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ncscoots
December 5th, 2012
10:09 am
He’s likely going to improve on that over the years, just like Yadi did.
Oh, you mean, like Geovany Soto did? Or Russell Martin did? Two guys were widely hailed as successors to McCann as the best catcher in the league?
Efrim
December 5th, 2012
10:09 am
Teheran really doesn’t look like he’s going to miss a ton of bats at the big league level with a flat fastball and below average curveball. But I’m hoping the command improves on the fastball so that it all plays up. And it would be nice if he junked the breaking ball and used the slider a lot more.
unbelievable
December 5th, 2012
10:10 am
Speaking of leadoff options. I was really shocked to see what Alex Gordon is making and even more surprised that the Royals aren’t trying to move him more with that Salray. The have Myers. – Patrick
Whats more shocking is that more is keeping Frenchy around. Alex Gordon’s production far outweighs his current contract. They could have Myers and Gordon both in their OF.
Murph
December 5th, 2012
10:10 am
Mac is going to get a big deal.
And the Braves will get a draft pick. Woo hoo.
P'cola Brave
December 5th, 2012
10:10 am
The fact that the Braves seem to have a good bit of interest in Bonafacio as our LF should tell everyone exactly how high the asking prices are via trade. I don’t know that we’ve had a trade yet this Winter Meetings.
monty
December 5th, 2012
10:12 am
JT’s trade vaue on the rise!
Tumbledown
December 5th, 2012
10:15 am
I do not think it is fair to suggest a final grade for Wren his offseason. There is still plenty of time to make more deals. Nobody on this board has convinced me that he or she would make a better GM than Wren. I certainly would be a horrible GM. Anyway, let us see what unfolds.
Efrim
December 5th, 2012
10:15 am
Teheran has owned RHH’s down in the Winter League: 1.13 ERA, 16 IP, 10 hits, 2 ER, 1 HR, 3/12 BB/K ratio.
vs. LHH’s: 9.35 ERA, 8.2 IP, 13 hits, 9 ER, 1 HR, 6/4 BB/K ratio.
ncscoots
December 5th, 2012
10:15 am
They could have Myers and Gordon both in their OF.
I’m sure that Moore would be more than happy to trade Francoeur for a pitcher, were someone to make the offer.
Since that is unlikely, he figures he might have to offer a legit player to get a pitcher. Sucks for him, but there you go.
raleighbravefan
December 5th, 2012
10:15 am
Murph – “Horrible. Awful”….Don’t you think you might at least want to wait and see what else goes down before you start to freak out?
Efrim – I’m a Hurricanes ST holder since 2003…and at this point, I’m so peed off, that I don’t much give a crap whether they play this year or not. Hurricanes may be the team that is hurt the most by the lock out. We acquired Jordan Stall, fans were excited, they were selling tickets…then the bottom fell out. Some ST holders for 10+ years have now bailed on the team. People have found other things to do. It’s a shame, and driven almost entirely by greed by the large market owners.
TheOnlyBravesFan
December 5th, 2012
10:15 am
Not related to the Molina’s, but he does seem to be on a similar track as him… CBet’s 2012 was worse than anything Molina put up, but Yadi wasn’t a great force in the minors either. Career .703 OPS down there, and put up a .632 for his first 3 MLB seasons. Was all about the defense with him. His bat finally improved, CBet’s is supposed to as well. That’s why I try to think of them as somewhat similar players.
TheOnlyBravesFan
December 5th, 2012
10:15 am
Mac is gonna get paid….
More than we can pay. Play well enough for a draft pick!
TheOnlyBravesFan
December 5th, 2012
10:18 am
Teheran really doesn’t look like he’s going to
be all that good, especially against righties. Trade him now while his “value” is high, keep Delgado!
unbelievable
December 5th, 2012
10:20 am
Frenchy should get benched or released. They have plenty of other pieces to land a solid pitcher.
I heard Teheran was sent home after last nights outing. I wonder if the Braves are shutting him down before trying to trade him somewhere. Last two or three outings have been great.
Ralph
December 5th, 2012
10:21 am
If Ludwick goes to the Reds I see nothing left on the list that is any better than what we have already. Unless Wren can rake in the jackpot and pull Stanton from the Marlins or Myers from KC he might as well take one last look in the dumpster for another worthless pitcher and come on home.
Efrim
December 5th, 2012
10:21 am
No significant trades yet at the winter meetings. I’m feeling one going down in the next 24 hours. Has to happen, right?
kenhotlanta
December 5th, 2012
10:23 am
I am surprised at the anti-Springsteen sentiment here today, especially from Mixxo because he’s in the bidness…I would say those folks have never seen him and the E-Street Band in concert, because that is a life-changing event.
And what chipl1960 said was the truth. I was in the music bidness, too, for almost 40 years, I saw just about everybody at one time or another, and I can say without question Bruce puts on the best show possible every single night.
One thing I discovered is that the superstar artists were at that level for a reason and they just about all were outstanding live…The Rolling Stones, The Allman Brothers Band, The Who, Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd, U2, REM, Bob Dylan, even Michael Jackson; all of those artists put on great live shows in addition to producing classic albums that never grow old.
Springsteen was over hyped so much at the beginning that it almost killed his career before he even got started good, but then he came out with “Born To Run” in 1975 and it had a whole new sound and not the heavy guitar based songs that were the norm back then. That album was a masterpiece then and sounds just as good or better today, and any song from it is usually the highlight of his concerts, in addition to his radio friendly hits.
Springsteen is one of the few major artists that never became a parody of themselves, except maybe on some TV appearances. His live show today is always different and he and the band give maximum effort every single night for 3+ hours…and he has been doing this for over 40 years and it is an amazing achievement.
IMHO.
Mixxo
December 5th, 2012
10:24 am
“Mac is gonna get paid….
A few teams with potential opening at C after 2013: Texas, New York, Boston, Chicago, LA, among many other teams. Mac is going to get a big deal.”
The sooner….the better!
ncscoots
December 5th, 2012
10:27 am
The sooner….the better!
I’ll archive this, so I can bring it up when Bethancourt gets sent down in his rookie season for hitting like a girl.
Murph
December 5th, 2012
10:27 am
Error error error error error error error error error error… and no, I’m talking about the stupid blog, not Chipper’s last game.
Son of a…. sometimes I wonder if my time would be better spent on a sopapilla blog, or blog about deer hunting. Maybe they’d rather get my views and ad clicks.
I despise you AJC IT department. You are the Phillies of the IT world. Broken down and worthless.
Brava
December 5th, 2012
10:27 am
I just don’t like him, kenhotlanta, and I’m very eclectic in my musical tastes. There’s just something about his voice that grates on my nerves, always has.
Mixxo
December 5th, 2012
10:29 am
@kenhotlanta
Like I said, he and the other artists you mentioned (sans REM,) have my utmost respect. They deliver for their fans with conviction.
Brava
December 5th, 2012
10:30 am
Troy Renck @TroyRenck
RT @JonHeymanCBS Don mattingly said no way would he vote steroid guys into hall. “You cant tell what’s real, and what’s not” about careers
TennesseePaul
December 5th, 2012
10:31 am
but he does seem to be on a similar track as him…
No he doesn’t. His bat is going the wrong direction as he moves up in the system. Yadier, on the other hand, progressed in the system. Struggled in the majors and then progressed but not in the minors.
I’d say his bat was following more of a Todd Pratt trajectory, but even Pratt hit better in the minors than Bethancourt.
Mixxo
December 5th, 2012
10:32 am
I just don’t like him, kenhotlanta, and I’m very eclectic in my musical tastes. There’s just something about his voice that grates on my nerves, always has. – Brava
Same here Brava.
BravePack(FreeFan)
December 5th, 2012
10:32 am
Today seems like a good day for a trade to happen for our Braves. I just want to also point out the last time I said this Upton made a decision later in the day to join the Braves. So based on that my list in order of preference:
1. Gordon
2. J Upton
3. Choo
Get it done Wren, quit screwing around and holding on to pitching prospects. The Braves need another bat for LF or 3B.
TennesseePaul
December 5th, 2012
10:33 am
Has to happen, right?
No. Too many teams are hugging tight their prospects and holding high their demands. It’s pretty irrational some of the rumors I read.
Efrim
December 5th, 2012
10:33 am
Well…..If we were to trade for LF Alex Gordon, that would pave the way for an Edward Salcedo and Christian Bethancourt 3rd Base/Catcher combination after they destroy the Southern League in 2013, right????
Hah!
old man
December 5th, 2012
10:34 am
Rick C,
I was talking about Justin’s splits. My fault. I didn’t specify.
If we get Justin, there will be several years of confusion like that, eh?
chipl1960
December 5th, 2012
10:34 am
Thanks Ken. I have never spoken to a single person who saw Bruce that didn’t leave amazed and feeling different than before the show. Not one that I’m aware ever said he sucked or I don’t get it. Not trying to change anyones mind. The proof is in the pudding. Go to a show and then get back to me. Right Ken?
Murph
December 5th, 2012
10:34 am
Don’t you think you might at least want to wait and see what else goes down before you start to freak out?
I’m not freaking out yet. If you read my post you’ll see how I said that if the Braves go into ST with Upton as their only offensive add then this offseason will be viewed as a complete failure given the money and trade chips Wren had at his disposal.
I’m still holding out hope that something will get done, but honestly I’m also a bit afraid that something will get done at the same time. Wren seems completely fixated on getting a leadoff bat. That’s the wrong approach if he wants to build a team that can actually compete with the Nats.
The Braves need an impact bat, a guy who can help make the difference between the team that came in 2nd last season and the team that needs to be built in order to give Washington a real run for their money.
I’d rather go into ST with Gattis and Francisco competing for a starting job than with Bonifacio penciled in to a starting role. Gattis and Francisco at least stand a chance of making an impact if they put things together. Bonifacio, not so much.
Mixxo
December 5th, 2012
10:34 am
What BravePack(FreeFan) said @ 10:32 !
ncscoots
December 5th, 2012
10:36 am
Well…..If we were to trade for LF Alex Gordon, that would pave the way for an Edward Salcedo and Christian Bethancourt 3rd Base/Catcher combination after they destroy the Southern League in 2013, right????
Yes, it might be a little tough to cram in Upton, Gordon, AND McCann, unless there is a significant increase in their budget. Assuming they actually want a little bank left for their young core of players and a pitcher or two.
George_George
December 5th, 2012
10:36 am
kenhotlanta
December 5th, 2012
10:23 am
I am surprised at the anti-Springsteen sentiment here today, especially from Mixxo because he’s in the bidness…I would say those folks have never seen him and the E-Street Band in concert, because that is a life-changing event.
And what chipl1960 said was the truth. I was in the music bidness, too, for almost 40 years, I saw just about everybody at one time or another, and I can say without question Bruce puts on the best show possible every single night.
One thing I discovered is that the superstar artists were at that level for a reason and they just about all were outstanding live…The Rolling Stones, The Allman Brothers Band, The Who, Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd, U2, REM, Bob Dylan, even Michael Jackson; all of those artists put on great live shows in addition to producing classic albums that never grow old.
Springsteen was over hyped so much at the beginning that it almost killed his career before he even got started good, but then he came out with “Born To Run” in 1975 and it had a whole new sound and not the heavy guitar based songs that were the norm back then. That album was a masterpiece then and sounds just as good or better today, and any song from it is usually the highlight of his concerts, in addition to his radio friendly hits.
*******************
Good morning all
TOTALLY AGREE WITH THE ABOVE.
Efrim
December 5th, 2012
10:36 am
Baseball America Texas Rangers Top 10 Prospects:
1. Jurickson Profar, ss
2. Mike Olt, 3b/1b
3. Martin Perez, lhp
4. Leonys Martin, of
5. Justin Grimm, rhp
6. Luke Jackson, rhp
7. Luis Sardinas, ss/2b
8. Cody Buckel, rhp
9. Jorge Alfaro, c/1b
10. Joey Gallo, 3b
Loaded.
chipl1960
December 5th, 2012
10:39 am
VJ- when you wake up I want to hear about the show. Thunder Road and Jungleland. The answer to your question.
Super Slueth
December 5th, 2012
10:39 am
As expected in Nashville, Wren and Co. went out with high expectations.
As the days have worn on, Mr. Wren has become agitated and has a figgity demeanor, just last evening Frank went missing, a few hours later Bruce Manno was heard outside Gaylord’s Opryland Hotel screaming at Wren “Frank there are no Left Fielders in that damn DUMPSTER!”
More as this story develops!
Rick C
December 5th, 2012
10:39 am
Old man, ah ok. I knew Justin’s home/road splits were bad but I thought you were talking about BJ because you mentioned low OBP. Justin has a very solid career OBP of 357.
Murph
December 5th, 2012
10:39 am
10. Joey Gallo, 3b
Wasn’t that the name that Joe Pesci gave the judge in My Cousin Vinny?
Super Slueth
December 5th, 2012
10:42 am
In other Braves related news, a bystander grabbed the wrong cell phone seems Frank Wren has been texting Vinny Castilla to see if he is available.
TheOnlyBravesFan
December 5th, 2012
10:42 am
Surely EOF and Hanson Could have gotten us one of those prospects from 5-10…
old man
December 5th, 2012
10:43 am
Very interesting about Teheran getting shut down after 3 stellar outings. Don’t underestimate the impact of that, or of Francisco’s 2 HRs and no Ks last night. These GMs watch all that stuff like hawks. Maybe it’s just what they need to come back to one of Frank’s offers.
Again—-all the guys we like, Upton, Gordon, Choo, Myers–ARE STILL OUT THERE, and I don’t think any of their teams have made moves to address the need which moving those guys would address. So Wren is juggling all of these balls, and none have dropped to the floor yet, which is remarkable.
raleighbravefan
December 5th, 2012
10:43 am
I’m not much of a Springsteen fan, myself…but hey, for those who like him, have at it. I won’t criticize him…just not my taste.
I’ve never been to his concert, and I’m quite sure he puts on a great show…if you like his music. It’s just a non-starter for me, but everyone to their own taste.
Efrim
December 5th, 2012
10:43 am
Wasn’t that the name that Joe Pesci gave the judge in My Cousin Vinny?
Yes, however Vinny tried to extend the lie by going with Joey Callo. C-A-L-L-O. Not sure which one was the real lawyer, though.
David O'Brien
December 5th, 2012
10:44 am
DOB, are meetings over now, or at the end of the day? When will people be leaving?
The mass exodus of team officials takes place immediately after Thursday morning’s Rule 5 draft. Some even leave during it.
George_George
December 5th, 2012
10:44 am
I just don’t get it. How a lot of folks here are perfectly happy with a player who posts batting aveages of .241 .237 .243 .246 over the past four years and also think he is worth 75 MILL over five years.
kenhotlanta
December 5th, 2012
10:44 am
Since this could be Fleewood Mac’s last hurrah and tour, I wonder if they have given any any thought at all to adding Peter Green, Jeremy Spencer and Danny Kirwan to the show, for at least a few songs with Mick and John. That would really be something to see, but I imagine Stevie and Lindsey’s egos are too big for that to happen.
And I would love to see Christine one more time, she added so much to the band’s hit songs. And my favorite album was “Kiln House” from back in the day.
Trader Jack
December 5th, 2012
10:46 am
Murph
The money that was talked about, was never really there
Sorry pal
Efrim
December 5th, 2012
10:46 am
Surely EOF and Hanson Could have gotten us one of those prospects from 5-10…
I think Wren really wanted a RH reliever like Walden for this coming season. I’m glad that was more of a priority, at least it seemed that way. They needed more balance in high leverage situations and I don’t think depending on Martinez or Gearrin for that role would be wise. Chad Durbin is probably better suited for Cory Gearrin’s role too.
old man
December 5th, 2012
10:47 am
George_George,
Move on, already.
Rick C
December 5th, 2012
10:49 am
“I just don’t get it. How a lot of folks here are perfectly happy with a player who posts batting aveages of .241 .237 .243 .246 over the past four years and also think he is worth 75 MILL over five years.”
I don’t think he’s worth that, but players tend to get overpaid in free agency. And in comparison to the deals Pagan and Victorino got, BJ’s deal is not unreasonable IMO. But I also don’t just look at AVG and OBP in evaluating that.
raleighbravefan
December 5th, 2012
10:49 am
Brava @10:27 – That’s it, exactly.
kenhotlanta
December 5th, 2012
10:52 am
“Mixxo: There’s just something about his voice that grates on my nerves”.
Kinda like many of your posts, especially ingame?
Murph
December 5th, 2012
10:52 am
I just don’t get it. How a lot of folks here are perfectly happy with a player who posts batting aveages of .241 .237 .243 .246 over the past four years and also think he is worth 75 MILL over five years.
There’s a difference between being happy with it and realizing that it is what it is and there’s no changing it.
Are you going to whine like a little b*tch for the next 5 years about the deal? What’s that going to accomplish?
Move on. What’s done is done. Hope for a LF that balances out BJ’s deficiencies instead of crying like a little girl with skinned knees.
Wah, wah, wah. Go rest your sad little head on Hinske’s cooshy teet. Oh, wait, he’s gone. BMac’s will have to do, then.
Efrim
December 5th, 2012
10:52 am
Still holding out hope for Shin Soo Choo for less than Teheran or Delgado. That would be ideal. Ellsbury is probably next on that list, also for less than the two latin arms.
raleighbravefan
December 5th, 2012
10:52 am
chip – I’ll go to a concert if you buy the ticket. Otherwise, I’m not spending megabucks to see an act that I don’t currently like…and may like better after spending the bucks…or not.
TheOnlyBravesFan
December 5th, 2012
10:55 am
Jon Heyman @JonHeymanCBS
Very available: shin-soo choo as well as cadrubal. #indians looking for long-term assets
Teheran… though Spruill+ would be fine too.
Brava
December 5th, 2012
10:56 am
Go rest your sad little head on Hinske’s cooshy teet.
unbelievable
December 5th, 2012
10:57 am
I dont think the Indians will get a top prospect for Choo after what Minnesota got for Denard Span.
DAP
December 5th, 2012
10:59 am
dadgum I think it’s a given by almost everyone including McCann that he won’t be a Brave in 2014
personally, im not conceding that, and i doubt anyone who really matters in the situation is either. (Braves FO, Wren, McCann)
George_George
December 5th, 2012
10:59 am
old man
December 5th, 2012
10:47 am
George_George,
Move on, already.
****************
NOPE, I will keep saying it all season long. The only time I will stop is if he is batting .300 and on a pace to hit 30 HRs and have 80 RBIs. Till then old man keep drinking your kool-aid.
Brava
December 5th, 2012
10:59 am
Jayson Stark @jaysonst
The big buzz this morning at the winter meetings is: Watch out for Texas on Zack Greinke.
raleighbravefan
December 5th, 2012
11:00 am
Efrim – I agree…Choo (for a reasonable price), would be a good solution.
ncscoots
December 5th, 2012
11:00 am
I dont think the Indians will get a top prospect for Choo after what Minnesota got for Denard Span.
No, but I do think they’ll look for a return that’s in the realm of a draft pick they would receive if they keep him. I’m not sure how to value that, anymore, with the way the draft has changed.
Brava
December 5th, 2012
11:01 am
Nick Cafardo @nickcafardo
Most baseball people here in Nashville feel Jacoby Ellsbury tough to deal because teams have no idea if they can sign him.
Efrim
December 5th, 2012
11:01 am
Teheran… though Spruill+ would be fine too.
TOBF, why would you trade six years of Teheran for one year of Shin Soo Choo, with added risk that he gets hurt and doesn’t receive a qualifying offer?
TheOnlyBravesFan
December 5th, 2012
11:02 am
Jayson Stark @jaysonst
The big buzz this morning at the winter meetings is: Watch out for Texas on Zack Greinke.
If they get him, a team with an already strong rotation gets stronger…
Darvish, Greinke, Harrison, Holland, Lewis/Feliz/etc. Dang, that’s good. Hard throwers. And our rotation still averages about 90 on their fastball.
Brava
December 5th, 2012
11:04 am
John Fay @johnfayman
RT @bmburkley Revere, Bonifacio are rumored to be available. Both have bargain contracts. chance the Reds make a move here?//chance? Sure
Lemke's Knuckler
December 5th, 2012
11:04 am
old manI’m puzzled. What’s wrong with Bonifacio if he gives you his 2011 line?
I’m with the old man here, I think Bonifacio would be a solid pickup. His splits as a leadoff hitter in 2011 were even better than his overall stats (.310 avg, .376 obp and 61 runs in 97 games).
And including the games he played in 2012 before getting hurt, his 162-game average over that span was…
.284 avg, .351 obp, 53 stolen bases
That’s better than Mr. Michael Bourn. He’s a switch hitter, plays a solid outfield and most importantly he’s under team control for 2 more years before hitting free agency.
I’m shocked more of you are high on this possible move. I think it’s a perfect fit and I imagine Wren could get him for a Gilmartin-type prospect and maybe another mid-level guy. Or maybe flip Walden over to the Jays, they’re always looking for bullpen help.
Yes please to Bonifacio!
BravePack(FreeFan)
December 5th, 2012
11:05 am
George_George
December 5th, 2012
10:44 am
I just don’t get it. How a lot of folks here are perfectly happy with a player who posts batting aveages of .241 .237 .243 .246 over the past four years and also think he is worth 75 MILL over five years.
He’s baaaaaaack! Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. I can’t wait until the season starts and Bossman shuts you up with a breakout season.
chipl1960
December 5th, 2012
11:05 am
Raleigh I guess its like last year (I live in Morehead City, N.C.) the wife and I had business in Raleigh and decided to attend a hockey game. Dropped almost 200 bucks with everything included and saw them get blownout. Left halfway through the 3rd period wondering how anyone can justify spending their money on that display of ineptitude. But, to each his own.
raleighbravefan
December 5th, 2012
11:05 am
George – Keep saying it….and we’ll keep scrolling. (Has nothing to do with drinking koolaid….more about the tiresome negative obsessions.)
Efrim
December 5th, 2012
11:05 am
I’m not sure how to value that, anymore, with the way the draft has changed.
Sean Gilmartin or Zeke Spruill + maybe one additional lower level prospect – seems like a reasonable ask, imo.
David O'Brien
December 5th, 2012
11:06 am
The boxscore from Tuesday’s 11-0 Licey win in Dominican Winter League, in which Teheran pitched 5 no-hit innings and Juan Francisco hit two homers and drove in six runs.
http://mlb.mlb.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?sid=l131&t=g_box&gid=2012_12_04_licwin_gigwin_1
Lew
December 5th, 2012
11:07 am
Never saw Springsteen live, but have seen a number of televised shows. He certainly gives all he can to a perfformance. Say what you will about him, but Darkeness at the Edge of Town and The River (in particular) are phenomenal albums.
Efrim
December 5th, 2012
11:07 am
I would not trade Graham for one year of Choo if it came down to it.
CB
December 5th, 2012
11:08 am
You guys better quit picking on George George, he says he speaks the truth.
unbelievable
December 5th, 2012
11:10 am
DOB, Can you confirm if Teheran was shut down after yesterdays start?
Venice Jim
December 5th, 2012
11:10 am
Just got a customer satisfaction survey from the concert promoter – very efficient of them…
TheOnlyBravesFan
December 5th, 2012
11:10 am
I see Choo as a difference maker… not to the level of Willingham and JustinU, but he’s pretty close. Elite hitter against RHP, and does more than hold his own against lefties. I’m not as high on Teheran as Delgado, and now many scouting reports show them both as having #2 upside. Except that Teheran hasn’t done it at the MLB level and did just get spanked by AAA for an entire season. Even Braves officials are losing confidence in him. I’d trade while his value is still high. Of course, if we can get Choo for less, great. But I wouldn’t say no if the Indians asked for Teheran.
Also, I think this season is the year that Teheran needs to show some results. If he’s back in AAA, he should be pitching admirably by the deadline, or I’d want him traded.
Lew
December 5th, 2012
11:10 am
“Are you going to whine like alittle b*tch for vie years”
Nah, that NEVER happens here in DOBLand. Never, ever.
NORRIS CHUCK
December 5th, 2012
11:12 am
•The Braves are seeking a pair of bench players, one right-handed hitter and one lefty, says David O’Brien of the Atlanta Journal Constitution. Reed Johnson appears to be the team’s top target as a righty bat, though he’s still exploring his options, according to GM Frank Wren: “We’ve expressed an interest in bringing him back. He’s expressed an interest in coming back. But we’re just not there yet.”
•Atlanta also continues to explore trades for impact bats, according to O’Brien, who says the Braves are believed to have inquired on Justin Upton, Alex Gordon, Dexter Fowler, and Shin-Soo Choo, among others.
Read more at http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/#ChlfOTfCUAxUZAWW.99
Go and get Fowler or Upton!
chipl1960
December 5th, 2012
11:13 am
VJ- thoughts on the show? Thunder Road and Jungleland the answer to your statement of the 2 songs? I opened up a big can of worms this a.m. while you slept about Bruce. I’ve seen him 64 times since 77 and bases on responses here not many who share my obsession. Their loss. JMHO.
jmart1951
December 5th, 2012
11:14 am
Like David Ross I believe that most Braves fans think that Reed johnson is going to automatically resign with the Braves. It was a total surprise to most Braves fans that Ross was not resigned.
What dollar / year amount will it take to bring Johnson back to the Braves?
I believe that it will take 1.8 mill each for 2 years. Is that in line with what is currently taking place in the market? More or less?
David O'Brien
December 5th, 2012
11:14 am
B.J. Upton saves more than $120,000 in taxes by getting his $3 million signing bonus before Dec. 31, prior to the fiscal-cliff deadline.
https://twitter.com/Heritage/status/276355386687238144/photo/1
old man
December 5th, 2012
11:14 am
Efrim–
Agree that Choo gives us a premium player, low trade cost, and flexibility in years to come.
Teheran is #24, Alex Meyer is #50, so you would hope maybe we get by with lower prospects–no Teheran or Delgado. None of our other pitching prospects crack the top 100, right? So we would be looking at a package of two guys?
Fish Bisch
December 5th, 2012
11:15 am
Rumors around these parts is that the Braves are getting Choo for cash considerations.
TennesseePaul
December 5th, 2012
11:15 am
Teheran… though Spruill+ would be fine too.
Ha! You are just dying to trade one of those starters. You get a whiff of any possible available player and your initial offer is always Teheran or Delgado…. sometimes both. And for no logical reason. Choo has 1 year of control left.
George_George
December 5th, 2012
11:15 am
This winter has to be one of the lowest times for the BRAVES since 1991. We lost CHIPPER and by far overpaid BJ.
Efrim
December 5th, 2012
11:16 am
None of our other pitching prospects crack the top 100, right?
It’ll be interesting to see if any other Braves prospect cracks the Top 100 lists. Maybe Bethancourt. Not sure if any others will.
old man
December 5th, 2012
11:17 am
Both Francisco HRs off RHers, as expected.
unbelievable
December 5th, 2012
11:17 am
Rumors around these parts is that the Braves are getting Choo for cash considerations.
No chance that happens.
raleighbravefan
December 5th, 2012
11:17 am
chip – Hey…absolutely to each his own. Sorry you saw a bad game, and you could have gone for a lot less than $200…but, variety of tastes makes the world go round, and makes the blog interresting, too. I have NO problem with others enjoying the heck out of Springsteen, or anything else that’s legal and reasonably moral.
BTW, hockey, like a lot of things, is an acquired taste…maybe true with Springsteen, as well.
Trader Jack
December 5th, 2012
11:17 am
Efrim
Indians are looking for one MLB ready plus 2 other prospects. That price is not worth a 1 yr rental
Lew
December 5th, 2012
11:17 am
I’d gladly pay an extra $120 grand in taxes if someone gave me $3 million.
CB
December 5th, 2012
11:17 am
George George,what Murph said.
Efrim
December 5th, 2012
11:17 am
And for no logical reason.
Yes. Not sure why he’s so willing to include Teheran in any deal. For a player with multiple years of contractual control? Sure, I’d give it a lot of thought. But not for Choo or Ellsbury.
Efrim
December 5th, 2012
11:18 am
Indians are looking for one MLB ready plus 2 other prospects.
Sure, that MLB ready player can be Tyler Pastornicky.
Lew
December 5th, 2012
11:19 am
And had to listen to George-George complain incessantly about it. Like the song on the final Dio/Black Sabbath cd – Double The Pain.
CB
December 5th, 2012
11:20 am
They might need Pastornicky if they trade Cabrera.