Gonzalez shines as minicamp closes

See if you can find Falcons owner Arthur Blank? Minicamp was open to the public on Saturday.

See if you can find Falcons owner Arthur Blank? Minicamp was open to the public on Saturday. (CURTIS COMPTON/AJC)

FLOWERY BRANCH – The one lasting impression of the Falcons minicamp, was seeing Tony Gonzalez whizzing around the field like a youngster.

He appeared to catch everything thrown his way. On Sunday, he drove out to tip a pass that was too far in front of him. While falling to the ground, he caught the ball.

Offensive coordinator Mike Mularkey had him run a couple of vertical routes and it doesn’t look like the 33-year-old has lost a step. (Wonder if the Hawks have called the Falcons to see if he can suit up for Game 4 on Monday. Gonzalez also played hoops at California and went to the Sweet 16 with Jason Kidd and the crew back in the day.)

“He’s everything that I’ve seen for the last nine or 10 years,” Falcons head coach Mike Smith

Michael "Stats" Wallin, 38, of Dawsonville, was excited to see new tight end Tony Gonzalez. (CURTIS COMPTON/AJC.)

Falcon fan Michael "STATS" Walling (42), of Dawsonville, was excited to see new tight end Tony Gonzalez. (CURTIS COMPTON/AJC)

said. “He’s the prototypical tight end. He can block. He can catch. He can run after the catch. He’s just a guy who’s going to make everybody on this team, offense and defense, better.

KICKING IT WITH THE BVG: Defensive coordinator Brian VanGorder is still the loudest coach on the field.

He’s got perhaps the toughest job, but has tons of help from his assistants and Smith. Molding at least five new starters into the unit is going something we’ll keep tabs on.

POSITION OUT IN
Strong safety Lawyer Milloy Thomas DeCoud

Cornerback Dominique Foxworth Brent Grimes

Weakside LB KeithBrooking Michael Peterson

Strongside LB Michael Boley Stephen Nicholas

Nose tackle Grady Jackson Trey Lewis

BVG thinks he has enough veterans to blend in some of the young talent.

John Abraham did not practice during mini-camp. The Falcons would not say if he a surgery or medical procedure. (CURTIS COMPTON/AJC)

John Abraham did not practice during mini-camp. The Falcons would not say if he a surgery or medical procedure. (CURTIS COMPTON/AJC)

He cited Erik Coleman, Michael Peterson, John Abraham and Chauncey Davis.

“We’ve got enough veteran leadership that can work out to be a great blend with the young players,” VanGorder said. “With young players . . . right now it’s kind of crucial to allow them to get comfortable.”

COMPETITION: Smith said don’t put too much stock into how the unit lined up in mini-camp. There will be plenty of competition for those starting spots. First round pick Peria Jerry could push Lewis. Chris Owens could push Grimes and William Moore could push DeCoud.

“They are competing for playing time,” VanGorder said. “That playing time could come in a lot of different forms. That doesn’t mean, just as a starter. Certainly a lot of guys are battling for starting positions. Some guys are trying to earn spots on the roster. Some guys are trying to get into the two-deep so that they can gain reps. There are a lot of dynamics involved in that.”

NO MATTER HOW IT GOES DOWN, THE DEFENSE WILL BE YOUNG: “We’re going to be young,

Trey Lews (97) had a minor scare on his first day back after two knee surgeries. He spent last season on injuried reserve. (CURTIS COMPTON/AJC)

Trey Lews (97) had a minor scare on his first day back after two knee surgeries. He spent last season on injured reserve. (CURTIS COMPTON/AJC)

but I still think we’ve got a good mixture,” VanGorder said. “We have a number of guys going into their third year. We played with some rookies last year, who gained some valuable experience and should improve this year.
We’ve got a good formula set up.”

MULARKEY ON THE OFFENSE: Mularkey knows that with Gonazlez on board, teams will have trouble keying on one player.

There were games last season, when teams could sellout on stopping Michael Turner or Roddy White and shut the offense down.

“It will be hard to beat down on one guy with Tony in there,” Mularkey said. “It should help the run game with him in there.”

The theme for the offense is “Get Better.”

“We want to get better, everywhere,” Mularkey said.

THE ROOKIES: Made it a point to meet all of the rookie draft choices. Real nice and intelligent group. The Garrett Reynolds kid is huge. He’s the second biggest lineman next to Tyson Clabo. Was worried about the cornerbacks — Chris Owens and William Middleton — being to small. But one Falcon scout told me “as long as they can play.” And warned not to get caught up on their height. William Moore looks like a stud, now it will just be a matter of how fast will he pick up the defense.

Well, now that mini-camp is over, did you get your football fix? Learn anything new about the rookies? Worried about the defense still? Excited about the offense?

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D3

May 12th, 2009
9:03 am

trying to post the rest of my entry. i can refresh 5 times in a row and it will go from 181 comments to 183 comments, back to 182 comments, on to 181 comments, and back up to 183 comments. good lord these technical issues are a trip.

D3

May 12th, 2009
9:04 am

blog monster alert!

D3

May 12th, 2009
9:05 am

Attempt #6

The offense may be ok with McDaniels and Orton(who is no Brady and didn’t tutor under the “system” for years like Cassell) but their running game is a hot mess. They have like 8 rb’s on their roster this year, signing 4 in the off-season before they drafted Moreno. As a UGA grad and fan, I can say that Moreno seemed to buy his own BS this year, as much of the rest of the team did. As much as I love him, he was wearing his OWN shirt on draft day. Ridiculous. They’re transitioning away from the zone blocking which won’t be easy. Brandon Marshall is suspended for at least 3 games, maybe more.

Defense got upgraded a little with Robert Ayers, Brian Dawkins, & Alphonso Smith. Ayers had one good year at Tenn and we know about the development time of DE’s. Their LB corps is in total disarray. Nate Webster and Jamie Winborn gone. DJ Williams moving to ILB and I have no clue who will start on the outside. Besides Dawkins and Champ Bailey, don’t know who will be starting in the secondary. Their draft strategy was scattered and haphazard.

1 Sep 13 DEN @ CIN (Win)
2 Sep 20 CLE @ DEN (Win)
3 Sep 27 DEN @ OAK (Win)
4 Oct 04 DAL @ DEN (Loss)
5 Oct 11 NE @ DEN (Loss)
6 Oct 19 DEN @ SD (Loss)
7 Bye
8 Nov 01 DEN @ BAL (Loss)
9 Nov 09 PIT @ DEN (Loss)
10 Nov 15 DEN @ WAS (Loss)
11 Nov 22 SD @ DEN (Loss)
12 Nov 26 NYG @ DEN (Loss)
13 Dec 06 DEN @ KC (Win)
14 Dec 13 DEN @ IND (Loss)
15 Dec 20 OAK @ DEN (Win)
16 Dec 27 DEN @ PHI (Loss)

Stirg d'Nahsif

May 12th, 2009
9:05 am

I’m not feeling the Broncos this year. After the snap, the QB is the first person, in most cast, to touch the ball; and considering Kyle Orton didn’t take Chicago to that next level, he’s not going to be the saviour for Denver either. Still, situations are different with each team and the Denver Broncos offensive line can even make DJ Shockley look like a Pro-Bowler.

Their draft scored a strong “B” for me. I’m not too familiar with 3-4 defenses but something tells me that their draft and free agent acquistions will put their defense at the very top of NFL rankings. Do you all remember that year when Denver would load every defensive personnel on the line and play man-to-man on the outside? I think it may have been called “46″ defense. Well, I don’t think they can pull it off, this year, with smart offenses like Atlanta and New Orleans; but I do think that they have the type of personnel that’s very similiar to that All-Star defense they once played with. Ayers is a monster coming of the line; and with an all-star defensive backfield (Bailey, Smith, Dawkisn, Hill, McBath), its going to be very difficult to pass on the Broncos. They will lose more games than they will win (because of a tough schedule) but the difference in points will be in single digits and low scoring.

Speaking of their schedule, they start out against weak and questionable teams (Cin, Cle. and Oak) but they follow up with three tough teams before their bye week. They should end up 3-3 before week seven; afterwhich, they have the most brutal schedule in all of football (BAL, PIT, WAS, SD, NYG, KC, IND and PHI). OUCH! That schedule will either end your season early or make you favorites for Super Bowl contention. I think they’ll fold and watch the first round of playoffs on television.

D3, I have a suggestion, my friend, that I think you’ll find more participants with. We have 16 games this season, correct? Subtract three games (because each team plays divisional foes, twice). That leaves the fact that we play 13 different teams. Instead of analyzing each division of the NFL and teams that are irrelevant to the Falcons this season, why not evaluate the thirteen different teams we have to play in the upcoming season. By all means, keep your strategy intact (analyzing schedules, starters, win/losses, draft pics, etc.) but lets do it for teams we look forward to playing. Scoring can be accomplished in different manners. We can either wait until the season and evaluate each game to see how we fared; or, we can grade, before season begins, based on the number of those that agree with your game call. This way, I think you’ll find more Falcon fans interested in participating with analyzing opponents, than you would analyzing teams that we don’t play.

Just a suggestion. You know me; I’ll participate either way.

D3

May 12th, 2009
9:05 am

apologies if a re-post

Defense got upgraded a little with Robert Ayers, Brian Dawkins, & Alphonso Smith. Ayers had one good year at Tenn and we know about the development time of DE’s. Their LB corps is in total disarray. Nate Webster and Jamie Winborn gone. DJ Williams moving to ILB and I have no clue who will start on the outside. Besides Dawkins and Champ Bailey, don’t know who will be starting in the secondary. Their draft strategy was scattered and haphazard.

1 Sep 13 DEN @ CIN (Win)
2 Sep 20 CLE @ DEN (Win)
3 Sep 27 DEN @ OAK (Win)
4 Oct 04 DAL @ DEN (Loss)
5 Oct 11 NE @ DEN (Loss)
6 Oct 19 DEN @ SD (Loss)
7 Bye
8 Nov 01 DEN @ BAL (Loss)
9 Nov 09 PIT @ DEN (Loss)
10 Nov 15 DEN @ WAS (Loss)
11 Nov 22 SD @ DEN (Loss)
12 Nov 26 NYG @ DEN (Loss)
13 Dec 06 DEN @ KC (Win)
14 Dec 13 DEN @ IND (Loss)
15 Dec 20 OAK @ DEN (Win)
16 Dec 27 DEN @ PHI (Loss)
17 Jan 03 KC @ DEN (Win)

Final: 7 -9
Comment: Great job getting rid of Shanahan and McDaniels seat is ablaze!

D3

May 12th, 2009
9:12 am

Stirg – right in line with you brother. Since we have a total of 11 weeks until training camp and 14 weeks until 1st pre-season game, we will have 3 weeks between the start of camp and pre-season; so I was thinking we could do one game every 2 days which would lead us right into the start of the season after our division competition.

Broncos record correction: 6 – 10; maybe too much wishful thinking, but we’ll see. Name any other Belichick clones that worked: Crennel(fired), Mangini(fired), Weis(’bout to be fired).

ok, nuff posts from me. its time for the rest of the Bird-Cage……

81 DAYS AND COUNTING TO 2009 ATLANTA FALCONS TRAINING CAMP!

Stirg d'Nahsif

May 12th, 2009
9:17 am

…and this “panties” thing. I admitted that I may have been a little overboard. Still, I cannot get the image out of my head and it is hilarious. I, too, find myself laughing uncontrolably, Unca’ Bob (like right now). Yet, I discovered lastnight that my words may have been offensive to some people and I don’t won’t to disrupt the comradery that has developed amongst us, in this Cage. So, I’ll lay back and maybe redirect my heckling on some other blog.

In the meantime, get that image out of your head. We don’t want to imagine our offense (or defense) lining up with panties on their heads. I thought about it and it won’t work during regular season. Laugh it off, fellows. Its over.

jason

May 12th, 2009
9:23 am

D3, I am going to do something for you. I will give you a DAWG breakdown this weekend. Do it in your format. Hopefully the Falcon fans wonn’t mind. I also like Stirg d’Nahsif’s idea. That should be the last fix we need to bring in ATL2009.

JohnWaynesworld

May 12th, 2009
10:02 am

D3, I have met the blog monster before and have felt his “I have just deleted everything you just said” breath. I call him The Epiphany Eater. He has gobbled up some of my best stuff, especially on that “other” impersonal, nationwide sports blog that has all the rabid Ain’ts fans. Good for them but there is no continuity in the conversations.

Jason, I like the Dawg breakdown (being a Alum and Herschel’s neighbor way back when) but we are all Falcon friends and we don’t want to bring in the wacky ones from all other sides into our happy camp. Just a thought.

jason

May 12th, 2009
10:16 am

JohnWaynesworld, will respect the blog. see where you are coming from.

Sarah B

May 12th, 2009
10:45 am

Well JJ beat me to it I was going to post the Peter King info. I laughed pretty hard at how pished off the Carolina fans were gonna be when they read that article. HA HA HA!!!!

Unca' Bob

May 12th, 2009
10:46 am

Denver-

With all the Coaching changes on both sides of the ball as well as scheme changes, every player has to learn anew. There are going to be attitudinal problems over Cutter,i.e., “He’s my man and they traded him” to “I’m glad the cry baby is gone”. Conflict is not a good formula for winning. If they have a good year…5-11.

WR

May 12th, 2009
10:49 am

Good morning Gents,

First order of business Unca’bob, excellent post about Victoria Secret, cracked my side reading it this morning. I’m probably the one who detered Stirg from making the panty comments, I didn’t realize he was just heckling and not issuing personal attacks, so I guess you could say I have to get mine out of a wad.

Stirg, good idea on analyzing each team, with the other idea, I just figured it would be more interesting to see what actual people think beyond the so-called experts.

Now on to my Denver analysis,

This is a rather difficult team to figure out. On the one hand you have one of the best offenses in the league with all the major components in place to succeed except running back. Then you trade a successful good quarterback when your defense is what probably kept you out of Superbowl contention. Now you go get the running back you needed, draft good players to upgrade your defense but you have a quarterback competition between Kyle Orton and Chris Simms, two players who don’t exactly strike fear in any opponent. You have a rookie head coach who believes he’s bringing the Patriot system to a new team but as I recall the Patriot system seems to function best when it involves Bill Belichick. Denver begins the season with three cake walk games, but given that its the NFL, you never really know if any games will be a cake walk. After the first three games the Broncos face the NFL equivalent of the Matrix. The team begins to struggle your fans and critics are second guessing every move you make and are out like roaches because your non-experienced very young head football coach put your team under tremendous scrutiny not afforded most other teams.
Chemistry and the lack of it will be a major issue for this team. The defense is going to be very young, but talented, the offense remains intact and add quality at running back, but its going to be hard to buy into Josh McDaniels system considering the moves he has made in the offseason. After week three when the s*it starts to hit the fan I expect the chemistry to become volatile and with Kyle Orton as your leader I see no stablizing force to point the ship in the right direction.
Prediction
5-11-Talent is there even with Orton as the QB but decision making of the rookie head coach will come into question both externally and internally,once the season gets tougher, sad to say it but players who are paid millions will quit on the team because chemistry is lacking and no real belief in the coach exist.

Unca' Bob

May 12th, 2009
11:16 am

Denver P.S.,

Didn’t one of their WR’s run afoul of the law during the off season?

JohnWaynesworld

May 12th, 2009
11:24 am

Good points WR. I guess we shall also see how Brian Dawkins performs as a player and a leader to bring cohesion to their patchwork defense (and of course how long Champ can be healthy and productive as a shut down guy).

I am not sold on this Ayers kid. If I recall, his resume is suspiciously like our own Jamaal Anderson’s.

Jason, I do think Knowshon will be breaking away for many, many yards this season. He will probably get off to a roaring start against the perennial wheel chocks of the AFC North, Cincinnati and Cleveland, and then get to outduel Mr. McFadden and that Al Davis defense the third week. So Knowshon should have about 500 yards by then. I will go way out on a limb (not) and also say that he gets 100+ in the Dallas game (in Denver-Game 4), so he could have 600 yards with two thirds of the season left.

Speculation…Free of charge!! lol

Don’t forget Denver plays OAK and KC twice! Yummy for RB’s!

JohnWaynesworld

May 12th, 2009
11:26 am

Dang monster.

jason

May 12th, 2009
11:27 am

Enter your comments here

Sarah B

May 12th, 2009
11:40 am

The poor situation in Denver leads me to believe theirs in 2009 could be very similur to ours in 2007. Not saying they got anywhere near the same shaft we got but… the makings are there. Star QB and coach cause a ruckus, QB disappers. New volitile head coach in place and the fans loved the old one (ok we didn’t love little Jimmy Mora but we didn’t believe in Petrino either) they are lucky the play the Raiders twice. New QB is questionable at best, Charger Fans are loving this mess. Suddenly McDaniels is looking a lot like Petrino to me. And that is not good.

FreeMikeVick

May 12th, 2009
12:05 pm

Strange…..The Falcons already had a YOUNGER pro bowl tight end on the roster, yet released him last year…..Why? Because he had the audicity to publicly support Mike Vick. You can’t pull the wool over my eyes.

Stirg d'Nahsif

May 12th, 2009
1:02 pm

D3, on a side note, I have a suggestion for that little future Falcon wide receiver you’ve been tending to for the past month. My field of study is psychology and, in my study, I learned of a technique called music psychology (specifically, musicology). In my work study, we’ve applied this technique to some veterans suffering from P.T.S.D.; the results are remarkable.

Anyway, last year I had my first (a hybrid-DE/LB, in the draft class of 2033) and I attempted this technique. Every chance you get, I suggest that you play some classical music around young D3. Try some early classical music from the Baroque period, like some Bach and some Handel; then, graduate into some Mozart and Haydn. I don’t know what kind of drug Mozart was on but he is the most intelligent human (besides King Solomon) I have ever studied. He does something with music that, to this day, has never been conceived. I’m a music enthusiast, so I can go on and on about this subject. I better stop here…

Still, try this technique (I find young stirg sleeps well with classical music) and You will be amazed with his development.

terrell barron

May 12th, 2009
1:12 pm

Brent Grimes starting???? Hell no!!! Owens shopuld win that job. At least

terrell barron

May 12th, 2009
1:13 pm

I meant, at least I hope he does.

Stirg d'Nahsif

May 12th, 2009
1:33 pm

Starting at the corners will be Chris Houston and Chevis Jackson (he’s earned the start). Owens will be the starting nickle back (the same role Jackson played last season). Brent Grimes is a good corner and he has paid his dues, as well. With the defensive scheme that Smitty n’em implemented, Grimes, Middleton and Owens will get a lot of playing time. Finally, we have depth. Don’t get caught up in “starter” titles. All 53 men will have a role.

jason

May 12th, 2009
1:37 pm

Stirg d’Nahsif, Are you saying something like a rotation for the CBs, ala smilar to a DL rotation ?

D3

May 12th, 2009
1:57 pm

Great Afternoon Bird-Cage Ladies and Gents! Our Bird-Cage Division/Team Analysis & Final Standings Competition is off and running and we gotta love keeping the Football Mojo going here in the ‘Cage. Got several of your entries, you can change them anytime, and don’t worry about not remembering your picks, because I am saving them in a folder marked Falcons on my computer.

2009 Bird-Cage Division/Team Analysis & Final Standings Competition

**Make sure you mark individual picks (who they defeat, who they lose to), so we can keep score when the regulary season rolls around. You can simply copy and paste the schedule below and mark each game with a W or L. I’ll save all the data.

Unca’ Bob
Broncos: 5 – 11

WR
Broncos: 5 – 11

D3
Broncos: 6 – 10

JJ, Ken Strick, dacha, Falcon Devil, jason, Stirg, Marko, Sarah B. johnwaynesworld, nookah, Lil’ Dave, cutter, Seminole, Gatorzone, Reno911, row3, Cameron, jp3stacks, irvin, Dean21, & anyone else I may have left out: JOIN IN ON THE DEBATE AND HELP KEEP OUR FOOTBALL MOJO GOING!

Weekly Division: AFC West
Today’s Team: Denver Broncos

Bronco’s 2009 Schedule

1 Sep 13 DEN @ CIN
2 Sep 20 CLE @ DEN
3 Sep 27 DEN @ OAK
4 Oct 04 DAL @ DEN
5 Oct 11 NE @ DEN
6 Oct 19 DEN @ SD
7 Bye
8 Nov 01 DEN @ BAL
9 Nov 09 PIT @ DEN
10 Nov 15 DEN @ WAS
11 Nov 22 SD @ DEN
12 Nov 26 NYG @ DEN
13 Dec 06 DEN @ KC
14 Dec 13 DEN @ IND
15 Dec 20 OAK @ DEN
16 Dec 27 DEN @ PHI
17 Jan 03 KC @ DEN

Projected Starters(Best Available)
Offense
QB – Kyle Orton
FB – Peyton Hillis
RB – Correll Buckhalter/Knowshon Moreno/JJ Arrington
TE – Tony Scheffler
WR – Brandon Marshall
WR – Eddie Royal
LT – Ryan Clady
LG – Ben Hamilton
C – Casey Wiegmann
RG – Chris Kuper
RT – Ryan Harris

Defense (3-4)
NT – Marcus Thomas
DE – Robert Ayers
DE – Jarvis Moss
OLB – Boss Bailey
ILB – DJ Williams
ILB – Andra Davis
OLB – Mario Hagan?
CB – Champ Bailey
CB – Josh Bell/Alphonso Smith
SS – Brian Dawkins
FS – Renaldo Hill/Darcel McBath
K – Matt Prater
P – Brett Kern

So there you have it. Let’s hear it about the Broncos described with the following:
-analyze schedule, starters, possible wins/losses, draft picks, etc
-analyze a team each day mon-thurs, & friday-saturday can be our final standings prediction, which I will save
-predict where wins & losses will come, final standings, & division rank

Sarah B

May 12th, 2009
2:13 pm

Bronco’s 2009 Schedule

1 Sep 13 DEN @ CIN – W
2 Sep 20 CLE @ DEN – W
3 Sep 27 DEN @ OAK – W
4 Oct 04 DAL @ DEN – L
5 Oct 11 NE @ DEN – L
6 Oct 19 DEN @ SD – L (they are still mad this will be a big loss)
7 Bye
8 Nov 01 DEN @ BAL – L
9 Nov 09 PIT @ DEN – L
10 Nov 15 DEN @ WAS – L
11 Nov 22 SD @ DEN – L
12 Nov 26 NYG @ DEN – L
13 Dec 06 DEN @ KC – W
14 Dec 13 DEN @ IND – L
15 Dec 20 OAK @ DEN – W
16 Dec 27 DEN @ PHI – L
17 Jan 03 KC @ DEN – W

6-10

row3

May 12th, 2009
2:18 pm

200+ posts on this blog, you get a little behind and you spend your whole day reading just to get caught up. Question? DJ was QB3 last year, I think the third string QB does not count as a gameday roster spot, and used only in case of an injury. Does this make the player ineligible to play in situational offenses (such as the Wildcat).

JohnWaynesworld

May 12th, 2009
2:23 pm

I think our safeties will be better than most expect. When you increase the overall speed of the secondary like we did, the zone looks work much like the man to man, especially in the nickel. The opposing quarterback has much smaller windows to throw the ball and there is always help for star receivers. That is not to say we will always be sound because there will be rookies and 2nd year men out there. That’s where the front seven come into play. Our new “urgent” pass rush will force the action and I expect us to double our INT’s from last year (and that won’t be very hard).

JohnWaynesworld

May 12th, 2009
2:38 pm

And some early interceptions will give these young guys a world of confidence, much like it did for Chevis Jackson and Chris Houston last year. Ok maybe 20 INT’s is too much to ask for from these young guys but that’s the number I’m going with.

JohnWaynesworld

May 12th, 2009
2:40 pm

And some early interceptions will give these young guys a world of confidence, much like it did for Chevis Jackson and Chris Houston last year. Ok, maybe 20 is a bit much to ask for, but that is the number I’m going with.

JohnWaynesworld

May 12th, 2009
2:44 pm

friggin monster…

Stirg d'Nahsif

May 12th, 2009
2:58 pm

No, jason; I’m not suggesting a rotation at cornerback. I’m just saying that, in my unprofessional opinion, the starters at corner ought to be Chris Houston (because he started and played well last year) and Chevis Jackson (because he earned the right to start for his play last year). After that, we have very good depth with Von Hutchins and Grimes. Owens and Middleton should handle nickel and dime back roles. I referenced our defensive scheme, that will require all of the beforementioned players to participate. Everybody is going to play every sound with our scheme.

D3

May 12th, 2009
3:06 pm

Sarah B – got your picks. nice job.

Hate Alert – OMG, don’t be tempted to venture over to the injury blog. Vitriol, Hate, and Execration ay an all-time pitch. Its not DOL’s, so no need to even participate.

Sarah B

May 12th, 2009
3:16 pm

D3 – let me guess the topic? You know who?

Sarah B

May 12th, 2009
3:18 pm

JohnWW – it’s like the monster on Lost sometimes isn’t it???

Unca' Bob

May 12th, 2009
3:21 pm

D3,

I wish I would have come to the Cage first. I saw something new, and, wellll…you know the rest.

jason

May 12th, 2009
3:31 pm

Stirg d’Nahsif, I was thinking along the lines of keeping the starters fresh by not being afrais to play all the CBs. If you are on an NFL roster you should no doubt be able to play the position you were drafted for. Maybe not full time starter, but enough to keep the starters fresh. And that would include all positions, especially on the defensive side. Like you said, Houston and Jackson as starters with Hutchins and Grimes first in reserve. Then you have Owens at nickel, and Middleton backing up the nickel and playing the dime. Not arguing with you, just my ADHD prevented me from understanding your post.

Sarah B

May 12th, 2009
3:47 pm

D3 – I snuck a peek to see if I was right and I am. Let’s hope they never find us but if they do we vow not to take any bait as a group and just ignore them like they do not EXIST!

Stirg d'Nahsif

May 12th, 2009
3:52 pm

Ohhh, so its you that’s in favor of rotation. I’m just excited that we finally have depth at cornerback. Both Von Hutchins and Grimes have starting experience. So if anything goes wrong with the starters, we’re set (provide Houston and Jackson are the starters).

What you think about Owens? How do you like him? I’m not familiar, at all, with the kid; but I have noted the big buzz about him. Everybody is liking this kid at corner. During the draft, I had assumed that TD jumped on Owens in the third because Asher Allen was just taken by Minnesota. Now, reports are making me believe that TD had his eye on him all along.

Do y’all believe that TD would have taken Owens, in the third, if Asher Allen had been available?

jason

May 12th, 2009
3:59 pm

I do think it was Owens all the way. I read TD had been watching Owens for the past two years. That’s why I first questioned his ability to this year. With the depth being built on D, I see a mini rotation. Starters play the bulk, but have the ability to play Back ups to stay fresh. Also good on the job training. Have to always keep that salary cap in mind.

jason

May 12th, 2009
4:02 pm

row3, I believe that the third string QBin non roster on gameday. However, he can play. But if he plays, the first two QBs can not come back into the the D3 to see what he thinks.

jason

May 12th, 2009
4:08 pm

Stirg d’Nahsif, also, I am a big a DAWG Homer as there is, but if TD was looking at Owens for 2 years… As much as I wanted Asher in ATL, screw that. in TD I trust. and hopefully Asher will have a Champ type career; just not at Atlanta’s expense.

jason

May 12th, 2009
4:21 pm

row3, I believe that the third string QB is non roster on gameday. However, he can play. But if he plays, the first two QBs can not come back into play on that game day. I think that’s how it works. Might have to go to the man, D3.

jason

May 12th, 2009
4:22 pm

row3, sorry got hit by the blog monster…

row3

May 12th, 2009
4:36 pm

jason..Thanks, I bet you’re right on that, we’ll get D3’s input too.

jason

May 12th, 2009
4:42 pm

I really didn’t know the answer until a couple of days ago. I think I saw it on (ugh) ESPN. The topic was brought up concerning the “wildcat” formation in Miami, and how they would get Pat White involved.

Lil'Dave

May 12th, 2009
4:47 pm

Whats going on this afternoon Bird Cage? I’m going to take a guess here with the Bronco’s schedule and see if I cant nail there win/loss record for next season. I read all of your (bird cage gang) input on there draft and starters so I wont go in depth there because you guys already nailed it. Ok here I go.

1 Sep 13 DEN @ CIN -L- I’ll go with Cin on this one.. Better QB and O just feel it in my bones.

2 Sep 20 CLE @ DEN -W- I’ll give this on to Denver. Better prepared after losing to Cincy and its the home opener.

3 Sep 27 DEN @ OAK -W- Denver should win this one but if Oakland’s offense ever wakes up Denver could get embrassed.

4 Oct 04 DAL @ DEN -W- I hate Dallas enough said.

5 Oct 11 NE @ DEN -L- NE is just a way better team and I would give Denver a +10 pts they’d still lose this one.

6 Oct 19 DEN @ SD -L- SD has a balanced off/def and Merrmian will be waiting.

7 Bye

8 Nov 01 DEN @ BAL -L- Bal def’s can win games by itself, Denvers cant.

9 Nov 09 PIT @ DEN -L- There probably missing J-Cutler by now and the D probably isnt looking much better.

10 Nov 15 DEN @ WAS -L- Was run D will shine in this game.

11 Nov 22 SD @ DEN -W- Weather will help Denver and Knowshon will have his first 150+ yard game close but Denver pulls it out.

12 Nov 26 NYG @ DEN -L- NYG are just a better overall team top to bottom.

13 Dec 06 DEN @ KC -W- I’m just to unsure what KC is going to be working with at this point in the season.

14 Dec 13 DEN @ IND -L- Payton enough said.

15 Dec 20 OAK @ DEN -W- The best Denvers D has look all season.

16 Dec 27 DEN @ PHI -W- Dawkinsville is back in town!

17 Jan 03 KC @ DEN -L- KC just cant get right.

7 and 9 not to bad for trading your Franchise QB and losing to Cincy on opening day.

WR

May 12th, 2009
5:11 pm

Sarah B, you may not know it but I’m sure D3,Stirg,Nookah,Seminole, as well as many others remember when we worked hard to weed the bad apples out. Occasionally they reappear but we just don’t take the bait and they usually go away. Happened to my man Big Ray a couple weeks ago, he took the bait and realized you can never out do an idiot in an argument, but once you stop they tend to disappear.

Lil’Dave, though I have Denver going 5-11 your predictions look good. Now the win over Philly I don’t get, you have them beating Philly in Philly but the next week losing to KC at home. I understand the Dawkins motivation and any other year I could see him being a game changer in this game, but it would appear in my opinion that Philly has finally built an adequate offense around McNabb, the OL is tight, and if Maclin turns out to be half as good as he was in college the receivers will be straight.

jason

May 12th, 2009
5:24 pm

1 Sep 13 DEN @ CIN L, Bengals better than you think.
2 Sep 20 CLE @ DEN W, Same ol’ Browns
3 Sep 27 DEN @ OAK W, Ditto for the Raisers
4 Oct 04 DAL @ DEN W, Trouble in Dallas?
5 Oct 11 NE @ DEN L, Patriots, Anything else needed
6 Oct 19 DEN @ SD L, Strongest team in the AFC West
7 Bye
8 Nov 01 DEN @ BAL W, Bye week helps
9 Nov 09 PIT @ DEN L, Orton in trouble with fans
10 Nov 15 DEN @ WAS W, close one, Knoshown turned loose
11 Nov 22 SD @ DEN L, not good enough
12 Nov 26 NYG @ DEN W, Home field helps
13 Dec 06 DEN @ KC W, Don’t know
14 Dec 13 DEN @ IND L, Colts not done yet
15 Dec 20 OAK @ DEN W, still the Raiders
16 Dec 27 DEN @ PHI L, Phili tough at home
17 Jan 03 KC @ DEN L, I know, home game, but KC has direction by now.
I have them going 8-8; win one they shouldn’t. I don’t think Denver’s D will be to good this year. To young. Also Orton will not be able to take advantage of the WRs Denver has. Moreno will get a little over 1000 yds. Teams will stack the line with no fear of Orton.

D3

May 12th, 2009
6:30 pm

Great Early Tuesday Evening My Brothers & Sisters! So happy to see the Bird-Cage alive, rockin’, and exceeding all expectations….and this is supposed to be the dry spell? Almost 250 posts since Sunday afternoon? WOW. Great stuff. Getting some great responses on the Division Competition. To Football……..

Stirg – thanks a ton for the music advice for my little guy. I actually got that advice from my brother as well. He has 3 boys and used the same technique. I’ve been doing it from day 1 and it has been a huge help. We’re on a little Pachebel right now and gradually rise to some more artist. I’ve gotten into myself after listening to it. Thanks again man. Every little bit helps when raising a little guy.

row3 & jason – appreciate the props guys. You all have been rockin’ the insights hard here in the ‘Cage. From Jerry Markbreit at the Chicago Tribune:
“Each team is allowed to dress 45 players for each game, plus, a 46th man, providing he is designated as the third quarterback only. If this third quarterback enters the game during the first, second or third quarter, the first and second string quarterbacks are not allowed to return for the rest of the game. If the third quarterback enters during the fourth quarter, the other two quarterbacks may return to the game. This is a special rule that was put in about 10 years ago, and gives each team an insurance policy for quarterback injury.”

Sarah B. and Unca’ Bob – what’s up guys and gals. Yeah, I took a peek at that trash for like 3 seconds and almost vomited in my mouth. Its amazing that it still exists, but surprisingly we’ve done a good job of deterring from our ‘Cage. As I told all our Bird-Cage brethren, negative attention is still attention.

2009 Bird-Cage Division/Team Analysis & Final Standings Competition

Unca’ Bob
Broncos: 5-11

WR
Broncos: 5-11

D3
Broncos: 6-10

Sarah B.
Broncos: 6-10

Lil’ Dave
Broncos: 7-9

jason
8-8

Got all entries saved so far. Great stuff. WR & Unca’ Bob, need your individual wins and losses. Bunch of more boys hadn’t heard from: Seminole, Nookah, Stirg, JJ, row3, Ken Strick, cutter, johnwaynesworld, and anyone else who wants to jump in and swim. We welcome your input.