2:37 pm December 10, 2012, by David O'Brien
December 16th, 20127:50 am
If you’re gonna’ go wishin’, conjecture a real player, MIKE TROUT or OSCAR TAVARAS.
I’m more and more convinced it’s Plan ‘C’ for the BRAVES. We’ll see what chemistry develops amongst the regulars, and McCANN, SIMMONS, UPTON, LAIRD, PENA, GATTIS, FRANCISCO, MEJIA, TEHERAN, DELGADO, BEACHY, CARPENTER, WALDEN.
That’s a lot of new and re-tooled moving parts. Potentially half a team.
94 wins? More? Less?
Now if i was a betting man, I’d say too much mystery early to reach 94 again, or exceed that number, but sometines guys click. There’s always a chance.
December 16th, 20127:51 am
There is more to Rios than last year,he has been a model of inconsistency his entire career. No way should we trade for him unless White Sox take on a large part of the money. Not a great choice
December 16th, 20127:54 am
They have to at least be realistic, Richbrave.
December 16th, 20127:58 am
PRADO’s in arb 3 this off-season. I think he should be given a serious contract now. I would consider next season too late. With what he’s going to go through this upcoming year, he should know the BRAVES want him before he’s exposed to the potential of FA. He might get disgusted with the org., and fly the coop.
December 16th, 20128:00 am
And RIOS is ? Plueeze.
Get a solid player or stay home. I’m betting on the latter.
December 16th, 20128:01 am
White Sox have their stud OF prospect, Courtney Hawkins, but he’s only 19. He’s 2 or 3 years away. Danks is their 4th OFer, a big downgrade from Rios. Maybe someone knows something about the Sox that means they would part with Rios.
Cot’s does not show this, but I’m seeing three years of control, 12.2, 12.5, 13.5 club option. http://baseballplayersalaries.com/players/157_Alex_Rios.
I know this has been discussed here before, but I can’t remember. Is there a reason, if no decent deal presents itself, why we cannot lock up Prado with a 3 x 8M or a 4 X 7M deal? He made 4.74M last year./
He’s due to make about 7.7mil this season, so if we lock him up longer than that, he’d need to get a raise to atleast 9mil annually. FA market is really weak though, he could get much more if he wanted to. He’s the only good 3B available next winter. Was hoping we could do 5/40 for him before, but now it will probably take 5/60
December 16th, 20128:05 am
Yeah, the Sox have 4 OF prospects in their top 10 with Jared Mitchell probably the closest to MLB ready.
December 16th, 20128:06 am
Buster Olney @Buster_ESPN
Evaluators around MLB are beyond shocked TOR is talking about trading Travis d’Arnaud for a player with one year on his contract, Dickey.
Efrim must love to see that!
December 16th, 20128:07 am
Well, certainly a lot more realistic than Trout. An .850 OPS and a 20/20 guy is nothing to sneeze at. He has been inconsistent though. But, you are probably right…just spitballin’ here…
December 16th, 20128:10 am
The Choo and Dickey gets are only serving to drive up the costs of potential trade targets anyway. I think the trade market has evolved in a manner this offseason that FW did not expect. Personally, I bet he thought it would be a little easier and that the prices wouldn’t be so ridiculous.
which is why I want Prado to be the 3B… he would like to play the IF, and this way, he wouldn’t be yanked about from LF/3B depending on the starter… don’t see why he’d sign longterm w/ us if we do that to him. Many teams will be looking for 3B help, and will be willing to pay him big money. Lock him up now (well, in the new year) and play him only at 3B
December 16th, 20128:11 am
Prognosticators here are becoming more and more frantic as their fancied plums are picked one by one leaving the unripened fruit higher up and out of reach.
Remember, the management likes our prospects. To their way of thinking, they have no need of a LF’er with GATTIS quasi-ready. The other teams are the ones with a need.
Ours was CF, an arm for the pen, and two bench players. All are in hand.
If folks want to cherry-pick the BRAVES in a trade it won’t happen believe me.
WREN’s a tough-minded old bird with his prospects to back him up.
McFanned my 8:01… pathetic! 2nd paragraph is my opinion
December 16th, 20128:12 am
KeyLargo, good to dig up a new name. People need to keep throwing them out there. I agree with some of the doubts above. But what if the Sox need to shed salary to sign a pitcher? What if this Alabama kid, raised in Puerto Rico, has not lived up to full potential in cold Toronto and cold Chicago? I see one of his down years is really just the second half of a season after a mid-year trade, maybe an adjustment problem. Rios has size, speed, and arm.
On balance, I agree with others Rios is unlikely. But if Wren surprised us, I would be enthusiastic.
December 16th, 20128:14 am
Richbrave, then why has Wren repeatedly said they are and have been looking for a LF and have been in on Span, Choo, Fowler, Gordon, etc? Must be because he is so sold on his 26 year old prospect that hit AA pitching.
Look, if they don’t get a LF, I will root like heck for whoever is in LF or 3B. Always have, always will. It doesn’t mean that I don’t want the team to improve its one weakness right now!
December 16th, 20128:17 am
“….. I think the trade market has evolved in a manner this offseason that FW did not expect. Personally, I bet he thought it would be a little easier and that the prices wouldn’t be so ridiculous…..”
Now we’re on the same page. I’m bettin’ WREN takes his marbles and goes home.
BOURNE for one is still a possibility at 14 or so.
December 16th, 20128:21 am
You know my thoughts. I’m bettin’ against a ‘premium’ LF or prospect for LF. Prices too high.
But I was wrong once before, I just can’t remember when.
December 16th, 20128:25 am
As a non-FA player, I would give a discount on a long term deal because it’s guaranteed. I don’t have to worry that my next arb year will be bad, or even worse, that I will have a serious injury. That has to be a player’s nightmare, going through six years of league minimum and arb, and then the last week of the season shredding your Achilles tendon, or getting diagnosed with a chronic illness, or your eyes go bad. Remember, Prado is playing right next to Uggla and McCann. What if their issues had cropped up one or two seasons earlier? If Prado’s arb offers come in at 6M and 8M, and before the arbitration itself you jump in and give Prado his number–8M–for 4 years or 5 years, that might be persuasive.
TOBF, you are probably right, anything south of 10M probably would not work. My only point is that when the club makes a pre-emptive long term offer, you can take the current FA market value, and discount it some, because the player is selling his risk to the team. The unknown is how much discount.
December 16th, 20128:28 am
Frank started his winter break early…
December 16th, 20128:29 am
Unless there is trade for a LFer, Martin Prado will start in LF and Jaun Francisco will start at 3B. Saying different a hundred times won’t change that.
December 16th, 20128:30 am
Overall, I have come to grips with the idea of the internal options, and have some excitement about how they could turn out.
But I’m always open to getting a guy who really improves us. In fantasy-land, if I had to pick between getting an .850 OPS guy from outside, or watching our internal options give us an .850 OPS, I would pick the latter. That would be more fun to watch.
December 16th, 20128:31 am
good points, old man.
December 16th, 20128:32 am
We play the Phillies to start the season, I believe… Cole Hamels probably gets the OD start… Prado at 3B, Reed in LF. Then when Halladay pitches, yank Prado out to LF and Juan plays 3rd.
December 16th, 20128:33 am
I am starting to come to grips with the internal options too. It just takes me a little longer than most! But, let me be clear, whoever is in the starting lineup with have my backing and I will root like heck for them!
December 16th, 20128:36 am
Amen old man to a PRADO deal. I wanted one last off-season, but got several hoy-paloy’s about how you don’t offer a player deals with arb left.
Well, look where we are, and what the market’s doing. Don’t baseball folks here realize what all this local market t.v. revenue is doing to player and team values? This is just the beginning. With more and more teams rolling out ever higher revenue streams, and the BRAVES stuck in possibly the worst t.v. contract in baseball, the hammer is going to mash some fingers around here as it continues to fall.
December 16th, 20128:38 am
It will be interesting to see where Bourn ends up. I doubt he takes a 1 year deal though. But, if he isn’t getting the offers he likes, he may take a 1 year deal and reestablish his value. I just don’t see it.
December 16th, 20128:39 am
several hoy-paloy’s about how you don’t offer a player deals with arb left.
Whoever said that musta been stupid. Valuable player, low risk…
Guess we shouldn’t lock up Heyward, Freeman, and Medlen now… they have arb left
December 16th, 20128:43 am
‘Yanked’ being the operative word.
Being offered arb salary time and again without a long-term deal in prospect, what would you think of being yanked around? When my time came as a free agent, I’d split and not look back. Somebody need a great bat and 2B glove. I’m your man. How much?
December 16th, 20128:46 am
Lock them all up with the excess cash not spent on a premium LF. Do it right about fiscal cliff time.
December 16th, 20128:50 am
I’d split and not look back
December 16th, 20128:58 am
Ken Rosenthal @Ken_Rosenthal
Can’t judge reported proposals for #Mets’ Dickey until deal complete. At first glance, D’Arnaud-Syndergaard seems overpay by #BlueJays
Ken Rosenthal @Ken_Rosenthal
Unless A) #BlueJays sign Dickey to extension and B) #Mets also send back quality prospect. But again, need to see full deal first.
December 16th, 20128:59 am
Just saw that Led Zeppelin members Robert Plant and John Paul Jones and Jimmy Page are going to be interviewed at 9 am this morning on the CBS show “Sunday Morning”.
December 16th, 20129:16 am
I think you’re probably right; Francisco at 3B and Prado in LF. I think we’ll it’s likely we’ll see Prado at 3B and Johnson in LF against lefties a few times too. And I obviously don’t really know, but I think Prado just wants to play and be a contributing member of the team, regardless of how he’s used. He seems like that type of guy.
December 16th, 20129:19 am
Been telling y’all all along that they were going to go with Francisco as – at the very least – part of a platoon.
December 16th, 20129:20 am
I’m hope’n that Gattis can show what he’s capable of, stay injury free, & just be that “sluggo” that will Rock in that line-up. Sure he may be limited, he’s strong, don’t believe he’s used any kind of juice, but the opportunities there, I believe he’ll make the most of it & be a home-grown xtra threat in that line-up. He may play inspiring which the clubhouse could use, more life. I’m excited for “Mighty G”.
December 16th, 20129:22 am
Or the title of the steve correl movie “Evan Almighty”, that nickname might be too much to live up to.
December 16th, 20129:24 am
What’s the Latin nickname they’ve dawned on him down in venezuella? “El-sorbo or something”.
I agree that. I’m not sure where the claims that Prado “wants” to play 3B full time come from. I’d really be disappointed that he was no longer going to do what was the best for the team, what got him to MLB and while making an estimated $7.7 M.
December 16th, 20129:25 am
Is Schafer playing winter ball? He definately should be unless he’s injured.
December 16th, 20129:26 am
I agree with that is what I meant Heath.
December 16th, 20129:31 am
el oso blanco
December 16th, 20129:33 am
I live 90 miles north of Cuba and FOX’s local channel gives me Buffalo vs. Seattle played in Toronto as the “game of the week”.
December 16th, 20129:42 am
You don’t see deals like this made from one organization within 18 months. Alderson gets 12 years of service time for two Top 10 overall prospects in Zack Wheeler and Travis d’Arnaud for 1.5 years of Carlos Beltran and R.A. Dickey. Not to mention it looks like he is getting Noah Syndergaard too.
Will be very interesting to see if Keith Law destroys AA for this trade. I think this is a worse trade than what the Royals paid for Shields/Davis.
BraveDan – He had considered flying down there, but they’ve been drug testing him.
A three or four year deal might make Prado feel better about being “yanked around.” I see no objective evidence he feels that way anyway.
On the contrary, he plays like he loves it.
Interesting article on successful platoons through history:
But, I see none where two positions (one not being DH) were involved. If it worked, they would be calling Fredi a managerial genius. That might be salt in the wound for some of you guys!
December 16th, 20129:43 am
Brave Dan – He had considered flying down there, but they’ve been drug testing him regularly.
December 16th, 20129:44 am
Dysfunctional blog. Isn’t it about time they fixed it?
December 16th, 20129:49 am
1. Travis d’Arnaud, c
2. Zack Wheeler, rhp
3. Gavin Cecchini, ss
4. Brandon Nimmo, of
5. Noah Syndergaard, rhp
6. Luis Mateo, rhp
7. Rafeal Montero, rhp
8. Wilmer Flores, 3b
9. Michael Fulmer, rhp
10. Domingo Tapia, rhp
That would be the Mets new Top 10 and would be among the best in baseball.
December 16th, 20129:57 am
Teams are “going for it” this offseason. We finally have money to use but our prospects are not good enough to land anyone that is desirable. He’s gonna have to get creative, or this team’s payroll has basically been slashed by around 10 million. Also it’s not like we would be able to use alot of that for a mid season trade with player salaries already cut in half and our weak prospects to offer.
I don’t understand. We have a good amount of money to spend but decided to go cheap with backup catcher, back loaded BJ Upton’s contract, and traded Hanson and his salary. Now looking at things I wouldn’t mind David Ross for 2 years 6.2 million…. I wouldn’t mind seeing Uptons contract being evenly based year to year.
Just because we go into the season with a 85 million payroll doesn’t mean Wren will have a 105 million payroll in 2014. This money we have just goes away, it could help for possible extentions and mid season trades but I highly doubt we use much of it. Wren can’t use the excuse of not having financial flexibility this time…
December 16th, 20129:59 am
JIM BOWDEN @JimBowdenESPNxm
The Blue Jays – Mets deal is expected to be completed in next 24 hours…Blue Jays would like to extend Dickey prior to closing deal
December 16th, 201210:00 am
Yep – Quite a haul for the Mets. And all they had to do was to suck on the field to get there.
December 16th, 201210:03 am
VaBraves – And just because they haven’t spent all available money by December 16, doesn’t mean that they won’t spend it. And it doesn’t mean our prospects are not desired or that they are substandard – it just means that with a limited payroll, they may have more value to the team remaining Braves than any outrageous demandes for players to play positions we could cover by players we already have.
Y’all are way impatient and way too fixated on how much money the Braves will spend.
December 16th, 201210:04 am
Braves need to do something insignificant so they can bump the signing of Ramiro Pena as the top story from the Braves page. When his picture dominates the Braves page for a week…. the organization should feel …… inadequate.
Blue Jays are going for it… can’t blame them, they’ve been stockpiling for a while now, and now they have a chance to take the AL East.
Wren’s first offer to Martin Prado needs to be a good one, cause he could easily cash in big as a free agent after the season if he plays around his norms. Just about every team would likely be interested. He could be a everyday player at 3 positions LF, 3B, and 2B. Depending on how each team views him. He would have easily been the #1 3rd baseman in the free agent market this offseason and possibly a top 10 free agent. Likely would have landed a 4 or 5 year deal around 10-12 million a season.
December 16th, 201210:09 am
But most of the options we would consider upgrades for LF are off the board. As of right now I don’t see a sure fire upgrade over our current platoon options. Most of the names mentioned come have some question marks and mainly are potential type players.
Fowler, plays in Coors and his splits show it. From Atlanta and looks like a exciting player.
Bourjos, defensive stud with blazing speed, very questionable bat
Trumbo, Big power, but really doesn’t have a position.
Just to name those 3 right now, they are not for sure upgrades in LF for us. If Francisco and Johnson are used correctly they have the potential to put up good numbers combined.
December 16th, 201210:20 am
I think there is plenty to blame for the Jays. This is stupid. Replace the catcher with the .275 OBP with d’Arnaud and that will be close to the same difference with Dickey and Happ. And again, you’re keeping prospects with tons of service time left than to trade for Dickey who is a free agent after the 2013 season. The extension does not have anything to do with this trade.
December 16th, 201210:22 am
VaBRaves – Every single player you could possibly sign has questions attached. Does not matter in the least who it is. And all the options YOU and a few others here can think of are off the table. There could be options y’all haven’t considered or who are flying under the radar.
And so what if we go with our own players? Spending a ton of money has proven to be a crapshoot even at humongously stupid levels of salary (getting stupider by the day). Look at last year – on paper, the Angels and Tigers were supposed to dominate the world of baseball, yet they didn’t. The Angels never made the playoffs and the Tigers were damned lucky that they did. And then look at the WS – the two teams with the worst records played for the championship. Go freaking figure.
The Braves have a good – if not greatr rotation. They have one of the best – if not THE best bullpen in baseball. They have at least (more if Gattis or Francisco hit like we feel they will) five players capable of hitting 20-35 HR. They have two players who are boina fide 30-30 possibilities. They have a top of the order with Prado, who was top ten in hits last year and a .300 hitter, capable of playing wherever they need him to. They have a good defense. They will score lots of runs. The pitchers will not give up lots of runs.
Will Laird be as good a back up as Ross? Who knows. But I’m not basing my hopes for the season on whether or not he will be and neither should you.
TOBF – don’t see why he’d sign longterm w/ us if we do that to him.
It seems to me that Prado is the type of guy who will do whatever it takes to get the job done. He’s versatile and talented, and I’m sure that he knows that increases his value.
December 16th, 201210:23 am
I’m not a Dickey believer, I bet he is nothing close to his 2012 performance going forward.
Worst records of playoff teams that is.
December 16th, 201210:29 am
There has been much discussion recently about the Braves payroll, and estimates. Below is information on the “hidden costs” included in every teams payroll, which is not reflected on the Cot’s spreadsheets The definition for “payroll” under the newest collective bargaining agreement is as follows: “Payrolls are for 40-man rosters and include averages of multiyear contracts; health and pension benefits; clubs medical costs; insurance; workman’s compensation, payroll, unemployment and Social Security taxes; spring training allowances; meal and tip money; All-Star game expenses; travel and moving expenses; postseason pay; and college scholarships.”
A baseball source said the annual expense for medical benefits typically runs between $10 and $11 million per season. We’ll split it down the middle for our purposes and say $10.5 million.
December 16th, 201210:31 am
Yeah, cuz I was about to say, the Giants didn’t have the worst NL record… the Cards did.
December 16th, 201210:34 am
At present, the deal looks like three-for-four trade with Dickey, Josh Thole, and a Mets prospect going to the Blue Jays for Travis d’Arnaud, Noah Syndergaard, John Buck, and a prospect.
December 16th, 201210:36 am
December 16th, 2012
Been telling y’all all along that they were going to go with Francisco as – at the very least – part of a platoon……”
Here’s hoping he doesn’t revert to his former ways as he did last night…..0-3, and 3 whiffs.
Hopefully, it’s an object lesson and he gets back on track with his new approach at the plate. With WALKER in his ear all season, he may stay on the straght and narrow. He doesn’t yet fully accepted the idea that hitting comes first…………hitting with power comes later.
December 16th, 201210:37 am
Rios could be a nice addition, if salary is picked up. Is Toronto paying some of his salary already?
Another ChiSox to think about is Alejandro DeAza. Couls fit nicelt in LF and leadoff. White Sox may need a 3RD baseman (Francisco) with Youkalis off to NYY.
December 16th, 201210:38 am
TOBF – The point was that if you’re good enough to get into the playoffs (and that included the stupid one game thing they just instituted), its a total crapshoot and the best team does not always win. And the highest payroll sometimes doesn’t get to the playoffs at all or many times are one and out.
You just have to be good enough and not the best or most expensive. We’ve seen that prove out time after time and yet we still can’t accept it.
Oh – And were they to trade for Bourjos, they’d still be on the cheap and wouldn’t have spent all their money.
December 16th, 201210:41 am
richbrave – Even in his 56 game streak season, Joe D went ofer a couple of times, right? I’m not gonna hold it against Juan. And he only struck out once, didn’t he? That alone is reason for optimism.
December 16th, 201210:43 am
Exactly Lew, playoffs don’t really prove all that much. As for Bourjos, yes, he’d be cheap, but is a better option than our internal options and with Choo, Gordon, Upton, hart all unlikely, why not go after him? Cheap salary-wise and cheap to acquire..
He doesn’t yet fully accepted the idea that hitting comes first…………hitting with power comes later.
28% K rate, 9% walk rate at what’s essentially AA. The Ks will go up, and the walks down when he’s playing in the MLB. Likely he’d go back to his .235/.270/.440 at the MLB level. Swing and hope he hits… just like BJ.
And let’s not forget that had we signed Hamilton, Span, Victorino, Fowler, Bourjos, Pagan, Bourn, Willingham, Swisher, Rios, or anyone – half (at the very least) of the fans would have been unhappy anyway.
December 16th, 201210:44 am
I understand we have a damn good looking team. I agree. I’m just blowing some smoke about the payroll situation. Every year were working with limited resources and operating under a tight budget, not this year and still fail (up to this point) at filling needs. There could be a handful of under the radar players out there, but overall most of the sure fire upgrades are off the board. Justin Upton, Alex Gordon, Shin Soo Choo.
I’d say that Josh Willingham is still a possibility but I can’t the price would be out of this world after some of the deals that have went down this offseason.
Trying to think of off the radar type guys we could go after… Some could be everyday options or another option for platoon… Alex Rios and Jason Kubel are the main 2 that come to mind. We could throw names like Vernon Wells, Alfonso Soriano, and Jeff Francour out there for shyts and giggles… Michael Morse? Grady Sizemore? Curtis Granderson?
December 16th, 2012
Just saw that Led Zeppelin members Robert Plant and John Paul Jones and Jimmy Page are going to be interviewed at 9 am this morning on the CBS show “Sunday Morning”…..”
Much better than a discourse on the state of mental health in this country, and the lack of treatment for the mentally ill.
Keep spouting the alphabet soup as if it really meant anything.
December 16th, 201210:45 am
but if he’s playing for us as part of a platoon, I’ll support him. And be preparing my good-byes to Prado.
Hopefully his defense is better too… big arm, but below avg. range. Needs to improve that.
December 16th, 201210:47 am
VaBraves – There’s an old Zap Comix quote from the Fabulous Furry Freak Brothers about availability of a certain commodity and money that is applicable in this situation. Just cause you got the bucks don’t mean there’s anything to spend it on.
And BTW -The first poster who can come up with that quote wins a Wurlitzer.
December 16th, 201210:48 am
Lew, did you really think about your post of Joe DiMaggio’s 56 game hit streak before you sent it? There can be NO 0-fer games in a 56 game hit streak. By definition!
December 16th, 201210:49 am
Good morning Lew. You’ve got mail.
December 16th, 201210:50 am
Discourse on the state of mental health? You are familiar with the Mudshark story?
December 16th, 201210:51 am
December 16th, 2012
I live 90 miles north of Cuba and FOX’s local channel gives me Buffalo vs. Seattle played in Toronto as the “game of the week”…….”
REDSKINS-BROWNS might hold a bit more interest down there. It’s out of market also. ketlargo, my suggestion for the afternoon, blog a lot. If rookie Captain KIRK can’t handle the start early, I’ll join you.
December 16th, 201210:53 am
Peter Bourjos would only represent a major defensive improvement if he played most of the time. Prado would be a upgrade at 3rd and Bourjos is better than Prado in the OF. Bourjos would also add a ton of speed. But his bat is questionable. He’s only been a everyday player for 1 season and had a solid year. But is coming off a part time season with an injury. But were still talking about a guy who in 2011 played elite defense with 49 XBH and 22 SB.. So it’s a crapshoot and would likely depend on how much he played. But he’s also young, cheap and controllable.
Back to the payroll talk, I guess we never had intentions of maintaining around a 95 million payroll. Cause some players we’d like to bring in could be cheaper. But it would also be nice to see Wren get Heyward and Prado locked up this offseason. Even if it means paying a little more than we’d like in the 1st year of the contract cause after all we have the money.
December 16th, 201210:55 am
I really don’t understand why it is an automatic with some folks that Prado would be unhappy moving around the field for the Braves. What has he EVER said that would give you that impression.
Heck, I PREFER Chile Relleno’s, but I am quite OK with a grilled chicken burrito too.
I’m sure he doesn’t mind being “yanked” around for over 7million this year. The man is a team player. What is so hard to understand about him being willing to move over to SS or 2B or 1B or switch between LF and 3B on a regular basis?
Is this it? “Dope will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no dope.”
December 16th, 201211:01 am
Geno – I said in his 56 game hit streak SEASON. He didn’t have a 162 game streak, although after the 56 games were up, he went ofer for one game and started another streak. He even beat out a .400 hitting Ted Williams for MVP that year.
So yeah, I DID think about it. But before I hear snarky puppy whilings, NO, I didn’t see it first hand. I’,m not quite that old.
December 16th, 201211:02 am
Whinings. My typing has not improved with age.
There are ways Wren can use the available money in a positive way. Basically use it or lose it.
December 16th, 201211:04 am
If FW is to sign Prado to an extention, how many years and how much $$ ?
DBack – That’s the one – only I think they used Pot instead of dope. Guess you won a drawing.
December 16th, 201211:05 am
BraveDan – You’re welcome. For what?
December 16th, 201211:06 am
PRADO just wants to be a team player I guess. Just use me whereever. I’m good, as long as I’m in the big leagues.
PRADO’s a pretty zipped up kind of guy.
I wouldn’t know what he thinks, but if the BRAVES don’t lock him up now, they stand a good chance of losing him in FA.
There are going to be even bigger offers in FA next season, not less. Especially for arguably the best # 2 bat in the ML’s with a terrific glove at 2B, in LF, and 3B if this upcoming season is successful. Plus a fill-in at SS, and 1B. A Mr. Versatility-type with a co-operative attitude.
If I’m 10 other ML owners, my wallet’s open with a “what do you want attitude,” and with all the new t.v. money flooding into my club.
That’s where we’ll be at the beginning of next off-season, if there’s no contract this go round.
To my mind, the BRAVES have pushed this just as far as they can afford to go, if they want PRADO into the forseeable future.
December 16th, 201211:08 am
I couldn’t remember the exact wording, so I looked it up. Wikipedia says dope.
December 16th, 201211:09 am
Who know’s if Prado gets to stick at 1 position for most of his starts he could be a even better player.
204 Games at 2nd Base 310 AVG 843 OPS
177 Games at 3rd Base 285 AVG 709 OPS
217 Games in Left Field 287 AVG 777 OPS
pretty cool, he has a 915 OPS as a pinch hitter in his career.
139 Games Batting Lead Off 298 AVG 809 OPS
344 Games Batting 2nd 290 AVG 761 OPS
Wren has already said that he’d be dealing with extensions and arb raises after the first of the year.
Had he been signing players we alrwady have, most of you would get on his case for not working on getting more players – just like when he took five minutes to announce picking up an extra year of Fredi.
December 16th, 201211:10 am
PRADO for 5 at 11.5 million per. He turned 29 on October 27.
December 16th, 201211:11 am
For those not familiar with the mudshark story:
DBack – I promise you that Wikipedia is wrong – as they often are. No matter, you won. Besides the point remains the same despite the wording. Money won’t always help you if what you want to purchase just isn’t available.
Like I said, about fiscal cliff time.
Frank Wren in Nashville made a statement to the effect that he would look at extensions in January. I’ll take him at his word on that one and hope he locks up Prado for a very, very long time.
December 16th, 201211:12 am
richbrave – Nah, Wren just wanted to see if the Mayans were right befoe he and his staff put in a lot of work for nothing.
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