
The Falcons are looking for defensive players who are fierce like Pam Grier's cousin, the great Rosey Grier. He played for the Rams' Fearsome Foursome line with Deacon Jones, Merlin Olsen and Lamar Lundy in the 1960s. Pam, this week's honorary blog guest, was pretty tough in the 1974 movie Foxy Brown.
Just 22 days to the draft and two more mock drafts before the really big Mock Draft, the one that counts. The one that runs in the paper on Saturday morning of April 25th.
But for now, we’ll do the best we can as situations around the league are fluid.
However, University of Southern California linebacker Rey Maualuga visit with the Falcons on Saturday means one of two things.

Virginia linebacker Clint Sintim could add some pop to the Falcons defense. (AP Photo/Andrew Shurtleff).
He’s slipping in the draft and is going to be around when they pick 24th overall. Or the Falcons plan on trading up to get in the mix for the All-American attack missile from USC.
But he’s a middle linebacker and doesn’t fit the “needs-based” drafting philosophy. They selected Curtis Lofton last season. This visit falls into the “due diligence” department.
Northern Illinois defensive end Larry English also is set to visit the Falcons. Oregon safety Patrick Chung has a private workout set up, but is not coming in for a visit. Also, Western Michigan safety Louis Delmas is set to visit.
The Falcons are in the process of revamping their linebacking corps after starters Michael Boley (New York Giants) and Keith Brooking (Dallas) signed with new teams during free agency. They signed linebacker Michael Peterson in free agency.
Falcons coach Mike Smith told the AJC at the NFL owners’ meeting in Dana Point, Calif. that he was impressed with all four of the USC linebackers in this draft.
Denver’s trade of Jay Cutler helped to shake up this week’s mock draft.
Before their issues with Cutler, the Broncos were set to draft defense. But with the 12th and 18th picks of the first round, look for them to move up to get in position to possibly land USC quarterback Mark Sanchez. There are only three first round quarterbacks in Georgia’s Matthew Stafford, Sanchez and Kansas State’s Josh Freeman.
With the Jets needing to address their QB situation, look for them to take Freeman at 17.
They Falcons are going defense, but with their first pick elect to move away from Clay Matthews Jr., last week’s pick. He’s a one-year wonder and is too close to Kroy Biermann in skill set. They are looking for thumpers to control the edge against the run and make impact plays.
English remains interesting, but his history of serious injuries – high right ankle sprain, sprained right shoulder, torn right ACL, torn pectoral and a broken right hand — in college are a turn off.
Look for the Falcons to select Virginia’s Clint Sintim. He was very productive and has very long arms at 33 ½ inches. He has played in a pro styled defense.
Maualuga (11 to 20), Matthews (24 to 25), Florida State’s Everette Brown (5 to 11), Oklahoma’s Duke Robinson (30 to out of first round) all dropped this week.
Some of the climbers include Texas’ Brian Orakpo (9 to 5), LSU’s Tyson Johnson (12 to 9), Freeman (20 to 17) and Florida’s Percy Harvin (17 to 15).
LEDBETTER’S MOCK DRAFT
1. Detroit Lions: Jason Smith, OT, Baylor. Lions will try to negotiate a deal before the draft. They pass on Stafford as they try to anchor their O-line.
2. St. Louis Rams: Aaron Curry, LB, Wake Forest. The defensive minded Steve Spagnuolo gets someone to anchor the unit.
3. Kansas City Chiefs: Eugene Monroe, OT, Virginia.
4. Seattle Seahawks: Matthew Stafford, QB, Georgia. Can learn the rope behind Matt Hasselbeck for a year or two.
5. Cleveland Browns: Brian Orakpo, DE/OLB, Texas.
6. Cincinnati Bengals: Michael Crabtree, WR, Texas Tech. Bengals get a receiver to run alongside Ocho Cinco.
7. Oakland Raiders: B.J. Raji, DT, Boston College. Raiders don’t pay much attention to the recent controversy surrounding Raji.
8. Jacksonville Jaguars: Mark Sanchez, QB, Southern California.
9. Green Bay Packers: Tyson Jackson, DE, LSU. Packers have to improve their defensive line.
10. San Francisco 49ers: Andre Smith, T, Alabama. With Sanchez off the board, Singletary decides his motivational skills can help Smith.
11. Buffalo Bills: Everette Brown, DE, Florida State.
12. Denver Broncos: Malcolm Jenkins, CB, Ohio State.
13. Washington Redskins: Michael Oher, OT, Ole Miss.
14. New Orleans Saints: Jeremy Maclin, WR, Missouri. Sean Payton adds another weapon for quarterback Drew Brews.
15. Houston Texans: Percy Harvin, WR. Florida. Pro Bowler Andre Johnson needs some help.
16. San Diego Chargers: Brian Cushing, LB, USC.
17. New York Jets: Josh Freeman, QB, Kansas State. Jets get their Brett Favre replacement.
18. Denver Broncos: Aaron Maybin, DE, Penn State.
19. Tampa Bay Buccaneers: Vontae Davis, CB, Illinois. A physical corner who’d fit nicely in their Cover-2.
20. Detroit Lions (from Dallas): Rey Maualuga, LB, LB, Southern California. He slips, but doesn’t get past the Lions.
21. Philadelphia Eagles: Eben Britton, OT, Arizona. They have to find a replacement for Tra Thomas.
22. Minnesota Vikings: Peria Jerry, DT, Mississippi.
23. New England Patriots: James Laurinaitis, LB, Ohio State. Son of former wrestler “The Animal.”
24. Atlanta Falcons: Clint Sintim, LB, Virginia
25. Miami Dolphins: Clay Matthews Jr., LB, USC.
26. Baltimore Ravens: Darius Heyward-Bey, WR, Maryland.
27. Indianapolis Colts: Knowshon Moreno, RB, Georgia.
28. Philadelphia Eagles (from Carolina): Chris Wells, RB, Ohio State. The Eagles get someone to share the load with Brian Westbrook.
29. New York Giants: Hakeem Nicks, WR, North Carolina.
30. Tennessee Titans: Brandon Pettigrew, TE, Oklahoma State. His 40 times are scaring a lot of folks.
31. Arizona Cardinals: Donald Brown, RB, Connecticut.
32. Pittsburgh Steelers: Larry English, DE/OLB, Northern Illinois.

The Fearsome Foursome! Merlin Olsen (74), Deacon Jones (75), Lamar Lundy (85) and Rosey Grier (76), sitting down with his guitar. Falcons coach Mike Smith would love to turn his defensive line into the New Millennium's Fearsome Foursome.
FIRST ROUND FRINGE
Duke Robinson, OG, Oklahoma
Michael Johnson, DE, Georgia Tech
Evander Hood, DT, Missouri
Louis Delmas, FS, Western Michigan
Kenny Britt, WR, Rutgers
Alphonso Smith, CB, Wake Forest
The other domino from the Cutler trade has to fall. That’s their climb up to get Mark Sanchez. They need to get in front of Jacksonville at No. 8. Like Sintim in the red and black? Rather have English? Rather have Matthews Jr.? Like Pam Grier, stopping by as our honorary guest?
260 comments Add your comment
innocent bystander
April 3rd, 2009
5:23 am
I wonder if Pam Grier also missed that you have JL the OSU linebacker picked twice (16 & 23).
marko
April 3rd, 2009
6:26 am
Holy Puzzle box Batman! Has anyone seen Columbo? We got ourselves one hellova mystery here. Why Maualuga? Isn’t he supposed to be gone at least ten picks before us. Didn’t we draft Lofton last year? Orlando, not trying to be picky but you have Laurinaitis going twice in the first round. Also some time in the next three weeks the Lions will sign Stafford If no other reason than to sell tickets. Go 0 and 16 then and draft a tackle. Besides, with Culpepper baby sitting him for a year, he’ll turn out to be a great pick.
Greg
April 3rd, 2009
6:43 am
I don’t think the Birds are going to go LB with the first pick, but let’s assume they are. Still, I’m not sure you’re on target with Sintim. You may know about some weighty intangibles, but did you watch the Combine? Matthews beat him handily in every category. If we’re talking about an edge LB here, he’s gonna have to go into coverage. Sintim was s-l-o-w (4.82 40-dash), while Matthews did 4.67. Sintim did not do the press. Why? Matthews jumped higher, jumped longer, and was much more impressive in the 3-cone drill. Matthews did exceptionally well in the 20-yard shuttle, which would seem to be a key test for outside LB. Sintim skipped that test, too. Why? On paper, I don’t see picking Sintim ahead of Matthews. You say Matthews is a 1-year wonder. Maybe we should focus on the word “wonder.”
rob
April 3rd, 2009
7:13 am
I’m getting headaches from looking at all the mock drafts..I think I’ll shut it down until the real deal comes in 22 days..
JJ
April 3rd, 2009
7:16 am
marko: GSU and the foxy browns? na
D_LED: nice pics(pictures, not pics) but I still say DT-NT!
Lot of talk og K.Orten this morning, the consensus is he’s just an average qb. Well, Chris Houston made him look like a probowler last yr. I’m praying that a beefed up front seven will help our dbs.
Agree with my faithful blogers, too many TE to take Pettigrew at 24, I like Shawn Nelson. However, we cant pass up on Chung if he’s there at 55, highly ublikely.
devildawg
April 3rd, 2009
7:35 am
Do you call it a Mock Draft because every time you make one, everyone mocks it? Because you should be for all the boneheadedness you’ve shown us. You have a player listed twice. You have Maualuga and Cushing going after Laurinitis? Really, because all the draft experts would disagree heavily with you. Heyward-Bey going before Hakeem Nicks? OK, you do that, but don’t say we didn’t warn you. Dude, is this like a hobby for you or something, or do they actually pay you to do this, like for your job? AJC, get a clue, you need some better sports guys. You guys are a joke.
ndadome
April 3rd, 2009
8:04 am
Here’s an interesting tidbit. . .it is being reported that both Clay Matthews & Brian Cushing tested positive for steroids at the combine. Not confirmed yet, but neither is the report that Raji & Harvin both tested positive for weed.
I’m not so sure Denver will try to move up to take a first round qb. .they need too much defensive help, don’t you think?
JJ
April 3rd, 2009
8:08 am
devildawg: have you read some of the other sports writers from the ajc? Do you want terrence moore? D-Led is the best we’ve had here in a long time! Yes, this mock draft is not his best but chill or go to the dawg blog. You dont diss our man!!!
gdg73
April 3rd, 2009
8:14 am
I don’t see the Falcons picking a 3-4 OLB, unless they plan on moving him to DE. How are his coverage skills as a LB anyway. Also, if Rey M. is there at #24, I say take him and move Lofton to the outside. I’m almost positive he played there in college. Stay away Mike Mamula, I mean Clay Matthews Jr. and Brian Cushing. Like you said, we need thumpers, not run and chase guys playing LB. Rey M. is a first class thumper.
IE'66
April 3rd, 2009
8:17 am
I don’t need this blognet to tell me about some new movies coming out. Save that for the entertainment pages. This is the sports pages. If I wanted to see a movie about an attractive woman in undergarments I’d go to my local video store.
As to the foot-ball, I enjoy your mock drafts. Always have. I’m a fan of mocking the draft. But I support the draft as well.
This time the Falcons do something to surprise us all. If the draft plays out just as you have it with all selections as they are up until 24, the Falcons will select Knowshon Moreno. I know, I know. What does the old man know that I don’t? Well, I’ll tell you. It’s a smoke screen. Dimitroff said a few weeks ago that Moreno was going to be good but we didn’t need him. It’s a smoking screen. We pick him and go defense the rest of the way. If I’m wrong, I’ll post an apology.
coastaljim
April 3rd, 2009
8:29 am
He might be better than some of the AJC writers, but he still needs a proofreader. He said that Sintim played in a pro style OFFENSE. Put down the bong!!
Poco Springfield
April 3rd, 2009
9:04 am
You have Laurinaitis getting drafted twice in the first. Sintim is more of a 3-4 linebacker. I don’t see how he’d fit into the Falcons’ system unless they’re planning on changing from a 4-3.
richbrave
April 3rd, 2009
9:09 am
I see you like CLINT also. Catch my little comment about your mock draft selection for the REDSKINS at #13. How’s that drug test for CUSHING going? Trade down for SINTIM if possible.
Marcus
April 3rd, 2009
9:42 am
boy..between you and Sekou…any excuse to get glamour shots of past and present starlets showing off their wares. What say Mrs. Lebdbetter?!?!? LOL. Whose next? Janet? Victoria Dillard? Halle? Debbie Morgan?Alicia Keys? Beverley Johnson? (still smokin at daggone near 60). Tyra Banks? pick one and do the daggone thang.
Dont know much about Sintim, but heard the name come up a lot. Drafting LB, does that imply we have enough faith in the young talent in the secondary NOT to snag a 1st round safety?
Which area is more talent-dearth and/or depth-starved?
BILLY JACK
April 3rd, 2009
9:43 am
This mock draft is the worst one I have seen-If Cushing is there no way the falcons pass on him-I dont think he will be there-look for Clay Matthews Jr to be the pick DE OLB 6-5 250 great pass rusher good against the run very fast off the edge and great bloodlines father Clay uncle Bruce played over 35 yrs combined in the NFL.
BRING IT BACK!!
April 3rd, 2009
10:14 am
Our 1st round pick should be a running back. The Falcons lack of production from that position has been dropping rapidly ever since Vick was thrown under the bus by the front office. Come on TD and use that so called expert draft mind of yours and bring the rushing attack back to Atlanta!
clthurman
April 3rd, 2009
10:21 am
Matthews is the pick at 24 unless we move up or down or a gift comes wrapped from someone falling. Solid player and the apple does not fall far from the tree…good bloodline.
gdg73
April 3rd, 2009
10:33 am
Good bloodlines??? Are we talking about FOOTBALL PLAYERS and the NFL Draft or the Westminster Dog Show? TD doesn’t care anything about bloodlines or work out warriors. He wants to see how players performed on the field. For all of you campaigning for Cushing and Matthews, don’t come crying in the November and December when either is being dragged down the field by Jonathan Stewart, A.P., or Marion Barber.
DawgFan0311
April 3rd, 2009
10:41 am
Clint Sintim? What the heck is that? Who has ever heard of Clint Stintim…why not wait until the 2nd round to draft that guy…? We need someone with proven credentials not just big arms and flashy speed.
Brian Hunt
April 3rd, 2009
10:43 am
It’s a Mock Draft people. Everyone breathe and relax. All of you wanna be experts need to step away from your key boards and stop insulting Mr. Ledbetter. I’m sure that it’s possible to disagree without the scorn. He has good taste in movie starlets. I’m hoping Raji falls based on a little controversy or we can grab Delmas.
Wes
April 3rd, 2009
10:55 am
Who is playing DT this year??? If we aren’t going to draft one in the first round, don’t they have to sign someone in free agency? I don’t understand how they are going to stop the run with a worse d-line than the one last year, which couldn’t stop the run.
Ken Strickland
April 3rd, 2009
10:55 am
CMathews is a pure LB while Sintim is more of a hybrid and can effectively rush the passer from the DE position, like LEnglish or Maybin. If we go LB with our 1st pick, it appears this is the way we’re leaning. If we don’t go DT in the 1st 2 rds, it means Smitty’s satisfied with the ability and progress of TLewis and like the idea of staring he and Babineaux.
I was surprised to find most DT rankings have Baker ranked higher than Hill. Maybe it’s because he’s more versatile, since he played DE in college, but has the size and strength to play DT. If you take away the incident that necessitated his transfer to Hampton, who knows, he might rank even higher.
Also, if we’re satisfied with the projected starters we have at DT, don’t be surprised if we draft a CB @ #24. A quality hybrid LB/DE type that’s capable of giving us exactly what we want is a lot easier to find in the 2nd or 3rd rds than a quality CB capable of starting immediately.
Stirg d'Nahsif
April 3rd, 2009
11:06 am
Not too sure about this one, D.O. I like Sintim; I like him a lot but I think he sill still be there in the second round (not sure if he’d last until 55, though). Again, here we are in a situation where we have disregarded what we already have. We have needs at multiple positions but when you evaluate our current roster, you will note that some of those voids aren’t as sensible to fill before others. When you consider the signing of M. Peterson and the healthy return of Robert James, you will note a lower priority to fill that position as opposed to defensive tackle, tight end or strong safety. Again, I’m not trying to knock Clint Sintim (I continue to put him on my draft boards). I just don’t think he’s a 24, in this draft. He may be a top ten in the next draft or may have been a top ten in a draft that is stingy with linebackers. This draft, however, I’d rather take my chances with a second round linebacker (or later) than pulling the trigger, on uncertainty, in the first round. There are just too many question marks with this class of linebackers: Can he play the 4-3 after playing 3-4 in college? Can he stay healthy? Can he race with the tight end in pass coverage? Can he stop the run? Is he a three down linebacker? There are just too many questions involving this year’s draft of linebackers. It’s too questionable to consider any of them for round one.
gdg73
April 3rd, 2009
11:14 am
You better believe TD and Smith are going DT at #24. Don’t believe all the hype. Two things you got to do to win in this league: 1) Run the ball on offense and 2) Stop the run on defense. We fixed #1 last year. This year we address the defense’s inability to accomplish #2 and it all starts up front. Right now, we have ONE healthy, legitimate DT we can count on right now and that is Babineaux. A good Dline would also enhance our pedestrian secondary.
esaun
April 3rd, 2009
11:17 am
no way the falcons pick pick Sintim over Mathews or Cushing since both fit mold of what falcons look for in linebackers
gdg73
April 3rd, 2009
11:19 am
esaun, What is the “Falcon Linebacker Mold”?
BRING IT BACK!!
April 3rd, 2009
11:19 am
Brian Hunt you are 100% correct.
who?
April 3rd, 2009
11:21 am
vick
???
April 3rd, 2009
11:23 am
Mention you know who & you get “waiting moderation”. WHY?
clthurman
April 3rd, 2009
11:26 am
Bloodline was just meant to imply a good football background…every Matthews player has been a stud. As for the workout wonder tag…so the guy works out…what’s the point? Should he sit around and not better his body. If you don’t like Matthews I can understand that…he is a pure LB and hey I like them. The hybrid DE/LB is always hit or miss…you can hit a home run or you have someone exposed against the run. Guys seeing that we were not good at much with the defense last year and the holes we have…this is fun guessing where we will go and what TD may be up to. Give him a few years yet before we deign him a genius. I am optimistic based on his short history but hey guessing is a blast. Relax guys…who would a thought Cutler going to the notoriously shy Bears. Can’t wait. I don’t believe a CB is in this draft worth the 24th pick and certainly not the money that goes with it.
Nique
April 3rd, 2009
11:28 am
we are bringing in Rey Maualuga for a visit, who is a better player than either Cushing or Matthews, as well as C. Simtums! So if he falls to 24 & they fill that either him of Lofton can play SAM backer, which they obviously fell bc they are bringing him in for a private work out. Remember that they said that one of the reasons why they took Lofton last year was bc he could play both MLB & SAM backer, you go from having a subpar LB-ing core going into the offseason, to having a stud group & one to grow with for years in Nicolas, Maualuga, & Lofton. With Peterson, Wire, James, & Gilbert as reserves! Now that’s a group!
Deangelo Falls
April 3rd, 2009
11:31 am
Seriously you’re using “long arms” as something we look for in LB’s? OL or DL maybe but not LB. Sintim will not be the pick…guaranteed. This pick has Delmas written all over it (like when the Pats took Meriweather).
Tibo
April 3rd, 2009
11:45 am
James Laurinatis picked 2 times??? wowww! lol
Why did you see Simtin before Cushing???? Cushing is more athletic to me
I MUS.WRITE
April 3rd, 2009
11:45 am
Bow Tie- Whats Happnin, I would’nt pick Sintim at 24 when Hood and Cushing are still available…….. Pam Grier -good job my man that woman gets sexxier with age
D3
April 3rd, 2009
12:00 pm
What’s up guys? Just a little tid-bit here on my lunch break and I’ll get back on it later. Nothing like a new post about the draft. As my old high school coach used to say “Gotta Love It!”
DOL – I like Sintim’s measurables, but his stock has been dropping a little bit since his average-to-poor showing at the combine and pro day. He is somewhat more of a safer pick than Matthews, due to his experience, but does he have as much upside? Personally, if all the LBs are gone (Maybin,English,Cushing,Matthews), I’d rather go Hood in the first, even though its pretty much a crap shoot picking a DT late in the first. For every Mike Patterson and Luis Castillo, there’s just as many or more Marcus Tubbs, Justin Harrells, and John McCargos.
Also, if Cushing is there, no way we pass on him. He has been a stud on the college level at a big-time program for years. Just as well, Rey Mauluga is a d@mn torpedo missile that you would have to consider taking and adjusting Lofton as needed, or the other way around. Out of the three, Mauluga is a the beast of the bunch. Although, I’d hate to move Lofton to OLB after he had such an awesome rookie year at MLB, knowing he’s only going to get better.
I know Matthews is a risk, but what I love about him the most is his work ethic. Matty Ice, of course, had the skills to become Rookie of the Year, but his work ethic is what led him to come in, start, learn from his mistakes, and play lights out as a Rook.
Stirg d'Nahsif
April 3rd, 2009
12:10 pm
You know what? Nique delivered a very valid point (I never considered). All this time, I’ve been trying to match-up an OLB in the draft to play SAM in our “scheme”. Lofton is a gifted linebacker. He can play in the middle and the outside. When you consider moving Lofton to the SAM position (it may suit him better), it opens the options to draft some of the good talent that we have, otherwise, been overlooking, i.e., Rey M’uga or Frantz Joseph. It will also allow us to use the first pick on a more glaring need (DT, Safety, TE) and draft linebacker in the next round(s).
Good job, Nique; Good Call!
dacha
April 3rd, 2009
12:33 pm
Yo D-Led,
I don’t really like the Sintim pick…just doesn’t seem like a good fit. BTW, OSU linebacker must be a beast if he can play for two teams. Also, next time you decide to draft a guy twice try to do some research and spell his name right: LAURENAITIS
D. Orlando Ledbetter
April 3rd, 2009
12:37 pm
INNOCENT BYSTANDER: Must have been distracted with the Original Foxy Brown visiting us and all. Getting ready to go in an correct the JL “the Animal” Jr. going to two squads. He’s good, but not that good!!!
Reno 911
April 3rd, 2009
12:47 pm
Guys, guys, settle down now. You know what happens when you “clown” the wrong person on this blog, don’t you? I’m not sure why everyone is so up in arms, though I agree that Laurinitas shouldn’t be picked twice. If anyone in this draft deserves to go multiple times, it’s Aaron Curry. I have him going to Kasas City at #3, Cleveland at #5, and then in his third and fourth picks, falling all the way down to New England at #23 and the Falcons at #24. As long as the teams don’t play in the same division, why not play for more than one? Just a quick jersey change and a charter jet to get from one game to the other, right? Think outside of the box, people.
Stirg d'Nahsif
April 3rd, 2009
12:49 pm
Whew! Nique, I can’t thank enough for reconditioning my thought process in this draft. It is really refreshing to consider another approach to pick 24. This draft is so complex; yet, I’ve never been more excited an upcoming season.
The option to move Curtis Lofton in either linebacker position, leaves room to draft (in any round) a very good and versatile LB in this year’s class, which is loaded with talented linebackers. I wanted to review Lofton’s scouting report from last year’s draft and compare that with the reports (on linebackers) in this year’s draft. Ultimately, I was looking for descriptions that would motivate me to draft Lofton (last year) to play outside linebacker.
Curtis Lofton Scouting Report (provided by WarRoomReport.com):
Oklahoma MLB
Height: 6-0, Weight: 235, Draft Grade: 91
Strengths: Extremely productive junior season at Oklahoma with 157 tackles…good football instincts…solid wrap up tackler…smooth player in coverage, displayed ability to make plays in zone coverage…strong player for size with good base…big hitter…
Weaknesses: Does not have ideal height…lacking top end speed…unlikely to be able to handle man coverage against speedy players…not a factor rushing the passer…may struggle in the phone booth against stronger players…
Overall: Lofton emerged in his first season as a starter for the Sooners, leading the team with 157 tackles, including 10 for a loss. He surprised some by entering the draft early, but another season at Oklahoma was unlikely to make up for his two main flaws – short stature and limited speed. Lofton can be a productive player given the right scheme, a 4-3 defense that would limit his pass coverage responsibility.
Now, y’all draw your own conclusion. Can we draft, this year, for a middle linebacker and move Curtis Lofton to the outside? Do we keep Lofton inside and draft for OLB? Either way, the pool of linebackers is still deep with talent.
Joey Porter
April 3rd, 2009
12:54 pm
Cushing and Matthews are on peds. Can you say Cheaters? Once they are clean they will be safetys.
PMC
April 3rd, 2009
12:55 pm
Clay Matthews on PED’s…. wow, that’s not shocking in the least. Mandarich alert!
D. Orlando Ledbetter
April 3rd, 2009
1:05 pm
Good job here today folks. I’m fine with banter: Here are some responses for you.
DEVILDAWG: Good joke. This is an EARLY mock. Will dust off my final mocks over the last three drafts and the are pretty strong. Averaging 26 of the correct 32 picks. This is for discussion purposes to help us get our fix for the next 22 days. Stick with me here!
COASTALJIM: Will correct it. Caught one of those late flows and missed that minor offense/defense thing.
MARCUS: Halle is from Bedford High outside of Cleveland and across the street from the great St. Peter Chanel High. Maybe she’ll drop by to turn in the card for the Cleveland Browns, who have the No. 5 pick.
BILLY JACK: Can you still whup some A! I need to go watch some of your old flicks. Awesome stuff. Cushing, Matthews, Raij and Harvin all have combine RED flags.
???: Yep!! (I get to approve and sanction the madness. It’s called a moderator!
D3: We have strong ties to St. Louis and the Missouri program. The Ziggster scares me. Production was too low.
DaculaJones
April 3rd, 2009
1:23 pm
What factor does Mr. Vick have on the draft, if he is allowed to play this coming season. Or would the commish even make that decision before draft day?
D. Orlando Ledbetter
April 3rd, 2009
1:23 pm
Reno911: At 4 a.m., a guy could easily slip into the mock twice. Hey, it happens. He’s out now. Just one time for Animal Jr. But this concept of multiple teams. . . .. Hmmmmmmm. You might be onto something. I can be like high school basketball in Ohio where you can play two quarters with the JV and two with the varsity.
???
April 3rd, 2009
1:24 pm
D.Orlando Ledbetter. Thanks! Just wondering. Won’t mention Vi..I mean you know who. LOL!
TheManMike
April 3rd, 2009
1:25 pm
Oh Lord people – Pam Grier? Come on! Where have you all been the last 5 to 6 years???
Hooters girls are the best there is. Go to their sites and look, stare, admire – at the youth, not the former youth. come on DLED – Pick us some HOT women, not just former hot women…..seriously.
I dont see a LB being our first pick unless its big Rey Mal. Like someone mentioned above, Lofton can play SAM, so there it is. Have you seen the tapes on this dude – hes a mini Troy Polumalu! Exactly what TD said he wanted, am i right or am i right?
TheManMike
April 3rd, 2009
1:31 pm
http://lh4.ggpht.com/Dohnutman2/R7OYDnJuteI/AAAAAAAALNw/lMfRsbAKnm0/s800/HDG_2k8-4.jpg
I rest my case!
Reno 911
April 3rd, 2009
1:33 pm
What’s everyone’s reaction to the reports that Clay Matthews and Brian Cushing both tested positive for steroids at the Combine? I can’t find any iron-clad reporting of it on the ‘net, but I must admit that it doesn’t surprise me much. I always thought that Cushing had too much of a misshapen HGH-like jaw/forehead thing going on, and as much as I love the Clay Jr story, going from 160-something pound walk-on safety to 240-something pound first- rounder OLB, it does seem a little improbable that he made that happen on protein shakes and peanut butter sandwiches. Sigh. I really liked both of those guys.
But the question now is, if either or both of them DID test positive for ‘roids at the combine, what happens to their respective draft positions? How much faith do you have in either of their physical abilities, assuming that if they did test positive, both have probably been juicing for a while (at least when I went through it, NCAA substance testing was a joke, especially compared to the NFL’s program). Knowing that any player testing positive once will be under the microscope thereafter, do you trust that Matthews or Cushing won’t drop 20 pounds and get slower if his all-natural (like Tony Mandarich did back in the 90’s)? Do both of them all of the sudden become second-rounders? Luis Castillo, DT out of Northwestern, tested hot for ‘roids a few years back, was still drafted by the Chargers, and has gone on to play pretty well for them. If I recall, Castillo sent out a mea culpa letter to all of the teams in the league after his positive result, saying that he was desperate in trying to recover from an injury, and made a mistake. But would Cushing and Matthews have the same claim? Neither had been recovering from anything, unless it was recovering from a lack of “first-round” natural ability. All highly speculative, of course, and I hope that neither one of those guys did test positive…it’s just interesting to think about the ramifications on the draft if the reports are true. Thoughts?
cutter
April 3rd, 2009
1:49 pm
Everybody is throwing up smoke screens this close to the draft, just because a guy has a private workout with the team means no more for his chances of being drafted than anyone else brought in for workouts. You don’t screw around with a 2nd yr guy by moving him around from MLB to OLB. Lofton was drafted in the 2nd round to be a MLB and that is where he stays. I can appreciate some of the scenarios given and the arguments used to support those scenarios but is one guy proven to be that much better than the other? Maybe more hyped but not proven.
Nique
April 3rd, 2009
1:55 pm
Thx, Stirg d’Nahsif & I appreciate the scouting report from last year. Ray has the chance to be the best MLB taken since Patrick Willis & will give us the playmaking LB that we’ve lacked & desired under this new Defensive scheme. It would also give us 2 really stout run stopping LB’s, which would definitely come into play if we are even considering the 2 smaller DT philosophy that you & Bradley were talking about the other day, but even if that’s not the case, it will definitely play dividends bc one of the things that Smith has always said since he’s gotten here, is that he wants to make Offences one definitional & that his Defenses are always most effective when that can happen & this would go along way towards helping that manifest itself.
TheManMike
April 3rd, 2009
1:55 pm
Cutter-
Maybe YOU dont screw around with a 2nd year player, but we’re not asking YOU to. Are you saying that simply because you think he was drafted “Just” to be a MLB that he cannot be successful moving outside? Do you have the facts to back up that claim? If so, then you sold me. If not, then i guess this merry-go-round continnues until Draft day.
Good insights though. But imo, guys get moved and shifted around – I recall TD and Smitty wanting versatility – this would mean they can succeed with making a move if it were to better the team.
Thoughts?
cutter
April 3rd, 2009
1:57 pm
Cushing and Matthews are taking steroids and Mauluga is clean????? Riiight. D.O.L.- Again with 2nd round prospects mocked in the 1st round. What’s up with that?
TheManMike
April 3rd, 2009
1:59 pm
Let guy is lightning fast – whos to say he wouldnt excel at the FS position? or SS? You have to think Hybrid, you have to think forward and progressively. If a guy is comfortable in a system, and has awesome talent, he should be able to excel anywhere around his traditional playing position…hands down.
TheManMike
April 3rd, 2009
1:59 pm
That*
TheManMike
April 3rd, 2009
2:00 pm
I dont think its been 100% confirmed yet that they were taking actual steroids. Slow down man.
cutter
April 3rd, 2009
2:11 pm
It’s called the understood you. Versatility is a plus, a bonus if you will, if YOU read the scouting reports and if YOU watched filmed of Lofton in college You would understand why he is not an OLB. He is undersized and has trouble playing in coverage, at the combine he posted a 4.79 forty a 24.5 vertical 7.69 3-cone drill. Maybe you have some insight that I don’t but I tend to watch film on guys to see what they can do. Every position on the field does not reguire versatility to be successful. I realize you want to be right but I just don’t think you are in this case…sorry.
Reno 911
April 3rd, 2009
2:16 pm
DOL: though I know they’re playing things close to the vest, any feeling on the Falcons’ interest in Connor Barwin or Lawrence Sidbury? Barwin is a workout freak, at least, though I can’t say I’ve ever seen him play. I know he’s better suited to be a 3-4 rush OLB, but I think the guy has huge upside potential. If Smitty and TD want versatility, how about this guy? He worked out as a DL at the combine, and was pretty much the quickest/most athletic of the bunch. If he’d worked out as a LB, he’d be near the top of that group, too. He started out playing TE at Cincinatti before moving over to D, and I’d argue that if he’d stayed there, he’d be one of the top 5 TE’s in this class. So, here’s a guy who is definitely athletic enough to play Sam OLB, can definitely walk down and rush off the edge if the Falcons’ run 10+ snaps out of the 3-4, and might be one of the better red-zone TE’s in the draft. The Pats did it with Mike Vrabel with success, so why not us? Just a thought. Maybe Barwin isn’t worth #24, but he’ll be gone by the middle of the second. He’s just too good of an athlete. Any chance the Falcons trade their 1st down into the early 2nd in return for another 3rd rounder? Just a thought. Not sure if he fits into the Falcons’ needs, but my bet is that Barwin will be a versatile and valuable player for someone out there.
Nookah
April 3rd, 2009
2:17 pm
My question is simply this. If we are interested in RMaualuga, what would we have to give up to move to about 10 – 15 slot, which is about where he is projected to go?
Thoughts?
TheManMike
April 3rd, 2009
2:17 pm
HEHe – its nota matter of being right there kitten. Its a matter of not NOT drafting a guy simply because we think we have our MLB of the future. Rey Mal is fast, lightning fast – watch the film.
Besides – arent we all just throwing around ideas? None of our thoughts or opinions matter much. You take things that you cannot control too personally. Maybe some other issues there to deal with.
Either way – I agree with TD and Smitty. Having a Troy Polomalu type player would kick arse. I was saying Rey as being more of a FS or SS – not lofton. Dont let your emotions get the better of you Cutler, ahem – i mean Cutter…..
cutter
April 3rd, 2009
2:17 pm
Themikeman-So now Lofton can play FS also or are you referring to Mauluga? And which one is lightning fast again?
Nookah
April 3rd, 2009
2:21 pm
RENO 911, you preempted some thoughts that I had. Barwin is also being looked at by NE. He could be a good “value” pick.
GO FALCONS!!!
Nuff respect everytime!!!
TheManMike
April 3rd, 2009
2:21 pm
RENO911 –
NOW your thinking outside the box. I love it. A new-age Mike Vrabel would be sweet! Im just trying to bring back to light the fact that TD and SMitty said specifically what they like – and thats Hybrid/Versitile guys who can play more than one position. How hard of a concept is that the get?
Lets start to analyze those fellows….Reno911 seems to be on to something…..new direction for this discussion.
cutter
April 3rd, 2009
2:22 pm
I’m sorry I thought I was conversing with an adult if you want to be condescending I think that is done better in person.
WR
April 3rd, 2009
2:23 pm
DLed, love the picture of Foxy, the original Beyonce. Back to football, I still believe Nt or Dt are the best option, whether thats in the first round or trading out and picking up more picks. Aaron Curry seems like the only linebacker in the first round that could come in and help right away and he won’t be available. I say we stock up on Dt’s and lb’s this year see what we can get out of our young safeties, and hope to have enough picks to trade up next year and pick Taylor Mays from USC if our safeties bust.
TheManMike
April 3rd, 2009
2:23 pm
Cutter-
READ!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xp1dUZUMXxc
Yes, i said Rey was fast….take a looksi, friend.
TheManMike
April 3rd, 2009
2:26 pm
Cutter -
I guess i’ll just not take part in the discussions until you and I agree…..jeez.
and who threatens people in a blog, i mean honestly….Its like throwing a cupcake.
JG
April 3rd, 2009
2:27 pm
D Led,
If Matthews and Cushing are on Steroids, do we Trade our First round pick for a early 2nd round and 3rd Round pick? Get all our Defensive needs in 2nd and third rounds. Maybe a Tight end in the 3rd?
Just sounds like everyones stock is dropping and there may be some serious bargain in the Second round?
cutter
April 3rd, 2009
2:27 pm
Rey Mauluga as a 255 lb FS is outside of any box I’m aware of.
cutter
April 3rd, 2009
2:33 pm
Mauluga 4.81 forty at the combine and ran better at Pro Day and I like the guy but he ain’t a MLB/FS hybrid.
JG
April 3rd, 2009
2:33 pm
Cutter and TheManMike
Rey Mauluga won’t be anywhere near where we draft, So I wouldn’t even waste your time on him. He will be long gone ..
D. Orlando Ledbetter
April 3rd, 2009
2:36 pm
THEMANMIKE: I go scouting at my favorite sports bar.
RENO911: Barwin is a good call. He’s Vrabel clone. Dude was stud for the Bearcats, starting his career as a TE.
BLOG TIP: Let’s slow down on the roid rage also its nothing new for Cushing. They were accusing him as far back as high school in New Jersey.
cutter
April 3rd, 2009
2:38 pm
JG- I agree
Ken Strickland
April 3rd, 2009
2:41 pm
If we do draft Mauluga, who is really a MLB, we have to consider the posssibility of us switching to a 3-4 DEF rather than switching Lofton to the outside. It would also explain all of the interest in hybrid LB/DE typess. Just a thought.
Stirg d'Nahsif
April 3rd, 2009
2:45 pm
cutter, what’s wrong, dude? Its okay; calm down.
Moving linebacker around is a natural thing in the NFL; its even more natural to draft linebackers for their versatility. Let’s not forget who was playing middle linebacker before we signed Ed Fartwell…You guessed it, Keith Brooking. Brooking has been playing out of position since graduating G.Tech. I think it was only his last years, in Atlanta, that he started playing his most natural position. Its okay to consider a linebacker for his versatility, so we can have the ability to move Lofton around. If I’m quarterback and I read the defense to assume Lofton, for instance, is out of position at SAM (not really out of position, though), I might be more inclined to throw in his route. I love the considerations this staff is making and I’m equally excited to watch the scheme unfold. We must remember the words that Coach Smith used to describe the linebacking corps in (t)his defensive scheme. He said “…in this defense, our linebackers are INTERCHANGEABLE”.
TheManMike
April 3rd, 2009
2:46 pm
JG-
Cutter Agrees – FYI.
D. Orlando Ledbetter
April 3rd, 2009
2:47 pm
DACULA JONES: Vick has no barring on draft prep. Commish is unlikely to do anything until they can meet, face-to-face. That would be May 21st at the earliest, almost a month after the draft. Things could change, but that’s where we are today.
TheManMike
April 3rd, 2009
2:48 pm
Stirg-
..To the rescue. thanks for the insights. I knew i was not alone on this….It was just a thought to begin with.
I am just not one of those people who think a guy MUST remain in his “natural” postition….i think that limits them….ALOT.
Tyger
April 3rd, 2009
2:49 pm
USC guys should’ve kept their shirts on at Pro Day. Cushing looked like the Terminator and Matthews looks like he just came off the GM assembly line too. Makes you wonder how many other Trojans are juiced? Who cares?
Well, you don’t want to spend a high pick on an artificially inflated player and watch him attrify right before your eyes. Will he perform at the same level, without the juice, under a stringent testing program? Will he miss games due to suspensions? Would he be a #1 pick without the juice? Is his body going to hold up, steroids make your joints/tendons pop.
Moreover, would he bring an unsavory underground culture to the locker room? Does he feel the need to juice to keep up?
Those guys immediately reminded me of Romanowski, who by all accounts, literally was a Beast; a rabid animal that did just as much to hurt, his team and himself. as to help.
Unless, Falcons move up, they wont get 1st rd. value at 24, unless a Michael Johnson or Maualuga falls to them.
I’m not sold that Vick won’t be traded, Falcons talking about Maualuga means they feel they can move up. To move up, you have to have chips. The #5s don’t carry alot of weight, but throw in Vick or Jamaal Anderson and you could put together a pretty attractive package.
Looks like Vick is going to play football afterall. Goodell can string this thing out if he likes. What would be proper contrition or remorse? Would a 30 min. infomercial crying profusely, like Jim Baker, be sufficient? Point is, the requirement is so vague, that it cant help but be arbitrary and capricious.
Some people, like PETA and others, are never going to forgive Vick, some hated him before and now have something to hang that hate on. But it wouldn’t matter what he did or what he does in the future, they hate him and some instances don’t even know why?
But there’s going to another football league this fall, and who looks most likely to cash in?
The USFL was fun. Herchel and the NY Generals, Steve Young and the Tampa Bay Bandits, Jim Kelly, Anthony Carter… could make for some interesting TV.
Falcons need some of Detroit’s picks, they have 5 in the 1st two rounds. The Detroit GM said he has needs, but he also needs to infuse some talent into his roster. And he’s going to use those picks to get players, he’ll fill needs later.
Detroit could keep their #1, get A. Curry, trade #20 for Vick, swap #2s and #5s with Falcons. Walk away with a star QB, and the best player in the draft and still have picks in their pocket for the later role players they need.
TheManMike
April 3rd, 2009
2:51 pm
DLED –
You would be the man if you searched for YOUR hottest Hooters Girl selection…..Post her and let us vote. We love the side discussions of hotties, i mean, who doesnt?
cutter
April 3rd, 2009
3:01 pm
Stirg- I’m not against moving guys around as long as they can play the position, Brooking moving to MLB did not turn out well at all he was getting killed in the gap. I just don’t think Lofton can move to OLB in the 4-3 and I definitely don’t think Mauluga can move to FS. TD said the OLB’s are interchangeable.
Strickland- That is what I have been thinking especially as more teams move to the 3-4 but there are more pieces to that 3-4 puzzle needed to be affective.
JB
April 3rd, 2009
3:12 pm
Cushing has been rumored to be on roids forever and I am not solid on Mathews either! Without the roids they will just be what they really are 4rd and 4th rounders i home the falcons stay away from them. And why all the talk about Talyor Mays next year he too might be on roids he isn not even the top Safety in College football he is overrated. Do you remember a guy at UT with the name Berry from Ga!!!
TheManMike
April 3rd, 2009
3:46 pm
I happen to believe Mauluga can play pretty much FS/SS/MLB and even OLB – IN MY OPINION. I have been watching this dude on tape and he is just all over the field. His vision is excellent in traffic and he can break the line. Thumper – should be his nickname. I like him better sitting back and attacking the ball, sit him in deep middle and he can cover the sides….believe that. If anything, he gives that power runner/hitter we dont have, well, Coleman can run and hit – but this dude just looks good to me.
Ok – im done talking about this dude, cause like someone mentioned earlier, He probably wont be on the board when we pick – why? B/C hes a bad arse…..thats why.
Michael Johnson seems to be a fine pass rusher as well. I like a DT for the first pick though, so…there you go.
WE’ll probably end up drafting a name NO ONE has mentioned.
Looking at that schedule next year, we need to be talking about DBs – unless we think our current men can make it happen….VHutchins/CJackson/BGrimes etc…..
Stirg d'Nahsif
April 3rd, 2009
3:50 pm
With all due respect, cutter, maybe you know something that Coach Smith does not. Share, so we can come up! Unlike your suggesting that Lofton cannot play OLB, most scouting reports demonstrate than he can play any linebacker position. The scouting report that I researched, courtesy of WarRoomReport.com, indicated that Lofton’s strengths include “…solid wrap up tackler…(and)…smooth player in coverage”. You mean to tell me this kid can stop the run AND cover well in passing situations? Yet, you don’t believe he’s versatile enough to move to either OLB positions. No offense, cutter, I’m going to roll with the research.
STRETCH
April 3rd, 2009
3:55 pm
The Giants just released Plaxicco Buress. The Falcons sure could use another reciever!
WHAT?
April 3rd, 2009
3:58 pm
The Falcons don’t need another receiver. That’s STRECHING it a bit.
D. Orlando Ledbetter
April 3rd, 2009
3:59 pm
http://www.ajc.com/sports/content/sports/falcons/stories/2009/04/03/falcons_usc.html
The USC visit is out there.
ix USC Trojans to work out for Falcons
By D. ORLANDO LEDBETTER
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Friday, April 03, 2009
The Falcons are going to Los Angeles to work out six USC Trojans on Saturday.
Team officials will conduct a workout with linebackers Rey Maualuga, Clay Matthews Jr., Brian Cushing and Kaluka Maiava, defensive tackle Fili Moala and cornerback Cary Harris.
“It’s a mass visit with all of the USC [linebackers],” wrote agent Gary Uberstine in an e-mail to the AJC. Uberstine represents Maualuga and Moala.
The Falcons are the process of revamping their defense after five starters left in free agency.
Linebackers Michael Boley (New York Giants) and Keith Brooking (Dallas), defensive tackle Grady Jackson (Detroit), cornerback Domonique Foxworth (Baltimore) and safety Lawyer Milloy (unsigned) will not return next season.
Cushing, Maualuga, and Matthews Jr. are projected first-round picks. The Falcons hold the 24th pick in the first round of the draft, which will be held on April 25-26.
Moala, 6-foot-4, 305 pounds, is considered a second- to third-round pick by Pro Football Weekly. Maiava, 5-11 1/2, 229, is considered a third- or fourth-round pick. Harris, 5-11, 187 pounds, is considered a mid- to late-round pick.
Stirg d'Nahsif
April 3rd, 2009
4:03 pm
What? We may not need another receiver; but, depending on where or if he signs, this will affect the draft, yet again.
TheManMike
April 3rd, 2009
4:13 pm
Stirg-
I agree with you on Lofton. With all the LB’s we are projecting, we have plenty of room to play all our big hitters and cover guys. Lofton can play all over the field……
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUADXr7_32c&feature=related
TheManMike
April 3rd, 2009
4:15 pm
I wouldnt mind another receiver to backup any injuries or even start…..if we can upgrade, then by al means, up grade…….Could we even afford Plaxo?
D. Orlando Ledbetter
April 3rd, 2009
4:24 pm
No way, on Plax. Birds are set a receiver, especially if Robinson can contribute. Do you really want a guy on your team who shoots himself? Didn’t think so.
THEMANMIKE: Sounds like a good research project for us all. I think it’s a stretch to say Maualuga can play either safety spots. He was 249 at the combine and has been as high as 270. He’s just too big and doesn’t fit the hybrid free safety description that TD has. But he’s one fierce hitter.
cutter
April 3rd, 2009
4:25 pm
As I stated earlier I watch alot of film on prospects to develop my beliefs, I watched the kid play alot and to me he’s a MLB. Any website that you go to is going to have its opinion, you found one that actually eludes to my point he struggles in man coverage and lacks ideal height and speed, if you can’t play man coverage as an OLB in the 4-3 you are not a three down OLB your resource also said that he was not a pass rusher so I guess I will retract my earlier statement that he could not play OLB and instead say that he could not play OLB very well… maybe certain situations but not only is he limited physically for the OLB position, he is still learning the MLB position. In my opinion he’s a good football player but I think his mark will be made at MLB. Unfortunately everybody can’t play 2 or 3 positions no matter how close in proximity it is to there own. There are some reports that say Mauluga may not be a three down MLB because of his speed that’s why I watch film so I can see for myself instead of trusting any scouting report available.
Sekou K. Smith
April 3rd, 2009
4:26 pm
Don’t hate Marcus. Any blog with Pam Grier on it is worth my time. Older the berry the sweeter the juice … good lookin’ D. Led!
And if the Falcons get Rey, put me down for season tickets. Dude is a monster!
cutter
April 3rd, 2009
4:27 pm
D.O.L.-cutter agrees FYI
Supes
April 3rd, 2009
4:47 pm
Chances are, any players from that vaunted USC defense were using “something”, but guess what, as long as they use it responsibly, don’t get caught, and continue to perform…I’d love it if they were on MY team…The Falcons. Anyone who thinks that USC players like Matthews Jr, or Cushing etc are the exception not the rule…open your eyes. At least 50-60% of all NFL players are on “something”. There is no test for HGH! Plus, even if you get caught using a mild steroid like Nandrolone, you get defensive player of the year…Shawn Merriman anyone? Yeah, that guy. The best, middle LB, fierce hitter from the chargers, and guess what, he took his suspension, learned from it…and won’t get caught again;)
So please, stop the self righteous dialogue about “steroids” and the USC players. Like I said, I’d love it if anyone of those guys were on my team!
Go Falcons!
tony
April 3rd, 2009
5:00 pm
I hope we draft Clint Sintim. That kid is a BEAST!
angry banker
April 3rd, 2009
5:01 pm
devil dawg – always amazed by ppl who read an entire blog, then comment on it. if you do like it, go read whatever ohio state draft board has beanie wells going 1st over all and JL going 2nd… Big ten homers…
Also – we only lost 1 (thats right O-N-E) starter from the linebacking core from last year. Boley didn’t start the 2nd half of the season. We replaced Brooking with Peterson (an upgrade I might add) lets move on…
We NEED DT (you want moorehead starting in the middle?) and we need a Safety (probably looking more 2nd or 3rd round).
Looks like we’re going to try and let the CDs mature a little bit – so many young short fast mediocre talents at the CB position, with the exception of Chevis (who I think could be a stud this year).
angry banker
April 3rd, 2009
5:02 pm
on sheer measurables we should get Micheal Johnson from Ga tech
angry banker
April 3rd, 2009
5:03 pm
*comment on it – meant to say trash it
cutter
April 3rd, 2009
5:18 pm
Too many colorado’s in the room
WHAT?
April 3rd, 2009
5:21 pm
Don’t need any player who test positive for drugs or who shoots himself with a gun. Come on! Some people need to realize what TD and Smith are trying to do. That’s build a team with men who won’t make the front page of a newspaper in a negitive way.
Tyger
April 3rd, 2009
5:37 pm
Dled, your blogs on fire!!! Falcoon Football and soft porn…you do know internet marketing.
Clint Stintim was on my early list, see Falcoon Easy Button #1, but he fell after the combine. He’s stiff as a board. He’ll make plays, but he’s 2nd-3rd round talent at best. Purely, ILB too, doesn’t have the speed or agility to make plays in the open field at the next level or cover well enough.
Orange Alert: Falcoons to Ground Zero stat:
Better get some troops on the ground and find out how bad this steroid thing is; take one of those boys high – and wham, he’s slapped with a suspension – there goes your investment – or he gets off the juice and Tarzan turns into Jane.
Didn’t Merriman blow his knees out too? My point exactly, that stuff will only get you there, it wont sustain you. And if RB are the most easily replaced, LB have to be second, its the same position on the opposite side of the ball. How effective is your LB after major reconstructive surgery? Not very and not long.
The Dean 21
April 3rd, 2009
5:54 pm
I seriously think TD is putting up a huge smoke screen to confuse other teams of their draft selection. Why else would the Falcons be working out LB’S, their need in this draft will be the selection, not their want. The TD & MS approach will be to address their needs by selecting 1. A defensive tackle 2. A defensive end 3. A defensive back in the first round. Like the true experienced blogger have suggested, the Falcons have a hand full of injured players returning which is like adding free agents and their progress will determine the way this draft goes. You heard it right here from the Dean~
Ken Strickland
April 3rd, 2009
6:13 pm
Before LB MBoley left, I read a report that told why he had an off season after having a breakout season the yr before. It stated although he’s quick, fact and has unlimited range, he couldn’t adjust to playing in a DEF scheme that required him to play within a predetermined area. Boley was said to at his best when allowed to roam from sideline to sideline. That’s why CWire did so well after replacing Boley, even though he isn’t nearly as quick, fast or athletic. That same scheme would allow CLofton to be effective playing OLB.
For us to switch to a 3-4 DEF, all we’d need, besides another big hitter at ILB, is a roadblock NT to play the middle, and a number of those types can be had in the lower rds. One of the main reasons teams go to the 3-4 DEF are increased flexibility and the abundance of quality LB’s, and DE’s that can play LB in a 3-4, as apposed to the limited number of quality DT’s available.
Let’s face it, a lot of SB calibur teams and teams with top rated DEF, like the Steelers, Patriots, Chargers, Cowboys and Ravens, play a 3-4 DEF. KBiermann and JAnderson would probably be more productive in a 3-4 DEF. MAN, I’M STARTING TO GET ANTSY WAITING FOR THE DRAFT. UNLIKE MY FEELINGS LAST YR, I’M CONVINCED WE’LL GET THE JOB DONE NO MATTER WHAT POSITIONS OR PLAYERS WE DRAFT.
terry
April 3rd, 2009
6:17 pm
per mike smith, all our LB’s will be interchangable…so it doesnt matter if one is coming out of college as a middle or outside. If the Falcons want Rey Maualuga they’ll take him. Whatever LB they take and in whatever round, everyone should be comfortable with it. Smitty was a LB so i think he knows what he’s looking for, and TD knows how to evaluate talent. We’ll be in the top 12 in defense this year and into the top 1 to 5 within a year or 2
Reno 911
April 3rd, 2009
6:23 pm
Now I’m not sure if anyone would trade to move up from their 2nd round spot to the Falcons’ spot at #24, but consider the logic of moving down.
There MAY be a game-changer at a spot the Falcons need at #24, but likely not. Raji (pot smoking or not) will be gone, Orakpo long, long gone… the USC OLB’s and Larry English may still be there, but their value as first rounders may be arguable, and at #24 a team might be overpaying for them. Pettigrew is an arguable first-round talent and value at a spot the Falcons need, but can the Falcons really go offense with their first pick with so many needs on Defense? Probably not. So, IF some other team would agree to move down, consider the advantages of moving down, trading a 1 and a 5 for a 2 and a 3, for example. I’d argue that a early 2nd rounder and a 3rd would do us just as much good as the late 1st that we already have. Now I know that most trade opportunities like that would only come up on Draft day, if for example, a team like the Falcons last year sees a run on OT’s and moves up to take Sam Baker with a late 1st.
Is this a huge waste of time? Sure, but indulge me here. Consider, if a team with a pick in the early 2nd (like, for example, Seattle, or Oakland) saw a coveted player sitting there at 24, but knew they wouldn’t have a shot at him, they might be game. Just for argument’s sake, think about the picks we’ve all bandied about at #24: Matthews/Cushing, Jerry, Sintim, Pettigrew, sean Smith, etc.
Now, think about the guys who we think will go until the 2nd and 3rd, respectively.
prospective 2nd rounders:
Connor Barwin, Sam/Will/DE/TE (I’d argue that in any other year, without such a heavy crop of good LB’s, Barwin would be a first-rounder).
Louis Delmas, S
Ron Brace, DT
prospective 3rd rounders:
Fili Moala, DT
Lawrence Sidbury, DE
Rashad Johnson, S
Dorrell Scott, DT
Chip Vaughn, SS
Shawn Nelson, TE
James Casey, TE
So in the imagined scenario, where the Falcons might trade their 1 and one or both 5s for a 2 and a 3 the Falcons would have two #2s and two #3s.
pick four of the names above, each of which would likely be an immediate if not a second-year contributor in a spot of need. In the scenario, three picks who will be legit players become four:
2nd round: Barwin, OLB; Moala or Brace, DT
3rd round: Rashad Johnson, S; Coffman or Casey at TE
Just a thought.
Reno 911
April 3rd, 2009
6:33 pm
Connor Barwin ran a 4.47 at his pro day, by the way (at 250+ pounds), and posted a 40+ inch vertical at the combine. Even though he’s a DE/OLB, he’d be the best TE on the Falcons’ roster. OK, I’ll stop now.
Phillip
April 3rd, 2009
6:47 pm
Daryl,
enjoy the blogs as always – even though I rarely agree……I would be OK with Clint Sintim – I do think you are a little harsh on Ziggy Hood though – I think he is a very nice prospect that will be considered. I don’t really see a starters role for an OLB right now if the Falcons are as high on Stephen Nicholas as I think they are (you tell me mister beatwriter)……..
It still seems like the best move is a trade down from #24 to somewhere in the #30-#40 range if they can pick up a 3rd rounder to boot.
Cameron
April 3rd, 2009
6:56 pm
DL:
I didn’t know that you had a better idea of what teams are actually are going to draft. I didn’t realize that you were making some of these questionable picks to stir up the pot and keep us occupied until the real draft. That makes me feel better. I also LOVE the fact that you do not like Ziggy Hood. Actually, I would LOVE him at 55 and HATE him at 24. Not enough production out of him or the Missouri defense for all the hype. I don’t think Sintim is a first round pick or a 4-3 LB, I think he is a 3-4 ILB although I assume you already new that.
Stirg:
It is correct that Lofton can play all three LB positions if needed. But, I heard Smith on the radio say that we are not looking to move him out of the middle. Plus, if you read the scouting report you posted you will know why. “Lacks top end speed.” How would he cover Vernon Davis or any other top TEs with speed?
smarter than you
April 3rd, 2009
7:01 pm
Lofton came out on passing downs last year. He is not going to play outside in a 4-3
Seminole Warrior
April 3rd, 2009
7:31 pm
The Birds first pick will be one of the following: DT Ziggy Hood or DT Ron Brace. Smitty’s philosophy is that pressure must come from the DL. Run defense is THE pressing thing that needs to be handled first and foremost. So the DT pick is the pick at #24. Additionally, look for Smitty and TD to add another large DT later (Taylor or Miller). Remember the following as a little history for the defensive-minded Smith. The core is the line. Ravens: Webster-Siragusa-Adams & J-ville: Henderson-Stroud.
Seminole Warrior
April 3rd, 2009
7:33 pm
Taking two tackles also allows flexiblity in that Babs could shift to the outside and play DE in a manner similiar to Dwight Freeney.
Old school fan
April 3rd, 2009
7:53 pm
My personal pick at 24…Darius Butler. I love Grimes’ attitude and work ethic. He is a positive for the team. But, his size makes him a liability against todays taller wide recievers. If not Butler, I have a feeling about Ziggy Hood. I don’t know why. I get good vibes about this guy.
Seminole Warrior
April 3rd, 2009
8:05 pm
Old school…I’m with you. My original choice was SS Partick Chung as most of the regulars here will attest to. But I sense that the pick is moving towards Ziggy Hood as well with Ron Brace as the alternate. The choice will be a DT in the first, a cornerback in the second.
cw
April 3rd, 2009
8:20 pm
First no way Detroit takes a tackle before Stafford. Not gonna happen! They need someone to invigorate the fans and a franchise qb does more for that than a franchise lt. The Falcons will follow old New England practice of building the D from inside out and draft the best DT or DE available. They will hunt secondary players and TE after.
cutter
April 3rd, 2009
8:22 pm
Hood is a 3 technique DT.
cutter
April 3rd, 2009
8:28 pm
Looks like drug test allegations are false.
Ed
April 3rd, 2009
8:48 pm
So are you going to pick someone different each week for the Falcons so you can say you got it right? I will say the rest of your draft is finally looking like the real thing for the first time this year.
TheManMike
April 3rd, 2009
9:00 pm
Cutter-
where you seeing that? If its been confirmed they were not using, then Clay Matthews looks more like a monster than he did before…..in my opinion.
cutter
April 3rd, 2009
9:37 pm
Check out rotoworld.com
cutter
April 3rd, 2009
9:43 pm
USC coach Pete Carroll stated emphatically that rumors of positive steroid tests involving linebackers Clay Matthews and Brian Cushing are “absolutely false.”
“If they were found positive, Clay and Cush would have been notified three weeks ago, which they weren’t, and all of the NFL teams would have been notified too, which they weren’t,” said Carroll. Matthews’ agent has advised NFL Draft Bible to “govern themselves accordingly” after he fired off an e-mail to the site. Illinois CB Vontae Davis has also denied the NFL Draft Bible report.
cutter
April 3rd, 2009
9:44 pm
The NFL has released a statement emphasizing that none of the 32 teams or even the league office have been informed of the drug test results from the Combine.
“The independent medical advisors who administer the tests have notified in writing those players and only those players who tested positive at the Combine. Unfortunately, rumors about draft eligible players … begin to circulate every year at this time. Many of these rumors are circulated for self-serving reasons and they are terribly unfair to the players and their families.”
TheManMike
April 3rd, 2009
9:47 pm
Wonderful. The Juice era is etched….
cutter
April 3rd, 2009
9:47 pm
Still unclear
cutter
April 3rd, 2009
10:49 pm
Hood private workout for Falcons monday.
tyger
April 3rd, 2009
11:20 pm
Something stinks….
Is it the “stinky stinky” at the top half of the draftboard or the “juice” at the bottom half?
Besides Troy Paulamaula, Reggie Bush and Carson Palmer how good are these boys really? Starting to resemble Duke; great college players, not so great pros, i.e. system guys.
Which normally wouldnt be a bad thing, but now there’s something fishy…didnt Keith Rivers blow his knees out too? What happened to Mike Williams?
How credible is this http://www.nfldraftbible.com? ESPN had nothing on the USC steroid allegation, but reported the stinky. Hmmmm….interesting, I wonder why? Same source, but different outcome, hmmm…
Michael Johnson is looking better everyday.
Big Ray
April 3rd, 2009
11:31 pm
I would find it exceedingly difficult to pass on Maualuga if he becomes available. Even with the desire to revamp/bolster the D-line. Maualuga is the real deal.
Kudos to ‘Nique and Stirg for recalling Lofton’s pre-NFL scouting reports. That was the first thing I thought of the very minute Maualuga was mentioned. He may have come out on passing downs last year, but that’s not to suggest that he CAN’T play OLB. That was just the way things were set up last year.
Honestly, I would have a hard time not liking Lofton and Maualuga in there. Scary. I’m talkin’ Rosie O’Donnell with no underwear scary. Well, maybe not THAT scary…
Sintim? At #24? Nah, I’m not buyin’ that D. Led. Of course, I also don’t think that’s on your final mock…
Big Ray
April 3rd, 2009
11:33 pm
While I don’t condone the act, I have to laugh about the “B.J. Raji tested positive for marijuana” stuff.
Guess what OTHER big time defensive tackle had the SAME issues coming out of school? Warren Sapp. I’m JUST SAYIN’.
Big Ray
April 3rd, 2009
11:54 pm
I’m not sweating the allegations. That’s media fodder for fools to feed on.
Truth is, the people who need to know? They’ll find out. And that ain’t us, now is it?
WILLSTER
April 4th, 2009
6:33 am
DO YOU REALLY THINK WE WANT A PLAYER,FROM VIRGINIA,PLEASE,IF THE FALCONS DONT GET 2 MEN THAT THAT CAN COVER EACH CORNER,WELL LET ME TELL YOU ALL NOW WITH THERE 2009 SCHEDULE,IT WONT MATTER WHO THEY DRAFT.IFORSEE A 6-10 SEASO, IVE ALREADY WENT AND BET THE SEASON UNDER FOR THE FALCONS,BECAUSE I KNOW FOR A FACT THAT TURNER WONT HAVE THE YEAR HE HAD LAST YEAR,SO RYAN WILL MAKE MORE MISTAKES,IUSED TO GET SO PISSED AT HOW THE FALCONS PLAY,NOW I JUST BET AGAINST THEM,SO THIS SEASON I SHOULD BE VERY HAPPY,AND THE FALCONS NEVER WILL GET RAY, HE WILL BE LONG GONE,BY THE TIME 24 COMES SORRY FALCON FANS, PETTIGREW WILL BE A SAFE HAVEN FOR RYAN.
marko
April 4th, 2009
6:37 am
Orlando, I’m giving away my age a bit but I remember Rosie Greer quite well He was a total monster on the on the field. Off the field he liked crocheting. He was standing only a couple of feet from Robert Kennedy when Bobby was assassinated. Watching a friend senselessly murdered before your very eyes is pretty serious stuff. Mock drafts on the other hand, are harmless fun. Just something do till the old toe meets leather next fall. If some of these folks hate yours that badly, maybe you ought to consider giving them their money back. Pete Carol has come out and stated that the steroid rumors concerning Cushing and Matthews were false. It seems that league is supposed to notify the kids and the teams when somebody fails a drug test. Evidently they really dropped the ball on this one. They only told the guys at draftbible.com. This should lend equal credibility to everything else you read on their site.
WILLSTER
April 4th, 2009
6:38 am
I write in caps because the falcons have had me in a rage since 1966.one of the worst franchies of all time,THANK GOD,IGREW UP A DALLAS FAN ALSO,ledbetter,youre mock draft is way off base.
Bird fan
April 4th, 2009
6:57 am
DOL
Skip the sophomoric Pam Grier crap and try to write a decent football column. You might get into some details on why we should pick a particular player rather than just stating the obvious fact that we need defensive players. Your two and three line evaluations of the Falcon’s needs are very shallow and lack any sort of in depth analysis.
David
April 4th, 2009
7:29 am
They aren’t drafting LB first round.
JJ
April 4th, 2009
7:52 am
WILLSTER: Try to grasp this concept: If we upgrade our front seven and pressure the qb more, our db’s will instantly be better. I am no fan of Houston but the coaches say he’s improving and I think this will be his 3rd year.
I hope you bet BIG against the falcons to calm your 43 yr. rage!!!
richbrave
April 4th, 2009
8:26 am
USC linebackers, no. Get behind the glitz and glitter FALCONS fans. That safety looks good for #1. Otherwise go up front and take a DT. Marcus FREEMAN in the 3rd at ILB.
Ken Strickland
April 4th, 2009
9:33 am
Think about this. If the Falcons didn’t have a 1st rd pick, we could still get everything we needed in this draft. This draft is loaded with talented 2nd, 3rd, 4th and 5th rd LB/DE hybrids, SS’s, CB’s, TE’s and DT’s. Who and what we draft with our #24 pick isn’t nearly as important as who and what we draft after the 1at rd. There are actually players projected to be 2nd and 3rd rds picks that are better values and better fits for us than some projected 1st rounders. TE and LB immediately come to mind.
When you look at our positions of need, there isn’t a significant talent difference between the projected 1st rounders and some 2nd and early 3rd rounders. This draft may not have as many marque players as last yrs draft had, but it certainly appears to be as deep, if not deeper, in overall talent, especially at our positions of need.
TD might not draft the particular player some of us would prefer, but he’ll certainly be able to draft a talented player at every position of need. We have talent at every position on our current roster that can step in and replace the FA’s we’ve lost, except for TE, which is the position that will get the biggest upgrade through the draft. Last yr, we started crawling. This yr, we’ll try to walk, but 2010 is the yr we’ll shed our diaper, start talking and running around the house wreaking havoc. GO FALCONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Jack
April 4th, 2009
9:51 am
BJ Raji and Percy Harvin tested positive for marijuana at the combine.Clay Matthews tested positive for banned substance…as did others.I think you need to adjust your board accordingly, because they WILL drop like a rock as a result.Hey AJC, do you need someone who DOES THEIR HOMEWORK??
richbrave
April 4th, 2009
10:01 am
I would look at CORNELIUS LEWIS, TENNESSEE STATE OG in the 5th. 6′4″ 330.
Doug Boy
April 4th, 2009
10:53 am
Great article D…loved the Fearsome Foursome…love Pam Grier more tho…
D3
April 4th, 2009
1:05 pm
Good Saturday Afternoon fellas. Picking at #24 has a ton of options, but I think that those options have seemed to have boiled down to OLB and DT. For all the talk of getting Mauluga, which would be awesome, it will be a moot point because he’ll be long gone, IMO.
I know there’s a ton of negative vibes about Cushing and Matthews on here, but I would be happy with either one at #24. They MAY be juicing, but until its proven as FACT, they are innocent until proven guilty, officially. Any of the following would be a solid pick, IMHO: Jerry, Hood, Cushing, Maybin, Matthews, and maybe Brace.
Personally, I think any safety or CB will be a reach in the first round, unless Malcom Jenkins drops to us, which is highly, highly unlikely. I definitely don’t get the Sintim pick. Sure, he’s more experienced than say a Matthews, but he seems that he may be maxed out and a little slow. Sintim seems like a big reach, particularly with Cushing sitting there.
Marcus
April 4th, 2009
6:37 pm
Sekou, my man, no hate. Pam Grier is vintage, and as you read my top-of-the-head short list, I gave Beverly Johnson madd props.
Looks like our draft prospects might become USC East like we were a southeast extension of VA Tech during the Mora era.
Dont mind as long as we go D heavy and pick up a versitle TE.
Big Ray
April 4th, 2009
7:56 pm
It’s amazing the number of people who get all mad about a mock draft that comes out WEEKS before the draft. News flash: nobody does a FINAL mock that early, and ALL of the experts will change theirs more than once before the draft actually GETS here. Calm down.
WILLSTER,
Hope you didn’t bet too much money. You might end up as bankrupt as somebody who used to play football around here. By the way, are you related to VS2?
BIRD FAN,
You could provide your own indepth analysis, you know. Like several others here, who are doing it daily. You DO have some, don’t you?
JJ
April 4th, 2009
8:34 pm
WHAT UP BIG RAY? The draft must be closer with all of our new bloggers. Yes, D-Led’s mock is weak this week, but I bet hes just covering ALL possibilities until D-DAY.
JJ
April 4th, 2009
8:47 pm
You know mine (brace,chung,nelson), who’s your fansy this week and do you beleive houston is going to get better? I’m already tired of this Kyle Orten highlight reel which off course shows #23 jock in hand!!!
They (falcon brain train) say he’s going to be the real deal this year. Memo to chris: stay out of highlight reels for our visitors!!!
Coach Ken: How do you survey / grade our db’s? Are they “youts” in training? Love grimes heart, wish we could fold it into houston head. Beleive houston was a 3rd pick from mckay? Scouting report my trusty f.f.bloggers (d3, stirg, marko, seminole, d-led, ren0, etc,,,)
D. Orlando Ledbetter
April 4th, 2009
8:58 pm
At Final Four party. Michigan State represented for the BIG TEN/ELEVEN!!!
SEKOU: Thanks for stopping by.
TYGER: I’ve got to keep honing by internet marketing skills.
PHILLIP: Thanks for dropping by. You don’t have to agree.
SMARTER THAN YOU: Good point.
WILLSTER: Pettigrew is in Sunday and Monday to visit Falcons, according to his camp.
BIRDFAN: Thanks for your commentary.
TRYING TO GET INFO OUT OF USC workout today. Maualuga met and interviewed with the Falcons. He let his Pro Day workout stand, according to his camp.
Big Ray
April 4th, 2009
9:12 pm
D3,
Agreed. Just about any DB is a reach at #24….unless there are NO good DT or LB prospects at all by then, which I don’t believe will be the case. And Sintim is a reach as well.
JJ,
What’s up, man? I can only hope that Houston gets better (I assume you mean Chris Houston). I think we could use a draft pick to help out there, but I couldn’t tell you who that should be. All the guys that I figure can help out immediately seem to fit three categories: gone by the time we pick, not good enough for the #24 pick, and gone by the time we get to our 2nd round pick. But that’s just my thinking.
Your ideas of Brace, Chung, and Nelson are cool with me, but something tells me we get derailed from that by the time we get to the 2nd round. Then again, you never know.
To be honest, I don’t know what to think at this point. I keep hearing how good Peria Jerry is supposed to be, but I just don’t know. I have no hesitation with Maualuga, but who’s to say we even get a sniff of him? I don’t think we do. I’m not completely convinced of Cushing or Matthews, although they damn sure look good on tape. I like Hood, and I’m cool with picking Brace.
The talk of tight ends seems to have died down, although Pettigrew is still our pick on a few mocks.
I don’t know, man. I do hope we get a good safety in the draft though.
DeadManWalking
April 4th, 2009
10:48 pm
Thanks for the updates Ledbetter.
Saw this on ESPN website.Don’t know if it means much.
Posted by ESPN.com’s Pat Yasinskas
Team needs: Defensive line, outside linebacker, safety
Todd Kirkland/Icon
The Falcons could use some pass-rush help in the form of Georgia Tech’s Michael Johnson.
Dream scenario: The Falcons already had the ultimate dream scenario last year when they hit big at quarterback (Matt Ryan), left tackle (Sam Baker) and middle linebacker (Curtis Lofton). Still, their defense wasn’t that good last year and Atlanta is looking to get younger in several areas. The best way to improve a defense overall is to start with the pass rush. In that area, the Falcons, who have the 24th pick in the first round, have nothing but John Abraham. They could get him some help and score some major points with the hometown fans if they can land Georgia Tech defensive end Michael Johnson.
Plan B: Drafting so late in the first round means the Falcons can’t lock in on any one position. If Johnson or another quality pass-rusher isn’t available, it will be easy for Atlanta to move in another direction. The Falcons let outside linebackers Keith Brooking and Michael Boley go through free agency. Although they brought in free agent Mike Peterson, they need another starting outside linebacker. USC’s Brian Cushing or Clay Matthews could fit nicely.
Scouts Inc.’s take: “It’s a defensive pick, obviously. When you’re picking that late, it’s the best available defensive player. Thomas Dimitroff is a Scott Pioli guy, so there’s always the chance they could trade and go back a few picks if the defensive player they want is there. The one thing that kind of intrigues me is Western Michigan safety Louis Delmas. Would the Falcons take a chance on him? It’s a potential-type pick, but he has the athletic ability and size to be a top-flight NFL safety. But how quick is a guy from Western Michigan going to be able to step in?” — Jeremy Green of Scouts Inc.
Who has final say: Coach Mike Smith and general manager Thomas Dimitroff are one of the most harmonious duos in the league. They almost always come to a mutual conclusion because they’re usually on the same page. But Dimitroff does have the final say if a dispute ever arises.
Ken Strickland
April 4th, 2009
10:58 pm
JJ-before we can evaluate any CB in this draft, we must first determine what type of DEF we intend to use them in. There are CB’s with zone skills, cover 2 skills and man cover skills. The CB’s on our roster are better in man coverage than zone. Because of our poor pass rush, and our former SS’s poor coverage skills, we played a lot of zone.
Smith was disappointed with CB CHouston’s physical play at the line of scrimmage. When playing zone, you want your CB’s to be physical and jam the WR hard at the line to prevent the WR’s from getting on top of your LB’s and safeties before they can drop back into their zone coverage areas. That’s not a problem when playing man DEF, but you must have a solid pass rush for man coverage to be effective. In fact, you need a solid pass rush for any pass DEF to be effective.
DE CDavis had 4 sacks to 2 for JAnderson with fewer opportunities, and should double or triple that amount with increased starter time. DT GJackson had 2 sacks, and TLewis, who’s younger, quicker, faster and more athletic, should double or triple that amount. DT JBabineaux should benefit tremendously from the increased pressure from the L side and the reduction of double teams. The increased sacks will also be accompanied by increased QB pressures. If we add another athletic DT like Hood or Moala, our pass rush will really be upgraded.
danny ray
April 4th, 2009
11:41 pm
a defensive lineman and a tight end are what the falcons need with the first two pick. give Ryan the weapons he needs and the Falcons go from a good offense to a great offense that will score early and often. the opposing teams will have to change their game plan early which usually means more passing, this allows the defensive line to go after the quaterback. under pressure there are more inteptions. the offense is so very close to being great. go for it!
what
April 5th, 2009
12:21 am
You are talking if’s and maybe’s Ken. That is not football, now you are just guessing. As much as you would like to be GM it is not going to happen.
Ken Strickland
April 5th, 2009
2:13 am
WHAT-after all is said and done, isn’t the draft, FA, mock drafts, the combine, deciding which player will be better, or a better fit, just guessing? No matter how much scouting and analyzing data GM’s and HC’s do, it’s still boils down to and informed opinion. You can’t tell me guessing isn’t a major part of football. If a play fails, someone guessed wrong, if it doen’t someone guessed right. That holds true on both sides of the ball. Football is based on IF’S and MAYBE’S. Maybe we should try a rieldgoal, or on side kick, or blitz or try for it on 4th down, or fake a fieldgoal. The QB is taught to read the DEF and IF
Are you telling me you wouldn’t you like to be a GM, or HC or Assistant Coach or a Professional football player or team owner. COME ON, IS THIS THE BEST YOU CAN DO, IS THIS ALL YOU HAVE TO TALK ABOUT?
Big Ray
April 5th, 2009
4:13 am
Ken,
The only thing I disagree with (very mildly, mind you) is the production of Lewis an Davis. It’s not easy to double or triple one’s sack numbers. I’d be thrilled if Davis provided us with 12 sacks next season. Same if Lewis had 6. It’s possible, just not easy. Besides, if things go right, there will be sack threats from more than just the two of them (and Abraham). But you get my drift.
Big Ray
April 5th, 2009
4:14 am
Ken,
Don’t you love bloggers who can’t talk football, they just come to talk about other bloggers? Heh, heh..
PHIL
April 5th, 2009
4:53 am
Any one like the TE from Rice? The thing that scares me most, and I don’t see one good enough dropping that far, is the CB’s. If we don’t get some better ones, the Fearsome Foursome won’t be able to help us.
richbrave
April 5th, 2009
7:52 am
KEN STRICK:
Somebody doggin’ you out for not disclosing ATLANTA’s plans for the draft? Moves in FA etc? If you had that info you’d have your own AJC blog and be the blogmeister. Hell, if you don’t stay nimble, you’re nowhere in this league. Things change from minute to minute. And that’s the only truth.
Bird fan
April 5th, 2009
7:53 am
Big Ray
You seem to miss the point. I read the blog to be enlightened about football (not Pam Grier). If I knew everything there is to know about the game, I would be writing columns, not reading them. That is why I am looking for in depth analysis. Unlike some, I do not voice my opinions when I do not know what I am talking about. Does that simplify the matter enough for you, Big Ray?
richbrave
April 5th, 2009
7:58 am
I would point out once again that USC players are role players in a system and look great when they’re in that system. They don’t always perform well when they are not playing in that system. Be certain that the FALCONS run similar schemes before picking one.
JJ
April 5th, 2009
8:47 am
Since were talking soo much about improving our def. and with all the talk about drafting LB’s, I decided to do a little research.
What is the better defense in todays NFL? 3-4 OR 4-3?
Yes, I know you have to have different type players for each and the falcons have been a 4-3 team forever, but what if we have a surplus of LB? Could we switch to the 3-4? or use both depending on pass/run?
Found a great article by Pat Kirwan of nfl.com. He broke down all the different packages of the 4/3 and 3/4 and their different blitz packages (never Knew their was so many).
http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d80d6974b&template=with-video-with-comments&confirm=true
His conclusion:
“The NFL’S top 2 defenses (Pittsburgh and Baltimore) are 3-4 teams. The top 2 defenses in sacks (Dallas and Pittsburgh) are 3-4 teams. Therefore, it might be time to CONSIDER the 3-4 a better package against modern offenses.”
It’s probably a moot point because I beleive Coach Smith has always been a 4-3 man. But, what if?
richbrave
April 5th, 2009
10:34 am
And here’s a late round nugget for you. Washington D.C. native GREG TOLER 5′11″ 191 CB ST. PAULS, 4.37 personal best, 4.45 consistant 40 time. 24 years old, and raw, but good hip turns left and right, 34″ vertical. Great upside potential and excellent football smarts. Beginning to get noticed since his invite to the UNIVERSITY of RICHMOND combine day.
Stirg d'Nahsif
April 5th, 2009
1:18 pm
JJ, I really admire your entry. I also appreciate your research. After reading the article you presented, I have a better understanding of the pros and cons of 3-4 vs. 4-3 defenses. I’m deeply concerned with the flood of suggestions to move from our traditional 4-3 defense to the more unconventional 3-4 defense. I’m fully aware that the top defenses in the NFL, right now, are 3-4 defenses (Baltimore, Pittsburgh, Miami, etc.). I perceive that a number of teams in the NFL are looking forward to the switch (from 4-3 to 3-4) and seek similar success as championship teams playing the unorthodox 3-4 defense.
I, personally, have a problem with Atlanta considering “the switch” and here’s why. Thomas Dimitroff was hired because of his unique and quaint abilities. A person cannot be given that description (unique and quaint) unless they are truly different. What makes TD different is the fact that he will “go against the grain”. When everyone goes left, he tends to go right. That is what makes most people successful. I don’t think TD (or Coach Smith) will solely consider switching to 3-4, simply because most teams have chosen to switch against more modern offenses. I really think that Coach Smith’s scheme will work (if players “buy in”) with a non-traditional 4-3 set (I use “non-traditional” for the lack of a better term to describe Coach Smith’s intention to utilize hybrid players).
I, too, did some research after I read your entry and the article that was included. The article seem to demonstrate a preference for 3-4, as opposed to 4-3, because of its ability to conduct a swift and effective pass rush; however, I noted that it did not illustrate a 3-4 defense’s ability to stop the run, which is most important. Out of the top ten NFL defenses against the run, only three of them were 3-4 defenses. Matter of fact, Falcons ranked seventh, in defense, against the run (4-3). My point is this: If a defense can stop an offense from running the ball, it’ll make an offense become one-dimensional, relying on only the pass. Defensively, I’d rather guard against a sole passing offense than an offense that unleashes its weapons by running and passing. Chances are greater to stop the run with a 4-3 defense than it is with a 3-4 defense; and that is why we’ll remain a 4-3 defensive team (period).
Brock D
April 5th, 2009
1:48 pm
“Bring It Back”, did you ride the short bus to school? The Falcons had the number 2 rushing attack in the league. Oh, and Mike Vick threw himself under the bus.
JJ
April 5th, 2009
1:57 pm
Stirg: I agree, stopping the run has to be job 1. I’m just getting bored waiting on some info, any info about our birds. It is a interesting question (3/4 vs. 4/3) and that article does a good job. Did you read any of the comments at the bottom of that article? They said the same as you about the run.
Thank God MASTERS WEEK IS ALMOST HERE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
PRICELESS: Sunday afternoon, amen corner with hopefully 2 or more in contention….and tiger rolling one in at 18. woo-rah!!!!!!
Mike
April 5th, 2009
2:13 pm
I do agree that Bierman and ANderson are more fit for a 3-4 than a 4-3. I was shocked when Atlanta drafted Anderson in 07, because most thought he would either be an DE in a 3-4 or moved to tackle in a 4-3. I do not believe Abe is a 3-4 DE, and playing LB in a 3-4 he would be a one down lb. I do think that if they draft Mauluga it could suggest that they have intentions of moving to a 3-4. If that is the case I see them taking a DT in the second round. Maybe Moala out of USC. I do not think that they will take a corner in the first two rounds. Jenkins and Davis seem to me the only two corners that have first round talent, and both should be gone by the middle of the first. I think C Jackson will be solid now, with a year under his belt, Houston will be a strong nickle corner. Maybe after the draft Atlanta could pick up S Rolle who I think is still a solid cover guy, and could provide some leadership in the secondary. On offense I do not see a lot of needs other than tight ends, and the pool is deep this year. I do wonder if Robiske is still on the board in the second round and Atlanta is on the clock, do they ignore their defensive needs, and take a receiver?
Ken Strickland
April 5th, 2009
2:43 pm
BIG RAY & RICHBRAVE-I’m far from the only poster on these blogs who likes to research and analyze info, as well as think outside the box. I’ve read too many comments that have actually given me the idea to research some of the stuff I’ve presented. Yet, I seem to be the only one that inspires these clowns, whose football IQ is abviously limited, to come out of the closet and attack.
It’s an old trick used by people with intellectual limitations, especially in areas of interest. It happens when they read or encounter something or someone that really makes sense and is well presented and thought out, but it goes against their beliefs sand/or preconceived notions. Instead of attacking the message, which they’re really not equipped to to, they attack the messenger. The premise is, if you can discredit the messenger, you can ignore the message.
We saw a lot of that in the presidential elections. When they couldn’t deal with Obama’s message or position, they tried to discredit him by painting him as a Muslim or potential terrorist. It didn’t matter to them that both JMcCain and GBush had a long standing personal and business relationship with terrorist Osama Bin Laden that extended all of the way back to the Jimmie Carter era when Russia’s invaded Afganistan. THIS IS THE KIND OF SICK MENTALITY THESE CLOWNS HAVE.
Don’t worry, I’m have too much fun and I’m too excited about the future of the Atlanta Falcons to allow attacks by these imcompetents to desuade me from offering my opinions on these blogs. THOSE OF US WITH ACTUAL IQ’s ARE INTELLIGENT ENOUGH TO AGREE TO DISAGREE AND OFFER OUR REASONS WHY WE DISAGREE.
jj-I mentioned the 3-4 possibility in an earlier post. The most dominant DEF the Falcons ever had was the 3-4 “GRITS BLITZ” DEF when LBennett was the HC and JGlanville was the DC. We also had a failed attempt at playing the 3-4 DEF when Dan Reeves was HC and Wade Phillips, the Cowboys current HC, was our DC. It failed because he didn’t inherit the right personnel to make it work. After Reeves was fired, the Chargers hired WPhillips as their DC. He got the players he needed to make it work and their DEF was outstanding. Part of the reason Dallas hired him as their HC was their decision to switch to the 3-4 and his expertise and successs with that DEF. CDavis and JAnderson have the size, strength and talent to be successful in a 3-4 DEF. LB’s Peterson, Lofton and maybe Wire would be exdellent ILB in a 3-4. LB’s James and Nicholas would be excellent OLB’s in a 3-4. TLewis would do well as a NT. DE JAbraham would continue being the pass rushing specialist. They’d continue moving him around like they did last yr. Babineauz could also play DE in a 3-4. In fact, we used the 3-4 DEF on occasion last yr.
JJ
April 5th, 2009
2:45 pm
4-3 vs. 3-4
“A problem with this comparison is it talks only about passing situations, how about the run game? (Stirg)
A run up the middle against a 3-4 outside blitz is pretty effective.
There is a good chance of the OL making it to a LB freeing the FB to hit the safety. You are also leaving out the transition to nickle (or dime) for some passing situations.
A lot of 3-4 teams actually transition over to a 4 man front for nickle packages, but dont necessarily have the right PLAYER TYPES to be in a 4 man front.
A 4-3 team can slide into nickle easier. -(interesting…dont see it though, seams other way to me..JJ, I digress)- If a team goes 3 by 2 empty -(what..?)- you most likely won’t have all your linebackers on the field anyways, so the 4 LBs vs. 3 LBs doesn’t cut it as an argument.
There are some 3 man front pass defenses, but you are basically stating no desire to put pressure on the passer. – (but you have 4 LBs behind them ?)-
The comparison also focuses just on line play stunts for 4-3 teams but LB blitzes for 3-4 teams. 4-3 TEAMS BLITZ THEIR LBs TOO.
If you look at the 2 best pressure 4-3 teams (Giants and Eagles), you’ll see you can bring quite a variety of pressure from many different places in the 4-3.”
JJ
April 5th, 2009
2:54 pm
Ken, it was your blog that got me going on this…your excitement over the poss. of 3-4 literally jumped of my screen..so that got me started. After my limited research and knowledge of football, I want to stop the run first. So I guess I agree with 4-3 and Stirg.
D3
April 5th, 2009
4:27 pm
JJ – good argument on 3-4 vs. 4-3 defensive philosophy. It definitely seems that the 3-4 gives much more of a pass rush possibility than a 4-3, but also gives some ground on the run game, unless you got some stud down tackles. It would be intriguing to see if Smitty and BVG would implement at least some 3-4 looks, because even though thats been his base D as a coordinator, he learned under Billick, Lewis, & Co. in Baltimore with the 3-4. The only problem with the switch is that it would take some time to make that switch An example is the Green Bay Packers who are switching to a 3-4, but haven’t seem to make any moves via FA to address it. We’ll
Ken Strick – you’re the man and those of us who actually pay attention to your thoughts recognize it. Don’t even take the bait on the negative guys on here who know very little and always present a dour note. Particularly, those who post under a BS handle name.
Phil – Casey is definitely an interesting prospect, and one that has not been mentioned much. His scouting report from draftcountdown.com:
Strengths:
Super athletic…Has excellent hands…Terrific body control and ball skills…A good leaper who high-points the ball…Above average speed and quickness…Runs good routes and knows how to get open…Will stretch the field…Can do some damage after the catch…Tough and not afraid to work in traffic or over the middle…Smart…Nice instincts and awareness…Hard worker…Mature…Extremely versatile…Big upside
Weaknesses:
Just average height and bulk…Short arms and small hands…Not very strong or powerful…Isn’t much of a blocker, especially in-line…Did not play in a pro style offense…Still awfully raw and doesn’t have a lot of experience…Is older than the average prospect…A bit of a ‘tweener.
I think that playing in a spread type offense has hurt him some for sure, particularly not being able to block well at all. I think we probably could get someone like Nelson, Cook, or Coffman who probably wouldn’t have such a deep learning curve on blocking. But, he does seem to have great ball skills. I mean, regardless of OFF system, scoring 13 TD’s and going over 1,300 yds is d@mn impressive.
richbrave – nice gem alert in Toller. Decent size and gotta love the speed.
Mike – exactly what I’ve been saying as well on top-end of the CB pool. Jenkins is the only one I’d be happy with if he dropped, which ain’t gonna happen, BTW. Vontae Davis doesn’t seem to be a good fit in our leadership, character guy concept. Any player who has serious problems with coaches and is public about it, you have to hesitate. Not saying he won’t be a good player, just not a good fit for us. I too think that Chevis Jackson will turn some heads this year. You don’t start all four years as a CB in the SEC, at LSU, if you’re not up to par. Gotta say that we’re stacked at WR and that is definitely not a need, assuming Robinson comes back up to speed.
19 DAYS & 19 HOURS ‘TIL GAME TIME GENTLEMEN!!!!!
richbrave
April 5th, 2009
4:38 pm
KEN STRICK:
Way too much in presidential and other politics. But none of that from us buddy. I still feel that the FALCONS could have chosen D-line first last year and had FLACCO whom I rated as highly as MATTY ICE. Still do.
Zorro
April 5th, 2009
4:53 pm
Ken,
Jeez man, you off your meds or what? Somebody writes a post you don’t like and that means they are not only intellectually inferior but also support Osama Bin Laden and … the Russians? Now you talk about some people who don’t understand football. You need to slow down fella. You’re headed for a nervous breakdown.
D3
April 5th, 2009
4:54 pm
BTW, new mock draft out by our old buddy Steve Wyche. He has us taking Vontae Davis with our pick and Clay Matthews going to NE right before us. I’m sure he’ll be ok, but anytime you hear about a poor attitude and weak work ethic, it scares me. Honestly, if Maybin/Cushing/Matthews/Jerry are all gone, I say go with Hood or Brace over Davis. Even though, I haven’t seen one mock with Brace going in the first.
http://www.nfl.com/draft/story?id=09000d5d80f974f3&template=with-video-with-comments&confirm=true
Mike
April 5th, 2009
6:37 pm
Now that I have seen the ignorance coming out, though this was a football blog rather than a place to protect the messiah, and post political nonsense. in the late 70’s and 80’s there was support from the US Govt for the Taliban (which did not include Bin Laden at the time) in their apparent struggle against the Soviets at the time. Those efforts were supported by McCain. And for the record, most people who had a problem with Obama was due to his Socialit Agenda that he is enacting now, and many said those that opposed him were nuts for thinking he could do that. We are seeing the same debacle that those who lived through the 30’s saw, when an 18 month recession that was caused by Hoovers stupidity, was turned into a the Greatest Finacial Disaster of all time by the hands of FDR. Just figured I would try to clear that up now that we are not talking football anymore. No wonder the AJC is about to go belly up.
JJ
April 5th, 2009
7:31 pm
wow…je ne sais pas…wow…eh falcons?
JJ
April 5th, 2009
7:42 pm
R u FRIKEN KIDDING ME? COME ON! Coach ken and mike please battle your political insight anywhere but here..no disrespect..love coach K’s incredible football knowledge and mike..sorry, dont know you. BUT I BET BOTH OF YOU AGREE, THIS IS A FALCONS FOOTBALL BLOG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Side note: I voted for Ms. Foxy Brown! The baddest bitch in the USA! lol
JJ
April 5th, 2009
9:01 pm
good night kids, afraid I’m a early riser and as much as I want to, can’t hang with the cool kids at night! lol, Hoo-rah, go Falcons!
what
April 5th, 2009
9:45 pm
Sorry guys, I didn’t mean to make Ken mad with my late night comment, it was just an opinion. He is still the man. He may go a little bit overboard sometimes but he still knows football.
Ken Strickland
April 6th, 2009
2:29 am
ZORRO-I admit, I did go overboard on that last post. However, you’re not one to talk since you accused me of inferring I accused anyone that disagrees with me of being intellectually inferior, supporters of Bin Laden and the Russians. It appears my post struck a nerve with you. Like I said in my overboard post, it’s all about trying to discredit the messenger while ignoring or distorting the message.
RICHBRAVE-I also wanted them to trade down and draft DT CEllis and then trade up and take Flacco. The Ravens would have jumped at the chance to take Ryan. I actually rated Flacco higher that Ryan because of his stronger arm. What I and a lot of distractors didn’t consider is Smith and TD valued Ryan’s accuracy over Flacco’s arm strength.
MIKE-you were correct in determining DE JAbraham isn’t a 3-4 DE. The fact is he represents almost half our total number of sacks. As injury prone as he’s been thoughout his career, we can’t continue depending on him as our primary pass rusher. As it is now, if he goes down our pass DEF is dead. Also, your trek into the political arena was informative, and you were absolutely correct and very well informed.
BIG RAY-if aging, overweight, shortwinded GJackson got 2 sacks last yr, I don’t think it’s a stetch to expect a younger, quicker, faster, more athletic and energetic TLewis to double that total. DE CDavis doubled starter JAnderson’s 2 sacks last yr as a rotational DE coming off the bench and receiving far fewer opportunities. It’s not unreasonable to expect him to double his total as a starter, expecially with JAbraham herding them in his direction. Having 2 pass rushing DT’s like TLewis and JBabineaux will make it more difficult for QB’s to step up into the pocket to avoid the outside pass rush. We didn’t get that from big Grady, at least not with any degree of consistency.
JJ-I was just using that as an analogy. I wanted to make a point and I used an analogy that everyone should have been able to relate, whether they agreed with it or not.
How many of you can actually say you’ve been this interested and excited about Falcon football this far removed from the seasons end? After the draft, I think interest in the Falcons will still be high. Can you guys just imagine how we can discuss how our draftees will be used, how many will start or play vital rolls? Add that to the normal discussion of who we should have drafted.
Big Ray
April 6th, 2009
9:05 am
I don’t know that Mike Smith would want to go to a 3-4. These guys don’t change their minds overnight, but then….what do I know?
KEN,
I hear you. Doubling, I can see. Tripling is a little harder. I really hope Trey Lewis is everything they say he is, too.
D3,
I saw what Wyche wrote. I guess the biggest question is, does Vontae Davis present a serious upgrade among our group of DBs? If he doesn’t I still gotta go with DT or LB.
terrell
April 6th, 2009
9:06 am
we need to draft Peria Jerry DT from Ole Miss with our first pick if he is still on the boards. He will fill the gap left by Grady Jackson and teams will have to focus on him along with John Abraham which will let Jamal Anderson finally show why he was drafted in the first round.
Glenn
April 6th, 2009
10:10 am
It seems to me that with the major passing attack of New Orleans in play, as well as that of Carolina with Steve Smith, and that of the improved Tampa Bay Bucs(now that they’ve added a top notch tight end), Atlanta needs to be focusing on a hybrid DE/LB (kind of like the Steelers have employed recently).
I personally think the Falcons need someone who can come off the edge and rush the passer with gusto, causing havoc, but can also drop back into coverage and provide run support. I can’t help but to think back to the problems Julius Peppers caused when he came out of school and moved all over the field.
I don’t think a Defensive Tackle will provide the over-all solution to the Falcons problem, just as I don’t think a stand-alone Linebacker or Defensive Back would as well. The Falcons can try to fill those slots after the First Round.
I would also suggest that if a second active hybrid LB/Defensive End was in place, that would open things up for John Abraham, which would, in turn, require double teams to either side of the line of scrimmage to protect the QB, opening up the middle for the Defensive Tackles to have a better shot at one-on-one opportunities, which our lighter, more agile players could take advantage of.
BigSherm7
April 6th, 2009
10:10 am
The Birds need to address the fact that John Abraham is an injury waiting to happen, and that Jamal Anderson (who?) Jamal Anderson (remember him) hasn’t sacked anything since he worked at the local Kroger (talk about a draft day bust foisted on the unsuspecting by Bobby I’m outta heah Pettrino)! Birds go 10-6 or 9-7 with a much more difficult schedule . . . GO BILLS!!!
Falcon228
April 6th, 2009
11:56 am
I still like Peria Jerry or Larry English as the choice. I wish we could grab Brandon Pettigrew though. I missed that big TE last year grabbing a pass and plowing through the secondary. Evander “Ziggy” Hood might be a surprise choice. Patrick Chung is my choice for a second round choice. Unless we draft Pettigrew in the first round. If that happens then I’d grab Sidbury out of Richmond.
D3
April 6th, 2009
1:04 pm
Whats up gents? We’re 18 days & 23 hours away from draft day. Gotta feel the excitement. If TD, Smitty, & Co. put in half of the effort we bloggers have on drafting guys, we should be fine (we know they have).
Seen quite a few mocks having us taking a CB, J.Mike Moore has us taking Darius Butler and Wyche has us taking Vontae Davis. I could live, begrudgingly, with a Vontae Davis pick, but would not be happy with Darius Butler. We can add a CB later in the draft (4th or 5th), such as Sherrod Martin, Keenan Lewis, or Jerius Byrd that is bigger, stronger, and close to as fast, JMO.
Terrell – completely agreed on Peria Jerry. If he’s there, I say its a no-brainer, but I don’t think he’ll be there. Every mock draft I’ve seen doesn’t have him slipping past Tampa Bay.
Glenn – I think a hybrid LB/DE would still be a good option as well. Everyone seems to be jumping on the DT train, understandably so, but I’m still hoping we go with a Maybin, Cushing, Matthews, English, or even Barwin. Although, Maybin & Cushing will most likely be gone & Barwin doesn’t necessitate a 1st round pick I think. Assuming Raji & Jerry will be gone, I would be happy with Hood or Brace, especially if we could add Patrick Chung, William Moore, or Chip Vaughn in the second.
BigSherm – I think thats what they were doing when they resigned Chauncey Davis, at least for this year. I believe we have one more year before we need to draft Abraham’s replacement. Davis, Anderson, & Biermann give us a decent rotation for this year, assuming we draft a replacement for next year.
Falcon228 – I would be happy with Jerry, Hood, or English as our #24. I was completely on the Pettigrew train, until I started realizing how deep TE is this year. As has been mentioned many times, Pettigrew is the most complete TE with catching and blocking, but defense needs the most immediate help. Guys like Shawn Nelson, Jared Cook, Chase Coffman, and even James Casey have huge upside if our coaches can get them in order to block better.
D3
April 6th, 2009
1:05 pm
What is the deal with this blog eating posts? Just totally disappears, like Josh McDaniels good will as new head coach.
Lamar Huffstetler
April 6th, 2009
1:20 pm
I’m not totally convinced that Jason Smith will go #1. I was at the Alabama Coaching Clinic a few weekends ago and heard Ozzie Newsome speak. He stated that there was an offensive tackle in the draft that would probably go in the top ten who never played with his hand on the ground. He said the only time he evaluated film of him with his hand on the ground, they were inside the 10 yard line and he got knocked 4 yards off the ball. I think Schwartz is going to implement a run first offense that complements the defense he will try to build. Would he select a tackle with the #1 pick MIGHT be an effective run blocker? He may, I’m just not sold on that one.
D3
April 6th, 2009
2:27 pm
Some tidbits from NFL.com, they got a couple of stories on the Falcons today:
Steve Wyche on Matty Ice’s rookie season and his outstanding work ethic:
http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d80f8cd49&template=without- video-with-comments&confirm=true
Pat Kirwan on NFC South draft needs, including Atlanta(pretty spot on):
http://www.nfl.com/draft/story?id=09000d5d80f809ab&template=with-video-with-comments&confirm=true
Kirwan is pretty much right in line with most of what has been discussed on here including:
-DT being a big need and having a big body like Jerry, Hood, or Brace.
-Interestingly, he didn’t even mention Trey Lewis
-Seems to think that DeCoud, Fudge, & Harris have a legitimate shot @ SS
-Seems to think we look for a safety in middle rounds
-Also says that Peterson might be more geared for a backup role(what?)
-Doesn’t even mention Stephen Nicholas
-Says that Smitty & Co. are down on C.Houston(never heard that one)
BTW, if there was any argument on Rich McCay’s tenure as GM, 4 out of 5 first round draft picks might close the book:
1)Deangelo Hall (no longer with team)
2)Roddy White (pro-bowl)
3)Jimmy Williams (traded up to get; no longer with team)
4)Jamaal Anderson (jury’s still out, but not great so far)
A 25% success rate is pretty awful, especially since 2 of them aren’t even with the team anymore. Is Jimmy Williams even in the league?
D3
April 6th, 2009
2:29 pm
Correction: Jimmy Williams was an early second round pick, but McKay did trade up for him.
D3
April 6th, 2009
2:32 pm
Correction #2: Kirwan’s analysis was ’somewhat’ in line, not right in line, especially since he didn’t even mention Trey Lewis or Stephen Nicholas.
I MUS.WRITE
April 6th, 2009
3:06 pm
Jeezuz- I tired of all the guessing,,,,,,,, Can sumone sneak in and get a look at TD’s Matrix/ Draft Board.
I am not to sure about P.Jerry, the man is to light to eat up space in the middle like Big Grady, I dont think he’s the pick at 24. Dorsey was an animal 2 years ago in the best conference in college football and I didnt hear a peep out of him this past season. I dont think P.Jerry dominated like Dorsey did so…………
WE really need to get 3 of these 4 players…….. Roy Miller, Zach Follett, Lawrence Sidbury, P.Chung
I MUS.WRITE
April 6th, 2009
3:09 pm
Post eating blog strikes again…………
D3
April 6th, 2009
3:24 pm
It’s amazing that so many experts still have us taking Pettigrew, Billick and Mayock now included. I wouldn’t be outright upset with this pick, but TD & Co. better be able to pull huge gems out for D in later rounds.
Mayock, BTW, had us taking James Laurinitus…..Blech!!!!
Ken Strickland
April 6th, 2009
4:02 pm
It’s really not important what position we draft with our 1st pick because we’re more than just one player away from satisfying our needs, especially on DEF, and going to the next level. I’m jacked up by the fact it doesn’t matter who or waht position we draft first, this draft can give us quality at our positions of need. But, it’s up to the individual player to stepup and be productive his 1st yr. We can’t go to the next level if too many of our draftees take as long to develop as DE JAbraham. We need more immediate contributions like we got from last yrs draftees(CB CJackson, MLB CLofton, WR HDouglas, LT SBaker, DE KBiermann and QB MRyan).
It was truely amazing how so many of last yrs draftees developed considering the circumstances. They didn’t have the benefit of a lot of veteran help since, like them, the vets were trying to learn the new system, terminology and coaching staff as well. And in some cases, they were engrossed in trying to make the team themselves. This yrs draftees should have it a lot easier since most of the vets will be extablished and everyone else will be familiar with everything.
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TT44
April 6th, 2009
4:48 pm
please dont take another player from the Acc….my goodness, especially the Va. area (vick, and the wonderful CB dont even want to say his name, but his nickname should have been ME…lol…………Get into the SEC for your tougher players. Matt Ryann is an exeption to the Acc… GOOOOO FALCONS!!!!!!
Stirg d'Nahsif
April 6th, 2009
5:01 pm
There are so many suggestions to trade down. The draft is deep with players to fill our needs. Most have suggested that, because there is no quality defenseman worthy of “24″, we should trade our first rounder for later rounds. Even Ken just suggested “this draft can give us quality at our positions of need.” If that is true and we cannot agree on a quality defenseman, then why don’t we use the first round pick to fill our need on offense. I know, I know, it seems like I’m pimping Pettigrew again (sorry D.O.; trying to get my point across) but if we all agree that our defensive needs will be satisfied by later rounds then why not pull the trigger on the one player that can change the dynamics of our A-game. Furthermore, if our defense is so crippled, then why not keep them off the field; and how do we keep them off the field? By controlling the clock with the most potent offense in the NFL. Believe me, there will be a quality tackle, safety and linebacker at second and later rounds, just like most have already suggested.
My GrandMa, bless her soul, told me a long time ago, “when you get to a point in your life and you don’t know what to do, be still.” Why pull the trigger on a player and we don’t even know who to shoot? We’ve been debating for months, at least I have, on which defenseman to take at “24″; and we still haven’t developed a consensus. I know this entry seems like a contradiction to my suggesting a tackle for “24″. I still think tackle is a good idea to draft early but I, like TD, think outside the box. After all, didn’t TD draft offense first last year, when everybody else wanted a defensive tackle (Dorsey)? Hmmm.
(Uh-oh), I just realized why this draft excites us and why we blog so much about it. We’re so indecisive about “24″…and beyond. Since blogging with you guys, I done went from safety, to linebacker, to tight end, to tackle, back to tight end. My decision on who to draft is working like John McCain (sure hope I don’t end up with a Sarah Palin).
falcon21
April 6th, 2009
6:16 pm
Thanks D3, good stories on the Falcons.
falcon21
April 6th, 2009
6:24 pm
TT44, Vick was a good pick at the time. No one new he would refuse to grow up.As for ME, you are 100% right.
falcon21
April 6th, 2009
6:37 pm
I did’nt mean for my last comment to sound offense in anyway.If I offended anyone, I apologize.
D3
April 6th, 2009
6:59 pm
Guys, what the Hell? We traded WR Laurent Robinson to swap spots with the Rams for the 5th and 6th rounds? Fellow Bird-Cager’s help me out with this one because I don’t get trading a great, young potential that could have solidified our WR corps. as one of the best in the league.
I’m sure there’s a method to the madness, but I don’t get trading Robinson after such a great rookie year and one injury-plagued year. We didn’t even get an extra draft pick, so we can add WR to our needs now, unless there’s someone out there they would like to pick up as a 4th or 5th option. I mean, thats one injury away from being short at WR. Normally, I’d say awesome b/c that could clear the way for my Bulldog Massaquoi, but he’ll be gone by the 4th. D@mn, WTF?
D3
April 6th, 2009
7:12 pm
Stirg – great point my brother. If its such a toss-up on D, then why not just punch the ticket and make our OFF in line to dominate, just can’t get my head around the Robinson trade, though. The only thing I can think of is that they must have their eyes on some guys in the middle rounds.
Reno 911
April 6th, 2009
7:23 pm
STIRG and his grandma make good points. I’m having trouble arguing with that logic, my friend…unless, of course, some team at the top of the second round was desperate for a player and wanted to trade their 2 and a 3 or 4 for our #1. But still, it’s tough to argue against. If the pick comes up at #24, and no one is offering anything good to get into that position, it may be best to take highest-rated player at a need spot, and Pettigrew might be that guy. I still think one of the TE’s in the 3rd might end up being just as good (Casey, Coffman, Ingram, etc.) It’s tough to take the first at a deep position, which TE is in this draft, when defense has so many needs.
Reno 911
April 6th, 2009
7:27 pm
D3- I, too, hope that TD has a couple of guys in mind that we will be able to get at the Rams’ spots that we wouldn’t otherwise have gotten a shot at. It’s always tough to feel good about a trade when you can’t see who it is you’ve gotten in return. There were high hopes for Robinson, but I guess they felt he wasn’t going to get on the field that much (or he wasn’t recovering like they thought he should have been). Tough to say.
Mike
April 6th, 2009
7:28 pm
I will start by apologizing for my political post; I normally try to refrain from such posts.
Ken, I think I was disappointed that you brought up politics in a football blog, because you normally are focused on the subject, and provide excellent insight. Not saying is was right for me to get off topic.
I do not think we should take Pettigrew in the first. We can get a tight end in the third or the fourth that will probably prove to be more value. One guy I like that a hve heard little or no mention of is Maybin out of PSU. I would love to have more of a pass rush from our linebackers than we do now. The Falcons tried blitzing the linebackers against Arizona. Brooking was to slow, and Boley seemed unable to shed blockers. Nicholas however did have some success. Maybin I think would add a much-needed dimension to our D. I do not think Jerry will still be there at 24, and I am not sure that there is another tackle that is worthy of a first round pick. Brace will possibly be hanging around in the 2nd, and so Marks and Maola should last until the 3rd. They could trade down and get some additional picks. Someone mentioned Michael Johnson, whom I think has the highest ceiling of any player in the draft. He also has the lowest floor. I think he is definitely a boom or bust, and feel the Falcons will go with a much safer pick. I like English at DE, but he has had some health issues. Hood has had issues as well staying healthy.
I do think in the division we are in it is important to have a good pass D…but we can not forget about C Williams and E Graham in Tampa.. D Williams and Stewart in Carolina. New Orleans should be the only team in the South without a balanced attack. I do not think we can put a priority on stopping the run or pass. I love Pitts D, but we do not have a Harrison, Foote, or Polamalu. We may grab one player in the draft who eventually performs at that level. I like Ken hope e bring in guys that contribute like last years class did. Even though it seems we lost a lot this year, we have a lot of young talent that has been developing and has shown a lot of promise. I have not been this excited about a draft since the 05 draft when I felt we were one to two pieces away from a Super Bowl.
I do not think Darius Butler is first round caliber at corner. He is small, and does not have the speed to make up for his size. I do like Davis and Jenkins, but think that they will be gone by time we pick at 24. I thnk D3 pointed out that Davis has some character issue, which would not be good at all for this tema. Especially with so many young guys and not a lot of veteran leaders. Lofton more than likely will assume the leadership role on our D and a second year guy in that position needs as few distractions as possible.
WR
April 6th, 2009
7:34 pm
D3, I agree, I know we are putting our trust in TD, and getting rid of long in the teeth veterans was part of it, but the Robinson trade seems a bit odd. We now have no receiver depth, except Finneran, he has been decent, but Robinson was a great young talent that went through the injury bug last year and I for one was expecting great things from him this year. He’s 6′2 and is speedy with nice playing making ability, beyond that, who do we turn to if Jenkins, Douglas, or White get hurt even if they are out only a couple of games we just don’t have any depth. For some reason I get the feeling that our receivers coach Terry Robiske son is on his way here which will use up one of our third round picks.
falcon21
April 6th, 2009
7:50 pm
Would the Falcons bring in a VET. at this point like T. Holt or has someone already picked him up???
Stirg d'Nahsif
April 6th, 2009
7:59 pm
D3. This is the first I’ve heard about Robinson. Maybe staff know something that we don’t. Did he have some outside-of-football issues? Was his injury more serious than revealed? Did the famous well-known-for-scouting TD discover a gem in later rounds, like a Massaquoi? Perhaps this is a signal that we’ll draft tight end at “24″. Now, I’m certain of it.
D. ORLANDO LEDBETTER
April 6th, 2009
8:07 pm
http://www.ajc.com/sports/content/sports/falcons/stories/2009/04/06/falcons_rams_trade.html
ROBINSON TRADE. Falcons move up 22 spots in 5th round and 20 in the Sixth.
D3
April 6th, 2009
8:22 pm
Stirg – does it signal that we’re going TE first or that we’re dropping deep in the draft to get some of the guys we’ve been talking about? Honestly, I have no idea now. The only thing that it signals to me is that they’ve done their homework and they have a few ‘gems’ they want to dig out. I was pretty shocked, to say the least, when I saw this trade come over the wires.
Falcon21 – I wouldn’t see us going after Holt because we have our top flight receivers in White and Jenkins, and I think Holt most likely will sign with Tennessee. Hopefully, DOL will have some more info. for us soon.
Mike – several great points. Jenkins is the only CB I would like for us to take in the first. Maybin would be an excellent choice, IMHO, but I don’t think he’ll be there when we pick, same goes for Jerry as you mentioned. With us trading Robinson, I would say that maybe they are planning to trade out of 1st and pick up additional picks. At least I hope so.
D3
April 6th, 2009
8:23 pm
For Robinson, we got to swap picks in the 5th and 6th? Don’t get it.
D3
April 6th, 2009
8:27 pm
Apologize if this is a repost. The blog has made my post disappear, like Percy Harvin’s draft status.
Stirg – does it signal that we’re going TE first or that we’re dropping deep in the draft to get some of the guys we’ve been talking about? Honestly, I have no idea now. The only thing that it signals to me is that they’ve done their homework and they have a few ‘gems’ they want to dig out. I was pretty shocked, to say the least, when I saw this trade come over the wires.
Falcon21 – I wouldn’t see us going after Holt because we have our top flight receivers in White and Jenkins, and I think Holt most likely will sign with Tennessee. Hopefully, DOL will have some more info. for us soon.
Mike – several great points. Jenkins is the only CB I would like for us to take in the first. Maybin would be an excellent choice, IMHO, but I don’t think he’ll be there when we pick, same goes for Jerry as you mentioned. With us trading Robinson, I would say that maybe they are planning to trade out of 1st and pick up additional picks. At least I hope so.
Stirg d'Nahsif
April 6th, 2009
8:57 pm
Yes, D3, I think we can pretty much count on it. This trade sort of solidifies my theory. Do y’all remember a couple of posts ago when I acted on Ken’s suggestion about the tight end spot and his recommendation of Cameron Morrah from University of California? I suggested that we can make our offense the most potent in the NFL by drafting Pettigrew in round one and Cameron Morrah in later rounds (most draft boards rank him 4-6 rounds). That way, we can play two tight end sets and leave the defense oblivious to our next move. With Jenkins, White, Turner, Pettigrew and (someone like) Morrah in the offense at the same time, there’s not one team that can defend us. Move the safeties up to stop the run and the receivers will burn you man-to-man. Take the safeties back to double cover, Turner will get ten yards before being touched. Need a hot route? No problem; you got two options at tight end, with very good hands. Oh my goodness, the options are endless. My point is this, though: I think that considering a double tight end set offense, not only supports the run (which we covet), it made L. Robinson expendable. We’re still left with four receivers (2 wide and 2 TEs) and two reserves (Douglas and Finneran). Its like addition by subtracting.
Count on it fellows. Pettigrew (or someone like him) will be drafted at “24″. TD disappointed a regiment of fans at the draft last year, by going offense over defense. Look forward to it, again, this year. Defense can come in later rounds, especially with the additions in rounds five and six.
cutter
April 6th, 2009
9:12 pm
Looks like we just gave away a good talent for little or nothing, I could see maybe a swap in third or fourth. So now we’ve got the 2nd and the 7th pick in the 5th round and the 3rd pick in the 6th. Tough call we obviously did’nt miss him last year and now Douglas is on board, kinda want to think there was an issue with character or something… the kid did look fragile.
Boxcarar
April 6th, 2009
9:21 pm
Could TD be enhancing later round picks to package for trade purposes? I have really enjoyed these draft blogs and appreciate all of you guys great insight.
The Dean 21
April 6th, 2009
9:22 pm
I don’t think trading L.Robinson is an issue because: 1.) He has yet to complete a full season. 2.) H.Douglas improvement came quicker than expected. 3.) TD has decided to get another type receiver to compliment Roddy & Jenk. I for one like the move, this gives us more options in trading out of the first round to gain more picks. The biggest question that everyone seems to have is will TD go offensive or defensive with their first pick? Stay tuned for more. DOL: Any wide receiver visits scheduled for the Falcons?
south ga boy
April 6th, 2009
9:28 pm
guys, c’mon. i like robinson but he was not gonna play. 2 solid starters(roddy & jenk), douglas in the slot, & brian as the 3rd down possession rec. where is robinson gonna play. douglas would be the starter if roddy or jenk went down, & you can always pick up an older rec during the year that has been cut, if a starter went out for the yr. due to an injury. what did we pick up, r u kidding me. we moved up 20 spots in the 4th and 5th rd, not the 5th & 6th, so its like an end of the 3rd & 4th. that player could add depth on the o-line, lb, or dt. tranlation be able to make a contribution. we have been to heavy(numbers wise) at the skill pos., gotta add depth and potential starters on the off & def line
Freddy
April 6th, 2009
9:56 pm
I do like this trade, We just moved up 22 spots in the 5th, practically making it a 4th round pick and the 6th round moved up 20 spots, practicaly making it a 5th round. TD, know’s what he is doing. I do think if Pettigrew is available you can count on him being a falcon at 24, he Is top talent and it is a need of ours, but I think he is building our trade value with that second 5th round pick to maybe move up in the second or third. Laurent wasn’t gonna see any playing time, he was frequently injured, and Harry will fill in as the third option with the New Tight end being a big part of the Offense, and then Finneran will be our 5th receiving option. Not a bad option. Then with our second and third round picks you can count on a DT, and Linebacker. With our Fourth round pick a DB. With our TWO fith round picks which one is Almost a fourth round, I wouldn’t expect to hold onto both, I bet we package these to move gain a extra 3 round pick for a Safety..
If someone grabs Pettigrew earlier, I would expect to see a USC linebacker, and Tight end picked in the 3rd round.
But as every expert has said, If Pettigrew is there at 24, You can’t pass him up, it will make the Atlanta Falcons offense, one of the most potent in the league! TD will find the talent in the other rounds. Don’t forget we have our two corners, Houston and Chevis Jackson will win the spot, remember he had as many or more interceptions than Houston and he only played in the Dime or nickel packages.. Don’t plan on any corners in early rounds..
Go Falcons! Everyone don’t be upset with Pettigrew, I bet you will screaming for him as he is going into the end Zone every Sunday!
cutter
April 6th, 2009
10:30 pm
did we move up in the fourth and fifth or fifth and sixth?
Nookah
April 6th, 2009
11:01 pm
Man, it sure is nice to read the comments from all of our fellow Falcon fans. I am just salivating, and endorsing what Ken said in an earlier post (paraphrasing)…can you imagine what these blogs are going to be like during and after the draft? D LED I hope the AJC can take it. In a couple of weeks you are about to have a _LOG JAM!!!!
MIKE, interesting comments and I think you are bang on. However, I think the ‘aints may be looking at Beenie Wells. Remember they released Deuce and they need that bruising back to survive in this division even though we know Sean Payton never saw a pass play he could pass on (pardon my pun). Payton also knows that to win in this league you have to have balance.
The NFC South has some strong, fast and physical receivers who we will meet 2x per year. We will need some speed in the secondary, although I understand the concept of more pressure on the QB resulting in less pressure on the secondary. So the idea of selecting Vontae Davis might not be a bad one assuming his attitude is right. I leave that assessment to the Dynamic Duo.
WR, as I saw the trade I too had the same thoughts about Robiskie. However, this is also telling me that the Dynamic Duo have spotted something lower down that they think they cannot pass on. After looking at this Robinson trade, I think our duo have decided that they need a real deep threat to spread the defense.
Meet Mike Wallace, 6-1, 199; 4.28 – 40; vertical – 40″. The skinny – has big time speed and return ability. He is an absolute burner, one of the fastest players in the draft.
Weaknesses – Not polished as a receiver. Is a bit of a project.
Isn’t it fun to watch the fluidity of ideas as new information comes out. This is so much fun.
Go Falcons!!!!
Nuff respect everytime!!!
Stirg d'Nahsif
April 6th, 2009
11:23 pm
I think we all can agree that our defense needs help. I don’t think that the need is as critical as most people have suggested (Houston and Jackson are great corners for our system and DeCoud possess what the staff is looking for) but we can definetly use a DT and OLB. In saying that, I believe that our needs, defensively, can be achieved in later rounds.
I think I have discovered a solution to answer our defensive shortcomings, if our needs are not successfully filled in the draft. We should just, simply, keep the defense off the field. I’ve asked these questions before: How do you keep your defense off the field? Dominate the clock. How can we dominate the clock? Draft Pettigrew and Morrah.
Last season (2008), Atlanta was ranked #13, in the league, in Time of Possession, averaging a time of 30:49. That leaves opponents just over 29 minutes of offensive football. If we can add, maybe, five minutes to our time of possession, that means our defense only has to work 24 minutes every Sunday. Still not convinced? Consider this: Baltimore ranked number one in the league with Time of Possession, at 33:10. Their number one tight end is two-time Pro Bowler Todd Heap. He’s their franchise leader in receptions and he holds the record for most receiving two-point conversions in a single season. With sure-handed Heap at the helm, guess who the Ravens go out and get through free agency this year? L.J. Smith. Now, after being the number one team in the NFL with Time of Possesion and with a two-time pro bowler at tight end, why go and get the pass catching tight end, that even we coveted? That’s because they plan to increase their time on the clock with double tight end sets. Imagine defending this firepower: Willis McGahee (RB), Mark Clayton & Derrick Mason (WR) and Todd Heap & L.J. Smith (TE). With Flaco as the passer, who can guess what that offense will do next? No one can. I can almost guarantee that Baltimore will be one of the league’s leader in Time of Possession, again, next year. That will leave their defense, with needs, on the bench most of the game.
Atlanta will follow suit and draft, not only one, two tight ends in this years draft. Pettigrew will go at “24″. We’ll play with DT, LB or may even trade our, now, many picks to move up. Good tight ends, particularly Morrah, will be available deep into the draft. With that line-up (Jenkins, White, Turner, Pettigrew and a Morrah), no one can stop us and we’ll probably lead the league in possession.
I rest my case.
Ken Strickland
April 6th, 2009
11:25 pm
There are several reasons for trading WR LRobinson.
(1)If he had remained and made the team, it might have cost WR BFinnerin his job.
(2)With Probowl WR RWhite, 3rd dn and special teams ace BFinneran, the emergence of MJenkins and HDouglas and the return of RB TBrown, LRobinson became expendable. The return of RB TBrown frees both JNorwood and HDouglas of their special team responsibilities.
(3)It appears TD and Smith have targeted certain players they want in the 5th and 6th rds, and this trade allows us to move up in both rds with just one move.
(4)It’s highly likely his injury problems played a major factor in their decision to trade him.
(5)Both HDouglas and BFinneran were more versatile than LRobinson, especially as special team performers.
We have only one position of need that can’t be effectively filled by someone on our current roster, and that positon is TE. MPeterson, SNicholas, CWire and RJames have OLB covered. EColeman, JFudge, TDeCloud, EBrock and AHarris have the safety positions covered and CHouston, BGrimes, VHutchins, DIrons and CJackson have DB covered. The return of DT TLewis gives us an upgrade at DT. The rating our staff gives to these players will play a major role in deciding what position we select with our #24 pick. It’s time for the 06, 07 and 08 draftees to step up and take over the vacated positions. Basically, we’re looking for 09 draftees that can come in and challenge the incumbents, but most will ultimately provide depth as backups.
Stirg d'Nahsif
April 6th, 2009
11:30 pm
I forgot to mention something. The teams that ranked worst in Time of Possession last year were Seattle, Detroit, Cleveland and Kansas City. Need I say more?
Ken Strickland
April 6th, 2009
11:33 pm
Oh, I forgot the add reason #6. With the drafting of a pass receiving TE, there will be less need for an additional WR.
Stirg d'Nahsif
April 6th, 2009
11:48 pm
My final mock draft, considering no more pre-draft transactions:
round 1 Pettigrew
round 2 Ron Brace (or best DT available)
round 3 Clint Sintim or Tyrone McKenzie
round 4 Cameron Morrah
round 5 Nic Harris
round 5 Sammie Lee Hill
round 6 ???
Stirg d'Nahsif
April 6th, 2009
11:54 pm
Maybe I should flip Morrah and Harris (I don’t think Nic Harris will last to round five):
round 1 Pettigrew
round 2 Ron Brace (or best DT available)
round 3 Clint Sintim or Tyrone McKenzie
round 4 Nic Harris
round 5 Cameron Morrah
round 5 Sammie Lee Hill
round 6 ???
I cannot believe I have learned these names by heart. I didn’t even have to google these names. That means I have been spending too much time studying and researching for this draft. I’ll be glad when this is over.
Stirg d'Nahsif
April 7th, 2009
12:20 am
Just discovered something new. New Orleans was the number one team in the NFL with Total Offense, last year. Isn’t it ironic that their tight ends, Billy Miller and Jeremy Shockey, both ranked in the top fifteen of tight ends with the most receiving yards (579 and 483 yards, respectively)? Denver and Miami also ranked high with Total Offense and Time of Possession. The irony with those two teams is that they both possess two tight ends, each, that averaged over 13 yards per catch and ranked high with most receiving yards. It seems to me that the teams that carried two pass-catching tight ends (that can also block), dominate most of the clock. Those same teams (Saints, Broncos and Dolphins) also had holes in their respective defenses.
Pettigrew and Morrah (Yes, I’m back on that again; and considering I just finished my fourth Red Stripe, I’m going to be on it for the rest of the night). Intermission.
Stirg d'Nahsif
April 7th, 2009
12:34 am
…back. I just thought about the offensive powerhouse, that I mentioned earlier, in Baltimore (I’m trying to get y’all to feel me).
Willis McGahee (and he’s their second RB), Mark Clayton & Derrick Mason (WR) and Todd Heap & L.J. Smith (TE). Can anyone tell me what team is going to be able to stop Baltimore with that offense?
Stirg d'Nahsif
April 7th, 2009
12:52 am
For you UGA guys, does anyone know the rap on Dannell Ellerbe? Does he fit the “hybrid” OLB that TD and Coach are looking for? His he round 3 draft material? I’m thinking about replacing Clint Sintim with Dannell Ellerbe in my mock draft.
Stirg d'Nahsif
April 7th, 2009
1:40 am
one more thing, fellows, and I’m going to give up my two-tight end campaign. Last year, Atlanta ranked in the top ten of Total Offense, in the NFL. That, my friends, was accomplished with no tight end contribution. Can y’all imagine if we were playing with Pettigrew, Morrah, White, Jenkins and Turner (backed up by Finneran, Douglas, Norwood and Peele)? On top of that, your only worry next season is to re-sign Roddy White. Its no surprise that a tight end holds the record for most receiving two-point conversions in a single season, with four (Todd Heap, 2003, Baltimore) and that is where Falcons suffer the most. It broke my heart to marchh down into the red zone and come up with three or no points. Pettigrew “24″, Morrah, Jenkins, White and Turner; what a lethal offense.
tyger
April 7th, 2009
3:09 am
Falcons on the move…
Last week, Ray Maualuga, this week L. Robinson; Falcons are acquiring the chips they need to move up. Today’s transaction potentially gives them the flexibility to move into the 14-19 range and grab a starter.
Falcons demonstrated last year that they are not afraid to go after a player they want. Remember, they moved up to get Sam Baker, a player they could’ve gotten later, but instead zeroed in and pulled the trigger. Why would it be any different this year?
Falcons could either move up with their enhanced positioning or they could frugally move down to the top of the second round or third, where I believe this draft will be made. Also, consider the Falcoons had 6 picks in the 1st 3 rds. grabbing Ryan, Baker, Lofton, Douglass, DeCoud, Jackson. Three starters and three on the cusp. They believe in building through the draft and the players are at the top, not the bottom.
This draft is loaded in rds. 2/3 and the Falcons would be wise to move back, but not too far. Last year, the 5th produced but the 7th pick didnt make the cut. So, don’t count on the back end producing too many keepers.
I also think the Falcons are getting bites on M. Vick, who still threw 20 TDs vs. 13 ints. for 2,500 yards and ran for another 1,000 without M.Turner or the current Roddy White-M. Jenkins of today. Not to digress, but Emmitt Thomas was 2-1 as Head Coach and Chris Redman put up 40 points once they had a week to practice, so don’t give me that boy wonder crap, the Falcons were never that bad in the first place. (see Petrino, Hall, Harrington, Vick)
Vick’s settlement with the Falcons, Dept. of Labor, IRS and just about anyone else who accepted his checks makes amends, it also means he’s willing to play ball. At the end of the day, football people will make football decisions and gentlemen there’s a Pro Bowl QB on the board.
If you are a SF, Det, Tampa, Denver, Jax etc. and still sizzling from being burned by taking that QB #1 before, right now, you owe it to your fans to at least inquire into the possibility of immediately taking your franchise to the next level.
Let the football people make football decisions and the PR folks handle the PR. At the end of the day, if you aint winning, you losing.
Also note, at every Redskins game there are organized Native American protesters and guess what? Nobody gives a flying f….., you would never know they were there until you walk by them at the gate. It’ll be the same for Vick too, initially PETA will get their 15 min.; but as time passes and wins accumulate and momentum builds; the winning will overtake the hate and it too will pass.
richbrave
April 7th, 2009
8:07 am
TT44:
I would point out that VA. TECH is NOT VA. intoto. AL GROH has turned out some pretty dammed good ball-players, and at least one RICHMOND player is on an NFL roster every year. DARREN SHARPER from WILLIAM & MARY, HEATH MILLER, D. FERGUSON, TIM HIGHTOWER come immediately to mind. VA. TECH runs a system, and the players FRANK BEAMER picks are often great in that system, but not necessarily in the NFL. That’s why I say, IN GENERAL, stay away from USC players. Same with PETE CARROLL. There are exceptions of course.
richbrave
April 7th, 2009
8:12 am
STIRG:
I would remind you once again about GREG TOLER from ST. PAULS COLLEGE, CB 5′11″ 191, 4.27 personal best in the 40. Consistant 4.40 times. A great pick for #6.
Stirg d'Nahsif
April 7th, 2009
8:18 am
richbrave, what is the skinny on this guy, Toler, and what round do you mock him?
JJ
April 7th, 2009
9:41 am
Stirg: I see you’ve come full circle, again! You even have coach ken on board. Good premise with solid facts to back it up, good job! Those jamaican hop’s are working.
I will be happy with pettigrew or nelson for TE. Still would love Brace and Chung, but I trust the “brain train” has plenty of DT, LB, AND S/DB in the later rounds. That’s why “after the draft”, we’ll love these picks for Robinson. Keep up the great work guys! “Jonesen” for some Red Stripe after work now! lol
richbrave
April 7th, 2009
10:52 am
STIRG:
Well, the FALCONS just moved way up in the 6th with the ROBINSON trade. Did they give up their own 5th and 6th? If so I would say 7th. If not them their own 6th pick, but if you wait and hope he’s not in the draft, I think you’re a GM whistling in the dark. I put him 6th or 7th based upon the interest since he was in the U of R combine day here last month. At least three teams have had him in for personal workouts including the REDSKINS who first turned him up, the JETS, and the RAVENS. He’s raw and older, but has the aptitude to have a good career in the NFL with some longevity certainly as a nickel or dime back. With the NFL offensive spreads coming into vogue, a 5th or 6th D-back who brings it is golden today. I have been watching him for some time (three years). His coach WILLIARD BAILEY was a student of mine once and I’ve followed ST. PAULS and BAILEY’s coaching career since his days at UNION, the first time (he had a brief reprise before going to LAWRENCEVILLE). I think TOLER’s the real deal, and his third year in he’ll be a fixture in the five back sets.
Roddy White
April 7th, 2009
11:15 am
Why isn’t everyone making a huge deal out of my (quiet) contract holdout right now? Shouldn’t this be a major news story?
Roddy White
April 7th, 2009
11:17 am
Why isn’t everyone making a huge deal of my (quiet) contract holdout? Shouldn’t this be a major news story?
richbrave
April 7th, 2009
11:25 am
STIRG:
Evidently I can’t. My detailed post has been removed. I rate him late 6th or 7th.
richbrave
April 7th, 2009
11:28 am
WTF. Now my 10:52 shows up. My computor must be messed up.
richbrave
April 7th, 2009
11:39 am
Like D. ORLANDO, I picked SINTIM, but to the REDSKINS rather than the FALCONS. That would require a trade down however, and who knows whether that will happen until the #13 pick on day one. I like the looks of LEWIS, OG from TENNESSEE TECH too, but really only know what I’ve read. SINTIM I’ve seen a few times over his UVA career. He didn’t really excite me much until this year. Seems to have stepped it up, but the defense might have been geared to flow the offense to him who knows. Not inside AL GROH’s program.
D3
April 7th, 2009
12:00 pm
Good Early P.M. gents. What’s with this d@mn weather for chrissakes? I guess the more I look at the trade the more it makes sense, but its just tough giving up a relatively promising WR for no tangible players as of yet. This definitely tells me that TD, Smitty, & Co. have done their homework and are looking to stack the roster with tons of draft picks. Man, am I stoked to this draft here already. The draft is always one of my favorite events of the year, but this year is going to be the best to date. I usually know most of the first and second round candidates, but discussing the draft with you Falcon Faithful has enlightened me to no end. I mean looking at 5th and 6th round candidates? Rock.
Stirg – nice Pettigrew argument. I may have come back around to it as well. He’s still the most popular pick for most mock drafts. And to those that think he won’t be there @ #24, I will have to disagree. I’ve even seen some mocks having him drop out of the first round. I don’t know about the Cameron Morrah argument though. I can see that it has merit, but couldn’t they use those sets with Hartsock or Peele? I don’t think most teams carry more than 3 TE’s on their active roster. Just playing a little devils advocate.
DOL – ’bout time for a new blog post, eh? Maybe something on the Robinson trade and what later round candidates we like, say that our 5th and 6th swaps might merit? Just food for thought. BTW, Red Stripe is the S—! Did you happen to know they make a Red Stripe Light? But only saw it in Jamaica on our honeymoon. Crazy weird, right?
Cutter – don’t know about character with Robinson, but it seems like there may have been a small issue with him being demoted or something after he got hurt. Nothing substantial, though.
The Dean & South GA – good points on the trade. Assuming B.Finn can stay injury-free we’ll be fine. But I suspect we will add at least one more WR in the draft.
Freddy – I definitely won’t be upset with Pettigrew, in fact I’ll be ecstatic. There’s no such thing as a lock that deep into the draft, but I think Pettigrew would lock our OFF into overdrive. I, too, want us to get Cushing or Matthews if he’s gone. Jerry will be gone, and I’m just not sold on Ziggy Hood as a first rounder. Rather have someone like Ron Brace, Chris Baker, or Sammie Hill(big boys).
Coach Ken – good points on B.Finn & HD being extremely versatile on Spec-Teams. Can’t wait for the return of TBrown. The guy was an absolute stud @ UGA. And a great character, leader guy at that.
Nookah – nice pick in Wallace. Gotta love that speed and I remember him playing @ Ole Miss. He tore up Florida in their only loss if I do recall. Here’s another one to take a look at: Louis Murphy from Florida, 6′2, 203, 4.43. Might be gone too early for us, though.
Another shameless plug for one my Bulldogs: the trade of Robinson clears the way for WR Mohammed Massaquoi, baby! And we could grab him in the 5th or so I think, maybe 4th which we probably wouldn’t want to spend, but hey everybody can dream a little, right? His 40 time is a little slow, but he would be a great compliment to our current receivers. I assume we’ll carry at least 5 WR’s.
Another quick food for thought: TBrown could play a little 5th receiver slot, because he was great out of the backfield @ UGA.
newkid
April 7th, 2009
12:22 pm
If Knowshown Moreno’s falling stock renders him available at #24, the Browns might be interested in a swap of Falcons #24 and the 6th round pick for their picks at #36 & #50. Browns badly need a fresh young running back, but their #4 is far too high for Moreno. With #36, #50, and #55, a TE upgrade (e.g., Shawn Nelson) and two ‘immediate help’ defensive pieces could be had. Not sure how much real difference there is between Pettigrew and Nelson.
griffdawg1
April 7th, 2009
12:33 pm
can you say, “AJC sportswriters are morons”!!! DT or hardhitting Safty is what the falcons will be looking at.People get wrapped up in 1st rounders and forget how many really good linebackers are there.Orlando, if you want Sintim, he’ll be there in the third or fourth round you can bet on it!!!I,d rather see the falcons take Patrick Chung although he may be there in the second round. Might be best to take 1.) DT 2.)Safety 3.)linebacker.
griffdawg1
April 7th, 2009
12:35 pm
All that unless Pettigrew is available at 24!!
cutter
April 7th, 2009
12:44 pm
Thats two players from the 07 draft, Martrez Milner TE and Robinson(3rd and 4th round picks). I think Finn is a stop gap at best. 169 yds rec, 5 yds on KR and 2 yds on PR and a costly fumble ain’t quite the SP ace we need. He’s 32 and this is the last year of his contract he has been inactive since 05 with injuries and if he played anywhere else he would have been cut a long time ago. There was something about Robinson Smith or TD did not care for. IMO
Falcon Devil
April 7th, 2009
12:47 pm
If we don’t resign Roddy this Robinson trade will be a HUGE mistake. Didn’t we draft him in the second round? With a few years under his belt and assuming he is healthy I question this trade. While we are stocked at WR moving up in the 5th and 6th isn’t worth it to me. IF we resign Roddy I’ll shutup but if next year Mich Jenkins is our No. 1 I will flip out. Robinson has a Larry Fitz body with alot of potential. I am not on board with this one. How many years does Finneran have left in him assuming his knee doesn’t blowout in pre-season?
cutter
April 7th, 2009
12:51 pm
Conclusion – I doubt they traded Robinson to keep a roster spot for Finneran. Getting rid of Weems would have taken care of that. How do you target a guy as late as the 5th or 6th round? Is he a secret? We don’t know what’s gonna happen in the 1st round so how can you target a guy 100 plus picks later. Everybody is looking for the gem in the later rounds I do believe.
Ken Strickland
April 7th, 2009
1:11 pm
RICHBRAVE-we didn’t gain or lose any draft picks in the trade, we just swapped positions. We didn’t trade WR LRobinson just to get rid of him. He was traded because TD and Smitty wanted to position themselves to draft specific/targeted players in the 5th and 6th rds. Our ability to draft these targeted 5th and 6th rd players will likely influence who we target in rds 1 through 4.
it’s so good to see so many Falcon fans as over the top as I am about the team. I can really appreciate and embrace the current attitude and atmosphere that’s taken over the current Falcon blogs, especially after all of the negative and racially motivated crap that frequented these blogs over the previous 2 yrs. THANKS ORLANDO LEDBETTER FOR YOUR EFFORTS IN THE CLEANUP.
cutter
April 7th, 2009
1:14 pm
I think this trade will be used later to move us up in the second or third round or maybe even to get an additional pick in the third.
darrell starks
April 7th, 2009
1:15 pm
Are you kidding me TD what in the H are you doing you traded a promising WR who is probably your second best WR on your team to move up a couple of spots in the 5th round come on TD the ICE MAN need all his weapons this is and awful trade. GO FALCONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Stirg d'Nahsif
April 7th, 2009
1:23 pm
D3, I can go with that. A Peele and Pettigrew tandem would be as effective as Pettigrew and another rookie (I just think that Pettigrew is so NFL-ready). I threw (someone like) Morrah in the mix because the one thing better than a pass-catching threat at tight end, is TWO pass-catching threats at tight end. Justin Peele might be a better option than a rookie tight end because he’s already familiar with the offense and he can groom the new man on the block. You made a valid point about teams not carrying three tight ends. I don’t think Mularkey’s scheme has a big need for it. Therefore, getting two tight ends in the draft is a stretch; but you can surely count on Pettigrew at “24″.
Reno 911
April 7th, 2009
1:36 pm
STIRG- you were tearin it up last night, man. Like I said before, I can’t argue with your logic. Time of possession is a killer, and having big TE’s with good hands that can make tough catches in traffic are all too valuable. That said, though, I still can’t see the Falcons putting more than two picks on offense, and I feel like one of those needs to be an OT. Maybe I’m too conventional, but looking at the schedule next year, I feel like a solid front 7 with some heavies up front has got to be the priority…and while I am hopeful about the much hyped (perhaps overhyped?) return of Trey Lewis, I am skeptical about the front-7’s ability to withstand the pounding that will come at the hands of the schedule that lays ahead: Giants, Dolphins, Cowboys, Patriots, Panthers x2. If we don’t have some beef up front, those teams will dominate the LOS, I fear. Shoot, maybe there will be just the players we need at the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th picks (DT, OLB, maybe DE), but I’m not sure if the Falcons can run that risk. When’s the draft, again? Good times, man.
Cameron
April 7th, 2009
1:39 pm
Stirg:
Two pass catching TEs is great, but that means you have to take pass-catching WRs off of the field. Or RBs. I would rather have Roddy White, Michael Jenkins, or Harry Douglas on the field to catch passes than Pettigrew or Peele.
Why did the Falcons trade a 3rd round WR for just about nothing? We moved up 20 spots in the fifth and sixth rounds. Probably not going to get starters in the fifth or sixth rounds. Robinson isn’t a full-time starter, but he could fill-in for an injured starter. He also is another deep threat that could have been developed.
cutter
April 7th, 2009
1:52 pm
I think you set yourself up for to much scrutiny down the road if you have the 6th rank offense and the 24th rank defense and you use the 1st pick on offense, we need and want a TE obviously but if this defense is ranked anywhere close to 24th next year with Pettigrew on board and we lose the season on defense like last year, that would be UGLY.
Reno 911
April 7th, 2009
2:03 pm
Which numbers would you like to see more:
A TE with 9 catches for 92 yards, while your defense gives up 230 yards on the ground…or a TE with 4 catches for 40 yards, with a defense that held the opponent to 175 yards on the ground.
Not saying there’s one special defender out there who can make that much of a difference (not who’ll be available at #24, at least), but I do feel like the TE class is deep enough to allow a good pass-catching TE to be found in the 3rd round (Coffman/Casey/Ingram). I’d rather have Cushing/Matthews or Jerry at 1 and Brace/Moala or Barwin/Sintim at 2. When it comes to picking up bulk in the later rounds, don’t forget about Roy Miller, DT, Texas. Ran pretty well for a big guy (4.9 at 312 lbs), and will probably be there in the 4th.
Nookah
April 7th, 2009
2:44 pm
STIRG, I have a new found respect for you mi breddren!!! Red Stripe inna di nite? Ah cudda wha suh!!!! Best beer, yuh dunn kno’!!! (Just a little local lingo for the yardies – nuff respect!!). I trust you were only have the “liquid export” and not mixing it with the “agricultural export”. (just saying)
I hear your argument about 2 TE’s but as someone mentioned before, I think Pettigrew and Morrah may be just as effective as Pettigrew/Peele, and furthermore Peele knows the system. I like Morrah but I’m not sure we’ll spend 2 picks on offense unless for some unknown reason a marquee offensive player falls to us. One thing’s for sure you may have convinced me about TE at #24.
I am also wary (in a good way) of the Dynamic Duo. I am not sure they are done dealing. These moves are indicating to me that they are using this draft to concentrate on quality and not quantity personnel and improving the depth on this roster. As Ken keeps reminding us, any of the players that are drafted will certainly improve our team considerably. Even if they are not immediate starters they will have an impact on the depth of our team. If we are using the NE model, you know it’s a “process” for the long haul. Each decision is not only for filling a position of need today, but it is a decision that will impact the future and contribute to a winning product for a number of years.
D3, thanks for the comment. I also looked at your guy Louis Murphy. Also has excellent speed and size. He may have been overshadowed by Percy Harvin. Could he be the diamond in the rough? Sometimes these guys can be sleepers especially when there is another guy in the program who gets more attention. Massaquoi is an intersting prospect. Not a burner but runs excellent routes. 6-2, 210, runs a 4.5-4.6 40 dash; 36 1/2 vertical. He is very durable and has a terrific character. However, I think we can get better value elsewhere but interesting. Just my opinion.
Keep the banter going Falcon fans. This is so intriguing. Go Falcons!!!
Nuff respect everytime!!!!
Falcon Devil
April 7th, 2009
4:11 pm
I’ve watched enough UGA games to know Massaquoi drops 50% of the important balls that go his way. Trading Robinson should really indicate we will not be picking up any WR’s this draft.
The Dean 21
April 7th, 2009
4:32 pm
Ken, you are correct; it is refreshing to talk Falcons football and not the negative blogging in the past. We all should thank DOL for that. It looks like TD and smitty have created a master plan that has confused us all and possibly other coaches & GM’s. One could guess on a 1st round tight end, but could also argue on a first round DE. It appears one thing for sure; the Falcons will either trade the 24th pick or select the best player available for their needs.
I surely can’t argue with this young football genius who has made him self look real good in selecting draft picks. I suggest that we continue our opinions and see who comes close to TD on draft day! Good Luck Falcon Fans! BTW, on the schedule next year, I think the Falcons can and will complete another winning season! GO FALCONS!!
The Dean 21
April 7th, 2009
4:40 pm
On the L. Robinson trade, this guy just was not in the Falcons current and future plans. The Dean was thinking that he was going to be released this year, so why not get some value for him now. This will be move you all will appreciate come draft day. TD & smitty knows what they are doing and must have some key situational players in mind.
I also agree with Stirg on the possible tight end sets, I think Peele & the new tight end will fit that scheme very well, if it’s Pettigrew, then that will no doubt make the Falcons offense more potent than ever. The defense will get handled, trust me Coach Smitty is a defensive coach and he will improve this unit.
Stirg d'Nahsif
April 7th, 2009
5:00 pm
Reno 911, I was tearin’ it up lastnight, yeah, but them Red Stripes were somethin’ serious. I agree with you; I hope the Falcons spend, at least, one pick on the offensive line. You’re right, we’ll need it in the long run.
Cameron, we did take a pass catching receiver off the field; we got rid of Robinson. Remember? A two-tight end set does not mean you have to play with a fullback and does not mean you have to play with one wide receiver. We played with a lone backfield for years. Remember William Andrews and Gerald Riggs? I remember when Dan Reeves even used our tight end as a fullback, for the entire season (Koslowski, I believe). There may even be a time when an empty backfield is necessary. The point is, the options are endless with a two-tight end set. I’m not talking about running a two-tight end set all the time. Its just nice to have options. We needed options, last year, down in the red zone. Why were we passing on third and goal at the one yard line? Having tight ends bunched in will allow your big back to pound it in the end zone; but, imagine the options to pass if we cannot run it in.
Booyaka! Booyaka! Nookah, much respect! All di while mi drink Red Stripe, a true. All fruits ripe, yeah. Bredda. “agricultural export”? lol, funny. I can tell, you’re a bowl of fun. I admit, it was kind of a far fetch to sound off about two tight ends in the draft (hell, one is even a stretch) but I’m glad to know that my explantation was convincing enough to change your mind.
I’m telling you, bretheren, Pettigrew is the real deal. Reno 911 implied that this draft is deep with tight ends (he compared a 9-catches-for-92-yards tight end vs. a 4-catches-for-40-yards tight end). The point is, Reno 911, Pettigrew offers much more than just catching the pass. He prides himself with blocking.
I discovered this mock draft, dated January 16, 2009. The scouting report, conducted by Craig Jacobin (I have no idea who that is), suggests that Pettigrew is the perfect fit for the Falcons, despite our needs on defense. Read the report:
The Falcons will continue to build around their budding young QB by giving him another toy to play with at the TE position. Of the two first round TE’s, Pettigrew’s the guy who can serve as an extra power blocker, while making the occasional catch underneath when nobody’s open downfield. Pettigrew is a great blocker and has solid hands–it’s his speed that is the issue. But ATL doesn’t really need a speed guy—they need a mauler who can help clear holes for RB Michael Turner.
I was reading an article lastnight were Oklahoma State’s Defensive Coach recalled when Pettigrew came over to him during a game and said “Coach, lets run to my side…I got a good block.” The Coach remembered thinking to himself, “here’s a guy that is not even concerned about his personal stats in receiving and yardage. Instead, he just wants to win.”
I rest my case, again!
Nookah
April 7th, 2009
5:08 pm
Nuff said Stirg. You the man!! Long time I haven’t heard that…..booyakah!!!!??? Home sick now!!! lol
Go Falcons!!
Nuff respect everytime!!