In last year on HOF ballot, case made for ‘Murph’

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old man

December 13th, 2012
4:46 pm

In 2011, when healthy, Bourjos had a league leading 11 triples. Better than anything, that tells you the kind of player he is. He has some sting in his bat. Ultimately, he’ll hit 20 HRs. Tremendous range in the OF. Good arm. He is the player we all thought Schafer was going to become.

But—124 Ks in his good year, 2011. That gave him a 22% K rate.

That’s giving me pause.

Half Empty

December 13th, 2012
4:47 pm

I meant deadline trades, which is what I thought you were referring to

ChattTownBrian

December 13th, 2012
4:47 pm

Enter your comments here

Cliff Fiscal

December 13th, 2012
4:47 pm

With regard to Hamilton, it is not like there are no temptations in Dallas for drugs and alcohol. Maybe LA has more temptations, but if he is going to slip it could be most anywhere.

P'cola Brave

December 13th, 2012
4:47 pm

Texas would be smart to jump in on Laroche. I would think he’d like to play there. If I remember correctly he lives there in Kansar or Oklahoma. Would be a good addition for the Rangers to fill some of the void they’ve lost w/ Young and Hamilton gone.

ncscoots

December 13th, 2012
4:48 pm

But being a celebrity in LA, that’s dangerous for a regular person to get mixed up in drugs very easily.

Not as if he’s never been to LA before.

Half Empty

December 13th, 2012
4:48 pm

Bourjos hit 20 homers? hmmmmm

Rick C

December 13th, 2012
4:51 pm

Half Empty, no he hit 12 HR in 2011.

PaBravefan

December 13th, 2012
4:51 pm

TRUMBO!!! The guy is a beast! Perfect for Left field. Power, decent average, drives in runs can be controlled for 4 more years. Only down side is that he is a Super 2 guy which means he is going to have 4 years of arbitration eligibility. I would trade Delgado or Teheran/ spruill/ and Ahmed for him. Maybe more! He would be there for 4 years!!

ncscoots

December 13th, 2012
4:51 pm

Texas would be smart to jump in on Laroche. I would think he’d like to play there.

Especially if the Hamilton signing adds $10MM to his total contract value, LOL.

brian

December 13th, 2012
4:51 pm

LaRoche would be perfect for the Orioles. Hope he goes to Baltimore

old man

December 13th, 2012
4:52 pm

RC

He probably would produce more than internal options. But he would also lock up roughly $7-8 million each year for the next 2-3 years. I’d like someone BETTER than Ross, but if that’s not available, the difference in him and internal options is not worth the contract he’d get.

Ditto what you said.

Is Bourjos still in the mix? A bargain 1st year arb and 4 years of control. That would be better. Would they trade him for Spruill or Gilmartin?

VaBravesFan

December 13th, 2012
4:52 pm

Our in house solutions which will likely have Prado playing musical positions again.

LF Evan Gattis, 26 year old, rookie. Questionable defense, but mighty big bat in the minors. Ability to play Catcher as well.

3B Juan Francisco, 25 year old, Horrible approach at the plate with zero discipline, but is in better shape with monster power.

OF Reed Johnson, 36 year old, Classic 4th OFer, ability to play solid defense and hit LHP well.

OF Todd Cunningham, 23 years old, rookie. Athletic player with speed who’s played well in the minors but has little XBH power.

OFer’s Jose Constanza and Jordan Schafer, Oh god please no! We have to do better than these guys. They shouldn’t even be considered for the 25 man roster…

Half Empty

December 13th, 2012
4:53 pm

I was responding to old man’s claim that he will eventually hit 20 homers. I am skeptical

CB

December 13th, 2012
4:53 pm

These infernal options are driving me crazy.

Half Empty

December 13th, 2012
4:55 pm

I would trade Delgado or Teheran/ spruill/ and Ahmed for him. Pa

not me. makes too many outs and stunk it up the second half of last season. No telling what you would get. Power alone is one of the most overrated aspects of hitting

VaBravesFan

December 13th, 2012
4:55 pm

Ichiro getting a 2 year deal is just crazy… I really wish the Phillies would have picked him up… Who in there right mind would offer 14 million over 2 years. At this point in his career he should have been signing a 1 year deal around 3 million.

old man

December 13th, 2012
4:55 pm

Prado has thrived in every defensive situation we have thrown him in. We aren’t running counseling group session here. If he thrives offensively and defensively despite moving around, and that’s what works for us, and really don’t care whether Prado is happy.

Personally, I think he will be happy, but that should not override one way or the other what is best for the club.

Efrim

December 13th, 2012
4:56 pm

I have my doubts that the Braves will trade for a player at the deadline making $15 million in 2013. Also have my doubts that the team trading the player who makes that much will receive fringy minor leaguers in return as oppose to paying the salary themselves and receiving better in the way of prospects. I know, that’s a leap. But the whole “save money for the deadline” stuff is probably not going to produce a trade acquisition that will make us jump for joy.

JasonInFL

December 13th, 2012
4:57 pm

I like the Freeman and Delgado for Stanton and signing LaRoche. Got my vote…. If only…

Half Empty

December 13th, 2012
4:57 pm

it matters if you want him to be back old man.

Cliff Fiscal

December 13th, 2012
4:59 pm

If Wren makes a deal in late December/early January for a LF, he will have played it perfectly for us bloggers in spacing out his deals. Making deals too early, and we become bored by spring training. No deals would have led to us running out of things to discuss. I am sure this blog’s discussions are foremost in Wren’s mind when making deals.

VaBravesFan

December 13th, 2012
4:59 pm

Only thing you know your gonna get with Peter Bourjos is elite level defense and great speed. The bat is questionable for sure. He kinda fits the Braves mold in terms of our postion players prospects. Great athletes who can’t hit.

But when Bourjos was given the opportunity to play everyday in 2011.

147 Games 271/327/438/765 OPS+ 116 49 XBH 22 SB

Pretty good production for a Speedy Defensive Stud.

Half Empty

December 13th, 2012
4:59 pm

I agree Efrim

old man

December 13th, 2012
5:01 pm

Re-posted with missing words included:

Prado has thrived in every defensive situation we have thrown him in. We aren’t running a counseling group session here. If he thrives offensively and defensively despite moving around, and that’s what works for us, I really don’t care whether Prado is happy.

Personally, I think he will be happy whether he moves between two positions or not, but that should not override one way or the other what is best for the club.

ncscoots

December 13th, 2012
5:01 pm

but that should not override one way or the other what is best for the club.

Then all you have to do is define “best for the club”. Short-term, long-term, in the middle, what?

Just because the guy hasn’t spewed bile to the media, doesn’t mean he’s happy.

JasonInFL

December 13th, 2012
5:01 pm

Prado
Upton
J-Hey
Stanton
LaRoche
Uggs
Mac
Simmons

Now, that’s a pretty darn good lineup.

Efrim

December 13th, 2012
5:01 pm

Rangers farm system is loaded and they have tons of money to spend on the free agent market. Options are plentiful, just not sure which path is the most optimal for them.

I have never seen more latin talent than I do in the Rangers system right now. It’s absurd. They’ve poured millions into the international free agent market. Jurickson Profar, Martin Perez, Jorge Alfaro, Luis Sardinas, Rougned Odor, Jairo Beras, Nomar Mazara, Ronald Guzman, etc. Pretty much every top latin July bonus baby goes to Texas.

Efrim

December 13th, 2012
5:05 pm

Texas payroll right now is at like $95 million with the three arbitration eligible players they have in David Murphy, Matt Harrison and Neftali Feliz. It was $120 million last year and was expected to be higher.

Rick C

December 13th, 2012
5:06 pm

They don’t have enough money left to afford LaRoche.

Cliff Fiscal

December 13th, 2012
5:07 pm

Rangers are looking for mid-rotation starters. Would they take a chance and consider an Olt for Teheran trade?

Efrim

December 13th, 2012
5:07 pm

I’d sign Swisher over Laroche if I were them. Fit is better with their needs in the outfield and the presence of Moreland and Olt.

Mixxo

December 13th, 2012
5:07 pm

Frank’s “premier” players = High A/AA internal options.

Deal with it.

Efrim

December 13th, 2012
5:09 pm

Rangers are looking for mid-rotation starters. Would they take a chance and consider an Olt for Teheran trade?

Teheran isn’t a mid-rotation starter presently and you can’t really say that he is a better bet than Martin Perez at this point.

kenhotlanta

December 13th, 2012
5:13 pm

“With regard to Hamilton, it is not like there are no temptations in Dallas for drugs and alcohol. Maybe LA has more temptations, but if he is going to slip it could be most anywhere.”

Well, look how it’s ruined VJ and cab…they’re pathetic, hanging out with Lindsey Lohan and Charlie Sheen. Poor Nala prolly never gets fed anymore. D)

Dadgum.....

December 13th, 2012
5:14 pm

If the Angels don’t win 100 games now they will under achieve. Incredible lineup….and congrats to their management for pulling the off the deal of the year. No question about it. Best lineup in the bigs. Braves need to get busy. Somehow.

JasonInFL

December 13th, 2012
5:15 pm

Wonder what Frank is working on?

Cliff Fiscal

December 13th, 2012
5:16 pm

I am not too baseball bright, but I do realize that Teheran is not a mid-rotation starter yet. That is why I asked if Texas would take a chance. But, would either side or both consider a Maholm for Olt trade? I know there are downsides, but just thinking out loud.

JasonInFL

December 13th, 2012
5:16 pm

Dadgum, we signed Ramon Pena or some Pena…

Venice Jim

December 13th, 2012
5:16 pm

Sad, but true… :(

BravePack(FreeFan)

December 13th, 2012
5:17 pm

As much as I would love to see Gattis the Great White Bear in the Braves line up, it would equally make me sick to imagine what he would look like on defense in LF. I’m thinking he would make Matt Diaz look like Andruw Jones.

VaBravesFan

December 13th, 2012
5:18 pm

Efrim

Who has more trade value between Delgado and Teheran? How do they stack up versus the likes of Graham, Wood, Gilmartin, Sims and Spruill. Do you think we have a handful of guys capable of being atleast #4/5 type starters in the MLB? Or do you see some of them never making it at all.

Cliff Fiscal

December 13th, 2012
5:19 pm

There certainly is some heavy hitting on both LA squads.

Dadgum.....

December 13th, 2012
5:23 pm

Pena is solid but only a backup. Not gonna put fannies in the seats though or win you a title. Nice name though.

VaBravesFan

December 13th, 2012
5:23 pm

Frank Wren is likely calling Jose Constanza and telling him “get ready George, were gonna be counting on you alot this season”.

Cliff Fiscal

December 13th, 2012
5:32 pm

What brings us more fear: (1) the U.S. Government acknowledging that the December 21, 2012 end-of-times apocalypse is true; or (2) your starting leftfielder for the 2013 Atlanta Braves, Jose Constanza?

Murph

December 13th, 2012
5:33 pm

would either side or both consider a Maholm for Olt trade?

Seems like a bit of an overpay… if TX could throw in something else, maybe… but it’s not a move Wren would ever make because that would leave the rotation with Hudson as the only starting pitcher with experience.

Totally unrelated, but damn do I love the Stone Temple Pilots cover of “Dancing Days”. I’m not a big STP fan, but their version of this song is pretty awesome.

Jeff R

December 13th, 2012
5:34 pm

Ahmed? I’m hoping the powers-that-be move Ahmed to second, position him to eventually replace Dan “Mr. Swing and Miss” Uggla.

Jeff R

December 13th, 2012
5:38 pm

What brings us more fear: (1) the U.S. Government acknowledging that the December 21, 2012 end-of-times apocalypse is true; or (2) your starting leftfielder for the 2013 Atlanta Braves, Jose Constanza?

My fear is that thanks to December 21, I won’t get to see Constanza play left in 2013. :(

Cliff Fiscal

December 13th, 2012
5:39 pm

Murph, if Texas could throw in something else, our team would certainly have even more of that youthful, dangerous feel. I realize our pitching staff would be lacking experience, but the time is now for Teheran and Delgado to step up. Plus, if we did remain in contention, the Braves would have even more $$ to pick up somebody mid-season.

I don’t know what to do, and I have faith in Wren. Just thinking outside of the box.

Lew

December 13th, 2012
5:39 pm

No one has said Prado is unhappy – except bloggers here. Never heard Martin complain about anything.

Wren has never said in house solutions included either Constanza or Schafer – only bloggers here have. Who he HAS mentioned is Gattis and Francisco.

Jeff R

December 13th, 2012
5:44 pm

Wren has never said in house solutions included either Constanza or Schafer – only bloggers here have. Who he HAS mentioned is Gattis and Francisco.

Lew, you are correct. But you know how it is here in Fantasy Land…

Cliff Fiscal

December 13th, 2012
5:44 pm

I mention Constanza more in jest than anything else. However, if no trades are made, I bet he will have some starts in LF, though.

Venice Jim

December 13th, 2012
5:47 pm

Ken Rosenthal ‏@Ken_Rosenthal
Sources: #Cubs in serious discussions with Anibal Sanchez. Deal could be 5 years/$75 million. #Tigers still a threat.

Murph

December 13th, 2012
5:49 pm

Cliff, I’d be all for going after Olt… but I also like the idea of big risk = big reward. Go big or go home. No guts no glory.

Plus, my job isn’t at stake in the team’s outcome.

BFChris28

December 13th, 2012
5:49 pm

Sources: #Cubs in serious discussions with Anibal Sanchez. Deal could be 5 years/$75 million. #Tigers still a threat.

Lew

December 13th, 2012
5:53 pm

Cliff – Constanza will likely start the year in Gwinnett – again. He’s only in case of emergency – just like always. He’s been with the team for a couple years now and has played a total of 79 games with 185 AB’s.

He hasn’t played all that much in two years and there’s absolutely no reason to believe he will now.

Cliff Fiscal

December 13th, 2012
5:53 pm

Murph, do you mean big risk=big reward as in your idea to acquire Stanton? I am on board with that idea. It sure might be the one idea to generate buzz and ticket sales with Atlanta fans.

Murph

December 13th, 2012
5:58 pm

Murph, do you mean big risk=big reward as in your idea to acquire Stanton? I am on board with that idea. It sure might be the one idea to generate buzz and ticket sales with Atlanta fans.

It seems like a fair trade for both sides, maybe a slight overpay on the Braves side, but it’s going to take that to get Stanton out of FL.

Would definitely be the best OF in baseball. When healthy. And not pouting.

Add in Laroche’s power and I think you’ve got the most dangerous lineup in the NL.

Cliff Fiscal

December 13th, 2012
5:58 pm

Lew – I think we are in basic agreement about Constanza. I feel he might be involved in few more games this season than his average over the past two seasons but nothing substantial.

CB

December 13th, 2012
5:59 pm

I would trade Maholm for Mike Olt in a heartbeat. Good player with a good future ahead. I don’t believe Texas would do that deal without something else.

BFChris28

December 13th, 2012
6:01 pm

The Cubs have given their rebuilding process a major boost by agreeing to sign free agent right-hander Anibal Sanchez to a five-year contract, reports Bob Nightengale of USA Today. The deal could be worth $75MM, reports FOX Sports’ Ken Rosenthal, who said earlier today that the two sides were close to an agreement. The contract will become official once Sanchez passes a physical.

Cliff Fiscal

December 13th, 2012
6:03 pm

Texas might be entering into a desparation mode like the Braves did a couple of years ago when they overpaid for Lowe. Of course, Texas has many prospects in the minors to try to ease their pain. Still, they might be ripe for a good deal on the Braves side.

VaBravesFan

December 13th, 2012
6:03 pm

Well just looking at the past 2 seasons Jose Constanza has found his way onto our 25 man roster multiple times. Starting 49 games in our Outfield the past 2 years And even just last season actually started 14 flipping games in September/October. So while Wren hasn’t mentioned him as one of our options but he’s certainly looming around that 25th spot on the ballclub. Even tho I can’t believe we didn’t have a better option we actually went 11-3 in the games he started late last season. But we can all agree that is just complete randomness.

Murph

December 13th, 2012
6:03 pm

CB, I dunno… Olt is completely unproven while Maholm has a few good years under his belt. Then again, Maholm will be a free agent at the end of the season so… yeah, you’re probably right. Maybe a mid-level prospect could help get that done.

BFChris28

December 13th, 2012
6:06 pm

Anibal Sanchez/Matt Garza/Jeff Samardzija/Scott Baker/Scott Feldman

Not a bad rotation for Cubs.

Lew

December 13th, 2012
6:06 pm

He was only out there because they had to give Bourn time off and had Prado playing all over the infield while Chipper and Simmons/Janish were out of the lineup.

Murph

December 13th, 2012
6:06 pm

I wish we still had Matt Harrison. I still think he’s going to end up being the “one that got away” when the Tex trade is evaluated in 20 years.

old man

December 13th, 2012
6:06 pm

As much as I like Francisco and the platoon idea, if you make a deal that rules out a platoon situation for more than a year (and I would totally support any good deal that does that), then you need to consider adding Francisco to the deal in order to maximize who you get, or get decent lower and mid prospects thrown in on the other end.

Or if you are concerned about someone like Bourjos showing up for spring training ready to roll, or you are concerned about injuries, I could see keeping him through spring training as insurance, then move him in a late deal.

But keeping Francisco on the bench with the idea of having him as a pinch hitter is a bad idea. If there is one thing my research has uncovered, it’s that he can’t pinch hit. With a one year rental, with the idea of maybe Francisco becoming a platoon or full timer in 2014, I don’t know what you do with him next year. As someone on the bench, he would be a drag on the team. As a platooner, he could excel.

A lot of people seem to want to reward his winter work with a spot on the bench. We need to play him or trade him.

keyLargo

December 13th, 2012
6:06 pm

No chance the Marlins part with Stanton. He’s the most talented and popular player they have left and they have stated publicly to their fan(s) that he will not be traded.

PS – look for the Marlins to trade Stanton the next time Bud Selig hasn’t threatened them that week with sanctions against them if they make any more trades for cash and minor leaguers who make the minimum.

CB

December 13th, 2012
6:07 pm

Murph,yeah the one year of control vs. 6yrs is how Texas would look at it I’m sure.

VaBravesFan

December 13th, 2012
6:09 pm

Considering Maholm’s a free agent after this season, I’d definitely trade him for Olt. We’d then have around 17 million to work with and could look at free agent starters if we don’t want to go completely young on the backend. Olt would give us a controllable prospect who can actually hit and is MLB ready. We could then keep Prado and his gold glove ability in LF and have Olt play most of the time with Francisco getting some starts along the way.

CB

December 13th, 2012
6:11 pm

Now they are saying Sanchez deal is not complete.

Lew

December 13th, 2012
6:11 pm

Murph – That’s kind of what I said about Harrison when the deal went down and was told that I overvalued him – that he was no better than a #4 starter with a Ceiling of a #3.

Where have we heard THAT recently?

old man

December 13th, 2012
6:11 pm

Francisco hit .121 as a pinch hitter last year. The hear before that he hit .181.

VaBravesFan

December 13th, 2012
6:11 pm

But they wouldn’t make that trade, they’d laugh. Who’s trades a top tier prospect for a 1 year rental middle/backend rotation starter.

JasonInFL

December 13th, 2012
6:12 pm

Not just the ol’ bloggers on here mentioning Constanza. Sick of reading that…

“If Wren does not find an attractive option to fill this need via trade or free agency, Francisco and Constanza could find themselves beginning the 2013 season in a prominent role.”

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20121212&content_id=40626058&vkey=news_mlb&c_id=mlb

old man

December 13th, 2012
6:12 pm

In 2011 it may have even been .091. These are from memory. Trust me, we don’t want to count on him as a pinch hitter.

Patrick

December 13th, 2012
6:13 pm

That report of Anibal Sanchez signing with the Cubs which looked like it was a done deal was CRAZY!

First off, he’s no Ace and second, the Cubs are in a total rebuilding mode. I don’t understand why on earth they would make such a commitment? But, now they’re saying that the Tigers are still in the mix

old man

December 13th, 2012
6:14 pm

What about Maholm and Francisco for Olt?

They might look at it as basically getting an established left free for a year, and maybe a first rounder after he signs elsewhere.

old man

December 13th, 2012
6:15 pm

*left hander*

VaBravesFan

December 13th, 2012
6:15 pm

Harrison has been really good the past 2 seasons.

32 W 3.34 ERA 399 INN

He would arguably be our #1 starter if you think about it. We don’t even have a guy who we can feel real positive about throwing 200+ innings in 2013.

old man

December 13th, 2012
6:17 pm

We would plan on Olt at 3B, Prado in left. If Olt falters, we have Gattis, Johnson, etc. for LF.

JasonInFL

December 13th, 2012
6:17 pm

Franciso had an OPS of .798 as a starter last year and .438 as a pinch-hitter. For his career, the splits are .769 and .694. He has an OPS of .446 against lefties. I don’t think he will be an everyday player, but not the worst option against some lefties.

CB

December 13th, 2012
6:18 pm

old man, works for me, doubt it would for Texas.

VaBravesFan

December 13th, 2012
6:18 pm

If I’m the Ranger’s I wouldn’t trade Olt for Maholm and Francisco. But I’d definitely be trying to trade him for someone with atleast 2 years of control. I also think the chances of Maholm pitching well enough for the Braves to risk a qualifying offer is zero.

old man

December 13th, 2012
6:18 pm

On trading Maholm, Medlen may not be a veteran, but he sure acts like one.

Lew

December 13th, 2012
6:20 pm

Jason – No matter how sick of i you may be, you never heard it from Wren. The only mention in that article was once by Bowman – other than to say Constanza had been sick. Wren mentions using Prado in LF and Francisco at third and totally omits Constanza.

VaBravesFan

December 13th, 2012
6:23 pm

Paul Maholm is a solid pitcher who will likely give us around 180 innings. I view him as a guy who would be a #5 starter on a championship caliber team.

JasonInFL

December 13th, 2012
6:25 pm

Actually, I have never heard Wren once say his plan was to keep Martin in LF and play Juan at 3B as being his definitive plan. I have heard him mention that as a possibility, especially against lefties, and I have also heard him mention Constanza as being part of the dreaded internal options.

A separate article by Bowman:

“There is also a chance the Braves could stick with their plan to move Prado to third base while using either Jose Constanza or Evan Gattis as their starting left fielder. While Gattis might still be a long shot to begin the season at the big league level, he has certainly aided his cause while hitting nine homers and compiling a .503 slugging percentage in the Venezuelan Winter League.

Wren and members of his staff will travel to the Dominican Republic this weekend to watch Francisco, Constanza, Teheran, Delgado and their top catching prospect, Christian Bethancourt.

“The one thing about young players is sometimes they’re only lacking one thing — and that’s opportunity,” Wren said.

http://blogs.ajc.com/atlanta-braves-blog/2012/12/10/in-last-year-on-hof-ballot-heres-case-for-murph/?cp=26#comment-1907036

So, I guess it is just us bloggers and Bowman.

Trey

December 13th, 2012
6:27 pm

Tom, yeah, at least they have medication for that stuff these days.

VaBravesFan

December 13th, 2012
6:29 pm

Opening Day Bench

Pagonozzi
Majei or Gattis
Janish or Pena
Francisco
Johnson

But if another player isn’t added the next guy in line would likely be Constanza, mainly cause he’s on the 40 man roster. Or they could choose the extra big bat who isn’t selected to begin with or INF who isn’t picked.

Murph

December 13th, 2012
6:29 pm

Olt can also play 1B and some LF if needed. Not sure how well he plays any of those positions, or 3B for that matter, but that might be some valuable versatility.

I know the chances of Wren getting Olt are close to zero, but now that Myers is gone, I need some prospect to chase until opening day.

I wonder if Usain Bolt can hit?

old man

December 13th, 2012
6:31 pm

Michael George Olt
Bats: Right, Throws: Right
Height: 6′ 2″, Weight: 210 lb.
Born: August 27, 1988 in New Haven, Connecticut, US (Age 24)
2012, AA .288/.398/.579/.977 24% K rate, 28 HRs

Jedd Lindon Gyorko
Bats: Right, Throws: Right
Height: 5′ 10″, Weight: 195 lb.
Born: September 23, 1988 in Morgantown, West Virginia, US (Age 24)
2012, AAA .328/.380/.588/.968 17% K rate, 24 HRs

Venice Jim

December 13th, 2012
6:33 pm

Bowman must hate TOBF:

Mark Bowman ‏@mlbbowman
Can’t see a fit w/ Braves & Bourjos. Braves are defensively sound in CF and Bourjos is suspect at the plate. Not viewed as a leadoff option.

old man

December 13th, 2012
6:34 pm

For Atlanta, you need to go for the Jedd over the Mike. He would be a huge hit down here, right?

JasonInFL

December 13th, 2012
6:34 pm

That last part actually wasn’t meant to come off as being a smart###. The only articles I can find mentioning Constanza are ones from Bowman. He does cover the team and all, but still…

VaBravesFan

December 13th, 2012
6:35 pm

While Maholm represent a #5 starter on a championship caliber team, he’s our 2nd most dependable and proven starter only behind Tim Hudson. We know what we have in Paul Maholm.

Kris Medlen, Mike Minor, Randall Delgado, Julio Teheran, and Brandon Beachy all have some question marks going forward. This is a big season for the first 4 mentioned. 2014 will be a big season for Beachy, as I’m not expecting much in the 2nd half. Don’t rush him back.

Patrick

December 13th, 2012
6:36 pm

I’m sorry to Mark but he always seems to be the buzzkill

Lew

December 13th, 2012
6:39 pm

Dude – Did you even read the first article you posted? Wren talks about using Francisco on a full time basis. Who do you think will play LF if he does? Prado or Francisco? How about Reed Johnson if they do the three way platoon. Or Evan Gattis.

Nowhere does Constanza even fit into all that.. Buncha freaking alarmists. You have three potential better ways to go and yu’all are hung up on Jose freaking Constanza. Sheesh

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