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cabravesfan
December 15th, 2012
6:28 pm
And he doesn’t scour through old blogs…
Half Empty
December 15th, 2012
6:29 pm
Jerry has a new name?
cabravesfan
December 15th, 2012
6:30 pm
VJ doesn’t need to impress me
Half Empty
December 15th, 2012
6:30 pm
That was Random wasn’t it? Haven’t seen him in quite a while
Cali James
December 15th, 2012
6:30 pm
Pot calling the Kettle black
Cali James
December 15th, 2012
6:32 pm
Does scour through old blogs, REALLY. His comment to someone a few pages back was don’t make go back to the old blogs to prove your wrong.
cabravesfan
December 15th, 2012
6:32 pm
Pot calling kettle…? What’s that supposed to mean?
Half Empty
December 15th, 2012
6:32 pm
Like the Trolls of old, they seem to have great strength, given the kinds of trouble they can cause; but ultimately, also like the Trolls of old, they have little wit. They all use the same tactics, and they all resort to the same ways of provoking people. First insult members of the chatroom or board by calling them names, ridiculing their comments and questioning their intelligence. Then start insulting the subject for which the board or chatroom was created. If that doesn’t get enough reaction, start upping the ante by bringing in completely unrelated subjects. Tell the other participants that they (or the subject under discussion) are prejudiced racially, sexually, ethnically, religiously — take your pick, they’ll eventually hit ‘em all, and then go for the jugular: doing all this while throwing in obscene language and casting other foul aspersions on anyone who happens to be within range. This is, of course, incredibly inflammatory behavior to any marginally civilized person, and a normal sense of justice and fair play naturally demands defense and protest.
Which is exactly what the Troll is hoping for, because they don’t play fair. They don’t care about the same things that brought the other participants to the site; they only want to get people riled up and see the trouble they created so they can feel big and strong and powerful because they created such a fuss. And while they’re watching the outrage and anger fly, they’re sitting under the bridge, laughing while they chew on the bones of their victims. All that public indignation has served only one purpose: it fed the Troll’s hunger for power and made him happy. It certainly did nothing for the people who got upset.
Tales tell us that warning signs were put up near bridges where Trolls were believed to be living, to keep unsuspecting folk away so that they would not be robbed or killed. You could not cross that bridge without losing either your money or your life, so it was better to turn around and ignore that bridge. Not especially convenient if that was one of few bridges around and you needed to get to the other side, but eventually, the Troll would either starve to death or leave, and the bridge would be safe again. Until the next Troll moved in, and then the same warnings and behavior would apply.
Simply put, Trolls are bullies. They are at heart small and mean people who have a need to make themselves feel big and strong, and the easiest way they can find to do that is by mistreating other people and taking pleasure in their pain. It’s not healthy, but it’s also not something that will be made better by giving in to the bully. It is far better to walk away from him, to ignore him, and even suffer a few punches rather than give him what he wants by crying and begging for mercy or even fighting with him. If you are not a “good victim,” he will look elsewhere to get what he wants. And ultimately, if direct action needs to be taken against any bully, it has to come from the proper authorities: in the case of school bullies, the administration and faculty, or even the police, in the case of Internet bullies, the persons on the site who have the power to block or remove their inflammatory and offensive remarks.
Mr Peanut
December 15th, 2012
6:33 pm
If Planters wrap a net around this blog they would have enough assorted nuts for the upcoming holiday season.
cabravesfan
December 15th, 2012
6:34 pm
He saves comments- mostly from the folks that “predict” over and over how many games the team will lose. That’s all
Cali James
December 15th, 2012
6:34 pm
The rantings that half empty has been posting.
Half Empty
December 15th, 2012
6:35 pm
here we go getting overrun with avatars
cabravesfan
December 15th, 2012
6:36 pm
If those are rants, I can give Half Empty some lessons on how to do it properly…
Half Empty
December 15th, 2012
6:36 pm
rantings? really?
cabravesfan
December 15th, 2012
6:37 pm
Anyways, y’all are distracting me from a rather complicated movie…later!
Half Empty
December 15th, 2012
6:38 pm
Because if you look closely at what these Internet Trolls say, you will eventually see the truth: They may look like big nasty ogres, but theyre really just sorry little people hiding in their dark caves, coming out to make mischief before running back into hiding where they can watch the trouble they made and laugh all alone in the dark. They’re emotional terrorists. Ignoring them isn’t easy because it hurts to see them say and do things designed to make people feel upset and angry, but it’s the only thing that will make them go away. Ignoring them completely creates an environment that simply does not give them what they’re looking for. It’s like soaking the woodpile with water: when the match comes along looking for something to burn, it wont catch, so it must go elsewhere to have its fun. But everyone must turn their backs and not respond, or the Troll will have the hope that if he keeps at it and tries hard enough, he’ll get a big enough reaction to start a real fire.
Be it a Troll under a bridge or a Troll on the Internet, the warning sign is the same:
DO NOT FEED THE TROLL.
Cali James
December 15th, 2012
6:38 pm
Nolie’s Ip address was banned for a lot less than VJ does everyday.
I haven’t seen Jerry, George etc. call anyone names but rather try to state their opinion. If you think their opinions are wrong so be it. No reason to belittle someone.
Cali James
December 15th, 2012
6:41 pm
Half empty you have stated your opinion on trolls now move along or we can wait for you to call the rest of names to make yourself feel better.
Half Empty
December 15th, 2012
6:42 pm
I didn’t call anybody names. Can you read?
Half Empty
December 15th, 2012
6:43 pm
oh wait, you are now the blog police on what I can post? Really? That is pretty funny
Half Empty
December 15th, 2012
6:45 pm
It would probably be more accepable if I just came on and spent a couple of paragraphs insulting Uggla or Fredi huh?
Half Empty
December 15th, 2012
6:47 pm
and half my posts have actually been on baseball, so far none of yours have been anything but attacking VJ and now me .
Cali James
December 15th, 2012
6:50 pm
A man has to know his limitations.
Jerry
December 15th, 2012
6:51 pm
Half Empty,
Jerry is the only name I go by. I’ve never seen the need to hide behind someone else.
Half Empty
December 15th, 2012
6:53 pm
say what? that has nothing to do with anything, makes no sense at all unless you are admitting that you know nothing about baseball and that is why you haven’t commented on it.
Half Empty
December 15th, 2012
6:56 pm
Okay Jerry, sorry.
Jerry
December 15th, 2012
7:00 pm
no problem
cabravesfan
December 15th, 2012
7:03 pm
Does anyone doubt that whoever has changed their name to “Cali James” (and has not been seen here until this afternoon) appeared simply to take random shots at Venice Jim (who has not posted on the blog all day)?
Half Empty
December 15th, 2012
7:05 pm
seems to be the case cab
Heath
December 15th, 2012
7:09 pm
Dang. I’ve been caught.
Soph
December 15th, 2012
7:17 pm
What’s with Hawks games not being on local TV anymore? This is probably the 5th one this season.
74bravesjersey
December 15th, 2012
7:20 pm
Scotty Hairston would be a nice addition, superutility, nice bat, can spell many a starter.
cabravesfan
December 15th, 2012
7:25 pm
Soph-
I envy you. I’ve been wishing for years that the Laker games wouldn’t be on TV here
74bravesjersey
December 15th, 2012
7:26 pm
Trumbo would be a dream deal, if only Mr. Arthur Blank or someone w/deep pockets rescue our team held hostaged of in the tightened clutches of that noted evil empire Liberty Media. Of course Mr. Blank has other things on his mind at the present time.
Mark
December 15th, 2012
7:27 pm
What? You mean some on here go go by different names?
I’m shocked
cabravesfan
December 15th, 2012
7:30 pm
74bravesjersey-
A Trumbo deal has nothing to do with money (especially considering he is not even arb eligible until 2014)- The Angels are not eager to trade him. They’d much rather move Bourjos
Half Empty
December 15th, 2012
7:30 pm
It seems that o far Trumbo has pop and not much else and he really took a dive the second half of last season
hHs interesting but I would not call him a dream deal
74bravesjersey
December 15th, 2012
7:35 pm
The Myan Calender concludes in 6 days, unless extended pieces are scraped up under a rock somewhere in the notable words or phrase of the emphamose Dr. Smith(Lost in space 60’s version) OH DEAR (whinning voice) William, we’re DOO’OMED! The Robot Chimes in; WARNING WILL ROBINSON! WARNING!
74bravesjersey
December 15th, 2012
7:39 pm
Thanks cabravesfan; I probably missed out on any previous takes on Bourjos, I know he’s a nifty defensive outfielder, would he fit Franks criteria?
JasonInFL
December 15th, 2012
7:40 pm
We get a LF yet?
Half Empty
December 15th, 2012
7:42 pm
sure we do Jason, Constanza
Mixxo
December 15th, 2012
7:44 pm
“We get a LF yet?” – JasonInFL
LOL
74bravesjersey
December 15th, 2012
7:44 pm
Good point Half Empty; I need to go in hybernation when I turn on MLB( & it is a waiste of time) but just hope’n to hear the Braves shock the world w/ another move, gett’n a boom’in bat from some where, but then, mabey they ought to study the Giants formula in winning a world championship 2 out of 3 yrs.
cabravesfan
December 15th, 2012
7:45 pm
74bravesjersey-
SOme folks feel Bourjos has the ability to be a good base stealer and good lead off type of guy. I am not a big fan but he has shown flashes in the past. He IS a very good defensive player. However, he has only played center field and we don’t need a center fielder. not saying he couldn’t learn to play left, but despite the idea that some have that the positions are interchangeable, I don’t believe they are. His price would be significantly less than Trumbo (who would almost certainly cost us a starter)
Lew
December 15th, 2012
7:47 pm
Accodring to cable news a few months back, they found an entire calendar that extended time itself way past anything any of us will ever be around to experience. And as to the interstellar events supposed to cause our doom and destruction, NASA claims none of them are remotely possible.
But where else is the Discovery or History channels supposed to get viewers for their Doomsday Prep shows?
74bravesjersey
December 15th, 2012
7:48 pm
What’s yalls take on our star closer pitching in the world class tournament for the US, what, for 2 – 3 weeks during ST?
Lew
December 15th, 2012
7:49 pm
I think my Mother In Law is still using toothpaste and toilet paper she stocked up on for Y2K.
jeffrey d
December 15th, 2012
7:49 pm
What’s with Hawks games not being on local TV anymore? This is probably the 5th one this season.
I know!!
cabravesfan
December 15th, 2012
7:51 pm
Kimmie pitching in the WBC isn’t much different than him pitching in spring games. I’m not worried at all…
74bravesjersey
December 15th, 2012
7:52 pm
Good point Lew; Boy those Doomsday preppers really crack me up, are ya’ll prepped up?
Lew
December 15th, 2012
7:55 pm
74 braves – Yeah, plenty of the necessities and a good bit of maple syrup. Of course, up here in VT, we’ll all freeze to death and won’t need much.
jeffrey d
December 15th, 2012
7:56 pm
I’m not worried at all…
I am….who’s the US playing first? Puerto Rico? DR? Think of all those stars that’ll be retiring after facing Craig
VaBravesFan
December 15th, 2012
7:57 pm
I like watching the Doomsday shows. While I don’t believe in any kind of end of the world scenario’s, I’m really into Post Apocalyptic shows, movies, and games.
cabravesfan
December 15th, 2012
7:58 pm
jeffrey-
USA in a group with Mexico, Canada, & Italy…no offense to any of those countries, but Kimmie would probably get a better challenge from the Marlins
74bravesjersey
December 15th, 2012
7:58 pm
@LEW; Are u serious? hahahahahahahah! lol hahahahah! Bless her heart, God Love Her Lew, oh man I almost fell out of my chair. Back then, I worried a little bit in that New Year, thinking I’d be the only one who didn’t Y2k prep.
VaBravesFan
December 15th, 2012
8:02 pm
I remember Y2K… I was only 13 years old. Me and a bunch of buddies had a sleep over playing games and stuff all night, when they started the countdown we were all underneath the bed, desk, and in closet…. lol
cabravesfan
December 15th, 2012
8:03 pm
BOOOOOOG
(I miss Boog)
74bravesjersey
December 15th, 2012
8:05 pm
Hey ya’ll, you know how kimmie gets amped up in competition, I personnally just don’t want him to risk any shoulder, arm, elbow injury or pull someth’n that could risk for the upcoming season. I think it’s great, but he needs to just stay on schedule to stay strong for this season. I realize anything can happen at anytime, but he’s the Braves High Comodity right now, I hope they take care of ‘em, mabey the Braves brass should have a short leash.
Tom O'Hawke
December 15th, 2012
8:08 pm
I must admit, it was very interesting reading the last hour, or so, of the blog’s comments.
Anyway, have the Braves announced the time of the press conference for the, Rimero Pena, signing, yet?
Hi LAdy!
74bravesjersey
December 15th, 2012
8:10 pm
VaBravesFan; lol…. yeah, my mother in law up from Texas had us pull’n out the candles, 7 the crackers. She was suggesting we start boarding up the windows & doors just in case the Looters came around, oh that was hilarious. Some body at work told me they saw a fireball meteor shooting across the sky real fast this morn’in.
74bravesjersey
December 15th, 2012
8:13 pm
My Bad; gotta correct my fumble fingers; meant to say was ” & the crackers”.
George_George
December 15th, 2012
8:14 pm
nolie
December 15th, 2012
4:17 pm
I am not saying that they will not spend any more, I’m sure they will, I just don’t think it is a given that it will be on an above average LFer . They could decide to extend Heyward and/or etc and use some that way, also very likely a bench player will be picked up. it would still leave us with a hole in CF/third
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I kinda think FA that we would want for LF are by now mostly signed elsewhere,. I think MARTEN should be at 3RD BASE this year and that 10 MILL or so left should be used in part to sign him to new contract NOW, do not let him slip away. As far as LF goes FRANK should look to improve it by trade. I would like to see what BOS or NYY would want for ELLSBURY or SWISHER.
74bravesjersey
December 15th, 2012
8:14 pm
Man, Swamp people & Honey boo-boo are the best doomsday preppers I’ve seen so far.
VaBravesFan
December 15th, 2012
8:15 pm
http://www.universetoday.com/98927/close-approach-image-of-asteroid-2012-xe54/
A newly discovered small asteroid named 2012 XE54 passed harmlessly by Earth early today and as predicted it was eclipsed by Earth’s shadow, causing its light to “wink out” for a short time, about 40 minutes.
cabravesfan
December 15th, 2012
8:16 pm
Hey Tom
74bravesjersey
December 15th, 2012
8:17 pm
cabravesfan;VaBravesFan;Lew;Jeffrey; anybody else,George, would Scotty Hairston be a decent add’n? Respond ASAP, I gotta go.
VaBravesFan
December 15th, 2012
8:20 pm
To me if the price is right sure. He’d add depth to our platoon in LF, but he’s likely to get a 2 year deal around 10-15 million total. Which puts him outta price range for such a player and role. I don’t view him as a everyday player.
TheOnlyBravesFan
December 15th, 2012
8:20 pm
MLB Trade Rumors @mlbtraderumors
Yankees, Angels Discussed Vernon Wells http://bit.ly/URmA7N #mlb
Wow.
74bravesjersey
December 15th, 2012
8:21 pm
VaBravesFan; Good diggs on the meteor. Ya’ll have a good one. I enjoyed da’ blogg’n.
cabravesfan
December 15th, 2012
8:22 pm
74bravesjersey-
Probably not horrible, but not star material…may be worth a shot- he’d be cheap
Lee in S GA
December 15th, 2012
8:25 pm
“What’s with Hawks games not being on local TV anymore? This is probably the 5th one this season.”
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Especially with the season they are having so far….why don’t peachtree T.V. pick then up as well as the Braves
VaBravesFan
December 15th, 2012
8:25 pm
Jonny Gomes received 2 years 10 million and he only played around 80 games in 2012 I believe. Hairston played over 130 games and slugged over 500 for the Mets, only made 1.1 million in 2012.
George_George
December 15th, 2012
8:26 pm
Outta here for BULLS basketball. Have a good one, nite all
Half Empty
December 15th, 2012
8:29 pm
Hairston had a much better year than normal last season didn’t he?
JasonInFL
December 15th, 2012
8:32 pm
I am surprised the Jays and Mets trade hasn’t been announced yet. Maybe the Braves are trying to get Dickey so they can include one of their pitchers for Willingham.
TheOnlyBravesFan
December 15th, 2012
8:32 pm
yep HE… first year in his career over .800 OPS or .500 slugging. Bench player, fine, but starter no. We’ve already got Reed, no need for Hairston.
cab- So would you be against a trade for Bourjos entirely, or are you just saying that we can do better than him? Do you think he has potential that would be good for the Braves to acquire on the cheap right now?
cabravesfan
December 15th, 2012
8:34 pm
JasonInFL-
Rumor is that the trade won’t be made if Dickey doesn’t sign an extension with the Jays, but not sure if that is actually true…
JasonInFL
December 15th, 2012
8:34 pm
Hairston’s OBP was .299, but he slugged at at .504 clip for a .803 OPS.
JasonInFL
December 15th, 2012
8:36 pm
TOBF, first year over .800 where he played 100+ games.
Thanks, CAB. I still think FW is thinking outside the box to improve the club. I was joking about the Dickey thing, but I wouldn’t be surprised if he is working several angles where getting us a LF is the 2nd move or so in the overall scheme.
cabravesfan
December 15th, 2012
8:36 pm
TOBF-
Braves can get him cheap and he can be a decent lead off guy, but I’m just not excited about him. I also am concerned about his ability to play left field.
TheOnlyBravesFan
December 15th, 2012
8:37 pm
JIM BOWDEN @JimBowdenESPNxm
Jerry DiPoto “If we took field today, I think it’d be Trumbo in LF Trout in CF Hamilton in RF w/ Trumbo shifting to DH vs Lefties Bourjos CF
Nah, keep Morales. Move Peter.
Joey G
December 15th, 2012
8:37 pm
I read KC is over their desired payroll by $10-12M. Alex Gordon make around $10M. Atlanta has about $10m to spend. sounds like a good trade partner. Teheran + ?? for Gordon?
JasonInFL
December 15th, 2012
8:37 pm
JIM BOWDEN @JimBowdenESPNxm
Jerry DiPoto “If we took field today, I think it’d be Trumbo in LF Trout in CF Hamilton in RF w/ Trumbo shifting to DH vs Lefties Bourjos CF
JasonInFL
December 15th, 2012
8:39 pm
Oops…day late and a dollar short…story of my life.
jeffrey d
December 15th, 2012
8:39 pm
I mean, kudos to the Blue Jays for contending, but they already gave up prospects in the deal with Miami. Is it worth it to give up more prospects for 38-year-old Dickey?
JasonInFL
December 15th, 2012
8:39 pm
I just don’t think KC is going to trade him, Joey G. If they do, absolutely. Probably the best option after Choo of those that have even been rumored to be available.
cabravesfan
December 15th, 2012
8:39 pm
JasonInFL-
I think Wren is much craftier and smart than a lot of folks on the blog give him credit for. He likes to keep things close to the vest in terms of players he is interested in, and with plenty of time left to pull something off, it wouldn’t surprise me either if he did something totally out of the blue
JasonInFL
December 15th, 2012
8:40 pm
Dickey and Willingham would cost a combined 12 million this year!!
cabravesfan
December 15th, 2012
8:40 pm
*smarter…
Joey G
December 15th, 2012
8:42 pm
Gordon makes so much sence for this team. If you wer Dayton Moore what are you asking for?
Joey G
December 15th, 2012
8:42 pm
Gordon makes so much sence for this team. If you wer Dayton Moore what are you asking for?
SNEAKY PETE
December 15th, 2012
8:42 pm
yes, Hairston is a career 100 OPS+ hitter who had pretty much of a career year last season
cabravesfan
December 15th, 2012
8:42 pm
Dickey and Willingham would cost a combined 12 million this year!!
Sure, in actual salary. What they would cost in players is probably not worth it
Lee in S GA
December 15th, 2012
8:43 pm
It would be nice to see either the Blue Jays, Devil Rays or Orioles (in no certain order) be at the top of that division and see the Yankees and the Rex Sox BOTH on the bottom for once.
JasonInFL
December 15th, 2012
8:43 pm
Agreed, CAB. I am just an inpatient SOB and think we are an impact type player in LF from being legit WS contenders. I think we will be competitive even if we don’t get one, but a Choo, Gordon, Willingham, Upton, etc puts right there.
SNEAKY PETE
December 15th, 2012
8:45 pm
keep Bourjos, trade us Morales. we can put him on a diet and in left
Venice Jim
December 15th, 2012
8:46 pm
Nolie’s Ip address was banned for a lot less than VJ does everyday.
Stop lying about my record…
Amazing how some people totally make stuff up to be funny and cute…
cabravesfan
December 15th, 2012
8:46 pm
JasonInFL-
Take a deep breath, drink some nog, eat some roast beast, enjoy the holidays, and worry about the Braves in January (or February. Or April when the season starts)
Also, cross Choo & Upton off that list, and don’t get your hopes up for Willingham. Gordon, I have no idea about
TheOnlyBravesFan
December 15th, 2012
8:47 pm
impact left fielder away… yep. I agree with that. If we can’t get one though, I’d love to get a buy low, high upside guy though… leadoff hitter next year possibly
JasonInFL
December 15th, 2012
8:48 pm
Gordon too.
I don’t think he is available either.