2:43 pm January 2, 2013, by David O'Brien
January 3rd, 201312:17 am
you are still missing the point Ozzie
January 3rd, 201312:22 am
Yeah, that Howard Stern contract was obscene. Also the unfunny Opie and Anthony show.
When XM started, they hired a lot of old time jocks and put them on shows they were familiar with…I loved this because it added so much to the music and I don’t mind the talking on a commercial free station. Plus they had weekly shows by a lot of musicians and folks in the business that had lots of guests and stories on music, songs, tours, etc. that you could not hear anywhere else. Most of those are gone and I miss them.
January 3rd, 201312:23 am
You think a few dozen schools are kicking themselves for not hiring Charlie Strong in the past decade or two? (I sure wish my school — Kansas — had pursued him instead of Turner Gill a while back, but Turner was the hot name at the time.)
there are a lot of people here who specialize in reading what they want to rather than what is actually said
January 3rd, 201312:25 am
nolie, have you seen Bat or know why he’s not around much?
January 3rd, 201312:27 am
I’m guessing it is because his brother took a turn for the worse ken, but i don’t know that for sure.
January 3rd, 201312:28 am
Damn, I’m sorry, I forgot about his brother…my bad.
January 3rd, 201312:31 am
ken – he may be on twitter. I remember he said he had an account, but wasn’t using it.
I gave up mine, for now, so I can’t check. But someone on here that has a twitter account could.
January 3rd, 201312:33 am
there are a lot of people here who specialize in reading what they want to rather than what is actually said — Cherokee Kid
There are a lot of people here who aren’t even people
January 3rd, 201312:34 am
January 3rd, 201312:35 am
Bat is on twitter…. I don’t know if he wants the name posted on here, but hmu and I can get you the name via twitter.
January 3rd, 201312:36 am
everybody is a people
January 3rd, 201312:37 am
I think ken (and the rest of us) just want to know if he’s OK.
Good, I miss him but I hope that means his brother is ok
January 3rd, 201312:38 am
not sure if Shaun is a people or not….
Thanks TOBF, past your bedtime, ain’t it?
January 3rd, 201312:40 am
everybody is a people — Cherokee Kid
Nope, not ALL of the time. On here, many times everybody is a PERSON. (One that’s whacked-out, but a single, one, lonely, messed-up person)
I haven’t seen Shaun in quite a while, did he get committed somewhere or did his core melt down ?
January 3rd, 201312:41 am
I would generally watch someone die before I’d change my words, thoughts, attitude, or actions that offended them in the first place because I do not care about other people enough to worry about their feelings, and that being said, I think Col Sanders put it best when he said, “If you like my chicken, buy it..and if you don’t like my chicken, f**k off”
January 3rd, 201312:42 am
In the shop for new circuit boards, new chips, batteries etc. nolie
January 3rd, 201312:43 am
I hope Shaun knows the The Godfather (Bill James) is on Clubhouse Confidential tomorrow. Efrim hasn’t been around a lot, either.
January 3rd, 201312:47 am
“If you like my chicken, buy it..and if you don’t like my chicken, f**k off” — TrishaDishawareagle (nice moniker)
I never realized that was Col. Sanders that said it first. I always attributed that saying to Frank Perdue.
You learn a lot on this blog.
January 3rd, 201312:48 am
Bill might be a little too mainstream for Shaun anymore
January 3rd, 201312:49 am
sounds like he’s okay, but his brother still may have some struggles
Bat Masterson @___
My brother called last night to say he and his sons wanted to come over to watch the Falcons if he felt well enough. He called, he doesn’t
Bat Masterson @____
@JasonInFL, He has hep C and his liver is failing. http://tinyurl.com/Terry-K-Liver-Transplant-Fund
Good night y’all.
the Colonel coulda said it he was a grumpy old bastid
January 3rd, 201312:50 am
sorry to hear that about Bat’s brother
January 3rd, 201312:51 am
January 3rd, 201312:52 am
could be, but everybody loves my chicken
fan of the abnormal
January 3rd, 201312:53 am
Ok…I love the Logo…I loved it in the 80’s. I am of Indian Heritage, but not full and was not raised in the culture. However, I try to put the shoe on the other foot and imagine a team named the “Afros”. If there was a logo of a black guy with an afro and his mouth open, I dont think id be offended, but the delicious vinyl guy offends me. Yet, i don’t know why- but he does
January 3rd, 201312:57 am
Hello everyone! At first I kind of liked the new hat, but think the logo should be smaller. The Logo kind of scares the hell out of me, so I don’t think I’ll be buying that hat. There are other caps…..
TOBF: thanks a lot.
January 3rd, 201312:58 am
I object to the face logo because it is poorly done. It looks like something from a high school rather than a MLB team. Clean it up, make it more professional and something a Native American (as well as Atlanta fans) can be proud of.
Better yet, go back to the crossed feathers.
January 3rd, 201312:59 am
I heard Wren paid 55 million for the screaming Indian logo……
January 3rd, 20131:00 am
Since, I’m here. I’ll drop the Delmon Young thing. Just thought I would make a last minute sale, but didn’t work!
nolie, It would be a pleasure to try your chicken some day.
BTW, can you believe the amount of Native Americans that DOB has commenting on his blog, tonight? If anyone knows how to get blog-hits, it’s DOB.
Who woulda thought that a blog, partially, on the Braves batting practice caps would bring out so many comments?
You just never know…
sure Frank did
January 3rd, 20131:02 am
I don’t find the logo offensive.
What I find offensive is calling the stadium “The Ted”, this is lame as #%&#@!$#% and totally unoriginal and sophomoric to boot. Call it Ted Turner Stadium OR Turner Stadium for short.
And I find it offensive to hear (constantly) sports reporters call the team the “Bravos”. They are the Braves–call them that you gooberheadedmorons!!!
I think Bravos comes from someone not wanting to say Braves and “offend” some whiny nosepicking pablum puking bedwetter.
For the record we Americans of Irish heritage don’t mind being depicted as boozers or brawlers–It can be true often enough. And my Scottish cousins have made bar fighting into a national sport.
Hard to understand why someone would be offended by having their ancestors or their contemporaries referenced as great warriors.
Plus, that is the uggliest cap I’ve ever scene…….
January 3rd, 20131:03 am
There are a lot of peoples with some native american ancestry in the south, especially the coastal states Carolinas thru Florida
January 3rd, 20131:04 am
Call it Ted Turner Stadium OR Turner Stadium for short.
Or maybe Turner Field.
Nah, don’t know where I came up with that.
January 3rd, 20131:07 am
gooberheadedmorons – Not bad…
whiny nosepicking pablum puking bedwetter — Excellent, BigGAdawg, excellent!
January 3rd, 20131:10 am
Just hope the new cap, does’t curse the Braves, and they end in last this coming season! little humor.
January 3rd, 20131:12 am
I don’t find the logo offensive.
What I find offensive is calling the stadium “The Ted”, this is lame as #%@!$#% and totally unoriginal and sophomoric to boot. Call it Ted Turner Stadium OR Turner Stadium for short. — BigGAdawg
How ’bout we call it Turner Field, which is the actual name of the place?
Braves #17 Fan
January 3rd, 20131:18 am
Even though I don’t get the issue with the logo as something that’s offensive, I didn’t like it back then and I don’t like it now. Let’s ditch it.
January 3rd, 20131:20 am
great stuff from top to bottom. happy new year.
let’s keep it for BP
January 3rd, 20131:29 am
i feel good gonna beat this crappy disease yet
January 3rd, 20131:30 am
already 2 months past my first expiration date
January 3rd, 20131:31 am
well its bedtime for bonzo
January 3rd, 20131:36 am
ncgary – Just don’t buy the new cap, and you’ll be fine……
January 3rd, 20131:44 am
ncgary – Prayers are for you buddy…..
January 3rd, 20131:47 am
ncgary, here’s knowing you will beat it! And with some prayers for good measure.
January 3rd, 20131:59 am
“The Indian-head logo has already drawn plenty of criticism for being politically incorrect and, in the view of some, racist.”
What does everyone think about the texans-bengals game this weekend? I think Dalton and the bengals surprise everyone and beat the texans.
January 3rd, 20132:01 am
It’s too bad Shaun isn’t here! We could hear his facts on the new batting practice cap, and all the angles, and time it took to put the new logo on the cap. Little humor.
January 3rd, 20132:20 am
All, have a good one! Just wondering if the Logo enjoyed his pipe, and that stoned feeling??????Peace my friends, and “Go!!!!!Braves!!!!!”
January 3rd, 20132:56 am
Ilove that logo I’m Irish scotts Irish welch Cherokee Creek Cherokee-Blackfoot English German American
January 3rd, 20132:57 am
Oh yea and Georgian
January 3rd, 20133:01 am
I will buy a batting practice cap and tip it to any and all comers
January 3rd, 20133:09 am
I think I will buy one too if they become available
January 3rd, 20136:01 am
Everything you do and say is offensive to someone. Some find the red jerseys offensive. Some the blue. Others find it offensive that the Braves use a handful of jerseys rather than just the traditional home white and road grey. Some find the name Braves offensive. Some find it offensive that the braves are the Atlanta Braves rather than the Georgia Braves or even the Southern Braves. Using Atlanta rather than a broader region is too insensitive and not inclusive enough to the actual potential fan base. The colors red, white and blue can be offensive because it is too patriotic in symbolism. Naming the field after Ted Turner can be offensive. Jimmy Carter and Jane Fonda with front row seats offends some. Displaying ads for conservative talk radio stations can offend others. Beer and junk food being sold offends some. Ads for foreign auto companies offends others. Your delicate sensibilities may offend me. My hypersensivity may offend you. That douche over there? His insensitivity may offend both of us. Who cares? Get over yourselves. Vote with your pocketbook. If you think the customer service sucks for you, don’t give them another dime. They’ll take the hint if there are enough people like you. If they don’t then they will lose money. Or maybe they won’t lose money and they’ll just shrug their shoulders and say, oh, well, can’t please everyone. Every Super Bowl Sunday, at least half the country ain’t watching. At least half the country is either so turned off by or so not turned on by the spectacle of it, they can’t be bothered to turn it on. Should we go out of our way to accomodate them for the sake of doing so? Hell naw. You only accomodate those losers to the extend necessary to make them cash paying customers as well
January 3rd, 20137:00 am
Logo is ok. Who has time to worry about a logo?
Who cares about the number of post per person on a blog?
Florida was horribly overrated.
Notre Dame is a made up media (ESPN) sensation. Bama will crush them.
Ray Lewis left 2 people dead in Atlanta. Let’s not act like he deserves reverance.
LF is the easiest position to fill yet the Braves go years with the same need. Same story every year.
Thanks for the updates, DOB.
January 3rd, 20137:31 am
Well, the time has come, so may as well change it for the PC police. How about we just change the name altogether?:
“The Atlanta African-Americans Plus a Few Hispanics and Smattering of White Guys” or
“The Atlanta Native-AmericansTimids”
“The Atlanta Timids”
“The Atlanta Izzies”
January 3rd, 20137:35 am
Woke up this morning and it was -11 degrees out…… anyways I am ready for some braves baseball and the season to start….. I like what the braves have done although I would like to see a regular starting right fielder and keep prado at third but you have to do what you have to do and I really dont want to see the braves to over pay for someone…… I still cant believe the Michael Bourn is still available on the free agent market….. I just wonder who is going to sign him…. GO BRAVES!!
Call It Like It Is
Braves could fix this easy. Just pick a tribe like FSU did. Get their okay for the logo and from here on out for anyone that ask or cares or wants to start something, tell them the logo represents this tribe and their warriors only. Case closed.
January 3rd, 20137:46 am
It is time we go back to the “way it was”. I know some people think I am ignorant or stupid, but come on, “sticks and stones may break my bones, but names will never hurt me”. Political correctness is for people who want to control every aspect of someones life. I have a freedom of speech and wish to use it here. The Indian screaming on a baseball hat is nothing to get all worked up about. Come on America, lose the attitude already!
January 3rd, 20137:52 am
You know, it wouldn’t hurt actually to ASK Native Americans how the image and the term “Braves” might be used in a respectful manner. _ Alaska Braves Fan
How do you know they didn’t? Why do people he assume the Braves are run by Jethro Bodine?
Some of the people with whom I work have said they find it helpful to paraphrase back to Natives what they believe they have said, and have found that often what they understood wasn’t what was meant. ABF
Not a bad idea with other people period.
January 3rd, 20137:57 am
The FSU logo looks like a contstipated indian in agony.
January 3rd, 20137:59 am
Not he, but Here*
January 3rd, 20138:05 am
Just get you a Rebel Black Bear for a mascot and everything will be fine.
January 3rd, 20138:16 am
91% of Native Americans polled by Sports Illustrated said that they didn’t even find the clearly pejorative term ‘Redskin’ to be racist or even offensive. So who is making an issue over this besides a couple of sports writers? If there were no sports teams with native american mascots would anyone ever discuss native americans or their causes?
January 3rd, 20138:19 am
Where’s Bat Masterson, he’s knows all about stocks and business stuff, I haven’t seen Bat much lately. _ kenhotlanta
Not really, ken. I do know a fair amount about Sirius/XM and Liberty Media. Liberty had not taken over Siri quite yet. They are still working on it but they are calling the shots.
They are waiting on FCC approval before they go over 50% ownership of the stock. It’s a long story but Liberty took a risk on Siri back when the credit market froze up and got 40% for about a $500mm loan. They got paid back quickly at, I think, 15% interest.
Since then Liberty has been buying up stock on the open market and through deals with large holders. They sit at just under 50% and have spent about $1.5B. They want to control Siri and get that money back. So Yeah Mel is out, but his contract was up, and I think it’s probably time for a change anyway.
In December they did a one time special dividend of $.05 and announced a share buyback program that Liberty will be participating in the buy back ,but don’t have to sell all they bought, to get back their investment at todays prices. So they could get over the 50% hump that way.
Siri Is a cash cow and Liberty has made out like a bandit.
January 3rd, 20138:22 am
This is clearly a controversial issue so we should just scrap the Braves name and logo for good. I would like to suggest “Rebels” as the new Atlanta nickname to commemorate our Civil War heritage…Instead of the tomahawk chop the fans could do a rebel yell to get rallies started.
January 3rd, 20138:24 am
how much is that dog in the window
January 3rd, 20138:28 am
Bat is on twitter…. I don’t know if he wants the name posted on here, but hmu and I can get you the name via twitter. _ TheOnlyBravesFan
You don’t know if I want to give out my twitter name here, but you will copy a link I posted there, here, that blows my anonymity here all to hell an gone.
January 3rd, 20138:39 am
Who in the hell needs batting practice caps. They should be butt-ugly to squash any thought of wearing them in the games. That said…they are.
It’s hard to find a lot of Native Americans. At least enough with a % of Native American in them to qualify for any poll on the subject. I know a few and I can tell you they could give a rip. 50-something’s that have better things to do than worry about a logo on a cap. Ugly logo at that. Look at it this way. I’m part Polish (small part). I’m not offended by the jokes. Not sure this follows in the logo vein but you get my point. Maybe if scribes quit pointing out logos that were perceived offensive then perhaps people wouldn’t care about the logos at all. Let the offended party bring it up. There is nothing wrong with any names such as “Braves” or logos like the Redskins or actions like the Tomahawk Chop (it is different than the FSU chop). Actually the way I look at it is that it is more a tip of the cap than a slap in the face.
Rock on…..ND has the perfect logo for one of the most despised teams in all of sport. I just want to Taekwondo his arse every time I see him. Roll Tide!
January 3rd, 20138:42 am
Johnny x 4….you rebel you.
January 3rd, 20138:45 am
i feel good gonna beat this crappy disease yet
I pray the you do, gary.
January 3rd, 20138:53 am
Well , I don’t know many 100% Native Americans but I know thousands of 100% American Rednecks. Using “Rebels” instead of Braves would cause quite a stir between warring Redneck factions. Some that would claim it a 3 syllable vs a 2 syllable word and prepared to wager a bunch of beer they are right. Nah, Rebels would get hung up in Redneck courts for eternity :.)
Something in a name; “Braves” always meant someting to me, ” One who endures to the end “, Battles thru to the last man standing, not giving up the fight. I always liked the red – white – blue feather logos on the shoulders(72 -79) as well. The Indian warrior always been cool w/ me.
January 3rd, 20138:55 am
Honesty ought to require us to admit to ourselves that for more than 500 years (and still) our ONE real concern with red people in this hemisphere has been to ensure that we did any and everything we thought necessary to ensure they were ELIMINATED as factor in our lust to exploit these lands and the associated resources. We’ve CARED enough about them for those 500 years to have very willingly almost wiped them from the face of the earth in pursuit of our aspirations, and we care no more about them today than we’ve cared since the Spaniards landed. Why do we insist upon continuing to lie to ourselves with silly discussions about inconsequential crap like this logo? If we really cared, we’d spend our energies on things like assisting the Lakota Sioux with their effort to regain tribal lands rather than with crappy meaningless discussions about a ball cap. We couldn’t care less about red people; never have.
January 3rd, 20138:56 am
Gary; Our Hearts & prayers will continue for you buddy.
January 3rd, 20139:00 am
anyone know when the caravan schedule comes out? seems like it started in late january last year. go bravos.
Pearls Before Swine
January 3rd, 20139:07 am
My issue is not whether the “screaming savage” logo is PC or not. My issue is that many fans and some in the media would embrace a new batting practice hat that featured a steaming pile of cow manure on it simply because it came from the Braves organization.
Can the Braves bring the logo back? Sure they can, but why would they? Just to prove they can?
It would be one thing if they weren’t bowing to pressure to eliminate part of the uni that had been in place for decades, but the fact is the murdering Mohawk has been absent for years now. Bringing it back now only proves the organization off the field is the same as the organization on the field. They simply just don’t have all the pieces in place to make great decisions. A good business head would not want to alienate ANY potential fans. Of course in this day and time, it seems there are lots of folks who think it’s great to swim against the current, fight windmills and engage in other stupid activities just because they feel they have the right to do so.
As my daughter is fond of saying, “who thought THAT was a good idea?”
I find this column racist.
January 3rd, 20139:12 am
I can see this blog topic wandering into forbidden political territory which is punishable by a DOB thrashing. Having said that……
Left field. I dunno. If we signed Johnson to platoon as needed and project Gattis to help there as it appears he can then are we really gonna give up a lot to get a Fowler-type to patrol LF? Prado will play there some too. This looks, to me, that what we have is as good as what we could get. Not to mention a helluva lot cheaper. I understand that images in the mirror are bigger than they appear but I’m fine with being patient now and seeing what might unfold in the early months of the season. Maybe Gattis turns into the masher we all have been wanting in LF for decades. Maybe.
January 3rd, 20139:22 am
Thanks for the info, DOB.
Love the logo – hope we keep it, if for no other reason than to irritate the panty-waists.
January 3rd, 20139:23 am
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January 3rd, 20139:33 am
Don’t Understand, Don’t Understand — People keep talking about how great, how exciting it is going to be to have the Power Hitting B J Upton in the outfield. Against the 1/3 best best pitchers, he hit .168 with Zero Home Runs. How do you think he is going to produce in the meaningful situations in the late innings of close games when he is facing the team’s set up men and .Closers. (To say nothing of his overall BA below .250 and OBA below .300 and approaching 200 Strike Outs. Just wait.
January 3rd, 20139:36 am
dadgum the Tomahawk Chop (it is different than the FSU chop).
it is? how is it different?
January 3rd, 20139:41 am
Me being of European descent, have taken away true-native American’s Freedoms, & we suppose to be the land of the free, they are truely Brave, they are warriors who don’t back down to no one, because they truely stood from Heart within. I love the Logo, Love the name because I would Love to follow even a sports team that would try to represent something close to a great heritage(tho may never touch the surface) but I always admired Native American-Indian culture, the hardships, their land that I (my descendants) came to use, which it really belongs to them, & I sure use resources w/o discretion that should be to them. But out of respect to the Native-American folks, this Scott – Irish man has try to learn not to take things for granted based upon how the native American culture based itself upon. To have a Baseball team w/ the name Braves I would like to think would represent admirably what it would stand for from a certain people whose persona or heritage actually is what it means.
January 3rd, 20139:48 am
I honestly can’t figure out how some intelligent people on here can’t see the problem with the logo. Or even the use of Native Americans as mascots.
The best comparison would be for a German sports team to name their team after the Jewish and then claim that they are honoring them. Y’know, go ahead and have the logo depicting them with sad eyes wearing dirty and over-sized clothing.
I love the folks pointing to the poll results as proof it’s OK to use the logo. LOL That’s a lot of white males voting, folks.
BJ= 6 full seasons in majors= .255 BA 20/75 HR/RBI strikeouts by season 154,134,152,164,161,169. Its so easy to check facts BEFORE you post random sh*t.
January 3rd, 20139:50 am
.255 is not BELOW .250 last time I checked. The strikeot totals are NOT approaching 200. Get your facts straight or STFU.
January 3rd, 20139:51 am
I bet he puts up #’s higher than his career avgs. in 2013. Any takers?
January 3rd, 20139:56 am
Thats like saying Hank Aaron hit around 800 home runs or Cal Ripken played in nearly 3000 straight games. Thats why the stats are kept so that you can look them up and have an intelligent conversation and comparison. Get your facts straight before posting Don.
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