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TennesseePaul
January 2nd, 2013
2:48 pm
Thanks for the work DOB.
I love that logo. Don’t care what others say. It is awesome.
The Real Brave
January 2nd, 2013
2:55 pm
1. Ditch the logo.
2. There is no such thing as a fighting Irish.
3. You need to get over the 17th century. It’s 2013 now.
4. Ditch the logo!
Murph
January 2nd, 2013
2:55 pm
Thanks for the new blog DOB!
Out of Town
January 2nd, 2013
2:56 pm
Why even have the logo that’s going to bring bad press regardless of what you/I think about it. I don’t believe it’s the one they’ll use. No way the Braves want that story following them each day.
TheOnlyBravesFan
January 2nd, 2013
2:56 pm
I love the logo…
Muchas Gracias, Senor O’Brien
David O'Brien
January 2nd, 2013
2:58 pm
2. There is no such thing as a fighting Irish. — The Real Brave
Oh, really?
VaBravesFan
January 2nd, 2013
2:58 pm
Thank for the new blog DOB!
RC
January 2nd, 2013
2:58 pm
Wherever you stand on the logo issue, Franklin Rabon over at Capitol Avenue Club has what I think it a very reasonable take on it.
http://capitolavenueclub.com/?p=8109
VaBravesFan
January 2nd, 2013
2:59 pm
Wren doesn’t have enough prospect talent to even get the Marlins talking, even if he was willing to unload the farm it wouldn’t be enough. Now the DBacks and Justin Upton are a different story, we have enough to get him I think, problem is Wren doesn’t wanna hurt our already bad farm unless he can totally screw someone like he did with the Astro’s.
ncscoots
January 2nd, 2013
3:04 pm
Wren doesn’t have enough prospect talent to even get the Marlins talking, even if he was willing to unload the farm it wouldn’t be enough.
Who says it has to be prospects? Are there no young, controllable players on the ML roster (who, by the way, would carry much more weight than any prospect package from any team) you would be willing to deal for Stanton?
Colorado Brave
January 2nd, 2013
3:04 pm
Never was a fan of that logo even when it was one of the primary logos in the early-to-mid 1980’s. It always seemed cheesy and goofy to me, and yes, I too thought the Indian appeared to be laughing. I would have preferred a hat with the crossed tomahawk logo — or, if MLB absolutely, positively needed a throwback look, the feather logo that was on the sleeves of the mid-1970’s uniform.
ncscoots
January 2nd, 2013
3:05 pm
Wherever you stand on the logo issue, Franklin Rabon over at Capitol Avenue Club has what I think it a very reasonable take on it.
Is Rabon Native American?
VaBravesFan
January 2nd, 2013
3:05 pm
I really have never understood the whole having a issue with team names and logos. I really don’t care but my opinion is people are too sensitive and just need to get over it.
RC
January 2nd, 2013
3:05 pm
As to my take on the logo, I personally think that it looks really cool. That said, I do not find myself qualified to speak on whether not it’s offensive, but the fact that many DO find it offensive, and the fact that the Braves could have very easily avoided this controversy by not bringing it back, make me think that it simply wasn’t a good idea to reintroduce the logo.
Regardless of whether or not it’s overtly offensive, there was no question that it would be received that way by some, making the use of the logo next year a bad PR move and bad business move, IMO.
VaBravesFan
January 2nd, 2013
3:07 pm
Okay if was was to offer Mike Minor, Freddie Freeman, and Randall Delgado for Stanton does that make us a better team?? I don’t think so.
TheOnlyBravesFan
January 2nd, 2013
3:07 pm
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A_IokLZCYAAHhI9.png:large
If the Indians logo is okay for games, why isn’t ours for Batting Practice??
RC
January 2nd, 2013
3:07 pm
Wherever you stand on the logo issue, Franklin Rabon over at Capitol Avenue Club has what I think it a very reasonable take on it.
Is Rabon Native American?
I have no idea. The way he addresses the issue I don’t think it really matters one way or the other.
Reid in EAV
January 2nd, 2013
3:09 pm
Had a pennant with that logo on my bedroom wall as a kid growing up and I still have a soft spot for it. Of course, I still have a soft spot for Chief Noc-A-Homa, and you know he’s not coming back. I’d long ago conceded the fact that the image would have to fade away as a concession to political correctness so I’m a little surprised to see it popping back up officially again. I also note that altered versions of the “Screamin’ Brave” have been making the rounds amongst hipsters for a few years now (I’ve seen skeleton and zombie versions) to the organization may just be trying to make a trademark claim to make the other stuff go away.
JT Grace
January 2nd, 2013
3:09 pm
The same incorrect photo of Gattis was used in a previous blog. That is Ernesto Mejia, NOT Evan Gattis
Al
January 2nd, 2013
3:09 pm
Welcome back DOB!! I like the “screaming” Indian logo and would like to get one of those BP hats.
Jealous of the Live at Folsom Prison LP
TennesseePaul
January 2nd, 2013
3:09 pm
The Mets are sporting a baseball headed man on their caps, and I would think any white guy with a large head would be deeply offended the Mets are exploiting his image for the sake of money.
RC
January 2nd, 2013
3:09 pm
Okay if was was to offer Mike Minor, Freddie Freeman, and Randall Delgado for Stanton does that make us a better team?? I don’t think so.
I dunno. I think if the Braves did that, signed Adam LaRoche to a 3-year deal (or played Mejia at 1b), and went out and found a back-end starter to hold the fort until Beachy came back then it would definitely make the Braves a better team.
Murph
January 2nd, 2013
3:10 pm
Let’s go back to the Atlanta Crackers and change the face from the screaming indian to the weird kid from Deliverance. We could even change the tomahawk to a banjo.
Maybe that would get all the uppity indians to relax.
RC
January 2nd, 2013
3:11 pm
The Mets are sporting a baseball headed man on their caps, and I would think any white guy with a large head would be deeply offended the Mets are exploiting his image for the sake of money.
As a white guy with a large head, I can safely say that there are a very large number of things that offend me about the NY Mets. Mr. Met, however, is not among them.
BravePack(FreeFan)
January 2nd, 2013
3:13 pm
Agree 100% with DOB. Love the logo and will get the BP hat as soon as it comes out. I still don’t see how it is racist. In fact, I think it shows respect to the Native Americans by honoring them and their name along with the image.
VaBravesFan
January 2nd, 2013
3:13 pm
I have alot of family and friends with a good amount of Indian descent and so on, most of them are Redskins fans and have no issues with this at all. My god brother who my parents adopted long long ago his biological father was 100% Indian, my bro loves all sports teams like the Redskins, Indians, Chiefs, and Braves and so on. I’ve never met 1 person that was against any of this, and the only person that I know of in sports that has spoken bad about it is Keith Law, who actually said “I’d never accept a job for the Braves, Redskins, Chief’s and so on”
Slowhiteguy
January 2nd, 2013
3:15 pm
Love the logo….the Indian not only appears as though he’s laughing…he appears a touch stoned.
ncscoots
January 2nd, 2013
3:15 pm
Okay if was was to offer Mike Minor, Freddie Freeman, and Randall Delgado for Stanton does that make us a better team?? I don’t think so
Well, I don’t think you could offer two of your top 7 pitchers, but certainly one of them. Add Gattis to Freeman, since he would then have no OF spot. Add in some filler pitching prospects, if you like.
Sign Adam for three, score 800+ runs.
DAP
January 2nd, 2013
3:15 pm
youre right, DOB. the “screaming savage” isnt screaming, nor is he a savage. he is clearly laughing, or perhaps singing, and despite is rebellious haircut (now a norm for competitive athletes) has clearly had dental work done, and maintains good oral health. obviously he is not a savage.
the FSU guy looks like he just stubbed his toe, is all.
by the way, i love the “screaming savage” emblem and looked very hard years ago for a hat with the symbol. i got one about 4 years ago, but the symbol is becoming more popular, and now i can get the batting practice cap pretty easily, i imagine.
NC Roseman
January 2nd, 2013
3:17 pm
Wren should have spent the $ for Cody Ross, or some veteran outfielder. We need a veteran presence on this club with Chipper retiring, not to mention a proven bat that you can bank on 20 homers, and 75 RBIs. But, we are not in the habit of spending money on anymore than one acquistion per off season, that’s just the way it is.
TheOnlyBravesFan
January 2nd, 2013
3:17 pm
The Black Sox are offended by the White Sox….
BravesFanInNashville
January 2nd, 2013
3:18 pm
DOB….. Great post thank you! Also great lyrics in the song posted. I make my living writing songs and am also a publisher of several hit writers in Nashville. That lyric is brilliant as it moves you without even hearing a melody.
Thanks for all you do. Happy New Year!
Venice Jim
January 2nd, 2013
3:18 pm
Absolutely horrific logic – I am extremely disappointed…
David O'Brien
January 2nd, 2013
3:18 pm
Love the logo….the Indian not only appears as though he’s laughing…he appears a touch stoned. — Slowhiteguy
Ha.
Braveone
January 2nd, 2013
3:20 pm
From the previous blog which had 6,292 comments, TheOnlyBravesFan led the way with 558 posts. There were 380 different poster names. Here are the Top 25:
Rank Poster Frequency
1 TheOnlyBravesFan 558
2 Tom O’Hawke 398
3 nolie 389
4 VaBravesFan 290
5 Lew 223
6 cabravesfan 200
7 richbrave 154
8 ncgary 119
9 old man 117
10 kenhotlanta 115
11 DS1 108
12 David O’Brien 107
13 JC Brave 104
14 uga-brave 98
15 Venice Jim 97
16 Disgusted 91
17 Half Empty 89
18 Heath 89
19 JasonInFL 88
20 George_George 87
21 Ward 79
22 ncscoots 79
23 SNEAKY PETE 77
24 Murph 76
25 Zing 76
Someone Special
January 2nd, 2013
3:20 pm
“someone special gave me a first-pressing Cash”
What’s his name?
TennesseePaul
January 2nd, 2013
3:20 pm
Of all the names the Braves have had, I think the Braves is the best, and the logo is the most awesome there is. I am certainly glad they didn’t stick with the Doves. Ugh. Those are dark times to read about… The Rustler? Bees? Awful names.
CrαZy
January 2nd, 2013
3:20 pm
I love the logo… As soon as they’re available I’ll buy one! Hell I’ll even wear it on my annual trip to Cherokee!!
David O'Brien
January 2nd, 2013
3:22 pm
The same incorrect photo of Gattis was used in a previous blog. That is Ernesto Mejia, NOT Evan Gattis — JT Grace
That is NOT Ernesto Mejia. Not sure if you’re confused about Mejia, but he wears batting glove and has a beard.
To prove the point, I’ll add a photo of Mejia from this winter to the blog.
Oskie
January 2nd, 2013
3:22 pm
Bring back Noc A Homa!
ncscoots
January 2nd, 2013
3:22 pm
the only person that I know of in sports that has spoken bad about it is Keith Law, who actually said “I’d never accept a job for the Braves, Redskins, Chief’s
For which I applaud him, as a man who stands by his principles. Where I draw the line is when Keith tells me that I shouldn’t accept a job with the Braves, Redskins, Chiefs, etc.
Jim Thorpe
January 2nd, 2013
3:23 pm
Why doesn’t anyone say the Vikings logo is racist and depicts a white person as a “savage”? Racism has tragically become a weapon that is invoked selectively to the point that we cannot even discuss true racism anymore.
The political correctness in our society effectively limits free speech, one of our basic rights. At least one person is going to be offended by just about anything said or done. Suppressing the right to express ourselves is a far more egregious offense than offending someone.
Keep the logo!
Braveone
January 2nd, 2013
3:23 pm
From all blogs in 2012 which totals 355,471 comments, nolie led the way with 16486 posts. There were 5,989 different poster names. Here are the Top 100:
Rank Poster Frequency Percent Cumulative_%
1 nolie 16,486 4.6 4.6
2 TheOnlyBravesFan 12,541 3.5 8.2
3 Efrim 10,294 2.9 11.1
4 Venice Jim 9,643 2.7 13.8
5 cabravesfan 8,706 2.4 16.2
6 phil 7,861 2.2 18.4
7 Lew 6,922 1.9 20.4
8 ncscoots 6,573 1.8 22.2
9 VaBravesFan 5,402 1.5 23.8
10 Bat Masterson 5,287 1.5 25.2
11 David O’Brien 4,763 1.3 26.6
12 Murph 4,631 1.3 27.9
13 Ward 4,565 1.3 29.2
14 DS1 4,459 1.3 30.4
15 richbrave 4,439 1.2 31.7
16 Brava 4,398 1.2 32.9
17 brian 4,262 1.2 34.1
18 Disgusted 4,235 1.2 35.3
19 jeffrey d 3,770 1.1 36.4
20 TennesseePaul 3,617 1.0 37.4
21 MFin04 3,600 1.0 38.4
22 Jeff R 3,423 1.0 39.3
23 tiger297 3,275 0.9 40.3
24 The A Bomb 2,990 0.8 41.1
25 Brian from SC 2,896 0.8 41.9
26 raleighbravefan 2,848 0.8 42.7
27 ChattTownBrian 2,823 0.8 43.5
28 Shaun 2,820 0.8 44.3
29 Tomahawkin 2,748 0.8 45.1
30 Jerry 2,481 0.7 45.8
31 cricket 2,429 0.7 46.5
32 ChattTownBrian (CTB) 2,416 0.7 47.1
33 DAP 2,408 0.7 47.8
34 Tomahawk Mafia 2,365 0.7 48.5
35 JC Brave 2,355 0.7 49.2
36 Mark 2,347 0.7 49.8
37 CraZy 2,332 0.7 50.5
38 count_schemula 2,301 0.6 51.1
39 Arkansas Transplant 2,267 0.6 51.8
40 George 2,190 0.6 52.4
41 bravesgrl4life 2,173 0.6 53.0
42 Trey 2,167 0.6 53.6
43 JasonInFL 2,144 0.6 54.2
44 Mixxo 2,107 0.6 54.8
45 ncbravesfan90 2,105 0.6 55.4
46 kenhotlanta 2,036 0.6 56.0
47 McFann :Ô: :Ô: :ô: 2,029 0.6 56.5
48 uga-brave 1,945 0.5 57.1
49 ACE 1,878 0.5 57.6
50 Capt.Mudd 1,849 0.5 58.1
51 abeeewright 1,828 0.5 58.6
52 Ease 1,823 0.5 59.1
53 Sopheee 1,716 0.5 59.6
54 NickB 1,713 0.5 60.1
55 Tom O’Hawke 1,654 0.5 60.6
56 CB 1,634 0.5 61.0
57 Jimmy 1,611 0.5 61.5
58 MIBravesFan 1,579 0.4 61.9
59 RC 1,504 0.4 62.4
60 keylargo 1,473 0.4 62.8
61 Woody Woodward 1,394 0.4 63.2
62 McFann :Ô: :Ô: 1,324 0.4 63.5
63 noleee 1,318 0.4 63.9
64 BFChris27 1,317 0.4 64.3
65 P-Town Brave © 1,302 0.4 64.6
66 Bay Area Steve 1,297 0.4 65.0
67 George_George 1,292 0.4 65.4
68 Bravefaninok 1,254 0.4 65.7
69 Hugo Z Hackenbush 1,238 0.3 66.1
70 TNScott 1,219 0.3 66.4
71 Mitchell 1,214 0.3 66.8
72 njbraves 1,201 0.3 67.1
73 old man 1,196 0.3 67.4
74 ncgary 1,185 0.3 67.8
75 Veer 1,138 0.3 68.1
76 Ray 1,099 0.3 68.4
77 MiaBchBravesFan 1,077 0.3 68.7
78 CaptMudd 1,073 0.3 69.0
79 LAG 1,060 0.3 69.3
80 Couch Tater 1,030 0.3 69.6
81 SNEAKY PETE 1,027 0.3 69.9
82 monty 1,016 0.3 70.2
83 Kat 1,005 0.3 70.4
84 usnavyvolfaninva 979 0.3 70.7
85 Half Empty 956 0.3 71.0
86 Hillbilly 931 0.3 71.3
87 Soph 931 0.3 71.5
88 Pace 930 0.3 71.8
89 Bobby H 922 0.3 72.0
90 MikeInFl 898 0.3 72.3
91 Animus 849 0.2 72.5
92 flange1 840 0.2 72.8
93 Fols 828 0.2 73.0
94 Frankie Wren 819 0.2 73.2
95 Trader Jack 819 0.2 73.5
96 Lawton 810 0.2 73.7
97 Ralph 805 0.2 73.9
98 TBbravesfan 789 0.2 74.1
99 Frankie 781 0.2 74.4
100 Juan 735 0.2 74.6
Top poster by blog post date:
Date Poster Frequency Percent
02JAN2012 Efrim 429 9.1
10JAN2012 Efrim 307 7.3
17JAN2012 cabravesfan 245 6.5
23JAN2012 nolie 308 6.9
03FEB2012 cabravesfan 253 6.8
11FEB2012 nolie 223 9.5
16FEB2012 cabravesfan 159 8.7
21FEB2012 nolie 101 9.3
23FEB2012 Lew 78 5.7
25FEB2012 nolie 174 16.1
27FEB2012 cabravesfan 183 10.8
29FEB2012 cabravesfan 188 10.9
03MAR2012 Venice Jim 81 4.9
05MAR2012 Venice Jim 302 21.4
07MAR2012 Venice Jim 191 16.8
08MAR2012 Venice Jim 176 20.1
09MAR2012 Venice Jim 210 31.6
10MAR2012 Rick 79 6.5
12MAR2012 abeeewright 107 7.6
14MAR2012 Venice Jim 159 10.6
16MAR2012 Tomahawkin 114 7.8
18MAR2012 Venice Jim 176 9.5
21MAR2012 Venice Jim 161 23.5
22MAR2012 Venice Jim 159 15.4
23MAR2012 Venice Jim 306 13.4
27MAR2012 Venice Jim 310 15.9
29MAR2012 Venice Jim 448 14.5
02APR2012 Venice Jim 109 11.9
03APR2012 noleee 87 6.5
05APR2012 phil 103 4.1
07APR2012 Tomahawkin 208 6.6
09APR2012 Tomahawkin 96 4.1
10APR2012 ChrisfromSacramento,Ca 85 4.2
11APR2012 phil 163 7.0
13APR2012 JasonInFL 93 5.0
14APR2012 nolie 172 6.6
16APR2012 nolie 80 6.4
17APR2012 phil 54 5.0
18APR2012 cabravesfan 74 4.5
19APR2012 cabravesfan 104 6.8
20APR2012 cabravesfan 104 8.3
21APR2012 nolie 240 9.2
23APR2012 count_schemula 131 6.5
24APR2012 cabravesfan 104 5.8
27APR2012 nolie 162 7.9
29APR2012 JasonInFL 64 6.6
30APR2012 phil 80 7.5
01MAY2012 nolie 64 3.9
02MAY2012 VaBravesFan 90 4.1
03MAY2012 nolie 38 5.0
04MAY2012 JasonInFL 115 8.1
05MAY2012 nolie 227 9.2
07MAY2012 nolie 129 7.8
08MAY2012 nolie 121 10.3
09MAY2012 TheOnlyBravesFan 112 5.4
11MAY2012 nolie 142 6.5
13MAY2012 nolie 143 9.6
14MAY2012 phil 68 5.5
15MAY2012 nolie 81 7.2
16MAY2012 TheOnlyBravesFan 105 6.8
17MAY2012 nolie 116 7.2
18MAY2012 nolie 147 11.2
19MAY2012 nolie 123 7.0
21MAY2012 nolie 74 4.9
22MAY2012 J-Man 83 6.9
23MAY2012 phil 74 6.2
24MAY2012 TheOnlyBravesFan 116 8.0
25MAY2012 TheOnlyBravesFan 100 5.9
26MAY2012 nolie 119 8.9
27MAY2012 TheOnlyBravesFan 96 6.0
28MAY2012 nolie 62 4.2
29MAY2012 phil 95 6.2
30MAY2012 nolie 201 8.3
01JUN2012 nolie 159 9.0
03JUN2012 Efrim 156 5.8
05JUN2012 Efrim 75 5.9
06JUN2012 nolie 127 9.1
07JUN2012 nolie 120 6.4
08JUN2012 JNick 119 6.4
09JUN2012 nolie 94 8.7
10JUN2012 Brava 45 3.5
11JUN2012 nolie 165 8.5
12JUN2012 TheOnlyBravesFan 91 3.5
13JUN2012 TheOnlyBravesFan 174 6.9
15JUN2012 TheOnlyBravesFan 94 6.0
16JUN2012 nolie 167 6.0
18JUN2012 Efrim 84 4.5
19JUN2012 Efrim 91 4.3
20JUN2012 nolie 217 8.0
22JUN2012 TheOnlyBravesFan 81 5.9
23JUN2012 nolie 115 8.2
24JUN2012 nolie 171 6.9
26JUN2012 TheOnlyBravesFan 125 8.8
27JUN2012 TheOnlyBravesFan 111 7.8
28JUN2012 phil 92 6.0
29JUN2012 nolie 186 5.9
01JUL2012 nolie 138 7.9
02JUL2012 Efrim 81 4.0
03JUL2012 TheOnlyBravesFan 156 9.0
04JUL2012 TheOnlyBravesFan 137 7.0
05JUL2012 nolie 127 8.6
06JUL2012 nolie 134 9.3
07JUL2012 nolie 153 3.9
09JUL2012 nolie 225 7.3
13JUL2012 nolie 113 5.2
14JUL2012 NickB 71 4.8
15JUL2012 nolie 203 7.5
17JUL2012 Efrim 104 5.4
18JUL2012 DS1 140 6.0
19JUL2012 jeffrey d 60 4.4
20JUL2012 Mark 216 4.8
22JUL2012 Efrim 209 5.3
24JUL2012 Efrim 278 5.6
27JUL2012 nolie 125 8.0
28JUL2012 nolie 75 6.2
29JUL2012 TheOnlyBravesFan 73 4.6
30JUL2012 TheOnlyBravesFan 279 10.4
31JUL2012 TheOnlyBravesFan 106 6.9
01AUG2012 TheOnlyBravesFan 56 4.5
02AUG2012 Efrim 78 7.2
03AUG2012 nolie 79 9.4
04AUG2012 nolie 72 7.6
05AUG2012 nolie 29 4.3
06AUG2012 Efrim 64 4.8
07AUG2012 Efrim 94 8.3
08AUG2012 TheOnlyBravesFan 228 10.4
10AUG2012 TheOnlyBravesFan 102 11.0
11AUG2012 Mark 97 8.4
12AUG2012 Venice Jim 53 6.0
13AUG2012 TheOnlyBravesFan 93 7.8
14AUG2012 phil 70 6.2
15AUG2012 Efrim 76 5.8
16AUG2012 nolie 106 8.0
17AUG2012 nolie 75 5.2
18AUG2012 Trey 67 7.1
19AUG2012 nolie 123 8.3
20AUG2012 TheOnlyBravesFan 124 5.2
21AUG2012 TheOnlyBravesFan 110 6.1
22AUG2012 Brava 92 6.0
23AUG2012 TheOnlyBravesFan 125 6.2
24AUG2012 Brava 130 4.5
26AUG2012 The A Bomb 75 5.1
27AUG2012 TheOnlyBravesFan 105 7.8
28AUG2012 TheOnlyBravesFan 84 6.9
29AUG2012 TheOnlyBravesFan 158 8.2
31AUG2012 nolie 157 9.5
01SEP2012 nolie 62 6.2
02SEP2012 TheOnlyBravesFan 107 7.3
03SEP2012 nolie 83 6.0
04SEP2012 TheOnlyBravesFan 82 5.6
05SEP2012 nolie 202 7.4
07SEP2012 TheOnlyBravesFan 139 6.5
09SEP2012 cabravesfan 74 8.8
10SEP2012 TheOnlyBravesFan 77 7.8
11SEP2012 TheOnlyBravesFan 71 6.7
12SEP2012 TheOnlyBravesFan 123 6.9
14SEP2012 nolie 63 4.8
15SEP2012 TheOnlyBravesFan 86 8.2
16SEP2012 Bat Masterson 53 4.6
17SEP2012 usnavyvolfaninva 57 5.2
18SEP2012 TheOnlyBravesFan 79 6.5
19SEP2012 nolie 144 7.4
21SEP2012 usnavyvolfaninva 42 4.2
22SEP2012 TheOnlyBravesFan 122 6.2
25SEP2012 TheOnlyBravesFan 101 8.1
26SEP2012 TheOnlyBravesFan 75 7.3
27SEP2012 Bay Area Steve 54 7.0
28SEP2012 TheOnlyBravesFan 46 5.0
29SEP2012 TheOnlyBravesFan 129 9.4
01OCT2012 TheOnlyBravesFan 88 7.0
02OCT2012 TheOnlyBravesFan 230 7.4
05OCT2012 TheOnlyBravesFan 210 5.0
08OCT2012 Efrim 134 7.9
10OCT2012 TheOnlyBravesFan 471 7.0
22OCT2012 Efrim 474 7.3
02NOV2012 nolie 526 10.2
12NOV2012 TheOnlyBravesFan 408 9.4
19NOV2012 TheOnlyBravesFan 169 6.8
25NOV2012 TheOnlyBravesFan 446 7.2
04DEC2012 Brava 464 9.6
10DEC2012 TheOnlyBravesFan 388 7.3
18DEC2012 TheOnlyBravesFan 558 8.9
VaBravesFan
January 2nd, 2013
3:26 pm
I think its a joke to be honest. It’s just a logo of a Indian. plsu team names are not racist and so on? How is the Redskins, Braves, Chiefs, Indians racist?
For Example
A team name like the “Georgia Cotton Pickers” Or as posted about the “Atlanta Crackers” or we can go ahead and say the “Atlanta Indian Givers” “Atlanta Spear Chuckers” Those ARE racist names… The current teams are not even close to this stuff.
kenhotlanta
January 2nd, 2013
3:26 pm
It was reported today that Bobby Womack has been diagnosed with Alzheimer’s Disease. But since Disgusted has never heard of him and didn’t know he was in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, I guess it doesn’t matter to some folks.
Womack wrote and recorded “It’s All Over Now” as The Valentinos in the early 60’s…that song became the first number one hit by The Rolling Stones. He also wrote New Birth’s “I Can Understand It”, which became a world wide dance hit in the late 70’s by Kokomo. As a singer he is most notable for the hits “Lookin’ For a Love”, “That’s The Way I Feel About Cha”, “Woman’s Gotta Have It”, “Harry Hippie”, “Across 110th Street” and his 1980s hit “If You Think You’re Lonely Now”. In the last 30 years, he made some excellent solo albums that are worth a listen if you can find them.
bucky oneil
January 2nd, 2013
3:27 pm
Like the logo. Will probably buy a batting pratice cap with it on it. And I’ll wear it while playing my new squareneck lap steel resonator guitar that I got for Christmas while listening to my copy of Ray Wylie Hubbard’s Grifter’s Hymnal that I believe was somewhere around # 30 on your countdown.
Murph
January 2nd, 2013
3:27 pm
I finished 12th in ‘12. Nice!
Ward finished 13th. That means he is due for lots and lots of bad luck this year. Remember the guy who finished 13th last year? Didn’t he die of syphilis or something?
TennesseePaul
January 2nd, 2013
3:28 pm
“That’s my personal take, and that’s all it is. I have no interest in arguing that one way or the other.”
–Franklin Rabon
Got to that point and paused. Figured, that’s fair. It’s his personal take and he has not interest in arguing one way or the other, so why read the rest of what he writes on the topic? Then I came back here.
I love the logo and the name. That’s my personal take on the matter. I think it’s awesome.
UKUGA
January 2nd, 2013
3:29 pm
Does anybody think the Braves may end up changing their name at some point (less than 100 years out, I mean)?
Something that originally struck my attention about 7 years ago was the use of the term “Brav-os” on occasion on the scoreboard. Specific example, “Let’s go Brav-os” during late inning rallies.
It just kind of made me wonder if there was some kind of subtle preparation for a name change down the road. Probably not. And I suspect that a name change would be to something besides “Bravos”. More likely to be Pelicans, or Mosquitos, Nutria, or Rougarou.
ncscoots
January 2nd, 2013
3:29 pm
8 ncscoots 6,573 1.8 22.2
Oh, man, retirement has sucked me into a blog-posting vortex from which I despair ever escaping.
This is totally insane. There is zero possibility that I had something worthwhile to say 6500 times in a year. Zero.
RC
January 2nd, 2013
3:31 pm
I finished 12th in ‘12. Nice!
Ward finished 13th. That means he is due for lots and lots of bad luck this year. Remember the guy who finished 13th last year? Didn’t he die of syphilis or something?
Was it Kenshin Kawakami?
Or Garrett Anderson?
BravesFanInNashville
January 2nd, 2013
3:32 pm
One thing that I find to be an imbalance in the one game WC playoff is that one team could win 99 games and fight down to the last game of the season trying to win their division to avoid the 1 game playoff scenario and another team could win 89 games and finish 10 games out of 1st place in their division and have rested the final weekend because they had the WC wrapped up. So the 89 win team could start a rested Ace whereas the 99 win WC team might have to pitch a #3 or #4 starter because they had to pitch their Aces the final weekend trying to win the division.
I know this can also happen to division winners when they start series but they have 5 games to try to sort it out so they’ll at least get to pitch their #1 and #2 pitcher once each and then they might only need one more win to with the series. In a 1 Game WC it’s really not fair to that 99 win team to have to put their whole season in the hands of a #3 or #4 starter when the 89 win team gets to start their ace and also has a rested #2 to come in if needed.
There has to be a better way. They have changed the playoff format already so why don’t they just start from a clean slate and design a playoff system that is the best option instead of adding on as they go without a good plan like they’re doing now? The All – Star game is supposed to be an exhibition for the fans and a reward to the games best players let’s stop giving home field advantage to the winning League. Why not just alternate years NL and AL? It’s only fair as the DH rule in home games changes strategy so much.
I say MLB should take a cue from the NCAA and get the playoff system figured out like college football did starting in 2014.
Simpson's Homer
January 2nd, 2013
3:32 pm
1. Anyone who says that there are NO fighting Irish has spent NO time in Ireland, or in certain northern neighborhoods in the US. What about James Cagney, anyway!?!?
2. Anyone who is offended by the old Braves logo is far too sensitive to be allowed on the internet. With all of the problems in this world, what sort of fool would list ANY team logo as worthy of a moment’s thought?! Political correctness is a drain on our society – we have REAL problems to solve!
3. If you watch the video clips of Gattis hitting those homers in Venezuela, he seems to have a sweet, powerful swing. It’s hard to imagine him NOT being a future major leaguer, regardless of his age. Plus, we need someone on the team with a cool nickname, and now he has one.
4. Dave, don’t know if you’re familiar with Bill Mallonee’s Americana music via Athens’ Vigilantes of Love, but he has a new solo album called “Amber Waves” that has gotten good reviews in the past month.
5. Happy New Year to everybody — maybe 2013 will be the year that one of our local teams finally wins a championship!!!
UKUGA
January 2nd, 2013
3:32 pm
When my second child is born this spring I plan to have that logo tattooed across his/her chest.
So there!
DAP
January 2nd, 2013
3:33 pm
to me, it seems like the terms “braves”, “indians” and “fighting irish” are pretty generic, not specific. thats why i dont understand any offense. you have to be trying to be offended to get emotionally injured by such a generic thing. the “redskins” i can kind of understand more, because i believe it was a racial slur at one time.
Enquiring Minds Want To Know
January 2nd, 2013
3:33 pm
Anybody who is worried about a sports team logo has got too much time on their hands.
Well, I guess that would be us, wouldn’t it.
kenhotlanta
January 2nd, 2013
3:34 pm
Murph @ 3:10: “Let’s go back to the Atlanta Crackers and change the face from the screaming indian to the weird kid from Deliverance. We could even change the tomahawk to a banjo.”
I resemble that remark!
UKUGA
January 2nd, 2013
3:34 pm
Very pleased to not be in the top 100 for 2012.
Happy New Year again everybody.
Go Braves!
VaBravesFan
January 2nd, 2013
3:34 pm
Wow, can’t believe I finished 9th overall. Didn’t realize how much time I’ve spent on here lol. Also only 1 time did I place 1st for a single blog. I blame the economy, I was laid off for 4 months in 2012 lol
UKUGA
January 2nd, 2013
3:37 pm
That is not Gattis or Mejia. That is Justin Upton.
ncscoots
January 2nd, 2013
3:38 pm
Plus, we need someone on the team with a cool nickname, and now he has one.
Good point. Published nicknames (non-locker-room versions) for Braves’ players leave a little to be desired.
Does Stanton have a nickname? I mean, other than “Mike”?
chipl1960
January 2nd, 2013
3:38 pm
40 days til pitchers and catchers report. Yes!! Thanks David for the blog. Maybe the counters will shut up now. Some on here believe DOB does nothing between Oct. and Feb. and then coasts through the season working 3 or 4 days out of 7 just watching baseball games, listening to music, and eating BBQ. The only part of Davids job I envy is the access to the players and cultivating those relationships over the years. The rest of it, the travel, airports, hotel rooms, deadlines, ignorant and sometimes mean spirited posters, no thanks. I know your job is demanding and you are probably underpaid. But, thanks again for all you provide. Those of us with a brain appreciate it.
DAP
January 2nd, 2013
3:39 pm
10paul The Mets are sporting a baseball headed man on their caps, and I would think any white guy with a large head would be deeply offended the Mets are exploiting his image for the sake of money.
i cant help but think of the brewers mascot…haphazardly sliding around during games. i mean..beer brewing is serious work, and they are being made fun of. if im a brewer in pissed.
maximum
January 2nd, 2013
3:39 pm
Go Fightin’ Whities!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fighting_Whites
David O'Brien
January 2nd, 2013
3:39 pm
Like the logo. Will probably buy a batting pratice cap with it on it. And I’ll wear it while playing my new squareneck lap steel resonator guitar that I got for Christmas while listening to my copy of Ray Wylie Hubbard’s Grifter’s Hymnal that I believe was somewhere around # 30 on your countdown. — bucky oneil
Sounds good to me. I love that album.
ncscoots
January 2nd, 2013
3:40 pm
That is not Gattis or Mejia. That is Justin Upton.
I don’t think even the blindest graphics guy employed by the AJC could mistake Justin Upton for Evan Gattis, could they?
VaBravesFan
January 2nd, 2013
3:40 pm
I can understand the term “Redskins” a little. It’s basically the same thing as calling a black person the N word or calling someone who’s white a Cracker. But were talking about a sports team, and they didn’t create the team with intended racism toward Native Americans.
Bud
January 2nd, 2013
3:40 pm
For the record, I am of Irish ancestry, and I HATE the Note Dame nickname and logo. I would love to see it ditched. Therefore I say, get rid of the Native American batting practice logo.
David O'Brien
January 2nd, 2013
3:41 pm
That’s sad to hear about Bobby Womack, kenhotlanta. And it happens when he’s riding a wave of renewed interest and picked up some new fans after the release in 2012 of his best in a long time, The Bravest Man in the Universe.
Murph
January 2nd, 2013
3:42 pm
Does Stanton have a nickname?
He does, but it’s highly offensive. Can’t be repeated here.
Disbott3000
January 2nd, 2013
3:44 pm
I don’t have a problem with the logo, but it is already starting to create a negative distraction around the team and we aren’t even in spring training yet. Part of a teams balance is about avoiding unnecessary, negative distractions, and that’s what this is rapidly turning out to be. Also, can you imagine these players having to answer a bunch of questions about race and stereotypes, over and over again? Someone’s eventually going to step in it and say something offensive to someone, which will just create more negative energy around the team.
I guess my point is, don’t upset the apple cart. We don’t use that logo now and we’re doing pretty well without it. Keep it in the past, where it wasn’t causing a ruckus.
Homer the Brave
January 2nd, 2013
3:44 pm
Would the new batting practice logo be acceptable if it showed an Indian scalping a white man? Would that make the liberals and the tree-huggers happy?
What are you looking at?
January 2nd, 2013
3:46 pm
The Notre Dame logo isn’t an Irishman. It’s a leprechaun. A mythical creature. Doesn’t depict or purport to depict a human being in any way, shape, or form.
VaBravesFan
January 2nd, 2013
3:46 pm
We could probably nit pick every single sports team and find something wrong. Basically boils down to how sensitive you are.
Cliff Fiscal
January 2nd, 2013
3:46 pm
I realize that it would cost a truckload of talent to get Stanton and that it will not happen. But, an outfield of Stanton/B.J. Upton/Heyward would be incredibly dynamic and a must-see proposition. I certainly would dish out more dough to come to the ballpark.
Slowhiteguy
January 2nd, 2013
3:46 pm
Homer….lmao….
DAP
January 2nd, 2013
3:47 pm
has clearly had dental work done, and maintains good oral health. obviously he is not a savage.
ill add to this that i suspect those who are opposed to the logo to be anti-dentites.
Cliff Fiscal
January 2nd, 2013
3:47 pm
I agree with DOB’s take on the logo issue.
fan
January 2nd, 2013
3:47 pm
Keep the Brave logo.
Mixxo
January 2nd, 2013
3:47 pm
The laughin’ injun with a buzz on…..I like it.
Very apropos if we become the laughingstock of the NL East.
I suggest the peeps who don’t like it…..deal with it.
Being of Norwegian heritage, am I offended by the Vikings logo? Absolutely not. Quite proud of it actually.
TheOnlyBravesFan
January 2nd, 2013
3:49 pm
Does Stanton have a nickname?
He does, but it’s highly offensive. Can’t be repeated here.
Haha! I’m trying and trying to come up with a way to post a nickname for him (which is offensive) but I can’t… I’ll just say it starts with the letter M.
coachx
January 2nd, 2013
3:50 pm
Scandinavians are not offended with a savage looking Viking running around the Metrodome in Minnesota.
The Irish are not offended of Notre Dame’s Irish midget mascot who likes to fight.
Renecks are not offended by the Tennessee or West Virginia parading around a white guy in racoon hat with a musket.
Cowboys are not offended by Dallas and Oklahoma state using cowboys with guns as their mascots.
The Seminole tribe has no problem with FSU using their tribal name with a drawing of an Indians in war paint.
So what the
problem with the Atlanta Braves using a smiling young Brave as a logo ?
TennesseePaul
January 2nd, 2013
3:50 pm
DOB, the recent additions/updates, would it be safe to say that, wherever they might rank in your top 50, they would just bump off the last 7, or would some higher rated ones be dropped out of the list?
I’m trying to build my purchase order, and this does impact it. There are ramifications for such late entries.
jerry
January 2nd, 2013
3:50 pm
“Cafardo noted how the Giants demonstrated again in 2012 that it’s usually not the most talented roster that wins the World Series, but the roster that works best together.”
27 titles won by the Yankees, not because they “worked” together but because they were more talented.
Thadsdad
January 2nd, 2013
3:50 pm
Until the Redskin, a blatant racist term, is eliminated from the list of sports nicknames I can’t badmouth any sports logos, no matter how they’re interpreted. Look at the long fight North Dakota State University had over using the “Fighting Sioux” as the school’s mascot. After being threatened with not hosting an NCAA ice hockey tournament, the school finally relented. But what the heck is wrong with the fighting Sioux? It seems Native Americans have been screwed over by American society in a lot more harmful ways than using the names of tribes for athletic teams.
jmart1951
January 2nd, 2013
3:50 pm
I believe that unless the major leaguer is a first year major leaguer the Marlins would not want him. Their goal is to stockpile high talent at first through 3rd year cost. This means that a minor league ready player or a player that has performed well in the majors but did not give up their first year of eligibility doing it would be most attractive to them.
If it were me I would offer Minor or Medlin (their choice), Delgado, Freeman or Mejia (their choice), Amhed, Gilmartin and Cunningham
The Marlins could certainly take Freeman and then trade him to another club for a couple of very good prospects. Same with Medlin
I believe that might do it.
Then extend Heyward and Prado.
This should result in the Braves having a very good chance of winning for the next four to five years.
Stanton is a huge difference maker. He is a five tool player and would lead the team in RBI. An outfield of Stanton, Upton and Heyward would be very good defensively and outstanding offensively.
Prado playing third base full time with Simmons at his side really covers the left side of the infield. Mejia, if they chose Freeman, has good splits for both right handed and left handed pitchers. He only made 7 errors in 135 games last year. He could end up being a very good replacement for Freeman.
Pitching staff of Medlin, Maholm, Hudson and Tehren would mean that the Braves need to sign another major league starter for 2013.
2014, they could extend Hudson, add Beachy back in and either go with Graham or a free agent starter. Plus you never know who may develope rapidly in 2013 that would be a surprise starter in 2014.
I know that this trade would be a risk and weaken the Braves pitching depth but Stanton in his prime years at very reasonable cost would be worth having to rework the starting pitching staff.
Chief Knock-A-Homa
January 2nd, 2013
3:51 pm
Bring ME back!
BTW – @braveone 3:23 p.m. – seriously?!
chipl1960
January 2nd, 2013
3:52 pm
have the Mets and Marlins as laughingstocks already. no worries about that.
Cliff Fiscal
January 2nd, 2013
3:52 pm
I am so out of the loop now when it come to music. That wasn’t the case back in the 80’s when I was into the Athens music scene and also enjoyed a particular band called Winter Hours (combined the best of REM’s jangly rock/ alt-country/Jim Morrison-sounding singer). At least I listen to Alejandro Escoveda sometimes.
ncscoots
January 2nd, 2013
3:52 pm
I guess my point is, don’t upset the apple cart.
Oh, man, screw that. That’s not a good enough reason to do one or the other. The path of least resistance leads only to an ethical abyss.
One-Eyed Mac
January 2nd, 2013
3:54 pm
How come anytime someone has a disparity in home/road splits, it’s just assumed he can’t hit outside the park that is currently his home ballpark. Maybe the guy just likes being at home with his family and sleeping in his own bed.
Juan
January 2nd, 2013
3:55 pm
History Fact:
Notice the Braves Logo with the Mohawk cut is from a “Mohawk” Indian tribe.
Their territory ranged to present-day southern Quebec and eastern Ontario.
For that their not Native American
jmart1951
January 2nd, 2013
3:56 pm
Sorry…. Pitching staff of Medlin or Minor (one not chosen), Maholm, Hudson and Tehren
single white dove
January 2nd, 2013
3:56 pm
VaBravesFan
January 2nd, 2013
2:59 pm
Wren doesn’t have enough prospect talent to even get the Marlins talking, even if he was willing to unload the farm it wouldn’t be enough. Now the DBacks and Justin Upton are a different story, we have enough to get him I think, problem is Wren doesn’t wanna hurt our already bad farm unless he can totally screw someone like he did with the Astro’s.
Mike Stanton would be sweet, if we got him.
Voice of Reason
January 2nd, 2013
3:56 pm
In reading the Denver Post, I see that the Rockies are in need of starting pitching. They supposedly offered Fowler for Minor, but the Braves turned that down. (that was a good decision by Mr. Wren IMHO) But they still have Mike Cuddyer on their roster and are looking at him as a part-time OF & 1B – I think his bat, savvy, leadership, and skills would fit very well in LF for the Braves and if offering either Delgado or Vizcaino, as well as a AAA position player, that might do the trick. It looks like the Rockies were hoping that they would get a FA to fill pitching needs but now are more open to trade for prospects to fill out their staff. What have you heard, DOB?
coachx
January 2nd, 2013
3:56 pm
This just in.
The Dog Whispers says Bulldogs are pissed off about being exploited as mean mascots !
The Bird Whisper says Hawks, Falcons, Eagles, Cardinals, and Owls feel the same way.
The Fish Whisperer also says Dolphins, Sharks, and Rays are OK with being mascots but feel they should be compensated. They request a lifetime supply of food of their own chosing.
raleighbravefan
January 2nd, 2013
3:56 pm
nolie – Way to go, Buddy. You even beat out TOBF for the year (a Herculian Task), even in spite of periods of illness, and even a brief, undeserved banning period. Well done, my (retired) friend.
JK
January 2nd, 2013
3:57 pm
Great logo. You can’t please everyone. Nothing pleases everyone. I say make shirts with the logo as well.
DAP
January 2nd, 2013
3:58 pm
is “el oso blanco” racist and offensive, or is it ok since its in spanish and about a white guy? just curious about where the tolerance threshold is for this stuff…
Murph
January 2nd, 2013
3:58 pm
What about people who hail from pirate ancestry? Have you seen that thing that parades around their stadium? WTF is that all about? Not the parrot, but the other one. I noticed that they gave him yellow skin… because it has scurvy? So now you’re mocking people with scurvy??
Or the Padres friar mascot… I once saw him and the Philly Phanatic do something between innings that would have started a war in the olden days. Yet people don’t seem to have a problem with a man of the cloth parading around the field, dry-humping a giant green alien?