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JustSayin
December 11th, 2012
1:17 pm
Lew This was way too easy but hear goes You have never been one key from being right my friend. You are one of my favorites on here so I took it pretty easy on you.
jeffrey d
December 11th, 2012
1:20 pm
I just downloaded an update of the AJC App for my Iphone and you’re not accessible on it at all!!! Your not under “sports” and there is no more “blog” catagory
Yeah that was pretty annoying. The app was never that great, and the new “update” just eliminated the blogs.
Skeezix
December 11th, 2012
1:23 pm
Vote him in! Dave, you have made a strong case here.
Question
December 11th, 2012
1:25 pm
Andruw is going to Japan..
JasonInFL
December 11th, 2012
1:26 pm
I don’t think FW is activley looking for a LF anymore.
Efrim
December 11th, 2012
1:27 pm
I don’t think FW is activley looking for a LF anymore.
What makes you think that?
ncbravesfan90
December 11th, 2012
1:30 pm
“I don’t think FW is activley looking for a LF anymore.”
Let’s sure hope he is. I would hate to start the season with just 2 outfielders and $15 mil left to spend.
Efrim
December 11th, 2012
1:33 pm
Josh Hamilton, Michael Bourn, Nick Swisher, Adam Lariche, Kevin Youkilis, Cody Ross, Stephen Drew, A.J. Pierzynski, Anibal Sanchez, Kyle Lohse, Edwin Jackson, Ryan Dempster, Shaun Marcum and Rafael Soriano still all without a contract. Two weeks until X-mas.
Efrim
December 11th, 2012
1:33 pm
Josh Hamilton, Michael Bourn, Nick Swisher, Adam Laroche, Kevin Youkilis, Cody Ross, Stephen Drew, A.J. Pierzynski, Anibal Sanchez, Kyle Lohse, Edwin Jackson, Ryan Dempster, Shaun Marcum and Rafael Soriano still all without a contract. Two weeks until X-mas.
JasonInFL
December 11th, 2012
1:34 pm
Efrim…because I am a masochist. Nah, I just think he knows who’s available and what the prices are. Unless someone calls him with a lower price or a new player that wasn’t available before, I don’t think he is doing much. I think he will listen still, but don’t think he is makiing a lot of calls.
Wow,, myy kkkeyboardd wants to double aand triple ttype charccters…prettty ccool
Arkansas Transplant
December 11th, 2012
1:36 pm
The scariest thing about moving either Delgado or Teheran would be, you’d be right back to looking to fill a formidable rotation again next year. If we hang on to both, we quite possibly could have a rotation of Medlen, Beachy, Teheran, Minor and Delgado in 2014, all very young and all very affordable.
To me, Maholm is the most expandable pitcher in the rotation given he’s only sign through this season and more than likely won’t be resigned.
Efrim
December 11th, 2012
1:39 pm
I would hate to start the season with just 2 outfielders and $15 mil left to spend.
Jose Constanza/Juan Francisco/Reed Johnson/Evan Gattis in LF.
Par for the course for the Atlanta Braves franchise and that section of the baseball field. Simply incredible if that’s where we land.
Arkansas Transplant
December 11th, 2012
1:44 pm
I vote to sign Young if we don’t get either Upton or Olt which are easily the best options out there available.
Time
December 11th, 2012
1:44 pm
Stong case DOB. Well done, hard to work a PE reference in well in a column about a Murph…yeaaaaaa boooooyyyy
I’ve always believed he should be in. When I was a kid it was widely considered a given that 400 home runs equaled Cooperstown. The steroid era has changed all that to where now 500 isn’t even considered automatic anymore. Obviously on integrity, Murphy belongs in the human HOF. I think the numbers say he’s HOF beyond that. Two short of what was the automatic HR number before steroids skewed the numbers so much that it lessened what Murphy did. Back to back MVP’s and a top player for a whole decade. Then when you add in a unquestioned level of integrity, which is so rare in this day, the Hall should be beating down his door to enshrine him as a example of how to do it right.
TheOnlyBravesFan
December 11th, 2012
1:46 pm
Wait, we don’t have a left fielder??? Do we need one? Well, whatever, throw somebody out there… I dont care…. Braves FO lately sure hope they make LF the #1 priority next winter…
According to Holbrook, though, LF is part of the infield… dont need an outfielder there. The SS can reach everything out there with “ordinary effort”..
ncscoots
December 11th, 2012
1:49 pm
Simply incredible if that’s where we land.
I don’t think we should start grief therapy before the X-rays have come back.
raleighbravefan
December 11th, 2012
1:57 pm
TOBF – “we were promised a premium player”….
“promised” ….err…not exactly. That was clearly the goal…possibly not realistic.
“premium player” depends on your definition. Wren, I’m sure, would say BJ qualifies. Some would say only Hamilton and possibly Bourn actually qualify.
I believe Wren is making his best realistic effort to field a competitive team for 2013. And it’s only Dec 11.
bball fan
December 11th, 2012
2:00 pm
Sorry Murph fans..Great guy, good player.. HOF is not for good players and great guys. Plus, he did have a decent hitter hitting behind him most of the time. Bob Horner could do some damage to a baseball.
BravePack(FreeFan)
December 11th, 2012
2:02 pm
George_George
December 11th, 2012
12:09 pm
BravePack(FreeFan)
December 11th, 2012
11:59 am
Got a tweet from the Braves yesterday saying they just received the Upton #2 player t-shirt at the CNN Braves clubhouse store. Called right away and ordered one to be sent to Illinois so I’ll be one of the 1st to be proudly representing outside of Atlanta. TOBF you want one?
*****************************************************************
I think you might be a sick person to spend money on something like that.
Once the season starts you’ll see it was $ well spent, not only for me but the Braves as well. George George I think you’re the sick one for not even giving the guy a chance before he’s played a game for the Braves. Given the way things are going after the signing, if Wren didn’t get Bossman where would this team be? Schafer in CF Constaza/Francisco platoon…now that’s sickening.
richbrave
December 11th, 2012
2:08 pm
‘Loaf’ GARRETT wants a contract.
richbrave
December 11th, 2012
2:10 pm
Sign YOUNG? MATT’s playing down south with mixed results this winter.
Puma
December 11th, 2012
2:12 pm
amorelle – Just in terms of watching games out of market, I highly recommend the MLB tv package. Its like $120-130 for the whole year of baseballl, not just Braves, although that’s all I ever watched. Its on the computer mind you, but you can also watch it on phone, tablet etc, or plug computer into TV. Quality is pretty good most of the time.
unbelievable
December 11th, 2012
2:12 pm
Let’s sure hope he is. I would hate to start the season with just 2 outfielders and $15 mil left to spend.
DOB said its less than $10m
Arkansas Transplant
December 11th, 2012
2:15 pm
and depending on asking price, Gentry. But I would guess that his asking price is higher than I’d want to pay unless it was to include Olt in the package.
Maybe Gilmartin for Gentry? That would give us a leadoff hitter and a good defensive outfielder.
JC Brave
December 11th, 2012
2:16 pm
*BONIFACIO to the BRAVES*
Just threw up a little.
The sole thought of that guy in a Braves uniform makes me nauseous.
Mike A
December 11th, 2012
2:18 pm
400 HRs was not a guarantee for the Hall…Darrell Evans had 414 and a 55/68 WAR (vs Murph’s 43/47) and he got 1.7% of the vote on his one, lonely year on the ballot. At least Murph has stayed on the ballot for many, many years. The difference being, I guess, is that Evans was a very good player for a long time while Murph was a great player for a short time. But if you want to talk ex-Braves who should be in the Hall, you should probably start with Evans and Joe Torre (as a player) over Murphy.
Dave Kingman hit 442 HRs and didn’t make the Hall. Granted, HRs was the only thing worthwhile Kong did on the diamond, because he was horrible in every other aspect of baseball.
DAP
December 11th, 2012
2:20 pm
AT The scariest thing about moving either Delgado or Teheran would be, you’d be right back to looking to fill a formidable rotation again next year. If we hang on to both, we quite possibly could have a rotation of Medlen, Beachy, Teheran, Minor and Delgado in 2014,
so, it looks like we may have to work on filling in a formidable rotation either way.
JC Brave
December 11th, 2012
2:21 pm
Fans are so used to Wren’s dumpster diving that they’ve accepted players like Bonifacio and think he is the answer for LF.
Yep…
DAP
December 11th, 2012
2:24 pm
Medlen, Beachy, Teheran, Minor and Delgado in 2014,
really…does anyone read that and think “well dang, thats pretty nice. were set!”
TennesseePaul
December 11th, 2012
2:24 pm
It cracks me up that about every 15 times I come to this sight for a break, the blog/braves front page has changed and the performance is still awful. The Cox Media IT must have some heads rolling by now.
ncscoots
December 11th, 2012
2:26 pm
I believe Wren is making his best realistic effort to field a competitive team for 2013. And it’s only Dec 11.
He, in fact, already has a competitive offense. He’s still going to get 20+ dingers hitting in the seven hole, regardless of what happens in LF. Think about it: if Simmons were lethal with the leather and couldn’t hit a lick, nobody here would have a problem with him hitting 8. As it turns out, he actually can hit and might hit near the top of the order, which might leave some LF scrub hitting 8. Not much difference..
What makes Wren drool (and me, too, for that matter) is the idea of finding someone who will allow the team to not only have power at 7, but also a near-.300 hitter to turn the lineup over at 8. Whether that’s Simmons or the LF doesn’t matter. Such an acquisition would change the offense from competitive to potentially one of the two or three best in the league.
Arkansas Transplant
December 11th, 2012
2:27 pm
really…does anyone read that and think “well dang, thats pretty nice. were set!”
I guess the pure pessimist wouldn’t.
Murph
December 11th, 2012
2:30 pm
Medlen, Beachy, Teheran, Minor and Delgado in 2014,
really…does anyone read that and think “well dang, thats pretty nice. were set!”
Hard to say right now. Ask me the same question next December.
That rotation could be pretty amazing, or it could be good for 10 wins a guy. Right now I’d say that they need a big vet in there somewhere to balance out the relative inexperience of the entire group, but….
If Medlen has a 2013 similar to his 2012, if Minor continues on the path he set during the 2nd half, if Delgado can return to the form he showed in 2011, if Teheran can live up to even a little of the hype, if Beachy returns strong… if if if.
ncscoots
December 11th, 2012
2:31 pm
I guess the pure pessimist wouldn’t.
I don’t you have to be a doom-and-gloomer to wonder if that particular rotation might be a touch too inexperienced 1 through 5.
JC Brave
December 11th, 2012
2:33 pm
An acquisition of Bonifacio would be a waste of resources at this point.
At this and ANY other point during ANY offseason or season…
nolie
December 11th, 2012
2:33 pm
no way the Braves sign an idiot like Young
Efrim
December 11th, 2012
2:34 pm
Such an acquisition would change the offense from competitive to potentially one of the two or three best in the league.
And since you have to win your division to avoid Sam Holbrook umping the Coin Flip game, it’s probably a good idea to get your business done now in the winter so that you can win as many regular season games as possible. Using left over money in late July to acquire a mysterious $15-$20 million dollar a year player is probably not a wise move, and very unlikely given the teams history. And if you’re going to overpay, why in the world wouldn’t you do it in December or January for 160 games rather than 50-60?
Arkansas Transplant
December 11th, 2012
2:35 pm
might be a touch too inexperienced 1 through 5.
Something the Rays did quite well for a number of years. The potential is definitely there but can that live up to it?
TheOnlyBravesFan
December 11th, 2012
2:37 pm
Well said Murph, that rotation would be young an inexperienced… lots of ifs though. We should learn alot about Minor and Meds this season though… hopefully good news.
But, if thats our rotation, Im like 90% sure that the Nats rotation will be better than ours. Gonna need an elite offense…
nolie
December 11th, 2012
2:38 pm
Like i have said all along, I’ll believe a good second acquisition when I see it
ncscoots
December 11th, 2012
2:39 pm
And if you’re going to overpay, why in the world wouldn’t you do it in December or January for 160 games rather than 50-60?
I don’t know that it’s a matter of money. The FA supply doesn’t exactly fit the Braves’ demand.
Jerry
December 11th, 2012
2:40 pm
Aw hell, if you are gonna open up the HOF for sportsmanship, integrity, etc., then you might as well vote in the entire Mormon church. The fact still remains that Murphy was good for a few years, so so for a few more, and just bad for a few more. That adds up to not being good enough for the HOF. And if you are gonna keep Bonds and Clemens out for possible PEDs, then you better change the critia yet again. And you cannot tell me that when McGuire, Sosa and Bonds all got huge so quickly that everybody and their mother didn’t know what was going on. Hell, I knew it way back. But they were allowed to play out their careers.
Jerry
December 11th, 2012
2:42 pm
*criteria*
ncscoots
December 11th, 2012
2:42 pm
Like i have said all along, I’ll believe a good second acquisition when I see it
Ahhh, don’t be such a curmudgeon.
Efrim
December 11th, 2012
2:42 pm
I don’t you have to be a doom-and-gloomer to wonder if that particular rotation might be a touch too inexperienced 1 through 5.
Here’s some doom and gloom, scoots….
Starting rotation, middle relief, third base, catcher and left field all in need of filling heading into 2014!!!!
Efrim
December 11th, 2012
2:44 pm
Like i have said all along, I’ll believe a good second acquisition when I see it
Between noles and TenneseePaul, I am grabbing my pitchfork as we speak. Headed straight from CT south on I-95 for Turner Field….
Murph
December 11th, 2012
2:46 pm
Starting rotation, middle relief, third base, catcher and left field all in need of filling heading into 2014!!!!
After the disappointment that has been the 2012 offseason (so far) i think I’m going to sit the next one out. Maybe just sim it on my own on the PS3 and then check at the opening of ST to see who we got in real life.
ncscoots
December 11th, 2012
2:46 pm
Starting rotation, middle relief, third base, catcher and left field all in need of filling heading into 2014!!!!
Nothing to it, Efrim. Piece of cake. Gattis in LF, re-sign McCann, pick up some middle-relief scrub, call Josh Johnson. I’ll let you figure out 3B.
TheOnlyBravesFan
December 11th, 2012
2:51 pm
coulda filled SP this wiinter…. haha
TheOnlyBravesFan
December 11th, 2012
2:51 pm
coulda filled SP this wiinter…. haha
nolie
December 11th, 2012
2:53 pm
ESPN is gonna start a series about the top 100 players of all time, nobody ineligible. Bonds should rank pretty high
Real Talk
December 11th, 2012
2:55 pm
@Efrim well we really dont know that now do we:} lets play this season and see what happens before we get all down on 2014!!! Geesh I wonder how some you people even survive sometimes!!!
TheOnlyBravesFan
December 11th, 2012
2:56 pm
Braves need to get some good left fielder… imagine buying OOTP 14 (or the Show) in April and it has Constanza as the starting LF. Yuck!
raleighbravefan
December 11th, 2012
2:56 pm
Our entire rotation in 2014 may be less $$$$ than what Greinke will make that year.
Pearls Before Swine
December 11th, 2012
2:57 pm
“And since you have to win your division to avoid Sam Holbrook umping the Coin Flip game, it’s probably a good idea to get your business done now in the winter so that you can win as many regular season games as possible. Using left over money in late July to acquire a mysterious $15-$20 million dollar a year player is probably not a wise move, and very unlikely given the teams history. And if you’re going to overpay, why in the world wouldn’t you do it in December or January for 160 games rather than 50-60?”
THERE IS A GOD!
I thought I was the only one who felt this way! It makes me CRAZY to hear every year why it’s wise to sit on 3-5-7 mil in case you need a player at the deadline when common sense says you can get more value and for longer (162 games) going to spring training with a team in tact.
If you get a hand that helps you win games before the deadline, you will be better off than trying to play catch-up after the deadline with someone you over paid for at the deadline.
DAP
December 11th, 2012
2:57 pm
AT Medlen, Beachy, Teheran, Minor and Delgado in 2014, does anyone read that and think “well dang, thats pretty nice. were set!”
I guess the pure pessimist wouldn’t.
i dont, and im a natural optimist. 2 unproven rookies, one recent TJ patient, and 2 other guys who wont have 150 career starts between them.
Lew
December 11th, 2012
2:57 pm
“Gonna need an elite offense.” Or an elite bullpen. Oh wait, we already have one.
ncscoots
December 11th, 2012
2:57 pm
Bonds should rank pretty high
Rating by head size, are they?
nolie
December 11th, 2012
3:01 pm
Barry just had a bump on his head from diving into a wall to save a run. It has finally gone down now……
TheOnlyBravesFan
December 11th, 2012
3:02 pm
“Gonna need an elite offense.” Or an elite bullpen. Oh wait, we already have one.
Yep… bring in the ‘pen in the 3rd… they sure help when the team is down. Like how they helped Minor be an effective pitcher when he had a 5.50 ERA this season.
Bonds should rank pretty high
In what, head enlargement?
Most obvious juicer to me…
2 unproven rookies, one recent TJ patient, and 2 other guys who wont have 150 career starts between them.
That.
TennesseePaul
December 11th, 2012
3:02 pm
And if you’re going to overpay, why in the world wouldn’t you do it in December or January for 160 games rather than 50-60?
And when it costs only cash, not cash and prospects, as a mid-season trade inherently costs.
Lew
December 11th, 2012
3:03 pm
In 2014 we won’t have two unproven rookies – we will have that THIS year and should pretty well know by 2014 what we have in Teheran and Delgado. We will also know what we have in Medlen and MInor and Beachy should be no problem, as he will be back – at least some- this year. In addition, with Hudson (providing he is not extended) and Maholm’s salaries off the books, we will have $15 mil or so we could spend on a veteran pitcher to round out the rotation.
Time to face facts – the Braves have and will pin their future on young pitching and once we find out what we have with the aforementioned, we get to figure out the next group coming up.
nolie
December 11th, 2012
3:03 pm
gotta agree, best to spend the money during the winter when you get 160 games outta it. only cheapskates talk about saving some..oh wait, it is the Braves ain’t it?
Bawlmer Brave
December 11th, 2012
3:03 pm
Gattis headed back to Venezuela tomorrow after PLANNED break from winter ball. Nice to hear the explanation for why his box score has been missing from recent updates. I like the fact that he’s planning to play out the entire season with them. The reps will be great heading in to ST. Thanks for the update on Twitter, DOB.
DAP
December 11th, 2012
3:04 pm
2 unproven rookies,
ok, so delgado wouldnt be a rookie. but still.
it would be nice to have one horse in there, even if he is a #3 type starter. someone you figure will give you 200 good innings.
nolie
December 11th, 2012
3:04 pm
so what? I said that everybody was eligible, juicers and gamblers and beer drinkers.
Lew
December 11th, 2012
3:04 pm
TOBF – Yeah, because we have no one who can go more than two IP, right. You;re a twit.
brian
December 11th, 2012
3:07 pm
Thanks CB
Lew
December 11th, 2012
3:08 pm
Yeah, if we get someone during the winter and save no money, there will be no hue and cry to pick up a trade deadline piece, right?
DAP – I see your point – if they need to get a vet #3 next winter, they’ll have the money.
raleighbravefan
December 11th, 2012
3:09 pm
TOBF – Your snarkiness factor has increased exponentially lately.
TheOnlyBravesFan
December 11th, 2012
3:09 pm
Our entire rotation in 2014 may be less $$$$ than what Greinke will make that year.
And it’ll take two guys to reach his strikeout total…. plus Minor/Gilmartin will throw about 5-7mph less than him.
Just love us some soft-tossers.
Murph
December 11th, 2012
3:09 pm
gamblers and beer drinkers.
Shaun is going to have to say 20 hail marys just to get through the show. Bunch of deviants and adulterers and alcohol imbibers.
Have mercy on ESPN’s soul!
TheOnlyBravesFan
December 11th, 2012
3:14 pm
Rick Porcello may become available if the Tigers re-sign Sanchez…
#3s to choose from next year…. Garza, Haren, Hughes, Maholm, Vasquez. Lincecum may be too expensive (and he needs to rebound), Johnson may get locked up by the Jays… not really a great list to choose from. Wouldn’t give a lot of money to any of them, except maybe Haren.
Lew
December 11th, 2012
3:14 pm
Gamblers and Beer drinkers – ZZ Top song?
Lew
December 11th, 2012
3:15 pm
Or they could just extend Hudson and be done with it.
raleighbravefan
December 11th, 2012
3:15 pm
TOBF – Strike out totals…even velocity…not too important compared to wins. We had 94 of them in 2012 with soft tossers, BTW. No strikeouts or 95+ from the bullpen, of course (roll of eyes).
nolie
December 11th, 2012
3:15 pm
there will be a hue and cry to get someone now and a hue and cry to get someone then, there is ALWAYS some kinda hue and cry here. 160 games gives better odds of a good addition making more of a difference
Rick C
December 11th, 2012
3:15 pm
“And it’ll take two guys to reach his strikeout tota”
Too bad we traded Hanson
TheOnlyBravesFan
December 11th, 2012
3:17 pm
In 2014 we won’t have two unproven rookies – we will have that THIS year and should pretty well know by 2014 what we have in Teheran and Delgado
I think it would only be 1 unproven guy this year, right? Medlen, Minor, Hudson, Maholm, Delgado. I’m betting that as long as the rotation doesn’t implode, the Braves will just add Teheran and Gilmartin/Graham to the rotation for 2014, likely would not add a vet guy. They’ll consider Medlen and Minor the vets. So, at least imo, we probably will have 2 unproven rookies in 2014.
raleighbravefan
December 11th, 2012
3:17 pm
Lew – I expect Huddy for an additional 2 years, barring unexpected injuries.
keyLargo
December 11th, 2012
3:19 pm
Bob Horner over 9 years as a Brave – .278 .339 .508 .847 128 OPS+ 215 HR and 651 RBI
Brian McC over 8 years as a Brave – .279 .351 .475 .826 117 OPS+ 156 HR and 604 RBI
Horner played his entire career slightly overweight and never was in good condition. His Career lasted 10 years. Any comparison to McCann is purely incidental?
Rick C
December 11th, 2012
3:19 pm
TOBF, you’re forgetting that Beachy will be back for all of 2014.
TheOnlyBravesFan
December 11th, 2012
3:19 pm
What’s better,say the unattractive Cody Ross for 160 games, or Choo/Hart (or some other rental, hah, like FW would trade for a rental) for 55… Ross would give more value.
brian
December 11th, 2012
3:19 pm
Non-Braves question…
Can anyone here explain to me why Jeff Bzdelik is still men’s head basketball coach at Wake Forest aside from his ties to the AD?
This article says it all
http://www.collegehoopsdaily.com/riches-to-rags-the-demise-of-wake-forest-basketball/
Murph
December 11th, 2012
3:20 pm
No thanks on Porcello. If we’re looking for guys who struggle against lefties I’m sure we could find someone within the system instead of trading for Porcello.
Seems to be a good example of what happens when a 19 year old kid is rushed to the big leagues.
kenhotlanta
December 11th, 2012
3:20 pm
Lew, I love sorghum syrup down here, is Vermont syrup similar, or anything else up there? Kroger and Publix don’t carry sorghum, you have to go look for a roadside stand in the mountains (which is usually a nice trip), but you can never be sure of the quality.
Lew
December 11th, 2012
3:20 pm
nolie – I pretty well agree, but nonetheless……
raleighbraves – Would not surprise me in the least. Hudson three 228 IP, 25 IP and 179 last year after missing his first four or so starts. Somehow, I just don’t see him losing 5 MPH off his fastball and falling apart all of a sudden.
raleighbravefan
December 11th, 2012
3:20 pm
nolie – Hue and cry, btch and moan…the usual blog modus operandi.
TheOnlyBravesFan
December 11th, 2012
3:20 pm
That’s true Rick…
well 1 rookie this year, 1 in 2014… and we’re gonna have 3 guys ready, with Wood likely knocking at the door as well.
ncscoots
December 11th, 2012
3:20 pm
I expect Huddy for an additional 2 years, barring unexpected injuries.
You think? I hadn’t really considered that as likely, but I guess it’s as reasonable as anything.
kenhotlanta
December 11th, 2012
3:21 pm
Heart, Rush, and Donna Summer among the new Rock and Roll Hall of Fame 2013 Inductees. About damn time for Rush and Heart, where’s Deep Purple?
brian
December 11th, 2012
3:21 pm
Horner missed so much time because of breaking his wrist as well…….
Though I loved when he emerged from the dugout cast and all to protect Pasqual Perez
Venice Jim
December 11th, 2012
3:22 pm
#125 – #76 on the ESPN list:
http://espn.go.com/mlb/feature/video/_/id/8652210/espn-hall-100-ranking-all-time-greatest-mlb-players
brian
December 11th, 2012
3:23 pm
Rush absolutely should be in Rcock’s HOF. Amazing how Rush is still very popular with teen age boys
ncscoots
December 11th, 2012
3:23 pm
I like hues and cries.
Rick C
December 11th, 2012
3:23 pm
Last I saw Rush was killing it in the popular vote. Unbelievable they still aren’t in.
ncscoots
December 11th, 2012
3:25 pm
About damn time for Rush and Heart
Sorry, ken, when Ann Wilson porked up, I never forgave her. Heart gets excluded from my ballot on the character, integrity, and caloric intake clause.
Arkansas Transplant
December 11th, 2012
3:26 pm
i dont, and im a natural optimist. 2 unproven rookies, one recent TJ patient, and 2 other guys who wont have 150 career starts between them.
I knew you’d finally see the advantages… all FRESH arms with plenty of innings left.
Just a note, I’d take Wainwright and he’s fresh off of TJ surgery as well and it wasn’t to long ago that Hudson was too and many many others. Not exactly a concern of mine.. I consider them fixed now.
Lew
December 11th, 2012
3:26 pm
228 IP, 215 IP and 179 IP.
Hillbilly
December 11th, 2012
3:26 pm
Gamblers and Beer drinkers – ZZ Top song? -Lew
Grinch?