1:11 pm December 6, 2012, by David O'Brien
Brave New World
December 7th, 20126:15 pm
Not thrilled or upset that we have Upton. I would have been less thrilled if we overpaid for Bourn. Upton still has upside and has proven he can 1) hit .300; 2) can consistently score 80 -90 runs; 3) can steal 30-40 bases; 4) can drive in 80+ runs; 5) can play very good defense; 6) has a cannon for an arm; and 7) can be a dominant force in the post season. Sure, he strikes out a lot, but so does Bourn, who has a lot less power and has not proven he can produce in the clutch. GO BRAVES!
December 7th, 20126:31 pm
single white dove
December 7th, 2012
December 6th, 2012
DOB- Any potential interest in A. Soriano? I heard the Cubs would pick up a good portion of his salary, and wouldn’t cost much in prospects. Potentially 30 bombs for around 9 mil (Assuming the Cubs eat half
I SECOND THAT! Its worth a try.
December 7th, 20126:35 pm
DOB- Any potential interest in A. Soriano? I heard the Cubs would pick up a good portion of his salary, and wouldn’t cost much in prospects. – Norris Chuck
Was told he’s not an option.
December 7th, 20126:44 pm
Noticed the White Sox have Viciedo and DeAza on the market what about a trade for Viciedo with Teheran and Gearin
December 7th, 20126:56 pm
•Braves GM Frank Wren said he has interest in certain outfielders as one-year stopgaps, ESPN.com’s Jerry Crasnick reports (on Twitter). The Braves need another outfielder, even after signing B.J. Upton.
Read more at http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/#3cY0zcEIckqv1iZc.99
December 7th, 20127:47 pm
Wren there’s plenty of trades out there. You have to give up something to get what you want. The Tigers are looking for a LH relief pitcher, trade Venters or O’Flaherty + two low level prospects for Castellanos. 20 yrs. old, he should be ready by mid season or before. This guy would be our 3rd. baseman for many years.
December 7th, 20128:43 pm
The Braves should try to get Justin Upton also. He is cheap for 3 years. But then again could brothers play on the same team.
December 7th, 20128:45 pm
@Bill M — I’d rather give Francisco a shot at 3rd base. Castellanos may be a good prospect but he hasn’t even done great in AA yet. Why even make that trade?
Big surprise here that the braves left the winter meetings without addressing their needs. Let’s see…….we went almost seven years without a center fielder and leadoff man. We finally get one player who is capable of filling both those roles and we decide instead to throw $75 million at another strikeout artist who can’t hit for average and who is really a fairly average defensive center fielder. I know everyone thinks he is a real stud out in the field, but we’ll see when the season starts. Meanwhile we have two young players who look like the real deal who need to be locked up for a few years at reasonable (if any salary in MLB could be called reasonable) salaries. I’m sure Wren is working with “suspenders” Schuerholz to come up with a strategy on that front. They’ll get to it when they find that next big bat everyone is clamoring for.
Oh, you ignorant fools
December 7th, 20129:11 pm
“The Braves should try to get Justin Upton also. He is cheap for 3 years. But then again could brothers play on the same team.”
First off, is this a question?
Secondly, where have you been “Braves ‘fan’”? Upton has been the main topic of discussion for weeks now.
How dare ye, DOB
December 7th, 20129:16 pm
Maybe it’s DOB’S FAULT we’re not landing these players….
December 7th, 20129:18 pm
WTF ever dude…DOB is a great writer who does a great job interacting with Braves fans and informing us of everything going on behind the scenes.
December 7th, 201210:17 pm
@9:16..Thats old news..DOB explained all that crap. DOB’s the best in the business..get a life.
December 7th, 201210:26 pm
Insider said Braves still in on Ellsbury if RS desides to trade him…for Teheran or Delgado..I wouldn’t give up either one for a year rental.
Fowler would be here 3 years for that and one more.
December 7th, 201210:40 pm
I would like to see them go with Fowler 1st and if that doesnt happen, shoot for Ellsbury!
December 7th, 201211:35 pm
Reds are after Flower…..
December 8th, 20121:44 am
Towers needs a good SS bc he has no depth at that position. He has depth in the OF.
Simmons is a good player could be a great player but SS is not typically the place you look for RBIs and this team is in need of another RBI with pop.
If BJ plays like 2011 and Simmons turns out to be all arm & glove Wren will be in deep yogurt. He rode the untouchable duo of JJ and Hanson into the ground and over paid for Uggla.
I am not sure I really trust his gut or his eye on talent evaluation.
Seems like a lot of hope in there and everyone is a special player.
December 8th, 20121:57 am
December 7th, 2012
Tommy, you do realize we now have 3 of the MLB top ten strikeout guys from last year in our lineup, PLUS McCan’t whose strikeout totals are climbing steadily. We may lead the league in a VERY negative category next year..
And you lead the world in negative comments… Why don’t you go back and read your posts and see the river of septic toxic thinking that comes out of you. You say you’re a Braves fan,well either prove it and be one or go root for another team that’s perfect in your eyes. Stop splashing your acidic waste on this blog.
December 8th, 20125:38 am
Woke up a bit early. Two words Braves’ fans! Emilio Bonafacio. Fans and Wren need to glom onto to this cat. Can play 3rd base and/or left field. As a 3rd baseman, this guy stole twenty straight bases without being thrown out one time! Stole something like 30 in 64 games. That’s off the charts for anybody — much less a 3rd baseman. Would come cheap and welcome a change of scenery to a contender. I know nothing about his character, but the stats can’t be denied.
Steve from Philly
December 8th, 20127:44 am
Lots of comments about how the Phillies gave up too much for Revere here. I guess it remains to be seen. If Worley is winning 15 games a year for the next few years, that assessment will be proven correct. But he could also be J. A. Happ reborn. He went 6-9 last year and broke down at the end of the season. The big question is can he recover from his elbow surgery. The minor leaguer was 10-13 and 4.50 or so in AA last year. We’re mostly OK with the deal up here, but it’s true that the Phil’s were desperate for a CF.
I think the talk about Bourne was mostly a smoke screen. And we are still laughing at the money the the Sox gave Shane Victorino. We love both of those guys but not for that money.
December 8th, 20127:57 am
After we way overpaid for Upton, we sure can’t call the Phillies desperate for how they handled the Revere deal.
December 8th, 201210:48 am
Steve from Philly..just click one time ..u sure got your finger on the problem.
fladawg..afer looking at what some others got (ex. SV) Upton’s was not that bad.
Boras has yet to have a player signed…
Robert ( chi-town)
December 8th, 201210:53 am
Maybe Wren will get a left fielder gift wrapped to him before Christmas! I’m sure that’s what he’s hoping for. Frank you cannot get something for nothing!
December 8th, 201211:31 am
Until a Braves FA move or trade results in a different outcome come the middle of October they all will be suspect and should be.
The Phillies have won a ring in 2008 and have been in the playoff mix more than ATL over the past 10 years. Their moves seem to work though 2012 could be the beginning of the decline.
I still hope Towers warms up to Ahmed bc if that happens the deal will pop. He is young, incredibly quick, can hit and has the size to move to 3B as he matures.
December 8th, 201212:26 pm
-Braves do not need any more “big” Wren deals -$75 mil for 156K Player -.246 BA;72 RBI
-Fans will come if Braves win,which they will because of best NL Pitching
-Great Young Stars-Prado,Freeman,Heyward,Simmons,Medlin,Beachy,Minor,Kimbrel,Avilan
-3B still a problem -I am big Francisco Fan but he has got to try to learn how the game is played
-if Francisco does not-then Martin to 3B(only average Fielder here)-Johnson and Constanza in LF
-Braves need to get a lot better at “little ball”-can anyone BUNT ?- Braves Pitching deserves this
-How Deep into Playoffs – Beachy and Brian back strong -No Chipper — keep tuned ??????
December 8th, 201212:56 pm
A Jones will play in Japan and Ludwick will resign with Reds.
Another Do-Nothing Week in Braves Land.....
December 8th, 20123:05 pm
Well another week, plus the Winter Meetings have come and gone with Goofy looking Executive Hair Frank Wren sitting on his azz doing absolutely nothing at all to help make the Atlanta Braves a contending team in 2013……please Santa Claus bring Atlanta a new general manager and a new team manager that has the best interests of the team and city at heart – someone who can build a fire in the hearts and under their azzes and not go around tipping his cap to every jackazz in town……..
December 8th, 20123:43 pm
It is so fun being kinda good every year. We should all celebrate that 1 game playoff this last year. It might have to last us a while.
December 8th, 20125:14 pm
Wren does not have the creativity to build a great team. Has a great bunch of players but no vision as how to build upon it. It is just sickening.
December 8th, 20125:40 pm
Wren does not have the creativity to build a great team. Has a great bunch of players but no vision as how to build upon it. It is just sickening. — JHarber
I like how rational and level-headed everyone is on the blog. No exaggerating here. No, sir.
That 94-win Braves team in 2012? Sickening.
Or, JHarber, do you think it was actually about an 80-win team and Fredi just coaxed them to another 14 wins?
NOT GOOD ENOUGH......
December 8th, 20126:13 pm
DOB, what has been produced and trotted out on the field the last couple of years is NOT GOOD ENOUGH……if it doesn’t end with a pennant or a trip to the WS, it plain just not good enough……and that means that FW or FG have to seek another job, the so be it……they are not good enough.
December 9th, 20128:46 am
I’m not sure why so many of you were in love with Ben Revere. I actually watch the Twins play and Revere struggles to get the ball out of the infield (and can’t get it to the warning track). The fact that he can fly on the bases hardly makes up for the fact that he’ll never drive in any runs, and he’ll frustrate you to no end with RISP.
December 9th, 20129:38 am
Some names for consideration; Bonifacio,Hairston,1st two choices, then possibly Polanco. Bonifacio LF, Hairston, OF/2B/PH(possibly 3B)Bench, Polanco 3B,PH-Bench. Not a whole lot of money used for 3 players.
December 9th, 20129:42 am
3 names even w/ all 3 could cover OF & INF. A couple of them can spell others in different positions. Hairston, Blue collar through & through, along w/ Reed Johnson, Prado discipline at the plate, Gotta Love it!
December 9th, 20129:44 am
If at least – Bonifacio, & Hairston, SOOOOOOOON!
December 9th, 201212:16 pm
DOB, what has been produced and trotted out on the field the last couple of years is NOT GOOD ENOUGH……if it doesn’t end with a pennant or a trip to the WS, it plain just not good enough……and that means that FW or FG have to seek another job, the so be it……they are not good enough. — NOT GOOD ENOUGH
With all due respect, the folks writing the checks apparently disagree, as both Frank Wren and Fredi Gonzalez have had their contracts extended — or in Gonzalez’s case, option picked up — through 2014 since the season ended.
December 10th, 20127:59 am
Before giving up the farm or spending a ton of money on some loser retread, platoon Constanza and Johnson and see how that works out. Imagine that Prado would love it with all of the fastballs he would see with Constanza on first base. Jose strikes out very little and would be an above average LFer defensively.
Speaking of loser retreads, anyone think that Livan is available? Or Scott Proctor? As usual, Wren will find sme aging ragarm and sign him to a one year contract, only to have to dump him around midseason due to his ERA pushing 8. Anyone want to bet with me on that happening?
Perennial Playoff Failures (Timetoloseagain@October.com)
December 10th, 20127:20 pm
Trade for Hart from the Brewers so they can get Hamilton.
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