Tom–The man who died is my wife’s uncle. As far as his family goes, he disappeared 15-20 years ago. They have been searching and searching for him. They find him only to find out that he is dead. My father-in-law lived with his family, while in college. When he was a child, my mother-in-law bathed him. We called my in-laws last night to tell them the news–that we found him and he is dead. Tonight, I dropped my wife off at JFK to fly to Kolkata. I came home to see that they have arrested the person of interest. She said that she has hated Muslims and Hindus since 9/11. Saw him and pushed him. just called my father-in-law to say that his nephew was killed in a hate crime.
VJ–It is surreal. I have spent countless hours trying to find him through the minor crevices of google and nothing. It was this weird blackhole in the family. His parents died of grief–he just disappeared and cut off contact. The one day his name is splashed across the NY Times, CNN, the Washington Post.
Moe, sorry man. When you read that stuff it’s bad enough. For the most part, we’re distanced from it because we don’t know the person/people involved, or anyone that knows or is related to the person/people involved.
Tom–I agree. I never met him so it does not hit me immediately. My wife only remembers him from when she was a child. But just talking with my father-in-law was excruciating. He loved him. When Sunando was a child, my father-in-law lived with his family. Sunando’s father worked at a university in Kolkata, where my father-in-law did his undergrad, so he lived with the family while going to school. It would have been difficult news to deliver anyway. But Sunando had cut ties with the family without explanation. So it was a bit of a double blow. Anyway, enough of family drama.
Moe, one last thought… I can’t imagine trying to explain to someone about the REASON for the death. In my life, I’ve only had to deal with natural causes or accidents. Nothing like that…
Moe, I’m up for that possibility, but sometimes that Mets’ schedule and mine are not in sync. I never forgot last year, but I just couldn’t get away when the Braves were in NY.
Tom–I completely understand. I went to the second game of the season this past year–a Dickey-Jurrjens fiasco. Never made it after that. Maybe because it was also an ill-fated game. On the train en route to the game, I received a call that the mother of two close friends in Kolkata was found dead in a pond. (What is up with random deaths related to India.)
We had 3 straight shows this month….2 acoustics and 1 full band. I like the acoustics because I get to play guitar again (our lead guitar player doesn’t live close to the venue that hires us for acoustic and we play without him)
And while he’s a better lead guitar player than me, I’m a better rhythm guitar player than him. And we’re able to take more requests since I can figure out songs pretty easily. We played “Free Bird” for the first time ever!
Yeah, but the tunes help to reinforce memories. The music genre doesn’t really matter.
What matters is the memory of swinging on a long rope over the lake. “Black Water” by the Doobie Brothers reminds me of such a day, as it was blasting away on FM, when I dropped.
Splash!
We were supposed to be in school, but that Spring day, it was way too nice…
Couch Tater; I’m w/ya man; my tunes don’t ever get old w/ me, Journey, Kansas, styx; etc. My 20 yr. old daughter, 16 yr. old son enjoy them, the sounds never die.
“DOB we need a new blog…. seems the baseball free agent market is slow…. Do you think Michael Bourn will resign with the braves??”
Yeah, baseball news is pretty heavy this time of year. Some of you should just log onto facebook and IM all nightor get a hotel room. And we don’t need Bourne’s soon-to-be massively overpriced contract. I’m sure he’ll get 50K+ per strikeout.
I think I’d rather see Frank Wren trade for David DeJesus to be the everyday LFer. We could plug him atop the order with Prado right behind him. That would give us two guys who can produce OBP’s around 350. From a financial standpoint DeJesus would be a 1 year 5.75 million investment (Buyout included for 2014) If he has a good 2013 we’ll have the option to keep him for 6.5 million in 2014.
Now I don’t think he’s a pure upgrade over what we have already, but he’s a safer option, we know what were gonna get from him. He’ll likely hit around 280 with 35-40 XBH and he’s never struck out more than 89 times in a season. From my post like night I compared him to Martin Prado. I’ve seen so many say DeJesus is a bum and it would be wasted money to bring him in. But here it is.
VaBraves: I have been touting DeJesus for months now and believe he would come rather cheaply in a trade, which is the key. I’m also pretty sure he’s played all 3 OF spots in his career and that’s how I like my cheaper OF options….versatile.
Another guy that’s probably a better option if he’s truly available is Alejandro De Aza. He would give us that true leadoff guy with speed and add a lot more speed in LF than your everyday corner outfielder.
Todd Cunningham may be the best of in house options. Looks like a guy who could lead off, steal some bases and play good defense in LF, plus move over to CF when BJ needs a day off
DeJesus would also be a good pickup to counter BJ’s strikeout and OBP issues. While still providing a better batting line than Michael Bourn has produced as well as similar XBH numbers in the leadoff spot.
One of those players that shouldn’t cost much to obtain, which could lead to him not being moved. After all he’s a solid player who could have a good 1st half upping his trade value before the deadline. It certainly shouldn’t cost a top prospect. Of course there is no real rumors of the Braves having interest in him, but there has been some possible DeJesus be traded rumors on the Cubs pages and so on.
In my opinion I really believe Frank Wren didn’t wanna have another Tyler Pastornicky situation with Todd Cunningham. After he’s 23 years old, has played well in the minors, and was estimated to reach the Majors in 2013, but yet there is absolutely zero talk of him getting his shot. They clearly don’t believe in the guy and at best he might be a solid 4th OF.
I agree, he looks like a guy who could bat leadoff in the future and do the little things. Provides some speed, good contact at the plate. I remember saying the same thing about Pastornicky and actually talked myself into saying he was a upgrade over Alex “SeaBass” Gonzalez…
If the O’s continue to be smitten by McLouth, a guy to keep an eye on in Spring Training is Nolan Reimold. He’s battled injuries so far in his MLB career but definitely has talent.
But like I’ve always said when something makes too much sense it just won’t happen. Imagine if DeJesus was a free agent? I mean Shane Victorino was able to get 3/39…. DeJesus in my opinion is the better player at this point in there careers. Shane is hitting a early decline I believe. Angel Pagan got 4/40. DeJesus is right in there ballfield in terms of overall value in my opinion.
Are we really to the point of getting someone because we know what he’d put up even though the internal options MIGHT be better but might not?
DeJesus might not be that bad a pick up, but is he really going to be that much of a difference maker? He really was pitiful against LHP last year – .149, .289, .149 – but somewhat better through his career.
He’s basically steady in his production – both through his career and from first half of the year throguh the second half, but I am just less than floored by the prospect of trading someone for him. I think we’d do just as well staying put and giving our own guys a shot at LF in ST.
I know ” I ” do alot of wishful thinking, probably outrageous, insane, mixing in some stupidity, or moronic blogging, or commenting, I’m sure not “ever” making any sense at all most of the time, if not any time at all. I’m by far never close to bein’ an expert on our Bravos, or baseball issues in general, but I’m nuts about the game, about our home team, very passionate about ‘em, as many as ya’ll are, & ya’ll put up w/ nonsense like me, I gotta say a heartfelt Thank you to all of ya man, ’cause I have a blast blogg’n w/ ya’ll(A Big Thank you DOB for allowing me to). Gosh, ya’ll read this & say there goes o’l 74bj again bein’ a wacked Bafoon. Ya’ll helped me alot on several occasions to break monotiny(if spelled correctly?) & insight. I’m very appreciative for.
Your statement last night Lew in saying that our platoon/internal options can be counted on to beat Choo’s line wasn’t a smart one imo… Juan isn’t posting a .400+ OBP against RHP, or a .300+ avg. He may slug .500+, but not likely.
And Reed may post a .340 OBP against LHP, but he’s only done so once in the last 3 years…
Choo would definitely have been better than anything else we have. 132 OPS+ and elite numbers against RHP, very good OBP against lefties. Our platoon isn’t coming close to that.
Holding him accountable? No, but shouldn’t it be considered as a factor in how he might perform when the chips are down?
Look – I have nothing whatsoever against the Dude – nothing at all. I think he’s a decent, though hardly spectacular player. If we were TRULY in a bind, he might work out pretty well. But I don’t consider us to be in a bind and am totally NOT in favor of doing a deal for the sake of doing a dela and that’s what picking up DeJesus seems to me to be.
If we can’t find someone who would truly be a difference maker – someone who makes us so much stronger that we improve drastically, then I’d just as soon give our in house options a shot at the job – we’re going to have to find out what they can do sooner or later anyway – and DeJesus is exactly the type of player we could get at the deadline if need be.
I agree that the platoon could be better, I’m just throwing a player out there who could be a everyday option. Even if DeJesus is bad vs LHP, the guy still produced a overall 350+ OBP. None of our current options could do that if they played everyday. That’s why platoon splits are sometimes meaningless. It’s about the overall numbers.
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richbrave
December 30th, 2012
12:05 am
Me too. NYTOL.
Tom O'Hawke
December 30th, 2012
12:06 am
Night, richbrave.
richbrave
December 30th, 2012
12:06 am
Moe Berg sighting. How was INDIA?
Moe Berg
December 30th, 2012
12:11 am
Tom–The man who died is my wife’s uncle. As far as his family goes, he disappeared 15-20 years ago. They have been searching and searching for him. They find him only to find out that he is dead. My father-in-law lived with his family, while in college. When he was a child, my mother-in-law bathed him. We called my in-laws last night to tell them the news–that we found him and he is dead. Tonight, I dropped my wife off at JFK to fly to Kolkata. I came home to see that they have arrested the person of interest. She said that she has hated Muslims and Hindus since 9/11. Saw him and pushed him. just called my father-in-law to say that his nephew was killed in a hate crime.
Moe Berg
December 30th, 2012
12:13 am
Hey richbrave–I am doing well. Had a good time, when there a few months ago. Think my wife is going back for a more somber visit.
Venice Jim
December 30th, 2012
12:14 am
Wow – that is horrible…
TheOnlyBravesFan
December 30th, 2012
12:17 am
Horrible…. the world is evil and just getting worse. I lose faith in humanity day by day…
Good night all. Peace.
Tom O'Hawke
December 30th, 2012
12:18 am
Moe Berg
Are you talking about the man named, Sen, that had a printing place in Queens? The one that they just arrested the woman for a hate crime?
Moe Berg
December 30th, 2012
12:18 am
VJ–It is surreal. I have spent countless hours trying to find him through the minor crevices of google and nothing. It was this weird blackhole in the family. His parents died of grief–he just disappeared and cut off contact. The one day his name is splashed across the NY Times, CNN, the Washington Post.
Moe Berg
December 30th, 2012
12:19 am
Tom–Yes. My wife’s last name is also Sen. His father was the younger brother of my wife’s grandfather.
Tom O'Hawke
December 30th, 2012
12:23 am
Moe, sorry man. When you read that stuff it’s bad enough. For the most part, we’re distanced from it because we don’t know the person/people involved, or anyone that knows or is related to the person/people involved.
Venice Jim
December 30th, 2012
12:28 am
Heading off – Moe, best of luck dealing with the aftermath…
Moe Berg
December 30th, 2012
12:28 am
Tom–I agree. I never met him so it does not hit me immediately. My wife only remembers him from when she was a child. But just talking with my father-in-law was excruciating. He loved him. When Sunando was a child, my father-in-law lived with his family. Sunando’s father worked at a university in Kolkata, where my father-in-law did his undergrad, so he lived with the family while going to school. It would have been difficult news to deliver anyway. But Sunando had cut ties with the family without explanation. So it was a bit of a double blow. Anyway, enough of family drama.
Moe Berg
December 30th, 2012
12:29 am
Thanks, VJ.
Moe Berg
December 30th, 2012
12:31 am
Tom–On another (and more baseball-related) note. We should plan on seeing a Braves game together in Flushing this season.
Tom O'Hawke
December 30th, 2012
12:32 am
Moe, one last thought… I can’t imagine trying to explain to someone about the REASON for the death. In my life, I’ve only had to deal with natural causes or accidents. Nothing like that…
OK, I’m done with that morbid subject!
Moe Berg
December 30th, 2012
12:34 am
Tom–Good to be done with it. Was just weirded out after getting off the phone.
Tom O'Hawke
December 30th, 2012
12:35 am
Moe, I’m up for that possibility, but sometimes that Mets’ schedule and mine are not in sync. I never forgot last year, but I just couldn’t get away when the Braves were in NY.
Maybe, this year it’ll happen.
Moe Berg
December 30th, 2012
12:40 am
Tom–I completely understand. I went to the second game of the season this past year–a Dickey-Jurrjens fiasco. Never made it after that. Maybe because it was also an ill-fated game. On the train en route to the game, I received a call that the mother of two close friends in Kolkata was found dead in a pond. (What is up with random deaths related to India.)
Tom O'Hawke
December 30th, 2012
12:42 am
Moe, did they ever find out how or why she died?
Moe Berg
December 30th, 2012
12:46 am
Nope.
Really did not mean to be so morbid tonight.
jeffrey d
December 30th, 2012
12:46 am
No.
Tom O'Hawke
December 30th, 2012
12:48 am
Don’t worry about it, Moe. When it hits so close to home, it’s probably better to talk about it. It’s not as if the blog is busy, anyway.
Moe Berg
December 30th, 2012
12:49 am
Thanks, Tom. I should probably think of calling it a night. Have a meeting in the morning.
Tom O'Hawke
December 30th, 2012
12:49 am
Hi jeffrey d… how did you know? Have you been following it?
Tom O'Hawke
December 30th, 2012
12:50 am
Good night, Moe. Good talking to you, again.
jeffrey d
December 30th, 2012
12:51 am
I logged into the blog and saw a “yes or no” question. Given the circumstances, I chose “no”
jeffrey d
December 30th, 2012
12:52 am
Besides that, I have no idea what we’re talking about.
Tom O'Hawke
December 30th, 2012
12:52 am
Good choice!
Is your band still playing much?
jeffrey d
December 30th, 2012
12:55 am
We had 3 straight shows this month….2 acoustics and 1 full band. I like the acoustics because I get to play guitar again (our lead guitar player doesn’t live close to the venue that hires us for acoustic and we play without him)
jeffrey d
December 30th, 2012
12:57 am
And while he’s a better lead guitar player than me, I’m a better rhythm guitar player than him. And we’re able to take more requests since I can figure out songs pretty easily. We played “Free Bird” for the first time ever!
Tom O'Hawke
December 30th, 2012
12:59 am
It’s good to see you’re doing well with the gigs. Do you have a bass player fill in for the acoustic gigs?
jeffrey d
December 30th, 2012
1:02 am
Nah, the acoustic gigs are me, the rhythm guitar player (mostly just singing) and the drummer on a cajon.
It’s not much. We usually make around $50 a person per gig. I’d love to do this professionally, but for the moment it’s just a side job.
jeffrey d
December 30th, 2012
1:05 am
Anyway….I haven’t been here in awhile, and I was under the impression that Tom O’Hawke was extinct.
Tom O'Hawke
December 30th, 2012
1:05 am
Well, if you enjoy playing… then ANYTHING they give you is gravy. Not to many of us get payed for what we enjoy doing.
Tom O'Hawke
December 30th, 2012
1:06 am
Not extinct, jeff, just dormant.
Tom O'Hawke
December 30th, 2012
1:09 am
Wow, 2 grammatical errors in my 1:05. There goes my good WAR numbers, for tonight.
jeffrey d
December 30th, 2012
1:09 am
I mean, besides my first ever Falcons’ regular season game, when they won 34-0
jeffrey d
December 30th, 2012
1:10 am
Wow, 2 grammatical errors in my 1:05. There goes my good WAR numbers, for tonight.
Yeah, I was gonna say your WAR, BABIP+ and OPS+ were gonna take a hit. I wouldn’t want to hear from Shaun tomorrow
Tom O'Hawke
December 30th, 2012
1:12 am
Fortunately, Shaun doesn’t work on Sundays – I still have time to bring them back up.
jeffrey d
December 30th, 2012
1:13 am
hm, too bad.
jeffrey d
December 30th, 2012
1:16 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KQFeW_F_Pk
us
jeffrey d
December 30th, 2012
1:18 am
(me on the right)
Tom O'Hawke
December 30th, 2012
1:22 am
Not bad, Jeff, not bad at all. (Yes, I know what you look like!)
Do you have any acoustic videos. I’d love to see your, “Free Bird”.
jeffrey d
December 30th, 2012
1:23 am
What’s that blog? You want more? Well here’s me doing “Hound Dog”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFlr1GiRCAw
jeffrey d
December 30th, 2012
1:24 am
Oh, gosh no. Our rendition of “Free Bird” was me happening to know the chords when our drummer’s drunk farther yelled out, “FREE BIRD!!!”
jeffrey d
December 30th, 2012
1:26 am
After an hour, the crowd of our first acoustic set consisted of my parents and our drummer’s parents
Tom O'Hawke
December 30th, 2012
1:28 am
That’s OK, Jeff, you gave me a dog instead of a bird, but in acoustic! And THAT was before you even read my question.
Tom O'Hawke
December 30th, 2012
1:29 am
In the words of Tomahawkin’ … Ouch!
jeffrey d
December 30th, 2012
1:32 am
I don’t get it….we sucked?
Tom O'Hawke
December 30th, 2012
1:35 am
My, “Ouch”, was in reference to your, 1:28.
All I know is, “Hound Dog”, and I thought you did a very good job.
Tom O'Hawke
December 30th, 2012
1:35 am
Make that… your, 1:26!
uga-brave
December 30th, 2012
1:37 am
moe berg, never educate a idiot.
jeffrey d
December 30th, 2012
1:38 am
Well if we’re going for great posts, then how ’bout my moneymaker
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bp1slP8y8oc
Tom O'Hawke
December 30th, 2012
1:43 am
Hello Mr. Smiley!
Jeffrey, I’m playing it, but I’ve heard that one a time or two.
If I ever get down to Atlanta, again, and you’re playing… I’d like to record you, myself. I’ll plug right into your amplifier, if possible.
The sound quality of that camera you use leaves a lot to be desired, you know?
jeffrey d
December 30th, 2012
1:45 am
We’re all teachers. It’s not like we’ve got a huge jackpot covered somewhere
uga-brave
December 30th, 2012
1:47 am
until i can BAS to sign on
Tom O'Hawke
December 30th, 2012
1:47 am
Of course not… But if you have better sound quality on your YouTube videos, wouldn’t it be a better promotion for you to get more gigs?
Tom O'Hawke
December 30th, 2012
1:48 am
uga, I haven’t seen BAS since I’ve been back on the blog. (Two weeks?)
jeffrey d
December 30th, 2012
1:49 am
heh, touche
uga-brave
December 30th, 2012
1:50 am
either way tom how are the finger lakes? you live up there right?
Tom O'Hawke
December 30th, 2012
1:51 am
Fish there, uga. I live in Albany. Love that region, though.
uga-brave
December 30th, 2012
1:59 am
l:ol: you taught me how to do this
Tom O'Hawke
December 30th, 2012
2:01 am
I didn’t teach you, l:ol: That must have been, Wayne.
Tom O'Hawke
December 30th, 2012
2:03 am
Ha,ha If you had reversed your 1ST colon with the “l”, then I would’ve taken credit for it.
uga-brave
December 30th, 2012
2:04 am
res dogs are on 1857. uverse.
Tom O'Hawke
December 30th, 2012
2:05 am
Now, THAT I can take credit for.
uga-brave
December 30th, 2012
2:05 am
tarantino at his best.
Bay Area Steve
December 30th, 2012
3:04 am
Gazoo don’t know jack ’bout no smileys…
Bay Area Steve
December 30th, 2012
3:06 am
Tater,
You done killed it again, brother. That Ma bit was brilliant.
uga-brave
December 30th, 2012
3:49 am
bas, showing out.
Couch Tater
December 30th, 2012
7:49 am
the 70’s are over face it.
Yeah, but the tunes help to reinforce memories. The music genre doesn’t really matter.
What matters is the memory of swinging on a long rope over the lake. “Black Water” by the Doobie Brothers reminds me of such a day, as it was blasting away on FM, when I dropped.
Splash!
We were supposed to be in school, but that Spring day, it was way too nice…
“Jump on in, ladies! It ain’t cold.”
74bravesjersey
December 30th, 2012
9:02 am
jefferyd; enjoyed the youtube my man, when you wake to read this later. Ya’ll keep it going, best to ya.
74bravesjersey
December 30th, 2012
9:07 am
Couch Tater; I’m w/ya man; my tunes don’t ever get old w/ me, Journey, Kansas, styx; etc. My 20 yr. old daughter, 16 yr. old son enjoy them, the sounds never die.
74bravesjersey
December 30th, 2012
9:08 am
Those Doobie’s man, can’t go wrong there.
74bravesjersey
December 30th, 2012
9:13 am
Well…..GOOD MORNING VIETNAM!!!!!! Heh, I couldn’t resist, that movie was on the other day, sure it’s one of those Holiday re-shows.
BraveDan
December 30th, 2012
9:35 am
Lol, u are bored my friend!!!
Maine Braves Fan
December 30th, 2012
9:41 am
DOB we need a new blog…. seems the baseball free agent market is slow…. Do you think Michael Bourn will resign with the braves??
TheOnlyBravesFan
December 30th, 2012
9:43 am
Don’t Stop Believing (in Frank Wren)….
Mr Pitts
December 30th, 2012
10:00 am
“DOB we need a new blog…. seems the baseball free agent market is slow…. Do you think Michael Bourn will resign with the braves??”
Yeah, baseball news is pretty heavy this time of year. Some of you should just log onto facebook and IM all nightor get a hotel room. And we don’t need Bourne’s soon-to-be massively overpriced contract. I’m sure he’ll get 50K+ per strikeout.
VaBravesFan
December 30th, 2012
10:05 am
I think I’d rather see Frank Wren trade for David DeJesus to be the everyday LFer. We could plug him atop the order with Prado right behind him. That would give us two guys who can produce OBP’s around 350. From a financial standpoint DeJesus would be a 1 year 5.75 million investment (Buyout included for 2014) If he has a good 2013 we’ll have the option to keep him for 6.5 million in 2014.
Now I don’t think he’s a pure upgrade over what we have already, but he’s a safer option, we know what were gonna get from him. He’ll likely hit around 280 with 35-40 XBH and he’s never struck out more than 89 times in a season. From my post like night I compared him to Martin Prado. I’ve seen so many say DeJesus is a bum and it would be wasted money to bring him in. But here it is.
Career Batting Lines
Martin Prado 295/345/435/780 OPS+ 109
David DeJesus 281/355/419/774 OPS+ 106
Very comparable as hitters.
Joey G
December 30th, 2012
10:18 am
VA- I, too, would like to aquire DeJesus. What would Theo ask for in return?
TommyP
December 30th, 2012
10:20 am
VaBraves: I have been touting DeJesus for months now and believe he would come rather cheaply in a trade, which is the key. I’m also pretty sure he’s played all 3 OF spots in his career and that’s how I like my cheaper OF options….versatile.
Another guy that’s probably a better option if he’s truly available is Alejandro De Aza. He would give us that true leadoff guy with speed and add a lot more speed in LF than your everyday corner outfielder.
Joey G
December 30th, 2012
10:21 am
Todd Cunningham may be the best of in house options. Looks like a guy who could lead off, steal some bases and play good defense in LF, plus move over to CF when BJ needs a day off
VaBravesFan
December 30th, 2012
10:22 am
DeJesus would also be a good pickup to counter BJ’s strikeout and OBP issues. While still providing a better batting line than Michael Bourn has produced as well as similar XBH numbers in the leadoff spot.
VaBravesFan
December 30th, 2012
10:26 am
One of those players that shouldn’t cost much to obtain, which could lead to him not being moved. After all he’s a solid player who could have a good 1st half upping his trade value before the deadline. It certainly shouldn’t cost a top prospect. Of course there is no real rumors of the Braves having interest in him, but there has been some possible DeJesus be traded rumors on the Cubs pages and so on.
TommyP
December 30th, 2012
10:29 am
Dejesus is in an OF with the likes of Soriano, Campana, Brett Jackson (heir apparent) and Schierholtz.
I could see the Cubs holding onto Dejesus until Jackson is ready full time which could be in July.
VaBravesFan
December 30th, 2012
10:31 am
In my opinion I really believe Frank Wren didn’t wanna have another Tyler Pastornicky situation with Todd Cunningham. After he’s 23 years old, has played well in the minors, and was estimated to reach the Majors in 2013, but yet there is absolutely zero talk of him getting his shot. They clearly don’t believe in the guy and at best he might be a solid 4th OF.
I agree, he looks like a guy who could bat leadoff in the future and do the little things. Provides some speed, good contact at the plate. I remember saying the same thing about Pastornicky and actually talked myself into saying he was a upgrade over Alex “SeaBass” Gonzalez…
74bravesjersey
December 30th, 2012
10:32 am
VaBF;Hey, good assesment on Dejesus; seems resonable to me, Hang in there Frank, check ‘em out, seems to be a good bargain, get’em.
TommyP
December 30th, 2012
10:39 am
If the O’s continue to be smitten by McLouth, a guy to keep an eye on in Spring Training is Nolan Reimold. He’s battled injuries so far in his MLB career but definitely has talent.
Bats right, plays left.
VaBravesFan
December 30th, 2012
10:39 am
But like I’ve always said when something makes too much sense it just won’t happen. Imagine if DeJesus was a free agent? I mean Shane Victorino was able to get 3/39…. DeJesus in my opinion is the better player at this point in there careers. Shane is hitting a early decline I believe. Angel Pagan got 4/40. DeJesus is right in there ballfield in terms of overall value in my opinion.
Lew
December 30th, 2012
10:54 am
Are we really to the point of getting someone because we know what he’d put up even though the internal options MIGHT be better but might not?
DeJesus might not be that bad a pick up, but is he really going to be that much of a difference maker? He really was pitiful against LHP last year – .149, .289, .149 – but somewhat better through his career.
He’s basically steady in his production – both through his career and from first half of the year throguh the second half, but I am just less than floored by the prospect of trading someone for him. I think we’d do just as well staying put and giving our own guys a shot at LF in ST.
Lew
December 30th, 2012
10:55 am
And has he ever even played on a winning team, much less in the playoffs?
74bravesjersey
December 30th, 2012
10:56 am
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TommyP
December 30th, 2012
10:59 am
Lew: Just baseball talk….better than reading the crap that’s inundated the blog lately. (gotten really weird at times)
If the Braves were convinced the internal options were the best bet, we wouldn’t hear rumors leaked that they’re interested in Scott Hairston.
Give me Dejesus in a cheap trade over Scott Hairston….every day of the week.
TommyP
December 30th, 2012
11:01 am
Wait a minute….you’re holding DeJesus accountable for playing on HORRIBLE teams over his career?
TheOnlyBravesFan
December 30th, 2012
11:04 am
Your statement last night Lew in saying that our platoon/internal options can be counted on to beat Choo’s line wasn’t a smart one imo… Juan isn’t posting a .400+ OBP against RHP, or a .300+ avg. He may slug .500+, but not likely.
And Reed may post a .340 OBP against LHP, but he’s only done so once in the last 3 years…
Choo would definitely have been better than anything else we have. 132 OPS+ and elite numbers against RHP, very good OBP against lefties. Our platoon isn’t coming close to that.
TheOnlyBravesFan
December 30th, 2012
11:05 am
Wait a minute….you’re holding DeJesus accountable for playing on HORRIBLE teams over his career?
Maholm must have sukked before we traded for him last year… he’d always played on horrible teams
Lew
December 30th, 2012
11:06 am
Holding him accountable? No, but shouldn’t it be considered as a factor in how he might perform when the chips are down?
Look – I have nothing whatsoever against the Dude – nothing at all. I think he’s a decent, though hardly spectacular player. If we were TRULY in a bind, he might work out pretty well. But I don’t consider us to be in a bind and am totally NOT in favor of doing a deal for the sake of doing a dela and that’s what picking up DeJesus seems to me to be.
If we can’t find someone who would truly be a difference maker – someone who makes us so much stronger that we improve drastically, then I’d just as soon give our in house options a shot at the job – we’re going to have to find out what they can do sooner or later anyway – and DeJesus is exactly the type of player we could get at the deadline if need be.
VaBravesFan
December 30th, 2012
11:08 am
I agree that the platoon could be better, I’m just throwing a player out there who could be a everyday option. Even if DeJesus is bad vs LHP, the guy still produced a overall 350+ OBP. None of our current options could do that if they played everyday. That’s why platoon splits are sometimes meaningless. It’s about the overall numbers.