
Falcons coach Mike Smith took a break from draft preparations to host the media in a golf tournament at Pine Isle Golf Course in Lake Lanier Islands, Ga.
No Pam Grier, Beyonce or Batman for this week’s mock draft.
With a shade over a week to go, the dust is starting to settle around the National Football League. We must get down to some football business.
The last few visits are being taken and teams are finalizing their draft boards. They are reviewing several scenarios that could unfold on Saturday, April 25.
One of very popular scenarios has USC linebacker Brian Cushing, once considered a top 10 pick, dropping to the Falcons at No. 24. It’s likely because the glut of defensive end/outside linebacker types and because of his red flags. If he’s there at 24, he’ll be holding up a red and black jersey around 8 p.m. next Saturday night. Check out some Cushing highlights.

Coach Mike Smith congratulates 790 The Zone's Chris Dimino after he won the closest to the pin contest.
Another key position to keep an eye on is wide receiver. A lot of teams are in the market for wide receivers and there could be a first round run at the position. After Texas Tech’s Michael Crabtree and Missouri’s Jeremy Macklin teams may start to panic.
Look for a couple of teams to make trades before the draft for Arizona’s Anquan Bolidin and Cleveland’s Braylon “Mr. Dropsies” Edwards.
If you see Jackson, Maybin and Brown go ahead of the Falcons, then Cushing is falling. He may free fall right into their laps.
Cushing is a fit for the Falcons 4-3 defense at either of the outside linebacker spots. He played strongside linebacker as a freshmen, junior and senior for the Trojans. He played defensive end as a sophomore.
Cushing would not come without any baggage. Rumors of steroid use started back when he was in Bergen (N.J.) Catholic High and followed him over his four years at USC. He was also involved in an incident in April of 2006 where he was handcuffed and put in the back sit of a cop car. He was never arrested, but the images where shown nationwide.
“Some scouts worry about Cushing being more of a body builder than a football player with his strict eating regimen and shredded physique, and durability long has been an issue,” wrote Nolan Wawrocki of Pro Football Weekly in their 2009 draft preview.
A couple other things to note, USC quarterback Mark Sanchez, Cushing’s old roommate, has jumped into the top five. Also, Tennessee defensive end Robert Ayers (12) and Ohio State wide receiver Brian Robiskie (29) make their debut in the mock draft this week. Oklahoma’s Duke Robinson (28) was in earlier, but had dropped out. He’s back this week.
Ohio State linebacker James Laurinaitis, Southern California’s Clay Matthews Jr. and North Carolina wide receiver Hakeem Nicks have dropped out of the first round.
LEDBETTER’S 2009 MOCK DRAFT 5.0
1. Detroit Lions: Matthew Stafford, QB, Georgia. Stafford has impressed the Lions. Now they can show him the money!
2. St. Louis Rams: Michael Crabtree, WR, Texas Tech. First stunner of the day. The Rams need receivers after letting Torry Holt go. (The link is to a nice article from our good buddy Allen Wilson of the Buffalo News.)
3. Kansas City Chiefs: Aaron Curry, LB, Wake Forest. The Chiefs get around to addressing their suspect defense.
4. Seattle Seahawks: Mark Sanchez, QB, USC. Didn’t play much in college, but can backup Matt Hasselbeck until he’s ready.
5. Cleveland Browns: Brian Orakpo, DE/OLB, Texas. Should fit nicely in Eric Mangini’s version of the 3-4.
6. Cincinnati Bengals: Jason Smith, OT, Baylor. Bengals look for some more protection for QB Carson Palmer.
7. Oakland Raiders: Eugene Monroe, OT, Virginia. He slides a little bit, but the Raiders will snap him up.
8. Jacksonville Jaguars: B.J. Raji, DT, Boston College. The Jags get an anchor for their defense
9. Green Bay Packers: Tyson Jackson, DE, LSU. Packers have to improve their defensive line.
10. San Francisco 49ers: Andre Smith, T, Alabama. With Sanchez off the board, Singletary decides his motivational skills can help Smith.
11. Buffalo Bills: Aaron Maybin, DE, Penn State. After picking up Terrell Owens, the Bills turn their attention to defense.
12: Denver Broncos (from Chicago): Robert Ayers, DE, Tennessee. Welcome to the DOL’s big board.
13. Washington Redskins: Michael Oher, T, Ole Miss. The Redskins take a major step towards rebuilding the the offensive line.
14. New Orleans Saints: Chris “Beanie” Wells, RB. Sean Payton is looking for someone to run the ball between the tackles.
15. Houston Texans: Jeremy Macklin, WR, Missouri. QB Matt Schaub get someone else to throw to other than super stud Andre Johnson.
16. San Diego Chargers: Eben Britton, OT, Arizona. Chargers elect to address their offensive line.
17. New York Jets: Josh Freeman, QB, Kansas State. Jets get their Brett Favre replacement.
18. Denver Broncos: Everette Brown, DE, Florida State. The Broncos stick with defense as they try to resurrect the Orange Crush
19. Tampa Bay Buccaneers: Malcolm Jenkins, CB, Ohio State. Is a good fit for Tampa’s Cover-2. He’s a solid corner, but doesn’t have elite speed to play a lot of man-to-man coverage.
20. Detroit Lions (from Dallas): Rey Maualuga, LB, Southern California. He slips, but doesn’t get past the Lions.
21. Philadelphia Eagles: Knowshon Moreno, RB, Georgia: It would be a reach to take a tackle here, so they make a value pick and get Brian Westbrook’s heir apparent. They’ll try to replace Tra Thomas later.
22. Minnesota Vikings: Percy Harvin, WR, Florida: Vikes add a play maker to go with Adrian Peterson.
23. New England Patriots: Vontae Davis, CB, Illinois. Pats decide that their locker room is strong enough to keep Davis focused.
24. Atlanta Falcons: Brian Cushing, LB, USC. Everything breaks right and the Falcons get their man. He’s could have shot at winning one of the outside linebacker spots.
25. Miami Dolphins: Darius Heyward-Bey, WR, Maryland. Has a big upside.
26. Baltimore Ravens: Peria Jerry, DT, Mississippi. A good fit up front for the Ravens.
27. Indianapolis Colts: Larry English, DE, Northern Illinois: Bill Polian finds another potential Pro Bowler late in the first round.
28. Philadelphia (from Carolina): Duke Robinson, OT, Oklahoma. Eagles elect to get their tackle here, even though he may be better suited to play guard.
29. New York Giants: Brian Robiskie, WR, Ohio State. The precise route runner will be expected to eventually replace Plaxico Burress. Check out the son of the Falcons receivers coach show out against Texas last season.
30. Tennessee Titans: Brandon Pettigrew, TE, Oklahoma State. His 40 times are scaring a lot of folks.
31. Arizona Cardinals: Donald Brown, RB, Connecticut. Edgerrin James will get his wish to be released after this pick.
32. Pittsburgh Steelers: Clint Sintim, LB, Virginia. A perfect fit after playing for Al Groh at Virginia.
FIRST ROUND FRINGE
James Laurinaitis, LB, Ohio State
Clay Matthews Jr., LB, USC
Evander Hood, DT, Missouri
Louis Delmas, FS, Western Michigan
Kenny Britt, WR, Rutgers
Alphonso Smith, CB, Wake Forest
Alex Mack, C, California
Max Unger, C, Oregon
Hakeem Nicks, WR, North Carolina
Would you like to see the Falcons select Cushing with the 24th pick? Should they pass on Cushing and take Sintim? Should the Falcons trade the pick and move back into the early part of the second round and select Western Michigan defensive back Louis Delmas?
273 comments Add your comment
what
April 17th, 2009
12:55 pm
first
JMar
April 17th, 2009
1:07 pm
This draft makes the most sense of any of your others. I think taking offense with our first pick would be a huge mistake. That said, I’d prefer any of the other defensive positions to linebacker if we’re absolutely keeping that first pick. So unless Vontae Davis happens to fall to us, I’d rather trade back for Delmas or Moore and get an extra pick to use on Hood or Smith or a LB.
kappellmeister
April 17th, 2009
1:17 pm
And by the way – does ANYBODY care who’s first? Whay aren’t you in school, ‘what’? I assume you must be twelve or something.
STUCK IN SC
April 17th, 2009
1:28 pm
I think DT is a bigger need. I also think all this talk of taking a LB with the first pick is a smoke screen.
Billy
April 17th, 2009
1:30 pm
There is NO WAY that Houston takes a receiver. Have you seen the defense?
Falcon Devil
April 17th, 2009
1:31 pm
I don’t think Peria Jerry will fall this far and if he does we should take him.
Falcon Devil
April 17th, 2009
1:32 pm
Agreed Billy, Houston has one of the best WR’s and a decent No. 2 definitely won’t go WR with their first pick.
Baba O'Riley
April 17th, 2009
1:35 pm
Huge mistake by Detroit. If I were them, I’d let the draft clock run out so St. Louis could pick first.
willie
April 17th, 2009
1:37 pm
Agreed….Houston has one of the top 2 WR’s (Fitz being the other) in the NFL and not much else. They certainly won’t take a WR. I think they would snag Cushing if he is there.
gdg73
April 17th, 2009
1:38 pm
I am with STUCK IN SC. DL should be our priority, CB after that. We are fine at LB. I doubt if Cushing could beat any of our startersright now anyway. We need a player that will come in and contribute, if not start. A CB or a DT in rotation with Lewis and Babs would pay immediate, dividends unlike a player at a position that is pretty much already set (Peterson, Lofton, Nicholas). We do need LBs for depth, but they can be found in the later rounds. I say Peria Jerry, Malcolm Jenkins, or trade down.
I care
April 17th, 2009
1:39 pm
First
STUCK IN SC
April 17th, 2009
1:41 pm
AMEN gdg73!
willie
April 17th, 2009
1:42 pm
Assuming Cushing is gone (which he will be), I still think the Falcons take Pettigrew with their first pick, whether we agree with it or not. It is one of our major needs. I don’t think they rank our needs by priority. They would just take highest overall on the board that fits one of our needs and that will be Pettigrew. So if they think Pettigrew is the 10th or 12th best player overall, they would have to grab him, even knowing how much help we need on defense. Having said that, I would prefer giving the late 2nd rounder for Tony Gonzalez. He is signed for 3 more seasons, looks to be in great shape and had one of his best years last year. That way, we could go defense with that 1st pick.
willie
April 17th, 2009
1:43 pm
FYI, Mel Kiper has Pettigrew ranked as the 7th best overall prospect currently. No way the Falcons can pass on that at 24 if we don’t do the Tony G. deal.
gdg73
April 17th, 2009
1:45 pm
Detroit could do the rest of the owners a favor and start negotiating with Andre Smith for the 1st pick and guarantee him $25 million and let the rest of the player’s salaries slide right behind his. He would jump at that money because his stock has slipped. But if you look at the guy on film, he is the best OT by far. I think he is getting a bad rap. People get to caught up focusing on the wrong things.
willie
April 17th, 2009
1:48 pm
Agreed…Andre Smith will be a beast.
Baba O'Riley
April 17th, 2009
1:52 pm
gdg73- that would be great for the nfl if it happened that way.
J-Mo
April 17th, 2009
2:01 pm
If he falls … I take Peria Jerry!!! I also trust 100% in whomever TD selects with our pick!!! He’ll do the right thing!!!
Ranjeet
April 17th, 2009
2:01 pm
Buc’s fan here. Just wanted to let you know the buccaneers no longer run the cover 2 system here. But i really hope we get a CB too!
Edward
April 17th, 2009
2:11 pm
I think that if Cushing falls down to the 24th spot, the Falcons should run to the podium with their pick. He fills an immediate need at the SAM backer. I know a lot of the bloggers on here think DT and CB, and I agree those are needs. BUT, at the 24th pick and the best available 1st round options for the Falcons biggest needs are:
Cushing at LB
Jerry at DT
Butler at CB
Pettigrew at TE
Delmas at S.
Out of that group, I think Cushing would be the best value at a need position.
STUCK IN SC
April 17th, 2009
2:16 pm
I think if they don’t have either a DT or CB on the board they like in the first round they will trade down and pickup another 2nd round pick and then take TG from KC at tight end. With the other 2nd round pick they take a DT/CB/LB.
JerseyFalcons
April 17th, 2009
2:20 pm
Let’s see who’s on that liost of steroids first…and if Cushing isn’t on it, then maybe think about it. I still think the TE from OKst is the ebst best…can block, has good hands, and gets the YAC. Plays much faster than his timed speed w/ shorts on.
Kenny Powers
April 17th, 2009
2:33 pm
Has anybody ever thought of C Alex Mack from CAL?
gdg73
April 17th, 2009
2:41 pm
Our main weaknesses on defense last year were our inability to pressure the quarterback (especially up the middle), the inability to stop the run (especially up the middle), and suspect DB play outside of Foxworth (now gone) and Coleman. Now please tell me how Brian Cushing helps us get better in either of those areas.
D3
April 17th, 2009
2:42 pm
DOL – YOU DA’ MAN! The best mock to date, not necessarily that I disagreed with your other picks, but this is the best. Good work. All that sun, golfin’, & fun must’ve been your muse.
This scenario is possible, but not extremely plausible. If he slips past Houston, then we got a chance, but I still think he’ll be gone by that point. New England is also a possibility for sure. The picks have been consistently OLB. There’s a reason for that. Picking late @ #24, you have to be fluid and volatile and be in a position to look hard at the deepest position of the draft class, and by far and away that is OLB. Raji is really the only lock @ DT, IMHO. Jerry is a stud and would fit nicely, but is similar to Babs in build, frame. We need a run-stuffer in the mold of Trey Lewis. Even though the top-end of DT is not deep, the 2nd round and below is very deep with talent. Overall nice pick.
Even though this scenario is unlikely, it does hint at a strategy that it looks to be an OLB/DE or Pettigrew. It looks as if Buffalo doesn’t make the T Jason Peters trade to Philly for their #21, then Pettigrew will likely slide to us(don’t think they will burn their #11 on him). After the second round, the talent is deep in several areas, and TD will do a masterful job mining the gems out. Obviously, I could be dead wrong, but all indications look to be going in the OLB or Pettigrew direction.
Of the linebacker, I believe that Cushing is the man over Matthews. Cushing is more in the mold of a run-stopper that needs to work on his coverage, Matthews is the reverse, a nickel corner that needs to work on his run-stopping. We have a great good nickel corner in Nicholas, which is WILL. Cushing is more of a SAM, which is what we’re looking for. Our draft board might look something like this:
1)Pettigrew
2)Maybin
3)Cushing
4)English…….projects as more of a run-stopping SAM/DE.
5)Matthews
7 DAYS, 21 HOURS, 17 MINS, & COUNTING!!!!!!!!!!!!
D3
April 17th, 2009
2:44 pm
gd – I understand where you’re coming from bro’, but have you forgotten the play of Brooking in the pass(all due respect), and Boley’s disappearing act.
Edward & Willie – right in line with you guys!
F.Y.I.
April 17th, 2009
2:44 pm
This was published March 20, 2007 by The Daily Trojan (USC News):
White Nation Group Makes National News
USC football player Clay Matthews Jr. and his teammates will not be punished by the university for their involvement in the “White Nation” Facebook group, according to the Los Angeles Times.
The controversy first reported in the Daily Trojan before spring break garnered national attention and prompted discussion on the limitations of jokes, racism and Facebook privacy.
“He’s done what he could to apologize,” coach Pete Carroll said about Matthews to the Times. “I think he’s taken all the right steps for anybody that it offended. And there was never any intent of that at all.”
The inside joke started when running backs coach and special teams coordinator Todd McNair jokingly referred to a group of Caucasian players on the kick-off team as “White Nation.”
“I made the name. The White Nation,” McNair said to the Times. “Just playfully, man.”
Clay Matthews Jr., a linebacker, created the Facebook group whose majors included teammates David Buehler, Brian Cushing, Dan Deckas and Dallas Sartz.
“This group is not for the faint of heart,” read the group’s description. “All members are athletes of Caucasian (sic) descent. DISCLAIMER: In no way are the following memebers (sic) intolerant of others, we are just doing our duty of protecting the Arian (sic) brotherhood.”
People outside of USC joined without Matthews’ knowledge and posted a graphic of a black baby in handcuffs with the caption “arrest black babies before they become criminals,” an image created by an online clothing company T-Shirt Hell.
Michael L. Jackson, vice president of student affairs, said the group reflects poorly on the university.
“While the group was evidently created as an offshoot to joking between races among teammates at USC, this joke was clearly taken to an improper length,” he said to the Times. “The action of the students involved goes against the core values of what it means to be a member of the Trojan Family – and doesn’t represent our diverse community.”
Stefanie Gopaul, a freshman majoring in health promotion and disease prevention studies, heard about the “White Nation” group and started the rebuttal Facebook group “Clay Matthews (USC football player) expresses anti-black sentiment.”
The day after the Daily Trojan article, the Los Angeles Times reported the story. Eventually, CBS, Sports Illustrated, Drudge Report and the Orange County Register also picked up the story.
The original article has nearly 300 online comments and more than 300,000 page views, the most in the history of the Daily Trojan’s website.
Many comments expressed the view that despite being a joke, the group is still offensive.
“I’ve frankly never heard of a ‘joke’ like this,” wrote a website commenter who identified himself as Tim. “This is a problem. We should see it and talk about it. The inability to explain why this is supposed to be funny is why the Klan always wore hoods.”
The spelling errors in the Facebook group descriptions also prompted comments from readers.
“Before we all get our panties in a bunch, I think we need to send the football team to a hooked on phonics class FIRST,” wrote a reader who identified himself as Andy.
Discussion about the issue erupted on the blogosphere and online message boards.
The athletic department and football team are putting the matter behind them.
“I think I speak for the whole team when I say we respect Clay, and we have his best interests at heart and we just hope it all goes away,” football player Sedrick Ellis said to the Times.
Xynox
April 17th, 2009
2:44 pm
24th!
Nookah
April 17th, 2009
2:47 pm
Everytime I think of Cushing I remember Todd Marinovich and guess which university he went to? I am just not feeling him. I hope I’m wrong especially if we take him. If we don’t then fine.
Still sticking with Conner!!!!
Go Falcons!!!
Nuff respect everytime!!!
Gatorzone
April 17th, 2009
2:49 pm
Take Peria Jerry in round one and Cornelius Ingram in round 2.
Mark
April 17th, 2009
2:49 pm
I don’t think we will be picking anybody at number 24, but trading out of that slot to hopefully pick up an extra 2nd and 3rd round picks and then taking Delmas with the first of our 2nd rounders and then after Delmas I think we will be taking Ziggy (DE)!!
tbhawksfan
April 17th, 2009
2:57 pm
I say Jerry. In one pick the DL is legit. We have been pushed around long enough.
My biggest problem with the Cards playoff game last season was the way they manhandled our lines. If he’s good enough for the Ravens, he must be good enough for the DT starved Falcons.
Last season, nearly everyone was demanding Dorsey, D and more D. What did TD do? Ryan (brillant pick
and moved up for Baker. That move might also start a trend in the NFL. Draft your Franchise QB and get a OT to go with him. Didn’t even pick a DT!
I don’t anticipate a repeat. Jerry, D and more D.
#24: Jerry DT
#55: Chung SS
#90: Barnes CB
#125: Maiva OLB
#138: Morrah TE
#143: Shaughnessy DE
#176: Vasquez OG
JG
April 17th, 2009
3:21 pm
Kenny Powers<
I keep posting that Center is a need and your the only one to seem to agree.. I have been listening to a lot of rumors that TD is thinking Alex Mac and that is his first pick and that is why he sounds so definite. Beacuse he knows he will be there…
I know everyone wants defense, but that is big Anchor and only makes our O line better, We do have Trey Lewis and they are gonna give him a shot on the D line, then we will pick a D line or safety in the 2 Round.
But remember SMITTY and TD like Big O Lines and Big D lines and McClure was undersized and whinning.. Say good by to him.
Hollywould
April 17th, 2009
3:36 pm
They have already signed a center. The starter for the Rams last year.
Defense first/ no gonzalez, no pettigrew, defense!!!
Nookah
April 17th, 2009
3:52 pm
Apart from Barwin my other gem is TE Dan Gronkowski, Maryland. I mentioned him a couple of blogs ago. He’s a sleeper in this draft.
JG, now you have me thinking. That’s a pick that makes you say hmmmmmm!!!! Nice choice. Now that would really be “smokin’ mirrors” and really outside the box. In fact I kinda like the choice. Not saying I necesarily agree with you but I really never thought that way before but it does have some merit. Can’t wait.
Go Falcons!!!
Nuff respect everytime!!!
JG
April 17th, 2009
3:55 pm
Romberg is a back up, he wont last all season. He wasn’t signed as starter. He Only started last year on the rams due to injury. He is not long term solution at Center. That is why they contacted Newberry also. But he is Knee is still not ready.
JG
April 17th, 2009
4:00 pm
I didn’t think about it either, Nooka.
But with all the searching I do and rumblings I am hearing, I am starting to see signs of this.
I don’t know anymore, I would have to say. ” In TD I trust ” and I am sure we will all have some interesting blogs on Monday the 27th.
Go Falcons!
Nookah
April 17th, 2009
4:03 pm
JG, if Mack is the man then I’ll e-mail you a Red Stripe. If Barwin is the man then I just enjoy my 15 seconds in the sun!!!!
Go Falcons!!!!
Nuff respect everytime!!!
JG
April 17th, 2009
4:16 pm
Deal,
If he is the man.
I will send you a six pack!
HA!
April 17th, 2009
4:17 pm
39!
Tyger
April 17th, 2009
4:43 pm
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Tyger
April 17th, 2009
4:46 pm
Colts Take a Look at SEC Sacks Leader
By Ed Thompson
Posted Apr 25, 2006
Despite having lots of proven and promising talent at the defensive end position, the Colts couldn’t resist taking a closer look at Mississippi State’s Willie Evans this past weekend.
ColtPower has learned that the Indianapolis Colts worked out SEC sacks leader Willie Evans this past Saturday. The Mississippi State defensive end terrorized SEC quarterbacks last season, posting 15 sacks. That represented exactly half of his team’s total sacks for the year.
marko
April 17th, 2009
5:03 pm
Orlando that’s an interesting scenario you’ve painted. I don’t see much chance of it happening though. Cushing has been invited to New York next Saturday. They don’t do that unless they think that you’re going early.
This may sound like sour grapes because Cushing isn’t supposed to be there when we draft, but I’d rather have Matthews. He’s faster, better in coverage and more effective blitzing the quarterback. I won’t pretend that Cushing’s not better prepared to start, but Peterson gives us the Luxury of baby sitting Matthews till he can step up his tackling a bit. Anyway, I feel there’s a good chance Matthews has the better career. If we still had both on the board at twenty–four it would be a tough choice. Matthews’s remains the only one we have a legitimate crack at, and I won’t be crying in my beer if we get him.
Anyway, Orlando you’re to be congratulated this is you’re best effort yet. You’ve got Stafford where he belongs at the top of the draft. He should be signed by the time your final effort comes out. Answer this one if you would. Why does a kid, that scored 38 on his wonderlic, want to play for Detroit anyway?
eastpointacgm
April 17th, 2009
5:19 pm
After many heated discussions with my fellow (A)rm (C)hair (G)eneral (M)anagers, I have come to like using, a: 3rd or later round pick on TG or drafting Pettigrew at #24. Here’s a couple of reasons why. 1) We have no one to go across the middle consistently. No one at all. So a very good veteran TE or a potentially good rookie TE will open up the passing game so much more. 2) With a pro bowl WR, a very solid #2 option, and a very promising #3, plus a brusing & attacking rushing game, who/how do you defend this offense when add a dangerous threat at TE. The name of the game is scrore more points than the other team. LET’S AVERAGE 30+ A GAME. 3) MM offense will use the TE more when the Falcons get a TE that can open up the playbook or cause MM to draft plays designed for the TE. 4) The defense should not be that bad where as we can stop anybody. I believe MS is a master at getting the most out of the players he has. So who fields this team on defense when Sept. rolls around will come to play and will play hard for MS. IMHO I think we should complete the offense first with a serious threat at TE.
SeminoleWarrior
April 17th, 2009
5:28 pm
Eight days to go my brothers!! D-Led, I can agree with you on this pick. The trio of Cushing (SLB), Lofton (MLB), and Freeman (3rd round pick @ WLB) would be one heck of a trio of LBs for a long time for the Falcons. Cushing and Freeman would significantly upgrade pass defense at the position as well as bring solid effort vs. the run. Throw in TE Shwan Nelson in the second round and we are off to a h*** of a good draft class.
SeminoleWarrior
April 17th, 2009
5:36 pm
Hey Tyger, Willie Evans is already on the Falcons’ roster. Where did you get the report that the Colts were looking at him?
The pick at #24 will be one of the following: Matthews, Laurinaitis, or Cushing and that person will be the season opening started at SAM.
SeminoleWarrior
April 17th, 2009
5:42 pm
Marko my brother, Cushing has the edge in pass defense. I saw that on the dish this past season. But Matthews is improving in that era. Either would be fine. And adding Freeman who is fine in coverage would augment the scheme as well. Freeman can play all three LB positions, a dimension of versatility that Smitty seems to like on defense.
SeminoleWarrior
April 17th, 2009
5:46 pm
Dl should not be addressed in the first round unless you are sure to get Raji. Value is there later; Terrance Taylor is a major lug in the middle who feel off last year as a result of confusion by the defensive staff at Michigan. Roy Miller was a beast in the middle for Texas but was overshadowed by Orakpo. Personnally, I would love to see the size, strength, and nastiness of Taylor next to Babs on the line. That would open things up for Davis, Anderson, Abe, and Biermann.
wxwax
April 17th, 2009
5:58 pm
I just worry that Cushing is a steroid baby.
Too much risk. Pass.
SeminoleWarrior
April 17th, 2009
6:00 pm
Here is my mock draft, rounds one through four. Most of my peers in here know that I was advocating for Patrick Chung to be my pick at 24 but I’m going to trust that DeCoud is ready to step in. With that key assumption, here I go:
1) LB James Laurinaitis (SLB); 2) CB Mike Mickens 3) LB Marcus Freeman (WLB), and 4) DT Terrance Taylor.
Speed, pass defense skills, versatility, and leadership are what have drawn me to the pair from Ohio State. Mickens has skills that are outstanding in either man/man or zone. Taylor is a beast and a load in the middle. Extremely powerful and will not be moved in the middle.
Shamus Thacker
April 17th, 2009
6:08 pm
It’s Friday; think I’ll get liquored-up and take a stab at my own mock draft.
This was a good one DOL! Best so far!
KC in Smyrna
April 17th, 2009
6:08 pm
There are several 3rd round or later DTs that will make an impact in the NFL. Ron Brace, Vance Walker, Darryl Richards, the guy from UGA, LSU has a DT, etc. I’d rather solidify 2 positions in this draft to effectively remove them from discussion in future years.
The DB draft is very weak this year so I would take those guys late. I would like to grab a TE and LB early. I’m up for a combination of Cushing or Pettigrew. If we get neither, then I prefer to trade down and pick up an early 2nd and 3rd selection. If we can trade #24 for (2) 2nd round picks, that is my preference. There is not a lot of difference in #24 and number #35 IMO. Our last 2 2nd round picks, Curtis Lofton and Blalock.
SeminoleWarrior
April 17th, 2009
6:09 pm
JG, we have a 310 pound center on ther roster that was the nation’s best coming out of LSU in 2004…Ben Wilkerson. Romberg and Stepanovich are both 300 pounders as well so I think we are set with depth and a potential starter at center. Average NFL size for the position is 6′2″ and 305.
SeminoleWarrior
April 17th, 2009
6:12 pm
But I will grant you this, JG. Given our desire to be a power running team first, I will give you center to check out. Alabama’s Antoine Caldwell. Big man @ 6′3, 310 and he is quite effective in both run and pass protection in the middle. He would be available in the middle rounds I think.
gregglegg
April 17th, 2009
6:14 pm
D-Led –
Any truth to the rumor that McClure is boycotting offseason workouts because he wants a new contract and if he doesn’t get one he’ll either retire or holdout? Hook a brutha up if you will please.
–gregglegg
Shamus Thacker
April 17th, 2009
6:15 pm
Don Banks at SI has us taking Pettigrew, with Rey Maualuga going to the Ravens AFTER US at 26. Cushing has dropped out of the first round on his board.
SeminoleWarrior
April 17th, 2009
6:16 pm
Feeling you KC. Blalock and Lofton will be anchors for their positions for years to come. I think Dahl may walk next season, allowing us to move Clabo inside and perhaps Renardo Foster to the right tackle position. When he was healthy, Foster appeared to be a beast in the running game and flashed some potential as well at left tackle. Check out this line for 2010:
LT Baker: 315
LG: Blalock: 330
C: Wilkerson: 310
RG: Clabo 330
RT: Foster: 335
That is beef and a powerful line.
WR
April 17th, 2009
6:18 pm
Nookah, we are on the same page with Cushings, except I think of Brian Bosworth. Take Pettigrew at 24 or try to trade out for an additional second and third round pick. The panic over the defense is understandable, but it is unlikely there will be a pick at 24 that will offset the needs on defense. Besides I think the defense is going to be in better shape than we think, we need to add a quality DT in the later rounds (Fili Moala or Sammie Lee Hill), a linebacker or two, and a small school stud corner that teams have shied away from because of competition level for development, anyone no of any. The defenses of the schedule this year are beast, and offense is the strength of this team at this point, a good ball-controlling offense, keeps a young developing defense off the field, Pettigrew completes the offense.
Shamus Thacker
April 17th, 2009
6:19 pm
I’m sorry, Banks has Cushing going to the Texans at 15, and Clay Matthews going to the Bucks at 19.
D. Orlando Ledbetter
April 17th, 2009
6:30 pm
Been a busy day. Definitely don’t have my regular season speed. But got a lot done and a lot of draft info is flowing.
KENNY POWERS: 24 is too high for Mack.
NOOKAH: I see some of the stuff and I’m thinking Brian Bosworth. Don’t see the impact plays on that highlight reel either.
MARKO: There is going to be an OLB that slips big time. One scenario — the one I’m rolling with — has Cushing as that guy. The other has Everette Brown slipping, but not as far. We — the Sporting News correspondents — are in the middle of an e-mail mock draft and Cushing went 19th to Tampa Bay. Maualuga went to Detroit at 20 (just like I have it) and Knowshon went to the Eagle at (21) j just like I have it.) My man Sean “Jean” Jensen is on the clock and I’m up after New England. Thanks for the kind words. It’s just a week away and I have to be on my regular season A game.
SHAMUS THACKER: Thanks for the kind words!!
row3
April 17th, 2009
6:34 pm
I’m not buying in on Alex Mack at #24, just in case, can anybody post his combine numbers.
WR
April 17th, 2009
6:43 pm
D-Led, did you notice my post, we seem to be seeing the same thing in Cush, so why take him at 24, if Pettigrew, Jerry and even Matthews falls as you have it either would be a better pick, Cushing has bust written all over him and after watching tapes of USC, Cushing really doesn’t stand out as much as you want a game changing linebacker to do, which is why I think his stock is falling.
SeminoleWarrior
April 17th, 2009
6:46 pm
Row3, he was okay at the combine but did not dazzle. I’m with you. He would not be my choice at 24.
http://www.nfl.com/combine/top-performers
SeminoleWarrior
April 17th, 2009
6:48 pm
WR, I feel ya. My man may be dropping but he will be the consistent play maker we desire. 1) LB James Laurinaitis (SLB); 2) CB Mike Mickens 3) LB Marcus Freeman (WLB), and 4) DT Terrance Taylor.
Falcon Devil
April 17th, 2009
6:49 pm
SeminoleWarrior, you seem to be well researched but I have to say you are beyond crazy. James Laurnitus as our No 1 pick?!!! MLB is one of our few locked defensive positions with Curtis Lofton. There is zero chance our first round pick will be from Ohio State.
SeminoleWarrior
April 17th, 2009
6:51 pm
I’m breaking right for a while; got to take the First Lady out for Chinese. One must keep peace in the valley right, LOL. I’ll check in on the posse later.
SeminoleWarrior
April 17th, 2009
6:55 pm
Falcon Devil, he has the versatility to play the SLB position. Do not sleep on him or Freeman. Both will be consistent and solid for years to come. Remember, Smitty’s defenses are not about star power; they are about consistency and working together as a team. Their production exceeded that of their higher-acclaimed USC brethern. No need to feel that they would be any more of a bust set than the USC corps. But love the challenge in terms of our thoughts. Thanks bro…
row3
April 17th, 2009
7:03 pm
SeminoleWarrior.. Thanks for the link.
tony
April 17th, 2009
7:06 pm
Clint Sintim All The Way Baby!
D3
April 17th, 2009
7:30 pm
Wonderful Friday evening boys! The best part of the weekend. Brews, good food, and draft talk. Doesn’t get any better than this. Just a quick hit, and some good analysis later.
-Cushing will be gone
-Matthews gone to NE, at the least
-The Pettigrew Orange Kool-Aid has infiltrated the synopsis of my brain
Update: Buffalo traded T Jason Peters to Philly for their 28th pick.
So unless Buffalo packages a deal to move ahead of us, our boy Pettigrew should be there for the taking.
Just go to the podium, make it official, and put our young OFF into overdrive. Gem out D-Talent the rest of the way. TD has shown an innate ability to do that.
The Sierra Nevada Summerfest is pretty good, but didn’t quite meet expectations. Maybe because its not so D@– hoppy. Nookah, Red Stripe is still the shiz! And on that note………….
7 DAYS, 16 HOURS, 29 MINS, & COUNTING!!!!!!!!!!!!!
JJ
April 17th, 2009
7:41 pm
ST. PAULI GIRL!!!! She blue red stripe, eh mon!
Zup
April 17th, 2009
7:45 pm
No Cushing! He has to be a juicer. Jerry would make me very merry.
JJ
April 17th, 2009
7:48 pm
Apart from the draft, do you guys think we’ll get the same, lame-ass fox “sports commentaters” that we had last yr.? I beleive they were the “4th” team but man, they stunk! I’m hoping that fox upgrades us to the 2nd, or 3rd tv bitches. Thoughts? Anyone else turn off tv sound and went local radio?
JJ
April 17th, 2009
7:52 pm
Football + beer + women + food = my falcons blog ( and golf..lol)
Nookah
April 17th, 2009
7:52 pm
D Led, WR, I agree with what you guys say, just as I implied in my earlier post. There is something about Cushing that is not resting well with me. Call it a gut feeling. Thanks WR and D Led for the right comparison in Brian Bosworth. However, I was thinking more of the nutritional aspect and the so-called special preparation that Moranovich went through before he came to the NFL. I feel the same thing with this guy. Just not feeling him.
Tony, I have been doing some thinking and you beat me to the punch. I know I have been saying Conner Barwin all the time but ever since JG raised the issue of little experience I really did some more research and have come to the conclusion that Conner Barwin at #24 would be a slight reach. I can admit when I’m wrong. Clint Sintim is going to be the man and Conner (if he is still there can be taken in the 2nd round, although I think New England will take him if he is there).
I have to change my mind and agree with Tony and D Led’s last Mock 4.0……..Sintim is the man indeed!!! He can do a number of different things too. Just what the Dynamic Duo likes. Someone mentioned we may be trying to get TG for a lesser pick like a 3rd round or so. If we can swing that to a 3rd round I say pull the trigger.
1st round: Clint Sintim
2nd round: Conner Barwin/Michael Johnson – either one I’d be cool
3rd round: to KC for TG
4th round: Roy Miller
I’ll leave it at that.
Go Falcons!!
Nuff respect evertime!!!!
Nookah
April 17th, 2009
7:55 pm
D3, thanks for giving my beer some props. You know you the man!!!! Don’t like Cushing though, but we can agree to disagree!!!
Go Falcons!!! That’s what we all agree on!!
Nuff respect everytime!!!
Dominic Hughes
April 17th, 2009
8:21 pm
DOL: 24 may be too high for Alex Mack but I believe the Falcons could trade down to take him somewhere between there and the Steelers 32nd pick. Because if the Falcons don’t take him, the Steelers surely will.
If the story I’m reading on other websites about Todd McClure boycotting voluntary workouts in pursuit of a new contract are true – drafting a center becomes a priority. The Falcons will surely bring in a free agent to start but it sounds like we need to find a long-term replacement for McClure sooner rather than later.
dacha
April 17th, 2009
8:49 pm
Hey Guys,
D-LED: I really like your mock, keep it up! Here’s my own that I’ve been constructing. Its got a few surprises and I’m sure that some people will not like the choices, but I’m just trying to shake things up.
Round 1 — #24: LB James Laurenaitis – Value has decreased because he came back as a senior, last year he would have been a top 10 pick. He has the versatility to play all three LB positions on all three downs. That has T.D. and crew (silently) salivating.
Round 2 — #55: CB Alphonso Smith – May not be around for us to snag, but I’m still dreaming. Has ideal size and adequate speed. Was the anchor of a weak defense and will give Von Hutchins tight competition.
Round 3 — #90: LB Marcus Freeman – Have to agree with my man, SeminoleWarrior here. Freeman has the same versatility as Laurenaitis. Those two can interchange on the edges depending on the situation the opposing offense displays. Add them with Lofton and you have a LB core!
Round 4 — #125: TE Cameron Morrah – T.D. finds our TE of the future here. Tons of upside with this kid. Great work ethic, lots of heart, lanky body, good hands for Matt Ryan, could be perfect with a little NFL strength training
Round 5 — #138: QB Graham Harrell – Call me crazy but I see us drafting a QB late. We only signed Redman for two years and DJ might be in a packaged deal sometime soon. If the kid can translate to the NFL, he could be a steal here later on.
Round 5 — #143: DT Myron Pryor – Here’s the big interior lineman we’ve been looking for. Had flashes of greatness in the tough SEC.
Round 6 — #196: OG Andy Kemp – 6′5” 315 lb., needs motivation which our locker room can provide
Ken Strickland
April 17th, 2009
9:14 pm
How many more days are there before the draft? I’m getting so worked up waiting for it I’ve started addressing these Haters just to get my mind off the draft. At this point I don’t really care who or what we pick at #24, I’m just ready for us to pick. If TD and Smitty think addressing our pass rush is our #1 DEF priority, then a LB/DE type of player will be our 1st pick. If addressing our rushing DEF is the #1 priority, then DT will be our #1 priority. I don’t think TE, SS and CB are at the top of our priority list.
SeminoleWarrior
April 17th, 2009
9:20 pm
Dacha, thanks for feeling me on the LB corps. It will be one of the best in the NFL in a couple of years if they go this route. I like Alphonso Smith but I think our CB need to be a tad larger, thus my choice of Mike Mickens or Jairus Byrd. K Strick and Big Ray have been high on Morrah; I personally like Nelson of USM. The Harrell pick is a little of a surprise; I think we will keep Redman for several years to come. He seems to have accepted his role and he knows that he is stable here for as long as he desires to be.
SeminoleWarrior
April 17th, 2009
9:27 pm
K Strick, I’m with you. Laurinaitis and Freeman would bring the speed and tenacity at OLB to improve both facets (run and pass defense). Add in a quality cover corner and we should note improvement. A mid round selection like Terrance Taylor or your man Sammie Hill will handle the DT situation. I love Taylor’s size and his incredible strength. His ability to handle double teams with ease is important as it will free Babs or Lewis to penetrate underneath.
SeminoleWarrior
April 17th, 2009
9:28 pm
Nookah, the KC trade deal is a dead issue. We will go the way of the draft and take a TE.
irvin
April 17th, 2009
10:03 pm
The TG trade could still be on. It might just be a draft day trade.
JG- I’m with you on drafting a center. I like Max Unger in round two a little better. He’s more well rounded and would save a roster spot with his versatility.
Nookah
April 17th, 2009
10:51 pm
Seminole, how sure are you on that? No chance of a draft day trade? Well, if that’s the case I guess I’ll have to review my picks. I defer to you my brother.
As I said before all we want to say is………
Go Falcons!!!
Stirg d'Nahsif
April 17th, 2009
11:08 pm
I’m clutching a Stripe, Nookah. Where You at?
Big Ray
April 18th, 2009
12:46 am
STIRG,
Don’t quote me on that 3-technique thing. It’s what I’ve learned and what I’ve been told, so I could still be wrong. But I think that’s the mainstream definition.
Interesting stuff about an OLB falling to us, huh? I’m not really worried about Cushing/Matthews/whoever. I think if these guys are not the real deal, but juicing “workout warriors,” TD and his crew will know. They’ll find out. And remember, TD was over scouting for a while. He knows his stuff, and won’t take shortcuts. He’s the creator of the draft matrix! Well, his own matrix, anyway. But anyhow, somebody that goes to that much trouble ALWAYS does his homework. ALWAYS.
And there’s another thing that brings comfort: remember how he separated emotion from business with some of our dearly departed veterans? This guy isn’t going to get a case of the giddy idiocy on draft day like Al Davis. I’m not worried. Having said that, I do have my own concerns about Cushing being a juicer/work-out warrior/body-builder type, rather than an instinctive football player who happens to also be strong and a good athlete.
Speaking of which, that’s why guys like Laurinaitis are such good bets in the draft. He’s clearly a football player with good instincts. Teddy Bruschi and some others were called “too small,” but they were always right where they needed to be on the field. Laurinaitis strikes me as one of those guys. Mind you, that doesn’t mean I want him here, but I think he’s going to be just fine as a ball player. That, and I’m not sure I like Cushing better than Matthews…
D. ORLANDO LEDBETTER,
Nice mock, man. Things are going to get even more interesting in the coming days, I think. And I absolutely agree about the WR position. I’m CERTAIN there will be a run on that position in the draft, and I was saying this earlier to one of my fellow Falcon fans here. This can only help us. There are, and have been red flags on Cushing. I have faith that Dimitroff and crew will know what the deal is, and calculate the risk appropriately. No worries….
D3,
I think there will be a run on wide receiver first, which will then trigger a run on linebacker. I could have that backwards, LOL! But we’ll see. If the WR run happens first, then we have a good shot at a good OLB, because there are still some top level offensive lineman who will go in the early and mid parts of the first round. Here are my thoughts: 4 or 5 wide receivers, 2 quarterbacks (we know who they are), 1 running back, 4 offensive lineman, and the most obvious/top rated defenders will all go, causing others to fall.
I think the run on receivers happens for several reasons, but most notably three in particular: Teams that just signed “new” quarterbacks also need new targets for them to work with. Cutler will need good targets. So will Hasselbeck. Teams like Detroit and whoever else ends up drafting a quarterback for the sake of starting, will want to pair their new face of the franchise with a young receiving fella who they can build a “from NFL birth” relationship. Those are the best kind of quarterback/receiver relationships. And then there’s the teams who may trade their existing receivers. Teams Braylon Edwards’ team. They’ll need a replacement. Then of course, there teams who simply came into the draft needing a receiver anyway.
So, you’ll see a run. I’m sure of it. Well, as sure as a layman like me can be…So, I’m breaking down our chances of getting a really good fit for our offense in my next post.
oldbrave
April 18th, 2009
1:07 am
nobaby knows jack right now everybody just shooting off mouths, let the men who earn the money make the choices.Its theirs jobs on the line so am sure they will do their best and if last years was endication on their ablities then lets trust them and keep our mouhts closed
Big Ray
April 18th, 2009
1:28 am
Okay, plenty of teams will need receivers. There will be a run on this position, but whether or not it will be as strong a run as the linebacker position remains to be seen. So I’ll start at the WR position first:
Crabtree and Maclin will probably be the first to go, I think. As Ledbetter says, there could be a quick panic right after that. So, here come Nicks, Harvin, and Heyward-Bey. But you also cannot rule out Britt and Robiskie, though both guys might be 2nd round picks. Still that’s up to SEVEN receivers. You almost have to factor in Pettigrew here as well. Yes, I know, many of us want that guy, but consider why he may not fall to us: what do you go after when you already have a good pass-catching running back, but there are no receivers in sight that you want? You got it: the best-rated tight end in the draft. So, that’s really EIGHT guys that could push things. Well, we’ll scale it back to SIX, since two of those receivers aren’t necessarily really guys worth grabbing in the top 23 picks.
Next is the two quarterbacks, Sanchez and Stafford. Easy. You know they’re going early. The X-factor in this segment is undoubtedly Josh Freeman. Where does he go? Who cares! It will likely be 1st round, so it will be earlier than we pick. So, add THREE more guys gone before we pick. So now my theoretical total is up to NINE.
Offensive lineman. Jason Smith, Andre Smith, Michael Oher, and Eugene Monroe. All gone before #24, and here’s where a dark horse run could happen. Add just a pinch of panic, and you’ll watch Alex Mack, Max Unger, and Eben Britton go, too. Maybe even Phillip Loadholt. The reason? Teams who wish to protect their new investments at QB. However, I don’t really think this will happen, and if it does, then it will only be one or at most two guys who sneak into the top 23. So, my guess here is FOUR O-lineman go before our pick, bringing my total number of picks to THIRTEEN.
Running backs. Knowshon Moreno won’t last long. Beanie Wells might not either. I’m rolling with just the first guy, though. Total is now FOURTEEN.
Defenders. Again, this is dicey. There are guys who almost certainly stay up on the draft boards. Like Aaron Curry, Brian Orakpo, Malcolm Jenkins, B.J. Raji, Rey Maualuga, and Aaron Maybin. That’s SIX guys right off the bat. But then you have to add in other guys who are shooting up draft boards, both quickly and little-by-little. This is due in part to the changes of teams’ defensive schemes, and the specific needs that they have, as well as certain draftees that fit those needs. Add in a lack of depth in versatile positions in the defensive line segment, and suddenly certain guys come at a premium. Those guys include Tyson Jackson, Robert Ayers, Everette Brown, and perhaps Peria Jerry. Add that to the first SIX defenders I mentioned for a total of TEN. Now add THAT to the previous FOURTEEN, and where are we? At TWENTY-FOUR, and that would INCLUDE OUR PICK. So, one of the guys I decided to roll with as a sure pick would have to fall off that list. We’ll say it’s Peria Jerry, just for the heck of it.
So guess who’s left? Jerry, Matthews, Cushing, Vontae Davis, English, Laurinaitis….not a bad list, eh? And remember, I mentioned guys, but left them off the actual count. Consider that most of those guys weren’t linebackers from the list of 24.
Now, imagine a run at linebacker, AFTER the run at wide receiver, and the game is on. I really think the top O-line, receiver, and the can’t-miss/need-specific defenders that I mentioned will all go first. The only real “casualty” in that group for us is Pettigrew.
Guys, I don’t think we’ll be stuck with a bad pick at 24, assuming we keep the pick. I really don’t. I think it’s going to be better than we anticipate. The second round is where we might hurt a little. I want to see us take a safety, and I think there will be an early run on those. So if we’re going to trade, we might be best served trading up in the 2nd round, or trading out of it altogether for something that will really help. That something could very well be Tony Gonzalez. Or not. Just a thought…
Big Ray
April 18th, 2009
1:30 am
“nobaby knows jack right now everybody just shooting off mouths, let the men who earn the money make the choices.Its theirs jobs on the line so am sure they will do their best and if last years was endication on their ablities then lets trust them and keep our mouhts closed”
That’s what a blog is here for, you clown. To speculate. To shoot our mouths off. Which is exactly what YOU just did. Unless of course, you call THAT “pearls of wisdom.”
Big Ray
April 18th, 2009
1:37 am
Interesting. I see DraftCountdown has us picking Evander “Ziggy” Hood at #24. And guess who our pick is in the 2nd round? Tight end Shawn Nelson. They have us taking Marcus Freeman in the 3rd.
I think they’ve been talking to Stirg over a few Red Stripes.
No seriously, go to the website (DraftCountdown.com). The explanation for these two picks are interesting reading. I won’t relate the whole thing (they say we’re high on Hood and Louis Delmas), but I wonder if it’s anything like the info/buzz that D. Ledbetter’s getting?
FALCONSHATER2009
April 18th, 2009
5:25 am
WHAT THE FALCONS NEED TO DRAFT IS AN ENTIRE DEFENSE. YOU GUYS LOST LAYER MILLOY AND KEITH BROOKING TWO KEY PIECES TO YOUR DEFENSE. YOU ALSO NEED A VETERAN QB BECAUSE MATT RYAN IS NOT GOING TO SAVE YOUR BELOVED FRANCHISE. THINK IN THE FUTURE PEOPLE. LAST SEASON IS DONE AND BY YOUR SCHEDULE I DONT SEE YOU GUYS GOING 11-5 MAYBE MORE LIKE 5-11.
Edward
April 18th, 2009
5:32 am
If you guys want to see something interesting, SI.com has their draft grades up for all players. Its pretty interesting how they did theirs compared to most of the other draft sites out there. For example: in the OLB position they have Connor Barwin ahead of Clay Matthews, Jr. and only .07 of a point behind Cushing. In the S position they have Rashad Johnson rated #1. At TE. their top 5 is Pettigrew, Cook, Coffman, Nelson and Ingram with Morrah rated at #15. And one of the bigger surprises is at CB. They have Captain Munnerlyn ranked higher than Darius Butler.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/2009/draft/breakdowns/by_position/QB.html
Edward
April 18th, 2009
5:42 am
The other interesting part of the SI.com grading is that according to their “grading system” they list no “Franchise Prospects” in this draft and only the top 14 of all players in the draft rated would be considered “Quality Prospects”.
SO Refugee
April 18th, 2009
6:37 am
Cushing will not fall past New Orleans. Jay Payton has said many times he likes USC players and their experience with pro-style offense and defense and their readiness to play.
WILLSTER
April 18th, 2009
7:07 am
OL,GOOD ARTICLE,WORKING TO FIND THE WINNER IN THE KD RIGHT NOW , THE FALCONS WILL GET MALALUGA SOME HOW IN A TRADE IF HE FALLS TO 15 OR MORE,if the falcons do not get someone on the corners that can cover this season wont matter.
marko
April 18th, 2009
8:03 am
Morning all looks like we’ve arrived at T minus seven. I don’t think I’ll speculate about what Thomas and Smitty are giving us for NFL Christmas this year. I’m pretty sure that I’m going to be surprised when I open the box. Last year I had wished for a brand new Dorsey. I was more than a little peeved when I opened the box and found this Ryan thing instead. Well that damned Ryan thing didn’t turn out so terrible after all. Not that the Dorsey wouldn’t have been a pretty cool toy. Just think of all the neat stuff you can do with a new Dorsey. You can blow up offensive lines, you can destroy pesky running backs and best of you can scare those sissy quarterbacks.
Speaking of sissy Quarterbacks can you imagine how disappointed I was to tear off the bows rip open the box and find this goofy Ryan thing smiling at me. What the hell can you do with a quarterback for the most part they hand the ball off and throw incompletions. Well Guess what? I was wrong a well functioning quarterback doesn’t just throw incompletions and hand off the ball till the punter takes over. In his first NFL regular season start this Ryan thing completes His first pass. It gets better; he completed It to a player wearing the same colored jersey he was wearing. Next thing I know this Jenkins kid that had caught the pass was dancing in the end zone. Some body told me that we’d had Jenkins for a couple of years. Funny why hadn’t we to thrown him before? Before the season was over Ryan finds Roddy White, Harry Douglas and lot of other guys that I didn’t know we had. I thought that a quarterback’s job was to hold onto the ball until the play broke down, and then run for his life. This new touchdown throwing version was a vast improvement over what I was used to. I’m even considering liking quarterbacks.
Well the dogwoods are blooming, Tiger’s swinging clubs and the ponies are about to run in Kentucky. That means it’s Christmas time again. This year I’m asking Santa Dimitroff for a brand new Matthews. Don’t forget the batteries please. In the event Thomas doesn’t see fit to give me my Matthews, I’m open to the idea that I might wind up liking what I get anyway.
Tman
April 18th, 2009
9:41 am
Whatever happens, DO NOT expect the Falcons to take TE Pettigrew at their spot, as a lot of mocks predict. He’s got character issues, and the team is thinking defense first. If they can’t get Cushing or Matthews, I’d like to see them trade down a few picks. They could then get Delmas at safety, then maybe a linebacker in the second or third round. There are a lot of good CBs available, and the birds could use an extra pick on one of the many available pass catching TEs in the later rounds.
SeminoleWarrior
April 18th, 2009
10:16 am
Top of the morning my brothers!! We have seven and a wake up as we used to say in my active duty days in the AF. What’s up Big Ray. I debated the Nelson choice for round two but opt for the bigger, more versatile CB at that position. But I can easily see where Nelson would be the pick in the second round. I just do not feel the TG trade thingy; we could stay with what we have and develop our own man for the future instead of a perennial all-Pro who could retire at anytime if he does not get what he wants. TG will want a large heading-out-to-pasture deal that I think would serve us better by developing a long term role like Nelson. We can work it out with Hartsock and Peele in the meantime. A big threat at TE has never been a major player with Coach Murlarkey anyways. See his resume at Pittsburgh where he had talent at the position. TE is a safety net at best and I think Peele is good enough to give us 3-6 TDs annually for the next two until Nelson is ready to assume the mantel. With that said, here is my revised mock:
1) LB James Laurinaitis (SLB); 2) CB Mike Mickens or TE Shawn Nelson 3) LB Marcus Freeman (WLB), and 4) DT Terrance Taylor. I’m still working the 5th and 6th rounds.
SeminoleWarrior
April 18th, 2009
10:27 am
Big Ray, TD and Smitty may be taken by Hood’s strength and speed. Coach Hamilton would love his work ethic, quick feet, and excellent hands. He can contain and penetrate with ease. So maybe, if the pick is Hood, it will relate back to something that Coach Hamilton noted in 2008 when he took the DL job in ATL:
“You can get the job done with smaller guys but you have to be a very disruptive defense in order to stop the run,” said Hamilton, who coached Pro Bowl defensive tackles John Henderson (325 pounds) and Marcus Stroud (306 pounds) in Jacksonville. “Offensive lineman are big, fat hogs that hold you if you let them. That’s why it’s tough for defensive linemen to come into the league and be successful if they don’t have a good coach to teach them how to use their hands and keep offensive linemen from holding them.”
A later round selection of a guy like Taylor or Roy Miller, coupled with healthy Trey Lewis (??) will give us a pair of this type tackles.
We will see how it plays out but I think the comments of the Coach may be what you are thinking BR…
irvin
April 18th, 2009
10:32 am
Morning all. As I stated on another blog, I don’t think that Pettigrew will be there due to the recent Jason Peters trade. I could be wrong, but I think that there is at least a really good chance that Philadelphia takes him at 21.
Big Ray- Not too sure about the prospect of so many WR’s going before we pick. I would agree that four or five may go in the first round all together. But I will say that there is also a chance that more RB’s go before we pick than many of us anticipate. Cincy, NO, SD and Philly are all possibilities with Moreno, Wells and Brown rated as first round prospects. I wouldn’t rule the Jets out with Jones hitting 30 and his hold-out pending. Your thoughts?
NEW CARS
April 18th, 2009
10:38 am
Any more word on Tony Gonzalez…I would rather see us send a third round pick this year for him….Not sure if I would give up a second rounder for a guy that might get old real quick…
irvin
April 18th, 2009
11:00 am
I think that the TG trade is a worthy deal if for nothing more than the development and maturation of MR. Besides, the great ones like TG often do play those longer careers, and he does still have three years left on his contract in which I’m pretty sure compensates for his production. Also, I don’t believe that he would bail because this guy wants to compete for a chance at a ring.
Stirg d'Nahsif
April 18th, 2009
11:28 am
Big Ray, you were on fire lastnight. With the recent trades and signings, our draft choices leave me so discombobulated. I needed your, very detailed, breakdown to help me focus on what could be available at “24″, which is some very good talent. There’s going to be a great deal of disagreement with the defenseman we would select for the pick; however, I doubt the same could be said if the selection were Pettigrew. I don’t think that there is any other player in the draft, after “24″, that can impact a teams offense (and ultimately, the defense) more than Pettigrew. He’s the safest pick at “24″, despite our greater needs on defense. Good job!
SeminoleWarrior, I can understand your opinion about Gonzo but it would surely solidify our needs, offensively and defensively, if we settled on a trade agreement. Trading for Gonzalez, would allow us to draft a top rated (24 ranked) defenseman, e.g., Jerry, Matthews, Delmas, Barwin, Davis, English, etc. (see Big Ray above). Please consider.
We’re getting closer, fellows, and I have never been more excited about a draft, ever (thanks to you guys). Afterwhile, we’re going to be give throw a lot of high-fives to some blogger for predicting what the Falcons are about to do. Big-ups to Nookah, if we take Sintim. High five to SeminoleWarrior, if we snatch Laurinaitis. Congratulations to marko, if Matthews, Jr. is selected.
Now, if Pettigrew’s selection (or a trade for Gonzalez) is manifested, I don’t want to see “he said it; old Stirg tried to tell us”. Instead, I want my whole Falcon FANily to join me in unison and lift their Red Scripes (yes “Scripes”; I told y’all I’m from Atlanta) with a toast to this year’s Atlanta Falcons.
I’m about to move away from football for awhile and get into my “Hawks” zone (they need me over there). Its crunch time, baby!
(Whispering!)Quiet as kept, I like Detroit over Cleveland in the opening game today (just the first game; I still think Cleveland will win the series). Who want some?
tbhawksfan
April 18th, 2009
11:57 am
I’d love to see the draft day trade go:
TG / #67 for #55 and a third next season. This gives us TG without losing a player this season. the draft could go something like this:
#24: Maybin OLB
#67: Robinson OG
#90: Barnes CB
#125: Taylor DT
#138: Maiva OLB
#143: Pegues FS
#176: Bennett DE
I MUS.WRITE
April 18th, 2009
12:14 pm
If Cushing is on the board at 24 he’s the pick…….. We have other holes to fill but you cant turn your head on that kind of talen to get a DT. There are plenty of space eaters to be had in the 3-5 rounds. If he is off the board then i would go CB and get the kid Butler from U CONN or possibly Delmas. Zach Follete is gonna be just as good as Cush IMO so he is also a possibility in rounds 3 or 4. Gawd i cant wait for next Sat- to se where we are headed as a team and to finally hear TD’s explanation on his picks —-DRAFT MATRIX_
Ken Strickland
April 18th, 2009
12:18 pm
BIG RAY-since English appeared on our mock draft, he’s moved from a 2nd rd possibility to a 1st rd possibility and might not get past New England at #23. It’s been said they really like him.
There are HC’s and GM’s who focus primarily on finished products, or players with more skills than talent rather than players with more talent than skills. This type of player is often called “A REACH” when considered in the middle to high 1st rd. However, if he has the intangibles, the work ethic, desire and self motivation to repidly develop the needed skills, you could easily end up with a JPeppers, RHanesworth or RWhite. That’s why we can’t ignore very talented and athletic players like DE’s English and Johnson. It all depends on the confidence you have in your coaching staff’s ability to coach players up. And last yr, our coaching staff successfully coached up an awful lot of 1st and 2nd yr players, as well as some vets.
That’s why I like English as the first choice. He can develop into a solid SLB, or DE, while providing a strong outside pass rush opposite DE JAbraham, or replace his production if he’s injuried. That would make the next most important acquisition a run stuffing DT. A PASS RUSHING DE/LB AND A RUN STUFFING DT WOULD SOLVE MOST OF THE PROBLEMS WE HAD LAST YR WITH STOPPING THE RUN AND DEFENDING THE PASS.
SeminoleWarrior
April 18th, 2009
12:23 pm
Stirg, I feel what you and Big Ray are saying. And trust me, I am not a Gonzo hater. He would be productive in the right scheme. I just simply feeling that the better option will be to build long term through the draft. TG has been around for a while. He was the focal point of the offense in KC. How will he adjust to not being the MAIN man in ATL? Should the Falcons take on $22 million against the cap over the next three years on a 33 year old when we could develop our own and spread that cash over several areas of need on the team? Those are the thoughts that have me nervous about the deal.
SeminoleWarrior
April 18th, 2009
12:29 pm
A better TE trade deal would have been earlier in the season when Owen Daniels was out there. Houston tendered him with a second round pick. He has since resigned with them. But that would have been a great pick up and opened up the seam in the passing game. Daniels is much younger but just as athletic as TG was in his prime. And he has good blocking skills as well.
Nookah
April 18th, 2009
12:32 pm
Well, well, guys top of the morning to yah!!! Big Ray I see you have been burning the midnight oil….nice work man. I like the breakdown you did to see who could be left for us to take and I am with you on the names you mentioned.
Last night I was thinking and guess what I thought about? Do you know who Larry English reminds me of? LE is listed as 6-2, 255 and very athletic, rushes the passer with wreckless abandon. Which past player (now deceased, RIP) has his same build and was actually listed as 6-3, 255?…..Kansas City Chiefs LB, Derrick Thomas!!!
We may be looking at Larry English with the 24th pick!!!
Go Falcons!!!
Nuff respect everytime!!!
Go Falcons!!
SeminoleWarrior
April 18th, 2009
12:33 pm
K Strick, I’m with you on the run-stuffing DT. And that is why I think we will get a steal in the fourth or fifth by taking Terrance Taylor or Roy Miller. Huge men in the middle that clog the interior and handle the position. They need a little work on their foot work but Sugar Bear can handle that. And this rotation, Lewis/Babs and Taylor/Anderson at the tackle positions would solidify that line, opening up Abraham, Davis, and Biermann to do their thing. An occasional blitz, to keep teams honest against us, could come from Laurinaitis, Freeman, or even Lofton and/or Coleman. What do you think bro?
SeminoleWarrior
April 18th, 2009
12:39 pm
Powerful comparsion there Nookah.. DT was one h*** of a pass rusher. He has the skill set to do that as well. English’s pass coverage skills are in question with me. Do you and K Strick think that Smitty is on the verge of using more blitzing this season than he did last. limited
I MUS.WRITE
April 18th, 2009
12:44 pm
All this redd stripe talk is making me thirsty….. to bad im at work, Im a guiness stout man myself. Guiness good for what ales you………………..
SeminoleWarrior
April 18th, 2009
12:44 pm
Strig, I’m with on the Detroit upset. And the Hawks will take care of business tomorrow night against the Heat. Now back to the business at hand, the draft. LOL.
Nookah
April 18th, 2009
12:59 pm
Seminole Warrior, I do think it will appear that we will be blitzing more this year, simply because we will be able to put more pressure on the opponent’s DLine, because we will be bolstering the middle through Trey Lewis and whoever we use as his backup, whether it’s through the draft or from the development of players on our current roster. This will force the QB out of the pocket and we will be putting the pressure on from outside. However, I think we need that extra rush from the other side (other than John Abraham’s side). Also as someone mentioned in a previous post, JA can get injured. Apart from that we are going to nned some rotation at the “bbokends” to keep the rush fresh at all times.
I MUS WRITE, I am not a Guiness man, but have you tried your brew with Red Bull? After one of those maybe you could rush tha passer!!!!! Do you think that’s what Cushing and Matthews are on? Just sayin’
Go Falcons!!!!
Rastaman vibration yeah, Positive, live if you wanna live…..I & I vibration yeah……(Robert Nesta!!)
Nuff respect everytime!!!
Nookah
April 18th, 2009
1:17 pm
Ken Stric, I just read your post. I would have no problem if Derrick Thomas Jnr. (Larry English) is selected, no problem whatsoever. In fact I would think he may be a little better choice than Clint Sintim. I think he is more suited to our system and more versatile.
Go Falcons!!!
Nuff respect everytime!!!!
Falcon228
April 18th, 2009
1:19 pm
Cushing would be a big risk. His heart is in the right place but if you take a look at the injuries over the years you want to look at another choice. His eating habits are somewhat questionable plus his upper body strength lacks what it takes in the NFL. I have no doubt his “highlights” are loaded with some great looking stuff but that can sway a GM or Head Coach down the road of doom. The steroid rumors are just that, rumors. Look at his injuries and durability and that tells you what you have. If I was going to make the pick I’d go with Clay Matthews or Clint Sintim. Matthews still has that raw talent and desire and Sintim can fit right away into the 3-4 and also because of his bulk could stay on the field for passing downs. Now about Braylon Edwards. He’s dropped a few that he should have pulled in. That tells me he hasn’t had that mentor or a wide receivers coach to make him one of the elite WR in the NFL. He needs a change of scenery to get him to the next level. It took a hands on approach from (believe it or not) Bobby Petrino to get Roddy White to leave the drive thru windows at McDonald’s alone and to follow the direction of a dietitian. He had to stop lifting quarter pounders and hit the weight room and start lifting the equipment there.
tbhawksfan
April 18th, 2009
1:26 pm
Between Cushing, English, Barwin and Maybin, it appears that Maybin is the highest rated. I wasn’t impressed by Cushiing’s vid provided by Led. Notice I didn’t include Sintim.
WR
April 18th, 2009
1:40 pm
I know, I know, I know, but I think this is going to be Jamaal Andersen’s breakout year, or I give up. For a DE who hasn’t played the position much, this should be the year for him. He went to Arkansas as a tight-end, he grew and was switched into a DE, he was one of the best in the SEC, which is the reason the Falcons drafted him, and is the same reason why they have been so patient with him. If everyone can remember, Kerney was the same way, he was a lacrosse player who started playing football late in his Virginia career, he blossomed in college and with a few years learning from Chuck Smith and others, he turned into a beast, Andersen looks and has the measuerables of a beast, its just time he puts it all together and unleashes the beast within. As far as OLB and DE hybrids, the birds have that with Davis and Biermann Aaron Curry at the weakside backer would be ideal, not going to happen, so get a Freeman late who will be allowed the opportunity to grow and learn from veterans ahead of him, the corners looked shady but Jackson looked good last year and as much as people might try to deny it, I believe Houston is coming around. I kind of feel sorry for Grimes because he’s such a fighter, but I recently ran into this guy and he’s probably 5′7 at best. Pettigrew is the man at 24, or make a trade with Detroit for a 2nd and a 4th. Build the D, with the rest of the picks, grab a couple of FA offensive line players and the birds will be on their way.
Ken Strickland
April 18th, 2009
3:05 pm
SEMINOLEWARRIOR-a playmaking DT like Hanesworth would be excellent, but there just aren’t any in this yrs draft. However, this draft is loaded with big strong run stuffing DT’s. There just might be a Haneswoth in the making in one of the most underrated DT in the draft in Sammie Lee Hill of Stillman College who’s just under 6′4″ 329lbs. Check out his scouting report on him an tell me if I’m wrong.
HEIGHT-WEIGHT-
SPEED—-Good height, excellent bulk and above average top end speed for size.
DURABILITY-Durability is no a concern to our knowledge.
CHARACTER-Helped pull a man out of a burning house in Aug of 2007. Lined up a DE in 2008 and willing to play on the inside and/or the outside.
AGILITY/QUICKNESS-Quick first step and can shoot into the backfield. Above average lateral mobility and changes directions well for a player his size.
STRENGTH/TOUGHNESS-Above average upper body strength and flashes a violent punch. Plays with an edge. Appears to gear down at times and may need to shed weight.
INSTINCTS-Does a good job of getting hands up when he sees QB start his throwing mition. Flashes the ability to stack, locate the ball and then shed.
PASS RUSHER-Can redirect inside after starting outside and has the potential to develop quality double moves but a fairly one dimensional bull rusher at the point. Drives legs on constact and flashes the ability to collapse the pocket. Above average closing speed for size.
RUN STOPPER-Put on close to 50lbs during time at Stillman and tough to move off the ball with one man, but has a tendecy to play too high and has some problems anchoring against double teams as a result. Uses hands fairly well and can shed blockers in time to make the play.
He doesn’t have a single shortcoming that can’t be corrected in a short period of time with coaching and experience. I’ll take this kid in the 3rd or 4th rd any day of the week over any of the more highly rated DT’s that will likely go in the top 2 rds. He’ll be cheaper to acquire and has more upside. Do you think Raji, Hood, Brace or Jerry have the versatility to play both inside and outside as effectively?
Can you imagine our DL with DT’s SHill(329lbs) and TLewis(323lbs) flanked by DE’s JAbraham and either LEnglish, JAnderson or CDavis?
Boo Boo
April 18th, 2009
3:27 pm
Who pays people to pretend to be drafting players for the NFL? Make it worth my time and I’ll announce my own mock draft. Geez. Get a real job.
Ken Strickland
April 18th, 2009
3:42 pm
NOOKAH-Former KC Chief and U of Alabama LB Derrick Thomas would have ended up in the same category with LB Lawrence Taylor if he had lived. While I wasn’t an Alabama fan, I was a Derrick Thomas fan because of his backgroud and he unquestioned character. We lost more than just a Probowl player when we lost him, we lost an inspiration. His father was killed in Viet Nam, and he used the memory of his father as inspiration to become the outstanding individual and football player he ultimately became. I didn’t have Derrick Thomas in mind when I picked LEnglish as my 1st choice, but if he reminds you of DThomas in any way, I want him on my team.
WR-don’t apologize for believing DE JAnderson will have a breakout season. After all, he has actually been learning how to effectively play the position while in the pros. People forget he was converted from TE to DE his last yr or so in college, where he was able to use his size and strength to be effective in college. In the Pros, he’s had to learn the nuances and techniques of the position to be an effective pass rusher. Let’s hope this is his breakout yr.
SeminoleWarrior
April 18th, 2009
4:34 pm
K Strick, I love the analysis on Sammie Lee Hill. Talked to a partner of mine in Birmingham that is a Stillman alum and he loves the kid. He and Taylor could become a nice rotation with Lewis. I’ll take him or Taylor in the fourth. I think that Hood or Jeery could work on the outside but neither Brace or Raji would work there. And as you may recall, I once suggested (during my extended selling of Patrick Chung) that we may be looking at Ziggy Hood (recall mark Bradley’s blog). DT will be addressed next Saturday or Sunday.
Barring a run on DTs, I’m going to go with it being a fourth or fifth round pick; Taylor, Hill, or Miller. Are we still cool K Strick?
SeminoleWarrior
April 18th, 2009
4:36 pm
I’m with K Strick on the Derrick Thomas analysis. That will be one H*** of an emotional moment when he is inducted into the Hall in late July. Even this “tough-guy” warrior may need to walk away from the TV. He was a classy guy, one hell of a player, and an even greater man from all I have heard and read. RIP DT….true football fans know that you were one of the best.
SeminoleWarrior
April 18th, 2009
4:46 pm
WR, I like the Kearney and Anderson reference. It did take PK a few years behind Chuck to arrive but d>>> if he did not arrive with a bang!! The Sugar Bear will help the kid come along even further this season. And if we can get another 10-15 pounds on Biermann, we will have a nice rotation at DE. SLEEPER ALERT…Babs can also move outside to DE. His size is similiar to that of Dwight Freeney. I’m not saying that Babs is Freeney but it does give Smitty and Sugar Bear another dimension to ponder if and when they move Anderson inside.
D3
April 18th, 2009
5:03 pm
Great Saturday Afternoon Bro’s! We’ve finally reached the ONE WEEK mark, did we ever think this day would get here? And how long do you think this next week will be? Forever. Seeing some great comments, points of view, and thought patterns. This is the time that we all start spreading out all over the map. If this is where we are, can you imagine what the Falcons brass is going through with 7 days to go? So much to discuss………..
The Cushing pick is definitely creating some serious polarization into a pro camp and a “Bosworth/Marinovich” comparing camp. Honestly, I don’t think it’ll be an issue because he is such a top linebacker. As DOL noted, the emergence of the 3-4 across the league has created a high demand for OLB/DE hybrids, but Cushing’s stock is high because of his versatility, in that he can play outside in a 4-3 or inside and even possibly outside in a 3-4.
I assumed he’d be a good pick because he’s performed on a high level for many years, but after doing research, he actually only had one good year, being his senior year. The issue goes to risk and experience. Clint Sintim, by contrast, has mad experience starting all four years and showing great improvement each year. He fits the role of SAM that we need and can play all 3 LB positions that Smitty covets. Matthews and Cushing are both big risks after showing out only one year, and I think that Matthews may have more upside. So to all the boys that I disagreed with……..you were right. The USC kool-aid saturated my brain. I still think that Matthews would be a good pick, but give me Sintim over either one. DOL, Nookah, JG(I think), and anyone else I left out.
Now, that being said, I still think this point will be rendered moot because Pettigrew is our man and he will drop to us. The only teams that may take him before us would be Buffalo or Philadelphia. Some dude from the Sporting News had Denver taking him, but they Scheffler and they have tons of needs on D. Pettigrew will be too good and a too much of a fit to pass up. I’d say that 85% of the mocks I’ve seen has us taking Pettigrew.
Zup
April 18th, 2009
5:23 pm
I, too, am now drinking a Red Stripe (thanks to this blog’s endless endorsement of this brand). I heard a mock draft on ESPN radio today on which (again) Todd McShay pegged the Falcons with Pettigrew. Can this many mock drafts be wrong? I have a feeling Pettigrew is going to be a Falcon. Talk me down.
SeminoleWarrior
April 18th, 2009
5:25 pm
D3, What’s up bro? Defense my brother, the choice will be defense. I think the Pettigrew pick is smoke and mirrors. He is a beast I will give you that. But everything I have ready and studied on Coach Murlarkey’s scheme just seems to make his selection a contridiction. Other than blocking, Coach M’s tight ends have not been major elements of his offense. Check out his tenure at Pittsburgh. As I researched it on profootballreference.com, I did not see anything there that led me to believe that he is changing his philosophy. He didn’t last season; it was very remindful of the Cowher-era offenses in Pittsburgh. The pick will be defense. But I am starting to notice that Ziggy Hood is quietly drawing a lot of attention from ATL. Some reports have him in ATL next week for “a business trip”. Could the Birds quietly be at work on preliminary talks?
SeminoleWarrior
April 18th, 2009
5:32 pm
Freeman and Lauriniatis are my choices D3. Versatile as Smitty wants. But much better production in the pass coverage game than the USC corps. And given our MAJOR shortfalls there last season, I give the OSU group the advantage. All other facets are even other than the ESPN press coverage of the USC ‘backers.
SeminoleWarrior
April 18th, 2009
5:41 pm
Zup, it will be about defense brother. If Hartsock is healthy and solid as a blocker, we can get by on Peele with 3-5 TDs. That is a typical # for TE production in Murlarkey’s offense. History is on my side with this unless Coach has experienced a “divine revelation” regarding the TE position. The posse has mad mention of the likes of Moorah late in the draft; I personally like Nelson. A sleeper could be a guy like John Phillips of Virginia. Al Groh is known for producing very good TEs and he an Coach M go a way back. Food for thought…
D3
April 18th, 2009
5:49 pm
Stirg – the closer we get to the draft, the more you’re moving away from it and towards the Hawks? What’s up with that brother? JK. What do you think the possibility is on Philly taking our boy Pettigrew? Personally, I think they will take Moreno in a heartbeat, because Westbrook will be 31 next year, and we all know what happens to RB’s over 30. I asked my buddy at work who’s a Philly fan about TE, and he said that they were pretty happy about developing Celek, who was a rookie and outright replaced LJ Smith by the end of the season. If Moreno is gone, then maybe we’re in trouble, but the only RB I see going before that is maybe Beanie Wells to the Saints.
tbhawk – haven’t seen hardly any drafts having Maybin slipping even close to our range. He’s too much of a specimen to pass up, especially for all those 3-4 teams picking in front of us.
I.MUS – I used to think Cushing was the man too, but I took a look at his injury history, lack of experience, and how his “workout warrior” status rarely translated to the field. I wouldn’t be upset with a Cushing pick, but I’ll take Sintim, English, and Matthews over Cush. Guiness, one of my all time fav’s and best beers out there. As they say in Ireland, “Sweet as a nut.”
Seminole – tearing it up my brother. You and Big Ray are rockin’ the house. You tore up so many good topics, no idea where to start. I gotta depart witcha’ on Laurinitus. As many people have mentioned on Cushing or Matthews, just not feeling him. He strikes me as more of a MLB, which we have and as I mentioned earlier, Sintim has passed all OLB’s on “my” board and Cushing has dropped. It’s easier to take a gamble on a guy with “huge upside” like Cushing or Matthews, but Sintim has rocked the s— for all four years, getting better each year. Gotta great work ethic and a team leader. Good stuff man.
Big Ray – great research and analyses my man. Like your list of who will be there. I would be happy with any of them, but be more happy with the guys that are “rising” in my mind this week. Pettigrew, Sintim, English, and Matthews I would prefer in that order.
Ken Strick – English has moved ahead of Matthews and Cushing on “my” board, but I still like Sintim as a little more “now ready” than the others. The work ethic and enormous consistency for four years makes him a stud that could fit great in our system. Good points on English.
WR – you got it. This is Anderson’s boom or bust year. 3 years is the time frame for DE’s, and if he doesn’t show out this year than he might could officially be labeled…..well, we all know. Pettigrew it is, IMVHO. And maybe they could trade and still get Sintim, but I’m starting to doubt it.
Ken Strick – where do we take Sammie Hill?
Order of preference for our #24:
1)Pettigrew
2)Sintim
3)English
4)Matthews
5)Cushing
Man, how my beliefs have changed over the weeks. Reasons for the changes to come late. Wow, I’m like Vontae Davis in front of a mirror. And on that note………..
6 DAYS, 18 HOURS, 10 MINUTES, & COUNTING!!!! Under the week mark, YES!
BILLY JACK
April 18th, 2009
6:00 pm
IF Cushing is there he is a Falcon.2 of the first 3 picks have to go on def.You can get a good TE in the 4th or 5th round.I just cant believe he will be there.This is the best mock draft I have seen.
D3
April 18th, 2009
6:01 pm
Seminole – you know you’re my boy, but gotta disagree on your picks, respectfull of course. Honestly, I would take tons of guys before Laurinitus. I think he’ll be a good player, but I think he fits as more of a 3-4 ILB than a 4-3 OLB. I’m all up for Freeman, but under the assumption that we take Pettigrew with our first. Speaking of Pettigrew… Sometimes there are smoke screens from GM’s and teams, but not in every case. Mularkey’s offense calls for TE’s to block first and catch second, but I guarantee you that he will find ways to get Pettigrew the ball. He’s been of TE reverses in the past when he’s had the players.
And on not necessarily needing him, also got to disagree. Our offense worked great last year, but it could reach a new level with Pettigrew. There weren’t many games where our OFF got stuck, but the ones where we did (Arizona, TB#1, Carolina#1, etc.), it was mainly because Turner never got going. As much of a stud as he was, if he was tip-toeing to the line we sure could have used a TE to get us those 3rd and 7’s. JMO, of course.
Great to be so close to the draft. As I’ve mentioned in the past, I’m going to need some methadone after the draft to help me with my withdrawals.
SeminoleWarrior
April 18th, 2009
6:23 pm
Nothing but love for all my brothers here. Got to keep the fires on high flame as we draw closer over the next six days. We all will see points and counterpoints many a time between now and 4pm on next Saturday. I know that it may be a reach for my OSU duo of LBs but I simply love the versatility they bring. JL can move out to the strong side and be effective. You boy Sintim is a beast I give you that and I would take him over any one of the USC dudes. But I like the fact that I can move JL and Freeman to ANY of the three LB positions and still have a very effective scheme. Nothing but love for my brothers here in Blog City!!
BILLY JACK
April 18th, 2009
6:29 pm
If Cushing is there he is the pick.Dimitroff is a very smart guy and will not pass on him.Two of the first three picks must be def.You can draft a good TE in the 4th or 5th round and be just fine.You have got to shore up your run def to win.Cushing is a great pass rusher off the edge and excellent in pass coverage and very good against the run.VERY AGGRESSIVE.This will be a great draft by the falcons.
SeminoleWarrior
April 18th, 2009
6:31 pm
D3, speaking of tip-toeing, do we need to address depth at RB in case something happens to Turner. Snelling is a beast and shows potential but Norwood, while lightning quick, gets nervous at the sight of a big time hit. Or do we think that Thomas Brown can fill the void if needed?
Ken Strickland
April 18th, 2009
6:34 pm
SEMINOLEWARRIOR-I know I’ll have a moment. I remember when the Chicago Bears held a televised memorial at Soldiers Field in honor to the late great Walter “Sweetness” Payton. I struggled to hold it together as one after one of his former teammates and opponents stepped up and praised him as a man, father, businessman and friend more so than a football player. But when one of his former teammates stood up and said he wanted his son to grow up and be the man Walter Payton was, and would be just as proud if he grew up to be half the man Walter was, I broke down and had to walk away from the tv. The same inner spirit that motivated and inspired Walter Payton apparently dwelled within Derrick Thomas. Both the Alabama and Kansas City communities held him in equally high esteem for what he did for them off the field. I’ve always felt a personal loss when we lose persons of high character, motivation and/or great contributions.
You might be right about the possilility of Jerry and Hood being able to play outside. But with Sammie Lee Hill, there’s no reason for doubt or wonderment, since he actually played DE his senior yr. Part of his scouting report was based on him playing DE.
We would have an outstanding draft if we could end up with the following:
1-DE LEnglish
2-TE TD and Smitty’s choice
3-DT Sammie Lee Hill
4-CB CMunnerly
5-OG TGreen
5-OT Lewis, Cornelius(Tenn State)he transferred to Tenn State from Fla State where he was good enough to start 3gms before being dismissed from team.
6-DT TD and Smitty’s choice
SeminoleWarrior
April 18th, 2009
6:46 pm
Cushing versus Laurinaitis. Both have played both inside and outside during their college days so they are flexible in scheme.
JL: 6′2″ 245 4.8 forty 51 games at OSU; 375 tackles, 25 Tackles for loss, 13 sacks, 7 passes broken up, and 9 interceptions.
BC: 6′3″ 245 4.8 forty 44 games at USC; 178 tackles, 27 tackles for loss, 8.5 sacks, 12 passes broken up, and 1 interception.
JL is very durable and relentless in his approach to the game. There are some questions in both areas about Cushing. Just more for all of us football addicts to digest over the next six…
SeminoleWarrior
April 18th, 2009
6:57 pm
K Strick, I feel ya on the the Sweetness rememberance. I’m alifelong Falcon fan and I grew up in Thomasville admiring William Andrews at our high school. But the back I always wished to be like was Sweetness. My career never took off (thus my USAF career of 20-plus years) but I own enough Sweetness memorablia to make one think I am a Bears fan for life.
Doing more research on Sammie Hill and I will admit, I’m beginning to flow with it. I think Sugar Bear can and will address the minor issues in his game. I still like Terrance Taylor of Michigan. He is going to be a STEAL for someone I’m telling you.
Inafmaousandy
April 18th, 2009
7:06 pm
Cushing would be nice but, it doesn’t make sense. What happened to building the D “inside out”? Give us D-line and more D-Line! By the way, Raheem Morris is NOT running the Tampa 2 in Tampa anymore. Keep up the good work DOL.
WR
April 18th, 2009
7:48 pm
Great comments today my fellow bloggers, haven’t had the time to blog as much today, coach keeps showing up and now coach has decided she wants to go out for dinner. Funny how I can sit around all day and do nothing and never hear from the coach, the minute I sit down and start to do anything I enjoy, coach just appears. She should be the falcons number one draft pick, no one will be allowed to get open, and they would run into the opposite direction of her mouth. Mostly kidding coach is a pretty good woman, but I think most men get my point when it comes to untimely times to show up.
Nookah
April 18th, 2009
7:48 pm
Seminole, what’s up my brother? D3 you the man, good to see on the pages.
Zup, welcome to one of the greatest brews around.
IMUS Write, have you tried the Guiness and Red Bull yet? Before you try it, make sure you have some “legal” form of “release”!!! It’ll let you grow hairs in the middle of your hands!!!!
Seminole, D3, back to football….take a look (as I have told you before) at Dan Gronkowski!!! He’s a sleeper!! He’s what Mularkey is looking for, trust me!!
Go Falcons!!!
Nuff respect everytime!!!
SeminoleWarrior
April 18th, 2009
8:25 pm
Nookah, I’m checking your man out right now. Seem to be a nice package and has a great skill set. 6′6″ would make an excellent target in the red zone for sure. Nothing but raves about his blocking. Does not look like he can stretch a defense though? Where would you pick him up?
SeminoleWarrior
April 18th, 2009
8:29 pm
WR, you can have the couch in the great room here if you need it tonight, brother. LOL. “Coach” will have her way and enjoy a fine dinner. But I feel ya…went through the same last evening with the First Lady here. We did Chinese and all was well. LOL…..hope that dinner was fine.
Big Ray
April 18th, 2009
8:37 pm
SEMINOLEWARRIOR,
Good stuff, man. I hadn’t read that about Coach Hamilton. That does make you think of a guy like Hood. One thing I see consistent on all of his scouting reports is “high motor.” And that’s precisely what you WANT to see, especially if the guy in question is “only” 295-300 pounds.
IRVIN,
I’m guessing on the wide receivers. No way to tell for sure, but I think there will be an early run on them. As for the running backs, you may well be VERY right about that, and to be honest…I hope you are. It does the same thing for us in the draft that a run on receivers does. And you know how it gets when people all of the sudden get all antsy about skill positions on the offensive side of the ball.
marko
April 18th, 2009
8:47 pm
Just a couple of thoughts on the Tony Gonzalez trade. I still think that it will happen; But Thomas isn’t going to surrender his second rounder. Pioli only gave up a forth round pick for Randy Moss who was a year younger than Tony is now. Tony has cleaned out his locker and made it pretty clear that he wants out of KC. The Falcons I think want Tony bad enough to over pay a little for him, but they won’t give up a second round pick for a thirty –three year old tight end. Gonzalez wants to walk away gracefully and leave a city that has loved him with a bare minimum of hurt feelings. Despite these facts, He’s made it clear that he’s not going to be a chief next year Pioli’s a smart guy; he knows that a three or a four is better than nothing. He needs to take the best deal he can get and avoid creating an ugly situation as it’s already a tough sell moving Chief tickets these days.
Big Ray
April 18th, 2009
8:48 pm
STIRG,
Thanks for the shout-out. I was trying to blow off a little pre-draft anxiety steam and reason out why we need not be too anxious about our position in the first round. By all means, you ARE needed on the Hawks front. Hang out at the HAWKS HACKS blog, too. I co-host that along with HB Ando. He just wrote the latest blog that’s up. Keep in mind, what’s written is done so sometimes to provoke conversation….
As to what happens in the draft, I just can’t wait until then. I’m trying to slow down with checking all the different websites and their mock-ups. Save me a red scripe or two, will ya? I might need it.
KEN STRICKLAND,
Yeah, English could be gone by the time we pick. He’s moving up draft boards, like some others are.
And you beat me to a very, very good point that I’ve been meaning to make. Our coaching staff is of the caliber that can help motivate players, and make them want to play well. As much as our “resident haters” on this blog don’t like it, this was never more evident than last season. We didn’t go 11-5 because of a weak schedule. People didn’t expect much (even we true fans) because of the past (including he who must not be named), and because we had a brand new GM, brand new coach, and a lot of young players mixed in with a lot of crusty veterans.
This team, however, responded well to the coaching staff, and stuck together. Nothing about our roster made anybody tremble. Nothing about this franchise gave people reason to think that we could be potent. Nothing on paper. But the players we had responded to the coaches we had, and that spells success. So as you say, the right guy with the right attitude can overcome many of the deficiencies and “red flags” that come up. With a self-motivated and charismatic staff like this, any player has a chance to be part of a successful franchise. That’s what I’m counting.
Not schedule strength, not a lone superstar player. Those days are over. The time of the TEAM has returned. And with that, success. Haters beware.
Big Ray
April 18th, 2009
8:58 pm
NOOKAH,
Very strong referrence to Thomas with Larry English! Wow. If he’s anything like that, pick him PLEASE! Thomas was awesome. RIP indeed….
I MUS,
Where have you been? Man, you must be working harder than anybody, ’cause I haven’t seen much of you here or on the Hawks blogs! Slow down, bro’!
D3,
I like the way you think. I’m not sure Pettigrew WILL fall (or that we’ll pick him), just based on a few things here and there that I’m reading, but let me tell you: I would NOT be sad if we got him. Not at all. Recent comments about Mularkey’s offensive tendencies/history do have me wondering about that, though.
As for your defensive picks, I have NO arguments.
MARKO,
Your NFL Christmas post was the shiznit!
Big Ray
April 18th, 2009
9:01 pm
MARKO,
I hear you. I don’t think the Gonzalez thing is dead. However….I did read an article about some comments Gonzalez made. He basically said he had asked to be traded, and he was unhappy that it didn’t happen…but that he was a pro, and he would not do any less than he has before.
Of course, that does NOT mean that it’s not going to happen now. And I agree that Pioli has to be thinking that he’s not getting a 2nd rounder out of such a trade. But still, you never want to set the bid too low, especially on the possibility that there’s a team out there desperate or stupid enough to go for it. I’d give a 3rd rounder for him. And that may be exactly what Dimitroff does, if he’s still interested. I’d have to think Pioli would go for that…
Ken Strickland
April 18th, 2009
9:15 pm
SEMINOLEWARRIOR-if you’ll notice, my selections included drafting 2 DT’s, so your guy could be included. I included an OG because we don’t have a true backup OG on the roster. The depth chart lists TClabo, a OG converted to a starting OT, and Wilkerson who’s an OT that’s used as the backup OT and OG. We also have to replace backup OT TWeiner, although we’ll have OT RFoster returning from IR. I checked your guy Taylor out and much like Hill, there’s nothing about his gm that can’t be corrected or improved in a short period of time with coaching and experience.
Imagine how difficult it would be for teams to run on us with big, strong DT’s SLHill(329lbs and TLewis(323lbs) anchoring the interior DL and MLB CLofton backing them up. These 2 would improve our pass rush as well. If we get an effective pass rush from our front 4, our LB’s could be used to help the secondary. All of this can be accomplished by using a 3rd or 4th rd pick to draft a DT from little Stillman college, wow!!
Nookah
April 18th, 2009
9:25 pm
Big Ray, respect is due.Thanks bro.
Seminole, if there is no TG trade I’d take Gronkowski in the 5th round. Obviously if there is a TG trade (I hope we give up no more than a 3rd or preferably 4th) then we won’t need to draft him.
1st round: Clint Sintim/Derrick Thomas Jnr. (Larry English) whoever is available
2nd round: Conner Barwin/Michael Johnson – either one I’d be cool
3rd round: Sen’Derrick Marks
4th round: Roy Miller
5th Round: Dan Gronkowski
D3, Ken, Stirg, where you at?!!!!!
Go Falcons!!!!
Nuff respect everytime!!!!!
SeminoleWarrior
April 18th, 2009
9:51 pm
Big Ray, you nailed it once again. I’ve been a Falcon fan for a long time. And I would step out there and say we have not had chemistry like that since the days of Leeman Bennett with Dan Reeves’ 98 team a close second. K-Strick, you have sold me on Hill so I am going to take him and Taylor both in my mocks. TEAMWORK…the brothers here with the passion for the game; Smitty and the Birds on the field. Bring it on!!
marko
April 18th, 2009
9:53 pm
D3 is shiznit good? Big Ray, I was up for giving KC our two. YOU know I’m on board if we can work the deal for a three. The Patriots and the Browns both have two Two’s. I’d give our one to either of them for there twos. Think what Dimitroff could do with three number twos. That’s too many twos for one paragraph don’t you think?
marko
April 18th, 2009
9:57 pm
According to NFL.com, Gonzalez hasn’t showed up for Mini camp. The Plot thickens.
harry rand
April 18th, 2009
9:59 pm
If the lb your going for is only going to compete for a starting spot you might as well accumulate some second round picks because honestly the ones that you have bandied about for a month aren’t that great any way. If you look at most rosters you find that second and third rounders are the ones making up most rosters.
harry rand
April 18th, 2009
10:01 pm
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Nookah
April 18th, 2009
10:06 pm
Moving right along folks!!!!
Go Falcons!!!
SeminoleWarrior
April 18th, 2009
10:07 pm
My revised mock is as follows: First, I solidify the LB corps with the selections of Laurinaitis and Freeman. Their interchangability in their positions, their speed, their pass coverage skills, and strong will are just what our LB corps needs. I respect all those who stand firm for the likes of English, Sintim, and Cushing. But I just think that JL at SLB, Lofton at MLB, and Freeman at WLB is an potential lethal trio.
Defensive tackle needs are addressed in the middle with the selection of two M1 Abrams tanks in Sammie Lee Hill and Terrance Taylor. Huge pluggers in the middle that can handle double teams and plug the interior; freeing JL, CL, and MF to attack with attitude.
Strong safety could be addressed later with a ballhawk in Otis Wiley. An excellent cover man, fine on special teams as a pint returner, and can play both safety positions. 6′2″ 210.
OL depth can be addressed with tackle Joel Bell of Furman and guard Andy Kemp of Wisconsin.
SeminoleWarrior
April 18th, 2009
10:15 pm
SLEEPER ALERT: TE Ryan Purvis of Boston College has reportedly worked out with his former BC teammate Matt Ryan back in the greater Boston area? Could there be a post-draft free agent signing in the making?
D-Led, did any of your source hear of this..any truth to this web posting?
Zup
April 18th, 2009
10:28 pm
Hey, Seminole Warrior
I grew up in T’ville, too! THS Class of 1987 and FSU grad. of 1991! Oh, Sh*T.
Falcon Devil
April 18th, 2009
11:13 pm
My Mock Draft. I challenge all including you DOB. A point for every direct hit. Winner is the most GM-Ready Falcons Fan.
1. Detroit Lions: Matthew Stafford, QB, Georgia. If they were smart they would go tackle and wait for next draft for the franchise QB, but they are the Lions.
2. St. Louis Rams: Jason Smith, OT, Baylor.
3. Kansas City Chiefs: Aaron Curry, LB, Wake Forest.
4. Seattle Seahawks: Michael Crabtree, WR, Texas Tech. They can pick up a project Qb later this round or next year, Crabtree will make an immediate impact as a first rounder should.
5. Cleveland Browns: Brian Orakpo, DE, Texas.
6. Cincinnati Bengals: Andre Smith, OT, Alabama. Bengals love players who have crappy attitudes and have freakish talent.
7. Oakland Raiders: Jeremy Maclin, WR, Missouri. I would pick Raji but Al Davis is a sucker for the skills positons.
8. Jacksonville Jaguars: B.j. Raji, DT, Boston College. They need a WR but they can get a good one in the second. Raji is too good to pass on.
9. Green Bay Packers: Tyson Jackson, DE, LSU.
10. San Francisco 49ers: Mark Sanchez, QB, USC. This is far in most opinions for him to slip but I think the Jags are smoke screening on him. They made Garrard the man and paid him they have to live with it.
11. Buffalo Bills: Eugene Monroe, OT, Virginia. Just traded their LT to Philly.
12: Denver Broncos (from Chicago): Everette Brown, DE, FSU.
13. Washington Redskins: Brian CUshing, LB, USC. Dan Snyder love big names and Cushing has been getting hyped by NFL network and ESPN.
14. New Orleans Saints: Malcom Jenkins, CB, Ohio State.
15. Houston Texans: Knowshon Moreno, , RB, UGA. Great addition to Steve Slaton.
16. San Diego Chargers: Michael Oher, OT, Missisippi.
17. New York Jets: Josh Freeman, QB, Kansas State
18. Denver Broncos: Vontae Davis, CB, Illinois. Great compliment to Champ.
19. Tampa Bay Buccaneers: Michael Johnson, DE, GT. Reportedly had a great workout with them.
20. Detroit Lions (from Dallas): Aaron Maybin, DE/OLB, Penn State. With the elite tackles gone assuming they dont trade up they will address their pass rush with the best player availible.
21. Philadelphia Eagles: Brandon Pettigrew, TE, Oklahoma State. We won’t even have the chance at him which is a relief to me.
22. Minnesota Vikings: Rey Maualuga, LB, USC.
23. New England Patriots: Robert Ayers, DE, Tennesee. Looks like the Peppers deal is dead.
24. Atlanta Falcons: Peria Jerry, DT, Missisippi. Who needs Glen Dorsey?!!! We got Matty ICE.
25. Miami Dolphins: Percy Harvin, WR, Flordia. Versitile, I can see him in the wildcat for sure.
26. Baltimore Ravens: Hackeem Nicks, WR, North Carolina. Clayton is progressing and Mason is gangsta but not getting younger.
27. Indianapolis Colts: Darrius Heward-Bey, WR, Maryland.
28. Philadelphia (from Carolina): Beanie Wells, RB, Ohio State.
29. New York Giants: Brian Robiskie, WR, Ohio State. Hopefully he won’t shoot a hole in his leg before pre-season.
30. Tennessee Titans: Evander Hood, DT, Missouri. Do their best to replace Haynesworth.
31. Arizona Cardinals: Donald Brown, RB, Conn.
32. Pittsburgh Steelers: Darius Butler, CB Conn. Lost Bryant McFadden in free-agency.
Please mock me and my mock draft as much as you see fit. I’m interested to see what everybody’s thoughts are.
As for the rest of the draft
Pick 55: Sean Smith, CB, Utah. Our secondary should be OK with the return of Von Hutchins, and the hopeful emergence of DeCoud and Chevis Jackson. Smith is raw but has HUGE upside which we can develop over time.
Pick 90: Marcus Freeman, LB, Ohio State. Our LB core will be in great shape with this pickup.
Pick 125: Emanuel Cook, SS, South Carlina.
Pick 138: Cameron Morrah, TE, California. Touchdown MACHINE.
Pick 143: A.Q. Shipley, C, Penn State.
Pick 196: Troy Nolan, FS, ASU BABY!! Watch out for him and Robert James. Remember who you heard it from!
D3
April 18th, 2009
11:14 pm
Evening Bird-Cage brethren! So close you can taste it. ESPN, good brew, hot-wings, and DRAFT BABY! Gonna have some brews watchin’ the Falcons take Pettigrew. Wow, that rhymes….and its entirely lame.
Some of you are probably wondering why my sudden change of heart on Matthews & Cushing. Well, after DOL’s latest mock I decided to do some research because I knew about Matthews lack of experience, but I just assumed that Cushing was a pretty dominant player for several years at the big-time program of USC. I was wrong. He pretty much came out to be a one-hit wonder in the same mold of Matthews. Matthews at least seems to have more upside.
If you could combine Matthews and Cushing you’d have a complete player, but Matthews is a nickel corner who will struggle against the run. We already have Stephen Nicholas entering his 3rd year and is ready to take over at WILL and a cover LB. Cushing is a good run OLB, but will struggle against the pass and is a big question mark due to injury and inexperience. DOL going with Sintim twice and Nookah becoming a convert got me looking at him and the guy was a stud that started all 4 years and got better every year. Could slide right in at SAM and we’d have Nicholas/Wire at WILL, Lofton/Gilbert at MLB, & Peterson/Sintim @ SAM would be the shiz.
That of course will be all for nought because we’ll be taking Pettigrew @ #24. Too good of a talent to pass up, great blocking skills, and not a burner, but doesn’t need to be. Blocker, 3rd down conversion machine, & red zone threat. If not Pettigrew, than Sintim, if not Pettigrew or Sintim, then English.
Falcon Devil
April 18th, 2009
11:20 pm
Correction on the Number 4 Seattle pick: A project Qb can be picked up later this draft (not round) or next year.
D3
April 19th, 2009
12:14 am
Seminole – on need for a 3rd running back. I’m curious to see what we’re going to do with Snelling. If you remember there was a battle in training camp between Thomas Brown and Snelling on who would be the 3rd RB. TBrown was well on his way to winning the job when he got horse-collared. Snelling showed some signs through the year, but projects more as a FB than a third RB. Do we carry 2 FB’s? Doubtful, but I have hard time seeing TBrown not making the team because of his great work on spec teams.
marko – what do you think about your question? Serious or mocking? Just trying to get creative with the curse words because you know the blog-eating monster doesn’t like’em.
Falcon Devil – yeah man I’m in. I suggested a similar proposal a couple of days ago, but got no bites. It’ll take me a little while to get my final first round up, but I say we should do a first round and Falcons draft.
Overall, great mock man. Only couple of disagreements: if Houston drafts an RB I think it will be more in the mold of big back like Beanie Wells. Think Houston goes D. Moreno goes to Philly. Peria Jerry to TB. Pettigrew to us. Hood to Colts.
Mock Draft Cinco.2 (’Grew Version)
1)Brandon Pettigrew – TE; Bills take T or DE, Eagles take Moreno
2)William Moore – S; Delmas & Chung gone, next best S
3)Cody Brown – OLB; Barwin, Freeman gone, next best OLB
4)Roy Miller – DT; Sammie Hill, Terrance Taylor also an option
5a)Keenan Lewis – CB; Big, strong, quick CB available
5b)Marko Mitchell – WR; Big, Tall, Fast, good complement to HD
6)Lydon Murtha – T; best OL depth available
And on that note………….
6 DAYS, 11 HOURS, 44 MINS, & COUNTING!!!!!!!
mobetter
April 19th, 2009
1:22 am
Here we go, I hope this will happen. the Gaints in bad need of a wr needs to pick b4 Baltimore and Miami fan give 24th and 5th round, for 29 2nd round and there 7rder. when picking 29 detroit wants this pick to move b4 tenn to get that de they give up 2 2nd ,3rd, and 7th so here are my picks at 33 s Louis Delmas 55te jared cook, 60 olb clint sintin 65dt derrick marks 90 cb macho harris how that?
mobetter
April 19th, 2009
1:35 am
4,5,6,7 get c, olb, dt,cb
Big Ray
April 19th, 2009
2:32 am
MARKO,
Oooooooh, sounds interesting! I wonder if that means anything? Oh, the suspense…
FALCON DEVIL,
Nice mock. I can’t knock anybody that takes the time to do all that.
D3,
I see the anticipation is killing you, too. My wife is going to banish me to the confines of the den upstairs (which doubles as my lair, and where I want to be for this anyway) just so she won’t have to watch me acting like a drug addict on draft day, LOL!
tbhawksfan
April 19th, 2009
6:03 am
RealGM 8.0 has us taking:
http://football.realgm.com/src_feature_article/102/20090409/2009_nfl_mock_draft_version_80_(post_cutler_trade)/
24. Atlanta Falcons: Peria Jerry, DT, Ole Miss.
He very well could be long gone by this pick, but Jerry fills one of a surprising many dire needs on the Falcons defense. That D won’t come close to 11 wins again, and Tom Dimitroff knows it. Jerry has the ability to control the interior line and has just enough explosion to make some backfield plays, precisely what the doctor ordered for Jon Abraham at DE.
#55: Cook Rated about as high as BP, available in the second.
#90: Mouton CB from Hawaii. I’d rather go for Barnes, bigger, faster and more upside.
We could still find a OLB/S and an OL. D, D and more D. Oh, and a TE.
#90:
marko
April 19th, 2009
7:57 am
T minus six and counting. Morning all, Orlando Might be on to something. He’s a bright guy and a snappy dresser to boot. Were starting to see the final mocks and the linebackers are falling a bit.
Some factors that seem to be in our favor us are that wide receiver is looking like this year’s offensive tackle. Last year a boatload of OT’s went in the first round. This year’s feeding frenzy could be at the wide receiver position. If so, good, we‘re already pretty well stocked at the position.
Quarterback, as many as three could be gone by the time the Falcon’s pick. So what, we already have ours.
Running back, not a popular first round position these day’s, but I find it difficult to believe that Knowshon and Chris Wells are still on the board when the Falcon’s pick. At any rate, lots of teams could use a good running back. Just not us.
Offensive tackle, hey, they haven’t gone out of style. As many as four could be gone by twenty-four. I happen to think that we will select an OT earlier than most suspect. Just not at twenty-four.
The three four affront to God, lots of teams are playing three four defenses these days; most are picking ahead of us. Does that tell us something? Three four teams don’t use traditional outside linebackers. They favor tweeners, too big for linebacker and too little for defensive end. This means that many of the teams that are in the market for a new linebacker, won’t be kicking the tires of any of the guy’s Thomas would consider ideal fits for us
. Let’s not overlook stupidity, Two or more teams will do something bone headedly stupid. It happens every year. Why should this one be any different?
Do the math, please I’m not very good at it, Twenty –four picks into the Draft and we’re looking to select a guy that’s rated in the top two or three at a position of need. Did somebody plan this? This Dimitroff guy is looking better everyday. Hell, I’m even starting to like his haircut.
marko
April 19th, 2009
8:09 am
Pay some attention to Scott Dorrell, DT Clemson, Before the start of last season he was very highly rated. I’ve read that he played most of last season with a sprained knee.I should think that a thing like that might slow a dude down a bit. Also some say he’s a little lacking in the stamina department, and would benefit from playing in a platoon system.Do we know anybody that runs one?
CC
April 19th, 2009
10:07 am
Remember the name Darius Butler, CB/S from UConn. He’s showing up as a late 1st in several recents mock drafts. Assuming Cushing, Matthews and Jerry are all gone at #24, I could see TD moving back to the late 1st/early 2nd round. Guys like Butler, Hood, Sintim, Delmas, Alphonso Smith and Kruger are similar to what we’d get at #24 so may as well move back and add a pick. Hopefully someone like Josh Freeman or Moreno will be available at 24 and someone feels motivaetd to move up to our spot.
Nookah
April 19th, 2009
10:13 am
D3, you’re on man. I’ll prepare my 1st round mock and also a Falcons Mock…Let’s go for it guys, what the heck have we got lo lose?
Calling all…..D3, Stirg, Big Ray, Seminole, Ken (you there?), WR, Irvin, Marko and every one else. D Led you know you straight. Lord knows you’ve been mocking from Day 1.
Falcon Devil, kudos to you Sir. As Big Ray says, I lift my hat to you for taking the time to do a complete mock. You have now influenced me to at least follow D3’s original suggestion. Winner get’s …..Bragging Rights!!!!!
Go Falcons!!!!
Nuff respect everytime!!!!
SeminoleWarrior
April 19th, 2009
11:34 am
Good morning my brothers…Marko, D3, K-Strick, Big Ray, Zup, D-Led, etc. If I forgot you, don’t fret…nothing but love for the posse. On a OJ bing here, someone bought out all the Red Stripe!!!
Falcon Devil, your mock is fine..we are actually in agreement on a few picks. However, if the Birds are looking at DT in the first, the choice will be Ziggy Hood…bank on it!! I can see it happening but my mock is based on what I see as the Falcons’ most pressing need, improved talent and play in the linebacker corps. It was the linebackers that failed more times than naught last season. DL play was not sterling but it was not as bad as the LB corps, especially in the intermediate pass game. We have got to improve that area and my selections do just that. Thoughts and opinions always welcome. So here is my Sunday update:
1) LB James Laurinaitis (SLB); 2) CB Mike Mickens or CB Coy Francies 3) LB Marcus Freeman (WLB), 4) DT Terrance Taylor, 5a) DT Sammie Hill, 5b) TE Brian Mandeville 6)SS Otis Wiley or Courtney Greene.
Post draft F/A signings: K Graham Gano (FSU), SS Troy Moore (Troy), G CJ Davis (Pitt), C Antoine Caldwell (AL), QB Stephen McGee TX A& M), TE Ryan Purvis (BC), TE Bear Pascoe (Fresno St.)
Speed, pass defense skills, versatility, and leadership are what have drawn me to the pair from Ohio State. Mickens and/or Franccies have the skills that are outstanding in either man/man or zone. Taylor and Hill are beasts with the capacity, under Sugar Bear’s guidance, to dominate in the middle. Mandeville has been under the radar but those with the dish are not surprise. He has been compared time and time again to the Giant’s Barvaro and current TE Kevin Boss. Not bad company I think. Last, I take Wiley and/or Greene. Physical guys with special team potential and a facet for making plays.
I’m ready for the challenges that are sure to come. I’ve heard all the pro and con arguments. The passion of which my brothers have for the team and the game is deep and I love it!! We have waited too d***ned long but TD and Smitty seem to have this thing moving along. I’m so hjungry for that parade down Peachtree and that Lombardi Trophy in ATL for not just one season, but several seasons. So let’s get it on!! GO FALCONS!!
SeminoleWarrior
April 19th, 2009
11:41 am
D3, we do not carry an extra FB on our roster and that is a mistake I feel. Snelling is not flashy but he is productive when given the time. Dallas wanted him last year but we wisely protected him. We can not let him move. And if it means listing as a backup FB to Ovie, then TD and Smitty should not hesitate to do so.
SeminoleWarrior
April 19th, 2009
11:46 am
Nookah and D3, I’m in. I will work on my full mock today. Will attempt to release it by 6pm or so. Have to do that quality time thingy with the First Lady today. This brother is no fan of sleeping on the couch…LOL.
tide1
April 19th, 2009
2:25 pm
,Actually, if we can pick up another 2, 3, or 4 by trading down, I’m all for it. This is one of the deepest drafts in memory for the first 4 rounds, and many talented kids will be available that could help the Birds immediately in rounds 2-4.
tide1
April 19th, 2009
2:27 pm
Seminolewarrior: You are a nut. Antoine Caldwell will go in round 3 at the latest and Stephen McGee will go in 3-4..Need to do some research, my man..
WR
April 19th, 2009
2:36 pm
Here’s the rough draft of my mock draft, I shook it up a bit because theres always so much smoke being blown in the early off-season stages of the draft process. I don’t see it as far-fetched so discuss or comment as you may, remember this is the rough draft. Seminole, Nookah, D3, Kstrickland,stirg and all my fellow bloggers have at it:
1.Detroit-Mattthew Stafford-Detroit gets its quarterback of the future and crosses their fingers in hopes he want bust a la “Joey Harrington”
2.St.Louis–Eugene Monroe
3.Kansas City–Micheal Crabtree, K.C, shakes up draft by taking Crabtree earier then expected, Coach Haley hopes to get his Fitzgerald
4.Seattle–Aaron Curry, pro-bowl lb peterson’s replacement falls into seahawks lap.
5.Cleveland–Brian Orakpo, Browns get a DE to help reshape defense
6.Cincinnati–Andre Smith, Coach Lewis believes he can mold talanted Tackle
7.Oakland–Jason Smith, Oakland gets some protection for Jamarcus Russell and realize the protection wasn’t the problem
8.Jacksonville–Jeremy Maclin, jags need DT help, but see value in the second round
9.Green Bay–B.J. Raji, stud NT to anchor new 3-4 defense
10.San Francisco–Everett Brown
11.Buffalo–Aaron Maybin
12.Denver–Mark Sanchez–Josh McDaniels comes out of hiding and hopes Sanchez will help him save face, pause for effect, no he WON’T
13.Washington–Rey Maualuga, Washington gets stud MLB to play behind Haynesworth and company
14.New Orleans–Chris Wells-saints want Mcallister’s replacement, but gets his clone as Wells continues the streak of being on the disabled list
15.Houston–Brian Cushings, Falcon fans rejoice because he’s off the board
16.San Diego–Tyson Jackson
17.Jets–Josh Freeman
18.Denver–Clay Matthews, Denver gets OLB for their new 3/4, Falcon fans breath a sign of relief the USC backers are gone
19.Tampa Bay–Peria Jerry, Bucs hope to find the next Warren Sapp but continue their slide into the days of old
20.Detroit–Micheal Oher–luck begins to turn for lion’s as their tackle of the future fall into their lap
21.Philadelphia–Knowshon Moreno–Eagles get Westbrook’s heir apparent
22.Minnesota–Percy Harvin, in need of OL help, but Harvin to explosive to pass up considering they have Peterson
23.New England–Larry English, Pats flirt with the idea of taking Pettigrew, but in the end take the DE they need
24.Atlanta–Brandon Pettigrew-Giants may want to trade up into this spot in order to get Heyward-Bey or Britt if Edwards trade not made, miami, Baltimore, and Indianapolis are all in need of receivers, if trade made with Giants falcons take Evander Hood
25.Miami–Darius Heyward-Bey, wildcat gets sound teeth on the outside
26.Baltimore–Kenny Britt, can Baltimore finally have a go to receiver
27.Indianapolis–Evander Hood, defense reloads and prepares for another SB run
28.New York Giants–Hakeem Nicks
30.Tennessee–Darius Butler
31.Arizona–Donald Brown
32.Pittsburgh–Max Unger
D3
April 19th, 2009
2:48 pm
Good sunday afternoon ‘boys! D@–, where’d the weekend go? Well, on the bright side we’re finally into the homestretch this week. Never felt like this week would get here. Hopefully, it won’t go by at a snails pace if we keep rockin’ out the good thoughts, analysis, and mocks. Got to finish this GD, MF, BS paper today, so some good posts and first round mock will have to wait ’till later.
Bird-Cage Mock Draft Competition
Rules
1)simply post your first round mock and Falcons entire mock before noon on sat. Any changes that need to be made, just write it in and I’ll replace any mocks or make any changes as needed.
2)I’ll copy and paste everybody’s to a document and re-post a couple hours before the Draft @ 4pm.
3)Most direct hits wins.
Any changes needed or thoughts on the competition? Excited as H— bros.
Falcon Devil & WR, I got yours, but if you need to change it, I’ll repplace the old one with your new one.
Get it going gents. Good stuff later. And on that note……………
5 DAYS, 21 HOURS, 11 MINS, & COUNTING!!!!!!!!
SeminoleWarrior
April 19th, 2009
4:09 pm
What’s up brothers. D3, I’m ready to post thought my man Tide 1 thinks I’m ready to be committed. It’s all good..I like a lively debate. T1, I’m awaiting your post brother. Beat the Warrior and the rounds are on me Saturday, okay? Nookah, Strig, K-Strick, D-Led, Big Ray, and all the posse, check me and keep me real as we have all done throughout this time leading up to the big day.
My own personal mock will differ from what I am posting as the entire first round. My preferences will not shield me from what I think most teams, including my beloved Birds, will do come their respective times on the clock. That said, Detroit will model themselves after us last season with two offensive and one defensive picks in the first 50. JAX and DEN will trade and Sanchez will go to the Broncos. Cleveland needs to run the ball and Wells can do that. Al Davis will be Al, shaking it up with MJ. JAX gets the DB help they needs big time. SD looks to get ready for life post LT with Moreno. TB has the making of one h**l of a pair of ends with Adams last year and Jackson this season. Ziggy and Sugar Bear will calm all the anger by mid-season in ATL. That all now said, here is my entire FIRST ROUND mock draft followed by my PERSONAL selections.
1) DET: QB Matthew Stafford.
DEN: (Via trade with JAX): QB Mark Sanchez
2) STL: OT Jason Smith
3) KC: LB Aaron Curry
4) SEA: WR Michael Crabtree
5) CLE: RB Chris Wells
6) CIN: DE Brian Orakpo
7) OAK: DE Michael Johnson
9) GB: DT BJ Raji
10) SF: OT Eugene Monroe
11) BUF: OT Michael Oher
12) JAX: (Via trade with DEN): CB Malcom Jenkins
13) WAS: LB Brian Cushing
14) NO: CB Darius Butler
15) HOU: LB Clay Matthews
16) SD: RB Knowshon Moreno
17) NYJ: QB Josh Freeman
18) DEN: LB Ray Maualuga
19) TB: DE Tyson Jackson
20) DET: DE Aaron Maybin
21) PHI: TE Brandon Pettigrew
22) MIN: C Alex Mack
23) NE: OLB Everrette Brown
24) ATL: DT Evander “Ziggy” Hood
25) MIA: DE/OLB Larry English
26) BAL: CB Alphonso Smith
27) IND: DT Peria Jerry
28) BUF: WR Hakeem Nicks
29) NYG: LB James Laurinaitis
30) TEN: DE Robert Ayers
31) AZ: RB LeShon McCoy
32) PIT: OT William Beatty
PERSONAL ATL MOCK DRAFT:
1) LB James Laurinaitis (SLB); 2) CB Mike Mickens or CB Coy Francies 3) LB Marcus Freeman (WLB), 4) DT Terrance Taylor, 5a) DT Sammie Hill, 5b) TE Brian Mandeville 6)SS Otis Wiley or Courtney Greene.
Post draft F/A signings: K Graham Gano (FSU), SS Troy Moore (Troy), G CJ Davis (Pitt), C Antoine Caldwell (AL), QB Stephen McGee TX A& M), TE Ryan Purvis (BC), TE Bear Pascoe (Fresno St.)
SeminoleWarrior
April 19th, 2009
4:19 pm
WR, I share the thoughts on the toughness of this draft. And you have one d**ned good set of picks there. We could have easily had a lot of the same choices. Falcon Devil already got props from the Teepee. Good luck brothers. D3, hope you got my “mock constitution”…sorry I was so long-winded.
SeminoleWarrior
April 19th, 2009
4:23 pm
WR, check your last five selections bro. You forgot Buffalo. They have pick 28 followed by the G-men.
D. Orlando Ledbetter
April 19th, 2009
4:39 pm
Doing some crash course research on Aaron Maybin. He could be the hybrid DE/OLB that unexpectedly slips to the Falcons. Cushing, Maybin and E. Brown are in that group. English is still in the mix, too.
Wonder if Buffalo got the 28th pick so that they can get Pettigrew.
tbhawksfan
April 19th, 2009
4:46 pm
Thanks to Edward 04/18 5:32am for the SI link.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/2009/draft/breakdowns/by_position/TE.html
I used this mock to base my draft:
http://www.thefootballexpert.com/mockdraft6.html
#24: Cushing 6’3” 243 4.69/40 OLB 4.09 (SI rating)
#55: Moore 5’10” 192 4.53/40 CB 4.01
#90: Vaughn 6’2” 221 4.41/40 SS 3.76
#125:Taylor 6’0” 306 5.26/40 DT 3.58
#138:Maiva 6’0” 230 4.75/40 OLB 3.63
#143:Shaughnessy 6’5” 266 4.85/40 DE 3.62
#176:Quinn 6’4 264 4.82/40 TE 3.52
I love this draft. The D is very much improved and ready to explode in the next year or so. LB could become one of the leagues best within a year. The Dline is no longer an issue and we make very good additions to the secondary. TE and OL still need work, but can’t do it all in this draft. An O lineman backup is not too difficult to find on the FA market and we will have five TE’s to work with.
D. Orlando Ledbetter
April 19th, 2009
4:49 pm
WR: Nice job with your mock.
DOMINIC HUGHES: McClure’s agent said the report was “untrue” and an “over-dramatization.” Otherwise, not worth of fulling up with a report.
BIG RAY: You have a few very good posts.
Time to start “tailgating” on the deck of the Hawks playoff opener. Stirg I don’t have and red stripes, but I like to jump over the Blue Moon.
D3
April 19th, 2009
5:02 pm
Got it Seminole. Mad props for going against the norm. I tried that with my NCAA bracket and chose FSU to go the Final 4; not such a good idea for me. Mine coming in a ‘bit. I won’t be the happiest camper if we take Hood. DT is too deep with run-stuffers and we already have a Down Tackle in Babineaux. Nice picks all around. Gotta get this GD paper done and I’ll be immersed in it later tonight.
D3
April 19th, 2009
5:05 pm
To date I have WR’s, Falcon Devil, & Seminole’s first round mocks saved on a document for the Bird-Cage Mock Draft Competition. Be nice if some brew were involved, eh?
dacha
April 19th, 2009
5:34 pm
Excellent idea, D3, I am in.
PROJECTED ROUND ONE
1. Detroit– QB Matthew Stafford
2. St. Louis– WR Michael Crabtree
3. Kansas City– OL Jason Smith
4. Seattle– QB Mark Sanchez
5. Cleveland– LB Aaron Curry
6. Cincinnati– OL Eugene Monroe
7. Oakland– WR Jeremy Maclin
8. Jacksonville– DT B.J. Raji
9. Green Bay– DE Brian Orakpo
10. San Francisco– DE Aaron Maybin
11. Buffalo– OT Andre Smith
12. Denver– DE Tyson Jackson
13. Washington– DE Robert Ayers
14. New England (trade with NO)– CB Malcom Jenkins
15. Houston– LB Brian Cushing
16. San Diego- LB Rey Maualuga
17. New York Jets– WR Darrius Heyward-Bey
18. Denver (from Chicago)– LB Clay Matthews, Jr.
19. Tampa Bay– DE Everette Brown
20. Detroit (from Dallas)– OT Michael Oher
21. Philadelphia– TE Brandon Pettigrew
22. Minnesota– QB Josh Freeman
23. New Orleans– DT Peria Jerry
24. Atlanta– LB James Laurinaitis
25. Miami– DE Michael Johnson
26. Baltimore– CB Vontae Davis
27. Indianapolis–DE Larry English
28. Buffalo (from Philadelphia)– LB Clint Sintim
29. New York Giants–WR Percy Harvin
30. Tennessee– WR Hakeem Nicks
31. Arizona– RB Knowshon Moreno
32. Pittsburgh– CB Darius Butler
FALCONS SELECTIONS
1) LB James Laurinaitis
2) CB Alphonso Smith
3) LB Marcus Freeman
4) TE Cameron Morrah
5) QB Graham Harrell
5) DT Myron Pryor
6) OG Andy Kemp
SeminoleWarrior
April 19th, 2009
5:38 pm
D3, I feel ya on going against the norms. I was too shocked to take the ‘Noles any further than the sweet sixteen. Can’t be a homer all the time. As far as the mock, I’m torn but going to trust the gut over the heart. Good luck with the paper bro….I certainly do not miss those days at all. HAWKS by 6 tonight!!!
D3
April 19th, 2009
5:49 pm
Dacha – got it bro’. Good mock. Everybody seems to think that the GD Eagles are going to take my boy Pettigrew. D— it!
Seminole – yeah, I thought your boys were hittin’ the hot streak at the right time. Boy, was I wrong. GO HAWKS! Gotta get the first one. How many BS calls will D-Wade get tonight?
One more page to go, and back to blog for some good mocks, analysis, and thoughts……….
SeminoleWarrior
April 19th, 2009
5:54 pm
Dacha is feeling what I’m saying about the LB corps and rolling with the Warrior!!. Mad props to him for having more guts that the Chief of the Teepee to actually select JL at 24.
As the posse knows, I’m on that ride in my personal ATL mock, but I think TD and Smitty will roll with Ziggy. Got to earn the point so that I can get the grand prize as well as the Red Stripe (LOL) that goes with the win.
dacha
April 19th, 2009
6:36 pm
D3: Yeah man, I know it…I would love to see Pettigrew in the ATL. Is Philadelphia good for anything?
SW: Hey bro, just got a gut feeling about the kid, even if he did play for OSU. He seems to fit the “Matrix” criteria that we have come to love.
WR
April 19th, 2009
6:54 pm
Seminole, thanks for the eye on my 28 to many red stripes or rather too many Margaritas with the misses last night (LOL). At 28 I have Buffalo taking Sintim, I will revise my draft later to reflect this error in judgement or extreme case of hangover, apparently, I can’t hang like I used to back in my Buckhead days. Man I’m not even old and looking at buckhead now and saying things like back in my buckhead days, I feel an odd sense of father time sneaking behind me.
SeminoleWarrior
April 19th, 2009
7:03 pm
WR, it’s all good. The posse always takes care of its own.
D. Orlando Ledbetter
April 19th, 2009
7:18 pm
First part of the five-part Falcons draft series is up online. Will be in Monday’s papers. We start off by looking at the linebacker position.
http://www.ajc.com/sports/content/sports/falcons/stories/2009/04/19/falcons_draft_preview_linebacker.html
Also, here’s the video link for the NFL.Com mock draft that I did. This was done last week, when I still had Sintim coming to the Falcons.
http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d80fcd013
D3
April 19th, 2009
7:43 pm
DOL – doing a great job, man. You finally moved me over to Sintim. You get all the props for bringing him out of the woods first. If its not Pettigrew, I’ll be somewhat disappointed if its not Sintim. And yes, even over my ‘former boys’ Matthews & Cushing. Any word on the Falcons Fan Blog? Out of all the people I emailed (like 7), you’re the only one that responded. Appreciate that.
SeminoleWarrior
April 19th, 2009
7:52 pm
DOL..I’m with D3. You are doing fine work my man. I truly want the Birds to place a premium on the LB corps in this draft. Though I am onboard with Laurinaitis and Freeman, I can learn to quickly live with Sintim. Keep it rolling my brother…you are the man!!
Ken Strickland
April 19th, 2009
8:49 pm
For me, working up a mock draft for the Falcons based on who we might draft if almost impossible. So, I looked at one of the latest mocks and then looked at who they had us taking with each pick. Then I looked at the players available that we could have picked in that rd. so, here goes.
THERE PICK–MY PICK
1st rd-OLB BCushing–DT PJerry. They had us bypassing OLB CMathews, CB VDavis, DT PJerry and TE BPettigrew. The Falcons have only drafted one DT(TLewis) since taking JBabineaux.
2nd rd-DT FMoala–OLB CSintim. We haven’t had a playmaking OLB since MBoley had his breakout yr. He can play OLB and rush the passer from a 3pt stance.
3rd rd-TE SNelson. I’ll stick with that.
4th rd-SS MHamlin. I’ll stick with that.
5th rd- DE MShaughnessy same
5th rd-OG TGreen, we don’t have a true backup OG on our roster.
6th rd-OLB SHodge
Laurenitis...really?
April 19th, 2009
9:01 pm
Why is there such a call for the Falcons to draft Laurenitis? Has he ever performed in a big game? Can you recall any big play made by him that was in the hole or backfield? In both championship games, he didn’t make any game changing plays. Against LSU he was exposed as a LB with no coverage skills and #71 for LSU was consistently pushing him into the defensive backfield. And against USC he was exposed again. He is a product of the WEAK Big10. I would take a reserve SEC or ACC LB before looking anywhere close to Laurenitis. He may be a serviceable NFL LB but he is definitely not worth a 1st round pick.
And last but not least, with his dad being a former WWF wrestler, I’m sure that steroids are in his past so there will be a considerable drop-off of performance in the NFL. If the Falcons use a 1st round pick on him, they are screwed.
JJ
April 19th, 2009
10:10 pm
My brothers….damn, burning up the blogs. I’ve gone from stirg/de petti to USC cool-ade. Now I’m off the USC cool-ade, to OSU: but no red stripe tonight (sorry nookay, all respect), tonight its GROLSCH!
You guys are slammin like the hawks tonight. I still think NT(brace) first, still love chung at 55, and would love TE NELSON IN 3RD (HE’LL BE GONE).
My humble, slightly grolsch’d opinion: TD will decide the T>Gonzo trade minutes before our #24 on sat. My final/only mock draft coming sat. -
am… winning draft king: red stripe, st. pauli, grolsch, ga. home brew..etc…north of 285: (dunwoody/alpharetta) I’ll buy first round!!! Go Falcons!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
dacha
April 19th, 2009
10:16 pm
L…really,
You make a good case, bro, and although I definitely agree with you on the weakness of the Big Ten when compared to the SEC, I obviously disagree with on Laurinaitis not being worthy of a first round draft pick. If he had elected to come out early last year, he would have been an absolute lock for a top ten selection. However, he felt obligated to his teammates and coach to return for his senior year. I respect that immensely. Laurinaitis was also a three time All-American and his production was always better than the previous year. All in all, I can see the hesitation concerning him. He is absolutely not as flashy as Matthews or as explosive as Cushing, but I think that overall he is by far more of a football player at heart. And to make a small note of his tendency to “disapperar” in the big games, I go back to point of the weakness of the Big Ten. Even the best LB is only as good as the d-line in front of him allows. But who am I to say that Laurinaitis is what we need? He could be a bust for all I know, I’m just glad that I don’t have to make the decision!
Check this article out with more info that I felt intriguing:
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/9472206/7-Points:-Don‘t-overlook-OSU’s-Laurinaitis-?MSNHPHMA
JJ
April 19th, 2009
10:21 pm
my bad, STIRG/ D3: your man Petti. may be a pawn for the “matrix”. Looks like he’s a philly. Would not at all be upset if we get him!!!
D3, how’s the paper? Many props my man, the only reason I didnt go for the masters was for that reason: lots of papers!!! You the man, got my vote for bird “blogger”.
Big Ray
April 19th, 2009
10:23 pm
D. LEDBETTER,
Thanks! Loving what you’re doing here. Keep it coming! And please tell us if there’s anything going on in the Gonzalez stuff or any draft trade-ups/trade-downs. And on the subject of Maybin, the word is he’s a project with huge upside, but most of that is at OLB. Hmmmmm. Interesting, but that word “potential” can be dangerous. As for Everette Brown…if a guy like him drops, I might have to drop everything and pick him up. You can never ignore a youngster who is that damn quick, that productive, and benches 480 pounds…
SeminoleWarrior,
Good point. Don’t sleep on Laurinaitis. This guy has been nothing but GOOD, GOOD, GOOD since he came on the scene. Won every major defensive player award in college, and has been consistent. The only thing that he has going against him is that he doesn’t possess “elite” athleticism. But his instincts are off the charts, he’s been producing the whole time, and he’s clearly ALWAYS around the ball.
I don’t know if we’d pick him over a guy like Cushing, but whoever gets this guy is going to get a high-character, fundamentally solid football player who will always help, never hurt, the defense.
JJ
April 19th, 2009
10:39 pm
How ’bout them Hawks? The last time I bought season tickets or cared about them was when we traded for Moses/Reggie! maybee ‘86?
SeminoleWarrior
April 19th, 2009
10:44 pm
L-really, eighteen tackles in a championship game is nothing I guess. While the entire OSU team did look bad against LSU, three turnovers going for 21 points will change a game big time. Against USC, the man still had six tackles in a losing effort and again, there were the turnovers. In the 2009 Fiesta Bowl, the man had 9 tackles in that game. So what is the point here? We can nick-pick any player at anytime. I recall that last season, while I sat there and watched it, our young QB Matt Ryan threw TWO crucial interceptions against the Panthers in a loss at Charlotte. Both turnovers led to scores. Did that cause Smitty to throw him under the bus. No. He learned from it, kept working hard, and progressed. The vaunted Glenn Dorsey did not look great in his KC debut last season after DOMINATING the SEC.
Find me a player, any player, or team that has not struggled at times. Mighty LSU struggled this past season with a supposedly loaded team. Alabama went down to an “overrated” non-BCS Utah team. Mighty OU was not match for the Gators. And the Arizona Cardinals, according to all the “experts” were the worst division winner heading into the playoffs this past season. Ask the Steelers were they that bad of a team.
Mindless chatter about a kid who just plays the game until the last whistle. They all have good and bad days my friend. The difference is that a winner keeps fighting. And it is the FIGHT in the BIG DAWG that determines the difference between a competitor and a champion.
I’m not saying that James Laurinaitis is the answer to all the Falcons defensive problems. I am saying that he is a safe pick, a guy with no baggage, a hard worker, disciplined and coachable, and plays his heart out. But yet, so do all these kids when they can. Perfection…I guess that is what you want. Well, the Falcons have never given us that. I personally will be VERY content with increased consistency. And as a long time fan, I see that coming into play now with Smitty and TD. And if Laurinaitis, Hood, Sintim, or anyone else can bring it to the table, I’m all for it. Laters, bro.
D3
April 19th, 2009
10:44 pm
Evening boys! Good responses to the Bird-Cage Mock Draft Competition. Got Falcon Devil, WR, dacha, & Seminoles saved. Send ‘em in because you can always change them if need be. So, here it goes
1)Detroit – Matthew Stafford, QB; Lions go Falcons route, get T later
2)St.Louis – Jason Smith, T; Big T to pave way for Steven Jackson
3)Kansas City – Aaron Curry, OLB; Great building block for new 3-4
4)Seattle – Eugene Monroe, T; Signed Housh, addresses Walter Jones inj.
5)Cleveland – Brain Orakpo, OLB/DE; OFF in decent shape; Rebuild DEF
6)Cincinatti – Andre Smith, T; The run on T’s begins
7)Oakland – Michael Crabtree, WR; Desperately fills need
8)Jacksonville – Jeremy Maclin, WR; Another desperately filled need
9)Green Bay – BJ Raji, DT; Great DT starts conversion to 3-4
10)San Francisco – Mark Sanchez, QB; Smith/Hill/O’Sullivan era over
11)Buffalo – Michael Oher, T; Need to replace Peters, grab DE later
12)Denver – Tyson Jackson, DE; Stick with Orton for now, rebuild D
13)Washington – Brian Cushing; Will shine behind Haynesworth
14)New Orleans – Beanie Wells, RB; Perfect complement to Reggie Bush
15)Houston – Malcolm Jenkins, CB; Focus on DEF continues
16)San Diego – Rey Mauluga, LB; Paired w/ Merriman….Watch Out!
17)NY Jets – Josh Freeman, QB; Fills obvious need w/ Favre gone
18)Denver – Aaron Maybin, OLB; Converts to OLB after drafting Jackson
19)Tampa Bay – Peria Jerry, DT; Replaces Jovan Haye and emaciated DEF
20)Detroit – Eben Britton, T; Keeps Falcons route, gets T to protect QB
21)Philadelphia – Knowshon Moreno, RB; Got Peters, Westbrook will be 31
22)Minnesota – Percy Harvin, WR; Perfect complement to Berrian/Peterson
23)New England – Clay Matthews, OLB; Good replacement for Mike Vrabel
24)Atlanta – Brandon Pettigrew, TE; Easy decision
25)Miami – Kenny Britt, WR; Perfect complement to Ted Ginn Jr.
26)Baltimore – James Laurinitus, ILB; Replacement for Bart Scott
27)Indianapolis – Ziggy Hood, DT; Nice help to Freeney & Mathis
28)Buffalo – Larry English, OLB; Get DEF after replacing Peters
29)New York – Kenny Britt, WR; Good replacement for Burress
30)Tennessee – Darius Butler; Vontae Davis too much of a risk
31)Arizona – Donald Brown, RB; Wells & Moreno gone, next best RB
32)Pittsburgh – Max Unger, T; Drafting for need
Fire away boys!
SeminoleWarrior
April 19th, 2009
10:57 pm
D3, hope you got the paper done bro. Big Ray, I just think this kid has the heart of a warrior that will not quit.
SeminoleWarrior
April 19th, 2009
11:01 pm
D3, Nice mock my brother. However, the Cheesesteak Factory will shatter the dream.
Nookah
April 19th, 2009
11:08 pm
Hey guys, not to worry, I’ll post my mock but I’m under some pressure here. Got some other very important things to take care of but will certainly meet the deadline. You know I won’t backdown from a challenge. Man this is exciting!!!!
Keep it up guys I really enjoy the posts.
D3, you’re large!!!! Nuff bigups!!!
Go Falcons!!!!
Nuff respect everytime!!!
SeminoleWarrior
April 19th, 2009
11:14 pm
Nookah, we know that you will represent in time. Hope that all is well and that matters are ok.
Marko
April 19th, 2009
11:25 pm
Marko’s Mocko
1 Detroit Lions: Matthew Stafford, QB Georgia, Calvin Johnson meets Stafford and a long painful nightmare ends in The Motorless City.
2 St. Louis; Eugene Monroe OT Virginia, or Jason Smith? Flipped a coin and Eugene’s a Ram. .
3 Kansas City: Jason Smith, OT Baylor Pioli Hopes that he never has to pay out this kind of money again. OT’s are considered the safest picks. And not even NFL owners enjoy throwing away thirty million dollars.
4 Seattle: Mark Sanchez, QB USC, We’ll see what Mora can do with a real west coast quarterback. The first Trojan leaves the nest. Many more to follow.
5 Cleveland: Aaron Curry, LB Wake Forest, No one should have to live in the mistake by the lake let alone the countries best player. If Sherman had burned down Cleveland, they’d have left it burnt.
6 Cincinnati: Andre Smith, OT Alabama, Some have questioned his character. What does that matter? He’ll be right at home with the Bengal’s.
7 Oakland: Michael Crabtree, WRTexas Tech, San Francisco’s arm pit gets the best wide receiver in the draft. If Randy Moss couldn’t help them, do you really think Crabtree can.
8 Jacksonville: BJ Raji, DT Boston College, Dry your eyes Smutty your ex gets custody of the Raji Man.
9 Green Bay: Brian Orakpo, DE Texas, Brian welcome to the town Lombardi made famous. They got a lot of chubby girls that are dying to meet you.
10 San Francisco: Jeremy Maklin, WR Missouri, Why not? They haven’t had a decent receiver since Terrell left them. Jeremy, they have a lot or pretty, pretty boy’s that are just dying to meet you.
11Buffalo: Aaron Maybin, LB DE Penn St., and No I didn’t name the same player twice. The last Aaron was a Curry. The only similarity is that I’m putting all the Aarons in hell holes.
12 Denver: Josh Freeman, QB Kansas, It’s hard to bring down a mile high city, but this one ought to do it. Denver used to have a QB, but a coach old enough to be Culver’s older brother traded him away to da Bears. Thus, providing me with my only opportunity to comment on the windy city. If Chicago is windy, the breezes were produced by bean eaters
13Washington: Robert Ayers DE Tennessee, The Redskins take the nations tried and true approach to everything, identify a problem, and throw money at it.
14New Orleans: Everette Brown, DE FSU, Strange as this may sound, I think the Saints got it right. Don’t worry they won’t make a habit out of it. I’ll leave it at that; those good folks have suffered enough.
15 Houston: Brain Cushing, LB USC, Trojan number two leaves the nest. The first landed in a city cold and rainy. This one gets hot and smelly.
16 San Diego Rey Maualuga, LB USC Look out folks it’s raining Trojans. Good news Rey you’re a millionaire. Bad news Rey you’re going to need it to buy a small condo. Could be worse Houston could have taken you instead of Cushing.
17New York Yankees: Tyson Jackson DE LSU, This is really the Jets pick, it’s just that all damn Yankees look alike to me.
18Denver Peria Jerry. DT Mississippi, No folks the names not backwards His first name is Peria and his last name’s Jerry .With two picks in the first round It’s nice that the worst defensive team in the league got to use one on defense.
19 Tampa Bay Larry English, LB DE N. Illinois Tampa really wanted one of the quarterbacks, but they didn’t suck quite bad enough to deserve one. Some scientists suggest that global warming might some day cause Tampa to submerge beneath the waves, I guess every dark cloud has a silver lining.
20 Detroit Knowshon Moreno, RB Georgia, The Lions have spent so much money on wasted number one picks, that they lack the funds to scout multiple schools therefore they once again take the best available Bulldog.
21Philadelphia: Brandon Pettigrew, TE Oklahoma St., Somebody told the Eagles that on distant planets tight ends actually blocked. They decide to give the radical new idea a try. Really, what more can you say about a city that gave the world John Kincaid.
22Minnasotta Eben Britton OT Arizona, Football scholars, do the Vikings or the Bills hold the record for losing Super Bowls? Actually they make pretty good beer in Milwaukee; drink enough of the stuff and the place doesn’t seem so bad.
23 New England: Connor Barwin LB DE Cincinnati, the Pats wanted to take Connor in the second round, but I suggested that they reconsider. Can you believe that they’re actually stupid enough to listen to me? The only good thing that ever came out of Boston currently works in flowery Branch.
24 Atlanta: drum roll please, with the twenty-forth pick the Atlanta Falcons select Clay Matthews, LB USC, once long ago, God created the perfect city, and he called it Marthasville. The locals, knowing that God had also created the duck billed platypus, didn’t have complete confidence in his judgment they renamed the place Atlanta. Anyway after Sherman punished us for our sins, God forgave us. On April the twenty Fifth, he’s sending us a shining knight with long flowing golden locks to keep evil doers out of our end zones. The faithful will rejoice.
25Miami: Vontae Davis, CB, Illinois, The Tuna selects a pretty good player. You’re pretty good old Tuna, but Dimitroff out picked you last year and he’ll do it again. On top of that, he’s loyal. You don’t seem to be able to commit to anyone for more than two or three years. Consider retiring.
26Baltimore. Percy Harvin WR Florida, Twenty-six picks and we finally get our first Gator. This seems like pretty slim pickings coming from a national champion. What more proof do you need for a playoff system?
27 Indiana: Evander Hood, DT Missouri, if you came from Lower Siberia, you’d probably find Indianapolis a pretty cool place. Coming from the show me yours and I’ll show you mine state, Evander might feel the same way.
28 Buffalo: Chris Wells RB Ohio State, Some of you might remember that I predicted that Chris would be gone by Atlanta’s pick at twenty-four. Well I guess this shows what I know. Giving the Bill’s two picks in the first round just doesn’t seem like any way to treat innocent young men.
29 New York Giants: Kenny Britt WR. Rutgers Seems to me that the giants might need a wide receiver, I suggest that they deniy him his second amendment rights for a decade or so.
30Tennessee Darius Butler CB Connecticut You’ve just lost a giant on your defensive line, it only seems logical that you’d replace him with a Munchkin in the backfield.
31 Arizona Donald Brown RB Connecticut, I really don’t figure three running backs going in the first round. Frankly I’m surprised that I made this pick. Wait a minute I predicted that somebody would do something stupid. I bet that this is the one.
32 Pittsburg: Max Unger OT Oregon when you’re tired and you really don’t know why you’ve picked a given player, Just rember to say that it’s a value pick. That a pretty good cover up for brain pharts both large and small. If we lived in a perfect world, this would have been our pick.
Laurenitis...really?
April 19th, 2009
11:26 pm
SW,
Take a look at the last 10 years of defensive rookies of the year. All came from the SEC or ACC with Brian Urlacher thrown in the mix.
http://football.about.com/od/nflhistory/a/nflawardsdroy.htm
In the meantime, there were PLENTY of Big10 LB’s that were can’t miss prospects that were definitely misses. Most came from the OSU too. Bobby Carpenter, taken in the 1st round by the Cowboys cannot even get on the field on special teams. Anthony Schlegel, another OSU LB, is an unheard of player. Throw in Posluszny (another can’t miss Big10 defensive player of the year) from Penn St. and you get my point.
SW, you say that Laurenitis is a “safe” pick but I’m of the opinion that you don’t draft a player in the 1st round because they’re a safe pick. You can draft a LB in the 2nd (a la Demeco Ryans 2006 def. rookie of the year). The Falcons have a chance to become something special but drafting “safe” players in the 1st round won’t make it happen, especially players that BOMBED at the combine.
As for his 18 tackles in the championship game, how many were memorable? How many helped change to tone of the game for his team. I have a link to a blog by an OSU fan that broke down that game and he could only find JL in on 7 tackles. If I can find the link again, I will post it. And turnovers or not, he got burned on both TD’s to LSU’s tight end (I think the tight end had 1 TD all year until facing him). Against USC, they ran all day at JL with success.
Big Ray
April 19th, 2009
11:41 pm
SeminoleWarrior,
You’re very much on point. Laurinaitis is nothing, if not very solid. Again, when I say I don’t know if we pick him over Cushing (given the opportunity to get either one), I’m just saying that I don’t know where he fits in Dimitroff’s “draft matrix.” I’m not saying he’s any less or more talented.
The simple fact is that there are NO QUESTIONS about Laurinaitis. He has two things against him:
1)Ohio State linebackers don’t have a glowing reputation draft-wise. But guess what? There’s a first time for everything, and a kid that produces, is a kid that produces.
2)He’s not “elite” in the athleticism department. Every year, there are guys who fall into this “non-elite” category. Every year, a group of these guys turns out to be much better than advertised, and become the gold standard at their position. And it can’t be said enough: Laurinaitis has produced year after year, 3 years in a row. How many others who have been shooting up the draft boards and played the part of media/draft pundit darlings, can say that? Very few.
If this guy is available, and Dimitroff and crew want him, vs some of the other more prominent names, then I trust them. I’d rather have a very solid guy next to Lofton than a boom or bust question mark.
At the same time, if they want Cushing instead, then I’m happy with that, too.
D3,
I think some people are caught up in sleeping on William Moore in the safety ranks (not that I’m accusing you of such). I’d LOVE for him to “fall” to us. I actually would not rate him behind Chung and Delmas. Delmas’ stock rose quickly after a great senior bowl and some good combine workouts.
Chung has been pretty good, and had a solid combine as well.
But Moore is a different story in some ways. He had an OUTSTANDING junior year, with several interceptions. But his senior year went by without the same jaw-dropping stats. People see this, and figure it’s the end of the story. But it’s not. The fact is, Moore’s size and ability against the run made him capable of playing like a linebacker. Sure enough, throughout his senior year, he was pulled up close to the line of scrimmage on the regular, most likely due to holes in Missouri’s overall defense…again, most likely against the run.
Hard to get a pile of interceptions when you’re playing more of a linebacker role than you are a ball-hawk in the secondary. Watch some of his tape and see that he still made very good, very effective plays, and was never really out of range of the play action.
Moore is the real deal, and has possibly the most size/hardest hit at the position. Whoever picks him up will be pleased.
SeminoleWarrior
April 19th, 2009
11:42 pm
L-really. I do not doubt anything that you have posted. It’s all good stuff. But I’m simply feeling that this kid is capable of being just as good as any other LB in the draft. Our coaches can and will help resolve any issues in his game. I repeat..at any given time, anyone can have a bad day. Only time will tell my friend. I admire your resolve though.
Marko
April 19th, 2009
11:43 pm
Coach Smith, I’m sorry. it looks like I missed my i key and called you smutty by mistake. Ihad meant to type Smitty. My comment makes a little more sense that way. Besides we all know that only your wife calls you Smutty.
SeminoleWarrior
April 19th, 2009
11:45 pm
All of these kids are considered “safe” until they prove their worth. All of them will not be “home runs” but we have to take a chance in this process. TD and Smitty will get it done..I have full faith. And if I am wrong, as several of my brothers here in the posse, to include you L-really, have indicated, I will then lick my wounds, trust Smitty and company to get it done, and move on. Again, I admire your resolve.
D3
April 19th, 2009
11:50 pm
seminole – gotta disagree with you brother. From what I’m hearing they’re pretty happy with Celek, especially since he was only a rookie last year. He was the reason that LJ Smith became expendable. Also remember that Correll Buckhalter signed with the Broncos and Westbrook is over 30 and has been injury prone the last couple of years. I’ll agree with you that if Moreno is gone then its a good possibility, but he is the perfect replacement for Westbrook: tough runner, great out of the backfield, and a good blocker.
nookah – no rush brother. Got ’till saturday @ noon.
JJ – H— Yeah, I’m done with that D@– paper, maybe the worst ever, but its DONE!!!!!
SeminoleWarrior
April 19th, 2009
11:54 pm
D3, good luck with the paper. And remember bro, my shoulders are wide enough to support you when the Cheesesteak Brigade comes through..LOL. Just kidding, a very good mock. This is going to be very interesting. We will see how the changes unfold as the week passes.
D3
April 19th, 2009
11:58 pm
marko – got your mocko. nice job man, but remember the Lions drafted Kevin Smith last year at RB, so I don’t know about the Moreno pick.
You a Scout?
April 20th, 2009
12:11 am
Gee, I guess since the other linebackers coming from Ohio State weren’t that good, then Laurinaitis has no chance. Somebody call him and tell him his destiny is already written. By a blogger with no name, no less….
By the way, I thought there were 11 players on defense, not just 1. Hmmm.
And what makes a tackle “memorable?”
So, if you don’t make Defensive Rookie of the Year, does that mean you’re a bust?
Hey, I heard Laurinaitis didn’t even suit up for that game against LSU. I had an OSU fan tell me he that.
I guess only Big10 “can’t miss” players become busts. That sure doesn’t explain all the other “busts” in and out of the NFL.
Big Ray
April 20th, 2009
12:20 am
Marko,
You are CRAZY
. Smutty…
SeminoleWarrior,
It doesn’t matter if you’re right about Laurinaitis. All that matters is that we get the right guy. Having said that, I don’t think you’re wrong about him succeeding in the NFL.
D3
April 20th, 2009
12:31 am
Its so close now gents. 5 days of work, bloggin’, and mockin’ and its finally HERE! Hard to believe actually. Haven’t been this excited about a draft ever. And the draft is one of my favorite events every year, but the great dialogue, analysis, and thoughts will make this years the absolute best.
Saved the following mocks for our competition: WR, Seminole, Falcon Devil, Marko, dacha, and mine. Final mocks due saturday @ noon. On the line……Ultimate Bragging Rights!
If my boy Pettigrew is not taken, here’s who I want us to grab in order of preference:
1)Pettigrew
2)Sintim
3)Maybin
3)English
4)Matthews
5)Cushing
Wow, how my preferences have changed. Anyone have some oxycodone for the withdrawals I’m gonna have after the draft? I know my House CEO will be happy.
See you on the flip side boys. And on that note…………….
5 DAYS, 11 HOURS, 29 MINS, AND COUNTING!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Big Ray
April 20th, 2009
1:13 am
Man, everywhere I look…..everybody and their cousin has us taking Pettigrew if he’s available at our pick. Buuuuuut….other mocks have him going to Philly.
Then, it’s either Peria Jerry or DJ Butler they have us taking. Interesting.
mobetter
April 20th, 2009
1:31 am
trade down to 29 this mean that falcans will have two pick in one of the 2,3,4 round this yr is not a great draft if so why detroit hasnt sign yet? there 3 good qb this it. so pick ss at 29 dt,te, lb can all wait tell the other round.
mobetter
April 20th, 2009
1:34 am
there are no great player in this yr draft just good one that will make team better.
Big Ray
April 20th, 2009
2:09 am
It appears I was listening to the wrong person and succeeded in making a fool out of myself. Here is the proper definition for “3-technique”, “4-technique” and so on, per the defensive tackle position:
The linemen on the offensive line up a few feet away from each other. This leaves gaps between the linemen. These gaps are both lettered and numbered. The gap between the guard and tackle is called the B gap. If you are a defensive tackle lined up in the B gap, but shifted over a bit towards the guard, you’re called a 3-technique. If you were lined up in the same gap but shifted over a couple feet to line up on the tackle’s shoulder, you would be a 4i-technique. If you lined up head up on the tackle, you would be considered a 4-Technique. The “i” stands for inside shade. Head-up techniques are always even-numbered, and Odd numbered techniques on the outside shoulder are odd-numbered. However, if you are shaded inside of the offensive lineman you are on, you keep the even number and just put the “i” beside the number. The only exception to this rule is on the center. This is because there is no inside or outside shade of the center. If you line up on any shade of the center, you are considered to be in a 1-technique. If you line up directly facing the center, you’re called a nose tackle or a 0-technique.
Nose tackles are either two-gap players (in a 3-4 scheme) or 1-technique players (in most 4-3 schemes) and are typically very big and very strong men. These guys have the responsibility of clogging up the entire center of the field, of keeping the center and at least one guard busy, and thereby protecting their middle linebacker. The nose tackle will also be responsible in passing plays to push the center back towards the quarterback so that the quarterback cannot step up in the pocket and evade the rush of the defensive ends. A good nose tackle can be hit simultaneously by 650 pounds of center and guard and will not budge as much as one inch.
Occasionally, a defensive scheme will ask both defensive tackles to essentially play as nose tackles, one trying to occupy both the center and a guard, and the other trying to occupy the opposite guard and the corresponding tackle. If successful, this leaves a tight end trying to block a defensive end on one side, and the other tackle left to block the other defensive end, leaving the responsibility to blocking the three linebackers, be it if they are blitzing a pass or preventing a run, to the running backs. This strategy requires two nose tackles who either are very good at two-gap play or two defensive tackles that can successfully clog the gap they are assigned, and two athletic ends who can beat a blocker to the outside for pass rush, but can be very effective if the talent is there. This style was the preferred defensive scheme of the 2000 Baltimore Ravens, a top-5 defensive team of all time and the best defense at stopping the run in the modern era.
A 3-technique tackle lines up between the offensive guard and tackle. A 3-technique tackle is supposed to run through his gap immediately while being alert for different schemes such as trap and sweep and things of the like. He is a B-Gap player. He also has to be able to think very quickly and react to anything as if it is instinct. His job is not to block or get tied up in a block, but rather to be athletic and get himself into the offensive backfield and disrupt their plans. Because of this a 3-technique tackle is a lighter, more athletic guy than a nose tackle.
Marko
April 20th, 2009
6:55 am
Morning all, I sincerely hope my mock didn’t offend anyone. It was intended as fun. In the event that I did offend somebody I’m sorry. Consider it paybacks for thirty years of Alabama jokes.
D3, you’re right man I forgot all about Smith being in Detroit. The truth is I’m a Falcon fan first and a football fan second. When I do these things I more concerned about who will be off the board when the Falcon’s pick than where they actually land. Once they’re off the board, they’ve joined the forces of darkness. My focus is on who Dimitroff will select to defend us from these evil fiends.
Big Ray thanks for the gap stuff. Over the years line play has evolved in complexity to the point that you literally have to check out a nose tackles Wonderlic scores. By the way I wouldn’t be too worried about looking foolish On occasion. I’ve survived third degree embarrassment more times than I care to remember I think it was Nietzsche that said the stupid stuff we do that doesn’t kill us, makes us smarter. I’m not really sure Nietzsche said that. It might have been Homer Simpson.
SeminoleWarrior
April 20th, 2009
8:08 am
Good morning my brothers. Marko, looks good and I’m sure you will adjust the Moreno pick because Ithink Detroit has a good one in Smith already. Big Ray, thanks for keeping in check. I’m with you; all we need is the right gut when it is our time to roll the dice. Note the reference in there about Smitty’s 2000 Baltimore Ravens tackle pair. Tony Siragusa (330) and Sam Adams (295)…now imagine the following for the Birds. A rotation that includes Lewis (320), Taylor (315), Hill(330), and/or Hood (305) and pair them with Babs (290) and Anderson (290). I like that rotation in any configuarion that Smitty would seek to use it. Big pluggers inside with quick, penetrating tackles. This move and the upgrade of the LB corps will result in noticeable improvement in the defense.
SeminoleWarrior
April 20th, 2009
8:16 am
Okay, I’ve had my OJ and am fully alert. Mike & Mike on the tube. They will have McShay live in an hour; that should be interesting. Going over the mock to see if I want to make any adjustments. Personally,I’m still with JL but in my quest for the UBR heavyweight title, I’m going to stay with Ziggy Hood. D3, I want my title belt to be as big as the WWE belt, golden letters with “SEMINOLE WARRIOR” surrounding a diamond football….LOL. Heck, I may even get me a “Ric Flair” like robe and some honies, strut out on the GA Dome floor, and declare my win.
Ok, I’m a nut, it’s early on a Monday and not much going on today in the world of Meteorology. Catch the posse in a few.
Hollywould
April 20th, 2009
9:44 am
I saw on the Gwinnett scan that Brent Grimes was arrested last nite. Don’t know what that means but enforces my outlook that we need defense, no Gonzalea, no Pettigrew, DEFENSE
I MUS.WRITE
April 20th, 2009
9:52 am
Whats up everybody, Nooka -I have never tried Guiness and redbull but I will put that on my list. Guiness is good for male labido-Now putting Redbull on top of that…..Wow my lady probably wont let me oput of her site LOL…….
Big Ray Whats going on my man- Yeah they got me working like crazy right now- I been outta town as well, but i have been reading the posts when I get a chance….
I took a 24hr road trip to SAV to see my new neice, the nex time im down there for more than a day we gotta hit wild wings for sum brews
Lots of intresting scenarios about the draft- Ive read so many mocks that my brain is fried -im ready for the real thing .. I dont know who we will get at #24 and Its not really a big deal as long as we get sum Big boy’s up front and a solid linebacker like Z Follete.
Im so readt for nex saturday, i think im gonna leave work early HAHAHA. Torn between first love and my mistress….. Atlanta Hawks(playoffs)——- Falcons(Draft)…… I guess i better enjoy it because there is a long boring summer on the horizon with baseball on every channel……. UUUUUUGH
BOW TIE- Whass going on – Best mock to date -
WR
April 20th, 2009
10:24 am
D3 my man, nice mock, check your selection for kenny Britt, you have him going to miami as ted ginn’s replacement and to New York as the replacement for Burress. Seminole, kind of worried about little animal, for some reason I just don’t trust Ohio State players in the pros, but I agree from a stat standpoint he’s a beast.
D3
April 20th, 2009
11:32 am
Good AM Gents! Finally, in the last week before the draft. Definitely the most exciting as we are only days away from one of the best events of the year. Will there be any moves this week that will affect our mocks? We’ll see. Got some good responses for our mock draft competition. Got dacha, WR, Seminole, Marko, Falcon Devil, and mine saved.
Ken Strick, I,MUS., Nookah, JJ, Tyger, Big Ray, and anyone else I missed where you guys at? Got ’till noon on saturday.
Seminole – I say go with the Goldberg Title Belt if you’re declared champ. You know you’ll get your props if you take home the title. You got a good mock going on, but all your trade scenarios kind of box you in a little. But if you pull it off, we’re going to hit vegas!
WR – thanks for catching that mistake. I had Robiskie going to the Giants originally, but I subbed in Laurinitus to Baltimore. Offical change below.
Hollywould – agree with you on going DEF first, but the only exception to make is if Pettigrew is available. Our offense will be taken to another level for years and years to come.
I.MUS – Man, agreed. I would say I’m mocked out, but like you I know what’s around the corner. Besides the post-draft analysis buzz, the snippets from training camps and OTA’s, its the long drag of baseball and boredom with a couple of golf majors thrown in the mix. Love going to The Ted to see the Bravos, but baseball TV watching is so slow.
Big Ray – thanks for the refresher on DT’s and techniques. I finally had to learn the bones about techniques when I started coaching on the middle school level, where I teach.
Below is a ‘Just for Fun’ DEF first mock for the Falconi’s (Still thinkin’ and hopin’ its my boy ‘Grew).
1)Clint Sintim – OLB
2)Shawn Nelson – TE
3)Chip Vaughn – SS
4)Roy Miller – DT
5a)Keenan Lewis – CB
5b)Zach Potter – DE
6)Lydon Murtha – T
**D3 Mock Change Alert**
As WR pointed out, I have Kenny Britt listed twice. Keeping Kenny Britt going to the Giants, but now have Darius Heyward-Bay going to Miami.
5 DAYS, 0 HOURS, 27 MINS, AND COUNTING!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WR
April 20th, 2009
12:01 pm
D3 is now on the Pettigrew bandwagon, I have been preaching Pettigrew from the beginning, tried a sip of the USC kool-aid, got a taste of the animal crackers, but I still believe picking this late, the birds solidify the offense and focus on the defense the rest of the way. Theres no point in having a gunslinger if he has inadequate weapons, birds take Pettigrew if available, if not birds take either Jerry or Hood, or trade out to gether more picks. TE value runs deep but not in the sense of a combo TE, DT is a strong need but birds find one or two later in the draft. There is not a LB at 24 that could help right away, if there was he wouldn’t be there in the first place. Updated draft coming Wednesday, oh so close, I can’t wait.
Nookah
April 20th, 2009
12:17 pm
What’s up y’all? Well it’s about that time. I’ve mulled over this enough, and what the heck, I’ll give it my best shot.
Jags – Crabtree 9) Pack – Raji 10) 49ers – Micheal Oher 11) Bills – Cushing 12) Broncos – Everette Brown 13) Redskins – Mark Sanchez 14) Saints – Chris Wells 15) Texans – Clay Matthews Jnr. 16) Chargers – Maualuga 17) Jets – Josh Freeman 18) Broncos – Tyson Jackson 19) Buccs – Peria Jerry 20) Lions – Fil Maola 21) Eagles – Knowshown Moreno 22) Vikings – Heyward-Bey 23) Patriots – Larry English 24) FALCONS – CLINT SINTIM 25) Dolphins – Sean Smith 26) Ravens – Kenny Britt 27) Colys – Robert Ayers 28) Bills – Brandon Pettigrew 29) Giants – James Laurinitis 30) Titans – Percy Harvin 31) Cardinals – Donald Moore 32) Steelers – D.J. Moore
1) Lions – Jason Smith 2) Rams – Eugene Munroe 3)Chiefs – Aaron Curry 4)Seahawks – Stafford
5) Browns – Orapko 6) Bengals – Andre Smith 7) Raiders – Maclin
Falcons Picks:
1) Clint Sintim LB
2) Marcus Freeman OLB
3) Roy Miller DT
4) Woodny Tureene CB
5a) Dan Gronkowski TE
5b) Sammie Lee Hill DT
6) Garrett Reynolds T
There you have it buys. That’s my stab.
Go Falcons!!!!
Nuff respect everytime!!!!
I don’t wanna wait in vain………..Robert Nesta!!!
D3
April 20th, 2009
12:19 pm
Interesting article from draftcountdown.com Does player comparisons of draft picks with current NFL players. Just a few of note:
Brandon Pettigrew – Daniel Graham
Ziggy Hood – Cory Redding
Fili Moala – Shaun Cody
Ron Brace – Jamal Williams
Sen’derrick Marks – Glenn Dorsey
Brian Cushing – Bobby Carpenter
Clay Matthews – Chad Greenway
Clint Sintim – Marcus Washington
Connor Barwin – Mike Vrabel
Marcus Freeman – David Thornton
Cody Brown – Shaun Phillips
Louis Delmas – Tyrell Johnson
William Moore – Bernard Pollard
Chip Vaughn – Sean Jones
Rashad Johnson – Michael Griffin
Patrick Chung – James Sanders
Entire article:
http://www.draftcountdown.com/features/Prospect-Comparisons.php
I MUS.WRITE
April 20th, 2009
12:54 pm
HMMMMMM…. intresting D3, If these predictions come to light then give me Chip Vaughn,Ziggy Hood and Fili Moala. Thats the start of sumthing special…
We need a combo of Sammie Lee Hill- Jarron Gillbert -Roy Miller…..2 of the 3 would make me a happy man.
I think Jason Snelling should get more carries this year, he is a horse and runs with power.
I MUS.WRITE
April 20th, 2009
12:57 pm
Good mock Nookah…I could see the draft going exactly like you have it……. Be careful tho you dont wanna show up Bow Tie, he might start eating posts again LOL
SeminoleWarrior
April 20th, 2009
1:54 pm
I Mus., I agree with you. I would love to see Snelling get more carries as to take some of the pressure off of Turner and have him ready just in case. As I have said here previously, I love “Tiptoe” Norwood’s speed and hands, but he can not hit the hole with the power and strength that Turner and Snelling can. My brothers here tell me that Brown is a secret weapon…I’ll defer to their judgement. But I think that if he is given the chance to show his stuff more, Snelling is going to surprise people.
Looking good Nookah…
WR…our man D3 is not going to give up on Pettigrew. I’m going to send him a twelve of his favorite if it is the ‘Grew.
db523
April 20th, 2009
1:54 pm
Funny how you mention the “handcuff” incident about Cushing but gloss over the fact that it was Sanchez who was being detained for a possible rape. Cushing just happened to be his roommate. nice reporting
D3
April 20th, 2009
2:22 pm
Quick hit @ work, more later:
WR – I’ve been on the Pettigrew wagon for about a week or so now, but I have been all over the map in recent weeks for sure. I’m taking my stand in the Pettigrew concrete, with a close second going Sintim.
Nookah – nice mock. I got it saved. Hey, I’ll be happy with Sintim OR Pettigrew, but more happy with my boy.
I.MUS – yeah, you better watch out for the blog-eating monster. He’s hibernating right now, but can strike at any moment. I could see us taking a 2nd DT only if we get more picks. I definitely could see us grabbing one the post draft, FA route instead.
Nookah
April 20th, 2009
2:29 pm
Hey guys, I made an error. I said Donald Brown forn the Cardinals, I meant Donald Brown RB.
My bad!!!!
Go Falcons!!!
Nuff respect everytime!!
Ken Strickland
April 20th, 2009
4:30 pm
Here’s what bugs me. I see players that are projected as 1st rd picks, like the USC LB’s, that might be products of a system and benefiting from being surrounded by a wealth of talent. Then I see players that are projected as 2nd and 3rd rd picks, but they’re just as physically talented, if not more so, with more upside and/or potential.
One of the problems all of us have when we try to decide who we want the Falcons to draft is not knowing what kind of DEF scheme we’ll be expecting them to play. Acquiring the #1 rated cover CB in college or the NFL will be a waste if we expect him to play primarily zone DEF, expecially cover 2 zone. A cover 2 CB like Tampa Bays RBarber might excel at the position, but not if he’s asked to play man coverage. Only one of our current CB’s is rated as a cover 2 CB, VHutchins. All of our current CB’s are rated as much better man coverage defenders, and none have been rated high for their zone coverage skills.
We currently have 6 interchangeable safeties on our roster(TDeCoud, EColeman, AHarris, JFudge EBrock and MPaschal) and I just don’t see us using a high pick acquiring another safety. I don’t think TD and Smitty had any intention of resigning SSLMalloy, which is why they drafted TDeCoud. It doesn’t appear DeCoud has done anything to make them think they made a mistake in drafting him last yr. I just don’t see us using a high pick on another potential starting SS just to replace the player that was drafted last yr to be a potential starting SS.
I don’t see any one man wrecking crew type DT’s in this draft, but there are definitely some very good potential playmaking types, as well as some roadblocks types.
Big Ray
April 20th, 2009
7:19 pm
D3,
I think it’s clear across the board at this point that Dimitroff, Smith, and crew are very interested in getting a tight end. It’s going to happen (unless I’m dead wrong, and so are a bunch of guys who get paid to talk football) one way or another. I think the big thing will be where and when. It’s looking more and more like it will be the draft, but I wouldn’t rule out Mr. Gonzalez completely. Just a hunch….But we can probably let that idea go if 1)We draft Pettigrew, or 2) We draft another TE before the 5th round. Until then…
On the subject of Defensive Tackles, that’s what I played in high school. Nobody ever referred to anything as 3-technique or 4-technique. It was all “A gap”, “B gap”, and so on. It was news to me too, man.
MARKO,
I appreciate it, man. I felt like a natural born idiot when I decided to check up on myself (and the homie who told me the wrong stuff) on that “technique” stuff. Whew! Learned something new. And man, let me say. Your sense of humor is too much! I catch a lot of the in-between-the-lines stuff you say, and it’s just hilarious.
IMUS,
How about that whoopin’ our Hawks put on the Heat last night?! I recorded the game and am going to watch it AGAIN, just for the hell of it. Hey, next time you are comin’ down, lemme know. It’s on.
KEN STRICKLAND,
You ability to shift gears and re-focus is just phenomenal. Every time we think we’ve talked ourselves into a red and black funk, and can’t say anything new, you put fresh perspective on things! I LOVE it.
Big Ray
April 20th, 2009
7:29 pm
NOOKAH,
Nice mock. I will be interesting to see just how close that is to what actually happens.
AS AN ASIDE GUYS…..
I have some of the same issues that D. Ledbetter has, when it comes to blogging. I do the Hawks Hacks fan forum with my blogging partner(yes, this is a shameless plug
) and sometimes it’s easy to simply forget to check the system to see how many posts are either awaiting moderation, or somehow made it into the spam queue, because the system we use thinks the comment is spam.
And I know D. Led gets a lot more responses on his blog than me and my partner in crime do (he’s the real writer, we’re the “hacks”). And he’s very, very busy with all that he has to do. Unlike me, he makes a living doing this. So please do try to understand when not all of your posts make it onto the blog, it’s not purposeful in any way.
The filters can be kind of wacky, and can be triggered by things that the beat writer, columnist, or other blog host (freelance writer like myself) did not set up. That, and he probably doesn’t always have time to constantly check and see what the system is doing to all the comments (that, and you have to read them through before approving them, and removing them from whatever filter gobbled them up).
And I know most of y’all aren’t really angry with him, but cut him a bit of slack. Trust me when I say that it’s “the system.” It’s new, and it’s “learning.”
Peace!
Seminole Warrior
April 20th, 2009
7:46 pm
K Strick, I like your remarks on the defensive configuration. Which leads me to a very important question. Is Van Gorder up to the task as a NFL defensive coordinator? Will Smitty take a more active role in the defensive play-calling this season? We are, as you noted, saturated at certain positions but it seems that VG’s scheme was “feeling” folks out last year. Am I wrong or do you see it the same way?
Marko
April 20th, 2009
8:41 pm
Guy’s I’m at a total loss, I’ve beaten my brains, such as they are, half to death. Both Smitty, and Dimitroff came on board stressing the need for Strong interior lines. They were talking about both the offensive and defensive side of the ball. I was sure that Smitty would build huge interior lines like the ones he coached at Jacksonville and Baltimore. Now year two the closest thing I’ve seen to an interior monster that the Falcons have shown even polite interest in, is Duke Robinson the offensive guard. Great kid, but on the wrong side of the ball to suit our needs. I’m confident that we can land quality LB’s And DB’s But who are the interior defensive linemen that are supposed to anchor our defense? If you count every name we’ve run up the flag pole, we’ve covered just about every defensive lineman likely to be drafted. Our Guy or guys are hiding in that list somewhere I just don’t have a clue who they might be seriously considering. As far as I know, Fili Moala is the only DT they’ve worked out. If you guys have any info I’ve missed, feel free to share it with me.
darrell starks
April 20th, 2009
8:56 pm
No way past on cushing at 24#. GO FALCONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Seminole Warrior
April 20th, 2009
9:20 pm
Feeling you Marko which is why I think Coach Hamilton’s quotes from a year ago are so telling as we approach this draft. I shared them with the posse a couple of times but I will repeat them again here. It is also why I choose Ziggy Hood with the pick at 24.
This quote from defensive Line coach Sugar Bear Hamilton: 7/17/2008
“You can get the job done with smaller guys but you have to be a very disruptive defense in order to stop the run,” said Hamilton, who coached Pro Bowl defensive tackles John Henderson (325 pounds) and Marcus Stroud (306 pounds) in Jacksonville. “Offensive lineman are big, fat hogs that hold you if you let them. That’s why it’s tough for defensive linemen to come into the league and be successful if they don’t have a good coach to teach them how to use their hands and keep offensive linemen from holding them.”
darrell starks
April 20th, 2009
9:20 pm
Brian cushing lb USC pick 24#
Sean smith safety UTAH a still at pick 55#
Asher allen cb UGA will be a solid cb in the NFL pick 90#
Dorrell scott DT CLEMSON big and strong 6′4 320 day one starter pick 125#
GO FALCONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Seminole Warrior
April 20th, 2009
9:49 pm
Marko, if your synopsis is correct, then it would appear that we are moving towards a Tampa 2 style defense which would be contrary to Smitty’s montra. Speed on defense is plentiful in this draft to support such as scheme but as K Strick assessed earlier, we do not have the secondary to support it. A very interesting situation….comments, all?
Big Ray
April 20th, 2009
9:51 pm
MARKO,
I understand the confusion. But if they don’t feel confident that they can get the players that fit those descriptions, with the picks that we have, then they have two options: 1) trade up or down accordingly, or 2) do they best they can to fill in at other needs/positions.
They may decide to go “smaller” with a guy like Hood or Jerry. My only problem with Jerry is do we really want to go with a 25 year old rookie who might have trouble learning our system? I don’t know…and I could be wrong about my fears of him not being the impact player we want.
There’s just no telling…and we still have the whole tight end thing to deal with.
Big Ray
April 20th, 2009
9:58 pm
SeminoleWarrior,
As good a question as any. One thing has been maintained/reported, and that’s the fact that Dimitroff and Smith have remained on the same page with everything. If there has been a change in plans for the defense, both guys are on board with it, and they are playing this very close to the vest. Who really knows?
Mystery, mystery, mystery. Just more suspense added onto what we already have, lol!
D3
April 20th, 2009
10:10 pm
What’s goin’ on my Bird-Cage Brothers? Wow, are we in the final stages or what? Actually kind of hard to believe that its going to be THIS weekend instead of like a month, 2 weeks, or 3 weeks away. We have punched out some serious theories, scenarios, and thought patterns regarding our Birds. Thanks to you all, we’ve taken it to another level (I notice the hate baiters don’t frequent as much as they used to).
Check out this little nugget I heard on Sirius NFL Radio’s Movin’ the Chains with Tim Ryan and Pat Kirwan: There was a discussion about the Falcons potentially wanting to go after Glenn Dorsey. At first I was quick to slough it off as an irrational caller, but They legitimately talked about it for almost 10 minutes or so. Supposedly, KC is looking to acquire draft picks because they only have 2 picks in the top 100 picks. There was also word that Dorsey doesn’t not fit at all in the 3-4 and they might be willing to shop him. They went on to discuss how enamored TD was with Dorsey last year and how he and Pioli are obviously close. The following scenarios were offered up:
1)Falcons give up their 1st and 2nd pick
2)Falcons give up their 1st and 3rd pick
3)Falcons trade 1st round pick and Jamaal Anderson
I’m sure it won’t even be an issue, but it was somewhat enjoyable to at least entertain the idea. The only scenario I would consider would be 1st round pick and JA, but its doubtful Pioli would take that. Don’t get me wrong, I’d love to get Dorsey, but giving up two draft picks in TD’s second draft after he delivered such a grand slam in his first draft. So your thoughts boys? What would you be willing to part with for Dorsey?
Bird-Cage Blog Competition:
Got dacha, WR, Nookah, Seminole, Marko, Falcon Devil, Mine.
Big Ray, Tyger, Ken Strick, JJ, I.MUS, Stirg get in on the fun baby!
Seminole Warrior
April 20th, 2009
10:14 pm
On target as usual Big Ray. Could be a prelude to a 3-4 transition. Which really has me going off into space. But, indulge me here for a minute, my brothers.
Recall that TD was previously the Patriots director of college scouting. And recall, the Patriot way is to be very careful in free agency, trades, and the draft. It is all about filling needs.
With that, I’ll add this little nugget. One of TD’s prize finds during his time with the Patriots is coming available next year as a UFA. This young man has five years experience in the league as of this year and is emerging as one of the league premier NTs. TD knows him, scouted him, drafted him, and will definately go after him. TD will easily convince both Smitty and AB that THIS is the guy to complete the transition to the 3-4 scheme. Additionally, the Birds should have some final resolution to the Vick contract situation by then, freeing up needed cash for this signing.
My brothers, I present to you, a preview of next season’s top free agent signing.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vince_Wilfork
Seminole Warrior
April 20th, 2009
10:24 pm
D3, I certainly hope that is not the case. TD would be better served to go my suggestion and wait on Wilfork next year. We can draft Dorsey this weekend in the form of Peria Jerry. This deal, if TD was to pull it, would be a total waste of picks and time. Check out the production of both Jerry and Dorsey while in the rugged SEC west. PLEASE D-Led, use your contacts with TD and shoot this one down if it has any merit.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glenn_Dorsey
http://www.olemisssports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=2600&ATCLID=542671
D3
April 20th, 2009
11:34 pm
Seminole – what’s the word money-T? I think you may finally have gotten me over to your side on one of your OSU boys, that being Freeman. Do you think there’s anyway he lasts to the 3rd round if we take Pettigrew first, then safety next? BVG will be great. He was the absolute MAN when he was at UGA. Trust me, we still regret the day he left, but at least he’s with our Falconi’s.
Ken Strick – good point on safety depth. Did DeCoud get hurt or something last year? I went back and realized that we drafted him in the 3rd round, so he should be on the same level as Chevis Jackson and HD since they were drafted in the same round. Any possibility of moving Robert James to S due to his size(5′10, 219)? I could see us drafting one anywhere between round 2 to round 4.
Big Ray – you got it on the first pick. It really will change the whole draft, IMO. If we lock up Pettigrew first, then we obviously will focus on the DEF the rest of the way. If we go DEF first, there’s a number of ways we could go. Is used to think that we could wait until the 3rd to pick up a good TE, which is quite possible. But I’ve come to the conclusion that Nelson and Cook have more of an upside than Coffman or Casey, for example. So if we go DEF first, I’d say we should go TE next to ensure we get Nelson or Cook. BTW, I’ve tried to lobby DOL and lead people at the AJC to get us a quality Falcons Fan Blog and I didn’t receive one email. I emailed like 7 people. Any advice?
DT seems very deep in middle round talent(Roy Miller, Sammie Hill, Terrance Taylor, Sen’derick Marks, Chris Baker, etc.), as well as safety (William Moore, Chip Vaughn, Rashad Johnson,Michael Hamlin), and even CB(Jerius Byrd, Keenan Lewis, Sean Smith, Brandon Underwood, Sherod Martin). OLB seems to not have near the middle round depth that these other positions have. Cushing, Matthews, English, Maybin, Barwin, Sintim will all be long gone. Marcus Freeman & Cody Brown( compared to Shaun Phillips) is about the last big time talent and it seems to take a pretty big drop down to, say Kaluka Maiva & Jonathan Casillas. In other words, if we want a big time potential contribution @ OLB, we gotta spend a 3rd round pick on one, IMVHO.
Marko – good point on our D-Line. I’ll say that since this draft is pretty deep with big run-stuffers. Between Ron Brace, Roy Miller, Terrance Taylor, Sen’Derrick Marks, Fili Moala, Sammie Hill or Dorell Scott, I think we’ll find our perfect complement to Babs/competition for Trey Lewis.
darrelstark – nice mock. I used to be the biggest geeked out freak for Cushing, but after doing a little research, he’s really on the same level as Matthews and I’d much rather take someone like Sintim who may be a hair slower, but bigger, tougher and more experienced. That being said, I won’t be that upset if we get Cushing. Even though he’s my boy from UGA, Allen in Round 3 is too high, IMO.
Seminole Warrior
April 20th, 2009
11:41 pm
D3, I like your proposal of moving James to safety. Definately worth exploring.
D3
April 21st, 2009
12:07 am
Mock Draft Competition
* – Indicates change
1)Detroit – Matthew Stafford, QB; Lions go Falcons route, get T later
2)St.Louis – Jason Smith, T; Big T to pave way for Steven Jackson
3)Kansas City – Aaron Curry, OLB; Great building block for new 3-4
4)Seattle – Eugene Monroe, T; Signed Housh, addresses Walter Jones inj.
5)Cleveland – Brain Orakpo, OLB/DE; OFF in decent shape; Rebuild DEF
6)Cincinatti – Andre Smith, T; The run on T’s begins
7)Oakland – Michael Crabtree, WR; Desperately fills need
8)Jacksonville – Jeremy Maclin, WR; Still WR after
9)Green Bay – BJ Raji, DT; Great DT starts conversion to 3-4
10)San Francisco – Mark Sanchez, QB; Smith/Hill/O’Sullivan era over
11)Buffalo – Michael Oher, T; Need to replace Peters, grab DE later
12)Denver – Tyson Jackson, DE; Stick with Orton for now, rebuild D
*13)Washington – Everette Brown, DE; Stacking DEF continues
*14)New Orleans – Malcolm Jenkins, CB; OFF not the problem in ‘08
*15)Houston – Brian Cushing, OLB; Focus on DEF begins again
16)San Diego – Rey Mauluga, LB; Paired w/ Merriman….Watch Out!
17)NY Jets – Josh Freeman, QB; Fills obvious need w/ Favre gone
18)Denver – Aaron Maybin, OLB; Converts to OLB after drafting Jackson
19)Tampa Bay – Peria Jerry, DT; Replaces Jovan Haye
20)Detroit – Eben Britton, T; Keeps Falcons route, gets T to protect QB
21)Philadelphia – Knowshon Moreno, Westbrook will be 31
22)Minnesota – Percy Harvin, WR; Perfect complement to Berrian
23)New England – Clay Matthews, OLB; Replacement for Mike Vrabel
24)Atlanta – Brandon Pettigrew, TE; Easy decision
*25)Miami – Larry English, OLB; Tuna refuses to draft WR in Rd.1
*26)Baltimore – Clint Sintim, OLB; Perfect 3-4 replacement to Scott
27)Indianapolis – Ziggy Hood, DT; Nice help to Freeney & Mathis
*28)Buffalo – Robert Ayers, DE; Defense starts rebuiding
29)New York – Kenny Britt, WR; Good replacement for Burress
30)Tennessee – Darius Butler; Vontae Davis too much of a risk
*31)Arizona – Beanie Wells, RB; One of top 2 RB’s drops to them
32)Pittsburgh – Max Unger, T; Drafting for need
webhead
April 21st, 2009
12:13 am
Should have kept Brooking and Boley. Both are better than this crop of kids. Talk about stupid blunders. WOULD HAVE BEEN CHEAPER ALSO. Geez what a screwed up mess, Thomas.
D3
April 21st, 2009
12:22 am
Its almost here bird-cagers! And on that note……………
4 DAYS, 11 HOURS, 37 MINS, & COUNTING!!!!!!!!!!!!!
SeminoleWarrior
April 21st, 2009
12:53 am
No need to even consider a trade for Dorsey when we can get the same thing in Ziggy Hood or Peria Jerry. A review of their college stats reveals very little difference between Jerry and Dorsey. What would concerne is the amazing similiarities across the board. Both were very productive in college but were also injury-prone. Stay away from this trade TD…if you must have a smaller, quick DT, go with Ziggy.
WR
April 21st, 2009
8:40 am
I agree with seminole, if Falcons expect Jerry to be there at pick 24, take him instead. Now if the trade was made I would be more willing to trade the first and a third because the falcons could still pick up a Jared Cook in the second and possibly move back into the third round with the multiple picks they have in rounds 5 and 6. I would give Jamaal Andersen another year before making him expendable, like I said, I believe the bird cagers are in for a pleasant surprise from Andersen this year.
SeminoleWarrior
April 21st, 2009
9:03 am
Good morning my brothers. This “trade scenario” is silly in my opinion. Why would we give up picks in the draft for a still unknown quality. I no further value in acquiring Dorsey than drafting one of this year’s prospect. Taking on the remaining portion of his $50 million dollar deal($23 million guaranteed) would also tie up our hands. Hood, Jerry, Hill, or any of the tackle in the draft would come MUCH cheaper. No reason at all to make this deal.
It, if completed, would represent the first strike in the ballgame for TD and Smitty. Stay with your gut fellows…stay away from Dorsey.
I’m watching Kiper, McShay, NFL Live, and a host of other draft shows and reading the websites. I have a feeling a lot of us will be revising our mock late Friday or early Saturday. Denver, Jacksonville, Philly, Buffalo, NY Giants, and Washington are all possibly looking to move. We will have to see how it plays.
WR
April 21st, 2009
9:27 am
The idea of Micheal Johnson slipping into the third round would change my falcons mock draft. I couldn’t see the birds taking johnson in round one or two but in the third I see something special and heres my thinking process. Johnson is 6′7 266lbs and runs the forty in the high 4.5 to mid 4.6 range. As a project you turn Johnson into a pure linebacker he has the speed and height to man up on tight-ends without any need for over the top safety help, no other team or player offers the same combination set, teams usually put a LB or safety on the TE and 99% of the time the TE always has a height advantage even in perfect coverage which is why teams use over the top safety help, Johnson eliminates that option which would only make a defense that much better. Imagine a LB who drops in coverage on a TE without the need of safety help, you would have two safeties roaming the secondary with two corners on receivers in a normal package, in a nickel you have 3 corners with the two safeties. A defensive coordinator could use some wild imagination in his blitz package because a player or players have been freed up to come from any angle. In the variety of sound blitzes defenses use Johnson would help offer a monster of choices. If Johnson is truly slipping into the third round, the birds take 1.Jerry, 2.Cook, 3.Johnson, 4.Moala if he’s there if not Sammie Lee Hill. Johnson at 3 looks pretty good. Your thoughts anyone?
SeminoleWarrior
April 21st, 2009
10:13 am
WR, I really don’t know about this one. Your scenario would actually play into what I described last night. Are we quietly transitioning to a 3-4 scheme? And is Van Gorder up to the task as a DC?
SeminoleWarrior
April 21st, 2009
10:26 am
A change is oming in my personal Falcons mock as doctors have advised my second pick in the fifth round, TE Brian Mandeville, to not pursue a NFL career due to a heart condition.
Best wishes to the young man. He has skills, was compared to Kevin Boss of the G-men, and would have been a nice late round steal I think.
WR
April 21st, 2009
10:44 am
Seminole, I don’t think we have to transition to a 3-4 for this to work. Its just a hypothetical view of using a freakish player like Johnson as a pure backer not a LB/DE hybrid. Johnson is so freakish in his physical attributes that I figured why not play around with some different uses for the guy. Problem is no matter where he is used he has to be more consistent and I’m saying that as a Tech fan. If this guy could stay focused he would be the still of the draft in the third round.
mars
April 21st, 2009
4:47 pm
Keep in mind, we still have option of trading a very flawed, and yet very talented Michael Vick. Also, in QB hungry league, Shockley is a waste as a bench-rider, and J Anderson might actually fit into someones defensive scheme somewhere (I type with straight face, no less). Look for one or all of these options to be exercised. Drafting Pettigrew would signal a return to the brain dead decisions that represent the history of the Falcons. If not interested in bringing Justin Peele along (quite talented and servicable, affordable without dropping ones pants), then wait for Jared Cook (as good as Pettigrew in all aspects). Considering our needs, squandering the first pick on a tight end would be moronic.
matty
April 22nd, 2009
9:32 am
i honestly dont see the falcons getting a LB with their first pick…no matter who falls to us. i hate to say it, but i think LB is one of our least needs on D, although we arent very doos there. DL and our entire secondary is in much worse shape than our LB. i say e trade back a little and get delmas or moore. cook in the second round.
with all of our holes on D, i say the we finish 8-8 at best. the O wont be good enough to make up for how young/inexperienced/just not good our D will be this year. we got by with smoke and mirrors last year, and you can only ride your luck for so long. plus the schedule is so much harder than last year. 8-8 at best, probably a game or two worse. but i think were headed in the right direction. IN TD WE TRUST! give it a few years and the falcons will be a force to be reckoned with in the NFC.
MountainDawg
April 23rd, 2009
3:18 pm
Falcons should definitely land Cushing (if he’s still on the board). The guy is a workhorse with lots of talent. Also, there’s no way that sumo slug Andre Smith should be a top 15 pick, he’s grossly overrated. Finally, James “Lil’ Animal” Laurinaitis, & SC’s Clay Matthews Jr should go in the 1st round. There both ball hawks & are getting the shaft on this mock draft.
richbrave
April 27th, 2009
10:05 am
COACH KEN STRICK:
Thought you might get a kick from my take on the REDSKINS o-line current position. Sounds like being a FALCONS fan from a few season’s back doesn’t it? I’m hoping SIX FLAGS goes under and DANDY DAN et. al. are FORCED to sell their assets to cover the loss. Damm, I hate being cynical, but right.
O-o-o-o-h, SCOTT BURLEY, EDWIN WILLIAMS and MIKE WILLIAMS along with DERRICK DOCKERY and a resurrected JON JANSEN will be the saviors of the offensive line. Oh, and D’BAPTISTE also, lest we forget.
Lets see from LT to right by position:
Currently unable to participate in offensive practices – SAMUELS, STILL recovering from last season’s injury. DOCKERY brought in because RINEHART (third round 2008) can hardly stay on the active roster. D’BAPTISTE playing out of position and unproven at any. RABACH capable as long as the guards on either side take up the slack. EDWIN WILLIAMS to back-up the center position and to replace “the GEYSER ” who is recovering from injury last season. THOMAS limited participation, recovering from SERIOUS surgery. JANSEN trying to prove he still belongs. HEYOR questionable abilities to carry the load at right tackle, but probably will do O.K. in 2009. SCOTT BURLEY and MIKE WILLIAMS just in case.
Makes a fan feel mighty secure and full of hope for the season doesn’t it? CAMPBELL-ZORN just lovin’ life. Zero pressure-zero heat.
Since we drafted replacements for KHARY CAMPBELL and JUSIN TRYON on special teams lets see about the captain himself, ROCK CARTWRIGHT. After all we’ve got our own “Refrigerator” in MIKE WILLIAMS 6′5″ 410. No need for a third running back OR fullback now. MIKE SELLERS where are you? Your contract requires you to show up and be counted among the present. There will be demerits for tardiness.
HIGHPROGLOW
December 20th, 2009
12:15 am
TOP OF THE MORNING TO U TOO……. U F**KEN H*MO
HIGHPROGLOW
December 20th, 2009
12:17 am
ALL OF YOU H*MOS SWALLOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! U CANT DENY IT…..:P U LIKE TO SWALLOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! RINSE AND REPEAT!!!