In last year on HOF ballot, case made for ‘Murph’

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CB

December 13th, 2012
9:08 am

Repost from – nah, I won’t do that. :-)

Lew

December 13th, 2012
9:08 am

DOB – I already did block him, myself. The new Page was DAP’s idea. Like you, I was just named as an administrator.

Fine with me, I just don’t know everyone who requested inclusion on the new page. I approved those I already knew – most of them – but there are still others I don’t know. If anyone hasn’t been approved, shoot me an email (lewhartman@comcast.net) with name and blog moniker and I’ll do approvals on the rest. Knowing that He Who Shall Remain Nameles is constantly changing his identity, I don’t trust him not trying to infiltrate the new page with yet another alias – I’d rather have an idea who I’m approving.

PMC

December 13th, 2012
9:21 am

The only reason Jim Rice is in, and Dale Murphy is out, is due to where they played.

Northeasterners don’t know anything exists outside of that area.

Lew

December 13th, 2012
9:22 am

I really don’t give a flying *&^$ # how much money the Braves spend – what I want is a team that’s going to win games.

If you don’t think that this team will score runs with five players capable of hitting 25-35 HR each (not to mention another potential 25-30 added with the three way platoon) and that this rotation (along with the best bullpen in baseball) will win a lot of games, then you’re either totally clueless or another doom and gloomer.

This team has tons of power, good arms, pitching depth and a lock down bullpen. They will compete as already constituted.

old man

December 13th, 2012
9:22 am

nolie:

You were rightly concerned about sample size on my hypothetical Francisco/Johnson platoon slash line. So this morning I expanded the sample on Francisco to career numbers (I was already using career numbers on Johnson). Juan has only a smattering of ABs before 2011, and then around 100 the past two seasons. But using the career numbers basically doubles the sample size. It is 226 plate appearances. That’s about 55% of a full season for the left handed side of a platoon.

Again, the theory is that 98%+ of his pinch hits are against righties.

I again stripped out all of the ABs against lefties, and then stripped out all the pinch hits. With the exception of the rare instance when he pinch hit against a lefty, this should give you his stats equivalent to a starter in a platoon scenario.

Here is what I got for Juan:

.306/.356/.551/.907

And again, here is Reed Johnson against lefties, career:

.311/.367/.461/.828

And this is the blended line you get for the two in a platoon:

.307/.359/.524/.883

Here is the blended line I got yesterday, using the smaller sample size of only 2012 for Juan:

.296/.350/.545/.895

So doubling the sample size for Juan gives you slightly more AVG and OBP, a little less power. I agree that it’s still not a huge sample size, but it’s twice as big as what I gave you yesterday, and the line still looks pretty good to me.

old man

December 13th, 2012
9:27 am

nolie:

Juan’s career AVG as a pinch hitter is indeed low–.181. So the larger sample size–still small–seems to bear out that he sucks as a pinch hitter. Which explains why his non pinch hitting numbers against righties are surprisingly high.

DAP

December 13th, 2012
9:30 am

nolie Mattingly whining about “too high expectations” just cause a team has a huge payroll. poor guy, gonna be expected to win this year.

i think the dodgers might struggle to score runs at the rate people think they should. they will do fine. probably win the west, but the offense isnt as good as it looks, i dont think.

DAP

December 13th, 2012
9:30 am

The thing about a platoon is you will then need to acquire a LH bat for the bench. And there are no good ones available via FA.

thats actually not the case. berkman, giambi, huff, overbay, kennedy, abreu, damon, F*dome, ibanez, podsednik, chavez, hafner, matsui, scott are all free agents. thats 14 players to choose from. some are obviously better than others, obviously.

A.P.

December 13th, 2012
9:36 am

Thank you Lew, finally some reason. People forget that we won 90+ games last year with:
1. Janish and Rev seeing significant playing time
2. Huddy missing time
3. Meds and Maholm only starting 1/2 the year.
4. Uggla and B Mac hitting no where near their lengthy career averages.
5. Michael Bourn being an automatic out the entire second half.

This team will compete with an internal option in LF or 3rd. Adding another true difference maker could push us over the top, but the season’s not already lost because we missed out on paying Victorino 13mil/yr or giving the Indians a better package than Bauer for a year of Choo.

Bawlmer Brave

December 13th, 2012
9:38 am

Can Reed Johnson really hold up well in a platoon situation? I was under the impression that he had a bad back or something that prevented him from being a ‘regular’ lineup addition. He was good with spot starts and PH duties, but I don’t know how that transfers to platoon duties.

monty

December 13th, 2012
9:40 am

Juan has a huge swing,and it’s going to be hard to change it. THat said, I’d love it if he became a regular 25+ HR guy who could get on base at.320 or higher. Few people make big adjustments to their swings and pull it off. TIger Woods may be the exception or Bautista for Toronto. BUt I think his was more of a timing mechanism and not a real swing change. You can pull it off in BP or low pressure situations but when the pressure is on, you can know what to do and still not execute. But here’s hoping.

keyLargo

December 13th, 2012
9:41 am

If you don’t think that this team will score runs with five players capable of hitting 25-35 HR each

I’d love to be that optimistic but reality is that only 2 of the 5 did it last year and the probability of the other three coming back to join the 25 – 35 HR club ranges from probable (Uggla) to probably not (McCann).

Lew

December 13th, 2012
9:42 am

AP – I’m certainly not adverse to adding a good, full time LFer, but overpaying for a position we’ve got in house options that would provide a decent fix is absurd. I swear money burns a hole in people’s pockets, even after seeing numerous times that spending MLB bucks doesn’t equate to winning championships nearly as often as some believe.

Lew

December 13th, 2012
9:46 am

key largo – Probably not? Really? Mac hit 20 last year with his freaking arm falling off and just had surgery to fix it. Wren claims he’ll be back two weeks into April. I’d be shocked if he DIDN’T improve on last years totals.

A.P.

December 13th, 2012
9:48 am

Exactly, I would be upset if we didn’t utilize that 8-10 mil I am hearing we have. But it seems like a popular opinion on here is to spend it for the sake of spending it. There has not been a single FA signing I felt we missed out on, and the amount of prospects these trades are returning have been obscene (with the exception of Span). I still think Wren makes a move, but better to use that money to extend guys than to tie ourselves up with a bad contract to a player that isn’t an improvement over internal options.

old man

December 13th, 2012
9:48 am

I agree that if the appeal of Francisco is that you get the best out of him by not using him as a pinch hitter, that means that when the other half of the platoon is playing against a lefty, and then the righty relief pitcher is brought in, well Francisco is a weak option to pinch hit. Normally the other half of the platoon is the obvious choice, but Juan flat out stinks as a pinch hitter.

I think my projected slash line for the platoon far outweights that, but I agree that you need a decent lefty bat on the bench as your first pinch hitting option. But that’s only in about 30% of the games. I concede that even those situations would put a premium on having a decent guy on the bench to pinch hit against righty relievers. Juan would be your last choice.

Lew

December 13th, 2012
9:50 am

Upton 28, Heyward 27, Freeman 23, McCann 20 and Uggla 19 – with Mac and Uggla in lousy seasons. Even if they hit no more than they did last year, this team will score runs.

Real Talk

December 13th, 2012
9:50 am

@Lew Sent you a request and an e-mail

TheOnlyBravesFan

December 13th, 2012
9:52 am

McCann averages 20 HR a year now (avg. 135 games played), when he’s completely healthy… with him missing possibly up to a month, and maybe even needing more days off than usual, I don’t think it’s a stretch to say he wouldn’t hit 25, or say 20. He’s probably going to play 110 games (450 PAs or so), and at his career HR rate, he’d hit 18. I’ll say he’ll fall between 15-20.

DAP

December 13th, 2012
9:53 am

p’cola What about Michael Cuddyer?

ill take him. hes sort of a prado type of player.

Lew

December 13th, 2012
9:54 am

TOBF – And you’ve proven to be so prophetic, haven’t you?

DAP

December 13th, 2012
9:57 am

lew I don’t trust him not trying to infiltrate the new page with yet another alias

good thing is, lew, as an administrator, you can delete members at any time. so if he pops up under another name and starts causing trouble, its easy to boot him. as far as i could tell, the other page had no administrator.

Real Talk

December 13th, 2012
9:57 am

If McCann is healthy he hits 23 Hr’s this season, if he needs alot of days off its more like 14 Hr’s

Real Talk

December 13th, 2012
9:58 am

I think McCann, if healthy, hits 23 r 24 Hr’s

TheOnlyBravesFan

December 13th, 2012
9:59 am

Mac’s power numbers last year weren’t lower than they should have been… based on career HR rates, he should have hit 19, he hit 20. He’s averaged 125 games the last 2 seasons, 132 the last 4. With him missing at least 15 games, based on his recent averages, he should start 110-115 games. If he misses more than 2 weeks at the start of the season, may play even less… and I’d think he’d probably get a bit more rest than usual during the season.

I’d say he’s likely to hit 15-18 HR, but may reach 20, but I’d be pleasantly surprised if he’s near 25. Course, he always has those 2 weeks or so in July when he just scorches, so maybe he can use that stretch to rehab those power numbers some more

P'cola Brave

December 13th, 2012
10:06 am

Its a real stretch to say McCann will hit 25 HR. I don’t think he has ever hit that many before. I know he got to 24 but I think thats his highest. Plus he will miss a month and will have regular scheduled days off over the course of the season. I think your looking more around 18-20 this season from him.

Efrim

December 13th, 2012
10:07 am

So the Red Sox get their offseason accomplished without forfeiting a first round draft pick, which was their main goal.

Ortiz, Napoli, Victorino, Gomes, Ross, Uehara, and now Ryan Dempster.

All contracts three years or less. Although I’m not too sure I like their team anyhow, but hey, they keep their 1st.

TheOnlyBravesFan

December 13th, 2012
10:08 am

Dayton loves his boy Frenchy…

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/delusional-or-doable–royals–under-james-shields–leadership–hell-bent-on-duplicating-giants–blueprint-013927621.html

“We believe in Jeff Francoeur a great deal,” Moore said. “He had a tremendous year for us in 2011. And what I know about Jeff is he’s going to bring a great winning attitude every single day. He’s going to bring a competitiveness. He’s going to bring an energy and an expectation level that is essential for teams to compete over 162 games. He plays Gold Glove defense in right field. He has a terrific arm. The bottom line is, the more guys you can keep out of scoring position, the better chance you have to win games.
“Jeff Francoeur is a winner.

TheOnlyBravesFan

December 13th, 2012
10:10 am

not prophetic Lew…. just using the power of arithmetic.

keyLargo

December 13th, 2012
10:10 am

Probably not? Really? Mac hit 20 last year with his freaking arm falling off and just had surgery to fix it.

Probably not is correct. Even if he comes back 2 weeks into the season, he’s missed all of Spring Training. So that puts him two months behind and his stats are in decline.

Plus the small stat that probably tells the story the best. He’s NEVER hit 25 HR’s in his life.

Efrim

December 13th, 2012
10:14 am

LF Gomes/Kalish/Nava, CF Ellsbury, RF Victorino
3B Middlebrooks, SS Iglesias/Ciriaco, 2B Pedroia, 1B Napoli, C Salty/Ross, DH Ortiz

SP’s Lester, Buccholz, Dempster, Doubront, Lackey

Boston has some serious depth in the bullpen: Bailey, Uehara, Morales, Bard, Miller, Breslow, Aceves, Melancon, Tazawa, Beato, De La Rosa, Carpenter

Murph

December 13th, 2012
10:15 am

Is the drama over? No more Lentz?

I did manage to find his address through Google last night… it actually was a lot easier than I thought it would be.

Anyways, he’s now on the mailing lists for hundreds of religious and political groups… stores and charities… all sorts of places!

DAP

December 13th, 2012
10:15 am

efrim All contracts three years or less. Although I’m not too sure I like their team anyhow, but hey, they keep their 1st.

its a bit of a hodge podge, but i think it can work. especially if the players they got get used right, which they probably will be.

A.P.

December 13th, 2012
10:17 am

Guys, I am pretty new here, but just out of curiosity. who is Lentz? I feel like he is some sort of mythical creature that lives to cause mayhem.

Lew

December 13th, 2012
10:19 am

TOBF – Well, arithmetic ain’t no psychic and you haven’t been right on much of anything this winter, have you?

Real Talk – having trouble finding your requst, though I got your email. Re-send your request to the page and I’ll add you to the mebership. I think I got everyone else (or DAP did)

keyLargo

December 13th, 2012
10:21 am

AP – you’re right with your assumption except he is real. Was a regular on the blog and went crazy enough to get permanently banned.

Real Talk

December 13th, 2012
10:23 am

@Lew just resent reuest

richbrave

December 13th, 2012
10:23 am

Not joining Real Talk Lew, sorry. Not that you’d want me to. This is as electronic as I get. Haven’t used e-mail or facebook in nine months. Never going to twitter either. Come to see me here when you can. I’ll be holding forth.

Parkway

December 13th, 2012
10:23 am

I am actually OK with our current set up… intrigued by the thought of putting JFrancisco in a LF platoon with Johnson. Its not like he could be any much worse than Loaf was, right?

Anyways, I think we are decent enough to make the Wild Card play-in game- which is about our only shot at the “real” playoffs…Even with a significant Braves addition for LF, I think the Nats will still win the East.

A.P.

December 13th, 2012
10:25 am

I saw people claiming we should dump Heyward for whatever we could get while he was struggling last year, and they didn’t get banned, so I can only imagine how crazy this Lentz guy had to get.

TheOnlyBravesFan

December 13th, 2012
10:25 am

TheOnlyBravesFan

December 13th, 2012
10:26 am

Juan won’t play LF, unfortunately.

Martin the yo-yo… enjoy seeing him in 2013 guys.

richbrave

December 13th, 2012
10:26 am

Parkway:

Regarding FRANCISCO in LF. Another statue to grace the lawn? To the right or left of ‘Loaf’?

Real Talk

December 13th, 2012
10:27 am

@Parkway I think the loss of Burnett will hurt the Nats and if they dont resign LaRoache I think leadership will suffer, so I think we have a shot at the division as well!!

TheOnlyBravesFan

December 13th, 2012
10:30 am

Jon Heyman ‏@JonHeymanCBS
#cubs are willing to pay about $26M of soriano’s $36M if they get right prospect back. seems reasonable. 30/100 last yr

Any takers?

A.P.

December 13th, 2012
10:31 am

I’ve been promoting this for a while.

A.P.

December 13th, 2012
10:31 am

Great production, and could help us break the all time strikeout record!

Hillbilly

December 13th, 2012
10:33 am

I fell asleep after “Let Me Roll It” last night, (which was outstanding by the way) so I had to look up McCartney and Nirvana on Youtube this morning. Holy Crap. That was flippin’ great. Grohl is a damn animal…a monster on those drums.

richbrave

December 13th, 2012
10:33 am

Real Talk:

I think the loss of BURNETT will hurt the BRAVES. We owned him as well as JACKSON and DETWILER.

NATS were smart to move JACKSON. BRAVES should own DETWILER. And we were beginning to get a handle on STRASBURG a bit as well.

We need to win the head to head series this year to have a chance of supplanting them in the division.

flange1

December 13th, 2012
10:34 am

TOBF,

Which one is McFanns?

Parkway

December 13th, 2012
10:34 am

@Richbrave 10:26
Probably on the foul line side of Loaf’s monument. They always seem to have trouble digging it out of the corner, so we’ll need the extra guy there :P

But in all seriousness, based on what I’ve been reading about FRANCISCO’s winter season efforts, he definitely deserves a shot to play more often than PH. I guess it still really depends on Spring Training, but I would hate to have to give PRADO the runaround between third and left all year if we don’t get an everyday LF (or 3B) in a trade or signing.

TheOnlyBravesFan

December 13th, 2012
10:35 am

Gnome Picnic

TheOnlyBravesFan

December 13th, 2012
10:37 am

Nats get Strasburg for a full season, Ramos as well, added a #2-3 in Haren… they’d be fine with either Morse or LaRoche, but probably better with LaRoche. As of now, I still think they’re better than us, but got to play the season. They could just completely collapse.

Nats the team to beat… 95 wins, A- Braves 90 wins, B

Real Talk

December 13th, 2012
10:41 am

@TOBF they are the team to beat, but we ave the best bullpen in baseball and avery good starting staff, if we get th production out of Mccann and Uggla we may top last years win total which would put us at 95 or better, also I am saying I think the Nats will have a tough time being better thn that!!

Billy Walsh

December 13th, 2012
10:42 am

PMC

You do realize that Jim Rice has life time batting that is 33 points higher than Murphys and Rice also knocked in 100 + runs 8 times right (Murph had 5). Rice also has more career hits and rbis.

flange1

December 13th, 2012
10:44 am

Thanks TOBF.

Billy Walsh

December 13th, 2012
10:44 am

The reason why Rice wasnt elected sooner was due to the fact that the media detested him.

Lew

December 13th, 2012
10:45 am

And MY post is awaiting moderation? Oh well.

Cliff Fiscal

December 13th, 2012
10:47 am

Do the Braves have any interest in Scott Hairston. He is certainly not a leadoff hitter, but could add some more RH power.

Lew

December 13th, 2012
10:47 am

richbrave – NO problem – We know how to get in touch if necessary.

TOBF – Now he’s got a crush on the Nats along with Greinke. I dsuppode if they had signed ZG, then he’d be positively orgasmic.

richbrave

December 13th, 2012
10:50 am

Parkway:

I’d have PRADO back at 2B full time if I had my druthers, giving FRANCISCO a full opportunity at 3B with a ‘premium’ LF like ALEX GORDON and JOHNSON as the back-up. I wonder if…….nah! To far fetched to think UGGLA would be an ex-BRAVE.

TheOnlyBravesFan

December 13th, 2012
10:52 am

crush on the Nats? no, they’re just better right now… look at them. Show me a position where we are so much better than them (bullpen doesn’t count, there’s is pretty good) and how having our guys come back to career norms overcomes the Nats regaining Ramos, having Strasburg all season, and adding a #2 in Haren.

We’re both very good teams, we should be in striking distance. But as of now, they are the better team. Nothing that they’ve done makes me think that they’ve gotten worse than last year’s team, and we’re about the same.

old man

December 13th, 2012
10:53 am

Would Reed Johnson hold up physically as a platoon starter?

He would only get about 30% of the starts in that role.

Real Talk

December 13th, 2012
10:53 am

Uggla going nowhere!!! Period and it gets old people always talking about it…Iknow they are tired of him but we need to move on because he will be our starting 2nd baseman at least till July:{

jfp

December 13th, 2012
10:54 am

Lew, are you guys still going to be posting on the DOB blog or just on your FB page?

Murph

December 13th, 2012
10:55 am

Lots of new guys on the ol’ blog this morning… welcome! Don’t feed Ward after midnight.

Parkway

December 13th, 2012
10:55 am

@richbrave 10:50

Definitely agree with you there. Prado at 2B would be ideal. In a perfect world, eh? Oh, Uggla….I hate to admit I was very high on that trade when it was first announced. Perhaps he will snap out of this two year funk he’s in….ha…ha….

CB

December 13th, 2012
10:57 am

I would not be against a trade for Alfonso Soriano if we only had to pay 10mil over the next two years and costs in prospects is low. The only negative is his age, might be worth the chance in my view.

A.P.

December 13th, 2012
10:58 am

Haren was awful last year, and there are big ? with his back and hip. I don’t think Gio can sustain what he did last year. I think if healthy, then yes, the Nats are better, but we are not as far behind as everyone seems to believe.

Real Talk

December 13th, 2012
10:59 am

by the way Haren has a career 6.17 e.ra againt Braves:}

P'cola Brave

December 13th, 2012
10:59 am

CB

Plus the extra 150 SO’s you’ll add to the lineup.

Rick C

December 13th, 2012
10:59 am

“bullpen doesn’t count, there’s is pretty good”

Why, because it doesn’t fit your argument? The Braves’ bullpen was almost a half run better than the Nats’ last season. It was actually a bigger margin than the Nats’ starters had over the Braves’.

Murph

December 13th, 2012
10:59 am

Do the Cubs need a 2B? I wonder if they’d be open to trading one bad contract for another if a certain 2B fills a need for them…

CrαZy

December 13th, 2012
11:00 am

It’s nice not getting Facebook notifications from the old Blog page written by man boobs lentz.

Lew

December 13th, 2012
11:01 am

Look at them? You mean like everyone looked at the Angels last year or maybe the Tigers – who were so strong that no one stood a chance against them? Or how the Yankees and Red Sox have been viewed despite underacheiving while overspending on a regular basis?

Dude, you’re pretty typical of a lot of posters here – every move by a comopetitor guarantees them dominance while everything the Braves do marks them as losers or just not capable of competing at all.

The same was said all through last year, yet the Braves ended up as one of the fice or six best records in MLB and had we beated the Nats two more times during the season, we’d have tied for the division lead.

Like I said – what have you been right about so far? Hanson not worth anything, yet he brings in a strong buillpen pitcher (who even YOU should like) Greinke going to sign with the Braves for $15 mil a year (yet he signs for close to $25 million for years with the Dodgers), O’Flaherty and Maholm being moved to free up money (yet Wren continually tells us the pitching is set and EOF is valuable).

What so far out of all of your prognostications would lead to me have any faith in anything you say (and say and say and say and say – over and over again)?

CB

December 13th, 2012
11:03 am

P’cola, yes, he will fit right in. lol

TheOnlyBravesFan

December 13th, 2012
11:03 am

Happy Birthday, Rev…

I don’t think Gio can sustain what he did last year.

I think he can… was a good pitcher in the AL, just looks better w/ his periphs cuz he’s in the NL now. He’ll stay around this range… Haren, yes, there are a few questions about his hip, but he’s a durable pitcher, who should be healthy. When he was healthy, he pitched like a 2. I see him being a 2-3 for the Nats, and he replaced a #4 in EJax. Got Strasburg and Zimmerman as well, their D and bullpen are solid, good lineup.

I don’t think we’re way behind them, but they still are about 5games better than us; but this is on paper. Gotta play the games.

Phils, Mets, and Fish are horrible though, so I’m not predicting anything lower than 2nd for us. :)

Lew

December 13th, 2012
11:03 am

jfp – I’ll be posting here and on the new FB pafge, though mostly right here.

keyLargo

December 13th, 2012
11:04 am

Real Talk – I guess you missed Uggla’s six previous seasons when he hit over 30 HR in every one and in 2011 when he hit 36 as a Brave?

Rick C

December 13th, 2012
11:06 am

Murph, no I’m sure they are set with Darwin Barney. Not much of an offensive player but he played over 141 games straight without an error. He was three outs from breaking the ML record by Placido Polanco.

P'cola Brave

December 13th, 2012
11:07 am

Look you really can’t knock the Nats. They had close to the best record in baseball last year. Their SP is deep and their bullpen is formidable, though I think they need to add another piece this season. Their lineup is deep and their youngsters have proven to be MLB caliber players. They get a full year of Strasburg and Harper. They’ve now added Span which gives them a quality leadoff guy and allows their bangers to drive in runs. I think they are stronger w/ Laroche than Morse but both are quality players. This team is for real and currently the big dog in the division until another team proves otherwise. The Braves are right on their heels but as currently constructed is the #2 team in the division w/ the Phillies nipping at the heels.

DAP

December 13th, 2012
11:07 am

the only braves fan #cubs are willing to pay about $26M of soriano’s $36M if they get right prospect back. seems reasonable. 30/100 last yr

Any takers?

im wary of this. i wish it was only one more year. then again, if we dont have much invested and he tanks, we could cut him loose. ill just say i wont advocate, but ill hesitantly approve.

jfp

December 13th, 2012
11:08 am

Lew, that’s good, I am not a huge fan of FB. A lot of my friends are on it all of the time. I just check it occassionally for new pics of my children and grandchildren. Like reading the blog because it is mostly Braves baseball updates. You guys do a good job keeping everyone informed and create some unique arguments. Definitely entertaining and informative. Glad you’ll still be on here.

Real Talk

December 13th, 2012
11:09 am

@key largo uh?? I said he is going nowhere, what are u talking about?

Lew

December 13th, 2012
11:11 am

jfp- Thanks.

David O'Brien

December 13th, 2012
11:13 am

Sorry, Lew. Godspeed on the new page and all, but I don’t have time to get involved in any way, other than to comment from time to time. Can’t get involved in weeding out, passing along monikers or anything else. No way I’m adding that to my plate, in any capacity.

Cliff Fiscal

December 13th, 2012
11:13 am

I guess Scott Hairston interests nobody. I wish there was a way to unload Uggla, but I am not sure how the Braves would fill both LF and 3B, assuming Prado would move back to 2B.

Lew

December 13th, 2012
11:13 am

I might even try Twittter.

Lew

December 13th, 2012
11:13 am

I might even try Twittter.

CB

December 13th, 2012
11:14 am

DAP,pretty much agree on Soriano. I do believe he is a better alternative than a platoon and not a long term commitment.

Lew

December 13th, 2012
11:14 am

And the blog Gremlin strikes yet again

David O'Brien

December 13th, 2012
11:15 am

Morbid curiousity, DOB. It’s like trying not to look when you go by a severe auto accident. — Tom O’Hawke

OK, then those people who want to see the severe auto accident, or in this case the Misanthrope’s meltdowns and over-the-top proclamations, have no reason to complain about it when they get (a lot) more than they’d hoped for along those grotesque lines. And those who want no part of it can block him on Facebook. It’s either/or. Not both.

TheOnlyBravesFan

December 13th, 2012
11:15 am

bullpen era of 2.76 or 3.23 (3.03 from their regulars)… both are very good. It’s not like their bullpen blows leads every other night, hence I said don’t count it. It’s not like the Phillies ‘pen of late, those guys can hold leads. They have a better rotation, probably a better lineup, both have good defense, both have a good bullpen (but we are slightly better)

We’re a good team, but I don’t think we’ve surpassed the 98 win Nationals, and they’ve made 2 moves to get better. We made 1 so far, and we’re at about the same place we were last year.

Real Talk

December 13th, 2012
11:15 am

NO interest in Hairston!

Lew

December 13th, 2012
11:16 am

DOB – I kind of figured. I got volunteered for it myself along with you. This is DAP’s baby. I’ll go along with it and hope to see you every now and then as your time permits.

Hey – I know how to get ahold of you, too if the need arises.

keyLargo

December 13th, 2012
11:16 am

#cubs are willing to pay about $26M of soriano’s $36M if they get right prospect back. seems reasonable.

Not really. When the Braves dumped Lowe to the Indians, they paid 2/3 of his salary and got a Single A prospect named Chris Jones from the Indians.

TheOnlyBravesFan

December 13th, 2012
11:16 am

And I’m just buying them because of the new moves they’re making… they already were a good team. It’s not like the Marlins, Nats, Angels etc. just spending to spend. Good organization up there that is on the way up. To discount them and the moves they have made is just wrong, imo.

Cliff Fiscal

December 13th, 2012
11:17 am

Just to be safe, I am not THE blog Gremlin. I am the blogger formerly known as Tumbledown. I got tired of that name. Too depressing. :)

Mako

December 13th, 2012
11:17 am

Yep, it’s that time of year, the homers trying to downplay the Nats. Last off-season, all you heard from people here was that there was no possible way the Nationals were going to be better than the Braves in 2012 and surprise, surprise, they were.

This is the Nationals’ division. And you don’t have to be a “doom and gloomer” to realize that.

P'cola Brave

December 13th, 2012
11:17 am

Cliff Fiscal

Hairston is a nice player but hes a little redundant in the fact that hes very similar to Reed Johnson. Hes a platoon guy that beats up on LHP. I don’t see the Braves jumping in to meet the demands

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