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Lew
December 20th, 2012
9:46 am
Keep the supplemental pick. Go with Gattis and Francisco. We keep hearing about replacing Bourn, but from the beginning of July through the end of the season, he hit .234, .340, .328, – Really not all that impressive and they aren’t going to move Upton to LF.
Rick C
December 20th, 2012
9:51 am
“Bourn is willing to agree to a one-year deal between $7 and $10 million”
No point in even reading past that line.
ncscoots
December 20th, 2012
9:54 am
Statistics cannot fully predict any particular year a player can have, only what they might have in the light of past performance.
Baseball is about probabilities and likelihoods, and some folks here tend to forget that, Gary. I like to remind them, sometimes.
Arkansas Transplant
December 20th, 2012
9:58 am
Interesting how much has gone on in trades and FA signings but not a lot of news coming out of the Bourn camp.
ncscoots
December 20th, 2012
9:58 am
If the Braves are willing to lose that draft pick in the compensation round and Bourn is willing to agree to a one-year deal between $7 and $10 million,
This can’t be correct. Losing a draft pick for re-signing your own free agent player would make the union go pitchfork-and-torches.
TheOnlyBravesFan
December 20th, 2012
10:01 am
We’re not losing a draft pick, just wouldn’t pick up the supplemental pick. We’ve already lost OUR pick…
Murph
December 20th, 2012
10:03 am
This Bourn stuff this morning is funny. I needed funny after I woke up to find that the cold front that blew through last night took down my fence. So freaking aggravating.
Jeff R
December 20th, 2012
10:04 am
From what I [DOB] gather, the Braves would be fairly comfortable going into the season with Martin Prado splitting time with Reed Johnson in left field and splitting time with Francisco at third base, and saving the extra funds for a big in-season trade or two as needs arise.
Actually, not a bad approach, if circumstances dictate.
CB
December 20th, 2012
10:06 am
Remind me to never read Capitol Avenue again,never been the same since Peter left.
Arkansas Transplant
December 20th, 2012
10:06 am
Lucky you… I was expecting a lot of damage myself.. sounded like the roof was getting blown off. I expected to see my trees laying on the ground.
Mr Pitts
December 20th, 2012
10:07 am
We should get Trumbo because I like the last name.
I’m a 55-year old white guy. I guess it’s time to replace Joe Bonamassa-Live at Royal Albert Hall wth the masterpiece Killer Mike. Right.
Turtle man
December 20th, 2012
10:08 am
If the Braves don’t add another bat and they go into 2013 with a platoon how can anyone say this team will be anywhere close to the 2012 team. Lets say that Upton replacing Bourne is an even swap which I’m not sure it is we are replacing a hall of famer with a platoon of Francisco and Johnson???? And let’s not forget losing the best backup catcher in the majors for who???? What a joke so much for not shopping at Walmart.
Murph
December 20th, 2012
10:11 am
AT, did you guys just get wind or anything else with the storm? I heard there were tornado warnings east of TX last night and into this morning.
RC
December 20th, 2012
10:11 am
“Bourn is willing to agree to a one-year deal between $7 and $10 million”
No point in even reading past that line.
Totally agree. He turned down one year, $13.3 million, but now is going to sign for less than $10 because “he made close to $7 million last year”?
He made close to $7 million last year because he had to go through arbitration and hadn’t hit free agency. Arbitration artificially keeps player salaries lower than they would be on the open market. Had he been a free agent last year, he would have made close to twice that amount on an annual salary (maybe more).
There may be a scenario in which Bourn would return to Atlanta in 2013. But if such a scenario exists (which I doubt), it involves either a LOT of deferred money, or the Braves moving some salary to free up more money to pay Bourn. $10 million doesn’t come close to getting it done.
nc82
December 20th, 2012
10:17 am
Seeing how Morales went to Seattle any way we can trade for Smoak and flip him into a Left-fielder? I mean hes a switch hitter with tremendous power and hes young and also a some what of a local be growing up in Goose Creek SC.
Lew
December 20th, 2012
10:18 am
You aren’t replacing a HOF performance from the HOFer. He hasn’t put up a HOF performance since 2008. You’re replacing a team icon who will be in the HOF in five years and who had not been all he was for quite some time. And as for replacing him – we replaced him for fifty games last year.
Murph
December 20th, 2012
10:18 am
Bourn isn’t signing for much less than what BJ signed for. Makes no sense for him to do so, especially on a short-term deal where his age isn’t really a factor.
I can see him signing for less on a long-term deal due to the fact that his legs won’t be what they are now in 5 years… but the Braves wouldn’t do that.
Zero chance he comes back to Atlanta. On par with the Braves trading for Stanton. Ain’t gonna happen.
kenhotlanta
December 20th, 2012
10:19 am
Disgusted: You miss the whole point of enjoying music and that is finding the good songs that were not hits or never got radio play. I have 1000’s of albums going back to the 50’s and before, and many of them are by artists most have never heard of or were not hits. And many of those are among the best songs and artists in my collection, but they weren’t stars or hits…and the cool thing is YOU know it was a great song, album, or artist before anyone else does.
Go to You Tube and listen to “Stone Cold Sober” by Crawler from 1977 or ‘78, it should have been a massive top 40 and FM hit, it has everything you want in a 70’s Classic Rock song…but for some unknown reason, is didn’t make it and the band broke up because they knew they had a killer song, and couldn’t make it a hit.
It’s the exact same principle as drafting and trading for baseball players. some will be stars and some will be bumbs, ie: Hayward and Schafer. Except a great song will always be a great song, you just have to find it, and thats the fun of it all. And don’t depend on a radio person to tell you what music you are supposed to like…they are influenced by all kinds of pressure from all sides to only pick certain songs. They have a lot in common with a baseball team front office and look how many draft choices make the show? Not too many and not too many of those that do are really good…same with picking hit songs.
A good rule is if you hear a song or singer you like, you will prolly like other songs by that same singer, so check them out.
And that concludes today’s sermon, which in all likelihood will be my last. I plan to enjoy they rest of my last day on earth and I hope you do too.
Lew
December 20th, 2012
10:22 am
ken – Crawler? Saw them at the Fox opening for Kansas on the Point of KNow Return tour. They rocked.
cornjolio
December 20th, 2012
10:24 am
“Want to improve this team is trade A Dan Uggla to the Cubs For Alfonso Soriano. Put Martin back at 2b.” – joebrave
That would be music to my ears !
Midnight Rambler
December 20th, 2012
10:25 am
Lorenzo Cain in LF would be nice and affordable.
Jeff R
December 20th, 2012
10:25 am
If the Braves don’t add another bat and they go into 2013 with a platoon how can anyone say this team will be anywhere close to the 2012 team.
Gee, I guess I’ll have to raise my hand and say: “I think the Braves will play on par with 2012.”
But call me crazy.
Murph
December 20th, 2012
10:25 am
Justin Smoak: .217/.290/.364/.654
No thanks.
Arkansas Transplant
December 20th, 2012
10:25 am
Murph, we were under a tornado warning but I haven’t heard if there were any..besides the 40 to 60 mph gusts we had some pretty heavy down pours and a lot of thunder and lightning.
Turtle man
December 20th, 2012
10:26 am
I completely agree with your assessment on Chipper he has been holding on for several years but he had a very productive season in 2012 and I really doubt your platoon will match the production the Braves got from Chipper last season.
Turtle man
December 20th, 2012
10:26 am
I completely agree with your assessment on Chipper he has been holding on for several years but he had a very productive season in 2012 and I really doubt your platoon will match the production the Braves got from Chipper last season.
Turtle man
December 20th, 2012
10:26 am
I completely agree with your assessment on Chipper he has been holding on for several years but he had a very productive season in 2012 and I really doubt your platoon will match the production the Braves got from Chipper last season.
melissa gibbs
December 20th, 2012
10:26 am
What horrible taste! Are you in your second childhood?
melissa gibbs
December 20th, 2012
10:26 am
What horrible taste! Are you in your second childhood?
Murph
December 20th, 2012
10:27 am
The Cubs have a gold glove 2B in Darwin Barney… they wouldn’t want Dan Uggla.
Arkansas Transplant
December 20th, 2012
10:28 am
Yeah, Bourn isn’t signing a 1-yr contract and it wouldn’t be in Atlanta’s best interest to offer him a multi year contract.
kenhotlanta
December 20th, 2012
10:29 am
Lew, Do you remember the song “Stone Cold Sober”? It’s amazing how good that song sounds today and it’s a shame it wasn’t a huge hit when it was released.
adam
December 20th, 2012
10:33 am
Uggla is going nowhere and agree with Ark. Transplant. Bourn is long gone.
adam
December 20th, 2012
10:34 am
I really think the platoon of Francisco and Reed Johnson makes the most sense considering the progress it seems Fran has made. If it doesn’t workout then Wren can call up Gattis or make a trade.
Arkansas Transplant
December 20th, 2012
10:34 am
Murph, we’ve currently got 30 mph sustained winds. Lots of power outages.
TennesseePaul
December 20th, 2012
10:36 am
You think he’s the same player he was in 2008, or the guy he’s been for four straight years?
Scoots, you talking about BJ Upton?
Real Talk
December 20th, 2012
10:37 am
BTW, I don’t hate anyone here. I do tend to point out inconsistencies, failures of logic, and plain damn lies from posters, occasionally.
Funny that is the same thing I do:} Again, are you on the facebook thing?
Lew
December 20th, 2012
10:37 am
ken – Not really. I just remember seeing them that one time and enjoying their performance, thinking I had never heard of them before and then never really heard of them again until you posted. I just have a memory for who I saw, where I saw them and what the concert lineup was.
progboy
December 20th, 2012
10:39 am
Krann………………………………Let it Out
Ange……………………………….Emile Jacoby
PFM……………………………….Per Amico
DAP - Lefties Unite!!!
December 20th, 2012
10:42 am
DOB so where would you put him [eithier], I asked, when you already have Heyward, Freeman and McCann batting somewhere from 2nd to 6th?
Dave, i think we were talking past each other yesterday. i wouldnt put eithier anywhere, because we arent getting him. i never suggested getting him, or thought it would be a good idea. what i said is that we didnt have to bunch our lefties in the middle of the order. no reason to bunch freeman, heyward and mccann together, 3-5. upton and uggla dont have to bat in the bottom of the order.
Hillbilly
December 20th, 2012
10:43 am
Murph, we’ve currently got 30 mph sustained winds. Lots of power outages
Its sunny in South Arkansas, but that cold wind is rough. I’ve got another tree-top broken out and laying in my front yard. Third one in the past 4 months dating back to Tropical Storm Isaac.
Midnight Rambler
December 20th, 2012
10:43 am
Did I read Gattis was hitting .279 in the winter league ?
That translates into .220 in the major leagues.
202dawg
December 20th, 2012
10:44 am
DOB, this ‘car cd changer’ sounds fascinating… Tell me more!
Turtle man
December 20th, 2012
10:44 am
Lets don’t put to much into Francisco winter league stats he has always had good winter league numbers. DOB even said its the equivalent of AA or AAA.
TheOnlyBravesFan
December 20th, 2012
10:45 am
You think he’s the same player he was in 2008, or the guy he’s been for four straight years?
Scoots, you talking about BJ Upton?
Since 2007, BABIPs of .393, .344, .310, .304, .298, .294
Lew
December 20th, 2012
10:45 am
PFM is still recording? That’s got to be close to 40 years now.
FACT
December 20th, 2012
10:47 am
The following quote came from a Mets fan in support of Dale Murphy being in The Hall of Fame:
let him in
10:46 pm Dec 19, 2012
I am a life long Mets fan and dislike everything about the Braves. But Dale Murphy is a Hall of Famer. Excuses about careers cut short are a joke. How many HOF’s are in there after a 10- 15 year career. Lets mention how great of a person the man is. Look at all the people with suspect character that have been let in. So vote a great player and more importantly a great man in.
‘Nuff said.
DAP
December 20th, 2012
10:49 am
jfp do realize how freeman, upton, mccann followed by uggla would cog the basepaths? A slow runner behind a fast runner could work,
i dont think constructing a lineup fast to slow is the right way to do it. gonna have to have fast guys behind slow guys somewhere.
nolie why would you put Upton with his crappy OBP at second ahead of Uggla who actually has a much higher one.
youre just looking at 2012. upton and uggla have pretty similar OBP for thier careers. i think they are the same type of hitters, and can be interchangeable in this lineup, honestly.
Zing
December 20th, 2012
10:52 am
First, again, I think going with a plan of Francisco/Prado/Johnson to cover 3B and LF with Gattis lurking is completely workable, even intriguing in the sense that we get the chance to see how Francisco will do with a lot more ABs (and possibly Gattis at the majors level as well). ESPECIALLY given what’s available to the Braves in trade and at the high cost we keep hearing and the lack of a good FA fit.
Second, unless we have more than one significant injury to our starting rotation, the Braves are going to be in contention right down to the wire, and I expect them to earn the 1st WC again (finishing second to the Nationals). I just don’t think the collection of aging spare parts the Phillies are putting together is going to get it done over the long haul.
kenhotlanta
December 20th, 2012
10:53 am
Lew, I don’t usually post songs here, but this one is for you. And with the world ending tomorrow, what can they do to me?
Crawler: Stone Cold Sober;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GcDyNyEijDc&feature=share&list=PL7012B64352980FFE
Arkansas Transplant
December 20th, 2012
10:53 am
Hillbilly, yeah it’s pretty rough right now up here in the NW. I was surprised to see my Bradfords still standing, already lost half of each one this year as well. Just hoping my roof stays together.. it’s really blowing, just never stops.
Zing
December 20th, 2012
10:53 am
It is, however, a shame that we’re going to still have the absurdity of a one-game playoff. Dumbest move by Selig since giving the winner of the All-Star game home field advantage in the WS.
TheOnlyBravesFan
December 20th, 2012
10:54 am
youre just looking at 2012. upton and uggla have pretty similar OBP for thier careers.
Yes, except that the Upton who took walks in 07-08 is gone… since 2009, Upton has a .316, Uggla a .345…
Lemke's Knuckler
December 20th, 2012
11:00 am
Lorenzo Cain in LF would be nice and affordable.
I bet the Royals think so too, except in CF. Doubt very much they trade him.
TennesseePaul
December 20th, 2012
11:00 am
I’m eager to see Gattis. I hope he does well. But there is this ghost of Scott Thorman lurking around the edges of all my hopes. Pretty sure Gattis will rise above it.
David O'Brien
December 20th, 2012
11:01 am
DOB, this ‘car cd changer’ sounds fascinating… Tell me more! — 202dawg
Fascinating, huh? Since it appears you might need a primer on the subject, I googled “car CD changer” for you and the long list of entries that came up included this one on how to choose a car CD changer that fits your needs. Enjoy:
http://www.crutchfield.com/S-M3LxgJ4rdqc/learn/learningcenter/car/changers.html
Lew
December 20th, 2012
11:03 am
ken – Thanks, but I have no functioning sound card in my computer.
David O'Brien
December 20th, 2012
11:04 am
DOB – Mark Knopfler? — Couch Tater
Thanks for reminder. That “Privateering” double-disc is the second CD I meant to have on list and forgot (other was an alt-country CD by band called Sons of Bills). I’ll add to honorable mentions. It’s a real mellow disc, but really grows on you with repeated listens.
David O'Brien
December 20th, 2012
11:13 am
I’m eager to see Gattis. I hope he does well. But there is this ghost of Scott Thorman lurking around the edges of all my hopes. — TennPaul
If it’ll help ease your concerns, look up Thorman’s minor league numbers in the last year or two before his first major league stint. His OPS was more than 100 points lower than Gattis has posted past couple of years, and home runs were far lower.
AdirondackDave
December 20th, 2012
11:13 am
Gattis — “.279 translates to .220 in mlb…” Hey fella, that’s just way to simplistic. Guy was out of baseball for 4 years. Since return, he has pounded the ball everywhere he goes. Good grief, now that he’s at the door, let’s give the guy the chance that he’s proven he deserves.
Lemke's Knuckler
December 20th, 2012
11:13 am
But there is this ghost of Scott Thorman lurking around the edges of all my hopes
I know minor league stats don’t necessarily translate to the big leagues, but I still can’t help going bug-eyed looking at Gattis’ statline (2011 & 2012 combined)
162 games, 98 runs, 192 hits, 44 doubles, 6 triples, 40 homers, 138 rbi, 56 walks, 96 k’s, .315 avg, .388 obp, .605 slg, .990 ops.
Although he is only 4/10 in stolen base attempts. Not sure we can have that kind of reckless baserunning in this lineup.
TennesseePaul
December 20th, 2012
11:14 am
DOB, Did you read the paper? The headlines are all about tomorrow
http://tinyurl.com/c9m3mt2
Hillbilly
December 20th, 2012
11:14 am
DOB,
A song popped up on Pandora the other day called “If I Were You” by Chris Knight and I really liked it, and now I see you’ve got another one of his albums in your honorable mentions. If you’re picking one of his albums as a starter to try and hook somebody with, which one are you picking? Help is appreciated.
ncgary
December 20th, 2012
11:15 am
now i hope noone takes this wrong
cAuse im a chipper fan from way back
but it sure looked like he got a lot of
batting practice type pitches last year on
those story book nights
TennesseePaul
December 20th, 2012
11:18 am
If it’ll help ease your concerns, look up Thorman’s minor league numbers
I have been. I do that to steady the nerves with regular basis. Evan has done what he has done in fewer PA, fewer seasons, etc. Scott took forever to hit the majors, which was a mark against him. It is that mark many point to when utilizing age in a discussion of Gattis. But, even still, I can’t yet shake the ghost off. He’s faint, and only Gattis mashing will completely vanquish the ghost.
I think it is largely born out of the Braves need for a LF, looking in the off-season for just about anything, while having a minor league option and potentially heading into the season with it.
RC
December 20th, 2012
11:19 am
Although he is only 4/10 in stolen base attempts. Not sure we can have that kind of reckless baserunning in this lineup.
I’m convinced that all 6 of those occurred on hit and runs where the batter missed the sign. And 2 of the 4 successful trys. El Oso Blanco don’t make mistakes like that.
Murph
December 20th, 2012
11:21 am
Now I’ve got that REM song stuck in my head… but I only know a few words of it. Thanks TP.
It’s the end of the world as we know it, it’s the end of the world as we know it, it’s the end of the world as we know it… and I feel fine… 6 o’clock, tv hour… ummmmm… la la la la la la.
rico43
December 20th, 2012
11:28 am
DOB:
It was a good year musically for we old war-horses, too (I’ve joined the 50s demographic). Enjoyable, and in many cases, shockingly listenable CDs by Rush, Van Halen, Soundgarden, Kiss, Joe Walsh, Matchbox Twenty (How they’d crack this list), Offspring … we used all of these as bump music on our afternoon radio show just to saw we were only station in town playing them. But hideous downers from Heart and Jeff Lynne. (Guitar Player mag rated Van Halen/Rush 1-2).
You’ve already caught yourself on the Mark Knopfler. It was one great CD spread over two.
David O'Brien
December 20th, 2012
11:31 am
DOB,
A song popped up on Pandora the other day called “If I Were You” by Chris Knight and I really liked it, and now I see you’ve got another one of his albums in your honorable mentions. If you’re picking one of his albums as a starter to try and hook somebody with, which one are you picking? Help is appreciated. — Hillbilly
Hillbilly, I only became aware of him in the past year, too. Then went back and bought some of his earlier stuff, which frankly is a little better, a little more country and raw. Start with his self-titled debut from ‘98, which you can get cheap on Amazon. That or the album Heart of Stone. Both are great.
Enquiring Minds Want To Know
December 20th, 2012
11:32 am
You know how sometimes you wake up in the morning and sticky problems you’ve been noodling over for weeks are suddenly clear? It’s one of those mornings for me.
1. There will be no more “premium” players signed or traded for this winter. Wren judged value, and then made his offers. BJ’s the only deal that worked out for him, and that’s the way it is.
2. There will be no platoon with Prado rotating between LF and 3B. Spring training will feature a competition between Gattis and Francisco for a starting job. If Gattis wins, Prado plays 3B and Juan goes to the bench. If Juan wins, then Prado plays LF and Gattis stays in the minors (for now).
3. The other featured competition will be between Delgado and Teheran. One stays, and the other goes down. At mid-year one will be traded for a more established (dare I say “premium”) starting pitcher from some team looking to shed salary. That’s where some of the money will go.
4. Schafer will make the team, but will never be considered for a starting job. He is insurance against injury to the outfield starters. Say what you want about his hitting or his personality, the dude can play defense. Pinch-run, also.
5. Uggla is going nowhere. In fact, he will have a monster year and make many of you look foolish.
6. Simmons will be given every opportunity to show he is a number 1 or 2 hitter, but it’s probably not going to happen for him this year. Don’t be surprised if he his no. 8. Prado leads off and Upton or Heyward bats no.2.
Did I miss anything?
rico43
December 20th, 2012
11:33 am
ncgary
Don’t doubt it. Probably a by-product of the non-pennant race for so many teams. The legion of guys who like Chipper is not exaggerated.
Tomas
December 20th, 2012
11:34 am
For a leadoff hitter I like Will Venable, Padres need offense every one of their hitters are leadoff types with the exception of Headley, Alonso, and Quentin. They really don’t have quality pitching, and well if they don’t get that, they’ll never be anything other than a 4th or 3rd place team in a tough AL West.
Anyways Will Venable had a solid year 264/335/429 plus 24 steals playing most of his games at Pecto park.
Look at his home road splits.
Home: 239/301/340 (641 OPS) career (675 OPS)
Away: 286/365/509 (865 OPS) career (799 OPS)
vs ATL pitching by the way 293/376/547 (923 OPS) 8 for 8 SB
I’d be happy with this lineup:
LF Will Venable
3B Martin Prado
RF Jason Heyward
CF BJ Upton
1B Freddy Freeman
2B Dan Uggla
C Brian McCann
SS Andrealton Simmons
Pitcher
George_George
December 20th, 2012
11:34 am
Lew
December 20th, 2012
9:46 am
Keep the supplemental pick. Go with Gattis and Francisco. We keep hearing about replacing Bourn, but from the beginning of July through the end of the season, he hit .234, .340, .328, – Really not all that impressive and they aren’t going to move Upton to LF
***********************************************************************
Good morning all
Yup, AGREE
Hillbilly
December 20th, 2012
11:34 am
Start with his self-titled debut from ‘98, which you can get cheap on Amazon.
Will do. Thanks.
Efrim
December 20th, 2012
11:36 am
Still wish we can get another LF. I’d rather go with Gattis than a platoon situation of Johnson and Francisco. Or Francisco playing practically every day.
Disgusted
December 20th, 2012
11:38 am
kenhotlanta– @ 10:19 — Thanks for that post it was interesting.
Truth be told is that what I have been posting about music is more tounge in cheek, I really do not view mucis that way. Just stirring up a little stuff that is all.
I have said it before and will say it again, I am often half serious about what I post. I say lots of stuff in jest & hope you and everyone else around here have happy holidays.
I wanna Boo Santa Claus cause he is a BUMB LOL
Lew
December 20th, 2012
11:38 am
Enquiring MInds – Yeah, maybe, but what happens if both Gattis AND FRancisco both have good Spring Trainings? Platoon with Martin.
Disgusted
December 20th, 2012
11:41 am
I am in a good mood — have a little time off for the holidays and having a little fun.
I dig Xmas and New Yrs. Time to do nuthin — can’t be better than that. Life is good. Real good.
Vote 4 Gattis but Reed and Francisco might be better than some think.
I just wonder where Bourn will end up now. It might be that he gets only a one yr deal and take his chances next yr.
Lew
December 20th, 2012
11:41 am
If the Padres need offense and we do, too, then why would we want Venable? If he doesn’t provide enough offense for them, then how would it be enough for us?
Efrim
December 20th, 2012
11:41 am
Samardzija, Garza, Jackson, Baker, Feldman, Villanueva and Wood as rotation options for the Cubbies. Not too bad.
CB
December 20th, 2012
11:42 am
Polanco to Marlins
Disgusted
December 20th, 2012
11:43 am
Enquiring MInds – Yeah, maybe, but what happens if both Gattis AND FRancisco both have good Spring Trainings? Platoon with Martin.
@Lew — that would be a nice problem. I don;t know what to do about that — there might be a chance to make a trade if the opportunity presents itself but what needs would we have?
Braves solid almost everywhre.
Depth is never a bad thing. Some one who deserves to be on the big roster might start the yr in AAA.
Brava
December 20th, 2012
11:43 am
clarkspencer @clarkspencer
#marlins closing in 1-year, $2.75 million deal with 3B Placido Polanco http://tinyurl.com/d3qr3j8
Real Talk
December 20th, 2012
11:44 am
Efrim I think Wood retired last season
Brava
December 20th, 2012
11:44 am
Don Miller @bbnewssource
Brewers Reach Agreement With Tom Gorzelanny On Two-Year Deal http://bit.ly/ZUo9cO #Brewers #MLB
Disgusted
December 20th, 2012
11:44 am
Dem Marlins are scary and dangerous loading up with Polanco and Juan Pierre, heh????
Not……..LOL.
Enquiring Minds Want To Know
December 20th, 2012
11:45 am
Lew, that would be an embarrassment of riches. If that were to happen then Gattis goes down for seasoning. Juan’s out of options, no? Gattis plays in AAA until someone gets hurt. Someone always does.
Brava
December 20th, 2012
11:45 am
Brett Taylor @BleacherNation
In case you missed the morning news: the Cubs have (probably) signed Carlos Villanueva, 2-yrs, $10M
Disgusted
December 20th, 2012
11:46 am
We are better off with what we have now than pursuing Will Venable. Seriously, I am not kidding on this.
Real Talk
December 20th, 2012
11:46 am
Venable? That came out of nowhere, but I say negative on that one!!
TheOnlyBravesFan
December 20th, 2012
11:46 am
Polanco to Marlins…
Jayson Stark @jaysonst
Biggest signing of the winter: #Reds re-sign ageless catcher @Corky_Miller to a minor-league deal, with an invite to big-league festivities
Tomas
December 20th, 2012
11:46 am
Lew they don’t need another leadoff type is what I meant, but we do, and they need pitching more than offense for the first time in years.
Lew
December 20th, 2012
11:47 am
Disgusted – Atrade if they both did well? Why would we need to make a trade in that scenario? Seems we’d already have what we need if they both were that good in ST.
TheOnlyBravesFan
December 20th, 2012
11:47 am
Them Fish are scary, yo… great protection for Stanton in that lineup!
CB
December 20th, 2012
11:48 am
Real Talk, Travis Wood
Efrim
December 20th, 2012
11:49 am
They have had interest in Venable before, so that could be a fit. He’s a Super 2 guy, so this will be his 2nd year of arbitration and he is controlled through 2015.
Career .253/.324/.415, 106 OPS+ hitter. 86 for 104 in SB’s over five seasons – 83% success rate.
Career .276/.344/.455 away from Petco Park. .261/.330/.441 vs. RHP’s. .216/.295/.287 vs. LHP’s.
Brava
December 20th, 2012
11:49 am
Jayson Stark @jaysonst
Biggest signing of the winter: #Reds re-sign ageless catcher @Corky_Miller to a minor-league deal, with an invite to big-league festivities
Brava
December 20th, 2012
11:51 am
Jayson Stark @jaysonst
What are the odds Corky catches longer than Jamie Moyer pitched? Once went 1 for 55 in big lgs over 3 years (’04-06) – & he’s still playing!
Efrim
December 20th, 2012
11:52 am
Venable isn’t a bad option. Not sure I’d have him in there vs. LHP, but he’d be a nice addition. Scheduled to make $2.5M through arbitration for 2013.
Real Talk
December 20th, 2012
11:52 am
CB yeah thats right I forget about him and I kind of liked him in Cincy, Its interesting IMO how Theo is starting his rebuilding of the Cubs…not spending money like I thought he would!