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gdawginkalamazoo
December 11th, 2012
8:46 am
If Dawson is in then Murphy should be in when comparing the numbers. The other thing is to look at the teams that they played on. Without Murphy the Braves in the 80’s are a lot worse off.
richbrave
December 11th, 2012
8:48 am
BONIFACIO to the BRAVES
JasonInFL
December 11th, 2012
8:53 am
Again, I hope (and believe) that FW isn’t limiting his options in LF by looking for a leadoff guy. Just get the best player you can, Frankie!
unbelievable
December 11th, 2012
8:59 am
BONIFACIO to the BRAVES
Just threw up a little.
unbelievable
December 11th, 2012
9:01 am
Bonifacio isnt really worth trading for… Spruill may be too much. How about Northcraft? Ha. No need to bring him to form a LF platoon… Rev and Juan can handle the LF duties.
These options are not good enough to help us win the division.
keyLargo
December 11th, 2012
9:04 am
No need to bring him to form a LF platoon… Rev and Juan can handle the LF duties.
Better to Remain Silent and Be Thought a Fool than to Speak and Remove All Doubt
TheOnlyBravesFan
December 11th, 2012
9:07 am
.267/.329/.343/.671 with a .337 BABIP
Brava
December 11th, 2012
9:10 am
Ken Rosenthal @Ken_Rosenthal
Sources: #Mets last night upped offer on Dickey extension to 2/20. Team had been at 2/16 – barely above Blanton. @MartinoNYDN had first.
TheOnlyBravesFan
December 11th, 2012
9:11 am
And in 2009, when his BABIP was more normalized (.312), he did this… .252/.303/.308/.611 over 509 PAs. Has a career 81 OPS+
BravePack(FreeFan)
December 11th, 2012
9:12 am
Fans are so used to Wren’s dumpster diving that they’ve accepted players like Bonifacio and think he is the answer for LF.
JasonInFL
December 11th, 2012
9:17 am
Yup, I think part of these rumors are just to get the fans giddy when we start chasing the likes of Cody Ross. At this point. Ross is like Bonds compared to some of the other names being bandied about!
A.P.
December 11th, 2012
9:22 am
People on here really can’t believe that Juan Francisco should play LF right?
TheOnlyBravesFan
December 11th, 2012
9:24 am
Ben Duronio @Ben_Duronio
After Minor’s second half, I’d try and buy out his arb years. Risk involved on Braves end, but also on his end. Could save decent chunk.
Too soon.
Efrim
December 11th, 2012
9:24 am
Awesome take on the Twins signing of Kevin Correia from Twins blogger Aaron Gleeman: http://aarongleeman.com/2012/12/11/twins-sign-kevin-correia-to-two-year-10-million-contract/
Love this part in the last paragraph:
Ultimately it probably won’t matter much for 2013, because the Twins likely weren’t going to contend anyway, but it might matter in 2014 when Correia is still around making $5 million. And most of all it suggests that the Twins haven’t learned as much from their mistakes as hoped and haven’t kicked their addiction to low-velocity, low-strikeout, low-upside pitchers. Correia is a prototypical Twins pitcher and that ceased being a compliment years ago.
P'cola Brave
December 11th, 2012
9:25 am
JasonInFL
Not that there isn’t plenty of time left in the offseason but I think the realization is it will be someone like Ross in LF come opening day if its not internal options. I figure Ross will get a contract similar to Ludwick.
Efrim
December 11th, 2012
9:26 am
Too soon.
Agreed. Five years of control left and isn’t a free agent until after the 2017 season. Way too soon.
keyLargo
December 11th, 2012
9:27 am
I remember watching Bonafacio as a rookie open the season for the Marlins in 2009. Opening day he had 4 hits, 3 stolen bases, 2 RBI’s, and to top it off an inside the park HR. It was one of the most exciting days I’ve ever seen a lead off hitter have. The potential is there.
JasonInFL
December 11th, 2012
9:31 am
That wouldn’t be the worst thing in the world, P-Cola Brave. But, I think he gets a bigger contract than that.
I may be doing some work up your way…
Big Albany Dawg
December 11th, 2012
9:31 am
GREAT article. Thanks for the time it took to write it. Yes, as a Dad and a coach, I can point to “Murph” and say that’s the way to do it!
ncscoots
December 11th, 2012
9:35 am
I remember watching Bonafacio as a rookie open the season for the Marlins in 2009. Opening day he had 4 hits, 3 stolen bases, 2 RBI’s, and to top it off an inside the park HR. It was one of the most exciting days I’ve ever seen a lead off hitter have. The potential is there.
Yes, he had a great first week, and everybody here was screaming for the Braves to get someone just like him.
Then he proceeded to hit .234/.569 for the rest of the season. The screams died down.
David O'Brien
December 11th, 2012
9:35 am
Good point, Harleyman.
jbill
December 11th, 2012
9:43 am
Yes to Dale, the man belongs in HOF. Braves should be doing all they can to push for him to get the vote.
unbelievable
December 11th, 2012
9:45 am
Opening day he had 4 hits, 3 stolen bases, 2 RBI’s, and to top it off an inside the park HR. It was one of the most exciting days I’ve ever seen a lead off hitter have. The potential is there.
Its safe to assume that every MAJOR league ball player has potential. However, Bonifacio in 6 seasons has only had one season with an OPS over .650. If you cant get on base and you cant SLG then your value is limited. Super sub/bench role is perfect for him, but as a starting LF’r absolutely not.
Efrim
December 11th, 2012
9:45 am
Then he proceeded to hit .234/.569 for the rest of the season. The screams died down.
I’d be okay with him as a utility player, but in no way should he be the starting left fielder and leadoff hitter. That’s crazy.
ncscoots
December 11th, 2012
9:49 am
I’d be okay with him as a utility player
No room at the inn. Johnson can play all three OF spots and Janish handles middle IF. Bonifacio’s bat just doesn’t play, given those two bench players. Braves still need some bench sock from both sides, in my opinion. Internally, that might be Francisco and Mejia, but, if they look at external options, Bonifacio certainly doesn’t carry the day.
BravePack(FreeFan)
December 11th, 2012
9:49 am
keyLargo
December 11th, 2012
9:27 am
I remember watching Bonafacio as a rookie open the season for the Marlins in 2009. Opening day he had 4 hits, 3 stolen bases, 2 RBI’s, and to top it off an inside the park HR. It was one of the most exciting days I’ve ever seen a lead off hitter have. The potential is there.
Yeah Jordan Shafer had a pretty good 1st week too and we all know how that turned out. He had potential too, in fact, the Braves still believe in that potential by bringing him back.
TheOnlyBravesFan
December 11th, 2012
9:50 am
Better to Remain Silent and Be Thought a Fool than to Speak and Remove All Doubt
Well, then…. stay quiet and stop pushing Bonifacio
P'cola Brave
December 11th, 2012
9:50 am
.275/.336/.350 – This is what Fangraphs predicts Bonafacio will do this year with 45 SB. I don’t think OPS really signifies what he brings to the table. I know nobody wants the guy with no power but if I remember correctly the guy is really efficient at stealing bags. Not ideal but isn’t the worse option.
TennesseePaul
December 11th, 2012
9:51 am
Then he proceeded to hit .234/.569 for the rest of the season. The screams died down.
LaHair brought those screams back to a fevered pitch.
Tumbledown
December 11th, 2012
9:54 am
Is Bonifacio to the Braves a done deal or just a rumor? It’s frustrating when you read a post that indicates it actually happened and there is no source. Anyway, if it happened, the Braves better not have given up too much.
George
December 11th, 2012
9:55 am
Murphy is NOT
a Hall of Fame.
Good person
but that is it.
ncscoots
December 11th, 2012
9:55 am
Not ideal but isn’t the worse option.
Consider the makeup of the bench. Laird, Johnson, Janish, and two more spots. You really want one of those to go to yet another guy with no power?
TheOnlyBravesFan
December 11th, 2012
9:55 am
Yeah Jordan Shafer had a pretty good 1st week too and we all know how that turned out. He had potential too, in fact, the Braves still believe in that potential by bringing him back.
BJ Upton had a pretty good first 2 years…. look at the last 4, we all know how that turned out. He had potential too, in fact, the Braves believed in it by signing him to a 5/75mil contract.
Eh, that’s pretty weak
TennesseePaul
December 11th, 2012
9:55 am
I don’t think OPS really signifies what he brings to the table.
True. No need to complicate it. That projected .336 OBP at the top of the line up is reason enough. Or the career .329 OBP, or the sans-career-year OBP of .312, or the career OPS+ of 81. Those really signify what he brings to the table.
unbelievable
December 11th, 2012
9:57 am
.275/.336/.350 – This is what Fangraphs predicts Bonafacio will do this year with 45 SB. I don’t think OPS really signifies what he brings to the table.
Look at Fangraphs projections for Constanza, .285/.344/.334 21SB 418AB’s. These guys are bench players, not starters. Schafer is projected at .233/.313/.323 28SB 430AB’s. How many of these “slap” hitters do we need to fill our team with. Bonifacio can play multiple positions which gives him a slight edge over the other two guys for a bench role. If we are looking at any of them for the starting LF job, this offense will not be able to compete and win this division. Give us a impact bat in the middle of the order and let Prado lead off. He’s proven he can handle it and do it more successfully than these guys.
O.J.
December 11th, 2012
9:58 am
I think richbrave was being facetious with that Bonifacio to Braves thing.
ncscoots
December 11th, 2012
9:59 am
Those really signify what he brings to the table.
A half-full pitcher of tea, and that’s about it.
TheOnlyBravesFan
December 11th, 2012
9:59 am
Fangraphs predicts
Also predicted that Jose Constanza would hit .285/.344/.334
Yeah, like that’s happening.
proudnole
December 11th, 2012
9:59 am
If only there were justice in this world….
I just wish you could have been there, in a deserted Atlanta parking lot outside Fulton County Stadium about 1985. A tired father and a little first grader trudge along alone, worn out from a long, stiflingly hot day in the ballpark. The Braves have defeated the defending champion Mets, and, to the little guy’s delight, his hero (Murphy) has hit a pivotal and monstrous home run to seal the win. A big old family car, not a flashy sports job, pulls up and stops. The driver, Dale Murphy himself, without request or supplication (in fact he’s gone unnoticed until he stops), pulls alongside the little guy (probably wearing a Braves #3 jersey), brings his car to a complete stop and takes the time to point his finger, grin and wave at the little one. There’s no one else near, and it is clear: Murphy’s attention is focused, with laser-like singularity, on that one little boy.
Moments like that are never forgotten, and gestures like his are eternal and, sadly, rare.
Certainly my son and I will never forget.
God bless Dale Murphy.
TennesseePaul
December 11th, 2012
10:00 am
Laird, Johnson, Janish, and two more spots.
A move for LF will deepen the bench, as I’d imagine that it is a goal to gain a starting player more than it would be to gain a “utility” type player. That could make the bench deeper by forcing Francisco there and Gattis gets the call up. But who knows. They say saving the $10 now means they can get a bigger player at the deadline, since it is only half or a third of the salary they would need to pay… and that makes me happy. I mean, think back on all those $20M-$30M players Wren has traded for… Really looking forward to that.
Murph
December 11th, 2012
10:00 am
I’d rather go with Schafer than Bonifacio. At least he won’t cost the team any players, and chances are he’ll provide similar production with slightly more pop.
P'cola Brave
December 11th, 2012
10:02 am
We’re not getting an impact bat for LF. Unless Cody Ross is your definition of impact it isn’t going to happen.
CB
December 11th, 2012
10:02 am
Guys,you might as well accept it. Your starting LF- Jordan Schafer.
keyLargo
December 11th, 2012
10:02 am
Nobody is pushing Bonafacio. I just said I was in the stadium in 2009 and saw him have a day you don’t have unless you can play baseball very well. Seeing him hit the ball to the wall in CF and having enough speed to get the Inside the Park HR without a play at home was something I’ll never forget. I just said he had the potential to help the Braves. Now it may be unrealized potential, but it’s there.
That’s got no connection to pushing a player to be a starter.
P'cola Brave
December 11th, 2012
10:03 am
Andruw Jones headed to Japan
TennesseePaul
December 11th, 2012
10:04 am
chances are he’ll provide similar production with slightly more pop.
No he won’t.
unbelievable
December 11th, 2012
10:06 am
For all of those willing to settle for Schafer, Bonifacio, or Constanza leading off. Who would you rather have at the top of our lineup?
Prado
Heyward
Justin Upton
or
Garbage
Prado
Heyward?
These slap hitters cant drive in runs when they cant hit the ball out of the infield. Prado provides you with a potential big bat leading off that can drive in runs if the bottom of the order is doing their job.
jbill
December 11th, 2012
10:06 am
Free Fan..Schafer was brought back because he was cheap off waivers for bench help…he was a failure with Astros and Braves in past…he sucked_______weeds and on field. Todd Cunningham would be 100 times better.
TheOnlyBravesFan
December 11th, 2012
10:07 am
Schafer for starting LF… I’ll be using lots of buckets this season… But at least he costs about 2mil less than Boni, no players need to be traded. I would platoon Rev or Reed and Juan over Schafer though…
But to see that go up to bat…. .211/.297/.294/.591
ncscoots
December 11th, 2012
10:08 am
No he won’t.
I agree. Schafer hasn’t been the same hitter since the wrist injury. And too many people have talked him into trying to be a speedy no-lumber guy.
P'cola Brave
December 11th, 2012
10:09 am
unbelievable
Well since we’re not getting Upton I guess the other lineup. Hate to have no one hitting 3rd.
TheOnlyBravesFan
December 11th, 2012
10:10 am
Terdo, Cunningham, Gattis are all options as well, I guess… none are really appealing though
Steve from OH
December 11th, 2012
10:10 am
I’d rather go with Schafer than Bonifacio. At least he won’t cost the team any players, and chances are he’ll provide similar production with slightly more pop.
I drink the Schafer kool-aid more than anyone on here, but I don’t want either of them starting for us. Period.
But Schafer as a bench guy? Eh? Eh?
DAP
December 11th, 2012
10:10 am
Andruw Jones headed to Japan
oh my gosh…that sucks. i mena, i guess its fine, but who would have ever thought that andruw would end his career in japan? what the heck?
raleighbravefan
December 11th, 2012
10:11 am
I don’t know much about Bonifacio…or his potential/upside. I know he is probably cheap. Prado was once considered a “utility” guy until given a chance. Now he’s a fulltime starter…at several positions. But then, he’s special.
Murph
December 11th, 2012
10:11 am
No he won’t.
TP, compare Schafer’s 2012 stats with Bonifacio’s….
.211/.297/.294/.591
313 AB
40 runs
66 hits
27 SB
4 HR
12 XBH (not including HR)
.258/.330/.316/.645
244 AB
30 runs
63 hits
30 SB
1 HR
7 XBH (not including HR)
Bonifacio is better… but it’s kind of like deciding if you want to step in bulldog crap or golden retriever crap.
jbill
December 11th, 2012
10:14 am
If Braves can’t do any better than Schafer____They need to hang it up and go home.. Damn some of you so called fans..
Efrim
December 11th, 2012
10:14 am
They say saving the $10 now means they can get a bigger player at the deadline, since it is only half or a third of the salary they would need to pay… and that makes me happy. I mean, think back on all those $20M-$30M players Wren has traded for… Really looking forward to that.
Seriously. I mean, what sort of comment was that from Wren? Posturing for trade talk positioning? I hope. Silly comment, as if the Braves are ever looking to acquire players that will be paid $10 million dollars over the seasons final three months. I get that they shouldn’t just spend to spend, but then I guess Wren is just a tad bit more confident with the team’s current projected 25-man roster than I am.
raleighbravefan
December 11th, 2012
10:15 am
LF oteions are dwindling…the few difference makers…very few….are quite expensive. Still hoping Wren can work some magic, but I would rather see what the young guys can do in ST, than to make a bad trade/signing of someone either grossly overpaid, or mediocre.
TheOnlyBravesFan
December 11th, 2012
10:15 am
Career: Bonifacio .343 SLG, Schafer .301
2012: Bonifacio .316 SLG, Schafer .294
keyLargo
December 11th, 2012
10:15 am
Andruw Jones headed to Japan
Andruw Jones has made $107 Million in his career. Why is he going to Japan?
martimus
December 11th, 2012
10:16 am
Dale Murphy belongs. Compare his stats to say Gary Carters. Why not?
ncscoots
December 11th, 2012
10:18 am
I gotta tell you, if today is going to be Bonifacio-Schafer comparisons, I think I’ll just take a nap.
jbill
December 11th, 2012
10:18 am
Steve I don’t want Schafer on team period….I think Wren said the bench crap.
He is a piss poor example for Braves fans and kids.
DAP
December 11th, 2012
10:20 am
well, all of this emilio bonafacio talk IS making me think fondly about cody ross.
D man
December 11th, 2012
10:20 am
Murph is already a Hall of Famer to me. He has always been my all time favorite Baseball player and roll model. What a great man…
Lew
December 11th, 2012
10:21 am
“A half full pitcher of tea”
Well, if you’re dying of thirst, that half full pitcher of tea would be a lifesaver. However, I’d say the Braves were pretty well hydrated without him.
Murph
December 11th, 2012
10:23 am
I realize that Andruw hit .190 something last season, but WTF, is he not worth signing for $1mil to come be power RH bench bat and 4th OF?
So many times he’s been brought up on this blog and people have snorted and turned their backs to him… look at what he did for Braves baseball. Easily one of the best CF to ever play in ATL. He can still hit the ball hard.
Letting him go to Japan without so much as a second look doesn’t sit well with me. He’s treated like some sort of leper around here… if he were to walk into a room 90% of the people in it would avoid him and crowd to the opposite side, avoiding eye contact.
Yet, Tom Glavine is brought back to pitch and pitch horribly so he can technically end his career in ATL? Whatever.
raleighbravefan
December 11th, 2012
10:23 am
Efrim – I don’t disagree….I’m just wondering if anyone currently available is worth spending the money (or prospects, for that matter) on. Of course, Wren knows a lot better than any of us, who is available, at what cost, and what do we actually have available to spend. Still plenty of time to figure it out.
P'cola Brave
December 11th, 2012
10:25 am
Very few LH bats in FA that provide power for the bench.
Brava
December 11th, 2012
10:28 am
Bob Nightengale @BNightengale
Andruw Jones, who spent last year with #Yankees. will play in Japan (Rakuten Eagles), according to Nikkan Sports, earning $3.5 million.
flange1
December 11th, 2012
10:30 am
I kind of likes FW saying that keeping some “dry powder” for later in the season could give him the chance to spend 10 million on a 20 million dollar player….
Maybe you go with Prado, Francisco, Johnson, Janish and 2 more subs that hit until the all star break and see how the team does.
At that point Gattis should be ready and the Braves should have some money for an upgrade…
DAP
December 11th, 2012
10:32 am
p’cola Very few LH bats in FA that provide power for the bench.
berkman, giambi, huff, overbay, pena, abreu, ibanez, hafner, matsui, scott, thome, are all free agents. you might have some qualms or questions about some of them, but they are all powerful lefty bench bats.
unbelievable
December 11th, 2012
10:35 am
Flange what happens if the division is already out of reach by the trade deadline because we’ve given AB’s to Schafer/Constanza/Fransisico? Not a good strategy IMO. Beachy should be viewed as our big deadline addition. We need the offensive addition before the season starts.
P'cola Brave
December 11th, 2012
10:35 am
I think we all know Wren won’t trade for a 15-20 million dollar player midseason because he won’t part with the prospects needed to complete the trade for a rental. I don’t want him to make a move just to make one but theres got to be a better option than Francisco. The guy has talent but I have a hard time handing the job to him because he had a good winter ball.
Lew
December 11th, 2012
10:38 am
“So many times he’s been brought up on this blog”.
True Murph, but most of those were your posts the past several offseasons.
Arkansas Transplant
December 11th, 2012
10:40 am
At this point, I’d just assume they take the 10 mil and pocket it into some sort of account to be paid out later. There’s really not anyone out there that I’d like to see them sign. Right now if we can’t get some package together to acquire Olt or Upton.. let’s just standpat. Possibly invite Figgins ST and maybe sign Ryan Raburn as bench depth.
Joe Cool
December 11th, 2012
10:41 am
I think Francisco deserves a chance to play 3B with Prado in LF to start the season. If Juan F. plays well and Uggla still struggles we can bench or try to trade Uggla and move Prado back to 2B. Then trade for a LF. I bet Justin Upton will still be available at the trade deadline. (His on the block every year, but never traded.) I would rather have Bonifacio than Schafer however, but I’m sure most teams would.
ncscoots
December 11th, 2012
10:41 am
well, all of this emilio bonafacio talk IS making me think fondly about cody ross.
Do that, and evil is once again victorious.
CrαZy
December 11th, 2012
10:42 am
Andruw Jones has made $107 Million in his career. Why is he going to Japan?
This is just a guess, but probably because he’s spent most of the 107M already.
BravePack(FreeFan)
December 11th, 2012
10:43 am
TheOnlyBravesFan
December 11th, 2012
9:55 am
Yeah Jordan Shafer had a pretty good 1st week too and we all know how that turned out. He had potential too, in fact, the Braves still believe in that potential by bringing him back.
BJ Upton had a pretty good first 2 years…. look at the last 4, we all know how that turned out. He had potential too, in fact, the Braves believed in it by signing him to a 5/75mil contract.
Eh, that’s pretty weak
Dude I hope you really aren’t comparing Schafer and Upton. Upton has shown major potential when he was very young. Even when he has a bad year, it’s still way better than anything Schafer has shown. 30 HR’s and 30 SB’s at least. He has shown the ability to hit anywhere from .270 to .300 when he isn’t trying to provide all the offense like he did when he was with the Rays and no one else to help him except Longoria who was injured a lot. Like I’ve said about 20 times Upton hitting in this Braves line up with have a career year.
Lew
December 11th, 2012
10:43 am
Hudson pitched five games returning from TJ surgery. Medlen pitched mere innings. Why would anyone count on anything sigificant from Beachy until 2014?
raleighbravefan
December 11th, 2012
10:44 am
unbelievable – So who do we go after, and what does he cost? Serious question…not being snarky.
CB
December 11th, 2012
10:44 am
Andruw probably needs 3.5mil for the new vehicles he buys every year.
Real Talk
December 11th, 2012
10:47 am
@RaleighBraveFan I think we may sit on the money and see how it all pans out, which may not be a bad option. When a righty is on the mound Prado in LF and Juan at 3B, then when a Lefty is on the mound its Reed in LF and Martin at 3B.
Murph
December 11th, 2012
10:48 am
True Murph, but most of those were your posts the past several offseasons.
Damn skippy. He’s fit a need each time, but people act like he’s some sort of retarded step brother who is not to be spoken of because every time he comes up mom starts drinking again.
He’s not the player that he was, but I have a hard time agreeing with anyone who says he’s worse than what our bench options have been over the last few seasons. Hinske was a fat sack of crap, Constanza a worthless slap hitter, Schafer… well, you get the point.
I just don’t get the hate. Oh well, he’s off to Japan now… and we’ll be lamenting the lack of power off the bench through September. Again.
TheOnlyBravesFan
December 11th, 2012
10:48 am
I think Francisco deserves a chance to play 3B
No, Prado does… he’s been waiting to move there forever. Better defender at 3B than Juan is…. and I”d like to see that left side be strong with Prado and Simmons. Put Juan in LF, he should be slim enough to play out there now.
His average defense should be fine for the OF.
And since Juan likely would be part of a platoon, I’d rather he and Reed/Rev be the only moving parts, not Prado. Give Prado a position to call his own, maybe he’d be more open to an extension.
O.J.
December 11th, 2012
10:49 am
Notice richbrave posted that and hasnt posted since?
raleighbravefan
December 11th, 2012
10:49 am
Andruw for $3.5M? uh…no thanks. It’s like star wars…the days of him being the 2nd best defensive CF of all time, and a 50HR hitter were long ago and far away.
raleighbravefan
December 11th, 2012
10:51 am
Real Talk – Pretty much my thinking, as well.
TennesseePaul
December 11th, 2012
10:51 am
TP, compare Schafer’s 2012 stats with Bonifacio’s….
Why? Schafer sucks.
brian
December 11th, 2012
10:51 am
Gary carter is a catcher. Can’t compare murph to carter. Andre Dawson is probably the best comparison. The joke of Dawson winning the 1987 MVP probably had long term affects of Hall voting. What if Dawson did not win the 1987 MVP but Murph and his 44 home runs (.580 slugging) did.?
unbelievable
December 11th, 2012
10:52 am
unbelievable – So who do we go after, and what does he cost? Serious question…not being snarky.
Im not sure who all is available, but Choo, Upton, Hart, Willingham, Ellsbury, Gordon, and Granderson have all been mentioned to be available. Some of these have probably changed. Im sure there are a few others, but this group is an immediate upgrade over the Fransisco/Schafer/Constanza/Bonifacio group. Even Youkilis would be an upgrade. As for the cost, each trade piece changes it. However, Teheran/Delgado/Bethancourt/Ahmed/Gilmartin are some useful pieces that can bring us a good piece for next year.
raleighbravefan
December 11th, 2012
10:53 am
TOBF – Agree about Prado at 3RD (assuming that is what he would prefer), and a platoon in LF might work pretty well….minus the Rev part, of course.
raleighbravefan
December 11th, 2012
10:54 am
Of course, this isn’t fantacy baseball, and I have NO idea how Francisco would handle LF.
brian
December 11th, 2012
10:55 am
Bonafacio would be a great addition to our club…….not as the savior in LF but as a super utility speedster who can lead off.
A lot of ifs but if Heyward and freeman keep developing, the real Mccan returns after surgery, a full year of Simmons, and if Uggla has any sort of rebound it will not matter who is in LF. I still think that Upton will thrive in Atlanta and the NL.
unbelievable
December 11th, 2012
10:56 am
Yeah, I probably wouldnt mess with Prado. He needs to either be in LF or 3B, but not bouncing back and forth a couple of times each week.
TheOnlyBravesFan
December 11th, 2012
10:57 am
Who exactly could we trade for next summer who would be a FA at season’s end (since it seems that FW will want to reassess LF next offseason), and not have to trade Delgado, Teheran, Graham, Ahmed, Bethancourt, Sims, and Wood for, who costs so much money where we need to save 10+mil?
DAP
December 11th, 2012
10:59 am
brian What if Dawson did not win the 1987 MVP but Murph and his 44 home runs (.580 slugging) did.?
\ive never heard this argument before, but you are right. murph’s stats blow away dawson in ‘87. if murph had 3 MVP awards, would this be a question? if dawson had none, would he be in? the one MVP award he probably shouldnt have gotten anyway really helped him. by the way…baseball reference says murph finished 11th in MVP voting that year. what the heck? 11th?
BravePack(FreeFan)
December 11th, 2012
11:00 am
I agree with AT. If Wren makes a trade no it has to be for someone like J Upton or Olt because there isn’t much else out there. Gordon is no longer available, those Mile High idiots are asking too much for Fowler and we know Wren doesn’t like to give up too much. I’m not saying Schafer is my 1st choice but who knows what the spring will bring…he still is 26. I know we already have guys like Bonifacio on this team to give up prospects to trade for him though.