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northbeach Scott
December 27th, 2012
11:25 am
I am originally from Atlanta (through Ga Tech), but have lived all over and my favorite was San Francisco (hence the northbeach). I currently live in Charlotte, NC (5th state since 2003) and am visiting the in-laws in Tampa (most of our friends and family are here).
My Dad took me to the first Braves game in 1966 (the night Tony Cloninger threw out his arm in 13 innings and Willie Stargell hit a 2 run homer to beat us 3-2). I have seen the worst of the Braves and the best, so I feel very connected. Any you?
northbeach Scott
December 27th, 2012
11:27 am
And you, Lew?
Coach (2012 Fredi's Beisbol Fandango)
December 27th, 2012
11:30 am
Don’t worry folk’s…..we have Luis Durango waiting in the wings, LOL.
Got my new moniker for 2013 all ready to go. Short, sweet and right to the point is what it’ll be
Nowhere man
December 27th, 2012
11:30 am
The Non daily DOB.
What’s the over/under on this being the last blog of the year.
Maybe DOB bought into the Mayans.
Coach (2012 Fredi's Beisbol Fandango)
December 27th, 2012
11:35 am
Don’t know if this is the last blog of the year, but I get the feeling that we won’t see anymore player or roster movement until spring training.
TheOnlyBravesFan
December 27th, 2012
11:37 am
you should buy into some common sense…
Lew
December 27th, 2012
11:39 am
nbs – I’m from Philly, moved to Georgia when I was 17 and lived in Georgia and Florida (Miami, St. Pete for twelve years and Orlando) for well over 30 years and moved to Vermont in 2011 for my Wife’s job – still here.
Unfortunately, I don’t drink, the fireplace hasn’t been used in decades, but a full tank of distilled dinosaurs, so we’re warm – at least as long as the power doesn’t go out – which it rarely does.
brian
December 27th, 2012
11:39 am
keith law does not even pretend to like the Braves though in this day and age of political correctness I will be surprised if those Braves BP caps get approved.
Nowhere man
December 27th, 2012
11:46 am
TOBF, thanks for your support.
TheOnlyBravesFan
December 27th, 2012
11:47 am
I will be surprised if those Braves BP caps get approved.
Damn shame if that happens… PC is running rampant. We can already items with this logo at the Clubhouse store, what’s the big deal of wearing them to BATTING PRACTICE?
George_George
December 27th, 2012
11:48 am
Nowhere man
December 27th, 2012
11:30 am
The Non daily DOB.
What’s the over/under on this being the last blog of the year.
Maybe DOB bought into the Mayans.
*********************************************
Good morning all
I am not upset about number of DOB blogs this time of year, he should rest now. All I want him to do is work in in summer instead of extended vactions. COVER THE GAMES.
TheOnlyBravesFan
December 27th, 2012
11:49 am
Josh McCarroll @jmccarroll21
Braves should have just put an illustration of an umpire calling an infield fly and stuck that on their ST/BP caps
old man
December 27th, 2012
11:55 am
The feedback seems to be more enthusiasm for Prado extension over one for EOF.
Just FYI, when I say “discount,” I don’t mean a hometown discount, I mean a discount over what the player will probably get a year later if he has another year like the last one. So the player is buying “insurance” from the team against the risk of an injury or a bad year which would cause his value to plummet. He has to pay for the insurance by signing for slightly less than the market would bring if he were a free agent today. So it’s not a “hometown” discount. It’s just a deal that might make sense for both sides. I think every player in his last arb year must really fear the possibility of some kind of serious injury. If you are that close to the brass ring, you might want to hedge your bets.
So the group thinks extending Prado, 4 years, 10M/11M/12M/13M, total 46M (2013-2016) would be a decent deal for the club? For Prado?
TheOnlyBravesFan
December 27th, 2012
12:03 pm
I think Prado would prefer 5, and I’d give that to him. Can be talked into 6 guaranteed.
In lieu of giving him ARB next year, I’d give him at least 5, covering his age 29-33 seasons, and a 6th year option.
9, 11, 12, 12, 11, 6th year option 10mil
That’s 5/55 which can turn into 6/65. May need more than that though, based on what was handed out this winter. 5/65-70 more likely
Lew
December 27th, 2012
12:03 pm
Yes – for Prado. Plays whereever they ask and does it well, hits .300, top ten in the NL in hits, one of the best #2 hitters in the league if not in all of baseball and even stole 16 or 17 bases last year. He’d probably change his swing and hit 20 HR’s a year if they asked him to while becoming the number 5 pitcher or catching all the games Mac misses.
brian
December 27th, 2012
12:19 pm
reading through trade rumors, rumor mill, etc. and where Crisp’s name is mentioned the Braves are always mentioned as potential destinations. Seems like every time Crisp may be available the Braves are mentioned. This over many years and teams
Tomahawkin (Suffering Fan)
December 27th, 2012
12:19 pm
Coach (2012 Fredi’s Beisbol Fandango)
“Don’t know if this is the last blog of the year, but I get the feeling that we won’t see anymore player or roster movement until spring training.”
Co-Sign, bet we don’t find our leadoff hitter til S. Training, only 100 more days til the In-game Blogging returns
urban redneck
December 27th, 2012
12:27 pm
braves won the “good luck with that” award for the upton signing on bleacher report. go bravos.
eskippy
December 27th, 2012
12:29 pm
95 days
TheOnlyBravesFan
December 27th, 2012
12:31 pm
good luck with that indeed…. wonder if we’ll get any good from the deal at all!
Okay,maybe a slight exaggeration…
JC Brave
December 27th, 2012
12:32 pm
braves won the “good luck with that” award for the upton signing on bleacher report. go bravos.
Was the article writen by Ruben Amaro? Ha!
Wes Jorga
December 27th, 2012
12:35 pm
I am surprised at the reluctance for teams to sign a free agent because they don’t want to give up a 2nd round draft pick. This seems to be because of the new agreement, yet I am unaware of why it would be different this year.
JC Brave
December 27th, 2012
12:35 pm
TOBF
Kid, I perfectly understand your concerns regarding Upton, I have them too. But seriously, try to be positive; he’s a Brave now and so we should all root for the guy.
Mr Pitts
December 27th, 2012
12:42 pm
“The Non daily DOB.”
Exactly what would he write about? Speculating stuff like we do here that has no basis in fact whatsoever….? I’m OK with a daily mention of Trumbo and lengthy postings that I won’t read .
PDOG
December 27th, 2012
1:03 pm
The Braves need to give Gattis and or Cunnigham every chance to win a spot on the 25 man roster. As for Mejia he is blocked and should be packaged in a trade for Bonafacio if possible.
Also if Tehran and Delgado have a good spring then Mahlom could be traded. I would rather keep the kids and save the salary.
brian
December 27th, 2012
1:05 pm
I also agree that we are likely set with our roster heading into spring training. Oakland may deal crisp, Arizona may deal an OF, and Colorado may have to make a deal to get SP but it does not appear anything is really burning on the hot stove.
I do like the signing of BJ Upton, especially as I have watched the market develop for people like Nick Swisher, Shane Victorino, etc. Upton does still have plenty of work to do to reach his potential but a move to a team like the Braves should help put him in position to reach that potential. Likely hitting between Heyward and Freeman will give him great lineup protection while also providing balance to the middle of our order.
Still need to solve LF/3B (wherever Prado is not playing) but with Reed Johnson, Francisco and gattis there are good options to start with in LF.
Starting pitching is in good shape for years to come, especially when Beachy returns from TJ surgery. I think the 5th starters job is Teheran’s to lose and that the Braves really want Teheran to take the job and run with it. His promising finish to the winter leagues just reminds everyone of his potential. Look for Maholm or Delgado to be traded for either prospects or that LF/leadoff bat that we need.
Bullpen is still one of the best in the bigs
TheOnlyBravesFan
December 27th, 2012
1:06 pm
save salary for what, LM to keep it?
George_George
December 27th, 2012
1:11 pm
” Good luck with that” How true.
TheOnlyBravesFan
December 27th, 2012
1:16 pm
I’m trying to be as positive as I can JC… I already was terribly negative before he was signed, I’m trying to be hopeful.
But if by June1, he’s doing what he usually does…
AdirondackDave
December 27th, 2012
1:40 pm
Lew — If it’s any comfort, it’s stopped snowing here in Utica and I think the clearing is headed northeastward toward you. We have 15″ here now. Our snowplow guy just came and is finishing up… always a relief to be able to get out.
northbeach Scott
December 27th, 2012
1:53 pm
Lew, my 81 year old father-in-law treated me to lunch at La Tropicana in Ybor City. Deliciously simple authentic Cuban sandwiches and garbanzo bean soup. Yum. He is Italian (Sicilian) and he fits right in with the whole Cuban/Spanish/Italian flair that Tampa is known for to most. These guys all try to speak either Spanish or Italian to him (he speaks Italian, well).
Sorry that everyone is having foul weather. It is sunny, breezy and about mid-sixties here in lovely South Tampa. I think I will enjoy one of my Christmas present cigars, from a box of Arturo Fuente Hemingway Robusto’s–sweet. I am headed to the lanai to burn one, gotta move the laptop and power cord.
old man
December 27th, 2012
1:54 pm
Guys I’m watching this spring:
Johnson
Cunningham
Gattis
Francisco
Anyone else I’m missing that is potentially involved in the LF/3B free for all, and is currently under team control?
After every ST game, we are going to have some very active blogs commenting on these guys.
old man
December 27th, 2012
2:09 pm
Remember a couple of weeks ago we were commenting on the weird backwards splits in winter ball? Francisco was hitting lefties better than righties, and Gattis was hitting righties better than lefties, both the opposite of all experience north of the border. Gattis’ splits were extremely reversed.
Now I’m looking at Cunningham. Here are his splits in winter ball:
vs Left .400 .471 .733 1.204
vs Right .215 .320 .277 .597
He’s a switch hitter, so of course he is turning around to hit, but I figure he’s a better hitter from the right side, because he’s killing lefties down there.
Then I looked at his minor league numbers, first for career, then last year:
Career
v L as R .244 .311 .350 .661
v R as L .303 .374 .396 .770
2012
v L as R .267 .296 .392 .688
v R as L .322 .385 .406 .791
Did we ever get the information on Francisco and Gattis’ splits? Is it a translation/language problem?
I guess if they were playing south of the equator, their splits might reverse, right? Like water going down the drain in the opposite direction?
Seriously, what’s the deal with all of these splits being severely backwards in the DR and Venezuela???
JC Brave
December 27th, 2012
2:26 pm
old man
Gattis was also hitting very well against lefties in the minors, and then went on to struggle against them in the Winter League.
northbeach Scott
December 27th, 2012
2:30 pm
@old man, looking forward to seeing Gattis, Francisco, and Cunningham get some ST at bats and playing in the field. I think their performance in ST will go a long way towards determining their immediate future with the Braves. Additionally, some opportunities will likely present themselves from other teams that bear on the decisions.
Plenty of time to evaluate the kids. Wouldn’t it be nice if Teheran or Delgado actually made the case to take the 5th starter job in ST, instead of the Braves taking the best of the worst like they had to do last year. At least the washed up Jurrjens is gone and Hanson can give up as many long balls as he wants in the AL. What a train wreck with Tommy boy pitching in the AL bandboxes. Ouch!
JC Brave
December 27th, 2012
2:32 pm
Although it is the total opposite of what Cunningham is/was doing, it goes to show you that Winter League numbers have to be taken with a grain of salt. They’re aren’t all that reliable.
northbeach Scott
December 27th, 2012
2:35 pm
I will be back in Tampa for the week of 3/16 to catch some Braves ST action. I will try and provide some on the scene perspective to complement DOB’s always astute observations.
So cool having the in-laws in Tampa as it is only an hour drive or so to Dark Star and less than that to Lakeland (Tigers), Tampa (Yankees), Kisseemee (Astros). Nice to not have live through those disgusting summers anymore, either. We just visit between Nov-May, when it really is paradise.
And a Day of Rain
December 27th, 2012
2:59 pm
Lew- I’m in Jamestown, not too far from you.
And a Day of Rain
December 27th, 2012
2:59 pm
Meant that for Dave.
old man
December 27th, 2012
3:14 pm
If this 2012 line for Cunningham really reflects his strength as a LHB:
v R as L .322 .385 .406 .791
it’s entirely possible that if he really progresses this spring, and Francisco disappoints, you could see a Gattis/Cunningham or Johnson/Cunningham platoon, with Prado dedicated to 3B. Cunningham would alternate with Prado or Simmons in the lead off spot. A jump from AA to MLB would not be too odd for a 24 year old.
None of these would be earth-shattering surprises. Based on MiLB/MLB stats, we have two strong LHBs (Francisco and Cunningham) and two strong RHB (Johnson and Gattis).
northbeach Scott
December 27th, 2012
3:17 pm
Godzilla Matsui to retire per Sanspo (Japanese link). He had a great career in Japan and the US
old man
December 27th, 2012
3:29 pm
I thought it would be interesting to compare Gattis’ and Cunningham’s splits last year in AA ball, to see how they would work as a LF platoon:
Here they are against righties, the better line is Cunningham’s:
.231 .306 .455 .761
.322 .385 .406 .791
And this is against lefties, the better line is Gattis’:
.371 .488 .800 1.288
.267 .296 .392 .688
It would be sorta cool to have these two Mississippi Braves come up and take over LF. What a boost of both these guys came in and lit it up.
northbeach Scott
December 27th, 2012
3:38 pm
I would sure be nice not to have either Schafer, nor Constanza as part of any platoon in LF for Atlanta. Let them keep warm in Gwinnett for emergencies. oldman if your scenario works out, then Reed Johnson can be a bench guy, not a platoon guy which should enable him to be most productive.
I think with Janish’s injury and evident slow recovery that Pena will be the reserve middle infielder with Francisco and Meija as the corner/bench heavy bats. Janish will recover in AAA and keep warm until need to fill in for injury or as a part of a trade, later in the season.
And a Day of Rain
December 27th, 2012
3:43 pm
old man- Gattis has only had 40 ABs in Venzuela so his AA numbers are a more reasonable messure of his success vs lefties.
And a Day of Rain
December 27th, 2012
3:45 pm
40 ABs against lefties I mean.
Ward
December 27th, 2012
3:51 pm
Hello everyone! Nothing going on today for news on LF. Cubs might be willing to trade David DeJesus, and it was floated that the Braves have interest. DeJesus was earning some thing around 6 to 7 million, and would fit budget. He had a good solid year, and OBP. It’s possible Wren, could be interested, but it depends on if the Cubs are still willing to trade him? Haven’t read, or heard anything on that recently….
TheOnlyBravesFan
December 27th, 2012
3:55 pm
Even Gwinnett is too good for Constanza and Schafer… get ‘em out!
Cunningham has CF, Rev can practice LF down there, Durango in RF.
Ward
December 27th, 2012
3:59 pm
John S. Has mentioned that they were looking for a player around 6 to 7 million. David DeJesus could fit, but it depends on the Cubs? The Cubs have mentioned his name, but have mentioned. I think Braves will look to sign some one around 6 to 7 million.
TheOnlyBravesFan
December 27th, 2012
4:02 pm
Rotation- Medlen, Minor, Hudson, Maholm, Delgado
Bullpen- Kimbrel, EOF, Walden, JV, Gearrin, Avilan, CMart
Lineup- Simmons, Prado, Heyward, Upton, Freeman, Uggla, Gattis, Laird (then McCann)
Bench- Reed, Mejia, Juan, Pena, Laird
Our reserves in case of injury: Gilmartin, Teheran, Graham, Hale, Jaime; Cunningham, Terdoslavich, Pastornicky, Durango, Pagnozzi
Oh, and those 2 in betweeners (Schafer isn’t really AAAA LOL)… Georgie or crack-head Schaffeure. Both hopefully those 2 are LAST resorts.
That’s what I’m expecting (and hoping in terms of the reserves)
Ward
December 27th, 2012
4:03 pm
Also, don’t think the Braves will go higher than 8.5 million if they sign one. Still lot’s of time for a trade, and there always that platoon to go with too.
Lew
December 27th, 2012
4:05 pm
Last year we were supposed to get Marlon Byrd from the Cubs – this year it’s been Soriano and now Dejesus. Problem is, they didn’t help the Cubs all that much.
Ward
December 27th, 2012
4:05 pm
TOBF – Don’t count Schafer out! He’s still young, and Maybe Gattis could have a possive influence on the Kid? There’s always second chances….
northbeach Scott
December 27th, 2012
4:07 pm
I think Durango is no longer in the Brave’s organization. I believe he signed with KC Royals as a minor league free agent.
Wes Jorga
December 27th, 2012
4:09 pm
I looked at hitting and fielding stats and don’t see Dejesus adding much for his price. am I missing something?
Ward
December 27th, 2012
4:09 pm
All, I’m optimistic about this coming season. We could be like Boston signing people who are over 32 this year, and look older.
TheOnlyBravesFan
December 27th, 2012
4:11 pm
Schafer got a 2nd chance, and a 3rd… couldn’t hit in Houston for crying out loud! Useless without the HGH. A 66 OPS+, .606 OPS, and terrible obp/slg after nearly 900 PAs? Puh lease. Let the dude go.
I checked, yes Durango is gone. Thanks for the headup Scott. Well, then, lett Gartrell or Parraz handle RF. Or Georgie, whatever. But those Schafer and Constanza won’t be getting any better, so don’t have them block Rev and Cunningham. That’s all I ask.
Ward
December 27th, 2012
4:12 pm
Dejesus, is a good solid lead off hitter. I’ll,talk later tonight, and all be cool. Peace my friends, and “Go!!!!!Braves!!!!!”
VaBravesFan
December 27th, 2012
4:13 pm
I wouldn’t be against a Coco Crisp or David DeJesus addition, we’d take on there full salary and likely only give up a lower rated prospect or 2. But both of these players are not sure fire upgrades, more so they are considered “you kinda know what your gonna get” players. There a safe bet, while our in-house options seem to have a higher upside but also could bomb and fail.
Coach (2012 Fredi's Beisbol Fandango)
December 27th, 2012
4:14 pm
Durango in KC, we are doomed
VaBravesFan
December 27th, 2012
4:14 pm
DeJesus is a guy we can count on to play 140+ games in LF and provide a 350 OBP
northbeach Scott
December 27th, 2012
4:15 pm
Give it up on those stinking ex-Cubs. No to DeJesus, no to Soriano. How stupid would the Braves be to pay the douche DeJesus ~11M over 2 years? Wasted money and prospects to get him. Let’s not block any kids with a mediocre ballplayer.
No chance Schafer is on the 25-man at the end of spring training, unless there is some injury to his betters. I have to believe we will see some combination of Gattis, Cunningham in LF and failing before we see Biff or Schafer.
Wren has bet his job on Upton, I do not think he would do so on DeJesus. Really lame trade suggestions. The ship has sailed, kids, not going to see anything unti ST and maybe not any activity until McCann returns.
Coach (2012 Fredi's Beisbol Fandango)
December 27th, 2012
4:16 pm
So I have to wonder……do our Braves really think that Simmons can thrive in the lead off role?
TheOnlyBravesFan
December 27th, 2012
4:17 pm
.211/.297/.294/.591 in 2012 for Schafer, .214/.306/.343/.649 in Houston.
Pa. the. tic.
May1 to season end; .186/.277/.270/.547
June1 to season end: .154/.262/.228/.490
No second chance needed, the dude sukks. Nothing at all looks good here. Nothing
old man
December 27th, 2012
4:19 pm
I think Simmons can hit lead off.
True dat.
TheOnlyBravesFan
December 27th, 2012
4:19 pm
No chance Schafer is on the 25-man at the end of spring training
I wish there would be no sight of him on the Gwinnett roster either… he’s always a phone call and car ride away. And that’s too damn close.
TheOnlyBravesFan
December 27th, 2012
4:20 pm
I think it’s possible that Simmons can lead off effectively, but I’d rather he hit 8. He’s got a small sample size here in the majors.
But I think the leadoff spot is his to lose as far as the Braves are concerned. They want to keep Prado 2.
Coach (2012 Fredi's Beisbol Fandango)
December 27th, 2012
4:20 pm
Frank Wren…..
p.s. go scrape Chone Figgins out of the trash heap, give the guy an invite to spring training. All he can do is surprise or fail.
VaBravesFan
December 27th, 2012
4:26 pm
I wouldn’t call those trade suggestions “lame”. At some point we have to move on from Justin Upton, Josh Willingham, and Dexter Fowler. Start looking at other veterans who would be much cheaper to obtain and asking yourself if they are better than Francisco/Johnson/Gattis. But also factoring that atleast with players like David DeJesus and CoCo Crisp you know what your gonna get, while our in-house options are wild cards.
I’m for giving our in-house options the job, but if we can land someone for a some prospect(s) we don’t care for too much it wouldn’t be bad.
northbeach Scott
December 27th, 2012
4:27 pm
Coach, I think KC is doomed, or at least Dayton has played you bet your job with his acquisitions. KC will be better in 2013, but will continue to be the scumbags of the AL Central, which is really saying something. Someone linked a terrific article on KC a couple of blogs ago that suggested that Dayton made the moves to save his job in the short term, but had further squandered the long term (i.e. sustainable) future by dealing Will Myers.
Instead, KC has guaranteed that Jeff Francoeur, the overall worst everyday player in MLB in 2012, will be their RF in 2013. I do not care what intangibles he may bring to the clubhouse or how good his arm is, he is a horrible RF and the worst hitting RF in baseball.
My KC friends are counting the days until the Dayton Moore reign of embarrassment ends for the Royals.
And a Day of Rain
December 27th, 2012
4:28 pm
Who is Rev?
Andy
December 27th, 2012
4:28 pm
Great albums list, DOB! Love your blog!
However, couldn’t help but notice 2 glaring omissions, in my opinion : Of Monsters and Men’s “My Head is an Animal,” and the latest by Trampled by Turtles “Stars and Satellites.” These bands are right up your alley sir! Check them out if you haven’t already
Wes Jorga
December 27th, 2012
4:29 pm
Simmons had 20 walks, 20 Ks, 10 SBs, 2 CS, .374 OBP in 174 Abs in Mississippi, mostly batting 2nd behind Cunningham, but leading off some. 2011 in Lynchburg he led the league in hitting and stole 26 bases.
Coach (2012 Fredi's Beisbol Fandango)
December 27th, 2012
4:30 pm
Yep, KC will never climb out of the cellar until they fix their starting pitching.
VaBravesFan
December 27th, 2012
4:33 pm
The Royals just did trade for James Shields, who would easily be our #1 starter.
Coach (2012 Fredi's Beisbol Fandango)
December 27th, 2012
4:33 pm
Jeff Francoeur…..million dollar talent, ten cent head. Truly sad.
TheOnlyBravesFan
December 27th, 2012
4:33 pm
Pastornicky
TheOnlyBravesFan
December 27th, 2012
4:36 pm
Royals added Shields, a strong #2… have Santana as well. They should be better than last year, near 83 wins I think. If they can add another arm at the deadline, and everyone else performs as expected, they should at least compete for a wild card spot. I don’t really have that much of a problem with the move to get Shields.
And don’t forget, Francoeur is his baby… he’s not letting him go while he can still pay him.
VaBravesFan
December 27th, 2012
4:39 pm
I definitely see Simmons becoming a lead off man. Gotta love his contact ability and speed. Add his already MLB best defense and he’s a stud, he’ll earn plenty of Gold Gloves and All Star nods I think.
northbeach Scott
December 27th, 2012
4:45 pm
Every year a few on the blog beat the drum for certain players as if their past numbers can be repeated or that their true cost (salaries, traded prospects, blocking others) has no bearing. Chone Figgins was one a few years ago before he signed as a FA with Seattle (although Coach’s suggestion has some merit as a minor league FA invite to ST), Ryan Freel (he was a gritty ballplayer, god rest his soul), Jeff Keppinger, etc.
The obsession with former Braves (who gives a *h*t, if they played for us) I guess due to an misguided romantic familiarity and players with a Georgia connection (again, who gives a *h*t if they are from GA) is just silly. Who cares where these guys are from. We want to win at a cost that does not destroy the organization ( i.e. Mike Cameron, Dexter Fowler, Justin Upton, JD Drew, Andruw Jone (can’t hit a ball, so I hit my wife)).
northbeach Scott
December 27th, 2012
4:52 pm
Pastornicky=Pastor=Rev, his ticket to the majors is likely via becoming a super-utility player as he is an incompetent SS. If not, he may just be the usual AAAA guy that never gets it.
Keep an eye out on Will Meyer. TB made a terrific deal as Sheilds will be a free agent after 2014 (and 2013, if the Royals do not exercise his option) and most assureadly will depart KC (why would anyone want to play there if they could play somewhere else?). Will Meyer appears to have a chance to be the real deal and for a budget constrained team like Tampa Bay, essentially moving from Upton to Will Meyrer in CF makes a lot of sense.
And a Day of Rain
December 27th, 2012
5:14 pm
thanks TOBF & Scott – before male menopause I would have figured that out.
TheOnlyBravesFan
December 27th, 2012
5:18 pm
Jon Heyman @JonHeymanCBS
Justin Upton back in play for possible trade, but #dbacks owner may need convincing to deal him. http://cbsprt.co/12S8mdy
Geez… they need to make up their mind, this won’t help Justin’s play at all. I hope he is moved.
northbeach Scott
December 27th, 2012
5:23 pm
It is no wonder that Justin has been accused of having an attitude, as Arizona throws him out there like a $2.00 hooker anytime there is fresh meat to be had. I think anyone in Justin Upton’s shoes would rather play someplace, else.
northbeach Scott
December 27th, 2012
5:26 pm
Sorry about using hooker and meat in the same sentence. Also, I guess inflation makes the $2.00 sound a bit low by today’s standard–how about $20.00. Guess I am giving away my age. : – )
And a Day of Rain
December 27th, 2012
5:38 pm
Age is what this blog is all about
brian
December 27th, 2012
5:47 pm
I still think Teheran is going to win the 5th starter job over Delgado. I think the organization will bend over backwards to help him win that job.
If they both pitch well it will make Maholm a luxury for us that a pitching starved team might be willing to pay for come the spring or at the trade deadline especially with Gilmartin in the wings and Beachy due back in July. That would free up even more money for a LF addition to the team if needed. I do think, though, that the Braves like having the balance of 2 lefties in the rotation
TheOnlyBravesFan
December 27th, 2012
5:57 pm
I still think Teheran is going to win the 5th starter job over Delgado. I think the organization will bend over backwards to help him win that job.
Shouldn’t be that way…
Efrim
December 27th, 2012
5:59 pm
Jon Heyman @JonHeymanCBS
Justin Upton back in play for possible trade, but #dbacks owner may need convincing to deal him.
Can’t believe it’s taken this long for them to trade the kid. Just get over it already. They are way too RHH to trade Kubel, imo. And Heyman is right, they are not getting that much for him.
CF Eaton (LH)
2B Hill (RH)
RF Upton (RH)
1B Goldschmidt (RH)
C Montero (Switch)
LF Ross (RH)
3B Chavez (LH)/ Johnson (RH)
SS Gregorius (RH)
Not enough LH power in my opinion and it will be bad for 35-40 games when Montero is out of the lineup. Makes all the sense in the world now for them to trade Upton and get a haul of prospects.
brian
December 27th, 2012
5:59 pm
Justin Upton is one who could potentially fluorish with a change of scenery. Get him a stable situation with plenty of support from the organization and I’d like to see how well he can play. all the trade rumors, leaks of dissatisfaction with play, etc. would be tough for any young player to play through.
If I were Texas and considered dealing Profar though, I would empty the minors for Stanton rather than sending Elvis or Profar for Upton if Arizona is dead set on getting one of those players
brian
December 27th, 2012
6:02 pm
actually agree with Bowden for once – that Texas matches up best for a Stanton trade, though I think it will take one other top prospect or young ML player to get Miami interested. Profar, Perez, and Olt is a great start for a trade package and is something that we cannot match.
TheOnlyBravesFan
December 27th, 2012
6:05 pm
Once Justin is moved, to somewhere that actually wants him, he’ll thrive
Buster Olney @Buster_ESPN
Rick Porcello turns 24 today. http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/p/porceri01.shtml … So yep, he’s got room to learn and grow as a pitcher, wherever he pitches in 2013.
I wish thhat was in Atlanta
BFChris28
December 27th, 2012
6:19 pm
With Didi Gregerious now with D-Backs, I don’t see why Towers wouldn’t accept a deal with Atlanta sans Simmons.
Teheran or Delgado, Ahmed, Gilmartin or Spruill, Cunningham and Salcedo or Juan Francisco would be more than fair for Justin Upton.
VaBravesFan
December 27th, 2012
6:29 pm
It would likely take a 4 or 5 man package to get Justin Upton. And with our prospects we really don’t have the goods in my opinion. Other teams could offer more. But I’d sure as hell try to get him.
VaBravesFan
December 27th, 2012
6:33 pm
I’m waiting for The Walking Dead and Falling Skies to come back, and also the end of Breaking Bad… I’m on Netflix and I think I wanna dive into Sons of Anarchy or Rescue Me. Opinions anyone? Other options include The Killing and Hell on Wheels.
VaBravesFan
December 27th, 2012
6:35 pm
Wonder if Wren was willing to offer both Delgado and Graham for Upton if that could almost get it done?
TheOnlyBravesFan
December 27th, 2012
6:45 pm
This is Frank Wren we’re talking about man. Delgado is probably as far as he wants to go…
cabravesfan
December 27th, 2012
6:49 pm
VaBravesFan-
Sons of Anarchy and Rescue Me are 2 of my absolute favorites- SOA is pretty violent & Rescue Me is…well, not family friendly, but they are, in my opinion, brilliant
VaBravesFan
December 27th, 2012
6:49 pm
Probably true lol… But realize your getting 3 years of control of a MVP caliber player who’s only 25 years old at the price of 39 million… Basically what a BUM (Shane Victorino) just signed for in Free Agency.
brian
December 27th, 2012
6:52 pm
Delgado, Ahmed, Francisco, and bethancourt or a pitching prospect not Teheran or Gilmartin is probably as far as he would go
VaBravesFan
December 27th, 2012
6:52 pm
cab
Cool thanks. I’m pretty sad that Breaking Bad is ending, easily the best show I’ve ever seen in my life.