Bourn back to Braves? Rumor mill gets a spin

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brian

January 9th, 2013
5:53 pm

I agree Jeff R.

You cannot use bad behavior to justify other examples of bad behavior

ChattTownBrian

January 9th, 2013
5:57 pm

I think JHey will put up better numbers across the board than the projections listed in this blog. I would day Upton and Uggla’s numbers are probably close to right. I would give Prado a few more homeruns than 11 and I doubt Simmons will hit .290 and OBP .350. From what I’ve seen he’s a pretty wild hacker and I don’t see that improving over an offseason.

Medlen is good, but imo not 2.94 ERA over a full season as a SP, good.

Got to give Minor more credit than 11-10, 3.76. The W/L record might not be far off, but he improved enough in my eyes last year that I can see him having an ERA in the 3.4 range. He will be a standout for the Braves this season.

Mikega1965

January 9th, 2013
5:57 pm

Jeff R

January 9th, 2013
6:00 pm

I do not feel comfortable saying Gaylord Perry’s form of cheating was better or worse or more moral or less moral than Barry Bonds’s form of cheating.

I do. Perry altered the ball not his body, and the effect of altering one’s body through PEDs more greatly influences performance than throwing spitters. Perry’s annual numbers, though mostly solid to outstanding, were never off the charts like Bond’s numbers.

And not incidentally, when Perry was caught throwing spitters, he was tossed from games (and, I think, fined). Was the penalty sufficient for repeated offenses? No, I don’t think so. Suspensions and stiff fines might have better worked with Perry.

ChattTownBrian

January 9th, 2013
6:06 pm

I’m a little worried about our starting pitching for this year. I know Medlen will be good and I mentioned Minor, but Hudson is another year older and his health seems to be in question every year the last few. Maholm is just a 5 guy that eats innings and gives up a lot of homeruns. Teheran and Delgado you just don’t know. Safe to say that I think Beachy will be very welcomed back in July, or whenever he’s supposed to return.

brian

January 9th, 2013
6:06 pm

CTB – even if the projections are accurate, we look pretty good in our lineup and rotation. Still need to decide LF though

ChattTownBrian

January 9th, 2013
6:19 pm

brian, I’m not worried about our lineup even if they decide to go with Gattis and Constanza for LF. The rotation had me thinking a little worried.

No. 1 Braves Fan

January 9th, 2013
6:26 pm

I graduated from pharmacy school with a BS in1963 and was licensed in that year. I held a valid licence until 2010. I legally dispensed both amphetamines and anabolic (tissue building) steriods routinely during the years I was actively practicing in retail pharmacy. The availability of both classes of drugs via prescribing physicians was
never questioned unless a given prescriber was determined to be abusing his/her
license to dispense these drugs by the authorities. My point is fter they were deemed to be illegal for use by the sports world, they were and still are legal for the general public as long as they are obtained with a valid prescription from a licensed physician.
However, the number of prescriptions written for amphetamines today is negliable compared to the amount that were prescribed in the 1960-1990 period because of abuse and misuse.

ncgary

January 9th, 2013
6:34 pm

my bags are packed and i’m ready to leave
my doctor gave me good news today said sahe still thinks i have a yeagr before i will have to make the trachotomy choice.

sure hope shes right……..lol

well lets all go to narlins then the carribean

chipl1960

January 9th, 2013
6:44 pm

good news gary. Have a great trip and enjoy your family. Keep the positive attitude. It goes along way and is as valuable as medicene itself.

raleighbravefan

January 9th, 2013
6:46 pm

Biggio was a 7 time allstar, and excelled at 3 positions, in addition to being a great hitter. Also great intangibles.

BTW, I am pretty sure Gaylord was only kicked out of 1 game, and that late in his career.

Nowhere man

January 9th, 2013
7:03 pm

Good news ncgary. Keep on rolling. Have a great trip.

Billy Walsh

January 9th, 2013
7:05 pm

I wouldn’t call Biggio a great hitter nor do I think he is hall worthy. Hitting 300 4 times and being a career 280 hitter is solid but not great. I understand that he has 3000 hits but I don’t think that should be the end all argument on why a guy should be put in the hall.

Billy Walsh

January 9th, 2013
7:05 pm

I wouldn’t call Biggio a great hitter nor do I think he is hall worthy. Hitting 300 4 times and being a career 280 hitter is solid but not great. I understand that he has 3000 hits but I don’t think that should be the end all argument on why a guy should be put in the hall.

Brava

January 9th, 2013
7:05 pm

ncgary, have a wonderful trip!

nolie

January 9th, 2013
7:09 pm

Who would you rather have for 15-20 years… Fred McGriff or Biggio?

Biggio

nolie

January 9th, 2013
7:10 pm

I was in baseball in some of the 80s and I totally disagree that there were a lot of better known players. TBS was by far the largest baseball venue in America during that time.

Skeezix

January 9th, 2013
7:11 pm

Growing up, I and my siblings were told by my mother, grandmother and her siblings that we were part Indian. The best estimates would make me around 1/16th Indian (one of the N.Carolina tribes). My youngest sister has done a lot of family genealogy research and says that it is hard to prove because birth records back in my American Indian great grandmother’s era were poor at best, non-existent or not archived. But the oral history back to my grandmother, her siblings, children, etc. was very strong and consistent. You only had to look at my grandmother to know she was part Indian. So I firmly believe that I am part Indian. Given that, this lifelong Braves fans is not offended by the Indian logo – or even Chief Knockahoma. I definitely prefer the Indian smiling as to snarling.

Zing

January 9th, 2013
7:13 pm

I’m going to first say that discussions about who deserves to be in the HoF, unless they involve someone like Babe Ruth, generally devolve into pointless drivel. Adding the PEDs issue just muddies the drivel more.

And now my own contribution: I think it’s funny how some voters will talk about “first-ballot HoFers” when making their choices. I mean, if you’d vote for the guy, then vote for him. If that player makes it on the “first ballot,” then that will be self-acting. There’s no category for “really super-duper HoFers.” (Maybe there should be – feel free to petition Cooperstown).

Skeezix

January 9th, 2013
7:14 pm

Oh yeah, I’d love to see Bourn back. Both Upton and Bourn in the outfield would definitely get me excited about this season.

nolie

January 9th, 2013
7:17 pm

obviously there is just such an unofficial category, which is why many voters vote the way that they do

Skeezix

January 9th, 2013
7:24 pm

Re: Amphetamines. Planning to stay up all night for final exams, I took one pill once in college (too many years ago). I believe it was called a black beauty. I don’t know how people can take that stuff. In the middle of taking one of my exams the next day, my mind went blank. My heart raced and I didn’t sleep for two days.
………..I went back to just drinking coffee after that.

Mark

January 9th, 2013
7:26 pm

Congrats to the voters for doing a good job. Got it right this time.

George_George

January 9th, 2013
7:27 pm

I just read a story on Yahoo news [ they are very liberal ] that the mayor wants the WASHINGTON REDSKINS to change thier name. What in the world is the world comming to? The REDSKINS have had that name for a long time. I don’t believe the native americans are that senitive.

Dewayne

January 9th, 2013
7:30 pm

If you can get Bourn for a decent price, you get him. I think he understand that not many teams are interested in his agent an/or asking price. No way Justin Upton comes to the Braves. Kevin Towers always ask for some crazy amount of players for one player.

old man

January 9th, 2013
7:30 pm

TOBF-

Where is the stat showing BJ losing “5-10″ runs per year on defense?

Mixxo

January 9th, 2013
7:33 pm

Re: Amphetamines. Planning to stay up all night for final exams, I took one pill once in college (too many years ago). I believe it was called a black beauty. I don’t know how people can take that stuff. In the middle of taking one of my exams the next day, my mind went blank. My heart raced and I didn’t sleep for two days.
………..I went back to just drinking coffee after that.

^^^

Lightweight!

bb4040

January 9th, 2013
7:35 pm

J Upton for A Simmons… in a heartbeat! when did Simmons who couldn’t make the team out of camp last year become worthy of an Upton comp? Come on people whata re you smoking??? At 25 years this Upton will be a stud for years.

nolie

January 9th, 2013
7:35 pm

2010 TB -19 33
2011 TB -7 31
2012 TB -4 24
Runs Saved BJ Upton, number and ranking

http://www.billjamesonline.com/stats/fielding_bible_runs_saved/?PlayerId=5015

Dewayne

January 9th, 2013
7:36 pm

NO way Kevin Towers does that trade for J. Upton, he will want some top prospects along with Simmons.

nolie

January 9th, 2013
7:37 pm

not many gonna agree with you there 4040

old man

January 9th, 2013
7:39 pm

Bourn made 6.8M last year.

What would it take to get him on a one year deal, assuming he gets a tad desperate? 12M?

Mark

January 9th, 2013
7:40 pm

Pass the dunce hat. Someone else suggesting that we trade a once or twice in a lifetime SS for an athletic, little above average OFer.

SSs are much harder to come by, especially elite ones like Simmons, than OFers.

nolie

January 9th, 2013
7:43 pm

voters should be castratedhastized

bb4040

January 9th, 2013
7:47 pm

I know Wren thinks simmons is elite. Thats the problem. He’s a nice player. Upton will be great. Give them Simmons and one of those stud “can’t miss” pitchers.

nolie

January 9th, 2013
7:48 pm

Upton is NOT great away from home, he is mediocre

Mark

January 9th, 2013
7:53 pm

4040

Hes better than the brother we got for sure but no way you ship Simmons for him.

But, I wouldn’t swap Simmons for Strasburg straight up either because pitchers and OFers are out there to be had. Great SSs are not.

Mr Maggot

January 9th, 2013
7:55 pm

Shaun: All this is about writers taking a stand to feel good about themselves. If they thought about it, they would realize this is the first time in history that voters have been concerned with the bastardization of baseball, eroding fairness, etc.

Good points. I get a kick out of the outrage here by self-righteous voters and writers. The problem with this mess is a bunch of writers and voters have somehow become experts on deciding who did/didn’t use performance enhancers. Empty statements like “clean on and off the field ‘ attached to some players…….exactly how did we conclude this? It’s odd how smart these folks think they are and much of what they believe may/may not have a shread of truth attached to it. We clamor for Biggio to get in, but how have we concluded that he’s clean? Gaylord Perry’s cheating was fun trying to catch him and he’s in the hall. What a farce.

Dewayne

January 9th, 2013
7:58 pm

I believe 12m is too much for one year when he dropped off the second part of the season. Maybe 8-10m would be more like it if that.

Mr Maggot

January 9th, 2013
7:59 pm

Mark: Pass the dunce hat. Someone else suggesting that we trade a once or twice in a lifetime SS for an athletic, little above average OFer. SSs are much harder to come by, especially elite ones like Simmons, than OFers.

Yes, Simmons is elite and you don’t give him up. Ozzie Smith was a Card’s foundation for more than a decade and SImmon’s looks to have the potential to have the same level of impact.

Mr Maggot

January 9th, 2013
7:59 pm

Mark: Pass the dunce hat. Someone else suggesting that we trade a once or twice in a lifetime SS for an athletic, little above average OFer. SSs are much harder to come by, especially elite ones like Simmons, than OFers.

Yes, Simmons is elite and you don’t give him up. Ozzie Smith was a Card’s foundation for more than a decade and SImmon’s looks to have the potential to have the same level of impact.

JC Brave

January 9th, 2013
8:04 pm

Bourn getting 12 million after declining a 13.3 million qualifying offer from the Braves?

It won’t happen.. but that would certainly be hilarious.

SoWeGa Fanatic

January 9th, 2013
8:04 pm

Anyone who thinks Biggio is not HOF worthy hasn’t looked at his stats very well. He averaged 174 hits a year, led the league in doubles and runs scored several years. Tho not a homer hitter, he still averaged 17 a year. 7 time AS, 4 or 5 GG’s. MVP votes 4-5 times. Yeah, I’d take him.

Mark

January 9th, 2013
8:06 pm

Mr. Maggot

Yeah. Really looking forward to watching him play a few years! Special player!!

SoWeGa Fanatic

January 9th, 2013
8:08 pm

Simmons isn’t going anywhere. It’s ludicrous to think of trading Simmons and anyone for Upton, much less your projected starting pitchers for the next number of years.

nolie

January 9th, 2013
8:08 pm

hey there wee a lot here who swore Larkin would not get in too

Mr Maggot

January 9th, 2013
8:09 pm

“Given that, this lifelong Braves fans is not offended by the Indian logo – or even Chief Knockahoma. I definitely prefer the Indian smiling as to snarling.”

Well it’s settled. Somebody else is 1/196th [rumor has it] Native American and exclaimed that laughing Indian heads are not offensive. Now we can move on.

DS1

January 9th, 2013
8:09 pm

Hard to imagine that the Padres once traded Ozzie Smith, isn’t it! Us dealing Simmons could be a similar scenario.

But if I could get Andrew McCutchen, I’d do that deal in a heartbeat.

DS1

January 9th, 2013
8:10 pm

no way do I deal him for Upton. Headley, maybe.

DS1

January 9th, 2013
8:12 pm

Can we quit talking about logos and Hall of Fame? How bout dem Braves!

TheOnlyBravesFan

January 9th, 2013
8:12 pm

Biggio should get in soon… not a 1st ballot guy though

TheOnlyBravesFan

January 9th, 2013
8:15 pm

ChattTownBrian
January 9th, 2013
6:06 pm

I’m a little worried about our starting pitching for this year. I know Medlen will be good and I mentioned Minor, but Hudson is another year older and his health seems to be in question every year the last few. Maholm is just a 5 guy that eats innings and gives up a lot of homeruns. Teheran and Delgado you just don’t know. Safe to say that I think Beachy will be very welcomed back in July, or whenever he’s supposed to return.

Yep… there was a good article on CAC I believe yesterday about the team…. if we go with the optimistic views on the rotation, which aren’t entirely wrong, we’re a 90+ win team. But there is always the more realistic view that the guys aren’t prime time yet and they struggle… if any part of the team does, it’ll start in the rotation. Just have to wait and see.

Mark

January 9th, 2013
8:15 pm

DS1

Early in his career I could see why someone would trade Ozzie because as great as he was defensively he wasn’t very good offensively. He worked at it and got much better though.

Also, when comparing Simmons with Ozzie I think you have to consider that both make unreal plays getting to balls but Simmons has a better arm and more upside offensively after 1 year, IMO

No way I’d trade him for Andrew Mc either.

TheOnlyBravesFan

January 9th, 2013
8:21 pm

old man- Nolie showed it to ya! I look at Rdrs…. Rtot too

. I understand that he has 3000 hits but I don’t think that should be the end all argument on why a guy should be put in the hall.

^^^^

Justin Upton is NOT great away from home, he is mediocre

Not much worse than his brother though…. and with regular time away from Chase, he’d probably improve. Potential just like his 3yr older brother, right? ;) Also I have read and learned that hitter’s away stats from Chase aren’t as worrisome as those from Coor’s; not much to read into them.

Mark

January 9th, 2013
8:22 pm

Would I vote Biggio into the HOF? NO

Would I swap Biggio for Uggla? YEP ;)

VaBravesFan

January 9th, 2013
8:23 pm

Justin Upton would provide a better batting line than his brother BJ, I’d think. We just gave 75 million to a guy who has a 242 AVG and 316 OBP over the past 4 years…. Justin Upton would be a huge upgrade over what we have right now in my opinion. Even in Justin’s down years he’s maintained his OBP output. Even with his concerns about hitting away from Arizona I’d still want him. Great defender in a corner spot, only 25 years old with 3 years 39 million remaining on his contract which is a huge bargain… I mean Shane Victorino a bum was able to land the same deal in FA…

TheOnlyBravesFan

January 9th, 2013
8:23 pm

old man- Nolie showed it to ya! I look at Rdrs…. Rtot too

. I understand that he has 3000 hits but I don’t think that should be the end all argument on why a guy should be put in the hall.

^^^^

Justin Upton is NOT great away from home, he is mediocre

Not much worse than his brother though…. and with regular time away from Chase, he’d probably improve. Potential just like his 3yr older brother, right? ;) Also I have read and learned that hitter’s away stats from Chase aren’t as worrisome as those from Coor’s; not much to read into them.

Ken Rosenthal ‏@Ken_Rosenthal
Source: #Nationals GM Mike Rizzo is in Puerto Rico tonight watching Javier Vazquez pitch.

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And Vazquez’s manager, former major leaguer Alex Cora, just tweeted in Spanish that Vazquez threw 95 mph on his 83rd pitch

Uggh… watch the Nats get him for some great depth…. their A++ rotation. We should be in on this!!!!

nolie

January 9th, 2013
8:26 pm

I gotta admit that I fail to see how anybody could say that Biggio is not a HOFer, but he will be soon so ok

DS1

January 9th, 2013
8:26 pm

Mark

I’m hopeful that Simmons will be all that we are hoping for, but I wouldn’t be surprised if he turns into just an average hitter. But even at that, what do you expect from your all star defensive SS.

TheOnlyBravesFan

January 9th, 2013
8:28 pm

Justin Upton Road (which includes a lot of Petco, AT&T, and Chavez)- .250/.325/.406/.731

The BJ Upton of Recent- .242/.317/.436/.753

DS1

January 9th, 2013
8:29 pm

I’d love to have 25 Craig Biggio’s on my team. I’d definitely vote him in. When you go back and look at some of the guys who are in the Hall, no way should guys like Biggio and Murph be in the Hall. A 1 way player like Rice gets in?? The bar was lowered at that point.

DS1

January 9th, 2013
8:30 pm

Meant to say “no way should guys like Biggio and Murph NOT be in the Hall”

nolie

January 9th, 2013
8:31 pm

I like Justin better no doubt, guessing he would be an 800 hitter here, not good enough to give up what many here are willing to give

Mark

January 9th, 2013
8:31 pm

Remember when Piazza said he couldn’t call a grown man Chipper which led to the Larry Chants in NY and probably gave Chipper added motivation that led to his unreal stats in Shea.

Well, I’m not on Piazzas level, but I can’t call anyone BJ so I gotta go with his real name – Melvin!

TheOnlyBravesFan

January 9th, 2013
8:33 pm

nolie

January 9th, 2013
8:33 pm

I think Rice was borderline, but better than Murph in his career

jrn

January 9th, 2013
8:35 pm

im glad bourn isnt coming back,a lead off hitter that strikes out 150+ times no thanks. would rather have c crisp for 2 years at 14 mil .bourn is overrated who ever signs him will regret giving him big money imo

Mark

January 9th, 2013
8:35 pm

Way to many get in the HOF imo.

Mark

January 9th, 2013
8:38 pm

Agree that Rice had better career than Murph but neither should be in HOF. Gaylord Perry was mentioned earlier in cheating discussion. He shouldn’t be in either

VaBravesFan

January 9th, 2013
8:39 pm

Craig Biggo is definitely a HOFer….

20 Year Career All with Astros
16th All Time in Games Played
2nd All Time Hit By Pitches
5 Silver Sluggers
7 Time All Star
4 Time Gold Glover
MVP Consideration 5 Times
3060 Hits (21st All Time)
668 Doubles (5th All Time)

nolie

January 9th, 2013
8:40 pm

For starters, home field advantage is a real thing, and most players hit better at home than they do on the road

true, but not over 200 points worth. even so it is his actual away numbers that worry me. the big split just calls your attention to it. Granted he would likely approve, but the NL East parks are not all that easy other than Phil. so I’m saying he brings that away OPS up by 50-70 points and hits around 800, bur he also at least so far has an off-again on-again history year by year
its all just trying to come up with a somewhat educated guess. he might get to a new situation here and blossom, nobody knows

DS1

January 9th, 2013
8:45 pm

I don’t know nolie, when you look at both guys overall numbers, Rice was only slightly better offensively. (OBP, OPS and OPS+)

But when you look at the home away splits for Rice, he was definitely a Fenway man.

And he wasn’t much to speak of defensively. And Murph played catcher when he came up.

Gotta say if I’m choosing one of them in their prime, I’d take the guy who can play in the field.

Mark

January 9th, 2013
8:46 pm

VaBraves

With all due respect do you think number of years played, number of games played, getting hit by pitchers when he wore the Bonds body armour all over his left arm or MVP considerations should have anything to do with whether someone is one of the greatest players to play.

VaBravesFan

January 9th, 2013
8:47 pm

Justin Upton is still only 25 years old. He’s been in the Major Leagues since he was 19 years old. I think he’s a player we’ll see get better and better. We havent seen the best of Justin yet… He might not be a Cornerstone Player, Team Leader type, but still he’s a really good young player. Probably the reason they wanna trade him… He isn’t a leader they want him to be. He’s produced a career 832 OPS, MVP Consideration twice, 2 All Stars, and a Silver Slugger all before 25 years old.. 20/20 Gold Glove Caliber Corner Outfielder only making 13 million a season for the next 3 years.

VaBravesFan

January 9th, 2013
8:50 pm

Gotta factor in the guy is a 2nd baseman as well. Position matters.

DS1

January 9th, 2013
8:50 pm

If you really dig into their career numbers, it’s eerie how close the two players were in numbers. Rice had the better average and a better slugging percentage, but they were really close in PA’s and most offensive categories. Murph was better at taking a walk, which compensated somewhat for his lower average.

Biggest difference is the drop off.

nolie

January 9th, 2013
8:53 pm

prolly the biggest difference as far as HOF consideration is the batting averages . Rice near 300 at a time when it was still considered one of the biggies, Murph 265ish, would be one of the lowest in the Hall and from an outfielder no less
only one who was less would be Killebrew and he had 570 or so homers back when they were all natural

Stanley

January 9th, 2013
8:58 pm

Have the Braves signed Bourn yet?

Lane Kiffin

January 9th, 2013
8:59 pm

DS1, Where is Venice Jim???

He hasn’t been seen except under other monikers since the Chief gave him that smack down on the previous blog.

nolie

January 9th, 2013
9:01 pm

I seriously doubt that VJ posted under other names, that is your trick Lame

ColoradoBravesFan

January 9th, 2013
9:03 pm

Braves Prospect JR Graham….. With GAttis behind the plate.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lANpandGmlo

Lane Kiffin

January 9th, 2013
9:04 pm

Of course Nolie, members of the herd would never do such a thing.

Lane Kiffin

January 9th, 2013
9:06 pm

Just not the same without the teacher to correct all of us.

nolie

January 9th, 2013
9:06 pm

you’ll never really know that will you Lame, cause you will never be accepted among normal folks

Lane Kiffin

January 9th, 2013
9:07 pm

non herd members that is.

Lane Kiffin

January 9th, 2013
9:09 pm

If you consider yourself normal then……………

Lane Kiffin

January 9th, 2013
9:11 pm

It easy to spot a member of the herd. Even if the post has nothing to do with them. Case in point. They will run to defend the others.

nolie

January 9th, 2013
9:11 pm

as a mental health counselor I consider myself a hell of a lot more normal than you are troll

Mark

January 9th, 2013
9:13 pm

Lane

Baseball, occasionally football, but baseball mostly. Not yah yah yah

Lane Kiffin

January 9th, 2013
9:13 pm

You guys are behind. No one has called me Lentz, Dentz, Mixxo, Ace, George etc.

nolie

January 9th, 2013
9:15 pm

because you are likely many of them, don’t even bother to lie about not having posted here B4 under other names because nobody here will believe you

Lane Kiffin

January 9th, 2013
9:16 pm

Mental Health Counselor——now that’s the pot calling the kettle black.

I assume you don’t treat those who don’t ask??

Mark

January 9th, 2013
9:18 pm

Nolie

You are a mental health counselor?

Man, I bet you get some real interesting material and possible evaluations off the blog! I’m not a mental health counselor but I’ve thought more than once on the blog that some are a little off! ;)

nolie

January 9th, 2013
9:18 pm

ask what?folks like you are often Baker Acted, so no not all ask

Lane Kiffin

January 9th, 2013
9:18 pm

Typical response by you Nolie. I didn’t say anything to or about you. Yet you feel the need to jump on accuse me of all kind of things.

That should serve you well in your Mental health career.

Lane Kiffin

January 9th, 2013
9:20 pm

Then you should sign your own 5150 and head on.

TheOnlyBravesFan

January 9th, 2013
9:20 pm

Lame showed up…. dang

Lane Kiffin

January 9th, 2013
9:23 pm

I am out of here for a while.

Not going to continue to give Nolie the attention he craves. Otherwise why would he engage someone about a subject that has nothing to do with him??

ChattTownBrian

January 9th, 2013
9:23 pm

Does anybody around here use a neti pot? The sinus cleaning thing shaped like a tea pot. Well I read online AFTER I used mine yesterday that you aren’t supposed to use regular tap water. Two people in Louisiana died from a brain eating parasite that was in their water. Now why couldn’t I have read this before I used the darn thing. Oh and symtoms don’t start until five days after that nasty parasite enters your sinus.

ChattTownBrian

January 9th, 2013
9:23 pm

Does anybody around here use a neti pot? The sinus cleaning thing shaped like a tea pot. Well I read online AFTER I used mine yesterday that you aren’t supposed to use regular tap water. Two people in Louisiana died from a brain eating parasite that was in their water. Now why couldn’t I have read this before I used the darn thing. Oh and symtoms don’t start until five days after that nasty parasite enters your sinus.

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