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keyLargo.
January 4th, 2013
11:18 am
Breaking Away was a movie and a TV series.
Coach (2013, Is the future now?)
January 4th, 2013
11:20 am
Recommended reading for Frank Wren, Fredi Gonzalez and anybody else in the Braves organization because I’m tired of beating this horse to death……….
http://www.redbullusa.com/cs/Satellite/en_US/Article/How-the-San-Francisco-Giants-really-won-the-World-Series-021243276322862
Jeff R
January 4th, 2013
11:20 am
You don’t see any teams named the Nazis, Klansmen, Serial Killers, etc.
Absolutely, keyLargo.
TheOnlyBravesFan
January 4th, 2013
11:20 am
ah, the confusion it’s causing here too! lol, he writes for CAC and Fangraphs…
4 WAR pitcher (4 wins!!!)
if there was anyone higher on Minor than Lew, it’s probably Ben.
chipl1960
January 4th, 2013
11:24 am
Why would a contending team make a trade that helps one area but creates a weakness in another area? It is a team that is desperate. The Braves are not in that category. No matter what some of you continually say on here, this team, at present, is a 90+ win team. What deal can be made to get an extra 5-7 wins without cleaning out the farm system thus mortgaging the next 3-5 years? IMO this is what our front office is thinking. If you go all in and have no plan B you can expect to get fired. Look at the Tex deal. It was a 5 for 1. Feliz, Andrus, Harrison, and Salty are all playing AND contributing in MLB now. Even for 3 years of control on Justin Upton, I would not send them our best talent in the minors PLUS at least one current player on the 25 man roster, possibly 2. When you look at it this way, it is easy to see why we stand pat at this point. Now if the price goes down………………..
TheOnlyBravesFan
January 4th, 2013
11:24 am
Pitchers who were around 4WAR last year… Matt Harrison, Matt Cain, Hiroki Kuroda, Anibal Sanchez, Josh Johnson, James Shields.
He is really high on Mike… too high, maybe
RC
January 4th, 2013
11:25 am
Murph,
That Karate Kid post was awesome. I’m now tempted to go watch the movie while going step-by-step through this guy’s “running diary”.
Jeff R
January 4th, 2013
11:27 am
He is really high on Mike… too high, maybe
On second thought, Benny might be onto something.
Murph
January 4th, 2013
11:37 am
RC, I was reading that while watching the movie and had tears in my eyes I was laughing so hard. Maybe it was because the post reminded me of something I would write, I dunno… it just really struck me as funny.
Karate Kid was and still is one of my favorite “popcorn” movies.
George_George
January 4th, 2013
11:42 am
Good morning all
If we must get another outfielder [ I would rather spend the 10 mill or so on signing PRADO ] i would prefer signing BOURN again to tradeing for UPTON. The only UPTON I would want is KATE.
Enquiring Minds Want To Know
January 4th, 2013
11:43 am
Am I still in the jailhouse?
Murph
January 4th, 2013
11:43 am
What deal can be made to get an extra 5-7 wins without cleaning out the farm system thus mortgaging the next 3-5 years?
Looking at the next 3-5 years, knowing where the Braves are going to be as far as having dollars to spend versus what other teams will have to spend…. is mortgaging the future that bad of an idea?
There’s little to no chance that the team will be able to secure the larger free agents during that span. They won’t have the dollars to outbid other teams for the better players.
There’s little to no chance that the team will promote a high-caliber player during that time as well. After Teheran and Delgado, the farm system is almost completely void of legitimate MLB potential.
On a similar note, there’s little to no chance the team will be able to trade for “premium” players during that time for the same reason… the few chips that they have will be needed at the MLB level.
So…. in my opinion…. the team can either go all-in now in an attempt to win the World Series knowing that it’s going to be more and more difficult to field a competitive team in the years to come or they can sit on the few prospects they have in an effort to hang on for as long as they can.
I’d rather see the team go big and try to win than go small and try not to lose. In my view there’s a big difference between the two.
TennesseePaul
January 4th, 2013
11:50 am
Mark Redman
He’s an All-Star.
DAP
January 4th, 2013
11:52 am
What deal can be made to get an extra 5-7 wins without cleaning out the farm system thus mortgaging the next 3-5 years?
the next 3-5 years isnt in the farm system, its in atlanta already. do you realize how young this team is? the braves have AAA talent they dont need and probably wont.
Enquiring Minds Want To Know
January 4th, 2013
11:55 am
For days my comments have been goin to “awaiting moderation” limbo, even though they were already very moderate. I felt like a Johnny Cash song character- stuck in Folsom Prison.
George_George
January 4th, 2013
11:55 am
BJ first two full years BA .286 next four years BA .242. At his age those years he should have been improveing NOT getting WORSE. Something is VERY WRONG.
abeeeewright
January 4th, 2013
11:57 am
Murph … loved the Karate Kid link. I was never a big fan of the movie, since I thought Danny was a creep. Hard to root for the guy.
On the FA market … I don’t have as dismal an outlook as you do. Yes, the Braves don’t have money to spend, but consider what they would be spending it on.
Hamilton, Bourn, or Grienke would make an impact on this team in the now. However, they will be getting paid a lot in their waning years to play for someone else. In other words, Angels and Dodgers are going to be paying for fourth OFs or fifth starters like their premium players in the last years of those contracts … even while the players are providing value for some other team.
Consider the mighty Yankees, who went ludicrous a few seasons ago. They’ve even admitted that too much is too much.
I agree on the farm system. But, part of that problem is that it’s graduated a bunch of players who will keep the team going for the next few years. There’s time to draft and develop.
According to the draftinistas, the Braves made a pretty good start at shoring up the system in the last draft. This year will also tell the tale as to where they’re going with their strategy.
TheOnlyBravesFan
January 4th, 2013
11:59 am
next 3-5 years of the team is here right now… Heyward, Freeman, Medlen, Minor, Beachy, Upton, and hopefully Prado…
and we should be able to draft some new pieces for the farm, already got Sims and Wood to get us started pitchingwise. The team is young, I think for the right player, you can afford to “overpay” for a stud player, esp. one under control for 3 years like Justin is.
cabravesfan
January 4th, 2013
12:00 pm
George_George-
Still not going to address why you think his power numbers will fall so much?
Couch Tater
January 4th, 2013
12:01 pm
TennPaul –
Awhile back, you were looking into cheaper alternatives to cable/sat TV. Did you change?
TheOnlyBravesFan
January 4th, 2013
12:02 pm
Greinke shouldn’t be a bad contract at the end of his deal… the man is 28, and a pitcher.
unbelievable
January 4th, 2013
12:10 pm
Doesnt matter if Greinke’s deal will be a bad one at the end of his contract. The Dodgers are brining in $280mil per season from their TV Deal. Braves have to find a way out of this contract soon.
keyLargo.
January 4th, 2013
12:21 pm
BJ first two full years BA .286 next four years BA .242. At his age those years he should have been improveing NOT getting WORSE. Something is VERY WRONG. George George
Go look at McCann’s stats and get back to me with what you find. Same age as BJ.
David O'Brien
January 4th, 2013
12:27 pm
Braves’ five-state country caravan dates set, specific participants TBD
http://blogs.ajc.com/atlanta-braves-blog/2013/01/04/braves-country-caravan-set-for-jan-22-feb-2/
Shaun
January 4th, 2013
12:39 pm
BJ first two full years BA .286 next four years BA .242. At his age those years he should have been improveing NOT getting WORSE. Something is VERY WRONG. George George
I’m not all that concerned about a centerfielder entering his age 28 season in 2013 who had a 102 OPS+ over the last four years.
Michael Bourn had a 98 OPS+ over the last four seasons and is entering his age 30 season in 2013.
Gary O.
January 4th, 2013
12:45 pm
DOB,
Just curious. Do you have a statistician on staff to provide you with your numbers/data, or do you do all the numbers research yourself?
Shaun
January 4th, 2013
1:03 pm
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Gary O.
January 4th, 2013
1:06 pm
N8,
Are you the resident chiefs fan on here? If so, I’m sure you’re excited Scott Pioli is gone. But how do you feel about the new HC (Andy Reid)?
David O'Brien
January 4th, 2013
1:08 pm
DOB,
Just curious. Do you have a statistician on staff to provide you with your numbers/data, or do you do all the numbers research yourself? — Gary O.
Ha. The thought of a statistician on staff for a newspaper’s sportswriters would have been a pipe dream even back in the day when we had staffs two or three times as large as they are now.
In answer to your question, I do my own stats, always have. Don’t know any newspaper writers who have access to a statistician to do the kind of stats we use in our daily work.
Brava
January 4th, 2013
1:09 pm
I like the new proposed BP caps. That said, I’ve read several articles (mostly rants) against them. But, what strikes me as peculiar is that I’ve yet to read a single adverse opinion from anyone claiming to be Native American. In fact, all the rants I’ve read, as well as Twitter comments decrying these caps as racist appear to be written by white men. I’ve always found it curious how some will mount a soapbox to assuage their internalized feelings of guilt.
To each their own. I will definitely buy one of these caps if the detractors don’t get their way and the caps actually make it to market.
Lane Kiffin
January 4th, 2013
1:15 pm
Brava check out the bottom of page five for a Venice Jim smack down.
Jeff R
January 4th, 2013
1:17 pm
next 3-5 years of the team is here right now… Heyward, Freeman, Medlen, Minor, Beachy, Upton, and hopefully Prado…
Who’s that kid at shortstop? Oh, Simmons, that’s right. He’s here too.
Pitchers – some good young arms in the system. Never have enough good young pitching.
Ahmed – do the Braves’ transition him to second? Do they keep him?
Cunningham may be a sleeper. Spruill, as well.
There are always prospects who fail to make top ten lists who prove to be solid major leaguers or better.
Brava
January 4th, 2013
1:19 pm
Lane Kiffin -
As I was saying…
Jeff R
January 4th, 2013
1:21 pm
Lane Kiffin? I thought you were a figment of someone’s imagination.
Lane Kiffin
January 4th, 2013
1:25 pm
I mostly just read the comments and post when something noteworthy is going on.
Lane Kiffin
January 4th, 2013
1:28 pm
Venice Jim has put down so many on this blog it is good to see him get some of his own medicine.
David O'Brien
January 4th, 2013
1:31 pm
OK, now get out to that driveway and clean up that pickup truck. — Mr Pitts
So clever you had to post it three times, huh?
cabravesfan
January 4th, 2013
1:33 pm
Someone seems awfully obsessed with VJ.
ncscoots
January 4th, 2013
1:37 pm
So clever you had to post it three times, huh?
Admittedly a poor attempt at humor, but I imagine the triple posting had more to do with the severe suckage of the website than his evaluation of the humor’s quality.
Lane Kiffin
January 4th, 2013
1:37 pm
He posted under some other moniker last night to rip Nick.
ncscoots
January 4th, 2013
1:40 pm
Someone seems awfully obsessed with VJ.
Remember, hate is just the other side of the coin that is love. -phobes of all types really carry secret crushes.
Lane Kiffin
January 4th, 2013
1:40 pm
Just amusing that someone who devotes so much time to putting others down gets it from the chief.
Then he leaves for a few days with no comment.
George_George
January 4th, 2013
1:41 pm
keyLargo.
January 4th, 2013
12:21 pm
BJ first two full years BA .286 next four years BA .242. At his age those years he should have been improveing NOT getting WORSE. Something is VERY WRONG. George George
Go look at McCann’s stats and get back to me with what you find. Same age as BJ.
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Point taken, but difference is BJ not a catcher, catchers age faster. But still strange stats for both of them
Lane Kiffin
January 4th, 2013
1:43 pm
I didn’t know you were here to respond to comments concerning Venice Jim.
TennesseePaul
January 4th, 2013
1:46 pm
Awhile back, you were looking into cheaper alternatives to cable/sat TV. Did you change?
Yep. That was almost a year ago today. I haven’t been so happy as I have in this past year. Just wonderful. I probably would have issues if I lived in a “non-disputed” zone for baseball, or Braves territory. As it is baseball is fighting over the Raleigh area so no baseball is allowed on TV. Cable blacked it out even though it was the Braves FS-South channel.
I severed the Cable. Scariest moment in recent memory. Just cut the chord. Didn’t know what would happen. If I’d be lost out at sea, drowning…
Slapped up an antenna and bought a Roku. I subscribe to MLB.tv and was given the gift of Hulu Plus and Netflix. Couple that with the bazillion streaming Channels available for free on Roku and I pay only for internet access, and what amounts to $10 a month for baseball, all baseball. I’ve got more TV to watch now than I had with cable (even with the super bundled swindling deals of movie packages etc.) And all of it is high definition. The image is better over the air than it ever was with digital HD cable. And with the Hulu/Netflix it is essentially all automatically DVR’d by the next day.
I cannot state enough how freaking awesome it has been. And the money saved… damn that buys a lot of beer.
In addition the music has been improving. As I’ve learned more about the Roku and my setup, I’ve learned out to network all my music to different rooms in my house etc. I have access to my entire library as well as Pandora, Amazon Cloud, and just about everything else.
David O'Brien
January 4th, 2013
1:47 pm
Seems like a good time for a Johnny Cash moment to set things straight
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhSpaAComXo
George_George
January 4th, 2013
1:50 pm
S/O Lane
I just read commets at bottom of page 5 and can only say I have always said only nice things about VJ, but he has often made fun of my and put down my comments.
Fols
January 4th, 2013
1:54 pm
January 4th and i’ve only managed to listen to ONE of DOB’s top albums of 2012…i’m slipping!
I’m not a huge hip hop fan but Killer Mike or whatever is name is….not a bad one listen. More of a Deftones listener from that list!
Tomahawkin (Suffering Fan)
January 4th, 2013
1:57 pm
S/O’s to Lane, Brava, and George
cabravesfan
January 4th, 2013
2:01 pm
VJ never saw the comment & I did not mention it or any other comment to him. But you can keep bringing it up if you want. Since it seems so important to you
George_George
January 4th, 2013
2:01 pm
Tomahawkin (Suffering Fan)
January 4th, 2013
1:57 pm
Thank you.
flange1
January 4th, 2013
2:01 pm
10Paul,
Which Roku did you get?
Shaun
January 4th, 2013
2:01 pm
Point taken, but difference is BJ not a catcher, catchers age faster. But still strange stats for both of them
Do catchers actually age faster? I’m not so sure. It’s possible that they do and I can see the reasons for believing they do but I’m not sure that it’s a fact. Plus even if catchers typically wear out faster, at what point do they see production drop dramatically? I would guess McCann is not at that age yet, even if it does come sooner than players at other positions.
Another thing that I think we continue to overlook about BJ Upton is that he’s played his home games at the Trop for his whole career. I’m wondering if that may have also affected his defensive metrics, in addition to his offensive numbers.
Mikeyc588
January 4th, 2013
2:01 pm
Great tune DOB. I remember first hearing that song in Dawn of the Dead in theaters back in 04 and immediately going out and buying American IV. Good times.
Brava
January 4th, 2013
2:01 pm
Hey, T. What on earth are you suffering about? It’s off-season.
Tomahawkin (Suffering Fan)
January 4th, 2013
2:07 pm
Brava
“Hey, T. What on earth are you suffering about? It’s off-season.”
We Still need a Effing leadoff Hitter! We are still a 1 and Done team as it stands right now….If we have a Platoon in LF on Opening Day with Schafer and some other Slop, we aren’t going anywhere
Oh and If you want a good read at some Nasty In-Game Blogging? Check out the Philly.com/Eagles Forum…Their Admins used to be hardcore, Hell There was a Poster on there who got Bozo’d for making jokes about cleavage, lol
Its a Total Dumpster fire on there
TennesseePaul
January 4th, 2013
2:08 pm
Reading those Roku 2 XS user responses is amusing. “Con: Needs a TV”. Ha! What the hell was that guy thinking he was buying? Another one: “Con: Needs internet access.” Brutal.
Brava
January 4th, 2013
2:10 pm
TennesseePaul,
My son and his fiance did the same when moving up to Kentucky for him to attend law school. With the price of cable not in their very tight budget, they opted for a Roku and are using her parents’ Netflix account while sharing their Hulu account with her parents.
I spent the past week with them and was very surprised at the quality of television viewing choices compared to what I’m paying for with Comcast. I swear there are days when I can’t find anything to watch and that wasn’t the case at their place.
If my cable wasn’t bundled with my internet and home phone service and I hadn’t just renegotiated a very fair price for all of it by threatening to leave Comcast, I would consider it myself.
Ward
January 4th, 2013
2:12 pm
Hello everyone! it is interesting that the Braves are back in the Justin Upton Trade talks. I don’t know if Wren, has enough, but I would be O.K. In trading Amhed SS, Delgado, or Teheran in a packaged deal. It’s possible Wren, can still get this done, but keep in mind there are other teams too.
Lane Kiffin
January 4th, 2013
2:13 pm
Since you didn’t tell him about it….yeah right….we will let him know when he returns. Wouldn’t want him to miss out on an important message from the chief.
Ward
January 4th, 2013
2:14 pm
I’m thinking how nice the out field would be, Justine Upton, B.J. Upton, Heyward. Balance of power, and speed, and “D”.
TennesseePaul
January 4th, 2013
2:15 pm
I see my previous post went into the ajc server failure bin…
flange1, I picked up a Roku 2 XS. I wanted the ethernet (RJ45) port and the USB port. I didn’t wish to hassle with a wi-fi set up for something I can easily tape to my router with scotch tape, if I wanted. The thing is about 3in square and weighs about 5 ounces. The power cable weighs more than it does. So small I didn’t see the need to wi-fi it. Also of note, my router/tv/ etc are all in the same cabinet/area, so that made it easy.
Ward
January 4th, 2013
2:15 pm
Let me corret that, and say Justin…….
Brava
January 4th, 2013
2:15 pm
We Still need a Effing leadoff Hitter! We are still a 1 and Done team as it stands right now….If we have a Platoon in LF on Opening Day with Schafer and some other Slop, we aren’t going anywhere
I really don’t think Frank will be making any more moves unless something clearly lopsided, like the Uggla deal (at the time), falls into his lap. I see Simmons being groomed for the leadoff spot during ST and, if he struggles, Prado will take the role. I honestly think Frank is going to give Gattis a shot in LF and, you know what? I’m okay with that. It took me a while to get there, but I’d like to see what the kid can do.
njbraves
January 4th, 2013
2:16 pm
Thanks for the update Ward…you take your meds today??
Ward
January 4th, 2013
2:17 pm
My question, is where in the line up would you put Justin Upton?
braves4life
January 4th, 2013
2:18 pm
DOB’s comment- 12:15am Jan3
Venice Jim @ajcbraves I will explain how horrible I find it when I can stop being angry – I was awake for an hour last night with my stomach roiling…
11:06 AM – 3 Jan 13
Tomahawkin (Suffering Fan)
January 4th, 2013
2:19 pm
Braves Caravan coming to Academy Sports in Snellville? Yay, only 4 Miles from The Pad…!
cabravesfan
January 4th, 2013
2:20 pm
Dispite what you wish to believe, we don’t sit around all day and talk about the blog. So, again, I didn’t tell him. And who is “we”? You are the only one that continues to bring it up
Ward
January 4th, 2013
2:20 pm
njbraves – Funny, but It’s all cool. I’m not getting my hopes upon all this though, because Braves have pulled out on Justin Upton talks before.
TennesseePaul
January 4th, 2013
2:22 pm
If my cable wasn’t bundled with my internet and home phone service and I hadn’t just renegotiated a very fair price for all of it by threatening to leave Comcast, I would consider it myself.
When I relocated out here I got swindled too by the cable company. Hated it. I don’t have a home phone. They offered one… “With our swindle you can have home phone for cheap!” As soon as I was able to get out of the swindle I went straight for the streaming system. Oh the phone calls from the cable company are awesome. They still hit me up from time to time. “We can get you all the TV you could ever want, plus internet and phone for less than you spend now!” “Really,” I say, “I’m paying $10 a month for all of this. You can beat that?” I know these jackwagons. They’ll swindle you into the deal, then bump up the cost at your next “renewal” period.
The freedom and the selection is just wonderful.
Plus, I never got into the ultraviolet movie copy thing until just recently. I found the Vudu app on Roku, thought I’d see what that was about. So many of my movies had the UV code. I entered them and the HD 1080p quality they have streaming over the internet is insanely good.
Tomahawkin (Suffering Fan)
January 4th, 2013
2:22 pm
@Brava
Lil Andy Simmons, will be an Ideal #2 hitter once he gets used to the league, Bank on It… I was lusting for Denard Span til the Curley W Got him
I still want Bourn back on a 1 year 15 mill deal, but it wont happen…
BEEJ, Heyward and Bourn in the OF would cover a lot of Real Estate as Don Sutton would say
TheOnlyBravesFan
January 4th, 2013
2:22 pm
My question, is where in the line up would you put Justin Upton?
Easy… cleanup. Much better suited for that spot than his brother… even at his worst lately, he’s been better than BJ. Bossman’s streaky hitting and low OBP are better in the 6 spot than 4.
Prado, Uggla, Heyward, Justin, Freeman, BJ, McCann, Simmons
or, you could hit him 3rd, where he has a .286/.364/.485/.849 career line and go
Prado, Heyward, Justin, Freeman, BJ, Uggla, McCann, Simmons
Either is fine; cleanup would be my preference.
TennesseePaul
January 4th, 2013
2:25 pm
and, you know what? I’m okay with that. It took me a while to get there, but I’d like to see what the kid can do.
You’ve come a long way. Just a few months ago you were calling him Gramps and using that as a major reason why he would never amount to much in the show… “just too old. Yeah, he dropped out of baseball for 4 years, but he should have come back to the game at the highest level after that hiatus.”
Tomahawkin (Suffering Fan)
January 4th, 2013
2:25 pm
Not to mention If Bourn came back??? We would have 3 guys who could steal 20 plus bags, we havent had that since we Had Gant, Nixon, and Sanders, even though Sanders had limited playing time, but Man was he Bad!
74bravesjersey
January 4th, 2013
2:26 pm
Could ya’ll imagine the nicknames from the outfield, drawing from J-Hey RF, BJ-Up CF, J-Up LF; or J-Up to the plate, or the Braves will make some J-Hey w/ the uptown boys,lol any-hoooo, alrighty then just let it go, & sweep it all under the rug.
TennesseePaul
January 4th, 2013
2:26 pm
Sorry Brava, scanned through the page so fast I misread your Gattis post as Efrim… Don’t know why. The spellings are way different.
Brava
January 4th, 2013
2:29 pm
T, I agree about Bourn. Wish the Braves could bring him back for a year, but I wonder which one would play CF if they did. Bourn is clearly a better defensive option than BJ in CF. But, how would BJ feel about moving to LF if that pipe-dream were to happen?
Fols
January 4th, 2013
2:31 pm
If the Braves add another piece anywhere close to Bourn or Upton…you might as well just pencil us into the playoffs.
This time………no jumping around celebrating until you are past the play in date please. Man does that video of them jumping around look rediculous when you don’t get past that single game.
Brava
January 4th, 2013
2:32 pm
That’s okay, TennesseePaul.
Ward
January 4th, 2013
2:34 pm
I don’t want Bourn Back! He can stay on Bours’ lap, and go some where else….
Ward
January 4th, 2013
2:36 pm
Bourn, can take his greed, and shove it! Just my take….
flange1
January 4th, 2013
2:38 pm
Thanks 10Paul.
I need to make some changes to my system and this is a pretty interesting idea!
Ward
January 4th, 2013
2:41 pm
All, have a good one! Good talking again, and hope Wren, can do his magic again? Peace my friends, and talk later, and “Go!!!!!Braves!!!!!”, and “Go!!!!!Notre Dame!!!!!”
RC
January 4th, 2013
2:42 pm
Prado, Heyward, Justin, Freeman, BJ, Uggla, McCann, Simmons
I’d flip Uggla and McCann, but this one is fantastic looking.
TennesseePaul
January 4th, 2013
2:46 pm
flange1, hit me up @gmail if you have any questions. I’d be happy to help.
ncscoots
January 4th, 2013
2:46 pm
I’d flip Uggla and McCann, but this one is fantastic looking.
Is it $10MM better than Gattis at the end of the other 7 guys, though? I’m not so sure.
Tomahawkin (Suffering Fan)
January 4th, 2013
2:48 pm
@Fols
“This time………no jumping around celebrating until you are past the play in date please. Man does that video of them jumping around look rediculous when you don’t get past that single game.”
Co-Sign! On that Celebration Crap, Its Meaningless when you don’t Show Up in a Dumb A.ss Play-in Game, I’m Still Livid abt that game, The Fans Were Turn’t Up that Night just to see the Braves Get Clowned again on their Home Field!
CheeseWhiz This is the Slowest Effing Friday! 3:15 needs to get here! NOW then its Happy Hour!
nolie
January 4th, 2013
2:48 pm
damn shame if Bags does not get elected, there are nothing but suppositions about him and PEDS.
RC
January 4th, 2013
2:51 pm
Is it $10MM better than Gattis at the end of the other 7 guys, though? I’m not so sure.
Considering the value of a marginal win to a team like the Braves who expect to be very close to a playoff berth, absolutely. Even if you expected similar offensive numbers it would mean that Gattis had a damn near perfect 1st season, and it’s completely unreasonable to expect anything close defensively or on the basepaths. Gattis’s upside for 2013 is pretty similar to Upton’s floor for 2013. So the question is whether or not $10 million is worth it to eliminate that risk. Unless there is another, more productive way to use that $10 million (which I am unaware of), then it would certainly be worth it.
cabravesfan
January 4th, 2013
2:52 pm
braves4life-
Here I was all annoyed and getting mad that you posted VJ’s tweeter name on the blog (I read it in the car…) and when i go back and look at it now that I am home I noticed that you removed his handle, thus totally ruining the post I had planned
Tomahawkin (Suffering Fan)
January 4th, 2013
2:53 pm
D.O.B.
I’m Not an Unreasonable Man, but man these Slow #### Response times when you hit Submit button are really Playing with my emotions…Any word on a new Blog Format by the IT staff before the season starts? In-game blogging is gonna be a pain with the slow submit times
Ya know, where we can have member profiles with picture avitars, “Ignore Options”, 2 week Bozo’s, Stripper Poles, etc
You have the power to make it happen
nolie
January 4th, 2013
2:55 pm
OK, now get out to that driveway and clean up that pickup truck….Mr Pitts
talk about an insulting comment…..very offensive
Shaun
January 4th, 2013
2:57 pm
Simmons, will be an Ideal #2 hitter once he gets used to the league, Bank on It…
Simmons’ upside offensively is probably somewhere around a career average Edgar Renteria season. Renteria hit .286/.343/.398. But that doesn’t matter, with an 80 glove and an 80 arm. If he’s quite a bit below that, say around .250/.300/.360 for the bulk of his career, he’ll still be a very valuable player. I suspect that’s a good range, somewhere between those two lines. I suppose there is a chance he could even be a little worse than .250/.300/.360, but even still he would be plenty valuable with his glove and arm.
Tomahawkin (Suffering Fan)
January 4th, 2013
2:57 pm
Brava
January 4th, 2013
2:29 pm
“T, I agree about Bourn. Wish the Braves could bring him back for a year, but I wonder which one would play CF if they did. Bourn is clearly a better defensive option than BJ in CF. But, how would BJ feel about moving to LF if that pipe-dream were to happen?”
@Brava, BEEJ is gonna get Killed on here during the Games, Watch and Bank on it, I have no expectations of him other than he better steal 20+ bases
Word on the Street is that he is another streaky hitter…And we already have enough of those. He might get called Loaf part II
OTOH Im expecting Fab 5 Freddie to Come out Hard, he did well despite the various issues he had last year
74bravesjersey
January 4th, 2013
2:58 pm
Now grant it, lots of K’s predetermined here, If wren really kicks it in gear w/ the 2 headed Guru to have a “Walk N Fletch Hitt’n camp for the hitter’s to work on Hitting Disciplines, having an approach, to battle the count, How to be a tough out, w/o being suckered into flail’n that turns into fail’n. Look for you’re pitch, lay off the pitcher’s pitch, & make him give you you’re pitch. Know you’re (hitting) zone. Be a good 2 strike hitter, don’t be afraid to strike out, but try not to make it a habit. Be aggressive early in the count, but get 2 strikes on you, have the mind set to keep the At Bat alive. Stay alive & wear down that pitcher. Make him be puzzled at what to throw you, not you being a puzzled confused hitter. The pitcher wants to establish as the owner of the plate, but you establish that you take ownership of the At-Bat. You’re GM,Coaches want Good Quality At-Bats from every position player to become established hitters,it’s been stressed at least the last 2 yrs. So how ’bout the idea of Walk’n Fletch camp week. This Years world Champs battled thru w/ good quality At-Bats to slay the Behemoth, Goliath-power like lineup of the Tigers, because the Giants became well disciplined, clutch, good 2 strike Hitters when it really counted. (Wonder who the Hitting Coach is for SanFran,) because, bein’ world champs the past 2 out of 3 yrs. ain’t too shabby. DISCIPLINE IS KEY once again. Good Plate Discipline, Who say’s Hitter’s 1 thru 8 couldn’t be good Disciplined hitters, even still can be good powerful Lineup?
MikeInFl
January 4th, 2013
2:58 pm
It’s not the $10 mil for this year that concerns me. It’s the $14+ mil the next 2 years. We’d blow pretty much any flexibility going forward (having all our money committed, and all our prospects probably traded), and it would make decisions on McCann and Prado all the more difficult.
I’m not against it, though. Let the suits worry about payroll.
Tomahawkin (Suffering Fan)
January 4th, 2013
3:00 pm
@Shaun
Simmons, will be an Ideal #2 hitter once he gets used to the league, Bank on It…—T-Hawkin
“Simmons’ upside offensively is probably somewhere around a career average Edgar Renteria season. Renteria hit .286/.343/.398.”
Agreed on the Renteria Comparisions of Lil Andy.
Renteria was a Bad Ass #2 Hitter, who would kill the Phillies. Renteria had power to the opposite Field which was Dope!
I expect lil Andy to develop more power as he Matures??? He did win the batting title in The Carolina League a few years ago? If I’m not mistaking?
Tomahawkin (Suffering Fan)
January 4th, 2013
3:00 pm
Time for Chuck and Chernoff, BRB
nolie
January 4th, 2013
3:03 pm
I think Durino(sp) ain’t saying Minor will win 4 games, he is saying that his WAR will be over 4