2:34 pm December 13, 2012, by Carroll Rogers
December 13th, 20122:38 pm
December 13th, 20122:45 pm
I guess he’s a younger version of Jack Wilson. Exciting….
December 13th, 20122:47 pm
Will this team play at Turner Stadium or Coolray Field?
December 13th, 20122:49 pm
Another little league player tat Wren likesw. WORTHLESS WORTHLESS !!!
December 13th, 20122:52 pm
From all that I am reading Frankie Wren is not in on any deals. Little tired of the Braves poor mouthing. Ticket prices don’t seem to be going down. Spent some money and put a first class team on the field.
December 13th, 20122:57 pm
With hamilton signing with Angels here they may deal Trumbo for pitching.
December 13th, 20122:59 pm
How many bench players does one team need? Getting tired of hearing the Braves have signed another back up player, sign someone who really can help the team. If you don’t want to, then sell the team to someone who actually gives a poo.
December 13th, 20123:00 pm
I hope there is a means to the end with this signing, like getting pieces to trade to Jays for Bonificio.
December 13th, 20123:01 pm
With Hinske gone, what’s the plan for a backup first baseman?
December 13th, 20123:03 pm
maybe they’re gonna trade pastornicky? i think they oughta turn pastornicky into a utility player. he’s a good smart athlete, can play a lot of positions and is a pretty good hitter. with speed too.
December 13th, 20123:05 pm
Sign Swisher – he can backup 1B when he’s not in the OF.
December 13th, 20123:08 pm
I hope he was cheap. It looks like Francisco and Pastornicky could be part of a package and they need some depth.
Sweet, Old Buck
December 13th, 20123:10 pm
I like what Wren is doing. He made his splash with Upton, now he is letting the market show itself. With Hamilton’s signing by the Angels, other teams will need to look at their rosters and consider a counter. No telling who will become available. The Rangers are now on the clock. Watch for things to pop. Wren is in a good position. Shoring up the bench makes sense in the meantime.
December 13th, 20123:13 pm
I guess you think Wren is smart. NO DEAL IS HAPPENING. Live with it. He will stand pat. Doesn’t need anymore pitching and that is all he wants, Give him a cookie for the worthless signing. A comb for his hair and send him HOME
December 13th, 20123:15 pm
Joe Casey they won 94 games!!!
The only thing Hinske could back up, is the buffet line at Golden Corral.
December 13th, 20123:16 pm
Didn’t DOB, for the past month, kept saying we needed TWO bench players. With the signing of Reed Johnson that took our bench needs to ONE because 2 – 1 = 1. Now, with this signing, we don’t need anymore bench players because 2 – 2 = 0. Come on guys! Stop complaining every darn post.
@archie, man Golden Carrol sounds sooo good right now!
December 13th, 20123:18 pm
Since Josh Hamilton signed with the Angels, we should definitely be trying to trade for Mark Trumbo. Stick him in at third base and keep Prado out in left.
December 13th, 20123:21 pm
Angel Eyes – Go home honey, you’re drunk.
I think that Wren is loading up for a big and interesting trade deal
December 13th, 20123:22 pm
We’d be stacked for years with Trumbo at third.
Evil Chuck Dowdle
December 13th, 20123:24 pm
Looks like Bourne will sign with the Rangers now.
December 13th, 20123:26 pm
Samurai, the Angels said Trumbo is not available.
December 13th, 20123:30 pm
@ John Boy I am not your HONEY. Iam an alcoholic. Not Drunk. Just trying to get you fools to realize that your GM is going to do NOTHING!!!
Nice pick up. Seems to me it fits a hole nicely. Pastor has no glove – just learning 2nd – does Janish even play anywhere but short?
I love the way DOB put this – “defensive-minded Pena”..
anywho…a guy with a glove that plays all three spots – worth the try. He had 7 triples in 2007 minors.
December 13th, 20123:33 pm
If not Trumbo then maybe Peter Bourjos to play left and lead off?
I love the way Carroll put this – “defensive-minded Pena”..
December 13th, 20123:34 pm
I love people who think they know more about the business dealings in baseball then Wren. News flash, you don’t! Oh you have your right to express your opinion but remember, Opinions are like a**holes and some of you are just that, a**holes.
December 13th, 20123:38 pm
The bottom line is the Braves with Michael Bourne gone will again be a slow team with no table setter at the top of the order. I so long for the Ted Turner days, when under Ted’s leadership we may have found a few dud’s in the Braves lineup well past their prime with washed up careers. But when Turner took a back seat and let real baseball minds prevail, money never was an object, and we could sign a speedy left fielder, and not deal with any light hitter, who barely knows which way first base is must less, be talented enough to touch all four bases!
hey, Janish has played a little 2B and 3B (and even pitched in two games!). He has not logged that many games or innings at those positions though.
December 13th, 20123:40 pm
I do know more. HE knows NOTHING. TRies to make team better. MADE IT WORSE. Braves not even in playoffs. Hows that for improvement?
That puts us over the top, atleast 100 wins next year.
Come on braves with Hamilton signin with the angels we gotta do whatever it takes to get Justin upton and start lockinup our young players prado deserves a contract then Hayward, freemon medlo. Imagine prado Hayward Justin upton mccan bj upton freemon uggla and Simmons
December 13th, 20123:41 pm
We’re loading up – we can do these utility player deals like no one else…..
Ken, BJ has comparable speed to Bourn. Just won’t be at the top of the order.
December 13th, 20123:42 pm
With Hamiltom, Puljos, and Trout. They have instantly became the most feared line up in MLB. Move over Detroit, the Angels are know #1
Oh nice pick up Wren, thx for the last piece of the puzzle.
Now that the remaining dominos are going to tumble. Maybe we can pick an opportunity to sneak in a good deal for a LF or 3rd Baseman.
Next few days will spark some interesting rumors…
December 13th, 20123:47 pm
“…..Pena is hitting .308 with a .430 on-base percentage in 48 games in Mexican Pacific League. He has nine doubles, one triple, five home runs and 15 RBIs. He has only two home runs in the majors……” DOB
To illustrate the difference between the MEXICAN LEAGUE and MLB, he has 5 HR rthis winter in MEXICO, and 2 career HR in four years in the ML’s.
Thanx for the info DAVE.
Angel Eyes – Sorry buttercup, just do us a favor and put the bottle of jack down for a few minutes, go outside and have a smoke, and once you’ve calmed down come on back and we’ll talk some baseball.
Wren knows what he is doing. The Braves WERE in the playoffs this year, we just lost in the wildcard round. I dont know what you were thinking the Bravos were going to do this offseason, but you dont mortgage the future of your club just to appease crazy fans. The braves had what, 96 wins last season. 96 WINS. 99/100 times you win your division with those kind of numbers.
I await your eloquent, intelligent reply.
My prediction —–Big surprise coming out of spring training—–Schafer in left field and leading off.
SNARKY PUPPY to you sir.
December 13th, 20123:48 pm
Yeah but we needed a bench player that can hit!
Dawgdad (The Original)
December 13th, 20123:51 pm
Seems like people are being traded almost daily, people that the Braves could use to plug that outfield abyss. When I hear that Denard Spann went for a prospect, I’m thinking couldn’t we have offered two? The kid from Cincinnati went yesterday, Drew Stubbs, I think it was for ole Choo Choo from Cleveland. Neither of them good enough? Stubbs would have been a great lead off. Choo could play left and hit. Guess I’m just being too critical, Wren always comes through for us, right! Maybe he can sign Manny Ramirez for comeback number 3.
Have you seen them live richbrave? They put on a fantastic show.
December 13th, 20123:52 pm
First of all MR JOHN BOY I am not Female. If you are gay go away. I do not drink. I do not Smoke. I do not do drugs so MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS. I am talking baseball and telling you that your so called GM will do NOTHING!!!!
December 13th, 20123:54 pm
December 13th, 20123:55 pm
We get Peña….after seeing the Hamilton deal go down, I’m not amused…
Dawgdad, you can’t be serious. Stubbs for lead off?
Wren is addicted to dumpsters, can’t get enough of those things, must be the smell that keeps him going back.
December 13th, 20123:57 pm
I have actually only seen STAN GETZ live while in college in 1962.
December 13th, 20124:00 pm
This guy might be better than Pastornicky, but its not what we need.
Don’t expect much the rest of the way. Sky not falling yet — this is still a competitive team.
Too bad we have such cheap ownership.
John Boy – I don’t care of the Braves had a 100 wins, they didn’t win their playoff game. I am tired of just competing. I want the Braves to make some moves to try and win (in the playoffs) now and not just compete or stock up on young players. The way the Braves are structured now, they will not win playoff games.
December 13th, 20124:01 pm
Dont forget that prado can backup at first base.
December 13th, 20124:02 pm
Well if you get the chance richbrave, do it. I had the pleasure of seeing them three times this year because they tour so much.
December 13th, 20124:03 pm
Angel Eyes – My apologies, your manly name on here was so obvious. I dont know what I was thinking.
In order to do nothing, you have to do nothing. Wren did something, so how can he have done nothing? See? Your argument just doesn’t hold water. I ask you, Mr. Angel Eyes (lol), what exactly would Wren have to do to improve our NINTEY SIX win baseball team?
Pitching, Defense, Contact Hitters
December 13th, 20124:05 pm
Patience is a fruit of The Holy Spirit. I have asked GM FW to get’r done right. I have faith that he will. Braves have young, huge, strong, athletic baseball players on roster. Freeman, Heyward, Simmons are 23. Upton is 28. Francisco is 25 soon to be 26. Bethancourt is 2014 starting catcher for sure at 22. Medlen, Minor, Delgado, Teheran, Gilmartin, Graham are starters and future starters under 25. Kimbrel, Walden, O’Flaherty, Venters are foundation of bullpen for years all 26 and under. We have tradeable commodities in McCann, Hudson, Maholm, and Uggla and 2 of them are under 30. 2014 Braves will be 2B Nick Ahmed, 3B Martin Prado, RF Jason Heyward, CF BJ Upton, 1B Fred Freeman, C Bethancourt, LF Some Young, Athletic, Strong, Fast Kid with Power., SS Andrelton Simmons. Pitching will be outstanding Starters and Bullpen. Bench C Laird, IF Janish, IF Pastornicky, IF Mejia, OF Gattis/?. We have a shot at a great 5 year dynasty. Future after that depends on future drafts and development.
December 13th, 20124:06 pm
This signing has NOTHING
December 13th, 20124:07 pm
This signing has NOTHING to do with any potential deal or another signing. It’s another shortstop to add to the mix as backup. To those who have said Frank Wren is not in on any deals, it was yesterday that it was revealed that the Braves made a strong offer for Choo before the Reds and Diamondbacks got in to sweeten the pot. The season doesn’t start tomorrow folks.
December 13th, 20124:10 pm
Ry – The way their structured now they wont win playoff games?? You do realize that MLB requires them to actually play these games, right? If you’re done with your time machine I have some lotto numbers I’d like to get.
Here’s why I think we will win Playoff games, and why we continue to compete with the best:
ALL THE PITCHERS
Plus the Bravos have excellent depth and in house guys that always come up and surprise us, so just chill guys. It’ll be okay.
December 13th, 20124:11 pm
Trumbo sure would be nice. Could backup Freeman at first and play everyday at LF.
December 13th, 20124:12 pm
The Angels sign Hamilton, the Dodgers sign Greinke, the Braves sign Mexican Dude with decent glove but no bat. Sounds about right.
December 13th, 20124:13 pm
GM FW, Once again I want to swing my support to a six man pitching rotation. Our Bullpen is strong enough where Braves do not need a seventh pitcher in pen. Our team would be stronger with six starters to save arms and get six to seven innings from our starters that will be more shutdown mode. Hey, I forgot about Beachy in above message because of his injury. But Beachy is a strong factor in Braves Future. Go Six Man Rotation. I personally Love it.
December 13th, 20124:16 pm
MR John BOY LF after LF has slipped right thru in fingers time after time. No deal. WHY? Because they were somebody that might help him win. Don’t need them because they don’t PITCH. LOSER LOSER AGAIN AND AGAIN.
I like the move.
You guys are a feisty bunch.
The Braves bullpen will be the strongest part of the team Besides Hudson and Prado the rest of the team is unproven. Sure Medlen and Minor had great 2nd halfs of the season and Heyward bounced back. But what if they tank this year. On paper they are the 3rd best team in the division. But hey last offseason they were the 4th best team on paper and we know how that played out. I’d say this team could win 80-90 games but we’ll see.
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Sign Swisher. I agree. He can back up at 1st and play either corner outfield position. We will have to settle for Simmons or Prado to leadoff. Swisher is a gamer. Can hit, catch, and throw and get the dugout pumped up. Just do it Frank!
December 13th, 20124:18 pm
World Series here we come!!!
December 13th, 20124:19 pm
I can’t believe all you people are bashing Frank Wren and saying all those ugly things about him. Those other teams want the Braves young pitchers. Frank knows they will be good one day and he is holding onto them. Today you hate Frank. Next year you will love him.
December 13th, 20124:22 pm
GM FW, Braves could use a Super Star to lead our current star players to The Promised Land of World Series Champions. Just Saying. I remain patient. We are loaded for special times, we just need one Really Special Player to be Our Guy. The Man. The One. Someone who will be a difference maker. It is time. No more average guys like Uggla has become. Braves need A Champion, the fans will feel will be confident to say, Our Champion will Win this Game for Us.
December 13th, 20124:28 pm
Will the Braves ever have another player that can hit over .250?
December 13th, 20124:30 pm
They way I see it, we have Prado, Heyward, Freemand and the pitching staff. Here is why we will not win playoff games (absent a significant signing for LF or 3B)
– Upton is a below avg. offensive player and strike out machine
– McCann will be rehabbing to being the season and may not return to former self next season
– Huge offensive hole at 2B
– Huge offensive hole at 3B
– Huge offensive hole at C (pending McCann proving he can get back to form)
A team can’t have that many question marks offensively and be considered a playoff team (at least one that will compete and go far into the playoffs).
December 13th, 20124:31 pm
Really? All the Armchair GM’s laughing at Wren should realize that the amount of wins under his stead the last 2 seasons has landed the Bravos once on the doorstep (2011) and in the postseason (2012). Quit your bellyaching in December for cryin’ out loud. Spring hasn’t sprung, and alot of the grumpiness regarding the efforts of the Bravos Wren smells like dung!
Pena will start the season as the Braves utility IF while Janish and his glove go to AAA for more rehab. Great pickup for our bench because he can bunt, play defense, and run the bases well…what more do we want from our 25th player??? When your team was first in defense in the NL in 2012, and your rotation finished in the top 4…you had better have someone that can back up Simmons, Uggla, or Prado if they fall to injury without depleting the overall strength of this team…defense & pitching! Good move Frank. Continue the good work as this boards microwave minds explode.
December 13th, 20124:34 pm
Go get Bourjos
December 13th, 20124:39 pm
With the Angels signing Hamilton, the Braves should go and make a trade offer for Trumbo. Only 26 years old…can play left or third…hit 32 HR’s….but does strike out a lot….It might be worth a shot to see what the Angels are wanting….
December 13th, 20124:41 pm
Get Cory hart!
December 13th, 20124:43 pm
Could we get Kendrys Morales or Peter Bourjos from the Angels??? If so, could Morales play 3B or LF?
December 13th, 20124:45 pm
Wren for President, Of dog catchers Assoc.
December 13th, 20124:49 pm
Ted, again they said that Trumbo is not available.
December 13th, 20124:51 pm
Wren now is your chance. Go get Trumbo, I know they said he would not be traded. Offering them Venters or O’Flaherty, Delgado and Francisco.He’s young with power. I don’t know if Bourjos is a fit. He has speed but no bat.
@JHarber Thats too good for him. Let him clean up the dog pen
December 13th, 20124:54 pm
@Bill M You got to be kidding, WREN would NOT give up his precious pitching to get somebody that can hit. WON’t happen
Ted Striker…… Trumbo is not on the market to be traded. Angles have made that clear to all clubs
Sambo 4 Rambo
December 13th, 20124:55 pm
You dicks that sit here and whine are the same typical band wagon riders that we true fans have come accustom too. Sure is cold outside, dont seem like its even close to spring…
December 13th, 20124:59 pm
I would like to see the braves give Grady Sizemore a chance to lead off and play left bc he will b cheap and they may get lucky and get a steal, If not trade for a LF at the break.
Frank Wren, Freddi G -Put any holiday plans on hold until you trade for Mark Trumbo of the Angels
Protect Simmons,Freddy ,Jason,Martin.Kimbrel,Medlin,-everybody else can go for Trumbo- his numbers are great -lots better than the new CF Braves overpaid for,he is 26 plays OF 3B and 1B-
Braves Management get moving or move out
December 13th, 20125:07 pm
Why would you want Trumbo when we have Francisco who will hit more than 32 bombs next year and probably strike out less with his more compact swing.
December 13th, 20125:08 pm
Can AJC make a rule to prevent poster’s projected Braves lineup cards? They take up too much cyber space!
December 13th, 20125:09 pm
It sounds like Wren is not making any other major moves we passed on Ichrio are we still interested in Dexter Fowler he is local guy i knew we were not getting Hamilton heard he was hard guy to deal with so whats next for Braves in getting that LF that we need .
December 13th, 20125:11 pm
“Angel Eyes – My apologies, your manly name on here was so obvious. I dont know what I was thinking.”
Yeah, Angel Eyes doesn’t seem to fit the image of a dumpy, sweaty and hairy 50s+ guy in 15 year-old boxer shorts with Cheese Puffs next to the keyboard.
December 13th, 20125:13 pm
DOB, If my math is correct after our two huge signings of Janis and Pena this week, wouldn’t we still have around 7.5 left to spend?
There is no argument that Pena is an amazing find given he’ll fill in our #4 slot on the depth chart at SS nicely. I assume they are going to teach someone to play 1B to back up Freeman. Maybe Scott Hatteberg is available.
Based on the article earlier last week on AJC it seems that Wren isn’t willing to even consider allowing any more of the Braves pitching to walk and the FA market is getting pretty thin for the budget we have left. Is it possible Wren thinks Jordan “It feels good to be a gangster” Schaffer is the lead off answer they are going to try to sell?
Man I wish Liberty Media would sell this team to an actual owner.
December 13th, 20125:15 pm
Good pitching, good defense will win a lot of games, don’t jump off the ship. Power hitting clubs with no pitching or defense lose in the end. Patience, Patience, and a lil Patience or ask your docs for a script of Nitro.
Wren should go get Bonafacio in a trade. Bonafacio leads-off, plays left but fills-in around the infield when needed. He would be a great addition…Make it happen Wren!
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