8:35 pm December 18, 2012, by David O'Brien
December 26th, 20126:05 pm
Mark Feinsand @FeinsandNYDN
BREAKING: Yankees have agreed to terms on minor-league deal with outfielder Matt Diaz. Invite to big-league camp and will compete for spot.
Good for MattE… maybe he still has IT
Always hear about how weak our bench is, yet when we get a hitter like Mejia, all you heaqr is how good everyone wants him to be so we can trade him. GO figure.
December 26th, 20126:08 pm
Agree Zing, that would be nice
December 26th, 20126:15 pm
Ken Rosenthal @Ken_Rosenthal
Matt Diaz to #Yankees on minor-league deal, according to @FeinsandNYDN. Seriously doubt search for RHH OFer ends there.
No way it should… OPS in the 600s for Diaz the last 2 years… yikes ..667, 83 OPS+ since 2010, though injuries did play a role.
Insanely easy guy to root for though, and he is a ‘Nole… best wishes to him.
And a Day of Rain
December 26th, 20126:26 pm
Lew- I figure that Mejis is blocked by Freeman, who is younger, and we should maximize his potential whenever we can. For his sake, I would like him to have a fighting chance to make the bigs asap given his age.
his overall OPS is not really what needs to be looked at with Diaz
December 26th, 20126:28 pm
Ugueth Urbina released from prison today after 5.5 years for attempted murder. Sign that guy up for the pen……
December 26th, 20126:33 pm
Matthew Diaz @diazfoundation
I’m very excited and thankful to be goin to camp with the Yankees! This little boys dream come true!!!!
December 26th, 20126:36 pm
830, 740, 692 OPS against lefties the last 3 years
512, 410, 356 SLG against lefties the last 3 years
err, take the 2nd number in both categories and place it 3rd… then it’s in order
830, 692, 740 OPS against lefties the last 3 years
512, 356, 410 SLG against lefties the last 3 years
December 26th, 20126:38 pm
What the ultimate figure of the payroll becomes, it doesn’t matter.
What matters is putting the best 25 players on the roster that can produce wins.
Like it or not the Braves home grown players that are being considered for next year appear to have as much or more potential than what is currently being discussed in the free agent and trade markets.
Were there players that would have been better that have already signed or been traded? Probably, but trades are tricky things. Giving away talent within the organization for talent that doesn’t appear to be any better than the Braves current internal solutions makes no sense.
Currently Gattis and Mejia are out performing Parra in the Dominican League. Why give up a couple of prospects for Parra when Gattis may just be the real deal or at least a better player than Parra.
I admire FW for not pulling the trigger on trades that would have hurt his minor league depth and getting a player back that may or may not be better than what he already has in the organization.
I believe that FW is holding out for a deal that maximizes the cost / benefit in the Braves favor not the trading teams favor. If that can be done great, if not go with what is currently in the organization.
Meanwhile, extend Prado with some of the available money.
December 26th, 20126:39 pm
Yankees sign Matt Diaz.
December 26th, 20126:45 pm
We have 5 solutions within as of now.
Play Prado at 3B and Gattis in LF Everyday
Play Prado in LF and Francisco at 3B Everyday
Play Prado at 3B/LF and platooning Francisco/Johnson
Play Prado at 3B/LF and platooning Francisco/Gattis
Play Prado at 3B/LF and platooning Francisco/Johnson/Gattis
December 26th, 20126:48 pm
I also hope Diaz does well, but also hope we find a better replacement.
December 26th, 20126:51 pm
jmart – they’re in Venezuela, not the Dominican. Good, b/c by most accounts, the Venezuelan league is much better… so the mashing they’re doing down there might mean a little more.
we already have a better replacement. Johnson is the new Diaz
December 26th, 20126:56 pm
Out of the box idea.
Try to acquire both Dee Gordon and Nick Punto from Dodgers. Put Dee Gordon in LF and Punto can be a bench bat who can back up the all of the infield positions I believe.
Right, nolie. The platoon concept of Johnson/Francisco/Prado is better than anything we could get with Diaz. And the potential of Gattis is a better play, also.
December 26th, 20126:59 pm
why would the Venezuelan league be stronger than the Dominican league when there are so many more DR players in the pros? I have never heard that.
December 26th, 20127:00 pm
The DOB tweet is 8-9 Million for “acquisitions.” According to the King’s English, that would not include raises and arbitrations for people we already have.
Maybe Dave can clarify that this number is for acquisitions, and not merely all that is left unspent.
A backloaded deal for 8-9M in 2013 could bring in quite a decent free agent, if any were left.
There are certainly some trade targets that are set to earn 8-9M next year, or less. Willingham jumps to mind. DOB projected him as the LF with his very first post. Not sure I prefer that, but it would be nice to see Dave get credit for a prediction.
December 26th, 20127:06 pm
Your right Nolie, I was thinking of the Braves need to get a right handed bat in the linup; a different situation. And Johnson is a better replacement than Diaz.
I like most of your evaluations and ideas. You go right on out there and make bold proposals. Even if I disagree with them, they tend to be in the right direction.
On BJ, I share your concern about his numbers. But lighten up a little bit. There are just too many free agent boards that have him listed high. Some have him low, but a lot have him high. And a lot of baseball FO people rate him highly. It’s not all just numbers. You’re on here with some very strong opinions about BJ.
Any chance you’re wrong?
December 26th, 20127:13 pm
Half Empty: I think I got that from a blurb that DOB dropped a while back with some concurrence from a couple of people.
December 26th, 20127:17 pm
Got a MUCH better replacement… a guy who doesn’t have concerns about his health, and can hit .300 (.700+ OPS) against lefties AND righties… plus play all 3 OF positions. I like my 4th OF to have that flexibilty.
OK, thank you Zing. I am still not sure why that would be though
December 26th, 20127:18 pm
Put Dee Gordon in LF
Yuck…. I’d rather throw Rev out there. Or see Francisco start daily or even in that danged platoon.
December 26th, 20127:23 pm
the Dee Gordon idea is ludicrous. Why would we trade anybody for him?
December 26th, 20127:26 pm
Maybe… but nolie “agrees”… and he’s never wrong! I might get to be right here… maybe…
December 26th, 20127:27 pm
Don’t forget that Wren made the Javier Vasquez deal in very early January several years back (for Melky +).
Deals can be made at any time, folks.
However, unless Wren gets a LF leadoff possibility that is QUALITY, I love the thought of rolling Gattis out there if he has a solid spring. That would give Frank $8-9 mil of funny-money to add at the deadline (which equates to something close to a $16+ million player). Or it means he fills several needs with that money at the deadline.
December 26th, 20127:35 pm
Okay we need to hold a fund raiser for the Yankees they signed Matt Diaz to a minor league contract; they must be broke
December 26th, 20127:46 pm
That would give Frank $8-9 mil of funny-money to add at the deadline (which equates to something close to a $16+ million player).
If we acquire a player who costs 16mil for the season, meaning that Frank had to give up a very good prospect or two, I’ll be very very surprised.
December 26th, 20127:51 pm
meaning that Frank had to give up a very good prospect or two, I’ll be very very surprised. @ TOBF
December 26th, 20127:52 pm
read the top post, #34… very good read imo
December 26th, 20127:56 pm
not someone I usually agree with
December 26th, 20128:12 pm
Tommy P — Like your thinking there… Give the left field job to Gattis and in June-July that 8-9M is doubled in value for a major upgrade where needed. Or as somebody mentioned before, use it for the first of several extensions within the next year… Prado, Heyward, Meds, Kimbrel, maybe Freeman. I say maybe Freeman because I want to see him hit a little closer to .300 this year and make sure he’s healthy. Mac is the most expendable in my mind, unless he give a very significant hometown discount… which he might.
December 26th, 20128:25 pm
Come on ST – we need relief from visions of wonders waiting just over the horizon: Fowler, Upton, Stanton, De Aza, Trout, Williams, DiMaggio, Cobb, Ruth, et al. Seven weeks and we can talk about th team we have and what is actually real. Meanwhile, go Redskins, Wolverines and Braves!
December 26th, 20128:27 pm
Oh the weather outside is frightful
But the blog is so delightful
And since I’ve no place to go
Let It Snow! Let It Snow! Let It Snow!
December 26th, 20128:30 pm
Evening Mr. O’Hawke… send some snow down south, will ya? only got a few flurries here just north of Atlanta…
December 26th, 20128:33 pm
Oh, if I can figure out how to do it, I’ll give you ALL of it.
December 26th, 20129:32 pm
Hope all Braves fans had a good Christmas…I would also hope that we are all pulling for President H.W. Bush, regarding his recent illness and hospitalization.
December 26th, 20129:51 pm
One post in the last 1:17 – very impressive…
December 26th, 201210:09 pm
The defending champ on Jeopardy! worked as a Carny – maybe there’s hope for jeffrey d…
December 26th, 201210:13 pm
Justin Upton makes $9.5mm in 2013. I am just saying. :0
Gattis has logged a handful of innings in the DR winter league games. I think people’s hopes that he is a viable OF are overblown due to his HR totals.
For ATL the best move would be to make him a decent catcher bc Bethancourt cannot hit a beach ball with a boat oar. If Gattis had promise as a catcher -good lord- what a package.
I would have Gattis catch his butt off, hire a personal super catching mentor and then start him in ATL or AAA.
The OF seems like a bad idea bc he is built like a Mack truck and I cannot picture him chasing down many balls not hit directly to him.
December 26th, 201210:29 pm
Offer O’Flaherty to them for Dee Gordon. If they say no then maybe add one more decent piece, but that’s it.
December 26th, 201210:34 pm
Brian, are you “high” on that mountain? No way on EOF for Dee Gordon.
December 26th, 201210:38 pm
Offer O’Flaherty to them for Dee Gordon.
Somehow that doesn’t sound too good.
December 26th, 201210:39 pm
I heard an interview by Adam Dunn from several years ago where he stated: he did not like or enjoy playing baseball, he was not a fan and did not follow the game, and he knew practically nothing of it’s history or the players and teams that preceded him. He only played it for the money and because he “could”. Maybe that explains his huge strikeout total…he doesn’t really care what he does just as long as he gets paid.
I’ve never heard a follow-up or an explanation as to if that is how he really feels, but he seems well liked by his teammates, so I don’t know who the “real” Adam Dunn is.
December 26th, 201210:52 pm
I’m pretty sure ChattTownBrian got Dee Gordon mixed up with Andre Ethier. Honest mistake, happens all the time.
December 26th, 201210:55 pm
stairway to Heaven on Kennedy….. awards rocked
December 26th, 201211:04 pm
Gattis (or other minor leaguer) + money to sign extensions > what’s left on the market
what’s left on the market > Gattis and Liberty cutting the budget and letting our stars walk.
December 26th, 201211:19 pm
I hope everyone has had a great Christmas and holiday season. I have been reading and posting occasionally. Very occasionally for four or five years. Peace to all, in no specific order, Nolie, Lew, VJ and CAB, Steves from from Nova Scotia to the Baty area, Mitchie, Doggsbrekky, Ward(Flash in the Pants), Ken, Haggard, Murph, and Rich an everyone. Peace to you all.
December 26th, 201211:25 pm
Thanks, brian d! Right back at you!
December 26th, 201211:27 pm
And peace to you and yours as well brian d.
December 26th, 201211:34 pm
SOUTH OF THE BORDER
SS RAMIRO PENA [.300 BA] 0-2, 1 BB, 1 SO.
1B RUBEN GOTAY [.292 BA] 2-4, 1 RBI 
No games scheduled
December 26th, 201211:40 pm
well itd be nice to see martin signed to an extension
December 26th, 201211:43 pm
brian_d: Thanks and Merry Christmas to you and yours.
December 27th, 201212:13 am
I hope you meant “Offer a O’Flaherty autographed baseball to them for Dee Gordon”
December 27th, 201212:18 am
December 27th, 201212:53 am
I was kidding by the way. No way I’d do that trade and neither would our GM I’m positive.
December 27th, 20121:44 am
Maybe Dave can clarify that this number is for acquisitions, and not merely all that is left unspent. — old man
That number takes into account all projected arb raises. It’s approximate total (we think) of what’s left to spend.
December 27th, 20126:07 am
Dee Gordon isn’t worth giving anyone up for…. not even the hated Constanza and Schafer.
Hell, I wouldn’t take him if it were for free… he’s just another Constanza.
December 27th, 20126:20 am
Jays GM at the time, JP Ricciardi
If J.P. Ricciardi is not alone in his assessment, Adam Dunn might be in for a rude surprise in free agency this fall. Dunn has hit 40 home runs four years running, the only major leaguer to do so.
Ricciardi, the Blue Jays’ general manager, has a Wednesday night radio show on Toronto’s the Fan 590. The power-starved Jays are in last place in the AL East, and a caller asked Ricciardi on Wednesday why he had said he would not be interested in trading for Dunn. Keep in mind that the Dodgers’ Ned Colletti and the Angels’ Tony Reagins hear the same suggestion all the time, and not unjustifiably.
Instead of treading lightly, as most general managers do when asked about a player on another club, Ricciardi challenged the caller.
Ricciardi: “What do you know about Adam Dunn?”
Caller: “He’s a great hitter. He’s a power hitter. He’s a …”
Ricciardi, cutting him off: “He’s a lifetime .230-.240 hitter that strikes out a ton and hits home runs.”
Caller: “Yes, he hits home runs, which none of the Toronto Blue Jays are doing.”
Ricciardi: “Do you know the guy doesn’t really like baseball that much? Do you know the guy doesn’t have a passion to play the game that much? . . . I don’t think you’d be very happy if we brought Adam Dunn here. I think you’d be one of the guys calling me on Wednesday night complaining about all the deficiencies the guy has. We’ve done our homework on guys like Adam Dunn, and there’s a reason why we don’t want Adam Dunn.”
December 27th, 20126:21 am
that’s from 2008 btw…
Enquiring Minds Want To Know
December 27th, 20126:36 am
December 27th, 20126:45 am
Weird. All day yesterday my posts were in “awaiting moderation” limbo. Now I’m free. Anyone else experience this?
December 27th, 20126:55 am
EOF for Dee Gordon? Wow! Maybe Alex Gordon
The answer for LF/leadoff is either David DeJesus or Alejandro De Aza
December 27th, 20127:03 am
Don’t know how many are aware of interleague changes. With Houston moving to AL, all teams will play 20 interleague games scattered thru the full year. Most Braves games are against AL Central this year.
KC. At Atl Apr 16&17
Atl At Det Apr 26-28
Minn At Atl May 20-22
Atl At Tor May 27&28
Tor At Atl May 29&30
Atl At KC June 25&26
Atl At CWS July 19-21
Cle At Atl Aug 27-29
Makes having a DH more important than years past.
December 27th, 20127:06 am
2 interleague games have been added… sure they’re spread out more, but it’s just 2 more games than in years past. Not a big deal. Just means Mac or maybe Gattis gets some “free” ABs.
December 27th, 20127:07 am
not me, enquiring…
December 27th, 20127:22 am
TOBF, correct it’s only two more games, but last year we played all AL East teams and lost ten of the games. AL Central does not have the same caliber of play.
December 27th, 20128:12 am
AL Central does not have the same caliber of play.
then the DH should be less of an issue…
December 27th, 20128:21 am
Just looking at what we might be able to do on the extension front.
The two obvious guys you would consider are Prado and EOF. EOF is mentioned far more often in trade scenarios, but he would be an even more valuable trade piece if we had economical longer term control.
I’m estimating Prado’s 2013 arb at 7.0M, and EOF’s at 4.0M. So, if you get Prado to sign a 10/11/12/13 (46M) contract, you have only spent 3M of the 8-9M 2013 money reported by DOB (10 – 7 = 3).
With EOF, you offer a 5/6/7/7 (25M) contract. You’ve only spent another million of 2013 money, which leaves you 4-5M of 2013 money for some kind of mid-year acquisition. That may be a pure rental. Someone making 8-10M in 2013, and we pick up the second half–someone who maybe is not on the radar screen right now, but because an injury for us makes an unexpected position critical, and/or the player is in the middle of a “career” year out of proportion to his current salary.
I’m assuming you can make a pre-emptive offer to supersede the last arb year. In other words, you can sign a guy to a long term deal any time you want to.
I know Prado and EOF would get more than this if they were on the FA market right now. But they would get a discount if they were able to accelerate their pay (more money now) and eliminate the risk of a 2013 injury, or just a bad 2013 season. (I interpreted DOB’s comment to mean that the 8-9M “takes into account,” i.e. does not include, the estimated 2013 arb obligations.)
Now, tell me how nutty my numbers are.
December 27th, 20128:23 am
But they would *give* a discount
December 27th, 20128:25 am
Some guys go in the tank after getting a contract.
I’m guessing Prado is not one of those guys.
December 27th, 20128:36 am
Well, I’ve taken my shots at a few of the crazt trade ideas this off-season.
ALEX GORDON was the man I wanted, and that didn’t happen. Let’s see what we got with B.J. UPTON. I didn’t want him particularly because of comments by others i.ve met from down tidewater way, but I’ll trust WREN and the scouts on this one. After all they sent a christmas card
December 27th, 20128:42 am
Prado has been the Braves MVP over the last 2 to 3 years IMO. I think he has 2, maybe 3, more years in him like he has had the past 3 for us. After that, with his speed and build, I expect him to start his decline. The fact that he isn’t a power hitter or a speedy player will make his decline more abrupt when his skills start demenishing. Love Prado though. One of the best over all ball players in the league.
December 27th, 20129:04 am
With EOF, you offer a 5/6/7/7 (25M) contract.
Holy hell no… we can’t afford to give that kinda deal to a reliever… and 4 years is too much. We got Avilan behind him, JV for another 2 years or so, and some good lefties in the minors that should be able to transition into a reliever.
EOF will get a deal like that I’m sure, look at what Affeldt got. But no way in hell should the Braves offer that.
December 27th, 20129:09 am
Numbers aren’t too nutty though… don’t see why EOF would give a discount, it’s time for him to cash in big as a reliever. Relievers are volatile, he’s gotta get it while he can. As for Prado, I don’t see him giving a discount unless he’s the sole 3B… why give a discount to be a yo-yo? He’s worth 13-15mil on the FA market as a 3B, maybe we could extend him at 10-12mil now, but he might only accept if he’s solely a 3B. If he’s going to be switching positions, don’t sign the longterm contract, try to cash out in FA at the 3B position… he won’t make as much as he could if he played 3B exclusively this season, but he’d still make more than he can as a LF.
I can’t see Frank paying for a rental… he just doesn’t do it. Especially not 1 who’s making 10+mil for the season, meaning he’d actually have to give up a good prospect.
December 27th, 20129:50 am
don’t see why EOF would give a discount, it’s time for him to cash in big as a reliever. Relievers are volatile, he’s gotta get it while he can.
Agree. Besides, there’s this myth of the “hometown discount” that always emerges on the blog. it’s the exception, not the rule, by far.
As for Prado, I don’t see him giving a discount unless he’s the sole 3B… why give a discount to be a yo-yo?
Prado isn’t going to give a discount, period – whether he plays 3B or the OF.
December 27th, 201210:07 am
Some Braves took discounts in the past when we were real contenders. Thats not the case right now so discounts aren’t going to happen.
December 27th, 201210:13 am
The Braves have always been able to find and develop cheap useful bullpen arms. There is no chance the Braves offer Oflaherty that kind of money or years. Avilan may be his replacement as soon as next year. Of course Avilan wont put up those type numbers that EOF has, but its doubtful that he will continue to be this successful. Bullpen guys breakdown eventually, look at Venters.
December 27th, 201210:18 am
That would be insane to offer that.
December 27th, 201210:20 am
Day of Rain – That’s all fine and well – it would be nice for all players to be able to maximize their potential, but my point was how do you have a strong bench if you trade all the good players on your bench for “prospects” like some seem to believe we should.
Honestly? I’d just as soon keep Mejia and have a strong bench and ”
go for it now” like we keep hearing we should and then – after six years at the MLB level- Mejia, or any other bench player can file for free agency and maximize their butts off.
Tomahawkin (Suffering Fan)
December 27th, 201210:31 am
“Wanna Raise Some Hell?”
December 27th, 201210:32 am
@Ark Transplant…I had to drive through that Blizzard in NE Arkansas, yesterday, took me No Bueno!
December 27th, 201210:33 am
Took me 10 hours to get back to Grayson from NE Arkansas…UGHHHH
December 27th, 201210:34 am
Tomahawkin, I had to fight it Christmas day to get back home. It took me 2 hours just to go 35 miles at one point and was beginning to think I may have made the wrong decision to try to make it home. Thinkfully the roads and weather began to let up around Clarksville.
December 27th, 201210:35 am
Wow. Totally offensive. “@jerepicc: @keithlaw Braves new BP caps. Cant imagine how that gets green-lighted in 2012. http://30fram.es/RTXrPp “
He hates us
Does anyone read and/or buy them, If so I need opinions on them, they are due out in 2 weeks…
I buy the Athlon Sports Baseball Annuals and have since 1997 more of the fact that they have expanded coverage on season stats as well as players in the farm and they do coverage of every teams performance during the last 5 years. Too bad its the last one to come out, its release date is usually the week after The Stuper Bowl
December 27th, 201210:45 am
I was in Jonesboro and Snowed in Tuesday Night. I couldn’t even Hit up “The Boom Boom Room!” My X-Mas trip Sucked ASS!
December 27th, 201210:49 am
Sweet cap. I’m buying one for sure.
December 27th, 201210:53 am
Lew- I’m fine with that. I guess Mejia would probably rather spend his time on an Atlanta bench than on a AAA roster. Pay more too.
December 27th, 201211:08 am
me too Bayou… screw Law
December 27th, 201211:13 am
Day of Rain – Likely he’d be much happier pinch hitting for the Barves than to remain in Gwinnett.
As to the EOF extension – I’m one of his biggest supporters, but 5-7 years extension? No way – that’s nuts. Give him this year and MAYBE two more (preferably this year and next). BY then Avilan will be ready to fill his role and some of the kids on the Farm will be ready to step into bullpen roles. I’d uch rather extend Kimbrel for a few more years – buy out arb and a couple years of FA. That would be pretty safe and save some bucks and still leave him lots of room for a Mega FA contract.
December 27th, 201211:14 am
I think the weeks between Christmas and the start of Spring Training are the “Dog Days” for fans. Mindless trade and free agent signings are proposed, because someone else’s garbage is better than the kids in our system. I hope the players are smart enough not to read this dribble.
I am sure Wren is aware of his options and is leveraging time in his negotiations. We may or may not make more deals of significance before ST, as we need to get the kids into action and see what we have.
December 27th, 201211:16 am
It’s snowing pretty hard here right now – we’ve got close to afoot of snow already. They plowed our driveway about two hours ago and there’s already another 3-4 inches on it. Can barely see the trees a half acre away, much less the Green Mountains in the distance. We’ll post some FB pictures later.
December 27th, 201211:19 am
northbeach scott – At least we no longer hear suggestions to sign Rocco Baldelli.
what Northbeach are you from? Miami?
December 27th, 201211:20 am
It was chilly in Tampa this morning at the in-laws at about 45 degrees. Sunny and a high of around 60, but chilly by local standards with the humidity. Stay warm Lew, hope you and yours have plenty of warm alcholic beverages and a fire.
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