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TheOnlyBravesFan
December 15th, 2012
10:37 am
adiós= good bye
Back this afternoon, y’all. Tell Frank to call Dipoto on Bourjos please…
old man
December 15th, 2012
10:41 am
If Bill James is right, and 7 of our guys together generate .255 more OPS points, what exactly is that?
Well, take last year’s team, except give Jason this line:
.340 .430 .640 1.070
Pretty ridiculous, but that’s an extra .255 OPS points. If Jason had done that, where would we have finished up in 2012?
So the people who say we will score runs next year may have a point.
old man
December 15th, 2012
10:43 am
TOBF
It just sounded ominous. Like you were going to slit your wrists cuz we didn’t get Bourjos.
Glad you will be back.
JasonInFL
December 15th, 2012
10:43 am
I would include Gilmartin for Trumbo in a heartbeat, no?
jeffrey d
December 15th, 2012
10:50 am
jeffrey d- I keep hearing how we can’t replace Chipper as if he were still playing a full season and putting up HOF numbers.
I never said Chipper was putting up HOF numbers.
You said it was crazy for anybody to think that the Braves wouldn’t score runs.
I said the Braves were 7th out of 16 in runs scored last year. They lost Chipper (led the team in OPS last year). They lost their leadoff hitter Bourn. They gained BJ Upton who hit .246 and in 34 more games just drove in 16 more runs than Chipper.
Efrim
December 15th, 2012
10:50 am
Yeah, I think Choo made the most sense for this team and Frank Wren knew it. Bauer was just more than we had to offer, and is probably a better pitching prospect than Teheran or Delgado.
jeffrey d
December 15th, 2012
10:51 am
Sounds about right…but the poor toilet…
JasonInFL
December 15th, 2012
10:54 am
Efrim, I didn’t realize Bauer was rated that high. The funny think is the Reds didn’t really give up much. It was Towers who really stopped us from getting Choo when he was willing to trade Bauer for the SS prospect. If the 3-way wouldn’t have materialized, I bet FW would have gotten Choo.
Venice Jim
December 15th, 2012
10:55 am
Ken Rosenthal @Ken_Rosenthal
#Phillies indeed in agreement with free-agent LHP John Lannan, as reported by @JSalisburyCSN. Pending physical.
Heath
December 15th, 2012
10:59 am
Lew:
Lots of power in the current Braves lineup, yes. Still, going to be paying attention RISP. We always forget to talk about it until it becomes to awful to ignore during the season…
Brava
December 15th, 2012
11:08 am
Joel Sherman @Joelsherman1
Was told yest Dickey resistant to do extension with #Bluejays, but Tor will not include D’Arnaud/do deal without extension and (cont) #Mets
Brava
December 15th, 2012
11:09 am
Amanda Comak @acomak
Source confirms John Lannan agreed to deal w #Phillies, as @jsalisburyCSN reported. Per @jonheymanCBS it’s 1yr, $2.5m w/$2.5m in incentives.
Brava
December 15th, 2012
11:10 am
Kevin McAlpin @KevinMcAlpin
42-52 w/a 4.01 ERA lifetime. However 9-5 w/a 3.20 in 16 starts vs #Braves. RT @JonHeymanCBS: lannan gets 1 yr deal with phils
Brava
December 15th, 2012
11:14 am
Joel Sherman @Joelsherman1
#Bluejays feel must sacrifice some prospects to take adv of 3-yr window with prime-age players such as Bautista/Reyes/Encarnacion, etc #Mets
Brava
December 15th, 2012
11:21 am
Adam Rubin @AdamRubinESPN
From TOR: RT @RGriffinStar: If Jays include d’Arnaud & Gose for Dickey, need to have him signed for 2-year extension & top #mets prospect.
JasonInFL
December 15th, 2012
11:21 am
Plus, the AL East is down a little bit from previous years. The Sox were awful last year and haven’t made significant strides this offseason, IMO. The Yanks will be competitive, but not a powerhouse. I think the Jays are picking the opportune time to go for it.
Brava
December 15th, 2012
11:23 am
Ken Rosenthal @Ken_Rosenthal
Hamilton passed physical. Deal with #Angels official. News conference in Anaheim at 2:30 p.m. ET.
George_George
December 15th, 2012
11:23 am
jeffrey d
December 15th, 2012
10:50 am
jeffrey d- I keep hearing how we can’t replace Chipper as if he were still playing a full season and putting up HOF numbers.
I never said Chipper was putting up HOF numbers.
You said it was crazy for anybody to think that the Braves wouldn’t score runs.
I said the Braves were 7th out of 16 in runs scored last year. They lost Chipper (led the team in OPS last year). They lost their leadoff hitter Bourn. They gained BJ Upton who hit .246 and in 34 more games just drove in 16 more runs than Chipper
**************************************************************
Good morning all
Thank you jeffrey for pointing out how poor BJs numbers were, and that was only last year, the three years before that were no better. 75 MILL? GOOD GRIEF.
JasonInFL
December 15th, 2012
11:24 am
Upton is going to surprise a lot of people. I think he will work with Walk and may get off to a slow start much like J-Hey last year and then hit his stride. He will be better than he has been since ‘09.
Brava
December 15th, 2012
11:32 am
Don’t know if you all have read this, but I get the sense, after reading it, that we are likely to end up with the internal options.
Wren content, but still eyeing possible improvements
http://atlanta.braves.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20121214&content_id=40657082&vkey=news_atl&c_id=atl#disqus_thread
George_George
December 15th, 2012
11:40 am
Please check out the post below. Lets all try to help McFann, she has had a rough year because of HEAP.
**************
Tom O’Hawke
December 15th, 2012
1:46 am
This is a reminder for the rest of you nighttime-stragglers and for the early-am crew.
McFann, thanks to her support here and with her other friends, has made it into the finals of her photo/knitting contest.
This time, no comments are necessary, just a check mark and a submit (Vote).
This is the site: http://mochimochiland.com/2012/12/mochimochi-photo-contest-12-the-big-vote/
McFann’s is, “Gnome Picnic”, not Gnomepaste. Just a check mark on that one and a click on Vote, and you’re finished. However, you’re only allowed to vote once.
McFann would also like to tell you that it’s OK if you vote for any of the others (however, I’LL break some of your bones if you do).
Heath
December 15th, 2012
11:47 am
Fangraphs guy on MLBN interview just said he only sees Bourn getting $50M-$60M now… if so, he will regret not taking that qualifying offer, no?
JoeBrave
December 15th, 2012
11:52 am
Pretty sure Bourn is gonna regret not talking extension with Frank last season!
JoeBrave
December 15th, 2012
11:54 am
I see Bourn at 5/52.5 mil…. that is all he is worth
jeffrey d
December 15th, 2012
12:00 pm
I’m skeptical about Upton, but at the very least, he’s not another lefty.
…and at best, he lives up to his potential and becomes a superstar
Jerry
December 15th, 2012
12:03 pm
Over the past several days here and on Facebook, a lot has been said about Paul Lentz. Personally speaking, I believe a lot of you idiots created Lentz. You push his buttons and then complain about the responses you receive. Here’s a thought, why not try to debate an issue nicely before you attack someone’s intelligence. And don’t say any number of you haven’t committed this infraction because I, as well as others, have been the brunt of your unyielding beliefs. All in all, there is always another side to every story. Some of you could care less to hear that other side.
George_George
December 15th, 2012
12:04 pm
jeffrey d
December 15th, 2012
12:00 pm
I’m skeptical about Upton, but at the very least, he’s not another lefty.
…and at best, he lives up to his potential and becomes a superstar
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BJ has had four poor years in a row. I am a BRAVES fan so hope he does a lot better this year.
JasonInFL
December 15th, 2012
12:07 pm
JIM BOWDEN @JimBowdenESPNxm
Sandy Alderson’s deals with Carlos Beltran and now RA Dickey are the absolute maximum possible returns PERIOD!!
Couldn’t agree more…
Brava
December 15th, 2012
12:15 pm
JIM BOWDEN @JimBowdenESPNxm
Multiple AL clubs in play for Kendrys Morales as it appears Halos want to hold on to both Trumbo & Bourjos.possible destinations? TB Hou Cle
JC Brave
December 15th, 2012
12:20 pm
Kevin McAlpin @KevinMcAlpin
42-52 w/a 4.01 ERA lifetime. However 9-5 w/a 3.20 in 16 starts vs #Braves.
Amazing.
Upton is going to surprise a lot of people.
I’m a believer until he proves otherwise.
JC Brave
December 15th, 2012
12:24 pm
Pretty sure Bourn is gonna regret not talking extension with Frank last season!
There are a couple of needy teams out there, so don’t count on that. Mariners and Rangers are both in need of a “productive” OFer after Hamilton’s signing.
JasonInFL
December 15th, 2012
12:26 pm
Bring Bourny back on a one year deal so he can hit the market again next year…
Brava
December 15th, 2012
12:26 pm
8m MLB MLB @MLB
Halos writer @Alden_Gonzalez reports @thejoshhamilton, who’ll be introduced at 2:30 ET, gets no-trade clause, backloaded deal ($15M in ‘13).
Brava
December 15th, 2012
12:27 pm
I don’t see the Rangers going for Bourn. They need offensive production.
JC Brave
December 15th, 2012
12:33 pm
I don’t see the Rangers going for Bourn. They need offensive production.
Well, there aren’t a lot of options on the trade market, it appears. Desperation might become a factor.
jeffrey d
December 15th, 2012
12:36 pm
Halos writer @Alden_Gonzalez reports @thejoshhamilton, who’ll be introduced at 2:30 ET, gets no-trade clause, backloaded deal ($15M in ‘13).
I understand sports money isn’t the same as real world money (as in it’ll take me about 10 years to make the major league minimum salary). But at some point, isn’t enough enough? Considering that a gigantic contract will handcuff your team from putting pieces around you? And especially considering that when you’re in the last years of that contract you’re really crippling your team and keeping it from being productive?
JasonInFL
December 15th, 2012
12:42 pm
Chipper had a .930 OPS for his career. I think some, even on here, do not completely appreciate how good the man was at baseball. I was glad to see him make the top 50 in the ESPN Hall of 100.
David O'Brien
December 15th, 2012
12:43 pm
Bourjos had impressive stats in only full major-league season in ‘11 and throughout his minor league career. Only time he didn’t was when he was a part-time player in ‘10 and ‘12. Ton of speed, lot of triples and stolen bases and good average and OBP in minors (nearly .360 OBP over his last two seasons in minors).
David O'Brien
December 15th, 2012
12:46 pm
I understand sports money isn’t the same as real world money (as in it’ll take me about 10 years to make the major league minimum salary). But at some point, isn’t enough enough? Considering that a gigantic contract will handcuff your team from putting pieces around you? — jeffrey d
Have you seen the gargantuan TV deal the Angels signed? Not as big as Dodgers’ deal, but huge. Absolutely dwarfs what Braves and other teams get. Hamilton’s contract and Pujols’ contract, which would also be an albatross in the latter years of the deal for most teams, still won’t cripple the Angels or prevent them from spending elsewhere. They’re making that much off their TV deal.
Brava
December 15th, 2012
12:49 pm
Chipper Jones @RealCJ10
From everyone in Braves Country, our prayers are with the families affected in the Newtown tragedy! Please hug ur kids extra tight tonite!!!
Brava
December 15th, 2012
12:54 pm
Peter Moylan @PeterMoylan
If you’re at LAX I’m the guy with the “will work for food” sign. Come say hello
jeffrey d
December 15th, 2012
12:57 pm
Have you seen the gargantuan TV deal the Angels signed?
True, but in at least 2 years Pujols and/or Hamilton will be declining and will eventually be like Jason Giambi or Mo Vaughn at the end of their careers. Making a ton of money but not producing anything
JasonInFL
December 15th, 2012
12:59 pm
Greg Maddux voted 3rd best pitcher of all time on ESPN’s Hall of 100 behind Walter Johnson and Roger Clemens.
jeffrey d
December 15th, 2012
1:02 pm
Oh they posted the top 25? Thanks Jason…I was wondering where Maddux would land. I thought Glavine was too low, but I’m also a little biased
CB
December 15th, 2012
1:04 pm
Bourjos would be a decent addition if we can get him for right price, I do believe 2011 is more of a reflection of who he is when healthy. He would also fall in that category of athletic players Wren loves. I am concerned of what Angels would ask for, couple top prospects probably.
JasonInFL
December 15th, 2012
1:09 pm
Me too, Jeffrey D. Maddux at 13 made me happy though. Also, thought Smoltz and Chipper got pretty good rankings.
abeeeewright
December 15th, 2012
1:13 pm
jeffrey d … “The team that was 7th in the NL in runs scored last year lost a legend who was one of the team’s top OPS’ers …”
For 120 games.
jeffrey d … “and lost their leadoff hitter too. “
Who’s OBP was in the low .300s.
Upton replaces Chipper’s lost power, while maintaining Bourn’s OBP.
Braves need OBP and a little pop in LF to make up the remaining slack in offense.
If McCann and Uggla come back to career norms and if Heyward, Freeman, and Simmons take steps forward, this offense will be much better than last year’s, even if they put Franscisco/Constanza/Schafer/Johnson into the eight hole.
Joreed Franstanza?
JC Brave
December 15th, 2012
1:13 pm
What was Chipper’s ranking?
BravePack(FreeFan)
December 15th, 2012
1:15 pm
David O’Brien
December 15th, 2012
12:43 pm
Bourjos had impressive stats in only full major-league season in ‘11 and throughout his minor league career. Only time he didn’t was when he was a part-time player in ‘10 and ‘12. Ton of speed, lot of triples and stolen bases and good average and OBP in minors (nearly .360 OBP over his last two seasons in minors).
Hopefully DOB knows something and is preparing us for Bourjos on the Braves. He’s read how many people are against it and he’s trying to calm those haters down by posting some nice stats for the guy. Personally I would like the guy on the Braves, another great fielder and pretty good hitter when healthy.
CB
December 15th, 2012
1:16 pm
Bowman says he believes we could get Trumbo for either Teheran,Delgado or Gilmartin. I would do Gilmartin plus another prospect for him. He fits a lot of our needs.
jeffrey d
December 15th, 2012
1:20 pm
Upton replaces Chipper’s lost power, while maintaining Bourn’s OBP.
Oh I get it. Upton is the perfect player. He replaces Chipper’s power with Bourn’s OBP and he’ll dye his hair red to replace Hanson.
I have high expectations for Upton (and we should considering his contract) but the truth is that he hasn’t hit over .250 since 2007. He’s OPS’ed over .800 in 1 season out of 8.
Again, my comment was only in reference to Lew’s “What idiot that doesn’t agree with me thinks that the Braves won’t score runs this year??”
The Braves were 7th out of 16 teams in runs scored last year. When you lose Chipper and Bourn and replace them with .246 hitting Upton, can’t you compromise that there is some room to argue that there’s a question mark concerning the Braves’ offense?
keyLargo
December 15th, 2012
1:20 pm
Football junkies can catch “The New Mexico Bowl” on ESPN now. Arizona vs. Nevada.
JasonInFL
December 15th, 2012
1:25 pm
Chipper was #49
David O'Brien
December 15th, 2012
1:26 pm
24 hours later, just another day in America….
BIRMINGHAM, Ala. (AP) — Authorities in Alabama say a man opened fire in a hospital, wounding an officer and two employees before he was fatally shot by police.
Birmingham Police Sgt. Johnny Williams says the officer and employees suffered injuries that are not considered life-threatening.
Williams says police were called because a man with a gun was walking through St. Vincent’s Hospital on Saturday morning. When he was confronted by officers, he started shooting and wounded one of the officers. That’s when the second officer shot and killed the man.
Heath
December 15th, 2012
1:26 pm
35 bowls… Meh. That’s just to much.
David O'Brien
December 15th, 2012
1:27 pm
Hopefully DOB knows something and is preparing us for Bourjos on the Braves.
Sorry, I really don’t. Just making an observation. I’m actually off through Sunday. Carroll’s been covering and keeping up with things this week.
Heath
December 15th, 2012
1:28 pm
DOB:
Just nuts, huh?
JasonInFL
December 15th, 2012
1:30 pm
DOB, still think Frank is being aggressive and racking up the cell phone minutes?
jeffrey d
December 15th, 2012
1:33 pm
I’m actually off through Sunday
What?? You get days off??!? Don’t let George George know
Joey G
December 15th, 2012
1:43 pm
If FW were to send pitching to LAA for either Bourjos or Trumbo, I wish he would sign Kyle Lohse to replace the pitching he is trading. Lohse would give an established veteran starter. Maybe a little less than Hudson caliber, but would still be a great signing. What kind of $$/years would it take?
Joey G
December 15th, 2012
1:43 pm
If FW were to send pitching to LAA for either Bourjos or Trumbo, I wish he would sign Kyle Lohse to replace the pitching he is trading. Lohse would give an established veteran starter. Maybe a little less than Hudson caliber, but would still be a great signing. What kind of $$/years would it take?
jeffrey d
December 15th, 2012
1:43 pm
George George once worked 2,633 days with his hair on fire, including weekends, holidays, and the day his car exploded
JasonInFL
December 15th, 2012
1:45 pm
I wonder if Fowler is still in play at all? Rox can’t be serious about that asking price. I like Dexter’s .389 OBP and the fact that he is from the Atl and good friends with J-Hey. As Lew pointed out a couple of days back, he may be one that would truly prosper from the ol’ change of scenery.
abeeeewright
December 15th, 2012
1:50 pm
abwright … “Braves need OBP and a little pop in LF to make up the remaining slack in offense.”
jeffrey d … “can’t you compromise that there is some room to argue that there’s a question mark concerning the Braves’ offense?”
I’ve consistently said that the Braves’ ceiling is lower right now than it was in 2012 … because they’ve lost 120+ games of Chipper’s OBP.
However, that loss will be more than made up if the Braves players who under-performed (drastically) return to their career norms.
Not 1 out of 16, but better than 7 out of 16.
Of course, if everybody under-performs, Braves won’t score worth a d**n.
JasonInFL
December 15th, 2012
1:50 pm
Lohse is going to get paid. In this market, he is going to get 13-15 mill a year for 3 years of so. Probably a 3/39 contract.
JasonInFL
December 15th, 2012
1:52 pm
If we got Trumbo, I wonder if the Braves would put him at 3rd. Seems to be better defensively in the IF.
JasonInFL
December 15th, 2012
1:54 pm
Ooops…thought Trumbo had played more 3B…wonder if Morales could pass in LF?
ugaaccountant
December 15th, 2012
1:54 pm
That’s an insult to put Clemens above Maddux. It shows an ignorance of pitching value and contributions towards winning games, and let’s not forget he’s an obvious cheater regardless of legal findings.
JC Brave
December 15th, 2012
1:54 pm
Thanks, Jason.
CB
December 15th, 2012
1:58 pm
Jason, Trumbo was horrible last year at 3rd. Morales can barely run after broken leg.
abeeeewright
December 15th, 2012
1:58 pm
“George George once worked 2,633 days with his hair on fire, including weekends, holidays, and the day his car exploded”
Is the car explosion how his hair caught fire?
JasonInFL
December 15th, 2012
1:58 pm
Forget 73 homers. In 2004, this guy reached base 376 times, walked 232 times and was intentionally walked 120 times. In one year. And here’s my all-time favorite Bonds stat: Even if he’d gotten no hits that year, he still would have had a higher OBP than the player who led the league in hits. –Jayson Stark
JasonInFL
December 15th, 2012
1:59 pm
Yeah, you are correct CB.
JasonInFL
December 15th, 2012
2:01 pm
You are welcome, JC Brave
keyLargo
December 15th, 2012
2:02 pm
If FW were to send pitching to LAA for either Bourjos or Trumbo, I wish he would sign Kyle Lohse to replace the pitching he is trading.
I was staggered by the Tigers signing Anabel Sanchez for 5 years/$80M. He not even a .500 pitcher over his career with and ERA around 3.75 and a WHIP of 1.29.
Lohse went 30 – 11 with a 3.11 ERA, 400 IP and a WHIP of 1.13 the last two years.
I don’t know what he will sign for but those stats don’t sound like something the Braves can afford.
Joey G
December 15th, 2012
2:04 pm
JasoninFL
You wouldn’t sign Lohse to that contract. He’s not a stud #1 but he would fit nicely into this rotation. With Hudson he would add another veteran who knows how to win.
JasonInFL
December 15th, 2012
2:06 pm
Joey G, not saying I wouldn’t, but we don’t have the funds.
jeffrey d
December 15th, 2012
2:07 pm
Is the car explosion how his hair caught fire?
No. And that’s what’s special about George George. He went to work with the fire on his hair on fire.
Powderfinger
December 15th, 2012
2:17 pm
I think his hair caught fire when his brain exploded. Which was probably a result of overuse of capital letters…
Joey G
December 15th, 2012
2:19 pm
Jason
Unfortunately true. I wish FW could figure a way to sign him. I just think another established started would be great. It would also take a lot of presure off Medlin and Minor.
Gone Viral
December 15th, 2012
2:28 pm
FWIW, abeeeewright, I believe your evaluation of our offense is absolutely correct.
JasonInFL
December 15th, 2012
2:29 pm
Joey G…I agree. I was hoping FW would find a creative way to trade for Willingham and sign Lohse (early on), but alas, not happening. We either trade prospects for a LF or we go with what I feel are the dreaded internal options.
jj
December 15th, 2012
2:33 pm
I would really like to know what Wren offered for Choo in his “aggressive” offer
Gone Viral
December 15th, 2012
2:36 pm
I do think that credit should be given to Mejia, Francisco and White Bear for playing so well in Winter League ball that they have forced the Braves to reconsider options. If they were struggling, I’m confident we would already have another bat by now.
Joey G
December 15th, 2012
2:37 pm
I am suprised no one on the blog has brought up the annual talk of bringing in Marlon Byrd to play LF. The same with Ryan Spillbourgs.
nolie
December 15th, 2012
2:40 pm
I believe a lot of you idiots created Lentz. You push his buttons and then complain about the responses you receive. Here’s a thought, why not try to debate an issue nicely before you attack someone’s intelligence. And don’t say any number of you haven’t committed this infraction because I, as well as others, have been the brunt of your unyielding beliefs….Jerry
what a total bunch of crap. The guy is all over Face Book and other sites and just as batshyt crazy as he is here. If you would not talk so much stupid trash so negatively every time you come on more people would be receptive to a conversation with you
cabravesfan
December 15th, 2012
2:45 pm
I’ve never insulted him, and I have tried to have rational conversations with him. Yet he still wrote horrible things about me on Facebook and attacked me here.
nolie
December 15th, 2012
2:50 pm
he is a narcissist, they think they know everything and can not stand to be argued with
jeffrey d
December 15th, 2012
2:52 pm
I’ve never insulted him, and I have tried to have rational conversations with him. Yet he still wrote horrible things about me on Facebook and attacked me here.
Who, PL? That’s his play. He likes anarchy and things going to hell on account of his name. Don’t feed the fire. Ignore him. He’s a lonesome dove who needs some help in his head.
Heath
December 15th, 2012
2:55 pm
Wait… People are “friends” with Lentz on FB? (I shut off my page over a year ago.)
cabravesfan
December 15th, 2012
2:56 pm
Heath-
No but he showed up on one of the fan pages. He’s blocked on my feed but not VJ’s
JasonInFL
December 15th, 2012
3:09 pm
Personally, I don’t put a lot of stock in Winter league stats. Heck, Constanza has had a couple of great seasons in winter ball…
nolie
December 15th, 2012
3:16 pm
not do I Jason, AA level at best
ncbravesfan90
December 15th, 2012
3:27 pm
Ken Rosenthal @Ken_Rosenthal
Sources: #Phillies intensifying pursuit of Cody Ross. Other teams also being more aggressive. #Mariners among those that have shown interest
nolie
December 15th, 2012
3:41 pm
Ross might have a real good year up there
JasonInFL
December 15th, 2012
3:45 pm
Troy Renck @TroyRenck
Told this weekend that no trade talks brewing w Braves or Rangers on Fowler. Thought something might percolate. Rox source said no
JasonInFL
December 15th, 2012
3:46 pm
It is looking more and more like internal options are going to win out. Shame, really. Money and prospects, but a worse team. Oh well, good enough to compete.
VaBravesFan
December 15th, 2012
3:48 pm
Paul Lentz actually has randomly messaged me on facebook talking crap about a 3 year old boy…. He’s sending these messages days after our last contact. I’m not egging him on at all. The guy has SERIOUS ISSUES. I went back and read his facebook wall and he has mentioned about going to his shrink and so on. The dude is a looney. You can’t even disagree with his baseball opinions without getting personal attacks as a response.
He basically called DOB and all of us on the blog morons and so on, All I said was “your the moron” and he totally took it 100 steps further. Actually talking crap about my girlfriend and her son and so on. After we had those comments on the DOB page, I stopped all contact and then a couple days later received a random message from him. Saying “How’s that retarded inbred bastard kid your raising doing today?”
The guy has serious problems.
Efrim
December 15th, 2012
3:49 pm
Personally, I don’t put a lot of stock in Winter league stats. Heck, Constanza has had a couple of great seasons in winter ball…
not do I Jason, AA level at best
Totally agree. Nice to see it, but I would never not make a move because of what I’ve see there. They have been in the minors or majors long enough for evaluations. A small sample of winter league games should not sway front office folk….and if it is, well, then that is truly a shame.
ncbravesfan90
December 15th, 2012
3:49 pm
“It is looking more and more like internal options are going to win out. Shame, really. Money and prospects, but a worse team. Oh well, good enough to compete.”
Something has to give. $12-15 mil left to spend and no LF. I could see going with internal options if we only had $4-5 mil left to spend. But you don’t save the kind of money we have right now for the trade deadline, it just don’t happen and it won’t this time either. Wren will get someone.