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St Simons - aboriginal
January 8th, 2013
9:09 am
well, I’m an Indian/native whatever, and I don’t want one of our heads
on the cap. Oh, not because of any native thing – I just don’t wanna
be associated with the biggest chokers on the planet.ever.ever.
Bayou Brave
January 8th, 2013
9:35 am
St Simons – aboriginal
January 8th, 2013
9:09 am
well, I’m an Indian/native whatever,
That’s believable.
brian
January 8th, 2013
9:44 am
great take on the logo DOB
raleighbravefan
January 8th, 2013
9:51 am
The way I see it, it has nothing to do with “political correctness”, whatever that means on any given day. As old man said, it’s really about good manners. But even more, I see it as a business decision, and the real question is …why would you do something which will, or even may, create negative reaction and controversy, when you can easily avoid it? If you feel you have a compelling need and constitutional right to ignore others feelings, then think about the negative affect on the business of Braves baseball. Is that worth the possibility of selling a few hats?
raleighbravefan
January 8th, 2013
9:54 am
Oh, and BTW, since Columbus seems to be so fixated on his balls, I checked and confirmed that I still have both of mine. I know, TMI. Sorry.
CrαZy
January 8th, 2013
9:55 am
I’m going to test the hats out at the Casino in Cherokee…. I’ll post my results… If you don’t hear back from me send a search party!!!
BravePack(FreeFan)
January 8th, 2013
9:59 am
TOBF
So you said yestwerday that the Packers defense isn’t that good yet the Falcons defense gave up more total yards, more rushing yards, and more passing yards than the Packers defense. Packers defense had way more sacks than the Falcons defense, Falcons D had 2 more picks than Packs D. Now keep in mind the Packs D didn’t have Woodson for practically the whole year and he is back and Matthews was gone for over a month, which is huge and he is back, as good as ever and well rested for the playoff run. I would take the Packers D over the Falcons every day of the week and twice on Sunday. Not that it matters though because the Seahawks are going to beat Matty Ice anyway. Dude can’t win the big games and the bye week off hurts teams more than it helps. Now as far as my game Rodgers vs a rookie in his 1st playoff game Kaepernick is a pretty easy pick. Add to the fact that Rodgers is playing against the Niners, who passed over him at the draft and has always had a chip on his shoulder about it just helps the Packers.
PureEvil
January 8th, 2013
10:09 am
Columbus, what you said at 4:24… is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent comment were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone on this blog is now dumber for having read it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
David O'Brien
January 8th, 2013
10:11 am
Happy birthday to Elvis.
The King.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUWMSVDPdGQ
raleighbravefan
January 8th, 2013
10:19 am
DOB – Yup. I saw Elvis in Greensboro in April, before he died on August 16, 1977. I believe he only did 2 more concerts after G’boro. He looked like someone had attached an air hose, and blown him up, but he still sounded great, and gave a great show.
brian
January 8th, 2013
10:27 am
DOB’s take on the logo was excellent. I just don’t like the logo. MLB should be able to come up with much better hats for the Braves to wear.
George_George
January 8th, 2013
10:36 am
ND is a really bad football team. I don’t see how they could have been unbeaten all season [ must have been a weak schedule ]. Last night they played like the BRAVES did in that playin game.
TheOnlyBravesFan
January 8th, 2013
10:40 am
some say they had the #1 schedule….
… can’t see that. Definitely showed.
CrαZy
January 8th, 2013
10:49 am
TOBF… At the beginning of the Year their schedule looked very strong, but that was when USC was #1, Michigan was #8 and Michigan State was #13 the only one still ranked is Michigan #24. The only 2 big wins was against Stanford who finished #7 and Oklahoma #15.
DAP
January 8th, 2013
10:54 am
some say they had the #1 schedule….
thats a load of crap. ND didnt play a single team on the level of LSU, UGA, or TA&M. BAMA had a few cupcakes on the schedule, but i dont see any way someone can ever say and SEC team had an easier road to a national championship game than some non conference team. ever. ND was exposed for what they are.
richbrave
January 8th, 2013
10:59 am
PEN NOTES:
Smart of AVILAN to decline the WBC. Got to lock down his slot in the pen, and get rested for his first full ML season. He’s still pitching down south currently.
I’m hoping the VULTURE has been resting that arm this off-season.
I’m looking forward to the competition for DURBIN’s and MARTINEZ’ slots in the pen.
I’m supposing CHAD is still a free agent. I don’t believe we have re-signed him have we? If not, we could still I suppose.
CARPENTER is totally unknown to me. DAVID had a miserable 2012 mostly in HOUSTON then TORONTO. 1.48 2011 WHIP; 2.07 2012 WHIP; Combined 1.80 WHIP; Age 27, age 28 July 15.
JAIME is a flame-thrower himself, but very inconsistant. JUAN strikes out batters galore one game, then allows walks and hits in bunches the next.
Seems that has been a knock on WALDEN too. Plus I thought I read somewhere, JORDAN had a shoulder issue as well.
Anything on that DOB? Was that arm misery CARPENTER’s?
Cliff Fiscal
January 8th, 2013
11:01 am
I think yesterday’s game speaks more about Alabama’s greatness. Unlike Texas A&M and UGA, Notre Dame played a fresh and strong Alabama team in which Satan (I mean Saban) had weeks to prepare. Notre Dame has nothing of which to be ashamed, IMHO.
CrαZy
January 8th, 2013
11:03 am
DAP
I agree that the SEC is by far the strongest conference in football. But ND had a difficult schedule on paper if USC, Michigan and Mich st hadn’t bombed this year I would’ve put their schedule up against anyone’s.
richbrave
January 8th, 2013
11:04 am
DAP:
“Exposed for what they were”……. pretenders. O and D line play totally dominated by ALABAMA
BARRETT JONES to the REDSKINS…..hail!
richbrave
January 8th, 2013
11:06 am
Well I’m getting a cap to match my jersey. Got a lot of compliments on it at the NATS game this past season.
Cliff Fiscal
January 8th, 2013
11:07 am
Only here can a poster named PureEvil wish God to have mercy on another poster’s soul.
George_George
January 8th, 2013
11:09 am
Think UGA would have given BAMA a closer game.
Cliff Fiscal
January 8th, 2013
11:10 am
Ok, Braves managment, it is time for something new to chew on regarding the roster and/or possible trades. Even if Wren must announce that Constanza and Schafer are having a pie-eating contest for the back-up outfield position, issue it now.
DAP
January 8th, 2013
11:12 am
crazy But ND had a difficult schedule on paper if USC, Michigan and Mich st hadn’t bombed this year I would’ve put their schedule up against anyone’s.
…? but USC, Michiigan and Michigan state dd bomb. ( actually michigan wasnt horrible). were not talking about what it looked like it was gonna be, were talking about what happened. ND may have scheduled what they thought was a tuff year, but if those team had been better, ND may not have beaten them. i would say there was no tougher path to the national title game than through the SEC west this year. and, thats usually the case, if a team makes it to that game out of the SEC, they probably had the toughest path.
DAP
January 8th, 2013
11:13 am
richbrave I’m looking forward to the competition for DURBIN’s and MARTINEZ’ slots in the pen.
what happened to martinez?
TheOnlyBravesFan
January 8th, 2013
11:17 am
Think UGA would have given BAMA a closer game.
They already did… in the SEC Championship, aka as the unofficial National Championship.
TheOnlyBravesFan
January 8th, 2013
11:19 am
Martinez is here as far as I know… I’d let him go, but whatever…
for me, I’d go with Kimbrel, EOF, Walden, JV, Gearrin, Avilan, Flande/Hale
I think we’ll see Kimbrel, EOF, Walden, JV, Gearrin, Avilan, Martinez
Gearin may fight it out with some of the new guys brought onto the 40man (Jaime, Hale, etc.) but with him having the big league experience, I think he wins out.
DAP
January 8th, 2013
11:21 am
TOBF, what do you have against martinez?
Cliff Fiscal
January 8th, 2013
11:21 am
The fair question is whether UGA would have given Alabama a closer game than ND in the actual title game, with both teams having weeks to prepare as opposed to the SEC Championship. Probably, because UGA is more athletic than ND and capable of matching up better. However, UGA did not exactly drill Nebraska, a team inferior to ND.
keyLargo.
January 8th, 2013
11:22 am
RichBrave – I always think about the Redskins glory years with John Riggins running through giant holes made the linemen nicknamed the Hogs or something close to that. And I’ll never forget Riggins getting drunk on the banquet circuit and telling the Supreme Court Judge Sandra Day O’connor to “loosen up Sandy Baby – you’re too tight”. He was one of a kind.
CrαZy
January 8th, 2013
11:24 am
DAP… I completely agree I was mostly addressing people that hate on ND by saying they always schedule themselves crap games. I think Alabama would’ve destroyed any team in the country with the way they played last night. I just don’t know who would’ve been more deserving to play them other than ND? I would’ve liked to see Oregon, but they had a loss and their schedule might’ve been worse than Notre Dame’s.
Lew
January 8th, 2013
11:24 am
I think it’s quite possible you see either Teheran or Delgado in long relief and not Martinez.
jbailz23
January 8th, 2013
11:24 am
Puma – People didn’t think we could keep up with the Saints offense either. To be honest I’d feel more comfortable going into this game with Smith behind Center. But if, IF Kaep can play to 1/2 of his potential we win this game. The Packers defense is weak, ours is not.
DAP
January 8th, 2013
11:25 am
cliff fiscal, However, UGA did not exactly drill Nebraska, a team inferior to ND.
they handled nebraska pretty good. the question of would uga have given bama a tougher game in the “actual” title game…yes of course. we saw how they matched up with bama.
TheOnlyBravesFan
January 8th, 2013
11:27 am
nothing against him, but he’s a long relief guy, gets hit a bit, 7th guy in the pen. Don’t trust him over any of the other guys… making more than the min, and is already 30.
unbelievable
January 8th, 2013
11:29 am
There is zero reason to cut Martinez loose and to let Teheran/Delgado rot in a long relief role. He is a good RH’d arm to have in the pen.
jbailz23
January 8th, 2013
11:29 am
CraZy – I think the way Bama was playing last night they would have beat several NFL teams (Raiders, Chiefs, Browns, etc.)
TheOnlyBravesFan
January 8th, 2013
11:30 am
I think it’s quite possible you see either Teheran or Delgado in long relief and not Martinez.
As long as it’s Teheran in long relief to start the season….
CrαZy
January 8th, 2013
11:31 am
Cliff Fiscal…. If UGA had beaten USC east that argument would be valid… If ND wasn’t in the title game there was at least 2 or 3 teams more deserving.
Lew
January 8th, 2013
11:35 am
TOBF – What? No love for Christhian? He strikes out almost a hitter per inning. Thought that was what you valued in pitchers. Or is it only in pitchers you’re making a case for?
Cliff Fiscal
January 8th, 2013
11:37 am
DAP – I understand what you are saying. But remember last year when LSU beat Alabama in the regular season, and then Alabama shut them down in the actual title game – 21-0. Giving Saban time to prepare verses giving Ricct time to prepare – Advantage Saban and Alabama.
CraZy – Most arguments (even some of mone) are valid to some degree as we are merely giving our flawed opinions.
CrαZy
January 8th, 2013
11:37 am
CraZy – I think the way Bama was playing last night they would have beat several NFL teams (Raiders, Chiefs, Browns, etc.)
No chance!! NFL teams are like 32 College all star teams. More than half of Alabama’s players have no shot at the NFL… They’d get murdered!!
DAP
January 8th, 2013
11:37 am
crazy I just don’t know who would’ve been more deserving to play them other than ND? I would’ve liked to see Oregon, but they had a loss and their schedule might’ve been worse than Notre Dame’s.
deserving is a tricky question. i am almost always disappointed by bowl game matchups, because i dont get to see the games i wish we would see. i didnt mind the UGA nebraska matchup, although i would have rather seen UGA in the sugar bowl vs. louisville. i also liked the Chick fil a bowl matchup. oregon is tricky because the didnt play in their championship game, but i would have rather seen them vs. alabama. i also wish FSU and USC (gamecocks) had a better bowl game matchup. as a whole, im usually more disappointed by bowl season than i am excited. as an SEC fan, most of the best matchups happen during the regular season, and the cross conference ones you want to see rarely do.
im very interested in UGA vs clemson next year. think that one should be annual.
im excited about the playoff, because i think it makes it more likely to see some good matchups.
CrαZy
January 8th, 2013
11:38 am
Well they have a shot, but most won’t make it!!
DAP
January 8th, 2013
11:41 am
cliff fiscal But remember last year when LSU beat Alabama in the regular season, and then Alabama shut them down in the actual title game – 21-0. Giving Saban time to prepare verses giving Ricct time to prepare – Advantage Saban and Alabama.
yes, but no one thought that would happen with LSU. is youre going to assume (which is all you can do in a given situation) you have assume a similar outcome, i think. doesnt mean it will happen that way.
TheOnlyBravesFan
January 8th, 2013
11:42 am
.277/.319/.426/.745 last year… in 2011, sure he did well, but had a .220 BABIP against him. I don’t feel very confident using him outside of mopup situations, and the only time I can remember him being used in a tied or close game was in extras…. he’s not pitching over any one else in our bullpen. Making more than the minimum, let Hale have the job. He can throw hard, was a starter in the minors, can mop up for us.
LawDawg
January 8th, 2013
11:47 am
Why do I care if some whiny white sportswriter (or uniform blogger…seriously, how is that a thing?) thinks is offensive to Natives.
If there is an outpouring of anger from natives, then do away with the hat (and the Cleveland logo, which has to be more offensive than that), if it is just some sportswriters looking for press with no Native heritage, screw them.
Lew
January 8th, 2013
11:48 am
Career sub 4.00 ERA (not bad for the amount of innings he pitches), averages about 50 some appearances, WHIP of 1.19, 3-1 K to BB ratio, pitches an average of 1 2/3 IP per appearance, capable of pitching six innings when needed or spot starting.
Nothing at all wrong with him as long reliever, except we may well have an embarrassment of riches – the ONLY reason he may not be poencilled in at that role yet again.
TheOnlyBravesFan
January 8th, 2013
11:49 am
Varvaro is another option…
Lew
January 8th, 2013
11:50 am
And I think you can count out any rookie relievers even cracking the pen in ATlanta this year short of injuries, unless it’s either of Teheran or Delgado in long relief instead of sending them down to Gwinnett yet again. This pen is deep and solid – no room for untired rookies – maybe next year.
Lew
January 8th, 2013
11:54 am
Varvaro is way too inconsistent to be the long reliever. But they would still have him in the pen before all thoise Gwinnett babies you think would work so well.
TheOnlyBravesFan
January 8th, 2013
12:06 pm
Not yet….
http://www.talkingchop.com/2013/1/8/3844042/braves-extension-analysis-freddie-freeman
Nothing at all wrong with him as long reliever
At 500k, which he’s not…. not a big deal regardless, but he’s a 7th reliever. We should be able to use a “rookie” as our 7th reliever, basically a mop up guy, and get decent results.
DAP
January 8th, 2013
12:10 pm
TOBF I don’t feel very confident using him [martinez] outside of mopup situations,
such is the life of your long man.
TheOnlyBravesFan
January 8th, 2013
12:14 pm
LaRoche back to the Nats, 2 years… guess Morse is on the way out
such is the life of your long man.
Why I wouldn’t pay more than the min. if I had other options… not a big deal I guess, but just my (strange) opinion
Jeff R
January 8th, 2013
12:20 pm
Morse will be gone. Smart for the Nats to bring back The Roach.
TheOnlyBravesFan
January 8th, 2013
12:22 pm
Ben Duronio @Ben_Duronio
EOF for Morse
Haha, that’d be nice
Jeff R
January 8th, 2013
12:28 pm
Lew, I can’t imagine Teheran or Delgado in the pen. One of the two is going to Gwinnett. My guess is Teheran. The kid needs more seasoning and Delgado performed credibly in his stint as a starter for Atlanta last year, despite iffy winter work. I think Delgado has an edge over Teheran in the early going.
Jeff R
January 8th, 2013
12:32 pm
Eric ain’t going to the Nats, and Morse ain’t coming south to Atlanta. Benny is full of beans.
Jeff R
January 8th, 2013
12:32 pm
Eric ain’t going to the Nats, and Morse ain’t coming south to Atlanta. Benny is full of beans.
Lew
January 8th, 2013
12:37 pm
Jeff R – Yeah, OK. Can’t imagine them in long relief and can’t imagine them back in Gwinnett for a third year, yet it’s looking more likely neither is traded. If not, then one of the other options is what you’re left with for whichever one of them doen’t get the fifth rotation slot. Just no way around it.
TheOnlyBravesFan
January 8th, 2013
12:37 pm
From what I’ve read, seems that the Braves FO has the 5th starter job as Teheran’s to lose…. don’t see why though, he’s got work to do on that curveball. Guess they started hating Delgado on July 22…
Murph
January 8th, 2013
12:38 pm
So much for Freeman and Teheran to Miami for Stanton trade and signing Laroche scenario… dammit!
TheOnlyBravesFan
January 8th, 2013
12:45 pm
John Kincade @JohnKincade
I don’t like the Falcons to beat the Seahawks. I LOVE them to beat the Seahawks. This not coming from an ATL “homer”.
Loved us to beat the Giants big too…. we know what happened lol. I agree with him
Jeff R
January 8th, 2013
12:49 pm
Lew, another reason I think Delgado gets the the fifth spot is that Wren has shown a willingness to trade him. Delgado may still be on Wren’s trade bait list. A good showing by Delgado in the bigs might make him more valuable and desireable for a trade partner. On the other hand,, if he stinks it up, so much for my theory.
Jeff R
January 8th, 2013
12:49 pm
Lew, another reason I think Delgado gets the the fifth spot is that Wren has shown a willingness to trade him. Delgado may still be on Wren’s trade bait list. A good showing by Delgado in the bigs might make him more valuable and desireable for a trade partner. On the other hand,, if he stinks it up, so much for my theory.
TheOnlyBravesFan
January 8th, 2013
12:49 pm
If both Teheran and Delgado are still here come OD, rather see them at the MLB level than in AAA to see their value drop. Just as long as Delgado is starting
Lew
January 8th, 2013
12:51 pm
Murph – Have you received the drawing yet?
Lew
January 8th, 2013
1:02 pm
I’m thinking there is not going to be the trade so many have been waiting for.
Efrim
January 8th, 2013
1:03 pm
Laroche back to the Nationals on a two year deal. Nice lineup:
CF Span
LF Werth
RF Harper
3B Zimmerman
1B Laroche
SS Desmond
2B Espinosa
C Ramos/Suzuki
Gonna be tough to finish with a better record than them considering the great, young starting pitching they have.
Efrim
January 8th, 2013
1:07 pm
I’m a Niner fan and I usually take a cautious approach with them. But I do believe they will defeat the Packers. Just a much more physical offensive and defensive fronts than the Packers. Justin Smith is a big question mark though. If he were 100% healthy, I would pick them to win the Super Bowl.
Sherman
January 8th, 2013
1:17 pm
Enter your comments here
TheOnlyBravesFan
January 8th, 2013
1:17 pm
http://capitolavenueclub.com/?p=8145
ncscoots
January 8th, 2013
1:24 pm
Gonna be tough to finish with a better record than them considering the great, young starting pitching they have.
The difference in the two clubs last year was only their season series. If the Braves had gone 10-8 instead of 8-10, they would have been dead even. I don’t think they are going to be as hard to catch as you think.
DAP
January 8th, 2013
1:25 pm
efrim, the nats lineup really does look good. nice and balanced. i think there is a decent chance though, that it doesnt perform like it looks like it should on paper. braves will need to hope for some regression from laroche, desmond, and maybe that will be their opening.
TheOnlyBravesFan
January 8th, 2013
1:26 pm
One area of concern could be the rotation, though this projection is very positive. Can Hudson remain effective at 37/38? How will Medlen perform in his first full season as a starter? Will Minor continue his second-half roll, or will he continue to battle his Jekyll-and-Hyde demon? How will Teheran and/or Delgado progress in their transition(s) from top prospects to major-league cogs? And how will Beachy perform when he comes back from Tommy John surgery? While this is a talented and deep rotation, it is not one of pedigree, and if the wheels fall off, this is where I’d expect it to start. That being said, there were significant and real improvements made by Medlen and Minor in the second half, and with a full season from each of them (barring injury), the rotation could very well improve from 2012. 15 wins here would have made this the 8th most valuable rotation in baseball in 2012, up from the actual 17th place finish.
As things currently stand, the Braves have a 90-winish team for 2013, and 90 wins firmly places the team in playoff contention. But fear not, this already looks like a playoff-caliber team even if the Braves don’t add anyone.
Around 90 wins to me, but yes, the rotation is the biggest concern. Hope the wheels don’t fall off up there.
Xmen
January 8th, 2013
1:28 pm
I was just thinking that if Ohio St. Was not ineligibile , Alabama would not have been invited. That is why a playoff system is needed.
jbill
January 8th, 2013
1:32 pm
@ 11:01 Only thing ,Cliff, that ND has to be ashamed of…they got their a@@ beat, thats enough.
Sherman
January 8th, 2013
1:33 pm
Dave, Your article on the Indian head logo hat was thoughtful and reasonable. I appreciate that and wish to respond. As a teacher of American Indian Studies, I can assure you that many native people
would be hurt and offended by that hat, just as they are by the Cleveland Indians hat. Of course, you can not get all people of any group to agree on any issue, so it is unfair to expect all indians to have one viewpoint. Those who don’t care or support mascots are mostly assimilated indians who don’t know their culture, language, and traditions. Most traditionals and virtually all modern day Indian educators are strongly opposed to the one dimensional stereotyping that indian mascots represent. If it is really such an honor, then why are there no teams in any sport named after black people? Could we not be the African Tribal Braves and replace the tomahawk chop with the African Spearchuck? Could we not do some chant that we think Africans used to do? Could we not put Black Sambo on our hats? Of course not! Our large and proud black community would not allow it. So why do we keep doing these things to Indian people? The fighting Irish argument is weak because the Irish people do not protest against Notre Dame. The Irish were not victims of genocide in this country for 500 years. The Irish did not have over 300 treaties broken, nor were they victims of inhumane massacres. If Indian people do not trust our intentions, it is for good reason. This has nothing to do with political correctness. It has everything to do with human decency and respect for another people’s culture.
TheOnlyBravesFan
January 8th, 2013
1:34 pm
Strasburg, Gio, Zimmerman are 3 legit #1-2 guys… Detweiler and Haren are #2-3 guys… Got Ramos back, Harper for a full season, finally get their leadoff guy and CF Span, LaRoche back in the fold… team is scary. And they won 98 last year without having all these “improvements”. Could see them around 95 again.
Medlen, Minor, Hudson are our top 3… maybe Medlen could be a 1-2, but for now, I have to consider him a 3. Same with Minor, despite what Duronio tries to say. Huddy’s aging, been in a bit of a decline the last 3 years, he’s a 3 to me. Maholm is a low end 3 or 4, who knows what we get from the 5 spot. Decent lineup, but BJ doesn’t replace Bourn, we don’t know who our LF/3B is, not sure how Mac and Uggla will rebound. But we have Simmons for a full year, Heyward and Freeman should improve, hopefully our LF is good. But I don’t see us passing the Nats right now. They lost out on 5 strasburg starts last year, and a bunch of games from Ramos. Having those 2 for the season is an improvement for them.
Nothing against our Braves, but right now, the Nationals are the better team. In my humble opinion.
RC
January 8th, 2013
1:36 pm
Nothing against our Braves, but right now, the Nationals are the better team. In my humble opinion.
I agree with you, on paper. But the great thing about baseball is that we’ll get 162 games to decide who’s really better.
ncscoots
January 8th, 2013
1:43 pm
The Irish were not victims of genocide in this country for 500 years. The Irish did not have over 300 treaties broken, nor were they victims of inhumane massacres.
Regardless of your feelings on the logo, you really should check some facts before using this kind of stuff to buttress your argument. At least, read the history of the Irish in both their own country and this one before relegating them to persecution also-rans.
reagan
January 8th, 2013
1:51 pm
Sherman……………………….WHERE do you teach?
raleighbravefan
January 8th, 2013
2:03 pm
TOBF – I’m not sure why you are so negative on Teheran, but I am sure that the Braves FO has a much higher opinion of him and his potential than you do…hell, so does nearly everyone else.
Of course, you could be the only one that is right. Time will tell. BTW, there is nothing “humble” about your opinions.
TheOnlyBravesFan
January 8th, 2013
2:09 pm
Scouting Report: Julio Teheran (RHP)
Expectations have to change and he looks more like a number three starter with a tantalizing FB-CH combination.
Body (6-2, 180): Lanky frame with long legs and a high waist. Wiry strength. Appears projectable but body hasn’t changed in 2-3 years. He is what he is and he has a solid-average body.
Curveball (CB): Extremely inconsistent and unreliable. No command of CB.
http://baseballprospectnation.com/2012/08/21/scouting-report-julio-teheran-rhp/
http://blogs.ajc.com/atlanta-braves-blog/2013/01/02/on-the-braves-indian-head-logo-future-catching-and-lf/?cp=all#comment-1919771
BravePack(FreeFan)
January 8th, 2013
2:17 pm
jbailz23
January 8th, 2013
11:24 am
Puma – People didn’t think we could keep up with the Saints offense either. To be honest I’d feel more comfortable going into this game with Smith behind Center. But if, IF Kaep can play to 1/2 of his potential we win this game. The Packers defense is weak, ours is not.
I think you are in for a rude awakening buddy and all your SF Niner friends too. You keep thinking the Packers D is weak. They were missing Matthews for over a month, Woodson for almost the whole year and important D-Lineman during the year and still put up good numbers. Now everyone is back, healthy, and well rested. I get the feeling a lot of you don’t watch any games besides you fav teams and just spout crap to make yourselves feel better. I’m telling you Rodgers playing against his favorite childhood team who passed on him at the draft against a rookie QB who will be rusty from the bye week and nervous as heck playing in his 1st playoff game. Packers will win Saturday and you Niner fans better prepare yourself for it.
Murph
January 8th, 2013
2:20 pm
Wasn’t that scouting report written before Teheran fixed his delivery this winter? Seems that he was 2 different pitchers when using the 2 different deliveries.
TOBF, maybe you should wait until the spring before passing judgement. See him throw a few ST games. Go from there.
BravePack(FreeFan)
January 8th, 2013
2:22 pm
And if you think that Kaepernick playing at 1/2 his potential will beat the Packers you really are clueless and know nothing about football.
raleighbravefan
January 8th, 2013
2:27 pm
Scouting report by WHO? When? Easy to find someone’s opinion to throw out there. Hell, I can give you my scouting report, but it doesn’t mean squat.
ncscoots
January 8th, 2013
2:28 pm
Seems that he was 2 different pitchers when using the 2 different deliveries.
I haven’t been really clear on this. They tweaked his mechanics, certainly, and perhaps it took longer for him to get comfortable with the changes, leading to a lost year at AAA. Then, Frank saw him on the Caribbean trip and said he looked more fluid. But was that because he was finally comfortable with the change in mechanics, or did they tell him to junk the changes and just go back to how he threw originally? My original thought was the former, but there was at least one report that spoke of the latter.
Whichever is correct does have some bearing on how the kid goes forward.
TheOnlyBravesFan
January 8th, 2013
2:29 pm
even if he went back to the old delivery, wasn’t the knock on him before that he couldn’t spin a curveball? And he went to the new delivery and still couldn’t do it. Eh, need to see it.
Hurry up spring.
raleighbravefan
January 8th, 2013
2:29 pm
TOBF – I will give you this…you make up your mind about something, and there’s no changing it…whether it’s based on reality or not. Some would call it obsessive.
Murph
January 8th, 2013
2:31 pm
How old is Teheran? 21? 22?
He’ll develop some sort of breaking pitch. Sooner or later.
TennesseePaul
January 8th, 2013
2:33 pm
Gonna be tough to finish with a better record than them considering the great, young starting pitching they have.
That, and the Braves loss of their best hitter from 2012. It’s hard to see how this offense improved over last year’s with the moves made.
ncscoots
January 8th, 2013
2:45 pm
It’s hard to see how this offense improved over last year’s with the moves made.
Not that hard, if you consider the probability that Heyward and Freeman improve, that McCann and Uggla will have better years, and that Simmons will hit a little bit. Upton is no Chipper, certainly, but there are ways to make up that offense other than a one-to-one replacement.
Now, if one considers that the 2012 Heyward/Freeman/McCann/Uggla is what you are going to get in 2013, I can see why one might be pessimistic. I happen to disagree with that view, though.
DAP
January 8th, 2013
2:45 pm
TOBF Nothing against our Braves, but right now, the Nationals are the better team. In my humble opinion.
i agree, but that margin is made by the rotation, not the lineup. the braves lineup is probably as good as washington’s.
sherman…what scoots said. plus, yes, actually it IS about political correctness.
TennesseePaul
January 8th, 2013
2:50 pm
Not that hard, if you consider the probability that Heyward and Freeman improve, that McCann and Uggla will have better years, and that Simmons will hit a little bit
I do scoots, but that is all negated by equally probable improvements from other teams offensive players. Thus, it returns a zero sum minus the lack of the best hitter from 2012 for the Braves. Where as it could have been, through player acquisition, a sum of improvement from the hold-over players as well as a step up in production for the acquisition players. Alas, it is not.
Now, if one wants to assume only the Braves hitters improve year over year, and all other teams will remain exactly the same, I could see why one might be overly optimistic in the Braves offense. I happen to disagree with that lopsided view, though. ( :
TheOnlyBravesFan
January 8th, 2013
2:50 pm
It’s hard to see how this offense improved over last year’s with the moves made.
But we took Chipper’s (and Bourn’s unusually high number) of HRs, added a few more to that, and get that from 1 player! Thunder.
Still doesn’t replace the run value of Bourn though, which is why I don’t see the offense as being better. Yet.
ncscoots
January 8th, 2013
2:57 pm
but that is all negated by equally probable improvements from other teams offensive players.
I didn’t know that was the question, LOL. What I read was:
It’s hard to see how this offense improved over last year’s with the moves made.
That is, this offense. I don’t know how the rest of the league will fare with “improvements”, but I fully expect the Braves to exceed last year’s 700 runs, thus, “improved”.
TennesseePaul
January 8th, 2013
2:58 pm
But we took Chipper’s (and Bourn’s unusually high number) of HRs, added a few more to that, and get that from 1 player! Thunder.
Or, another way of looking at it, the team took a combined .359 OBP of two key players and replaced it with a .336 OBP (.316 over the last 4 years). That’s more outs.
unbelievable
January 8th, 2013
2:58 pm
Id offer EOF for Morse