In last year on HOF ballot, case made for ‘Murph’

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Tom O'Hawke

December 17th, 2012
12:36 am

Of course, it IS the NFL… they can lose anywhere, also.

Ward

December 17th, 2012
12:37 am

We will have to wait, and see this week, what happens after that? It should be either an interesting week, or a silent one again.

TheOnlyBravesFan

December 17th, 2012
12:37 am

havent won in Atlanta yet, toughest place to come in and win since 2008. I feel real confident that the Falcons can win at home, even against the Niners. On the road vs. them or the Pack, I’d be very doubtful.

We need this! Good night, denizens.

cabravesfan

December 17th, 2012
12:38 am

Tom-

I know you we’re serious. And I agree that they can lose anywhere too. But the Niners always play better with better competition. Next week should be as good as this week- hopefully with the same result

Ward

December 17th, 2012
12:40 am

TOBF – Good night my (Denizen friend)…….little humor

Tom O'Hawke

December 17th, 2012
12:40 am

Is it Seattle, next week? Where?

cabravesfan

December 17th, 2012
12:42 am

Niners have not played he falcons since 2010. They were a different team then. Infinitely better now

cabravesfan

December 17th, 2012
12:44 am

Tom-

At Seattle

Ward

December 17th, 2012
12:45 am

Well, you all have a good one! Talk tomorrow, darn crying shame the Cowboy won today. Three way tie pathetic……Peace my friends, and “Go!!!!!Braves!!!!!!”

Tom O'Hawke

December 17th, 2012
12:48 am

You should be fine their, LAdy, as long as they don’t have replacement refs. Now get some sleep! :)

cabravesfan

December 17th, 2012
12:50 am

Pats were72-14 at home since 2002…

Venice Jim

December 17th, 2012
12:51 am

No sleep yet – Homeland

Tom O'Hawke

December 17th, 2012
12:53 am

It’s almost 10:00 pm out there. Don’t know how you guys do it.

Venice Jim

December 17th, 2012
12:57 am

And I have to work at 9:00 every day this week – an unimaginable schedule (well, since summer, at least)…

cabravesfan

December 17th, 2012
12:59 am

I’m just hoping it rains in the morning so I don’t have to wrk out

Heath

December 17th, 2012
7:17 am

Tom:

Sorry I had to get off so abruptly last night… That whole sleep thing just gets in the way. So where are you now?

TheOnlyBravesFan

December 17th, 2012
7:22 am

sleep? What’s that? :D

keyLargo

December 17th, 2012
8:09 am

Monday Night Football

#27 ranked Tenn Titans (4-9) vs #25 ranked NY Jets (6-7).

WHOOPIE!!!

This is almost as good as yesterdays Game of the week that Fox settled for. Seattle vs Buffalo.

The Falcons are almost never on a National Broadcast.

TheOnlyBravesFan

December 17th, 2012
8:11 am

Tim Brown ‏@TBrownYahoo
Stephen Drew agrees to one-year, $9.5-million contract with Red Sox, according to @JonHeymanCBS. Pending physical.

CB

December 17th, 2012
8:19 am

9.5mil for Stephen Drew? Mediocrity pays

richbrave

December 17th, 2012
8:25 am

How was that kl? Enjoyable?

richbrave

December 17th, 2012
8:28 am

“….CB
December 17th, 2012
8:19 am

9.5mil for Stephen Drew? Mediocrity pays…..”

I’d say these new t.v. deals rule. They’re driving up the price of everything.

David O'Brien

December 17th, 2012
9:20 am

The Chipper Jones entry in ESPN panel’s Top 100 players of all time:

49. Chipper Jones, 3B/LF

Career: 1993-2012, Braves
Fun fact: Record-tying 14 extra-base hits in 14 straight games in 2006

Second perhaps only to Mickey Mantle among switch hitters and one of the greatest third basemen of all time (more career RBI than either Mike Schmidt or George Brett), Jones hit .303 lifetime, and won the NL batting title (.364) in 2008.

One of only 14 players in the history of the game to top .300/.400/.500 in career BA/OBP/slugging percentage (.303/.401/.529).

keyLargo

December 17th, 2012
9:24 am

Rich – I guess I should break down and buy an NFL TV package but I spend too much time already watching the boob tube. It just doesn’t seem right that the Falcons are doing so well and I haven’t seen them but once this year. I live 150 miles south of Miami and because of the rules protecting the Dolphins rights, I get Seattle vs Buffalo yesterday after the Dolphins game. You’re a thousand miles north of me and I bet you had absolutely no interest in that game.

David O'Brien

December 17th, 2012
9:25 am

And here’s the Greg Maddux entry at No. 13 overall in ESPN’s Top 100 players of all time

13. Greg Maddux, RHP
Career: 1986-2008, Cubs, Braves, others
Fun fact: Won four consecutive Cy Youngs

Bud Black, who had the good fortune to manage Greg Maddux and David Wells in San Diego, observed that the two pitchers had a common philosophy. “They believe in strikes,” Black said, “and they believe in them often.”

Combine an encyclopedic knowledge of hitters with a natural fearlessness and a repeatable delivery, and you have a four-time Cy Young recipient and 355-game winner who will sail into Cooperstown on his first try. –Jerry Crasnick

ncscoots

December 17th, 2012
9:27 am

Personally, I see the Mike Adams deal as even more insane that Drew or Victorino or Napoli. $6MM for a setup guy? For two years? Come on.

ncscoots

December 17th, 2012
9:30 am

One of only 14 players in the history of the game

And you still get folks here who will trash him. Hard to figure.

Lew

December 17th, 2012
9:33 am

scoots -After the last few days, haven’t you realized that insanity is reigning supreme?

David O'Brien

December 17th, 2012
9:39 am

DOB. Thin skin? — George_George

Nah, if I did I wouldn’t last long doing this.

It’s just that I see through the phoniness of some, and fake naivety used to disguise mean-spirited comments is a real pet peeve of mine. And i don’t mind calling people on it, the ones who lean on it repeatedly. Fortunately there are relatively few such commenters who’ve frequented the blog on any sort of regular basis.

TennesseePaul

December 17th, 2012
9:42 am

One of only 14 players in the history of the game to top .300/.400/.500

3-4-5…. a triangle. It’s awesome how so much of baseball falls out into 3’s.

David O'Brien

December 17th, 2012
9:46 am

“One of only 14 players in the history of the game”

And you still get folks here who will trash him. Hard to figure. — ncscoots

And judged to be one of the top 50 players in major league history — well over a century of baseball. Yet, as you pointed out, there are Braves fans here who spent much of the last half of his career criticizing him at every opportunity.

Efrim

December 17th, 2012
9:47 am

Personally, I see the Mike Adams deal as even more insane that Drew or Victorino or Napoli. $6MM for a setup guy? For two years? Come on.

Pretty sure a few people here would have no issues with the Braves handing that sort of a deal to Eric O’Flaherty.

I think those types of deals can only be given out by the richest teams. The Braves should never hand out a multi year deal to a middle reliever. Just stupid. Relievers are year to year – even the best of them. Totally fine going through arbitration with Kimbrel too.

VaBravesFan

December 17th, 2012
9:50 am

RedSox Trade away Adrian Gonzalez, Josh Beckett, and Carl Crawford and there big contracts, and then come sign a bunch of veteran guys still. Alot are overpays and have some major concerns. If I’m a RedSox fan I wouldn’t be to happy about how things have gone. Would have rather seen more young players given chances or brought in.

Shane Victorino, age 32, 3 years 39 million

David Ortiz, age 37, 2 years 26 million

Mike Napoli, age 31, 3 years 39 million

Ryan Dempster, age 35, 2 years 26.5 million

Steven Drew, age 29, 1 year 9.5 million

Jonny Gomes, age 31, 2 years 10 million

David Ross, age 36, 2 years 6.2 million

Koji Uehera, age 38, 1 year 4.25 million

TheOnlyBravesFan

December 17th, 2012
9:50 am

Chipper couldn’t hit .400/.500/600…. bum

;)

TheOnlyBravesFan

December 17th, 2012
9:54 am

Pretty sure a few people here would have no issues with the Braves handing that sort of a deal to Eric O’Flaherty.

He’s a Top 25 reliever! LOL

VaBravesFan

December 17th, 2012
9:54 am

Chipper is the best, he was the 1st player I ever seen hit a homerun (of course on TBS!), and my grampa got a me Chipper Jones baseball card (my 1st card ever) TBS is really the only reason I became a baseball and Braves fan really. I may be 25, but my room still has Chipper/Braves stuff everywhere lol….

VaBravesFan

December 17th, 2012
9:57 am

I’d probably offer EOF 2 years 7 million at most, can’t invest but so much in to a reliever. He can either accept the security, or risk having a bad season or injury. In which he’d be in line for another 1 year contract at a low salary.

Lew

December 17th, 2012
10:04 am

TOBF – %$#& off.

As to the .400, .500, .600 thing – Ted Williams in 1941 – .406, .553, .735, 1.287 with a 235 OPS

Lew

December 17th, 2012
10:10 am

235 OPS+

The blog is not working right yet again. About damned time the IT people got their act together and fixed it.

Mike Berry

December 17th, 2012
10:10 am

DOB

What’s you take on what the market is like now for Michael Bourn??? Seeing that most if not all of the big market spenders have already spent their money (except the Rangers)…is his best bet to try for a one year deal and re-enter the market next year??? A disadvantage of being represented by Scott Boras in a very early contractual offseason???

Couch Tater

December 17th, 2012
10:11 am

Yet, as you pointed out, there are Braves fans here who spent much of the last half of his career criticizing him at every opportunity.

Extreme minority, I would think.

A.P.

December 17th, 2012
10:17 am

Mike, I think Bourn (Boras) will get exactly what they are asking for. Texas is almost in panic mode, Seattle was willing to spend big for Hamilton and still need a CF. You also can’t discount a team like the Phils or even the Yanks getting involved.

Lew

December 17th, 2012
10:18 am

VaBraves – Pretty much what I’ve suggested as a deal for EOF.

I can understand where Efrim is coming from – TOBF? Yeah, I undestand whgere tha Snarky Puppy is coming from, too. But I look at it like this – I fully realize that we do not have a bunch of #1-2 pitchers on our staff and that there is a lot of youth. Add to this the cost of top line pitching and the scarcity thereof and the best way for a mid market team to have a successful rotation is by going expensive on a top line bullpen – it is much cheaper than several $20 mil a year pitchers we could in no way afford and allows your kids to pitch less innings as they develop and to still maintain quality through nine innings.

And I don’t care what anyone says – EOF has been steady and very effective. He may not strike out a bunch of hitters while throwing like Kimbrel or other flame throwers, but he manages to not give up runs, which is exactly what you want. And considering he starts and finishes most innings in which he pitches, I’d say ERAis a very good indicator of his woprth, despite the fact most don’t seem to think so according to current thought.

DAP

December 17th, 2012
10:19 am

efrim Pretty sure a few people here would have no issues with the Braves handing that sort of a deal to Eric O’Flaherty.

2 years $6mil? why would that be bad for o’flarety? id be surprised if he signed for that little, sounds like a steal to me. the braves might have more pressing needs for that money, though.

Just stupid. Relievers are year to year – even the best of them. Totally fine going through arbitration with Kimbrel too.

to believe this it seems like you have to believe 2 things, one, that relievers like kimbrel (or o’flarety) are easily repalceable, and two, that you can have no certainty about their performance year to year.

maybe thats not what you think, but i believe both are false.

Murph

December 17th, 2012
10:23 am

Yet, as you pointed out, there are Braves fans here who spent much of the last half of his career criticizing him at every opportunity.

You don’t know what you’ve got until it’s gone. There’s going to be a lot of sad panda Braves fans this year if Francisco does indeed end up starting at 3B. I think he’ll actually do a decent job if given the chance, but he’ll never come close to filling Chipper’s shoes.

DAP

December 17th, 2012
10:23 am

vabraves If I’m a RedSox fan I wouldn’t be to happy about how things have gone. Would have rather seen more young players given chances or brought in.

maybe (i dont know this) they dont have the young players ready to play MLB. almost everything they have done this off season screams “stop gap”. looks like they maybe be able to slowly bring in some young players, instead of having 7 of 9 guys be rooks.

TheOnlyBravesFan

December 17th, 2012
10:30 am

What Lew, did I attack one of your faves? Didn’t talk about lefties, soft-tossers, or out machines yet…

I think he meant 2 year, 6mil each year DAP… similar to what Affeldt got. Braves shouldn’t be giving that much to a middle reliever. Especially since he’s not top25.

Ben Duronio ‏@Ben_Duronio
KJ for LF

Ben Duronio ‏@Ben_Duronio
I mean if nobody is picking KJ up, might as well have him be a bench bat. No legit lefties there now.

Ben Duronio ‏@Ben_Duronio
I wonder how Kelly would handle third

Umm

Lew

December 17th, 2012
10:35 am

I live in the middle of Red Sox country and last year was so bad and painful for most of the fans that already this year looks like a huge improvement to them. A few I’ve spoken to (I keep trying to get them to put a table and wood burning stove in the post office so we can talk baseball comfortably) cling to the idea that they are still a playoff team, but most realize they will be better but hardly a force.

TheOnlyBravesFan

December 17th, 2012
10:35 am

and EOF isn’t our only dominant reliever… we’ve still got JV, Walden, Avilan, Gearrin… more guys in the minors like Hale, Jaime, etc. Bullpen would be fine even next year w/out EOF.

Lew

December 17th, 2012
10:35 am

TOBF – ^%$* Off you little jackass.

JasonInFL

December 17th, 2012
10:39 am

Jeff Passan has a good article up why teams should go for it (and some are: Royals, Blue Jays) while some of the traditional powers (Yanks, Sox, Mets) payroll-wise are struggling…which is the same reason why I continue to say that the Braves, if any year, should overpay a little this year to bring in an impact bat for LF.

Lew

December 17th, 2012
10:40 am

Next year is next year. This year isn’t. Right now he’s needed. Next year maybe they will have other proven relievers that can step in but right now he makes this bullpen one of the best in baseball and quite possibly THE best.

Lew

December 17th, 2012
10:43 am

We haven’t even seen Walden pitch. Avilan has a half season behind him. Gearrin is nowhere even vaguely close to EOF and is RH. Hale, James, etc. have absolutely no MLB experience

TheOnlyBravesFan

December 17th, 2012
10:44 am

I don’t think we lose much by swapping Walden for EOF… got Avilan and hopefully Gearrin all year… better than Livan and CMart (though it seems that he’ll be back). All we lose is about 3mil in payroll… gain almost 6mph in fastball speed though! Walden is good just like EOF, even against lefties. Controllable, throws hard, strikes out more guys than does EOF. Was ranked higher among best relievers at the midseason point of 2012 than Eric was.

David O'Brien

December 17th, 2012
10:46 am

From Bill Chuck’s Hot Stove Files, the nine lowest batting averages over the 2011-2012 seasons (no, Uggla didn’t make the list):

Rk Player BA OBP
1 Adam Dunn .184 .315
2 Carlos Pena .211 .344
3 John Buck .213 .308
4 Casey McGehee .221 .282
5 Mark Reynolds .221 .328
6 Brendan Ryan .222 .296
7 Kelly Johnson .223 .308
8 Russell Martin .224 .317
9 Colby Rasmus .224 .293

Murph

December 17th, 2012
10:48 am

The AJC IT Department is on the naughty list. Every one of you. Nothing but coal in your stockings this year.

I notice that I can connect to just about any page other than the latest page. When I try to connect to the latest page, I get an error. I can go to the page before it and it loads fine. Try to connect to the current page, though, and I get the usual server 500 whatever BS.

I don’t know why I’m trying to post this as I know it’ll just error out. I feel like I have to try, though.

Never give up, never surrender!

Juan

December 17th, 2012
10:49 am

DOB….Who’s # 10?…….Uggla??/

Juan

December 17th, 2012
10:49 am

DOB….Who’s # 10?…….Uggla??/

Lew

December 17th, 2012
10:50 am

TOBF – See, that’s it – you just don’t think.

If EOF is good enough to bring the return you think he should, then he’s better than you give him credit for. And if we can’t find a way to spend the money we already have, of what use would be the $3.8 mil he’s do if added to what we already can’t spend.

Like I said – next year is next year – maybe someone steps up or proves ready to replace him and you can use the money then – maybe to extend McCann. But in the meantime, it makes me wonder how someone with so little faith in our starting rotation can’t see how if that is true, then the strongest bullpen you can field would be integral to success.

But that would require applying logic and reason and not relying on obsession and alphabet soup to tell you what you think.

tony austin

December 17th, 2012
10:59 am

The Falcons are almost never on a National Broadcast – keyLargo

That should change next season.

Arkansas Transplant

December 17th, 2012
11:06 am

I’d be alright with moving EOF if a good situation presented itself or if he was whip topping that swung a trade in our favor but I’m not looking to move him just to move him.

And as far as Waldo goes, I wasn’t a big fan of the Hanson trade. Not exactly sure what we gained in that move besides payroll and last I checked.. we still have that flexibility on the books, so once again, not exactly sure where that trade helped.

Lew

December 17th, 2012
11:10 am

I just don’t see him being more valuable in a trade as he is in the bullpen for the Braves.

Murph

December 17th, 2012
11:10 am

Not exactly sure what we gained in that move besides payroll and last I checked.. we still have that flexibility on the books, so once again, not exactly sure where that trade helped.

I look at it as opening up a spot in the rotation for either Delgado or Teheran, both of whom are likely to be better pitchers than Hanson was last season. They may lack experience and both are certain to go through some rough stretches, but they at least have the abilities that will allow them to bounce back where Hanson was about as cooked as an SP could be.

The payroll gain was nice, but having Delgado/Teheran in the rotation instead of Hanson will end up being the big win of that move.

George_George

December 17th, 2012
11:11 am

Good morning all
Think some of us are tough on BRAVES? I have been reading PATS bloggers on BOSTON HERARD website, they are really IRATE.

George_George

December 17th, 2012
11:14 am

cab must be happy, darn it

Arkansas Transplant

December 17th, 2012
11:14 am

Depends on the return to me, if we were to get an everyday LF? I’d view that as more valuable or even if we were able to get a promising prospect.

Arkansas Transplant

December 17th, 2012
11:15 am

I wouldn’t view a role player quite as valuable.

Arkansas Transplant

December 17th, 2012
11:17 am

I was kind of hoping for a bounce back for Hanson, specially if he could learn to use his legs more.

TheOnlyBravesFan

December 17th, 2012
11:17 am

Also, don’t believe I’ve said that the Braves need to move EOF, just that they should entertain the idea… if someone is willing to “overpay” for him, make the deal… we could get something valuable in return for him, since he almost certainly won’t be back next season. If this player is good enough, we may end up “winning” the trade of EOF. 6 years of a good player, vs. 1 of EOF in an already great ‘pen. Look at what the Cubs got for 1 year of Marshall, and that trade was inside their division

George_George

December 17th, 2012
11:20 am

George_George

December 16th, 2012
8:01 pm
David O’Brien

December 16th, 2012
3:47 pm
George_George – DOB-MIB Fans — Lew

Thanks, Lew. Because it really wouldn’t be a great Facebook page if George_George and his faux naivety in the form of comments about my work schedule during baseball season.

*******************************************************************************************
OUR leader does not want me on FB page, guess he thinks I am LENTZ.
Thin skin DAVID?

TheOnlyBravesFan

December 17th, 2012
11:20 am

Contract negotiations between R.A. Dickey and the Blue Jays “have ended successfully at an affordable rate,” Richard Griffin of the Toronto Star reports. The Blue Jays will examine the knuckleballer at their Spring Training site before making an announcement, according to Griffin.

WTG AA. Executive of the year, so far.

BravePack(FreeFan)

December 17th, 2012
11:21 am

Braves get Bourjos yet?

Murph

December 17th, 2012
11:23 am

I was kind of hoping for a bounce back for Hanson, specially if he could learn to use his legs more.

He seemed to struggle with the mechanic changes he already put in place… not sure adding more on top would have helped him much. Maybe.

He’ll do fine in LA, probably end up with a winning record this season if his shoulder doesn’t blow up on him. He’ll have an ERA over 5, but with the run support he’ll get, I’m sure he’ll do well enough to win some ballgames.

ncscoots

December 17th, 2012
11:25 am

WTG AA. Executive of the year, so far.

It certainly makes for an interesting dilemma among those pundits who revere Anthopoulos. How will they look at giving up six years of two Top 3 prospects for a 38-year-old pitcher? Most of the usual suspects trashed Dayton Moore for his trade of top prospects. Will they now praise Anthopoulos, just because he’s AA?

My breath be bated, LOL.

Brava

December 17th, 2012
11:30 am

Adam Rubin ‏@AdamRubinESPN

Toronto Star article: GM Alex Anthopoulos went to Dickey’s Nashville home, and the two-year extension likely will be worth more than $26M.

Lew

December 17th, 2012
11:30 am

Well, apparently Wren doesn’t agree any more than I do.

TheOnlyBravesFan

December 17th, 2012
11:32 am

Adam Rubin ‏@AdamRubinESPN
Toronto Star article: GM Alex Anthopoulos went to Dickey’s Nashville home, and the two-year extension likely will be worth more than $26M.

Lew

December 17th, 2012
11:32 am

Brave Pack – No Bourjos yet. Wren wouldn’t give up O’Flaherty for him.

BravePack(FreeFan)

December 17th, 2012
11:35 am

How bout Fowler? Gordon? Anybody? Somebody?

George_George

December 17th, 2012
11:36 am

David O’Brien

December 17th, 2012
9:39 am
It is alright DAVID if I am not on FB page. Sometimes I think I spend to much time here [lol] but it is addicking, so this blog is enough. I do understand FB page is very good.

A.P.

December 17th, 2012
11:36 am

Lew- Did you hear LAA asked for EOF for Bourjos?

ncscoots

December 17th, 2012
11:39 am

Never mind. Early returns are in, and AA is still a genius, Moore the idiot cousin:

That blockbuster set the stage for this one, making the high cost of obtaining Dickey more easily justifiable than the Wil Myers-driven prospect package the Royals sent to the Rays in exchange for James Shields and Wade Davis last week.

much of this has to do with the widespread perception of the relative skills of Toronto’s Alex Anthopoulos and Kansas City’s Dayton Moore when it comes to filling out major league rosters during their time as general managers.

TheOnlyBravesFan

December 17th, 2012
11:40 am

it is addicking… whoa whoa lol

I doubt LAA would take EOF for Bourjos… still would need a good prospect to go along w/ that… plus, they already got 1 lefty reliever from the Royals for Santana… now, Minor for Bourjos straight up…. that sounds perfecto.

;)

TheOnlyBravesFan

December 17th, 2012
11:40 am

Ken Rosenthal ‏@Ken_Rosenthal
Source: Dickey in agreement with #BlueJays on two-year, $25 million extension that he had requested from #Mets, pending physical.

Brava

December 17th, 2012
11:41 am

Ken Rosenthal ‏@Ken_Rosenthal

Source: Dickey in agreement with #BlueJays on two-year, $25 million extension that he had requested from #Mets, pending physical.

Lew

December 17th, 2012
11:42 am

A.P. – No – just giving a bit of snark back to TOBF.

brian

December 17th, 2012
11:42 am

EOF will get considerably more than 2 year $6 million if he has another good year

Brava

December 17th, 2012
11:43 am

Ken Rosenthal ‏@Ken_Rosenthal

#Mets-#BlueJays trade will be official as soon as Dickey passes physical. Contract will extend through ‘15, almost until his 41st birthday.

Lew

December 17th, 2012
11:44 am

Bourjos for MInor? Yeah, that one will go through. Where do you come up with this crap, anyway?

Lew

December 17th, 2012
11:45 am

Rhetorical question, of course. You pull them out of your…

Brava

December 17th, 2012
11:48 am

Sadly, Lew, he actually thinks they’re good trade proposals.

Brava

December 17th, 2012
11:48 am

Pete Abraham ‏@PeteAbe

With Dempster, Drew, Uehara and (I guess) Napoli going on the 40 man, #RedSox have some moves to make. Roster is at 39

Brava

December 17th, 2012
11:49 am

Buster Olney ‏@Buster_ESPN

Dickey just landed in FLA to undergo his physical with the Jays. Some of his 2-year, $25m extension with TOR will be a signing bonus for ‘13

Lew

December 17th, 2012
11:49 am

Brava – The folly of youth?

Brava

December 17th, 2012
11:50 am

Yes, Lew, I think so.

Brava

December 17th, 2012
11:51 am

Buster Olney ‏@Buster_ESPN

Dickey asked for some of his ‘14-’15 extension to be pushed up front to ‘13, to help offset tax difference…

Murph

December 17th, 2012
11:51 am

TOBF, you need a scale to work from when proposing Bourjos trades.

Here’s a starting point for you to work from:

Gilmartin for Bourjos would be an overpay by the Braves.

Use that as a starting point and you’ll draw less ire from many of the blog followers.

George_George

December 17th, 2012
11:51 am

Wonder if he is really 17?

DAP

December 17th, 2012
11:51 am

TOBF ?I think he meant 2 year, 6mil each year DAP… similar to what Affeldt got. Braves shouldn’t be giving that much to a middle reliever. Especially since he’s not top25.

oh, $6mil per is pretty steep. i cant see that happening. ill challenge your assertion that he isnt top 25. what 25 relievers have been better over the last 4 years? or how about the last 2 years, where o’flarety has been especially dominant?

Soph

December 17th, 2012
11:52 am

I should re-start my brick wall business.

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