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ncscoots
December 17th, 2012
11:53 am
EOF will get considerably more than 2 year $6 million if he has another good year
I’d be shocked if he got it from the Braves, though. If that’s the new reality for relievers, better to trade him before FA.
don
December 17th, 2012
11:56 am
Why didn’t Wren try to get Bourjos for Hanson instead of getting nothing?
Brava
December 17th, 2012
11:56 am
Can’t get here soon enough…
Atlanta Braves @Braves
While the kiddos countdown to #Christmas, we’re pumped that it’s only 55 days until pitchers and catchers report! #SpringTraining #Braves
Rick C
December 17th, 2012
12:00 pm
don, Walden certainly is not “nothing.” And as I pointed out to you when you asked this same question on another blog (we all know how much you love to post the same thing over and over), Bourjos was not necessarily available when that trade was made. Signing Hamilton made Bourjos now expendable.
TheOnlyBravesFan
December 17th, 2012
12:00 pm
I wonder if I’m alone in thinking that both the Jays and Royals moves were good ones…
EOF will get considerably more than 2 year $6 million
Yep… should be able to beat Affeldt. 3/22.
Brava
December 17th, 2012
12:01 pm
Buster Olney @Buster_ESPN
Jays’ rotation in ‘13 lines up to be, in some order: Dickey, Morrow, Buehrle, Josh Johnson, Romero. That’s pretty impressive.
Lew
December 17th, 2012
12:02 pm
scoots – Maybe he won’ tget it from the Braves next year – especially if some of the Kids projected for the pen are ready – but do you seriously believe they’ll trade him in the middle of a pennant race or that the return would be so huge for an about to be Free Agent Middle Reliever? Cause middle relievers are what teams look for at the trade deadline, right?
TheOnlyBravesFan
December 17th, 2012
12:04 pm
If you really thought I was serious with my Minor for Bourjos proposal…
TheOnlyBravesFan
December 17th, 2012
12:04 pm
better to trade him (EOF) before FA.
Indeed.
Why didn’t Wren try to get Bourjos for Hanson instead of getting nothing?
Walden is something… I just think that Frank didn’t want to end up “stuck” with him (why would he have been?) and so moved Hanson as soon as possible… if he’d waited, probably could have gotten Bourjos and Walden for Hanson plus a mid-lvl prospect like Spruill or Gilmartin
ncscoots
December 17th, 2012
12:06 pm
or that the return would be so huge for an about to be Free Agent Middle Reliever
Who said anything about “huge”? You don’t have to get much to beat nothing, which is what they’ll have if he reaches FA with the club. They certainly won’t give him a qualifying offer.
As to the other, if there are other options on the club to take his innings, middle of a pennant race or not, they can fire and forget. Make that decision when it comes to it, whether it’s tomorrow or July.
brian
December 17th, 2012
12:07 pm
I didn’t say that the Braves would sign EOF long term. Braves have typically gone for cheaper relievers under team control.
Lew
December 17th, 2012
12:08 pm
Thought you were serious? So you mean all the stupid trade proposals you’ve made in your 300 – 400 posts per blog were jokes? I gess that means we on’t have to read any of your posts from here on out because we already will know in advance that they’re in jest, right? Or maybe we should read them for comic relief?
TennesseePaul
December 17th, 2012
12:08 pm
if he’d waited, probably could have gotten Bourjos and Walden for Hanson plus a mid-lvl prospect like Spruill or Gilmartin
More garbage.
You really think Wren is the only one involved int he deal making, and that he is short sited? Wren got Walden because a) that’s was the best offer available for a huge injury risk pitcher with a declining fastball and b) because that was what was available.
Further note, Hanson was a non-tender candidate. The option was, get Walden (or some other lesser deal in their eyes) or get nothing.
Lew
December 17th, 2012
12:10 pm
scoots – Yeah, whatever.
TennesseePaul
December 17th, 2012
12:11 pm
Who said anything about “huge”?
Scoots, after an off-season riddled with TOBF trading Teheran at the drop of a hat for bench players, its forgivable if one might slip the term “huge” into a deal for a middle reliever.
TheOnlyBravesFan
December 17th, 2012
12:11 pm
Further note, Hanson was a non-tender candidate.
I was told that Hanson was much too valuable to even be considered one.
DAP
December 17th, 2012
12:11 pm
TOBF, you working on that list of 25 relievers better than o’flarety over the last 2 years? i was just looking at his last two year and its amazing what he has done. a 300 OPS+. 1.31 ERA. thats better than kimbrel over that period. fantastic numbers.
Brava
December 17th, 2012
12:11 pm
Buster Olney @Buster_ESPN
The Indians are making a push in their effort to land Nick Swisher.
Murph
December 17th, 2012
12:12 pm
Are these crazy contracts signed this offseason going to drive up the price of the qualifying offer next offseason? When is that number calculated?
ncscoots
December 17th, 2012
12:12 pm
its forgivable if one might slip the term “huge” into a deal for a middle reliever.
Challenge! on “huge”.
Lew
December 17th, 2012
12:13 pm
TenPaul – They were never going to non tender Hanson no matter how much you or others figured they should. You’re likely right that Waden is the best they could get for him, but non tender? Even you know that’s BS.
Lew
December 17th, 2012
12:15 pm
“Challenege on huge” – yep, definitely needs to go into arbitration along with “premium”.
ncscoots
December 17th, 2012
12:16 pm
Are these crazy contracts signed this offseason going to drive up the price of the qualifying offer next offseason? When is that number calculated?
You could calculate it at the beginning of the season, for that matter. It’s the top 125 salaries that count, and I wouldn’t think that those would change at any point in the season. Salary increases built into existing contracts probably has more of an effect that a few new FA contracts.
But I think “up” is probably the operative word for the qualifying offer next year.
DAP
December 17th, 2012
12:19 pm
brian Braves have typically gone for cheaper relievers under team control.
in my opinion, this stopped becoming typical when frank wren took over. im glad about that, too. i think one big short coming of john s. in the later years was putting together a decent bullpen. i still have nightmares about dan kolb.
craig kimbrel is on the mound in a one run game. he just walked a guy. throws an 85 MPH fastball middle in, which gets crushed by a random pinch hitter. as the crowd explodes in cheers (were on the road), kimbrel looks into camera and begins to cackle, an evil, maniacal laugh. as the camera zooms in, he reaches up under his chin and pulls of a very lifelike mask…its actually dan kolb! i wake up in a cold sweat, and have to go look up kimbrel’s k/9 to soothe myself.
ncscoots
December 17th, 2012
12:22 pm
i wake up in a cold sweat, and have to go look up kimbrel’s k/9 to soothe myself.
I hope it’s still soothing when he gets $13MM in arbitration.
Lew
December 17th, 2012
12:22 pm
UP is the operative word going forward way past next year with those TV contracts being signed. Sanity is a concept that might be best described by paraphrasing Brian William’s quote about the last Trump foot in mouth incident . Payroll past the last exit to sanity miles back.
Lew
December 17th, 2012
12:23 pm
And just because that was in response to scoots and realizing he loves corrections – that should have been passed and not past.
unbelievable
December 17th, 2012
12:23 pm
Why didn’t Wren try to get Bourjos for Hanson instead of getting nothing?
Two reasons. 1. Walden gives us another big RH’d arm out of the pen 2. Bourjos doesnt upgrade our team.
TennesseePaul
December 17th, 2012
12:25 pm
You’re likely right that Waden is the best they could get for him, but non tender? Even you know that’s BS.
I don’t know about that. The trade occurred just before the non-tender deadline. I think there is a reason for that. I do not believe they “wanted” to tender him a contract. Perhaps they might have if they thought a trade would take a few more days to come together. But they obviously had no plans for him in the Braves org for 2013. At best I put his “tenderability” with the Braves 50/50.
Scoots, I qualify “huge” as any team trading a no-stick bench player for Teheran. The team getting Teheran got something “huge” in return.
TheOnlyBravesFan
December 17th, 2012
12:27 pm
Kimbrel, Sean Marshall, Papelbon, Greg Holland, Chapman, David Roberston, David Hernandez, Putz, Sergio Romo, Kenley Jansen, Rafael Betancourt, Jim Johnson, Motte, Mike Adams, Casey Jannsen, Matt Thornton, Daren Oliver, Clippard, Rodney, Uehara, Hanhrahan, Stammen, Scott Downs, Perkins, Aaron Crow, Brian Wilson, Grant Balfour, Grilli, Gregerson, Pestano, Frieri
There’s 31….
Brava
December 17th, 2012
12:27 pm
Ken Rosenthal @Ken_Rosenthal
#Tigers announce that their deal with Anibal Sanchez is official. Five years, $80M plus a club option for 2018.
Brava
December 17th, 2012
12:27 pm
DKnobler @DKnobler
Next up for the Tigers: Trading Rick Porcello. I’m told they had almost a dozen calls within 3 hours of news of Sanchez deal.
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Lew
December 17th, 2012
12:28 pm
TenPaul – Nah, they were not going to have a problem getting a return for him. Maybe not a huge one, but the fact they got one that actually filled one of their needs and seemingly had no problem doing it.
ncscoots
December 17th, 2012
12:31 pm
Trading Rick Porcello. I’m told they had almost a dozen calls within 3 hours of news of Sanchez deal.
There’s a guy I’d love to see acquired by the Braves. “A dozen calls” seems low, frankly.
TheOnlyBravesFan
December 17th, 2012
12:31 pm
TOBF trading Teheran at the drop of a hat for bench players
Choo and Upton aren’t bench players…
The timing of the Hanson trade intrigued me too… but he was still “a very valuable #5 and affordable at only 4mil. He will be tendered.” If he was going to be tendered, why the rush then? May explain why we only got Walden for him and didn’t wait around and see if Bourjos would become available.
MikeInFl
December 17th, 2012
12:33 pm
There’s a guy I’d love to see acquired by the Braves.
Yeah, he’s pretty tall.
Lew
December 17th, 2012
12:34 pm
TOBF – What criteria are you using? xFIP or some other alphabet soup formula? Velocity? How many k/9? What exactly?
TennesseePaul
December 17th, 2012
12:35 pm
Nah, they were not going to have a problem getting a return for him.
Who said a “problem”… just saying if the paperwork, or details had to be worked out and it looked like it would last past the non-tender date, they’d have tendered him.
I think they started looking at moving him a long time ago. I wouldn’t be surprised to learn that many of the first conversations with other teams about potential off-season moves were about Hanson. They would have had months to gauge interest, solicit offers, analyze them, counter them and conclude on the best before the tender deadline… which they did. And I believe they did so because they did not wish to tender him a contract unless it was absolutely necessary.
They ended up trading him for a middle reliever. Yes, Walden improves the team, but still, it’s a middle reliever. That’s not a “huge” return for a starting pitcher. That too speaks to the value of the player and the plans the team had for him 2013 and beyond.
TheOnlyBravesFan
December 17th, 2012
12:35 pm
but it’s not like we just dumped Hanson… we got 4 years of a really good reliever in exchange for a guy who may be non-tendered next year if he sukks again.
Murph
December 17th, 2012
12:35 pm
scoots, why the love for Porcello? I don’t know anything about the guy other than what I can get from his baseball reference dot com page, but he doesn’t seem all that special.
Gives up lots of hits, lots of runs, doesn’t strike many out… he’s young, but other than that, I’m not seeing it.
ncscoots
December 17th, 2012
12:35 pm
Yeah, he’s pretty tall.
Brava
December 17th, 2012
12:36 pm
David O’Brien @ajcbraves
#Braves 3B Juan Francisco in D.R. Winter League now hitting .304 w/ 9 HR, 29 RBI in 33 g, .358 OBP, .934 OPS, 37 K in 125 AB
Lew
December 17th, 2012
12:36 pm
Why the rush? You can actually look at all the deals that have gone down since then, see the prices of contracts and the return in trade material and then actually ask why Wren moved quickly to trade Hanson and sign Upton?
Looking at the pine needles again and ignoring the forest in front of you – but what’s new about that?
TennesseePaul
December 17th, 2012
12:37 pm
May explain why we only got Walden for him and didn’t wait around and see if Bourjos would become available.
I don’t think the Braves truly wanted Bourjos. They have quite a number of guys who can play defense and not hit already on the team, no reason to use a trading chip to acquire more.
David O'Brien
December 17th, 2012
12:37 pm
Francisco in D.R. Winter League now hitting .304 w/ 9 HR, 29 RBI in 33 games, .358 OBP, .934 OPS, 37 K in 125 AB
Brava
December 17th, 2012
12:38 pm
DKnobler @DKnobler
Carlos Pena agrees to terms with Astros. One year, $2.9 million, plus $1.4 million in incentives. http://cbsprt.co/U7yu1R
Lew
December 17th, 2012
12:39 pm
TenPaul – I absoltuely agree they decided long ago he didn’t fit into their plans for this year. Still, it doesnt mean he would ever have had to be non tendered.
TheOnlyBravesFan
December 17th, 2012
12:40 pm
mixture of everything, Lew… some from people I’ve seen play, having good K/BB ratios, WHIP, xFIP a little more important than ERA… also like to see LOB% and overall WAR
(btw, my rankings account for 2011-2 seasons)
ncscoots
December 17th, 2012
12:40 pm
why the love for Porcello?
High-quality groundball pitcher with a truly horrific defense behind him in Detroit. He’s one of the few pitch-to-contact guys that I actually like, because he has the pitches to induce really weak contact. A lot.
At his age and upside, with a good defense behind him? Good chance for him to be pretty good.
Lew
December 17th, 2012
12:40 pm
Also, trading him quickly like they did, freed up the money they would have had to pay him and gave them more $$$$$ earlier on in their own quest for the elusive LF paragon. Maybe if they had Hobbits to send on the quest?
TheOnlyBravesFan
December 17th, 2012
12:41 pm
disagree on the not-hitting part for Bourjos… but whatever
When he’s been a full-time starter, he’s hit.
TennesseePaul
December 17th, 2012
12:44 pm
Still, it doesnt mean he would ever have had to be non tendered.
“had to be”? I merely postulate the event would have only occurred if no suitable value was found for him. I don’t think the FO had any plans for him in 2013 and beyond, so no possibility of trade then no tender… which is why I think they started working on it a long time ago. He wasn’t going to be in the rotation if no trade could be made. He wouldn’t be in the pen. He wouldn’t be in the minors. And despite the cries of some drive by bloggers, he would not be taking over catching duties from McCann.
Lew
December 17th, 2012
12:44 pm
Why is ERA not improtant? Especially for a pitcher who rarely comes in to mop up foir another pitcher and starts and finsihes his own innings.
I’d say the fact he;s given up less than 3 runs per nine in all but his first full season, less than 2 runs per nine last year and less than i run per nine in 2011 are pretty damned significant. And his WHIP is nothing to sneeze at, either. Just because he doesn’t strike out more than 9 pr 9 doesn’;t make him any less effective.
JC Brave
December 17th, 2012
12:46 pm
I wish there was information leaked every day from the Braves’ FO.
This waiting is killing me.
Murph
December 17th, 2012
12:47 pm
Correct me if I’m wrong, but if I recall correctly, when the Braves traded Hanson Bourjos wasn’t available due to the Angels’ loss of Torii Hunter.
And I also think the Braves were either going to trade Hanson or non-tender him. I don’t think he fit into their plans and I also don’t think they wanted to chance carrying his $4mil+ salary into 2013. No, it’s not like that $4mil would have broken their bank, but…. we have no idea what Wren had in the works at the time. That $4mil could have been the difference in being able to afford another trade or two that he thought he was going to make.
TheOnlyBravesFan
December 17th, 2012
12:47 pm
Why is ERA not improtant?
Did I say that?
Lew
December 17th, 2012
12:48 pm
TenPaul -Whatever. He might have won the $200 million lottery. He might have had a turnaround season. He might have decided to run for office and eventually become President of the U.S. He could have gotten hit by a car over the winter and never played baseball again.
What happened was he was traded and the Braves picked up a piece they needed – a RH reliever with some velocity. Anything else nets you nothing but air.
TheOnlyBravesFan
December 17th, 2012
12:50 pm
If I have two pitchers with similar ERAs, walk rates, WHIP, etc… but one guy strikes out nearly 3-4more batters per 9… I’m picking him. That hurts EOF in my rankings some. A reliever who can miss bats and rely on the defense less often is better.
Lew
December 17th, 2012
12:50 pm
TOBF – Watever. Of course you are right. Rant on with your various obsessions. From here on out I have nothing to say to you.
DAP
December 17th, 2012
12:51 pm
TOBF Kimbrel, Sean Marshall, Papelbon, Greg Holland, Chapman, David Roberston, David Hernandez, Putz, Sergio Romo, Kenley Jansen, Rafael Betancourt, Jim Johnson, Motte, Mike Adams, Casey Jannsen, Matt Thornton, Daren Oliver, Clippard, Rodney, Uehara, Hanhrahan, Stammen, Scott Downs, Perkins, Aaron Crow, Brian Wilson, Grant Balfour, Grilli, Gregerson, Pestano, Frieri
There’s 31….
31 guys who have had a better k/9 than o’flarety, but not guys who are better relief pitchers.
he’s easily been better than brian wilson, who barely pitched last year. hes better than darren oliver. hes better than jim johnson. better than aaron crow. better than jason grilli. better than ernesto frieri. and better than craig stammen.
theres 7 of the 31 you named o’flarety has been batter than over the last 2 years, putting him squarely in the top 25! he might better than a couple of the others, too.
DAP
December 17th, 2012
12:59 pm
TOBF, the only stats all those guys beat o’flarety in is k/9, right? o’flarety bested all of them in ERA and ERA+, i believe. bettered several of them in WHIP and WAR. these things are debatable, but at hte very least it seems like you name 31 of the very best relievers in baseball and tried your darndest to keep o’flarety out. but, you have to at least admit he was competitive to be on that list you just made. which, in turn would make me think that if someone listed him as a top 25 reliever, at the very least, it wouldnt be ridiculous, as you are making it seem.
Brava
December 17th, 2012
12:59 pm
Jon Heyman @JonHeymanCBS
#astros need to be overwhelmed to trade jed lowrie. they’ve talked to teams about bud norris (#cards, #rangers 2 of em)
Efrim
December 17th, 2012
12:59 pm
AA should get his arse handed to him for this deal. It’s a shame that anyone would nail Moore for this, yet not AA. That’s horse-sh!t, imo.
David O'Brien
December 17th, 2012
1:01 pm
I don’t think we lose much by swapping Walden for EOF… — TOBF
The Braves have already said they’re not trading O’Flaherty. And did you really say all the Braves lose is $3M in payroll if they traded O’Flaherty? And if you indeed said that, did you watch O’Flaherty pitch the past two years?
Brava
December 17th, 2012
1:01 pm
Brian McTaggart @brianmctaggart
The reported signing of Carlos Pena probably ends the idea of Berkman reunion in Houston.
David O'Brien
December 17th, 2012
1:04 pm
I mentioned at Winter Meetings the possibility of Braves using Prado both at 3B and LF, sharing duties w/ Francisco at 3B and w/ Reed Johnson in LF. As the weeks pass, seems like that possibility grows.
Braves are still exploring potential trades for a 3B or LF, but I don’t think they’ll overpay. Rather than give up too much, I think they’d rather see what they’ve got in spring, how Francisco looks at 3B, etc., and make a deal later if need be. Of course, that could change in a heartbeat if someone backs down on trade demand for a player such as Fowler, or the Blue Jays decide to trade Bonifacio, or someone else becomes available not previously thought to be available.
DAP
December 17th, 2012
1:05 pm
TOBF If I have two pitchers with similar ERAs
thats fine, i just want to point out that o’flarety’s ERA is not similar to most of the pitchers you just listed. its significantly better, over the last 2 seasons.
Efrim
December 17th, 2012
1:05 pm
Porcello is a sinkerballer and Simmons is a good thing for all pitchers that rely on the groundball. Hudson loves the kid, I’m sure. He doesn’t strike anyone out, but the velocity is there and the ball stays within the ballpark. I’m still hopoeful for mid-rotation upside from Porcello.
2 years $6mil? why would that be bad for o’flarety? id be surprised if he signed for that little, sounds like a steal to me. the braves might have more pressing needs for that money, though.
Mike Adams got two years, $12 million from the Phillies. That’s $6 million a year for a middle reliever. Amaro can do that sort of deal with his absurd payroll, but the Braves should never sniff that sort of a multi year commitment for a set up man.
kenhotlanta
December 17th, 2012
1:07 pm
How did George_George get ” addicking” by the Blog Police…sounds dirty to me.
Efrim
December 17th, 2012
1:07 pm
Rather than give up too much, I think they’d rather see what they’ve got in spring, how Francisco looks at 3B, etc., and make a deal later if need be.
But how many significant players are dealt in the last week of March? Never seems like there are many – usually out of options guys.
Efrim
December 17th, 2012
1:08 pm
thats fine, i just want to point out that o’flarety’s ERA is not similar to most of the pitchers you just listed. its significantly better, over the last 2 seasons.
More eyeballin’?
DAP
December 17th, 2012
1:10 pm
efrim, i thought you meant $6mil for two years, originally. like, $3mil per, which i thought sounded like a steal for o’flarety.
JasonInFL
December 17th, 2012
1:12 pm
Phils are weaker than they have been. So are the Mets, Yanks, and Red Sox. Braves are an impact bat in LF away from being a legit WS threat. If there is an offseason to overpay, I will continue to espouse that it is this one. But, overpay and get robbed are two different things. For example, the Minor/Delgado for Fowler, is well, ridiculous to say the least. So, as long as prices continue to be driven by hallucinogenic thoughts, FW will probably stand his ground.
Lew
December 17th, 2012
1:12 pm
I think that the real question is how many significant LFers are still out there and available now or in March?
TheOnlyBravesFan
December 17th, 2012
1:12 pm
EOF beats them all in ERA and ERA+, but some of these guys have better whips, h/9, k/9 etc…
I’ve watched EOF play, but our bullpen is still strong without him… JV, Walden, Avilan can all perform well… our bullpen won’t be in shambles without him. If it would be, then we’ll be in big trouble for 2014 on.
DAP
December 17th, 2012
1:13 pm
efrim, More eyeballin’?
ha, no. EOF posted a 1.31 ERA the last 2 seasons, and a 300 ERA+. most of the guys TOBF listed are in the 2s, when it comes to ERA over the last 2 seasons. many of them have ERAs a full run higher. thats not “close” like TOBF is describing.
JC Brave
December 17th, 2012
1:13 pm
The Peter Bourjos obsession is beyond creepy now… Who’ll be next? DeJesus? Wow…
TheOnlyBravesFan
December 17th, 2012
1:15 pm
similar xFIPs then
AA should get his arse handed to him for this deal.
Why? It looks like a fair deal to me, just like what the Royals did. Both hurt, but make the team better.
DAP
December 17th, 2012
1:16 pm
TOBF, but some of these guys have better whips, h/9, k/9 etc…
and some of them dont. i dont think ROF being a top 25 reliever is something to “LOL” about. thats all im saying. even the assertion that the bullpen would be good without him wont get an argument from me.
TheOnlyBravesFan
December 17th, 2012
1:17 pm
but ERA is not the main stat I look at…. periphs (especially that K/BB ratio) matter the most to me for relievers
A.P.
December 17th, 2012
1:21 pm
I might be missing something, but isn’t era the most important stat? K rates and whip are nice, but I’ll take the reliever that allows the least amount of runs everyday. With that in mind EOF is definitely better than the majority of your 31 TOBF
Mixxo
December 17th, 2012
1:21 pm
In other words….we’re going to sit on our haunches and hope for the best.
Everyone will be saying, ‘….wait till Mac gets back, wait till Mac gets back…’
Sickening really.
Brava
December 17th, 2012
1:33 pm
Nick Camino @CaminoTribe
Source: Nick Swisher coming to Cleveland tonight. Having dinner with #Indians team president Mark Shapiro this evening.
JC Brave
December 17th, 2012
1:33 pm
In other words….we’re going to sit on our haunches and hope for the best.
Everyone will be saying, ‘….wait till Mac gets back, wait till Mac gets back…’
Sickening really.
It’s still early [this one is my favorite] – It’s only April/May/June [this one is just so moronic] – Stop overreacting! [I'll give 'em this one] – The sky is not falling! [this one would be true] – They’ll get it going – etc.
Brava
December 17th, 2012
1:34 pm
Susan Slusser @susanslusser
Industry source tells me #Athletics likely to explore trade options for SS now Drew off market. #RedSox offer was quite a bit more than A’s.
ncscoots
December 17th, 2012
1:35 pm
but I’ll take the reliever that allows the least amount of runs everyday
As long as one keeps in mind that relievers also give up runs credited to other pitchers. I think that’s one reason that ERA has fallen out of favor as a yardstick for relievers.
(Plus there are other ways to judge a pitcher’s effectiveness that take into account other factors that ERA may not.)
Threadkiller
December 17th, 2012
1:38 pm
JC Brave..Next up is Adam Dunn!!
nolie
December 17th, 2012
1:38 pm
no way Hanson was a non-tender candidate. sigh
Threadkiller
December 17th, 2012
1:39 pm
JC Brave..Next up is Adam Dunn! hehehe
Threadkiller
December 17th, 2012
1:39 pm
JC Brave..Next up is Adam Dunn! hehehe
ncscoots
December 17th, 2012
1:41 pm
sharing duties w/ Francisco at 3B and w/ Reed Johnson in LF. As the weeks pass, seems like that possibility grows.
That’s disturbing. That not only seems sub-optimal on an everyday basis, but it weakens a fairly suspect bench at the same time.
Brava
December 17th, 2012
1:41 pm
Ken Rosenthal @Ken_Rosenthal
Spoke with Lance Berkman. Still undecided about playing in 2013. Chance to be voluntary assistant coach at Rice. Possibility intrigues him.
jeffrey d
December 17th, 2012
1:42 pm
I wonder who’s next up
nolie
December 17th, 2012
1:47 pm
gee I thought it was so highly unlikely that they would not sign two starting OFers with all that money?
ccrider
December 17th, 2012
1:47 pm
DOB, the only need I see is a left handed pinch hitter, with Prado, Simmons, Upton, Uggla, R. Johnson, Laird, Meija, and starters Heyward, Freeman, Francisco and McCann(when he returns) and I presume R. Pena. The Braves need a switch or lefthanded hitter( thus the interest in Bonifacio)
Brava
December 17th, 2012
1:48 pm
Ken Rosenthal @Ken_Rosenthal
Berkman has spoken of retiring to spend more time with his family. #Astros, even with C. Pena, open to his return. Others interested too.
old man
December 17th, 2012
1:54 pm
DOB, my read exactly. Not very sexy approach, but a lot of teams would view it as an enviable position to be in: all set to go, but ready to rob someone in a deal if it’s offered.
old man
December 17th, 2012
1:54 pm
DOB, my read exactly. Not a very sexy approach, but a lot of teams would view it as an enviable position to be in: all set to go, but ready to rob someone in a deal if it’s offered.
nolie
December 17th, 2012
1:54 pm
Berkman’s slash line is better than Chipper’s except for a few points of BA, but he’ll prollt never get in the Hall if he retires now, just not enough counting numbers. great hitter though
Brava
December 17th, 2012
1:55 pm
DKnobler @DKnobler
Cubs announce 1-year deal with Ian Stewart