10paul By demand, you mean consistently and undeniably out performing all other conferences thus routinely earning all four play-off spots, right?
if they did it reasonably, the SEC probably would dominate that top 4 most years. but im guessing they will take champions of 4 major conferences, right? SEC, ACC, Big 12, PAC 10? some other ones…?
I don’t like Liberty Media… but I dislike Loria and some others more. Can’t really say I’m thankful for Liberty as much as I’m thankful we don’t have someone way, way worse.
Lew – I have limited interest in jazz, but I like some. I guess my favorite is Vince Guaraldi Trio. I think Chicago, whom I like a lot, has some jazz elements, along with, of course, plenty of big band/rock/pop ingredients.
6. Atlanta Braves
It’s still not entirely clear how the Braves will replace Chipper Jones at third base; Martin Prado could be the full-time third baseman, or Atlanta could work the powerful Juan Francisco into the mix against some right-handed pitchers and shift Prado to left field on some days. No matter how the Braves decide to go, however, their infield should be one of the best, now that Andrelton Simmons is established as one of the sport’s best young shortstops and Freddie Freeman is emerging as a run-producer. Freeman was hampered for weeks by eye trouble — which has since been fixed — but still closed the year with 58 extra-base hits after having a strong second half.
The X factor: The Braves need more peaks than valleys from Dan Uggla, whose slugging percentage has dropped from .503 in 2010 to .453 in 2011 to .384 last year.
raleighbraves – I listened to some Brian Auger and Julie Drsicoll, McCoy Tyner and some other stuff way back when. Just not really my thing – even when Keith Emerson re-arranged it.
Outfield 8th Best, Rotation 8th Best, and now Infield 6th Best. I’m sure he’ll do bullpens and we’d likely finish 1st or 2nd. Overall that would make us the 5th or 6th best team in baseball from Buster’s perspective. If Wren was able to land a legit LFer, it would really put us over the top in my opinion. Still a great ballclub considering we have 10+ million in unspent payroll, or possibly have maintained greatness after a huge slashing of payroll.
BravePack – Hey, man…PLEASE feel free to voice your opinion. Didn’t mean my comments as a personal attack, or anything. I was just voicing MY opinion. Open and reasonable discussion is what the ole blog is (or should be) about.
It also should be noted that your criticism of LM is hardly tiresome, ond only occasional. I guess I was venting MY frustration with the true haters, who have little foundation based on reality. It’s all good, my friend.
So Buster ranks the Braves’ pitching 8th in MLB (and I don’t think he even factored in the pen, which has to be in the top two or three) and sixth in infield and people are still worried that this is not one of the best teams in the game? Go figure.
Maybe the blog regulars need to take a year off. In any blog regulars eventually shape the conversation in one direction. Not saying it is good or bad but it becomes predictable like any social system.
A few dissenters or newbies come in trying to shake things up but they are quickly brushed aside or contained. The only way they get a sniff at relevance is to bang the contrarian drum with extreme views and or personal attacks. The latter gets them banned and usually rightfully so.
This is a theoretical idea of course bc its a free country but when blogs become too familiar and predictable they A) become more closed off or cloistered in their discourse generating more personal attacks and dismissive comments (aka: unhealthy blog), B) the person running the blog gets replaced (or begs to be replaced ) with hopes it stimulates new membership/new social structure (aka resurrected blog) or C) people leave and start a new blog which will have a similar lifecycle (aka end of life blog).
Since this blog supports a team which drives much of the ebb and flow of the conversation it is hard to stray too far afield if the team is itself fairly predictable and or frustrating to some.
DOB has the unenviable task each season, every week etc to fined new angles, stats and talking points to insert into the blog to keep readership up and the conversations lively but also healthy (for him and us).
After a while I can imagine that makes one a little cooked and the insertion of musical threads are a nice way to cleanse the mental palate (as an example).
Bottom line sports blogs are tough. High emotion, strong opinions and the source material (the team) is not something people can change. The Braves are going to do what they are going to do no matter what we say or how we interact with one another.
6. Atlanta Braves
It’s still not entirely clear how the Braves will replace Chipper Jones at third base; Martin Prado could be the full-time third baseman, or Atlanta could work the powerful Juan Francisco into the mix against some right-handed pitchers and shift Prado to left field on some days. No matter how the Braves decide to go, however, their infield should be one of the best, now that Andrelton Simmons is established as one of the sport’s best young shortstops and Freddie Freeman is emerging as a run-producer. Freeman was hampered for weeks by eye trouble — which has since been fixed — but still closed the year with 58 extra-base hits after having a strong second half.
The X factor: The Braves need more peaks than valleys from Dan Uggla, whose slugging percentage has dropped from .503 in 2010 to .453 in 2011 to .384 last year.
It would be nice to make the “real” playoffs. Which means getting past the 1 game bullshyt wild card round, like this is the NFL or something. Nabbing a WC spot has been very downgraded in my opinion definitely if you lose that 1 game. They shouldn’t even consider it a playoff appearance if you ask me. Fredi is likely gonna be challenged in 2013, were not better than the Nationals, but I know we’ll take WC card spot. Can he manage to win that 1 ever so important game? If not the season is a failure.
PS – That is why Twitter is becoming the preferred communication model for beat reporters and the press. Less stressful. Immediate. You can jump around topically avoiding topic burn out, etc.
Blogs are devolving into the old bulletin board systems of the 80s/90s. More of place where people hold conversations with other regulars versus constant evolving and new set of people swarming around a new topic.
You know a blog has hit the wall when its viewed like the two old guys from the Muppets who sit in the balcony seat and poke fun or rant about the world around them.
The Braves are going to do what they are going to do no matter what we say or how we interact with one another.
I do wonder sometimes if Fredi reads the blog. There were a couple of times last season when a proposed lineup change or bullpen management strategy was debated on the blog only then to magically appear on Fredi’s lineup card a day later.
I can’t point to any specific examples, but I know there were a few times when I saw Fredi do something that we had just talked about.
MAY: “FLY, FLY AWAY! HOME RUNS INCREASE AFTER MARINERS MOVE IN FENCES”
Now that Seattle has moved in the outfield fences from a mean-spirited, soul-crushing 390 feet, there should be no more sleep-inducing 3-1 losses for the Mariners. Just think how much more exciting those three-hour 8-4 losses will be!
JUNE: “OUT OF GAS! AGING YANKEES FALL INTO LAST”
Just as ignoring a dwindling gas gauge will eventually catch up with you, so too will relying season after season on an aging roster. And with perhaps their oldest roster yet, plus injuries to Jeter and A-Rod, elbow surgery for CC Sabathia and a rejuvenated AL East, this season looks like it will be the year.
Or at least I hope so.
JULY: “MIAMI TRADE DEFICIT WORSENS: MARLINS DEAL STANTON AT DEADLINE”
Hey, they’ve traded away every other star on their roster. Why must Giancarlo Stanton stay in Miami with Loria and David Samson as his bosses? Let him go help a team that is trying to win instead of one fleecing the taxpayers.
Thanks raleigh. I appreciate that. It’s nice to have a place to come talk Braves with other Braves fans who are mostly knowledgable about the team. I’m getting tired of arguing as the years pass, just having good discussions.
Ninth out of thirty isn’t all that bad… likely gets us in the playoffs, just not the Div. Title… the team ahead of us is one of the best. But, to get into the tournament, you’ve gotta be one of the top 10-12, and right now, we’re there.
Well even a blind pig can find slop. Just like Fredi found common sense throughout the season lol. Or maybe he did read the blog? Just because we don’t work in MLB and so on doesn’t mean we have no clue about this stuff.
I always have fondness for guys who make me money.
Plus, anyone who has been around these parts for a while knows that I lean towards the guy who pulls his money out of his pocket and lays it on the table to make the bet, the guy who takes the chance and the risk. Kibitzers and lookers-on around the table are a different story; most of those don’t care if the risk-taker ends up sleeping under a bridge, as long as he meets their entertainment quotient, LOL.
Ozzie – I enjoyed reading your posts (12:38 and 12:43). It is tough to break into various discussion as a realtive newby. Then again, many of the blog regulars do have more baseball knowledge and a more expansive command of team rosters and statistics. I learn alot by reading the posts here.
I have watched alot of baseball over the years and try to interject interesting posts to mostly a silent reception. My first reaction is one of frustration, but then I realize I really have not added much to the discussion. I do appreciate the fairly balanced views by many of the blog regulars. I assume that if have no patience for posters who issue personal attacks and take extreme contrarian views, then the blog regulars will more likely have even less patience.
In short, I enjoy this blog. i wish I could part of the “in” crowd at times, but then I realize I am way beyond my high school years.
That is why Twitter is becoming the preferred communication model for beat reporters and the press. Less stressful. Immediate.
No need for actual writing skills. Less taxing intellectually. Easy.
[The blog is] More of place where people hold conversations with other regulars versus constant evolving and new set of people swarming around a new topic.
Do folks of this opinion ever consider that “regulars” were newbies, at some point? That one of the reasons a poster becomes a “regular” is that the forum meets the bar of being newly interesting on a constant basis, and thus invites returning to it?
You know, not in-games, maybe, but the rest of the time?
Ninth out of thirty teams is hardly anything to sneeze at. It should put us in the playoffs.
I don’t know why anyone would think this. Gotta be one of the best five teams in the league just to get the play-in game. Braves could be better than any team in the AL and that would have absolutely zero bearing on their playoff chances.
From the perspective of six weeks to PCR, this could be a very tough year for several teams who may end up being very good and still miss the playoffs. The top two (or even three) teams in each division look pretty strong, and there aren’t enough chairs at the dance for all of them.
I’m a regular here on the ole blog. Been on here for about 4 years. But I tend to not spend as much time on here during the actual games. I enjoy talking during the offseason and in between games, where people can actually keep a convo going.
Winning a Wild Card spot should no longer be considered a “Playoff Berth or Appearance” Unless you actually win the 1 single game to actually get to the playoff”S”
I consider reaching the one-game wild card a playoff appearance. But, such an “appearance” does not excite me much especially given the futility of the Braves (and Falcons) in their playoff appearances over the past several years.
The Braves and Falcons are my favorite two sports teams. I vaguely remember what it was like to celebrate a playoff victory.
Winning a Wild Card spot should no longer be considered a “Playoff Berth or Appearance” Unless you actually win the 1 single game to actually get to the playoff”S”
Yeah, the game blogs are pretty grim. The “Fire Fredi” trolls are out in force after every loss and sometimes after many of the victories. Reason goes out of the window, and there is a feeling that the Braves are the worst oganization to ever grace professional sports.
getting to the play-in game means you only play 1 more game than the Astros… basically like a tie-breaker. I can see why some wouldn’t consider it the playoffs
“try to interject interesting posts to mostly a silent reception.”
Please continue with your attempts. I think many of our less frequent participants get turned off when their posts aren’t responded to. What I feel they’re missing is the fact that virtually all posts here are not responded to. Doesn’t mean they aren’t read, or ain’t appreciated.
I think the goal with a comment should be to make it interesting, though-provoking, funny, and/or original, not to get the most responses. If you just want responses, insult SEC football or Fredi Gonzalez. When all else fails, counter Shaun.
To me, its not about all the Fire Fredi crap and all the nonsense during games that makes me stay away often during games. Were all watching the game, we have a few regulars like Venice Jim giving us the play by play. But most of the comments are based on BOOing or Celebrating after every AB. There is really no discussion going on, and if there is it’s extremely tough to keep it going. Doesn’t take long to get a page of comments during a game. Usually after a really tough loss, there will be a handful of pages after midnight during the very early AM hours of just people going bonkers with calling Fredi and other complete idiots and so on. lol
Cruel and unusual punishment is not fair even when inflicted on oneself and definitely not acceptable here as it gets inflicted on all innocent bystander-esque blog readers as an extension.
The more I think about it, the more I like asdrubal Cabrera for the braves. Great defense, switch hitter, pretty good hitter, and can play 3rd. Not much pop, but should have a good avg while providing stellar defense. Pair that with my Cory hart idea, move prado to second, and you’ve got easily the best defensive infield in the game
I have engaged in that activity and emerged with a big headache. Seriously, I do not see Shaun posting much lately. I miss his posts and stats-oriented viewpoints (was that an understatement?). He has opinions that are very easy to debate, but yet he often provides great information.
VaBravesFan- To clarify, I refer mainly to the post-game blogs and not so much discussions during the game. I agree with your opinion about the nature of post-game blogging after a tough loss.
I’ve been here since early 2006. A few observations…
There have always been a plethora of opposing views, and the “regulare” often disagree, but rarely shut them down (even when they are “unpleasant”)
“newbies” are only that if they leave. SeeTOBF for an (exagerated) example of how you can become a part of the discussion quickly.
Many of my comments drawn no retort, or reaction of any kind. Doesn’t mean I’m not part of the discusion, and a contributing member…or…maybe…Hey, wait a minute…
I think Shaun makes good points and has solid opinions, but thats never good enough for him. He never lets anything go and will ramble on and on about the same topic for days and weeks. He’s relentless. There’s never no agreeing to disagree with him. I love a good debate but he digs very deep into every single little detail about it. I mean you could agree with him and he’d still be trying to convince you he’s right…. lol
With Shaun, I made the mistake of getting into a discussion on the nature of “clutch” hitting. This was under my old name Tumbledown. Of course, I was a newby last year to this blog and did not realize that the “clutch” debate had gone on for years without any impact on Shaun’s opinion. I had run smack into a brick wall on the topic. Nevertheless, I do not discount his opinion but wish he was better at not doing the same with respect to people who disagree with him.
“Was there a big debate on here regarding the new BP hats? I’m too lazy to go back and look.”
Yes, most white people didn’t understand why it might be offensive [big surprise] to some, and enlightened people thought it unneccessary to use these stupid stereotype ’screaming/laughing’ Indian faces on any apparel–in other words, if it doesn’t feel right, don’t do it. Predictably, some white people claimed to be as much as 1/16 American Indian,so this made them an expert on why nobody should be offended. Others cloaked the issue in ‘this is a tribute to American Indians and something to be proud of’ schtick. Needless to say, those couple of days were very amusing. My guess is that a couple Braves front office interns looked at a couple samples from a vendor and choe the one that looked cool…..the screaming Indian face.
“Was there a big debate on here regarding the new BP hats? I’m too lazy to go back and look.”
Yes, most white people didn’t understand why it might be offensive [big surprise] to some, and enlightened people thought it unneccessary to use these stupid stereotype ’screaming/laughing’ Indian faces on any apparel–in other words, if it doesn’t feel right, don’t do it. Predictably, some white people claimed to be as much as 1/16 American Indian,so this made them an expert on why nobody should be offended. Others cloaked the issue in ‘this is a tribute to American Indians and something to be proud of’ schtick. Needless to say, those couple of days of reading white people responses were very amusing. My guess is that a couple Braves front office interns looked at a couple samples from a vendor and choe the one that looked cool…..the screaming Indian face.
Murph: I do wonder sometimes if Fredi reads the blog. There were a couple of times last season when a proposed lineup change or bullpen management strategy was debated on the blog only then to magically appear on Fredi’s lineup card a day later.
Or perhaps it was pretty obvious and his timetable to try something different wasn’t on the smae timetable as us virtual GMs thought it should be. My guess is that he didn’t get the idea from these blogs. Agreed?
nscoots, I’ll look up the meaning of pejorative when I have time and will let you know,based on my findings, whether or not an apology is in order. Thank You
I have a double-standard: I use white and black for race all the time, but deem all other colors offensive. Seems wrong of me. Even scoots, who I suspect is about as anti-political-correctness as a cat can be, finds it wrong. Yet…
This is the type of offer it would take to land Stanton. A Franchise Altering Package.
Rangers offer
OF Craig Gentry
OF Leonys Martin
SS Jurickson Profar
3B Mike Olt
LHP Martin Perez
C Jorge Alfaro
Might not take all of them, but you can bet it would take a 5 player package or more. Definitely would take 3 blue chip prospects in my opinion along with others.
who I suspect is about as anti-political-correctness as a cat can be
That’s true, insofar as I do not deal well with intolerance of any kind. And make no mistake, those who would impress upon others their own sensitivities, their own sterotypes, their own beliefs as to “correct”, are as intolerant as those others who cause them to do so. Neither camp finds welcome in my home.
January 2nd, 2013
2:24 pm
I just watched Dances With Wolves a couple of days ago, so I feel qualified to speak on the subject of Native American feelings….
Wren doesn’t have enough prospect talent to even get the Marlins talking, even if he was willing to unload the farm it wouldn’t be enough. Now the DBacks and Justin Upton are a different story, we have enough to get him I think, problem is Wren doesn’t wanna hurt our already bad farm unless he can totally screw someone like he did with the Astro’s.
mr pitts most white people didn’t understand why it might be offensive [big surprise] to some, and enlightened people thought it unneccessary to use these stupid stereotype ’screaming/laughing’ Indian faces on any apparel–in other words, if it doesn’t feel right, don’t do it.
screaming indian face feels right to me. i want to see it. it shouldnt be offensive, its not an attempt to represent anyone or anything specific. a “brave” is a pretty generic thing, as is an “indian”. i have no problem with any emblem used, and i really think knockahoma should be back.
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That is why Twitter is becoming the preferred communication model for beat reporters and the press. Less stressful. Immediate. You can jump around topically avoiding topic burn out, etc….Ozzie
Re: the BP caps. I agree with much of what DOB and the rest of you wrote. But I also think the Braves should think hard about making a change. This problem is not going away and it’s always a killjoy. I just want to pull for the baseball team I loved since I was a kid. I don’t want to offend anyone. I think about the dilemma of the Braves marketing team, the challenge of trying to both build and avoid their image.
Many people find “Indian” mascots offensive. On the other hand, ballClubs want to preserve their history. The Indians and the Redskins are SOL here, unable to bridge this divide. However, IMO, the Braves are not…and could do something Creative…According to Dictionary.com, the definition of the noun brave is…
4.
a brave person.
5.
a warrior, especially among North American Indian tribes.
I think the Braves should do away with all “Indian” imagery…and focus on #4. There are obvious historical examples of great bravery out of ATLANTA. But even today…firefighters, policemen, teachers, soldiers. These people deserve to be honored.
The best looking uniform in baseball is the new braves uni, IMO, and requires no tomahawk. Do away with the chop – it IS offensive, IMO. Doesn’t it come from Bugs Bunny or something like that.
Anyway, I’ll shut up now. I just think, more so than any other sports team with the same undying issue, the Braves have an opportunity to put it all to rest in a bold and creative way that might even invigorate the fan base.
Johnny Canada – “Because nobody knows rap music like a middle aged, white, baseball beat writer.”
You can thank us that rap music even exists, since we’ve been listening from the beginning. Rap could have been a fad like disco until the people who are now middle aged white guys made it viable. Who do you think bought this stuff when it was not chart music?
I took a lot of heat in the early 80s for mixing rap into my mix tapes with Bob Dylan, Bad Brains, Butthole Surfers, Replacements, R.E.M., Dead Kennedys, Prince, Mission of Burma, Hüsker Dü, Brain Eno, Midnight Oil, Smiths, Hoodoo Gurus, Tom Waits, Big Black and Iron Maiden.
How about a little respect for the people who will forget more “rap music” that you will ever likely know. Now go bump your Machine Gun Kelly and apply your pimple cream with a clean cotton swab.
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Let’s see, Rangers,Nats,Phillies,Orioles,Giants,Yankees,Angels,Dodgers don’t platoon outfielders. They are winners. Just keep letting Bobby Cox run things with platooning and 3rd place is guaranteed this year. — DOB’s BJ… (Dec. 19)
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DAP
January 2nd, 2013
12:18 pm
10paul By demand, you mean consistently and undeniably out performing all other conferences thus routinely earning all four play-off spots, right?
if they did it reasonably, the SEC probably would dominate that top 4 most years. but im guessing they will take champions of 4 major conferences, right? SEC, ACC, Big 12, PAC 10? some other ones…?
David O'Brien
January 2nd, 2013
12:18 pm
New blog coming up early this afternoon. My take on the Indian-head logo and a few baseball matters.
TheOnlyBravesFan
January 2nd, 2013
12:20 pm
http://www.talkingchop.com/2013/1/2/3816000/braves-extension-analysis-jason-heyward
They say 6/81…. I was thinking closer to 70, but that’s okay
Murph
January 2nd, 2013
12:20 pm
I don’t like Liberty Media… but I dislike Loria and some others more. Can’t really say I’m thankful for Liberty as much as I’m thankful we don’t have someone way, way worse.
raleighbravefan
January 2nd, 2013
12:22 pm
Lew – I have limited interest in jazz, but I like some. I guess my favorite is Vince Guaraldi Trio. I think Chicago, whom I like a lot, has some jazz elements, along with, of course, plenty of big band/rock/pop ingredients.
Murph
January 2nd, 2013
12:24 pm
Was there a big debate on here regarding the new BP hats? I’m too lazy to go back and look.
VaBravesFan
January 2nd, 2013
12:24 pm
Buster Olney’s Infield Rankings… 1. Rangers 2. Tigers 3. Reds 4. Rays 5. Yanks…..
6. Atlanta Braves
It’s still not entirely clear how the Braves will replace Chipper Jones at third base; Martin Prado could be the full-time third baseman, or Atlanta could work the powerful Juan Francisco into the mix against some right-handed pitchers and shift Prado to left field on some days. No matter how the Braves decide to go, however, their infield should be one of the best, now that Andrelton Simmons is established as one of the sport’s best young shortstops and Freddie Freeman is emerging as a run-producer. Freeman was hampered for weeks by eye trouble — which has since been fixed — but still closed the year with 58 extra-base hits after having a strong second half.
The X factor: The Braves need more peaks than valleys from Dan Uggla, whose slugging percentage has dropped from .503 in 2010 to .453 in 2011 to .384 last year.
Lew
January 2nd, 2013
12:25 pm
raleighbraves – I listened to some Brian Auger and Julie Drsicoll, McCoy Tyner and some other stuff way back when. Just not really my thing – even when Keith Emerson re-arranged it.
TheOnlyBravesFan
January 2nd, 2013
12:26 pm
#6 sounds about right, given the unknowns to who will be at 3B and questions on Uggla
Rick C
January 2nd, 2013
12:28 pm
Thanks VaBravesFan. Did the Braves make his top 10 outfields?
VaBravesFan
January 2nd, 2013
12:28 pm
So far Buster has ranked our
Outfield 8th Best, Rotation 8th Best, and now Infield 6th Best. I’m sure he’ll do bullpens and we’d likely finish 1st or 2nd. Overall that would make us the 5th or 6th best team in baseball from Buster’s perspective. If Wren was able to land a legit LFer, it would really put us over the top in my opinion. Still a great ballclub considering we have 10+ million in unspent payroll, or possibly have maintained greatness after a huge slashing of payroll.
raleighbravefan
January 2nd, 2013
12:30 pm
BravePack – Hey, man…PLEASE feel free to voice your opinion. Didn’t mean my comments as a personal attack, or anything. I was just voicing MY opinion. Open and reasonable discussion is what the ole blog is (or should be) about.
It also should be noted that your criticism of LM is hardly tiresome, ond only occasional. I guess I was venting MY frustration with the true haters, who have little foundation based on reality. It’s all good, my friend.
Lew
January 2nd, 2013
12:30 pm
So Buster ranks the Braves’ pitching 8th in MLB (and I don’t think he even factored in the pen, which has to be in the top two or three) and sixth in infield and people are still worried that this is not one of the best teams in the game? Go figure.
Rick C
January 2nd, 2013
12:31 pm
Olney ranked the Braves 9th on his overall rankings.
VaBravesFan
January 2nd, 2013
12:33 pm
Lew
Only factored our rotation in the rankings, sure he’ll do the bullpens tomorrow.
Lew
January 2nd, 2013
12:33 pm
Apparently VaBraves thinks much the way I do – at least every now and then.
Lew
January 2nd, 2013
12:35 pm
Ninth out of thirty teams is hardly anything to sneeze at. It should put us in the playoffs.
VaBravesFan
January 2nd, 2013
12:35 pm
I’d say we agree most of the time
Lew
January 2nd, 2013
12:36 pm
Though I’m not all that certain of the math that puts us 8th, 8th and 5th and that then equals ninth.
Lew
January 2nd, 2013
12:37 pm
VaBraves – Well, much more often than many others here in DOBLand, anyway.
Ozzie
January 2nd, 2013
12:38 pm
Maybe the blog regulars need to take a year off.
In any blog regulars eventually shape the conversation in one direction. Not saying it is good or bad but it becomes predictable like any social system.
A few dissenters or newbies come in trying to shake things up but they are quickly brushed aside or contained. The only way they get a sniff at relevance is to bang the contrarian drum with extreme views and or personal attacks. The latter gets them banned and usually rightfully so.
This is a theoretical idea of course bc its a free country but when blogs become too familiar and predictable they A) become more closed off or cloistered in their discourse generating more personal attacks and dismissive comments (aka: unhealthy blog), B) the person running the blog gets replaced (or begs to be replaced
) with hopes it stimulates new membership/new social structure (aka resurrected blog) or C) people leave and start a new blog which will have a similar lifecycle (aka end of life blog).
Since this blog supports a team which drives much of the ebb and flow of the conversation it is hard to stray too far afield if the team is itself fairly predictable and or frustrating to some.
DOB has the unenviable task each season, every week etc to fined new angles, stats and talking points to insert into the blog to keep readership up and the conversations lively but also healthy (for him and us).
After a while I can imagine that makes one a little cooked and the insertion of musical threads are a nice way to cleanse the mental palate (as an example).
Bottom line sports blogs are tough. High emotion, strong opinions and the source material (the team) is not something people can change. The Braves are going to do what they are going to do no matter what we say or how we interact with one another.
Murph
January 2nd, 2013
12:39 pm
Ninth out of thirty teams is hardly anything to sneeze at. It should put us in the playoffs.
And we all know anything can happen in October. If we can get there, beyond the play-in game, we’ve got the same chances as anyone else.
VaBravesFan
January 2nd, 2013
12:39 pm
Buster Olney’s Infield Rankings… 1. Rangers 2. Tigers 3. Reds 4. Rays 5. Yanks
6. Atlanta Braves
It’s still not entirely clear how the Braves will replace Chipper Jones at third base; Martin Prado could be the full-time third baseman, or Atlanta could work the powerful Juan Francisco into the mix against some right-handed pitchers and shift Prado to left field on some days. No matter how the Braves decide to go, however, their infield should be one of the best, now that Andrelton Simmons is established as one of the sport’s best young shortstops and Freddie Freeman is emerging as a run-producer. Freeman was hampered for weeks by eye trouble — which has since been fixed — but still closed the year with 58 extra-base hits after having a strong second half.
The X factor: The Braves need more peaks than valleys from Dan Uggla, whose slugging percentage has dropped from .503 in 2010 to .453 in 2011 to .384 last year.
VaBravesFan
January 2nd, 2013
12:39 pm
It would be nice to make the “real” playoffs. Which means getting past the 1 game bullshyt wild card round, like this is the NFL or something. Nabbing a WC spot has been very downgraded in my opinion definitely if you lose that 1 game. They shouldn’t even consider it a playoff appearance if you ask me. Fredi is likely gonna be challenged in 2013, were not better than the Nationals, but I know we’ll take WC card spot. Can he manage to win that 1 ever so important game? If not the season is a failure.
Ozzie
January 2nd, 2013
12:43 pm
PS – That is why Twitter is becoming the preferred communication model for beat reporters and the press. Less stressful. Immediate. You can jump around topically avoiding topic burn out, etc.
Blogs are devolving into the old bulletin board systems of the 80s/90s. More of place where people hold conversations with other regulars versus constant evolving and new set of people swarming around a new topic.
You know a blog has hit the wall when its viewed like the two old guys from the Muppets who sit in the balcony seat and poke fun or rant about the world around them.
Murph
January 2nd, 2013
12:43 pm
The Braves are going to do what they are going to do no matter what we say or how we interact with one another.
I do wonder sometimes if Fredi reads the blog. There were a couple of times last season when a proposed lineup change or bullpen management strategy was debated on the blog only then to magically appear on Fredi’s lineup card a day later.
I can’t point to any specific examples, but I know there were a few times when I saw Fredi do something that we had just talked about.
VaBravesFan
January 2nd, 2013
12:45 pm
ESPN’s Jim Caple Predictions… I’ll post a few.
MAY: “FLY, FLY AWAY! HOME RUNS INCREASE AFTER MARINERS MOVE IN FENCES”
Now that Seattle has moved in the outfield fences from a mean-spirited, soul-crushing 390 feet, there should be no more sleep-inducing 3-1 losses for the Mariners. Just think how much more exciting those three-hour 8-4 losses will be!
JUNE: “OUT OF GAS! AGING YANKEES FALL INTO LAST”
Just as ignoring a dwindling gas gauge will eventually catch up with you, so too will relying season after season on an aging roster. And with perhaps their oldest roster yet, plus injuries to Jeter and A-Rod, elbow surgery for CC Sabathia and a rejuvenated AL East, this season looks like it will be the year.
Or at least I hope so.
JULY: “MIAMI TRADE DEFICIT WORSENS: MARLINS DEAL STANTON AT DEADLINE”
Hey, they’ve traded away every other star on their roster. Why must Giancarlo Stanton stay in Miami with Loria and David Samson as his bosses? Let him go help a team that is trying to win instead of one fleecing the taxpayers.
BravePack(FreeFan)
January 2nd, 2013
12:48 pm
Thanks raleigh. I appreciate that. It’s nice to have a place to come talk Braves with other Braves fans who are mostly knowledgable about the team. I’m getting tired of arguing as the years pass, just having good discussions.
TheOnlyBravesFan
January 2nd, 2013
12:48 pm
Ninth out of thirty isn’t all that bad… likely gets us in the playoffs, just not the Div. Title… the team ahead of us is one of the best. But, to get into the tournament, you’ve gotta be one of the top 10-12, and right now, we’re there.
TheOnlyBravesFan
January 2nd, 2013
12:50 pm
Though I’m not all that certain of the math that puts us 8th, 8th and 5th and that then equals ninth.
Must not be crazy about Fredo!
VaBravesFan
January 2nd, 2013
12:53 pm
Murph
Well even a blind pig can find slop. Just like Fredi found common sense throughout the season lol. Or maybe he did read the blog? Just because we don’t work in MLB and so on doesn’t mean we have no clue about this stuff.
TheOnlyBravesFan
January 2nd, 2013
12:53 pm
Buster Olney @Buster_ESPN
I’d bet this guy is headed for a breakout season. http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/f/freemfr01.shtml … Fixed some eye issues midway through ‘12 and had a good 2nd half.
Breakout to .810?
Nowhere man
January 2nd, 2013
12:57 pm
How many SEC teams did ND play?
cabravesfan
January 2nd, 2013
12:59 pm
How many I-AA teams did the SEC play?
VaBravesFan
January 2nd, 2013
1:00 pm
I definitely see Freeman improving to 270/350/475 or better. I also see him getting 25 HR and 100+ RBI
He’ll be our first 100+ RBI man since 35 year old Chipper Jones in 2007…..
Nowhere man
January 2nd, 2013
1:03 pm
It will look like one more on Jan 7th
ncscoots
January 2nd, 2013
1:05 pm
’scoots Malone. Now it all makes sense.
I always have fondness for guys who make me money.
Plus, anyone who has been around these parts for a while knows that I lean towards the guy who pulls his money out of his pocket and lays it on the table to make the bet, the guy who takes the chance and the risk. Kibitzers and lookers-on around the table are a different story; most of those don’t care if the risk-taker ends up sleeping under a bridge, as long as he meets their entertainment quotient, LOL.
Cliff Fiscal
January 2nd, 2013
1:14 pm
Ozzie – I enjoyed reading your posts (12:38 and 12:43). It is tough to break into various discussion as a realtive newby. Then again, many of the blog regulars do have more baseball knowledge and a more expansive command of team rosters and statistics. I learn alot by reading the posts here.
I have watched alot of baseball over the years and try to interject interesting posts to mostly a silent reception. My first reaction is one of frustration, but then I realize I really have not added much to the discussion. I do appreciate the fairly balanced views by many of the blog regulars. I assume that if have no patience for posters who issue personal attacks and take extreme contrarian views, then the blog regulars will more likely have even less patience.
In short, I enjoy this blog. i wish I could part of the “in” crowd at times, but then I realize I am way beyond my high school years.
ncscoots
January 2nd, 2013
1:14 pm
That is why Twitter is becoming the preferred communication model for beat reporters and the press. Less stressful. Immediate.
No need for actual writing skills. Less taxing intellectually. Easy.
[The blog is] More of place where people hold conversations with other regulars versus constant evolving and new set of people swarming around a new topic.
Do folks of this opinion ever consider that “regulars” were newbies, at some point? That one of the reasons a poster becomes a “regular” is that the forum meets the bar of being newly interesting on a constant basis, and thus invites returning to it?
You know, not in-games, maybe, but the rest of the time?
ncscoots
January 2nd, 2013
1:24 pm
Ninth out of thirty teams is hardly anything to sneeze at. It should put us in the playoffs.
I don’t know why anyone would think this. Gotta be one of the best five teams in the league just to get the play-in game. Braves could be better than any team in the AL and that would have absolutely zero bearing on their playoff chances.
From the perspective of six weeks to PCR, this could be a very tough year for several teams who may end up being very good and still miss the playoffs. The top two (or even three) teams in each division look pretty strong, and there aren’t enough chairs at the dance for all of them.
VaBravesFan
January 2nd, 2013
1:24 pm
I’m a regular here on the ole blog. Been on here for about 4 years. But I tend to not spend as much time on here during the actual games. I enjoy talking during the offseason and in between games, where people can actually keep a convo going.
VaBravesFan
January 2nd, 2013
1:26 pm
Winning a Wild Card spot should no longer be considered a “Playoff Berth or Appearance” Unless you actually win the 1 single game to actually get to the playoff”S”
raffy
January 2nd, 2013
1:33 pm
first
Cliff Fiscal
January 2nd, 2013
1:33 pm
I consider reaching the one-game wild card a playoff appearance. But, such an “appearance” does not excite me much especially given the futility of the Braves (and Falcons) in their playoff appearances over the past several years.
The Braves and Falcons are my favorite two sports teams. I vaguely remember what it was like to celebrate a playoff victory.
BravePack(FreeFan)
January 2nd, 2013
1:34 pm
I agree VA. I stay away during games as there is way too much trolling and garbage spewed during that time. Plus I’d much rather be watching the game.
ncscoots
January 2nd, 2013
1:36 pm
I consider reaching the one-game wild card a playoff appearance.
As does the union and thus the players, obviously, since participants receive a playoff check.
cricket
January 2nd, 2013
1:37 pm
Winning a Wild Card spot should no longer be considered a “Playoff Berth or Appearance” Unless you actually win the 1 single game to actually get to the playoff”S”
agree
TheOnlyBravesFan
January 2nd, 2013
1:37 pm
We could compare the Braves to the Falcons since 2008…. nice team, but can’t get it done come playoff time. Not elite.
Cliff Fiscal
January 2nd, 2013
1:38 pm
Yeah, the game blogs are pretty grim. The “Fire Fredi” trolls are out in force after every loss and sometimes after many of the victories. Reason goes out of the window, and there is a feeling that the Braves are the worst oganization to ever grace professional sports.
Cliff Fiscal
January 2nd, 2013
1:40 pm
“Organization” and not “oganization.” I need a proofe reader big time
TheOnlyBravesFan
January 2nd, 2013
1:40 pm
getting to the play-in game means you only play 1 more game than the Astros… basically like a tie-breaker. I can see why some wouldn’t consider it the playoffs
ncscoots
January 2nd, 2013
1:43 pm
“Organization” and not “oganization.” I need a proofe reader big time
Typo-correction posts are spawn of the devil, Cliff. According to some “regulars”, that is.
OK, according to me, but still….
Bay Area Steve
January 2nd, 2013
1:45 pm
“try to interject interesting posts to mostly a silent reception.”
Please continue with your attempts. I think many of our less frequent participants get turned off when their posts aren’t responded to. What I feel they’re missing is the fact that virtually all posts here are not responded to. Doesn’t mean they aren’t read, or ain’t appreciated.
I think the goal with a comment should be to make it interesting, though-provoking, funny, and/or original, not to get the most responses. If you just want responses, insult SEC football or Fredi Gonzalez. When all else fails, counter Shaun.
Cliff Fiscal
January 2nd, 2013
1:52 pm
ncscoots – Typo-correction posts are spawn of the devil, Cliff. According to some “regulars”, that is.
I guess such posts constitute the forgotten eighth deadly sin: sloth, pride, gluttony, . . and typo-correction posts.
chipontheroad
January 2nd, 2013
1:54 pm
I need to say I enjoyed reading y’all last year and believe our Bravos are looking good to make a run,so long Chipper hello nuevo Bravos
VaBravesFan
January 2nd, 2013
1:54 pm
To me, its not about all the Fire Fredi crap and all the nonsense during games that makes me stay away often during games. Were all watching the game, we have a few regulars like Venice Jim giving us the play by play. But most of the comments are based on BOOing or Celebrating after every AB. There is really no discussion going on, and if there is it’s extremely tough to keep it going. Doesn’t take long to get a page of comments during a game. Usually after a really tough loss, there will be a handful of pages after midnight during the very early AM hours of just people going bonkers with calling Fredi and other complete idiots and so on. lol
cricket
January 2nd, 2013
1:54 pm
When all else fails, counter Shaun.
Cruel and unusual punishment is not fair even when inflicted on oneself and definitely not acceptable here as it gets inflicted on all innocent bystander-esque blog readers as an extension.
DAP
January 2nd, 2013
1:55 pm
sometimes i stand in my hot tub and applaud posts. that is my response, though i may not type anything at all.
i admit, usually i respond like this for my own posts only.
dylan
January 2nd, 2013
1:57 pm
The more I think about it, the more I like asdrubal Cabrera for the braves. Great defense, switch hitter, pretty good hitter, and can play 3rd. Not much pop, but should have a good avg while providing stellar defense. Pair that with my Cory hart idea, move prado to second, and you’ve got easily the best defensive infield in the game
Cliff Fiscal
January 2nd, 2013
1:58 pm
BAS – When all else fails, counter Shaun.
I have engaged in that activity and emerged with a big headache. Seriously, I do not see Shaun posting much lately. I miss his posts and stats-oriented viewpoints (was that an understatement?). He has opinions that are very easy to debate, but yet he often provides great information.
Cliff Fiscal
January 2nd, 2013
2:00 pm
VaBravesFan- To clarify, I refer mainly to the post-game blogs and not so much discussions during the game. I agree with your opinion about the nature of post-game blogging after a tough loss.
VaBravesFan
January 2nd, 2013
2:01 pm
When I first found this blog, I spent most of my time trying to ask DOB questions lol.
ncscoots
January 2nd, 2013
2:02 pm
sometimes i stand in my hot tub and applaud posts.
I’ll prolly spend the rest of the afternoon banishing that vision from my head, DAP.
raleighbravefan
January 2nd, 2013
2:06 pm
I’ve been here since early 2006. A few observations…
There have always been a plethora of opposing views, and the “regulare” often disagree, but rarely shut them down (even when they are “unpleasant”)
“newbies” are only that if they leave. SeeTOBF for an (exagerated) example of how you can become a part of the discussion quickly.
Many of my comments drawn no retort, or reaction of any kind. Doesn’t mean I’m not part of the discusion, and a contributing member…or…maybe…Hey, wait a minute…
VaBravesFan
January 2nd, 2013
2:06 pm
I think Shaun makes good points and has solid opinions, but thats never good enough for him. He never lets anything go and will ramble on and on about the same topic for days and weeks. He’s relentless. There’s never no agreeing to disagree with him. I love a good debate but he digs very deep into every single little detail about it. I mean you could agree with him and he’d still be trying to convince you he’s right…. lol
TheOnlyBravesFan
January 2nd, 2013
2:10 pm
SeeTOBF for an (exagerated) example of how you can become a part of the discussion quickly.
Way exaggerated…. too aggressive! Don’t recommend that path at all.
He….will ramble on and on about the same topic for days and weeks. He’s relentless.
Sounds like me, about, well, you know who!
DAP
January 2nd, 2013
2:11 pm
scoots I’ll prolly spend the rest of the afternoon banishing that vision from my head, DAP.
i applauded that, but but my hands are all water logged.
Cliff Fiscal
January 2nd, 2013
2:15 pm
With Shaun, I made the mistake of getting into a discussion on the nature of “clutch” hitting. This was under my old name Tumbledown. Of course, I was a newby last year to this blog and did not realize that the “clutch” debate had gone on for years without any impact on Shaun’s opinion. I had run smack into a brick wall on the topic. Nevertheless, I do not discount his opinion but wish he was better at not doing the same with respect to people who disagree with him.
dylan
January 2nd, 2013
2:15 pm
Tobf
That sounds like you about a lot of players
or me and Cory hart
cricket
January 2nd, 2013
2:16 pm
Many of my comments drawn no retort, or reaction of any kind.
is that why some people create multiple monikers and talk to themselves?
Mr Pitts
January 2nd, 2013
2:20 pm
“Was there a big debate on here regarding the new BP hats? I’m too lazy to go back and look.”
Yes, most white people didn’t understand why it might be offensive [big surprise] to some, and enlightened people thought it unneccessary to use these stupid stereotype ’screaming/laughing’ Indian faces on any apparel–in other words, if it doesn’t feel right, don’t do it. Predictably, some white people claimed to be as much as 1/16 American Indian,so this made them an expert on why nobody should be offended. Others cloaked the issue in ‘this is a tribute to American Indians and something to be proud of’ schtick. Needless to say, those couple of days were very amusing. My guess is that a couple Braves front office interns looked at a couple samples from a vendor and choe the one that looked cool…..the screaming Indian face.
Mr Pitts
January 2nd, 2013
2:20 pm
“Was there a big debate on here regarding the new BP hats? I’m too lazy to go back and look.”
Yes, most white people didn’t understand why it might be offensive [big surprise] to some, and enlightened people thought it unneccessary to use these stupid stereotype ’screaming/laughing’ Indian faces on any apparel–in other words, if it doesn’t feel right, don’t do it. Predictably, some white people claimed to be as much as 1/16 American Indian,so this made them an expert on why nobody should be offended. Others cloaked the issue in ‘this is a tribute to American Indians and something to be proud of’ schtick. Needless to say, those couple of days of reading white people responses were very amusing. My guess is that a couple Braves front office interns looked at a couple samples from a vendor and choe the one that looked cool…..the screaming Indian face.
Murph
January 2nd, 2013
2:24 pm
I just watched Dances With Wolves a couple of days ago, so I feel qualified to speak on the subject of Native American feelings….
The hat is not a big deal.
cabravesfan
January 2nd, 2013
2:26 pm
I’m impressed that one can tell the race of another person on a blog. Impressive.
ncscoots
January 2nd, 2013
2:27 pm
Yes, most white people didn’t understand why it might be offensive [big surprise] to some
I find “white people” to be a pejorative term, so I’ll thank you to not offend me by using it.
raleighbravefan
January 2nd, 2013
2:27 pm
Murph – Of course, in reality, very little is offensive to you.
Mr Pitts
January 2nd, 2013
2:28 pm
Murph: I do wonder sometimes if Fredi reads the blog. There were a couple of times last season when a proposed lineup change or bullpen management strategy was debated on the blog only then to magically appear on Fredi’s lineup card a day later.
Or perhaps it was pretty obvious and his timetable to try something different wasn’t on the smae timetable as us virtual GMs thought it should be. My guess is that he didn’t get the idea from these blogs. Agreed?
Murph
January 2nd, 2013
2:28 pm
Big tetanka.
Mr Pitts
January 2nd, 2013
2:32 pm
nscoots, I’ll look up the meaning of pejorative when I have time and will let you know,based on my findings, whether or not an apology is in order. Thank You
cabravesfan
January 2nd, 2013
2:32 pm
Lots of interest in #Marlins’ Stanton, but sources all but rule out a deal. One source says chances are “as close to zero as they can be.”
From Rosenthal tweet just a moment ago
ncscoots
January 2nd, 2013
2:35 pm
From Rosenthal tweet just a moment ago
Seriously, how slow is news from the baseball world when one takes the time to mention a deal that has no chance of occurring, LOL?
Rest your thumbs, Ken, fercrissake.
Bay Area Steve
January 2nd, 2013
2:37 pm
I have a double-standard: I use white and black for race all the time, but deem all other colors offensive. Seems wrong of me. Even scoots, who I suspect is about as anti-political-correctness as a cat can be, finds it wrong. Yet…
cabravesfan
January 2nd, 2013
2:38 pm
Scoots-
Slow, for sure, but since the Marlins did say last week they would listen to any offer, a follow up is logical.
Bay Area Steve
January 2nd, 2013
2:39 pm
“Murph – Of course, in reality, very little is offensive to you.”
OK, that might be the truthiest truth ever thruthed here.
Murph: five-year-old, birthday cake, dagger-eyes story, stat.
VaBravesFan
January 2nd, 2013
2:41 pm
This is the type of offer it would take to land Stanton. A Franchise Altering Package.
Rangers offer
OF Craig Gentry
OF Leonys Martin
SS Jurickson Profar
3B Mike Olt
LHP Martin Perez
C Jorge Alfaro
Might not take all of them, but you can bet it would take a 5 player package or more. Definitely would take 3 blue chip prospects in my opinion along with others.
Bay Area Steve
January 2nd, 2013
2:45 pm
“Rangers offer: OF Craig Gentry, OF Leonys Martin, SS Jurickson Profar, 3B Mike Olt, LHP Martin Perez, C Jorge Alfaro”
So, you’re saying offering Gattis is too much, then?
Murph
January 2nd, 2013
2:48 pm
Are you guys saying that I lack filters or something? Am I not politically correct?
This is very surprising to me.
David O'Brien
January 2nd, 2013
2:50 pm
NEW BLOGGAGE
http://blogs.ajc.com/atlanta-braves-blog/2013/01/02/on-the-braves-indian-head-logo-future-catching-and-lf/
ncscoots
January 2nd, 2013
2:50 pm
who I suspect is about as anti-political-correctness as a cat can be
That’s true, insofar as I do not deal well with intolerance of any kind. And make no mistake, those who would impress upon others their own sensitivities, their own sterotypes, their own beliefs as to “correct”, are as intolerant as those others who cause them to do so. Neither camp finds welcome in my home.
BravePack(FreeFan)
January 2nd, 2013
2:52 pm
Murph
January 2nd, 2013
2:24 pm
I just watched Dances With Wolves a couple of days ago, so I feel qualified to speak on the subject of Native American feelings….
The hat is not a big deal.
Nice. Murph I missed ya buddy. Welcome bcak.
VaBravesFan
January 2nd, 2013
2:52 pm
Wren doesn’t have enough prospect talent to even get the Marlins talking, even if he was willing to unload the farm it wouldn’t be enough. Now the DBacks and Justin Upton are a different story, we have enough to get him I think, problem is Wren doesn’t wanna hurt our already bad farm unless he can totally screw someone like he did with the Astro’s.
DAP
January 2nd, 2013
3:04 pm
mr pitts most white people didn’t understand why it might be offensive [big surprise] to some, and enlightened people thought it unneccessary to use these stupid stereotype ’screaming/laughing’ Indian faces on any apparel–in other words, if it doesn’t feel right, don’t do it.
screaming indian face feels right to me. i want to see it. it shouldnt be offensive, its not an attempt to represent anyone or anything specific. a “brave” is a pretty generic thing, as is an “indian”. i have no problem with any emblem used, and i really think knockahoma should be back.
On the Braves’ Indian-head logo, future catching and LF | Atlanta Braves
January 2nd, 2013
3:15 pm
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nolie
January 2nd, 2013
4:45 pm
That is why Twitter is becoming the preferred communication model for beat reporters and the press. Less stressful. Immediate. You can jump around topically avoiding topic burn out, etc….Ozzie
as ADD sweeps the country….
Wide Right
January 2nd, 2013
10:05 pm
Re: the BP caps. I agree with much of what DOB and the rest of you wrote. But I also think the Braves should think hard about making a change. This problem is not going away and it’s always a killjoy. I just want to pull for the baseball team I loved since I was a kid. I don’t want to offend anyone. I think about the dilemma of the Braves marketing team, the challenge of trying to both build and avoid their image.
Many people find “Indian” mascots offensive. On the other hand, ballClubs want to preserve their history. The Indians and the Redskins are SOL here, unable to bridge this divide. However, IMO, the Braves are not…and could do something Creative…According to Dictionary.com, the definition of the noun brave is…
4.
a brave person.
5.
a warrior, especially among North American Indian tribes.
I think the Braves should do away with all “Indian” imagery…and focus on #4. There are obvious historical examples of great bravery out of ATLANTA. But even today…firefighters, policemen, teachers, soldiers. These people deserve to be honored.
The best looking uniform in baseball is the new braves uni, IMO, and requires no tomahawk. Do away with the chop – it IS offensive, IMO. Doesn’t it come from Bugs Bunny or something like that.
Anyway, I’ll shut up now. I just think, more so than any other sports team with the same undying issue, the Braves have an opportunity to put it all to rest in a bold and creative way that might even invigorate the fan base.
Ward
January 3rd, 2013
1:07 am
Just hope that new cap, doesn’t cures the Braves, and they wind up last this year! Little humor.
single white dove
January 4th, 2013
11:12 am
DOB, I thought Who’s was playing first base????
count_schemula
January 7th, 2013
6:46 am
Johnny Canada – “Because nobody knows rap music like a middle aged, white, baseball beat writer.”
You can thank us that rap music even exists, since we’ve been listening from the beginning. Rap could have been a fad like disco until the people who are now middle aged white guys made it viable. Who do you think bought this stuff when it was not chart music?
I took a lot of heat in the early 80s for mixing rap into my mix tapes with Bob Dylan, Bad Brains, Butthole Surfers, Replacements, R.E.M., Dead Kennedys, Prince, Mission of Burma, Hüsker Dü, Brain Eno, Midnight Oil, Smiths, Hoodoo Gurus, Tom Waits, Big Black and Iron Maiden.
How about a little respect for the people who will forget more “rap music” that you will ever likely know. Now go bump your Machine Gun Kelly and apply your pimple cream with a clean cotton swab.
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January 8th, 2013
2:33 pm
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David O'Brien
January 10th, 2013
6:02 am
Let’s see, Rangers,Nats,Phillies,Orioles,Giants,Yankees,Angels,Dodgers don’t platoon outfielders. They are winners. Just keep letting Bobby Cox run things with platooning and 3rd place is guaranteed this year. — DOB’s BJ… (Dec. 19)
Phillies likely togo with what they have, use platoon in left field (the Philadelphia Inquirer,Jan. 9): http://articles.philly.com/2013-01-09/sports/36239761_1_darin-ruf-john-mayberry-phillies-outfield