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old man
December 17th, 2012
1:56 pm
ccrider, agree 100% on a lefty PH being helpful, especially if we do end up with the platoon situation.
unbelievable
December 17th, 2012
1:58 pm
Of course, that could change in a heartbeat if someone backs down on trade demand for a player such as Fowler, or the Blue Jays decide to trade Bonifacio, or someone else becomes available not previously thought to be available.
So everything changes in a heartbeat if those 2 become available? Bonifacio is a super utility player, nothing more, and certainly not an upgrade worth trading anything for. Our list has gone from impact players to bench players.
DAP
December 17th, 2012
1:58 pm
scoots As long as one keeps in mind that relievers also give up runs credited to other pitchers. I think that’s one reason that ERA has fallen out of favor as a yardstick for relievers.
IS% is a good one, but then we run into a problem with comparing middle relievers (like o’flarety) to closers (like most of the guys on TOBF’s list). closers usually dont get inherited runners. so, thier % can be artificially low.
ill just add that if you like WAR, o’flarety is better in that category over the last two years than many of the pitchers on TOBF’s list. seems like EOF is pretty competitive as a top 25 reliever.
ncscoots
December 17th, 2012
1:58 pm
Not a very sexy approach, but a lot of teams would view it as an enviable position to be in
Yeah, well, here’s hoping Evan Gattis has an absolutely eye-popping ST. As in A can’t-send-him-down-didn’t-you-see-that ST.
JC Brave
December 17th, 2012
2:00 pm
JC Brave..Next up is Adam Dunn! hehehe
No, the obsessions are exclusively with weak hitters.
ncscoots
December 17th, 2012
2:01 pm
IS% is a good one, but then we run into a problem
Yes, there are too many situations in which one is comparing apples to kumquats, re relievers.
Brava
December 17th, 2012
2:04 pm
Buster Olney @Buster_ESPN
Willie Weinbaum writes about the padded caps that pitchers will try out, as part of the effort to reduce injuries. http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/8755180/pitchers-try-mlb-examined-padded-caps …
TheOnlyBravesFan
December 17th, 2012
2:04 pm
.415 slugging isn’t weak… just 7 points lower than what Upton has posted the last 4 years!
BravePack(FreeFan)
December 17th, 2012
2:06 pm
Brava
December 17th, 2012
1:34 pm
Susan Slusser @susanslusser
Industry source tells me #Athletics likely to explore trade options for SS now Drew off market. #RedSox offer was quite a bit more than A’s.
Alright Ahmed for Reddick…we have our LF’er.
ncscoots
December 17th, 2012
2:07 pm
the padded caps that pitchers will try out, as part of the effort to reduce injuries.
I wonder…will that extra weight on your skull help you keep your head behind the ball, or will it make you fly open glove-side?
nolie
December 17th, 2012
2:08 pm
Alright Ahmed for Reddick
don’t want Reddick, but they would not make that deal at all
TheOnlyBravesFan
December 17th, 2012
2:09 pm
wait, he was better than .415… .438 in his one season of starting… better than BJs .422
nolie
December 17th, 2012
2:13 pm
way too much stuff on here is based on one season
Efrim
December 17th, 2012
2:13 pm
Hasn’t Ahmed not seen Double-A? Why would the A’s skip him over two levels? Isn’t the whole point that they need a SS for the present?
TheOnlyBravesFan
December 17th, 2012
2:16 pm
good numbers in the minors… consistent. Only has struggled when he’s been a part-timer (2010 and ‘12)
JC Brave
December 17th, 2012
2:19 pm
CAREER: .247/.301/.402/.703
nolie
December 17th, 2012
2:19 pm
I’m guessing Pack was kidding with that one….
unbelievable
December 17th, 2012
2:22 pm
way too much stuff on here is based on one season
Tell that to the Bonifacio group
ncscoots
December 17th, 2012
2:22 pm
Only has struggled when he’s been a part-timer (2010 and ‘12)
That’s practically his entire bleepin’ career, fercrissake. Did this guy marry into your frickin’ family or something? He’s a scrub. He was a scrub then, he’s a scrub now. The Braves aren’t going to trade for a guy that iffy, so what does it take for you to get that? Geez.
JC Brave
December 17th, 2012
2:24 pm
Bourjos had a great season at AAA in 2010, but I just don’t see the guy as a fit for LF.
Leadoff, maybe, if he can repeat his AAA numbers.
Not a corner OFer.
Tomahawkin (Suffering Fan)
December 17th, 2012
2:27 pm
David O’Brien
‘I mentioned at Winter Meetings the possibility of Braves using Prado both at 3B and LF, sharing duties w/ Francisco at 3B and w/ Reed Johnson in LF. As the weeks pass, seems like that possibility grows.
Braves are still exploring potential trades for a 3B or LF, but I don’t think they’ll overpay. Rather than give up too much, I think they’d rather see what they’ve got in spring, how Francisco looks at 3B, etc., and make a deal later if need be. Of course, that could change in a heartbeat if someone backs down on trade demand for a player such as Fowler, or the Blue Jays decide to trade Bonifacio, or someone else becomes available not previously thought to be available.”
I’m considering to Bank on the Braves Making a S. Training deal or a Big Trade during the season…The Market this off season Blows…Oh and I really Cant Stand X-Mas Music, especially X-Mas Jackson 5 but that Old X-Mas Mariah Goes Hard!
nolie
December 17th, 2012
2:27 pm
I would be more interested in Bourjos if he hadn’t done the same thing in 12 as he did in 10 in the bigs
ccrider
December 17th, 2012
2:28 pm
old man, if someone else doesn’t become available at a reasonable price, then the Braves start the season with the platoon and signing a lefty bat. I personally am OK with that. I want to see if Francisco could be a a steal of a pickup. If, Gattis,also, turns into the real thing, we may be glad we didn’t trade or sign someone.
old man
December 17th, 2012
2:28 pm
DOB, I did some more digging on the numbers you gave us for Juan. His career MLB OPS splits are .806/.446 (RHP/LHP). The .806 includes his horrid pinch hit numbers. When I stripped out the pinch hits last week, the MLB OPS against RHPs was .907. This winter, his numbers are reversed, .908/.964. Obviously, he’s crushing the ball on pitches from either side this winter, but it’s interesting that his number against righties (which I assume this winter has zero pinch hits) is almost exactly equal to his MLB non-pinch hitting against righties—.907 versus .908.
But against lefties (and I note he has faced an abnormally high number of lefties this winter–46% of his at bats) compare his MLB career OPS of .446 to this winter at .964!
So he has crushed righties, but he is really crushing lefties. Very out of character for him.
TheOnlyBravesFan
December 17th, 2012
2:30 pm
the pitchers at AA winterball sukk… facing poor pitching overall, likely poor lefties as well. I’m looking at his stats with a huge grain of salt… even his K to BB rates are worrisome (28-5) or something like that
old man
December 17th, 2012
2:31 pm
News flash!
Francisco winter ball K rate falls to 27.2%!
Murph
December 17th, 2012
2:31 pm
I curse Josh Hamilton for signing with the Angels and opening up the blog to months of further Bourjos talks. Curse him.
HooRah
December 17th, 2012
2:31 pm
was does old man spend all his time compiling stats with such small sample sizes as to be unreliable and then present them to us as if they meant something?
Efrim
December 17th, 2012
2:31 pm
I’m guessing Pack was kidding with that one….
Oh….
I saw Nick Ahmed for Josh Reddick and I jumped. My bad.
old man
December 17th, 2012
2:33 pm
Francisco winter checklist:
Get in better shape: check
Crush the ball: check
Hit lefties: check
Strike out less: meh, not so much
nolie
December 17th, 2012
2:33 pm
well I don’t KNOW that he was kidding Ef
unbelievable
December 17th, 2012
2:34 pm
But against lefties (and I note he has faced an abnormally high number of lefties this winter–46% of his at bats) compare his MLB career OPS of .446 to this winter at .964!
Juan hasnt improved that much. Winter league stats are kind of like Spring Training stats, dont read into them. Pitchers are working on certain pitches/deliveries and other things. I like the fact that Juan has improved physically, but until he’s facing MLB quality starters on a daily basis we should temper our expectations. Its the same guy that had a sub .290OBP the last two seasons.
JoeFan
December 17th, 2012
2:35 pm
Unless a trade comes gift wrapped, the Braves are going to spring training with what they have and that may prove to be a good thing if Gattis and Francisco come through. If they are found lacking then Wren still has plenty of resources to make a deal.
JoeFan
December 17th, 2012
2:35 pm
Unless a trade comes gift wrapped, the Braves are going to spring training with what they have and that may prove to be a good thing if Gattis and Francisco come through. If they are found lacking then Wren still has plenty of resources to make a deal.
Efrim
December 17th, 2012
2:35 pm
I still have a hard time believing they won’t go get someone for LF before February and go into the season with a low-80’s payroll, which would be their lowest opening day payroll since 2000, I believe.
ncscoots
December 17th, 2012
2:35 pm
I curse Josh Hamilton for signing with the Angels and opening up the blog to months of further Bourjos talks. Curse him.
I could always find the originator of such talk, break his fingers with his keyboard, and then throw the keyboard into the fire surrounding his computer (did I mention starting a fire with his computer? maybe not).
Not saying that I will…but I could. I could.
TheOnlyBravesFan
December 17th, 2012
2:35 pm
payroll was effectively 83mil last year…
nolie
December 17th, 2012
2:36 pm
Its the same guy that had a sub .290OBP the last two seasons….unbelievable
which is really what I have against him by far the most
Efrim
December 17th, 2012
2:37 pm
I think both Trumbo and Bourjos are bad fits for this team as currently constructed. Bourjos is like Ben Revere – zero sense in playing that guy in LF.
nolie
December 17th, 2012
2:39 pm
I’m sure they will try, but I don’t think it all that unlikely at all Efrim. totally depends on what becomes available. there are certainly many mentioned so far that I would prefer nothing rather than them
old man
December 17th, 2012
2:40 pm
Francisco winter checklist:
Get in better shape: check
Crush the ball: check
Hit lefties: check check
Strike out less: meh, not so much
Change name to Bourjos, to get TOBF support: strongly considering it
JC Brave
December 17th, 2012
2:43 pm
I would be more interested in Bourjos if he hadn’t done the same thing in 12 as he did in 10 in the bigs
Exactly.
Bourjos is like Ben Revere – zero sense in playing that guy in LF.
No sense at all.
nolie
December 17th, 2012
2:43 pm
in case you haven’t noticed TOBF’s support is pretty much the kiss of death……
BravePack(FreeFan)
December 17th, 2012
2:44 pm
nolie
December 17th, 2012
2:19 pm
I’m guessing Pack was kidding with that one….
Good guess.
I think DOB’s post basically has told us that the team is heading to ST as is, unless someone calls Wren and comes down in price, which I highly doubt will happen. So based on that I want to see Gattis win the LF spot, Prado goes to his permanent spot for this year at 3B…he deserves it and has earned it. Not sure about the line-up though. I guess:
Simmons
Prado
Heyward
Upton
Freeman
Uggla
Gattis
Laird
To start the season and see how the White Bear does.
old man
December 17th, 2012
2:45 pm
Juan’s BB rate this winter is 8.1%.
ncscoots
December 17th, 2012
2:45 pm
which is really what I have against [Francisco] by far the most
Juan has thrown up some winter league mirages before, not as if this year is news.
Mako
December 17th, 2012
2:47 pm
I’m still hoping for Fowler. Fowler/Upton/Heyward isn’t Upton/Upton/Heyward, but that would still be a talented OF.
Murph
December 17th, 2012
2:49 pm
I still have a hard time believing they won’t go get someone for LF before February and go into the season with a low-80’s payroll
Yeah, it’s pretty damn disappointing.
I get that the FA market sucked and that teams are asking for too much for trades, but c’mon… ALL that money and ALL those trade chips… and we got Upton plus 7 or 8 minor league backup catchers/infielders.
Does Wren realize that next year is going to be worse? More teams with way more money to spend than the Braves. Year after that? Even worse. Worse, worse, worse, for the next 20+ years as every team except the Braves signs huge TV deals.
Would have been better to overpay for someone this year, when resources were available, than to go into next year with the same exact problems only now facing a much more competitive landscape in which deals will try to be made.
Toronto’s moves may have been crazy, but you gotta hand it to them… they’re going to go big or go home. I applaud that approach. This whole safe thing doesn’t work for me, watching the team fall one or two spots a year down the payroll rankings. Just wait until guys like Heyward and Freeman are no longer affordable and leave town. We’ll get a glimpse of what that feels like next season when BMac walks. It’s gonna hurt, especially with the horrible minor league system the Braves now possess.
To sum it all up, this offseason has sucked. The end.
njbraves
December 17th, 2012
2:49 pm
“Premium Players”
brian
December 17th, 2012
2:52 pm
Mets starting to stockpile some arms. Harvey, Wheeler, abd now Syndergaard
ncscoots
December 17th, 2012
2:52 pm
Not sure about the line-up though
At least, Fredo has learned that posting lineups in in print before ST isn’t the all-time champeen of ideas. So, there’s yet still hope for us that he’ll come up with one that makes sense.
JC Brave
December 17th, 2012
2:55 pm
ncscoots @ 2:35
Right below your comment, that’s the guy
ncscoots
December 17th, 2012
2:55 pm
Mets starting to stockpile some arms. Harvey, Wheeler, abd now Syndergaard
I don’t think this is Sandy’s first rodeo.
Tomahawkin (Suffering Fan)
December 17th, 2012
2:59 pm
I’m looking Foward to watching what Lil Andy Simmons can do over a season…Didn’t he win the Batting Title in the Carolina League 2 years ago?
Efrim
December 17th, 2012
2:59 pm
I hope we get surprised, nolie. I really do.
Mets starting to stockpile some arms. Harvey, Wheeler, abd now Syndergaard
Bunch of good looking arms in that system: Montero, Mateo, Tapia, Fulmer and now Syndergaard. They’ve got some young position player prospects in Cechinni and Nimmo that are exciting too. And of course Wheeler and d’Arnaud. I think it’s a Top 10 system with those two at the top and a decent amount of depth.
nolie
December 17th, 2012
3:05 pm
we had a better outfield last season than any we are gonna put together this season more than likely.
Coach (2012 Fredi's Beisbol Fandango)
December 17th, 2012
3:06 pm
unbelievable
December 17th, 2012
1:58 pm
Bonifacio is a super utility player, nothing more, and certainly not an upgrade worth trading anything for. Our list has gone from impact players to bench players.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
So was Omar Infante
Efrim
December 17th, 2012
3:06 pm
Mets fans will ask questions as to why the payroll decreased so much going into 2013. Even if you add Santana’s buyout for 2014, they should have a good amount of room to add a player. Might make some sense for them to give up a 2nd rounder and try to sign Swisher for RF. I know he’d love to stay in the big City and his steady presense would help the Mets lineup. Probably not going to happen, but I’d consider it if I were Sandy.
phil
December 17th, 2012
3:08 pm
We won 94 meaningless games…
We won zero meaningful games…
What is the meaning of it all?
TennesseePaul
December 17th, 2012
3:09 pm
To sum it all up, this offseason has sucked. The end.
I knew as much when they opened the off-season by reacquiring Jordan Schafer. Just been terrible from the get go.
TheOnlyBravesFan
December 17th, 2012
3:09 pm
David O’Brien @ajcbraves
He’s playing every day, though not facing many quality lefties. RT @sectionEJseat7: @ajcbraves DOB- is Juan seeing both LH and RH pitching?
Coach (2012 Fredi's Beisbol Fandango)
December 17th, 2012
3:14 pm
Who’s our left fielder, how do we we replace Bourn, what will the bench look like,and where is Freeman’s back up at 1st?
Question’s needing answers……..
TennesseePaul
December 17th, 2012
3:14 pm
Mets fans will ask questions as to why the payroll decreased so much going into 2013
Not really. Got a lot of family and friends in NYC that are Mets fans… the majority are still reeling about Bernie Madoff. Really dampened their spirits and injured their overall pride that their favorite team was connected to corporate robber barons, fraud and theft. And the park is named after a bank to boot.
unbelievable
December 17th, 2012
3:14 pm
So was Omar Infante
Im very aware that Infante was a bench player, your point? Every team has bench players. Most playoff caliber teams dont look to fill their LF starting position with one. Infante is a very valuable utility player just as Bonifacio would be. However, most want him as a starter and thats a joke. Btw, Bonifacio has only had 1 season with an OPS over .650….Infante has had 6 seasons with an OPS over .750…You cant even begin to compare these two players offensively.
Efrim
December 17th, 2012
3:15 pm
To sum it all up, this offseason has sucked. The end.
I knew as much when they opened the off-season by reacquiring Jordan Schafer. Just been terrible from the get go.
I wish he had gone for it a bit more, rather than stayed the course. I suppose there is room for that next offseason with a projected $28 million in guarnatees, however I thought this offseason was a good time to trade prospects for bats. I think they really wanted Choo but underestimated the trade market. I think a lot of GMs did to an extent. Think of the prospects that were traded this offseason?
Jake Marisnick
Justin Nicolino
Alex Meyer
Wil Myers
Jake Odorizzi
Trevor May
Didi Gregorius
Trevor Bauer
Travis d’Arnaud
Noah Syndergaard
Some elite ones in that group.
Hugo Z Hackenbush
December 17th, 2012
3:16 pm
If we look back through the mists of time, we can dimly glimpse that storied year known as 2010, when the Braves’ opening day payroll was a whopping 83.89 million. As you might expect, they were truly awful that year…
Efrim
December 17th, 2012
3:18 pm
Got a lot of family and friends in NYC that are Mets fans… the majority are still reeling about Bernie Madoff.
Yeah, my brother is a diehard Mets fan and so is the rest of my family. I think they expected a $93 million dollar payroll for 2013 because(like Wren), that’s what they said it was going to be – no decrease. But it looks like they will fall into the same area the Braves are in – no player is worth it, so why spend it? Certainly sucks for both team’s fans.
Murph
December 17th, 2012
3:18 pm
I knew as much when they opened the off-season by reacquiring Jordan Schafer. Just been terrible from the get go.
I laughed when people raised a big stink over Schafer coming back. I said to myself “Murph, don’t let it get you down. He’s a backup. An afterthought. Now let’s go get a peanut buster parfait!”
Then, as I looked down at my big round belly after days and days of peanut buster parfaits, I started to get really nervous that, hey, maybe Schafer is one of the bigger offseason acquisitions.
I’ve since given up the peanut buster parfaits as a means of coping and now lay in the dark curled up in the fetal position, rocking myself to sleep.
phil
December 17th, 2012
3:19 pm
That’s mist?
Coach (2012 Fredi's Beisbol Fandango)
December 17th, 2012
3:19 pm
unbelievable
December 17th, 2012
3:14 pm
So was Omar Infante
Im very aware that Infante was a bench player, your point? Every team has bench players. Most playoff caliber teams dont look to fill their LF starting position with one. Infante is a very valuable utility player just as Bonifacio would be. However, most want him as a starter and thats a joke. Btw, Bonifacio has only had 1 season with an OPS over .650….Infante has had 6 seasons with an OPS over .750…You cant even begin to compare these two players offensively.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>..
Fredi Gonzalez want’s Bonifacio and the joke is on you
phil
December 17th, 2012
3:20 pm
big round belly and peanut buster parfaits….
a vision.
DAP
December 17th, 2012
3:21 pm
i think it is reasonable to expect emilio bonafacio to play about as well as jose constanza for the foreseeable future. so, im not sure why we would trade for bonafacio when we have constanza, unless we needed someone that could play middle infield, which i dont think we do.
phil
December 17th, 2012
3:23 pm
Constanza has two homers in small parts of two seasons….
He’ll do.
TennesseePaul
December 17th, 2012
3:24 pm
Opening day payroll for rostered players (players who actually contributed to the team, excluding players paid to not be on the team:
2010: $83.5M
2011: $83.47M (Kawakami in the minors)
2012: $83.5M (Lowe pitching for the Indians)
2013 isn’t shaping up to be much different.
A.P.
December 17th, 2012
3:25 pm
Every time I sign on here to check out the latest Braves news and I see people legitimately trying to make a case for giving up assets to get Bonafacio or Bourjos, I immediately go back to work. Rosterbation is plummeting to the likes of guys that might hit .250 with no power.
Murph
December 17th, 2012
3:26 pm
The peanut buster parfait: http://www.dairyqueen.com/us-en/Menu/Treats/Peanut-Buster-Parfait1/
Good for filling the empty spot left by a cheating girlfriend, a dog eaten by coyotes, and a GM who is scared to go all-in. Also can be used to patch leaky roofs and boats.
Coach (2012 Fredi's Beisbol Fandango)
December 17th, 2012
3:27 pm
Omar Infante was viewed a bench player/super utility back up until Cox gave him 500 at bats in 2010, Infante became an All-star and has been a starter ever since.
Emilio Bonifacio is viewed as a bench player/super utility back up………..
Fredi Gonzalez knows better
TennesseePaul
December 17th, 2012
3:30 pm
Fredi Gonzalez knows better…
From experience. He game him 500+ at bats and watched as Emilio struggled to hit .250 with a .600 OPS, a 61 OPS+.
TennesseePaul
December 17th, 2012
3:31 pm
should say, 500+ plate appearances.
phil
December 17th, 2012
3:31 pm
true but i prefer Flex-Seal….
unbelievable
December 17th, 2012
3:31 pm
Omar Infante was viewed a bench player/super utility back up until Cox gave him 500 at bats in 2010, Infante became an All-star and has been a starter ever since.Emilio Bonifacio is viewed as a bench player/super utility back up………..Fredi Gonzalez knows better – Coach
Thats laughable….
Efrim
December 17th, 2012
3:32 pm
2013 isn’t shaping up to be much different.
I really think they would of added Shin-Soo Choo’s $7 million easily if the trade fit. We’d then be around $89-90 million and I would feel a bit better about it, as the team would be fairly stacked too.
But once again, LF is treated like it’s much less important than other positions. Maybe we can just develop more corner outfield prospects?
Efrim
December 17th, 2012
3:33 pm
I’m okay with Bonifacio as a utlity infielder – however we’re pretty much set there. So, there is no room for the kid.
phil
December 17th, 2012
3:35 pm
We’re doomed…
Murph
December 17th, 2012
3:37 pm
Maybe we can just develop more corner outfield prospects?
Salt on the wound there, Efrim. Maybe you could squeeze the lemon that is Uggla on it while you’re at it.
TennesseePaul
December 17th, 2012
3:37 pm
I really think they would of added Shin-Soo Choo’s $7 million easily if the trade fit. We’d then be around $89-90 million and I would feel a bit better about it, as the team would be fairly stacked too.
Perhaps they were offering more prospects, but asking for money in return (for that $30M AAV player at midseason), hence other deals seemed more favorable.
Brava
December 17th, 2012
3:39 pm
Emilio Bonifacio is listed as the Jays starting 2B on their depth chart, Izturis as their utility player. I don’t see why the Braves would even be considering him if he’s as bad as some of you claim. My guess is, he’s not.
TennesseePaul
December 17th, 2012
3:40 pm
But once again, LF is treated like it’s much less important than other positions.
The last three years, plus this year, there’s been basically a $10M f*#kup buffer. LF is the equivalent personnel f*#kup buffer. Just that area on the payroll ledger and field where the FO can stuff mistakes, or confidently leave alone whilst boasting of the rest of the roster and payroll.
unbelievable
December 17th, 2012
3:40 pm
From experience. He game him 500+ at bats and watched as Emilio struggled to hit .250 with a .600 OPS, a 61 OPS+.
Yeah, I can see why Fredi would be jumping up and down to get him back. .252/.303/.308 61OPS+. Im actually afraid that Fredi does want him back and that he would give him another 500AB’s. Thats the scary part of all this.
TennesseePaul
December 17th, 2012
3:41 pm
So, there is no room for the kid.
That actually sounds like a very apt description of a Braves left fielder.
DAP
December 17th, 2012
3:44 pm
coach Omar Infante was viewed a bench player/super utility back up until Cox gave him 500 at bats in 2010, Infante became an All-star and has been a starter ever since.
500 ABs in 2010 was more because of necessity than free will. and onceinfante became a starter, how did that work out?
TennesseePaul
December 17th, 2012
3:44 pm
Yeah, I can see why Fredi would be jumping up…
unbelievable, intended my post to be interpreted in this manner: “Fredi Gonzalez knows better than to give him 500+ plate appearances from experience….”
unbelievable
December 17th, 2012
3:44 pm
I don’t see why the Braves would even be considering him if he’s as bad as some of you claim. My guess is, he’s not.
I guess the good thing is that we have 1642 AB’s that tell us he’s a .267/.329/.343 hitter. He can run and play multiple positions. His value is as a super utility bench player, not a starting LF’r
Brava
December 17th, 2012
3:46 pm
JIM BOWDEN @JimBowdenESPNxm
According to a source the Marlins would have interest in a Ricky Nolasco -for- Peter Bourjos type deal
Efrim
December 17th, 2012
3:46 pm
Perhaps they were offering more prospects, but asking for money in return (for that $30M AAV player at midseason), hence other deals seemed more favorable.
Hah! I swear, come July we will be paying more in prospects for the team to pay the remaining salary of that star LF…..
Just that area on the payroll ledger and field where the FO can stuff mistakes, or confidently leave alone whilst boasting of the rest of the roster and payroll.
Yup. They seem to concentrate on doing anything they can to build the team and forget about LF. Even going so far to moving Prado out there. And even this offseason, when it was crystal clear what they needed to go out and get – it’s December 17th and we’re talking about Francisco and Reed Johnson getting regular plate apperances and shuffling Martin Prado back and forth.
CB
December 17th, 2012
3:46 pm
I now picture Murph with Chris Farley’s voice and big round belly.
old man
December 17th, 2012
3:47 pm
Here are some guys on the Licey Tigers who played AAA or MLB ball last year, and the difference in OPS points. From this, you might argue that Dominican pitching is somewhere between AAA and MLB. There are a couple of good top level prospects who could not come close to matching their AAA numbers:
Timothy Joseph Federowicz (AAA) -421
Ronny Paulino -85
Jhonatan Solano +49
Carlos Manuel Triunfel -184
Juan Francisco +224
Hanley Ramirez -15
Dee Gordon +196
Mike Olt (AAA) -163
Jurickson Profar (AAA) -319
Erick Aybar -80
Brian Cavazos-Galvez (AAA) -316
Engel Beltre (AAA) +32
Leonys Martin (AAA) -306
Some of these guys are not great players, but if you play MLB ball, and then your OPS goes down in a different league, that says a little something about the other league’s pitching. It’s not chopped liver.
Brava
December 17th, 2012
3:48 pm
unbelievable, obviously, Wren sees a fit as a starting LF and leadoff man. That’s what has been reported.
ncscoots
December 17th, 2012
3:49 pm
round belly and peanut buster parfaits….a vision.
Better that than Emilio Bonifacio in LF. Less than a vision.
Murph
December 17th, 2012
3:50 pm
I now picture Murph with Chris Farley’s voice and big round belly.
Close your eyes and imagine me in a little coat, living in a van down by the river, after being beat out by Patrick Swayze for the job opening at Chippendales… oh, and the ground is covered with empty peanut buster parfait cups.
Scarily accurate.