OU’s Robinson ready to come home

PINE ISLE, LAKE LANIER – Yeah, I’m getting this blog up because I’m officially shamming today. Playing in coach Mike Smith’s Hacks vs. Jacks golf tournament. Doing what they call in the journalism game: networking.

However, I talked to Big George “Duke” Robinson, the Washington High kid, who went on to star at

Duke Robinson, a former star at Washington High, is fired up about his workout with the Falcons. (Courtesy of the University of Oklahoma)

Duke Robinson, a former star at Washington High, is fired up about his workout with the Falcons. (Courtesy of the University of Oklahoma)

Oklahoma. He’s working out for the Falcons on Thursday.

What a cool kid. I’d talked to him before in a mass media setting at the NFL scouting combine, but our little chat on Tuesday was very nice.

He seems to have a real good head on his shoulders. I wanted to know why he went all the way out to Oklahoma. (Full disclosure: I like the Sooners. My first cousin, the great Weldon Ledbetter played fullback there for coach Barry Switzer 1979 to ‘83. He was a 7th round draft pick by Tampa Bay and went on to block for Herschel Walker with the New Jersey Generals in the USFL.)

“I wanted to get away from the things that were surrounding me,” Robinson said. “I wanted to change my life and see how far I could get. It worked out well for me. I’m proud of myself and my family is proud of me.”

Will the Falcons be singing "Tears of Clown" if they pass on Robinson.

Will the Falcons be singing "Tears of Clown" if they pass on Robinson?

Robinson, who is related to the great Motown singer/songwriter Smokey Robinson (his great uncle), is projected as a late first round or early second round pick. So he really doesn’t make sense for the Falcons, who appear to be set at guard with Justin Blalock and Harvey Dahl. The 24th slot appears too high for Robinson and he likely won’t be around when the Falcons pick at 55 in the second.

But the Tony Gonzalez scenario could come back into play on draft day with the Falcons trading down out of 24 and amassing second round picks. Then Duke, who’s 6-foot-5, 329-pounds, could be up!

Of course, he’d love to play for the hometown team. He’s also worked out for St. Louis, Cleveland, Miami and Pittsburgh. Most teams have him as a guard and some think he can play some right tackle.

“Right now, I’m just trying to stay focused,” said Robinson, who worked at Braves game selling peanuts and baseball caps in his youth.

He thinks that Oklahoma’s multiple sets and pro passing attack has helped his pro stock. (The Sooners have moved on since cousin Weldon was pounding the ball between the tackles from the Wishbone).

“We ran a lot of stuff,” Robinson said. “No-huddle, regular huddle-up offense. We had some great athletes.”

The Falcons went to Oklahoma in the second round last season and appeared to have found a middle linebacker in Curtis Lofton.

“We are cool,” Robinson said. “I played with him for three years. He’s my dog, but he knows I’ll put that hat on him, too.”

“Tears Of A Clown”

By William “Smokey” Robinson

a.k.a. The King of Motown

Now if there’s a smile on my face
It’s only there trying to fool the public
But when it comes down to fooling you
Now honey that’s quite a different subject

But don’t let my glad expression
Give you the wrong impression
Cos really I’m sad, Oh I’m sadder than sad
Well I’m hurt and I want you so bad
Like a clown I appear to be glad ooh yeah

CHORUS:

Well they’re some sad things known to man
But ain’t too much sadder than
The tears of a clown when there’s none around
Oh yeah, baby baby, oh yeah baby baby

Now if I appear to be carefree
It’s only to camouflage my sadness
And honey to shield my pride I try
To cover this hurt with a show of gladness
But don’t let my show convince you
That I’ve been happy since you
Cos I need to go, oh I need you so
Look I’m hurt and I want you to know
For others I put on a show …CHORUS

Just like Pagliacci did
I try to keep my surface hid
Smiling in the crowd I try
But in a lonely room I cry
The tears of a clown
When there’s noone around, oh yeah, baby baby
Now if there’s a smile on my face
Don’t let my glad expression
Give you the wrong impression
Don’t let this smile I wear
Make you think that I don’t care
Cos really I’m sad..

(I know, shamelessly stealing the lyrics thing from the DOB, but it works here. HOMAGE PAID TO THE DOB!!!)

Where do you think Robinson will go in the draft? The Falcons don’t appear to need an offensive lineman, but would Robinson be a good pick for them? Can you ever have too many good offensive lineman?

217 comments Add your comment

Art in TN

April 15th, 2009
7:13 am

I personally would like to see the Falcons take Darius Butler, the CB from UConn. He can play zone and man to man and the Birds need DBs… or Peria Jerry from Ole Miss, but I’m not sure he fits the Falcon’s scheme. He’s certainly not a John Henderson or Marcus Stroud type body.

mountain_jim

April 15th, 2009
8:12 am

Nice blog D Led. I just want the draft to hurry up and get here. I will be interested to see if we do trade down for more picks.

JB

April 15th, 2009
8:23 am

The birds should take matthews at 24 and then take jones the safety from alabama with 55th pick. 2 solid defensive players who could both play as rookies and help! they could take a TE in round 3 or 4, then continue to build defense all the way through the draft. We must address safety in early part of the draft, and i could live with us taking delmas with the 24th as well. Guys we have the offense to score on anybody and ryan will only get better, so we will be a force on offense. All we need is the defense to contend for a super bowl. I think we should have signed a cb in free agency, but i guess they consider having grimes back as a big pickup? 2 more weeks!!!!!

Mac

April 15th, 2009
8:40 am

I’d like to add him. That Oklahoma offensive line was terrific.

I may have seen your cousin blocking for Herschel. I was part of the largest crowd in USFL history — Generals vs. Bulls in Jacksonville.

TheManMike

April 15th, 2009
8:44 am

I agree with Mountain_Jim….

Bring on the draft, its getting a little tiresome talking about it.

Also – Nice blog – I like the song lyrics when they play a part in your blog, as DOB’s often do – nice touch. Let the good times roll…

Poorbrave

April 15th, 2009
9:10 am

Cool blog..love Smokey Robinson! DOB is the music man but like your lyrics. Wish draft was today but I trust GM’s picks.

Got to go to the TEA party at Capital, come on down.

Edward

April 15th, 2009
9:29 am

I don’t think the Falcons would go after Robinson even if they are able to trade out of the first round. First thing as DOB explained, he’s a guard. Who would have to go? Dahl or Blalock? Both are fairly young and don’t have a lot of miles on them. Dahl signed a $1 million+ tender and Blalock is still under his rookie contract. Second, if neither Blalock or Dahl is going to be traded or released then you don’t spend a high second round pick on a backup. I think the Falcons are doing their due diligence on a good player. If he happened to fall to the bottom of the second round or even to the third (very doubtful), then he would be a great value to pickup. The Falcons have more urgent needs than OL.

D3

April 15th, 2009
9:37 am

DOL – nice blog. Cool connection story with the great Smokey!

Personally, I’d love to have the kid. We know they can grow’em out there at the OU program, with Lofton being such a stud for us as a rook, but it doesn’t make sense for us if he’s rated high enough to go in the second round. We gotta stockpile on D(have you seen the schedule?), with the lone offenseive exception going to TE in the first(Pettigrew), second(Nelson, Cook), or third(Coffman, Casey). If Pettigrew or Matthews are there @ #24, I don’t think it’ll be an issue because we’re taking one of them. I just got a gut feeling that the TG deal is kaput. Obviously, I have no evidence, but if it were going to happen, it would have just happened with no leaks or fanfare, JMO. We do need to add some depth via FA or late in the draft, but Boudreau has shown a great ability to take raw talent and mold them into studs. His cross-training theory will most likely have us seeing Brett Romberg, Alex Stepanovich, Renardo Foster, and Ben Wilkerson playing some G if need be.

PoorBrave – you’re going to get tea-bagged at the capital? I’m with you on the draft, it’ll be here soon enough. But not soon enough for NFL/Draft junkies like us.

TN Art – Darius Butler looks to be a solid future CB for sure, but I don’t think he’s a first round grade, especially @ #24, IMO. Jerry would be a nice addition for sure, but me thinks he’ll be gone by then.

JB – right on the money brother-man. Matthews is my pick as well @ 24. Even though I must say that if Pettigrew and Matthews are there, flip a coin. Love to have both. My mock alters just a touch from yours. I would take Matthews, but spend a second on Shawn Nelson or Jared Cook at TE. I think they’re a head above Coffman or Casey for instance. Then address SS in the 3rd. Who knows, R.Johnson might still be there. If not, Chip Vaughn should be there. I could see both for sure though. A Matthews, William Moore, Chase Coffman 1-2-3 would be a great run.

TheManMike – where you been bro’? Nice to have you back.

falconidiot

April 15th, 2009
9:42 am

What is this, American Idol, to early of a pick to go away from D, outside of TE. Peria Jerry!

Stirg d'Nahisf

April 15th, 2009
9:44 am

Nice article, D.O.’better. Although we’re set at guard, Robinson would still make a wonderful addition. Competition makes another one better and depth is always a good thing. In addition, he can play tackle, an area we need to add depth to, also. Nonetheless, I can see the Rams drafting him.

D.O., are there any other “homeboys” in the draft that the Falcons may be considering? Are there any “homeboys” out there that fit our more demanding needs (i.e., defensive tackle, linebacker, safety, cornerback)?

Kurt

April 15th, 2009
9:58 am

We could have Deion Sanders, Darrell Green, Ronnie Lott and Brian Dawkins in our defensive backfield, but if our front 7 can’t generate any kind of pass rush, we still couldn’t get opposing offenses off the field. I look for TD to trade down and pick up a big body, play disrupting defensive tackle with one of the 2nd round picks that we end up with. I’m starting to believe more and more that Tony Gonzalez will be a Falcon come draft day too, thanks to another one of those 2nd round picks.

row3

April 15th, 2009
10:03 am

My hope is that Malcolm Jenkins or Vontae Davis falls to #24. I like R. Johnson or W. Moore at #55.

richbrave

April 15th, 2009
10:08 am

After perusing TOM WAITES on another AJC blog its refreshing to see some MOTOWN songs – something I relate to. Keep it up DOL. I like it.

WR

April 15th, 2009
10:20 am

Kurt thats what I have been saying. I like Butler, Chung, Vontae Davis, and whoever else, at the same time I think Houston, Chevis Jackson, Coleman, and Decoud would have a better chance if the Falcons get the front seven right, hell Jenna Jamerson would have trouble getting men covered with our front seven as it is.

D3

April 15th, 2009
10:33 am

Row3 – I would love to have Jenkins, but Vontae Davis is too much of a head case. Gil Brandt from NFL.com described him as “like Deangelo Hall, both on and off the field.” H to the E to the Double L NO! Given the choice I’d take Moore over Johnson, but would be happy with both.

Kurt – agree with you on trading down, but only if the right players are gone. If any of the following are available, grab’em(IMHO): Cushing, Matthews, Pettigrew, Maybin, Jerry, & maybe English. All gone, then I agree witch’a.

Edward – smart man my friend. OL can wait for a FA pickup after roster cuts or 6th round.

D3

April 15th, 2009
10:36 am

WR – great, great Jenna reference…….LMFAO!

kdbanks

April 15th, 2009
10:36 am

If we give up our second for Tony Gonzalez I’ll be very, very confused. Second round picks are like gold – good players at a great price. Old tight ends are nothing like gold.

row3

April 15th, 2009
10:49 am

Will Fili Moala be on the board at #90

HGN

April 15th, 2009
10:50 am

I just think the Falcons have far too many holes on defense to even consider an offensive palyer at Number 24. Now Brandon Pettigrew, as slow as he is, may be the one player on offense worth taking at #24 if he slips that far. But why would he slip? A starting LB or DB has to be taken at #24. To trade out of the First Round would mean bringing in inexperience as your backups.

richbrave

April 15th, 2009
10:52 am

MOVIN’ ON UP:

Redskins blog now touting GREG TOLER from tiny ST. PAULS COLLEGE into the first half of the third round. That 4.27 forty in the REDSKINS workout and his size evidently turned some heads. I would impress upon the FALCONS staff to take a look at this guy.

Kurt

April 15th, 2009
11:03 am

kdbanks, I agree wholeheartedly. but if we trade out of the first round and end up with multiple 2nd and 3rd rounds picks, I wouldn’t be surprised at all if the trade with KC happens. I’m not saying that I would be crazy about it, but, I know that Gonzalez is already 10 times better than any tight end we can draft and will be a force from the first snap of the first game. No learning curve needed.
I, like most everyone else on here, would prefer that we use all of our picks on our D, but, you have to think that Mularkey is licking his chops at the thought of giving his prize pupil (Ryan) another weapon such as Gonzalez. And I have to believe that he (Mularkey) is in Mike Smith’s ear pleading his case that this one little addition will complete his offense and make them nearly unstoppable.
But, that’s just my opinion.

Kevrock/Smarty Jones

April 15th, 2009
11:08 am

Folks. Pettigrew is another super slow TE that will be a bust in the NFL as a TE. I like Delmas as a DB or the Butler from UCONN. LB’s are dime a dozen like TE’s in mid – lower rounds. You can find one and groom them.

I just had this feeling that Dimitroff is going to have a draft that
will stand the test of time of the ‘85 draft of legend Bill Walsh.

Boy did we get screwed on the schedule. 4 games with the other Teams
coming off their bye weeks. Ouch. Another thing. How in the heck does
the Superbowl Champ had the 3rd easiest??

My favorite Song by Smokey and it’s a classic and I DID SEE Jenna at the Crazyhorse before she went hardcore. ‘Going to a Go go’ Best Smokey song of all.

Go Falcons!

richbrave

April 15th, 2009
11:20 am

Kevrock/Smarty Jones:

It’s a horse race, I get it. You don’t get the last place schedule unless you finish there.

Supes

April 15th, 2009
11:29 am

“I played with him for three years. He’s my dog, but he knows I’ll put that hat on him, too.”

Not sure if he knew this, but best not to mention “dog” when referring to the Falcons or any of their players;)

D3

April 15th, 2009
11:33 am

Kevrock – agreed on the schedule. SB champs with the 4th easiest schedule, is that a joke? Gotta depart from you your assessment of Pettigrew. For our scheme we don’t necessarily need a burner. Pettigrew would be more in the mold of a Witten, tough as nails blocker, 3rd down conversion machine, & red-zone threat. We already have our burners in Norwood, White, & HD, and maybe even T-Brown. Like Delmas and Butler a lot, but not first round worthy, IMHO. LB’s might be a dime a dozen, but they have the highest grade of top-end talent in the draft and that’s what you gotta look for so late in the round. Particularly, I like Cushing and Matthews work ethic. We saw what an outstanding work ethic as a rookie did for us last year in Matty Ice. Saw a little Jenna pre-film work, eh? Wowsers.

Kurt – I’m with you on TG. Honestly, I’ll be happy either way. Getting TG for 2 to 3 years or just finding a TE in this year’s deep class. Either way works for me.

BULLSEYE

April 15th, 2009
12:04 pm

Who is this Dimitroff anyway? Does he have experience drafting players? does he even consider consulting with AJC reporters for draft knowledge?

Why does he not have an open mind and review this bloggs suggestions in order to get a starter with the no. 24 pick?

Glen Dorsey had one sack last year.

angry banker

April 15th, 2009
12:05 pm

our o-line did a good job last year – but after the schedule was announced all I can think about is playing haynesworth, demarcus ware, osi, kris jenkins and all the great defenses we’re going to face this year…

it sure would be nice to have a little blocking help – even a big tight end would help. It sure would be nice to pick one up around the 2nd round… wait a minute…. isn’t there a TE we can trade for with 10 consecutive pro bowl appearances on the trading block?

Chris

April 15th, 2009
12:17 pm

Mays Highschool cant get any love???? There is a former Mays Highschool player that is also working out for the Falcons tomarrow…..

WR

April 15th, 2009
12:20 pm

D3 and Kurt I agree, if we can get TG or a good tight-end in the first round I would be okay. If you really look at the schedule, New England and the Saints are the only offenses that strike any real fear when considering the state of the defense. Offensively, there are a mass number of very good defensive teams on the schedule. Complete the offense if the opportunity is there, continue to develop the defense with the remaining picks. The last thing the Falcons need is a QB that gets shell-shocked by the defenses he will face this year, finish the offensive puzzle by giving Ryan a security blanket and giving the offense more consistent blocking on the perimeter, this schedule will allow a young defense to develop if they can recover psychologically after the beat-down that they will surely take after visiting New England. That game will make or break the season even though its early in the season, if the young defense can take the bull by the horn and grow after getting massacred, the defense will get better as the season goes on, if their youthful thoughts gets in the way of understanding its a marathon not a sprint then the birds will be in trouble after that game.

Ken Strickland

April 15th, 2009
12:27 pm

KURT-if we trade down and acquire an extra 2nd rd pick, we could trade for TE TGonzalez and still retain our current compliment of 7 draft picks. Now that would put us in an awsome position. By even considering trading down, it shows we aren’t that committed to drafting any of the top 3-4 LB’s.

On the last blog there was mention of the number of wins we can expect this yr. It ranged from 8-8 to 10-6. Even with what is considered the 4th toughest schedule, I believe we’ll end up with the same 11-5 won/loss record we had last yr, and here’s how.

Of the 8 teams on next yrs home schedule, we played 6 of those teams last yr and defeated all but one(Eagles). Buffalo and and Miami are the 2 new teams on this yrs home schedule and I’m confident we’ll be strong enough to defeat them on our home turf. Bottomline, we should go undefeated at home. That leaves away gms against the 49′ers, Cowboys, Giants, Jets, Patriots and division rivals Tampa Bay, New Orleans and Carolina. I find it hard to believe we can’t manage to come away with at least 3-4 wins out of those gms.

Anyone that knows anything about professional football knows confidence is often more important than talent when determining winners and losers. After the way this franchise overcame the humilations of 06 & 07 and all of the uncertainty at the start of last season, we’ll certainly start this season with 3 vital elements that were missing at the beginning of last seaon. Those 3 elements are loads of (1)CONFIDENCE (2)FOCUS and (3)CHEMISTRY.

ANYONE THAT THINKS WE WON 11 GMS LAST YR BECAUSE OF A WEAK SCHEDULE IS A FOOL. Why do you think we were given a weak 08 schedule in the 1st place? IT WAS THE NFL’S REWARD FOR US BEING UNABLE TO PRODUCE WINNING SEASONS IN 05, 06 AND 07 WHILE PLAYING SIMULARILY WEAK SCHEDULES.

Kurt

April 15th, 2009
12:38 pm

I gotta be honest WR, I’m not gonna think for one minute that our defense is gonna take a beatdown and get massacred in New England. They are good, no doubt, but our Falcons are different than the Falcons of old. This will be our second year in Coach Smith’s system and will have gone through 2 drafts and free agency periods managed by TD. I’m thinking we’ll do OK. We may get beat, but I kinda like our chances. I guess you could say that I may be a tad bit inebriated from drinking so much of the TD and Mike Smith Kool-Aid. That’s OK though, I’m a believer until he signs a Hartwell or drafts an Aundrey Bruce or Bruce Pickens or Jimmy Williams or…..well, you get the picture.

Cobra Lalalalalala!!

April 15th, 2009
12:42 pm

Washington HIGH SCHOOL??!!

And I thought you meant the Redskins, wow you’re amateur!

Kurt

April 15th, 2009
12:46 pm

Ken, I’m with you. My thoughts exactly. Have you seen the draft value for the 24th pick? It looks to me like it will take a couple of 2s and maybe a 3rd, depending on who we traded with (if we traded). That would be sweet, even if one of the 2nds is for next year. It’s pure genious. I swear I think the man (TD)has a clue about this whole football thing.

WR

April 15th, 2009
12:53 pm

Thats the point Ken, as tough as everyone is making this schedule out to be, outside of New England, no other team strikes any real fear. Cutler has no targets in Chicago, NC has Jake and probably no peppers, the jury is still out on Eli in NY, Jason Campbell and Washington’s offense scares no one, T.O. is not going to turn Trent Edwards into Joe Montana anytime soon, do the Jets have an offense, does Tampa have a team, Romo and the boys are a bunch of head cases, the 49ers plain suck, Pennington is trying to win as hard as he’s trying to stay off the disabled list, McNabb and Westbrook are the walking wounded and even if they weren’t we have them in Atlanta, if the colts, titans, ravens, steelers, chargers, and maybe even the cardinals were on our schedule, I could see cause for concern, their not, and all I see is beatable teams, so panic, not so much.

Steven

April 15th, 2009
1:00 pm

“THE FALCONS DON’T APPEAR TO NEED AN OFFENSIVE LINEMAN?”

Wow, this is the last column of yours that I will ever read, sir. Try doing a little research and look at what the yds/cry number was against teams with winning records last year.

It should take about 15 minutes, and you could probably do it from the golf course if you were so inclined, but you obviously aren’t, Mr. Ledbetter, so enjoy the sunshine, and when you come back keep telling every idiot fan with a Falcons jersey what a huge impact a receiving tight end will make on our offense.

supa

April 15th, 2009
1:18 pm

I trust our GM and will celebrate any pick he makes. It’s been a while since I had that much confidence in a Falcons decision maker.

Ryan, Lofton, Turner – this guy’s made some terrific player decisions.

angry banker

April 15th, 2009
1:18 pm

hate hate hate

in DOL defense, we are DEEP at o-line. now, quality is another subject all-together…

Rule .303

April 15th, 2009
1:25 pm

I always thought it was Maurice Carthon who blocked for Herschel Walker while at the new Jersey Generals?

D3

April 15th, 2009
1:41 pm

Quick Hit @ Lunch:

Ken – I agree with a trade scenario to get TG, but that doesn’t necessarily mean they’re not enamored with a certain draft pick possiblity, just that they’re looking at all options and doing they’re due diligence. Personally, I think the TG trade is dead, but that’s just me.
Agreed on schedule. This stuff get’s waaaaaaay overblown. If you wanna be the best, you gotta beat the best. I’m looking forward to the test honestly. Who in the H— thought we would go 11-5 at the beginning of last year?

Steven – nice vitriol brother. I’d say we need some depth help, but our OL did a pretty nice job helping Turner be second in the league in rushing. They struggled a few times, granted, but we can’t be liontamers all the time.

mars

April 15th, 2009
1:54 pm

How about this scenario? Your previous draft ESP had the Jaguars taking Sanchez with the #8 pick. I don’t see Sanchez as being a good fit there. However, the Falcons have a QB who would be a good fit there. What do you think of a trade sending our #24 plus DJ Shockley for their #8? The draft possibilities for the Falcons would change radically. And yes, blog fans, I am a Shockley fan who feels like he could start somewhere in the NFL. Jacksonville would be perfect. Atlanta belongs to Ryan. Go Matty Ice!

#8 for shockley and a #24?

April 15th, 2009
2:05 pm

wow, you are from Mars

#8 for shockley and a #24?

April 15th, 2009
2:08 pm

I can see Jim Mora’s twisted face saying: shockley? shockley? did you say shockley?

a former 7th round pick who’s now had ACL surgery? wow

Reno 911

April 15th, 2009
3:02 pm

Mars: Applause for getting creative. While I don’t think that Jax would necessarily see Shockley as an improvement over Garrard, whom they are already paying a lot to play this year, I do think the idea of moving up may be worth talking about. I think that the only defenders who would make a big impact for the Falcons will be gone by 24, or long before, and as much as I like the idea of trading down, the idea of trading up is worth a spin. (Someone who has an idea of what the draft ‘point’ values are will likely correct me here, because I have no idea what it says picks are worth.) But if Raji is clean, and the drug test rumors are false, and he’s still there at #7-10, which he might be, would the Falcons pull the trigger? What about trading into the 15-20 range for Robert Ayers? Who knows how much the price would be for these, but someone might be game. As has been said by others more knowledgable than I, the Falcons are looking to get some compensatory picks next year for their FA losses, and while they can’t trade those picks, knowing that they have them might free them up to trade some of their regular picks coupled with their #24 in this year to move up a few spots, or maybe even into the top 10. it would at least give the Falcons a shot at one of the few potential defensive game-changers out there; as much as I like Matthews and Cushing, I think they’re going to be just good players, at best, while Raji and/or Ayers might be great.

Reno 911

April 15th, 2009
3:05 pm

(all that being said, I’d still rather the Falcons trade down and pick up another 2nd and 3rd rounder, maybe in combo with one of the Falcons’ 5th rounders…. but it’s worth consideration.)

VICK SUPPORTER 2

April 15th, 2009
3:07 pm

THAT 4-GAME ROAD STRETCH SANDWICHED WITH DALLAS AND THE GIANTS HAS GOT TO HURT – “OUCH”.

SURELY THE “NEW FACE OF THE FRANCHISE” WILL GET THAT 1ST PLAYOFF WIN BEFORE 2015 :)

MAYBE THIS PRESEASON THE NUMBER 3 (BEST QB ON ROSTER), YOU REMEMBER HIM, D.J. WILL FINALLY GET A START IN THE PRESEASON. I MEAN WHAT DO THE FALCONS HAVE TO FEAR?

BULLSEYE

April 15th, 2009
3:13 pm

Maybe we could trade DJ for Gonzalez straight up. Then both teams head straight to the Superbowl.

chuck

April 15th, 2009
3:21 pm

Do whatever it takes to get TG-he will help keep our defense off the field by keeping drives alive-unless he scores a quick TD which i could live with also!

MiltonDawg

April 15th, 2009
3:29 pm

TG is too old. Body is banged and bruised after 12+ yrs in the NFL. Stick with our current roster or pick up another one in the later rounds of the draft. QB, RB, WR, O-LINE..all good. Do we still have that TE from TN?

BULLSEYE

April 15th, 2009
3:43 pm

Yeah, maybe Keith Zinger is ready to step in at tight end instead of Hall of Famer Gonzalez.

Sam Canada

April 15th, 2009
3:49 pm

I think most people are forgetting the fact that we drafted a cb in the third round last year in chevis jackson, plus we have von hutchins comin back this year so i think out cb’s are set. we also drafted a safety in the third round last year in decoud. i think our biggest need is OLB. peterson is a short term replacement and we can use some youth and athleticism to rush the qb from our OLB spot. i think matthews would be a great pick, i also think laurinitis would also be a good pick. in the second round we can address our d-line to help our run defense.

JG

April 15th, 2009
4:15 pm

BULLSEYE,

That one sack that Dorsey had was one more than Jamal Anderson,
So that must have made him worth the 4th pick in the draft!
HA!

Jon

April 15th, 2009
4:29 pm

Hey D, don’t know where Mr Robinson will land but that song is my favorite by Smokey!

Bryan

April 15th, 2009
4:29 pm

If we could trade our #24 and a 5th or 6th for Gonzo and get their 2nd and 3rd that would be incredible. Whats the difference between the #24 and a second rounder. It’s all chance at that that point. Also any word about signing another Free Agent? Harrison maybe to a a vet and some help on D.

Falconless in SEATTLE

April 15th, 2009
4:31 pm

GO BIRDS!!!!!!!! Representing the Falcons in the North West.

Olskool

April 15th, 2009
4:34 pm

nice story. keep it coming

country boy

April 15th, 2009
5:17 pm

Hello fellow Bird fans. Just wanted to post an opinion on the T. Gonzolaz? trade for our #2. Last year the catch phrase from Dimitrof and Smitty was “it’s a process”. I think they truely believe the this philosophy – meaning gradual forward movement. I would be surprised if we gave a coveted #2 round pick for 2 seasons even from an accomplished TE. Remember last year we added Lofton in the second round ( high second I know) and he is currently considered a cornerpost of our team.

jerry

April 15th, 2009
5:19 pm

Do you think it is a disadvantage for a team not coming off a bye to play a team coming off a bye week? Well they are 26-55 over the last three years. I don’t know what the NFL has against the Falcons but they have handicapped them by scheduling them to play 4 teams coming off their bye week when the Falcons don’t have a bye week. No other team has more than 2 such games and 10 teams don’t have any such games at all including some NFL “bluebloods” like the Bears, Patriots, and Steelers. I have long felt there were two sets of rules in the NFL-one for the haves and one for the have-nots. There is no way in hell the NFL would let Jay Cutler go to a have-not. Now the “blue blooded” Bears have 5 prime time games and didn’t even make the playoffs while the Falcons have only 2 prime time games. And on their little NFL Network, if a Cowboy or Giant farts they expound on it endlessly. It is nothing but a bully pulpit for the favored ones. You tell me why the Falcons have to play 4 opponents coming off a bye. Does someone want them out of the playoffs. NO team in the “clique” would get f–ked like the Birds did in Philly.

Ken Strickland

April 15th, 2009
5:21 pm

WR-do you remember a few yrs ago when MShaub, our backup QB, took a Falcons team that was far less talented than our current Falcons into Foxboro and everyone thought we’d get humilated by QB TBrady and the Patriots? Yes, we lost that gm, but it took everything they had to defeat us at the very end. Don’t be too quick to write that gm off as an automatic loss for the Falcons. The Patriots will have as much to contend with from QB MRyan and MTurner as we’ll have to contend with from them.

D3-acquiring TEGonzalez would only make drafting a TE less of a priority, not prevent us from drafting one. The same would hold true for a DE/OLB hybrid like, say, English or Maybin. In passing situations, we send him in at DE, move MPeterson to MLB and send in SNicholas and RJames to replace CWire, assuming he’s the starter. That combination, along with babineaux and JAnderson at DT, would give us a serious pass rush, especially off the edge, along with some serious quickness, speed and flexibility at LB.

I hope those who think last yrs success was the result of luck and/or a weak schedule continue to think that way. I hope those who think a stronger schedule will force us to revert back to the Falcons of old also continue to think that way. Remember, virtually everyone, and I mean everyone, had those same negative assessments, opinions and predictions about last yrs Falcons, and we made liars out of of them all.

row3

April 15th, 2009
6:09 pm

Package TG and G Dorsey for J Anderson and our first round pick.

VICK SUPPORTER 2

April 15th, 2009
6:44 pm

“DOOM” “DOOM” “DOOM”

DARN YOU “NFL SCHEDULER” – HOW DARE YOU MAKE THE FALCONS PLAY REAL TEAMS :)

D3

April 15th, 2009
6:56 pm

Good evening gents! Listened to Buck and Kincaid on the way home and got some snippets from TD, Chris Mort, and Smitty was coming on next before I got out of the car. Mortensen gave a lead that the Falcons are eyeing one player in particular, but didn’t give it up out of respect to TD & Smitty. That golf tournament sounded like a fun party @ the golf course. And TD evidently’s a pretty good golfer as well.

Ken Strick – right on with an English or Maybin pick. I would love for the Falconies to get their hands on Maybin, even though several experts project him more as a DE than an OLB. There are some mocks having him drop. Would be nice.

Sam Canada – agreed on OLB, especially since this OLB class is so deep. I’m a big fan of Matthews as well, but the knock on him is that he might be the best nickel LB in the draft, but will have trouble on 1st & 2nd downs. But his work ethic alone proves that he’ll correct it, if he struggles. Depart from you on Laurinitus. Just not a big fan of his.

BigTex

April 15th, 2009
6:56 pm

Did the Falcon staff not watch the Texas vs OU ? Brian Orakpo ate Duke Robinson lunch all game. To slow and cannot stop a speed rusher he will need help and a TE will need to line up next to him. Don’t do it the film does not lie.

irvin

April 15th, 2009
7:50 pm

Reno 911- Moving up to the 7-10 range would cost us our 1, 2 and 3. But the 15-20 range would be plausible.

Bryan- KC traded their #2 to NE, so that trade would not work.

TD is the one pushing for the trade. I think that the thought process behind this trade is that an established TE like Gonzales would do wonders for Ryan’s game vs. trying to develop a young TE on the field during his maturation. Think about this trade scenario… Trade our 2(#55) for Gonzales. Trade our 1(#24) to the Bengals for their 2(#38), 4(#106) and 5(#142). This trade might be plausible. Especially if they don’t get an OT with their #6. Cincy has a slew of picks and could really use some help all over their roster.

WR

April 15th, 2009
7:51 pm

Ken, I do believe the Falcons have a chance in every game this year, In my reference to a New England beating I am referring to the fact that New England is a very well coached team which the young birds can use as a Barometer of where they stand, especially defensively. Win or lose New England is the only team on the schedule that really sets the NFL standard for success in this era. Trust me, if Redmond was under center for that game I believe the birds would have a chance.

SeminoleWarrior

April 15th, 2009
7:54 pm

What’s up my brothers in blog city? We knew that the “09 schedule would be a challenge and it will be. K Strick is going with 11 wins agin this season. I respectfully disagree with my borther. We will be very young this season, even more so than last. 9 wins is what I see this season and a second place finish in the division. The process will continue. As far as the draft D3, I heard Mort’s statements as well. I have noticed that there is a erry quiet at the Branch given all the talk about the Gonzalez deal. It seems that perhaps TE is getting more attention than we thought. But given it all, I think the pick will be Matthews, DJ Moore, or Vonte Davis. Davis and Moore are considered the closest things in this draft to “shutdown” corners and we may want to add that. Both are also noted as physical against the run as well. GO FALCONS!!

Ed

April 15th, 2009
10:01 pm

On Irvin’s suggestion for trading down the deal leaves us short. The #24 pick is worth 740 pts & your group of picks only adds up to 637. I like trading down but getting a high 2nd rd pick & high 3rd rd pick is more like it (#38 & #72 = 750 pts for example).

falcon21

April 15th, 2009
10:32 pm

Points, what the heck? This is the NFL. Drafting is hit or miss, leave it to TD and he will do the right thing. He has a plan.

falcon21

April 15th, 2009
11:05 pm

As for TG, we can score but getting to the next level is to stop the scoring. We need D. And a TE is not going to help. It is just my opinion and most of the time I am wrong. Go Falcons!!!

irvin

April 15th, 2009
11:10 pm

You are indeed right about the points Ed, but a trade has to be feasible to both parties. Besides, most teams don’t use the standard chart. They use their own charts to evaluate trade value. While I would love to see a straight up points trade like yours, most teams just will not give up that type of value. I wouldn’t say 3 for 1 leaves us short, seeing as how we could use depth at a few different positions.

D. Orlando Ledbetter

April 15th, 2009
11:35 pm

The Tournament was a blast! My team — D. Led, Wes Durham, Mike Mularkey and Mike Williams (one of the owners) — finished 3-under which was good enough for 7th place. Dunham pounded the ball. Coach Mike dropped some nice putts. I’ve got to get back to the range. Did get a couple of good drives launched! One of the highlights included one of the assistant coaches blasting a goose with a tee-shot.

Glad you all seem to like the Motown tunes.

ROW3: No! Moala will be long go by 90.

STIRG: “Homeboys” Jared Cook (North Gwinnett/South Carolina) and Asher Allen (Tucker/Gerogia) will be available and could possibly help. Cook is a tight end and Allen is a cornerback.

SUPES: Good point about the dog reference.

Rule.303: My cousin Weldon did most of his blocking for Herschel in practice. He was Carthon’s backup.

LOOKING AHEAD:
Mort wasn’t the only one looking for draft info. Friday’s mock draft blog should be steaming hot. Got lots of draft knowledge to drop. Also, talked to my main man “Super” John Clayton tonight after doing a video spot for NFL.com. Information is flowing as the draft order is starting to set. Also, we’ll kickoff our draft coverage in print on Sunday. THE DRAFT IS ALMOST HERE!!!!

D3

April 16th, 2009
12:46 am

Little slow tonight boys, eh? Guess we had information overload last night with the schedule talk Still working on this GD paper. The worst, biggest bunch of BS I’ve ever written. Pretty bad. Anyway…

Just browsing the Mock Drafts and I got a real kick out of this one. The first three go through pretty good taking 1)Robert Ayers 2)Fili Moala and 3)Jared Cook. Ok, understandabls so far, but get a load of some of the other picks: Scott McKillop(?) ILB & Ian Johnson (RB). They also have Brian Cushing going to the Bengals @…#34, WOW. And Pettigrew dropping to #42. I do appreciate the effort, even though they probably were throwing darts while drinking Red Stripes in the 6th and 7th rounds. Rest of draft.
http://www.nfldraftsite.com/

DOL – heard TD was The Man at golf. You guys call that work? JK. Listening to Buck and Kincaid, it sounded like it was a good time all-around. Mort gave a snippet of the Falcons zeroing in on a certain draft pick, but wouldn’t spill the beans. How ’bout you? Great work, especially lately. You had us shuckin’ and jivin’ trying to post on two blog posts the other day.

Reno – don’t see us moving up. We need depth, depth, and more depth, so I see us trading back if anything.

Seminole – what’s brother-man? I’m dying to know who “that draft pick” is. Pettigrew, Matthews, or someone else. Right on Matthews; I think DJ Moore’s a reach in the first, and when Vontae Davis was described by NFL.com’s Gil Brandt as “almost exactly like Deangelo Hall both on and off the field,” that would be a big, fat NO! JMVHO.

Make no mistake that the schedule is not tough, but Smitty has the boys ready play week in and week out. Is there one game last year where we didn’t come to play?

Have a good night boys, see you on the flip side, and on that note……….

9 DAYS, 11 HOURS, AND COUNTING!!!!!!!!

Ken Strickland

April 16th, 2009
1:49 am

BIGTEX-even though Robinson played OT in college, he’s projected to be an OG in the pros. Remember, our own JBlalock was an OT in college and has successfully converted to OG.

VS2-you’re hanging your hopes for a Falcon collapse on us playing a more difficult schedule. Didn’t you and a lot of other haters, doubters and naysayers use that same lame excuse to predict the same doom and gloom for the Falcons last yr? It seems you have little to say because you seem to have little to work with.

WR-EXACTLY. Our DEF kept us from a shot at the Superbowl, instead of Arizona, and TD will take the necessary steps to strengthen that DEF. We need to shore up our run DEF and upgrade our pass rush. Drafting a widebody DT, and the return of DT TLewis will definitely help our run DEF. Drafting a pass rushing hybrid DE/LB will definitely upgrade our pass rush.

Big Ray

April 16th, 2009
2:15 am

D3,

I got to thinking. The Gonzalez trade may or may not be dead. It could end up being a draft day trade. In fact, that may actually be the smartest thing to do: conduct your trade when some of the picks have already been made, and your board looks a lot less confusing that it has up until then.

I mean, I don’t know how that works for certain, but that’s how I’d do it. Pull the trigger when you have less gambling to do. After all, on draft day, all the free agency and general trade stuff is all over with. Trading for Gonzalez this early might be too soon, tipping off where we might be going in the draft. It could be that TD is simply playing a very tight game.

As to Pettigrew, don’t let people get you down on that. Everybody wants to talk about his slow 40 yd dash times, but we both know that running the 40 is not all it might seem to be. Besides, as you say, we don’t need him to be an absolute burner. His blocking is paramount; that much we MUST have. Being a big, sure-handed target is a close second. Two things on 40 yard dash times: 1)I don’t recall Alge Crumpler being a speedster, and 2)Jerry Rice consistently ran a 4.6 in the 40. Yet he was always running away from the pack when he got the ball…..

I don’t know what we’ll do about the TE position. And I don’t know if we’ll trade out of the 1st round. If we do, we need any pick(s) we get to be HIGH in the second round. That’s a must.

KEN STRICKLAND,

I like it when VS2 comes around. He brings us so much luck with his predictions! Like he did last year! ;)

marko

April 16th, 2009
6:16 am

There’s very little the Falcons could do on April 25 that would surprise me, but seeing a guard drafted on day one would just about do it. Duke does seem like a pretty likable sort though. I wonder if he can sing little like his uncle Smokey. That would be funny. First he starts singing tears of a clown in a soft falsetto voice, then somebody snaps the ball and he knocks the snot out of somebody. Too bad he doesn’t play defensive tackle.
D3 says he heard an interview where Thomas said that he’s already got his man picked out. If that’s the case he’s pretty sure that he’ll be there at 24. That will also mean that immediately following the words,” with the twenty-forth pick of the draft, The Atlanta Falcons select blank.”. This will be immediately followed by the Mel Kipers of the world screaming REACH REACH. This is because the only way he can be sure that the player he’s selected will be there is to take him a bit earlier than expected. If you want to find the Falcon’s guy look for athletes in a position of need that project as early second rounders, and forget about the Falcons snapping up a great athlete that unexpectedly fell to them at twenty four.
One player that fits that description is Clint Sintim. If that’s the case, Orlando going to force feed me a healthy dose of crow for all cracks I made about his pick. First, I’ll take my medicine like a man. Second, I’ll know that Sintim or whoever the pick is a much better player than I thought.

WILLSTER

April 16th, 2009
6:35 am

LISTEN PEOPLE ESPECIALLY THIS KEN .S. GUY THE FRIGGIN NFL SCHEDULE IS MADE OUT 10 YEARS AHEAD OF TIME,IT HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH HOW BAD IT WAS FOR THE FALCONS 2 YEARS AGO,THE FALCONS WILL DRAFT DEFENSIVE THE FIRST PICK,IT WILL BE A LINEBACKER,OR A SAFETY,BUT THE FALCONS HAVE MORE PROBLEMS THAN THAT GETTING THE BYE INTO WEEK 4 THAT WILL DO A YOUNG TEAM IN THIS YEAR,AND THE SCHEDULE THEY WILL NOT WIN ALL GAMES IN THE DOME THIS TEAM WILL WIND UP 7-9 0R 6-10 THIS TEAM IS NOT THAT GOOD YET I CANT WAIT TO BET AGAINST THEM,especially the patriots game, and the bears have not forgot how ryan completed that pass, i guarantee that wont happen this year.

WILLSTER

April 16th, 2009
6:43 am

O.L. good article the only reason they are bringing that guy in is poker,to make things interesting maybe get him in round 4,i know for fact the falcons are trying to trade down to get ray malaluga he is the real deal DAN PASTORINI SERVICES out of vegas told me that the falcons may trade there 1st and 2nd this tear for kc- 1st and gonzales but they want a 3rd also.

WILLSTER

April 16th, 2009
6:46 am

also a first next year,that would not be wise because the falcons will get a good player next year a top 5 player.

WILLSTER

April 16th, 2009
6:49 am

o.l. will give you my KENTUCKY DERBY PICK IN II DAYS.TAKE IT TO THE BANK.

JJ

April 16th, 2009
7:55 am

Willster: You’re an idiot! The draft is not made up 10 yrs in advance. Did you skip elementary school when they taught english and grammer? You draft logic is hillarious. I bet you made a fortune betting against the falcons last year. I cannot wait for your highly trained IQ on derby picks!

jerry

April 16th, 2009
8:18 am

JJ: Willster said the schedule—-not the draft. But you are right. He doesn’t know what he is talking about.

JJ

April 16th, 2009
8:32 am

jerry: thanks, I meant the schedule. I’m still on my first cup of coffee. Sorry D3, it’s really hard not to take the bait when such idiots spew their logic.

JG

April 16th, 2009
9:18 am

Willster,
If you are correct, I would be happy with that Trade!
We could take care of two Major needs, TE and Either OLB or DT.
Curry or Raji ? I wish this was true. But, I doubt it.
We could also get which ever one we don’t pick OLB/ DT in the 3rd round. A Safety in the 4th Round. and in the 5th Round a CB & TE for the Future. 6th Round Reciever or OL…

D3

April 16th, 2009
9:42 am

Good A.M. Gents! I swear these last couple of days have been the longest EVER. The Draft has always been one of my absolute favorite events of the year, but after great discussions with you guys, there’s not a whole lot of players that we won’t have heard of when their name is called. I think I’ve finally narrowed my choices for or first pick down to four. And, unfortunately, I have no order of preference but here it goes……Pettigrew, Matthews Jr., English, or Jerry. I just added Jerry to the list for fun, because I’m pretty sure he’s not dropping past the Bucs. And after looking at many O’ mock drafts, it also appears that Matthews looks like a good fit for NE’s 3-4. If someone held my dog for ransom and asked me who the pick would be today, I would have to say…..Pettigrew (yep, I said it Stirg!).

It appears that Philadelphia is the only legitimate team that might take him before us, but if Moreno is there I’d be shocked if they passed. He’s the perfect fit for their OFF. Buffalo WILL NOT be spending their #11 on Pettigrew. If all three are gone, right in line with Ken, I say they take English. He gives us a one for 2 punch. He can put his hand down on obvious passing downs and learn under Peterson at the SAM, allowing Nicholas to move back to his original position of WILL.

Big Ray – what’s up my man? That was my question: how many great TE’s ARE burners? Witten(no), Gates(somewhat), Gonzalez(not really), Winslow(somewhat, I guess), Dallas Clark(not really). Even though it wouldn’t be a D pick it would set us on OFF for years and years. Just imagine: Pettigrew, Roddy, Jenkins, HD, Turner, Norwood, TBrown, & another young WR we’ll draft. No need to mention that Matty Ice will be running the show with those young weapons. WOW! Nice examples of Crump & Rice.

marko – good point about reaches. Personally, if English is on the board, then I would think that Sintim is a reach, but like you said, they know a lot more than I do, especially when it comes to fit and schemes. If we pick Sintim, then we’ll have to put in some money for DOL for the Men’s Wearhouse, so he can pimp out some new bow-ties. I’m usually a Kiper critic too, but he pegged Matt Ryan the whole way to us last year, even with all the Dorsey obsession(throw myself in that mix, unfortunately).

JJ- its all good brother. Sometimes the hate bait is too juicy and tempting to pass. Especially non-sensical, fatuous arguments that you can take to the woodshed.

JT

April 16th, 2009
9:50 am

Has anyone seen the article over at the SI Falcons homepage about Todd McClure possibly retiring and not showing up for off season workouts (its actually a link to a pro football talk article)? DOL- any truth to those rumors?

JG

April 16th, 2009
10:26 am

Even if it is true, There are some young Up and comer Center’s ( Woods, Caldwell) in the Draft and dont forget we signed Romberg from St Louis Last year.
I like McClure but remember he is undersized, and just think if you had a big Anchor in the Middle that could push the line around…
Remember Smitty Likes big Olines and Dlines.. Not undersized Centers who want more money close to retirement age.

Ken Strickland

April 16th, 2009
10:35 am

WILSTER-it’s obvious you needed a target to shoot at and you chose me. However, you’re trying to do target practice with an empty weapon. The teams that are on our schedule weren’t determined 10yrs in advance. The only thing that’s determined in advance is the conferences those teams will be chosen from. Once the conferences have been predetermined, a teams won/loss record is used to determine which teams within that conference are selected.

Since you intend on betting against the Falcons, the need to believe you have a chance of winning has to be strong. So, the preseason ritual of convincing yourselves the Falcons are a good choice for you to bet against becomes necessary. That might explain why VS2’s posts are so redundant. He seems to be having difficulty convincing himself the Falcons will fall apart, so he repeats the same theme over and over and over for reinforcement. I guess you singled me out because my posts make a lot of sense, even to you, and I’m making it hard for you to believe your own crap about the Falcons. In VS2’s case, he simply avoids addressing me and ignores the comments of everyone else, which he actually admitted to in one of his earlier posts.

Tell me WILLSTEER & VS2, how many bets did you win last yr betting against the Falcons? Are your animosities toward the Falcons due to the financial bath you took while grossly misjudging the team last yr, like you’re doing again this yr? It’s got to be very hard for you guys to accept how the Falcons overcame all of the adversity of the previous 2yrs. You were certain the loss of 11 of 22 starters, plus our PK, starting over with a completely new regime with a new system, a rookie QB, revamped OL, new RB and a weak DEF further weakened by the departure of 5 starters, would lead to certain disaster. But in the end, YOU CLOWNS GOT PUNKED BIG TIME. The sad thing is, you’re back with the same sad approach, the same stupid responses, and the same sad motives. The two of you are perfect examples of the old saying, “YOU CAN’T SEE THE FOREST FOR THE TREES”.

Nookah

April 16th, 2009
11:23 am

Just finished getting caught up from yesterday. It’s been good to read the logical and meaningful posts and the worthwhile contributions.

Willster, the only thing I’ll say to you is this….”if illogical, ridiculous and baseless statements were a ship, you would certainly qualify to be a fleet”!!!

D3, what’s up my man? Finished that paper yet? Don’t stop working, it will pan out in the end…trust me!!! I also read your post regarding Mortensen’s comment about TD/Smitty locking in on their man. This adds more intrigue, anxiety and anticipation to our blogs. I was sold on the TG trade and it may still go down. However, be that as it may I think we will take a DE/OLB at #24. Unfortunately Maybin will not be there unless something really untoward happens which I doubt or unless the Dynamic Duo do the unthinkable and un-NewEngland-like move and trade up which I also doubt. I am not sold on English, not because of his ability but his dur”ability”. Correct me Ken if I am wrong but are there health issues there to consider? If the DD take him then I will accept that the due diligence has been done by the medical team. I also think Matthews Jnr will be gone by #24. He will be taken by Houston or even New England.

If we do like we did last year and draft what most of us thought was an apparent 2nd rounder in the 1st round (a la Sam Baker), and take like a Clint Sintim, then we will all realize how much we know that we don’t know!!! In any measure it contributes to great excitement and will climax in 9 days!!!

Go Falcons!!!!

One love….Nuff respect everytime!!!

richbrave

April 16th, 2009
11:25 am

KEN STRICK:

If you know anybody in the FALCONS org. drop SIDBURYand TOLER’s names will you? These guys are going to be NFL caliber at DE or OLB and CB. I keep beating the drum for them. GREG TOLER has worked out individually for half the league. Just trying to improve the birds my man. I also like CORNELIUS LEWIS(5th round) and CECIL NEWTON(FA) from TENNESSEE STATE.

richbrave

April 16th, 2009
11:26 am

I haven’t personally seen either of the TENNESSEE STATE players, but have seen both SIDBURY and TOLER numerous times each.

VICK SUPPORTER 2

April 16th, 2009
12:22 pm

FACT CHECKER:

2009 VS “4″ COMING OFF BYE WEEK (OUCH)

DOOM DOOM DOOM :)

IF THEY DON’T MAKE THE PLAYOFFS CAN MEAN ONE THING:

LEAF PART-II

BUST BUST BUST BUST

Reno 911

April 16th, 2009
12:23 pm

Ken Strick: Unfortunately, Willster is mostly correct, in that 14 of the Falcons’ opponents are, indeed, set in stone. Divisional opponents are set in stone far in advance, seeing as how each team plays all four teams in two divisions, and six against there own division. The previous season’s result ONLY determines which of the remaining two intraconference teams they play. So the Falcons result last year only determined that they’d play the Bears and the 49ers, both of whom finished second in their respective divisions. The rest of the opponents (six games in the NFC South, four against the NFC East, and four against the AFC East) are, indeed, determined years and years in advance. That can’t be a source of a gripe. It’s just reality. What can be the source of frustration with the league schedulers, however, is the number of teams we play coming off of bye weeks (4), which is a definite disadvantage to the Falcons. Statistically, we’d be lucky to win two of those four. So, yes, the Falcons got screwed by the scheduling of bye weeks, but not in the teams we’re scheduled to play, which can’t be helped. It all comes around. Last year Atl got lucky by playing eight games against the crappy western divisions. This year unlucky, playing both of the much better eastern divs.

VICK SUPPORTER 2

April 16th, 2009
12:29 pm

“TRIVIA”

WHO IS THE YOUNGEST QB IN FALCONS HISTORY TO WIN A PLAYOFF GAME?

WHO IS THE YOUNGEST QB IN FALCONS HISTORY TO MAKE THE PRO BOWL?

WHO WAS THE 1ST QB IN NFL HISTORY TO BEAT BRETT FAVRE IN LAMBEAU?

“HINT” HE WAS THE LAST QB FOR THE FALCONS TO W-I-N A PLAYOFF GAME.

WE ALL KNOW THE ANSWER :)

Reno 911

April 16th, 2009
12:35 pm

Now, as to the scheduling, I’m fairly confident that the league schedulers quickly eliminate the variations wherein the Giants, Patriots, Steelers, or Cowboys are loaded with opponents coming off of bye weeks. Do you think the commish signs off on a schedule where the hometown Giants have the sked with that many teams coming off byes? Hell no. There are definitely teams that are to be protected, and teams that, if necessary to make the overall schedule work, it’s ok to screw over. I think we all know which group the Falcons fall into. But the Pats were in that group 10 years ago, too, so it’s fixable. If the Falcons can go 5-5 through week 11, they can finish 9-7 and have a chance at the playoffs, and after another year or two, they’ll be one of those teams that, when the schedule lands on Goodell’s desk, he’ll pay attention to how it’s arrayed for the Falcons. We just gotta make it there. Whether we like it or not, the franchises that don’t get screwed with four opponents off of byes have, at least economically, earned it.

Mart

April 16th, 2009
12:39 pm

Wow, I remember Weldon Ledbetter. He was a good one. He had a teammate on the Sooners named Jerome Ledbetter. Any relation?

bigeasy830

April 16th, 2009
1:16 pm

Welcome to the family WILLSTER. They keep talking about last year. It’s a new year and new season. Falcons you better get game one against the Dolphins or your looking at a 0-4 start.

VICK SUPPORTER 2

April 16th, 2009
1:51 pm

“BIGEASY” YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. THE 2008 EASY SCHEDULE WAS WHY LEAF BECAME A STARTER – NOBODY COULD HAVE SCREWED UP THAT WEAK LIST OF TEAMS, NOT EVEN A WEAK ARMED 5TH YEAR COLLEGE PLAYER AT BOSTON COLLEGE.

I DOUBT THEY WILL EVEN HAVE AN ANSWER FOR THE WILD CAT IN THEIR FIRST GAME. THIS TEAM HAS MORE HOLES THAN SWISS CHEESE.

I AM GOING TO ENJOY THE POST GAME BLOGS BETTER THAN 2007.

SEE YA GUYS – ENJOY YOUR NEW FACE, EVEN IF IT WILL BE COVERED WITH BROWN BAGS.

WHAT?

April 16th, 2009
2:26 pm

I don’t give a flying fluzzie fart who the Falcons play! The coach will make sure the team is ready. Bigeasy830 go to a Saints board and drop your trash there. I’m sure the players are not in the corner of their lockers in the fetal position crying about the schedule!! GROW UP AND BE MEN!! 11-5! GO FALCONS!!!

WHAT?

April 16th, 2009
2:28 pm

VS2 YOU CAN SHUT YOUR MOUTH ALSO!!

I MUS.WRITE

April 16th, 2009
2:31 pm

Ditto JJ…… that he is , 10 years ago huh?……….the texans were’nt even in the league 10 years ago, do your research dude. Butler might be a slight reach at pick 24 but I think he should be wearing a falcons jersey next year. Watchn film of the guy i like him morre than DJ Moore, A.Smith,Sean Smith etc……….. Im okay with a Cb at 24 as long as we take care of the D line and OLB in the following rounds

We need sum horses up front…….DL guys i like include….. J Gilbert,R.Miller,Sidbury,T Taylor

SPACE EATERS APPLY HERE……………….

D3- U are everywhere my man…. keep it going good info

Whats up – KS, RAY,RICHBRAVE, BOW TIE etc…………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………I.MUS IS THE FUTURE…………………………………………………………..

WHAT?

April 16th, 2009
2:32 pm

VS2.

Who was the youngest NFL qb to go to prison for dog fighting while in the process letting an entire team and fan base down?

You dumh @#$!!

VICK SUPPORTER 2

April 16th, 2009
2:47 pm

OBVIOUSLY 2009 IS A REALITY CHECK. MY QUESTION IS:

WHO GETS BLAMED FOR THE 2009 FAILURES UPCOMING. INTERESTING INDEED.

ONE THING JIM MORA DID DO WAS TAKE A TEAM TO THE CHAMPIONSHIP GAME IN HIS FIRST SEASON IN ATLANTA – WHAT DID THE GREAT SMITH AND GM DO? “1 AND DONE”!

I GUESS MORA AND MCKAY HAS THAT ON THEIR RESUME :

JG

April 16th, 2009
2:48 pm

Rookie Year Matt Ryan,
3,440 Yards Passing 16 TDs 87.7 Rating 11-5 record.
Even 104 rushing yards with 1 TD
Rookie Year Michael Vick,
785 yards Passing, Yes Passing, 2 TD’s. 289 Yard Rushing, 1 TD. 7 Wins 9 Losses. 62.7 QB rating. In which Vick played St Louis, Miami, Buffalo, Arizona and San Fran… Tough Schedule there Vick Supporter 2! HA!

I think Matt Ryan is a much better QB with the Same Receivers, that Vick had. But, Since you know more Than ESPN, CBS Sportsline, and the NFL Network. You should just stay in your dreamland. Where do you think Vick will be in five years when Matt Ryan is playing in a Superbowl?
Hopefully, out of trouble.. and out of Bankruptcy.

JG

April 16th, 2009
3:11 pm

Hey,
What is the Name of the Team that Vick plays for now? oh that is right, He doesnt.

The Real GM

April 16th, 2009
3:12 pm

The Dumbest move that the Falcons have made so far is the release of a potential superstar wideout in Laurent Robinson that will come back and bite the shit out of us in the near future. Anywhos the next move I think we should make is trade our soul to move up in the top 5 to secure a legitimate LB in AARON CURRY out of Wakeforest he plays the LB position like a DB.

Intramural Team is Aggressive

April 16th, 2009
3:13 pm

Roddy White and Michael Jenkins statistics when Vick was throwing the football: Neither over 40 catches, neither over 500 yards.

Roddy White when anyone but Michael Vick was throwing the ball: 80+ catches, 1200 + yards

Michael Jenkins when anyone but Michael Vick was throwing the ball: 50+ catches, 500+ yards.

Number of receivers Vick could throw to: 2 (Finn and Crumpler)

Number of receivers Ryan can throw to: 5+ including Peele

I loved Vick when he was quarterbacking as well VS2, but Ryan is FAR from a bust, and frankly, I’d trade highlight reels for wins any day of the week.

The Real GM

April 16th, 2009
3:15 pm

Aaron Curry SELL OUR SOUL to get into the top 5 picks.

The Real GM

April 16th, 2009
3:16 pm

If we want a Championship AARON CURRY.
What ever we have to do .

oldbrave

April 16th, 2009
3:24 pm

hey guys just cool it let the gm do what he thinks best , everybody wanted dorsey last year and he did nothing for kc look what rayan did

Nookah

April 16th, 2009
3:28 pm

Come on guys, please do not let a few malcontents allow us to lose focus. This is a Falcons blog that has cleaned it’s act up. Please do not let it get back into the gutter. Most of us are genuine Falcon Fans who enjoy the banter about our beloved Falcons.

D3, finished your paper yet bud? Keep to it!! You won’t regret it in the end.

I am leaning towards the hybrid OLB/DE in the 1st round. Was almost convinced about the Pettigrew pick (D3, Stirg, I think you guys are leaning that way). I still think we are going to pull the trigger on that deal for TG. Perhaps TD is doing some more negotiating.

I know we won’t be able to get our hands on Maybin and I am a little skeptical about English, not about his ‘ability’ but rather his ‘dur-ability’. If we pick him then I have to assume the due diligence by the medical staff will have been done. Who is to tell we may do the same thing we did last year i.e. pick who most of us thought was a 2nd rounder in the first round (Sam Baker) and maybe pick Clint Sintim. Then we will all realize: 1) Sintim may be better than we all think or 2) we know now that we don’t know everything about these players and how good they maybe.

One thing we need to remember, do not trust everything you see on film. To the naked eye a player may seem a poor prospect, but to a well trained coach’s eye he may see a player with a fixable flaw and sometimes that is all it takes to turn a decent player in college into a very good NFL prospect. That is why you need the Scouts to spot the “diamonds in the rough”

To all the naysayers and doom and gloom preachers……..if irrational, baseless and ridiculous statements could be a ship, you guys would make a very big fleet……

Go Falcons!!!!

Nuff respect everytime…..!!!!

tbhawksfan

April 16th, 2009
3:51 pm

So Happy to have Ice, but I’d in the best of worlds I’d also love to have Dorsey doing nothing in the middle of our D line.

D3

April 16th, 2009
4:04 pm

OK, gentleman….little disappointed here. This blog has reached a new level by not taking the hate bait. No need to respond to rudimentary, incipient arguments whose sole purpose is to distract and agitate. By feeding into their line of reasoning, you are acknowledging that their arguments have merit, and we all know that not to be true. But, hey, sometimes you can’t help it. Let’s get back to some good, intelligent football talk…….

The schedule is what it is. We knew we were gonna have a harder schedule, just didn’t know where they would fall. Men, this is what we want. We want the chance to see how good we are against the best. I think expectations should be tempered somewhat, but remember, all of our NFC South enemies have roughly the same schedule. There will be some learning curves for sure, but to be the best you gotta beat the best, period. If New England is the class of the league, than I look forward to seeing how we stack up, even if we don’t win. 10-6 should win the division. The most important thing to do is to “Defend the Dome,” which we did D— good last year. 7-1, could have easily been 8-0 if not for our D’s last minute collapse. Which will be improved this year for sure.

Keep the good positive vibes rollin’ and ignore the non-sensical arguments. More draft talk later…..

In the meantime, check out Marko Mitchell WR from Nevada. 6′3″5/8, 218, 4.47. Good, soft hands.

WHAT?

April 16th, 2009
4:41 pm

D3 you are correct. Back to being positive.

JG

April 16th, 2009
4:42 pm

Question,
With this hold out by McClure, Can we trade him for a Second or Third Round Pick?
Maybe pickup Woods or Caldwell, and hope they can start?
I would love to get some young talent in there with Ryan to grow with him and have the same connection that Manning and Jeff Saturday have…

JG

April 16th, 2009
4:53 pm

With this McClure holdout, does it mean we definitely Trade out of our 1st round pick to pick up extra 2nd round and 3rd round picks?
Unbelievable, it is always something..

Ken Strickland

April 16th, 2009
4:56 pm

RICHBRAVE-no I don’t know anyone in the Falcon organization, but you can bet your life if any of us are aware of these players, TD and Smitty are definitely aware of them.

BIGEASY-birds of a feather flock together. Haters like you, WILLSTER and MV2 seem to go out of your way to avoid talking about last yr’s success. It’s so painful for you to accept the REALITY of the Falcons success last yr, you go overboard engaging in WISHFUL THINKING and focusing your energies on the predictions and the IMAGINARY failures of the Falcons upcoming season. I GUESS IF ONE LACKS THE KNOWLEDGE, INTELLECT AND/OR INSIGHT TO ENGAGE IN INTELLIGENT DISCUSSIONS ABOUT FOOTBALL, ONE THROWS STONES.

RENO 911-thanks for the info and the corrections.

Everyone seems so willing to write the Patriots gm off as an automatic loss for the Falcons, so I did a little research and guess what I found out. The Patriots schedule was just as weak if not weaker than ours. They played only 4 teams with winning records and one of those, the Jets, were 9-7. Two opponents, the Rams and Chiefs, were 2-14. Two others, the Seahawks and Raiders, won 4 and 5 gms respectively. With a weak schedule like that, the mighty Patriots could only manage the same 11-5 record as the Falcons.

Then I decided to look at the records of the teams on next seasons schedule. The all mighty Cowboys 9-7, the Giants 12-4(lost 3 of last 4), Redskins 8-8(lost 6 of last 8), Bears 9-7, Bills 7-9(lost 6 of last 9)49ers 7-9, Jets 9-7(won 1 of last 5), Eagles 10-6 and Dolphins 11-5. After our bye week, we had no trouble handling the 3 teams within our division, Tampa Bay, Carolina and New Orleans. If this is the NFL’s 4th toughest schedule, the Falcons will have no trouble repeating last yrs 11-4 record. GO FALCONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

irvin

April 16th, 2009
5:21 pm

I agree that NE is at the top of the class, but in reality they are a system offense that revolves completely around the QB. Brady’s coming off the knee injury. We just have to make sure that we can keep the pressure on him for 4 quarters and we can easily win that game. GO FALCONS!!!

Reno 911

April 16th, 2009
5:39 pm

Irvin- agree that it’s possible to beat the Pats in NE, but it’ll have to be with a good pass rush generated by the front four (using the Giants’ model from the SB). Not sure if we have the four that can generate the necessary pressure. I’m a Falcons fan, but I’m not too optomistic. Frankly, I think that unless we get some more beef in the middle that can also provide a decent pocket push against the pass I think the first half of the Falcons’ schedule will be painful. Shoot, maybe Trey Lewis will come back playing like a monster. Who knows?

Stirg d'Nahsif

April 16th, 2009
5:53 pm

I watched ESPN earlier and the commentators broke down the top ten picks in the upcoming draft. Judging from their knowledge of the game, I would agree with their selections. What intrigued me most, however, was the number eight spot. For some reason, unanimously, they all suggested that Jacksonville is most willing to give up that position. In other words, we (Falcons) could trade up and move into the number eight position, where (they feel) Raji will still be available. Is it worth it? Fellows, y’all want to entertain this? Is is worth lobbying for?

Reno 911

April 16th, 2009
6:02 pm

The most interesting theory I’ve heard (here: http://www.walterfootball.com/mattblog090415.php, plausible or not) about the Jax pick at #8 is that they will take Mark Sanchez, if available, because the owner wants to sell and/or move the franchise to LA. That’s total conjecture, but it’s interesting fodder. Like I said yesterday, once you get past pick #15-18 or so, there aren’t anymore “gamechanger” or “cornerstone” defenders left in this draft. It’s worth the Falcons thinking about if Raji slips past 5-7, I guess. The price might depend on whether Sanchez is still on the board by then. Price is always set by demand, and if that guy’s still there at 8, there will be a lot of demand (Broncos, Jets, Bucs, maybe even the Panthers).

Nookah

April 16th, 2009
6:06 pm

This blog ate my last 3 posts. This is really frustrating. D3, I concur, in fact I had the same line of argument in 2 of my last 3 posts (hope this one goes through….D Led I need some help here…) As D3 says, keep it real Falcon Fans. We have been having real intriguing and fascinating banter over the last few blogs. Let’s keep it going. Ken, my brother as hard as it is to do, please do not stoop to another person’s level. We have far more class than that.

I have been leaning more and more to a hybrid (Lord knows I have had so many different directions that I have gone since this draft discussion has started). So I am thinking more and more like Maybin/English/Matthews Jnr./Michael Johnson.

1) Maybin will not be there and we will not do the anti-New England thing and trade up.
2) English should be there but what I have a fear about is his durability rather than his ability.
3) Matthews Jnr. may or may not be there. He has the bloodlines and the work ethic but does he really have the upside or is it a flash-in-the-pan? I know D3 you are sold on him. However, to rid us of that decision I think he’ll be taken by Houston.
4)Johnson has all the attributes but can he really be the hybrid and is he cross-trainable as Smitty loves his players to be. However, certainly if we want a pure pass rusher, he’s our man.

After all this I have just used all arguments why we may not select any of the foursome just named. Will continue this thought later.

Go Falcons!!!!

Nuff respect everytime!!!

Nookah

April 16th, 2009
6:15 pm

Continuing where I left off. I sent out the following ad…..Wanted….Hybrid with exceptional athletic ability and speed. Can be cross-trained. Must be able to rush the QB and if necessary drop into coverage and be stout against the run.

Guess who responded to the ad? I’ll delay that until the end. After I saw the application I remembered what we did in last year’s draft. The Dynamic Duo pulled one on us. They got a player who most of us thought would be drafted in the second round, Sam Baker. A lot of us thought he was a”reach” and barring injuries he had a pretty respectable season.

So Falcon Fans I will now reveal the applicant to you. D3 you mentioned TD and Smitty are already locked in on their man…that man is CONNER BARWIN!!!

With the 24th pick the Falcons select …..CONNER BARWIN!!; 6-4; 256;4.59 40;40 1/2″ vertical; 10′ 08″ broad jump.

He’s the pick folks.

Go Falcons!!! Nuff respect everytime!!

Stirg, booyaka!!! booyaka!!!

irvin

April 16th, 2009
6:31 pm

Trading that far up for Raji is interesting to say the least. I just don’t think it’s really plausible considering all that we may have to give up. I’m really with you on the T.Lewis thing Reno. I hope he comes back and plays lights out. IMO, we should get a solid 320+ pound run stuffer behind him for good rotation. I believe that our run defense will fix itself with some strong, young 2-gap defenders on the roster. My major concern is with our pass rush, or lack there of minus big Abe. If we were to lose him( knock on wood) we wouldn’t be left with much. I’m pushing for a durable pass rusher with our first pick. I like Johnson but I do believe he is a bit of a reach.

falcon21

April 16th, 2009
6:34 pm

Question for Ken. If JA is moved from DE to DT as of now how do you think our D Line would line up and if JA cannot handle DT who do you think would be the starters?

Reno 911

April 16th, 2009
6:36 pm

Heck yeah, Nookah. I knew there were going to be more of us on the Connor Barwin wagon. The thing about Barwin is, the team’s going to have to be patient with him while he learns some points that most players come in already knowing. He’s only played D for one year and is still pretty raw, but he’s a physical anomaly and, like I said in another post, can play a pretty serviceable TE for 10 snaps a game in a 2x TE set. He’ll be a good defender, I think, just not next year. One thing he will be able to do first year is play 3rd down DE opposite Abe and burst some speed around the corner, but may be a little ways away from being a dependable Will OLB. But I like the pick. (I’m just hoping he’s not a Mike Mamula-like workout warrior, who never ends up playing up to his physical skills.)

irvin

April 16th, 2009
6:37 pm

Barwin’s lack of snaps on defense really concern me, and we all know it takes a beast to play defense in the NFL. But at the same time, you just can’t help being intrigued by this guy. So confused.

VICK SUPPORTER 2

April 16th, 2009
6:40 pm

CAN A TEAM REALLY BE DONE BY THE 4TH GAME. THAT WOULD BE THE BIGGEST COLLAPSE IN THE HISTORY OF THE NFL. WITH THE NEW FACE OF THE FRANCHISE, A 4-GAME ROAD SWING SHOULD BE NO PROBLEM. SURELY THEY CAN BE THE LOWLY COWBOYS AND GIANTS, OTHER WISE HE IS THE BUST I PREDICTED.

DOOM DOOM DOOM

KEEP POSITIVE GUYS :)

GO FALCONS! AND TAKE THE BRAVES WITH YOU :)

D3

April 16th, 2009
7:15 pm

Supes – thanks for the props, bro’. I’m like a attention-deficit order kid in a candy store due to all this draft/schedule/TG talk. Getting close to the week mark. I’m gonna need some methadone to help my withdrawals after the buzz of the draft has subsided.

WHAT? – no need to feed into that BS negativity, because if nothing else its just boring. No stimulation, same argument over and over. You’re better than that brother.

JG – is this McClure holdout official? As we’ve learned from the TG trade, until we see it on NFL.com or ESPN NFL, than there’s little reason to buy into whole-heartedly. We’ll see.

Ken Strick – nice NE opponent research. Everybody’s afraid of NE and assume its a loss, but I can’t wait for that game. How do we truly measure up to the “class” of the NFL? Can’t wait to find out.

Reno – you’re definitely justified in being a little apprehensive about the first 5 games. That definitely will probably be a bell-weather of sorts, but we play the role of underdog well. And despite some love from several pundits, the Falcons are just assumed to take a ‘huge drop simply because we have a ‘harder’ schedule. I say to the pundits: keep the doubts coming, it’ll only inspire our ‘boys.

Stirg – interesting scenario, but I’ll have to take a big ol’ pass on that. Moving from #24 to #8 would take heaven and earth and Raji is not worth it, IMHO. Many ‘experts’ even mention how much he benefited from your boy Ron Brace taking up double teams allowed him to dominate. If anything, I say trade down, but if Pettigrew, Matthews, Cushing, Maybin, or English are there, I say grab’em.

Nookah – what’s up my brother? Have you tried some fresh brewed Labatts? Check it out if you get a chance. I told you there was a blog eating monster roaming through the shadows on this blog. It literally ate like 4-5 of my posts one night. WTF?

As always great arguments all around. I was completely sold on Matthews, but just a sliver of doubt creeped back in when I watched Mike Mayock break him down. Said he will have to improve his run support ability, which was one of our big weaknesses. So I got you there. Maybin most likely will be gone, but I’ve seen a few of him slipping. Just depends. If he drops past the Broncos and Bills, he may slide to us. English’s stock is rising in my draft world. Dudes a beast and could learn under Peterson for a year and drop his hand down as a DE for different looks. MJ would be worth a 2nd pick, not a 1st, IMVHO. He probably will be a beast at some point, but his hybrid ability will be limited in a 4-3, and you would think he stole Mayock’s cat the way he slams him. Mayock’s a tape junkie, and evidently MJ had a TON of bad tape and takin’ plays off. Hey, I’m sold on Barwin. The guy’s abilities are off the chart and you just can’t pass on a guy like that. Great reference on Sam Baker. That pick got crucified by pretty much all the ‘experts,’ and he rocked it out as True Rookie Left Tackle in the League. I like it. But, if Pettigrew or Matthews there, I still gotta go with my top 2. Me thinks that Matthews might go right before us. If its Barwin, I’ll send you Red Stripe gift certificate.

Can you taste the brew and anticipation on Draft Day? For you beer conisseurs, check out Sierra Nevada’s Torpedo Ale. A little hoppy, but finishes clean. And on that note…………

8 DAYS, 16 HOURS, 44 MINS, & COUNTING!!!!!!!!!!!111

D3

April 16th, 2009
7:18 pm

irvin – definitely agreed, meant to put that point in about Barwin myself. Do we draft a semi-project @ #24 or go with the sure thing.

DOL’s supposedly got some good stuff for us tomorrow. Just hope he changes the Sintim pick (sorry DOL).

VICK SUPPORTER 2

April 16th, 2009
7:32 pm

MOSS—-BRADY—–TAYLOR :)

marko

April 16th, 2009
7:33 pm

JJ, I meant to tell you I pretty much agreed with your forecast for next season. If anything, I’m a little more optimistic. I predict a hard cold winter in Tampa. I don’t see any way we don’t take the series. We’ll have a normal football season, we’ll win one or two we figure to lose, and well payback the football gods by losing one we should win.
Stop the presses! On the Buck & Kincaid dog & pony show, Dimitroff declared that he had his man. Or lady let’s not be sexist here. This morning I wrote that if he had his man, that meant he was fairly sure that he or she would still be there at twenty –four. Following this to its logical conclusion, he needed to be sure that the player he coveted would still be there when we made our selection. This would rule out the possibility of his waiting for a higher ranked player to fall through the gaps. Up till this point I hadn’t spent much time considering early second round picks as ours are at twenty-four and fifty-five. There didn’t seem to be much point in paying attention to that part of the draft as we weren’t going to be selecting there. That’s where I’ve missed the boat; Thomas doesn’t select players based on where others think they should be picked. He makes his own decisions. From this we can assume that Thomas Dimitroff is not married.
Looking at the men and women that I’d previously overlooked, I made a startling discovery. There weren’t any women. This is sad, I can only guess that we haven’t progressed as far as a society as I had assumed. It’s tragic because I’m of the opinion that Rosie O’Donnell would make a fine nose tackle.
Looking over the list I narrowed my choice to Conner Barwin. It’s said that at Two hundred and fifty plus pounds he has run sub four point five forties. I’m skeptical about this claim as scientist have pretty well proven that white boys can’t run that fast. Last year Conner was a tight end, and a very good one at that. This year they moved him to defensive end and he recorded eleven sacks. This year the Falcons will move him to linebacker. Three positions in three years would be overwhelming for some, but not Conner he spends half times curing cancer. All this stuff is fairly common on the planet Krypton where Barwin was born. Anyway that’s the way I see the Falcons going Nine days from now. Of coarse I reserve the right to change my mind as I’ve just run across this kid from Tulsa Tech that turns green every time the officials get him upset.

D3

April 16th, 2009
7:59 pm

Quick Comedy: been thinking this for awhile, but had to finally put it up. Anyone ever noticed that BJ Raji looks A LOT like the dude from “Lost” in the face? Obviously try to get past the skin pigment, maybe I’m high on sleep deprivation. See for yourself:

BJ Raji
http://cache.boston.com/resize/bonzai-fba/Globe_Photo/2009/01/23/1232769189_1497/539w.jpg

Dude from ‘Lost’
http://cimg2.163.com/ent/2006/10/4/20061004140911fd66f.jpg

New Mock from Draft Countdown has our boy Pettigrew going to Bills…..D—it!

http://www.draftcountdown.com/sub/Mock-Draft-A.php

D3

April 16th, 2009
8:04 pm

Quick Comedy:
been thinking this for awhile, but had to finally put it up. Anyone ever noticed that BJ Raji looks A LOT like the dude from “Lost” in the face? Try to get past the skin pigment, maybe I’m high on sleep deprivation. See for yourself:

BJ Raji
http://cache.boston.com/resize/bonzai-fba/Globe_Photo/2009/01/23/1232769189_1497/539w.jpg

Dude from ‘Lost’
http://cimg2.163.com/ent/2006/10/4/20061004140911fd66f.jpg

New Mock from Draft Countdown has our boy Pettigrew going to Bills…..D—!

http://www.draftcountdown.com/sub/Mock-Draft-A.php

D3

April 16th, 2009
8:11 pm

falcon21

April 16th, 2009
8:52 pm

Thanks for the info D3, good reading but Pettigrew to me just does sound like the logical pick. There is alot of positive with the pick. It would make a really good offense even better but we need D. and the player we need may not be availble. Trade down trade up, heck I don’t know . As someone said earlier, I’m confused!

Pete

April 16th, 2009
9:10 pm

Sorry, but Eben Britton, Arizona, would be FIVE times a better pick than Duke Whoever Robinson.
With Britton on the right and Baker on the left, the Falcons would have one of the premier O lines in the NFL for the next 8 to 10 years.

falcon21

April 16th, 2009
9:12 pm

Does not sound. sorry!

VICK SUPPORTER 2

April 16th, 2009
9:17 pm

I HOPE D.J. GETS TO START AT LEAST 1-PRESEASON GAME THIS YEAR. SINCE THE NEW FACE HAS ALREADY BEEN GIVEN THE STARTING JOB, THERE SHOULD BE NO THREAT OF D.J. OUT PERFORMING HIM THIS PRESEASON.

irvin

April 16th, 2009
10:11 pm

Britton isn’t much of a pass blocker. At least not as a left OT. Who knows how he would do on the right side. Doesn’t matter anyways as we have solidified our O.Line and will not waste a first on a tackle.

Nookah

April 16th, 2009
11:22 pm

Yeah D3, I’ve had the Labatts. Pretty good brew. A’int nothing like an Ice Cold Red Stripe and an NFL Draft (no pun intended).

D LED, don’t listen to the rumour, I am not a sales rep for Red Stripe, just proud of my heritage!!!

GO FALCONS!!!!

Nuff respect everytime!!!

D3

April 16th, 2009
11:24 pm

So, in honor of DOL’s super-jacked Mock 5.0 coming out…..

Mock Draft Cinco.1
1)Brandon Pettigrew – TE/ yep, made the switch
2)William Moore – S
3)Cody Brown – OLB
4)Roy Miller – DT
5a)Keenan Lewis – CB
5b)Marko Mitchell – WR
6)Zach Potter – DE
7)Ramon Foster – T

Aim the torpedos and fire away! See you on the flip side boys. And on that note……………

8 DAYS, 12 HOURS, 35 MINS, & COUNTING!!!!!!!!

Nookah

April 16th, 2009
11:27 pm

Oh I should also tell you guys we’ll get a backup DT in the later rounds….Roy Miller from Texas it is.

Nuff respect!!

Nookah

April 16th, 2009
11:38 pm

D3, I like your 4th round selection (see my last post). I guess you posted just before I did.

Nuff respect!!

Stirg d'Nahsif

April 16th, 2009
11:38 pm

Good one, Reno 911. They did enter Sanchez’s name into the equation. That’s what made Jacksonville entertain any trade offers. There is a sudden big buzz over Sanchez and pundits are mocking him as high as number four to Seattle. Otherwise, Jacksonville would consider Jeremy Maclin for their number eigth pick. It seems, without Sanchez available, Jacksonville will consider any and all trades.

Irvin, like how you think. Run defense, especially on Anderson’s side, will fix itself. Although pass defense does need improving, I think our book ends, Abraham and Anderson, will prevail. I made an entry, some weeks ago, regarding the maturation of a defensive end. Enter Michael Johnson here. I don’t think Johnson would last to the second round but he’d make a great pupil to replace Abraham in the coming years. From that research I did, we know that this may be the year that Anderson (and Abraham, again) serves us 10+ sacks. Lets not forget Davis; that’ll contribute to your solution of two-gap tackles. Move Anderson inside, on passing situations, and swing Davis to the end.

D3, once again, you’re on point. Thanks for reminding me of that tandem. It was I, even, that suggested Raji may be overrated because of Brace’s contribution. Still, D, you can’t deny what Raji brings to the table. Even with Brace in the consideration for Raji’s performance, why is he still being mocked in the second round? Seems to me, if he’s that good, he should be marked within a few picks of Raji (sort of like the USC linebacking corps’ scenario). Again, if you want a prosperous company, you recruit the best employees. If Raji is available for the taking, I say pull the trigger. …And Pettigrew is finally your mocked “24″; you’ve come around. Did I have anything to do with that?

marko: Rosie O’Donnell, nose tackle; good one! LMAO

Nookah, so you like Conner Barwin, yeah. I must admit, I’m not to familiar with the cat. Do you like him for the position more than you like Michael Johnson? Let me know something before I start campaigning for either one. I’m rolling with your suggestion; I trust your judgement. I always trust a man that shares a Red Stripe.

Ken Strickland

April 16th, 2009
11:51 pm

NOOKAH-I’ll bow to your wisdom and leave these haters to themselves.

FALCON21-JAnderson won’t be switched to DT, but rather used as a hybrid, so to speak. He’ll be used at DT as an inside pass rusher, same as last yr. On passing downs, Anderson and Babineaux will provide the inside pass rush and JAbraham and either KBiermann or our draft pick will provide the outside pass rush. Otherwise, Anderson will likely be a part of the regular DE rotation.

MAARKO-I don’t know if we should take another chance on a former TE turned DE. Remember, our current DE JAnderson was a converted from TE, and we see how much difficulty he’s had with the switch, after excelling in college.

There isn’t a player in this draft that’s worthy of us giving up the multiple picks it would take to move up 16 slots in the draft. Raji is bigger and might be stronger than Jerry, but that doesn’t mean he’s a better pick for us than Jerry. Raji certainly isn’t good enough to sacrifice as much as we’d have to sacrifice to get him, especially with the possibility that Jerry could be available at #24.

It’s no accident that TD and Smitty have stocked the roster with versatile safeties like Coleman, Harris, DeCoud and Fudge, who have the talent to play cover 2 zone DEF. With LMalloy gone, there isn’t a traditional SS on our roster. Also, with overweight, short winded DT GJackson and aging SS LMalloy gone, efforts will no longer have to be made to compensate for their limitations. Let’s face it, with Grady, we were vulnerable to screens, play action pass plays, and unable to do much, if any, DL stunting. Having those limitations removed will automatically improve our DEF.

Nookah

April 16th, 2009
11:56 pm

Stirg, did you see my 6:06 post? This is what I said about MJ……Johnson has all the attributes but can he really be the hybrid and is he cross-trainable as Smitty loves his players to be. However, certainly if we want a pure pass rusher, he’s our man……….

I gave Barwin the edge even though he’s just played defense for 1 year but I think he has the attributes and high upside, just what the Duo is always looking for. TD/Smitty likes fast, athletic, heady, versatile and high character guys. He has been described as a Mike Vrabel clone and that’s not a bad compliment. Believe me, I too like MJ but I am giving Mike Mayock the benefit of the doubt. He’s closer to the info than I am. However, if we picked him, I would not complain as I have faith in this management team but my pick is Barwin.

Oh, by the way I know nothing more than you do just doing my research and trying to think out of the box. Remember TD put’s up a lot of smoke screens.

Go Falcons!!!

Nuff respect!!!

irvin

April 17th, 2009
12:21 am

Thanks Stirg. I agree with your assessment on Anderson. I always believed that it would take him every bit of three years to come around. I would say anywhere between 8 to 12 sacks will be the number for him this year. Just so you guys know, T.Lewis played mostly UT in college. His strength is in penetration, but when he came to Atlanta the coaching staff discovered that he could anchor the double team at nose guard. He has only gotten stronger while rehabbing that knee. Good point about Grady K. Strick. Lewis is a major upgrade over big Grady, and he has the agility to chase down those screens and blow up the draw.

Big Ray

April 17th, 2009
12:24 am

STIRG,

Very interesting comments about trading up and what not. I think Raji is worth it. He may not be a Warren Sapp, but if he’s anything like that guy, he’s worth trading up to get. As for Ron Brace, I believe there is always a player or two who gets mocked lower than his teammate for various reasons. I think Brace is solid, but not as quick as Raji. That, and the DT position isn’t considered that deep in this draft. Other positions have come to the forefront for whatever reason, and I think that’s one of the reasons why Brace “became” a 2nd-rounder by way of mock draft. Or, I could be wrong…

KEN STRICKLAND,

Don’t let them draw it all out of you. I know it’s hard to resist. But you can only call an ignorant person ignorant so many times before it begins to make you look crazy. And you ain’t crazy. Don’t let ‘em bother you so much. Sometimes a casual slap is so much more effective and satisfying than a furious punch. Know what I mean? Speaking of which…

BIGEASY830,

I can’t blame you for not liking the fact that we keep talking about last year. After all, you couldn’t have possibly enjoyed last year. Not with the Falcons winning as much as they did. I mean, a new coach, a new GM, busted up veterans, rookie QB, and youngsters we didn’t recognize. It was a perfect situation for somebody like you, right? Wrong. We won 11 games. You’re right, we most likley won’t win 11 of them this year. Maybe that will make you feel better! I mean, that IS why you’re still around, right? To see the anticipated failure? Well, considering the team will be smarter, more cohesive, and more experienced, and all you have to go on is a tough schedule, do you think your odds of satisfaction are better…or worse?

VICK SUPPORTER 2,

While I’m sure you will pretend to not have seen this, I have to say, you’re not doing such a good job. No, really, you’ve done a good job all last year of supporting Vick and harassing the board as much as possible. And you brought us such good luck with all of your faulty loss predictions?

But….I thought you were here to support Vick? Shouldn’t you be helping him get his bankruptcy recovery plan straight (and suitable for presentation in court) or finding him a better job than the construction gig he’s being offered? What kind of supporter are you? You’re spending all your time trying to get feedback from us! Traitor…. :) ;)

D3,

Sorry. Couldn’t help it. I’m deviant by nature…

irvin

April 17th, 2009
12:38 am

Nookah- I still think that Barwin’s pass rush is very raw in comparison to Johnson’s. But could you imagine Barwin’s athleticism as the SAM? He would be able to keep up with TE’s in coverage and would be a beast blitzing from that position. It may take him some time to get with the program but with a dominate front four and Peterson to help guide him at LB, he may become a certified play-maker.

What if we were somehow able to get both of those guys on the first day? Our D would be absolutely sick! GO FALCONS!!!

Big Ray

April 17th, 2009
12:39 am

NOOKAH,

You like Barwin over Johnson? Interesting. Now, assuming we keep all the picks we currently have (and don’t do any trading), where do you see us picking up Barwin?

STIRG,

Something else occurred to me. This is in some ways, the age of the linebacker, but we’re moving towards the age of the “Extreme Safety.” You know how this goes, it’s kind of like going with whatever’s trendy. Defenses have been going more and more with linebackers that are versatile. I recently read an article talking about how the middle linebacker position is fading into the background, and the versatile outside linebacker is coming to the forefront.

I think that is why you will see several linebackers (like the USC crowd) lumped closely together on mock drafts. I also think you’ll see a “run” on linebackers in the draft, and probably on receivers and safeties, too. But you won’t see that on defensive tackles. You see, it’s the linebackers that also are talked about as doubling as defensive ends. Look at the guys who are mentioned in both positions: Aaron Maybin, Larry English, Cushing, Matthews, Barwin, etc. The only reason why Maualuga is part of that tight cluster is because he is considered hands-down the most dynamic middle LB in the draft. Laurinaitis is second, but he is a bit of a distant second (as far as hype/excitement factors).

The hybrid DE/OLB is the “it” thing. And right on the heels of it is the hybrid safety that can just about play like a linebacker, but is also absolute murder in coverage. HOWEVER, there are few safeties in the draft, and none of them seem to be (at least at first glance) like an Ed Reed or Troy Polamalu. We might see one emerge like that, but none look that special just yet, that we know of.

And so, the linebacker position is IT. Defensive tackles (at least the good ones) are rarely known as being all that versatile. You rarely find a run-stuffer that can also play on the end and rush the quarterback quickly. And even fewer are known as 3-technique types (or more), meaning that they only have certain moves that they use to get past blockers and into the backfield. Not to mention some are tuned specifically for 3-4 sets or 4-3 sets.

And if you are stuck on a particular set, then no matter how good a guy is, if he just doesn’t fit your primary defensive scheme, then you can’t really use him.

Again, that’s where the linebackers come in. More versatility. Allows you to change/adjust your schemes. More game-changing ability. Especially when you’re talking about dropping back into coverage, something you’re just not going to expect or get out of a DT. So, DTs are judged almost exclusively on stats. Doesn’t matter if you drew double teams all year long, for 2 years straight. Those doing mock drafts don’t see that. What they see is how many tackles for loss, and how many sacks.

And that’s why I think you’ll see guys like Raji and Brace that far apart. Victims of circumstance, if you will.

Big Ray

April 17th, 2009
12:40 am

Irvin,

Hope you’re right. We really need the help down there in the trenches. Lewis may be just the guy…

Stirg d'Nahsif

April 17th, 2009
12:47 am

I like that, Nookah; I like that. We ought to express more confidence in TD’s decision making and settle for whom he decides that best fits our scheme.

I remember a few weeks ago, I researched New England’s draft picks during TD’s tenure as Director of Scouts. I wanted to get a feel of what kind of players fit “the Matrix” and what players prospered since his pickings. Y’all remember that?

I was just over Fox Sports and John Czarnecki, a Pro Football Hall of Fame selector, ranked each team in the same manner as I did New England. Czarnecki covered the time period 2003-’08 (the period TD would have been in New England). For the most part, most of the teams averaged C’s. Detroit and Jacksonville both failed with a D. Incidentally, Atlanta graded a B+. He was very stingy with grading teams with an “A” but the exception belong to the Cardinals, Cowboys, Colts, Steelers, Chargers and Giants. There was only one team that made the grade of an A+. You guessed it, the New England Patriots.

Say what you want, fellows. Despite all our mock(ery), Thomas Dimitroff (I can’t believe I’ve learned to spell his name without looking it up) will make the right choices and decisions for the betterment of our team.

Check out the review: http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/9453994/Draft-review:-How-every-team-ranks-from-2003-‘08?gt1=39002

Stirg d'Nahsif

April 17th, 2009
12:59 am

Thanks, Big Ray. Your explanation is on point (always wanted to know about 3-technique). Judging from that, who do you like for our DT situation?

irvin

April 17th, 2009
12:59 am

I think that as long as we find a good run stuffer to help with rotation that we will be okay on the interior. Your right on about the DT position Big Ray. To echo on that thought, Brace isn’t quite as good at penetration as Raji is, so he would never get the same kind of consideration. On a good year for DT’s he would probably only get third or fourth round consideration.

irvin

April 17th, 2009
1:24 am

If I might offer my opinion Stirg, I would say draft Dorell Scott to rotate with T.Lewis. He has good size and bulk and is very strong. He is stout at the Point Of Attack, can shed blockers and occupy the double team. Scouts say he does not have good stamina but he would be in a rotation anyways.

marko

April 17th, 2009
6:42 am

Ken Strickland, I don’t know that much about Connor I don’t care much for small school athletes. at least not in the early rounds. We should always temper this stuff a bit because Jerry Rice and Walter Payton came from small schools, and I don’t think that they turned out that bad.

The other thing that turns me off Connor is his limited resume. One year at the position, and stats produced at a lower level of competition don’t inspire tremendous amounts of confidence.

On the plus side he’s a big kid that runs 4.5’s all day long. Non stop motor, I wish I had a copy right on that phrase, Academic honor roll And a red zone threat at tight end. When’s the last time you saw a player record two sacks in the first half and catch a touchdown in the second? I suspect Dimitroff might be impressed by that kind of stuff.

I ran across him because he’s on the radar at New England. He’s called a Mike Vabrel clone, and a perfect fit for their system.

Does he fit our system? What is our system? All I know is that New England wants him with their first second round pick. I’m starting to think that if they want him badly they need to start thinking first round.

marko

April 17th, 2009
6:49 am

Orlando Da Man, Most this stuff is about exploring possibilities. What say, we explore the Possibility that the Falocons don’t select Clint Sintim this week. With A little effort We’re sure that you can come up with an equally lame choice. If I’m wrong about this, I prefer my crow well done.

dasocial worker

April 17th, 2009
7:35 am

Some people never fail to amaze me. If you are going to get Reshad from Alabama.. fine… but dont go drafting a corner or a linebacker. We can make due with what we have. Get some hogs up front first so we can get in the backfield. If teams would not be able to push our line around, then the corners would look a lot better. Plus we have a corner coming off an injury Von, and though short Brent Grimes plays 5 times bigger, so lets leave the corner position to next year and build from the line up… We have corners and linebackers, plus there will be plenty coming out next year. (which will be much better than the choices this year)

bigeasy830

April 17th, 2009
7:43 am

Ken Strickland, last year’s success of the Falcons can be best described as modest at best. 11-5 record, whoopie!! But, they lost in the first round of the play-offs. Your QB showed his true colors the last 3 games of the regular season and the play-off game. I have been browsing through your blogs from time to time and notice that you all have been dropping many names that you think may solve your problems on defense, namely Tre Lewis, who was a 5th or 6th round draft pick that has had knee injuries, Tony Gonzales, the aging TE that have seen his best days and a countless number of draft prospects. Now, congrats to the Falcons for their modest sucess of 2008, you are right no one not even most of you predicted it(except one heart beat Barry,shhh don’t tell anyone it’s a secret)hahaha. Last year is in the rearview mirror, 2009 is a new year and a new season. The Falcons were not even the best story of last year it was the Dolphins who actually won their division. Now, I am not a Saints fan but with Greg Williams as D-Coordinator to go with Sean Payton’s offense, they will be very tough in 2009. Falcons suck, Matt Ryan will look more like the next Danny Wuerffel than the next Tom Brady, and Michael Turner carried them to victories last year but the wear on him will show by midseason 2009. You better get another RB to help him out, Norwood stays hurt to much. You can post your counter arguments but only time will tell. They will start the season soon and the games will begin. Unlike the NCAA and the BCS the best teams and players are determined on the field.

Fresh for 2009, You…..

Stirg d'Nahsif

April 17th, 2009
8:19 am

Ken, do you want me to handle your light weight? Its been a long time since I been to the “Big Easy” (Saints v. Falcons, ‘01) and I roasted a few then. Its been almost ten years but I’d sure like to eat some crab right about now. Just let me know; I’ll get him.

JJ

April 17th, 2009
8:23 am

Not biting today….however, I do agree that turner cannot be over used again. I would love to see more of Jason Snelling! While Turner would tip toe to the line sometimes, Snelling is a steamroller with speed.

Although red stripe is a fine beer, how ’bout my bitch: St. Pauli!

8 days baby, 8 days!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

FALCONSHATER2009

April 17th, 2009
8:32 am

I HAVE JOINED THE BIG EASY AND VS 2 FAMILY. THE FALCONS ARE GOING TO HAVE A MISERABLE SEASON. MATT RYAN IS GOIN TO BUST LIKE A CHAMPAGNE BOTTLE ON CONCRETE.

Falcon228

April 17th, 2009
8:38 am

So I guess your disappointment runs deep be830. Your guys choose Reggie Bush and he stays hurt. Your other running back, ole deucie, gets released because his knees are shot. Now I see he’s already broke because Nissan drove up to his dealership a few days ago and hauled off his inventory. So what’s next? Another high draft pick for ole Payton & Loomis to waste on a bust. Just as sure as you can find gumbo in the quarter NO will be looking for a new Head Coach come January 2010. Just about the time the Falcons will be waiting to see who gets to play us after the NFC Wild Card weekend. TD and Smitty don’t miss.

tbhawksfan

April 17th, 2009
9:20 am

While I wait for Led’s lateast mock; here’s another one from me.

#24: Maybin OLB
#55: DJ Moore CB
#90 Barnes CB
#125: Taylor DT
#138: Taylor FS (LSU)
#143: Maiva OLB
#176: Pascoe TE

The defense should have a real chance with thesee addtions. I know that puts alot of CB’s on the roster, but quality at a key position is vastly upgraded with two big, fast CB’s. Losing the weakest link wouldn’t be a bad thing. LB would become a team strength. Maybin has power and speed and Maiva could be a very quick OLB. Taylor is a big run stopper. He would definately help the Babs/Lewis and sometimes Andersen DT rotation.

#138 is a toss up. I’m tempted to look for an OL with this pick. A FS really completes the D though.

Add an OL FA and it seems the team is ready to roll.

Nookah

April 17th, 2009
10:20 am

Big Ray, thanks for the response man. I cannot articulate how much I look forward to this each day. It’s just great fun and excitement to read and exchange views about potential players for our beloved Falcons with you guys.

Anyway, Big Ray, I am giving Conner the edge because I think he has more upside and versatility (note I said “think”). Perhaps, as I mentioned in a previous post, someone with a coach’s eye may see something in MJ that I am not seeing (that’s why they get paid the big bucks), and may select him. If you read one of my earlier posts I also said if we selected MJ I certainly would have no problem and it would certainy allow me to defer to the braintrust. After all that’s why I blog about it and they get paid to do it.

However, where you and I are of one voice is when you “fantacised” about us getting both on day 1. Now that’s a dream that’s got lots of pipes!!!!! However, that’s one of the purposes of this blog…we can dream!!!

Irvin, I agree wholeheartedly with you, Conner is indeed raw but the question is, is he coachable or a “flash-in-the-pan”? We’ll find out in 7 days +, won’t we? However, I’m sticking to my pick (for now). Perhaps more information will become available soon.

Go Falcons!!!!

Nuff respect everytime!!!

mars

April 17th, 2009
11:05 am

After perusing the new schedule, I must say I don’t understand what the fuss is about. I really don’t see anyone that appears overly intimidating. I was much more worried last year at this time. Schedule seemed a lot more daunting. All this is based on the assumption that we won’t start making stupid decisions like drafting tightends in the first round and other such nonsense.

angry banker

April 17th, 2009
11:28 am

well, the scedule looks pertty tough – but you never can tell who will have a good season. Sometimes it only takes an injury to change an entire season.

If we have a draft half as good as the last one then we’ll win the NFC south. I have a nagging feeling the saints will win it and we’ll get the wild card again.

D3

April 17th, 2009
11:29 am

Mornin’ boys! Great to be alive on a friday morning, especially one week out from the draft. That’s one thing about the draft that makes it so much fun for me, is that there’s so much build-up, talk, and anticipation for when actually does come its the good stuff. Great convo’s going on this morning. You guys brought your A games today, eh?

DOL – can’t wait for the new mock. You gonna follow your boy Steve and finally take Pettigrew for Stirg & I?

Stirg – I’d definitely say Raji would be an amazing addition, just depends on how far he falls. I’ve seen going as high as #4 to Seattle, but not dropping past Denver @ #12. Maybe a few had him slipping past the Broncs’, but not many. The package would be to great IMO to move up and give up picks past, say 18 or so. Good thought-provoking question as always. Will DOL finally pull the trigger and go with our boy?

Nookah – agreed on your analysis of MJ. I think he has the ‘potential’ to be great, but is so raw still. Some people probably don’t, but I put a good bit of stock in Mayock’s comments because he’s a tape fanatic, and that’s the thing he always brings up is the massive pile of tape that MJ just didn’t show up. I’d say only way to take him in 1st is if we move J.Anderson inside permanently, and that does not appear to be in the plans. Absolutely, Red Stripe over Labatts anyday. Can you shed any light for me on Red Stripe light? Sold in Jamaica, but evidently not in the US.

irvin – true points on Anderson. As Stirg research a while back, DE’s usually have a 2, but more likely 3 year learning curve. So this is definitely put up or shut up for Jamaal Anderson. Love the C.Davis signing, because he might just beat JA out. The dude just makes plays when he’s on the field. Key to big Trey is health. Two knee injuries in a year and a half. Gotta draft for depth and competition regardless.

Big Ray – what’s up my brother? Great minds think alike. LB class is it this year. And the draft is so volatile when you pick so late, you gotta be flexible and I believe that, as you mentioned, DT, S, & CB are all needs for us, but either have top-end talent and a huge drop-off (Raji-DT’s/Jenkin-CB’s) or not worthy of a first round pick (S’s). If any of following are available, I don’t see us passing on ‘em: Cushing/Maybin/Matthews/English. The lone exception is Pettigrew. I’m consumed way too much Pettigrew grape kool-aid because he would COMPLETE our OFF for years to come.

Got myself some brats to grill, and can’t wait to try Sierra Nevada’s new Summerfest. Jonesin’ boys, jonesin’.

8 DAYS, 0 HOURS, 30 MINS, & COUNTING!!!!!!

JG

April 17th, 2009
11:31 am

dasocial worker,
I think I may have to agree with you.
But we have a ton of holes So I would use #24 for D Tackle (Peria or Ziggy, Brace), 2nd round on a Safety ( Rashad or Chung), Now we may need a Center- (Caldwell or Woods – both would be A-TYPE big Anchors on the O line) in 3rd round. 4th round a tightEnd ( Coffman Casey, Nelson) 5th Round- Back up Corner , 5th round -a backup Linebacker to Nichols or Wire? 6th round – Back up Tackle for Baker/Clabo…

I just need this draft to get here already..

larry w.

April 17th, 2009
11:36 am

There was a time when I posted regularly on the these blogs. I stopped because they became so negative and hateful. Venomous racism running rampant on both sides. Now it appears that real football people are posting. Some of the old regulars still have not come back, but we have some great new posters giving excellent insight. Ken is still hanging in there I see and continues to write well thought out, informative posts. I just want say, keep up the good work guys. It is a pleasure to read you comments.

Ken Strickland

April 17th, 2009
11:37 am

STIRG D-two heads are always better than one, so I’d welcome your assistance.

BIGEASY830-based on the civilized way you responded to my comments, you deserve a simular response from me. Just saying the Falcons and MRyan will faulter next season just doesn’t justify your position. Like I said before, you’re relying strictly on WISHFUL THINKING, and I can show you why.

You classify the Falcons’ 11-5 record as modest, yet you praise the Dolphins, who finished with an identical record, as some big achievement because they won their division. They won it because of a tie breaker with the Patriots, who also finished with an 11-5 record. If the Dolphins had been in our division the would have tied with us for 2nd behind the Panthers who fininsed 12-4. But you can’t afford to do any research or use common sense because you can’t dealing with reality.

Then you praise the Saints, who finished last in our division at 8-8, just because they have a new DC and HC SPeyton. Didn’t you notice HC SPeyton and his OFF were in place last yr when they finished last in the division? You carefully selected the last 3 gms of the season to judge QB MRyan, but what about the other 13gms? Saints QB DBrees was AllPro in 07, yet he managed to lead his team to last place and 8-8 in 08. QB MRyan, a rookie, did a much better job of leading his team than the highest rated QB in the NFL in 07. NOT BAD FOR A ROOKIE QB, WITH A ROOKIE HC, A NEW COACHING STAFF, A NEW OFF/DEF, A NEW OL, A NEW RB AND A NEW GM.

I want to show you just how uninformed you are and how stupid you appear when you make ignorant statements designed to promote your WISHFUL THINKING. You made the following statement, “TONY GONZALEZ, THE AGING TE THAT HAS SEEN HIS BEST DAYS AND A COUNTLESS NUMBER OF DRAFT PROSPECTS”. Well, that aging TE finished 12th in the entire NFL in receiving yds, and the closest TE to him was Dallas’ Jason Whitten who finished 25th. His 96 receptions placed him 4th in the entire NFL. If that’s OVER THE HILL, I’ll take it any day of the week, and so would you, if you had any sense.

IT’S PERFECTLY ALRIGHT IF YOU’RE NOT FALCONS FANS. BUT PLEASE, YOU GUYS HAVE GOT TO STOP MAKING AN ABSOLUTE FOOL OF YOURSELVES BY ESPOUSING THESE TOTALLY SENSELESS, TOTALLY UNSUBSTANTIATED COMMENTS ABOUT THE TEAM JUST TO FUEL YOUR FANTACIES AND WISHFULL THINKING. IT REFLECTS ON YOU FAR MORE THAN IT DOES THE FALCONS, NOT THAT YOU CARE.

GOOD LUCK TO ALL OF YOU THIS SEASON, BECAUSE YOU’LL NEED IT WHEN THE FALCONS START KICKING BUTT.

Intramural Team is Aggressive

April 17th, 2009
11:40 am

I’ve really come around on Pettigrew. Our greatest need is defense, that’s for sure. But if TD’s scouting evaluations say that the drop off between the best defensive player available at 24 and someone we could take in the second round, and Pettigrew is a safer, better pick, then Pettigrew should get taken. After all, it’s pretty unlikely we’ll get as luck as we did last season with our draft picks becoming immediate impact players and a dynamic offense could really take some pressure of the young guys we bring in to play D.

D3

April 17th, 2009
11:50 am

marko – you got it on Barwin. As you and Nookah mentioned, its looking more and more like we’ll have to snag him in the first or trade out to a HIGH second, because he looks to be gone way before #55. Could imagine or dream if we got Pettigrew AND Barwin. Ah, to dream.

JJ – rockin’ the old school St.Pauli girl. Love it. Hadn’t had it in a while, but D@– good brew. Nothing like a good St.Pauli’s on a cool day. Gotta go with the Sierra Nevada Summerfest tonight. After going all cheap, domestic for so long, I’ve gone back to my college day and paying a little more to try to some good, new beers. If like in your face hops, try Hop Devil. Takes a minute to get used to, but is good stuff. D@–, is this a beer blog? I guess you know what my two favorite things are. Like what Snelling brings to the table, but here’s the big question: do we keep Snelling AND my boy from Tucker, TBrown? One of my fav. players of all-time, from Tucker, GA AND went to UGA AND went to the Falcons. Love those hometown boys.

tbhawks – sweet mock bro’. Most mocks don’t have Maybin slipping past the Broncos, but definitely past Houston or Washington. I’ve seen like one or two having him dropping to our area, but thats it. Love to get our hands on him. One tiny change: sub in Nelson/Cook/Coffman/Casey for CB Barnes. Just don’t see us taking 2 CB’s with what we got on our roster, or dropping past the 3rd for this deep, deep TE class.

mars & angry bank – agreed on schedule. There’s only a couple of games that worry me a little. As long as we “Defend the Dome’ we’ll be fine. Miami, Chicago, & maybe Washington put me a little nervous in putting a dent in our ‘Dome Defense’. 9-7 or 10-6. 11-5 would be masterful. Angry, me too on Saints. Sean Payton’s seat isn’t burning yet, but two bad to weak seasons in a row not good for him after his awesome first year. If they get Beanie Wells, I’ll be a good bit more worried. Reggie Bush is NOT an everydown back, IMO. Maybe he and his rockstar buddy Leinart should spend a little more time in the tape room or weight room instead of clubbin’ with the Kardashians.

D3

April 17th, 2009
11:58 am

Normally I say don’t take the hate bait, but Ken just put a smack-down @-whoopin on the board. Cool off bro: game, set, match.

larry w – welcome back my friend. I would be considered one of those new guys I guess, but this is my new favorite hobby. I try to get the ‘boys on here to not take the hate bait, because if nothing else it is not mentally stimulating. Same repetitive arguments over and over gives us true football fans nothing. Well-thought out, intelligent, and respectful arguments are a lot of fun and mentally engaging.

intramural – I know. The Pettigrew orange kool-aid finally seeped into my pores and brain. I’m sold. The only big problem is this after listening to Sirius NFL Radio this morning:
-The Bills will most likely not spend their #11 on Pettigrew, but if they trade T Jason Peters to the Eagles for their #21, than you can kiss Pettigrew good-bye.

F.Y.I

April 17th, 2009
12:11 pm

USC OLB Clay Matthews reportedly created a Facebook group during his junior season called “White Nation,” which showed a photo of an African American baby in handcuffs.

Under the picture was a caption saying “arrest black babies before they become criminals.” It also said “This group is not for the faint of heart. All members are athletes of Caucasion descent. We are just doing our duty of protecting the Arian brotherhood.” Brian Cushing, K David Buehler, and former Redskins draft pick Dallas Sartz joined the group. The athletic dept. billed the group as a joke. Matthews later issued a formal apology.

D3

April 17th, 2009
12:23 pm

Very concerning that Matthews would display poor judgement, but when former teammates of race in question publicly come out supporting him, it might actually be an inside joke. However, the severe lack of judgement is really stupid.

Football player Sedrick Ellis sent Gopaul a message explaining that “White Nation” is an inside joke on the team and that Matthews is not racist.
“My goal was that the picture and group be taken down,” Gopaul said. “Even though you have this inside joke, it shouldn’t be brought to Facebook because people will see it who aren’t in on it.”
Gopaul said she then received a message from Matthews.
“At first, Clay Matthews sounded a bit upset with me, and understandably so,” Gopaul said. “But he was very nice in his second letter once I explained my intentions and actions to him.”
Matthews said that another person posted the picture, and he was unsure of how to delete the group, Gopaul said.
He also wrote a formal apology to the members of “Clay Matthews (USC football player) expresses anti-black sentiment.”
“He told us that he immediately went online to explain it and apologize, and to say this is not indicative of his or the team’s attitude,” said Tim Tessalone, director of sports information.
“We talked to him about how something done without serious intent could be perceived in a negative light and he agreed; he felt badly for his poor judgment, and he quickly moved to correct it.”
A source from the athletic department said Matthew’s apology said he was sorry, and that the group was not serious and had no racist intent. He also said his roommate and best friend are black and said that it was poor judgment on his part to create the group

Entire Article:
http://www.dailytrojan.com/news/facebook-group-lands-usc-football-player-in-hot-water-1.206854

irvin

April 17th, 2009
12:24 pm

tbhawksfan- I have some concern with your mock. DJ Moore is only 5′9″ and though Barnes has good hight and long arms, he has thin hips and is a bit of a one year wonder. He also has major durability concerns and just plain can not tackle. I can live with the rest though.

Nookah- Thanks. Very excited about the draft as well. Barwin is a player that I will be watching no matter where he ends up.

FALCONSHATER2009

April 17th, 2009
12:33 pm

FIRST KEN NAME CALLING IS CHILDISH. YOU CLAIM TO KNOW SO MUCH ABOUT YOUR BELOVED FALCONS. FIRST OF ALL MATT RYAN IS SO DAMN OVER RATED IT IS PATHETIC. YOU HAVE NO DEFENSE AT ALL. YOU NEED MORE THAN A TE TO WIN IN FOOTBALL JUST ASK THE COWBOYS. SECOND YOU GUYS CANT EVEN WIN A PLAYOFF GAME LET ALONE A SUPER BOWL. MIKE VICK WAS THE NEW FACE OF YOUR WACK FRANCHISE. HE TURNED YALL INTO WINNERS. YOUR TEAM NEEDS ALL THE LUCK IT CAN GET. NOW BE A GENTLEMAN WITH YOUR RESPONSE CUZ I AM 2 GROWN FOR NAMES OR GAMES.

VICK SUPPORTER 2

April 17th, 2009
1:26 pm

FACT CHECKER:

MORA—>MCKAY—>VICK……..CHAMPIONSHIP GAME

SMITH—>TD—>…………..1 AND DONE.

VICK SUPPORTER 2

April 17th, 2009
2:07 pm

“FALCONSHATER2009″ – YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND SOMETHING ON THIS BLOG. THOSE INDIVIDUALS THAT USE NAME CALLING IS QUITE SIMPLE. THEY ARE NOT CAPABLE OF HAVING INTELLIGENT DISCUSSIONS BECAUSE THEY LACK THE CAPACITY.

SOME OF THEM WRITE LONG WINDED AND BORING NON-SENSE ABOUT HOW MUCH MORE THEY KNOW ABOUT FOOTBALL. MY ADVICE TO YOU – LET THEM TALK. YOU SEEM LIKE AN INTELLIGENT GUY, AND YOU JUST LIKE EVERYBODY THAT KNOWS ANYTHING ABOUT FOOTBALL – THE FALCONS SUCKED BEFORE AND AFTER VICK.

F.Y.I.

April 17th, 2009
2:10 pm

This was published March 20, 2007 by The Daily Trojan (USC News):

White Nation Group Makes National News

USC football player Clay Matthews Jr. and his teammates will not be punished by the university for their involvement in the “White Nation” Facebook group, according to the Los Angeles Times.

The controversy first reported in the Daily Trojan before spring break garnered national attention and prompted discussion on the limitations of jokes, racism and Facebook privacy.

“He’s done what he could to apologize,” coach Pete Carroll said about Matthews to the Times. “I think he’s taken all the right steps for anybody that it offended. And there was never any intent of that at all.”

The inside joke started when running backs coach and special teams coordinator Todd McNair jokingly referred to a group of Caucasian players on the kick-off team as “White Nation.”

“I made the name. The White Nation,” McNair said to the Times. “Just playfully, man.”

Clay Matthews Jr., a linebacker, created the Facebook group whose majors included teammates David Buehler, Brian Cushing, Dan Deckas and Dallas Sartz.

“This group is not for the faint of heart,” read the group’s description. “All members are athletes of Caucasian (sic) descent. DISCLAIMER: In no way are the following memebers (sic) intolerant of others, we are just doing our duty of protecting the Arian (sic) brotherhood.”

People outside of USC joined without Matthews’ knowledge and posted a graphic of a black baby in handcuffs with the caption “arrest black babies before they become criminals,” an image created by an online clothing company T-Shirt Hell.

Michael L. Jackson, vice president of student affairs, said the group reflects poorly on the university.

“While the group was evidently created as an offshoot to joking between races among teammates at USC, this joke was clearly taken to an improper length,” he said to the Times. “The action of the students involved goes against the core values of what it means to be a member of the Trojan Family – and doesn’t represent our diverse community.”

Stefanie Gopaul, a freshman majoring in health promotion and disease prevention studies, heard about the “White Nation” group and started the rebuttal Facebook group “Clay Matthews (USC football player) expresses anti-black sentiment.”

The day after the Daily Trojan article, the Los Angeles Times reported the story. Eventually, CBS, Sports Illustrated, Drudge Report and the Orange County Register also picked up the story.

The original article has nearly 300 online comments and more than 300,000 page views, the most in the history of the Daily Trojan’s website.

Many comments expressed the view that despite being a joke, the group is still offensive.

“I’ve frankly never heard of a ‘joke’ like this,” wrote a website commenter who identified himself as Tim. “This is a problem. We should see it and talk about it. The inability to explain why this is supposed to be funny is why the Klan always wore hoods.”

The spelling errors in the Facebook group descriptions also prompted comments from readers.

“Before we all get our panties in a bunch, I think we need to send the football team to a hooked on phonics class FIRST,” wrote a reader who identified himself as Andy.

Discussion about the issue erupted on the blogosphere and online message boards.

The athletic department and football team are putting the matter behind them.

“I think I speak for the whole team when I say we respect Clay, and we have his best interests at heart and we just hope it all goes away,” football player Sedrick Ellis said to the Times.

bigeasy830

April 17th, 2009
2:37 pm

Ken Strickland, it amazes me how you left out a few facts. The Saints ranked first in offense last year but almost last in all defensive catagories, the addition of a proven defensive coordinator will definitely improve that standing and make the Saints a very tough team in 2009. Eventhough both the Falcons and Dolphins had the same reecord, the Falcons were merley a playoff team that was one and done. The Dolphins won their division last year. They can lay claim to being the best in the AFC East. Before the rest of you Falcons fans chime in, how many years did you say at least the Brave won the East, ok enough on that. Tony Gonzalez did have a very good year last year, I never said he didn’t and he has been one of the best TE in the game for a while. But, last year he had 96 catches on a on a very bad 2-14 team. That’s like having a 25 point scorer in the NBA on a 13 and 69 team, but irregardless of that, the fact is Tony Gonzalez is 33, that is aging in any sport especially the NFL. An now to the subject of your main man Matt Ryan. He did play surprisingly well for the most part in the first 13 games, But in December when the Super Stars really start to shine, he played very poorly. He looked more like Danny Wuerfell than Tom Brady. He played like Tony Romo in the big games, choke, choke choke. Michael Turner really bailed the Falcons out in the last few regular season games. Those last 3 games, they did not win because of Matt Ryan, they won inspite of his play. Now you can disagreee with that assesment, but to call it “Uninformed” is a bit over the top even for you. But the most important point of them all is this, the Falcons were 11-5 last year and I have given them credit for a good year. I even acknoledge that after they beat Chicago last year at that time they were 5-3 and as Bill Parcells said “You are what you are”. But that was last year, 2009 is a new year and a new season, “Wishful thinking” is you expecting the football Gods to smile on that team again, but hey you are a Falcon’s fan and you should have “Happy Thoughts” about your team. But you can’t gut the the team of veteran players two years in a row and now face the 4th toughest schedule in the league and expect Lovie Smith to call a squib kick and Tampa to fall apart at the end of the year etc… and then dance into the play-offs. If your team goes 8-8, I have posted this before, just 8-8, I will stay off your blogs next season, because as long as Arthur Blank own the team, I would not cheer for them if my Granddady played QB for them and my Grandmother was the nose tackle.

Fresh for 2009, You…….

irvin

April 17th, 2009
3:03 pm

be830- Dude, your contradicting yourself. First you come on here implicating that the Falcons are over-achievers and that we should expect to go 8-8 at best. Then you say that as fans of our team, that we should be optimistic of our chances at a good winning record. WTF? We are optimistic! So why are you so set on downing us? We are happy about our prospects for the year. If you are not, that is fine too, but you don’t need to bother us about it. Why wait to leave our blog? You can just leave now.

bigeasy830

April 17th, 2009
3:24 pm

irvin, read the entire post, or better yet, I don’t know how long you have been on these blogs but this goes way back. I don’t think the Falcons will win more than 5 or 6 games, I actually believe they will go 4-12, but I posted if they go 8-8 I will stay off the Falcons blog. And, why is it “our” blog, it’s free country irvin. What, you can’t handle someone disagreeing with you, “It’s just Healthy Conversation” irvin. Why do you think the AJC reports MV7’s every move, to spark that dialogue. So if you don’t like what i post now irvin, you will really hate me once the season start. I have been somewhat dormant during the off season. I have been playing in the big sandbox in SW Asia all winter. But, I will be home soon and OTA’s are just around the corner. So VS, VS2, new family members WILLSTER and FALCONSHATER2009, its time to rise up. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Fresh for 2009, YOU SUCKERS!!!!!!!!

row3

April 17th, 2009
3:35 pm

BE…What did your Grandmother’s combine #’s look like, might could pick her up as an undrafted FA.

irvin

April 17th, 2009
3:37 pm

Bills to trade LT Jason Peters to Eagles for their 28th overall, a 4th and an undisclosed 2010 pick. WOW! We may be out of the running for Pettigrew. Eagles may take him at 21 or Bills may reach now at 11.

irvin

April 17th, 2009
3:45 pm

Not hating on you dude, but you do seem to be zeroing in on the Falcons is all that I am saying. Though I have not been posting on this blog long, I have been reading it for many months. New baby hasn’t allowed me to sit down and chat with you guys. None the less, I do respect some healthy conversation. Can do without the bashing though.

irvin

April 17th, 2009
3:51 pm

Robert Ayers had a visit with the Falcons. Thoughts?

row3

April 17th, 2009
3:54 pm

Bills may have to look at OL with their early pick.

VICK SUPPORTER 2

April 17th, 2009
4:02 pm

IF “JOE FLACCO” COULD DO IT – WHAT HAPPENED TO THE ROOKIE OF THE YEAR.

bigeasy830

April 17th, 2009
4:07 pm

I feel you irvin, but bashing goes on in this blog, some days it gets down right ugly. It’s all in good fun from my end can’t speak for everyone else though. row3 she is slower than christmas and weaker than a Matt Ryan pass, but I gaurantee you she will at least match Jamal Anderson’s 2007 sack totals and she can plug the middle against the run, hahahahaha. Just kidding grandma.

Fresh for 2007, You…..

FALCONSHATER2009

April 17th, 2009
4:08 pm

well irvin i cant let u come at my boy like that. just face the truth the falcons will be a mediocre team. yeah last season was good for you guys but this season the falcons wont even make the playoffs. matt ryan is like a one hit wonder

irvin

April 17th, 2009
4:16 pm

Hey whatever floats your boat! JA better get off his arse this year.

row3- You are probably right on that.

VICK SUPPORTER 2

April 17th, 2009
4:21 pm

MATT “RYAN LEAF” IS THE BUST I THOUGHT HE WAS – HE SHOULD GIVE MICHAEL TURNER AND RODDY WHITE HIS SIGNING BONUS MONEY.

Ken Strickland

April 17th, 2009
7:35 pm

FALCONHATER-I agree, it does take more than a TE to win in football, and no one knows that better than the Atlanta Falcons. After all, dinn’t we manage to win 11 games without one? As far as QB MRyan is concerned, I have no less of an authority than all of the NFL players and coaches who voted him into last yrs Probowl as an alternate. I’LL PUT THAT UP AGAINST ANY SELFSERVING OPINION OF HIM YOU CAN COME UP WITH. You berate the Falcons for not winning a playoff gm last yr. I’m certain the mighty Patriots would have gladly traded places with us since they didn’t even make the playoffs. You have to crawl before you can walk fella.

BIGEASY-again you use trivial facts to try and support your WISHFULL THINKING. You berate MRyan and the fact we finished 2nd in our division with an 11-5 record. Yet, you make a big issue of the Saints finishing 1st in total OFF, even though it didn’t prevent them from finishing LAST, LAST, LAST in their division with an 8-8 record. A new DC can’t compensate for a lack of DEF talent. As weak as our pass rush was last yr, DE JAbraham managed to register more sacks than the entire Saints starting DEF, WOW!!!!!!!. And you’re dumb enough to think a new DC will somehow completely turn that around.

YOU KNOW WHAT, CLOWNS LIKE YOU, MV2 AND FALCONSHATER ARE SO FAR REMOVED FROM REALITY, YOU’RE PROBABLY DILLUSIONAL ENOUGH TO BELIEVE STARWARS WAS A DOCUMENTARY. IT’S OBVIOUS YOU GUYS ARE UNABLE AND/OR UNWILLING TO DEAL WITH PERTINENET FACTS. BESIDES, THERE ARE FAR TOO MANY INTELLIGENT WELL INTENTIONED INDIVIDUALS POSTING ON THESE BLOGS FOR ME TO WASTE ANY MORE OF MY TIME AND EFFORT ON YOU CLOWNS. THEREFORE, I HAVE NOTHING ELSE TO SAY TO ANY OF YOU HATERS, BECAUSE YOU’VE DEMONSTRATED REPEATEDLY THAT YOU SIMPLY HAVE NOTHING TO SAY.

FALCONSHATER2009

April 17th, 2009
11:02 pm

ok ken to come at you directly the falcons suck ok. u talk reality but u r living in a lala land buddy. so what the falcons went 11-5 last yr. when was the last time the falcons had back to back winning seasons. oh by the way i cant stand the patriots either. micheal turner carried the falcon offense last yr matt ryan was just there enjoying the show. and who brags about have an alternate in the pro bowl. all that means is he is a replacement.

VICK SUPPORTER 2

April 17th, 2009
11:03 pm

I THINK HE’S GOING TO CRY :)

bigeasy830

April 18th, 2009
5:10 am

Ken Strickland, the cold fact is this. You keep holding on to your warm and fuzzy memories of last year. As I stated in my my post on this blog, 2009 is a new year and a new season. They strap on the Rydells in September. By November 1, you will be sitting at home singing along to Barbera Streisand song “Memories of the way the Falcons use to be, in 2008 they were Lucky,That’s the way they were”.HAHAHAHAHA

Fresh for 2009, YOU SUCKERS!!!!!!!!!

Ken Strickland

April 18th, 2009
1:09 pm

Everyone is aware of the fact that IGNORANCE AND STUPIDITY ARE MAJOR FACTORS WHEN DEALING WITH DENIAL. I’M JUST CURIOUS, AND I WANT TO KNOW THE DEPTHS OF THE IGNORANCE AND STUPIDITY IT TAKES TO CONTINUE WITH YOUR RAVINGS.

Answer the following question and I’ll have my answer. WOULD ANY OF YOU RATHER HAVE A TEAM THAT SUCKS, AS ONE OF YOU CLOWNS PUT IT, AND STILL MAKES THE PLAYOFFS, FINISHING 2ND IN THE DIVISION WITH THE NFC’S 3RD BEST RECORD AND TIED FOR THE NFL’S 6TH BEST RECORD, OR HAVE A TEAM THAT LEADS THE NFL IN TOTAL OFF, AS ONE OF YOU CLOWNS PROUDLY PROCLAIMED, AND FINISHES LAST IN THE DIVISION WITH AN 8-8 RECORD? A SIMPLE YES OR NO WILL DO, OTHERWISE, DON’T BOTHER RESPONDING BECAUSE YOUR IGNORANCE AND STUPIDITY WILL BE ASSUMED.

FALCONSHATER2009

April 18th, 2009
1:29 pm

Ken you are the dumbest guy on the planet to call someone ignorant. last season is done with. thats all u talk about is last year and what yall did. we r in 2009 not 2008 so plz wake up before its 2 late. yall have no answer for the Brady-Moss combo man. so what u had one good season. yall not ready to compete wit them yet sorry

VICK SUPPORTER 2

April 18th, 2009
2:09 pm

DOOMED DOOMED DOOMED

WEAK ARMED “OVER RATED QB” — 5 YEARS AND CAN’T WIN THE WEAK ACC.

WEAK LINEBACKERS

WEAK SECONDARY

4TH TOUGHEST SCHEDULE

4-GAMES AFTER OPPONENTS B-Y-E

4-CONSECUTIVE ROAD GAMES WITH PLAYOFF CALIBER TEAMS

DOOMED! DOOMED! DOOMED!

THAT SUSPECT 11-5 RECORD WAS BASED ON 3 FACTORS:

1. WEAK SCHEDULED —— OPPONENTS RECORD WELL BELOW .500

2. 2ND LEADING RUSHER IN NFL (MICHAEL TURNER)….ANOTHER MIKE

3. NO FILM ON THE ROOKIE BUST.

AFTER THE WORD GOT AROUND HOW WEAK HIS ARM WAS, THE LAST 4-GAMES (CRUNCH TIME) WAS EVIDENT BY THE 4-GAMES OF THE FOLLOWING STATS:

3-TOUCH DOWN PASSES

5-INTERCEPTIONS

4-FUMBLES

1-SAFETY

ALL RESULTED IN SUB PAR PASSING RATINGS AND A “1 AND DONE” IN THE PLAYOFFS.

DOOMED! DOOMED! DOOMED!

bigeasy830

April 18th, 2009
2:20 pm

Ken Strickland you keep bringing up 2008 stats, you are living in the past bud, you are the one in denial. It’s 2009 Ken, New Year, New Season. This is your quote Ken “Everyone is aware of the fact that IGNORANCE AND STUPIDITY ARE MAJOR FACTORS WHEN DEALING WITH DENIAL”, seems like you are the one in denial that 2008 is in the past. The Falcons were 11-5 in 2008 and a play-off team, thats great, now if they are truely an elite franchise the schedule will mean nothing and they will make the play-ofs again in 2009 and be a serious contender for the Super Bowl, lets see if they can build from last years success that is what the championship franchises do. I believe that The Ravens will be a contender again. i think Joe Flacco will have a much better season than he did in 2008. I think the games against the tough defenses he faced last year will make him a much better QB. Flacco improved as the season progressed and he won 2 play-off games. Your boy Matt Ryan regressed and was the reasoon the Falcons lost that play-off game. You Boy MattRyan played against a cup cake schedule and his success aginst those bad teams have given you Falcons fans a false sense that he may be great. But, the reality of it all Ken is this, whenever he had a bad game last year you people said that it was because he was a rookie. What excuses will you have this year. Now if your Falcons are really good and last season was not a fluke then they should be able to win at least 11 games this year. I say they will win nor more than 6 but probably go 4-12. That is my prediction for 2009 Ken, 2008 is in the past, I know you are happy about the success of your team from a year ago, but championship caliber franchises like the Steelers and the Pats that all you Falcon fans want to model and compare thisfranchise after live in the here and now.

Fresh for 2009, YOU SUCKERS!!!!!!!

Ken Strickland

April 18th, 2009
8:17 pm

BIGEASY-HATER-ALLOW ME TO BE THE 1ST TO LET YOU TWO ANALS IN ON A NOT SO SECRET SECRET. THE 2009 NFL FOOTBALL SEASON HASN’T BEEN PLAYED YET, SO THERE ARE NO WON/LOSS RECORDS, INDIVIDUAL OR TEAM STATS OR ANY FACTUAL INFORMATION THAT CAN BE DISCUSSED CONCERNING ANY NONE EXISTENT ON FIELD TEAM OR PLAYER ACTIVITY. DOES THAT COMPUTE? It also didn’t escape anyones notice that both of you clowns went out of your way to avoid answering my question. But, both of you did go out of your way to demonstrate the sheer depths of your ignorance, stupidity and denial.

Who else, but someone with serious issues, would admonish someone for quoting football facts, stats and won/loss records from the completed 2008 NFL season instead of NONEXISTENT football facts, stats and won/loss records from a 2009 football season that has yet to be played. SO, IT’S REALLY NOT SURPRISING TO SEE WHY YOU’RE UNABLE TO GRASP THAT SIMPLE REALITY.

Oh, one more thing. You mentioned those tough DEF’s Flacco faced, that improvement he experienced as the season progressed and those 2 playoff gms he won. DIDN’T ALL OF THAT TAKE PLACE IN 2008? LOOKS LIKE I’M NOT THE ONLY ONE QUOTING 2008 FACTS. NOW DO YOU CLOWNS SEE THE HYPOCRISY, STUPIDITY, IGNORANCE AND DENIAL THAT EVERYONE ELSE SEES?

VICK SUPPORTER 2

April 18th, 2009
9:37 pm

HE’S REALLY GOING TO CRY NOW :)

bigeasy830

April 19th, 2009
5:42 pm

Ken Strickland, you have proven that you are truly a “BAMA”. You are too stupid to face facts, but you will eat your words when the season starts. You are as stupid as they get. You will not admit a thing. The only person on this blog that had faith in last years Falcons was Barry, You jumped on the band wagon as the season progressed. I jumped off and will stay off. I will have a great time rubbing it in your face in 2009 “BAMA”. You suck and so do the Falcons. Let’s see who has the last laugh come end of December “BAMA”, lets see what your team record is then. You are too stupid to admit that the Falcons played a candy schedule and the Ravens played against the top defenses of 2008. You are to stupid to realize the difference that makes in the development of a QB and the progression of a team towards future championship runs. You are too stupid to understand the difference between winning 2 play-off games and being a one and done team and the carry over effect that will have on the next season. You are so stupid all you do is drop names of players that someone else has wrote about to make yourself look smart . You “BAMA” are the one with issues. And to answer your question. I would rather have a team that is a serious contender to the Super Bowl year in and year out than a team that makes the play-offs every 2 or three years. I stated earlier “BAMA” that I am not a Saints fan. But I bet you they have a better record than the Falcons at the end of the season. I have posted once before that you Falcon fans are happy with a team that makes the play-offs every two or three years. Your attitude epitimize the attitude of most Falcon fans on these blogs and proves my point. Answer this question “BAMA” how many games do you think the Falcons will win this year. What’s your prediction for 2009. If you truly believe in your team I know you will say at least 11 games, they should match last year’s success, right ? I bet you don’t have the heart to give an honest prediction. You are a coward that is trying to be an internet intellect that swears he is and expert on the NFL and an internet bully. But I don’t scare easy “BAMA” and I see you are clueless about football. You probably never played the game always an armchair QB, huh. Now you can post a lie if you like I don’t know you. But, you know the truth “BAMA”, just answer my question since I answered yours, How many games do you believe the Falcons will win in 2009? Your question still pertains to 2008, you refuse to let that season go, only use 2008 if you think it will prove a point on your team progression for the 2009 season. You can’t can you. My use of 2008 was towards arguing the progression of the Saints and the Ravens 2009 season, you “BAMA”. What, are you too stupid to see that. For kicks, answer this one as well which team had the better season last year. The 8-8 Arizona Cardinals that played in the Super Bowl or the 11-5 Falcons that lost in the first round. Now, I thought I would make it easy for you since you are too stupid to understand the difference between the Dolphins 11-5 that actually won something last year namely the AFC EAST and your NFC South runner-up 11-5 Falcons. Answer those two questions “BAMA”. I see I will have fun with you this year.

Fresh for 2009, YOU SUCKERS!!!!!!!

VICK SUPPORTER 2

April 19th, 2009
7:19 pm

NOW I AM CERTAIN HE IS GOING TO CRY :)

Ken Strickland

April 19th, 2009
8:00 pm

VS2-Why would you expect me to cry based on BIGSLEEZY’S longwinded thesis of ignorance, stupidity and dilusional thought? Is it because you cried after I made you realize how intellectually inadequate you were?

VICK SUPPORTER 2

April 19th, 2009
10:11 pm

“BIG EASY” – GOOD JOB :)

bigeasy830

April 20th, 2009
5:28 am

Ken Strickland you still didn’t answer my 2 questions. I knew you did not have the heart to do so, “BAMA”.

Fresh for 2009, YOU SUCKERS!!!!!!!

FALCONSHATER2009

April 20th, 2009
10:14 am

Ken stop callin people stupid and all this ignorance u showing. YOU A BANDWAGON FAIRWEATHER FAN…… u just to dumb and blind to see it. bigeasy this dude is crying his eyes out right now. hey ken you need a tissue. Your life is like the falcons IT SUCKS……………

Ken Strickland

April 20th, 2009
10:21 am

IT’S REALLY AMUSING TO SEE YOU CLOWNS CONTINUALLY TRYING TO SINK THIS MIGHTLY BATTLESHIP WITH YOUR WEAK AZZ LITTLE SPITBALLS. WHY SHOULD I ATTEMPT TO ANSWER YOUR MEANINGLESS QUESTIONS WHEN YOU’VE REFUSED TO ANSWER MINE. LIKE WHY CRITICIZE ME FOR USING 2008 STATS, WON/LOSS RECORDS AND PLAYER/TEAM ACCOMPLISHMENTS WHEN YOU REPEATEDLY REFERENCE THE 2008 ACCOMPLIMENTS OF QB FLACCO, THE DOLPHINS, THE SAINTS, THE FALCONS ETC? DON’T GET ME WRONG, I KNOW WHY YOU REFUSE TO ANSWER. IT WOULD FORCE YOU TO DEAL WITH THE REAL SENSE THAT YOU ARE ACTUALLY INTELLECTUALLY BANKRUPT AND YOUR FOOTBALL IQ IS MINISCULE.

FALCONSHATER2009

April 20th, 2009
3:05 pm

OK KEN WHAT IS YOUR QUESTION U WANT ANSWERED SO BADLY THAT U GOTTA FEEL IMPORTANT.OH AND U DA CLOWN CUZ U ROOT FOR A TEAM THAT JUST SUCKS

VICK SUPPORTER 2

April 20th, 2009
4:56 pm

“FALCONHATER & BIG EASY” – TELL ME WHO THIS SOUNDS LIKE.

LAST SEASON, PRIOR TO THE FALCONS PLAYING TAMPA THE FIRST GAME, THIS ONE “SO CALLED FOOTBALL BRAIN” STATED ALL THESE STATS HE MADE UP ABOUT HOW THE FALCONS WOULD DOMINATE THE GAME.

WELL WE ALL REMEMBER HOW TAMPA WHIPPED THE GIRLY BIRDS 24-6 OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, AND RYAN “LEAF” HAD AN IMPRESSIVE 17 QB RATING. 17 QB RATING – CAN YOU ACTUALLY GET A LOWER RATING? PATHETIC.

ANYWAY, AFTER MAKING THAT IDIOTIC PREDICTION, HE DIDN’T SHOW HIS FACE FOR NEARLY 3-WEEK AFTER THAT. WHO THAT WAS?

YOU GUESSED IT – “THE GREAT B.A.M.A.” :)

VICK SUPPORTER 2

April 20th, 2009
5:00 pm

IT’S OFFICIAL – HE IS CRYING :)

mars

April 20th, 2009
5:07 pm

Who needs strip clubs? The true boobs in Atlanta are on this blog.

bigeasy830

April 21st, 2009
6:27 am

If there were no strip clubs Mars, you would have never met your wife and your mom would be unemployed.

FALCONSHATER2009

April 21st, 2009
4:01 pm

VICKSUPPORTER 2 U CRAZY AS HELL MAN. BAMA SOUNDS LIKE A BROKEN RECORD.

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