. Looks like a casual friendly gesture to me. But this is how crabapplejoe responds:
From crabapplejoe:
dacha wrote: “BTW, crabapplejoe: How is Brooking doing over there with the Cowboys? Keep us posted, man.”
Don’t know dude….not a Cowboys fan…you? In fact I hate the Cowboys. Not sure what Brooking has to do with Lawyer Milloy. One got picked up 36 hours into free agency and nobody wants the other…that’s all I know dude. You seem to have a problem with that…and I think I know why.
Strange. Could have sworn that dacha said NOTHING about Lawyer Milloy, and simply asked a known Brooking fan how Brooking was doing with his new team. And for this, dacha gets flamed. Yes, it is quite obvious who has the problem, and what the problem is. It would seem that crabapplejoe falls into the same category as VS and VS2 did: unable to post anything positive about the team unless talking about one particular former member thereof, and certainly not able to say anything about any other player without making an unfavorable mention of a black athlete. What a shame. Oh well. If not for idiotic, racist morons, the rest of us would not know what normal is….
jason
May 13th, 2009
6:13 am
row3, i should be grounded and sent to my room for accussing any great Homer of being a VOL fan. My bad. I do get your point one McDaniel. Darn ADHD…
JJ
May 13th, 2009
6:28 am
Denver: 2 – 14, they play oakland twice, right?
Unca' Bob
May 13th, 2009
7:00 am
Good morning all. The sun is coming up in MY backyard once again. I think I’ll share it with y’all.
Back-up QB: Money, while it is and should be, a consideration. I do not think it will be the last factor to determine this competition. Should Matt Ryan opt to take a vacation after game four, where does that leave us as a team and as Falcon fans? As for me, pretty shaken. Enter the back-up QB. Say things don’t go well and we start to slide some. Fans are going to show up at the Dome disguised as empty seats. OK OK, you see where I’m going with this.
I think players salary alone per annum is One Hundred Million dollars and “change”. Mr. Blank, TD, and Coach Smith & Co. are not going to skimp here. They will pay and play the best available player regardless of position…Just a though.
jason
May 13th, 2009
7:20 am
Good reasoning Unca’ Bob . By the way good morning, Sir. With that you would have to keep Redman as back up. I do think if you are looking at DJ in the long term, I think at some point this year you would have to consider getting him on the field to gain some kind of expirence. Not at cost of wins mind you.
jason
May 13th, 2009
7:49 am
D3, Stirg d’Nahsif, row3, and everyone. Good Morning. Hey guys, I’ve got a problem. I am hooked, no addicted to this blog. I have found no other place I can talk and debate one of my passions. No interuptions from knuckleheads in immature rival talk. Thank you for inviting me on to your blog. This started out for me on draft week end. I was looking for some info on my Falcons. I needed that football “fix” to get me to training camp. I wondered on to DOL’s blog not knowing what i was getting into. I simply asked a question and D3 and Seminole Warrior responde. Now I am hooked. I read every post. I check the blog when I first get to work, and before I turn in at night. I even think the misses thinks I’m chatting with girls on line. I am a secret blooger at work. I don’t know. I might need an intervention !!! LOL!!!
So, the San Deigo Chargers are on the list today. Not going to go into much detail. However, They are my pick to win AFC West.
Unca' Bob
May 13th, 2009
8:13 am
jason,
Thank you. If there is a gap in talent between player A and player B, then, yes, you go with player A. Should that gap disappear, and all things are equal except money, they will then go with player B. Basically, what I’m saying is money is not the only consideration.
I don’t feel we are going to see a great deal of Matt Ryan during the pre-season this year. What we will see is a lot from the back-ups and so will Coach Smith & Co. If DJS prevails, I do, at some point and time, see him getting some playing time. Fourth quarter, home team up big time…that sort of thing…Just a thought.
crabapplejoe
May 13th, 2009
8:34 am
@Here We Go: “Lawyer Milloy still hasn’t signed anywhere. Is he done or is it just that no one wants him? I would think that it might be a decent idea for the Falcons to pick him up f he’s not going anywhere and could be gotten for cheap.”
Look you moron…that is the post we were responding to about Lawyer Milloy…it had nothing to do with KB56. Then Dacha brought up Brooking, not me. I simply responded to the above posting stating that Milloy would not be coming back, as did several others. Read the whole thread you idiot. So if I don’t think the Falcons will resign Milloy I am a racist…whatever. So if you don’t think the Falcons should resign Brooking are you a racist? How did you do in Logic 101 in college?
Unca' Bob
May 13th, 2009
9:04 am
Ken Strickland,
From what I’ve been reading, everyone is big on both Moore and Owens. I did read something on Owens during mini-camp that I did not take as a plus. It said he has great make up speed. To me that sounds like someone was jukin’ him pretty him good.
I still have some reservations about the home & home games, though none with the Buc’s. The DC last season just SAID he was leaving and they folded. I had Carolina’s draft scored a little higher. IMO they are still the team to beat in our division. And we will. The Saint’s are really in a scramble mode on Defense. They only had four picks this year and Arnoux LB, is out for the season. Should we sweep NO, and split with Carolina, We Win. Carolina will lose in NO. Shaky Jake told me so.
jason
May 13th, 2009
9:15 am
I don’t know how much of a gap in talent there is if there is one. Alot of it falls on playing time. I was thinking the same thing about the preseason. I just didn’t know how muck of the offense Matty Ice had learned. I would like to see the preseaon go Dj vs. Redman ; all out for the back up. JPW playing alot of 4 qt. in a developemental role. Alot is key for DJ. he’s been in the league for 3 years, but had to deal with 3 different OCs.
jason
May 13th, 2009
9:25 am
Alot of repitions is key for DJ….
Unca' Bob
May 13th, 2009
9:31 am
jason,
I understand. The top three QB’s are in their second season now. As to Matt Ryan, he spent a lot of time during the off-season watching last years game tapes. He will do fine. The DJS-v-Redman thing, you will get your wish.
Ken Strickland
May 13th, 2009
10:01 am
When it comes to QB’s, we’ve seen that TD and Smitty favor accuracy over arm strength. Redman has demonstrated as a starter that he’s a very accurate passer, which is why Petrino brought him in. The battle for #3 backup will boil down to which of the 2 has the most accurate arm. The OFF Smitty and TE have constructed is very QB friendly. We have a dominant rushing OFF(#2 behind the Giants), a passing OFF that features 2 Probowl REC’s(TE TGonzalez & WR RWhite) and an OL that does an excellent job of protecting the QB. MRyan’s intangibles, such as leadership and presence, are what separates him from QB CRedman. We’ll be in good hands with CRedman. Look, Redman proved he can play when he took over the mess of a team that was left when HC RPetrino bolted. We had the NFL’s worst rushing OFF and one of the worst passing OFF’s. Yet, in the final 2 gms he led our OFF by putting up 27pts in a 27-30 OT loss to Arizona and 44pts in a 44-41 win over Seattle. The only problem with Redman is can we afford to resign him.
jason
May 13th, 2009
10:16 am
Not as worried about Ryan. I just didn’t know if he digested the whole playbook last season. I look for Ryan to play enough to refine his mechanics and decision making ability.
JohnWayneworld
May 13th, 2009
10:20 am
Good morning all! Jason I agree with you that this is a good time blog and so far very very few distractions.
Chargers huh? Hmmmmmmm. Well without looking at my homework I would say that they are in a real crappy division and if LT stays healthy for 75% of the games they will win it easily. Having said that (and having already predicted a 8-8 Broncos team) I think they will make 10 wins:
1 Sep 14 SD @ OAK – W
2 Sep 20 BAL @ SD – L
3 Sep 27 MIA @ SD – W
4 Oct 04 SD @ PIT – L
5 Bye
6 Oct 19 DEN @ SD – W
7 Oct 25 SD @ KC – W
8 Nov 01 OAK @ SD – W
9 Nov 08 SD @ NYG – L
10 Nov 15 PHI @ SD – L
11 Nov 22 SD @ DEN – L
12 Nov 29 KC @ SD – W
13 Dec 06 SD @ CLE – W
14 Dec 13 SD @ DAL – W
15 Dec 20 CIN @ SD – W
16 Dec 25 SD @ TEN – L
17 Jan 03 WAS @ SD – W
I believe that is 10-6. I love this tiny window, nyet.
THIS DIVISION IS SO LUCKY WE AREN’T PLAYING THEM
jason
May 13th, 2009
10:23 am
Ken, that was my question. Can we afford to sign him? That’s why I was opining about alternative solutions.
I have a question about the OL. ATL susposedly had the worst OL in football goinig into last season. What gives? Were they an underated group, was it scheme. How did ATL’s OL come out after the season looking dominant. Looking like a very adequate OL?
JohnWayneworld
May 13th, 2009
10:33 am
I would love to see DJ in the Wildcat formation. You would have DJ in the middle with Jerious on one side and a good blocking RB (Brown, Haynes or Snelling) on the other side. Of course you also have Harry and Roddy split wide with TG in tight. And there’s Ryan, who is getting a break on the sideline, yelling and cheering for his teammates on the field.
It’s like being in a toy store!
Sarah B
May 13th, 2009
10:38 am
1 Sep 14 SD @ OAK – W
2 Sep 20 BAL @ SD – L
3 Sep 27 MIA @ SD – W
4 Oct 04 SD @ PIT – W
5 Bye
6 Oct 19 DEN @ SD – W
7 Oct 25 SD @ KC – W
8 Nov 01 OAK @ SD – W
9 Nov 08 SD @ NYG – L
10 Nov 15 PHI @ SD – W
11 Nov 22 SD @ DEN – W
12 Nov 29 KC @ SD – W
13 Dec 06 SD @ CLE – W
14 Dec 13 SD @ DAL – W
15 Dec 20 CIN @ SD – W
16 Dec 25 SD @ TEN – L
17 Jan 03 WAS @ SD – W
Eeee Gads what an easy schedule I wish we had this schedule – we could start our Super Bowl party now.
SD Chargers 13-3
Sarah B
May 13th, 2009
10:40 am
We started without you D3…
jason
May 13th, 2009
11:02 am
JohnWayneworld, Stop it. I am getting overexcited daydreaming about the limitless possibilities with that formation. You could go power on that formation by inserting Gozo at TE and dropping a WR. Something like… QB DJ, RB Norwood, RB Snelling/ Haynes, TE Gonzo, WR White, WR Jenkins/Douglas
JohnWayneworld
May 13th, 2009
11:08 am
You’re right Sara it is an incredibly easy schedule. I just don’t think Rivers is actually getting better. He seems so mediocre. All brash and no cash. If LT isn’t really good this year, then Merriman better take over on defense or they may battle Denver like they did last year.
row3
May 13th, 2009
11:21 am
Good morning, Lady and Gents. I’m glad to still be talking about the back-up QB position, I agree that Redman is our best option at QB2, in the event Ryan suffers an injury. This may only make sense to me, but a move of DJ to QB2 would allow us to use DJ in gimmick offenses (wildcat) during the game, without having to bench Ryan. This would make Redman QB3, and only avalible in case of injury, (thats the only way I see him coming into a live game anyway). That would make Redman the highest priced 3rd string QB in the NFL.
Unca' Bob
May 13th, 2009
11:25 am
D3
May 12th, 2009
8:57 pm
jason.watson – glad to have you in the Bird-Cage brother. Just let me know what you decide on and I’ll save it on my comp. Also list what games they win and which ones they lose. I posted a schedule on one of my earlier posts. If Redman is let go, look for Shockley to move up to #2 and JPW to move to #3.
D3,
For better or worse here it is.
Bronco’s 2009 Schedule
1 Sep 13 DEN @ CIN L
2 Sep 20 CLE @ DEN W
3 Sep 27 DEN @ OAK W
4 Oct 04 DAL @ DEN L
5 Oct 11 NE @ DEN L
6 Oct 19 DEN @ SD L
At this time the words tar and feathers are being used in the same sentence
7 Bye
8 Nov 01 DEN @ BAL L
9 Nov 09 PIT @ DEN L
10 Nov 15 DEN @ WAS L
11 Nov 22 SD @ DEN L
12 Nov 26 NYG @ DEN L
13 Dec 06 DEN @ KC W
14 Dec 13 DEN @ IND L
15 Dec 20 OAK @ DEN W
16 Dec 27 DEN @ PHI L
17 Jan 03 KC @ DEN W
Unca' Bob
May 13th, 2009
11:28 am
What in the wild world of sports just happened???
Unca' Bob
May 13th, 2009
11:30 am
D3,
How did your post show up on mine?????
jason
May 13th, 2009
11:31 am
San Deigo, easily the best of a weak division. Why haven’t they got a go to reciever for Rivers? Take some heat off of Gates. I think LT will bounce back strong this year. Just didn’t seem himself last year. They also have Sporles off the bench to spell LT and cath passes. The defense lloks strong again this year. Not spetacular, outside of Merriman. I see them winning the Division. Could give Pitt or NE a tun in the playoffs.
1 Sep 14 SD @ OAK – W, tune up for BLT
2 Sep 20 BAL @ SD -W, Tough close wim Home field
3 Sep 27 MIA @ SD – W, Miam, not as good this year
4 Oct 04 SD @ PIT – L, Another close one, come up short
5 Bye
6 Oct 19 DEN @ SD – W, beginning of a streak
7 Oct 25 SD @ KC – L,Lose one they shouldn’t
8 Nov 01 OAK @ SD – W, Poor Oakland
9 Nov 08 SD @ NYG – L, Road game is brutal
10 Nov 15 PHI @ SD – W, And the streak begins
11 Nov 22 SD @ DEN – W Ditto
12 Nov 29 KC @ SD – W Ditto
13 Dec 06 SD @ CLE – W D coming on strong now
14 Dec 13 SD @ DAL – W Ditto
15 Dec 20 CIN @ SD – W Ditto
16 Dec 25 SD @ TEN – L, run into the toughest D yet
17 Jan 03 WAS @ SD – W, Playing out season for home field
Stirg d'Nahsif
May 13th, 2009
11:33 am
Unca’ Bob, I agree with you most, on your analysis of the NFC South earlier. New Orleans is washed; Tampa Bay is rebuilding; and Carolina still using band-aids to patch surgical wombs. I am particulary interested in all the positive talk, out there in Sports land. All the sports write-ups, as Ken mentioned, are giving the Birds a high grade. Although I haven’t detected an “A” out there, I’ll take a “B+” all day, when you compare it to the failing grades our divisional foes are receiving. What intrigues me most are the new scouting reports on Christopher Owens. There was almost nothing on this kid before the draft. When he was taken in the third round, I think it made scouting fans search his credentials…and boy, Oh! Boy, Oh! Boy! This kid is a beast. Dimitroff’s Matrix prevails again. Owens is one of those guys that slips through the cracks and turns out to be an all-pro in less than four years. Good, silent job, TD!
Welcome, jason!
Sarah B
May 13th, 2009
11:41 am
Weird Unca’ Bob – just weird. This blog monster is getting more creative I guess.
jason
May 13th, 2009
11:50 am
D3/Unca’ Bob, Those 2 posts… that’s just hilarious. Falcon Nation has just burned the blog up. It’s overheating….
Unca' Bob
May 13th, 2009
11:50 am
1 Sep 14 SD @ OAK – W
2 Sep 20 BAL @ SD – W
3 Sep 27 MIA @ SD – L
4 Oct 04 SD @ PIT – L
5 Bye
6 Oct 19 DEN @ SD – W
7 Oct 25 SD @ KC – W
8 Nov 01 OAK @ SD – W
9 Nov 08 SD @ NYG – L
10 Nov 15 PHI @ SD – L
11 Nov 22 SD @ DEN – W
12 Nov 29 KC @ SD – W
13 Dec 06 SD @ CLE – W
14 Dec 13 SD @ DAL – W
15 Dec 20 CIN @ SD – W
16 Dec 25 SD @ TEN – L
17 Jan 03 WAS @ SD – W
11-5 Conf Champ
jason
May 13th, 2009
12:25 pm
D3, what up man? I just put my won/loss record in. Provided a brief synopsis of what I think their team will look like this year. I see SD going 12-4 with Div Champ. Not ready to claim Conference Champ though. However, I am picking only one team from this div. to make the playoffs.
jason
May 13th, 2009
12:32 pm
I want to change the subject here. We have hashed and rehashed about the QB position, and back ups. I want some infor, opinions on the OL.
Considering going into last season, critics said that ATL had perhaps the worst OL in the NFL. What were the reasons for success? Were they underated individually, as a unit? Was it the scheme inbedded by Coach Smith and crew? How do we see our OL stacking up this year? Starters/ Backups. Is Clabo resignable? What are options if he signs elsewhere?
I know, I want all the info on the fastest rising team in the NFL Our ATLANTA FALCONS.
row3
May 13th, 2009
12:35 pm
The Friday before the draft I was listening to sports talk radio, It was the Colin Cowherd (spell check) show, He said before the draft ever started, the Falcons won the draft, it did’nt matter who choose who where, the Falcons won the draft. He based this on the TG deal being part of this years draft, he bashed KC for giving up the best TE in the game, for what he called at best a 58th pick in next years draft. We made the playoffs last year and drafted 55th, at best a 58th pick shows alot of respect to the birds.
WR
May 13th, 2009
12:37 pm
JohnWaynesWorld, I have to gracefully disagee with you on Phillip Rivers, the guy basically carried the team last with LT’s injury problems and a giant step back for the defense. With Merriman back and the addition of Larry English I aspect a rebound for the defense and if LT truly hasn’t lost a step and it was just injuries look out.
1 SD@OAK-W,Russell to Heyward-Bey not quite ready for primetime
2 BAL@SD-W,close game but Rivers shows why he is in the top tier of QB’s
3 MIA@SD-W,Dolphins start to show signs their not that good
4 SD@PITT-L,Norv Turner cost this game with bad play calling
5 Bye-LT is good, defense is getting in position to win some games because the team has been carried by the offense up until this point
6 DEN@SD-W,no Cutler, no problem, Chargers roll
7 SD@KC-W, no pride, no Gonzo, Chiefs just looking for a ray of hope
8 Oak@SD-W,Raiders actually show sign of life but realize they still are the Raiders
9 SD@NYG-L,Feeling overconfident because of the schedule Giants make Chargers refocus
10 PHI@SD-L,Chargers look to win one against the NFC north after the Giants thrashing, they look in the wrong place.
11 SD@DEN-W,After two heart breaking loseses and internal bickering, Broncos serve as a cure for the Chargers illness
12 KC@SD-W,stretch run and playoff positioning begins,Chargers dismantle the Chiefs.
13 SD@CLE-W,Players wonder is the Browns actually on our schedule too
14 SD@DAL-L,Wade Phillips is on the hot seat and Romo begins to get tired of Jessica
15 CIN@SD-L,the surprise team of the season continues to exceed expectations with a beat down of the Chargers at home.
16 SD@TEN-L, still sulking after the Cincy beatdown,Chargers lose a close one
17 Was@SD-W,Dan Synder challenges Al Davis as owner of the year,not, Skins start to look a lot like the east coast version of Oakland, Dallas has the south version covered,while Detroit covers the north.
WR
May 13th, 2009
12:39 pm
SD goes 10-6
D3
May 13th, 2009
12:47 pm
Great Wednesday Morning Bird-Cage Guys and Gals! So d@— pumped to see you guys went ahead and rolled the Chargers today. Sweet. So much to respond to, it will take a while to catch up today. Looks awesome. The ‘Cage is rockin’, alive, and at an all-time high.
2009 Bird-Cage Division/Team Analysis & Final Standings Competition
Weekly Division: AFC West
Today’s Team: Sand Diego Chargers
2009 Schedule
1 Sep 14 SD @ OAK
2 Sep 20 BAL @ SD
3 Sep 27 MIA @ SD
4 Oct 04 SD @ PIT
5 Bye
6 Oct 19 DEN @ SD
7 Oct 25 SD @ KC
8 Nov 01 OAK @ SD
9 Nov 08 SD @ NYG
10 Nov 15 PHI @ SD
11 Nov 22 SD @ DEN
12 Nov 29 KC @ SD
13 Dec 06 SD @ CLE
14 Dec 13 SD @ DAL
15 Dec 20 CIN @ SD
16 Dec 25 SD @ TEN
17 Jan 03 WAS @ SD
Projected Starters
Offense
QB – Phillip Rivers
RB – Ladanian Tomlinson/Darren Sproles
TE – Antonio Gates
TE – Brandon Manumuela
LT – Marcus McNeill
LG – Kris Dielman
C – Nick Hardwick
RG – Brandon Dombromski?
RT – Jeromey Clary
Defense (3-4)
NT – Jamaal Williams
DE – Luis Castillo
DE – Shaun Phillips?
OLB – Shawn Merriman
OLB – Larry English
ILB – Stephen Cooper
ILB – Tim Dobbins
CB – Quentin Jammer
CB – Antonio Cromartie
SS – Clinton Hart
FS – Eric Weddle
K – Nate Kaeding
P – Mike Scifres
So there you have it. Let’s hear it about the Chargers described with the following:
-analyze schedule, starters, possible wins/losses, draft picks, etc
-analyze a team each day mon-thurs, & friday-saturday can be our final standings prediction, which I will save
-predict where wins & losses will come, final standings, & division rank
jason, johnwaynesworld, Unca’ Bob, & Sarah B. already got ya’lls saved. Great d@— work guys! A little slower today. Lil’ WR kept us seriously awake last night.
More to come later………
D3
May 13th, 2009
12:49 pm
obviously, its San Diego, sand diego……..jeez, tried to type too fast to keep pace with you guys.
jason
May 13th, 2009
12:54 pm
D3, had afeeling… My youngest is 2, and she’s a handful some nights.
Unca' Bob
May 13th, 2009
1:13 pm
row3,
I saw an artical about TD doing so well with the ‘08 draft. They were saying about the same thing concerning the TG pick-up. There was some bashing KC but nothing too strong. I feel they understood that the trade was made to help TG have an opportunity to go out a winner. The GM in KC groomed our own T Dimitroff. KC made a very hard choice and IMO made the right one for TG.
Unca' Bob
May 13th, 2009
1:21 pm
D3,
Do me a favor, if you would please. I didn’t realize I had put Conf Champ. Would you strike Conf and replace with Div Champ. Thank you.
Unca' Bob
May 13th, 2009
1:26 pm
WR,
I feel Rivers did a fine job last year also. With the return of Merriman alone is a huge upside. With the addition of Larry they will have everyone in San Diego speaking English…
Lil'Dave
May 13th, 2009
2:01 pm
Hey in the picture on the first page at the top with Auther Blank. If you draw a stright line from the tip of his nose from left to right the first Falcons hat you hit THAT’S MY HEAD! You guys almost got a view of Lil’Dave. I actually think he was signing my football when the photo was taken. Just thought it was kinda cool and thought i would share the useless info.
Stirg d'Nahsif
May 13th, 2009
2:03 pm
Oh No! Say it isn’t so. Jason Taylor is a Dolphin again.
Stirg d'Nahsif
May 13th, 2009
2:04 pm
Jason Taylor, opposite Joey Porter. I’ll take that duo, no matter how old they are.
Sarah B
May 13th, 2009
2:26 pm
Sweet! I get to ogle Jason Taylor and Gonzo in our 1st home game!!! My very own version of Cheerleaders.
JohnWayneworld
May 13th, 2009
2:34 pm
Your absolutely right Unca’ Bob about the soft gloves given to KC for giving TG a chance to go out a winner. It just wasn’t gonna happen there and Tony had his allegiance to his team. Character.
Maybe some of you IT folks out there can answer this: It seems that the bigger this blog gets, the worse it reacts sometimes to data input. You know the blog monster D3 has talked about. It has happened to me, especially at the end of a page. Does this happen alot at the end of a page? Or is it just another server issue.
I have been copying everything I type before I submit it just in case. Then if it fails (and it has!), all I have to do is paste it back in the box.
WR, I will defer to you about Rivers. I don’t see him every week so maybe I am missing something about him but he sometimes looks lost against big time teams, e.g. PITT, IND , NE. After 6 seasons I figured he would have really blossomed into a super elite QB or at least won a ring once.
JohnWayneworld
May 13th, 2009
2:39 pm
Sara you go girl. haha Checking out the uniforms! Reminds me of an old girlfriend who use to borrow my binoculars at the home games and all she wanted to do, during the game, is check out our kicker on the sideline, Mick Luckhurst. And all he was doing was warming up! lol
JohnWayneworld
May 13th, 2009
2:41 pm
Sarah you go girl. Reminds me back in the day of my old girlfriend who always wanted my binoculars at Falcon home games just so she could scope out our kicker, Mick Luckhurst, warming up on the sidelines. lol
Sarah B
May 13th, 2009
2:42 pm
Yes JonWW it does happen more towards the end of the page. At least to me too. And the games I’ve seen with Rivers playing, especially last year, he did carry the team. Think of the playoff game last year when they beat the Colts and knocked them out.
JohnWayneworld
May 13th, 2009
2:43 pm
GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR Ok im out. I didn’t do what I said and I got hosed.
Sarah B
May 13th, 2009
2:44 pm
I used to love to watch Kerney warm up. He always slapped the backs of his legs… Oops getting distracted.
Ken Strickland
May 13th, 2009
2:48 pm
JASON-far too often the success of a lot of NFL players depends on the system they’re asked to function in. For example: MVick would have been lost, as would most NFL QB’s, in the Colts OFF system. On the other hand, Colts QB PManning or Patriots QB TBrady would have been absolute busts trying to make that system MVick played in under JMora work.
The cut blocking system used by JMora and the power drive blocking system used by RPetrino are require completely opposite skills, techniques and even body build. Mora’s system required OLinemen to be quick, fast, agile and lighter. Pertrio’s power drive blocking system requires shere size and streng. The problem both had with the OL was they tried to force players to fit into their systems. Smith and Murlarky designed a blocking system that took advantage of both the size, strength, quickness and speed of the OLinemen they inherited. The truth is, Mora had a parttime OL coach and Petrino didn’t have one at all.
Bottomline, good coaching allows a team to do more with less, and we saw that last yr. Imagine what our coaches will be able to do with more.
LOOK, I’M GOING TO BE PERFECTLY HONEST WILL EVERYONE. THIS YRS TEAM SCARES ME, BECAUSE IT HAS THE POTENTIAL TO HAVE ANOTHER BLITZ GRITS OR DIRTY BIRD TYPE SEASON.
Our OFF became good last yr, and with the addition of TE TGonzalez, it has the potential to be scary good this yr. Our DEF, although it will be very young, has now acquired the talent and potential to become very good as well. The addition of DT’s PJerry, TLewis, VWalker, LB’s MPeterson, RJames, DNickolson, CB’s VHutchins, DIrons, BGrimes, COwens, safeties WMoore and AHarris would be tremendous additions and an upgrade for almost any DEF. Do I have to mention the positive effects the addition of Probowl TE TGonzalez will have on the #14 passing attack and the #2 rushing attack. I DON’T WANT TO GO OUT ON A LIMB, BUT I’M JUST SAYING.
row3
May 13th, 2009
2:49 pm
1 SD @ OAK – W
2 BAL @ SD – L
3 MIA @ SD – W
4 SD @ PIT – L
5 BYE – TIE
6 DEN @ SD – W
7 SD @ KC – W
8 OAK @ SD – W
9 SD @ NYG – L
10 PHI @ SD – L
11 SD @ DEN – L
12 KC @ SD – W
13 SD @ CLE – W
14 SD @ DAL – W
15 CIN @ SD – W
16 SD @ TEN – L
17 WAS @ SD – W
SD will stuggle a little early and into mid-season, but will close season strong and carry momentum into playoffs. Division Winners, Conference losers.
row3
May 13th, 2009
2:51 pm
I left off, 10-6
jason
May 13th, 2009
2:53 pm
consenus so far seems 12-4 to 10-6. Not to bad for SD. Picked to win division by all post i have read. AFC West is weak this year. Maybe only team above .500.
Stirg d'Nahsif
May 13th, 2009
3:23 pm
Focus, Sarah; bring it back. Just think of Kerney wearing pink grandma panties on his head and that’ll chase those thoughts away.
I mentioned earlier that I was excited about all the positive talk out there about the Falcons. The Yahoo’s, ESPN’s, CBS Sports’ reports are all positive, for the most part. One writer even gave Atlanta the best grade in the draft, before the draft even started. He gave the grade, as a result of the Falcons acquiring Tony Gonzalez.
Speaking of which, I remember when it was rumored that the Falcons would grab Gonzo. None of us believed it because, after it was reported, the move just died away; but after a couple of weeks, voila! The National Football Post was the first to report this, two weeks prior to the deal was made. I’m not using this to substantiate the NFP’s credibility. I’m just merely saying someone, there, may know something, or somebody, that we don’t. So, I find myself interested in what they have to say. Recently, they did Round-by-Round breakdown of the draft (they don’t believe in giving out grades before mini-camp). Here’s what they said about the Falcons, in round one:
DT Peria Jerry, Atlanta Falcons
The ability to team Jerry with current starting DT Jonathan Babineaux has to give the Falcons one of the most explosive pairs of interior lineman in the NFL. Jerry is a bit older than most prospects in this year’s draft (he turns 25 in August), but his maturity and passion are both strong suites of his game. The kid loves football, and you can see it through his motor and work ethic on the field. He’s an explosive, penetrating lineman who knows how to shoot gaps and create havoc in an opponent’s backfield. He does a nice job making plays away from his body and also possesses the lower body strength to hold up against the run. The Falcons had some interest last year in LSU DT Glenn Dorsey, believing he might be interior lineman they needed, but it looks like they got their man a year later.
Just a tidbit to pass on to y’all.
cutter
May 13th, 2009
3:25 pm
FLOWERY BRANCH, Ga. – The Atlanta Falcons today signed free agent linebacker Rashad Bobino. Bobino participated as a tryout player for the Falcons mini-camp this past weekend.
Bobino, 5-11, 230 pounds, was a four-year letterman who started 45 of 52 career games at the University of Texas while earning All-Big 12 honors on three occasions. He posted 235 tackles (148 solo), 25 tackles for loss and 4.5 sacks in his collegiate career. In 2008, Bobino helped the Texas defense rank first in the conference in scoring defense (18.8 ppg.), total defense (342.9 ypg.), rushing defense (83.5 ypg.) and second in pass efficiency defense (124.2 rating). That season, he started 13 contests and tallied 39 tackles, one tackle for loss and one fumble recovery.
O.k. This makes 11 linebackers on the roster, 10 corners, 7 DE, 7 total FS/SS and 9 WR. Wow! Lotta competing going on at the Branch people.
cutter
May 13th, 2009
3:28 pm
Some 2nd and 3rd string fan favorites might be getting their walking papers.
jason
May 13th, 2009
3:31 pm
Competition, Competition, Competition. Breeds success…How many LBs, DBs, WRs can you take on a roster ? Game day, and full roster?
Unca' Bob
May 13th, 2009
3:34 pm
Strig & cutter,
All tidbits are good at this point. Lets quit talkin’ and Tee it up!!
Sarah B
May 13th, 2009
4:06 pm
Strig – that didn’t help my brain simply took the word “Grandma” and flipped it in to the word “Sarah’s”. Great info above on Jerry
cutter
May 13th, 2009
4:15 pm
87 total on roster now, preseason limit is 80 and regular season roster is limited to 53. 34 to cut or put on practice squad.
cutter
May 13th, 2009
4:16 pm
No limit by position just total.
cutter
May 13th, 2009
4:22 pm
8 limit for practice squad.
Lil'Dave
May 13th, 2009
4:28 pm
Here’s a little question I’ve been thinking about since last Saturdays mini camp. Who is going to return kicks and punts for us next season? HD was doing a fine job last year for returning punts; but is that wise for us to use our slot receiver in that role? Then I thought well Thomas Brown is our guy. Well just have to see how he recovers for that injury. But then it hit me like a ton of bricks..Middleton I think could take that role with Brown. Correct me if I’m wrong but did he run one of the fast times at the combine? Him and Owens I think posted really fast times. And I think Norwood has do a great job in this role but I hate seeing Special Team players unload on our second string RB. So, who do you guys want to see returning kicks this year? Norwood, Brown, Middleton, Owens, Harry? My vote is Brown and Middleton so far.
row3
May 13th, 2009
4:47 pm
Lil’Dave,
My vote is for a healthy Thomas Brown to serve as both punt and KO returner, A good way for him to make the roster, and protect key offensive players, HD and Wood.
cutter
May 13th, 2009
4:54 pm
At the combine Middleton 4.46 Owens 4.51. Kickoffs Norwood punts Douglas. They have proven they can get it done. I have no faith in Brown or Middleton as of yet.
Lil'Dave
May 13th, 2009
5:00 pm
I think Middleton has been clock as fast as 4.23 during a pro day i think. But I over heard someone saying that at the mini camp so I dont know how true it is.
jason
May 13th, 2009
5:04 pm
I like Brown with Norwood on kick-offs. Keep Douglas in in punt returns. Looks like that may be a spot of interest during pre season.
jason
May 13th, 2009
5:28 pm
cutter,at the positions i asked about, WR, LB, CB, FS, SS. What would be a good number as far as quality depth purposes. CB- 5-6, FS,SS-2 each +1 combination. WR ? 6? LB? Trying to see where ATL is leaning.
jason
May 13th, 2009
5:42 pm
Also, how does a team decide who to place on the practice squad?
D3
May 13th, 2009
6:10 pm
Great Hump-day Afternoon Bird-Cage Bro’s and Sis’s! Man, I couldn’t be happier seeing the ‘Cage rockin’ as strong as it is now. We’ll most likely hit the 400 post mark this evening, averaging almost 100 posts a day IN THE OFF-SEASON!!! Great to see how well the Bird-Cage is doing. So much to get to, so let’s hit it…….
Shockley vs. Redman vs. JPW – obviously as I have mentioned many, many times, I am very biased in favor of DJ Shockley as he’s one of my fav. players of all-time. I have a #3 Shockley Falcons Jersey in my closet for goodness sake. That being acknowledged, why would TD, Smitty, and Co. create a competition for the #3 QB spot? That just doesn’t make any sense to me whatsoever. Shockley has rightly earned his spot at #3 with two different coaching staffs. Any competition will be for the #2 spot. All of our fellow bloggers who say that Shockley won’t win a job because of experience miss the obvious example of Matt Cassel. They guy didn’t play live football since his high school days, sat on the bench in college and the pros, got his chance, and was worthy of a second round draft pick the Chiefs willingly gave up. If were happy with their current situation than they would’ve stayed with the status quo. It is the BACKUP QB positions we are discussing here. I could be dead wrong, but if they plan to change anything, my thinking would be to change the entire order, rather than to create competition for the #3 QB spot. JMHO.
Ken Strick & jason – what’s up fellas? This question may answer some of your question, at least in part: Do we want to pay $4 million to a player to sit on the bench? Redman signed that deal before the 2008 Draft with the intent of competing for the starting QB position. Now that we have solidified that, we can get younger and cheaper in the process. 2 Million in cap space goes along way, especially when we’re getting ready to re-sign White AND Norwood. Redman could definitely go compete for a starting spot at several franchises: SF & Minnesota just to name a few.
JohnWayne – you got it. DJ gives us endless possibilities if we ever decided to mix it up. We ran the Wildcat with Norwood to limited success, because there actually needs to be a threat of true pass coming down the field.
row3 – excellent, excellent point on using Shockley as #2. As we mentioned last night, the #3 QB can only play in the case of emergency. That plays into my crackpot theory of eventually releasing Redman and his $4 million salary. No knock on him, because he is a fine QB, just too high to sit on the bench, IMO.
Unca’ Bob – I have absolutely no idea on what happened with that crazy post mix-up. This blog definitely has a mind of its own most of the time.
jason – what’s up my sports-homer brother? Concerning Clabo, he is a restricted free agent and any offer another team gave him, we would have the chance to match. Yeah, its crazy about the little one; sometimes he can do great, and other nights not so much.
Sarah B. – all the power to you on your boys! Hey, we can’t complain with the 2 sets of cheerleaders, dance squads, and commercials.
cutter – what’s up brother? Thanks for the updates, at least we get them from somewhere. Just curious: do you have a favorite college team?
Lil’ Dave – good question posed. Smitty & Co. should definitely examine all possibilities with kickoff and punt returners. We should definitely remember that we only have 4 legit receivers after trading Robinson. Meaning that HD figures to play a HUGE role in the offense this year, and if he were to get hurt we’re all of a sudden really short at WR. Same with Norwood. HD wasn’t the set returner until Adam “muff-punt” Jennings sealed the deal with that debacle in Philly. HD doesn’t need to do return kicks and punts, IMO. Too much exposure to injury, IMO.
More to come……….
80 DAYS AND COUNTING TO 2009 ATLANTA FALCONS TRAINING CAMP!!!!!!
WR
May 13th, 2009
6:34 pm
Unca’Bob, I’m going to take a script from your pages here,I just got back on the blog and it appeared we had a chip and dale forum going on with people talking about watching men slap the back of their legs during the games.
WR
May 13th, 2009
6:42 pm
Stirg, do you have a link for the sports page you were talking about earlier. Whoever came up with the idea of Shockley in the wildcat could be on to something.DJ in the Wildcat brings up enormous capabilities. Does anyone remember that last year when Norwood lined up in the wildcat the sportscasters actually called it the Dirty Bird alignment.
WR
May 13th, 2009
6:44 pm
Blog monster has struck again
jason
May 13th, 2009
7:00 pm
D3, man when you post, you POST !!! How,s it going today? I think the “wildcat”/ “dirtyBird” Formation might just give DJ the edge at back up QB. His ability to throw, scramble, throw on the run… Endless possibilities. Every team in the NFL has some type of wildcat.you will see “MOBILE” QBs in collage get a shot in the nfl at their natural position who otherwise would never be afforded the oppurtunity thanks to the wildcat. RandelEl would be QB now instead of a WR.
Then you will see even more smaller LBs, and Safties occupying Defenses across the NFL to sto this formation. I think the versitality of this formation will be what allows it to stick in the NFL.
jason
May 13th, 2009
7:03 pm
WR, I didn’t know there was such a post. I know we were talking about it the past couple of days here in the Bird Cage. I think the coversation started on the first page. Hmmm, who do we give credit to for that idea?
Stirg d'Nahsif
May 13th, 2009
7:25 pm
http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/2009/04/nfl-draft-first-round-breakdown/
WR
May 13th, 2009
7:40 pm
Stirg, thanks for the link
Jason, I was thinking the same thing, with the speed and strength of players nowadays coordinators have to come up with new gimmicks and wrinkles.
JohnWaynesworld
May 13th, 2009
7:50 pm
Yea DJ in the “Talon” formation! Like Pat White but bigger with experience and a stronger arm. Not as fast though. I’ll tell you what though, it will be interesting to watch Pat White in the wildcat or white cat. He’s gonna do great hopefully the week AFTER we play them.
I always hated the last cut down. There was always someone in there that I really wanted to make the team. But it is good to know there are other opportunities out there for those guys. Hopefully not on the team opposing us though! I hate that. For instance when we play the Sain’ts or Carolina. There are some of my favorite college players, like Thomas Davis or Charles Grant on those two teams and I hate when they do so well against us. But I’m glad they are doing well.
I like Thomas Brown to at least make the special teams. He will prove them all wrong (once again) and show them all that he is the hardest worker on the entire team. I don’t care who returns punts as long as they have iron vice grips for hands. And no fear.
jason
May 13th, 2009
7:56 pm
The one former UGA player that I wish played for ATL would be Thomas Davis. If Davis played for ATL, would he be a LB, or have stayed at Safety. I love my Dawgs and root for them whereever they are except when thay play the Falcons.
D3
May 13th, 2009
8:14 pm
My San Diego Chargers 2009 Analysis:
Offense
San Diego looks to have a huge year in 2009 after having a terrible couple of months in 2008, rallying, and coming up big to beat the Colts and move into the second round of the playoffs with their best player. They were 2nd in the NFL in points scored per game (27.4) without a healthy LT. Darren Sproles will definitely get many touches after his studly performance in the playoffs. A true thunder and lightning with LT and Sproles. Chris Chambers had a solid year, Vincent Jackson continues to develop, and Philip Rivers carried that team for many games last year. Malcom Floyd gives them another big target (6′5). Gates gets healthy and back to Pro-Bowl Form.
Defense
By all accounts, the Chargers had a bad year, especially after being one of the most dominant D’s in the league. They did lose DE Igor to the Cowboys, but they added a perfect complement to their system in Larry English. Shaun Phillips might be possible moving to DE, which will give them tons of options with Merriman’s return. They look to dominate the AFC West, close to sweeping it.
1 Sep 14 SD @ OAK – Win
2 Sep 20 BAL @ SD – Win
3 Sep 27 MIA @ SD – Win
4 Oct 04 SD @ PIT – Loss
5 Bye
6 Oct 19 DEN @ SD – Win
7 Oct 25 SD @ KC – Win
8 Nov 01 OAK @ SD – Loss, upset & only division loss
9 Nov 08 SD @ NYG – Loss
10 Nov 15 PHI @ SD – Win
11 Nov 22 SD @ DEN – Win
12 Nov 29 KC @ SD – Win
13 Dec 06 SD @ CLE – Win
14 Dec 13 SD @ DAL – Win
15 Dec 20 CIN @ SD – Win
16 Dec 25 SD @ TEN – Loss
17 Jan 03 WAS @ SD – Loss; Rest Starters after long winning division
Weak Schedule, Healthy LT & Gates = Huge OFF, Rebound D + English;
Final: 11-5, Division Champs
2009 Bird-Cage Division/Team & Final Standings Competition
Unca’ Bob
Broncos: 5-11
Chargers: 11-5
WR
Broncos: 5-11
Chargers: 10-6
Sarah B.
Broncos: 6-10
Chargers: 13-3
Lil’ Dave
Broncos: 7-9
jason
Broncos: 8-8
Chargers: 12-4
row3
Broncos: 7-9
Chargers: 10-6
JohnWaynesWorld
Broncos: 8-8
Chargers: 10-6
Stirg
Broncos: 6-10
Ed
Broncos: 5-11
D3
Broncos: 7-9
Chargers: 11-5
JJ
Broncos: 2-14
JJ, Stirg, Ed, Lil’ Dave, and anyone else join in on the fun. Ken Strick, Cutter, Nookah, Seminole, Gatorzone, where ya’ll at?
jason
May 13th, 2009
8:21 pm
D3, i am the only one who has them going 12-4. I wanted to pick them to sweep the division, but that is hard to do. I have them losing on the road to KC. They are going to be dangerous once in the playoffs.
cutter
May 13th, 2009
8:47 pm
D3- Well I played DE for the Razorbacks years ago but now that I’m in Ga. and you know who coaches the Razorbacks it would have to be UGA.
Stirg d'Nahsif
May 13th, 2009
9:27 pm
I said I wasn’t going to get into this debate about the backup QB situation that has been presented. To me, its not that much of a situation. In fact, its a good situation. Release, trade, cut or renegotiate Redman’s contract and make DJ number two. I suggest this because I think I know what y’all talking about, with this new “Wildcat” thing. I watched a little of the Dolphins last year and thought “that’ll never work, in the NFL.” Boy, was I ever wrong. I should have stated “that’ll never work without the right personnel, in the NFL.” The same post that WR asked me about earlier (The National Football Post), did a breakdown of the second round, where the Dolphins took Pat White. They offered this:
Picks I like from a scheme perspective…
QB Pat White, Miami Dolphins
I wouldn’t be doing this post justice if I didn’t include White in this portion of the breakdown. I took quite a bit of flack from some readers for penciling in White as the Dolphins’ second-round pick in most of my mock drafts. I guess the brass in Miami thought the idea of White in their wildcat offense was just too intriguing to pass up. Can you imagine all the wrinkles quarterbacks coach David Lee is going to come up with now that White is in the fold? The wildcat was tough enough to stop, but now, with a legitimate running and throwing option in the form of White, things could be interesting for AFC East defenses. White has also developed significantly over the past year as a pocket passer, so it isn’t out of the question for him to eventually become the Dolphins’ starting quarterback.
Now, Bird fans, I ask you to remove Pat White’s name and enter D.J. Shockley (omit the sentence that says “(he’ll)…eventually become the…starting quarterback.). DJ would be a perfect fit and get some playing time. You’re right, jason, we need to discover who, first, suggested this idea and give that man credit. (Wasn’t it you, Unca’ Bob?)
falcon21
May 13th, 2009
9:34 pm
Wow was I behind! Sorry guys and gal but I have been busy. I have read a lot of good comments and have enjoyed every minute of it. D3 I see where the blog monster got you as I re-read and got caught up. GO Falcons and forgive me but GO Dawgs!!!
D3
May 13th, 2009
9:35 pm
Great Evenin’ Cagers! Rolling towards to the weekend. Bravo’s on a little bit of a roll, eh? Took both series from Phillies and Mets on road; maybe they’re turning it around a little. But we’re here for one thing only >> Football…….
jason – yep, I was going to go with 12-4 originally, but it was hard for me to get the Chargers to sweep their division. I’d like to see how many times that actually happened in NFL history. I was going to have them getting beat by Denver, but I already had them beating the Broncos twice.
cutter – sweet man. Mad props on playing at a major SEC school. My respect level was already high for you, but it just skyrocketed. Nice. I actually liked Arkansas before J—@$$ moved there. I’ll never know why they got rid of Houston Nutt. It all worked out great for us though, so now some of my bitterness has passed.
Question to all the ‘Cagers: Do you think there are bloggers who read the posts but never actually post themselves? Just curious.
A little research on the breakdown of roster spots by position, according to last year as of Sept.12th, 2008:
- 5 defensive ends
- 4 defensive tackles
- 6 linebackers
- 5 cornerbacks
- 4 safeties
- 6 wide receivers
- 9 offensive linemen
- 3 tight ends
- 3 quarterbacks
- 5 running backs
- 1 kicker
- 1 punter
- 1 long snapper
Interesting on how that will affect this years roster.
Tomorrow
Weekly Division: AFC West
Team: Kansas City Chiefs
Sarah B
May 13th, 2009
10:02 pm
WR – I thought you agreed to give me my space with the back of the leg slapping and all? I mean really it wasn’t like I went on and on and I still seem to be the only (I would say girl but… not really a girl anymore) female in the cage… oh do we really have to do the rest of this pitiful division? OK – up next KC. We’ll do it in the morning when I have more energy.
Sarah B
May 13th, 2009
10:14 pm
Stirg – yeah thanks for the link earlier. I clicked it and guess who was posted on there… none other then our DOL with a brief update on Roddy White’s contract deal, what?? He couldn’t tell us first? Just saying…
falcon21
May 13th, 2009
10:20 pm
Sarah, I really enjoy your comments and you have good football knowledge. Sorry about the gal thing, I should have said girl or football fan!
Sarah B
May 13th, 2009
10:28 pm
falcon21 – I don’t mind gal, that’s southernly very acceptable. At least you didn’t say sugar or honey, HA HA I just cracked myself up because I hear that crap soooooo much.
Stirg d'Nahsif
May 13th, 2009
10:35 pm
Sarah, you’re in the south now. What about “shawty”?
I, too, peeped D.O.’s contribution to the National Football Post and felt the same way. I mean, I know you a celebrity now, and all, but you aint got to act like Rogers Nelson or somebody. Dag.
Anywho, let me play the game…
1 Sep 14 SD @ OAK W
2 Sep 20 BAL @ SD W
3 Sep 27 MIA @ SD L
4 Oct 04 SD @ PIT L
5 Bye
6 Oct 19 DEN @ SD W
7 Oct 25 SD @ KC W
8 Nov 01 OAK @ SD W
9 Nov 08 SD @ NYG L
10 Nov 15 PHI @ SD L
11 Nov 22 SD @ DEN W
12 Nov 29 KC @ SD W
13 Dec 06 SD @ CLE W
14 Dec 13 SD @ DAL L
15 Dec 20 CIN @ SD W
16 Dec 25 SD @ TEN W
17 Jan 03 WAS @ SD W
I think LT is out to prove something this year; actually, he’s out to prove alot. We all know that today’s offense requires a two-headed monster in the backfield and LT/Sproles is one of the best one-two punches in the NFL (besides The Burner and The Flame, of course).
I’ve always questioned, “with so many all-stars, why is San Diego so consistently unsuccessful in the post-season?” They have the perfect compliments to each other in the backfield (Rivers, LT and Sproles) and they have a solid offensive line. When I look at their passing game, they have the best tight-end duo in the NFL but that’s it, they have no serious threats out wide; however, with their high-powered offense, the receivers will see a lot of man matchups.
The defense is going to be as potent as the offense. Any team with an all-star tandem at corners, that can man up on an island, is bound to be a top ten ranked defense.
San Diego Charges: 11-5
falcon21
May 13th, 2009
10:41 pm
Thanks Sarah, I was hopeing I didn’t make you mad. You go SUGAR, just kidding! Falcon fans for life.
WR
May 13th, 2009
10:44 pm
Sarah, I have to crack a joke every now and then, keeps things interesting. Its nice having a female on the blog I think most of us get a kick out of your baby daddy, comments its funny fun and like I said keeps the blog interesting.
Stirg, I think JohnWaynesWorld or Jason came up with the idea of DJ being utilized in the wildcat formation, not sure though.
WR
May 13th, 2009
10:50 pm
Sarah, by the way do you visit the waffle house often hun. Its funny how being from the south I feel as though I rarely hear the sugar, honey,hun,sweetie, comments except at the waffle house. But people from up north seem to hear it all the time. I wonder have I gotten so use to it that I don’t pay it much attention, god I wonder do I say it without knowing.
jason
May 13th, 2009
10:59 pm
SarahB, I feel tha same with this pitiful AFC West.
Stirg d’Nahsif, I was saying the same thing about SD’s WRs. Imagine if they had a… Maclin, someone who could stretch the field; go deep.
Wr, If I mentioned DJ in the wildcat, I didn’t realize. I get so caught up reading everyone’s post I lose track of what I posted. If I did, it’s because of like D3, DJ holds a special place in my DAWG heart. If there’s a way to get him on the field, you gotta hope ATL will go for it.
Well Guys and Lady, KC is on tap tomorrow. Thank goodness I have one more day to try and figure out what to say about the Raiders. Kc, I think is going to be an interesting team with the personelle changes they made. See you all tomorrow in the CAGE.
Sarah B
May 13th, 2009
11:00 pm
WR – I love the Waffle House and yes I really hear it there but it’s OK – I love the Waffle House!! 2 eggs over light, wheat toast and hash browns scattered. Ummmmm…
Also, not that I really wanted to say this out loud but, I’m well endoud so it is said to my chest a lot… which used to bother me but now I find funny at this age. Which I won’t mention.
Sarah B
May 13th, 2009
11:05 pm
Stirg – I LOVE Shawty…
falcon21
May 13th, 2009
11:07 pm
Come on Sarah, 27 ain’t old! Another southern word -ain’t!!!
Sarah B
May 13th, 2009
11:08 pm
falcon21 – I’m running with 27!!! And I like Ain’t
Sarah B
May 13th, 2009
11:10 pm
BYW – I’ve been here since ‘85
falcon21
May 13th, 2009
11:19 pm
I guess that makes you 24. Never been good in math!!!
Sarah B
May 13th, 2009
11:21 pm
OK – I’m out I’ll be back about 9 tomorrow.
WR
May 13th, 2009
11:25 pm
Quiet night in the cage, except for a couple of boobies not much posting going on. Well I guess its on to KC tomorrow, good thing we have Oakland on friday, people probably will be going out and won’t care to think much about their post, and the Raiders don’t require much thinking.
falcon21
May 13th, 2009
11:37 pm
Sorry WR, we will get more serious tomorrow!
Sarah B
May 13th, 2009
11:52 pm
Well, I had to sneak one more peek in. WR – your’re welcome for the boobies. I’ll be back tomorrow for the KC losing record. Nite all for real. From June 3-10 I’ll be blogging from Vegas – going to visit a friend since it won’t quit raining here. I need to lay by a pool.
D3
May 13th, 2009
11:56 pm
WR – yeah, I agree that its pretty much just boiled down to a few of us at this point: me, you, Lil’ Dave, Stirg, Sarah B, jason, row3, Unca’ Bob, falcon21, johnwaynesworld,cutter, occasionally Ken Strick, JJ, & Nookah. Which is a pretty good group of core loyalists, and a few fellas are probably on a little hiatus: I know Seminole had to go to North Carolina for the weekend. Hadn’t heard from dacha, Dean21, Marko, irvin, and Falcon Devil in awhile.
I think that some of our guys don’t really get into the non-Falcons football talk. I don’t know. I think your idea has been da’ BOMB! We’re averaging like almost 100 posts a day. Any ideas on getting our boys back in the ‘Cage? That’s why I asked about people reading and not posting. I’d say between us loyalists and the occasional, we probably have a good solid 30 or so that are in the mix on a consistent basis. Personally, I’m lovin’ the excitement, engagement, and activity of the ‘Cage.
D3
May 14th, 2009
12:04 am
d@—, how could I forget The Mock Draft Champ – Reno911. Where the H has he been?
Gatorzone, Ed, and Cameron as well.
Stirg d'Nahsif
May 14th, 2009
12:11 am
D3, lets try the same analysis for the teams we have to play. If we analyze one team each week (13 teams total), it’ll lead us right into the season. Say we start with Miami (instead of KC tomorrow), our first week opponent, and breakdown their strengths, weaknesses and off-season acquisitions. We can even do matchups with corners and wide receivers (that’ll be interesting).
I think a lot of us are just reading and not posting. To be honest with you, who has interest out side of the Falcons? I, for one, certainly don’t. I’m not that much of a football fan; I’m a Georgia boy and I love my Georgia teams. I think you’ll fing more interest and participation.
jason
May 14th, 2009
12:26 am
Someone asked earlier about people reading and not posting. I read for a couple of weeks, and then when draft weekend blew up; you guys went off. Ever since then I have been posting. So, I’m sure there are alot of people out there in cyber world reading.
Stirg d’Nahsif, I agree. It probably would be more interesting looking over ATL’s opponets. The damage we could do by looking at one team for a week. As you, I am a casual NFL fan. I only nutt up when I am watching ATL; as far as the NFL goes. ( don’t get me started on my DAWGS) But at the same time, I am also growing more interest in the NFL. The stratagey side anyway. But I’m cool with whatever. I can talk Falcons, Dawgs, and my Syrupmakers all day long. Since I live in Texas, hard to find some Georgia sports fans round these parts. So, whinchever way you want to take this ride; I’m following. We can go straight ATL, or NFL, I’m cool with it.
Later guys, be on when I wake up in the morning. I’m on vacation for the next week and a half. Nothing to do but catch up on some house duties, hit some golf balls, and hang out in the Bird Cage.
Big Ray
May 14th, 2009
12:45 am
WHAT’S UP GUYS????!!!!! …..Guys..?
Talk about being late for a party. I’m so behind, and y’all have been going post-crazy (which is good to see), so it took me a while to catch up, and I’m not sure I’m caught up. Guess I’ll summarize in short sentences.
Cutter,
Your tidbits were great. Any and all info in the offseason is helpful.
Sarah B,
Nice to have a lady on board. Welcome!
Stirg,
I see you your competitive fires are still burning strong. Good points you made there.
WR,
Good counterpoints.
D3,
If there is anybody who is more addicted to this new brand of Falcon Nation, I haven’t met them.
Nobody organizes the competitions like you do. Keep it going strong!
The word I’m getting on Chris Owens is that he has great speed, but gets fooled and/or shaken out there from time to time. Okay. So he’ll receive some coaching. As long as he’s a reasonably quick study and a hard worker, he’ll be fine.
I don’t know just how good Thomas Decoud is right now, but he better have on eye on the ball, one eye on the quarterback, and one eye on William Moore. Oops, only got two eyes…The good news is that the competition level will make them BOTH better.
I really hope Peria Jerry and Trey Lewis can stay healthy. We really need them.
Peace out everybody!
row3
May 14th, 2009
12:52 am
The Question was, who first suggested DJ running the wildcat offense? It first hit home with me reading D3’s QB comparison posted May 11 @ 11:44. Thats when the whole QB3 eligibilty came into question. I know I can count on everyone’s knowledge and insight on this blog to come up with the answer’s to some tough questions that arise. I enjoy the intresting conversation and opinion’s these blog’s provide.
Thanks, Cagers
D3
May 14th, 2009
1:04 am
Stirg – yeah, I understand that a bit. I guess I’m just an extreme Football junkie. I used to be strictly a Dawgs/College Football fan when I was @ UGA. I was always a Falcon fan, but became obsessed when I moved to the ATL in 2004. I was the same way about Pro ball as well, until I started playing fantasy football and that unlocked the Pandora’s box of interest in the NFL. Especially as I’ve gotten older, I’ve become totally absorbed in All Football. Enough about me…..
My idea to keep the Bird-Cage rockin’ was to lay out a schedule of ideas to talk about through the dry spell from mini-camp to training camp. I wanted to supplement our Falcons talk with a little NFL in the idea that it’s a running competition for fun for all of us while learning about all the teams in the NFL. As far as participation goes, I think its at an all-time high up to 400 posts in 4 days is pretty good in my opinion, especially after looking at some of the other fan blogs. I actually had the idea of analyzing each opponent closer to the season.
Here’s an idea to appease the masses, see what you think:
Continue Division/Team Analysis & Final Standings Competition AND including Week-by-Week Falcons Opponents Analysis. How about this schedule:
14 total weeks
5/11 – 5/17 = AFC West & ATL vs. Miami
5/18 – 5/24 = AFC North & ATL vs. Carolina
5/25 – 5/31 = AFC East & ATL @ New England
6/1 – 6/7 = AFC South & ATL @ San Francisco
6/8 – 6/14 = NFC West & ATL vs. Chicago
6/15 – 6/21 = NFC East & ATL @ Dallas
6/22 – 6/28 = NFC North & ATL @ New Orleans
6/29 – 7/5 = NFC South & ATL vs. Washington
7/6 – 7/12 = ATL @ Carolina, NY Giants
7/13 – 7/19 = ATL @ Tampa Bay, Philadelphia
7/20 – 7/26 = ATL vs. New York Jets, Buffalo
7/27 – 8/2 = ATL vs. Tampa Bay
8/3 – 8/9 = Training Camp Starts
This will allow for our fans to do one or both if they please. I’m such a football junkie that I like both, but its not for everyone.
So what you guys think? I’m just trying to keep the MOJO going here in the Bird-Cage because its so much d@— fun!
D3
May 14th, 2009
1:08 am
Big Ray – great to have you back my man! How we’ve missed you so here in the Cage. I peeked over at your Hawks blog and d@— fine work my brother. I’m not a b-ball fan, per se, but I like the Hawks and your work over there was superb.
All right peeps, check out my new proposal and see what ya’ll think. Gotta get a little shut-eye since the House CEO is on lil’ WR shift. Have a good night fellas and see you on the flip side………
79 DAYS AND COUNTING TO 2009 ATLANTA FALCONS TRAINING CAMP!!!!
Ed
May 14th, 2009
1:48 am
1 Sep 14 SD @ OAK – W
2 Sep 20 BAL @ SD – W
3 Sep 27 MIA @ SD – W
4 Oct 04 SD @ PIT – L
5 Bye
6 Oct 19 DEN @ SD – W
7 Oct 25 SD @ KC – W
8 Nov 01 OAK @ SD – W
9 Nov 08 SD @ NYG – L
10 Nov 15 PHI @ SD – W
11 Nov 22 SD @ DEN – W
12 Nov 29 KC @ SD – W
13 Dec 06 SD @ CLE – W
14 Dec 13 SD @ DAL – L
15 Dec 20 CIN @ SD – W
16 Dec 25 SD @ TEN – W
17 Jan 03 WAS @ SD – W
13 – 3 Phillip Rivers is the real deal.
Ed
May 14th, 2009
3:14 am
Just so you know D3, I am a night owl as I work at night so most of my posts are after midnight. I meant to put it down that Moreno wins the AFC Rookie of the Year. Denver didn’t waste their first pick on him not to run him & Knowshon is going to be a hellava RB.
JJ
May 14th, 2009
6:33 am
SD 12 – 4
Unca' Bob
May 14th, 2009
6:47 am
Strig, Ref: “Raptor” Formation
No Sir, it was not I. I did some backing and on the first page of this blog Ken Srickland had posted it. It was placed May 11, at 12:50 AM. After re-reading Ken’s post, it makes more sense than ever. He nailed it!
D3
May 14th, 2009
6:52 am
Wonderful Thursday A.M. my Bird-Cage Bro’s & Sis’s! Thursday is definitely one of my favorite days of the week. It stems back from my high school playing days, the day before the big game and walk-throughs, extended to college and Thursday was the opening party shot for the weekend, and I’ve digressed. On to my favorite hobby…….
Changes – we’re going to continue our Division/Team Analysis & Final Standings Competition for us crazy Football junkies, but on Stirg’s excellent suggestion we’re also adding some Falcons flavor to the mix because, after all, this IS a Falcons Blog. Enjoy both or just one. In addition to the NFL Competition, we’ll be breaking down a Falcons opponent each week leading up to Training Camp in August.
See what you guys think of this schedule, any and all suggestions/changes are encouraged. The ‘Cage is a community:
5/11 – 5/17 = AFC West & ATL vs. Miami
5/18 – 5/24 = AFC North & ATL vs. Carolina
5/25 – 5/31 = AFC East & ATL @ New England
6/1 – 6/7 = AFC South & ATL @ San Francisco
6/8 – 6/14 = NFC West & ATL vs. Chicago
6/15 – 6/21 = NFC East & ATL @ Dallas
6/22 – 6/28 = NFC North & ATL @ New Orleans
6/29 – 7/5 = NFC South & ATL vs. Washington
7/6 – 7/12 = ATL @ Carolina, NY Giants
7/13 – 7/19 = ATL @ Tampa Bay, Philadelphia
7/20 – 7/26 = ATL vs. New York Jets, Buffalo
7/27 – 8/2 = ATL vs. Tampa Bay
8/3 – 8/9 = Training Camp Starts
Atlanta Opponent Match-Ups
Stirg’s Analysis Idea:
-breakdown their strengths, weaknesses and off-season acquisitions
-individual position match-ups
-potential starters
-must win/potential loss
-prediction (outcome & score)
What ya’ll think?
JJ
May 14th, 2009
6:57 am
http://myespn.go.com/blogs/nfcsouth/0-11-64/NFC-South-D-line-coaches-face-big-challenges.html
Good article on nfc south D-line, no mention of T.Lewis though.
D3
May 14th, 2009
7:16 am
2009 Bird-Cage Division/Team Analysis & Final Competition
Weekly Division: AFC West
Today’s Team: Kansas City Chiefs
(OK, maybe the AFC West wasn’t the best to start with)
2009 Kansas City Chiefs Schedule
1 Sep 13 KC @ BAL
2 Sep 20 OAK @ KC
3 Sep 27 KC @ PHI
4 Oct 04 NYG @ KC
5 Oct 11 DAL @ KC
6 Oct 18 KC @ WAS
7 Oct 25 SD @ KC
8 Bye
9 Nov 08 KC @ JAC
10 Nov 15 KC @ OAK
11 Nov 22 PIT @ KC
12 Nov 29 KC @ SD
13 Dec 06 DEN @ KC
14 Dec 13 BUF @ KC
15 Dec 20 CLE @ KC
16 Dec 27 KC @ CIN
17 Jan 03 KC @ DEN
Potential Starters to come.
jason
May 14th, 2009
8:25 am
Good morning people. I am on vacation. got to sleep in a little bit. First topic, the ‘Raptor” Formation. I don’t know who exactly said it first but D3 and Ken both hit the nail on the head about DJ being perfect for it. D3, like you I was always a UGA fan growing up. I liked the Falcons, but UGA was my team. Throughout school I always had my football season set up. Fri. was Cairo, Sat/ UGA, Sun/ ATL. I look back at those days and see the history assiociated with the Falcons. I know about the not winning back to back seasons. I look to players in that era. QB Bartkowski, RBs Andrews and Cain. TE Junior Miller. WRs the 2 Alfreds Jenkins and James. Buddy Curry at MLB. Those were the days. The ‘Hail Mary” Steve Bartkowski through to Billy “White Shoes” Johnson against the 49ers. We could never beat those guys. The beat goes on with players such as a personal favorite Scott Case, Tuggle, Riggs, Settle through Mike Rozier , Chris Miller, The early “neon” Deion days. Deion was great in his younger years with the Falcons. I know, I know just Rambling on and on. I know this may make me a young Falcon fan but the first game I can remember was the NFC Championship against Dallas. All I knew at the time was Dallas won. A couple of years ago I watched that game on ESPN Classic. Litterly sat up to around 3AM remenicing the good old days. There was a saying that UGA used a couple of years ago. I thnk it was ” I am Georgia” Someone can correct me. But the point being… “I am Georgia” and like alot of fans on this board “We are Georgia” in the sense that alot of us are Die Hard UGA fans as well as Atlanta Falcons. If it is Georgia sports related we are amid all the talk. Whether it ATLFAL, UGA, Braves, Hawks; we are there. I have talked enough. Gotta take some time to put up my KC Synopsis. See ya in a few.
jason
May 14th, 2009
8:27 am
JJ, Isaw similar article on CNNSI that talked about Jerry and Babineaux. Lfet Try out also. People are going to be susprised this year if he is back to 100%. Not let up when Trey Lewis enters the game.
Unca' Bob
May 14th, 2009
8:35 am
2009 Kansas City Chiefs Schedule
1 Sep 13 KC @ BAL L
2 Sep 20 OAK @ KC W
3 Sep 27 KC @ PHI L
4 Oct 04 NYG @ KC L
5 Oct 11 DAL @ KC L
6 Oct 18 KC @ WAS L
7 Oct 25 SD @ KC L
8 Bye
9 Nov 08 KC @ JAC W
10 Nov 15 KC @ OAK L
11 Nov 22 PIT @ KC L
12 Nov 29 KC @ SD L
13 Dec 06 DEN @ KC L
14 Dec 13 BUF @ KC W
15 Dec 20 CLE @ KC W
16 Dec 27 KC @ CIN L
17 Jan 03 KC @ DEN L
4-12
D3
May 14th, 2009
9:05 am
Kansas City Projected Starters
Offense
QB – Matt Cassel
RB – Larry Johnson/Kolby Smith
FB – Mike Cox?
WR – Dwayne Bowe
WR – Bobby Engram
TE – Brad Cottam
LT – Branden Albert
LG – Brian Waters
C – Rudy Niswanger
RG – Mike Goff
RT – Damion McIntosh
Defense (3-4)
NT – Glenn Dorsey
DE – Tyson Jackson
DE – Tamba Hali
OLB – Mike Vrabel
ILB – Zach Thomas
ILB – Derrick Johnson ?
OLB – Demorrio Williams?
CB – Brandon Flowers
CB – Brandon Carr
SS – Bernard Pollard
FS – Dajuan Morgan?
K – Connor Barth
P – Dustin Colquitt
WR
May 14th, 2009
9:22 am
D3, I just read your post from last night, and if you want to change it up thats cool but after reading your post I went back over the earlier blogs and except for the actual draft blog, we are above pace postings wise. I think the major difference is that some core members have been missing,Seminole,Nookah,Falcon devil,etc. But if you look at the postings now we have picked up more members and eventually those guys will return. Nookah already is beginning to post whenever he can,Seminole told us he would be gone for a while but i’m pretty sure he will return. Big Ray is back in the house, and just look at Un’ca Bob,Jason,JJ,and Sarah B, they are now fixtures in the cage, we haven’t had anything new from D-Led since sunday yet the cage is up to 400 post.Beyond that the blog has ran off the hate mongers, now each and everytime you log on to the blog you just expect good conversation pieces,topics,or arguments to debate. Just glance at some of the other blogs and you will see how far we have come, the cage has become a forum for intelligent football talk, its almost like family now. Perfect example, when myself and Stirg were going back and forth with the Abe talk, you had some people join in the debate to add their opinion, when things appeared to be getting heated you had members jumping in to crack a joke about the situation, some as yourself, just reminded us to remember we are all family in the cage. Once the smoke cleared you could see that it was still all about the cage and I say that speaks volumes for what its going to be like in here once training camp and eventually the season start.
Stirg d'Nahsif
May 14th, 2009
9:31 am
WR, maybe You and I need to pick a fight to get things heated up again. What’d You say?
Let’s see, who can I pick on today. I got it…Roddy White wears a dress in the offseason.
Sarah B
May 14th, 2009
9:38 am
D3 I also went from fan – mostly just Falcons & playoffs to junkie when they started a fantasy league here at work 5 years ago. You hit the nail on the head when you called it Pandora’s Box. It turns you into a complete junkie. We play on Yahoo which has Live Stattracker, which we call CrackTracker it’s that bad and you can not quit. Which is one reason I’m lovin this it’s like practice for FF because we have to watch who went where and the rookies anyway. But I digress. On to KC – Ugg…
2009 Kansas City Chiefs Schedule
1 Sep 13 KC @ BAL – L
2 Sep 20 OAK @ KC – W
3 Sep 27 KC @ PHI – L
4 Oct 04 NYG @ KC – L
5 Oct 11 DAL @ KC – W Only shocking win of the season – gut feeling
6 Oct 18 KC @ WAS – L
7 Oct 25 SD @ KC – L
8 Bye
9 Nov 08 KC @ JAC – L
10 Nov 15 KC @ OAK – L
11 Nov 22 PIT @ KC – L
12 Nov 29 KC @ SD – L
13 Dec 06 DEN @ KC – L
14 Dec 13 BUF @ KC – W
15 Dec 20 CLE @ KC – W
16 Dec 27 KC @ CIN – L
17 Jan 03 KC @ DEN – L
4-12
Although Cassel could shock us, but we took his best receiver…
D3
May 14th, 2009
9:42 am
2009 Kansas City Chiefs
Offense
The poor Chiefs: they fired their coach, gm, lost their best pro-bowl player(to us H— Yeah!), and their next best OFF option wants out (LJ). Well, they sure have a serious rebuilding job to accomplish. Scott Pioli will turn them into a winner, but it’ll probably take awhile. They trade for a franchise QB in Matt Cassel which was a good move, especially only giving up a 2nd rounder, but they have serious issues elsewhere. Larry Johnson approaches 30 and has had lousy back-to-back seasons. Dwayne Bowe has great potential and should blossom with Cassel, but he doesn’t have TG taking away coverage now. Bobby Engram and Darling don’t strike fear in anyone at WR. And there new TE is……Brad Cottam, good potential but really ENORMOUS shoes to fill.
Defense
They have some good young talent at several areas and Mike Vrabel immediately upgrades that D, on and off the field. The problem is they change to a 3-4. Tyson Jackson helps that transition, but what to do with Glenn Dorsey and Tamba Hali? Neither fit the 3-4 extremely well. Is Derrick Johnson now an ILB or OLB? Two solid young corners, but who will start at FS? Too many question marks. I’m not completely sold on Todd Haley either. After seeing that embarrassing blow-up with Boldin in the playoffs, the guy is too much of a hothead to be a HC, IMO. Luckily, they live in a weak, weak division.
1 Sep 13 KC @ BAL(Loss)
2 Sep 20 OAK @ KC(Win)
3 Sep 27 KC @ PHI(Loss)
4 Oct 04 NYG @ KC(Loss)
5 Oct 11 DAL @ KC(Win), this starts the DAL slide
6 Oct 18 KC @ WAS(Loss)
7 Oct 25 SD @ KC(Loss)
8 Bye
9 Nov 08 KC @ JAC(Loss)
10 Nov 15 KC @ OAK(Loss)
11 Nov 22 PIT @ KC(Loss)
12 Nov 29 KC @ SD(Loss)
13 Dec 06 DEN @ KC(Win)
14 Dec 13 BUF @ KC(Win)
15 Dec 20 CLE @ KC(Win)
16 Dec 27 KC @ CIN(Loss)
17 Jan 03 KC @ DEN(Loss)
Final: 5-11
Atlanta Falcons vs Miami Dolphins coming soon………
WR
May 14th, 2009
9:46 am
On to the K.C analysis, this team is somewhat a fairytale to me at this point. First off you have Matt Cassel who had never started at QB not even in college but he replaces an injured Tom Brady and all of a sudden he was the second coming of Joe Montana. Next you have the head coach,Todd Haley, never even heard of the guy until Arizona has a dream season, all of a sudden he’s a hot commodity. Both of these individuals may turn out to be great for K.C but I can’t help but wonder if Cassel was a system QB on a team that even got the volatile Randy Moss to buy in, or if Todd Haley is really head coach material considering we’re only talking about one breakout season for Arizona, but on to my picks:
1 KC@BAL-L
2 Oak@KC-W
3 KC@Phi-L
4 Nyg@KC-L
5 DAL@KC-W
6 KC@WAS-L
7 SD@KC–L
8 Bye–Showdown with Oakland for top five draft positioning brewing
9 KC@Jac-L
10KC@Oak-L
11Pitt@KC-L
12KC@SD–L
13Den@KC-W
14Buf@KC-L
15Cle@KC-W
16KC@Cin-L
17KC@Den-L
Chief 4-12
mars
May 14th, 2009
9:48 am
Mr. Ledbetter, thank you for maintaining a civil blog about Falcons football only. If only some of your colleagues were as responsible. After visiting Bradleys blog about Ryans approach to the season, I am shocked and saddened by the hatred and ignorance that persists over things that no longer matter. Now, about football. Still hate the unis. Our Falcons deserve better duds.
WR
May 14th, 2009
9:51 am
Stirg, I know your a heckler now so your going to have to try something different, maybe talk about a players momma, that usually gets a person from the south started.
Unca' Bob
May 14th, 2009
9:56 am
Strig,
Are you saying there is something wrong with wearing dresses??
WR,
Do you feel there will be a run on Falcon Coaches, both sides of the ball, if the Falcon’s have continued sucess?
D3
May 14th, 2009
9:58 am
WR – what’s up brother? Yeah, you’re exactly right about where the Bird-Cage has come in a very short while. Great to see the loyalists; creating it like a family atmosphere for sure. The posts have exploded out, which is awesome. I’m sure DOL is taking a break since there’s a lull with the Falcons and football in general. I’m such a Football junkie that I’d rather discuss any Football than watch other sports. I just hope I’m not giving the impression of “taking over the blog” or anything. I’m just excited about my new addiction, and what I’ve noticed with our past blogs is that they’ll be a big pop at the beginning of DOL’s new topic, but usually fizzles after so many arguments have been made. Thanks to you we’ve taken this blog to another level, IMO. I find it funny how much the blog’s changed in a matter of a couple months. When I used to peruse here before posting, there were usually very few posts and it was all about that hate-crap. Welcome to the new and improved Bird-Cage! Good work WR.
Sarah B
May 14th, 2009
10:01 am
Wow! You guys are on board with the Dallas upset??? I thought someone would have made fun of me by now but I’m glad. I just really have a gut feeling about Dallas this year…
Sarah B
May 14th, 2009
10:03 am
WR, yes the Yo Mamma thing usually works. Mark Cuban did it sucessfully in the Mavs/Nuggets game the other night.
dawes
May 14th, 2009
10:14 am
i think the falcon will win the super bowl
Unca' Bob
May 14th, 2009
10:20 am
D3,
When I started reading this blog, the haters were already gone. That is exactly why I’m still here. Like mars stated, there is some real, real ugly out there.
dawes
May 14th, 2009
10:25 am
i say 14 2 and top seed
WR
May 14th, 2009
10:31 am
Unca’Bob, I would say the coach I worry about leaving the most is Mike Murlarkey. The guy has done a good job everywhere he has been, but it seems that the new theme around the league is to go after the so call young and energetic coaches. My parents had a saying growing up “there’s nothing new under the sun”, I find that to be one of the truest statements I ever heard. Most of what goes on in today’s society and communities is a recycled version of what went on in the past. The same for football, you have all these new high-powered offenses with gimmicks like the wild cat, you have teams converting to the 3-4 because it supposedly gives you more options and confuses the offense but really nothing has changed, if a team can stop the run and run the ball effectively they have a chance to win in every game. To me thats what makes this coaching staff great, its a bunch of old school coaches that add a little innovation here and there but they basically stick to basic principles of football. I think that in itself keeps our coaching staff safe from teams making a run at our coaches for now. Now if Matt Ryan improves on last year even a little bit watch out for teams with young QB’s going after Bill Musgrave.
Stirg d'Nahsif
May 14th, 2009
10:35 am
I’ll be the first to go against the grain. I don’t want to belittle D3’s work because, brother, you’re doing an outstanding job by administering this. Again, its just that I’m such a Falcon loyalist, I just can’t seem to find the interest in any other team. I tried (many seasons), I even tried the teams that belong to the cities I lived in, at the time (Redskins, Ravens, Lions, LA Rams, Chargers, Saints, Jaguars, Panthers, etc…Wow, didn’t realize I traveled that much). That’s just me; and there is nothing wrong with being an NFL fan. I respect that. Still, my body only bleeds red and black.
So, if you don’t mind D3 (and fellow Cagers), I’d like to get started with analyzing our opponents. I’ll start with Miami (incidently, I see KC going 8-8 and just missing the last spot for the wild card).
Miami, I think, is underated. I say this because they looked very similar to Atlanta’s situation last year (new GM, new system, new quarterback, etc.). Still, I don’t think that they got fair recognition like the Falcons did (maybe because we did it with a rookie QB). They ended up atop their division, at 11-5, and that’s not easy to do with the Patriots, Jets and Bills in the same division. What confuses me, however, is that the Dolphins accomplished this feat with mediocre numbers on paper. Their leading rusher only had 916 yards and the leading receiver only caught for 790 yards. So how did they accomplish winning the division. Enter the “Wildcat”. I don’t think that the Wildcat is going to be the core of their offense this year (because opponents have enough tape on their game) but it will still be effective in situational plays (enter Pat White). Look for Atlanta to start William Moore and “Hip-Hip” Peria Jerry for the first game. I would rather defend the Wildcat with players that is most recently familiar with that offense, than with players that are more traditional with their defense. Also, expect Atlanta to show 3-4 defensive formations to defend it.
Offensively, our receiving corps is going to have a field day on their inexperienced and lowly regarded cornerbacks. Their defense ranked 25 in the NFL, against the pass. I certainly hope the Dolphins don’t attempt to start the rookies Vontae Davis and Sean Smith. If so, White and Jenkins are going to show why their value descended in the draft. The X-factor is going to be at TE (Gonzo, Hartsock and Peele). While teams plan to defend our rush attack and outside receivers, our tight end sets are going to confuse the hell out of them. I took a look at Miami’s premature depth chart and, man-to-man, I see Atlanta taking this game, because of home field advantage, but its going to take all four quarters to do it. Atlanta wins 13-16, at home.
Stirg d'Nahsif
May 14th, 2009
10:40 am
WR, can’t use “mama” jokes. I actually DO have a line that I don’t cross, believe it or not. I have enough love for my Mama and GrandMa that I’d GLADLY go to jail to defend any disrespect towards them. Considering that, I don’t offend anybody by attacking their Mamas.
Now, your drunk, deadbeat Daddy may be a different story. I’ll go through the Falcon roster and see if I can dig up a player that’s sensitive about the absence of a father. Give me a few days.
Stirg d'Nahsif
May 14th, 2009
10:56 am
I have to admit, fellows, doing a matchup with our first opponent (Dolphins vs. Falcons) was fun. I researched some data that was very intriguing. I feel like today is the Thursday before game-day and I’m scouting our competition of Sunday. Its fun; you should try it.
jason
May 14th, 2009
11:26 am
2009 Kansas City Chiefs Schedule
1 Sep 13 KC @ BAL L, tough season opener
2 Sep 20 OAK @ KC W, Slightly better team
3 Sep 27 KC @ PHI L, No love
4 Oct 04 NYG @ KC L, NYG beatdown
5 Oct 11 DAL @ KC L, Tough NFC East
6 Oct 18 KC @ WAS L, can’t run the ball
7 Oct 25 SD @ KC W, Susprise win
8 Bye
9 Nov 08 KC @ JAC W,
10 Nov 15 KC @ OAK L, KC looks shaky
11 Nov 22 PIT @ KC L, Super Bowl Champs…
12 Nov 29 KC @ SD L, SD revenge in a big way
13 Dec 06 DEN @ KC L, Wierd, home tean doesn’t have advantage
14 Dec 13 BUF @ KC W, Buffalo good, but not their yet
15 Dec 20 CLE @ KC L, Cle gets one of few wins
16 Dec 27 KC @ CIN L,Cincy Better than most think
17 Jan 03 KC @ DEN L, Read 13 DEC
4-12 Lot of close losses. I just don’t see where KC has any offense. Will Johnson be able to run the ball? Will Cassel Not be a one year wonder. I think he will be. He is on a bad team. No WR threat. There is not one player on this offense to be afraid of.
On the defense side. The front seven look to be solid if not spetacular. That unit will play good against the run. The DBs, I have never heard of them. That leads me to think their pass D. will be horrible at best. I don’t see where the QB pressure is gonna come from. Think they are missing Jared Allen about now? All in all the D has a chance to keep them in games for about a half. However, I don’t see this offense putting up much of a fight. 4-12 I picked. The first half of the seasons i think will be close losses. As the season wears on, I see those close losses becoming blowouts.
Lil'Dave
May 14th, 2009
11:29 am
Stirg – I’m going to get in on this Falcons vs Dolphins match up and like you I think I’m going to just stick to the Falcons opponents. KC maybe 5-11. I have to goto lunch real quick but when I return I’ll get back to the Falcons vs Dolphins.
cutter
May 14th, 2009
11:40 am
Atljbo in parts unknown writes: In your opinion who was the 5 most impressive players at the Falcons mini-camp ?
Pat Yasinskas: You didn’t set any parameters, but I’ll go off the beaten path and try to point out some guys beyond the obvious because I think you and fans want to hear more than “Matt Ryan had a great camp”, which he did. Some lesser names that stood out to me: receiver Harry Douglas (he made some downfield plays out of the slot), linebacker Stephan Nicholas (pencil him as the strong-side starter), defensive end Jamaal Anderson (say what you want about his first two seasons, but the guy is working hard to get better), Jerious Norwood (I think this is the year he actually gets some more carries) and safety Thomas DeCoud (the Falcons draft William Moore to start, but DeCoud’s not going to give up without a fight).
jason
May 14th, 2009
11:48 am
You guys no by now how much of a DAWG Homer I am. It pains me to see some of the derogative comments made on these blogs. Whether is Chip, Tim, Bill King, Terrance Moore, Bradley an d all… Just discusting UGH.
I used to go to other blogs, got aggravated. So, I would go back and read the story, and skim through the post to get to the writer’s retorts. I can’t even do that. You know the AJC shoild be able yo do something about all the crap that is being said. That’s why i am here in the CAGE. Even when there is an arguement like the JA situation… both poibts of view were expressed. Other opinions were posted, but there was a respect being exchanged between WR and Strig. That’s what I like about being here. The respect taht is handed out to anyone who wants to take part in the conversation. Keep doing the same guys. Continue the momentum. Maybe the BirdCage and the DOL can hit as big as Dave O’Brien’s Braves beat blog. The CEO is now calling so I will be out for a couple of hours. I’ll check back in for some more analysis on the Chiefs.
Stirg d'Nahsif
May 14th, 2009
12:03 pm
cutter, you have come through again. Good post, my man! It warms my heart that a professional writer states “pencil (Nicholas) as the strongside starter.” Don’t know what he did to increase his stock but the position has been a concern of mine. Peterson and Nicholas are going to make a perfect compliment to each other. Good work, cutter!
cutter
May 14th, 2009
12:18 pm
DJ Shockey vs Chris Redman vs John Parker Wilson
Chris Redman is currently the clear No. 2 guy behind Ryan. He’s a veteran who has been around for some time and can still help Ryan out when the time comes. I don’t think Redman will budge honestly. I think he’ll remain second in line behind Ryan because of his experience. However, his contract is almost up. The Falcons will have to soon decide who is more efficient- Chris Redman, or DJ Shockley.
Shockley brings something to the table that most QB’s typically don’t have. He offers mobility. When the pocket collapses, this is the guy you want behind your center. He has shown the ability to be at times elusive and get out of sticky situations using is feet.
However, he is somewhat of a streaky passer. He has a strong arm that can haul the ball down the field with the flick of the wrist. But, that means nothing when the ball ends up miles away from your receiver. If Shockey could become more accurate, and remain healthy he could find himself as a good quality backup behind a potential Hall of Fame QB in Ryan.
John Parker Wilson is the new kid on the block. If he can show that he can minimize his mistakes and learn from them he could end up competing for the No. 3 spot. It would also be good for him to display leadership skills, and respect his teammates. This may seem like something trivial but it really matters.
Another position battle of interest will be the safety position.
Thomas DeCoud vs William Moore
William Moore had an outstanding junior campaign in college and was looked at as a top ten draft pick. However, with an average senior year his stock plummeted and landed him in the second round to the Falcons.
But, if Moore can get back to his former ways, and display that ball-hawking ability he may end up being a steal. He has drawn comparisons to Brian Dawkins because of his tackling style and passion for the game. If Moore can show that he is indeed the real deal, the Falcons may have a legit replacement for Milloy in place for the next decade.
Thomas DeCoud was drafted in the third round of the 2008 NFL Draft. Coming out of college he was compared to Reggie Nelson, how he fearlessly sacrificed his body into opponents. He did a tremendous job on special teams and if he can have the same effect at the strong safety position, DeCoud may be a force to be reckoned with. He had a year to sit behind Lawyer Milloy and learn the etiquette’s of being a safety. If he learned anything last year, he needs to make it known.
Chris Owens vs Chevis Jackson vs Chris Houston
Chris Owens had a college career similar to Nnamdi Asomugha’s NFL career. For a while, QB’s refused to throw the ball on Owen’s side of the field. He was that good. However, on a professional level, Chris Owens lacks a few things. One being his height. He’s only 5′9 and will have trouble defending some of the taller receivers in the league.
He also didn’t play against top notch competition in college. However, outside of that he has great anticipation for the ball, and excellent recovery speed. He can pretty much read the receivers eyes and determine the play, putting himself in position for a pass deflection or interception.
If Owens can prove that he can do this on the Pro level, he will be a gem. There is a reason he was taken in the third round…someone had this guy high on their list. I believe his name might be Thomas Dimitroff who has a knack for finding good corners. If he can handle the NFL, he may emerge as a starter sooner than many expect.
Chevis Jackson had a good rookie season to be selected in the third round. He ran his first interception back for a touchdown against the Saints last year and he had interception in the playoff game against the Cardinals. He seems to have a nose for the ball and is always around it.
The only thing holding him up would be his speed. Speed can make or break a NFL corner, because once you have been beaten on a route, there is no turning back for some. It appears Jackson may end up settling for the nickel slot for the Falcons, which isn’t so bad when you think about what fits his skill level.
Chris Houston and Chevis Jackson may be opposites when you consider what both bring to the table. Chris Houston is a fast guy. Before he came into the league, at the combine he was considered one of, if not the fastest corner in the draft. He is relatively small, but he is very strong.
Houston’s problem lies with his defensive awareness. He doesn’t seem to have any. He can’t get his head turned around when playing a receiver. If he is left on an island with a top receiver then look out! I like Houston has a corner, and I believe he’s solid, but not quite a No. 1 guy. Obviously the Falcons aren’t too sure either. They have drafted three corners since Houston has taken over the starting corner position.
Fact is, I could go on and on about the position battles for the Falcons this year. The defensive end position appears to have a considerable amount of depth. The offensive line also may have some new battles taking place. But there is one thing we can be sure of, the Falcons will have their best men on the field.
Everyone will have an opportunity to showcase their skills and prove what they can do.
WR
May 14th, 2009
12:37 pm
Quite a few post ago someone brought up Nicholas at the strongside positon and the question was why couldn’t he beat out Coy Wire last year if he was going to play the strong side. I think he has the talent but it seems somewhat strange that Wire played the position for most of the season after the benching of Boley, now Nicholas is penciled in but we also resigned Wire. It could just be me, but Wire looked pretty good at the SLB position last year,if the Falcons have already penciled Nicholas in as the starter he must be starting to show some mad skills. The William Moore pickup is looking better now also,with Decoud having Moore looking over his shoulder he will excel and I think eventually the safeties will be Moore and Decoud,nothing against Coleman he looked good last year and I expect good things this year but I believe the future will be Decoud and Moore. Seems also that their talking up my boy Andersen, I’m telling ya’ll, yes I said ya’ll haven’t lost all of my southern roots, Jamaal is going to break out this year like a dog in heat. Thats another reason why I feel so good about this team, the offense is getting all the hype and its well deserved but I think we will see a faster vastly improved Falcon defense this year.
WR
May 14th, 2009
12:53 pm
Jason, my sentiments exactly,look at Stirg’s recent post, he’s not into the other teams,which is fine, but he doesn’t bash the blog for talking about other teams. This is truly a blog where the primary subject is the Falcons but if you want to discuss other topics people either respond or they don’t and we continue on respectfully, we even had a tailgate recipe breakout in this blog, I actually hope that heats back up as the season begins.
Stirg d'Nahsif
May 14th, 2009
1:04 pm
WR, I got a debate for you that should heat things up a little bit (and before I get into it, I do admire your last post). Interesting point about the future of our defensive backfield belonging to Moore and DeCoud. I think DeCoud’s strongest play is at free safety. Then again, aren’t the safety positions supposed to be interchangeable like the outside linebacker positions? Still, we cannot belittle Coleman’s performance and he’s a great asset for the next year or two. Do you think, for cap reasons, he’ll make it to regular season as a Falcon?
On to my debate. Is it just me or has anyone else notices how Roddy White pushes off? You know what I’m talking ’bout? When he goes deep for a pass, he takes an arm and holds his defender at bay. Once he ball gets closer to being caught, he pushes off. I know corners have studied this in the film room, if I can see it on ESPN. I’m afraid its going to get called, as offensive interference, a lot this season. What you
WR
May 14th, 2009
1:07 pm
Blog monster’s back and its going to be trouble
Stirg d'Nahsif
May 14th, 2009
1:08 pm
Oh, WR. It was me that introduced the point about Nicholas vs. Wire. I tried to find logic in it. I think Wire started behind Boley because Nicholas was supposed to start at WILL (not Wire’s strongest position). Brooking spoiled that.
Unca' Bob
May 14th, 2009
1:10 pm
WR,
What about Special Teams Coordinator, Keith Armstrong? Didn’t the Falcons set a record fewest put return yards? I know some of that was because of great punting but a lot was do to coverage and tackleing.
I’m still big on Anderson too. Need the Beast to surface.
cutter,
“Excellent recovery speed” raises some concern. To me it means someone is beatin’ ya’.
WR
May 14th, 2009
1:19 pm
Don’t get me wrong, Coleman has done a good job and will continue to do so, I think he will be around for a couple of more years here,but I also think that the futute will be Decoud and Moore.
Stirg, as a former corner yes I agree that Roddy does do alot of pushing off,some of which is highly noticiable and he probably will eventually start to see a few more flags, but as a budding star receiver he will get his share of no-calls. Now from a corner point of view, theres alot of pulling and tugging on White it may not be as noticiable because there are so many things you can do without being seen to slow down a receiver. Now if you want to see alot of pushing off go back and look at some old Jerry Rice tapes, the man was a professional at getting away with pushing off or giving a corner a little nudge.
JohnWayneworld
May 14th, 2009
1:36 pm
Kansas City:
1 KC@BAL-L
2 Oak@KC-W
3 KC@Phi-L
4 Nyg@KC-L
5 DAL@KC-W
6 KC@WAS-L
7 SD@KC–L
8 Bye
9 KC@Jac-L
10KC@Oak-W
11Pitt@KC-L
12KC@SD–L
13Den@KC-L
14Buf@KC-L
15Cle@KC-L
16KC@Cin-W
17KC@Den-L
Geez, I don’t feel good about 4-12 but this means that Oakland is going to suck tomatoes thru a slap chop this year.
This is a little tough because of the upside of a new QB with a proven record, albeit one year, and how the team rallies around him. They could easily win four more games on this list, or Cassell could get creamed in September and KC could go 1-15. Or I could pick them as the ‘09 darlings and they could end up 8-8. This is real tough. 4-12. Final answer. lol
jason
May 14th, 2009
2:16 pm
JohnWayneworld, I felt the same as you regarding KC anywhere from4-12 to 8-8.
Couple of things. I get more posting done at work than being at home with “BOSS”. Wire and Nicholas. What I observe, is that you will see Wire in on D when you want LBs in coverage. I think that is how he initially moved in on Boley. Remember former Safety. I think they want Nicholas stopping the run first. In downs where the O has an option you will see Nicholas in for run stopping and ability to rush the passer.
Regarding Owens recovery speed. I don’t think it’s beacuse he gets burnt. I don’t know WR’s take being a former CB, but I see recovery speed as an asset for a CB. A CB doesn’t know the route a WR is going to run. Alot of pass plays now days seem to be made on the ‘fly’. There may be a route called in the huddle. There may be an audible called at the line of scrimmage. There are also route adjustments while the play is in progress. That is alot of reading for a CB. You had better have outstanding recovery speed to make the proper adjustments. There are alot of very good corners who make a good living using recovey speed to break up passes.
cutter, speed is what concerns me about Jackson also. He has everything you want in a CB. play maker, ball magnet, outstanding talent with exceptional instincts. But, you can’t coach/ teach speed.
The thing with White pushing off on corners. If it’s not getting called it is because RW has earned respect from his profession. All the great WRs get away with it. Like watching MJ push off a defender to get an open look for a jumper. The most notorious WR was Michael Irvin. He would literally shove a DB down to get the separation. I could not stand him when he was playing. How many times have you seen a WR iniate contact and push off to have a pass interference called against a defeated DB?
Well, it looks like the CAGE is a rockin again today. By the way, how we get any work done? Love reading the posts. took a minute to read and catch up before I could post. I think this evening I will hopefully get up a summary on my take on the Dolphins/ Falcons matchup. Concerning the Dolphin wildcat, I’m just glad we get to play them early rather than later in the season. Could you imagine what the wildcat will be like by end of season with Pat White QBing?
Stirg d'Nahsif
May 14th, 2009
2:56 pm
Good; some activity! I knew this debate about White “pushing off” would heat up, WR.
I’m not about to rag on Roddy White because I’ve liked him every since we drafted him. At first, I questioned the move but I knew Vick needed a go to guy. Anyway, I’m not going to hate on “pushing off” because Roddy is on our team. From the oppositions point of view, however, I just don’t see how we didn’t get that call against us last season. I’m not complaining, I just don’t want that call to affect us this year.
Good looking! Thanks for the reminder on Rice and Irvin. Makes sense to me. Roddy White is certainly an All-Pro.
Sarah B
May 14th, 2009
3:06 pm
Well however they end we definately have enough DEF players to pick from now. Should be a nice competition.
Sarah B
May 14th, 2009
3:06 pm
Well however they end we definately have enough DEF players to pick from now. Should be a nice competition.
Sarah B
May 14th, 2009
3:09 pm
Well however it ends up we definately hew enough DEF players to pick from now. Nice healthy competition going on at The Branch.
JohnWayneworld
May 14th, 2009
3:18 pm
Jason, I agree with you about this “recovery speed” thing. The first thing I think about is a rookie DB in his first NFL practice against a veteran NFL wideout. Guess what, he slips up on a play or two and then recovers fast enough to get back on coverage. There is already a huge advantage for the wideout and the kid’s heart is pumping out of his chest. The fact that he caught back up with the wideout is impressive in itself. Is this a sign of weakness??? No, it is a sign of learning. No big deal. Now, after several practices and the same thing is happening, that is a whole different story. If that is the case, he tries out for special teams. I think he will be fine.
JohnWayneworld
May 14th, 2009
3:19 pm
The monster has Sara!!!
Sarah B
May 14th, 2009
3:20 pm
HELP – I’ve been sucked in to the monster!
SPS
May 14th, 2009
3:22 pm
I’m about to catch a plane to fly back to ATL, but let me toss a little meat in the shark tank first. Rumors say Bill Cowher wants to get back into coaching. Should Arthur give him a call? We all love Smitty. He’s a straight up, no nonsense guy. A good CEO type. But is he really the best gameday coach? We second guessed a lot of his calls last year.
Just asking the question. Coach Mularkey might even stay for Cowher.
JohnWayneworld
May 14th, 2009
3:31 pm
Take some more dramamine SPS, your dreaming. If Cowher is gonna make a move it is gonna be Carolina. This is common knowledge. He lives there and it is just a matter of time before Fox is done considering COACH SMITTY and the Falcons will soon enough begin to DOMINATE the NFC South.
A couple of sub .500 seasons and Cowher will take over the Panthers.
jason
May 14th, 2009
3:45 pm
SPS, you might get into some trouble here. I don’t see that happening in Atlanta. Coach smith is ATL’s coach. Were there some questionable calls he made last season. I am sure there were. But, you have got to understand Smitty was a rookie coach. He learned on the fly. Considering that and the fact how far the Falcons went witha fairly young team… I’d have to take Smitty. How far do you think ATL would have went if there were no questionable calls? The Super Bowl?
D3
May 14th, 2009
4:01 pm
Great Thursday Afternoon Bird-Cage posse! Should be a nice afternoon to have a cold one and throw one of the Bird-Cage recipes on the grill. Maybe grabe some Landshark lager; good warm weather brew and the $$ has come down a little. Man, is the ‘Cage rockin’ lately or what? We’re most likely averaging roughly aabout 100 posts per day during the off-season for goodness sake.
NFL Football Explanation – the reason I proposed examining other divisions and teams around the NFL was to supplement our Falcons Football talk. The ‘Cage is so enjoyable to me that its something I like at least checking in each day, especially during when I have some downtime, which I’ve had a good bit of lately taking some time off to spend with my lil’ five week old future WR.
Unfortunately, our Falcons discussions will only last so long during this downtime. We can only debate Redman/Shockley/JPW, DeCoud/Moore, & Houston/Jackson/Owens for so long. The goal is basically to offer several different avenues for discussion and let bloggers participate as they may. The blog is 100% Falcons Football, but if we want to keep the mojo and momentum going, than we have to get a little creative. How much Football information is available on May 14th?
Here’s yet another idea to throw out there to keep the ‘Cage rockin: Starting say next week, we can take an individual position each weekday, M-F, and analyze every 53 man roster spot, from our starting QB all the way down to our long snapper. If we start that next monday, that will roll us right into Training Camp in August, using a couple of the extra days to discuss bubble candidates. Just trying to throw some ideas out there to keep the great mojo we got going here in the Bird-Cage. I don’t read DOB’s Braves blog a ton, but I ‘d put ours up there considering the wealth of information baseball gives (162 games) and DOB’s extensive work he puts into it, compared to us being in the off-season.
Thoughts, Comments, Ideas, Changes? As Barry says, “We are One Heartbeat” here in the ‘Cage!
The Dean 21
May 14th, 2009
4:08 pm
Hello Bird Cage~
I’ve been out of action since my mini camp visit and I’m happy to note I’m actually featured in the opening photo of this blog by the AJC & DOL! I see I’ve missed a lot!
D3, do I have time to catch up fo the days missed or do I just need to fall in place with the current selection?
Good to know we have fans not only in the Atl but across the canadian border as well..aye
Sarah B
May 14th, 2009
4:10 pm
SPS – put down the crackpipe and walk away slowly…
The Dean 21
May 14th, 2009
4:17 pm
I also want to give a shout out to Jason, JohnWayneWorld,Unca Bob, Lil Dave and other regulars! Welcome to all newcomers and a special wave to the Bird Queen Sarah B., it’s a pleasure to have you and you have no doubt opened the door for future females to join the Bird Cage! I can say that I have been a member for 3 years now and didn’t post as much due to the hate that was being spilled during that time…Ken Strickland can attest to that. This is like a relief picture getting a record number of saves in one season now…Good for the awesome chatter concerning our beloved Falcons! I still have to brag about getting Arthur’s autograph at the mini camp, now that $23 football has a new meaning! LOL
Lil'Dave
May 14th, 2009
4:26 pm
The Dean 21 – Dude we had to be standing right beside each other at mini camp then because My hat is in the photo right in front of Mr. Blank. If you start at the tip of his nose in the photo, then draw a stright line from left to right, the first Falcons hat you hit is mine. Were are you in the photo? I’ll beat we were chatting it up at camp and didnt even know it.
Lil'Dave
May 14th, 2009
4:37 pm
O ya my Dolphins vs Falcons game input! Sorry I got a little busy after lunch for once.
I think this will be one of the trickest games of the year for us. With the addition Jason Taylor and already having Joey Porter, there DEF could really give Matty some different looks throughout the game. I see this game coming down to pure fundamentals. Good special teams, running the ball, and allowing 0 sacks. If we can keep the pressure off Matty the Dolphins will be a fish out of water. And Tha Burner will be cookin’em.
Now the interesting part of the game for me will be the good ol’ WildCat formation. Which both teams have and use to there advantage.
Over all I think Atlanta will be to much to handle…tough game. But the final score will be 21-10 Atlanta. Turner 115 yards…Matty 230+ Gonzo first 2 TD’S as a Falcon. Dang wish week 1 was Sunday!
Stirg d'Nahsif
May 14th, 2009
4:44 pm
Y’all better not let SPS off the hook that easily. I was attacked like a Michael Vick dog when I suggested that we get cut (MR.) John Abraham. Y’all better let him have it for suggesting that about Coach Smitty.
The Dean 21, welcome back.
Lil’Dave, where’s your Miami vs. Atlanta analysis? I’m interested.
Sarah, (as my one-year old would say) Heyyyyyyyy!
WR, thanks for the Rice and Irvin reminder. Greatest “push-offers” of all time. I told you that debate would get some things fired up. I can’t get out of my head about your suggestion of a defensive backfield with DeCoud and Moore. Wow! Good point, kid. I’m looking forward to that.
D3, coaching up that little WR? If you’re not too busy (you have to be, with all this administering you’re doing), let me know what you think about ATL and MIA. Do you like Vontae Davis and Sean Smith (the rookies) to start against Jenkins and White? I’m hungry for your comments.
Dean 21
May 14th, 2009
4:45 pm
2009 Kansas City Chiefs
1 Sep 13 KC @ BAL – L
2 Sep 20 OAK @ KC – W
3 Sep 27 KC @ PHI – L
4 Oct 04 NYG @ KC – L
5 Oct 11 DAL @ KC – L
6 Oct 18 KC @ WAS – L
7 Oct 25 SD @ KC – L
8 Bye
9 Nov 08 KC @ JAC – L
10 Nov 15 KC @ OAK – L
11 Nov 22 PIT @ KC – L
12 Nov 29 KC @ SD – L
13 Dec 06 DEN @ KC – W
14 Dec 13 BUF @ KC – L
15 Dec 20 CLE @ KC – W
16 Dec 27 KC @ CIN – L
17 Jan 03 KC @ DEN – L
3-13 – A very tough schedule for a 1st year coaching staff! But could be a surprise like the 2008 Falcons, but I doubt it.
Dean 21
May 14th, 2009
4:49 pm
Dude we had to be standing right beside each other at mini camp then because My hat is in the photo right in front of Mr. Blank. If you start at the tip of his nose in the photo, then draw a stright line from left to right, the first Falcons hat you hit is mine. Were are you in the photo? I’ll beat we were chatting it up at camp and didnt even know it.
Lil Dave: I’m wearing the white Falcons hat in the photo, yep I was right there waiting on Arthur coming down the line, had a nice small chat with him and had some chats with Chris Houston, William Moore and Chris Owens. I was impressed with our young draft picks! I even got pics with my son & several players, so it was a great experience. A must do again! Lil Dave, we had great weather during the morning session huh?
Dean 21
May 14th, 2009
4:54 pm
Lil Dave, I bet we did chat it up because everybody was having different conversations in the crowd. I’m inthe white Falcons cap directly behind the guy in the loud Orange shirt…lol Hope that wasn’t you!
Lil'Dave
May 14th, 2009
4:54 pm
Ya man the morning weather was awesome but the afternoon was almost as hot as Gonzo’s wife!
Lil'Dave
May 14th, 2009
4:57 pm
Naw that wasnt me. All you can see of me is the bill of my hat right above that football that someone is holding up. The football is actually covering my face. There goes my 15 secs of Fame
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jason
May 14th, 2009
4:58 pm
Guys, I’m going to sneak in a quick 9 hole on a round of golf. Check back in a few hours. I want to see some good posts when I get back on. I will be coming back with my take on the Mimi game. Later…
Stirg d'Nahsif
May 14th, 2009
5:02 pm
Y’all better not let SPS off the hook that easily. I was attacked like a Michael Vick dog when I suggested that we get cut (MR.) John Abraham. Y’all better let him have it for suggesting that about Coach Smitty.
The Dean 21, welcome back.
Lil’Dave, Good call. Do you really think Taylor and Porter will be a problem? Matty Ice will exploit their age, immediately. Who’s going to cover Gonzo? I know I suggested 16-13 Atlanta; but after your summary, I think we will put three touchdowns on the board.
Sarah, (as my one-year old would say) Heyyyyyyyyy!
WR, thanks for the Rice and Irvin reminder. Greatest “push-offers” of all time. I told you that debate would get some things fired up. I can’t get out of my head about your suggestion of a defensive backfield with DeCoud and Moore. Wow! Good point, kid. I’m looking forward to that.
D3, coaching up that little WR? If you’re not too busy (you have to be, with all this administering you’re doing), let me know what you think about ATL and MIA. Do you like Vontae Davis and Sean Smith (the rookies) to start against Jenkins and White? I’m hungry for your comments.
Stirg d'Nahsif
May 14th, 2009
5:03 pm
Y’all better not let SPS off the hook that easily. I was attacked like a Michael Vick dog when I suggested that we get cut (MR.) John Abraham. Y’all better let him have it for suggesting that about Coach Smitty.
The Dean 21, welcome back.
Lil’Dave, Good call. Do you really think Taylor and Porter will be a problem? Matty Ice will exploit their age, immediately. Who’s going to cover Gonzo? I know I suggested 16-13 Atlanta; but after your summary, I think we will put three touchdowns on the board.
Sarah, (as my one-year old would say) Heyyyyyyyy!
WR, thanks for the Rice and Irvin reminder. Greatest “push-offers” of all time. I told you that debate would get some things fired up. I can’t get out of my head about your suggestion of a defensive backfield with DeCoud and Moore. Wow! Good point, kid. I’m looking forward to that.
D3, coaching up that little WR? If you’re not too busy (you have to be, with all this administering you’re doing), let me know what you think about ATL and MIA. Do you like Vontae Davis and Sean Smith (the rookies) to start against Jenkins and White? I’m hungry for your comments.
Dean 21
May 14th, 2009
5:06 pm
Lil Dave, then yeah Hott is the correct statement! Ok, yeah I only got a side view but you can plainly see me holding my lovely freshly paid football in the air, so trust me, it got more camera coverage than I did!
D3
May 14th, 2009
5:09 pm
2009 Atlanta Falcons Schedule Analysis
This Week: Atlanta Falcons vs. Miami Dolphins (Game 1)
Atlanta Falcons vs. Miami Dolphins; September 13th @ The Georgia Dome
2008 Atlanta Falcons
W/L: 11-5; Playoffs: Wild-Card Round
Scored 391 points (24.4/g), 10th of 32 in the NFL.
Allowed 325 points (20.3/g), 11th.
Differential of 66 points (4.1/g), 11th.
Takeaway/Giveaway Differential -3 (-0.2/g), 21st
Coach: Mike Smith
Key Losses
Dominique Foxworth, Grady Jackson, Keith Brooking, Lawyer Milloy, Michael Boley, Laurent Robinson
Key Addition
Mike Peterson, Tony Gonzalez
Draft: Peria Jerry, William Moore, Chris Owens, Lawrence Sidbury
2008 Miami Dolphins
Scored 345 points (21.6/g), 21st of 32 in the NFL.
Allowed 317 points (19.8/g), 9th.
Differential of 28 points (1.8/g), 16th.
Takeaway/Giveaway Differential +17 (1.1/g), 1st.
Coach: Tony Sparano
Key Losses: Derek Smith, Renaldo Hill, Vonnie Holiday
Key Additions: Gibril Wilson, Jason Taylor, Eric Green
Draft: Vontae Davis(CB), Pat White(QB/WR/RB), Sean Smith(CB/S)
Match-ups & In-depth Analysis to come…………..
Sarah B
May 14th, 2009
5:26 pm
From Fox Sports:
6. Tony Gonzalez: A few months from now, we may look at the trade of a 2010 second-round pick for arguably the best tight end in all of football as the biggest steal of the 2009 draft weekend. The reviews of Gonzalez at Atlanta’s minicamp in Flowery Branch last week were off the charts. In Gonzalez, Matt Ryan gets an over-the-middle threat and a red-zone target unlike any he’s ever had before.
Don’t kid yourself — Gonzalez still has a lot of good football left in him. Last season in Kansas City, despite a shaky offensive line and an even shakier quarterback situation, the All-Pro still caught 10 passes for 20 or more yards. He hauled in 96 passes, 10 for scores. At 33 years old, he still has gas left in the tank. Inspired by a new situation — one in which he will be playing for a defending division champion — Gonzalez should be even better than he was last year.
The player who might benefit the most from the addition of Gonzalez? Pro Bowl receiver Roddy White. Teams can no longer double-team White on the outside when they have to worry about Gonzo streaking up the middle. A tight end like Gonzalez will keep safeties true, opening up the field for Ryan and White to operate on less fortunate back-pedaling cornerbacks.
Amidst a sea of mock drafts and Braylon Edwards rumors, the Gonzalez trade to Atlanta kind of flew under the radar last month. It may end up proving to be the biggest pickup of the entire NFL offseason.
D3
May 14th, 2009
5:28 pm
Dean21 – great to have you brother. Sure, take all the time you need to update the Broncos & Chargers. If you check back on pages 2-4, their respective schedules should be on there.
2009 Bird-Cage Division/Team Analysis & Final Standings Competition
Teams D3 Sarah B jason WR Ed
Bronco 6–10 6–10 8–8 5–11 5–11
Chargers 11–5 13–3 12–4 10–6 13–3
Chiefs 5–11 4–12 4–12 4–12
Unca’ Bob row3 JWW JJ Dean21
Bronco 5–11 7–9 8–8 2–14
Chargers 11–5 10–6 10–6 12–4
Chiefs 4–12 4–12 3–13
We’ll see if this turns out right.
Dean 21
May 14th, 2009
5:36 pm
D,3 Thanks man – The Dean votes you as Bird Cage King! It seems since the draft you have kept us motivated and the results have been famous, you my man are doing your thing and is why we flockers are seeking the cage man! Good Stuff, I’ll have my catch ups in before tonight is over.
Dean 21
May 14th, 2009
5:39 pm
Sarah B, Don’tmean to beat a dead horse… it’s a pleasure to have you and you have no doubt you have opened the door for future women to join the Bird Cage! It seems you have football in your veins as well and I’m sure most guys would give their left arm (maybe not) to have a woman who not only understands the guy but can talk the lingo regarding it!
D3
May 14th, 2009
5:45 pm
Dean21 – meant to say great to have you BACK brother. Sorry, I’m struggling a little bit right now.
Tried to copy and paste, didn’t work so here we go:
D3: Broncos(6-10), Chargers(11-5), Chiefs(5-11)
Sarah B: Broncos(6-10), Chargers(13-3), Chiefs(4-12)
jason: Broncos(8-8), Chargers(12-4), Chiefs(4-12)
WR: Broncos(5-11), Chargers(10-6), Chiefs(4-12)
Unca’ Bob: Broncos(5-11), Chargers(11-5), Chiefs(4-12)
JohnWaynesWorld: Broncos(8-8), Chargers(10-6), Chiefs(4-12)
Ed: Broncos(5-11), Chargers(13-3)
JJ: Broncos(2-14), Chargers(12-4)
Dean21: Chiefs(3-13)
WR
May 14th, 2009
6:37 pm
Probably won’t be offcially on till later but I wanted to catch up a bit. Jason is completely right, recovery speed is based on the fact that corners have no idea what a receiver will do, whereas a receiver knows exactly what the plan is, thats why you see so many double move routes, hitch routes,and scrapes.A corner with good recovery speed can overcome guessing on these types of routes,having the ability to take a guess and jump an “out route” can lead to a defensive touchdown, having good recovery speed if you have guessed wrong can stop a offensive touchdown. Recovery speed is also an asset that can be used for bait, I will explain: Deion Sanders was one of the best if not the best cover corner in the league, one aspect of his game that stood out was when he let receivers blow by him, a QB would take the bait thinking the receiver was open, they would find out that they weren’t as Deion picked off the pass. This would eventually lead Quarterbacks not to throw at Deion period so in essence even when Deion was actually beat the QB didn’t know whether to believe it or not. So yeah, recovery speed is a good thing, it means you have another gear that you can switch into in time of trouble.
Unca’Bob, I’m not worried about losing the special teams coach as much as the other coaches. Its not to take value away from the special teams coach, its just that most special teams coaches stay put unless they are looking for a status change, whether that is getting more involved with either the offense or defense or wanting to relocate or maybe getting fired, for the most part thats the only time you see special teams coaches moving around.
Later everyone,margaritas,Dos esquis,Corona,chips and salsa and of course fajitas await, nothing like thursday night Mexican food and drinks along with some trivia. I’ll check in later if I slur my speech a little you’ll no why.
WR
May 14th, 2009
6:39 pm
Didn’t proofread again, sorry but I’m hungry so just bear with me this time. Later
Dean 21
May 14th, 2009
6:45 pm
D3, glad to be back, I can see I missed alot. I took some time off to complete my annual “honeydo” list and trust me, I’d rather have been working…lol I’m working on the other teams I missed now…
WR, later dude!
Dean 21
May 14th, 2009
6:52 pm
D3, sorry for catching the bus so late, but I think I have my list ready for the 1st team…
1 Sep 13 DEN @ CIN – W
2 Sep 20 CLE @ DEN – W
3 Sep 27 DEN @ OAK – W
4 Oct 04 DAL @ DEN – L
5 Oct 11 NE @ DEN – L
6 Oct 19 DEN @ SD – L
7 Bye
8 Nov 01 DEN @ BAL – L
9 Nov 09 PIT @ DEN – L
10 Nov 15 DEN @ WAS – L
11 Nov 22 SD @ DEN – W
12 Nov 26 NYG @ DEN – L
13 Dec 06 DEN @ KC – W
14 Dec 13 DEN @ IND – L
15 Dec 20 OAK @ DEN – W
16 Dec 27 DEN @ PHI – L
17 Jan 03 KC @ DEN – W
7-9, I hope they loose more being that they beat us last year, yup, i’m a sore looser…lol
row3
May 14th, 2009
7:00 pm
1 KC @ BAL -L
2 OAK @ KC -W
3 KC @ PHI -L
4 NYG @ KC -L
5 DAL @ KC -L
6 KC @ WAS -W
7 SD @ KC -L
8 BYE-BYE
9 KC @ JAC -W
10 KC @ OAK -W
11PIT @ KC -L
12 KC @ SD -L
13DEN @ KC -L
14BUF @ KC -L
15CLE @ KC -W
16 KC @ CIN -W
17 KC @ DEN -L
6-10
Dean 21
May 14th, 2009
7:02 pm
2009 San Diego Chargers Schedule – Dean 21
1 Sep 14 SD @ OAK – W
2 Sep 20 BAL @ SD – L
3 Sep 27 MIA @ SD – W
4 Oct 04 SD @ PIT – L
5 Bye
6 Oct 19 DEN @ SD – W
7 Oct 25 SD @ KC – W
8 Nov 01 OAK @ SD – W
9 Nov 08 SD @ NYG – L
10 Nov 15 PHI @ SD – W
11 Nov 22 SD @ DEN – L
12 Nov 29 KC @ SD – W
13 Dec 06 SD @ CLE – W
14 Dec 13 SD @ DAL – L
15 Dec 20 CIN @ SD – W
16 Dec 25 SD @ TEN – L
17 Jan 03 WAS @ SD – W
10-6, I think they will squeeze by Philly!
D, 3 am I caught up man?
jason
May 14th, 2009
7:20 pm
Quick story, I know this is off topic, but to let you know What kind of footballnick (is that even a word)All well. I went to the Alamo Bowl with some co-workers this past Bowl Season. Northwestern vs. Missouri. I sat there watching the game. I was calling plays as if I was the OC. Now, i’m not saying that I am that good, but close. I guess I was annoying this couple sitting in front of us. I t was funny, the dude told his girl.” Damn Baby he’s calling the plays like he’s in the huddle. That was defense and Offense. I love football. We all get get caught up in stats and big plays and such. I like to look inside all of that and try to figure out what made this or that play work. One of my biggest weaknesses is for ne to over analyze things, people, situations, etc. I want to know what makes this play, that formation tick. Why was this successful? Why did this fail? Why is this personell grouping successful for this fprmation, play? Stuff like that. In a sense that’s what sucks about watching games on tv. I need to see the whole field to truly reconize what’s going on. People it’s in my blood, I am addicted. There I said it. The first step is to admit that I have a problem. lol. I do, I am a football junkie….
jason
May 14th, 2009
7:27 pm
I did get to see Atlanta/ New Orleans in the Alamo Dome acouple of years ago. Kind of sucked though, I didn’t have good seats. MV had acouple of spetacular runs. The blocked FG was awsome. I believe it was DeMarrio Williams who bebefitted from a line man pulling a N.O. line man down to get the block. Saints screaming for a penalty and no call. N.O. got called for a flag on the same exact play. lol!!!
JJ
May 14th, 2009
9:11 pm
KC 5 – 11
JJ
May 14th, 2009
9:14 pm
Cutter: very good insight about Houston, I’ve dogged him on this blog repeatedly (and may again come fall), but good insight!
JJ
May 14th, 2009
9:30 pm
Guys/Sarah: This is way out in left field, but I beleive we have a falcon rep. in our blog. His user name is Cutter but he has more knowledge than our own bird-cage-coach Ken Strik.
Ok – re-read cutters’ last 2 statements. Does that sound like a typical fan (like us) knowledge? Yes stirg thinks he has all the answers, but re-read cutters paragragh! No dis stirg, all respect!
Or I’ve been working too many 12hr days, and its past my bedtime, goodnight falcon nation! cia at 530!!!ugh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
D3
May 14th, 2009
9:37 pm
Great Evening Bird-Cage Boys and Gals! Gonna be a really short one tonight, gotta get some sleep tonight after my little buddy kept me up a good bit last night. The ‘Cage is rocking great and I couldn’t be happier. To Falcons & Football……
Dean21 – great to have you back brother, thanks for the props. Just trying to keep the great mojo going here in the ‘Cage. Got your updates.
WR – man, you brought back my college flashbacks on thursday night. Me and my boys would start with a little Madden and College Football on PS2 complete with many o’ brews from about 6 – 8. Then it was on the Mexicali Grill down the street for mucho, mucho margaritas and pitchers of brew, on to downtown Athens for more brews and the occasional shot, and of course end it all off with a hot dog around 2 am in a cheap cab. Amazing how quick those Glory Days slip back in.
Wow, sorry about that guys; WR stimulated some good ol’ times in my brain.
JJ & row3 – got your NFL Predictions updated. Nice work.
Alrighty, gonna have to delay the Atlanta vs. Miami in-depth matchup for tomorrow. Also, gonna unveil another trick up our sleeve to keep the ‘Cage community at an all-time high pitch. To the bed ladies and gents. Thanks to you guys, the Bird-Cage rollin’, rockin’, and is the absolute S—-!
79 DAYS AND COUNTING TO 2009 ATLANTA FALCONS TRAINING CAMP!!!!!!!!
jason
May 14th, 2009
9:37 pm
JJ, I think not, but Cutter definitely has plyed some collage ball though. It would be cool though to have some insight from a reprisenitive of the organization. There are alot of football intelligent people on this blog. Ken Strickland is one of if not the most knowledgable. D3, WR, and Strig also. Forgot Seminole Warrior. You need to get home, and back in the CAGE. If you reading, get home safely.
Sarah B
May 14th, 2009
10:31 pm
Dean 21 – I appreciate the love for the game and I know it is rare although there are some some other women that sit around me w/hubbies in 342 row 6 that know their stuff too so I’m not completly alone out there. But I did grow up in the Big 10 and watching the Lions (ugg) and was hooked from childhood. I don’t really get how anyone cannot love football??? Men – violence and comptetion, Women – Hot men, tight outfits, violence, lot of touching….OK I have to stop. I mean girls love football players in HS so why stop?? To shop? Ech. BTW I was not a cheerleader – I was in marching band.
row3
May 15th, 2009
12:14 am
D3,
If you can keep this divison record breakdowns going for all 32 teams, come regular season we can keep up with wins/loses and have a little friendly competition within the blog.
I like our opponent break-downs, but I see that ongoing all summer, for how the team by team records are giving me the football fix I need.
Ed
May 15th, 2009
1:30 am
1 KC@BAL-L
2 Oak@KC-W
3 KC@Phi-L
4 Nyg@KC-L
5 DAL@KC-L
6 KC@WAS-L
7 SD@KC–L
8 Bye
9 KC@Jac-L
10KC@Oak-L
11Pitt@KC-L
12KC@SD–L
13Den@KC-W
14Buf@KC-W
15Cle@KC-W
16KC@Cin-L
17KC@Den-L
4 – 12 Not a lot of faith in their first year coach who seemingly came out of nowhere. Many questions about their personnel not the least of which is the QB position.
D3
May 15th, 2009
7:04 am
Great Early A.M. Bird-Cager’s! You know what day it is, so no need to even mention it. Maybe some steaks & veggies on the grill and of course some cold brews in a some nice weather, hopefully. Anyway, to our fun-filled day in the ‘Cage………
Sorry to start with the crappy AFC West this week, but next week should be better with the AFC North. Let’s finish with the lowly Raiders.
Weekly Division: AFC West
Today’s Team: Oakland Raiders
2009 Oakland Raiders Schedule
1 Sep 14 SD @ OAK
2 Sep 20 OAK @ KC
3 Sep 27 DEN @ OAK
4 Oct 04 OAK @ HOU
5 Oct 11 OAK @ NYG
6 Oct 18 PHI @ OAK
7 Oct 25 NYJ @ OAK
8 Nov 01 OAK @ SD
9 Bye
10 Nov 15 KC @ OAK
11 Nov 22 CIN @ OAK
12 Nov 26 OAK @ DAL
13 Dec 06 OAK @ PIT
14 Dec 13 WAS @ OAK
15 Dec 20 OAK @ DEN
16 Dec 27 OAK @ CLE
17 Jan 03 BAL @ OAK
Projected Starters
Offense
QB – Jamarcus Russell
RB – Darren McFadden
FB – Lorenzo Neal
WR – Darius Heyward-Bay
WR – Johnnie Lee Higgins
TE – Zach Miller
LT – Khalif Barnes
LG – Robert Gallery
C – John Wade?
RG – Marcus Johnson?
RT – Cornell Green
Defense
DE – Jay Richardson
DE – Tommy Kelly
DT – Gerard Warren
DT – William Joseph?
MLB – Kirk Morrison
OLB – Thomas Howard
OLB – Ricky Brown
CB – Hiram Eugene?
CB – Nnamdi Asomunga
FS – Michael Huff?
SS – Michael Mitchell
K – Sebastian Janikowski
P – Shane Lechler
Let’s wrap up the AFC West boys and gals. What you got on the Raiders? Suprise or terrible as usual?
Atlanta Falcons vs. Miami Dolphins coming soon…….
Unca' Bob
May 15th, 2009
7:31 am
2009 Oakland Raiders Schedule
1 Sep 14 SD @ OAK L
2 Sep 20 OAK @ KC L
3 Sep 27 DEN @ OAK L
4 Oct 04 OAK @ HOU L
5 Oct 11 OAK @ NYG L
6 Oct 18 PHI @ OAK L
7 Oct 25 NYJ @ OAK W
8 Nov 01 OAK @ SD L
9 Bye
10 Nov 15 KC @ OAK W
11 Nov 22 CIN @ OAK W
12 Nov 26 OAK @ DAL L
13 Dec 06 OAK @ PIT L
14 Dec 13 WAS @ OAK L
15 Dec 20 OAK @ DEN L
16 Dec 27 OAK @ CLE W
17 Jan 03 BAL @ OAK L
4-12 If at some point Garcia steps in, this could improve.
D3
May 15th, 2009
8:10 am
2009 Oakland Raiders
Offense
They actually turned things around fairly good last year when Tom Cable took over for Lane Kiffin (remember, them beating the Bucs helped us clinch a playoff spot a week early). I actually think they may suprise some people this year, as in win a few more than recent memory,not a huge turnaround. They should have one of the better 1-2 punches at RB in football with McFadden and Fargas. The addition of Khalif Barnes at LT should lead to even better running possibilities. Zach Miller is one of the more under-rated TE’s in the NFL, especially with their QB situation. Their WR’s don’t strike fear in anyone. Johnnie Lee Higgins had a pretty good year and should get better. They really dropped the ball by taking Heyward-Bay, IMO. He may turn out to be ok, and the deep threat may be enough. But how much better shape would they be in if they had taken Crabtree or Maclin? But it all goes back to Jamarcus Russell: this is boom or bust time for the #1 overall pick. He has all the tools, but doesn’t show the mental, emotional, or work ethic to be a Pro-Bowl QB. If Garcia replaces him, they may do ok in a weak division. If Russell gets benched, the word BUST is signed, sealed, & delivered!
Defense
On paper this DEF doesn’t strike fear in anyone. Tommy Kelly was way overpaid, and neither of their DE’s are even recognizable. Kirk Morrison is solid LB, but beyond that the LB’s don’t seem to carry much talent or ability. Outside of Asomghua(sic), the secondary looks pretty pathetic as well. The drafting of Mitchell helped label the Raiders draft as an F, IMO. This DEF needs some serious work. Besides Asomghua & Morrison, who do you even build around?
After spending several drafts, the Offense finally gains some life, but their terrible DEF lets them down week in and week out. Final: 4-12
1 Sep 14 SD @ OAK (loss)
2 Sep 20 OAK @ KC (loss)
3 Sep 27 DEN @ OAK (loss)
4 Oct 04 OAK @ HOU (loss)
5 Oct 11 OAK @ NYG (loss)
6 Oct 18 PHI @ OAK (loss)
7 Oct 25 NYJ @ OAK (win)
8 Nov 01 OAK @ SD (win)
9 Bye
10 Nov 15 KC @ OAK (win)
11 Nov 22 CIN @ OAK (loss)
12 Nov 26 OAK @ DAL (loss)
13 Dec 06 OAK @ PIT (loss)
14 Dec 13 WAS @ OAK (loss)
15 Dec 20 OAK @ DEN (loss)
16 Dec 27 OAK @ CLE (win)
17 Jan 03 BAL @ OAK (loss)
D3
May 15th, 2009
8:11 am
sorry if this is a re-post; blog alien is on the loose!
2009 Oakland Raiders
Offense
They actually turned things around fairly good last year when Tom Cable took over for Lane Kiffin (remember, them beating the Bucs helped us clinch a playoff spot a week early). I actually think they may suprise some people this year, as in win a few more than recent memory,not a huge turnaround. They should have one of the better 1-2 punches at RB in football with McFadden and Fargas. The addition of Khalif Barnes at LT should lead to even better running possibilities. Zach Miller is one of the more under-rated TE’s in the NFL, especially with their QB situation. Their WR’s don’t strike fear in anyone. Johnnie Lee Higgins had a pretty good year and should get better. They really dropped the ball by taking Heyward-Bay, IMO. He may turn out to be ok, and the deep threat may be enough. But how much better shape would they be in if they had taken Crabtree or Maclin? But it all goes back to Jamarcus Russell: this is boom or bust time for the #1 overall pick. He has all the tools, but doesn’t show the mental, emotional, or work ethic to be a Pro-Bowl QB. If Garcia replaces him, they may do ok in a weak division. If Russell gets benched, the word BUST is signed, sealed, & delivered!
Defense
On paper this DEF doesn’t strike fear in anyone. Tommy Kelly was way overpaid, and neither of their DE’s are even recognizable. Kirk Morrison is solid LB, but beyond that the LB’s don’t seem to carry much talent or ability. Outside of Asomghua(sic), the secondary looks pretty pathetic as well. The drafting of Mitchell helped label the Raiders draft as the worst of the weekend, IMO. This DEF needs some serious work. Besides Asomghua & Morrison, who do you even build around?
After spending several drafts, the Offense finally gains some life, but their terrible DEF lets them down week in and week out. Final: 4-12
1 Sep 14 SD @ OAK (loss)
2 Sep 20 OAK @ KC (loss)
3 Sep 27 DEN @ OAK (loss)
4 Oct 04 OAK @ HOU (loss)
5 Oct 11 OAK @ NYG (loss)
6 Oct 18 PHI @ OAK (loss)
7 Oct 25 NYJ @ OAK (win)
8 Nov 01 OAK @ SD (win)
9 Bye
10 Nov 15 KC @ OAK (win)
11 Nov 22 CIN @ OAK (loss)
12 Nov 26 OAK @ DAL (loss)
13 Dec 06 OAK @ PIT (loss)
14 Dec 13 WAS @ OAK (loss)
15 Dec 20 OAK @ DEN (loss)
16 Dec 27 OAK @ CLE (win)
17 Jan 03 BAL @ OAK (loss)
Unca' Bob
May 15th, 2009
8:41 am
Cage Brethren,
It seems I have, with no intent, opened up a can of worms per C Owens. Now lets see if I can wiggle myself out. Recovery speed is a major plus. I, too, have played at the CB position, though probably not to the skill level as most. This is not the first time I have seen a report saying pretty much the same thing about Owens. If a beat reporter, standing on the sidelines notices there could be something to it. Then again, maybe not. If TD scouted Owens for two years I am sure this man is the real deal. He is very green and has never seen the people he’s up against. As time goes by, the opportunity to study game films will be opened up to him. He will grab this opportunity by the tail and work very, very hard. That’s what smart people with character, drive, and leader-ship ability do. They over achieve. He will do any and everything it takes to succeed. And all my money is on him….Just a thought.
jason
May 15th, 2009
8:43 am
1 Sep 14 SD @ OAK L, now they win this one.
2 Sep 20 OAK @ KC L Road woes
3 Sep 27 DEN @ OAK L Moreno VS McFadden; Moreno wins
4 Oct 04 OAK @ HOU L Hou better tnan Credited
5 Oct 11 OAK @ NYG L Can’t beat teams this good
6 Oct 18 PHI @ OAK L Russel benched ?
7 Oct 25 NYJ @ OAK W Wins one they shouldn’t
8 Nov 01 OAK @ SD L LT is on a mission
9 Bye
10 Nov 15 KC @ OAK W Garcia provides offensive spark
11 Nov 22 CIN @ OAK W Winning streak?
12 Nov 26 OAK @ DAL L Nope
13 Dec 06 OAK @ PIT L What happened to McFadden?
14 Dec 13 WAS @ OAK L Can’t run the ball
15 Dec 20 OAK @ DEN L Is the season over yet?
16 Dec 27 OAK @ CLE L Garcia hurt/Russel back in
17 Jan 03 BAL @ OAK L Can we say #1 pick in 2010 draft
This division sucks. Neither Oak nor KC are good at all. At least KC was competitive. The Raisers usaed to be where veterans careers go to die. They still are. Only problem is they are also where #1 Draft Picks careers never get started. I am afraid that this will not change until Al Davis either passes away or sales the team. You have CB on defense who shuts down one side of the field completely, but yeat still cant’t defend the pass. Pass rush nonexentent. McFadden looks to be a bust. Can’t stay healthy. No line to support the run. Russel, the jury is still out. Future does not look good. Jr QBs don’t fare well in the NFL. Really should have stayed another year at LSU. I think the NFL is to fast for him. Showed some promise last year. With Garcia in the fold as back up; he could provide Russel with the tools to excell; if Russel willing to take the knowledge. Now don’t think Garcia is #2 and teaching young Russel about the NFL. He is there to compete for the starter’s job. At some point he will be the #1 in OAK. It won’t matter though. The most dysfunctional team in the NFL will not disapont.
Raiders = 3-13
Big Ray
May 15th, 2009
8:47 am
CUTTER,
Keeping bring it like that, and you’ll be taking D. Led’s job….Nice stuff, my man!
Stirg,
I gotta go to a game with you. Any game. Just to be hangin’ out with a heckler. Too much fun! I was at a Hawks game during the regular season, when we played Dallas. I was sitting with some friends just three rows behind the opposing team’s bench. I was giving them all kinds of hell…it was so much fun…
I’m looking forward to seeing who comes out on top between Decoud and Moore. Stiff competition makes guys better and better. We may even get to see them both on the field together in the future. Either way, we need some strong safety play.
jason
May 15th, 2009
8:55 am
Unca’ Bob, It’s agood debate. We all know every player on ATL can’t be all pro. Even if us fans (homers) deem it so. If we take our blinders off we will reconize some defiecencies. TD can’t possibly hit on evry pick or signing. He can’t be King MIdas can he?
I think there are 2 definitions for Recovery Speed. I look at recovery speed as being amid the play. Not after the play. If recovery speed is after a play; in the NFL that just automatic TDs. Just a thought. TD has studied this kid for 2+ years. I think that’s why alot of people are debating and defending Owens to a point.
This brings me to another topic. Who do you all think are the weak links on ATL’s team? Are there any? Or did TD and Coach Smitty do an excellent job of putting the right players in place? I mean perfection. What players are you nervous about going into the new season?
cutter
May 15th, 2009
9:29 am
FLOWERY BRANCH, Ga. – The Atlanta Falcons today released three players, including linebacker Derek Nicholson, cornerback Ronnie Prude and safety Marcus Paschal.
Nicholson was signed by the Falcons as a rookie free agent this offseason and the Florida State graduate participated in the Falcons mini-camp last weekend. Prude and Paschal were both signed as reserve/future free agents by Atlanta on January 7, 2009.
D3
May 15th, 2009
9:32 am
2009 Atlanta Falcons Schedule Analysis
This Week: Atlanta Falcons vs. Miami Dolphins (Game 1)
Atlanta Falcons vs. Miami Dolphins; September 13th @ The Georgia Dome
2008 Atlanta Falcons
W/L: 11-5; Playoffs: Wild-Card Round
Scored 391 points (24.4/g), 10th of 32 in the NFL.
Allowed 325 points (20.3/g), 11th.
Differential of 66 points (4.1/g), 11th.
Takeaway/Giveaway Differential -3 (-0.2/g), 21st
Coach: Mike Smith
Key Losses
Dominique Foxworth, Grady Jackson, Keith Brooking, Lawyer Milloy, Michael Boley, Laurent Robinson
Key Addition
Mike Peterson, Tony Gonzalez
Draft: Peria Jerry, William Moore, Chris Owens, Lawrence Sidbury
2008 Miami Dolphins
11-5; Division Champs, Playoffs: Wild-Card Round
Scored 345 points (21.6/g), 21st of 32 in the NFL.
Allowed 317 points (19.8/g), 9th.
Differential of 28 points (1.8/g), 16th.
Takeaway/Giveaway Differential +17 (1.1/g), 1st.
Coach: Tony Sparano
Key Losses: Derek Smith, Renaldo Hill, Vonnie Holiday
Key Additions: Gibril Wilson, Jason Taylor, Eric Green
Draft: Vontae Davis(CB), Pat White(QB/WR/RB), Sean Smith(S/CB)
Likely Match-ups
Miami Offense vs. Atlanta Defense
LT – Jake Long vs. RDE – Jamaal Anderson
LG – Justin Smiley vs. RDT – Peria Jerry
RG – Ike Ndukwe vs. LDT – Jonathan Babineaux
RT – Joe Berger? vs. John Abraham
TE-Anthony Fasano/David Martin vs. OLB-Mike Peterson/Stephen Nicholas
RB – Ronnie Brown vs. MLB – Curtis Lofton
QB-Chad Pennington vs. FS-Erik Coleman/SS Thomas DeCoud
WR-Ted Ginn Jr. vs. CB-Chris Houston
WR-Greg Camarillo vs. CB-Chevis Jackson
Atlanta Offense vs. Miami Defense
LT-Sam Baker vs RDE-Jason Taylor
LG-Justin Blaylock vs. ILB-Akin Ayodele
C-Todd McClure vs NT-Jason Ferguson
RG-Harvey Dahl vs. ILB-Channing Crowder
RT-Tyson Clabo vs. LDE-Kendall Langford
TE-Tony Gonzalez vs. OLB-Joey Porter
FB-Ovie Mughelli/RB-Michael Turner vs OLB-Derek Smith/SS-Yeremiah Bell
WR-Roddy White vs. CB-Will Allen
WR-Michael Jenkins vs CB-Vontae Davis
QB-Matty Ice vs. FS-Gibril Wilson
So Bird-Cage brothers and sisters, what you think about these possible matchups?
More later………
WR
May 15th, 2009
9:49 am
Morning to all, I would have said good morning but the Raiders are on the clock. I don’t see this team as being necessarily that bad, but with the owner playing GM,and coach its just hard for the team to progress. I agree mostly with the earlier post concerning the team so I will proceed to my picks. By the way I agree with you Row3, that was the idea, kind of using the team,divisional,and rookie of the year picks to formulate somewhat of our own fantasy league.
1 SD@Oak-L,not the blowout that some will imagine but Raiders go down
2 Oak@KC-W,Raiders take advantage of a team in a reversal of fortune
3 Den@Oak-W,Broncs actually give the Raiders a ray of hope
4 Oak@Hou-L,Raiders put up a good battle against a decent team
5 Oak@NYG-L,Raiders confidence had been building before this smack down
6 Phi@Oak-L,Hangover from Giants smackdown lead to a thorough beatdown
7 NYJ@Oak-L,Rex Ryan’s defense confuses the crap out of Russell as he is benched in favor of Garcia
8 Oak@SD-L,With Garcia leading the team Raiders put up a go showing
9 Bye-Raiders prepare to actually go on a bit of a winning streak
10KC@Oak-W,Raiders stomp on the lowly Chiefs as Cassel continues to struggle
11Cin@Oak-W,Even though much improved, Bengals go down in the black hole
12Oak@Dal-W,Al Davis shows Jerry Jones that at least this game he is the better owner/coach
13Oak@Pit-L,After recent streak Raiders believe that have a chance but not so much
14Was@Oak-L,by the time the Raiders shake off the defeat at Pittsburgh its to late
15Oak@Den-L,Russell reclaims his job in a bitter loss
16Oak@Cle-W,Russell gets his first taste of shredding a defense
17Bal@Oak-Raiders go down to a Ravens team battling for a wildcard
Raiders show some improvement and go 6-10
cutter
May 15th, 2009
9:54 am
The simple truth is that the corner position was not very deep in this years draft.
Sarah B
May 15th, 2009
10:38 am
OK her we go with OAK – AKA Whatever!!!
2009 Oakland Raiders Schedule
1 Sep 14 SD @ OAK – L Good Luck with this one
2 Sep 20 OAK @ KC – L Already gave this to KC
3 Sep 27 DEN @ OAK – L
4 Oct 04 OAK @ HOU – L
5 Oct 11 OAK @ NYG – Ouch tough schedule
6 Oct 18 PHI @ OAK – L
7 Oct 25 NYJ @ OAK – W Can’t lose em all
8 Nov 01 OAK @ SD – L
9 Bye
10 Nov 15 KC @ OAK – W
11 Nov 22 CIN @ OAK – W
12 Nov 26 OAK @ DAL – L
13 Dec 06 OAK @ PIT – L
14 Dec 13 WAS @ OAK – W
15 Dec 20 OAK @ DEN – L
16 Dec 27 OAK @ CLE – L
17 Jan 03 BAL @ OAK – L
4-12
Sarah B
May 15th, 2009
11:42 am
BTW Folks cutter isn’t an insider, he just copies and pastes stuff from AtlantaFalcons.com.
WR
May 15th, 2009
12:19 pm
Sarah B, I thought you were supposed to be laying by a pool tanning, stop telling on people,LOL.
cutter
May 15th, 2009
1:00 pm
Sarah B- I have never claimed to be an insider. There are people who seem to want info that evidently they cannot find on their own so I post it, but since it confuses you I’ll stop.
cutter
May 15th, 2009
1:12 pm
But it’s good to hear that while you are sitting by the pool trying to gain some color you are thinking about me.
row3
May 15th, 2009
1:31 pm
1 SD @ OAK – L
2 OAK @ KC – L
3 DEN @ OAK – L
4 OAK @ HOU – L
5 OAK @ NYG – L
6 PHI @ OAK – L
7 NYJ @ OAK – W
8 OAK @ SD – L
9 BYE
10 KC @ OAK – L
11 CIN @ OAK – W
12 OAK @ DAL – L
13 OAK @ PIT – L
14 WAS @ OAK – L
15 OAK @ DEN – L
16 OAK @ CLE – W
17 BAL @ OAK – L
3-13 I have them going 0-6 in the conference, thats a little cruel, but I looked back and had KC beating them twice. The #1 draft choice could be theirs for the taking in 2010.
SonicJim
May 15th, 2009
1:34 pm
Hey guys, long time reader first time blogger. I too am a huge falcon fan and can’t wait for the season opener against Miami. My story is this, I grew up in N.Y. was a falcons fan the day I saw Billy White shoes catch that hail mary pass against the 49ers and the rest is what you call history. I don’t know what I’d do without the power of Direct tv. I enjoy reading everyone’s posts but not able to contribute as much as you all.
I was happy when Schaub got traded to Houston because this is my home now. If he can just stop gettin hurt he will be playoff bound. Anyway, thanks for readin.
Stirg d'Nahsif
May 15th, 2009
1:35 pm
Oooooo, football camp must be around the corner.
JohnWayneworld
May 15th, 2009
1:35 pm
The Rayyy-dahz:
1 Sep 14 SD @ OAK (loss)
2 Sep 20 OAK @ KC (loss)
3 Sep 27 DEN @ OAK (loss)
4 Oct 04 OAK @ HOU (loss)
5 Oct 11 OAK @ NYG (loss)
6 Oct 18 PHI @ OAK (loss)
7 Oct 25 NYJ @ OAK (loss)
8 Nov 01 OAK @ SD (loss)
9 Bye
10 Nov 15 KC @ OAK (win)
11 Nov 22 CIN @ OAK (loss)
12 Nov 26 OAK @ DAL (loss)
13 Dec 06 OAK @ PIT (loss)
14 Dec 13 WAS @ OAK (loss)
15 Dec 20 OAK @ DEN (loss)
16 Dec 27 OAK @ CLE (loss)
17 Jan 03 BAL @ OAK (loss)
1–15 with a feelin’!
Explanation: This is not a “TEAM”. It is collection of trinkets, like Mardi Gras beads, all thrown into a big empty basket called Macafee Coliseum, aka “The Virus”.
And starring Al Davis as the stiff.
JohnWayneworld
May 15th, 2009
1:40 pm
D3, while I agree that we can’t discuss DJ vs Redman ad nauseum, I think that discussing this particular team for any amount of time would actually create nausea. Da Rayyy-dahzzzz. Zuck.
JohnWayneworld
May 15th, 2009
1:42 pm
Page 6!!
row3
May 15th, 2009
1:51 pm
SonicJim,
I was a huge Schaub fan, I thought we really lost a quality QB that could of helped us alot in 2007. Things happen for reason, we now have Matty, and all is good. I wish the best of luck to Schaub this year.
Unca' Bob
May 15th, 2009
2:08 pm
SonicJim,
Welcome to the Cage. I’m in and out all day, but there should be some of the “Irregulars” posting. Got the Grand Babies over the weekend. More housework needed. Gotta’ run.
D3
May 15th, 2009
2:18 pm
Great Friday Afternoon Bird-Cager’s! Looks to be a warm, enjoyable start to the weekend. Haven’t hit the storms they said were rollin’ through the ATL, at least not yet. Good day for some cold brews as we head into the weekend. Had some Landshark Lager yesterday, that’s some good stuff. Anyway, I digress…………
SonicJim – great to have you post here in the Bird-Cage. Come join in and give us your thoughts anytime. We have tons of transplants Falcons fans from all over the nation and globe. Speaking of Houston, I thought they had a good draft with Cushing and Barwin. If they can find a big back complement to Slaton and a speedy WR opposite Andre Johnson, that offense would be really potent, especially with TE Owen Daniels. Anyway, welcome to the blog.
Sarah B. & JohnWayneworld – yeah, like I said not the greatest division to start with, but next week should be better with the AFC North. But you all are rockin’ out some seriously good record predictions, though.
So, you guys know I’m all about getting creative to keeping the Bird-Cage rockin’ hard-core. So think what you guys think about adding this to the discussion starting next week:
Individual 53-man Roster Analysis
-each weekday analyze every single roster spot
-every position from starting QB to backup strong safety
-if we do one each weekday for the rest of the summer, that rolls us right into training camp
Schedule
1 Monday 18-May QB 1
2 Tuesday 19-May QB 2
3 Wednesday 20-May QB 3
4 Thursday 21-May RB 1
5 Friday 22-May RB 2
6 Monday 25-May RB 3
7 Tuesday 26-May FB 1
8 Wednesday 27-May FB 2
9 Thursday 28-May TE 1
10 Friday 29-May K
11 Monday 1-Jun TE 2
12 Tuesday 2-Jun TE 3
13 Wednesday 3-Jun WR 1
14 Thursday 4-Jun WR 2
15 Friday 5-Jun WR 3/Slot
16 Monday 8-Jun WR 4
17 Tuesday 9-Jun WR 5
18 Wednesday 10-Jun WR 6
19 Thursday 11-Jun LT
20 Friday 12-Jun LG
21 Monday 15-Jun C
22 Tuesday 16-Jun RG
23 Wednesday 17-Jun RT
24 Thursday 18-Jun Tackle 3
25 Friday 19-Jun Tackle 4
26 Monday 22-Jun Guard 1
27 Tuesday 23-Jun Guard 2
28 Wednesday 24-Jun LDE
29 Thursday 25-Jun RDE
30 Friday 26-Jun DE 3
31 Monday 29-Jun DE 4
32 Tuesday 30-Jun DE 5
33 Wednesday 1-Jul DT
34 Thursday 2-Jul DT
35 Friday 3-Jul DT 3
36 Monday 6-Jul DT 4
37 Tuesday 7-Jul MLB
38 Wednesday 8-Jul MLB 2
39 Thursday 9-Jul WLB
40 Friday 10-Jul SLB
41 Monday 13-Jul SLB 2
42 Tuesday 14-Jul WLB
43 Wednesday 15-Jul WLB 2
44 Thursday 16-Jul SS
45 Friday 17-Jul SS 2
46 Monday 20-Jul FS 1
47 Tuesday 21-Jul FS 2
48 Wednesday 22-Jul CB
49 Thursday 23-Jul CB
50 Friday 24-Jul CB 3
51 Monday 27-Jul CB 4
52 Tuesday 28-Jul CB 5
53 Wednesday 29-Jul DB
Bubble Thursday 30-Jul Punter
Bubble Friday 31-Jul Long Snapper
So what you guys think of this proposal? I’m all ears on constructive criticism as well, so don’t hold back if please.
So we can have the Division/Team Analysis, Opponent Schedule Analysis, and Individual Roster Spot Analysis.
BTW, can anyone explain to me why DOB’s Braves Blog is so d@— popular? They have like over 2,500 posts in 3 days. Don’t really get that one. Are the Braves that much more popular than our Falconi’s?
jason
May 15th, 2009
2:36 pm
D3, DOB’s blog in in season.When football season gets here, it’s gonna get crazy. DOL started a good format here. And guys like you and a few others; you add to the momentum. Like DOB’s blog you have alot of regulars on here and that’s what will keep this blog growing. That and slamming the door on idiots that want trash talk and pick fights.
The difference with DOB is that he ventures outside of baseball. Dives into alot of music and movies. Also every park he goes to, he describes the scene of the city. Gives out good places to eat, take in entertainment, and such. DOB, also like here in the cage understands that fans are world wide and just not in the state of Georgia.
I am gonna touch on something here and not wanting to start anything. The Atlanta Falcons (all blogs, not just thgis one) blog in my opinion took a hit with the Vick situation. The things I read over that period of time were digusting; it still goes on today. You have seen Bradley’s blog, or Moore’s before he departed.I think that’s what makes this blog so good, special. Certain regulars on this blog will not put up with that nonsense. Nip it in the bud.That’s also why I think this blog will continue to grow; because of people like you, WR, Ken, Strig, and the rest of you who respect , and defend this blog if and when you have to.
Sarah B
May 15th, 2009
3:13 pm
cutter I never said there was anything Wrong with posting from the Falcons webpage. As you know I have posted info from both yahoo and Fox Sports. Some other people thought you were an insider, which would have been cool BTW.
JohnWaynesworld
May 15th, 2009
3:19 pm
D3, Braves fans are scattered throughout the U.S. due to Ted Turner’s long reaching TBS channel back in the day when men were men and women were women. Oops, did I say something politically incorrect? Good.
I like the added analysis, especially after trying to find interest in today’s topic, Oakland. I think it would be fun! I can’t wait until we try to make predictions on the first cut! Should be a doozy.
D3
May 15th, 2009
3:41 pm
Quick Note: kind of suprised that UDFA Nicholson(LB) got the hook so fast, I thought with his size and speed he may challenge Robert James for the 6th backup LB spot. Guess not
Cutter – keep the info coming brother. We’ll take it where we can get it. DOL must be chillin’ beach-side in the Bahamas.
Where are our boys Seminole, Reno911, & Nookah? Do we need to send a search and rescue party for them? Haven’t seen a post from irvin or Ken Strick in a while either.
Sarah B
May 15th, 2009
4:43 pm
Bye ya’ll thlk at you Monday. Ugg I have to work tomorrow so maybe I’ll check in after all.
Jimbo
May 15th, 2009
4:58 pm
Just saw this post, thought y’all would enjoy:
FLOWERY BRANCH, Ga. — Take just about any team that was in the playoffs last season and remove five starters from the defense. In theory, that team’s probably not going back to the playoffs.
Now, take the Atlanta Falcons.
They got rid of almost half their defensive starters and expect to be better on defense. Wishful thinking? Not really.
Think about all the wonderful things that went right for the Falcons in a stunning 11-5 season. The defense wasn’t really one of them. This fact kind of got lost in the hysteria of quarterback Matt Ryan having a great rookie season and Michael Turner running wild.
The simple reality is that Atlanta’s defense wasn’t very good. The Falcons ranked 25th in rush defense, allowing 2,046 yards on the ground. Against the pass, the Falcons allowed 3,526 yards. That’s only 21 yards less than New Orleans allowed and the Saints were widely considered one of the league’s worst defenses.
John Abraham collected 16.5 sacks and forced four fumbles last season. Sure, Atlanta’s defense played well enough to help the Falcons win 11 games, but it was done with smoke, mirrors, John Abraham and a whole lot of luck.
General manager Thomas Dimitroff and coach Mike Smith were painfully aware the defense wasn’t going to get any better by standing still and that’s why they didn’t. Linebacker Keith Brooking, defensive tackle Grady Jackson, cornerback Domonique Foxworth and linebacker Michael Boley were allowed to walk in free agency and safety Lawyer Milloy was released.
The truth is Foxworth was the only one of the bunch the Falcons wanted to keep, but only if they could do it at a reasonable price and that didn’t happen. Brooking, Jackson and Milloy were great players — a few years ago. But last season, they were old guys and liabilities. Boley fell out of favor with the coaching staff and wasn’t even starting at the end of last year.
The names of the guys who are going to replace those five aren’t going to excite anyone, but maybe they should. Atlanta’s defense is going to be better in the long run because of the housecleaning. But it also might be better right away.
“I came into the meeting (on the first day of last week’s minicamp) and I saw Abe and a couple old guys,” safety Erik Coleman said. “But for the most part, it was first- and second-year guys. I think it’s a good thing. We’ve got a lot of youth on our team and a lot of guys that are hungry to show they can play.”
Falcons head coach Mike Smith talks about sustaining the success of last year’s team. We won’t know for sure if all the young guys can play for a few more months. But they might have a better chance than last year’s defense. They at least fit the profile.
When Smith and Dimitroff came in last year, they focused most of their efforts on offense, signing Turner to a big free-agent contract and using the third overall draft pick on Ryan. Smith, who came with a defensive background, didn’t truly have the kind of players he wanted on defense, so he had to make do.
But that’s no longer an issue. Atlanta’s offseason was all about defense and players who fit Smith’s scheme. The Falcons are younger and the upgraded speed of the defense was obvious in minicamp.
They used their first-round pick on defensive tackle Peria Jerry and their second-round choice on safety William Moore. They’re the likely replacements for Jackson and Milloy. They firmly believe that third-year pro Stephen Nicholas is ready to blossom and take over Boley’s old spot on the strong side. They’re not sure exactly who will start in Foxworth’s spot, but they’re going to throw Brent Grimes, Von Hutchins, Chevis Jackson and Chris Owens out there and see who rises up.
The Falcons didn’t necessarily get younger at weakside linebacker where free-agent Mike Peterson is only a year younger than Brooking. But Peterson spent much of his career under Smith in Jacksonville and he wouldn’t have been brought in if he didn’t fit the system.
Mike Peterson could provide some of the veteran leadership that the Falcons lost this offseason. The one potential downside to the youth movement is that the Falcons lost a lot of experience and leadership in Brooking, Milloy and Jackson and nobody is denying that’s a concern.
Smith doesn’t believe in randomly anointing leaders and he’s given a lot of thought to where his defensive leadership will come from.
“When you’re a good player and you have success on the field, it leads to leadership,” Smith said. “They become leaders.”
At the moment, the Falcons don’t have as many defensive leaders as a year ago. But Smith thinks that will change quickly.
Abraham’s already a leader. Coleman was close to being one last year and should have room to spread his wings with Milloy gone. Peterson’s a natural leader and already is getting comfortable with his new team. Middle linebacker Curtis Lofton was thrust into a leadership role as a rookie by the nature of his position and Smith expects his development in that role will accelerate this year.
“Instead of having one or two leaders, you’ve got to have eight or nine leaders throughout the entire team,” Smith said. “There has to be a balance there.”
Balance really is what the Falcons are aiming for on defense. They’ve got veterans in Abraham, Coleman and Peterson, young guys in the rookies and second-year players and some guys in between like defensive tackle Jonathan Babineaux and cornerback Chris Houston.
“We’ve got enough veteran leadership that can work out with the younger players to be a great blend,” defensive coordinator Brian VanGorder said. “With young players, it’s always a process. Right now, it’s crucial that we work hard to allow them to get comfortable so they can attach themselves to the leadership and let it shine through.”
Dean 21
May 15th, 2009
5:26 pm
What’s Happening Bird Cage~
Well, this is a first…Page 6!!! A shout out and a toast to my boy Waymon Tisdale who lost his bout with cancer today. A heck of a ball player and surprisely a darn good bass player!
Dean 21
May 15th, 2009
5:27 pm
Sarah B. , yes you do have football in the veins, that IV drop flows red and black of the birds now, which makes teh long suffering in Detroit a distant memory!
Dean 21
May 15th, 2009
6:22 pm
2009 Oakland Raiders – Dean 21
1 Sep 14 SD @ OAK – L
2 Sep 20 OAK @ KC – L
3 Sep 27 DEN @ OAK – L
4 Oct 04 OAK @ HOU – W
5 Oct 11 OAK @ NYG – L
6 Oct 18 PHI @ OAK – L
7 Oct 25 NYJ @ OAK – W
8 Nov 01 OAK @ SD – L
9 Bye
10 Nov 15 KC @ OAK – W
11 Nov 22 CIN @ OAK – L
12 Nov 26 OAK @ DAL – L
13 Dec 06 OAK @ PIT – L
14 Dec 13 WAS @ OAK – L
15 Dec 20 OAK @ DEN – L
16 Dec 27 OAK @ CLE – W
17 Jan 03 BAL @ OAK – L
Final = 4-12
Who knows if Jeff Garcia takes over, that will be at least one win, maybe 2…so 6-10 is not out of the question.
Unca' Bob
May 15th, 2009
6:24 pm
Jimbo,
Very nice read, thank you. It’s always interesting hearing the opinionsof others.
Dean 21,
My glass is on high. He will sorely missed.
row3
May 15th, 2009
6:32 pm
cutter, Jimbo, and everybody else, Thanks for the info you bring in from other sites. I can come right here and get the latest info without having to surf the web. I thank all of you for your efforts to keep everything FALCONS!
Dean 21
May 15th, 2009
6:33 pm
Unca’ Bob,
I seen the cat in concer here in the Atl at the Civic Center a few years ago and he was jammin man! I have all his cd’s, just a shocker, life is short which we just have to play hard! Dude gave them he*l on the court and again, he became a quality musician. Ditto on the glass bro…
Following the Falcons this season will be good, simple and easy. In years pass it was bad, painful and hard!
Wassup D3, stirg, jason, johnww, WR, and fellow Bird Cagers? We need to put something together for all of us to meet one day at the F Branch during trainig camp!
Jimbo
May 15th, 2009
6:37 pm
Unca – Thanks. I having been following this blog for a while and finally decided to chime in. Of course I didn’t have an original thought in that post but I’ve noticed y’all are news hounds like me so . . .
I’ve lived here for 21 years and I cannot remember being this excited for a Falcons season to begin. I think Arhtur has put together the right pieces for the Falcons to have a sustained contender and make it into the 2nd season with regualrity.
Y’all have a great blog going here with mature, intelligent and respectful members. I look forward to joining in with y’all regularly.
Dean 21
May 15th, 2009
6:42 pm
So what you guys think of this proposal? I’m all ears on constructive criticism as well, so don’t hold back if please.
So we can have the Division/Team Analysis, Opponent Schedule Analysis, and Individual Roster Spot Analysis.
BTW, can anyone explain to me why DOB’s Braves Blog is so d@— popular? They have like over 2,500 posts in 3 days. Don’t really get that one. Are the Braves that much more popular than our Falconi’s?
D3, I’m down with the new addition of the 53 man roster break-down. I told you the other day, you my man are King Blog Master of the Cage!!!
By the way, I don’t think that Braves are more popular, I think they have a younger following i.e.(teenagers), who loves to blog man!
jason
May 15th, 2009
6:50 pm
Jimbo, That was a great article. That says it all. Talking about the process. Year one, it was all offense. Year two, all Offense. After this year, going into the next draft it will be all about tweaking and fine tuning. All part of the process. Look guys, some are going to fail. Some sre definitely going to rise. You think last year was awesome? you think this year is going to be ULTRA awesome. Wait until next year. I say right now, Atlanta will be in the NFC Champioship playing for the Super Bowl next season. Oh Yeah, we were talking about this year. This year is another step in the process. I would love more than anything for my Falcons; I mean OUR Falcons to go to the Super Bowl this year. I don’t think it’s going to happen. Don’t get upset and Ban me from the blog, now. I think we are going to be as good this year, if not better than last. I just don’t know if the won/loss record is going to show it. Next year is key. Ryan in his third year QBing the O. Lofton in his third year, taking over the Leadership role; QBing the D. That will be the True beginning of the prime years for this collection of Falcons. TD, and Coach Smitty has our(the FANS) best interests at heart. SO, CHEER on the PROCESS this year; it will be served soon.
jason
May 15th, 2009
6:52 pm
Dean 21, I will toast a beer, He was RunTMC… Great basketball player.
jason
May 15th, 2009
7:01 pm
Dean 21, I am out to getcha now. I can’t tell the difference between the Braves and the Falcons. All I know is they are in GEORGIA. I will follow them all the way. But yea much love has to go out to this blog. This is truly an expierence to talk Football without all the Smack talk. I have met some truly loyal fans, intellegent people who share and converse their opinons on all things Falcon. Who pull articles and post them so we get the most updated news and info on our favorite team. Geez, wish I could find a blog like this for UGA. Anyway Dean21, love your posts, looking foward to some more news.
By the way, sorry for posting so much, just trying to get caught up. I have been away for the majority of the day. I was just responding to each post while it was fresh.
jason
May 15th, 2009
7:09 pm
Dean 21, I totally misspoke on tisdale. I reconised the name from following the NBA as little as I do. Disregard my earlier post. I thought he played for Golden State in the 80’s. I see, after doing a search he was with Sacremento, not GS.
Unca' Bob
May 15th, 2009
8:21 pm
Jimbo,
Granma’ is straping the foodbag on to the critters so I gotta’ minute. I believe your particular fit will be like that of the most comfortable pair of jeans you have ever put on. I, for one, welcome you to the Cage.
JJ
May 15th, 2009
8:25 pm
OAK 5 – 11
Dean 21
May 15th, 2009
8:45 pm
Jason, yeah, I was just giving him a shout because he was a good dude! Enjoyed and will continue to enjoy his music. Jason, here is a little break-down on Tisdale.
After three years at Oklahoma, Tisdale played in the NBA with the Indiana Pacers, Sacramento Kings and Phoenix Suns. The 6-foot-9 forward, with a soft left-handed touch on the court, averaged 15.3 points for his career. He was on the U.S. team that won the gold medal in the 1984 Olympics.
yeah, I’m looking forward to OTA’S & Training Camp. The biggest thing the Falcons defense should be prepared is the wild cat from the Dolphins. Being that this is the first game of the season, Miami will throw all they can at the Falcons defense including the young rookies!
Of course we will return the favor back to them!!
Dean 21
May 15th, 2009
8:50 pm
Well you can tell it’s Friday because the Cage has slowed down. My man D3 is getting a much needed break, it’s been a busy week of posts. Jason, did I hear you also followed the red & black down in Athens? If so, man you got a friend in he Dean! I just picked up my “G” dawg lounge chair! The Red & Black goes along way with me, just have been a follower of both organizations since I can remember….nothing can replace those H.Walkers days and the W. Andrews days in the ATL.
Dean 21
May 15th, 2009
8:51 pm
Jason, yeah, I was just giving him a shout out because he was a good dude! Enjoyed and will continue to enjoy his music. Jason, here is a little break-down on Tisdale.
After three years at Oklahoma, Tisdale played in the NBA with the Indiana Pacers, Sacramento Kings and Phoenix Suns. The 6-foot-9 forward, with a soft left-handed touch on the court, averaged 15.3 points for his career. He was on the U.S. team that won the gold medal in the 1984 Olympics.
yeah, I’m looking forward to OTA’S & Training Camp. The biggest thing the Falcons defense should be preparing for is the wild cat from the Dolphins. Being that this is the first game of the season, Miami will throw all they can at the Falcons defense including the young rookies!
Of course we will return the favor back to them!!
jason
May 15th, 2009
9:01 pm
Dean 21, you just didn’t say William Andrews. He was the reason I started watching ATL. I was like 7 or 8 years old. Them days seem to run together now. But Andrews, Bartkowski, Lynn Cain, Buddy Curry. I remember as a kid, I cried when Andrews blew his Knee out.
Can’t get started on my DAWGS. This is an NFL site Afterwall. I’ll just say… I thinkg they will be alot better than what alotta people think. Herschel Walker, was the man. I have a confession though. I loved Herchel when he was UGA. But when Jerry Jones bought the Cowboys, and hired Jimmy Johnson as HC, ATL played Dallas that year and I wanted them to break Herschel’s neck. I know I was a kid. I didn’t know no better. To some time to understand that the NFL was just a buissness.
Lets run some UGA history while the blog is slow. Tell me if I missed RB. Walker, Tate, Worley, Henderson, Hampton, Hearst, Davis, Gary, Smith, Brown, Moreno. Now, I know Mack Strong was in there, but I thoght he was a FB at UGA. And of course Ware, and Lumpkin.
jason
May 15th, 2009
9:03 pm
Oh Yeah, Almost forgot. I am RED and BLACK all the way. Cairo Highschool Syrupmakers, Georgia Bulldogs, and the Atlanta Falcons. I literally bleed red-n-black.
Dean 21
May 15th, 2009
9:22 pm
yup Jason, William was my main man running that ball also! Man this dude was awesome when healthy! Man you do bleed Red & Black!! I can’t wait to see our offense turn some heads this season!
Dean 21
May 15th, 2009
9:25 pm
Well, it’s time for the Dean to roll out~ Will check in later throughout the weekend!!
Unca' Bob
May 15th, 2009
9:37 pm
Dean 21,
To conteract the wildcat, I feel Miami needs to watch out for the Falcon’s “Raptor” package. I don’t feel Miami has enough to bring to the table to win the first game. Strig tossed out some numbers about their best Wr’s and RB’s for last year and proposed the question, how did they do it. After looking at D3’s stat post, plus 17 turnover ratio. #1 in the NFL. That is, on potential, 102 points, not including extra points. Their spread for points, for and against was 28. Any questions? The Falcons graded out at minus three on the turnover ratio. Having said that…Falcons 27 Miami 17. Gotta’ love Tony G.
jason
May 15th, 2009
9:54 pm
Jimbo, Welcome to the cage. Just wanted to say I referenced the’WhiteShoes”Johnson Catch yesterday. One of the single greatest play in Falcon History. I remember it like it was yesterday. Question, did “whiteSoes”really score, or did he crawl into the endzone. You know, they didn’t have replay review back then.
Big Ray
May 15th, 2009
9:55 pm
RIP, Wayman Tisdale. Hell of a jazz player, and hell of a player for the Jazz.
jason
May 15th, 2009
10:02 pm
Unca’ Bob, I agree. What’s the chances of pulling that type of turnover ratio again? I believe you have to have talent, and positioning. But you also have to have a whole lotta luck to pull a+17 ratio. Now, Pennington is savy enough. He want lose the game for them. ATL just has to play sound defense against the run and the “Wildcat”. That will be the key to the game. The 11th commandment… Thou shall stop the run.
falcon21
May 15th, 2009
10:47 pm
Jason and Unca’Bob, I have a short story for you and it’s kinda boring so bare with me. In 95 or 96 not sure. The Falcons were playing the Vikings in the dome and getting pounded. June Jones was the coach, Jeff George the QB. Anyway sometime in the second half C. Bennett better known as biscuit hit someone and caused a fumble recovering it. He then kicked the football into the stands. I was about 20 or 25 rows up at about the 25 yard line. The ball came straight to me and I caught it. That is all I remember from that game because I ended up on the floor underneath about 10 fans and was sore for a week. I thought someday I may catch a baseball but to catch a football means alot to me. Still have it. Sorry for the boring story.
jason
May 15th, 2009
11:08 pm
D3, are we starting the AFC North tomorrow? falcon21, Good story. I would imagine the football took more work than a baseball would have.
falcon21
May 15th, 2009
11:10 pm
By the way Jason, that WhiteShoes catch cost me winning 50 dollars. I was not betting against the Falcons, it was one of those final score boards but I was happy as heck to see them win because it was not a good season.
Mike
May 16th, 2009
12:01 am
Jimbo…excellent post. I personally feel from watching Lofton develop last year… from game 1 facing Detroit until game 16 against St Louis, he was beginning to assume a leadership role. Some become leaders after years of being thrust into a leadership role, and some are leaders by nature and instinct. I think lofton is natural bor leader, and that will be exhibited on the field this year. I think Jerry and Moore will be day 1 starters, look for Owens to be an impact rookie, and Sidbury to be a major contributor on 3rd down. I also agree that nicholas is ready to blossom. I also think Bierman should be moved to LB…weakside, 3rd down specialist. I love the philosphy of this team… bring in rookies to force the 2nd and 3 rd year guys to step their games up.
Ed
May 16th, 2009
2:55 am
2009 Oakland Raiders – Dean 21
1 Sep 14 SD @ OAK – L
2 Sep 20 OAK @ KC – L
3 Sep 27 DEN @ OAK – W
4 Oct 04 OAK @ HOU – L
5 Oct 11 OAK @ NYG – L
6 Oct 18 PHI @ OAK – L
7 Oct 25 NYJ @ OAK – W
8 Nov 01 OAK @ SD – L
9 Bye
10 Nov 15 KC @ OAK – W
11 Nov 22 CIN @ OAK – L
12 Nov 26 OAK @ DAL – L
13 Dec 06 OAK @ PIT – L
14 Dec 13 WAS @ OAK – W
15 Dec 20 OAK @ DEN – L
16 Dec 27 OAK @ CLE – L
17 Jan 03 BAL @ OAK – L
4 – 12 It will take a miracle for Oakland to get out of the doldrums they have been in for years until Al Davis is gone / retired.
jason
May 16th, 2009
8:32 am
ALrighr, who’s gotta hangover? The blog was running a lil’ thin last night. All good, seeing it was a Friday night. I wanto reference Mikes’s post about Lofton. Earlier yersterday, I was talking About Year three of TD and Coach Smitty being the beginning of this group of Falcon’s prime years for SuperBowl contention. The simple reason is the developement of Ryan and Lofton. You know Ryan gotta alot of love from the media. It was all fair and deserved. Lofton got know love, and I thought he was perhaps the most important aspect for the D. Atlanta drafted two QBs this past year. One for O, and one for D.
row3
May 16th, 2009
9:18 am
Good Morning, Guilty on the hangover, also had to be at work @ 8:30, not a good mixture, all is good. Falcon21, good story on catching the football at a game, I remember Biscuit well, I have one of his practice jerseys. Who was it back in the 70’s that everytime he scored a TD he threw the ball in the stands, back then the NFL fined pretty heavy for that, but he did it anyway. It’s too early for me to think that far back, somebody help me out here.
jason
May 16th, 2009
9:48 am
row3, Man that’s a tough question on an early Saturday morning. The 70’s, that was before my time. I started following in the 80’s. The first game I remember was the Dallas/ Atlanta playoff game. Iwas like 7yrs. old I think. Dang, so long ago.
row3
May 16th, 2009
9:57 am
jason, You forgot Jasper Sanks, or was it Jasper Tanks, maybe, Jasper Shanks.
jason
May 16th, 2009
10:06 am
row3, That’s probably why I forgot him. lol I wanted to put Jamaal Lewis instead. Hey, I asked a question the other day about ATL’s OL. Give me 3 opinions. One on what you thought going into last season. 2) what you thought by then of last season. #3 What do you think going into this season. Are the good, servicable, or a liability?
jason
May 16th, 2009
10:18 am
row3, I have alot of thoughts or opinions concerning ATL. Not just this year, but throughout their history. Like for instance. Why has Atlanta consistently avoided drafting UGA players; or even GT players. I know it seems like they have made an effort here recently with DJ, Thomas, and even Brooking from GT. They also brought in Tony Taylor, and Brandon Miller. The reason I ask is back when Tony Dungy rebuilt the Bucs; he did so by using alot in in state(FL) talent. I’m not saying the whole team should be nothing but UGA/GT players… Just ATL has been bad enough to where we could have gotten a Seymour to soildify the DL, Thomas Brown to play Safety, A stroud, Fergurson. UGA was so strong on the defensive side in the Donnan years as far as pro talent. I can’t really speak for GT; I don’t follow them at all.
Jimbo
May 16th, 2009
10:27 am
Jason,
Regarding the OL, going into the season, I didn’t really know what to expect. If you listened to the media then we were in a world of hurt. I remember lots of folks saying that even if Mattie Ice was ready that we should hold him out for at least the first 4-5 games until the OL could be evaluated. But you’ve got to give them thier props. The coaching staff, I think, knew what they had and had faith in the offensive unit. That’s huge. That stuff translates to the players having faith in themselves and they proved it on the field.
The the end of last season, I thought the OL had a bunch of BAs that liked to impose their wills on the opposing team, had a mean streak. Did you happen to notice how many times the Burner scored it was the OL celebrating in the end zone with him. They knew they were a big part of that and success breeds success.
This year in think we are only going to be better. The entire unit is in tact, Reynolds looks like he is a beast, the guys huge, and we are building good, quality depth. I am syched. This year is going to provide a lot of reasons to revel in being a Falcon Fan. Two consecutive winning seasons and another playoff appearance are IMO a done deal. Go Falcons . . .
Sarah B
May 16th, 2009
10:34 am
Again guys ditto on the hangover and ditto on the being stuck at work on a Saturday – at least the weather is crappy or I’d be pished off. Jason, AFC North starts Monday. Welcome Jimbo and Dean 21 I think we should all meet up at training camp this summer. It will be a hoot to put faces to our Falcon lovin brethern.
Sarah B
May 16th, 2009
10:40 am
jason – I liked you mentioned we coulda had a Stroud. I work with his cousin Willie Stroud right here in the Atl. He was great with JAX. Didn’t hear much about last year with the Bills.
jason
May 16th, 2009
10:45 am
Jimbo, Agreed. The report coming out in all those preseason mags was that the ATL ol, was perhaps the worst in the entire NFL. Worse than, CLE, DET, BAD. I was impressed with the way the gelled from the get go. ATL had one starter, the Center McClure. remember Blalock was benched by Petrino. And the T weiner was hurt. ATL’s OL was built on FAs who were at best back ups for other teams. I know alot of love and respect gfoes out to the OL coach. But you have to give the players their due. To be able to come together and gell so quickly. The main way the salary cap hurts a NFL team is at the OL. You have to have continuity at those 5 spots. For our OL to learn a new offense, new technique in blocking. to do all that and gell so quickly… Just tremendous.
Sarah B
May 16th, 2009
10:51 am
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Jimbo
May 16th, 2009
11:49 am
Jason brought up some thought provoking questions regarding the OL. I see parallels with our DL this year. We don’t really know what we have, so what are you opinions about the DL line going into the season? Good, serviceable or a liability? How often do you see use using a 3-4 scheme? What are your predictions about the starters or does it really matter because we will have a good rotation? Inquiring minds want to know…
Jimbo
May 16th, 2009
11:59 am
D3 – I hope it’s not too late to get in on the divisional predictions. If not, I wanted to submit my predictions:
2009 Bird-Cage Division/Team Analysis & Final Standings Competition
Weekly Division: AFC West
Today’s Team: Denver Broncos
Bronco’s 2009 Schedule
1 Sep 13 DEN @ CIN – W
2 Sep 20 CLE @ DEN – L
3 Sep 27 DEN @ OAK – W
4 Oct 04 DAL @ DEN – L
5 Oct 11 NE @ DEN – L
6 Oct 19 DEN @ SD – L
7 Bye
8 Nov 01 DEN @ BAL – L
9 Nov 09 PIT @ DEN – L
10 Nov 15 DEN @ WAS – W
11 Nov 22 SD @ DEN – L
12 Nov 26 NYG @ DEN – L
13 Dec 06 DEN @ KC – W
14 Dec 13 DEN @ IND – L
15 Dec 20 OAK @ DEN – W
16 Dec 27 DEN @ PHI – L
17 Jan 03 KC @ DEN – L
Broncos 5-11
jason
May 16th, 2009
12:12 pm
Jimbo, sorry I had a long post for you to read on my opinion of the DL, and OLB in different formations. The 4-3, 3-4, and Nickel. Damn blog monster, lost all of it. Bear with me and I will repost.
jason
May 16th, 2009
12:19 pm
Jimbo, in regards to your question on the DL. The DL was in a little better shape to begin last year. Yes while ATL cut half their D, there was some foundation pieces leftover. First let’s take alook at the 4-3. The base Defense. RE) Abraham DT) Babineaux NT) Lewis LE) Anderson.
OLB) Nicolas MLB) Lofton OLB)Peterson. With the base 4-3 you have the ability to play great run defense. Rotation with good players offsets fatigue. It also allows younger p;ayers to gaet expirence. Lets look at the second team. RE) Biermann DT) Andersaon NT) Jerry LE) Davis. OLB) Wire MLB) Peterson OLB) Gilbert/ Biermann/ Sidbury.
jason
May 16th, 2009
12:25 pm
Jimbo, posting each formation seperately. The 3-4 allows for many,mant possibilities regarding scheme and player personell. Take a look at the base 3-4. RE)Abraham NT)Lewis LE)Anderson olb) Nicolas ILB) Lofton ILB) Peterson OLB) Wire. If you look at personel, you could place Biermann at OLB for Nicolas. Anderson could play the NT for Lewis and Davis slides in the end.
jason
May 16th, 2009
12:33 pm
The fun is in the nickel package. You can line OLBs at end. You could put ends at OLB. Depends on coverage like Zone Blitz, man cover, tampa two,or all out blitz. In the end, Players will be rotated. The ends, I see at least 5 in a sound rotation. The DTs 4, and I’ll say 5 with Anderson playing all along the line. LB, I see 5 right now. If they rotate the young ends to OLB in the 3-4 I see 7 with Biermann and Sidbury. This Defense is really young. The rotation to keep players fresh will be vital. You learn more when you are fresh. Mental lapses are the first sign of fatigue. The young players will also gain alot of expirence.
jason
May 16th, 2009
12:34 pm
Jimbo, sorry if it is a little confusing. The blog monster ate my inital post. I tried to go back, but Ilost the whole point of my post. Now, I am mentally exhausted. I will go have a beer now, and refresh.
Dean 21
May 16th, 2009
1:16 pm
Sarah B. I’m sure you can map out the details to coordinate such a meeting. It would be awesome to have all the Cagers hook up at the Branch to watch our birds get ready for the season.
jason
May 16th, 2009
1:31 pm
Sarah B, I think you sent that crappy weather my way, San Antonio…
Sarah B
May 16th, 2009
2:08 pm
Jason – pouring down rain here all weekend. At least this was my Saturday to work. Actually, I traded with a guy so he could go to the lake and so I could have a four day weekend next week. Laughs are on him.
Jimbo
May 16th, 2009
3:10 pm
Jason,Excellent posts. I guess what I am trying to get a feel for is where do the folks in the Bird Cage feel we are with the DL. I think that we have improved the DL greatly with the addition of Lewis and I see him being a starter this year, maybe not week 1 but definitely this year.
I think with the pressure and inside push he will give us, we’ll be seeing the turnover ration increasing and once we get the lead just pound away with Turner and control the clock. Man, I’m excited, September can’t get here fast enough.
Sarah B
May 16th, 2009
3:29 pm
Jimbo – we love the 1st draft pick Jerry! Run the ball – Stop the run!
D3
May 16th, 2009
3:42 pm
Great Saturday Afternoon Bird-Cage Bro’s and Sis’s! Wow, stayed up LATE last night with my little bugger. It’s amazing how they’ll sleep when they’re being held, but the mili-second they’re put in the crib……AWAKE!!! Anyway, back to the blog. Weekend’s seem to be hit or miss. The draft weekend obviously torched it out, but random down weekends such as this are probably a little slower. To Falcons & Football………
Dean21 – great posts my brother. I know, a serious accomplishment of making it to a Page 6, maybe page 7 before the weekend’s out. I’m all for meeting up at the ‘Branch sometimes during Training Camp. I wanted desperately to make it up there for the mini-camp, but couldn’t make it. I’m curious to see exactly who all lives in the Metro ATL. I know me, I’m assuming you, Sarah B, Lil’ Dave, and maybe JJ? Not really sure because I know many of our brethren are scattered throughout the country AND the globe. Thanks for the props brother. I just enjoy the ‘Cage so much that I just try to get creative on keeping the Mojo going here in the ‘Cage.
Cutter & Jimbo – I definitely concur with row3 in thanking you for the Football news updates. DOL’s usually in the ball, but I think he’s drinking a Daquiri on the beach of St.Thomas.
jason – what’s up my brother from the Southewest(is that correct)? Yeah, I’m really looking forward to our DEF this year. Last year it was our OFF, but this year our DEF will be heavily underrated through the Football Media, opponents, etc. We’ve lost “experience” through FA, but experience sure as the H— didn’t help us in the playoffs when Big Grady got doubled out of the building, Milloy got torched TWICE, and Brooking’s infamous play. Younger, faster, stronger, hungrier. Overall a more fierce DEF can be expected. You’ve been lucky as all get out: red & black all the way from high school, college, and pro’s…nice.
Unca’ Bob – love the food-bag expression. Classic.
Mike – glad to have you in the ‘Cage brother. Lofton was a fairly overlooked stud, because MLB’s usually don’t get the stats that OLB do. He was rock-solid from Day 1. We are set at CB with Houston, C.Jackson, C.Owens, V.Hutchins, B.Grimes, & W.Middleton. I bet that we carry 6 CB’s this year and only 4 safeties. Last year we carried 5 safeties and 5 CB’s. The Moore/DeCoud battle for SS looks to be the most fierce of August. At CB, Von Hutchins is the X-Factor. Houston is all but a lock at a starting spot. Based on his performance in the nickel as a rookie, I would put my money on Chevis Jackson taking the other spot. Chris Owens having that much upside and hearing TD rave about him, methinks he takes the nickel, leaving Hutchins as the 4th option. We’ll see.
row3 – whew, hate the hangover for you brother. I was there at about 5 AM, think I had a one few too many brewski’s last night. Hey, its saturday, and the best thing about working on sat., is coming home and chilling the F— out when you get to the house.
Jimbo – great point on our OL. I forgot about us signing Will Svitek who started for the Chiefs and Brett Romberg who started for the Rams. If we carry 9 OL again, look for the following: Sam Baker, Justin Blaylock, Todd McClure, Harvey Dahl, Tyson Clabo, Brett Romberg, Will Sviteck, Garret Reynolds, & there will be a serious fight for the final spot spot between Quinn Ojinnaka, Renardo Foster, Alex Stepanovich, and Ben Wilkerson. Offensive Line finally looks to have some quality and depth. Sure, just post the rest of the AFC West whenever you get a chance.
Great convo’s here on the weekend, even if its just a few of us kicking it around. Hey, its not about quantity, but about quality. Mucho, mucho more to come later.
Dean 21
May 16th, 2009
4:07 pm
D3, Man, I’ve been there on getting the lil bambino to sleep! lol
It’s a task that becomes a skill and once you master it, you will be able to blog all night, not that you would want to…
I figured you will have plenty of time to practice. I’m actually from Atl, but grew up in Cali also..now I live in the burbs, but work in Buckhead, so i’ve experienced it during my times of living in the city.
D3, how does the schedule look for next week? I know we have a lot to discuss, just need to get my mind ready! By the way, like Sarah B. stated, we can choose a day with the majority in mind and hit the “Branch” with Bird Cage Fever! We will have our on little section at the “Branch”. I’m about 45 minutes outside of the Atl and I have not seem a drop of rain at the moment, although I’m sure it will come soon enough. What topics can we address this weekend? I would like an update on our injured players returning this year, obviously this will play an important roll on who makes our 53 man roster!
jason
May 16th, 2009
4:08 pm
Jimbo, Like someone said earlier(Iforget who)in the week. You are going to see alot more turnovers this year. Mainly ints. With the pressure by the DTs, and Abraham alot of passes will be coming out quick. Lots of oppurtunities tgere for the picking. Trey Lewis is like FA pick up in that he didn’t play at all last year in Coch Smitty’s Defense. We drafted Jerry, and Walker, And basiclly added Lewis to go along with Babineaux.
Dean 21
May 16th, 2009
4:09 pm
Sarah B., I’d say you will win if there is no rain during your 4 day weekend. I’m taking a few days off myself heading into the holiday weekend.
Dean 21
May 16th, 2009
4:11 pm
Jason, what’s up man? You mentioned the 3-4 in an earlier post, or I thought you did..Do you really think we are going to introduce a 3-4 package this season? If so, what LB’s do you think will be on the field?
jason
May 16th, 2009
4:17 pm
D3, hey what you said about carrying 6 CBs/ $ safties makes sense if you an others are right about DcCoud being able to play both well. Moore the starter with Coleman. DcCoud backing up both positions. CB is going to be interesting. I think at this point Competition is wide open. I don’t either starting position is penciled in. I think you work it like this.Houston and Hutcins as starters. Grimes and Middleton backing them up. Then you Jackson and Owens in the nickel. I wouldn’t be susprised to see Owens land a starter’s spot based on TDs evaluationg of him. I think Jackson is firmly locked into the nickel. Physical CB wh can play the slot and fight through the traffic. I am worried about his lack of speed on the outside. If he starts , he will have to have Safety help over the top. Just a thought. Bird Cage keep the hits coming. I want to go page 7 before the evening is over.
Dean 21
May 16th, 2009
4:20 pm
Here’s a few topics….I would like to know who amongst the bird cagers are season ticket holders? Who has the insite scoop on the best seats in the dome and of course the best tail gating spots! I would also like to know who has a Ryan, White, Turner, Abe, etc jersey? Whose jersey do you think is getting the most sales today? (hey, just trying to make it through the weekend folks) during the little down time I have right now..lol
jason
May 16th, 2009
4:23 pm
nother post to the BLOG Monster. I’ll be back a little later….
Dean 21
May 16th, 2009
4:24 pm
Yeah, page 7 would be cool..I’m sure DOL will return soon and start a new blog…so I agree Jason, let’s keep the hits coming. You know I got a chance to talk a little bit with the corner backs during mini camp as I was getting my football signed..Chris Houston said he was ready, Chelvis Jackson stated he was ready, William Moore and Owens, man those dudes were in shape and look like a pair that will be very physical…I think our corners will surprise a few teams this year.
Dean 21
May 16th, 2009
4:27 pm
Each time I think the Blog Monster has taken a bite out of my post, I just hit the F5 key and kill it and just like magic, my post re-appears!
jason
May 16th, 2009
4:45 pm
Where was I ? Yeah, Dean 21, The 3-4. Yeah I think they will show it. The 4-3 will be the base defense. I think Coach Smitty will show the 3-4 to cause confusion and create mismatches for our boys. You asked about LBs. Lets just say Peterson and Lofton in the middle. Outside, it would depend on what you want to do. ATL has those 2 young kids that are like tweeners, Sidbury and Biermann. Then I wouldn’t be susprised to Abraham line up at OLB from time to time. Not a regular thing; just a New wrinkle. Nicolas and Wire depending on coverage, run stopping, or blitzing. I think the nickel package will be similar. These two formations offer unlimited options as far player personel groupings, schemes and such. The good thing is ATL has the players to do this.
Jimbo
May 16th, 2009
4:51 pm
Chargers Schedule
1 Sep 14 SD @ OAK – W
2 Sep 20 BAL @ SD – L
3 Sep 27 MIA @ SD – W
4 Oct 04 SD @ PIT – L
5 Bye
6 Oct 19 DEN @ SD – W
7 Oct 25 SD @ KC – W
8 Nov 01 OAK @ SD – W
9 Nov 08 SD @ NYG – L
10 Nov 15 PHI @ SD – W
11 Nov 22 SD @ DEN – L
12 Nov 29 KC @ SD – W
13 Dec 06 SD @ CLE – W
14 Dec 13 SD @ DAL – W
15 Dec 20 CIN @ SD – W
16 Dec 25 SD @ TEN – L
17 Jan 03 WAS @ SD – W
Sand Diego 11-5
row3
May 16th, 2009
4:52 pm
When I had to step away and try to get some work done, ya’ll were talking about the OL. I noticed the biggest improvement was at the guard position, J Blaylock really turned the corner in his sophmore season, he’s solid. H Dahl (Mr Nasty) might be one of this new staffs most overlooked pick-ups, seems like San Diego was trying to move him to their practice squad and we grabbed him off waivers, another example of TD finding talent where ever it becomes available. I also think Hamilton is one of best OL coaches in the NFL.
jason
May 16th, 2009
5:17 pm
row3, My thought is that the difference in making a NFL roster and the practice team is minute. I don’t think the question is about talent. I think it comes down to consistently performing, whether in practice or game time. I truly look at Dahl, and all the other FA OL ATL got off the Scrap heap. TD anmd Company took these guys and instilled a belief in not only what that group of OL could, but also the belief in what Coach Smitty and the OL coach could teach. That’s why ATL has one of the best OL in the NFL. I bet they are still the most underrated also.
By the way, Blalock didn’t turn a corner last year. He was already good enough to start. He just fell out of favor with the A$$ Hole Petrino.
jason
May 16th, 2009
6:22 pm
row3, I reread my post and thought I was being a little hard. I wasn’t saying anyhthing but the fact that I can’t stand Petrino. He set us back further than what Nora did. See, I liked Mora. He just wasn’t ready to be a Head Coach. Maybe he is now, who Knows. I felt like Blalock got a raw deal from what I read. Blalock is and will be a first rate powewr blocker at gaurd. Whether run or Pass.
This might be the first time in Falcon histoey that we have a Player personel as GM. TD knows what to look for; whether offense or defense. I don’t think Atlanta has ever had that before. Atlanta always drafted or signed the wrong personel. We now have a GM that understands the concept of working with the HC as well as all coaches to get the best personel on the team, and on the field.
Ken Strickland
May 16th, 2009
7:10 pm
What’s up fellow Bird Cagers? As we already know, our DEF will determine how far we go next yr. So, I took a good look at what our coaches have to work with and I came up with some interesting results.
This will basically be our backup DEF unit.
DE’s KBiermann, CDavis
DT’s TLewis, VWalker or JJefferson
LB’s RJames, TGilbert, CWire
CB’s COwens, VHutchins or BGrimes
SS WMoore
FS AHarris
To be honest, in a lot of ways, this backup DEF unit looks better than last yrs starting DEF unit, especially at DT, SS and LDE. Four of these players, BGrimes, TLewis, VHutchins & CWire were, or have been starters, while 3, COwens, MMoore & TLewis could end up earning starting positions this yr. It looks like we’re replacing a lot of last yrs stop gap FA’s we signed last yr with draft picks and younger UDFA signees. It appears Smitty is going to have the type of players he wants to make his DEF go. He only needs is to get them some experience and develop some chemistry, and we saw last yr how quickly our coaching staff can make that happen.
row3
May 16th, 2009
7:20 pm
jason, Thanks for the re-post, I really think our guard position is a rock-solid part of our OL for years to come.
Agree 100% on that chicken$#@* Petrino
row3
May 16th, 2009
7:38 pm
Ken Strickland, I like the statement about the backup Defense looking better than last years staters. Do you have us carrying Middleton as another CB.
jason
May 16th, 2009
8:02 pm
Ken, good to see you on tonight. I agree 100% of what you wrote. knowing that TD drafted not only talented players, but also intelligent players. The second team to the starters will be interchangable by the end of this season.
row3, the topic of interest for me is the OL. Beacuse, of what was reported at the beginning of last season. The whole , ATL has the worst Ol in the NFL. That just goes to show you just how good the overall coaching is now, and also the willingness of players working their collective a$$e$ off to get better for the benefit of the team. That’s what so special. We have a TEAM to root for now. Not a bunch of individual players.
D3
May 16th, 2009
8:52 pm
Great P.M. Ladies and Gents! Weekend has a way of zooming by, eh? Well, we got us a ton to talk about in the coming months even though there’s a huge football drought in the summer. To Falcons and Football….
2009 Division/Team Analysis & Final Standings Competition
D3
Broncos: 6-10
Chargers: 11-5
Chiefs: 5-11
Raiders: 4-12
Sarah B
Broncos: 6-10
Chargers: 13-3
Chiefs: 4-12
Raiders: 4-12
Jason
Broncos: 8-8
Chargers: 12-4
Chiefs: 4-12
Raiders: 3-13
WR
Broncos: 5-11
Chargers: 10-6
Chiefs: 4-12
Raiders: 6-10
Unca’ Bob
Broncos: 5-11
Chargers: 11-5
Chiefs: 4-12
JohnWaynesWorld
Broncos: 8-8
Chargers: 10-6
Chiefs: 4-12
Raiders: 1-15
Ed
Broncos: 5-11
Chargers: 13-3
Chiefs: 4-12
Raiders: 4-12
JJ
Broncos: 2-14
Chargers: 12-4
Chiefs: 5-11
Raiders: 5-11
Dean21
Broncos: 7-9
Chargers: 10-6
Chiefs: 3-13
Raiders: 4-12
Jimbo
Broncos: 4-12
Chargers: 11-5
Let me know of any errors or changes needed.
Next Week’s Division: AFC North
Monday: Bengals
Tuesday: Browns
Wednesday: Ravens
Thursday: Steelers
Roster Spot Analysis
1 Monday 18-May QB 1
2 Tuesday 19-May QB 2
3 Wednesday 20-May QB 3
4 Thursday 21-May RB 1
5 Friday 22-May RB 2
We can analyze the following:
-a review from last year’s performance
-areas of strength/areas to improve
-likely role/outlook for 2009
-what needs to happen for this player to be successful
-anything else
Do we want to analyze Falcons opponents week-by-week, because we’re not seeing a whole lot of Atlanta-Miami analysis. Thoughts?
More to come later……….
Unca' Bob
May 16th, 2009
9:04 pm
Ken Strickland,
Inciteful as always. I’ve read over your backup DEF and I’m going on an assumption with E Coleman and T DeCoud being the starters. With W Moore and A Harris as backup, where does that leave D Irons and J Fudge?
Unca' Bob
May 16th, 2009
9:16 pm
D3,
I posted my Raider picks 15 May at 7:31 AM. I have them going 4-12.
jason
May 16th, 2009
10:10 pm
I looked at ATL’s depth chart.On defense, ATL looks good. Just a little inexpirenced. Definitely faster.
DE)Abraham DT) Babineaux NT) Lewis DE)Anderson
Biermann Jefferson Jerry Davis
Sidbury Anderson Walker Sidbury
OLB)Nicolas MLB)Lofton OLB)Peterson
Wire Peterson James
Biermann Gilbert Bobino
CB)Owens FS) Moore SS) Coleman CB)Houston
Hutchins DcCoud DcCoud Grimes
Middleton Harris Fudge Jackson
I have Jackson as my Nickel back. I like Jackson, but am concerned about his speed. Jackson is a ball mgnet though. Also, I like him in the nickel because he is a physical CB. He has enough strength to fight through traffic in the middle of the field, and stay with his man.
Big Ray
May 16th, 2009
11:29 pm
“I have Jackson as my Nickel back. I like Jackson, but am concerned about his speed. Jackson is a ball mgnet though. Also, I like him in the nickel because he is a physical CB. He has enough strength to fight through traffic in the middle of the field, and stay with his man.”
Co-sign that. I see Jackson as the Nickel back, too.
Ken Strickland
May 16th, 2009
11:43 pm
UNCA BOB-it’s hard to say where it leaves them considering the influx of talent we got at their positions this yr. The fact that last yrs backup CB RPrude and FS MPaschal were cut recently tells me CB’s CHouston, VHutchins, BGrimes, COwens and CJackson and FS/SS’s EColeman, WMoore, AHarris and JFudge are locks, barring a trade. With the talent and competition we’re going to have in camp this season, even our practice squad will be talented.
ROW3-Whether CB Middleton makes the team is up to him. If he does he’ll certainly earn it because there will be some serious competition at CB.
JASON-having a poor OL isn’t always indicative of the talent of the individual players on that OL and that was true of the Atlanta Falcons OL. When the comment about our OL being one of the worst was made, it was true. Under RPetrino, our OLinemen had to go from JMora’s cut blocking system, which relied on finesse, speed, quickness, agility and lighter weight, to a power drive blocking system that required size and brute strength, which requires completely opposite attributes and abilities. A transition of that magnitude would have made any teams OL perform poorly. The OFF system used by Smitty was QB and OL friendly. In fact, the last Falcons HC that even tried to use play action, especially as effectively and consistently as Smitty, was Dan Reeves. Play action forces the entire DEF to read run before it reacts to the pass, and that gives the OL the chance to get set, or get into the defenders before they can react. Also, it’s a whole lot harder blocking to get a fast 185lb RB past the line of scrimmage than a bigger, stronger 235lb RB that’s just as fast. Having a competent passing OFF, and a QB that’s a legitimate passing threat, makes it much easier on the OL as well.
Last yr, there was virtually no competition for the startig DT, CB, SS, OLB, or DE positions. This yr, their are openings at SS, DT, CB, SS and OLB and each position will have to be earned through fearce competition. Since Smitty and TD took over, they’ve parted ways with former Probowl OLB(KBrooking), SS(LMalloy), DT(RColeman) and CB(DHall), along with OLB MBoley, FS CCrocker and DT GJackson. This might be the yr we benefit from the DEF roster turnover.
jason
May 17th, 2009
12:38 am
Ken Strickland, Great anaylis as always. You are the man. Not saying that ATL’s not good. They function well as a group; a unit. I was wondering if it was scheme. Living here in Texas I only got to see them play like twice last year. I relied on the web, high lights, and articles. Hand selected group of guys placed in a system to best take advantage of their talents to have success. That doesn’t sound like TD and Smitty,does it.lol.. Take care and enjoy. I will check back in in the mornning. Good night.
D3
May 17th, 2009
5:48 am
Great Early Sunday A.M. Bird-Cage Boys & Gals! Love the conversations we’re rockin’ here on the weekend. The ‘Cage is alive, healthy, and on FIRE! Love it. What a great hobby: talkin’ intelligent Football with cool fans while practicing our typing skills. That was a great excuse I gave the House CEO when in the ‘Cage. The CEO has her Facebook, and I have mine: THE BIRD-CAGE! On to our Falconi’s………..
Dean21 – you are the absolute MAN! You have finally figured out the mystery of slaying the blog monster. The F5 key works like a charm. Nice. I used to refresh and it would become all jacked up.
jason – what’s up G-money? Great analysis on the 3-4. We showed a few looks similar to that last year, and Stephen Nicholas would put his hand down as an End, move J.Anderson inside to NT, Abe on the other End. The drafting of El Sid(actual former Spanish military leader, saw it on a documentary the other day) gives us a huge amount of flexibility. We now have a ton of options at OLB/DE. I went back and read a scouting report on Biermann after we drafted him. He was projected as an OLB coming out, but had a d@— fine rookie year as backup DE. I could definitely see using both Biermann and El Sid as OLB’s in a 3-4. I think I’m the only one, but I still believe that El Sid could make a transition to SAM OLB. He’s 6-2, 266, and runs under a 4.6 (Terrell Suggs – 6′3, 260). Obviously, he would have to learn pass drops and have to come out on passing downs, but don’t discount it totally. My bet for 3-4: OLB-Stephen Nicholas & El Sid, ILB’s-Curtis Lofton & Mike Peterson.
row3 – exactly right on our line coaches: Hamilton(DEF) & Boudreau(OFF), particularly Boudreau. We were expected to have the worst OL in all of football, and had the leagues second leading rusher with fairly unheard of’s, especially Dahl.
Ken Strick – where you been brother? Great to have you and you’re awesome analysis back in the ‘Cage. Good look at our backup defense and how it might shape up. What do we do with Lawrence Sidbury? You know he’ll probably make the team. I’m really intrigued by Von Hutchins this year. His contract was 4 years for $9 million, which is fairly cheap due to CB standards, but hasn’t stepped on the field since he’s been signed. You give A.Harris the nod over J.Fudge?
Unca’ Bob – I had your Raiders picks, just forgot to put them on there. Sorry about that. I believe lack of sleep finally whipped my last night.
Big Ray – what’s happenin’ brother? Took a peek over at your Hawks Hack and you rocked it out strong. Isn’t it interesting that the Falcons is the only team without a fan blog? I thought I had a lead on getting us one, and haven’t heard back since. Oh well.
jason & Big Ray – gotta depart with you on Chevis Jackson my friends. The knock of speed has always been labeled on him, but he’s proved everybody he belongs throughout his career starting every game for LSU in the SEC. What he lacks in speed, he makes up for in strength and awareness. I’m thinking that Jackson gets a strong look to win the CB job opposite Houston, allowing C.Owens the chance to work his way in gradually into NFL speed, similar to how Jackson did last year.
Cornerbacks/Safeties – looking at the 53-man active roster from last year we carried 10 Defensive Backs: 5 CB’s & 5 Safties. I’m thinking that we carry 4 safeties and 6 CB’s this year. We could say with almost certainty that Houston, Jackson, & Owens are pretty sure things to make it. That leaves Grimes, Irons, Hutchins, & Middleton to battle for 3, but maybe even two spots. Grimes is a pretty sure thing since he started half the season last year. Hutchins has potential, but is injury prone. I’m really intrigued about Middleton. TD’s 5th round pick last year, Kroy Biermann, not only made the team but contributed heavily last year. Granted we’re in a much better spot this year talent-wise, but we know TD can mine gems late.
Great stuff gentlemen. Keep it going strong and I’ll check in later. H—, I woke up excited this morning thinking it was Monday so I could delve into the AFC North, Falcon Talk, and Roster Spot Analysis.
jason
May 17th, 2009
6:35 am
D3, good morning sir. You may be right about Jackson. Hope so, As a UGA homer, I am also a SEC homer. They play the best collage ball against the best competition. And doesn’t hurt that he had a good year last year. I have a question on our DBs; CBs more importantly. Who all were on ATL’s roster prior to TD and Smityy coming to ATL? The reason I ask is that we all know that when a new GM/ coach comes in ; they want personel that fits their plan; their system. When you talk about Middleton; that’s why I believe he has a shot at making the team. I think alot of players will be fazed out that were not part of TDs/ Smitty’s Draft or FA signings. Unless of course you really show out and make them have to keep you.
Jimbo
May 17th, 2009
8:05 am
2009 Kansas City Chiefs Schedule
1 Sep 13 KC @ BAL – L
2 Sep 20 OAK @ KC – L
3 Sep 27 KC @ PHI – L
4 Oct 04 NYG @ KC – L
5 Oct 11 DAL @ KC – W
6 Oct 18 KC @ WAS – W
7 Oct 25 SD @ KC – L
8 Bye
9 Nov 08 KC @ JAC – L
10 Nov 15 KC @ OAK – W
11 Nov 22 PIT @ KC – W
12 Nov 29 KC @ SD – L
13 Dec 06 DEN @ KC – L
14 Dec 13 BUF @ KC – W
15 Dec 20 CLE @ KC – L
16 Dec 27 KC @ CIN – L
17 Jan 03 KC @ DEN – W
Chiefs 6 – 10
D3
May 17th, 2009
8:10 am
jason – great morning to you j-man! Very interesting to watch and witness the Defensive Backfield battle this year. Looks like Coleman and Houston are pretty good bets for locks, but besides that the other 8 positions are totally up in the air. Checked out our DB’s from the Dic-trino era. The only DB holdovers are Chris Houston, David Irons, Brent Grimes, and Antoine Harris. The following have gotten their walking papers:
-Lawyer Milloy
-Meangelo Hall
-Jimmy Williams
-Lewis Sanders
-Daren Stone
-Chris Crocker
TD & Co. got rid of these characters with common themes: attitude problems(Hall, Williams), injury-prone(Lewis Sanders), and generally ineffective(Daren Stone, Chris Crocker). I really happy to have Rich McKay still on board, but some of his moves still baffle the H— out of me. We traded for Chris Crocker for godsake. David Irons is on the bubble this year. His special teams play has probably gotten him by, but I don’t think it will this year.
BTW, we should never, never, never, ever draft another player from Virginia Tech (Meangelo Hall, Jimmy Williams, & the Obvious).
j-man and any other stats junkies in the ‘Cage: I’ve found the ultimate football stats website. Check it out if you please…..
http://www.pro-football-reference.com
jason
May 17th, 2009
9:11 am
D3, I think Harris is safe at safety. He has size, something Fudge is lacking. I don’t think Irons will make the cut. Middleton will beat him out. Irons is a good player, but he also has injury history. Houston will be a lock a CB. I think he will vastly improves this year. With a better all round D, getting pressure on th opposing QB. I just think the third year is a critical year for young players. By year three you either get it or you don’t. Grimes, I think is on the fence. I know that he is a popular player here in the cage. His size is definitely working against him. On the plus side is you can never underestimate heart and determination. With Grimes its going to come down to making plays consistently. That’s why I sorta agree with you about Jackson starting. Jackson and Owens are going to battle for starting CB oppisite Houston.Loser mans the Nickel. May the best player win. There is a reason TD drafted 3 DBs (2CBs). Neither he nor Coach Smitty were pleased with what they had. I look for the 3 Moore, Owens ,and Middleton to make the team. With those 3, you have Jackson, Houston, DcCoud, and Coleman. That’s 7 + Harris= * you have 2 spots left for Hutchins, Grimes, Irons,Sharpe, and Tiller. Let the competition begin.
Ken Strickland
May 17th, 2009
10:24 am
D3-What’s up my friend? I didn’t include LSidbury as a primary backup because KBiermann has a yr under his belt and Sid hasn’t shown his stuff yet. However, you can bet Sidbury will be used regularly as a pass rushing specialist in passing situations.
In FS CCrocker’s defense, he was more of a SS that was forced to function as a FS. He didn’t have the speed or the instincts to be an effective FS, but he would have been a far better SS than LMalloy. To be honest, I don’t think BPetrino even cared about the DEF side of the gm.
I think CB JWilliams’ size, speed and strength would have made him a better SS or FS than CB. He was a little short on technique as a CB, but that wouldn’t have been an issue at safety. It appears other teams have the same idea, which explains why he’s still in the league.
DHall was one of the best cover CB in the NFL. When our DEF coordinator under JMora decided to switch to his version of the cover 2 zone scheme, it reduced his effectiveness and he struggled. You might have gotten the same reaction and results if the same had been done to Dion Sanders. Man to man and Zone, especially the cover 2 zone, require entirely different skill sets. Last yr 3 teams decided to switch to the cover 2 zone scheme, which is why 3 of the NFL’s top cover CB’s were released or traded. It also had a negative effect on SS LMalloy and FS CCrocker, since neither had the skills to be cover 2 safeties.
It doesn’t matter how quick, fast or talented a player is, if he’s not placed in a system that allows him to take full advantage of his talents, he’ll look average and become frustrated. Wouldn’t you have the same reaction in the same situation? Our OL is a great example of that.
Look at the difference in RB WDunn’s career with Tampa Bay and the Falcons. Tampa Bay used a power rushing attack that featured FB Alscot and focused on running between the tackles. That wasn’t a good system for a 185lb RB like WDunn, so he was limited to being a situational RB. With the Falcons, he was used in a system that took full advantage of his speed, quickness, ability to read blocks and cutback. As a result, he excelled and become a Probowl RB.
Once upon a time a QB was taken as a top draft pick. He was eventually criticized by fans and the media for making bad decisions, being inaccurate and overthrowing WR’s because his arm was too strong and he had no touch. He was also criticized for being one dimensional and running too much instead of staying in the pocket. CAN ANY OF YOU GUESS WHO THAT QB WAS?
WELL, IT WASN’T WHO SOME OF YOU ARE THINKING. IT WAS HOF 49ER QB STEVE YOUNG, BEFORE HE WAS TRADED FROM TAMPA BAY TO THE 49ER’S. The same holds true for another former Tampa Bay QB, Doug Williams, who flurished with the Redskins and won a SB while setting a Superbowl passing record. One system supressed the players talents while another system took full advantage of it.
jason
May 17th, 2009
10:46 am
Ken, where would we all be without your insight and football wisdom? Excellent post, but you are known for that. I agree with it all. That other QB you knew we were thinking about… Similar set of circumstances. He just didn’t show the maturity to pesevere. The lines on the OL are acurate.also. The reply you sent me this morning said it all. Every player that’s in the NFL is there because they can play. They all need 3 things. 1) Talent 2) Oppurtunity 3) A system to let the other 2 needs Flourish.
jason
May 17th, 2009
10:48 am
Hey guys, lets pick it up here in the Cage. We need 600 posta, and we are still on page 6. Lets get the Bird Cage rockin!!!
Jimbo
May 17th, 2009
10:53 am
Found this link on John Abraham:
http://www.profootballweekly.com/PFW/NFL/NFC/NFC+South/Atlanta/WWHI/2009/wwhi051509.htm
I know I’ve seen the specualtion over Mr. Abraham and this certainly doesn’t answer any questions, however, I remember the team not releasing any information a few years ago about Crumpler’s off-season surgeries and it turned out that he had indeed had some procedures done on his knee.
jason
May 17th, 2009
11:04 am
Jimbo, interesting article. My thoughts on Abraham are that he is the Defensive player ATL has. Most important also. He makes the rest of the front seven better. He even has an effect on the DBs too. My concerns are that Abraham is not durable. He is injury prone, and 10 years in the league, he is not getting younger. The injuries he may have in the future will take even longer to heal. Kroy Biermann was drafted last yeat and did a stellar job backing Abe up. In come Sidbury, whom I think will be developed to take Abe’s place as the signatyre sack specialist in the near future. Near I mean, as soon as next season. More than likely though it will be 2011.
jason
May 17th, 2009
11:07 am
Also, do not underestimate the great job of Smitty’s abilty to substitute for Abe. Therefore getting the most production out of Abe, and keeping hime fresh and at a low risk to injury.
D3
May 17th, 2009
11:12 am
jason – you’re right on j-man. I know we have a lot of our peeps here in the ‘Cage that like to hate on Houston, but I thought he had a lot better year last year and will only get better. Many like to point to the times he got burnt, which is understandable to an extent. However, most CB’s in the league get torched a time or two. Also, we found out first hand what a liability Milloy was in pass coverage in the Arizona game; BVG just disguised it better throughout the year. I agree totally on Middleton. To most GM’s that’s kind of a throw-away pick, but to TD that might as well be a 3rd rounder. His 5th rounder last year, Kroy Biermann, made the team and contributed heavily as a rookie. Grimes is a tough player and works his tail off, but I think he’s better suited as a quarter back, than a starting CB or Nickel. It’s amazing how much our secondary will have improved in a matter of a couple years.
77 DAYS AND COUNTING TO 2009 ATLANTA FALCONS TRAINING CAMP…………
D3
May 17th, 2009
11:12 am
PAGE 7……….WE HAVE ARRIVED BIRD-CAGE BRETHREN!!!!!!!
D3
May 17th, 2009
11:21 am
Taking the Nephews to their first Braves game today, so gotta run for now, but I’ll be back later with some good stuff.
Ken Strick – I agree with you 99% of the time, but I gotta depart from your defense of MeHall. Very true that his skills were some of the absolute best of any cover corner in the NFL, but he has one of the worst attitudes in the League and there are absolutely no excuses or anyone to blame but himself. I understand the system may have changed, head coaches may have changes, but he gets paid millions of dollars to adjust. He is one of the most talented CB’s in the league, but also possesses the worst attitude as well. Give me Brent Grimes any day of the week over MeAngelo Hall. JMHO.
Later bro’s……..
jason
May 17th, 2009
12:34 pm
I think it takes at least 3 years before you know what you have in a typical NFL player. Doesn’t matter the position. As good as Matty Ice did last year…Lets say he struggles this year. Could happen, NFL teams are known to adjust. If he does struggle( hope not)it will say alot about his mental makeup by what he does in year 3. Adversity only makes you better as a player if you put in the hard work to improve yourself. You do this in the most part by studying film. Not just what your opponets are doing, but what you are doing. How you are positioned, what you are reading. That’s why I think this is a critical year for a few players. I just reviewed ATLs roster and there are alot of key contributors going into their 3rd year. This season is going to be critical in the process of the Atlanta Falcons. OL) Blalock, Dahl, Foster, Ojinaka.QB) Shockley( need to show this year) RB)Snelling On defense you have DL) Anderson, and Lewis( has to prove the ability to sta healthy. The rest will take care of itself) LB) Nicolas( he has sat and learned, now its showtime) DBs) Houston, Irons, Harris. Irons, has to show more that ST. He also has to prove he can stay healthy. Final point on the two Razorbacks Houston and Anderson. Noone can deny the talent. We are all waiting on the execution, and the production. You are going to be in for a ride this year. These two know they are playing for their jobs. They both are ready to bust out. Remember year three, it starts to sink in. How much they have to work, how much they have retained from the previous two years.
It also helps that this is the second year in the Smitty system, and that is going to go a long way in what each of these individuals accomplish as a team. I think this group that I have mentioned is in sense the core of the team, along with Ryan and Lofton.
JJ
May 17th, 2009
12:50 pm
WEEK 1 PREVIEW: MIA VS. ATL
2008 Stats:
MIA Offense: Rush – 11 Pass – 10
ATL Offense: Rush – 2 Pass – 14
MIA Defense: Rush – 10 Pass – 25
ATL Defense: Rush – 25 Pass – 21
Common Opponents:
MIA: vs ARI (10-31) L DIFF: -21
vs SD (17-10) W DIFF: +7
vs DEN (26-17) W DIFF: +11
vs OAK (17-15) W DIFF: +2
vs KC (38-31) W DIFF: +7
————
4-1 DIFF: +6
ATL: vs KC (38-14) W DIFF: +24
vs OAK (24-0) W DIFF: +24
vs DEN (20-24) L DIFF: -4
vs SD (22-16) W DIFF: +6
vs ARI (24-30) L DIFF: -6
—————
3-2 DIFF: +44
FA: MIA- Jason Taylor LB
ATL- Tony Gonzalez TE
DRAFT: MIA- 2 CB, 1 QB, 1 WR
ATL- DT, S, CB, DE
Observation:
Miami is similar to Atlanta in that they surprised allot of people last yr. They both have good offenses and average defenses. The stat from 2008 that jumps out is MIA defense against the rush: 10th. They just resigned Taylor so that should improve or stay around 10th. They drafted 2 CB, but how good are rookie CB? I think they’ll be good against the run but shaky against the pass again this yr. On offense – all I see is they added to their wildcat bs!
Atlanta, on the other hand, has greatly improved their offense with Tony and their defense with a healthy Lewis, Jerry, Peterson and one of our draft picks in the secondary. I beleive we would have beaten them straight up last yr, although a tough game. Chad can have explosive games but come on – we have matty. Their offense is relatively unchanged and their defense still middle of the league.
As it is the first game at home, with Barry singing his anthem and the bird cage’brothers/sis screaming “THOU SHALT NOT RUN”, I predict a blow-out like last yr.’s first home game!
ATL 35 MIA 14
Welcome to ATL Tony G.- 3 TD day!
Ken Strickland
May 17th, 2009
1:41 pm
JASON-KBiermann was actually a LB in college and Sidbury was a DE. So, he has more experience rushing the passer as a down lineman. Actually, LB’s MBoley and SNicholas were used as down linemen to rush the passer. This yr, our DEF will be able to rush the passer without using LB’s as DE’s and a lot of gimmicks.
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, DT has been our main DEF weakness over the last few yrs. However, with the addition of DT’s PJerry, VWalker and the return of TLewis, DT could end up being our major strength. The same can be said for SS, OLB and LDE. It’s going to be difficult for the Falcons DEF not to be good. The only question is, HOW GOOD WILL THEY BE?
MAN, I’M ABOUT TO WET MY PANTS THINKING ABOUT THE POTENTIAL OF THIS YRS FALCONS. I DON’T EVEN WANT TO THINK ABOUT HOW MUCH MORE EXCITED I’LL BE WHEN TRAINING CAMP OFFICIALLY STARTS. How many teams can boast that 4(WR RWhite, TE TGonzalez, QB MRyan & RB MTurner) of their 6 off skill position players(HB, FB, TE, WR, FL & QB) played in last yrs Probowl?
jason
May 17th, 2009
2:54 pm
Ken Strickland, I think Biermann was a DE in Collage. Never the less I see what you are saying about not needing gimmicks. I was actually think about all the possibilities Atlanta could do with the diversity of the personel. They have alot of pieces that can do multple things. Whether they do or not,I don’y know. But it sure is fun to think about. Man, I am with you waiting on the preseason so I can get a look for myself at the talent of this years team. You are so right about the offense and the ProBowl talent level. I think the Defense will be underrated and flying below the radr. The Defense will be the key to a successful Atlanta Falcon Season. We know what the Offense is capable of. The question marks on defenses and just how good can they be?
Jimbo
May 17th, 2009
4:03 pm
Preach it Ovie . . .
http://www.yardbarker.com/nfl/articles/Shout_out_to_my_NFL_homies/629211
Is there really any question? Sometimes these blog sites just need to create controversy . . . You be the judge.
Jimbo
May 17th, 2009
4:12 pm
2009 Oakland Raiders
1 Sep 14 SD @ OAK – L
2 Sep 20 OAK @ KC – W
3 Sep 27 DEN @ OAK – L
4 Oct 04 OAK @ HOU – L
5 Oct 11 OAK @ NYG – L
6 Oct 18 PHI @ OAK – L
7 Oct 25 NYJ @ OAK – W
8 Nov 01 OAK @ SD – L
9 Bye
10 Nov 15 KC @ OAK – L
11 Nov 22 CIN @ OAK – W
12 Nov 26 OAK @ DAL – L
13 Dec 06 OAK @ PIT – L
14 Dec 13 WAS @ OAK – W
15 Dec 20 OAK @ DEN – L
16 Dec 27 OAK @ CLE – L
17 Jan 03 BAL @ OAK – L
4-12
Jimbo
May 17th, 2009
4:14 pm
http://www.yardbarker.com/nfl/articles/Shout_out_to_my_NFL_homies/629211
Check out Ovie’s comments. Looks like this blog site is trying to start a controversy.
Ken Strickland
May 17th, 2009
4:21 pm
D3-I wasn’t trying to justify DHall’s attitude, just offering an explination for it, or at least some of it. I believe he should have found a way to deal with the issue instead of allowing it to consume him and derail what could have been a potential HOF career.
JASON-you might be correct. At any rate, thanks for the correction.
Earlier in the blog someone asked me about CB Middleton. Later I stated wondering why that person singled him out. After thinking about it for a while, I did some digging on him. It appears the biggest knock on him is his height. He has the speed and quickness to play CB at the pro level. However, the player that blew me away was DT Vance Walker. I’d seen several comments about him being a steal in the 7th rd, but I didn’t realize how much of a steal. This guy was an All-American in 07 and made 3nd team All-American in 08 despite having a down yr after suffering a concusion and other injuries. Man, the DT position is looking better and better for the Falcons. I’m starting to like our DEF’s potential more and more as I find out more and more.
jason
May 17th, 2009
4:53 pm
Question, Does Atlanta’s defense line run DT and a NT? Or, the DTs interchangable? I don’t know much about the DTs. All I know is that they are space eaters to free up the LBs? You know like one DT is a gap shooter, and one a space eater. if you look at the DTs like that who would start at each, and how do youe set the rotation.
For example, in premature depth chart I have DT) Babineaux followed by Jerry, and Anderson(plays all along the DL). At NT, I have Lewis(if Healthy), Walker, and Jefferson. Just an example, don’t hold me to it.
jason
May 17th, 2009
4:54 pm
Oh yeah, right now I am counting just 5 DTs, because Jamaal Anderson can play the whole DL.
Shamus Thacker
May 17th, 2009
5:06 pm
About every ten years it occurs to me that Tommy Nobis is not in the HOF. Pizzes me off every time…
I’m so blitzed that I can’t remember who does the voting on the NFL version. Is there some kinda selection committee, is it sportswriters? Either way, somebody’s overlooking a worthy party.
jason
May 17th, 2009
5:11 pm
I have some good news to share with you. I know this is off topic. But I had a visit today from a director with the Make A Wish foundation. My son who has multiple Special Needs was just approved for a wish. He gets to go to Walt Disney World this summer. We just have to coordinate the time. I thought I had him trained. You know for Team Captain for the DAWGS or the Falcons. But what can you do. It’s hard to compete with Disney when you have an 8 yr. old. I thought that was pretty cool. You know when someone wins something and they say”I never could have dreamt that this could happen to me.” That’s kind of how I feel, even though this gift is for my son. I never could have seen this coming. Anyway, I thought I would share this bit of good news with everybody on a beautiful Sunday afternoon.
jason
May 17th, 2009
5:13 pm
You know to be Team Captain for a DAWGS or the Falcons game.
JJ
May 17th, 2009
5:37 pm
Congrats to your son, Jason!
Jimbo
May 17th, 2009
5:48 pm
Here’s a thought provoking article.
http://www.cbssports.com/mcc/messages/chrono/15060241
apparently, the Falcons are $20M under the salary cap for the 2009 season. This could allow up to “sprinkle in” some free agents come June depending upon what we see from the folks in camp today. It’s nice to see that we have the extra flexibility to make some moves if needed. Also, might make keeping Redmon a little more palatable.
No matter how you slice it, it nice to give TD a few more tools in the ol’ toolbox.
falcon21
May 17th, 2009
5:53 pm
Jason, that is great news for your son and you. Who cares if it is off topic! Glad to see good things happening for your family. From a true Dawgs and Falcons fan to you and your family!!!
Jimbo
May 17th, 2009
6:01 pm
Ken, You mentioned that some of other people were knocking Middleton because of his height. One of my favorite players was Darrell Green. I realize that he was the exception rather than the rule. I’m just saying, he was 5′9″ and about 185, and also one of the all-timers at the position. What I like about all the guys they brought in for the secondary is that they were leaders on their respective teams. That tells me they have heart (and you can’t teach that) and know how to play the game. So, I’m not worried. Will there be occasions whre they will get beat because of their height, absolutely. Will they learn from it and be better prepared the next time, I think so.
Jimbo
May 17th, 2009
6:04 pm
Jason, That is awesoem news for your little guy. I’ll bet he can hardly contain himself. Congratulations, I hope y’all have a blast. This is one of those once in a lifetime deals. You must be excited.
jason
May 17th, 2009
6:05 pm
Thanks you guys. With the cap room 20 mil. Do you think we need to sign any FAs? Other than say locking up Redman, and Clabo. With Atlanta’s draft, is there a true need? I’m thinking anexpierenced CB with some size, but other than that I don’t know. I am happy with the team as it is now. Maybe if you can’t work the trade for MV, ATL could afford to cut him and absorb the hit. Although I’m not sure what the hit would be.
Unca' Bob
May 17th, 2009
6:20 pm
Dean21,
You are now the official “IT” geru for the Cagers’ blog. That “F5″ thing works much , much better than the refresh button. To paraphrase D3 you are the MAN!
jason,
San An Tone’. Got my first taste of Tex-Mex there in the early ’60’s. Spoiled me from everything I have eaten since. I’m like you , in that, where I live I see very few Falcon games. Twice a year when they play Carolina are my only sure things. This year the Falcons play in two prime-time games so I’m looking forward to the expanded exposure.
K Strick,
Words alone can NOT express the gratitude for what you have done for not only me, but for the other minds that want to know. I have learned a great deal, and for that, I am eternally grateful. My “process” continues.
D3,
What did the ‘phews think of their first “Crackers” game? With wide eyed wonder, loved it, no doubt. Good Man. If I recall, I saw an earlier post you made refernce to, “practicing our typing skills”. Heck,( I hope that does’t get filtered) in the time I’ve been reading this blog you have probably burned-up three keyboards and no longer have finger prints that even the FBI can identify. Thanx for keeping up with the day to day happenings on our blog. You da’ MAN, too.
falcon21
May 17th, 2009
6:22 pm
Jimbo, do you remember Bobby Butler? He was 5-9 and to me was one of the best DB’s or CB’s the Falcons ever had. I think Deon was the best but Tim Mac. was pretty good himself! Not sure how to spell T.Mac’s last name.
Unca' Bob
May 17th, 2009
6:36 pm
jason,
That is the best news I’ve read in a long, long time. ” When you wish upon a star…Best wishes.
Unca' Bob
May 17th, 2009
6:41 pm
falcon21,
# 23 on the roster. One more in a line of over achievers.
Sarah B
May 17th, 2009
6:57 pm
Hey guys, just checkin in first time I’ve turned on the laptop this weekend. What’s up?? I’m glad to srr somr more of you want to meet up at training camp. I’m game I live at Dhallofond and 85 in Dekalb County. I’m ready let’s go!!!
Sarah B
May 17th, 2009
6:59 pm
Wait that was hear.. and ShalloWford Rd = damn tiny laptop keys…
Sarah B
May 17th, 2009
7:05 pm
Jason – Faboulous news about your son I’m very glad something very good happened for him. I love a happy story. May his life be happy and long…
Jimbo
May 17th, 2009
7:06 pm
Falcon21, I got to Atlanta in ‘88 and really wasn’t much of a fan until about ‘91. By then he was on the downside of his career. I remember him giving the Eagles fits one game, I think in ‘85. Back then, I had some colorful adjectives to describe him, and since Sarah is in the Cage, I better not repeat them.
Sarah B
May 17th, 2009
7:10 pm
Jimbo I am in the cage but can handle bout anything you can dish out, I’m tougher than most guys. Youngest of 6.
Unca' Bob
May 17th, 2009
7:23 pm
Shamus Thacker,
I didn’t know Tommy Nobis was not in the HOF. Why that is I don’t know. In my minds eye, Mr Nobis is one of the best to ever, ever play the game. Honestly, it comes to me as a shock that he is not a member. I remember your name from a post from a different blog that had to do with K Brookings and M Chambers. Man, that is with no doubt, THE funniest line I have ever read. At that time I changed your name to Shameless Thacker. Thanx for a great laugh.
falcon21
May 17th, 2009
7:41 pm
I hear you Jimbo but Sarah is just another bird in the cage. You will not hurt her feelings.
falcon21
May 17th, 2009
7:53 pm
Unca’Bob, the only reason Tommy is not in the HOF is because he played on such pizz poor teams. I agree it is not right, Tommy was one of the best but that is how the NFL is. Things are changing now, these are not the same old Falcons.
Unca' Bob
May 17th, 2009
8:28 pm
falcon21,
Thank you for your reply. Mr Nobis is, and always will be Falcon #1 to me. The times are a’ changin’, and some how , I still get a great deal of comfort being an ol’ Falcon.
Unca' Bob
May 17th, 2009
8:59 pm
Enter your comments here
JJ
May 17th, 2009
9:01 pm
D3: last time my friend, these “new” bloggers want to social with each other and I just really want to talk my falcons! I spent some time re-searching miami and not one dame reply, damn i miss the guys from pre-draft we had. I’ll watch every day, but damn – this is not nfl blog!!!
Too much research for ZERO reply – thanks for the recipes bro!!!
falcon21
May 17th, 2009
9:04 pm
Unca’Bob, ol’Falcon fans as you and I are, we have always hoped for this kind of management to carry this team to a higher level for years to come!!! The times they are a changing.
falcon21
May 17th, 2009
9:14 pm
Sorry JJ, I thought I was talking Falcon football. I will put my hands in my pockets and only read.
Ken Strickland
May 17th, 2009
9:17 pm
JIMBO-Middleton and DHall are the same size. I remember the yr DHall went up against WR TOwens twice when he was with Philly and DHall ate his lunch both times. Darrell Green was better at 40 than most CB’s were at half his age. I believe Dion Sanders would have been the same way if his feet hadn’t betrayed him.
UNCA BOB-you don’t know how much I appreciate the compliment and the acknowledgement, THANKS MY FRIEND. It appears DE JAbraham did have some sort of surgery during the off season. That would make the acquisition of DE LSidbury even more of a steal. A DE rotation of JAnderson, JAbraham, CDavis, KBiermann, LSidbury and possibly MLucas or WEvans ain’t bad at all. A DT rotation of PJerry, TLewis, JBabineaux, VWalker and either JJefferson, TJohnson or Tmiles ain’t bad either.
The more I read about CB COwens, the more I believe he will be the one to replace former CB DFoxworth. The report said teams respected and feared his playmaking ability so much they just didn’t throw his way. He was rated as the best shutdown corner on the entire West coast and one of the best in college. That’s why TD and Smitty were watching him so closely.
He was so good that he didn’t get anywhere near the opportunities to make as many plays as his CB teammate. The other CB’s that played opposite him got the recognition and made more plays, but he was the reason they got so many chances. If Middleton has a good camp, we might see either VHutchins or BGrimes traded or released. Hutchins is considered more of a cover 2 CB that’s very physical and well suited for nickle back, but CJackson might have that locked up based on last yrs performance.
jason
May 17th, 2009
9:59 pm
falcon21,I remember Bobby Butler. He was Deion before Deiom as far as ATL CBs are concerned. FSU, Seminole Warrior would be so proud.
falcon21
May 17th, 2009
10:03 pm
Ken S. I agree with you on C.Jackson. V.Hutchins, I still have no clue about. Grimes got beat a few times last season at corner in the limited amount of time he was there. As you said, one of the two will porbably be cut or traded. Hopefully some of the younger guys will make a good showing in preseason.
falcon21
May 17th, 2009
10:14 pm
Yeah Jason, BB was a small CB but could hold his own with anyone.
jason
May 17th, 2009
10:17 pm
One thing, has ATL ever had a player go to the HOF? I was talking one day a while ago about great players who never made the HOF. I always thought Steve Bartkowski was a great player. I thought if he played on a winning team he would have gotten more noteriety. Steve had a cannon, long before Farve.
Did anyone see my post earluer about the DTs? It was at 4:53. I am courious on opinions. Hey, Ken, I know you can provide me and answer. I am courious.
JJ sorry, I had some exciting news I needed to share with some people. I thoought what better than the Bird Cage considering he is afterall a DAWGS, and a Falcon born and raised.
D3, what’s up? Did you and your nephews get rained out. If not give me a score.Unca’ Bob’s right. Dude you have to be on your third keyboard just this blog alone. Mad typing skills with great research to keep us all up to date. Like my kid, when ATL wins the Super Bowl, I want to hear I am going to Disney World!!! Keep the info coming, I am waiting to drop the AFC North tomorrow. What team is up first ?
Seriously, the conversation about Middleton is intriging. I believe TD drafted Middleton for a purpose. I don’t believe he drafts players for the sake of depth. I think he looks at each transaction whether draft or FA,the decision is made on the premise of can he help our team get better. TD banks on getting starters; if not, getting productive players who fit the scheme and can excell at their roles for the ultimate benefit of the team.
jason
May 17th, 2009
10:23 pm
Okay, we are looking at CBs. DTs can wait. Who does ATL have for sure? Houston and Jackson. I think Owens and Middleton are both locks also. How many CBs will Smitty/Van Gorder take? If 5 then Grimes or Hutchins are in trouble. It will depend on who is diverse; can play nickel, possibly safety in a pinch. Who is strong coming up on the run. If they go 6, they both may be ok. I don’t see Irons making the roster at all.
Unca' Bob
May 17th, 2009
10:29 pm
falcon21,
TD, Coach Smith & Co. This is the best that has ever rolled down this or any other pike.
jason
May 17th, 2009
10:35 pm
JJ, I am going to give you a reply on the Dolphins matchup. It’s a Bill Parcells team so you know what is up. The Dolphins are going to play sound fundemental football. They are going to run the ball and stop the run. Then they are going to throw blitzes at Matty Ice.
ATL is going to try and establish the run. This will be no easy task. Like last year against the Lions I think ATL will come out throwing. But this time it will be establishing Gonzo first. That will intell set up Roddy in the second Half. I say Turner doe not go for a 100. I look for him to be in the 90’s range. I do however expect Ryan to 300 and 4 TDs. 2 each to White and Gonzo. On Defense ATL will stop the run. The X Factor, the Wildcat will be interesting. I think ATL will get Burnt on that formation once. After all it is the first game of the season. But only once. The speed ATL has at DE and OLB they will neutralize the Wildcat. I say Pat White either turns the ball over, or has a negative yardage play. I see 3 TOs for miami and ATL wins 31-17.
jason
May 17th, 2009
10:42 pm
Sorry guys, I am trying to catch up on the day. Been busy; alot going on. SO, here we go. WHAT’S UP IN THE BIRD CAGE?!?!! Some of you guys were talking about getting together during training camp. How about this. The San Deigo Preseason game will be on National tv, I think. What if you all met up there for a tailgating before the game. Now, I am in San Antone so I won’t be able to make it. But you could do something special for us displaced Falcon fans during the game(LOL). So, what do you think?
falcon21
May 17th, 2009
10:45 pm
Got it Unca’Bob, no more one and done years. We may be on one heck of a roll now. Sorry JJ, it is still Falcon football we are talking about.
jason
May 17th, 2009
11:01 pm
Well guys and sara B, I am off to bed. see ya tomorrow. I will be checking in early. Later…
Dean 21
May 18th, 2009
1:54 am
Dean21,
You are now the official “IT” geru for the Cagers’ blog. That “F5″ thing works much , much better than the refresh button. To paraphrase D3 you are the MAN!
D3 & Unca Bob>>>>>>THANKS MAN but I don’t think this was a difficult process, just an idea to slay the blog monster which I’m sure all of us have been a victim a time or two…again, just helping the Cagers stay free of that little eat em up monster!
Just call me the blog slayer! (jk)
Jason>>>>>>> Hers’s a shout out to you & your son…CONGRATS MAN, give your son a high 5 from the Dean!!
Turning in for the night, just thought I drop a few lines on the defense side real quick..Ken Strickland, you are right on point brother…our defense will be much improved and will surprise a lot of people except the folks who believe like the Falcons Bird Cage!
The key people to watch are the dT & CB’S. Again, I asked Trey Lewis during mini-camp was he 100% healthy and he gave me a thumbs up and said he was ready, so not only did I leave with his autograph, I also left with a smirk on my face knowing that this kid will be awesome given the opportunity to play at full strength. This will be this kid’s year as well!
I agree with Jason on the 3 year development process, I’m sure we will know exactly what we have in C. Houston and J Anderson this season. I must admit, Chris is a nice guy off the field, did me a solid by taking a pic with my son…truly made his day! (Thanks Chris!)
Sarah B….I will be glad to work with you on initiating a committee to join the cagers at training camp this season, just let me know…and I’m sure D3 wlll be glad to assist as well.
Alright Cagers, I’ll be back later today for my analysis per D3 schedule.
Dean 21
May 18th, 2009
1:54 am
Oh yeah….Page 7!!!!! The cage rocks!
D3
May 18th, 2009
2:10 am
Great Late Sunday/Very Early A.M. Bird-Cagers! My sleep schedule is all jacked up, so I took a nice, long needed nap when got home from the rained out Bravo’s game. To Falcons & Football……
JJ – what’s up brother-man? Don’t leave the ‘Cage bro. The move away from pure Falcons can be blamed on me. I just tried to give us some supplemental material as we roll into the dry spell of downtime from mini-camp to training camp. It’s something I enjoy doing more on a daily basis, rather than a weekly, and it will be really difficult to talk Falcons all the time during this dry period and still have a lot of participation(DOL hasn’t posted in a week, most likely taking a break since there’s absolutely nothing going on). I basically have just thrown out a ton of different options and our Bird-Cager’s can post on what ever they like as they please. I have been planning to give my Atlanta-Miami in-depth analysis, but just haven’t gotten around to it. We got our each game opponent analysis we’re touching on each week, which I say we just continue into this week since we’d didn’t have a bunch of posts on it. We’re also analyzing a roster spot per weekday taking us through the summer. Anything you want to analyze, just let us know. Your recipe ideas was the bomb and I’ve used Lil’ Dave’s tender sauce and want tons more from our ‘Cage. Let’s get that kicked up again. So, I ask for you to stay here rockin’ out your great analysis here in the ‘Cage.
jason – great to hear about your son. It’s amazing to hear stories of great things happening to great people.
Unca’ Bob – yep, go figure that my nephews first ever Braves game gets rained out. All good b/c we can exchange for another game in the summer. Also, thanks for the props. Just trying to keep the Bird-Cage healthy and rolling strong.
Possible Topics This Week
Weekly Falcons Opponent:
Atlanta vs. Miami (continue this week)
-include matchups
-key player/strategies
-how game will play out
-final score
Roster Spot Analysis
1 Monday 18-May QB 1
2 Tuesday 19-May QB 2
3 Wednesday 20-May QB 3
4 Thursday 21-May RB 1
5 Friday 22-May RB 2
AFC North Analysis and Predictions
Monday – Bengals
Tuesday – Browns
Wednesday – Ravens
Thursday – Steelers
Guys and gals, these are just ideas I’m throwing out there to help keep the Bird-Cage alive during this downtime. This is by no means the only things to talk about, simply just additional things that will help us stay engaged until OTA’s and Training Camp. If any of you have any other ideas, suggestions, topics, or things you like changed feel free to let it fly. The Bird-Cage is a community of us, by us, and for us.
D3
May 18th, 2009
3:20 am
Last note before some semblance of bed: DO NOT, UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES, SUBJECT YOURSELF TO READING SCHULTZ’s COMMENT BLOG SECTION.
I puked in my mouth, through my nose, and about had a mental breakdown after reading some of those comments. It is absolutely amazing how much hate, vitriol, and outright virulence there is still out there. I mean I felt like it was the Summer of 2007 all over again!
If any of that venom comes spilling into the ‘Cage, please don’t take the bait. That was one of the absolute best things we have been able to accomplish in turning around the Bird-Cage. OK, enough said on that.
Nookah & Seminole where you guys at? Stirg you haven’t left us have you? We’re crankin’ the Falcons talk pretty well again, especially considering the time of year.
jason
May 18th, 2009
8:33 am
D3, I saw the headline and refused to subject myself to that. I posted earlier about his blog and Terrance Moore’s blog(when he was here). It goes to show you that no matter how far we have come; apparently we still have a ways to go. Here’s to keeping the CAGE healthy and moving foward. Not going to put up with any craziness in here.
I wamt to go back to the ATL/MIA match up. I am not going to get into every position group for both teams. I am going to pick one player on offense and one on defense. On offense, I picked a combination. Turner and rush OL. As I said earlier, I don’t think Turner gets 100 yds. in this game. The rush OL against MIA’s run defense in my opinion is going to be most pivotal in the game. I see a team effort fo 1oo yds. I think ball control and time of possession is crucial. Keep the ball and score; keeps Wildcat and Pat White on the sideline. Score enough and it takes Wildcat out of the picture. I am going on the fact that Miami is deploying the Bill Parcels 3-4. They have a good anchor in UGA’s own Jason Fergurson. Now, I don’t see Taylor as DE in this formation. A rush OLB. Their D will only go as their LBs go. Porter, Ayodel, Torbor, Crowder, and Taylor. LBs are very active. Have to create mismatche maybe get Taylor on Gonzo. Let the two old men do battle. Atlanta will have to pass to set up the run. I think they will be successful in that the first half by going to Gonzo and opening up the outside for white in the second half. ATL has 3 big WRs to take advantage of small inexpirenced DBs. Don’t forget Douglas in the slot.
On th ATL’s D side, they have to get a strong pass rush. Miami always seem to have a good OL. Add that to Penningto getting the ball out quickly, ATL could have their hands full. Now at WR I don’t see alot of physicality there. That’s not a bad thing considering a lack of size in our DBs. Run Defense is going to be huge because of the situation at LB. Nicolas and Wire are going to have to make plays. Peterson will have to gel quickly with the front 7. Lofton will be stable if not spetacular in the middle. Lofton’s biggest job will be QBing the signals to the Front 7. Making audibles and such.
This game will be a struggle in the first half simpily because its the first of the season. ATL will pick up momentum in the second half. I see Pat White making a negative yradage play hurting Miami’s chances. Either a fumble or big yardage loss. 31-17 is my final score. I say you will see a total team victory by ATL. I say White gabs a TD and Gozo grabs 2. Turner geta one yd. plunge.
31-17 Falcons win.
jason
May 18th, 2009
8:35 am
Analysis on QB. Is that ATL’s OB Ryan? Let me know. I will be back with Cinncinatti in a lil’ bit.
JohnWaynesworld
May 18th, 2009
8:53 am
Good morning all! What’s up on deck today? Is is ATL vs MIA? Or is it the AFC Norris? Or is it Falcons QB’s?
ALL of the above? Ok…
I am really concerned about this opener. I consider Miami and the Falcons similar in their front office’s approach to success. They started by using free agency, they drafted according to need, and they brought in character guys and threw out dissenters. In my opinion the Dolphins have only helped themselves with this year’s draft with the additions of Vontae Davis, Pat White, and my personal favorite of the draft, cornerback Sean Smith. They, like the Falcons, have increased their overall team speed and will be hard to contain on offense in early downs. On third down and medium to long yardage is where I think we have the advantage. Our defense will have to maintain space or “stay home” on many of the trick “wildcat” plays the Dolphins use and our offense must make rookie defenders pay for their young mistakes while at the same time team block on Miami’s great pass rushers.
The Cincinnati Ben-Cincos:
1 Sep 13 DEN @ CIN -L
2 Sep 20 CIN @ GB -L
3 Sep 27 PIT @ CIN -L
4 Oct 04 CIN @ CLE -W
5 Oct 11 CIN @ BAL -L
6 Oct 18 HOU @ CIN -W
7 Oct 25 CHI @ CIN -L
8 Bye
9 Nov 08 BAL @ CIN -W
10 Nov 15 CIN @ PIT -L
11 Nov 22 CIN @ OAK -W
12 Nov 29 CLE @ CIN -W
13 Dec 06 DET @ CIN -L
14 Dec 13 CIN @ MIN -W
15 Dec 20 CIN @ SD -L
16 Dec 27 KC @ CIN -W
17 Jan 03 CIN @ NYJ -L
The Bungles make it out of the jungle with a 7-9 record. A fresh young defense with some diamond in the rough leaders could make this team playoff ready in two years (if Carson remains verticle and brave and 85 doesn’t turn into Joe Horn). In ‘09 they start to show some juevos.
Ok here’s the Falcons QB scenerio:
Management either pays Redman or they don’t. He is the best qualified back up we have (and right here I am tempted to say “by far”). Redman has produced for the Falcons in the regular season before and is an accurate passer, something which is huge for this offense.
I don’t see any way JPWilson will leapfrog over DJShockley unless DJ gets injured again or unless he flat out underperforms (which he won’t). The only other scenerio I can see is the Falcons let Redman walk because of money (and I don’t think they will because they just were awarded more cap money by the NFL) and use the two young ‘uns as quick understudies.
I actually don’t mind any scenerios of the backup QB except cutting DJ because of his paltry salary for JPW’s paltrier one.
jason
May 18th, 2009
9:49 am
Matt Ryan had an incredible year last year. When was the last time ATL had a QB who could disect defenses, have the abiltiy to audible, go through progressions to find the appropiate target. Composure in the pocket and the maturity to be patient and not force the action. All this, and he was a rookie. He had a rookie season better than Peyton Manning; playing wise. Year #2, what will we have? I know he didin’t have all the playbook. Noone can expect a rookie QB to come in a start, and have the entire playbook down. Now, he does so the sky is the limit. With a new toy, Possibilites are endless. He will surely have some adversity come his way. He will adapt, adjust and overcome. Matty Ice has IT factor. What it is nonne knows, but matty Ice has it. Gonzo, the Fa, Trade, Draft player of the year. He made the whole offseason. He made Ryan an elite QB, and they haven’t played a down together yet. The safety valve. But not really. Gonzo’s ability to get down the seam of the defense allows for Ryan to go anywhere with ball. Ryan just needs his playmakers to win the one on one match ups. Look for 3500yds. Passing 20+TDs and hopefully around 10ints.
jason
May 18th, 2009
10:39 am
1 Sep 13 DEN @ CIN -W, Good start to the new season
2 Sep 20 CIN @ GB -L, Road woes ahead?
3 Sep 27 PIT @ CIN -L, Pitt class of division
4 Oct 04 CIN @ CLE -W, Clev is well cle
5 Oct 11 CIN @ BAL -L, BLT can still play D
6 Oct 18 HOU @ CIN -L, SUsprise pick in the AFC this year
7 Oct 25 CHI @ CIN -W, Carson goes off; chi O still bad
8 Bye
9 Nov 08 BAL @ CIN -W, Bye week helps prep for Raven D
10 Nov 15 CIN @ PIT -L, Close loss, but it is Pitt
11 Nov 22 CIN @ OAK -L, Not what you want, no offense; D is still not vey good
12 Nov 29 CLE @ CIN -L, Where’s the defense
13 Dec 06 DET @ CIN -W, Only guarranteed win
14 Dec 13 CIN @ MIN -W, Ugly game, helps Minn has no QB
15 Dec 20 CIN @ SD -L, SD is on a mission; CIN just another notch
16 Dec 27 KC @ CIN -W, KC D worse than CIN
17 Jan 03 CIN @ NYJ -L, tough road game to close out year.
Cinncinati Bengals – 7-9
The Bengals are kinf oJeckel/Hyde. Can’t seem to get the three facets of the game in sync. The Bengals will win a game with O, win games with D. Palmer is still Palmer, but he and Ocho will miss TJ. The defense is slightly improved. They need a better overall pass rush, and more consistentencey. They are a decent team, but not in the same league as Baltimore and Pissburgh.
Stirg d'Nahsif
May 18th, 2009
11:32 am
I’ve already submitted my entry over ATL vs. MIA. I suggested 16-13, Atlanta. Unlike jason, I think the game will be low scoring and statistically minimal. It won’t be because of good defense, it’ll be because of the kinks that infects early season football.
D3, I’ve been around, friend, and I read inside the cage everyday (I’m officially addicted). I have submitted my analysis and end-of-season records for Denver, Oakland and San Diego (I only projected a record for Kansas City; I didn’t analyze the team). You never posted my predictions, though. I’m not tripping, I just feel like JJ. I did all that research and took the time to submit my thoughts, only to receive no reply. I even started the ball rolling with Atlanta and Miami; but, to no reply. I’m not trying to jump on you, D3 (I know you just may have overlooked my entries). Its just that I’m feeling more interest in Falcon football and the interests that are related to them, that’s all.
JJ, I read your thoughts about the ATL vs. MIA game lastnight and something told me to reply; but I didn’t (my one-year old Falcon Defensive End wanted to play football lastnight) and I should have. I remember when I made an entry about that game and I got no response. If it means anything to you, bro, I agree with your thoughts, mostly, but I don’t think it will be as high scoring as you believe. Falcons will win, yes; but it’ll be a struggle, for both teams. Jason suggested that Matt Ryan will throw for 300+ yards. Matt Ryan threw 300 yards only twice last season and we expect him to throw for 300 in the first game this season? I don’t think that’ll happen, in my opinion. I will agree, however, that Turner will be limited to rushing in the 90 yards range and passes will be thrown like scud-missles. Still, it’ll be low scoring as both teams work out their kinks.
I’ll keep the ball rolling, for all thats interested, with the Falcons next game (ATL vs. Carolina). That should be interesting.
jason
May 18th, 2009
11:41 am
Stirg d’Nahsif, I thought about what I sain with MIA/ ATL. Yeah don’t know what I was thinking when I said 300yds. Guess I gotta a little excited with Gozo at TE. I still say ATL will have throw in hopes of setting up the run. Turner in 90 yd range; with team gaining 120+. AtL has to stay out of long yardage. Miami has got some serious Pass rushers. My final score came on the ability of ATL to get turnovers and stay on the short field. Not saying they will blow MIA’s defense off the field. Turner and Gonzo inside the twent is going to be dangerous.
Stirg d'Nahsif
May 18th, 2009
11:58 am
Now, I agree with you, jason. I, too, think Turner and Gonzo will be dangerous inside the twenty; but its going to take 80 yards to get there, though. Like you mentioned before, Miami looks a lot like Atlanta does, especially from last year. I don’t think Parcells is going to tolerate mediocracy. This year, Miami is going to be just as dangerous as we suspect Atlanta will be. Its almost a shame that these two teams meet early in the season. A week-13 game against these two teams will probably be NFL’s game of the week.
I’ve said it before, Atlanta and Miami in the 2010 Superbowl, Miami, FL. Watch.
jason
May 18th, 2009
12:14 pm
I’ve said it before, Atlanta and Miami in the 2010 Superbowl, Miami, FL.
Now, that’s a bold statement. AFC is going to be rough this year. Miami, NE, BUF, Jets all are going to be playoff contenders. Miami is going to struggle just to make it in; if they do. My early AFC Champion would have to be San Deigo.
Sarah B
May 18th, 2009
12:15 pm
Hello all, here’s to Monday and a short week!
The Cincinnati Bengals:
1 Sep 13 DEN @ CIN -L
2 Sep 20 CIN @ GB -L
3 Sep 27 PIT @ CIN -L
4 Oct 04 CIN @ CLE -W
5 Oct 11 CIN @ BAL -L
6 Oct 18 HOU @ CIN -W
7 Oct 25 CHI @ CIN -L
8 Bye
9 Nov 08 BAL @ CIN -L
10 Nov 15 CIN @ PIT -L
11 Nov 22 CIN @ OAK -W
12 Nov 29 CLE @ CIN -W
13 Dec 06 DET @ CIN -W
14 Dec 13 CIN @ MIN -L
15 Dec 20 CIN @ SD -L
16 Dec 27 KC @ CIN -W
17 Jan 03 CIN @ NYJ -W
7-9
jason
May 18th, 2009
12:26 pm
Seems like we all are picking 7-9. Okay team but inconsistent. How are you today Sarah B ? It’s amazing how close we all are inour picks. Not bad for a buch of ametuers. Lets keep it going. D3, wake up man, Rise and shine. Is your ‘lil WR days and nights mixed up? Looking foward to your commentary.
Sarah B
May 18th, 2009
12:37 pm
Yes Jason I too think they will be inconsistant. Palmer is back but Ocho Cinco isn’t happy and Who’syourdaddy is gone to Seattle. Soooo… who knows really.
WR
May 18th, 2009
12:39 pm
Blame it on the Alc-Alc-Alc-Alc-Alcohol, whats up birdcage, took the week in off, trying to catch up on the goings in the cage now, I took a look at the Shultz blog and I was worried that it may have filtered over into the cage but looks like the mess stayed where it belongs. Now some catching up
JJ,everyone is apologizing because we’re not talking enough football for you, sorry I won’t apologize like other people, I will inform you that this may not be the place for you. I’m not trying to be harsh but the cage is a place for Falcons fans, and most fans have a life beyond the Falcons, we want members such as yourself but we want to keep the family atmosphere that is present. I mean take for instance Jason, he just told us about his son and how amazed and happy he was, did you ever think that someone in the cage may have needed to hear that. I don’t know about you but when your down and out and feelings of giving up surface in your thoughts, a story like that is uplifting. There are plenty of people who go to all types of sporting events to get away from the daily grind of life,and this is that type of place, here in the cage. The Falcons are the number one subject and chances are they will be the only subject once the season starts. Even then, if someone wants to mention something good that has happened in their life it should be considered a good thing. Ken Strickland, one of the brightest minds in the cage has talked about hardships and we look forward to good things happening for him, I didn’t even know the state of Jason’s son but anytime a family is living under that type of stress and a father wants to share some good news it really puts a perspective on what we are all going through, and to think the guy is posting comments everyday and we have no idea what he is going through, it works the same way at the games,because trust me when your sitting in a stadium with 70,000 people, alot of people are going through something even while cheering on the birds. I for one really appreciate the various post, I recently begin to cook more and the recipes for the upcoming season have been a pleasure, I have also found it hard to break into the field of HR and when getting down on myself I hear what Jason and his family has to deal with, and the joy they got from being a part of “make a wish”,the hardships that Ken is facing but taking it like taking a bull by the horns,that helps me realize that life is not that bad, because whatever you are going through someone may be going through something much worse.
I apologize to any cage members who may be offended by the seriousness of my tone, and yes I understand that this is a football posting site, but I’m sure that everyone who has been committed to the site can understand that this site and the comment postings have been almost family like. That is not to say we don’t welcome all postings as long as there not sprinkling hatred, that is to say that we are all fans of the Falcons and as fans we have personal lives and circimstances within those personal lives that we can comment about and sometimes those comments inspire or are admired by others.
WR
May 18th, 2009
1:16 pm
On to Cincy,
Marvin Lewis is on the hot seat, the team has been jekyll and hyde since the days of Boomer Esiason, who personally I don’t feel was the QB he is made out to be. But, back to this year’s version of the Bengals, with a healthy Palmer back and the addition of Andre Smith, Rey Maualuga,Micheal Johnson,and Chase Coffman, along with the players already in place this team could surprise. I know its the Bengals but this team has always reminded me of the Falcons so you never know.
1. Den@Cin-W
2. Cin@GB–W, not much faith in Green Bay this early in the season
3. Pit@Cin-L, not quite ready for the world champs
4. Cin@Cle-W, Do the Browns even know who there QB is at this point
5. Cin@Bal-L
6. Hou@Cin-W
7. Chi@Cin-L
8. Bye—–4-3, not bad but trouble is on the horizon
9. Bal@Cin-L
10.Cin@Pit-L, not a good combination to face after a bye week
11.Cin@Oak-L, not even Oakland can help repair the demage of the previous two weeks
12.Cle@Cin-W, but the browns can
13.Det@Cle-W, especially with Detroit coming up the following week
14.Cin@Min-L, where did Detroit go
15.Cin@SD–L, here we go again
16.KC@Cin–W, At least they have the Chiefs this week
17.Cin@NYJ-L, Bye Bye Marvin Lewis
Bengals go 7-9, part ways with Lewis
Ken Strickland
May 18th, 2009
1:38 pm
Miami’s OFF relies partially on gimmicks, such as the Wildcat formation. That reminds me of the Falcons gimmick laden OFF under HC JMora. If our DEF limits the effectiveness of their gimmicks, their OFF will be severely limited. On the other hand, our OFF is based on solid fundemental football. We’ll start the season with the #2 rushing OFF and the 14th rated passsing OFF, and that’s before the addition of the greatest TE in NFL history. Miami’s DEF will have a lot more to contend with than our DEF.
Their rushing DEF finished #10, while the Falcons rushing DEF was #25, which means theirs was much better than ours. However, their pass DEF finished #25, while ours was #21, which means their pass DEF was awful. Their #1 and #3 leaders in tackles were their safeties(120 & 77 respectively), which explains their poor passing DEF. Unless they drastically improve their pass DEF, they’re going to have some serious trouble containing TE TGonzalez, RWhite, MJenkins and HDouglas, let alone our powerful rushing OFF.
I believe the improvement in our overall DEF and DEF will be greater than theirs. More importantly, we’ll be playing them at home.
jason
May 18th, 2009
1:51 pm
WR, where you been. The blog was a little naked this week end. I know lots to do to enjoy the weekend. Thanks for the kind words. I don’t think JJ was refering to me. I got the wrong perception when I read it also. I went back and he was the first one to Congragulate my son. I bleed RED-N-Black. You can ask the wife… You might not want that answer(LOL)though. I love to talk football. I wish UGA had a blog as great as this one. But it is also cool to know that there are also real people behind all these posts. This blog is like a family. People coming together and sharing their thoughts and ideas about a team that we all can agree on when I say that We love them Falcons. Lets move foward and do what we do best and that’s talk Falcon football.
WR, I believe you are the next one to pick 7-9. That seems to be the magic won/ loss record. With the Bengals aquisitions from the draft, I think they will be a better team. The record may not show it. They are saying the same thing about our Falcons. I think the problem with Cinncinati this year will be consistencey. Also, how good will they be able to run the ball? It’s funny. The NFL is a QB driven league, but you still have to run the ball and stop the run to have any success.
jason
May 18th, 2009
1:56 pm
With Miami you have to gaurd against the underneath stuff. Everyone knows about Pennington’s lack of armstrength, but he is still avery efficient QB when healthy. Limiting YAC will be a huge part of the defensive game plan deployed by the Falcons.
Sarah B
May 18th, 2009
2:28 pm
Well put WR I feel the same way and was also glad to get good news from Jason. Wow we are all the same page regarding the Bunguls too.
Stirg d'Nahsif
May 18th, 2009
2:58 pm
Ken, it seems that your sentiments are congruent with mine, in regards of Atlanta’s offense versus Miami’s defense. Our defense, on the other hand, will contend well against the Dolphin’s offense. Contrary to the pundits that would suggest the “Wildcat Offense” would disallow NFL defenses to contain them, I think we (Falcon’s defense) will substantially prevail against it. Reason being, our defense is filled with (or going to be filled with) players that are most recently familiar with that style of offense. William Moore, Peria Jerry, Curtis Lofton, Chevis Jackson, Chris Owens, etc., are more familiar with the “Wildcat” look than most veteran-filled defenses around the NFL. One things for sure, Big Tuna wouldn’t be building around it, if it didn’t work. We’ll beat them, first game, because its simply, the first game; but come week eleven, when Pat White will be more comfortable, its going to be hell to stop.
WR, I’m going to have to respectfully call you out on this one, buddy. I think JJ’s argument was extinguished when we began to recall the Atlanta/Miami game. JohnWaynesWorld, jason and myself all commented on his analysis. I don’t think he was attacking jason or anyone else, particular. I just think, like most of us, he simply wanted to discuss Falcon Football. Nothing against jason and his son (I’m proud for him); I just don’t think that was the case at all. Like jason mentioned, JJ even acknowledged his accomplishments. I think you introduced something that was extinguished a long time ago.
Can we get back to the game?
jason
May 18th, 2009
3:10 pm
Stirg d’Nahsif, Back to the game it is. I don’t see the wildcat with Pat White up an running the first game of the season. Week 11, I don’t want to be their opponet. I do see how, with Atlanta’s young defense matching up well against the wildcat. You had mentioned it earlier on the blog. The familarity of the formation and the plays run in it will not susprise a Lofton, Moore, Jerry. The game is at home,our O will be breaking in Gonzo. I still say 31-17. Pat White as much as I like him will have one huge negative impact play running the wildcat formation. Whether it be a turnover or a huge loss of yardage. I say ATL will keep the short fiels and run a time of possession game. I don’t see Turner churning out yards. Big Tuna will not let you run on him.I see Gonzo with alot of intermediate catches. I also see Ryan going deep to open up the underneath. This game belongs to Gonzo and Douglas. Now, I did ammend that from ane earlier post inregards to Whitw having a big day. With inexpierenced and undersized CBs. I think Miami will run Man zone with Safety help over the top. The middle of the field as well as the seem down the middle with Gonzo will the best bet passing the football.
jason
May 18th, 2009
3:15 pm
JJ, I know you wasn’t slamming on me. I took that post the wrong way at first. I went back and reread page seven. I apoligise if I offended you with what I thought was a sarcastic post (10:17P.M.) I was like where did that come from? Oh well. Sorry man.
I didn’t respond to the Miami match up at first. I was discussing different topics on ATL. Like the OL, Then there was the DL, and the DBs. The Miami game is going to be hard fought. I just thin Miami will have alot of self inflicted wounds that will prevent them from winning. I say they turn the ball over at least 3 times giving ATL short field to work with.
WR
May 18th, 2009
3:23 pm
Stirg, my man, like I said I was catching up. I wasn’t trying to offend anyone, I basically wanted to let everyone know that, although this site is dedicated to football, you never know who is reading your comments and anytime you have something as good as Jason had to say feel free to do so. Now if what I wrote was misinterpreted I apologize but for as much as I love the Falcons and trust me I do, I understand that life is constantly throwing curveballs at you, some times you hit’em sometimes you don’t, its the when you don’t part that makes positive feedback so important. If I let the stress of life get to me and I jumped out a window, all anyone in this cage would ask is “I wonder what happened to WR, after a while it wouldn’t even matter. So when I read something that warms my heart for another’s situation, and strengthens mine for my own situation, I’m going to let it be know and I’m going to say “keep it coming”. I for one am glad to have everyone on board with the cage, I am also a person that believes that every now and then people need to hear some encouraging words. JJ and whoever else takes an interest in my comments, welcome to the birdcage where the Falcons are the subject but the topics are liable to change from time to time.
Stirg d'Nahsif
May 18th, 2009
3:38 pm
jason, you sticking with that high 31-17 score, huh? I don’t blame you, my man. I’d like to think our offense is going to be high-powered too. I just think its too early in the season to expect a lop-sided score, from two teams with so many similarities. At least you and I are close with Miami’s score.
I didn’t include his name a while ago (when I mentioned the rookie defenders versus the “Wildcat”) but I just watched some video on V. Walker, from G.Tech. Boy, this kid is ferocious. How in the hell did he slip to the seventh round? Here is another player that is going to defend well against Miami and more contemporary styled defenses. I’m not sure if this is going to work but I’m going to paste a page that will display some footage on Walker. This kid looks like Peria Jerry with a Georgia Tech uniform on.
http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/up/player/popup/?rn=207187&cl=12936439&ch=396337&src=sports
Stirg d'Nahsif
May 18th, 2009
3:40 pm
I meant “contemporary styled offenses”
Dean 21
May 18th, 2009
3:49 pm
WR, I agree as well with your post. We sometimes forget that life goes on either with or without football. As a fan, we have personal issues to deal with outside of fighting for our beloved Falcons! We all can agree to disagree; none of us will ever be perfect. Yet, we can allow a guy such as Jason to vent about his family celebration on something special, that’s what teammates does because there is no I in team. I think of this blog as a team of one, sure it’s goal is Falcons football, but it’s also whatever we can do to assist one another. Okay, there is my take on that. I too don’t mean to offend any cagers, just giving my honest opinion of the matter.
D3, you stayed up way too late man! (LOL) Okay, we need to move forward with today’s schedule.
Stirg, don’t think we officially had a convo. since the draft; it’s a pleasure to have your posts brother! If i’m not mistaken, you are in my 2nd home from the states. I actually dated someone who lived in the Capital of Canada, a very beautiful place. Oh yeah, back to the football topics! Whew ~memories…lol
I think the Atl/Miami game will be close until the 2nd half. This is when the adjustments will be made and the Falcons will prevail. I predict the defense will rise up to the challenge and with all the Falcons faithful in the Dome rockin with the white towels, TG will score his second TD in the 3rd quarter. The Falcons will win a hard fought battle to the score of 21-17.
QB #1
Matt Ryan will not only improve this season, he will surpass his efforts from last season. I agree that being a rookie last year, he did not have the entire playbook in his head, but this year, he will be a joy to watch because this kid does have the IT factor. The biggest thing that impressed me about matty ice is his determination to get better by watching film on his opponents and himself.
I’ll return later with my schedule prediction~
jason
May 18th, 2009
4:04 pm
Stirg d’Nahsif, I just watched that footage. Did you see the big man scale downt line and take the RB (42). Big man was moving. Good foot speed, and agility. Alot of teams missed on him. Now, I will say back around the draft, I had read something along the lines about his work ethic, desire. But still that’s a long way to drop…
Dean 21
May 18th, 2009
4:08 pm
The Cincinnati Bengals: – Dean 21
1 Sep 13 DEN @ CIN -L
2 Sep 20 CIN @ GB -L
3 Sep 27 PIT @ CIN -L
4 Oct 04 CIN @ CLE -W
5 Oct 11 CIN @ BAL -L
6 Oct 18 HOU @ CIN -W
7 Oct 25 CHI @ CIN -L
8 Bye
9 Nov 08 BAL @ CIN -L
10 Nov 15 CIN @ PIT -L
11 Nov 22 CIN @ OAK -W
12 Nov 29 CLE @ CIN -W
13 Dec 06 DET @ CIN -W
14 Dec 13 CIN @ MIN -L
15 Dec 20 CIN @ SD -L
16 Dec 27 KC @ CIN -W
17 Jan 03 CIN @ NYJ -L
Total = 6-10
A toss up game at the Jets, not sure, but my gut tells me the Jets will win.
jason
May 18th, 2009
4:10 pm
Stirg d’Nahsif, I am still going with 31-17. Not that I think it will be a blow out. I think it will be a hrd fought game. I think ATL will benefit from the short fiels. I also think Miami’s D will tire in the secon half. I wouldn’t be susprised at Dean 21″s 21-17 score either.
I think D3 is till in bed. The little WR is rinning the house.
D3
May 18th, 2009
4:11 pm
Great Afternoon Bird-Cage Boys and Gals! Been a little slow-go over the weekend as the last few days have had my House CEO and I all jacked up. My little guy has his days and nights completely flipped, so I take the sleep where I can get it. We got a full slate today and this week as we approach a record Page 8. Let’s hit it……..
Bird-Cage Topics – the ‘Cage is a community of us, by us, and for us Falcon/Football fans. Any topic you want to discuss, it is always welcome. Many of us just want to keep the ‘Cage as a daily hobby, so we throw many different topics out there to supplement our Falcons talk. Feel free to comment on all, some, or none of the topics. This is simply a very slow time for NFL Football; if you don’t believe it than take a peek at NFL.com, they’re doing a top to bottom rank of all 32 teams by the fans (not a bad idea). Ultimately, it’s amazing what we’ve done here in the Bird-Cage: intelligent, respectful, engaging Falcons/Football talk with cool fans.
Got all of your Cincy Ocho-Cinco predictions you’ve submitted. Speaking of…..
2009 Cincinnati Bengals
General: First off, how does Marvin Lewis still have a job? I posed that question to one of my best friends whose a Bengals fan, and his answer was simple: Because the owners don’t want to spend the money. I thought for sure that Lewis was getting the hook to get in on all the coaching candidates. Wrong. They did have a Helluva draft, IMO. Andre Smith, Mauluga, MJ, & Coffman should all start or immediately contribute.
Offense
Boy did they let the wrong WR go. They should’ve traded the walking distraction named Ocho Dumb@–, and resigned TJ Housh. They signed Laverneaus Coles as a FA, but he’s been on the serious decline for awhile now. Looks like Cedric Benson may have jumpstarted his career, rushing like a madman at the end of the season. Current TE’s Utecht and Kelly don’t scare anyone, but Coffman adds a great element. Andre Smith finally shores up their OL. But it all goes back to Carson Palmer. He has been injuried the last two years, so this is kind of a big year for the once bright, shining QB. If he stays healthy, they may have a shot.
Defense
They have dramatically improved their DEF on paper. They should have a solid LB trio with Keith Rivers from last year and Mauluga from this year and Dhani Jones. Leon Hall & Jonathan Joseph are a promising CB tandem and if Roy Williams can resurrect his career than they may have a chance in the DB backfield. Their D-Line is pretty anemic, especially considering Abe had double the sacks of their entire defensive line. They need MJ to come on strong in a hurry. Overall, much improved year, but too weak on the D-Line playing the Steelers and Ravens twice a year. Final: 8-8.
1 Sep 13 DEN @ CIN (loss)
2 Sep 20 CIN @ GB (win)
3 Sep 27 PIT @ CIN (loss)
4 Oct 04 CIN @ CLE (win)
5 Oct 11 CIN @ BAL (loss)
6 Oct 18 HOU @ CIN (win)
7 Oct 25 CHI @ CIN (loss)
8 Bye
9 Nov 08 BAL @ CIN (loss)
10 Nov 15 CIN @ PIT (loss)
11 Nov 22 CIN @ OAK (win)
12 Nov 29 CLE @ CIN (win)
13 Dec 06 DET @ CIN (win)
14 Dec 13 CIN @ MIN (loss)
15 Dec 20 CIN @ SD (loss)
16 Dec 27 KC @ CIN (win)
17 Jan 03 CIN @ NYJ (win)
Final: 8-8
Tons, tons more to come on this monday and throughout the week. Got my QB 1 (i.e. Matty Ice) Analysis coming up and my Atlanta-Miami breakdown coming, finally. Great start to the week ‘Cagers!
76 DAYS AND COUNTING TO 2009 ATLANTA FALCONS TRAINING CAMP!
jason
May 18th, 2009
4:11 pm
Someone finally broke away from our Bengal picks 7-9…
Stirg d'Nahsif
May 18th, 2009
4:11 pm
Dean 21, no. I’ve not taken the opportunity to meet your acquaintance; but, believe me, the pleasure is all mine. I’ve read your entries. Every now and then, you’ll sneak an entry into the Cage and then disappear. Your thoughts have not disappointed me yet and I mostly agree with your sentiments. I assumed you were referring to Canada, when you mentioned your second home from the states. I am very, very close to Canada (at the border; Windsor, Ontario) but I do believe Nookah is the one residing there. I’m not sure but I think Detroit is still a part of America. Sometimes it looks like a third-world country, situated between the Canadian and American border.
Dean 21
May 18th, 2009
4:35 pm
Stirg, my apologies, I knew one of the cages lived there. Yes, I’ve been to Ottawa a few times and I even travled to Canada from the bridge in Detroit.
It’s hard to stay in the cage as much due to the Dean’s employment status…way too tied up at time, so I try to stay a float with the posts each week. It’s cool to hear we share similar thoughts about our birds!
Dean 21
May 18th, 2009
4:37 pm
Oops typo:
Stirg, my apologies, I knew one of the “cagers” lived there. Yes, I’ve been to Ottawa a few times and I even travled to Canada from the bridge in Detroit.
It’s hard to stay in the cage as much due to the Dean’s employment status…way too tied up at time, so I try to stay a float with the posts each week. It’s cool to hear we share similar thoughts about our birds!
D3
May 18th, 2009
4:51 pm
2009 Atlanta Falcons Schedule Analysis
This Week: Atlanta Falcons vs. Miami Dolphins (Game 1)
Atlanta Falcons vs. Miami Dolphins; September 13th @ The Georgia Dome
2008 Atlanta Falcons
W/L: 11-5; Playoffs: Wild-Card Round
Scored 391 points (24.4/g), 10th of 32 in the NFL.
Allowed 325 points (20.3/g), 11th.
Differential of 66 points (4.1/g), 11th.
Takeaway/Giveaway Differential -3 (-0.2/g), 21st
Coach: Mike Smith
Key Losses
Dominique Foxworth, Grady Jackson, Keith Brooking, Lawyer Milloy, Michael Boley, Laurent Robinson
Key Addition
Mike Peterson, Tony Gonzalez
Draft: Peria Jerry, William Moore, Chris Owens, Lawrence Sidbury
2008 Miami Dolphins
11-5; Division Champs, Playoffs: Wild-Card Round
Scored 345 points (21.6/g), 21st of 32 in the NFL.
Allowed 317 points (19.8/g), 9th.
Differential of 28 points (1.8/g), 16th.
Takeaway/Giveaway Differential +17 (1.1/g), 1st.
Coach: Tony Sparano
Key Losses: Derek Smith, Renaldo Hill, Vonnie Holiday
Key Additions: Gibril Wilson, Jason Taylor, Eric Green
Draft: Vontae Davis(CB), Pat White(QB/WR/RB), Sean Smith(S/CB)
Likely Match-ups
Miami Offense vs. Atlanta Defense
LT – Jake Long vs. RDE – Jamaal Anderson
LG – Justin Smiley vs. RDT – Peria Jerry
RG – Ike Ndukwe vs. LDT – Jonathan Babineaux
RT – Joe Berger? vs. John Abraham
TE-Anthony Fasano/David Martin vs. OLB-Mike Peterson/Stephen Nicholas
RB – Ronnie Brown vs. MLB – Curtis Lofton
QB-Chad Pennington vs. FS-Erik Coleman/SS Thomas DeCoud
WR-Ted Ginn Jr. vs. CB-Chris Houston
WR-Greg Camarillo vs. CB-Chevis Jackson
Atlanta Offense vs. Miami Defense
LT-Sam Baker vs RDE-Jason Taylor
LG-Justin Blaylock vs. ILB-Akin Ayodele
C-Todd McClure vs NT-Jason Ferguson
RG-Harvey Dahl vs. ILB-Channing Crowder
RT-Tyson Clabo vs. LDE-Kendall Langford
TE-Tony Gonzalez vs. OLB-Joey Porter
FB-Ovie Mughelli/RB-Michael Turner vs OLB-Derek Smith/SS-Yeremiah Bell
WR-Roddy White vs. CB-Will Allen
WR-Michael Jenkins vs CB-Vontae Davis
QB-Matty Ice vs. FS-Gibril Wilson
After a long, long procrastination…finally, my Falcons-Dolphins analysis.
I’m going to depart with some of you guys about this game. Personally, I think this has all the makings to be one of the best games of the year in the ENTIRE league. Two great feel good stories from 2008, both making the playoffs with identical records, both losing in the first round of the playoffs. I think this is going to be a hard fought game to the bitter end.
Dolphins OFF vs. Falcons DEF
Many of the matchups look favorable for us in this one, particularly since our Terror-Dome crowd should be strong and rocking the roof off. The ‘Fins offense is very unconventional to say the least. Pennington will be a year older and they did not upgrade their WR corps one bit (Patrick Turner anyone?). Pennington only has a mid-range game to Ginn, Bess, and Camarillo with short passes. Their TE’s Martin and Fasano are heavily involved in their game. The Ravens exposed their lack of legitimate down the field threats by daring them to beat them; they couldn’t do it. Shut down TE’s Fasano & Martin and their RB’s Brown and Williams and we win. Big test right off the bat for our D-Line & new look DT rotation. Trey Lewis, Peria Jerry, and Vance Walker will get baptized by fire in this game. J.Anderson or Chauncey Davis will get a hell-a test right off the bat against Pro Bowl T Jake Long. Our D-secondary will dominate this one and you can bet that if William Moore doesn’t get the start, then he’ll be in a lot to punish their running attack. If Ronnie Brown & Ricky Williams get going, we’re going to be in for a long day.
Falcons OFF vs. Dolphins DEF
In theory, Matty Ice should have a field day on their secondary. Roddy will dominate Will Allen and Michael Jenkins will have be running circles around Head-Case Vontae Davis. I sure hope that we get Harry Douglas matched up on Sean Smith, because theat will be a serious beatdown as Smith will not translate to DB status in the NFL. As we saw last year, our OFF goes as Turner goes and the addition of Jason Taylor will be trouble-some for our young Sam Baker. Taylor and Porter are the only ones that strike fear on their DEF. Channing Crowder is too much of a head-case in his own right and will lose his S— when Harvey Dahl puts him on his @ss a couple of times. Oh, did I mention HOF TE Tony Gonzalez? As many of our opponents will learn throughout the year: play back in 3-4 Drop or Nickel and Turner/Norwood will run wild, crowd the box with 3-4 Blitz or 4-6 and White/Jenkins/HD/TG will destroy one on one matchups. Double cover our WR’s and blitz LB’s and TG will have a career day. This is all with Matty Ice improving on his amazing Rookie of the Year Performance with more weapons and a much improved defense.
X-Factor: Pat White and that ridiculous “Wildcat”. We take a page directly from the Ravens playoff victory, crowd the box, cover Fasaano and Martin and dare them to beat our CB’s man to man because they don’t have the WR’s to do it.
Final: Last second Falcon FG puts it out of reach.
Falcons 38, Dolphins 28.
So what you guys think?
D3
May 18th, 2009
4:59 pm
Blog monster alert, F5 sword not working on the alien.
D3
May 18th, 2009
5:00 pm
2009 Atlanta Falcons Schedule Analysis
This Week: Atlanta Falcons vs. Miami Dolphins (Game 1)
Atlanta Falcons vs. Miami Dolphins; September 13th @ The Georgia Dome
2008 Atlanta Falcons
W/L: 11-5; Playoffs: Wild-Card Round
Scored 391 points (24.4/g), 10th of 32 in the NFL.
Allowed 325 points (20.3/g), 11th.
Differential of 66 points (4.1/g), 11th.
Takeaway/Giveaway Differential -3 (-0.2/g), 21st
Coach: Mike Smith
Key Losses
Dominique Foxworth, Grady Jackson, Keith Brooking, Lawyer Milloy, Michael Boley, Laurent Robinson
Key Addition
Mike Peterson, Tony Gonzalez
Draft: Peria Jerry, William Moore, Chris Owens, Lawrence Sidbury
2008 Miami Dolphins
11-5; Division Champs, Playoffs: Wild-Card Round
Scored 345 points (21.6/g), 21st of 32 in the NFL.
Allowed 317 points (19.8/g), 9th.
Differential of 28 points (1.8/g), 16th.
Takeaway/Giveaway Differential +17 (1.1/g), 1st.
Coach: Tony Sparano
Key Losses: Derek Smith, Renaldo Hill, Vonnie Holiday
Key Additions: Gibril Wilson, Jason Taylor, Eric Green
Draft: Vontae Davis(CB), Pat White(QB/WR/RB), Sean Smith(S/CB)
Likely Match-ups
Miami Offense vs. Atlanta Defense
LT – Jake Long vs. RDE – Jamaal Anderson
LG – Justin Smiley vs. RDT – Peria Jerry
RG – Ike Ndukwe vs. LDT – Jonathan Babineaux
RT – Joe Berger? vs. John Abraham
TE-Anthony Fasano/David Martin vs. OLB-Mike Peterson/Stephen Nicholas
RB – Ronnie Brown vs. MLB – Curtis Lofton
QB-Chad Pennington vs. FS-Erik Coleman/SS Thomas DeCoud
WR-Ted Ginn Jr. vs. CB-Chris Houston
WR-Greg Camarillo vs. CB-Chevis Jackson
Atlanta Offense vs. Miami Defense
LT-Sam Baker vs RDE-Jason Taylor
LG-Justin Blaylock vs. ILB-Akin Ayodele
C-Todd McClure vs NT-Jason Ferguson
RG-Harvey Dahl vs. ILB-Channing Crowder
RT-Tyson Clabo vs. LDE-Kendall Langford
TE-Tony Gonzalez vs. OLB-Joey Porter
FB-Ovie Mughelli/RB-Michael Turner vs OLB-Derek Smith/SS-Yeremiah Bell
WR-Roddy White vs. CB-Will Allen
WR-Michael Jenkins vs CB-Vontae Davis
QB-Matty Ice vs. FS-Gibril Wilson
After a long, long procrastination…finally, my Falcons-Dolphins analysis.
I’m going to depart with some of you guys about this game. Personally, I think this has all the makings to be one of the best games of the year in the ENTIRE league. Two great feel good stories from 2008, both making the playoffs with identical records, both losing in the first round of the playoffs. I think this is going to be a hard fought game to the bitter end.
Dolphins OFF vs. Falcons DEF
Many of the matchups look favorable for us in this one, particularly since our Terror-Dome crowd should be strong and rocking the roof off. The ‘Fins offense is very unconventional to say the least. Pennington will be a year older and they did not upgrade their WR corps one bit (Patrick Turner anyone?). Pennington only has a mid-range game to Ginn, Bess, and Camarillo with short passes. Their TE’s Martin and Fasano are heavily involved in their game. The Ravens exposed their lack of legitimate down the field threats by daring them to beat them; they couldn’t do it. Shut down TE’s Fasano & Martin and their RB’s Brown and Williams and we win. Big test right off the bat for our D-Line & new look DT rotation. Trey Lewis, Peria Jerry, and Vance Walker will get baptized by fire in this game. J.Anderson or Chauncey Davis will get a hell-a test right off the bat against Pro Bowl T Jake Long. Our D-secondary will dominate this one and you can bet that if William Moore doesn’t get the start, then he’ll be in a lot to punish their running attack. If Ronnie Brown & Ricky Williams get going, we’re going to be in for a long day.
Falcons OFF vs. Dolphins DEF
In theory, Matty Ice should have a field day on their secondary. Roddy will dominate Will Allen and Michael Jenkins will have be running circles around Head-Case Vontae Davis. I sure hope that we get Harry Douglas matched up on Sean Smith, because theat will be a serious beatdown as Smith will not translate to DB status in the NFL. As we saw last year, our OFF goes as Turner goes and the addition of Jason Taylor will be trouble-some for our young Sam Baker. Taylor and Porter are the only ones that strike fear on their DEF. Channing Crowder is too much of a head-case in his own right and will lose his S— when Harvey Dahl puts him on his @– a couple of times. Oh, did I mention HOF TE Tony Gonzalez? As many of our opponents will learn throughout the year: play back in 3-4 Drop or Nickel and Turner/Norwood will run wild, crowd the box with 3-4 Blitz or 4-6 and White/Jenkins/HD/TG will destroy one on one matchups. Double cover our WR’s and blitz LB’s and TG will have a career day. This is all with Matty Ice improving on his amazing Rookie of the Year Performance with more weapons and a much improved defense.
X-Factor: Pat White and that ridiculous “Wildcat”. We take a page directly from the Ravens playoff victory, crowd the box, cover Fasaano and Martin and dare them to beat our CB’s man to man because they don’t have the WR’s to do it.
Final: Last second Falcon FG puts it out of reach.
Falcons 38, Dolphins 28.
So what you guys think?
Stirg d'Nahsif
May 18th, 2009
5:04 pm
I’m not sure if this topic reached the Cage yet (the blog monster may have eaten it) but do you think Miami will be bold enough to start Sean Smith and/or Vontae Davis in the season opener? If so, then I agree with jason. The score will be high and White will catch two touchdowns. Take the rookies to school.
D3
May 18th, 2009
5:06 pm
2009 Atlanta Falcons Schedule Analysis
This Week: Atlanta Falcons vs. Miami Dolphins (Game 1)
Atlanta Falcons vs. Miami Dolphins; September 13th @ The Georgia Dome
2008 Atlanta Falcons
W/L: 11-5; Playoffs: Wild-Card Round
Scored 391 points (24.4/g), 10th of 32 in the NFL.
Allowed 325 points (20.3/g), 11th.
Differential of 66 points (4.1/g), 11th.
Takeaway/Giveaway Differential -3 (-0.2/g), 21st
Coach: Mike Smith
Key Losses
Dominique Foxworth, Grady Jackson, Keith Brooking, Lawyer Milloy, Michael Boley, Laurent Robinson
Key Addition
Mike Peterson, Tony Gonzalez
Draft: Peria Jerry, William Moore, Chris Owens, Lawrence Sidbury
2008 Miami Dolphins
11-5; Division Champs, Playoffs: Wild-Card Round
Scored 345 points (21.6/g), 21st of 32 in the NFL.
Allowed 317 points (19.8/g), 9th.
Differential of 28 points (1.8/g), 16th.
Takeaway/Giveaway Differential +17 (1.1/g), 1st.
Coach: Tony Sparano
Key Losses: Derek Smith, Renaldo Hill, Vonnie Holiday
Key Additions: Gibril Wilson, Jason Taylor, Eric Green
Draft: Vontae Davis(CB), Pat White(QB/WR/RB), Sean Smith(S/CB)
Likely Match-ups
Miami Offense vs. Atlanta Defense
LT – Jake Long vs. RDE – Jamaal Anderson
LG – Justin Smiley vs. RDT – Peria Jerry
RG – Ike Ndukwe vs. LDT – Jonathan Babineaux
RT – Joe Berger? vs. John Abraham
TE-Anthony Fasano/David Martin vs. OLB-Mike Peterson/Stephen Nicholas
RB – Ronnie Brown vs. MLB – Curtis Lofton
QB-Chad Pennington vs. FS-Erik Coleman/SS Thomas DeCoud
WR-Ted Ginn Jr. vs. CB-Chris Houston
WR-Greg Camarillo vs. CB-Chevis Jackson
Atlanta Offense vs. Miami Defense
LT-Sam Baker vs RDE-Jason Taylor
LG-Justin Blaylock vs. ILB-Akin Ayodele
C-Todd McClure vs NT-Jason Ferguson
RG-Harvey Dahl vs. ILB-Channing Crowder
RT-Tyson Clabo vs. LDE-Kendall Langford
TE-Tony Gonzalez vs. OLB-Joey Porter
FB-Ovie Mughelli/RB-Michael Turner vs OLB-Derek Smith/SS-Yeremiah Bell
WR-Roddy White vs. CB-Will Allen
WR-Michael Jenkins vs CB-Vontae Davis
QB-Matty Ice vs. FS-Gibril Wilson
After a long, long procrastination…finally, my Falcons-Dolphins analysis.
I’m going to depart with some of you guys about this game. Personally, I think this has all the makings to be one of the best games of the year in the ENTIRE league. Two great feel good stories from 2008, both making the playoffs with identical records, both losing in the first round of the playoffs. I think this is going to be a hard fought game to the bitter end.
Dolphins OFF vs. Falcons DEF
Many of the matchups look favorable for us in this one, particularly since our Terror-Dome crowd should be strong and rocking the roof off. The ‘Fins offense is very unconventional to say the least. Pennington will be a year older and they did not upgrade their WR corps one bit (Patrick Turner anyone?). Pennington only has a mid-range game to Ginn, Bess, and Camarillo with short passes. Their TE’s Martin and Fasano are heavily involved in their game. The Ravens exposed their lack of legitimate down the field threats by daring them to beat them; they couldn’t do it. Shut down TE’s Fasano & Martin and their RB’s Brown and Williams and we win. Big test right off the bat for our D-Line & new look DT rotation. Trey Lewis, Peria Jerry, and Vance Walker will get baptized by fire in this game. J.Anderson or Chauncey Davis will get a hell-a test right off the bat against Pro Bowl T Jake Long. Our D-secondary will dominate this one and you can bet that if William Moore doesn’t get the start, then he’ll be in a lot to punish their running attack. If Ronnie Brown & Ricky Williams get going, we’re going to be in for a long day.
D3
May 18th, 2009
5:09 pm
Falcons OFF vs. Dolphins DEF
In theory, Matty Ice should have a field day on their secondary. Roddy will dominate Will Allen and Michael Jenkins will have be running circles around Head-Case Vontae Davis. I sure hope that we get Harry Douglas matched up on Sean Smith, because theat will be a serious beatdown as Smith will not translate to DB status in the NFL. As we saw last year, our OFF goes as Turner goes and the addition of Jason Taylor will be trouble-some for our young Sam Baker. Taylor and Porter are the only ones that strike fear on their DEF. Channing Crowder is too much of a head-case in his own right and will lose his mind when Harvey Dahl puts him on his @– a couple of times. Oh, did I mention HOF TE Tony Gonzalez? As many of our opponents will learn throughout the year: play back in 3-4 Drop or Nickel and Turner/Norwood will run wild, crowd the box with 3-4 Blitz or 4-6 and White/Jenkins/HD/TG will destroy one on one matchups. Double cover our WR’s and blitz LB’s and TG will have a career day in the middle. This is all with Matty Ice improving on his amazing Rookie of the Year Performance with more weapons and a much improved defense.
X-Factor: Pat White and that ridiculous “Wildcat”. We take a page directly from the Ravens playoff victory, crowd the box, cover Fasano and Martin and dare them to beat our CB’s man to man because they don’t have the WR’s to do it.
Final: Last second Falcon FG puts it out of reach.
Falcons 38, Dolphins 28.
So what you guys think?
D3
May 18th, 2009
5:11 pm
Falcons OFF vs. Dolphins DEF
In theory, Matty Ice should have a field day on their secondary. Roddy will dominate Will Allen and Michael Jenkins will be running circles around Head-Case Vontae Davis. I sure hope that we get Harry Douglas matched up on Sean Smith, because that will be a serious beatdown as Smith will not translate to DB status in the NFL. As we saw last year, our OFF goes as Turner goes and the addition of Jason Taylor will be trouble-some for our young Sam Baker. Taylor and Porter are the only ones that strike fear on their DEF. Channing Crowder is too much of a head-case in his own right and will lose his marbles when Harvey Dahl puts him on his butt a couple of times. Oh, did I mention HOF TE Tony Gonzalez? As many of our opponents will learn throughout the year: play back in 3-4 Drop or Nickel and Turner/Norwood will run wild, crowd the box with 3-4 Blitz or 4-6 and White/Jenkins/HD/TG will destroy one on one matchups. Double cover our WR’s and blitz LB’s and TG will have a career day. This is all with Matty Ice improving on his amazing Rookie of the Year Performance with more weapons and a much improved defense.
X-Factor: Pat White and that ridiculous “Wildcat”. We take a page directly from the Ravens playoff victory, crowd the box, cover Fasaano and Martin and dare them to beat our CB’s man to man because they don’t have the WR’s to do it.
Final: Last second Falcon FG puts it out of reach.
Falcons 38, Dolphins 28.
So what you guys think?
D3
May 18th, 2009
5:15 pm
For Godsake, what’s the freakin’ deal with the monster eating this last part of my post? You would think I’m cursing up one side and down the other for chrissake. Let’s make it attempt #5…….
Falcons OFF vs. Dolphins DEF
In theory, Matty Ice should have a field day on their secondary. Roddy will dominate Will Allen and Michael Jenkins will have be running circles around Head-Case Vontae Davis. I sure hope that we get Harry Douglas matched up on Sean Smith, because theat will be a serious beatdown as Smith will not translate to DB status in the NFL. As we saw last year, our OFF goes as Turner goes and the addition of Jason Taylor will be trouble-some for our young Sam Baker. Taylor and Porter are the only ones that strike fear on their DEF. Channing Crowder is too much of a head-case in his own right and will lose his mind when Harvey Dahl puts him on his rear a couple of times. Oh, did I mention Hall of Fame TE Tony Gonzalez? As many of our opponents will learn throughout the year: play back in 3-4 Drop or Nickel and Turner/Norwood will run wild, crowd the box with 3-4 Blitz or 4-6 and White/Jenkins/HD/TG will destroy one on one matchups. Double cover our WR’s and blitz LB’s and TG will have a career day in the middle. This is all with Matty Ice improving on his amazing Rookie of the Year Performance with more weapons and a much improved defense.
X-Factor: Pat White and that ridiculous “Wildcat”. We take a page directly from the Ravens playoff victory, crowd the box, cover Fasano and Martin and dare them to beat our CB’s man to man because they don’t have the WR’s to do it.
Final: Last second Falcon FG puts it out of reach.
Falcons 38, Dolphins 28.
So what you guys think?
D3
May 18th, 2009
5:19 pm
ok, seriously….is anyone else having trouble with the blog monster? I’ve tried to post the second part to my Falcons-Dolphins breakdown like 6 times now. Just don’t get it. You would think I’m cursing up one-side and down the other. Jeez(in place of another inappropriate word).
Attempt #7
Falcons OFF vs. Dolphins DEF
In theory, Matty Ice should have a field day on their secondary. Roddy will dominate Will Allen and Michael Jenkins will be running circles around Head-Case Vontae Davis. I sure hope that we get Harry Douglas matched up on Sean Smith, because theat will be a serious beatdown as Smith will not translate to DB status in the NFL. As we saw last year, our OFF goes as Turner goes and the addition of Jason Taylor will be trouble-some for our young Sam Baker. Taylor and Porter are the only ones that strike fear on their DEF. Channing Crowder is too much of a head-case in his own right and will lose his marbles when Harvey Dahl puts him on his rear a couple of times. Oh, did I mention Hall of Fame TE Tony Gonzalez? As many of our opponents will learn throughout the year: play back in 3-4 Drop or Nickel and Turner/Norwood will run wild, crowd the box with 3-4 Blitz or 4-6 and White/Jenkins/HD/TG will destroy one on one matchups. Double cover our WR’s and blitz LB’s and TG will have a career day. This is all with Matty Ice improving on his amazing Rookie of the Year Performance with more weapons and a much improved defense.
D3
May 18th, 2009
5:20 pm
X-Factor: Pat White and that ridiculous “Wildcat”. We take a page directly from the Ravens playoff victory, crowd the box, cover Fasano and Martin and dare them to beat our CB’s man to man because they don’t have the WR’s to do it.
Final: Last second Falcon FG puts it out of reach.
Falcons 38, Dolphins 28.
D3
May 18th, 2009
5:21 pm
Miscellaneous: Pat White and that ridiculous “Wildcat”. We take a page directly from the Ravens playoff victory, crowd the box, cover Fasano and Martin and dare them to beat our CB’s man to man because they don’t have the WR’s to do it.
Final: Last second Falcon FG puts it out of reach.
Falcons 38, Dolphins 28.
Atlanta Falcons = 1 – 0
D3
May 18th, 2009
5:22 pm
I give up on the issues with this website. 8 tries. Nada, zip, zilch!
D3
May 18th, 2009
5:23 pm
Attempt #9
Various: Pat White and that ridiculous “Wildcat”. We take a page directly from the Ravens playoff victory, crowd the box, cover Fasano and Martin and dare them to beat our CB’s man to man because they don’t have the WR’s to do it.
Final: Last second Falcon FG puts it out of reach.
Falcons 38, Dolphins 28.
2009 Atlanta Falcons: 1 – 0
D3
May 18th, 2009
5:25 pm
Various: Pat White and that ridiculous Wildcat formation. We take a page directly from the Ravens playoff victory, crowd the box, cover Fasano and Martin and dare them to beat our CB’s man to man because they don’t have the WR’s to do it.
Final: Last second Falcon FG puts it out of reach.
Falcons 38, Dolphins 28.
2009 Atlanta Falcons: 1 – 0
Ken Strickland
May 18th, 2009
5:27 pm
STIRG-One only has to look at the Wildcat OFF and realize it’s nothing more than a modernized version of the old single wing OFF. Both OFF’s are particularly vulnerable to penetration because both require room and time to fully execute. In order to get maximum benefit out of it, one of the backs has to be able to pass, which is why Miami drafted qb White.
There’s a former NFL QB that’s getting out of prison soon that would be the ultimate QB for the Wildcat OFF. He has a powerful arm and is probably still a better runner than most NFL RB’s. If CB
CHouston doesn’t become more physical, and say CJackson and COwens excel during training camp, don’t be surprised to see CHouston traded.
Having 2 physical cover CB’s and a SS and FS with cover skills will allow us to effectively cover the entire secondary. Add a solid pass rush to that, especially from our front 4, and we could go from being one of the worst pass DEF’s to one of the best. Adding DT’s TLewis(323lbs), PJerry(299lbs) and VWalker(295lbs) to returning DT JBabineaux(284lbs) will make us much quicker, faster and more mobile than we were with KMoorehead and GJackson. Isn’t it odd that before the draft, KMoorehead was listed as the starting DT next to JBabineaux and ends up being one of the first players released.
D3
May 18th, 2009
5:29 pm
Closer than a lot of us think. Falcons put it out of reach with a late field goal.
Final: Falcons 38, Dolphins 28.
2009 Atlanta Falcons: 1 – 0
jason
May 18th, 2009
5:38 pm
Ken, that QB ran the early spread in collage. Might be a nice trade piece. ATL still has his rights. The other day I was talking about the excess cap, and how ATL could release him. Now, I am thinking hold on to him as lonas it takes to make a trade. He ought to be worth a second rounder.
D3, Yes pennington will underneath you to death. The TEs while adept at catching the football, they don’t have the speed to attack the seem of the D ala, Gonzo. ATL has to stop the run with out walking a safety into the box. Let the safety read run and then come down hard. What will kill ATL’s D is if Miami is running. That sets up playaction where Ginn can get YAC.
On O, ATL will throw to set up the run. Yes I said throw to set up the run. A good Bill Parcels team will not let you run the ball. Look for Gonzo huge in the first half strectching the middle of the field. That will set up White and Jenkins on the outside and some draw action with Turner and Norwood. I stan by it 31-17 ATL. Short field and ball control.
jason
May 18th, 2009
5:42 pm
And Ken, The quickness and the agility will help the ATL DL stop the wildcat. The DTs are really quick. Did you see that video that Stirg linked. That’s the type of quickness that the ATL DL will bring this year.
Unca' Bob
May 18th, 2009
6:39 pm
Atlanta-v-Miami
J Norwood will be the differnce maker. I feel he will not only run well he is going to catch some balls. His production catching has jumped with Coach Smith & Co over the last two years. I see him rushing for 80 yards and catching 6 balls, still with limited playing time. How can one team shut down White, Jenkins, Douglas, and Gonzolez, and still cover Norwood out of the backfield? IMHO, you can’t.
Atlanta 27
Miami 17
Unca' Bob
May 18th, 2009
6:53 pm
Ken Strickland,
As always you are on point. The wildcat is a single wing throw back. Dan Henning, former Falcon HC, ran it for the first time in the NFL “modern era” on Dec. 24 2006 as OC with the Carolina Panthers. Guess who he ran it against? The Atlanta Falcons. Dan Henning is now the OC for Miami. Ya’ reckon we may see it again?
row3
May 18th, 2009
7:01 pm
1 DEN @ CIN – W 1-0
2 CIN @ GB – L
3 PIT @ CIN – L
4 CIN @ CLE – W
5 CIN @ BAL – L
6 HOU @ CIN – L
7 CHI @ CIN – L
8 BYE
9 BAL @ CIN – L
10 CIN @ PIT – L MARVIN’S IN TROUBLE
11 CIN @ OAK – W
12 CLE @ CIN – W
13 DET @ CIN – W
14 CIN @ MIN – L
15 CIN @ SD – L
16 KC @ CIN – L
17 CIN @ NYJ – W
Very good draft, just going to take time to gel, 6-10 won’t keep Marvin’s job. TJ’s loss will be huge.
JJ
May 18th, 2009
8:18 pm
My brothers, I apologise. I spent some time researching our first game and you know, kind of felt proud of my research, and had the sunday off (been working allot lately), ANTICIPATING all the responses from my incredibly intelligent (my mind only) analysis. Some of you may know this: you f5, nothing, then you wait 10 min and f5 again…nothing. I did this all day as I was lubricating my joints and my brothers were skipping my analysis…ok..ego hurt!
I’m a huge, huge falcon fan and an idiot! This is my fav. thing to view/discuss and I went from 44 to a child…my bad. (one too many stripe mon!).
WR – no disrespect, but my brothers were not apologizing for my sorry ass. If you re-read the blog, I was one of the first to congrat jason about his son and walt disney. I completely agree that this “true” falcon blog should be for US! Like some of our brothers have their kids going off to irag–help me D3–I think seminole? That IS EXACTLY WHAT THIS BLOG SHOULD BE- about falcons but more impt. the FALCON NATION—dont make me re-print Barry’s anthem!!!
You printed this WR without researching my earlier blog:
JJ,everyone is apologizing because we’re not talking enough football for you, sorry I won’t apologize like other people, I will inform you that this may not be the place for you. I’m not trying to be harsh but the cage is a place for Falcons fans, and most fans have a life beyond the Falcons, we want members such as yourself but we want to keep the family atmosphere that is present. I mean take for instance Jason, he just told us about his son and how amazed and happy he was, did you ever think that someone in the cage may have needed to hear that. I don’t know about you but when your down and out and feelings of giving up surface in your thoughts, a story like that is uplifting. There are plenty of people who go to all types of sporting events to get away from the daily grind of life,and this is that type of place, here in the cage. The Falcons are the number one subject and chances are they will be the only subject once the season starts. Even then, if someone wants to mention something good that has happened in their life it should be considered a good thing
My bad brothers, but I really did not call anyone out…especially Jason’s son…I congratulated in minutes…as always, thank you guys/gal!!! I will try harder not to disrupt this blog with my anticipation for reply’s—aw shit…drinks on me when we meet!
Ken Strickland
May 18th, 2009
8:39 pm
UNCA BOB-If you think back, in 2002 HC Dan Reeves, when M ick was the QB, used the Wildcat OFF regularly in short yardage situations. I’m not certain, but I also think HC JMora employed it on several occasions prior to 2006 as well. Just so you’ll know, I’m not confusing the Wildcat OFF with the QB option OFF also used under him.
The Wildcat uses 3 RB types and it requires quick, fast and mobile DLinemen and LB’s to cover these usually quick and fast RB’s, especially to the outside and off tackle. With our DT rotation we can keep 2 quick, fast and mobile DT’s on the field at all times, and the same holds true for our DE rotation. We now have the speed, quickness, mobility and talent to become one of the NFL’s better DEF’s. The only thing possibly standing in our way is the lack of chemistry and experience.
Consider this. If last yrs OFF could have scored an average of an extra field goal per gm and our DEF could have prevented an average of one field goal per gm, we would have won 2 addional gms and tied the Cardinals in the playoffs. I firmly believe this yrs OFF will add at least 3pts to last yrs average and our DEF will take at least that many pts off the scoreboard.
Unca' Bob
May 18th, 2009
9:06 pm
Ken Strickland,
The good folks at Wikipedia, where I got my information from, have been stricken from my Christmas card list for at least this season. Research, research, research. The process continues. Thank you Ken.
JJ
May 18th, 2009
9:14 pm
Monster ate my 5 paragraph reasson for sundays’ blog.
I was wrong, I was anxious for response on my research of mia-atl…
WR…we do not call out fellow brothers on this blog unless warranted. Did My congratulating Jason and his son..minutes..after his posting… lead you to call me out? Look before you leap or at least…read the damn blog before typing…no disrespect on this blog! JJ
jason
May 18th, 2009
9:41 pm
JJ, did you get my 3:15 post. Don’t worry about it. Lets talk some football. I will say this about the conversations we are having on this board. Sometimes they get confusing. I get confused trying to keep up with all the various topics. I did give you my opinion on the Miami match up. Its all good with me. I just want to talk some football. If we want some DRAMA, we can go over to Schultz’s blog.
ARe you ready for some football?
jason
May 18th, 2009
9:50 pm
Page 8 fellas,and Gal. 700 posts. Man feels like we got down to some serious blogging this evening. Yeah, that’s right D3 finall got on board. D3, ya taking a nap. I fee you. I went through that with 2 kids. You are the only one I believe went to my points on Miami/ Atlanta. I had thit ATL 31-17.
WR
May 18th, 2009
11:12 pm
Whats up fellow cage members just got done with my 24 fix and now its time for some football give or take a quick acknowledgement of an earlier post.
JJ, you said to read the post and look before you leap, what did you just do. I didn’t call you out, you made a comment and I commented on the comment. I even reposted what my feelings and intentions were and I definitely didn’t take the time to throw in a little cussing as you did. If you reread my post as you advised me to do for your post you will see that even if I misunderstood you I just wanted people to know its good to hear good things happening beyond football. Its time to move on, as I said in an earlier posting, sometimes I will disagree with the opinions of others,sometimes I will misinterpret the comments of others but I will keep it respectful and I won’t cuss anyone. When you want to comment on someone’s post do you not begin with addressing their post name, thats all I was doing with you it wasn’t calling you out, gotta get you on the Ramen noodles man, its not that serious.
jason
May 18th, 2009
11:16 pm
WR, you still on. I was getting my 24 fix also. Then the wife(CEO), strapped me into CSI Miami. It’s ok, but i am not a big fan. So, what’s on your football mind this evening?
jason
May 18th, 2009
11:19 pm
There is like no NFL news going on. The only tidbit was Pitt’s Harrison declining invatation to meet Pres. Obama. I don’t really have an opinion. I just thought what he said was funny. True, but still funny.
WR
May 18th, 2009
11:21 pm
ATL-31 Mia-14
Miami went out of their way to improve their defensive backfield and the Falcons aren’t the team to see how the improvement has come along. RWhite,Gonzo,Jenkins,and Douglas are hard enough to deal with without the playaction associated with an effective running game much less with the number two rushing attack in the league. As far as the wildcat it reminds me of another gimmick offense that teams will catch up too very soon. As I recall the Falcons had been running the wildcat with the ultimate wildcat for years and what happened, teams caught up to it. Pat White will add another dimension but I can’t see him adding the dimension that we as Falcon fans saw for years. Just another gimmick offense a la the run and shoot, that teams will catch up too.
D3
May 18th, 2009
11:25 pm
Great Late Evening Bird-Cage Bro’s and Sis’s! Love how well the ‘Cage is rocking over the last couple of months. Page 8 and over 700 posts in a week in a down-time. Gotta love that! Getting some great opponent analysis on Miami this week. So let’s dive in the madness……….
Pat White – don’t want to get into too much college talk here, but just got to throw this in here about what many tv “experts” deem the second coming. Pat White excelled in a system that worked perfectly for him. He played an extremely weak excuse for a conference, the Big East (sorry if any of you are Big East Alum). How well did he do when Steve Slaton and Rich Rodriguez left? Not too good. Not trying to discount his potential because he does have a ton; but let’s not say that he is the savior at QB for the Dolphins(as always, I could be wrong). If you desire, take a look at the powerhouses WV lost to last year:
http://web1.ncaa.org/football/exec/rankingSummary?year=2008&org=768
Stirg – what’s up my D-Town bro’? Good breakdown of the Miami game, first of the year in the Terror-Dome. I think this is a huge game for us. I know its only the first one of the year, but it should be a big test for us and may dictate which way we go. I tried to post earlier about the Wildcat gimmick, but the blog monster was hungry at the time. The Wildcat is exactly what it is, a gimmick. It can work at key times throughout the game, but cannot serve as the core OFF. Did the spread work for Steve Spurrier in Washington. The NFL is not College; you have to run the ball and throw at least well enough with short, medium, AND long throws. The wildcat worked the best when it debuted and lost effectiveness as the season went on. Case in point: Ravens @ Miami in the playoffs. They basically dared Pennington, Brown, or Williams to throw the ball deep…..and could they do it? NOPE! No deep threat added in the off-season.
Dean21 – yep, late night my brother. Looking better so far(fingers crossed). Like your QB#1 analysis, mine coming later.
Ken Strick – you think there’s a serious possibility of us trading Chris Houston? I guess I could see it, but it seems fairly unlikely since he’s started at CB from day 1 and has shown steady improvement. If Hutchins, Owens, & Middleton seriously stepped up I could see it. Like you, looking back at our DEF last year is hard to believe we did as well as we did on the DEF line. Jerry, Lewis, and Walker add an immediate upgrade over Big & Slow Grady.
jason – what’s up j-man? Yeah, just taking a while getting going today. Starting to slowly get our little man in a good routine(hopefully). Great analysis on the Miami game. Unlike some of our other brethren, this game scares me a bit. I think we’ll ultimately take the W, but we go as Turner goes(at least that’s the way it was last year). So having said that, our running game may take a while to get on track, particularly with the addition of Jason Taylor. Joey Porter and Channing Crowder are great and solid LB’s respectively, but the other two don’t scare me too much. And the secondary we look to take apart with our new Hall of Fame TE. Can’t wait to see Jenkins or HD torch Vontae “Meangelo” Davis across the field. Sean Smith is too weak to make a difference this year. Great test for us this year.
Unca’ Bob – like your analysis. Agree with you that the game will be a tight one. I think this might be a huge bell-weather for the season. If we win this one, we have a great chance of possibly going 12-4 or 11-5. If we lose this one we’re probably looking more at 10-6, maybe 9-7. Norwood’s role has steadily increased, except under the dumb@— Coach Dic-trino. I think it may be pretty difficult to re-sign him, b/c you know a team will be probably throw starters money at him. Since we’re well under the cap, we should pass on any FA’s and focus on re-signing White and Norwood. I noticed that when Turner didn’t run well last year, Norwood usually found some creases. They are perfect complements to each other.
Ken Strick(2) – great analysis on last year’s OFF and DEF. Our mobile D-linmen should match up well with the quick and fast RB’s. You mentioning our losses, it’s tough to look at the Denver game which we had in the bag and allowed Cutler to march down the field. We should’ve won that game, hands down. A better DEF wins that game. The Eagles game could be partly blamed on the DEF after collapsing at the start of the second half. Saints, same deal. DEF fell apart right at the end and couldn’t get a stop. We all know about the ARZ game.
Tons more to come……….
76 DAYS AND COUNTING TO 2009 ATLANTA FALCONS TRAINING CAMP!!!!!!!
WR
May 18th, 2009
11:25 pm
Jason, yeah I took the weekend off from the cage, I tried to get into the NBA playoffs but I just miss the gridiron and a little pigskin ball.
WR
May 18th, 2009
11:42 pm
D3, I agree with the Miami game being a good test. Miami is a good rushing team and we will get a real good feel of what to expect with our new and hopefully improved defensive line, and linebackers, but specially the defensive line. I also see this game as being pivotal to Jamaal Andersen. Chad Pennington isn’t the most mobile of QBs so if Andersen can get a sack or two in this first game it could be a spring broad for the rest of the year. Quote me on this one, if the light goes on for Jamaal this year as I suspect it will, and if Abe can stay healthy the Falcons could be in for something seriously special. I don’t know about anyone else but the giants are supposed to be the NFC favorites and Eli Manning just doesn’t strike any fear in me concerning the Falcons. Philly on the other hand could be dangerous, Arizona seems to be falling apart at the seams, Carolina still has Jake the fake,New Orleans won’t have a D,Dallas is the Texas version of the Raiders,the Bears could be interesting they have Cutler and a running game with no receivers but they are covered defensively. Honestly I like the Falcons chances in the NFC without an improved Jamaal, but with a improved Jamaal the sky is the limit.
jason
May 18th, 2009
11:45 pm
WR, Itried the NBA while the Hawks were in it. I don’t like the Refs. The superstar treatment. This year just made remember why I quit watching in the first place.
D3 True, the wildcat can not be a core of the offense. In the right situations it can be devestating. I appreciate Pat White though. Slaton left, and so did their HC. WVU kept the spread but White did a great job of reinventing himself by becoming more of a polished passer. I don’t want to get in trouble here, but White is coming into the NFL a more polished passer than MV. I think that’s why he will work in the NFL. He may only need the spread to establish himself. He’s a good QB. The only thing working against him is the Flutie syndrome.
WR
May 18th, 2009
11:57 pm
Jason, funny how a Dawgs fan and a Tech-man are the only ones commenting tonight except a little D3 here in there. Stirg probably won’t be on anymore tonight but he brought up my man Vance Walker. I haven’t brought him up much because I didn’t want to turn it into a GT blog but Walker is an awesome DT. He was consistently mentioned amongst the top DT’s but he was overshadowed by Micheal Johnson and a poor linebacking corp. Stirg said it first so I can’t take credit, watch out for Vance Walker, he’s a stud DT that teams let slip into the seventh round, so he’s pissed and will be playing with a serious chip on his shoulder.
jason
May 19th, 2009
12:34 am
WR, a Tech fan, NO!!!! Just kidding. It’s all good once they hit the pros. I never had a hate for Tech, like i do UF. Shawn Jones. Ask Seminole Warrior about him. Thomasville, Ga. I went one year at TCCHS
(Charlie Ward was Senior then), and Jones was QB at Thomasville High. They had some classic battles on Friday nights.
I always wondered why ATL never looked at the homegrown talent right here in the backyard. That’s how TB got good when Dungy was coaching them. They drafted what seemed like nothing but Fl players. Players from FSU, UM, and UF.
Brooking was from TECH. He was Damn good before he aged.
D3
May 19th, 2009
12:37 am
WR – say it ain’t so brother, you a GT fan? Hey, its all good. Being a UGA grad and Dawg fanatic, I have nothing but respect for your team, especially with Paul Johnson at the helm. I don’t into that “team hatin” with GT that I do with Tennessee and Florida. GT has my respect and I’m happy as anyone to get Vance Walker. The more UGA and GT guys on our Falcons roster, the better IMO.
j-man – I think there is a place for Pat White in the NFL for sure, but I personally don’t think he’s everyday QB for the Dolphins. I could be wrong because he is 6′1, which is the same height as Drew Brees and such. He may very well turn out to be a solid QB.
James Harrison – c’mon man, you’re seriously gonna make a big deal about going to White House and meeting the President of the United States? No politics whatsoever, but if you’re invited to meet the President at the White House for an achievement you’ve made it is an honor and tradition that should be upheld. Who cares if you don’t agree with their party or politics. He made the comment that “it really doesn’t matter to me.” Just basically disrespecting the office and, IMO, the country. Just stupid and sorry.
WR
May 19th, 2009
12:52 am
D3,Jason-yeah its so but I feel the same way as you guys, I don’t carry any hatred for the Dogs unless there playing Tech other than that I root for both teams, I guess you can say I’m a State of Georgia fan. Jason I agree, except for Brooking I have never understood how so many good jackets and dogs get passed over by the falcons, I mean these schools are in your own back yard. I know its the Falcons section but most people are sleep and if you guys are still up, how do you think Georgia State will do in the next few years. I hope they do well so we have our own trifecta here in Georgia like Florida,Miami,and Florida State(at least in the free shoes U days) bet Seminole would take offense to that comment,its going to be good getting some of the old crew back in as training camp nears.
jason
May 19th, 2009
12:53 am
D3, I was talking about him saying that if the Cardnals would have won he would have invited them. It was like the Pres. was not a steeler fan so it didn’t matter.
I think that white has to be in the right offense. Something like the west coast where he can move the pocket to find the throwing lanes.
Walker is a beast. D3 did you see that clip Strig linked? Watch the big man come down the line hard and fast; then drop the RB in the backfield.
D3
May 19th, 2009
12:58 am
Roster Spot Analysis
QB 1 – Matt Ryan
2008: Offensive Rookie of the Year; 61.1 Completion %; 3440 Pass Yards
16 TD, 11 INT’s; QB Rating: 87.7%, 215 Yards per Game; 6 Fumbles
Rankings: Yards/Attempt-4th, Yds/Completion-2nd;
Pros
This is one of the most obvious roster spot breakdowns of any of the 53. Roared out of the gate completing his first pass for a touchdown. Great leadership. Had perhaps the greatest rookie season as a starting QB. Amazing Work Ethic. Silenced his critics by making every throw on the field. Nicknamed Matty Ice for a reason, cue the Chicago Bears highlight. Displays the toughness and drive of Peyton Manning in being a gym and film rat. Constantly looking to improve. Humble & motivated. Voted one of Offensive Captains of Year by teammates.
Cons
Struggled mightily on the road against Tampa Bay and Carolina. Showed some difficulty hitting the “rookie wall” after game 12. Doubled his int. total down the stretch. Made some poor decisions and reads trying to work the ball in too small a window. Missed on some potentially big throws, particularly in the red-zone.
Many experts are predicting the “sophomore slump” for QB’s in the NFL. Once a full season of tape has been recorded, defenses are schemed to attack weaknesses and hit at confidence. Great talent around him, work ethic, and baptism-by-fire experience last year gives the impression of a grizzled vet. Should help him bust that myth. Face of our Franchise, a lock for QB#1, and makes his first appearance as Pro-Bowl QB.
Stirg d'Nahsif
May 19th, 2009
1:04 am
Our defensive front seven will be the key in that MIA vs. ATL game. We finally got linemen that can get deep into the backfield and can, also, run side to side. Expect to see Atlanta utilize 3-4 looks throughout the game. It’ll be the best defense against this “Wildcat” thing. I am just too excited about our defensive rotations at every position.
Stirg d'Nahsif
May 19th, 2009
1:06 am
I’m ’bout to go and do something the devil ain’t never did before…
jason
May 19th, 2009
1:14 am
Stirg d’Nahsif, are you a Coach? I was thinking about that 3-4.
D3, your cons on Ryan are accurate. But every rookie, even QBs hit that wall. I am going to take his stats and estimate tgis years. Remember GONZO.
QB 1 – Matt Ryan
2008: Offensive Rookie of the Year; 61.1 Completion %; 3440 Pass Yards
16 TD, 11 INT’s; QB Rating: 87.7%, 215 Yards per Game; 6 Fumbles
Rankings: Yards/Attempt-4th, Yds/Completion-2nd;
I am guessing… close to 4000 yds. look for 25 TDs/ 11-12 ints. The 6 fumbles are a product of trying to make a play. Like the NO game last year when he ran for the 1st down in the 4th QT. he fumbled and Blalock fell on it. Ryan learned so much about what you can and can not get away with at the NFL level. I don’t think stats will do him justice this year. I think what you observe of his decision making will tell the tale. The right reads, the right audibles. The way he will throw the ball away rather than take a sack or force the ball resulting in a To. These are the things I am looking foward to. The continued growth and developement of a Franchise and ProBowl QB.
D3
May 19th, 2009
1:19 am
Another great day in the ‘Cage boys. Last one of the night in an attempt to actually get some sleep at a normal time.
WR – I’d love to see Georgia State flourish. I’m finishing up masters degree there right now and its a great school, and I can tell you right now that there is a serious buzz around the Football team from the students. Ol’ Bill Curry is their coach and should make them into a winner in a few years. Exposure shouldn’t be a problem, because many guys who aren’t quite good enough to get in at Tech can still go to Georgia State and live in the ATL. The only thing I worry about is their stadium situation. The Terror-Dome will look so empty and they’re competing directly with GT and UGA. If they were smart they would lobby to play as many Tuesday and Friday games as possible. They wouldn’t need a very big stadium, so if they could find a lot and build a small, nice stadium, the sky’s the limit. They have a bigger student population than UGA does, so I’m hoping for big things from them.
Stirg – good point on the 3-4. Using it definitely matches up best with the quickness and speed of the wildcat gimmick. I see El Sid being dispatched a lot in this game to take away that crap.
j-man – just throwing this out there, but my High School Football coach was Mike Bobo’s dad George Bobo, who made a name for himself down at Thomasville. You know or heard of him?
Alright boys (jason, WR, & Stirg) have a good night fellas. We’ll hit it hard tomorrow.
Tomorrow’s Menu
Standings Prediction: Cleveland Browns
Roster Spot Analysis: QB #2
Opponent: we can continue the Miami analysis or move on to Carolina since we’re technically a week behind, up to you guys.
Have a great night ‘boys!
jason
May 19th, 2009
2:05 am
D3, Yes I have heard of Coach Bobo. Did you go to Rome? When Bobo was HC of T’ville. Man I hated him. T’Ville was on a run then. Mike Bobo , when he was in H.S. had a WR named Daniel Jordan. They were like one. I followed Mike throughout his career at UGA, and now as OC. Alot of people are whining about him as OC, but I think he has done one outstanding job considering injuries to his OL. Coach Bobo was a Fine HC, and Mike will be one too.
I am telling you D3, Highschool football down south on ol’ HWY 84 it doesn’t get any better. I know all of you up north have heard of Thomasville. Whether it be the Bulldogs or the Yellowjackets. And don’t forget about Valdosta. There is a rich tradition down south. South of Macon. LOL. My team. My Syrupmakers won the AAA state Championship this past year; beat Flowery Branch.. 2 questions. Have you ever heard of Alphonso Ellis? What about Terry Solomon? You do know that William Andrews went to Thomasville High… Good Night, be browsing tomorrow morning.
Unca' Bob
May 19th, 2009
6:18 am
The Cincinnati Bengals:
1 Sep 13 DEN @ CIN -W
2 Sep 20 CIN @ GB -L
3 Sep 27 PIT @ CIN -L
4 Oct 04 CIN @ CLE -W
5 Oct 11 CIN @ BAL -L
6 Oct 18 HOU @ CIN -L
7 Oct 25 CHI @ CIN -L
8 Bye
9 Nov 08 BAL @ CIN -L
10 Nov 15 CIN @ PIT -L
11 Nov 22 CIN @ OAK -W
12 Nov 29 CLE @ CIN -W
13 Dec 06 DET @ CIN -W Wow! we are 5&7, maybe we can make a run.
14 Dec 13 CIN @ MIN -L
15 Dec 20 CIN @ SD -L Run is over. Towel thrown in.
16 Dec 27 KC @ CIN -L
17 Jan 03 CIN @ NYJ -L
5-11 Jan 04 Marv goes job shoppin’.
JJ
May 19th, 2009
8:01 am
WR – It’s all good, my bad. One too many beverages and with the braves rained out, I kept hitting F5 waiting for a reply. I’ve learned my lesson.
Jason- I’m really happy for your son AND this is the place to post it.
D3 – Looking forward to your Q2 observation (ur fav. uga).
Redman has proven to be a quality back up, but I’d really like to see shockley with #1 offense to make a comparison. It seams he was stuck with the 2nd/3rd string o last pre-season. Marinating lil’ dave tend. recipe this am. Coffee is a strange ingredient, but can’t wait to taste it – wow, 24 hrs marinating!
Anyone looking forward to this years madden? I cannot wait to have our new falcons on it. (hope their is a patch for Tony G.) I finally decided to upgrade my ps2, any thoughts on xbox3 or ps3?
Off to work, love this weather!
Sarah B
May 19th, 2009
9:35 am
Hey guys I was not on last night due to the finale of 24 as well. Monday is a good night to watch things get blown up. I just realized I never placed my ATL-MIA score. Game one. Home in the Dome! I’ll be there hollering for my Birds. Falcons 27 Dolfins 17.
Unca' Bob
May 19th, 2009
10:06 am
JJ,
Good to see you out and about. I agree with you on Redman. He will stick around until someone beats him out. I think both Shockley and Wilson will get a real good looking over. Wilson’s rap was arm strength. I feel he put that to bed during mini-camp by cranking out a couple of bombs. He came from a pro set at Bama’ so he’s no stranger to it. I think Shockley did , too, at UGA. OK, all you Homers sit back down…should be fun to watch.
Sarah B
That was my pick as well. You need to pick another number ’cause I had it first.
Sarah B
May 19th, 2009
10:14 am
Yes folks it’s your Cleveland Browns….
1 Sep 13 MIN @ CLE – L
2 Sep 20 CLE @ DEN – L
3 Sep 27 CLE @ BAL – L
4 Oct 04 CIN @ CLE – L
5 Oct 11 CLE @ BUF – L
6 Oct 18 CLE @ PIT – L Wow this is harsh…
7 Oct 25 GB @ CLE – W One for the fans, maybe
8 Nov 01 CLE @ CHI- L
9 Bye
10 Nov 16 BAL @ CLE – L
11 Nov 22 CLE @ DET -W
12 Nov 29 CLE @ CIN – L
13 Dec 06 SD @ CLE – L
14 Dec 10 PIT @ CLE – L
15 Dec 20 CLE @ KC – W
16 Dec 27 OAK @ CLE – W
17 Jan 03 JAC @ CLE – L
4-12 or Brady Quinn shines and shocks us all…
Breaking news: To all Comcast Bird watchers… Comcast and the NFL have come to an agreement on the NFL Network. We with digital service will no longer have to pay the extra $5 to get it. Whoo hoo…
Ken Strickland
May 19th, 2009
10:39 am
D3-I mentioned the possibility of CB CHouston being traded because of Smitty’s disappointment with his lack of physicality at the line of scrimmage. Since there’s been no issues made of his cover skills, I don’t think there are any. Also, we didn’t draft all of those quick fast cover CB’s just to replace DFoxworth.
Smitty is obviously going to require his CB’s to play a lot of man coverage and it’s important they be physical and engage the WR before they get off the line. Being physical and jamming the WR within the 5yd limit allows us to play our safeties up to play the run 1st. If they read pass, they can drop back and cover before the WR gets behind them. That can only happen if the CB’s successfully engage the WR’s and delay their release.
Last yr, Houston started out being physical and got off to a great start. Teams started avoiding him and went after CB BGrimes, until he went on IR. When we acquired CB DFoxworth, teams started going after Houston and he reverted back to his more passive style of play.
With much greater expectations from this yrs DEF, there will also be greater expectations from individual players, especially from our CB’s. Those same greater expectations caused Smitty to release 4 DEF starters(2 former Probowlers) from the 07 team and 5 DEF starters(2 former Probowlers) from this yrs team.
Remember, DE’s JAnderson or CDavis & JAbraham, DT JBabineaux(if he starts), CB CHouston(if he’s around) and LB SNickolas will be the only DEF starters not hand picked by Smitty and/or TD.
Stirg d'Nahsif
May 19th, 2009
10:51 am
That is great news, Sarah. Now, I don’t have to shell out $1,234.56 just to watch year-round football.
D3, if it won’t take too much of your time, can you post Carolina’s numbers (like you did Miami and Atlanta) and matchups so we can get started on the second game of the season? Although I still think that Miami and Atlanta will be the most intriguing game (and teams) in the NFL, I’m very interested in the turnout of Carolina versus Atlanta. ‘Preciate it!
JJ, I avoided being a big fan of video games because, like Mary Jane, I didn’t want anything to rob my ambition of accomplishments. I have a son, now, and I don’t think I can avoid it much longer. Besides, I have a very excuse to offer “The CEO”, when I’m ready to make my purchase. I did, however, experience the Playstation, PS2 and XBox (haven’t done the PS3, yet). I found myself very addicted to Madden (post-Vick) and a game called Halo (if you’re former military special ops, this is the game for you). I’m most interested in this new Wii thing. Does anyone know if Madden can be played on Wii?
D3
May 19th, 2009
10:53 am
Great A.M. Bird-Cager’s! Wow with the temperature, eh? I mean, it went from over 80 degrees to under 60 in a couple of days. This has been a wild year for weather for sure. At least it hasn’t gotten Deep South, August Hot yet. Anyway, on to a full plate of topics today……..
jason – yep, I sure am from Rome. Coach Bobo came up north when Mike was a junior at UGA to get a break from being a Head Coach, and I can say that he was as much of a head coach to us than our Head Coach. Coach Bobo was the man. My family all went to the Old West Rome, which is now been closed for several decades. But another South GA/Rome link was Nick Hyder, which I’m sure you’ve heard of as well. Oh yeah, South Georgia is definitely in another league from the other states. I can say that Northwest Georgia used to have some formidable teams, but that has fallen away a good bit.
JJ – great to have you back in the house. Lil’ Dave’s sauce is the S—. It seems like it might be a little weird, but once it starts to marinate in the pan, it smells really good. I didn’t have tomato paste, so I used a little ketchup and it worked like a charm. Yeah, I’ll be as objective as possible on one of my fav UGA players of all-time. I’m a big fan of cool weather as well.
Sarah B. – welcome back in the ‘Cage. That’s the same score differential I had as well. I think this has all the makings to one of the marquee matchups of the entire year. I don’t see why this wouldn’t be a headliner game of opening weekend.
Unca’ Bob – Like I said, I’ll be as objective as I can today, but I can’t fathom them bringing in JPW to specifically compete with Shockley for the #3 spot; I mean why go through the hassle for a 3rd QB spot? Especially when Shockley has earned his spot with 3 different coaching staffs in a matter of 3 years.
Plenty more to come………
Sarah B
May 19th, 2009
10:54 am
Unca’ Bob – that just makes us both right.
jason
May 19th, 2009
10:55 am
Ken Strickland, Good observation as always. I di think this a make or break year not only for Houston, but also nicolas and Anderson. Abe, Babineaus,and Davis all three showed their collective worth last year, or they would be gone to. Didn’t Davis just resign? Babineaux too?Nicolas has never had a chance to get extensive playing time. He needs to show he can handle the NFL. Houston and nderson both have pretty much started sine they were drafted. Nown Smitty must see something they like in those two. Not only were they both kept; they both continue to start. Do they both need to be more productive? Yes. Smitty must think they have a significant value to still be in starter roles. You are right though, in under Smitty and Vangorder they will have to step the play, because they will be left behind.
I will be back with my QB2 analysis, and my CLE prediction.
Stirg d'Nahsif
May 19th, 2009
11:04 am
Ken, Houston out at corner? That suggestion is ’bout as radical as me suggesting to part ways with Abraham. To me (and you mentioned it, as well), Houston’s play was very good early on in the season. I firmly believe that team’s schemes limit certain player’s capabilities and Houston may be a victim of that. You stated that Smitty is ” obviously going to require his CB’s to play a lot of man coverage”, which contradicts their “Cover 2 Deep” scheme (last season’s bread and butter). Now, I agree with you, Houston fell off a little bit, at the end; but I think it was because of an adjustment to a scheme that he was not accustomed to. If you really want to see Houston flourish, return him to the man coverage that he is most familiar with. Just a thought.
Stirg d'Nahsif
May 19th, 2009
11:10 am
D3, if it won’t take up too much of your time, can you crunch and post the numbers for Carolina (like you did with Miami and Atlanta) so we can ride the ATL vs. CAR game. Although I think Miami and Atlanta will be the most intriguing game (and teams) of next season, I’m interested in the turnout of Atlanta versus Carolina. ‘Preciate it!
Sarah B
May 19th, 2009
11:14 am
NFL.com has all 32 teams ranked for the forst time this year and our Falcons are #7.It says with the addition of Gonzo we are definately contenders. I hope this does not jinx us.
jason
May 19th, 2009
11:30 am
D3, Hyder coached at Valdosta. Bobo relocated to Rome to be closer to Mike while he was UGA. That’s what I remember. He was in the running for a State Championship, and even though Mike graduated they still had the talent to make another run. He stayed in Thomasville mike’s Frosh year and then moved.
OK, QB2 analysis. This is hard. Redman vs. Shockley. Redman is a good compliment to the starter. I will disagree that he could start for another team. Yes he started some games 2 years ago under Prictrino, but that was Prictrino’s collage offense that he played while in collage. The question is can he run Mularkey’s Offense? Ryan didn’t even come off the field last year. I believe Ryan took every snap the offense ran. He is a very intelligent QB. To me Redman does not have great arm strength. Redman knows how to play in the NFL. Good stopgap player. Accurate passer. Not very mobile. Redman’s career stas:
2008 Atlanta Falcons 0 0 — – — – — – — – — 0.0 — – — – — –
2007 Atlanta Falcons 7 4 89 149 59.7 1,079 7.2 10 5 9 51 90.4 8 16 2.0 0 2 1
2003 Baltimore Ravens 2 0 7 13 53.8 58 4.5 0 2 6 45 26.0 2 4 2.0 0 3 2
2002 Baltimore Ravens 6 6 97 182 53.3 1,034 5.7 7 3 11 68 76.1 10 8 0.8 0 5 2
2001 Baltimore Ravens 0 0 — – — – — – — – — 0.0 — – — – — –
2000 Baltimore Ravens 2 0 2 3 66.7 19 6.3 0 0 0 0 84.0 1 0 0.0 0 — –
TOTAL 195 347 56.2 2,190 6.3 17 10 26 164 79.5 21 28 1.3 0 10 5
Here, I posted his career numbers. If you look at 2008, he had 0 stats. So, the #2 QB will not play much. DJ shockley has never had an opportunity to play. He must have talent, otherwise he would not keep making the roster through 3 different HCs, and 3 different systems. DJ’s best chance to make an impact was his rookie season until a serious knee injury cost him the entire season. He would have backed up MV and given DJ’s similar dynamics from the QB position. Blessed with great arm strength, and mobility, even after knee surgery. He needs to show durability. We all know about his patience and perseverance. The way he sat behind Greene at UGA for 4 ears. To now overcoming a knee injury. DJ has no NFL stats to speak of. He has all the talent. He just needs to be given the oppurtunity to play and gain some expirence at the NFL level.
I think this will be a battle all the way throughout preseason.Do you go with what you know, or do you gamble with what could be? I think DJ wins this battle. DJ has all the tools. He also has the mental makeup to handle adverse situations. I think DJ’s mental make up coupled with his physical talents will give him the edge.
Unca' Bob
May 19th, 2009
11:33 am
D3,
At this time of year, JPW could have been brought in as a fresh arm on the practice team. I don’t think any of us know what is in the mind-set of the Falcons coaching staff. Anything from this point is purely speculation. Having said that, perhaps they are not satisfied with Shockley’s progress in closing the gap between he and Redman. Perhaps they feel JPW could actually replace Redman. Honestly, I don’t have a clue. What I do know is the Falcon’s have a very good reason for having him in camp this year…The Process continues.
Sarah B,
My thoughts exactly. One for one and on a roll!
jason
May 19th, 2009
11:35 am
G GS Comp Att Pct Yds Avg TD Int Sck SckY Rate
2008 Atlanta Falcons 0 0 — – — – — – — – — 0.0 — – — –
2007 Atlanta Falcons 7 4 89 149 59.7 1,079 7.2 10 5 9 51 90.4 8 16
2003 Baltimore Ravens 2 0 7 13 53.8 58 4.5 0 2 6 45 26.0 2 4 2.0 0 3
2002 Baltimore Ravens 6 6 97 182 53.3 1,034 5.7 7 3 11 68 76.1 10 8
2001 Baltimore Ravens 0 0 — – — – — – — – — 0.0 — – — -
2000 Baltimore Ravens 2 0 2 3 66.7 19 6.3 0 0 0 0 84.0 1 0 0.0 0 –
TOTAL 195 347 56.2 2,190 6.3 17 10 26 164 79.
jason
May 19th, 2009
11:45 am
Unca’ Bob, I think JPW was bought in for a future QB to develope. I don’t see Redman around much longer. Maybe this year. I don’t think it really has anything to do with DJ. TD and Smitty had DJ aroubd all last season to evaluate. They knew he was coming off a knee injury. They were going slow and easy to make sure DJ was healthy so they could get an honets evaluation of his QBing skills. That’s the main reason Redman was kept. ATL really didn’t have another back up QB. JPW will not make the NFL roster this year, might make the practice squad.
Strig. I think the reason ATL deployed the cover two last year was Smitty knew the weak link was on D. He didn’t have his personel to run his defense. With his players coming in this year, you will see more man, and blitz packages. If that is what Houston excells in, then he could be in for a break out year.
WR
May 19th, 2009
11:51 am
Cage members D-Led is back in the house, lets move on over and keep the cage rocking.
jason
May 19th, 2009
11:59 am
Hey guys, a new blog is up. DOL made it back to work…
JohnWaynesworld
May 19th, 2009
12:58 pm
Wait, I wanted the last word!
Ken Strickland
May 19th, 2009
3:15 pm
STIRG-the cover 2 zone requires CB’s to be physical, which is probably why FA DB VHutchins was signed and CB CHouston was criticized. He’s known for being physical and ia a classic cover 2 CB. BGrimes’ aggressiveness, despite his size, was likely one of the primary reasons he earned the starting nod last yr. None of the CB’s we’ve drafted the last 2 drafts are known for their ability to play zone DEF’s of any kind. They are all known for their speed, quickness and man coverage skills. That tells me the cover 2 zone isn’t in our future.
If everything goes well for me, I plan to be back in Atlanta and attending some of the training camp sessions. I intend to follow the competition for the open CB, DT, SS and possibly the LDE position intensely.
The 1st 3 gms of the season will provide a very strong test for our DEF and we’ll have 2 weeks to make whatever adjustments, improvements or correct any problems. The 1st 3 gms will be like an in season preseason that will let us see where we are and what needs to be done to become SB bound. Our real season will be the 13gms/teams we’ll play after the bye week. We can go 1-2 our 1st 3gms, then go 10-3 the remainder of the season and end up 11-5, same as last yr.
D3
May 19th, 2009
3:19 pm
2009 Cleveland Browns
General – The Browns are coming off an under-achieving and disappointing reign with another Belichick assistant in Romeo Crennel, so what’s the answer: hire another Belichick assistant! I’m split two ways in Man-Genius(yeah, right): on one hand he took a pretty weak Jets team to the playoffs in one of the toughest divisions in the NFL, but on the other hand, he’s been known to be cocky, arrogant, and oversaw one of the biggest final stretch meltdowns in recent memory.
Offense – they have some core pieces in place to do some things offensively. They have a young, pro-bowl caliber LT in Joe Thomas, promising young WR in Braylon Edwards(shouldn’t even consider a trade), and drafted some potentially great WR’s in Robiskie and Massaquoi. But until Brady Quinn shows he can stop looking at himself in the mirror and make the transition to the NFL, the Browns are still a huge question mark. Jamal Lewis had a comeback year, but that was two years ago and they appear to have no answer to their running game unless former Clemson product James Davis can show something.
Defense – Besides ILB D’Qwell Jackson I can’t name you one play-maker on that Defense. Shaun Rogers at NT is ok; Willie McGinest was a stud but is on the downslide. Sean Jones is in Philly. Andra Davis is now gone. This looks like a serious re-building effort. While the offense may be solid, the DEF looks to be one of the worst in the league, IMO.
Cleveland Browns
1 Sep 13 MIN @ CLE (loss)
2 Sep 20 CLE @ DEN (loss)
3 Sep 27 CLE @ BAL (loss)
4 Oct 04 CIN @ CLE (win)
5 Oct 11 CLE @ BUF (win)
6 Oct 18 CLE @ PIT (loss)
7 Oct 25 GB @ CLE (win)
8 Nov 01 CLE @ CHI (loss)
9 Bye
10 Nov 16 BAL @ CLE (loss)
11 Nov 22 CLE @ DET (loss)
12 Nov 29 CLE @ CIN (loss)
13 Dec 06 SD @ CLE (loss)
14 Dec 10 PIT @ CLE (loss)
15 Dec 20 CLE @ KC (win)
16 Dec 27 OAK @ CLE (win)
17 Jan 03 JAC @ CLE (loss
Offense has some young potential, but no running game and a terrible DEF leads to another poor year.
QB #2 later……….
D3
May 19th, 2009
3:22 pm
This blog monster is starting to pi$$ me right OFF! Glad I learned to copy all my entries before submitting.
D3
May 19th, 2009
3:22 pm
hello? does this site work at all. 3 attempts……….No Dice! GDMFBS!!!!!!
D3
May 19th, 2009
3:24 pm
Attempt #4, and then I get a “duplicate copy” message. Uuummmm, no because you haven’t POSTED IT YET! NO CURSE WORDS, NO FOUL LANGUAGE, JUST POST THE GD THING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
2009 Cleveland Browns
General – The Browns are coming off an under-achieving and disappointing reign with another Belichick assistant in Romeo Crennel, so what’s the answer: hire another Belichick assistant! I’m split two ways in Man-Genius(yeah, right): on one hand he took a pretty weak Jets team to the playoffs in one of the toughest divisions in the NFL, but on the other hand, he’s been known to be cocky, arrogant, and oversaw one of the biggest final stretch meltdowns in recent memory.
Offense – they have some core pieces in place to do some things offensively. They have a young, pro-bowl caliber LT in Joe Thomas, promising young WR in Braylon Edwards(shouldn’t even consider a trade), and drafted some potentially great WR’s in Robiskie and Massaquoi. But until Brady Quinn shows he can stop looking at himself in the mirror and make the transition to the NFL, the Browns are still a huge question mark. Jamal Lewis had a comeback year, but that was two years ago and they appear to have no answer to their running game unless former Clemson product James Davis can show something.
Defense – Besides ILB D’Qwell Jackson I can’t name you one play-maker on that Defense. Shaun Rogers at NT is ok; Willie McGinest was a stud but is on the downslide. Sean Jones is in Philly. Andra Davis is now gone. This looks like a serious re-building effort. While the offense may be solid, the DEF looks to be one of the worst in the league, IMO.
Cleveland Browns
1 Sep 13 MIN @ CLE (loss)
2 Sep 20 CLE @ DEN (loss)
3 Sep 27 CLE @ BAL (loss)
4 Oct 04 CIN @ CLE (win)
5 Oct 11 CLE @ BUF (win)
6 Oct 18 CLE @ PIT (loss)
7 Oct 25 GB @ CLE (win)
8 Nov 01 CLE @ CHI (loss)
9 Bye
10 Nov 16 BAL @ CLE (loss)
11 Nov 22 CLE @ DET (loss)
12 Nov 29 CLE @ CIN (loss)
13 Dec 06 SD @ CLE (loss)
14 Dec 10 PIT @ CLE (loss)
15 Dec 20 CLE @ KC (win)
16 Dec 27 OAK @ CLE (win)
17 Jan 03 JAC @ CLE (loss
Offense has some young potential, but no running game and a terrible DEF leads to another poor year.
QB #2 later……….
D3
May 19th, 2009
3:33 pm
Attempt #6
2009 Cleveland Browns
General – The Browns are coming off an under-achieving and disappointing reign with another Belichick assistant in Romeo Crennel, so what’s the answer: hire another Belichick assistant! I’m split two ways in Man-Genius(yeah, right): on one hand he took a pretty weak Jets team to the playoffs in one of the toughest divisions in the NFL, but on the other hand, he’s been known to be cocky, arrogant, and oversaw one of the biggest final stretch meltdowns in recent memory.
D3
May 19th, 2009
3:33 pm
Attempt #7
Offense – they have some core pieces in place to do some things offensively. They have a young, pro-bowl caliber LT in Joe Thomas, promising young WR in Braylon Edwards(shouldn’t even consider a trade), and drafted some potentially great WR’s in Robiskie and Massaquoi. But until Brady Quinn shows he can stop looking at himself in the mirror and make the transition to the NFL, the Browns are still a huge question mark. Jamal Lewis had a comeback year, but that was two years ago and they appear to have no answer to their running game unless former Clemson product James Davis can show something.
D3
May 19th, 2009
3:36 pm
The thing about this blog eating crap that bothers me is that there’s absolutely no ryhme or reason to it at all. GD ridiculous!
Attempt #8
Offense – they have some core pieces in place to do some things offensively. They have a young, pro-bowl caliber LT in Joe Thomas, promising young WR in Braylon Edwards(shouldn’t even consider a trade), and drafted some potentially great WR’s in Robiskie and Massaquoi. But until Brady Quinn shows he can stop looking at himself in the mirror and make the transition to the NFL, the Browns are still a huge question mark. Jamal Lewis had a comeback year, but that was two years ago and they appear to have no answer to their running game unless former Clemson product James Davis can show something.
Jimbo
May 19th, 2009
10:53 pm
I think the Bengals are about a year away from turning the ship. But there are still just too many screw ups on that team to overcome. One more year of the bad characters shooting themselves in their collective feet and the purge will begin.
The Cincinnati Bengals:
1 Sep 13 DEN @ CIN -L
2 Sep 20 CIN @ GB -L
3 Sep 27 PIT @ CIN -L
4 Oct 04 CIN @ CLE -W
5 Oct 11 CIN @ BAL -L
6 Oct 18 HOU @ CIN -W
7 Oct 25 CHI @ CIN -W
8 Bye
9 Nov 08 BAL @ CIN -L
10 Nov 15 CIN @ PIT -L
11 Nov 22 CIN @ OAK -L
12 Nov 29 CLE @ CIN -L
13 Dec 06 DET @ CIN -W
14 Dec 13 CIN @ MIN -L
15 Dec 20 CIN @ SD -L
16 Dec 27 KC @ CIN -W
17 Jan 03 CIN @ NYJ -W
6-10